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| 01:35.16 | ZonE-HaKin9|wrk | morning all, is anyone else having errors ;ike this? "exceptions.NameError:name 'base_set_filespath'" |
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| 01:40.40 | ZonE-HaKin9|wrk | all fix don't worry |
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| 07:57.07 | alan|laptop | good morning |
| 07:58.04 | luke-jr_ | If you were a bag of screws, where would you hide? |
| 07:58.17 | luke-jr_ | alan|laptop: BTW, sorry for lack of updates on oz-ljr :( |
| 07:59.04 | alan|laptop | luke-jr_: hi ! cool to see you :) |
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| 07:59.35 | alan|laptop | don't worry about oz-ljr, i don't have much time to spend on my Z those days |
| 08:00.09 | luke-jr_ | neither do I :/ |
| 08:00.13 | luke-jr_ | not useful w/o WiFi |
| 08:00.30 | alan|laptop | i will have one for christmass ^^ |
| 08:00.37 | luke-jr_ | hm? |
| 08:00.50 | luke-jr_ | I have a wifi card... just the only network is my own |
| 08:01.16 | luke-jr_ | tho it'd be nice to get that new Sprint stuff |
| 08:01.37 | alan|laptop | what Sprint stuff ? |
| 08:01.38 | luke-jr_ | it supports sticking a WiFi router in your car's cig lighter and get instant WiFi anywhere |
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| 08:01.42 | luke-jr_ | via cell towers |
| 08:01.52 | luke-jr_ | like $50/mo |
| 08:01.52 | alan|laptop | wow... |
| 08:01.57 | alan|laptop | ouch |
| 08:02.02 | luke-jr_ | not too ouch |
| 08:02.06 | luke-jr_ | it's broadband speeds |
| 08:02.51 | luke-jr_ | so you could use it for your home connection too, if you didn't mind being down there when away |
| 08:02.51 | alan|laptop | this + web access at home + cell phone = ouch anyway... |
| 08:04.27 | alan|laptop | mmm... i mainly use web acess at univ or home. I guess this service is not for me. Anyway, it's not availiable in france for now. |
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| 09:16.55 | RP | morning all |
| 09:17.58 | koen|sleep | good morning RP |
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| 09:42.29 | RP | morning Liam |
| 09:43.14 | lrg|home | morning Richard |
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| 09:56.34 | hrw|work | morning |
| 09:56.45 | koen | hey hrw|work |
| 09:56.55 | hrw|work | wifi cards... mine is 1Mbps only |
| 09:56.55 | RP | morning hrw|work |
| 10:02.15 | oyo | nice to hrw |
| 10:02.19 | oyo | hi RP |
| 10:02.27 | oyo | hey koen |
| 10:02.59 | koen | hey oyo |
| 10:03.07 | RP | hi oyo |
| 10:03.10 | hrw|work | hi oyo |
| 10:03.20 | mickeyl | morning folks |
| 10:03.30 | RP | morning mickeyl |
| 10:03.37 | hrw|work | hi mickeyl |
| 10:04.17 | mickeyl | ~seen justinp |
| 10:04.19 | ibot | justinp <n=papercra@c-67-174-226-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #openzaurus, 41d 8h 54m 58s ago, saying: 'AppleBoy: haven't really noticed, no. Wasn't watching when I was downloading. I'll try to remember to pay attention next time ;-)'. |
| 10:05.39 | koen | hey mickeyl |
| 10:06.04 | koen | what the status on 2.6 for spitz, akita and borzoi in the .oz354fam083 branch? |
| 10:06.35 | RP | koen: Its not going to work from the branch - too much needs importing from .dev |
| 10:06.44 | koen | ok |
| 10:07.11 | RP | koen: After 3.5.4 is released, I'll release a 3.5.4.1 from .dev with 2.6 images for cxx00 and maybe c7x0 |
| 10:07.28 | RP | feed will be the 3.5.4 release and this will just be the base system |
| 10:07.40 | koen | so this is correct for the branch: http://pastebin.com/449366 ? |
| 10:08.16 | RP | koen: yes |
| 10:08.22 | koen | ok, thanks |
| 10:08.37 | hrw|work | + KERNEL_VERSION_tosa = "2.4" |
| 10:12.05 | CIA-1 | 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r5690b819... 10/: familiar 0.8.3: specify the correct kernel_version for different zaurus models |
| 10:14.40 | koen | mickeyl: I'm starting a buildrun for oz3.5.4 with all machines to spot non-building parts |
| 10:17.10 | koen | mickeyl: if you are interested in the resulting images, just give me a sign |
| 10:17.16 | mickeyl | koen: good idea. *sign* |
| 10:17.18 | mickeyl | :) |
| 10:17.20 | koen | :) |
| 10:19.32 | RP | koen: The oz kernel in the branch probably needs some "archive/"'s adding to the SCR_URIs |
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| 10:24.50 | XorA | morn ing |
| 10:26.07 | koen | RP: I'll just wget -r RPSRC and dump *.patch in DLDIR |
| 10:28.16 | RP | koen: its up to you. I think nearly every patch in that kernel is in archive now so it should be easy to update |
| 10:28.18 | RP | morning XorA |
| 10:33.11 | mjc | mornin. |
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| 10:36.09 | katossi_uni | hi all |
| 10:37.00 | katossi_uni | RP: hi, I've been away for some time, I hope everything is working as fine as it did before |
| 10:37.54 | marcan | hi there |
| 10:41.07 | alan|laptop | marcan: firewall ? |
| 10:41.38 | marcan | did the same on another network, plus my firewall works well with every other device, and worked well with the sharp rom. |
| 10:41.51 | marcan | OZ here, wifi. |
| 10:42.04 | marcan | I might rebuild OZ from my OE tree, see if there are any updates |
| 10:42.07 | marcan | but it is really weird |
| 10:42.09 | alan|laptop | i mean opie-firewall. |
| 10:42.26 | marcan | I'm on GPE, and iptables is cleared on the device |
| 10:42.37 | alan|laptop | ok. then i don't know |
| 10:42.39 | alan|laptop | ^^ |
| 10:42.46 | marcan | heh |
| 10:42.57 | marcan | neither do I |
| 10:43.05 | marcan | it used to work, at least on an older OZ with opie |
| 10:43.11 | marcan | but I doubt opie vs gpe makes the difference |
| 10:43.13 | marcan | or does it? |
| 10:43.17 | marcan | time to investigate :) |
| 10:44.14 | RP | hi katossi_uni, hopefully it should be... |
| 10:45.31 | katossi_uni | RP: cool |
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| 10:50.24 | ade|desk | morning all |
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| 10:58.00 | RP | morning ade|desk |
| 11:00.30 | CIA-1 | 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rab4f1655... 10/: e2fsprogs: patch Makefile.ins to create symlinks instead of hardlinks, remove bogus postinsts, and fix FILES in 1.38, backported from .dev |
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| 11:04.54 | ade|desk | hehe still building a gpe image for akita started on friday, i love fast systems |
| 11:07.08 | hrw|work | I'll wait for sd card with building |
| 11:12.25 | hrw|work | hi lardman |
| 11:13.44 | lardman|work | hi hrw|work, morning all |
| 11:21.05 | ade|desk | RP: which do you recommend -get3 or +2.6.25-rc2, its just that the build buffs on git3 due to oversizing, at least it did on saturday |
| 11:21.30 | ade|desk | s/buffs/baffs |
| 11:21.36 | RP | ade|desk: -rc2 |
| 11:22.13 | ade|desk | oops .15 not 25 , lol |
| 11:22.38 | ade|desk | RP: cheers |
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| 11:44.17 | koen | mickeyl: the results of the buildrun can be found in http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/OZ/ |
| 11:46.37 | hrw|work | koen: branch build? |
| 11:46.43 | koen | yes |
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| 11:48.15 | hrw|work | I saw h6500, mda3, mda4 during weekend.. |
| 11:48.47 | koen | h6500 has linux support, but not published yet |
| 11:48.55 | hrw|work | koen: #427 (h6300 kernel) can be closed now? |
| 11:49.17 | koen | yeah, that one is obsolete now |
| 11:49.27 | koen | I should push the latest kernel into the branch |
| 11:49.29 | mickeyl | koen: cool, thanks |
| 11:51.54 | koen | hrw|work: the xda/mda hackers are looking at OE |
| 11:52.26 | hrw|work | xanadux-ba-2.6 |
| 11:52.34 | koen | yep |
| 11:52.56 | koen | we should poke the xanadux people to work on angstrom |
| 11:54.26 | hrw|work | any news on eabi front? |
| 11:55.30 | koen | toolchain and patches available, just not in OE |
| 11:56.19 | hrw|work | csl one? |
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| 11:59.09 | koen | yes |
| 11:59.19 | koen | I'm downloading it right now |
| 11:59.23 | koen | http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/csl/ |
| 12:00.07 | koen | 10.96K/s ETA 2:32:53 |
| 12:00.52 | RP | hi dirk |
| 12:01.01 | do13 | hi richard |
| 12:04.08 | lrg|home | hi dirk, I've fixed suspend/resume on tosa touch, It needs some cleaning up though. I've been a bit busy recently, so I'll try and send you something tomorrow. |
| 12:05.52 | do13 | hi liam, cool. This sounds good. |
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| 12:26.19 | greentux | hi hrw|work |
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| 12:26.51 | greentux | ~seen hrw|work |
| 12:26.54 | ibot | hrw|work is currently on #oe (5d 3h 12s) #openzaurus (5d 3h 12s) #opie (5d 3h 12s). Has said a total of 294 messages. Is idling for 30m 35s |
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| 12:36.39 | RP | hi greentux |
| 12:39.00 | greentux | hi RP |
| 12:39.20 | greentux | hrw|work has lunch... ? |
| 12:41.54 | greentux | hello lrg|home |
| 12:42.31 | lrg|home | hi greentux |
| 12:43.45 | greentux | lrg|home: and? borzoi up and running? |
| 12:44.45 | lrg|home | greentux: yes thanks, I'm about to start the machine specific audio parts soon |
| 12:45.12 | greentux | lrg|home: very nice... you faxed that paper? |
| 12:45.31 | greentux | lrg|home: german bureaucrazy |
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| 12:45.56 | lrg|home | greentux: np, I can't fax until Wednesday as I'm working at home today and tomorrow. |
| 12:46.19 | lrg|home | greentux: you should get it Wednesday am |
| 12:47.06 | greentux | lrg|home: thanks! is there also a chance to get these micro input stuff working? (switching etc) |
| 12:48.20 | lrg|home | greentux: do you mean headphone insertion ? |
| 12:49.14 | greentux | lrg|home: yes, i think ist necessary for micro insertion? |
| 12:49.55 | lrg|home | ah, microphone insertion. yes it is. I will also automatically enable mic bais. |
| 12:50.15 | greentux | lrg|home: i dont know, is there a micro in the borzoi? |
| 12:51.00 | lrg|home | not sure yet, I'll have to check with RP |
| 12:51.26 | greentux | i did not found any docu, but i believe there must be a micro (front right edge) |
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| 12:51.48 | greentux | headphone insertion is good for stereo/mono switching? |
| 12:52.57 | lrg|home | greentux: hp insertion will only switch the spk (mono) and hp (stereo) usersapce applications will still be able to play stereo when using spk |
| 12:56.02 | greentux | lrg|home: ok, so i am right |
| 12:56.36 | lrg|home | greentux: yes |
| 13:07.06 | RP | lrg|home: I don't think bozroi has a microphone built in |
| 13:08.24 | koen | hrw|work: cardfs images are just ext2 loop files? |
| 13:08.42 | lrg|home | RP: thanks, i didn't think so. could only find a hole in the case for a spk. |
| 13:09.18 | hrw|work | re |
| 13:09.28 | hrw|work | greentux: it was meeting - lunch in a minute(s) |
| 13:09.55 | hrw|work | koen: never checked - probably yes (if not just tarball to unpack) |
| 13:10.19 | koen | hrw|work: ok |
| 13:11.23 | greentux | hrw|work: your sd card is here... |
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| 13:12.58 | hrw|work | greentux: so you now need my address and some extra action from my side? |
| 13:14.15 | greentux | hrw|work: i have your adress... |
| 13:14.33 | greentux | hrw|work: from the bluetooth card |
| 13:14.55 | hrw|work | ah.. yep - checked logs. |
| 13:15.45 | greentux | hrw|work: and i cant donate it fix to you, but can borrow/lend it for 3 years... :) that means only that you shouldnt sell ... |
| 13:16.20 | hrw|work | ;) ok |
| 13:16.38 | koen | hrw|work: something in the collie image build requires usbutils, so that's why it shows up in the images |
| 13:17.20 | hrw|work | koen: meta-opie.bb - I forgot to push fix to branch |
| 13:20.39 | hrw|work | ok. I go lunch |
| 13:26.31 | katossi_uni | when compiling gmp I get the following error: autotools_stage_all: command not found |
| 13:26.47 | katossi_uni | is it a gmp bug or am I missing something? |
| 13:27.32 | koen | your autotools.bbclass is probably too old |
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| 13:34.04 | katossi_uni | koen: I updated the tree today! |
| 13:34.32 | koen | it seems that it failed |
| 13:34.57 | koen | koen@bitbake:~/OE/monotone/org.openembedded.oz354fam083$ grep stage classes/autotools.bbclass |
| 13:35.00 | koen | autotools_stage_includes() { |
| 13:35.03 | koen | autotools_stage_all() { |
| 13:35.29 | katossi_uni | koen: I'm using the dev branch |
| 13:35.54 | koen | koen@bitbake:~/OE/monotone/org.openembedded.dev$ grep stage classes/autotools.bbclass |
| 13:35.57 | koen | autotools_stage_includes() { |
| 13:35.59 | koen | autotools_stage_all() { |
| 13:36.19 | katossi_uni | I get that too |
| 13:39.16 | katossi_uni | I don't know why I get the command not found |
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| 13:57.37 | XorA | ~lart me for booting a 2.6.15-rc2 kernel on 2.6.13 / |
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| 14:35.56 | XorA | ~lart me for not learning On+On is not the same as On+Ok |
| 14:37.35 | XorA | RP: there is a CMDLINE_ROOT in defconfig-c7x0 which seems to override the one supplied by the .bb file |
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| 14:43.48 | RP | XorA: Which one ends up getting used? |
| 14:44.15 | RP | The one towards the end of the file used to but I guess Kconfig could have changed |
| 14:49.24 | ade|desk | oops , kernel panic, cannot open root device "hda1" or unknown-block(0,0) |
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| 14:51.32 | ade|desk | where is the cmdline set ? |
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| 14:53.03 | RP | ade|desk: Sounds like the same problem Xora is seeing... |
| 14:53.39 | RP | ade|desk: I'll fix... |
| 14:54.57 | ade|desk | amny thanks |
| 14:55.07 | ade|desk | s/amny/many |
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| 15:32.50 | CIA-1 | 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r7f800e69... 10/: familiar 0.8.3: slide cvsdate forward |
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| 15:35.25 | greentux | somebody uses a usb-keyboard on Z ? |
| 15:36.12 | hrw|lunch | and usb keyboard too :) |
| 15:37.08 | greentux | :( |
| 15:39.02 | hrw|lunch | brb |
| 15:40.02 | greentux | ~brb |
| 15:40.03 | ibot | greentux: brb, too. Be Right Back |
| 15:40.47 | RP | greentux: I don't own one so I've not tried. The kernel side of things should be fine but I'm not sure about the xserver (presuming you mean under gpe)? |
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| 15:41.42 | hrw|work | re |
| 15:41.50 | RP | wb hrw|work |
| 15:42.11 | koen | last I checked usb keyboards worked fine |
| 15:42.15 | hrw|work | finally have kde 3.5.0 (wth parts from 3.4.3 still) |
| 15:42.20 | koen | (ipaq h5550 + cfu1u) |
| 15:42.51 | XorA | RP: the one in defconfig-c7x0 is used |
| 15:42.58 | XorA | RP: it broke my / on MMC patch |
| 15:43.21 | RP | XorA: ade|desk is also seeing the issue - the kernel must have changed - will fix |
| 15:43.52 | XorA | RP: cool, confused the hell out of me that I had 2.6.13 / and 2.6.15 kernel :-) |
| 15:52.13 | greentux | RP: will check that keyboard next days. got it today |
| 15:55.05 | RP | XorA: Recently, I got really confused when my new kernel wouldn't boot. Turned out to be a spitz kernel flashed on a c7x0 :) |
| 15:55.31 | XorA | RP: heh heh, didnt magically give you a HD or anything then |
| 15:55.56 | RP | sadly not:) |
| 15:57.24 | XorA | well thats 2.6.15-rc2 on my c7x0 |
| 15:57.58 | RP | I'll update to -rc4 soon then ;-) |
| 15:58.08 | RP | or I believe rc5 is out now... |
| 15:58.15 | XorA | RP: keeping us on our toes :-) |
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| 16:06.30 | CSMan | hello |
| 16:07.03 | CSMan | does anybody know how to add pgup/down keys to the virtual keyboard ? |
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| 16:08.56 | hrw|work | cu |
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| 16:10.33 | ironstorm | anyone have a server they could mirror a 300MB VM image file (for building OE)? |
| 16:11.10 | koen | sure |
| 16:11.30 | hrw|gone | maybe pack it a bit? |
| 16:11.35 | hrw|gone | cu |
| 16:11.47 | koen | hrw|gone: bye |
| 16:11.57 | koen | ironstorm: pm me the url and I'll put it up |
| 16:12.04 | ironstorm | hrw|gone: it's packed already... :( |
| 16:12.37 | CSMan | hi koen |
| 16:12.45 | koen | hey CSMan |
| 16:13.27 | RP | XorA, ade|desk: Changes pushed to ewi |
| 16:13.35 | CSMan | just wondering how can i add the classical ins/del/pgup/pgdown block in a gpe virtual keyboard |
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| 16:20.05 | XorA | RP: 2.6.15-rc2 doesnt seem to contain the patch to allow 921600 as a baud rate |
| 16:20.43 | koen | ~hail zecke |
| 16:20.44 | ibot | ACTION bows down to zecke and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
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| 16:22.06 | RP | XorA: What's the name of that patch? |
| 16:22.21 | XorA | RP: hrmm, .bb seems to have it in, serial-add-support-for-non-standard-xtals-to-16c950-driver.patch |
| 16:22.36 | XorA | RP: but I can no longer use setserial on my BT card |
| 16:22.58 | koen | ironstorm: do you have an url for that vmware image? |
| 16:23.03 | CSMan | koen: how safe is to update from http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/feed/ |
| 16:23.14 | koen | as safe as you want it to be |
| 16:23.54 | XorA | RP: other oddness is that is has moved from /dev/ttyS3 to /dev/ttyS0 |
| 16:24.02 | koen | heh |
| 16:24.11 | koen | has RMK been breaking serial again? |
| 16:24.21 | ironstorm | koen: yeah, I tried to pm you it... |
| 16:24.24 | RP | XorA: I suspect rmk has made changes to the serial layer which break our serial hacks |
| 16:24.41 | ironstorm | I have to register my nick I think |
| 16:24.41 | ironstorm | sec |
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| 16:25.20 | XorA | I guess /dev/ttyS0 is actually the serial port on the Z? |
| 16:28.29 | XorA | so pxa-serial-hack.patch no longer works is the guess? |
| 16:29.01 | RP | XorA: correct |
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| 16:31.10 | koen | ironstorm: could you send an email to oe@handhelds.org about the vmware image and it's possibilities? |
| 16:33.12 | ironstorm | koen: sure |
| 16:34.34 | ade|desk | RP: what was the fix, cos i just remove the CMDLINE bit from the defconfig for cxx00 ? |
| 16:34.54 | RP | ade|desk: That's the fix you need |
| 16:35.04 | ade|desk | ah ok |
| 16:35.12 | RP | I applied it to all models and merged a load of other queued stuff. You might like the led changes though |
| 16:35.31 | RP | (which I failed to mention in the changelog but did intend to merge) |
| 16:35.45 | ade|desk | RP: i'll start the build tonight, it takes a while here |
| 16:36.02 | ade|desk | or maybe wait for the rc5 ;) |
| 16:37.22 | greentux | RP: what can we do to support 921600 this time? |
| 16:41.51 | RP | greentux: Look into what rmk did to the serial layer and work out a way around it :-/ |
| 16:42.00 | RP | or better still, fix the serial layer somehow |
| 16:42.13 | XorA | RP: I am looking, most of the changes seem to be change device to platform_device |
| 16:42.29 | RP | XorA: They shouldn't make any different at all |
| 16:42.57 | XorA | RP: trying to track down the bit that decides on /dev/blah but I am unfamiliar with the code |
| 16:42.57 | RP | It'll be something smaller and serial specific |
| 16:44.25 | greentux | RP: its a pity, i had a hard fight with the BT card to get it working, and now it doesnt :( the rmk patch is necassery? |
| 16:44.29 | greentux | ~rmk |
| 16:44.30 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, rmk is Russell M. King, arm-linux maintainer, http://www.arm.linux.org.uk or ftp://ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/armlinux/source/kernel-patches/v2.4/. THE developer of ARM Linux |
| 16:44.42 | greentux | oh |
| 16:45.45 | RP | greentux: indeed - its changes out of our control and probably needed ones. We were using a hack which was called a hack for a lot of reasons... |
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| 16:47.19 | greentux | XorA: what says hciattach now? |
| 16:50.14 | XorA | greentux: BCSP initialization timed out |
| 16:50.41 | greentux | mmmh hope we are not the only guys with these BCSP chips... |
| 16:51.05 | RP | XorA: It could be a hunk of the pxa serial hack patch has gone missing... |
| 16:51.20 | RP | I know one didn't apply a while back and I thought it was no longer needed due to code changes |
| 16:52.34 | greentux | is the serial hack arm specific or should i use it on i386? |
| 16:52.50 | greentux | s/\?/too\? |
| 16:53.02 | RP | greentux: very arm pxa specific |
| 16:53.25 | RP | well, the serial hack is. The driver changes probably aren't |
| 16:53.31 | XorA | RP: the missing hunk looks info only, its a printk |
| 16:53.57 | RP | XorA: Ah, ok. I knew there was something and thought it was safe to remove... |
| 16:54.57 | greentux | ok, have to go. cu tomorrow |
| 16:54.58 | XorA | wierd and bizarre |
| 16:55.15 | XorA | my card is at /dev/ttyS3, but some printk somewhere says /dev/ttyS0 |
| 16:55.34 | XorA | just got hciattach to run |
| 16:55.42 | greentux_gone | XorA: oh... |
| 16:56.52 | greentux_gone | XorA: the trick would be to automate the setserial & hciattach -s 921600 things on insertion. dont know if possible with pcmcia framework |
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| 17:05.12 | XorA | RP: to sum up, the serial port is on /dev/ttyS3 but is report as /dev/ttyS0 in the printk that ends up in dmesg, this was what was confusing me |
| 17:06.20 | RP | XorA: Ah - so there's a printk somewhere that needs tweaking :) |
| 17:06.45 | RP | XorA: It works other than that? |
| 17:06.54 | XorA | RP: there are other problems with hciattach which were adding to the mud |
| 17:07.17 | XorA | RP: a slight increase in out of order packet errors in the logs, this makes hciattach exit |
| 17:07.30 | XorA | RP: but ive no idea what that error is caused by |
| 17:07.52 | RP | XorA: Ok, that doesn't sound like the serial hack at fault at least... |
| 17:08.03 | RP | I've never liked these hacks :-/ |
| 17:08.14 | XorA | RP: it seems the serial part works fine, *phew* the other problem with hciattach just confused the issue |
| 17:08.33 | XorA | as when I investigated I thought I had the wrong port |
| 17:10.12 | XorA | RP: the dropped hunk had the bit port->line + drv->name_base which Ill bet adds the extra 3 |
| 17:12.26 | RP | XorA: Correct. My guess is that printk is now in the core so will be difficult to update |
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| 17:27.58 | XorA | oh well off home |
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| 17:40.31 | markt_ | hey there |
| 17:40.47 | markt_ | i'm considering trying out OZ3.5.4-RC on my collie |
| 17:40.57 | markt_ | is the ramdisk problem a blocker? |
| 17:41.12 | markt_ | i can't find anything in bugs.openembedded.org about it |
| 17:41.18 | koen | ramdisk problem? |
| 17:41.19 | mickeyl | it's off-topic here, but ... what is the ramdisk problem again? |
| 17:41.30 | markt_ | "System bugs: |
| 17:41.31 | markt_ | - ramdisk not mounted on collie - I.m working on it" |
| 17:41.38 | markt_ | from openzaurus.org |
| 17:41.40 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 17:41.42 | mickeyl | heh |
| 17:41.44 | markt_ | oh, o/t sorry |
| 17:41.55 | mickeyl | yeah, it's more something for #openzaurus. |
| 17:42.09 | markt_ | ok, i'll try over there, tnx |
| 17:42.12 | mickeyl | np. |
| 17:42.38 | koen | mickeyl: it's busy building opie images for c7x0, so everything after that should use those ipkgs |
| 17:42.41 | mickeyl | ~lart fedex |
| 17:42.54 | mickeyl | *nod* |
| 17:48.19 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 17:48.23 | mickeyl | do we have sysrq on spitz? |
| 17:48.32 | mickeyl | if so, which key combination? |
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| 17:55.53 | uv1 | Good evening |
| 17:56.15 | uv1 | ping mickeyl |
| 17:56.17 | RP | mickeyl: We have - same as c7x0 but jap1 instead of jap 2 |
| 17:56.27 | RP | Ctrl Alt are shifted |
| 17:56.35 | RP | due to the spitz keyboard difference |
| 17:56.49 | mickeyl | hmm odd |
| 17:56.53 | mickeyl | that doesn't work here |
| 17:57.37 | RP | hold jap1 press home, contrinue pressing home press s to sync? |
| 17:57.59 | RP | works here :-/ |
| 17:58.06 | RP | this is 2.6, right? |
| 17:59.04 | mickeyl | urgs. ~shoot me. I was trying FN+jap1+home+<key> |
| 17:59.16 | koen | I imagine mickeyl is just wanting sysrq to see the leds light up |
| 17:59.52 | uv1 | mickeyl: My mail to mickey@handhelds.org is not send... |
| 18:00.01 | uv1 | SMTP error from remote server after RCPT command: |
| 18:00.02 | uv1 | host handhelds.org[128.31.0.25]: |
| 18:00.02 | uv1 | 450 <mickey@handhelds.org>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table |
| 18:00.14 | mickeyl | that's mickeyl, not mickey |
| 18:00.16 | koen | uv1: mickeyl@ |
| 18:00.26 | uv1 | aah, ... |
| 18:03.37 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 18:03.46 | mickeyl | mmc: unrecognised SCOR structure version 1 |
| 18:04.27 | RP | There's been an mmc patch on lkml in the last day or so which will hopefully fix the mmc errors |
| 18:04.27 | koen | iirc _law_ had that same problem |
| 18:04.41 | mickeyl | k |
| 18:04.46 | mickeyl | hmm: pcnet fails to load |
| 18:04.54 | mickeyl | due to a lot of unresolved symbols |
| 18:05.13 | markt_ | hehe, no response on #openzaurus |
| 18:05.17 | markt_ | sure is quiet over there |
| 18:05.43 | markt_ | i guess i'll either wait for an update to the oz.org site, or just go for it and give it a try at some point (with my fingers crossed :-)) |
| 18:06.08 | koen | you're in luck: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/OZ/ |
| 18:06.18 | koen | freshly built RC |
| 18:06.43 | markt_ | oooh :-D |
| 18:08.28 | markt_ | what are those images? 64-0? |
| 18:08.51 | markt_ | (forgive me if that's a stupid question) |
| 18:11.32 | mickeyl | WOW |
| 18:11.37 | mickeyl | ~praise RP for LEDs |
| 18:11.39 | ibot | All hail RP for LEDs! |
| 18:11.43 | mickeyl | now that's fun :) |
| 18:11.58 | koen | markt_: I suspect 24-0 |
| 18:12.06 | koen | ehm |
| 18:12.11 | koen | 64-0 |
| 18:12.20 | RP | mickeyl: Worth the wait? :) |
| 18:12.34 | mickeyl | RP: definitly! :) |
| 18:12.37 | markt_ | ok, thanks |
| 18:13.18 | koen | it looks like RMK hasn't thrown a fit on lkml about the patch |
| 18:13.19 | mickeyl | RP: would it be hard to add new triggers like ram-access (i.e. for ramdisks), pcmcia, and network activity? |
| 18:13.53 | RP | its depends on the subsystem code but it should be easy if its possible |
| 18:14.04 | RP | See the nand and ide patches... |
| 18:14.10 | RP | its very obvious :) |
| 18:14.13 | mickeyl | yeah, i will read these. |
| 18:14.14 | markt_ | koen: ok, i'll give that a whirl, and see what happens |
| 18:14.25 | mickeyl | RP: how does timer work, i.e. where is the time for the timer set? |
| 18:14.54 | RP | mickeyl: set the trigger to timer and a frequency entry in sysfs will appear as if by magic |
| 18:15.08 | mickeyl | aaah |
| 18:15.09 | mickeyl | woot! |
| 18:15.40 | RP | Im being called away but back later. Pleased you like it :) |
| 18:15.43 | mickeyl | now this is just cooool |
| 18:15.46 | mickeyl | k, cu |
| 18:16.15 | RP | Adding further triggers is easy - its all modular and should be easy to code |
| 18:16.33 | mickeyl | really great. I guess I will send some patches for additional triggers :)) |
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| 18:18.29 | koen | a telepathy trigger would be nice |
| 18:18.34 | mickeyl | heh |
| 18:19.04 | koen | how long will it take for someone to patch opie-mail to use the mail led? |
| 18:19.18 | mickeyl | that depends on alwin |
| 18:19.18 | CSMan | does anybody know the keystroke for pageup/down? |
| 18:19.24 | mickeyl | ~seen alwin |
| 18:19.32 | ibot | mickeyl: i haven't seen 'alwin' |
| 18:19.38 | mickeyl | ~seen ral |
| 18:19.42 | ibot | ral <n=ral@12.160.232.142> was last seen on IRC in channel #kde, 29d 22h 16m 47s ago, saying: 'Blessex: Appears that did it!'. |
| 18:20.03 | zecke | ~seen _alwin_ |
| 18:20.04 | ibot | _alwin_ <n=ralbrech@pc1126.ilo-mbc.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #opie, 6d 4h 57m 36s ago, saying: 'hi'. |
| 18:20.07 | koen | mail isn't PIM, so it shouldn't be in the images |
| 18:20.08 | mickeyl | CSMan: guess you're right |
| 18:20.10 | mickeyl | koen: :D |
| 18:20.21 | CSMan | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:20.48 | koen | ~lart *sword |
| 18:20.50 | mickeyl | CSMan: try changing the keymap, so that shift-up shift-down does something lke pageup/down |
| 18:22.00 | CSMan | .xmodmap ? |
| 18:22.11 | CSMan | hmm.. alt+u alt+d |
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| 18:30.43 | markt_ | looking good! |
| 18:32.34 | markt_ | koen: it appears to be 32-32 fwiw |
| 18:32.42 | koen | ah, ok |
| 18:32.53 | koen | it depends on what mickeyl made the default |
| 18:32.56 | markt_ | and it also appears to be ACE |
| 18:32.59 | markt_ | :-D |
| 18:33.27 | mickeyl | ACE ? |
| 18:33.35 | markt_ | as in "very very good" :-) |
| 18:33.39 | mickeyl | ah |
| 18:33.41 | mickeyl | excellent |
| 18:33.46 | markt_ | sorry, not an acronym, just me being excited |
| 18:33.47 | mickeyl | yeah, 32-32 is the default |
| 18:36.17 | koen | why not 64-0? |
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| 18:36.30 | markt_ | well, that'll do me for now, i tend to go for 48-24 |
| 18:36.43 | markt_ | erm, no |
| 18:37.09 | markt_ | i tend to go for something that adds up to 64 but gives me some ramdisk :) |
| 18:37.16 | mickeyl | koen: to make it usable for people without additional memory cards |
| 18:37.25 | mickeyl | koen: i admit it's more or less for historical reasons though |
| 18:37.41 | mickeyl | personally I'm used to 65-8 |
| 18:37.43 | mickeyl | heh |
| 18:37.46 | mickeyl | 56-8 even |
| 18:37.48 | markt_ | :-) |
| 18:38.14 | koen | if people want 32mb ram they should buy a poodle ;) |
| 18:38.32 | markt_ | hehehe |
| 18:39.23 | markt_ | normally i go for 48-16 or 40-24, just so i've got some room for apps that i want present even when switching cards |
| 18:41.32 | markt_ | hmm, 404s from ipkg |
| 18:43.38 | markt_ | ah, the feed url has changed, right? |
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| 18:47.53 | koen | mickeyl: is the vanille ciabot stuck? |
| 18:48.21 | mickeyl | lemmecheck |
| 18:49.14 | mickeyl | relaunched |
| 19:00.59 | markt_ | great work guys :-D |
| 19:01.07 | markt_ | this is working like a dream |
| 19:05.10 | CIA-1 | 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r03bfc31a... 10/: h6300.conf: use udev instead of devfs |
| 19:05.10 | CIA-1 | 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r5757e5ab... 10/: h6300 kernel: add 2.6.14.3 |
| 19:05.14 | CIA-1 | 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r0bd1aaa8... 10/: familiar 0.8.3: add seperate feed for machine specific files |
| 19:05.18 | CIA-1 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r112870d1... 10/: |
| 19:05.18 | CIA-1 | linux-oz-2.6: Add dyntick option to linux-openzaurus.inc. Update defconfigs to |
| 19:05.18 | CIA-1 | hopefully solve space issues on -git3 kernels and remove second CMDLINE option |
| 19:05.18 | CIA-1 | from the defconfigs as this breaks on recent kernel kconfig changes. |
| 19:05.33 | CIA-1 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r9b38a150... 10/: linux-oz-2.6: bump PRs |
| 19:05.36 | CIA-1 | 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * r39a77001... 10/: |
| 19:05.37 | CIA-1 | nslu2-kernel: release 2.6.15-rc5 |
| 19:05.38 | CIA-1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:05.40 | CIA-1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:05.43 | CIA-1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:06.03 | CIA-1 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r5b5b8b71... 10/: sword 1.5.8: Fix staging, inherit pkgconfig and add curl support |
| 19:06.03 | CIA-1 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r643f20dc... 10/: gtkhtml: add 3.6.2 |
| 19:06.04 | CIA-1 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r7b0b9843... 10/: gnomesword: add 2.1.2 |
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| 19:26.08 | koen | ironstorm's vmware-image containing OE can be downloaded from http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/vmware-image/ |
| 19:34.31 | markt_ | ok, i'm totally back up and running now. thanks a lot again guys. looking forward to the RC making it into R! :-) |
| 19:34.41 | markt_ | I'll feed back any bugs i find, but i haven't hit any unknown ones yet |
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| 20:08.50 | ironstorm | koen: I send an email to OE and posted on OESF @ http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=16476 |
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| 21:50.28 | koen|tv | mickeyl: the build run is almost complete: 2005-12 -- Familiar v0.8.3 -- Tentative, subject to change. |
| 21:50.32 | koen|tv | ehm |
| 21:50.36 | koen|tv | http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/OZ/ |
| 21:50.42 | koen|tv | ~lart paste buffers |
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| 21:58.59 | yann | oh, btw, we may use OE at work |
| 21:59.51 | yann | I don't know how much I am allowed to say, but I'll be sure to say what I'm allowed when the time comes :) |
| 22:00.08 | CosmicPenguin | Not that this is super secret stuff |
| 22:00.25 | yann | eh :) |
| 22:04.28 | yann | the main problem being that being behind a fascist firewall does not make it comfortable to use OE - I'll try to build a cache of cvs tarballs... |
| 22:05.02 | koen|tv | someone posted a script to work with the diffs to oe@ a week ago |
| 22:05.34 | koen|tv | http://handhelds.org/hypermail/oe/46/4635.html <- that one |
| 22:08.00 | koen | the effect of starting an OE build on 11:30: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/rrd/graph/disk_free-home_86400.png |
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| 22:19.25 | yann | koen: my problem is not so much fetching OE snapshots, as fetching all sources referenced by OE |
| 22:19.56 | koen | I see |
| 22:21.19 | CosmicPenguin | wow - your firewall restricts http too? |
| 22:21.41 | yann | I'll be overusing mirror definitions, and that feature to declare a place storing cvs snapshots, but I expect to have to change other things |
| 22:23.05 | yann | CosmicPenguin: yes - in fact it is closer from wire-walling than fire-walling, I cannot even download a file without going to a box seperated from the company lan |
| 22:23.22 | yann | extremely unproductive paranoia |
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| 22:25.06 | yann | btw, anyone would have highlights of how bitbake+OE compares to commercial things like PCS builder (shipped by metrowerks) |
| 22:25.21 | yann | (in case someone asks me) |
| 22:26.07 | koen | no idea |
| 22:26.08 | yann | looks like the primary win of OE is the ability to easily trace what exact versions are used |
| 22:26.12 | koen | I never used PCS |
| 22:26.28 | yann | but I'm not sure I'll have time to dig much into PCS |
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