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02:14.09 | schmito | this has probably been asked a million times but can someone tell me where oe.handhelds.org went? |
02:18.58 | schmito | hello? |
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02:43.47 | piku | anyone know if app level bugs should be reported in oe bug tracker? |
02:43.54 | piku | like for instance, gaim has incorrect tabs |
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06:12.12 | toedler | Good morning everyone! can any of you tell me the IP of cvs.handhelds.org ? |
06:13.14 | france | toedler: are you running your own caching dns server? |
06:13.42 | toedler | no, but i'm behind some caching servers |
06:14.02 | france | you should have them clear the cache |
06:14.11 | toedler | can you tell me a nameserver that knows it ? |
06:14.21 | france | 128.31.0.21 |
06:14.39 | toedler | thank you. |
06:15.06 | france | welcome |
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06:34.21 | Hrw|husky | hi |
06:35.34 | Hrw|husky | getting wifi/wep connected here is a pita... 3 minutes to obtain lease from dhcp.... |
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07:11.14 | ggilbert | mornin zecke |
07:11.21 | zecke | moin |
07:12.28 | ggilbert | anything cool in opie? |
07:13.32 | zecke | ggilbert: OpenSync announcement and bluelightning working on a Opie Plugin |
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07:13.45 | ggilbert | cool |
07:14.03 | alan|home | morning ! |
07:14.43 | zecke | ggilbert: and hrw is doing plishing and a note application |
07:14.56 | zecke | ggilbert: and I'm quite busy with this term |
07:15.06 | zecke | and I need to hurry torwads uni now |
07:15.52 | alan|home | e i don't understand how to pull the new oz/familiar branch. Anyone can give me the monotone command, please ? |
07:16.00 | ggilbert | How's your health doing? |
07:18.00 | alan|home | ggilbert: is it me you are asking ? well, i'm fine... but i guess the question is for zecke ;) |
07:18.45 | ggilbert | Well I meant zecke |
07:18.55 | ggilbert | But I'm glad you're well |
07:19.00 | alan|home | hehe |
07:26.18 | pb_ | hi ggilbert |
07:45.21 | hrw|work | morning |
07:46.22 | hrw|work | ggilbert: monotone pull SERVER org.openembedded.oz354fam083 |
07:46.39 | ggilbert | asssdw? |
07:47.07 | alan|home | morning hrw|work |
07:47.32 | hrw|work | ops. |
07:47.35 | hrw|work | alan|home: monotone pull SERVER org.openembedded.oz354fam083 |
07:48.56 | alan|home | thanks hrw|work... i thought this was what i did... |
07:56.43 | alan|home | strange... it is what i did, but it didn't work last time... |
08:02.43 | XorA | morning |
08:06.37 | hrw|work | hi XorA |
08:09.21 | RP | morning all |
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08:40.52 | hrw|work | hi koen |
08:41.35 | koen_ | hey hrw|work |
08:42.10 | hrw|work | koen: kick the baby ;) |
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08:44.48 | CIA-7 | 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * r361ee8eb... 10/: |
08:44.48 | CIA-7 | samba: fix uclibc builds (struct timespec) in 3.0.20 |
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08:44.53 | CIA-7 | ucslugc: reintroduce support for UCSLUGC_* names in parallel with NSLU2_* (all versions) |
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08:44.59 | CIA-7 | 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * rc1622bb4... 10/: |
08:45.01 | CIA-7 | openslug: move to new configuration file organisation, use IAL 2.0, remove zImage (all versions) |
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08:57.42 | hrw|work | heh.. nano 1.2.5 need more work to get it in OE |
08:58.13 | koen | vim is better anyway :) |
08:58.41 | hrw|work | yes |
08:58.53 | hrw|work | I dont use nano - just saw that new verson is available |
08:59.12 | hrw|work | anyway will fix 1.2.1 src_uri and update 1.3.5 to 1.3.9 |
09:01.54 | hrw|work | done |
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09:02.36 | CIA-7 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r1b69a3e7... 10/: nano: upgraded development version to 1.3.9 |
09:02.40 | CIA-7 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r16aa4270... 10/: nano: fixed SRC_URI for 1.2.1 release |
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09:09.25 | dunky | hi,RP |
09:10.37 | dunky | I am build one kernel ,does it support initrd ?(oz-3.5.4 | kernel 2.6.14)? |
09:11.37 | RP | dunky: The Zaurus kernels generally boot straight from the root partition |
09:12.19 | dunky | RP: if I wanna a bootsplash ,what shall I do ? thank you |
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09:13.30 | RP | dunky: Enabling the elpp patch is probably easiest. For hints on how to do it look at the kernel .inc file |
09:14.48 | RP | dunky: Or add usplash to OE :) |
09:15.36 | koen | or use gpe-bootsplash |
09:15.59 | dunky | which one is easiest about what you said.? |
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09:20.00 | dunky | koen:whether gpe-bootsplash same as bootsplash? |
09:20.28 | koen | gpe-bootsplash takes a png or svg and displays that during boot |
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09:20.50 | AvengerMoJo | koen: does gpe-bootsplash depend on gpe ? or fb |
09:20.52 | toedler | Hi everyone! can you tell me where to find the script to generate a Packages.gz after building some packages? |
09:21.12 | hrw|work | toedler: rebuild any image or use ipkg-make-index |
09:21.15 | koen | AvengerMoJo: only on libsvg and the framebuffer |
09:21.23 | toedler | thank you. |
09:21.31 | hrw|work | koen: libsvg and libpng rather? |
09:21.38 | AvengerMoJo | koen: hum |
09:21.45 | koen | hrw|work: yes :) |
09:22.35 | hrw|work | 'cvs add -kb' should die |
09:23.52 | hrw|work | we support using misc CVSDATE in SRC_URI? |
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09:29.10 | hrw|work | NOTE: package opie-notes-0.3-r0: task do_build: completed |
09:32.45 | AvengerMoJo | koen: what about elpp I couldn't get much info on that |
09:33.06 | koen | that's a kernel patch |
09:33.15 | koen | mickeyl is the person who knows about that |
09:33.50 | AvengerMoJo | I see |
09:33.56 | AvengerMoJo | what is elpp stand for? |
09:34.18 | hrw|work | Enh Linux Progress Patch? |
09:34.35 | AvengerMoJo | Enh... ok |
09:34.42 | AvengerMoJo | thanks :P |
09:34.42 | RP | ehanced |
09:34.53 | RP | enhanced even |
09:35.31 | AvengerMoJo | hehe :) |
09:35.51 | AvengerMoJo | RP: you get the progress on the sound driver? |
09:36.08 | RP | AvengerMoJo: For which device? |
09:36.25 | AvengerMoJo | I keep thinking you are only working on the 2.6 for splitz |
09:36.35 | AvengerMoJo | hehe :) maybe I'm wrong hehe |
09:37.04 | AvengerMoJo | sorry didn't get much time to report the USB host driver issue either |
09:37.15 | RP | I work on corgi, shepherd, husky, akita, borzoi and sometimes spitz ;-) |
09:37.19 | AvengerMoJo | after sleep usb-host on splitz will die |
09:37.23 | AvengerMoJo | hehe :P |
09:37.33 | hrw|work | RP: forgot about boxer ;) |
09:37.51 | AvengerMoJo | RP: have you seen that issue? |
09:37.57 | AvengerMoJo | or just me ? |
09:38.00 | RP | hrw|work: true. It could be argued I also work on collie and poodle too :) |
09:38.10 | RP | AvengerMoJo: What kind of device did you have plugged in? |
09:38.17 | AvengerMoJo | C3000 |
09:38.29 | RP | AvengerMoJo: Into the usb host? |
09:38.37 | AvengerMoJo | oh no camera |
09:38.44 | hrw|work | RP: in other words - on all OE supported zauruses (and hx2750) |
09:39.20 | AvengerMoJo | also is there a way to just upgrading the Kernel? |
09:39.24 | RP | AvengerMoJo: I did try suspend/resume and had mixed results with usb storage. Its not top of my list of things to fix atm to be honest |
09:39.46 | RP | AvengerMoJo: Yes, just put the kernel and the updater.sh on the flash card - no initrd.bin/hdimage1.tgz |
09:39.59 | AvengerMoJo | RP: thanks |
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09:40.26 | AvengerMoJo | but if I need kernel drivers... then I can to copy to the host before hand right? |
09:40.36 | RP | AvengerMoJo: On the sound issue, I have ALSA working for the c7x0. This means cxx00 is close |
09:40.49 | AvengerMoJo | RP: wonderful |
09:40.52 | XorA | RP: you said some magic words :-D |
09:41.16 | RP | XorA: :) |
09:41.44 | RP | XorA: It has power usage problems at the moment but it does play audio and is lovely neat code... |
09:41.52 | XorA | RP: wicked |
09:41.55 | CIA-7 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r8f2796ff... 10/: |
09:41.55 | CIA-7 | opie-notes: added version 0.3 and CVS |
09:41.55 | CIA-7 | - this is OPIE application but will get own version numbers |
09:42.02 | XorA | RP: cant wait until you get it into OZ kernel |
09:42.11 | hrw|work | Tada! finally my own application in OE |
09:42.21 | koen | hrw|work: congrats |
09:42.23 | RP | hrw|work: congrats :) |
09:42.29 | AvengerMoJo | hehe :) hrw|work what is that |
09:42.55 | hrw|work | AvengerMoJo: its noteZ moved into OPIE Pim API |
09:43.06 | AvengerMoJo | cool |
09:43.15 | RP | XorA: Coming to the dev kernel very soon, once I tidy up some code... |
09:43.20 | katossi | morning all |
09:43.21 | hrw|work | will add it into 3.5.3 upgrades soon |
09:44.00 | AvengerMoJo | RP: so OE direction is not going to use bootsplash but the qpe-bootsplash? |
09:44.11 | hrw|work | AvengerMoJo: s/qpe/gpe |
09:44.21 | AvengerMoJo | ops |
09:44.25 | RP | AvengerMoJo: Its an image and distro choice |
09:44.28 | AvengerMoJo | hrw|work: thanks |
09:44.43 | AvengerMoJo | RP: right .. but elpp include the bootsplash patch already? |
09:45.04 | RP | elpp has nothing to do with gpe-bootsplash |
09:45.13 | hrw|work | AvengerMoJo: elpp is bootsplash in kernel |
09:45.33 | hrw|work | AvengerMoJo: gpe-bootsplash is bootsplash in userspace (and is better way of doing bootsplash imho) |
09:45.43 | AvengerMoJo | hrw|work: hum .. |
09:45.56 | koen | OE needs a bootsplash that a) does not require a kernelpatch b) supports animation c) doesn't require a ton of libs |
09:46.00 | AvengerMoJo | hrw|work: I will try that |
09:46.19 | RP | koen: usplash? :) |
09:46.29 | AvengerMoJo | usplash ... |
09:46.31 | koen | RP: needs directfb afaik |
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09:47.15 | koen | mickeyl and I looked at that and didn't like it |
09:47.32 | AvengerMoJo | RP: is directfb have splitz supported? |
09:49.28 | RP | koen: I think it uses bogl now |
09:50.49 | AvengerMoJo | hum |
09:51.20 | koen | ouch |
09:51.28 | koen | libbogl + bterm is 300k |
09:52.58 | RP | koen: I've not compiled it but the bogl source is built into usplash and the source doesn't look that big. One way to find out I guess... |
09:53.10 | koen | indeed |
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10:07.55 | Bernardo | hi guys |
10:08.06 | dunky | RP:when build the gpe-bootsplash have a few errors about dependency. |
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10:09.48 | dunky | RP:how to know their dependency one of all? |
10:10.59 | katossi | RP: morning |
10:12.19 | RP | dunky: bitbake should build the dependencies (unless you're using -b?) |
10:12.22 | RP | katossi: hi |
10:12.30 | katossi | is any dev reviewing reported bugs, besides the ones found by themselves? |
10:12.42 | katossi | if not, somebody should assume that role, I think |
10:12.44 | dunky | RP:yes ,I type bitbake -b.. |
10:13.21 | hrw|work | hi Bernardo |
10:13.39 | hrw|work | dunky: Do NOT use "-b" if you DON'T know what it is for |
10:13.41 | katossi | otherwise the feedback from users that report bugs is wasted |
10:13.57 | dunky | RP: if dont do that ,what shall I do about gpe-bootsplash |
10:14.38 | AvengerMoJo | dunky: just do bitbake gpe-bootsplash |
10:15.44 | dunky | AvergerMojo:so,just simply,thanks |
10:15.50 | RP | hi Bernardo - in answer to your question last night, I'm not sure there is much to do - I have someone with a C1000 doing some tests - I'll let you know if I need any more help, thanks |
10:16.49 | Bernardo | RP: ok, if you need extra tests I'll be here |
10:16.58 | Bernardo | hi hrw|work |
10:17.23 | Bernardo | RP: my main problem is that I can't get oe to build on my athlon64 (bug #33) |
10:17.28 | katossi | RP: you know I'm here for tests too (unfortunately with no serial lead) |
10:17.41 | RP | Bernardo: I'm actually at a loss as to why my mtd driver still doesn't work on akita :-( |
10:17.57 | RP | katossi: you have a c3000 though? |
10:18.14 | katossi | ups sorry, c1000 |
10:18.42 | RP | Bernardo: I'm no expert on 64 bit problems I'm afraid although it would be nice to get OE working around those issues... |
10:19.24 | zecke | re |
10:19.59 | Bernardo | it would really be nice, as it would let me contribute again... :) |
10:20.11 | zecke | Bernardo: tried linux32 bitbake? |
10:20.13 | Bernardo | back to class... |
10:20.25 | Bernardo | zecke: I have a pure 64 bits machine |
10:20.43 | Bernardo | I'll probably have to set a chrooted 32bits env |
10:21.36 | Bernardo|away | ah, I had it running 32bits a few months ago, on monotone days, and it built |
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10:26.08 | oho | Hello, could some one please give me a DNS server address which has already got the new info about oe.handhelds.org - thank you |
10:26.53 | zecke | ~resolve oe.handhelds.org |
10:27.26 | zecke | ~dns oe.handhelds.org |
10:28.37 | hrw|work | 25 12:28 handhelds.org has address 128.31.0.25 |
10:28.48 | Bernardo|away | that explains why can't I access oe.handhelds.org cvs... |
10:29.39 | oho | thank you, but when following links the dns still tries to resolve the address and fails |
10:30.12 | hrw|work | oho: echo 'oe.handhelds.org 128.31.0.25'>>/etc/hosts |
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10:32.56 | _law_ | hey |
10:33.44 | _law_ | hrw|work, have you seen my new script on bugzilla? |
10:34.04 | oho | hrw|work: thank you, but still no luck, my system seems to try the dns server first. I will keep on searching for a working DNS server |
10:34.09 | hrw|work | _law_: nope |
10:34.50 | hrw|work | zecke: stop using aleron.dl.sourceforge.net as SOURCEFORGE_MIRROR - OE switched to heanet as aleron lack too many files |
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10:35.39 | zecke | hrw|work: ;) did it |
10:36.02 | hrw|work | zecke: this will lower fetch errors number |
10:36.47 | hrw|work | zecke: and could you next time not wordwrap output of test |
10:36.48 | hrw|work | ? |
10:38.29 | zecke | hrw|work: sure that it was my mailer and not yours :( |
10:39.27 | hrw|work | zecke: your - when I look into source I see wrapped. KMail does not wordwrap messages on read in ~7x column |
10:41.35 | hrw|work | zecke: list reduced to 60 entries |
10:42.13 | zecke | I will try my best next time |
10:42.27 | zecke | actually I will 'post' a crappy HTML page |
10:44.04 | zecke | what is ewi's full name again? |
10:46.15 | hrw|work | alias mtpulle='mt pull ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl;mt merge;mt update' |
10:50.36 | zecke | hrw|work: thanks |
10:51.06 | hrw|work | np |
10:51.18 | RP | It was wrapped here as well |
10:53.52 | CIA-7 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r0d7e270c... 10/: asterisk: fixed SRC_URI |
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10:56.14 | zecke | hey reenoo |
10:56.18 | zecke | and *sorry* |
10:57.31 | reenoo | hey zecke |
10:57.50 | reenoo | no worries. I just haven't got around to responding yet |
10:58.03 | reenoo | pretty busy with work and university stuff right now |
10:58.21 | CIA-7 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r6c74e180... 10/: diethotplug: fixed SRC_URI |
11:00.36 | zecke | reenoo: same applies here, I totally agree that we should not upgrade to new versions (which I did in the past) |
11:00.53 | zecke | reenoo: I see no issue switching the SRC_URI if we can verify that we still build the same source |
11:01.45 | reenoo | zecke: sure. if the sources have just been moved around that's fine |
11:01.48 | hrw|work | I'm fixing SRC_URI for that pacakges where upstream moved files on server |
11:03.26 | zecke | reenoo: and I have finally implemented checking the MD5SUM in the fetcher (with one minor issue) |
11:03.49 | reenoo | zecke: ah. excellent |
11:06.12 | CIA-7 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r8cef5b08... 10/: directfb: fixed SRC_URI |
11:06.16 | CIA-7 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r6c88ebf1... 10/: dfb++: fixed SRC_URI |
11:06.20 | CIA-7 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r5bb12b69... 10/: dnsmasq: fixed SRC_URI for 2.11 version |
11:07.04 | koen | reenoo: it shouldn't be too hard for someone fluent in python to adapt ipkg-upload and upload.cgi for OE |
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11:08.38 | hrw|work | file 4.13 need update or mirroring.. upstream keep only 2 releases, debian stable has 4.12, unstable 4.15, current is 4.16 |
11:09.16 | koen | file could also up a seperate libmagic package |
11:09.25 | reenoo | hrw|work: how about archive.debian.org? |
11:10.14 | hrw|work | reenoo: not checked yet |
11:10.27 | zecke | hrw|work: archive.debian.org |
11:10.40 | hrw|work | reenoo: and debian switched from 4.12 to 4.15 directly |
11:11.18 | hrw|work | zecke: perl 5.8.7 is fetchable so 5.8.4 too (server is responding without problem) |
11:11.24 | hrw|work | NOTE: package perl-5.8.7-r14: task do_fetch: completed |
11:14.06 | zecke | hrw|work: good, maybe ewi is simply crap ;) |
11:15.05 | katossi | reenoo: hi, is there any problem with jamvm 1.3.3 and classpath 0.18 in oe? I mean any technical challenge |
11:15.10 | hrw|work | lftp is not on archive.debian.org at all |
11:17.11 | hrw|work | and is missing on snapshot.debian.net too (listed but 404) |
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11:18.22 | katossi | reenoo: or they're not there just because the are too new? |
11:19.28 | reenoo | lecture is starting. bbl |
11:19.48 | hrw|work | snapshot.debian.net had disk failures.. archives lacking |
11:22.14 | hrw|work | NOTE: package libpcl-1.4-r0: task do_fetch: completed |
11:27.26 | CIA-7 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rce0e128a... 10/: libxml: fixed SRC_URI for 2.6.7, 2.6.9 versions |
11:31.02 | hrw|work | zecke: http://home.hrw.one.pl/oe/fetch-errors.txt |
11:31.47 | CIA-7 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rfda8cbc2... 10/: cyrus-imapd: fixed SRC_URI for 2.2.5 version |
11:31.51 | CIA-7 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rd9127ccc... 10/: cyrus-sasl: fixed SRC_URI for 2.1.17, 2.1.18 versions |
11:32.17 | zecke | hrw|work: thanks |
11:33.16 | zecke | hrw|work: some how bittest fails when getting to the letter 'l' |
11:33.27 | zecke | hrw|work: I'm still investigating the cause of this |
11:33.37 | hrw|work | too many errors until that so it gave up ;) |
11:34.02 | zecke | I created it, so it never will give up :} |
11:34.11 | zecke | even if it would be smart to give up |
11:34.57 | hrw|work | ;) |
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11:50.06 | zecke | lol my mother used my ibook... |
11:50.41 | koen | my mother loves the zoom feature of the dock |
11:51.00 | koen | but she still doesn't get how the touchpad works |
11:58.58 | hrw|work | I like comment in kernel config about USB_NET_ZAURUS |
11:59.35 | hrw|work | If you install an alternate ROM image, such as the Linux 2.6 based versions of OpenZaurus, you should no longer need to support this protocol. Only the "eth-fd" or "net_fd" drivers in these devices really need this non-conformant variant of CDC Ethernet (or in some cases CDC MDLM) protocol, not "g_ether". |
12:00.05 | koen | ugh |
12:00.08 | koen | retards |
12:00.11 | koen | 'ROM' |
12:00.33 | hrw|work | koen: send a patch |
12:00.48 | hrw|work | and dont forget to use word 'moron' ;) |
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12:21.13 | koen | hrw|work: mail sent |
12:23.36 | marvin24 | koen: hotplug-linux only RPROVIDES hotplug |
12:23.51 | marvin24 | koen: I added PROVIDES = "hotplug" and now it works |
12:24.02 | marvin24 | nokia770-init is build |
12:24.23 | koen | I'm not sure if that's the correct solution, but I don't know a better one |
12:24.41 | koen | RP or florian_kc would be the 770 OE experts |
12:24.54 | marvin24 | what is the meaning of PROVIDES_${PN} ?? |
12:25.16 | koen | it sets the provides for the package |
12:25.53 | marvin24 | so what is the difference between provides and provides_${pn} ? |
12:26.15 | koen | just two different notations |
12:26.39 | marvin24 | i tried ..._${pn}, but this didn't work |
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12:32.00 | zecke | koen: do you get warned when ewi abuses too much bandwidth= |
12:33.00 | marvin24 | also why does linux-hotplug (rprovides,rconflicts and rreplaces) hotplug - all at the same time ? |
12:33.16 | hrw|work | I would not call it 'just'.. when recipe generate many packages then provides and provides_${pn} differ |
12:33.25 | koen | zecke: afaik there is no such thing as 'using too much bandwith' :) |
12:34.08 | zecke | koen: I guess we will find out soon |
12:34.51 | koen | zecke: use ftp.nl.debian.org as debian mirror |
12:35.17 | koen | that's ~80 meters away from EWI |
12:35.29 | koen | and internal traffic doesn't get counted |
12:36.03 | koen | student connection have a FUP of 250GB/week |
12:36.15 | koen | connections* |
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12:37.28 | zecke | koen: I already use that mirror (hopefully) |
12:38.04 | zecke | well only 11.5mb/s |
12:38.29 | koen | MB/s :) |
12:38.47 | koen | they didn't allow a gbit connection for ewi546 |
12:38.58 | koen | otherwise it would've been more :) |
12:39.08 | zecke | morons ;) |
12:39.54 | koen | http://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/linux/kernel/ is the kernel.org mirror |
12:40.02 | koen | same box as ftp.nl.debian.org |
12:40.16 | zecke | koen: that is a GNU mirror as well= |
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12:40.55 | koen | zecke: http://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/linux/handhelds.org/ :) |
12:46.40 | zecke | nice |
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13:09.16 | hrw|work | hi Cwiiis |
13:09.46 | Cwiiis | Hey hrw|work |
13:10.42 | hrw|work | Cwiiis: long time no see - how things? |
13:12.06 | Cwiiis | hrw|work: Pretty good, been very busy with uni and working at OH - How about you? |
13:12.26 | hrw|work | Cwiiis: quite good - wrote 1st application since years |
13:13.16 | Cwiiis | hrw|work: Cool :) What app? |
13:13.55 | hrw|work | opie-notes (basing on NoteZ) |
13:13.57 | hrw|work | hi kergoth |
13:15.27 | Cwiiis | hrw|work: Any screenshots about? |
13:15.51 | hrw|work | Cwiiis: have to check.. |
13:16.20 | hrw|work | hm. scap does not have any.. |
13:17.29 | hrw|work | argh... |
13:17.32 | hrw|work | ~lart scap on Z |
13:19.09 | hrw|work | Cwiiis: http://home.hrw.one.pl/shots/notes.png |
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13:30.05 | zecke | ~hail Trolltech |
13:30.08 | ibot | ACTION bows down to Trolltech and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
13:30.19 | zecke | another two hours wasted why key repeats are not working... |
13:30.31 | zecke | I guess Qtopia is a better selling product than M$ Word... |
13:30.50 | hrw|work | hail not curse? |
13:37.48 | zecke | hrw|work: it is at a point where it is funny and amusing |
13:38.24 | koen | zecke: keyrepeat is fluff |
13:39.40 | chouimat | morning |
13:39.43 | hrw|work | hi chouimat |
13:39.53 | zecke | koen: sure it is |
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14:07.05 | zecke | <PROTECTED> |
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14:19.41 | hrw|work | zecke: it has to be czech? |
14:21.06 | zecke | hrw|work: T-Mobile Czech starts a DVB-H trial |
14:21.15 | hrw|work | o... nice |
14:21.36 | hrw|work | and you have one of those 'not yet released' dvb-h devices? |
14:22.02 | zecke | <PROTECTED> |
14:22.20 | zecke | hrw|work: but that is from a research lab |
14:22.30 | zecke | and I have seen the Nokia ones |
14:23.05 | zecke | but in Czech Trial, Software I have written gets used, which makes me to some degree proud |
14:23.16 | hrw|work | ;) |
14:24.08 | hrw|work | zecke: not 1.25GHz? |
14:24.38 | hrw|work | dpkg 1.13.4 is not available... snapshot.debian.org give 403, archive.debian.org does not have it |
14:25.59 | zecke | hrw|work: I didn't knew they existed |
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14:26.15 | zecke | hrw|work: I would be happy with a dual, tripple, quad core SMP ARM |
14:26.39 | hrw|work | zecke: Intel had 1.25GHz on some show |
14:26.57 | koen | a portalplayer SoC or an OMAP is much nicer |
14:29.02 | zecke | koen: I agree on OMAP2 |
14:29.34 | koen | having a powerVR core integrated is pretty sweet |
14:30.51 | zecke | <PROTECTED> |
14:30.52 | koen | iirc you can get an omap2420 with a 330MHz dsp instead of the 220MHz one |
14:31.23 | zecke | it is funny to see TI releasing stuff they had canned in 2000 and 2001 |
14:33.24 | zecke | ~course TT for what they call multiplexer code |
14:33.29 | zecke | ~curse TT for what they call multiplexer code |
14:33.31 | ibot | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, TT for what they call multiplexer code ! |
14:34.53 | CIA-7 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r58b66421... 10/: dash: get debian patch from snapshot.debian.net |
14:34.59 | Twiun | talking of TT, it's interesting that they'll be making a full Qt4 java binding available |
14:35.37 | hrw|work | zecke: still no news about Qtopia4? |
14:36.01 | zecke | hrw|work: sadly none |
14:36.13 | AvengerMoJo | 1.25GHz? what is that |
14:36.36 | zecke | hrw|work: I believe Qtopia4 will be closed source |
14:36.49 | zecke | hrw|work: maybe one should embrace maemo.org |
14:36.51 | koen | because sourcecode is fluff |
14:37.29 | koen | maemo has a huge pile of close source too |
14:37.33 | koen | ~lart symbian |
14:37.47 | hrw|work | let someone move gumstix support into nonworking.... |
14:38.32 | zecke | koen: well we can replace these bits |
14:38.32 | CIA-7 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rdcbbbac5... 10/: enscript: switched SRC_URI to Debian mirrors |
14:39.55 | zecke | let us hope minix does not run on ARM next term... |
14:40.03 | hrw|work | zecke: updated fetch error list |
14:41.13 | zecke | hrw|work: still on http://home.hrw.one.pl/oe/fetch-errors.txt? |
14:41.14 | hrw|work | koen: gtk-industrial-engine older then 0.2.4x can be removed? |
14:41.17 | hrw|work | zecke: yes |
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14:42.37 | zecke | lol my mother uses my ibook again... |
14:42.39 | hrw|work | koen: even Debian 'sarge' have newer versions... :) |
14:42.56 | zecke | hrw|work: let me guess, debian sarge is fluff |
14:43.08 | zecke | anyway! |
14:43.22 | hrw|work | zecke: ofcourse that it is fluff |
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14:44.44 | koen | hrw|work: yes, industrial is in gtk-engines nowadays |
14:45.30 | hrw|work | koen: so could you remove non-needed ones? I dont know which one are they |
14:52.25 | zecke | koen: 266.53 B/s wow ewi is fast |
14:56.49 | oho | koen: could you please email me the config files you are using to build packages for the h2200, i.e. bitbake.conf and local.conf (can_man@gmx.de) thank you |
15:03.50 | hrw|work | zecke: check fetch errors |
15:04.00 | hrw|work | zecke: descriptions added |
15:04.23 | hrw|work | zecke: other things from list are fetchable |
15:04.40 | CIA-7 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r24ea45d9... 10/: libelf: fixed SRC_URI to new location |
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15:15.47 | oho | could some one please comment on the reply I got from my sys admin about the handhelds.org DNS server http://pastebin.ca/26612 |
15:18.51 | hrw|work | I could not |
15:20.58 | zecke | france: ping!? |
15:21.15 | zecke | france: is that http://pastebin.ca/26612 an issue? |
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15:34.15 | oris_wolfbane | hey guys, is ther a reason i cant get onto www.openembedded.org? |
15:34.24 | kergoth | i think i need to update the dns |
15:34.29 | kergoth | you should be able to get to oe.handhelds.org |
15:35.33 | oris_wolfbane | nope, "oe.handhelds.org could not be found. Please check the name and try again later" |
15:35.38 | kergoth | odd |
15:35.42 | oris_wolfbane | yup |
15:35.50 | oris_wolfbane | i can get onto handhelds.org |
15:35.58 | oris_wolfbane | and bugs.openembedded.org |
15:36.00 | kergoth | guess we'll have to pester the hh.o folks. the oe subdomain should be working afaik |
15:36.34 | oris_wolfbane | how do i go about pestering them? |
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15:38.18 | kergoth | france: ping |
15:40.28 | koen|food | mail to admin@hh.org |
15:45.56 | hrw|work | cu |
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16:07.53 | kergoth | wtf |
16:07.54 | kergoth | EXT2-fs: loop0: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features (4). |
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16:53.58 | kergoth | hmmm |
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17:35.20 | mreimer | I'm trying to get handhelds-pxa-2.6_cvs.bb to use a different defconfig for h2200, so I added do_configure_h2200() alongside do_configure(). But when I try to build, it begins with do_compile rather than do_fetch, do_unpack, etc. and of course it fails. What am I doing wrong? |
17:36.34 | koen | after a -c clean? |
17:36.45 | koen | you could try bitbake -b file.bb -c configure -f |
17:37.01 | mreimer | no, I hadn't tried build it yet. I did try rebuild, and removing any handhelds* stamps |
17:37.33 | mreimer | is -c the same as 'clean' in bitbake -i? |
17:38.13 | kergoth | -c tells it what command to run. |
17:38.20 | kergoth | rtfm |
17:38.22 | mreimer | if I comment out the do_configure_h2200() and 'reparse' it goes through the proper steps, but when I uncomment those lines it fails |
17:38.25 | mreimer | thanks kergoth |
17:39.32 | mreimer | no errors when I do '-c configure -f' |
17:39.53 | mreimer | but it still doesn't build |
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17:42.44 | koen | could you pastebin the .bb? |
17:44.27 | mreimer | http://pastebin.com/405492 |
17:45.19 | zecke | hi |
17:45.30 | koen | hey zecke |
17:47.08 | koen | mreimer: that look ok to me |
17:47.25 | mreimer | koen|tv: yeah, it seems simple enough |
17:48.01 | koen | it looks like the example in http://bitbake.berlios.de/manual/ch02.html#id2465968 |
17:49.05 | mreimer | do I need to specify OVERRIDES? |
17:49.40 | koen | $MACHINE should always be in overrides |
17:49.52 | mreimer | seems like a bug somewhere |
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19:09.28 | mithro | hey people |
19:09.30 | mithro | anyone alive? |
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19:10.00 | kergoth | braaaaains |
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19:10.12 | pb_ | afternoon kergoth |
19:11.13 | kergoth | hey |
19:38.59 | lucasvo | oe.openembedded.org has a corrupted dns entry... |
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19:42.17 | pb_ | "corrupted" in what way? |
19:42.34 | pb_ | oh, duh, he left |
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19:50.00 | hrw | hi |
19:50.14 | LoDown | hi hrw |
19:50.58 | hrw | someone have Zaurus with 2.6.14-rc4 and hostap wifi? |
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19:54.36 | DaniLoveSky | LoDown: never used irc befor, so did not know about this simple rules :) |
19:54.54 | LoDown | DaniLoveSky, i am a relative newbie too...its all good |
19:55.05 | LoDown | DaniLoveSky, anything I can help you with? |
19:56.20 | DaniLoveSky | LoDown: yes, please :) The first question (just pure curiosity) - why OE does not work if there re symlinks somewhere in the path above it? |
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19:56.36 | florian_kc | hi all |
19:56.57 | LoDown | DaniLoveSky, i was not aware of that problem...so I can't say why |
19:57.36 | LoDown | DaniLoveSky, my OE installation doesn't have any symlinks...so I never met that problem... |
19:57.43 | DaniLoveSky | LoDown: It took me a while to figure out that even my /tmp dir (where I put the compilation results) must be a proper directory, not a link to /var/tmp. |
19:58.01 | LoDown | :-) |
19:58.39 | hrw | use /tmp is weird.. |
19:58.57 | DaniLoveSky | LoDown: WiKi does not state it clearly - it says that the OE directory should satisfy this rule, but tmp dir - it is something different, right? |
19:59.00 | hrw | i use ~/devel/build/SUBDIR |
19:59.13 | hrw | tmpdir is part of OE |
19:59.41 | DaniLoveSky | hrw: I was forced to use /tmp as I only have 2Gb free space in my home directory where I put OE. |
20:00.06 | hrw | and so much in /tmp? nice config |
20:00.51 | DaniLoveSky | hrw: Yes, now I understand. After 3 tryes to install OE. Would be nice to highlite it in the wiki... |
20:01.21 | hrw | propose changes to GettingStarted on mailing list |
20:02.42 | DaniLoveSky | hrw: burning DVDs requires this tmp and also compiling differnt stuf, like kde and open office |
20:03.25 | hrw | if you say so.. |
20:03.45 | hrw | i used any dir as tmp for writing cd/dvd |
20:04.16 | hrw | but thats config of machine.. |
20:04.48 | DaniLoveSky | hrw: this is just a matter of habbits |
20:04.54 | hrw | exactly |
20:05.50 | DaniLoveSky | anyways, what is the reason (in simple words) for OE not to like sym links? |
20:06.44 | hrw | i dont remember |
20:07.52 | pb_ | it's a bug in autoconf |
20:07.56 | CIA-7 | 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * r83e8fa36... 10/: ixp4xx: (comments only) fix bad version number in comment for 2.0 |
20:08.05 | CosmicPenguin | I'm shocked, shocked! |
20:10.20 | DaniLoveSky | pb_: thanks. |
20:11.32 | kergoth | pb_: actually, autoconf may be borked, but oe really shouldnt be canonicalizing that path |
20:11.43 | kergoth | theres no reason we cant be using the path that has the symlinks |
20:12.35 | DaniLoveSky | Another question is about building familiar_gpe image using OE. The problem is that in order to compile kernel-2.4.* a gcc <=3.3.3 is required (correct me if I am wrong). |
20:14.02 | DaniLoveSky | OE tryes to compile gcc-3.3.3 using the compiler installed on the host. In my case it is gcc-4.0.1. And fails as gcc-4.0.* cannot complie <=gcc-3.5.* (is it right)? |
20:14.48 | pb_ | kergoth: iirc, it's autoconf (or rather, the generated configure script) that canonicalises it. I don't think oe is doing anything wrong. |
20:15.05 | hrw | cu |
20:15.11 | pb_ | if test "`cd $srcdir && pwd`" != "`pwd`" && |
20:15.16 | pb_ | that's the bit that goes wrong |
20:18.26 | DaniLoveSky | I pointed OE to gcc-3.2 insted (gcc32). OE successfully compiled gcc-3.3.3 and stuck on kernel compilation again, exactly the same point as when I used gcc-3.3.4 to compile the kernel. (build/tmp/work/orinoco-modules-0.15rc2-r9/orinoco-0.15rc2/spectrum_cs.c:588) |
20:19.49 | DaniLoveSky | I made mino corrections to the code of this module and it compiled fine. Now I wonder, would the gcc-3.3.4 compile the cernel with these corrections or it would have some major problems later on? |
20:19.50 | pb_ | That's not actually the kernel. |
20:20.00 | kergoth | pb_: ahh |
20:20.39 | CIA-7 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rf4799c65... 10/: (log message trimmed) |
20:20.40 | CIA-7 | linux-oz-2.6: Various updates to dev kernel: |
20:20.40 | CIA-7 | * Add various compile fixes passed to mainline |
20:20.40 | CIA-7 | * Update pm code to use pxa_pm_ops as discussed on LAKML |
20:20.40 | CIA-7 | * Add ALSA SoC subsystem patches from Liam Girdwood |
20:20.40 | CIA-7 | * Add ALSA wm8731 codec driver (as found in c7x0) |
20:20.42 | CIA-7 | * Update c7x0 defconfig to make OSS drivers modular and enable ALSA drivers (output only for now) |
20:21.07 | pb_ | kergoth: it's trying to figure out whether you are building outside the source directory. But, in the presence of a symlink, it (wrongly) decides that $(srcdir) is different from the pwd, and blows up. |
20:21.38 | pb_ | of course, oe could avoid that problem by always building in a directory outside $(srcdir), which might be good form anyway. |
20:22.29 | pb_ | DaniLoveSky: I have a feeling that orinoco 0.15 doesn't work anyway, even if you can compile it. But you should check with mickeyl; he is the orinocomeister. |
20:23.31 | CosmicPenguin | I'm almost positive the word orinocomeister needs some umlats in it |
20:24.12 | RP | pb_, DaniLoveSky : Orinoco 0.15 works but only with 2.6 kernels |
20:24.22 | RP | For 2.4 kernels use 0.13e |
20:25.03 | DaniLoveSky | pb_: Putting orinoco aside, do you think kernel would fail to compile with gcc-3.3.4? |
20:25.20 | pb_ | DaniLoveSky: I think it should be okay. |
20:25.34 | pb_ | and, if it has gotten as far as trying to build orinoco, I think it must already have succeeded in building the kernel. |
20:26.48 | DaniLoveSky | RP: do you know how well iPAQh5500 is supported by kernel 2.6? |
20:27.28 | RP | DaniLoveSky: No idea. try #handhelds.org or the handhelds.org website/wiki |
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20:28.19 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
20:28.26 | CosmicPenguin | RP: did you see Pavel's little patch on the LKML? :) |
20:28.48 | RP | CosmicPenguin: I was in the cc ;-) |
20:28.55 | RP | it amused me :) |
20:28.58 | CosmicPenguin | oh - I was reading on the gmane - they don't do ccs |
20:30.14 | DaniLoveSky | pb_: I will try to put the things back tomorrow and try to compile everything using gcc-4.0.1 and changing .bb files to make OE compile gcc-3.3.4 insted gcc-3.3.3 (which fails on systems with gcc-4.0.* , e.g. FC4). |
20:30.27 | pb_ | okay, sounds good |
20:31.32 | mreimer | does anyone have any ideas why adding a do_configure_h2200() method to a bb file (in this case handhelds-pxa-2.6_cvs.bb) would cause bitbake to not do the fetch, unpack, etc. stages and skip right to do_compile? |
20:32.04 | DaniLoveSky | pb_: For now the easiest solution for users of gcc-4.0 is to make a symlink: ln -s /usr/bin/gcc32 /path_ti_oe/bitbake/bin/gcc |
20:33.22 | DaniLoveSky | tpb_: this will force OE to use gcc-3.2 which works fine for compiling familiar v0.8.3 |
20:34.28 | DaniLoveSky | I wish all this info about kernel/gcc/oe compatability was in wiki. It would save me a couple of days :) |
20:36.02 | koen|tv | mreimer: you could try mailing the list |
20:36.10 | mreimer | thanks koen |
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21:04.52 | alan|home | good night all |
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23:07.32 | france | hi |
23:07.46 | france | uE said there is a problem with the web stie? Is it work now? |
23:16.42 | oris_wolfbane | france, yes |
23:17.19 | france | oris_wolfbane: thx, let me know if there are any other issues from the moving of the servers. |
23:17.20 | florian_kc | good night |
23:17.30 | france | florian_kc: your leaving...?? |
23:17.36 | france | florian_kc: nite! |
23:18.16 | florian_kc | france: yeah.. almost 1:18am here... |
23:18.27 | france | florian_kc: heh |
23:18.40 | france | florian_kc: I will catch you in your morning. I should still be on-line. |
23:19.33 | florian_kc | france: okay - thaks - worst case there is alwas email :-) cu |
23:24.51 | LoDown | anyone had orinoco .15rc2 fail to compile? |
23:25.08 | LoDown | why is gpe-image even trying to make this? |
23:26.24 | LoDown | and the room is quiet... :-D |
23:40.37 | DaniLoveSky | LoDown: I had. |
23:42.37 | DaniLoveSky | LoDown: I do not know why gpe-image target depends on orinoco (may be it is not necessary at all?) |
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