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03:30.01TyggerBobHeya koen
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08:02.43joshua_Hmm -- can someone build me a brctl for arm?
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08:42.14hrw|workmorning
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08:53.43diesertmorning hrw
08:53.58diesertjoshua:what is the brctl?
08:56.50hrw|workbridge control util
08:57.05Pendalarhrw, what I wanted the other day
08:57.12PendalarI saw the mirror notice at @oz.org
08:57.28dieserthrw:thanks
08:57.30Pendalarif it helps, remember there's the mirror at oz.pdai.org for the feeds
08:58.30hrw|workPendalar: I know - we have it listed somewhere on site.. hmm.. maybe we should list mirrors in one place to have them visible...
08:58.52Pendalaryep, it's pretty much forgotten now
08:59.05Pendalarwas using 20G bandwidth a month at one point
09:00.55hrw|workwhat do you think about putting mirrors list under 'downloads'?
09:01.36RPmorning all
09:01.49Pendalarfor ours, being a feed mirror.. that would make sense
09:02.05Pendalaror more sense to have it in the ipkg config as an alt
09:02.22Pendalarfor a web mirror, dunno.. maybe just a "choose your location link at the top"
09:02.54Pendalarwe were going to do a total mirror, but I wasn't given sql clearance
09:03.20Pendalarand overall certain people were against a web mirror at the time
09:03.28XorAmorning RP
09:03.50hrw|workPendalar: which country your mirror is located?
09:05.00PendalarTX, USA iirc
09:05.05hrw|workok
09:06.51hrw|workguys: have a look at openzaurus.org and tell does 'Downloads' section on left looks ok
09:07.58hrw|workPendalar: can you sync 3.5.3/upgrades/ and 3.5.4-rc/ dirs?
09:08.15Pendalarit should do it automatically.. I haven't gotten any error emails
09:09.55PendalarThu Nov 24 06:00:01 CST 2005
09:09.55PendalarThu Nov 24 12:00:01 CST 2005
09:09.55PendalarThu Nov 24 18:00:01 CST 2005
09:09.55PendalarFri Nov 25 00:00:02 CST 2005
09:09.59Pendalarweird.. no errors in the log
09:10.57XorAhrw|work: looks fine to mke
09:11.07hrw|workso I will leave it as it is for now
09:11.21PendalarI have a slight problem with it, but let me fix the sync first
09:12.04hrw|workok
09:12.07Pendalarhmm someone's tweaked my unison source
09:12.14Pendalarsf.net didn't like it
09:13.07hrw|workPendalar: we dont have feeds on sf.net...
09:13.13hrw|workops.
09:13.23hrw|workwhole feeds content moved to ewi
09:13.39Pendalarnice of you guys to shoot me an email =-s
09:13.57Pendalarit syncs with sf.net every 6 hours
09:14.02hrw|workfsck.. forgot
09:14.11PendalarI'll need some info then
09:14.17RPPendalar: It was mentioned on the OZ lists
09:14.36Pendalarwhich I do not receive
09:14.41RPall rather hurried though :-/
09:14.45PendalarI no longer use a zaurus as mine broke
09:14.54RPAh :-(
09:14.55Pendalarhowever I still support the community in the limited ways I can
09:15.09RPthanks :)
09:15.20Pendalarso hrw|work .. I'm going to need some ssh love.. and some path info
09:16.20Pendalarand my home will need to be able to have read access of the oz home area
09:16.36Pendalaror I'll need an oz login like I had with sf.net
09:16.45Pendalarwhichever makes people sleep better at night
09:24.38hrw|workPendalar: currently we have to wait for mickeyl return. then oz 3.5.4 release talk, getting access for uploading feeds etc..
09:26.08Pendalarok
09:26.20Pendalarthe way I do it is via unison over ssh
09:26.40Pendalarso I'd need unison on the server, matching the version I have (although I can update mine)
09:27.06Pendalarand sufficent access to compare the repository to the mirror's and syncing one way
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09:34.00hrw|workPendalar: I'm writing about mirrors situation to oz-devel
09:34.23Pendalaranything I need to know?
09:36.34hrw|workare you subscribed to openzaurus-devel@lists.sourceforge.net?
09:36.42hrw|workif not then give me email
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10:54.25ade|deskhi folks
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11:23.07hrw|workhi lardman|work
11:23.34lardman|workhey hrw|work, how's things?
11:24.18hrw|workquite good
11:24.36hrw|worklardman|work: we need to look more into 'oz 3.5.4-rc bugfixes' thread and work on it
11:24.58lardman|workhrw|work: yes, I'm a bit busy for the next 2 weeks or so though
11:25.29hrw|workI also dont know will work on it but will try
11:25.55hrw|work~lart gtk2 for shitty filerequester
11:26.01lardman|workA lot of the stuff on there was to do with the cxxxx machines iirc
11:26.17lardman|workWhich is something I can't help with anyway
11:26.29lardman|workOther than brainstorming
11:27.42hrw|workme too
11:28.07lardman|workIs the suspend problem on the c3k to do with the apm fix which isn't needed anymore?
11:28.21lardman|workI guess that's fixed now in OE?
11:29.16lardman|workWhere's koen when you want to talk to him ;) - I think gpe-splash screen should either be removed, or have some info added to it so it looks like the machine is still alive - I've seen lots of comments about this (as well as my own feeling)
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11:30.04hrw|worklardman|work: I dont know about apm
11:30.04XorAlardman|work: which apm fix?
11:30.28hrw|workXorA: oe bug#458 iirc
11:31.00lardman|workThis was what I was thinking, but it's collie only isn't it: http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=16224
11:32.43XorAlardman|work: ah, 2.6 kdrive apm problem is very different from 2.4 kernel problem
11:34.25lardman|workI wasn't sure whether it was 2.6....
11:34.43lardman|workbut yes of course
11:36.57hrw|workI have some opie fixes to put in branch.
11:52.07CobeliusI still have the problem to build thee libc. I read somewhere that i have to user a newer CVS Snapshot to build it. So I changed the CVSDATE parameter. Now I get an error message when bitbake is trying to configure the glibc
11:53.05CobeliusIt seems that CVS don't download linuxthread
11:53.09Cobeliushow can I fix that?
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12:06.49Cobeliusor different
12:07.05Cobeliushow can I telle bitbake not to user the package for the cvs version?
12:16.45hrw|workPREFERRED_VERSION_glibc = "version"
12:17.37CobeliusI've tried that but it is still using the version 2.3.5 from the cvs
12:17.49Cobeliuscould a
12:18.15Cobeliuscould PREFFERED_PROVIDER_virtual/glibc = "glibc" help?
12:18.22hrw|workvirtual/libc
12:19.31Cobeliusokay I try it
12:19.59TyggerBobgood morning hrw|work
12:20.33hrw|workhi TyggerBob
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12:37.00TyggerBobif I could ask a favour.. if someone has some spare cycles (haha), could they do up a .bb for libevent?  While I'm having some success doing .bb's for some smaller apps, system libraries are a bit out of my league.  I have a couple of apps that need it, though.
12:39.38hrw|worktry - its simple
12:40.09TyggerBobwhat's a good example to base it on?  maybe libnet?
12:40.46hrw|worklibetpan?
12:40.55TyggerBobok...
12:41.02TyggerBobI'll check that out..
12:41.05TyggerBobthanks hrw|work
12:42.19hrw|worknp
12:49.35hrw|workbeware branch users... many updates pushed to ewi
12:54.02TyggerBobwow.. the compile worked..  staging took a dump, but that's progress :)
12:56.02TyggerBobahh. it's trying to install the man pages..
12:56.20hrw|workso?
12:56.30TyggerBobfails.. permission denied
12:56.49hrw|workfix makefile for using DESTDIR
13:00.21TyggerBobShould DESTDIR be the image dir or the staging dir? I haven't been able to wrap my brain around that...
13:00.59hrw|workDESTDIR is provided by OE
13:02.22CIA-303rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r78a0955a... 10/: nas100d-kernel: fixed rtc cmdline and unpinned the kernel version.
13:02.54TyggerBobmandir = $(DESTDIR)/share/man ?
13:03.08TyggerBobthat's the line I found in the Makefile..
13:03.11hrw|workno..
13:03.20hrw|workDESTDIR/usr/share/man/
13:03.25TyggerBobAHHHH
13:03.26TyggerBobok
13:03.44hrw|work$(DESTDIR)/usr/share/man ;)
13:03.57TyggerBobnow it starts to become clear...
13:05.01hrw|workXorA: ping
13:05.03hrw|worklardman|work: ping
13:05.10XorAhrw|work: po
13:06.14hrw|workXorA: I'm trying to add latest fixes from .dev to .oz354fam083 and wonder on some of them..
13:06.32lardman|workhrw|work: pong
13:06.41hrw|workXorA: for example lirc fixes.. they are rather usefull but do add them or not..
13:06.55hrw|workthose ones I'll add anyway
13:06.57lardman|workI say yes, users always seem to want lirc
13:07.52lardman|workWhich branch did florian put the matchbox-card-applet into? That would be good by default in the gpe-image
13:09.54XorAhrw|work: Ive never used lirc, dont even know if it works on 2.6 c7x0 devices
13:10.19lardman|workIt didn't work on 2.4.x either iirc
13:10.33CIA-303hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r396102be... 10/:
13:10.33CIA-3opie-pcmciaapplet: backported fix from CVS - use 'activate' as default
13:10.33CIA-3- previous default was 'suspend' which was confusing
13:10.33CIA-3- taken from .dev
13:10.42CIA-303hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r960299b0... 10/:
13:10.44CIA-3opie-aboutapplet: backport from CVS: added Marcin 'Hrw' Juszkiewicz to authors
13:10.46CIA-3- taken from .dev
13:11.07hrw|workpoor cia.. I DoSsed it
13:11.15hrw|worklardman|work: .dev
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13:11.23lardman|workhrw|work: okay
13:11.48lardman|workhrw|work: Might be worth pulling into the branch as it will be useful - I guess koen's the one to do that tho
13:12.07hrw|worklardman|work: so go into #350
13:12.41TyggerBobhrw|work: NOTE: package libevent-1.1a: completed
13:12.53hrw|workTyggerBob: grats
13:12.55TyggerBobnow to try it out
13:13.01TyggerBobthanks very much
13:14.04hrw|worklardman|work: I can push opie or base changes. prefer to not touch gpe ones
13:14.25lardman|workhrw|work: Yes, that's fair enough
13:16.51TyggerBobis this an easy fix?  maybe replacing with a compatible definition or something: http://pastebin.ca/31152
13:17.19hrw|workTyggerBob: ICE, ICE baby ;)
13:17.19XorAfile://gpe-applet-cards is missing from that mathbox-applet-cards
13:17.32hrw|workTyggerBob: easiest way: try again
13:17.41TyggerBob?
13:17.53hrw|workTyggerBob: first try again
13:17.59hrw|workICE - internal compiler error
13:18.12zecke_re
13:18.28TyggerBoback, erpp. pftttttt
13:19.41TyggerBobnope...
13:21.14lardman|workright time to go, have a nice weekend everyone
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13:26.08hrw|workkoen__: you alive?
13:26.25koen__hey hrw|work
13:26.39hrw|workhi koen
13:27.00hrw|workkoen: I pushed some stuff from .dev to .oz354fam083
13:27.31koencool, thanks
13:27.38TyggerBobhrw|work, I did a grep -R for strlcpy in the packages dir.. looks like it's bad juju
13:27.44koenhey TyggerBob
13:27.47hrw|worksome stuff I wonder does push or not..
13:27.56TyggerBobHeya koen
13:28.09hrw|workTyggerBob: first try again - some ICEs are not repeatable
13:28.20TyggerBobthis one repeats..
13:28.27TyggerBobdid a -c clean, tried..
13:28.30TyggerBobthen tried again..
13:28.34TyggerBobstill happens
13:28.36hrw|workah.. so problem you have
13:28.40TyggerBobyep :)
13:29.12koenhrw|work: I'll push some more stuff into the branch when I get home (base.bbclass for example)
13:29.30hrw|workok
13:29.51hrw|workkoen: prerm actions too?
13:30.17koenthat one too
13:30.19TyggerBobkoen, I've added about a dozen .bbs for sectest apps :)
13:30.25koenTyggerBob: cool
13:30.29TyggerBobjust small stuff, but they work..
13:31.05koeneeks!
13:31.11koenit's snowing at home
13:31.44TyggerBobhehehe
13:31.50TyggerBobsnowing here too
13:32.03XorAkoen: snowing here badly just outside Edin
13:32.09XorAkoen: this is rarew
13:32.25TyggerBobhehe.. I wish it was rare here :)
13:32.38koenthat means I'll go from a sunny 24 degree C to >10cm snow this evening
13:33.33ade|deskcold and windy here , but no snow in cambs
13:33.39TyggerBobhehehe
13:35.52_law_http://pastebin.com/437755 any ideas  staging/arm-linux/include/bluetooth/sdp.h is here
13:35.53TyggerBoband then again this morning after the plow came by and filled in the end of my driveway
13:37.57TyggerBobI see some patches in other packages for strlcpy issues.. I'll check those out and see if they're applicable.
13:38.37CIA-1303hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * ref221c1f... 10/:
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13:38.46CIA-3lirc: fixed path to daemons in initscripts - close #453
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13:39.39ade|deskhow many updates was that ?
13:41.03hrw|workade|desk: today I pushed 10 updates to that branch
13:42.32ade|desknicely nicely :)
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14:03.35greentuxmorning
14:03.42greentux~ibot
14:03.44ibothmm... ibot is a blootbot written in perl run by TimRiker on his server. logs on http://ibot.rikers.org/<chan>/ , ibot, jbot, apt are all the same process. It uses sqlite, but mysql or other SQL storage is also supported.
14:06.09hrw|workhi greentux
14:07.06koenhey greentux
14:07.26greentuxis it possible to have a /etc/pcmcia/bluetooth.opts like serial.opts? i have gibe setserial and hciattach special parameter for my BT card...
14:08.04koen<PROTECTED>
14:09.56greentuxmmmh
14:10.03greentuxonly hotplug and usb
14:11.28greentuxi need a pre-script while plugin the bluetooth card for the 921600 speeds
14:13.15greentux~seen zecke_
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14:32.12greentuxkoen: is there any ressource to read about BT init in /etc/pcmcia/bluetooth and /etc/default/bluetooth?
14:32.51koenno idea
14:33.08koengpe install blueprobe which handles all that via /etc/sysconfig/bluetooth
14:33.56greentuxok
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14:41.41Macfironhi
14:41.55koenhey Macfiron
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14:42.07florian_kchi all
14:42.09Macfironhi florian_kc
14:43.32zecke_greentux: yes?
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14:46.19koenhey florian_kc
14:48.01koenflorian_kc: could you prepare a patch which update .oz354fam083 to the latest gpe 2.7 bits (including conf/distro/preferred-gpe-versions-2.7) ?
14:48.58florian_kckoen|away: I can try... maybe i have some time next weekend.
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15:14.47lrgRP: Good news :) I now have a working bus interface for audio. I've also moved the i2c probing into the machine layer so the codec driver control is agnostic
15:15.30lrgRP: this will mean it will be easier to use 3w (SSP, etc) for control.
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16:00.24RPlrg: That sounds great :)
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16:02.30lrgRP: I have to do some tidy up, so I'll hopefully have something for you on Monday
16:05.03hrw|workcorrect me if I'm wrong - but does modules deps are generated for 2.6 kernel in OE?
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16:15.37RPhrw|work: I can't remember if someone made them work or not
16:15.51RPlrg: sounds good :)
16:16.07XorARP: lrg: does this mean a decent sound driver in 3.5.4 timeframe?
16:16.31lrgXorA: whens 3.5.4 due ?
16:16.42XorAlrg: no idea
16:17.21lrgXorA: don't know. I still have some madplay issues to fix.
16:18.14XorAlrg: choppy sound?
16:18.48lrgXorA: I think RP reported lookups. Do you get choppy sound ?
16:18.58lrglockups
16:20.05XorAlrg: mp3blaster which used to work long ago before RP made some "fixes" to 2.4 kernel now just gives me choppiness on both oss (sharp) driver and your new driver, but I havent investigated much, it may be a bug in mp3blaster, I just liked its interface
16:20.30XorAI mean "fixes" to 2.6 oss driver he ported from 2.4 kernel
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16:22.03lrgXorA: I'm getting a borzoi next week so I should be able to redproduce. Although, I think the problem is more with mp3blaster as aplay seems fine here.
16:22.18XorAlrg: this is on c7x0
16:22.42XorAlrg: I tried to work out what sound code did in mp3blaster, gives me headache, mplayer works just perfectly though
16:23.09lrgXorA: ok, doe mp3blaster work on your ALSA pc ?
16:23.13lrgdoes
16:23.36XorAlrg: not sure currently, and Im unable to test until thurs when I finish moving house
16:23.45XorAlrg: Ill try and find out though
16:23.46RPXorA: I've never had mp3blaster working. Did it not use heavy floating point and was hence unsuitable for arm?
16:23.57lrgah.
16:24.15lrgthat explains it.
16:24.16XorARP: it used to work once, maybe an earlier version had a different codec or something
16:24.45RPI get all the players confused so I could be wrong but I think I concluded it wasn't suitable...
16:24.58Cobelius|awayFor what is the tinder.conf?
16:25.09hrw|workCobelius|away: tinderclient probably
16:26.07Cobeliuswhat is that?
16:26.16XorARP: you could be right and it was just borderline working for me before
16:26.21RPI have another nice new piece of functionality for the 2.6 Zaurii working here btw. mickeyl will be pleased with this one. Watch for a checkin soon, once I refactor the code a bit
16:26.39NoodlesTease.
16:27.13hrw|workRP: dynticks?
16:27.20XorAlrg: not worth wasting time on anyway
16:27.31hrw|workCobelius: distributed client iirc
16:27.45NoodlesI should probably upgrade to the 2.6.15-rc kernel. Are there many changes over 14-git3?
16:28.50Cobeliusokay
16:29.00RPNoodles: Its a very different kernel. PCMCIA is more stable and lots of code was merged. I'd wait for my next checkin though
16:29.05NoodlesOk.
16:29.23NoodlesI've found -git3 ok. Been happily using it with GPE and gpsdrive.
16:29.49NoodlesAnd bluetooth & 802.11b CF cards.
16:29.55RPNoodles: -git3 is the new stable kernel :)
16:30.12RPI've not tested -rc2 as much but it seems just as nice if not nicer
16:30.14NoodlesWell, stop yaking to me and do your commit. :)
16:31.21RPNoodles: What do you think I'm doing? :). It'll be about 45 mins.
16:37.29Cobeliusfor what are the files in org.openembedded.dev/files ?
16:45.29hrw|workCobelius: iirc they are used when images (rootfs) are created
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16:45.45hrw|workReiserFS: hda1: warning: vs-5150: search_by_key: invalid format found in block 106810. Fsck?
16:45.48hrw|workReiserFS: hda1: warning: vs-13070: reiserfs_read_locked_inode: i/o failure occurred trying to find stat data of [9684 16909 0x0 SD]
16:45.51hrw|workI love it..
16:47.32Cobeliusthank you
16:47.37woglindehrw hm why are you using reiser?
16:47.56hrw|workwoglinde: because I did not liked ext2/3
16:48.36hrw|workwoglinde: and I switched to reiserfs years ago
16:49.06hrw|workcurrently dont know does those errors comes from hdd breakage or from power problems or rfs problems
16:50.25hrw|workhdd pass every SMART tests
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16:50.56hrw|workcu all
16:51.03hrw|workhave a nice weekend
16:51.06Cobeliusbye hrw
16:51.08Cobeliusyou too
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16:56.54Bernardohi
16:57.22Bernardohrw|gone: I'm sorry, I managed to generate a 2.6 image last night, but haven't had the time to flash it until now
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17:15.02zeckehey mithro
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17:16.26RPNoodles: pull ;-)
17:17.03NoodlesChug. Chug. Chug.
17:17.21CIA-303rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r3517427e... 10/: (log message trimmed)
17:17.21CIA-3linux-oz-2.6: Updates to dev branch. Add LED class and first attempt at LED
17:17.21CIA-3Triggers core code. Add LED drivers for corgi/spitz. Add various prototype LED
17:17.21CIA-3triggers. All accessed via /sys/class/leds. Also fix bug in calculating the
17:17.21CIA-3zImage file size in linux-openzaurus.inc as the previous version didn't work
17:17.22CIA-3with sparse files (zImage has some sparse data areas). Updated defconfigs to
17:17.24CIA-3match LED changes and to attempt to keep spitz within the zaurus bootloader size
17:17.47NoodlesOoooh.
17:17.50NoodlesFlashy lights.
17:18.05NoodlesLet's see if I can build with a defconfig without getting told the image is too big.
17:21.14RPNoodles: Hopefully fixing that sparse bug will mean we all see the same results from the defconfig. It works here for akita/spitz
17:21.35NoodlesWell, I've kicked off a build. I'm using 3.4.4 I think.
17:22.19RP3.4.3 here but I'll be interested to see how much different the filesize is. What kind of filesystemdo you run OE on?
17:22.37Noodlesext3.
17:22.45NoodlesI haven't changed the partitioning from the default.
17:23.23RPI mean what fs is your build directory on?
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17:23.40Noodlesxfs.
17:24.04RPThat might be why we saw the differences then as it probably does sparse handling differently
17:24.40NoodlesWhy does sparse cause a problem? Surely it ends up as the full size in flash?
17:25.12Noodlesie the danger would be underestimating size rather than overestimating.
17:25.45RPNoodles: The issue was the difference in the value of "ls -l" vs "ls -s". OE was using ls -s to determine the filesize which is totally wrong
17:26.06NoodlesAh.
17:34.15zeckecya
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17:41.28RPbye zecke
17:42.02NoodlesI need a faster machine. That's still building.
17:42.53NoodlesHeh. It's just started packaging.
17:42.59RPFresh kernels take a while...
17:45.26Cobeliusbye
17:45.32Cobeliushave a nice weekend!
17:47.45NoodlesRP: That built fine without complaining about size (and my last build attempt complained about size).
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17:53.15RPNoodles: What is the size out of interest?
17:53.41RP1289252 here
17:53.55Noodles1288156
17:54.26RPI'd better switch to 3.4.4 and gain an extra 1000 bytes then :)
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18:00.40NoodlesWoah. CF GPRS modem for £30+VAT.
18:03.10RPNoodles: Where from?
18:03.16Noodlesebuyer.
18:03.28Noodleshttp://tinyurl.com/bp72o
18:03.46RPlinux support?
18:03.52NoodlesNo idea.
18:04.10NoodlesI would assume it'll present as a serial port though.
18:04.17NoodlesI'm trying to persuade myself I don't need one. :)
18:05.04RPme too :)
18:09.49NoodlesTo be fair with the advent of bluetooth I'm reasonably well sorted.
18:12.48RPMy mobile phone is years old and has no internet connectivity :-/
18:13.07NoodlesAh, see I got a funky new free one with 3G and bluetooth.
18:20.06TyggerBobof course.. libdnet wouldn't compile as easily as libevent did :(
18:23.59TyggerBobhoist one for me, RP
18:23.59woglindehave fun rp
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18:40.38florian_kcbbl
18:44.17TyggerBobMorning, kergoth
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18:55.53volanyone know where i can find the oe wiki?
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19:04.48zeckehey
19:05.45TyggerBobHey zecke
19:05.49TyggerBobHi Jamie
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19:08.00jamieHello.
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19:10.24TyggerBobrehi, zecke_
19:14.44TyggerBobJamie.. do you remember that issue with PCMCIA ethernet cards and lost interrupts causing lousy performance?
19:14.58TyggerBobI'm looking through bugzilla but can't find it in there...
19:16.44TyggerBobDidn't want to re-enter it if it was already there..
19:16.44jamieI guess I don't, no :)
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19:16.55TyggerBobno problem..
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19:34.51volwhere can i find a howto on building images with oe?
19:36.54zeckevol: Getting Started of our WIki?
19:37.08volopenembedded.org seems down for me
19:37.39zeckevol: oe.handhelds.org
19:37.47volk
19:37.51volthanks
19:38.01zeckekergoth: update the DNS please?!
19:40.01kergothzecke: done, just needs to propogate
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19:42.38zeckekergoth:  ;)
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20:11.42Zero_Chaoscan anyone tell me why kismet thinks opie-embeddedconsole doesn't support color?
20:11.53Zero_Chaosand yes, I installed ncurses and ncurses-terminfo
20:14.25zeckesorry no
20:14.45zeckeecho $TERM
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20:23.17Zero_Chaosvt100
20:23.24Zero_Chaosand that's not right...
20:23.28Zero_Chaosshould be linux, right?
20:25.33Zero_Chaoszecke: ?
20:28.26zecketry xterm-color
20:28.38zeckewell vt100 is save ;)
20:29.14Zero_ChaosI used TERM=linux and it worked fine..
20:29.23Zero_Chaoszecke: why is this not default?
20:34.39zeckeZero_Chaos: why should it be the default?
20:34.48zeckeZero_Chaos: you can change it though ;)
20:35.27Zero_Chaoszecke: well, the terminal support color, so using vt100 as default seems bad to me.
20:35.41Zero_Chaoszecke: can I change that? for me at least...
20:35.49zeckeZero_Chaos: sure ;)
20:35.59Zero_Chaoszecke: how?
20:36.11zeckeZero_Chaos: opie-console was written as a serial console implementation, and VT100 sounded like the best idea
20:36.28zeckeZero_Chaos: I do not remember the exact location
20:36.43zeckeZero_Chaos: you can configure every profile, just edit the default one
20:37.14Zero_Chaoszecke: I meant can I fix that before I build the image :-), and I'm using opie-embeddedkonsole (personal preference)
20:38.08zeckeZero_Chaos: ah well. I guess one can not change it with the embeddedkonsole :(
20:39.04Zero_Chaoszecke: well, that sucks, don't it. wish there was just a line in the .bb I could change :-)
20:40.17zeckeZero_Chaos: you could try to talk to lorn (ljp) to change the default for embeddedkonsole
20:40.45Zero_Chaoszecke: can I find him in here usually?
20:40.55Zero_Chaosmickey|vacation: how is that vacation going?
20:41.04zeckeZero_Chaos: normally here
20:42.26zeckeZero_Chaos: http://handhelds.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/opie/core/apps/embeddedkonsole/MyPty.cpp?rev=1.8&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup
20:42.33zeckeline 173 ;)
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20:44.08zeckehail pb_
20:44.23pb_hail zecke
20:44.28Zero_Chaoszecke: thanks as always
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22:15.41TyggerBobargg..
22:15.52TyggerBobmy image build worked fine the other day, and now
22:15.53TyggerBobhttp://www.snakeoillabs.com/2005/11/13/you-know-youve-spent-too-much-time-on-a-mac-when/
22:15.55TyggerBoboops
22:15.58TyggerBob<PROTECTED>
22:15.58TyggerBob| + '[' -f /mnt/usbext2/bitbakery/oe/build/tmp/rootfs/usr/lib/ipkg/info/libgpg-error0.postinst ']'
22:15.58TyggerBob| + sh /mnt/usbext2/bitbakery/oe/build/tmp/rootfs/usr/lib/ipkg/info/libgpg-error0.postinst configure
22:15.58TyggerBob|
22:16.43pb_sounds like you were suckered by the crazy log-grepping thing.
22:16.50pb_you'll have to inspect the log by hand to find the real error
22:20.26pb_I still live in hope that, someday, someone will remove that stuff from rootfs_ipk.  But, these days, it's very much more of a hope than an expectation.
22:23.51TyggerBobDOH..I had a typo in the .bb file.. fixed it, but didn't do a clean on the task package
22:24.24pb_aha
22:25.24TyggerBobsorry the meta package
22:26.03TyggerBobwell.. wife's home, it's 5:30.. gotta scoot.. take care guys.. nice chatting
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