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02:14.09schmitothis has probably been asked a million times but can someone tell me where oe.handhelds.org went?
02:18.58schmitohello?
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02:43.47pikuanyone know if app level bugs should be reported in oe bug tracker?
02:43.54pikulike for instance, gaim has incorrect tabs
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06:12.12toedlerGood morning everyone! can any of you tell me the IP of cvs.handhelds.org ?
06:13.14francetoedler: are you running your own caching dns server?
06:13.42toedlerno, but i'm behind some caching servers
06:14.02franceyou should have them clear the cache
06:14.11toedlercan you tell me a nameserver that knows it ?
06:14.21france128.31.0.21
06:14.39toedlerthank you.
06:15.06francewelcome
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06:34.21Hrw|huskyhi
06:35.34Hrw|huskygetting wifi/wep connected here is a pita... 3 minutes to obtain lease from dhcp....
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07:11.14ggilbertmornin zecke
07:11.21zeckemoin
07:12.28ggilbertanything cool in opie?
07:13.32zeckeggilbert: OpenSync announcement and bluelightning working on a Opie Plugin
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07:13.45ggilbertcool
07:14.03alan|homemorning !
07:14.43zeckeggilbert: and hrw is doing plishing and a note application
07:14.56zeckeggilbert: and I'm quite busy with this term
07:15.06zeckeand I need to hurry torwads uni now
07:15.52alan|homee i don't understand how to pull the new oz/familiar branch. Anyone can give me the monotone command, please ?
07:16.00ggilbertHow's your health doing?
07:18.00alan|homeggilbert: is it me you are asking ? well, i'm fine... but i guess the question is for zecke ;)
07:18.45ggilbertWell I meant zecke
07:18.55ggilbertBut I'm glad you're well
07:19.00alan|homehehe
07:26.18pb_hi ggilbert
07:45.21hrw|workmorning
07:46.22hrw|workggilbert: monotone pull SERVER org.openembedded.oz354fam083
07:46.39ggilbertasssdw?
07:47.07alan|homemorning hrw|work
07:47.32hrw|workops.
07:47.35hrw|workalan|home: monotone pull SERVER org.openembedded.oz354fam083
07:48.56alan|homethanks hrw|work... i thought this was what i did...
07:56.43alan|homestrange... it is what i did, but it didn't work last time...
08:02.43XorAmorning
08:06.37hrw|workhi XorA
08:09.21RPmorning all
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08:40.52hrw|workhi koen
08:41.35koen_hey hrw|work
08:42.10hrw|workkoen: kick the baby ;)
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08:44.48CIA-703jbowler 07org.oe.dev * r361ee8eb... 10/:
08:44.48CIA-7samba: fix uclibc builds (struct timespec) in 3.0.20
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08:44.52CIA-703jbowler 07org.oe.dev * rcb5dc9f4... 10/:
08:44.53CIA-7ucslugc: reintroduce support for UCSLUGC_* names in parallel with NSLU2_* (all versions)
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08:44.59CIA-703jbowler 07org.oe.dev * rc1622bb4... 10/:
08:45.01CIA-7openslug: move to new configuration file organisation, use IAL 2.0, remove zImage (all versions)
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08:57.42hrw|workheh.. nano 1.2.5 need more work to get it in OE
08:58.13koenvim is better anyway :)
08:58.41hrw|workyes
08:58.53hrw|workI dont use nano - just saw that new verson is available
08:59.12hrw|workanyway will fix 1.2.1 src_uri and update 1.3.5 to 1.3.9
09:01.54hrw|workdone
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09:02.36CIA-703hrw 07org.oe.dev * r1b69a3e7... 10/: nano: upgraded development version to 1.3.9
09:02.40CIA-703hrw 07org.oe.dev * r16aa4270... 10/: nano: fixed SRC_URI for 1.2.1 release
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09:09.25dunkyhi,RP
09:10.37dunkyI am build one kernel ,does it support initrd ?(oz-3.5.4 | kernel 2.6.14)?
09:11.37RPdunky: The Zaurus kernels generally boot straight from the root partition
09:12.19dunkyRP: if I wanna a bootsplash ,what shall I do ? thank you
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09:13.30RPdunky: Enabling the elpp patch is probably easiest. For hints on how to do it look at the kernel .inc file
09:14.48RPdunky: Or add usplash to OE :)
09:15.36koenor use gpe-bootsplash
09:15.59dunkywhich one is easiest about what you said.?
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09:20.00dunkykoen:whether gpe-bootsplash same as bootsplash?
09:20.28koengpe-bootsplash takes a png or svg and displays that during boot
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09:20.50AvengerMoJokoen: does gpe-bootsplash depend on gpe ? or fb
09:20.52toedlerHi everyone! can you tell me where to find the script to generate a Packages.gz after building some packages?
09:21.12hrw|worktoedler: rebuild any image or use ipkg-make-index
09:21.15koenAvengerMoJo: only on libsvg and the framebuffer
09:21.23toedlerthank you.
09:21.31hrw|workkoen: libsvg and libpng rather?
09:21.38AvengerMoJokoen: hum
09:21.45koenhrw|work: yes :)
09:22.35hrw|work'cvs add -kb' should die
09:23.52hrw|workwe support using misc CVSDATE in SRC_URI?
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09:29.10hrw|workNOTE: package opie-notes-0.3-r0: task do_build: completed
09:32.45AvengerMoJokoen: what about elpp I couldn't get much info on that
09:33.06koenthat's a kernel patch
09:33.15koenmickeyl is the person who knows about that
09:33.50AvengerMoJoI see
09:33.56AvengerMoJowhat is elpp stand for?
09:34.18hrw|workEnh Linux Progress Patch?
09:34.35AvengerMoJoEnh... ok
09:34.42AvengerMoJothanks :P
09:34.42RPehanced
09:34.53RPenhanced even
09:35.31AvengerMoJohehe :)
09:35.51AvengerMoJoRP: you get the progress on the sound driver?
09:36.08RPAvengerMoJo: For which device?
09:36.25AvengerMoJoI keep thinking you are only working on the 2.6 for splitz
09:36.35AvengerMoJohehe :) maybe I'm wrong hehe
09:37.04AvengerMoJosorry didn't get much time to report the USB host driver issue either
09:37.15RPI work on corgi, shepherd, husky, akita, borzoi and sometimes spitz ;-)
09:37.19AvengerMoJoafter sleep usb-host on splitz will die
09:37.23AvengerMoJohehe :P
09:37.33hrw|workRP: forgot about boxer ;)
09:37.51AvengerMoJoRP: have you seen that issue?
09:37.57AvengerMoJoor just me ?
09:38.00RPhrw|work: true. It could be argued I also work on collie and poodle too :)
09:38.10RPAvengerMoJo: What kind of device did you have plugged in?
09:38.17AvengerMoJoC3000
09:38.29RPAvengerMoJo: Into the usb host?
09:38.37AvengerMoJooh no camera
09:38.44hrw|workRP: in other words - on all OE supported zauruses (and hx2750)
09:39.20AvengerMoJoalso is there a way to just upgrading the Kernel?
09:39.24RPAvengerMoJo: I did try suspend/resume and had mixed results with usb storage. Its not top of my list of things to fix atm to be honest
09:39.46RPAvengerMoJo: Yes, just put the kernel and the updater.sh on the flash card - no initrd.bin/hdimage1.tgz
09:39.59AvengerMoJoRP: thanks
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09:40.26AvengerMoJobut if I need kernel drivers... then I can to copy to the host before hand right?
09:40.36RPAvengerMoJo: On the sound issue, I have ALSA working for the c7x0. This means cxx00 is close
09:40.49AvengerMoJoRP: wonderful
09:40.52XorARP: you said some magic words :-D
09:41.16RPXorA: :)
09:41.44RPXorA: It has power usage problems at the moment but it does play audio and is lovely neat code...
09:41.52XorARP: wicked
09:41.55CIA-703hrw 07org.oe.dev * r8f2796ff... 10/:
09:41.55CIA-7opie-notes: added version 0.3 and CVS
09:41.55CIA-7- this is OPIE application but will get own version numbers
09:42.02XorARP: cant wait until you get it into OZ kernel
09:42.11hrw|workTada! finally my own application in OE
09:42.21koenhrw|work: congrats
09:42.23RPhrw|work: congrats :)
09:42.29AvengerMoJohehe :) hrw|work what is that
09:42.55hrw|workAvengerMoJo: its noteZ moved into OPIE Pim API
09:43.06AvengerMoJocool
09:43.15RPXorA: Coming to the dev kernel very soon, once I tidy up some code...
09:43.20katossimorning all
09:43.21hrw|workwill add it into 3.5.3 upgrades soon
09:44.00AvengerMoJoRP: so OE direction is not going to use bootsplash but the qpe-bootsplash?
09:44.11hrw|workAvengerMoJo: s/qpe/gpe
09:44.21AvengerMoJoops
09:44.25RPAvengerMoJo: Its an image and distro choice
09:44.28AvengerMoJohrw|work: thanks
09:44.43AvengerMoJoRP: right .. but elpp include the bootsplash patch already?
09:45.04RPelpp has nothing to do with gpe-bootsplash
09:45.13hrw|workAvengerMoJo: elpp is bootsplash in kernel
09:45.33hrw|workAvengerMoJo: gpe-bootsplash is bootsplash in userspace (and is better way of doing bootsplash imho)
09:45.43AvengerMoJohrw|work: hum ..
09:45.56koenOE needs a bootsplash that a) does not require a kernelpatch b) supports animation c) doesn't require a ton of libs
09:46.00AvengerMoJohrw|work: I will try that
09:46.19RPkoen: usplash? :)
09:46.29AvengerMoJousplash ...
09:46.31koenRP: needs directfb afaik
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09:47.15koenmickeyl and I looked at that and didn't like it
09:47.32AvengerMoJoRP: is directfb have splitz supported?
09:49.28RPkoen: I think it uses bogl now
09:50.49AvengerMoJohum
09:51.20koenouch
09:51.28koenlibbogl + bterm is 300k
09:52.58RPkoen: I've not compiled it but the bogl source is built into usplash and the source doesn't look that big. One way to find out I guess...
09:53.10koenindeed
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10:07.55Bernardohi guys
10:08.06dunkyRP:when build the gpe-bootsplash have a few errors about dependency.
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10:09.48dunkyRP:how to know their dependency one of all?
10:10.59katossiRP: morning
10:12.19RPdunky: bitbake should build the dependencies (unless you're using -b?)
10:12.22RPkatossi: hi
10:12.30katossiis any dev reviewing reported bugs, besides the ones found by themselves?
10:12.42katossiif not, somebody should assume that role, I think
10:12.44dunkyRP:yes ,I type bitbake -b..
10:13.21hrw|workhi Bernardo
10:13.39hrw|workdunky: Do NOT use "-b" if you DON'T know what it is for
10:13.41katossiotherwise the feedback from users that report bugs is wasted
10:13.57dunkyRP: if dont do that ,what shall I do about gpe-bootsplash
10:14.38AvengerMoJodunky: just do bitbake gpe-bootsplash
10:15.44dunkyAvergerMojo:so,just simply,thanks
10:15.50RPhi Bernardo  - in answer to your question last night, I'm not sure there is much to do - I have someone with a C1000 doing some tests - I'll let you know if I need any more help, thanks
10:16.49BernardoRP: ok, if you need extra tests I'll be here
10:16.58Bernardohi hrw|work
10:17.23BernardoRP: my main problem is that I can't get oe to build on my athlon64 (bug #33)
10:17.28katossiRP:  you know I'm here for tests too (unfortunately with no serial lead)
10:17.41RPBernardo: I'm actually at a loss as to why my mtd driver still doesn't work on akita :-(
10:17.57RPkatossi: you have a c3000 though?
10:18.14katossiups sorry, c1000
10:18.42RPBernardo: I'm no expert on 64 bit problems I'm afraid although it would be nice to get OE working around those issues...
10:19.24zeckere
10:19.59Bernardoit would really be nice, as it would let me contribute again... :)
10:20.11zeckeBernardo: tried linux32 bitbake?
10:20.13Bernardoback to class...
10:20.25Bernardozecke: I have a pure 64 bits machine
10:20.43BernardoI'll probably have to set a chrooted 32bits env
10:21.36Bernardo|awayah, I had it running 32bits a few months ago, on monotone days, and it built
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10:26.08ohoHello, could some one please give me a DNS server address which has already got the new info about oe.handhelds.org - thank you
10:26.53zecke~resolve oe.handhelds.org
10:27.26zecke~dns oe.handhelds.org
10:28.37hrw|work25 12:28 handhelds.org has address 128.31.0.25
10:28.48Bernardo|awaythat explains why can't I access oe.handhelds.org cvs...
10:29.39ohothank you, but when following links the dns still tries to resolve the address and fails
10:30.12hrw|workoho: echo 'oe.handhelds.org 128.31.0.25'>>/etc/hosts
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10:32.56_law_hey
10:33.44_law_hrw|work, have you seen my new script on bugzilla?
10:34.04ohohrw|work: thank you, but still no luck, my system seems to try the dns server first. I will keep on searching for a working DNS server
10:34.09hrw|work_law_: nope
10:34.50hrw|workzecke: stop using aleron.dl.sourceforge.net as SOURCEFORGE_MIRROR - OE switched to heanet as aleron lack too many files
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10:35.39zeckehrw|work: ;) did it
10:36.02hrw|workzecke: this will lower fetch errors number
10:36.47hrw|workzecke: and could you next time not wordwrap output of test
10:36.48hrw|work?
10:38.29zeckehrw|work: sure that it was my mailer and not yours :(
10:39.27hrw|workzecke: your - when I look into source I see wrapped. KMail does not wordwrap messages on read in ~7x column
10:41.35hrw|workzecke: list reduced to 60 entries
10:42.13zeckeI will try my best next time
10:42.27zeckeactually I will 'post' a crappy HTML page
10:44.04zeckewhat is ewi's full name again?
10:46.15hrw|workalias mtpulle='mt pull ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl;mt merge;mt update'
10:50.36zeckehrw|work: thanks
10:51.06hrw|worknp
10:51.18RPIt was wrapped here as well
10:53.52CIA-703hrw 07org.oe.dev * r0d7e270c... 10/: asterisk: fixed SRC_URI
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10:56.14zeckehey reenoo
10:56.18zeckeand *sorry*
10:57.31reenoohey zecke
10:57.50reenoono worries. I just haven't got around to responding yet
10:58.03reenoopretty busy with work and university stuff right now
10:58.21CIA-703hrw 07org.oe.dev * r6c74e180... 10/: diethotplug: fixed SRC_URI
11:00.36zeckereenoo: same applies here, I totally agree that we should not upgrade to new versions (which I did in the past)
11:00.53zeckereenoo: I see no issue switching the SRC_URI if we can verify that we still build the same source
11:01.45reenoozecke: sure. if the sources have just been moved around that's fine
11:01.48hrw|workI'm fixing SRC_URI for that pacakges where upstream moved files on server
11:03.26zeckereenoo: and I have finally implemented checking the MD5SUM in the fetcher (with one minor issue)
11:03.49reenoozecke: ah. excellent
11:06.12CIA-703hrw 07org.oe.dev * r8cef5b08... 10/: directfb: fixed SRC_URI
11:06.16CIA-703hrw 07org.oe.dev * r6c88ebf1... 10/: dfb++: fixed SRC_URI
11:06.20CIA-703hrw 07org.oe.dev * r5bb12b69... 10/: dnsmasq: fixed SRC_URI for 2.11 version
11:07.04koenreenoo: it shouldn't be too hard for someone fluent in python to adapt ipkg-upload and upload.cgi for OE
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11:08.38hrw|workfile 4.13 need update or mirroring.. upstream keep only 2 releases, debian stable has 4.12, unstable 4.15, current is 4.16
11:09.16koenfile could also up a seperate libmagic package
11:09.25reenoohrw|work: how about archive.debian.org?
11:10.14hrw|workreenoo: not checked yet
11:10.27zeckehrw|work: archive.debian.org
11:10.40hrw|workreenoo: and debian switched from 4.12 to 4.15 directly
11:11.18hrw|workzecke: perl 5.8.7 is fetchable so 5.8.4 too (server is responding without problem)
11:11.24hrw|workNOTE: package perl-5.8.7-r14: task do_fetch: completed
11:14.06zeckehrw|work: good, maybe ewi is simply crap ;)
11:15.05katossireenoo: hi, is there any problem with jamvm 1.3.3 and classpath 0.18 in oe? I mean any technical challenge
11:15.10hrw|worklftp is not on archive.debian.org at all
11:17.11hrw|workand is missing on snapshot.debian.net too (listed but 404)
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11:18.22katossireenoo: or they're not there just because the are too new?
11:19.28reenoolecture is starting. bbl
11:19.48hrw|worksnapshot.debian.net had disk failures.. archives lacking
11:22.14hrw|workNOTE: package libpcl-1.4-r0: task do_fetch: completed
11:27.26CIA-703hrw 07org.oe.dev * rce0e128a... 10/: libxml: fixed SRC_URI for 2.6.7, 2.6.9 versions
11:31.02hrw|workzecke: http://home.hrw.one.pl/oe/fetch-errors.txt
11:31.47CIA-703hrw 07org.oe.dev * rfda8cbc2... 10/: cyrus-imapd: fixed SRC_URI for 2.2.5 version
11:31.51CIA-703hrw 07org.oe.dev * rd9127ccc... 10/: cyrus-sasl: fixed SRC_URI for 2.1.17, 2.1.18 versions
11:32.17zeckehrw|work: thanks
11:33.16zeckehrw|work: some how bittest fails when getting to the letter  'l'
11:33.27zeckehrw|work: I'm still investigating the cause of this
11:33.37hrw|worktoo many errors until that so it gave up ;)
11:34.02zeckeI created it, so it never will give up :}
11:34.11zeckeeven if it would be smart to give up
11:34.57hrw|work;)
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11:50.06zeckelol my mother used my ibook...
11:50.41koenmy mother loves the zoom feature of the dock
11:51.00koenbut she still doesn't get how the touchpad works
11:58.58hrw|workI like comment in kernel config about USB_NET_ZAURUS
11:59.35hrw|workIf you install an alternate ROM image, such as the Linux 2.6 based versions of OpenZaurus, you should no longer need to support this protocol.  Only the "eth-fd" or "net_fd" drivers in these devices really need this non-conformant variant of CDC Ethernet (or in some cases CDC MDLM) protocol, not "g_ether".
12:00.05koenugh
12:00.08koenretards
12:00.11koen'ROM'
12:00.33hrw|workkoen: send a patch
12:00.48hrw|workand dont forget to use word 'moron' ;)
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12:21.13koenhrw|work: mail sent
12:23.36marvin24koen: hotplug-linux only RPROVIDES hotplug
12:23.51marvin24koen: I added PROVIDES = "hotplug" and now it works
12:24.02marvin24nokia770-init is build
12:24.23koenI'm not sure if that's the correct solution, but I don't know a better one
12:24.41koenRP or florian_kc would be the 770 OE experts
12:24.54marvin24what is the meaning of PROVIDES_${PN} ??
12:25.16koenit sets the provides for the package
12:25.53marvin24so what is the difference between provides and provides_${pn} ?
12:26.15koenjust two different notations
12:26.39marvin24i tried ..._${pn}, but this didn't work
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12:32.00zeckekoen: do you get warned when ewi abuses too much bandwidth=
12:33.00marvin24also why does linux-hotplug (rprovides,rconflicts and rreplaces) hotplug - all at the same time ?
12:33.16hrw|workI would not call it 'just'.. when recipe generate many packages then provides and provides_${pn} differ
12:33.25koenzecke: afaik there is no such thing as 'using too much bandwith' :)
12:34.08zeckekoen: I guess we will find out soon
12:34.51koenzecke: use ftp.nl.debian.org as debian mirror
12:35.17koenthat's ~80 meters away from EWI
12:35.29koenand internal traffic doesn't get counted
12:36.03koenstudent connection have a FUP of 250GB/week
12:36.15koenconnections*
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12:37.28zeckekoen: I already use that mirror (hopefully)
12:38.04zeckewell only 11.5mb/s
12:38.29koenMB/s :)
12:38.47koenthey didn't allow a gbit connection for ewi546
12:38.58koenotherwise it would've been more :)
12:39.08zeckemorons ;)
12:39.54koenhttp://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/linux/kernel/ is the kernel.org mirror
12:40.02koensame box as ftp.nl.debian.org
12:40.16zeckekoen: that is a GNU mirror as well=
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12:40.55koenzecke: http://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/linux/handhelds.org/ :)
12:46.40zeckenice
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13:09.16hrw|workhi Cwiiis
13:09.46CwiiisHey hrw|work
13:10.42hrw|workCwiiis: long time no see - how things?
13:12.06Cwiiishrw|work: Pretty good, been very busy with uni and working at OH - How about you?
13:12.26hrw|workCwiiis: quite good - wrote 1st application since years
13:13.16Cwiiishrw|work: Cool :) What app?
13:13.55hrw|workopie-notes (basing on NoteZ)
13:13.57hrw|workhi kergoth
13:15.27Cwiiishrw|work: Any screenshots about?
13:15.51hrw|workCwiiis: have to check..
13:16.20hrw|workhm. scap does not have any..
13:17.29hrw|workargh...
13:17.32hrw|work~lart scap on Z
13:19.09hrw|workCwiiis: http://home.hrw.one.pl/shots/notes.png
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13:30.05zecke~hail Trolltech
13:30.08ibotACTION bows down to Trolltech and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!"
13:30.19zeckeanother two hours wasted why key repeats are not working...
13:30.31zeckeI guess Qtopia is a better selling product than M$ Word...
13:30.50hrw|workhail not curse?
13:37.48zeckehrw|work: it is at a point where it is funny and amusing
13:38.24koenzecke: keyrepeat is fluff
13:39.40chouimatmorning
13:39.43hrw|workhi chouimat
13:39.53zeckekoen: sure it is
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14:19.41hrw|workzecke: it has to be czech?
14:21.06zeckehrw|work: T-Mobile Czech starts a DVB-H trial
14:21.15hrw|worko... nice
14:21.36hrw|workand you have one of those 'not yet released' dvb-h devices?
14:22.02zecke<PROTECTED>
14:22.20zeckehrw|work: but that is from a research lab
14:22.30zeckeand I have seen the Nokia ones
14:23.05zeckebut in Czech Trial, Software I have written gets used, which makes me to some degree proud
14:23.16hrw|work;)
14:24.08hrw|workzecke: not 1.25GHz?
14:24.38hrw|workdpkg 1.13.4 is not available... snapshot.debian.org give 403, archive.debian.org does not have it
14:25.59zeckehrw|work: I didn't knew they existed
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14:26.15zeckehrw|work: I would be happy with a dual, tripple, quad core SMP ARM
14:26.39hrw|workzecke: Intel had 1.25GHz on some show
14:26.57koena portalplayer SoC or an OMAP is much nicer
14:29.02zeckekoen: I agree on OMAP2
14:29.34koenhaving a powerVR core integrated is pretty sweet
14:30.51zecke<PROTECTED>
14:30.52koeniirc you can get an omap2420 with a 330MHz dsp instead of the 220MHz one
14:31.23zeckeit is funny to see TI releasing stuff they had canned in 2000 and 2001
14:33.24zecke~course TT for what they call multiplexer code
14:33.29zecke~curse TT for what they call multiplexer code
14:33.31ibotMay the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, TT for what they call multiplexer code !
14:34.53CIA-703hrw 07org.oe.dev * r58b66421... 10/: dash: get debian patch from snapshot.debian.net
14:34.59Twiuntalking of TT, it's interesting that they'll be making a full Qt4 java binding available
14:35.37hrw|workzecke: still no news about Qtopia4?
14:36.01zeckehrw|work: sadly none
14:36.13AvengerMoJo1.25GHz? what is that
14:36.36zeckehrw|work: I believe Qtopia4 will be closed source
14:36.49zeckehrw|work: maybe one should embrace maemo.org
14:36.51koenbecause sourcecode is fluff
14:37.29koenmaemo has a huge pile of close source too
14:37.33koen~lart symbian
14:37.47hrw|worklet someone move gumstix support into nonworking....
14:38.32zeckekoen: well we can replace these bits
14:38.32CIA-703hrw 07org.oe.dev * rdcbbbac5... 10/: enscript: switched SRC_URI to Debian mirrors
14:39.55zeckelet us hope minix does not run on ARM next term...
14:40.03hrw|workzecke: updated fetch error list
14:41.13zeckehrw|work: still on http://home.hrw.one.pl/oe/fetch-errors.txt?
14:41.14hrw|workkoen: gtk-industrial-engine older then 0.2.4x can be removed?
14:41.17hrw|workzecke: yes
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14:42.37zeckelol my mother uses my ibook again...
14:42.39hrw|workkoen: even Debian 'sarge' have newer versions... :)
14:42.56zeckehrw|work: let me guess, debian sarge is fluff
14:43.08zeckeanyway!
14:43.22hrw|workzecke: ofcourse that it is fluff
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14:44.44koenhrw|work: yes, industrial is in gtk-engines nowadays
14:45.30hrw|workkoen: so could you remove non-needed ones? I dont know which one are they
14:52.25zeckekoen: 266.53 B/s wow ewi is fast
14:56.49ohokoen: could you please email me the config files you are using to build packages for the h2200, i.e. bitbake.conf and local.conf    (can_man@gmx.de)  thank you
15:03.50hrw|workzecke: check fetch errors
15:04.00hrw|workzecke: descriptions added
15:04.23hrw|workzecke: other things from list are fetchable
15:04.40CIA-703hrw 07org.oe.dev * r24ea45d9... 10/: libelf: fixed SRC_URI to new location
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15:15.47ohocould some one please comment on the reply I got from my sys admin about the handhelds.org DNS server http://pastebin.ca/26612
15:18.51hrw|workI could not
15:20.58zeckefrance: ping!?
15:21.15zeckefrance: is that http://pastebin.ca/26612 an issue?
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15:34.15oris_wolfbanehey guys, is ther a reason i cant get onto www.openembedded.org?
15:34.24kergothi think i need to update the dns
15:34.29kergothyou should be able to get to oe.handhelds.org
15:35.33oris_wolfbanenope, "oe.handhelds.org could not be found. Please check the name and try again later"
15:35.38kergothodd
15:35.42oris_wolfbaneyup
15:35.50oris_wolfbanei can get onto handhelds.org
15:35.58oris_wolfbaneand bugs.openembedded.org
15:36.00kergothguess we'll have to pester the hh.o folks.  the oe subdomain should be working afaik
15:36.34oris_wolfbanehow do i go about pestering them?
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15:38.18kergothfrance: ping
15:40.28koen|foodmail to admin@hh.org
15:45.56hrw|workcu
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17:35.20mreimerI'm trying to get handhelds-pxa-2.6_cvs.bb to use a different defconfig for h2200, so I added do_configure_h2200() alongside do_configure(). But when I try to build, it begins with do_compile rather than do_fetch, do_unpack, etc. and of course it fails. What am I doing wrong?
17:36.34koenafter a -c clean?
17:36.45koenyou could try bitbake -b file.bb -c configure -f
17:37.01mreimerno, I hadn't tried build it yet. I did try rebuild, and removing any handhelds* stamps
17:37.33mreimeris -c the same as 'clean' in bitbake -i?
17:38.13kergoth-c tells it what command to run.
17:38.20kergothrtfm
17:38.22mreimerif I comment out the do_configure_h2200() and 'reparse' it goes through the proper steps, but when I uncomment those lines it fails
17:38.25mreimerthanks kergoth
17:39.32mreimerno errors when I do '-c configure -f'
17:39.53mreimerbut it still doesn't build
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17:42.44koencould you pastebin the .bb?
17:44.27mreimerhttp://pastebin.com/405492
17:45.19zeckehi
17:45.30koenhey zecke
17:47.08koenmreimer: that look ok to me
17:47.25mreimerkoen|tv: yeah, it seems simple enough
17:48.01koenit looks like the example in http://bitbake.berlios.de/manual/ch02.html#id2465968
17:49.05mreimerdo I need to specify OVERRIDES?
17:49.40koen$MACHINE should always be in overrides
17:49.52mreimerseems like a bug somewhere
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19:09.28mithrohey people
19:09.30mithroanyone alive?
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19:10.00kergothbraaaaains
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19:10.12pb_afternoon kergoth
19:11.13kergothhey
19:38.59lucasvooe.openembedded.org has a corrupted dns entry...
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19:42.17pb_"corrupted" in what way?
19:42.34pb_oh, duh, he left
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19:50.00hrwhi
19:50.14LoDownhi hrw
19:50.58hrwsomeone have Zaurus with 2.6.14-rc4 and hostap wifi?
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19:54.36DaniLoveSkyLoDown: never used irc befor, so did not know about this simple rules :)
19:54.54LoDownDaniLoveSky, i am a relative newbie too...its all good
19:55.05LoDownDaniLoveSky, anything I can help you with?
19:56.20DaniLoveSkyLoDown: yes, please :) The first question (just pure curiosity) - why OE does not work if there re symlinks somewhere in the path above it?
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19:56.36florian_kchi all
19:56.57LoDownDaniLoveSky, i was not aware of that problem...so I can't say why
19:57.36LoDownDaniLoveSky, my OE installation doesn't have any symlinks...so I never met that problem...
19:57.43DaniLoveSkyLoDown: It took me a while to figure out that even my /tmp dir (where I put the compilation results) must be a proper directory, not a link to /var/tmp.
19:58.01LoDown:-)
19:58.39hrwuse /tmp is weird..
19:58.57DaniLoveSkyLoDown: WiKi does not state it clearly - it says that the OE directory should satisfy this rule, but tmp dir - it is something different, right?
19:59.00hrwi use ~/devel/build/SUBDIR
19:59.13hrwtmpdir is part of OE
19:59.41DaniLoveSkyhrw: I was forced to use /tmp as I only have 2Gb free space in my home directory where I put OE.
20:00.06hrwand so much in /tmp? nice config
20:00.51DaniLoveSkyhrw: Yes, now I understand. After 3 tryes to install OE. Would be nice to highlite it in the wiki...
20:01.21hrwpropose changes to GettingStarted on mailing list
20:02.42DaniLoveSkyhrw: burning DVDs requires this tmp and also compiling differnt stuf, like kde and open office
20:03.25hrwif you say so..
20:03.45hrwi used any dir as tmp for writing cd/dvd
20:04.16hrwbut thats config of machine..
20:04.48DaniLoveSkyhrw: this is just a matter of habbits
20:04.54hrwexactly
20:05.50DaniLoveSkyanyways, what is the reason (in simple words) for OE not to like sym links?
20:06.44hrwi dont remember
20:07.52pb_it's a bug in autoconf
20:07.56CIA-703jbowler 07org.oe.dev * r83e8fa36... 10/: ixp4xx: (comments only) fix bad version number in comment for 2.0
20:08.05CosmicPenguinI'm shocked, shocked!
20:10.20DaniLoveSkypb_: thanks.
20:11.32kergothpb_: actually, autoconf may be borked, but oe really shouldnt be canonicalizing that path
20:11.43kergoththeres no reason we cant be using the path that has the symlinks
20:12.35DaniLoveSkyAnother question is about building familiar_gpe image using OE. The problem is that in order to compile kernel-2.4.* a gcc <=3.3.3 is required (correct me if I am wrong).
20:14.02DaniLoveSkyOE tryes to compile gcc-3.3.3 using the compiler installed on the host. In my case it is gcc-4.0.1. And fails as gcc-4.0.* cannot complie <=gcc-3.5.* (is it right)?
20:14.48pb_kergoth: iirc, it's autoconf (or rather, the generated configure script) that canonicalises it.  I don't think oe is doing anything wrong.
20:15.05hrwcu
20:15.11pb_if test "`cd $srcdir && pwd`" != "`pwd`" &&
20:15.16pb_that's the bit that goes wrong
20:18.26DaniLoveSkyI pointed OE to gcc-3.2 insted (gcc32). OE successfully compiled gcc-3.3.3 and stuck on kernel compilation again, exactly the same point as when I used gcc-3.3.4 to compile the kernel. (build/tmp/work/orinoco-modules-0.15rc2-r9/orinoco-0.15rc2/spectrum_cs.c:588)
20:19.49DaniLoveSkyI made mino corrections to the code of this module and it compiled fine. Now I wonder, would the gcc-3.3.4 compile the cernel with these corrections or it would have some major problems later on?
20:19.50pb_That's not actually the kernel.
20:20.00kergothpb_: ahh
20:20.39CIA-703rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rf4799c65... 10/: (log message trimmed)
20:20.40CIA-7linux-oz-2.6: Various updates to dev kernel:
20:20.40CIA-7* Add various compile fixes passed to mainline
20:20.40CIA-7* Update pm code to use pxa_pm_ops as discussed on LAKML
20:20.40CIA-7* Add ALSA SoC subsystem patches from Liam Girdwood
20:20.40CIA-7* Add ALSA wm8731 codec driver (as found in c7x0)
20:20.42CIA-7* Update c7x0 defconfig to make OSS drivers modular and enable ALSA drivers (output only for now)
20:21.07pb_kergoth: it's trying to figure out whether you are building outside the source directory.  But, in the presence of a symlink, it (wrongly) decides that $(srcdir) is different from the pwd, and blows up.
20:21.38pb_of course, oe could avoid that problem by always building in a directory outside $(srcdir), which might be good form anyway.
20:22.29pb_DaniLoveSky: I have a feeling that orinoco 0.15 doesn't work anyway, even if you can compile it.  But you should check with mickeyl; he is the orinocomeister.
20:23.31CosmicPenguinI'm almost positive the word orinocomeister needs some umlats in it
20:24.12RPpb_, DaniLoveSky : Orinoco 0.15 works but only with 2.6 kernels
20:24.22RPFor 2.4 kernels use 0.13e
20:25.03DaniLoveSkypb_: Putting orinoco aside, do you think kernel would fail to compile with gcc-3.3.4?
20:25.20pb_DaniLoveSky: I think it should be okay.
20:25.34pb_and, if it has gotten as far as trying to build orinoco, I think it must already have succeeded in building the kernel.
20:26.48DaniLoveSkyRP: do you know how well iPAQh5500 is supported by kernel 2.6?
20:27.28RPDaniLoveSky: No idea. try #handhelds.org or the handhelds.org website/wiki
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20:28.19CosmicPenguinheh
20:28.26CosmicPenguinRP: did you see Pavel's little patch on the LKML? :)
20:28.48RPCosmicPenguin: I was in the cc ;-)
20:28.55RPit amused me :)
20:28.58CosmicPenguinoh - I was reading on the gmane - they don't do ccs
20:30.14DaniLoveSkypb_: I will try to put the things back tomorrow and try to compile everything using gcc-4.0.1 and changing .bb files to make OE compile gcc-3.3.4 insted gcc-3.3.3 (which fails on systems with gcc-4.0.* , e.g. FC4).
20:30.27pb_okay, sounds good
20:31.32mreimerdoes anyone have any ideas why adding a do_configure_h2200() method to a bb file (in this case handhelds-pxa-2.6_cvs.bb) would cause bitbake to not do the fetch, unpack, etc. stages and skip right to do_compile?
20:32.04DaniLoveSkypb_: For now the easiest solution for users of gcc-4.0 is to make a symlink: ln -s /usr/bin/gcc32 /path_ti_oe/bitbake/bin/gcc
20:33.22DaniLoveSkytpb_: this will force OE to use gcc-3.2 which works fine for compiling familiar v0.8.3
20:34.28DaniLoveSkyI wish all this info about kernel/gcc/oe compatability was in wiki. It would save me a couple of days :)
20:36.02koen|tvmreimer: you could try mailing the list
20:36.10mreimerthanks koen
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21:04.52alan|homegood night all
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23:07.32francehi
23:07.46franceuE said there is a problem with the web stie? Is it work now?
23:16.42oris_wolfbanefrance, yes
23:17.19franceoris_wolfbane: thx, let me know if there are any other issues from the moving of the servers.
23:17.20florian_kcgood night
23:17.30franceflorian_kc: your leaving...??
23:17.36franceflorian_kc: nite!
23:18.16florian_kcfrance: yeah.. almost 1:18am here...
23:18.27franceflorian_kc: heh
23:18.40franceflorian_kc: I will catch you in your morning.  I should still be on-line.
23:19.33florian_kcfrance: okay - thaks - worst case there is alwas email :-) cu
23:24.51LoDownanyone had orinoco .15rc2 fail to compile?
23:25.08LoDownwhy is gpe-image even trying to make this?
23:26.24LoDownand the room is quiet... :-D
23:40.37DaniLoveSkyLoDown: I had.
23:42.37DaniLoveSkyLoDown: I do not know why gpe-image target depends on orinoco (may be it is not necessary at all?)
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