| 00:11.01 | abm_y4k | JustinP: what did I miss? how to get this binary command to bundle with the oz? |
| 00:11.16 | abm_y4k | when I bitbake opie-image, its not there |
| 00:12.20 | JustinP | abm_y4k: figure out which package it's in and install that package |
| 00:20.22 | abm_y4k | JustinP: all I find a package that close to its name is arpwatch, but thats not it.... :( |
| 00:27.07 | JustinP | well I don't know which package it is... |
| 00:29.59 | abm_y4k | anyone might know here? |
| 00:30.28 | reenoo_ | ipkgfind.handhelds.org or packages.debian.org should know |
| 00:34.13 | abm_y4k | thankx |
| 00:39.45 | reenoo_ | 'night all |
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| 01:18.38 | df00z | How often is that OE.db mirror in the wiki updated? |
| 01:20.11 | emte | if the server is up every hour i think |
| 01:20.20 | df00z | ah |
| 01:20.26 | emte | or maybe its once a day |
| 01:20.32 | emte | its one or the other |
| 01:21.05 | df00z | Hrm. |
| 01:21.36 | df00z | libqte2_2.3.10-r27_poodle.ipk, what i just built, locks up on my zaurus |
| 01:22.10 | df00z | i wonder if a newer version is out |
| 01:35.47 | df00z | monotone update monotone: multiple update candidates: |
| 01:35.49 | df00z | whats up with this |
| 01:36.16 | JustinP | df00z: multiple heads |
| 01:36.19 | JustinP | df00z: pull |
| 01:37.48 | df00z | pull what |
| 01:39.37 | df00z | im just following the wiki |
| 01:40.22 | df00z | oh wait |
| 01:40.45 | df00z | err |
| 01:40.47 | df00z | what |
| 01:40.59 | df00z | http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/OE.db.bz2 |
| 01:41.04 | df00z | i downloaded that |
| 01:41.10 | df00z | then i tried to update org.openembedded.dev |
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| 02:03.42 | emte | hey raster pumpkin |
| 02:04.10 | df00z | hey emte, what actually provides the qpe binary? |
| 02:04.20 | df00z | what package? |
| 02:04.25 | df00z | its not libopie or qte |
| 02:04.28 | emte | qpe perhaps? |
| 02:04.53 | df00z | libqpe? |
| 02:05.07 | emte | sounds plausible |
| 02:05.27 | df00z | hmm |
| 02:06.38 | df00z | libqpe-opie-1.2.1+cvs-20051007-r0 |
| 02:06.44 | df00z | i dont see a qpe binary in the work directory |
| 02:07.19 | df00z | no..just a library it looks ;\ |
| 02:11.49 | df00z | ah-ha |
| 02:11.51 | df00z | opie-taskbar |
| 02:11.56 | df00z | ipkg search '*qpe*' |
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| 05:31.50 | myopiate | kergoth, you maintain the sysvinit package right? |
| 05:33.51 | myopiate | I'm trying to create an image that will boot as an initrd so i'm wondering where linuxrc should point to. |
| 05:35.28 | myopiate | Our current, hacked ourself, build system uses busybox rather than init |
| 05:43.55 | emte | http://www.linux-boot.net/InitRD/ |
| 05:43.59 | emte | this might help |
| 05:44.08 | emte | i think kergoth is probably asleep |
| 05:44.10 | myopiate | :D |
| 05:44.54 | emte | its a decent outline/example anyway |
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| 06:34.04 | alan|laptop | hello ! |
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| 07:45.17 | Arjan | wow... gpe-image, opie-image and e-image are all broken in the current oz354fam083 branch... :( |
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| 07:52.56 | CIA-7 | 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rfc70e15a... 10/: packages/gpe-bootsplash/files/cairofix.patch: add missing patch |
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| 08:03.21 | XorA | morning |
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| 08:33.11 | RP | morning all |
| 08:34.20 | ade|desk | morning all |
| 08:34.22 | ade|desk | too |
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| 08:34.53 | lardman|busy | hi RP |
| 08:35.08 | lardman|busy | hi ade|desk |
| 08:35.22 | ade|desk | anyone know who rday is ? |
| 08:40.08 | koen | ade|desk: robert day from the mailinglist |
| 08:40.12 | koen | ade|desk: why do you ask? |
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| 08:43.24 | koen | ade|desk: I must say his inability to copy/paste commands from the wiki is astounding |
| 08:45.26 | RP | koen: I've just been reading scrollback - You misunderstand what I meant about being able to go back to easlier kernels |
| 08:46.02 | RP | koen: We can go back to any of the kernels I've ever written if we restore the approproate .bb and changes the urls to look in my archives directory |
| 08:46.35 | koen | so all the fuss about 'we have no working kernel!!!' was a bubble of hot air? |
| 08:47.03 | RP | No, it was becuase I couldn't find a kernel I was happy releasing for the latest release |
| 08:48.05 | RP | 2.6.11 had loads of bugs which were fixed in later versions. Those later kernels had other bugs |
| 08:48.44 | RP | I found a version which fixed them all and called it the new stable series. Problem solved |
| 08:49.19 | XorA | the one that is default in OE now has been rock solid for me, a lot more stable than 2.6.11 |
| 08:50.07 | koen | so can we put all the patches for that one in OE and mark it as stable? |
| 08:50.29 | RP | koen: It marked as stable and I'd much prefer the patches stay where they are. |
| 08:50.44 | ade|desk | koen: i just thought that looking at the ml he was taking the piss with not reading what people have said and his inability to use google and the wiki |
| 08:50.50 | RP | The reason being I can upgrade both trees from the same patch sources |
| 08:51.09 | koen | and break the branch with the same source |
| 08:51.20 | RP | koen: I'd only apply bug fixes to both trees |
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| 08:54.28 | koen | ade|desk: and copy pasting from console to mail also seems to be problematic |
| 08:55.01 | koen | RP: what is the problem with putting all the patches for the stable kernel into the branch? |
| 08:55.17 | koen | RP: the idea of that branch is that only mickeyl and I touch it |
| 08:56.00 | RP | koen: I fail to see the need. It just increases the size of the monotone repo and makes things more difficult for me (or you) to change |
| 08:56.05 | ade|desk | koen: i can understand that, my oe, alas, has to be in vmware, c&p is not really possible |
| 08:56.30 | XorA | ade|desk: you not seen colinux? |
| 08:56.57 | ade|desk | XorA: corp policy :( |
| 08:57.21 | XorA | ade|desk: sucks, if it wasnt for the syscall driver colinux wouldnt need admin at all |
| 08:57.26 | RP | If you want to do it on "your" branch, that's up to you and mickeyl. I will not be happy doing that in .dev though as it would badly affect my system of working. |
| 08:58.15 | RP | If you do it on your branch, patching any bugs will become your problem. |
| 08:58.24 | koen | it already is |
| 08:59.17 | koen | at the moment a vital part of OZ isn't managed in an SCM |
| 09:00.08 | RP | Its managed by a slightly different system that still maintains history |
| 09:01.02 | RP | Anyhow, my position is quite clear and its been shown to work. I can't see the point in dicussing this further |
| 09:02.20 | koen | and it has shown to fail at points |
| 09:02.49 | RP | When did it fail? |
| 09:03.03 | koen | when patches got overwritten |
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| 09:04.09 | RP | I have once screwed up a couple of patches. It was a really minor problem and if it hadn't been, I could have restored backups |
| 09:04.43 | RP | The main issue was people had corrupt files in their sources direcotry rather than any data loss |
| 09:05.05 | RP | Which was easily fixed by a version bump |
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| 09:16.53 | reenoo_ | morning |
| 09:18.08 | RP | hi reenoo_ |
| 09:22.25 | reenoo_ | hey RP |
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| 09:37.51 | lucasvo | http://pastebin.com/386013 |
| 09:37.54 | lucasvo | what is wrong? |
| 09:39.46 | koen | lucasvo: it seems the build for your jornada failed |
| 09:44.01 | MP0 | hmm, familiar's giving me EOL while scanning single-quoted string syntax errors. |
| 09:44.26 | MP0 | hopefully that won't be an issue since I'm not building familiar |
| 09:45.42 | lucasvo | koen: jornada? |
| 09:46.29 | koen | lucasvo: yes |
| 09:46.44 | koen | linux-jlime-sh3-2.6.11 |
| 09:46.56 | lucasvo | koen: but I didn't set it up for jornada |
| 09:49.16 | lucasvo | koen: what do I have to setup in conf/local.conf? ipaq-px250 and arm isn't that correct for hx4700? |
| 09:49.43 | koen | you didn't paste the build summarry you get at the start |
| 09:49.58 | koen | and ipaq-px250 is wrong for two reasons: |
| 09:50.02 | koen | 1) it doesn't exist |
| 09:50.19 | koen | 2) ipaq-pxa270 is the one for hx4700 |
| 09:50.20 | lucasvo | koen: and what is for hx4700 |
| 09:50.22 | lucasvo | aha |
| 09:50.29 | koen | you can see that in conf/machine/*.conf |
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| 10:50.09 | Arjan | hi guys, do you have this problem with gst-plugins-0.8.7-r3 too? http://pastebin.com/386042 |
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| 11:22.26 | reenoo_ | Arjan: may want to check whether the source tarball has been extracted correctly |
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| 11:56.33 | df00z | Hey. Has anyone here with an ARM based device successfully used snes9x version 1.43? |
| 11:56.49 | df00z | There's a bb for it, it should work under GPE |
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| 11:57.05 | df00z | im trying to port it to SDL, its working on the desktop but my pDA just sits there |
| 11:57.17 | df00z | does anyone know if the 1.43 version works in GPE on an arm device? |
| 11:57.22 | df00z | or can anyone test? |
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| 12:42.32 | MP0 | hmm, glibc-2.3.5 doesn't seem to build |
| 12:42.34 | MP0 | checking for suffix of object files... configure: error: cannot compute suffix of object files: cannot compile |
| 12:43.09 | zecke | MP0: which platform? |
| 12:43.22 | MP0 | openomap |
| 12:43.40 | MP0 | my oe repository is dated 2005-10-07T07:49:42 |
| 12:43.41 | zecke | well how old is your machine.conf? |
| 12:43.44 | zecke | hehe |
| 12:43.56 | zecke | that sounds like the march or mtune is set wrongly |
| 12:45.17 | MP0 | the omap5912osk.conf seems to use tune-arm926ejs.conf |
| 12:45.41 | MP0 | -march=armv5te -mtune=arm926ej-s |
| 12:46.28 | zecke | now look at the config.log of glibc |
| 12:46.45 | zecke | it will say it does not know arm926ej-s (don't ask me what the correct tune would be) |
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| 12:50.38 | df00z | zecke: :\ I'm porting over snes9x 1.43 WIP to SDL so it can run under opie |
| 12:50.45 | df00z | i wrote a backend that works on my desktop |
| 12:50.54 | df00z | however on my PDA, it starts, displays the framerate and all |
| 12:51.02 | df00z | but sits there at a black screen...not frozen |
| 12:51.03 | df00z | but not working |
| 12:51.14 | df00z | i'm baffled :| |
| 12:51.24 | MP0 | I'm going to assume ej-s is a typo and try ejs |
| 12:53.38 | MP0 | hmm... 03koen 07 * r1.3540 10openembedded/conf/machine/tune-arm926ejs.conf: tune-arm926ejs.conf: fix typo in mtune parameter |
| 12:53.50 | MP0 | ... strange |
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| 13:07.04 | MP0 | ... yeah, it's arm926ejs: http://www.ip97.com/gcc/ARM-Options.html |
| 13:07.26 | MP0 | koen keeps complaining about having to remove the hyphen... I take it that the hyphen keeps creeping back into oe |
| 13:08.00 | zecke | crap |
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| 13:29.49 | zecke | mreimer: ping |
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| 13:49.02 | dwildes | Good Morning! |
| 13:49.29 | dwildes | Has anyone else had a problem with compiling an image, and then most of the network programs not work (like atftpd, appWeb, etc...) |
| 13:49.44 | dwildes | the instant you try to run it, I get a 'segmentation fault' |
| 13:50.36 | dwildes | what sucks is - the image I had before this (which was huge & had the debug info compiled in) worked fine. I then removed the 'tmp' directory & told it not to build with the debug stuff, and now I have this problem |
| 13:51.00 | koen | install catchsegv and see where it segfaults |
| 13:54.36 | dwildes | thanks koen - will do, brb |
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| 14:14.19 | chouimat | morning |
| 14:15.20 | CIA-7 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r9eacd7bb... 10/: packages/btscanner/btscanner_1.0.bb: fix compile with recent bluez headers, patch adapted from https://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/data//2005/06/0909132213173.patch |
| 14:15.24 | CIA-7 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rd158643d... 10/: packages/btscanner/btscanner-1.0/0909132213173.patch: don't forget to commit the patch too..... |
| 14:16.00 | dwildes | running 'catchsegv atftpd' still gives me the 'Segmentation Fault' immediately, and I'm not seeing any other information. Am I using it incorrectly? |
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| 14:28.17 | dmunicio | I have a little question about .bb files |
| 14:28.50 | zecke | yes? |
| 14:28.54 | dmunicio | can anyone help me? |
| 14:29.05 | zecke | probably not |
| 14:29.17 | dmunicio | ok |
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| 14:29.26 | dmunicio | so what can I do? |
| 14:29.41 | zecke | Pigi: hey, could you send me the 'FreeBSD' patch? |
| 14:29.48 | zecke | dmunicio: ask, and hope someone will answer |
| 14:29.50 | Pigi | Ciao all. |
| 14:29.52 | NAiL | you can... ask a question instead of asking if we can help.. |
| 14:30.40 | Pigi | zecke, sure. |
| 14:30.40 | Pigi | pb_, can I /msg you ? |
| 14:30.40 | koen | hey Pigi |
| 14:30.40 | dmunicio | ok, I want to include a bitmap in my rootfs in /usr/share/pixmaps for example |
| 14:30.51 | Pigi | hey koen ! |
| 14:32.03 | MP0 | hey koen |
| 14:32.04 | zecke | dmunicio: rootfs or a 'package'? |
| 14:33.10 | dmunicio | so I create a .bb file similar to gpe-terminal.bb in which I only want to copy this file to the rootfs |
| 14:33.18 | MP0 | I noticed on some chatlogs you were complaining about arm926-ej-s |
| 14:33.18 | Pigi | zecke, check mail ! |
| 14:33.31 | zecke | Pigi: I can't :( |
| 14:33.41 | MP0 | (in reference to configuring glibc) |
| 14:33.54 | MP0 | the current oe repository has it still mispelt |
| 14:34.10 | MP0 | I fixed it in mine, but is there any way to get it fixed in the oe repository? |
| 14:34.22 | Pigi | zecke, how am I supposed to send you the patch ? |
| 14:34.44 | Pigi | zecke, or simply you can't ATM ? |
| 14:35.15 | zecke | ATM I can't |
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| 14:36.09 | Pigi | ok, np |
| 14:38.23 | Pigi | pb_ disregard my previous msg :) |
| 14:41.43 | prasinos | Hello everybody |
| 14:43.27 | prasinos | I've setup the (amazing) OE/BB build system and I have successfully built some packages for openzaurus on C7x0. |
| 14:44.18 | prasinos | However when I try to build any -image (opie, gpe, e) compilation fails on module-init-tools-cross-3.1-r3 |
| 14:45.17 | zecke | dmunicio: well creating the rootfs is a packe itself |
| 14:45.28 | zecke | dmunicio: it will install available packages |
| 14:45.43 | zecke | ~pastebin |
| 14:45.45 | ibot | i heard pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca/ |
| 14:45.51 | prasinos | Specifically, on insmod.static I get the message "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lc" |
| 14:45.52 | zecke | prasinos: pastebin your error please |
| 14:46.09 | zecke | prasinos: oh then you need to install it |
| 14:46.25 | zecke | prasinos: (glibc static) |
| 14:47.13 | lucasvo | http://pastebin.com/386214 < should I retry? |
| 14:47.24 | prasinos | zecke: you mean I have to install glibc-static on the machine I am doing the compilation. (I'll try now...) |
| 14:47.35 | zecke | prasinos: right |
| 14:47.45 | dwildes | anyone else have any suggestions on my immediate 'Segmentation fault' whenever I run a few servers (like appWeb, atftpd)? |
| 14:48.17 | zecke | dwildes: dmesg, check the alignment trap, and do as koen said, install catchsegfault and strace |
| 14:49.34 | dwildes | zecke: a dmesg gives me no info on the trouble, a 'catchsegv <program>' still gives me the segfault, and with no other information, dump file or anything |
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| 14:50.08 | dwildes | haven't installed strace though yet, I'll run it and see what happens. I'm looking through a strings output now |
| 14:52.39 | zecke | dwildes: if you can not run a full blown image, you might simply want to avoid striping of the binaries? |
| 14:52.50 | zecke | dwildes: and you can allow debugging on a per package level |
| 14:52.51 | prasinos | zecke: That wat it! It needed glibc-static-devel while I had only glibc-devel installed. Thanks a lot. |
| 14:54.06 | zecke | prasinos: well next thing is to find out why it needs it |
| 14:54.20 | zecke | prasinos: or at least find an appropriate place in the wiki to add the knowledge to |
| 14:55.51 | dmunicio | zecke: when I make bootstrap-image... al the ipkg are installed, aren't they? |
| 14:56.11 | dmunicio | i mean all the ipkg |
| 14:56.27 | dwildes | I did have another image built earlier that had all of the debug turned on in the local.conf & that image worked okay. Now I was wanting to make my image smaller by commenting out the debug statements. I then removed the 'tmp' directory, and recompiled from scratch. After I done that, I'm getting the segfaults. (if that helps any) |
| 14:57.50 | Pigi | later all, guys |
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| 15:17.58 | dwildes | anyone willing to help me figure out this strace output? :-) |
| 15:18.29 | dwildes | I got the image compiled with strace now & finally getting some 'segmentation fault' info |
| 15:20.56 | dwildes | URL for the strace output: http://pastebin.ca/24851 |
| 15:25.32 | MP0 | I'm not sure if this is normal but it's having a bit o difficulty with nonexisting libraries |
| 15:26.21 | MP0 | it seems like it got killed right after it attached its signal handlers and checked the kernel version. |
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| 15:43.11 | dmunicio | can anyone help me |
| 15:44.14 | MP0 | I think the problem is missing libraries, but I don't know how to solve it. |
| 15:44.48 | MP0 | if you look at your strace, it tries to open some libraries and fails |
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| 15:45.36 | dwildes | MP0 - yeah, I'm digging through now to see where I can install those libraries. Hopefully that'll solve this. :) |
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| 15:49.31 | lardman|busy | dmunicio: You still there? You need to edit the meta file which creates the image you're trying to build and add your package name to it |
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| 15:54.36 | guillermo | anybody succesfull creating any akita image? |
| 15:55.09 | guillermo | I compiled several packages, but I' having problems with images |
| 15:55.17 | guillermo | I don't know if it's my local.conf |
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| 15:57.18 | dwildes | MP0: apparently those two files (ld.so.preload & ld.so.nohwcap) do not have any 'real' relation to the issue. They are more/less config files for the LD libraries |
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| 15:58.43 | dwildes | so, I don't believe they are causing the segfault, it must be the line #43 in the post |
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| 16:00.21 | dmunicio00 | lardman|busy: have you read my post? |
| 16:00.46 | lardman|work | dmunicio00: since I replied to you? |
| 16:01.06 | dmunicio00 | yes |
| 16:01.20 | lardman|work | dmunicio00: I've not seen anything |
| 16:02.49 | dwildes | you know what - every app that is 'segfaulting' end with that last line: |
| 16:02.52 | dwildes | _sysctl({{CTL_KERN, KERN_VERSION, 0, 20d49, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0}, 2, 0xbffffa94, 30, (nil), 0}) = 0 |
| 16:04.58 | dwildes | And I don't have the executable 'sysctl' in the image. Doesn't that suppose to be included within glibc? |
| 16:07.02 | lardman|work | dmunicio00: If you want to add your package to the bootstrap image, then look at packages/meta/bootstrap-image.bb which points to task-bootstrap.bb. Edit the last one and add the name of your package to it, then it will be installed. |
| 16:09.32 | guillermo | is it normal getting fetch failed due to servers down ? |
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| 16:13.47 | dwildes | is anyone else running an x86 image of OE? |
| 16:14.30 | CosmicPenguin | indeed |
| 16:14.49 | dwildes | cool - do you have 'atftpd' or 'appWeb' installed? |
| 16:16.11 | CosmicPenguin | oh, no |
| 16:16.26 | CosmicPenguin | I subscribe literally to the E part of OE |
| 16:18.12 | dmunicio00 | i said: are you sure? I thought that all the ipk files are installed |
| 16:19.03 | dwildes | CosmicPenguin: thanks anyway |
| 16:19.11 | CosmicPenguin | sorry |
| 16:19.44 | dwildes | np - I'm sure it'll get figured out eventually *hahah* |
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| 16:31.28 | lardman|work | dmunicio00: Yes, I am sure, if all of the ipkg files which are present in tmp/deploy/ipk were installed my flash images would be rather large |
| 16:44.16 | lardman|work | bye |
| 16:44.49 | JustinP | mickey|resting: monotone.vanille.de is timing out again...:-( |
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| 17:10.59 | mreimer | zecke: pong |
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| 17:44.23 | mreimer | where does unconfigured.sh come from? I don't see it in rootfs |
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| 18:44.55 | mreimer | Why is packages/tslib/tslib/tslib.sh empty? |
| 18:46.34 | MP0 | | checking for main in -lm... configure: error: Link tests are not allowed after GCC_NO_EXECUTABLES. |
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| 18:53.10 | MP0 | the configure script for gcc-cross-4.0.0-r1 appears to be broken |
| 18:53.23 | MP0 | it complains about |
| 18:53.25 | MP0 | | checking for main in -lm... configure: error: Link tests are not allowed after GCC_NO_EXECUTABLES. |
| 18:53.39 | MP0 | The accepted solution appears to be either to remove the check from the configure script |
| 18:53.41 | MP0 | or |
| 18:53.54 | MP0 | set an env variable to skip the check |
| 18:55.35 | MP0 | namely ac_cv_search_strerror="none required" |
| 18:55.36 | MP0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:56.09 | dwildes | before I done an update this morning (the last one was about 3weeks ago), I was able to compile 'mysql', and now I can't compile it. :-( I'm wondering if this is where my other 'segment faults' are a potential result from? |
| 18:56.13 | dwildes | it ends with: |
| 18:56.18 | dwildes | default.c:397: internal compiler error: in get_indirect_ref_operands, at tree-ssa-operands.c:1449 |
| 18:57.17 | dwildes | I'm using gcc='4.0.1', glibc='2.3.2' for machine='x86' |
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| 18:58.33 | dwildes | MP0: what platform are you compiling for? |
| 18:59.05 | dwildes | my gcc-cross-4.0.0-r1 packages compiled at least |
| 18:59.27 | dwildes | just checked under tmp/deploy/ipk |
| 18:59.51 | MP0 | openomap |
| 19:00.21 | MP0 | I'm going to try doing bitbake again and hope I get a better result |
| 19:01.56 | MP0 | <---- has not once been able to build a bootstrap-image |
| 19:02.42 | dwildes | what machine spec are you using? I can try a compile over here to see if I get same/similar results |
| 19:03.22 | MP0 | BB_VERSION = "1.3.2"OE_REVISION = "694a5fa155d742b0e06d8723ba2a338fac5c716e"TARGET_ARCH = "arm"TARGET_OS = "linux"MACHINE = "omap5912osk"DISTRO = "openomap"TARGET_FPU = "soft" |
| 19:04.02 | MP0 | I had to fix a mispelling in one of the machine .conf files |
| 19:04.44 | MP0 | in |
| 19:04.45 | MP0 | org.openembedded.dev/conf/machi |
| 19:04.47 | MP0 | ne/tune-arm926ejs.conf |
| 19:05.22 | MP0 | -mtune should be -mtune=arm926ejs as opposed to arm920ej-s |
| 19:05.54 | MP0 | hmm, just tried to bitbake again... same problem |
| 19:06.35 | MP0 | basically the problem is well described in http://www.nabble.com/crosstool-and-uClibc-t120686.html |
| 19:06.40 | MP0 | so hopefully I can fix up the files |
| 19:06.46 | dwildes | okay - I'm configured for your platform, about to compile |
| 19:07.21 | dwildes | how long did you compile before getting errors? |
| 19:07.48 | MP0 | uhm, hours |
| 19:07.54 | MP0 | I'm on a 400MHz machine |
| 19:08.10 | MP0 | bootstrap-image anyways |
| 19:08.31 | dwildes | ah - on a 1.8ghz AMD, so it might be an hour or so before I'll have info for ya |
| 19:09.49 | dwildes | I've got 2gigs RAM :) |
| 19:10.20 | MP0 | You realize that after gcc 4 builds on your computer... |
| 19:10.27 | MP0 | ... I'm going to have to kill you and take your RAM |
| 19:10.37 | dwildes | but your compile dies in gcc-cross right? |
| 19:10.54 | MP0 | yeah |
| 19:11.35 | dwildes | well - it's off, I'll let ya know what happens |
| 19:11.52 | MP0 | k |
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| 20:45.17 | *** topic/#oe is OpenEmbedded Developer Lounge | http://bugs.openembedded.org/ | This is not a distribution support channel | OE and bitbake were made to match, keep them both up to date | Intrested in LCA Embedded Miniconf 2006 - contact Mithro |
| 20:45.59 | reenoo_ | ibot! |
| 20:46.06 | reenoo_ | ~botsnack |
| 20:46.06 | ibot | reenoo_: thanks |
| 20:48.02 | koen | and there was much rejoicing! |
| 20:48.27 | reenoo_ | hehe |
| 20:52.50 | reenoo_ | heh. spiffy |
| 20:52.53 | reenoo_ | http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=24256 |
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| 20:53.24 | giel | hi there |
| 20:54.20 | koen | hey giel |
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| 20:55.06 | giel | i've got kerberos running on my slug |
| 20:55.13 | giel | still finishing up the bb |
| 20:57.34 | JustinP | koen: actually you're not quite adhering to the commit standard either. You give too much info. ;-) I'd much rather you list package names than the full file path. |
| 20:57.39 | JustinP | koen: btscanner |
| 20:57.48 | JustinP | koen: instead of packages/btscanner/btscanner_2.0.bb |
| 20:58.01 | JustinP | if someone wants to know what specific file they can look a bit farther |
| 20:58.47 | koen | there is no 'standard' |
| 20:58.52 | koen | there's only a proposal |
| 20:59.07 | JustinP | true |
| 20:59.22 | JustinP | which is why I said I'd personally like just the package name |
| 20:59.27 | JustinP | it's supposed to eb a summary, after all |
| 20:59.30 | JustinP | details are below |
| 21:00.19 | JustinP | (in the commit e-mail) |
| 21:00.31 | reenoo_ | koen: if you disagree with the proposal you are free to respond to oe@. otherwise please follow the policy |
| 21:04.44 | koen | I extrapolated "<configfile/class name>: For changes that affect files in conf/ or |
| 21:04.44 | koen | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:04.44 | koen | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:04.50 | koen | to normal .bbs too |
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| 21:05.34 | reenoo_ | name |
| 21:05.37 | reenoo_ | not path |
| 21:07.20 | koen | what's exactly the problem with using path instead of the name? |
| 21:07.36 | JustinP | IMHO efl.bbclass is also acceptable, but classes/efl would be the standard |
| 21:07.40 | JustinP | koen: it's more information |
| 21:07.48 | koen | and? |
| 21:07.48 | JustinP | harder to get at what it really is about |
| 21:08.06 | JustinP | this is supposed to be a quick summary for those that don't want to look at the files changed |
| 21:08.17 | JustinP | and for people to weed things out simply by subject |
| 21:08.29 | koen | what's exactly the problem with using path instead of the name? |
| 21:08.35 | JustinP | if you use the full path then the actual changes are pushed way out |
| 21:08.36 | reenoo_ | koen: tbh because it doesn't fit into the Subject: line in the MUAs I use |
| 21:09.00 | reenoo_ | koen: and I'm on a 1600x1200 screen here |
| 21:09.01 | JustinP | and it makes it much harder to see, at a glance, what has happened |
| 21:09.16 | reenoo_ | koen: no way I could read that on my laptop |
| 21:09.42 | JustinP | plus the packages/ is redundant the the second directory really adds nothin g |
| 21:09.57 | JustinP | all that is needed is the name of the package |
| 21:10.33 | koen | reenoo_: I'm not on oe-commits, I use cia.navi.cx/stats/project/openembedded/.rss |
| 21:11.27 | koen | which does not list files |
| 21:12.31 | reenoo_ | it used to list files |
| 21:13.12 | reenoo_ | but cia is down more often than not anyway |
| 21:13.28 | koen | looking at the bk history we used to list filenames |
| 21:13.42 | koen | reenoo_: commits get queued for cia |
| 21:13.52 | JustinP | well, the policy changed... |
| 21:14.01 | koen | cia-web is more reliable than cia-bot |
| 21:15.51 | reenoo_ | koen: which bk history are you referring to? the one at oe-devel.bkbits.net doesn't list full paths. |
| 21:16.14 | koen | reenoo_: I said filenames, not path |
| 21:16.37 | reenoo_ | again. there was no formal policy back then |
| 21:16.55 | koen | correct |
| 21:17.03 | koen | and there isn't one now either |
| 21:17.04 | reenoo_ | and if you disagree with the proposal I sent to oe@ please respond to that message |
| 21:18.50 | reenoo_ | with the large amount of contributors with push access we have now there's no room for "I'll do my own thing" any more. the commit messages policy is just a small attempt at bringing a bit of a structure into the chaos |
| 21:19.29 | reenoo_ | think of it as a request for making things easier to follow |
| 21:20.05 | JustinP | koen: your commit messages are close to the standard, but they introduce more complecity and make it harder to easily ascertain what is going on |
| 21:20.29 | JustinP | koen: I tend to gloss over your commit if I'm not paying attention because it's less apparent what it being changed |
| 21:20.45 | JustinP | geez...talk about mistyping... |
| 21:20.50 | JustinP | commitS |
| 21:20.52 | JustinP | what IS |
| 21:23.00 | lucasvo | | + set +x |
| 21:23.00 | lucasvo | | log_check: Using /home/lucas/pda/build/tmp/work/gpe-image-1.0-r17/temp/log.do_rootfs.10431 as logfile |
| 21:23.03 | lucasvo | | log_check: There were error messages in the logfile |
| 21:23.05 | lucasvo | | log_check: Matched keyword: [Cannot find package] |
| 21:23.08 | lucasvo | | |
| 21:23.11 | lucasvo | | Cannot find package task-bootstrap. |
| 21:23.13 | lucasvo | | |
| 21:23.16 | lucasvo | NOTE: Task failed: /home/lucas/pda/build/tmp/work/gpe-image-1.0-r17/temp/log.do_rootfs.10431 |
| 21:23.19 | lucasvo | NOTE: package gpe-image-1.0-r17: task do_rootfs: failed |
| 21:23.21 | lucasvo | ERROR: TaskFailed event exception, aborting |
| 21:23.23 | lucasvo | I should have used pastebin :( |
| 21:23.25 | lucasvo | NOTE: package gpe-image-1.0: failed |
| 21:23.34 | lucasvo | what is wrong? |
| 21:24.13 | JustinP | ~pastebin |
| 21:24.14 | ibot | rumour has it, pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca/ |
| 21:24.52 | JustinP | lucasvo: package task-bootstrap is missing |
| 21:25.01 | lucasvo | JustinP: but how? |
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| 21:25.49 | koen | reenoo_: mail sent |
| 21:27.11 | koen | reenoo_: agree with having a policy and all |
| 21:27.34 | koen | but from the lack of response it's hard to tell wether people agree or don't care |
| 21:28.36 | JustinP | I believe it was discussed here in IRC |
| 21:28.58 | JustinP | at least somewhat |
| 21:31.09 | JustinP | lucasvo: how did you runt hat build? |
| 21:32.13 | lucasvo | JustinP: bitbake gpe-image |
| 21:32.41 | JustinP | lucasvo: well...do you see a task-bootstrap in your tmp/deploy/ipk? |
| 21:34.08 | lucasvo | task-bootstrap_1.0-r25_pxa250.ipk |
| 21:34.26 | JustinP | lucasvo: don't know what to tell you |
| 21:34.30 | lucasvo | but why is it pxa250 when it should be pxa270? |
| 21:34.41 | JustinP | lucasvo: that's likely your problem then... |
| 21:35.02 | lucasvo | JustinP: so how can I get that task-bootrstrap? |
| 21:39.41 | JustinP | lucasvo: I don't know. Sound slike you may have set something up wrong...or there could be an error..what did you set in local.conf? |
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| 21:47.05 | lucasvo | JustinP: I do not know what should be wrong.. |
| 21:48.26 | JustinP | lucasvo: ok, so what did you set in local.conf? |
| 22:01.31 | reenoo_ | koen: actually I guess you could just as well use the nslu2-linux rss feed |
| 22:02.06 | reenoo_ | now that they don't use a separate branch anymore |
| 22:03.13 | koen | that only tracks .dev |
| 22:03.19 | koen | and adds slug svn |
| 22:03.41 | reenoo_ | ok, then pester mickey to fix the script |
| 22:04.56 | koen | I still can't see what's wrong with using filenames (not paths!) in the commit message |
| 22:05.25 | koen | s/filenames/one filename/ |
| 22:07.48 | reenoo_ | filenames for changes to packages are longer, don't add any essential information, and don't scale to the multiple filenames case |
| 22:08.16 | koen | they do add essential info |
| 22:08.23 | koen | foo.inc vs foo.bb |
| 22:08.54 | reenoo_ | no, that's either part of the mail body or the stuff cia normally adds anyway |
| 22:09.26 | koen | if we'd follow that explanation the whole message is useless |
| 22:09.37 | koen | since the mails will contain a diff |
| 22:10.00 | reenoo_ | dude. I can't read ~50 diffs a day |
| 22:10.23 | JustinP | koen: again, the point of the first line of a commit message is a *quick summary* of changes |
| 22:10.39 | JustinP | koen: version #'s, inc vs bb, that's all detail which isn't needed there |
| 22:10.58 | reenoo_ | right |
| 22:11.27 | JustinP | we want to make it easy for people to track what they want to track and gloss over the rest |
| 22:11.35 | JustinP | it makes QA much easier |
| 22:11.55 | reenoo_ | that's the idea |
| 22:12.08 | JustinP | people can watch the RSS/webpage/oe-commits list, easily see what concerns them, and then dig in deeper for the things they care about |
| 22:12.26 | koen | it's a tiny bit of info which clarifies so much |
| 22:13.49 | JustinP | but is it needed for the summary? that's the question. If I'm browsing for changes in general do I care what version of a package you changed or whether it was an inb or bb? no. If you do care you can see it in the file list easily enough. |
| 22:14.05 | JustinP | or you can always add such things to the "detail" of the message |
| 22:14.30 | reenoo_ | koen: please just do me that one favour. I've been trying to keep up with the huge amount of changes that go in these days but it's very hard... |
| 22:14.44 | koen | I'm trying that too |
| 22:14.56 | reenoo_ | stuff like the mess pH5 created with bluez-utils just shouldn't happen |
| 22:15.21 | reenoo_ | the more easy I can filter messages in my mailboxes the more patches I can review |
| 22:15.36 | JustinP | I don't have the time to go through all of the commits I see everyday for the various projects I work on. But with quick summaries I can chekc what I care/know about fairly easily and get a general overview with the rest. |
| 22:16.00 | koen | you can filter 'foo: bla' but not 'foo_2.0.bb: bla'? |
| 22:16.25 | JustinP | the less info, the easier to filter |
| 22:16.26 | koen | I *really* want version info in the first line |
| 22:16.37 | JustinP | foo: added foo to 2.0 |
| 22:16.38 | reenoo_ | well. I can't visually filter hundreds of foo_2.0.bb: bla |
| 22:16.43 | JustinP | exactly |
| 22:16.54 | reenoo_ | which I have to every morning |
| 22:17.07 | koen | using a filename is the easiest way to do that since you can c/p it from the bottom of the message monotone presents you with |
| 22:17.14 | JustinP | words and filenames aren't that different in small doses, but with 100 commits it makes a huge difference |
| 22:17.35 | JustinP | we're talking about ease of review, not ease of commit |
| 22:17.39 | JustinP | 1 person commits |
| 22:17.42 | JustinP | 100 read |
| 22:17.53 | JustinP | the time of the 100 who read is more precious than that of the one dev committing |
| 22:18.24 | koen | I think we both agree on the essence of the idea |
| 22:18.46 | koen | would it be ok to make the version mandatory in the short description? |
| 22:19.03 | koen | "foo: bla in 2.0" ? |
| 22:19.28 | koen | that would give you the ability to filter and me a version |
| 22:19.40 | reenoo_ | fine with me |
| 22:20.03 | reenoo_ | announce it as mandatory and we should be all set |
| 22:20.17 | koen | ok |
| 22:20.17 | JustinP | fine by me |
| 22:20.32 | JustinP | although it should only be mandatory for packages with multiple versions |
| 22:20.49 | JustinP | or when you update a version |
| 22:22.30 | koen | mail sent |
| 22:24.09 | CosmicPenguin | The declaring mandatory bit that is |
| 22:25.04 | koen | OE lacks a clear authority |
| 22:25.15 | koen | which has good sides and bad |
| 22:35.14 | lucasvo | re, here is the output I get when building bitbake gpe-image:http://wservices.ch/~lucas/output |
| 22:35.56 | lucasvo | and my local.conf http://wservices.ch/~lucas/local.conf |
| 22:36.06 | lucasvo | what the hell is wrong? |
| 22:42.09 | guillermo | I'm having exactly de same problem compiling compiling a gpe-image |
| 22:42.26 | lucasvo | guillermo: ha! |
| 22:42.55 | lucasvo | guillermo: with the same package? |
| 22:43.10 | guillermo | mmm |
| 22:43.16 | guillermo | I don't remember right now |
| 22:43.19 | JustinP | lucasvo: don't set TARGET_ARCH or TARGET_OS |
| 22:43.25 | guillermo | I'm gonna try |
| 22:43.34 | lucasvo | JustinP: why? |
| 22:43.41 | JustinP | lucasvo: do you have the newest bitbake and OE sources? |
| 22:43.52 | JustinP | lucasvo: because MACHINE and DISTRO set those. No need for you to. |
| 22:44.44 | guillermo | I have no TARGET_{ARCH;OS} but I get the same error |
| 22:46.03 | JustinP | what version of bitbake are you using? |
| 22:46.07 | JustinP | and have you updated OE? |
| 22:46.12 | lucasvo | JustinP: my oe is up to date |
| 22:46.38 | lucasvo | [0:46:57 lucas@wservices <0> monotone.vanille.de]% bitbake --version |
| 22:46.38 | lucasvo | BitBake Build Tool Core version 1.3.2.1, bitbake version 1.3.2 |
| 22:46.49 | lucasvo | do I have to be root for compiling? |
| 22:46.53 | JustinP | NO |
| 22:47.02 | lucasvo | ok good |
| 22:47.07 | JustinP | DO NOT RUN bitbake AS ROOT |
| 22:47.12 | JustinP | EVER |
| 22:47.48 | JustinP | phoo |
| 22:47.55 | JustinP | I think it's an error in gpe-image.bb |
| 22:48.12 | lucasvo | JustinP: good.... |
| 22:48.47 | guillermo | it could be |
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| 22:49.02 | CosmicPenguin | I wonder why we've never checked the UID and printed a nasty message |
| 22:49.45 | JustinP | hmmm |
| 22:50.22 | guillermo | JustinP: you got a spitz? |
| 22:50.53 | guillermo | have you tried any 2.6 kernel? |
| 22:51.22 | JustinP | hmmm....or maybe not... |
| 22:51.27 | JustinP | no, I haven't tried the 2.6 kernel |
| 22:51.33 | guillermo | too bad |
| 22:51.35 | JustinP | I would like sound and CE-RH2 support |
| 22:51.46 | guillermo | yeah that'd be nice |
| 22:51.58 | JustinP | but I know next to nothing about kernel hacking and don't have the time right now to figure it out |
| 22:52.03 | guillermo | but it's not a must for me |
| 22:52.59 | guillermo | JustinP: gpe or opie? |
| 22:53.25 | JustinP | heh, stupid me. no, it doesn't seem to be an error in gpe0image.bb |
| 22:53.31 | JustinP | guillermo: E |
| 22:54.02 | guillermo | what's E ? |
| 22:55.10 | JustinP | guillermo: http://enlightenment.org/ |
| 22:55.15 | guillermo | ooo |
| 22:55.20 | guillermo | beautiful |
| 22:55.20 | JustinP | e17 |
| 22:55.30 | guillermo | but I thoght it was experimental yet |
| 22:55.34 | guillermo | is it usable? |
| 22:55.37 | JustinP | heh, of course |
| 22:55.42 | JustinP | on both counts ;-) |
| 22:55.49 | guillermo | awesome |
| 22:55.55 | JustinP | technically alpha, but works generally well |
| 22:56.05 | guillermo | how could I get an image with that? |
| 22:56.06 | JustinP | I maintain the efl/e17 stuff in OE |
| 22:56.10 | JustinP | bitbake e-image |
| 22:56.16 | JustinP | it's very big, though |
| 22:56.21 | JustinP | >90M last I looked |
| 22:56.30 | JustinP | e-image-core is ~26M I think... |
| 22:57.17 | guillermo | so I guess the picture from the OE from the last OE newsletter was from you |
| 22:57.30 | lucasvo | JustinP: so do you know what I should do witb my gpe-image? |
| 22:58.23 | guillermo | I get : "Cannot find package task-bootstrap" when I try to compile my gpe-image |
| 22:58.32 | guillermo | is weird, isn't it? |
| 22:59.15 | lucasvo | yes |
| 22:59.24 | lucasvo | I have the same problem |
| 22:59.46 | JustinP | lucasvo, guillermo: bitbake task-bootstrap, then bitbake gpe-image |
| 22:59.47 | guillermo | JustinP: is E more functional than xfce right now? |
| 23:00.09 | JustinP | guillermo: actually I think that was form Mickey's machine, but yeah, I got the image together. |
| 23:00.15 | JustinP | guillermo: never used xfce |
| 23:00.20 | guillermo | ok |
| 23:00.29 | JustinP | guillermo: also be warned, you can't use e-image unless you have a keyboard |
| 23:00.31 | guillermo | but isn't it to heavy? |
| 23:00.37 | JustinP | it works just fine for me |
| 23:00.39 | JustinP | on my spitz |
| 23:00.49 | guillermo | what do you mean keyboard? external? |
| 23:00.53 | JustinP | no one else has tested on any other machines to my knowledge |
| 23:00.56 | guillermo | I have an akita |
| 23:01.00 | JustinP | Zaurii have a built-in keyboard |
| 23:01.04 | JustinP | then you're fine |
| 23:01.07 | guillermo | ah ok |
| 23:01.12 | guillermo | you mean the built in keyboard |
| 23:01.19 | JustinP | on an ipaq you can't login because entrance doesn't have an on-screen keyboard |
| 23:01.45 | guillermo | aha |
| 23:01.58 | JustinP | but it could be made to use gpe-login instead... |
| 23:01.59 | JustinP | hmmm... |
| 23:02.27 | JustinP | I used to just install e over a GPE image |
| 23:02.32 | guillermo | but then it wouldn't be so nice |
| 23:02.34 | guillermo | :) |
| 23:02.55 | guillermo | at least the picture was impressive |
| 23:04.19 | guillermo | I tried to bitbake task-bootstrap before gpe-image |
| 23:04.23 | guillermo | but it didn't work |
| 23:04.30 | JustinP | what happened? |
| 23:04.41 | JustinP | for the bitbake task-bootstrap? |
| 23:04.56 | guillermo | after task-bootstrap it didn't show any compiling or anything |
| 23:05.35 | guillermo | I got 0 attempted packages installed |
| 23:05.39 | guillermo | or something like that |
| 23:05.53 | guillermo | I'm doing it again to see the exact output |
| 23:06.08 | lucasvo | NOTE: build 200510080103: completed |
| 23:06.08 | lucasvo | Build statistics: |
| 23:06.08 | lucasvo | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:06.17 | lucasvo | this is what it shows |
| 23:06.18 | guillermo | exactly that |
| 23:07.20 | JustinP | bitbake -cclean task-bootstrap |
| 23:07.24 | JustinP | bitbake task-bootstrap |
| 23:07.29 | JustinP | or |
| 23:07.31 | JustinP | bitbake -i |
| 23:07.36 | JustinP | rebuild task-bootstrap |
| 23:07.42 | JustinP | -i is nice :-) |
| 23:08.51 | guillermo | ok I'm on it |
| 23:10.59 | guillermo | ok task-bootstrap worked now |
| 23:11.05 | guillermo | let's see gpe-image |
| 23:12.16 | guillermo | btw, what other options exists for : TARGET_FPU = "soft" |
| 23:13.16 | JustinP | hard? |
| 23:13.23 | reenoo_ | no |
| 23:13.43 | reenoo_ | either "soft" or empty ("") |
| 23:13.54 | guillermo | omm |
| 23:14.46 | guillermo | reenoo_: what's the main problem for running swing application with OE |
| 23:15.05 | guillermo | gnuclasspath or the pdas themselves? |
| 23:16.34 | guillermo | ok the old error is gone, but now I get a new one about installing libgpg-error0 |
| 23:16.54 | guillermo | is it so hard to compile an image |
| 23:17.01 | guillermo | or it's just a misconfig? |
| 23:17.02 | JustinP | guillermo: not, it's very simple |
| 23:17.14 | JustinP | guillermo: seems you got something corrupted...lost some ipk files or something |
| 23:17.24 | CIA-7 | 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * r417b6b1a... 10/: lineak: fix S |
| 23:17.27 | guillermo | and how do I clean it? |
| 23:17.27 | JustinP | guillermo: I would suggest removing your tmpdir and trying again... |
| 23:17.31 | guillermo | ok |
| 23:17.32 | guillermo | thx |
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| 23:18.26 | JustinP | mickey|resting: ewi and vanille are supposed to sync, right? I'm pretty sure I pushed some changes to ewi earlier but they weren't on vanille just now... |
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| 23:23.11 | mithro | hey people |
| 23:23.17 | mithro | head out to Hamburg tommorrow |
| 23:24.57 | JustinP | I can't :-( |
| 23:25.40 | guillermo | what are they so many developers from germany in oe? |
| 23:30.13 | JustinP | in EU, yeah |
| 23:30.33 | reenoo_ | guillermo: both |
| 23:30.37 | mithro | s/head/I head |
| 23:31.21 | guillermo | reenoo_: so right now imposible to be used properly, oder? |
| 23:31.41 | reenoo_ | guillermo: depends on the application |
| 23:32.10 | guillermo | something I want to create |
| 23:32.35 | guillermo | I don't find clear documentation about what is working and what is not |
| 23:33.01 | guillermo | but using awt it's painfull for anything minimally complex |
| 23:33.32 | reenoo_ | other than $application works to $extent there is no documentation |
| 23:34.22 | guillermo | too bad |
| 23:34.49 | guillermo | last year I worked with sablevm and ipaqs 3600 |
| 23:35.00 | reenoo_ | and on pdas you may run into additional trouble due to the X server being slightly different (bit-depth, no XKB, etc.) and matchbox being fairly strict (if you use matchbox) |
| 23:35.20 | guillermo | and I thought with akitas would be different |
| 23:35.43 | reenoo_ | they are using pretty much the same environment |
| 23:35.43 | guillermo | what about E ? |
| 23:35.54 | guillermo | would it be a better platform than gpe? |
| 23:35.54 | JustinP | it's quite possible to run a full X on these systems |
| 23:35.57 | JustinP | with xkb, etc |
| 23:36.10 | JustinP | java and e don't get along IIRC |
| 23:36.15 | JustinP | not e17 at least |
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| 23:36.27 | JustinP | java does stupid things...hacks around the WM |
| 23:36.48 | reenoo_ | well. E isn't exactly lightweight |
| 23:36.59 | guillermo | so, what is the best option for java ? |
| 23:37.07 | JustinP | someone was complaining that their Java apps ended up with no window content in e17 |
| 23:37.28 | JustinP | reenoo_: not quite true. The default themes arent lightweight. E itself isn't that bad. Just make a minimal theme and you'd be fine. |
| 23:37.43 | tmbinc | does OE's python contain autoconf stuff to get the includedir to Python.h ? AM_PATH_PYTHON doesn't include that, as far as i can see, and all autoconf macros i found were not suitable for cross compiling. |
| 23:37.50 | JustinP | guillermo: GPE is a palmtop environment |
| 23:37.53 | JustinP | guillermo: e is e |
| 23:38.10 | guillermo | yeah I know |
| 23:38.22 | JustinP | guillermo: GPE is also far more mature |
| 23:38.24 | reenoo_ | JustinP: note that we are talking about _interpreter only_ VMs and a highly inefficient toolkit (swing) here |
| 23:38.32 | guillermo | but what is e using? X, fb or what? |
| 23:38.33 | JustinP | guillermo: e17 is done well, but it is nowhere near stable |
| 23:38.52 | reenoo_ | JustinP: every single cpu cycle counts there... |
| 23:39.18 | JustinP | guillermo: X, e can't run on FB, etc. Only X. the *libs* can run on FB but e (wm) can't |
| 23:39.27 | JustinP | reenoo_: sure |
| 23:40.23 | guillermo | so, the best option for java in my zaurus would be a full featured X, but how? |
| 23:40.38 | reenoo_ | no |
| 23:40.55 | reenoo_ | fix gnu classpath to not make bad assumptions about the x server or the wm |
| 23:41.51 | reenoo_ | also. it may just work by now |
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| 23:43.20 | reenoo_ | I haven't tried any swing apps recently. screenshots of current cvs look promising (on a desktop though) |
| 23:43.31 | reenoo_ | see planet.classpath.org |
| 23:43.54 | _guillermo | thanks |
| 23:44.40 | dwildes | well - I recompiled from scratch using gcc=3.4.4, and I'm still getting a 'segfault' when trying to run atftpd. :-( |
| 23:52.49 | df00z | Jeu |
| 23:52.52 | df00z | hey* |
| 23:53.08 | df00z | Does OE's cross compiler define __linux? |
| 23:56.46 | _guillermo | what about xfce and java, good idea or not? |