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00:08.48CoreDump|homeNOTE: package libmimedir-0.3.1+cvs-20060102: completed
00:10.05hrwCoreDump|home: with branch one or patched?
00:10.15CoreDump|homepached
00:10.23CoreDump|homefrom oe bug notes
00:10.57hrwI will probably try during next days new fresh build
00:11.48hrwI'm bit tired of that 3.5.4 releasing.. it's over 9 months already
00:12.12CoreDump|homehttp://pastebin.ca/37918
00:12.16CoreDump|homehrw: =)
00:13.20hrwCoreDump|home: I know - I wrote that patch
00:13.49CoreDump|homethat's a diff against branch
00:14.18hrwso your branch is a bit old
00:14.43CoreDump|homenope, few hours old actually
00:15.01hrwhttp://pastebin.com/516826 is branch one
00:17.12ljpzecke: motorola started ezx years ago, before qtopia phone was even a thought. that is why they havent used qtopia phone. Archos has very specific needs, more than qtopia pda can provide them.
00:18.42zeckeljp: ah so my interpreation about this archos mail is right?
00:19.42CoreDump|homemehhh
00:20.11zeckecg-log does not work with bsd date :}
00:20.15CoreDump|homehrw: well my copy is a few hours old. that version of yours was checked in 4hrs ago lol
00:20.35hrwCoreDump|home: always try with latest source they said...
00:20.56zeckeljp: even if you don't believe it, I want Qtopia to succeed
00:21.02zeckeljp: but it will be a tough way
00:23.16hrw59 zaurus machines in my spreadsheet.. plus few extra which I do not have in it..
00:24.19hrwone day I will drop zaurus line and get normal portrait pda
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00:28.10zeckeRP: oegit is reachable?
00:28.15zeckeah okay
00:28.34RPzecke: yes
00:29.05RPzecke: Have you managed to merge the branch in?
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00:29.31zeckeRP: no I'm searching git version of 776f76fe495350009610233da25b36aa5c732d3f
00:29.47zeckefrom 27th of August (but my BSD date is not liked by git log)
00:30.13zeckeRP: I would start with the oz354 branch and then pull anything in from head
00:30.30zeckehttp://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/revision.psp?id=4f334b998e314ddeafc3f90045f463639dc8bb74
00:30.32RPcommit 1e2bf5270c6510c14e523733a278873a3f00b19f
00:30.32RPAuthor: tailor <jbowler@nslu2-linux.org>
00:30.32RPDate:   Mon Sep 26 23:18:06 2005 +0200
00:30.33RP<PROTECTED>
00:30.33RP<PROTECTED>
00:30.41zeckethanks
00:30.45RPI was one step ahead...
00:30.53RPbut it still didn't merge cleanly :-/
00:31.17zeckeuse 'use head' merging strategy
00:31.39zeckebut how does refspec work?
00:32.28RPrefspec?
00:32.34zeckeI'm demanded to go to bed
00:32.44zeckeman git-pull
00:32.53zeckestart:end
00:32.53RPI'm also too tired to think about this properly :)
00:33.27hrwgit... there is qgit so it will be easier to look/filter through it..
00:33.41zeckeneed to go to bed...
00:33.44zeckecya tomorrow
00:34.10RPzecke: same here. 'night!
00:34.45Penduhrw: any word?
00:35.29hrwPendu: ?
00:35.35Penduabout the feed
00:35.44PenduI gave you my email addy last time we talked
00:36.06hrwah.. Pendalar - sorry
00:37.33Pendalars'ok =-) just didn't want it to go to waste
00:38.10Pendalarpoo wyvern server is down
00:39.13PendalarI know I should probably look to the mailing list but with moving and a new baby I can't really keep up with it
00:39.20Pendalarand hence pester you =-)
00:39.30hrwok - nothing changed ;(
00:39.41Pendalarwas it even debated?
00:39.45Pendalaror just ignored altogether
00:40.10hrwtried to get it debated, was ignored
00:40.18Pendalar-_-
00:40.52emtehmm
00:41.07emteprismstumbler seems to have issues i think ...
00:41.15Pendalar>>OZ.PDAI.ORG     50G transfer, 1.75G diskspace
00:41.32Pendalaroutdated and unusable..
00:43.10Pendalaris there someone I should pester specifically hrw?
00:44.48hrwkoen, mickeyl
00:45.14hrwkoen as admin of ewi (main server), mickeyl as OZ main boss
00:46.03Pendalarit's been some months but I thought mickeyl told me to talk to you.. prob mistaken
00:46.08Pendalarwhat's your official status now?
00:46.18hrwnearly release manager
00:46.29Pendalarthat's make sense then
00:46.45Pendalarbecause I need access to the releases and feeds more so than the webpages
00:47.42ljpzecke: qtopia _is_ succeeding http://www.ehomeupgrade.com/entry/2011/phillips_vp-5500_voip
00:47.44hrwthats why I posted mail to oz-devel, you, koen in 2005-11-25. to get info who need what..
00:48.24Pendalarbefore it was a bit more simple
00:48.35Pendalarjust had access to oz @ sf account
00:49.10ljphmm. try this one http://www.press.ce.philips.com/apps/c_dir/e3379701.nsf/0/053DF324F0787E8BC12570590046EB64?opendocument
00:49.31PendalarI want linux on my axim =-(
00:49.39Pendalaror get my TS fixed on my sl5500
00:50.21hrwre
00:50.28hrwfscking machine died again ;(
00:51.07hrwPendalar: I want stable desktop machine ;(
00:51.23Pendalarwindows?
00:51.27hrwlinux
00:51.36hrwrather hardware problems
00:51.59Pendalarthe only problem I've had with linux locking up was the first box I had .. had faulty usb hardware on the front port
00:52.10hrwbut when I think which I should change in this box I quickly run out of ideas
00:52.19Pendalarit'd fail to completely boot about every other time, but once I figured it out and disabled.. was good
00:52.28Pendalarwhat is it doing?
00:52.41hrwPendalar: here if usb die in kernel machine works
00:53.01hrwPendalar: from time to time hang hardly - even SysRq does not help
00:53.30PendalarI assume you blow it out from time to time
00:53.52Pendalarsooo.. overheating or power box maybe?
00:55.07hrwPendalar: and that the miracle... with one psu it is loud but <50C on cpu. with another its quieter, cpu goes to 60C
00:55.14hrwhangs in both situations
00:55.44Pendalarhmm..
00:55.57hrwI do not want to exchange case to be able to add some fans in front
00:56.13Pendalardoes it freeze randomly or are you always doing the same thing when it happens?
00:56.34hrwrandom and it does not even have to be 100% cpu
00:57.16PendalarI assume when this happens you can't ssh in from remote..
00:57.25hrwand ofcourse under linux I do not have an option to get dmesg after reboot ;( (or does not found a way for it)
00:57.37hrwPendalar: its totally died then
00:57.55Pendalarhow often does this happen?
00:58.17hrwsometimes few per hour, sometime few per day
00:58.26emtehrw does your case have usb in the fron and are they connected?
00:58.32emtefront*
00:58.39Pendalaris it a compaq? heh
00:59.14hrwemte: it has, and they are connected to mainboard via 10 wires wide cable - each pin separatelly connected to mainboard
00:59.26emtehrw, try disconnecting them
00:59.30hrwPendalar: its no-brand-aq
00:59.47emtethere seems to be a well know issue of problems with them including random lockups
00:59.56hrwemte: nice idea - too bad that I connect '8-in-1' card read to them
01:00.10emtenone on the back?
01:00.35Pendalaryeah seriously.. buy you a hub and put in the back ports
01:00.48hrwemte: back has 4 but is under desk and I have >10 cables at back
01:01.32emtebuy a keyboard with a hub in it?
01:01.34emte:)
01:01.53hrwpower, mouse, keyboard, collie cradle, ethernet, tv cable, tv remote, tv sound to soundcard loop, few power supplies, vga cable, vga power
01:02.03PendalarI have about 40 because 2 of my comps are stacked
01:02.15hrwemte: microsoft does not made 'natural media keyboard' with hub ;(
01:02.28emteeww
01:02.36Pendalarhrw anyways is it dual boot or just linux?
01:02.54hrwI have desktop under desk + router/AP, cablemodem, subwoofer
01:03.00hrwPendalar: I use only linux
01:03.05emtehmm
01:03.19emteanuone use a linksys wireless G card?
01:03.26emteon thier pda
01:03.30PendalarI have most of that + dell pda cradle + PAP2/phone
01:03.36Pendalarand lava lamps..
01:03.37hrwemte: I use that ergonomic keyboard(s) since Feb05
01:04.19hrwPendalar: how does pap2 works? I was thinking about voip and pap2 looks like cheapest solution without having computer running
01:04.33Pendalarit's a gateway
01:04.42Pendalarethernet->pap2->regular phone
01:04.45hrwemte: Agere based one?
01:04.47Pendalarjust handles the proxy info etc
01:05.02emtenot sure ... its a WCF54G
01:05.07PendalarI have some linksys wifi CF in a drawer.. use a socket one now
01:05.08hrwPendalar: I meant - does it do it well?
01:05.18PendalarWCF11 or something don't remember
01:05.23emtenone of the drivers in familiar seem to run it correctly
01:05.31Pendalarit depends on your provider and the pap2 is locked for vonage
01:05.33hrwPendalar: wcf11 is b one
01:05.39Pendalarunless you are willing to hack / unlock it
01:05.53hrwPendalar: I would rather buy non-branded one here
01:06.02PendalarI've personally never used vonage, but the provider I use.. which is in california.. I'm in GA
01:06.04Pendalarsounds perfect
01:06.06emteyou could just buy a linksys/cisco one
01:06.11emteunder $40
01:06.19Pendalarbut then again I get to use the highest grade codec, which I wouldn't with vonage
01:06.29hrwemte: you probably need Agere driver - hard to automate
01:06.37PendalarI did have a cisco ip phone, it was bulky and non-wireless.. trashed it
01:06.46emtehrw, page/instructions exist?
01:07.10hrwemte: yep - google for '0x0156 0x0003 pcmcia'
01:07.20Pendalarthis is hooked up with a 5.8GHz phone .. the codec I use is a lower bandwidth but higher quality
01:07.21emtePendalar, the standalone you use with a reg phone?
01:07.26hrwPendalar: does 170kbps upload will be enough?
01:07.47emtehrw, valid for CF as well?
01:07.51Pendalaryes, and should be depending on codec
01:08.09hrwemte: it handle pci and pcmcia
01:08.15hrwemte: and CF == pcmcia
01:08.18PendalarI can be downloading on my other 2 boxes and on the phone, don't notice
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01:08.36Pendalarmy codec supposedly only pulls like 8k because of the compression
01:09.01Pendalarit's hooked up to some bud's  * network in cali
01:09.03hrwok. first have to buy any headset to test how does it works with softphone
01:09.34Pendalarit doesn't work with softphones I assume
01:09.38hrwok. goes to sleep - 02:10 here
01:09.45emtehrw, just asking because the pcmcia stuff no longer works in familiar
01:09.45Pendalarit's got a rj45 in and 2 rj11's out
01:09.53emteatleast for my sleeve
01:10.21hrwPendalar: first I have to test voip at all, then select good provider for voip, then go to buyin pap2 and connect normal phone for it
01:10.34hrwemte: h3600?
01:10.40Pendalarthere's a few free providers but you have to call "in network"
01:10.45emtehrw, yeah
01:10.56Pendalarlike stanaphone .. gizmo project
01:11.17Pendalarthis custom I can call them, stanaphone, vonage (sometimes), and others
01:11.26hrwemte: friend has h3870 + pcmcia/battery sleeve and complain a lot about kernels used in familiar 0.8.2+
01:11.34Pendalaroh hrw before you go
01:11.44Pendalaryou could do a simple bash script for your problem
01:11.50Pendalarassuming you do get a dmesg entry
01:12.02Pendalarevery so many minutes dmesg > file
01:12.12Pendalarmake a trigger for if it reboots, stop
01:12.13emtehrw, 0.8.2 works fine for me
01:12.20emte0.8.3 has huge issues
01:12.29emtenot only with pcmcia
01:12.35Pendalaryou could do it every so many seconds to track the problem
01:12.38hrwPendalar: most of calls I have not in network - I have free hours after 20:00 + free weekends (pay extra monthly)
01:12.46Pendalarwith any luck, you'll capture the last dmesg
01:13.02hrwPendalar: and have to do it to 'sync' mounted media
01:13.48Pendalarthere might be a better way to do it, but that would work
01:13.52hrwthx for idea - will try
01:14.04hrwhave a nice day/night
01:14.07Pendalartc
01:14.19hrw~tv
01:14.24ibotmethinks tv is modprobe bttv msp3400 tuner; wmtvmotv
01:14.24hrw~tc
01:14.26ibottc is probably the Debian Test Cycle  Trafic Control, a program for defining QoS rules in 2.4 (backported?), or in iproute package.
01:14.40hrwbye
01:15.06Pendalarah also get freeworlddialup access on this, not that I know anyone on it
01:15.15Pendalarer
01:15.18Pendalarit means take care
01:16.35emtehrw|gone, before you go, what is the issue with Agere ?
01:16.45emtethe posts say the source is availible
01:18.41emtehmm
01:18.46emteBug solved with latest updates pcmcia-cs 3.2.7-2.1 and kernel 2.6.9-1.724_FC3.
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01:40.52emtewell this is silly ...
01:41.09emtewhy is wlan not built for anything besides the 4700?
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02:19.51rwhitbyzecke or koen|sleep: can you do a git-update-server-info in http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/other_scms/git/org.nslu2-linux.dev/ ?
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02:51.17Borealidhello
02:53.03BorealidI have a few questions about the packages in the org.openembedded.dev tree
02:53.16BorealidI'm a Zaurus user, with a borzoi
02:53.30Borealidand I can't seem to figure out a way to build an X kdepimpi
02:53.46Borealidnor any version of mplayer not using QT
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04:40.23luke-jr_RP: !!! ping
04:40.48luke-jr_RP: apparently, C760 has a builtin mic
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06:49.33franceibot: seen kergoth
06:49.42ibotkergoth <n=kergoth@c-24-118-213-150.hsd1.mn.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel ##ace, 10d 2h 8m 44s ago, saying: 'no doubt'.
06:50.11Pendalarerr.. did he move again?
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07:00.10emteno
07:00.12emtenew job
07:00.22emtesome exo-skeleton company
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07:42.12gremlin[it]hi to all ...
07:42.37gremlin[it]does someone have try to build familiar-devel for h3600 (kernel 2.4)
07:43.32gremlin[it]i got this error :
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07:43.46gremlin[it]ERROR: Nothing provides (2.4.19-rmk6-pxa1-hh37)
07:43.47gremlin[it]ERROR: dependency (2.4.19-rmk6-pxa1-hh37) (for alsa-driver) not satisfied
07:44.32gremlin[it]it's normal it state just '2.4.19-rmk6-pxa1-hh37' and not 'kernel_2.4.19-...' ???
07:56.16emtefamiliar dev builds fine
07:57.04emteas well you may want to check that your not building a 2.6 kernel if you have 2.4 deps
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08:16.13Mardyhi all
08:16.51NAiLmorning ;)
08:17.57gremlin[it]emte sure i'm building 2.4 and i what wipe out all my changes ...
08:18.19emteodd
08:18.26emtei never had an issue with that
08:18.38emtebuilt it yesterday
08:19.29gremlin[it]but is normal bitbake state '2.4.19-rmk6-pxa1-hh37' without kernel in head ?
08:19.47emteyeah i'd expect so
08:19.52emteits just a message
08:20.03gremlin[it]mhh ok ...
08:20.08gremlin[it]i try to check again ...
08:20.16emteif you want anything useful look in the log files
08:20.34emteas opposed to what it generates as an error messgae
08:20.44emtemessage*
08:23.04gremlin[it]ok
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08:31.46Mardybtw: "kopete" in the dialect of my region means "kill yourself!" :-)
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08:39.12gremlin[it]again -> ERROR: Nothing provides (2.4.19-rmk6-pxa1-hh37)
08:40.13gremlin[it]but kernel and modules .ipkg are built !!!
09:16.38CIA-403jbowler 07org.oe.dev * rb83ce79d... 10/ (9 files in 5 dirs):
09:16.39CIA-4ixp4xx-kernel: new LED driver in 2.6.15.1
09:16.39CIA-4slugos-init: update for new LED support in 0.10
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09:16.42CIA-4<PROTECTED>
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09:56.02Bernardogood morning
09:56.02gremlin[it]NOTE: bb.build.FuncFailed:("can't read from file '%s' (%s)", ('/mnt/hda/oe/build/tmp/staging/h3600-linux/kernel/kernel-abiversion', <exceptions.IOError instance at 0x2aaaaeb36b48>)) while evaluating:
09:56.03gremlin[it]${@base_read_file('/mnt/hda/oe/build/tmp/staging/h3600-linux/kernel/kernel-abiversion')}
09:56.21gremlin[it]any clue ?
09:57.04jbowler-awaybad bitbake version?
09:57.35gremlin[it]mhh as i think i'm doinf svn update now ...
09:58.00jbowler-awayI believe that will happen with any version <334
09:59.37gremlin[it]i'm 336 now
10:01.44koen|sleepgood morning all
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10:02.13gremlin[it]good morning koen ;)
10:02.18koenhey gremlin[it]
10:02.44koenRP: do you need a sshv1 or sshv2 key for git?
10:02.58RPluke-jr_: I've never heard of the c760 having an inbuild mic before...
10:03.13RPkoen: sshv2 please although I can manage with v1 :)
10:03.27hrwhi
10:04.03hrwkoen: we would need to talk about mirroring OZ from ewi to mirrors
10:04.48RPhi hrw
10:05.01RPmorning all btw :)
10:05.16hrwRP: how can I get git tree from ewi?
10:05.44Bernardohi RP, koen, hrw
10:05.50koenhey Bernardo & hrw
10:05.52RPhrw: You have git installed?
10:05.52hrwhi Jose
10:06.00hrwRP: git, cogito
10:06.30hrwwant to test qgit on something other then kernel
10:06.38RPhrw: Something like "git clone http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/other_scms/git/org.openembedded.dev someplace"
10:07.06hrw~lart Debian maintainer of git for lack of deps
10:07.09RPhrw: and/or send me an ssh key and I can give you access to oegit.rpsys.net (anonymous access isn't sorted yet)
10:07.21hrw/usr/bin/git-clone: line 26: curl: command not found
10:07.38hrwRP: ok
10:08.08hrwfetching.
10:09.17hrwRP: sent
10:10.47rwhitbyRP is oegit.rpsys.net a unidirectional or bidirectional mirror of monotone?
10:10.59hrwRP: how long it takes to fetch git tree first time?
10:11.40RPhrw: However long it takes you to download ~150MB of data
10:12.36RPrwhitby: Unidirectional unless zecke can talk his conversion program into running the other way
10:13.05rwhitbyok, so is anyone relying on that repo, or can it be used for testing random pushes?
10:13.21hrwRP: ok
10:13.24RPrwhitby: I'll probably add an experimental branch we can mess around with commits yet continue to import history
10:13.36hrwgot it
10:13.40rwhitbyRP: ok, may I send you an ssh key?
10:13.47RPrwhitby: feel free
10:14.25RPrwhitby: It only contains .dev at the moment but we're working on importing the other branches
10:14.54RPrwhitby: I'm not too worried about breaking it as worst case we throw it again and start properly if we do switch to git
10:15.14rwhitbyRP: I only need oe.dev, and zecke has converted o.n-l.dev
10:15.44koenwhat is the recommended version of git?
10:15.51koenkoen@bitbake:~/OE/git$ git --version
10:15.51koengit version 1.0.6
10:16.57RPrwhitby: We really need to merge o.n-l.dev and the oz/fam release branch into one git repository but I'm working on this
10:17.14RPkoen: I'm using a snapshot from 20060118
10:17.32CIA-403jbowler 07org.oe.dev * rbf04667b... 10/packages/linux/ (11 files in 2 dirs): ixp4xx-kernel: merge in changes from CVS to 2.6.15.1
10:17.33rwhitbyRP: o.n-l.dev is not analogous to o.oe.dev - it's the nslu2-linux MasterMakefile and about 7 other files only.
10:17.54rwhitbynslu2-linux uses org.oe.dev directly for OE files
10:18.38rwhitbywe also have an org.nslu2-linux.bitbake monotone branch, in which we keep the bitbake that matches the head of org.openembedded.dev
10:18.59rwhitby(so you can pull both with the one monotone pull and two updates)
10:19.35RPrwhitby: Ah, I understand. They sound like they might be separate repositorys then
10:19.59RP(in git terms)
10:20.28rwhitbyyes, org.nslu2-linux.dev would be a separate repository from org.openembedded.dev
10:20.41rwhitby(and zecke has done that)
10:20.53rwhitbyhttp://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/other_scms/git/org.nslu2-linux.dev/
10:20.58RPok, so it looks like I just need to merge the oz/fam branch in...
10:21.20rwhitbyyeah, all nslu2-linux stuff is always merged.
10:24.46hrwsomeone tried xfce-image on device recently?
10:25.31koenhrw: I only tried the xfce stuff inside gpe-image
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10:27.12IfaistosGreetings !
10:28.36IfaistosI am trying to build oe for x86 but it looks like glibc is broken during the toolchain compile
10:29.19Ifaistostried a newer glibc as was suggested in some messages but still does not work. any ideas ?
10:31.02hrwe-image is totally broken in branch
10:32.37RPhrw, koen, rwhitby : Keys should all be added and working
10:32.45koenRP: thanks
10:33.19koenis there a git frasebook to make monotone command to git commands?
10:33.25pb___Ifaistos: it's difficult to make suggestions without knowing what the actual problem is.
10:33.26RPkoen: Not yet :)
10:33.37RPkoen: We need to start one :)
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10:34.47Ifaistospb: that's true :p
10:34.49RPkoen: I'll make a start on a page
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10:35.23Ifaistosshould i post the build results here or is there a flood bot ?
10:35.40RP~pastebin
10:35.46ibotpastebin is, like, a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/, or http://pastebin.ca
10:37.31Ifaistoshttp://pastebin.com/517254
10:37.56CIA-403hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rb0b92ccb... 10/packages/dbh/dbh_1.0-18.bb:
10:37.56CIA-4dbh: fix staging
10:37.57CIA-4taken from .dev
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10:38.26rwhitbyRP: thx
10:38.44pb___Ifaistos: I think 20050917 only works if you select nptl rather than linuxthreads
10:40.15Ifaistosi found a message related to this
10:40.18Ifaistoshttp://www.nabble.com/building-OE-on-Fedora-Core-4-t360150.html
10:41.27Ifaistosso in the process i made my first .bb :)
10:41.35pb___Ifaistos: heh
10:41.45pb___try adding GLIBC_ADDONS = "nptl" to your local.conf, see if that helps
10:42.15pb___might need GLIBC_EXTRA_OECONF = "--with-tls"
10:42.16pb___<PROTECTED>
10:44.46Ifaistoslet me give it a try...
10:46.55RPhrw, koen, rwhitby: http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/GitScmTrial?action=show
10:47.34RPI've added some example commands there. Keep in mind I don't understand git myself ;-)
10:49.04RPEventually, I'll probably switch to git-shell as the default shell on the server but for now, I'll leave it as bash
10:49.21RPback shortly...
10:51.52rwhitbyare people using git-core or cogito ?
10:52.24koenunable to write sha1 filename ./objects/13/7a7a8a0b842a6391312642ba8058a42463cf68: Permission denied
10:52.28koenfatal: failed to write object
10:52.44koenwhen doing git push ssh://koen@oegit.rpsys.net/home/oegit --all
10:56.03rwhitbyRP, koen: added a shortcut to the wiki page for pulling from different remotes
10:56.17rwhitbye.g.: git pull rpsys
10:56.18koencool, thanks
10:57.14rwhitbythat pulls rpsys's repo into an rpsys branch
10:57.33rwhitbyNot 100% sure about the "Pull: " line
10:59.15Ifaistosbtw guys. I made some notes on what packages you need on amd64/ubuntu to get oe going.
10:59.59Ifaistosshould i put them on the wiki or is it too specific ?
11:00.23koenthe wiki would be fine
11:02.08koenRP: any idea why the push would fail?
11:03.59koenRP: I suspect I lack write permissions to /home/oegit
11:09.37RPkoen: You are a member of the group and the group should have write access...
11:11.19RPkoen: Ah, my push means the g+w bit was lost. I think we need to do something with the umask
11:13.21Ifaistospb: it now fails while build glibc-intermediate
11:13.26Ifaistoshttp://pastebin.com/517282
11:13.30rwhitbyRP: there's something about +x on the update hook
11:13.36rwhitbylet me find it ...
11:15.38rwhitbyyep, chmod +x /home/oegit/.git/hooks/update
11:17.20rwhitbySee Advanced Shared Repository Management in http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/tutorial.html
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11:19.29rwhitbyhmm - that might be post-update instead
11:21.27pb___Ifaistos: oh dear.  you'll have to inspect the configure script to find out what version of gcc it wants.
11:21.32pb___it might be happier with 3.4 rather than 4.0
11:26.12Ifaistospb : thanks. it looks like it :(
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11:31.44koenRP: ok, first push seems to have worked :)
11:31.53koenRP: you wouldn't have any gitweb running, would you?
11:33.22RPkoen: not yet. I have that in mind though
11:35.14RPkoen: I think I just need to add umask 775 to the .profile's of users...
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11:35.29Ifaistosone more question :)
11:35.45Ifaistosthe BBFILES line should be like this ?
11:35.49IfaistosBBFILES:= ${HOME}/oe/org.openembedded.dev/packages/*/*.bb
11:36.03pb___looks about right, yeah
11:36.11Ifaistosthis is for the local.conf
11:37.17Ifaistosis there a way to scan only arch specific stuff ? now its something like 3000+ files ...
11:38.07pb___no, not really
11:39.10Ifaistosi think i need to switch to a type of coffee that takes longer to make :)
11:39.50pb___heh
11:43.22RPok, permissions should be ok now
11:45.31Ifaistoslet's say that i get oe to build for the x86. How should the patches be applied upstream so that they don;t break other archs ?
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11:45.56Ifaistosbasicaly how do i make them arch specific
11:46.57gremlin[it]grrr error again : NOTE: bb.build.FuncFailed:("can't read from file '%s' (%s)", ('/mnt/hda/oe/build/tmp/staging/h3600-linux/kernel/kernel-abiversion', <exceptions.IOError instance at 0x2aaaaeaa5f80>)) while evaluating:
11:46.57gremlin[it]${@base_read_file('/mnt/hda/oe/build/tmp/staging/h3600-linux/kernel/kernel-abiversion')}
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11:48.44hrwre
11:48.53koenhrw: wb
11:49.00gremlin[it]hi pH5 hrw
11:49.31gremlin[it]mhhh i don't have any kernel-abyversion file !!!
11:52.27gremlin[it]mhhh i don't have any kernel-abiversion file !!!
11:52.37pb___!!!!!
11:52.37cdbotpb___: Don't know, don't care
11:52.49pb___tch
11:53.27gremlin[it]iihihhii :)
11:54.21gremlin[it]what i can do ... i alreasy update bitbake and oe :( ...
11:55.22pb___dunno.  it sounds like kernel.bbclass must be busted in some way.
11:56.05gremlin[it]i never touch it  :( :(
11:59.45RPIt sounds like some module is attempting to build before the kernel itself
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12:01.15pb___all the modules (theoretically) depend on virtual/kernel, so that shouldn't be possible
12:04.36CoreDump|homehi
12:04.50hrwhi CoreDump|home
12:07.48pH5hi everyone
12:12.09gremlin[it]i completelly wipe out tmp dir .. so i'm sure i don't have something strange ....
12:16.13gremlin[it]last packege build is linux-hotplug ...
12:16.34hrwcu
12:16.39gremlin[it]but i can't figure out what is the package that fail :(
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12:21.34zeckemickey|dinner: I have my flight booked
12:22.02koenzecke: cool
12:23.07pb___zecke: rock.  what time do you arrive?
12:23.31zeckepb___: 22h on friday :}
12:23.51koenzecke: in time to enjoy some Leffe :)
12:24.44pb___okay, very good.  at Charleroi, or some other airport?
12:24.58zeckegood question
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12:26.08zeckepb___: Brussel International Airport (BRU)
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12:26.50pb___ah cool
12:27.13pb___BRU is much nearer to the city centre than CRL
12:29.35pb___so, yeah, you should arrive early enough that mickeyl will not yet have consumed all the Leffe
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12:45.29zeckeRP: did I just push some refs?
12:48.51koenzecke: I just noticed that I can't say 'qt/e sucks' anymore
12:49.07koenI now have to say 'qtopia-core sucks'
12:50.56zeckekoen: "X [Windowing System] is braindamaged" Steve Jobs at USENIX conference :}
12:51.40RPzecke: yes
12:51.55RPzecke: Well, some objects and you updates master
12:51.58zeckeRP: did you have any luck with merging the branch
12:52.26koenwow
12:52.30koengit is way to chatty
12:52.38RPzecke: I've not tried again yet
12:52.52zeckeRP: what is master and what is origin?
12:53.08RPzecke: I'm fighting gitweb atm. The machine doesn't have perl :)
12:53.55RPzecke: I think origin is a pointer to where the tree originally came from (who its parent is)
12:54.07zeckehow do I switch branches?
12:54.42RPzecke: checkout -b xyz I think
12:59.38zeckeRP: could you give me the objectid of the branch point again?
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13:12.52RPzecke: 1e2bf5270c6510c14e523733a278873a3f00b19f
13:13.06RPzecke: http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/GitScmTrial?action=show
13:13.12RPzecke: Add notes :)
13:13.25zeckeRP: doing a checkout for the branch at the branch point
13:18.05koenand please add your experiences to http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/GitScmTrial
13:19.06koenzecke: what scms can we test atm?
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13:20.19zeckekoen: darcs as well
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13:20.41koenzecke: is ghc buildable in OE?
13:20.45zeckekoen: if mithro finds a way to resolve the tunnel issue I will have a darcs server as well
13:20.51zeckekoen: dunno
13:20.52koenzecke: if not, we can skip the test all together
13:21.03mithrozecke: whats the tunnel issue?
13:21.32zeckemithro: the tunnel didn't get back up?
13:21.32koenzecke: there's no point in testing stuff we can't use
13:21.39koen(we = nslu2 in this case)
13:21.51zeckekoen: well we can add it...
13:21.52mithrozecke: the tunnel appears to be up
13:22.27mithrothe uml appears dead however
13:22.33zeckeRP: merging seems hard as well
13:22.44zeckemithro: yes it is halted or such
13:23.12mithrowhat cause it to halt?
13:23.20mithrodid you resize your terminal?
13:23.32mithroUML's dont like it when you do that
13:23.39koenLOL
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13:25.17RPhttp://oegit.rpsys.net:8000/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi
13:26.21koenhmmm
13:26.26zeckeRP: hmm
13:26.28koengit uses a bogus author
13:26.42mithrokoen: well it doesn't handle the SIG that is sent on terminal resize
13:27.02gremlin[it]no way all time same error ... what u need to trace this issue ?
13:27.23mithrozecke: do you want to kill it and restart?
13:27.30zeckemithro: will do
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13:31.17mithrobtw darcs is getting git backend support....
13:34.36zeckemithro: I need to create some slides first (I need to turn in them tomorrow)
13:36.33zeckeRP: what is the difference between git fetch and pull?
13:37.00koenzecke: git fetch sends a mail to Larry to lart him
13:37.06RPzecke: pull = fetch+merge?
13:37.34zeckekoen: what is git lart-larry then
13:37.56koenzecke: the same, but with a signed-off by: line
13:41.21gremlin[it]please take a look : http://pastebin.com/517412
13:42.53zeckehmm
13:43.32CoreDump|homeis there any documentation for keylaunch / keylaunchrc beside the readme?
13:45.58CoreDump|homegot it, nm
13:50.52koenheh
13:51.12CoreDump|homewhat the hell, couldn't make it harder to at xmodmaps
13:51.40CoreDump|homenow I need to check gpe.bbclass just to find out where the damn thing is downloaded from
13:52.23CoreDump|homeand every xmodmap for every device is installed into the rootfs?
13:53.55koenCoreDump|home: add the keymap and adjust Xinit.d/12keymap
13:54.00koenthat isn't too hard, right?
13:55.15CoreDump|homeit isn't hard but it's annyoing to read a bbclass just to find out how to do such a trivial thing
13:55.23koen?
13:55.26CoreDump|homethe .bb is basically empty
13:55.43CoreDump|homeadds somepatches, no do_install etc
13:55.55koenwhy would you need to read a .bbclass?
13:56.06zeckeRP: do you have limited bandwidth?
13:56.29hrwhi
13:56.31pb___zecke: no, he _is_ the internet
13:56.46CoreDump|homeplease look at the .bb... it's useless in its current form if you do not want to redo it completly
13:57.29CoreDump|homeeverything is done through "inherit" gpe
13:57.42koenthat's the point of classes
13:58.25koenthe easiest way is to make a modmap and send it to Florian
13:58.28CoreDump|hometold ya, need to study the bbclass to do anything with that bb
13:58.39hrwpb___: question about GPE bugs in OE bugtracker: should reporters be pointed to GPE bugtracker and bugs closed as INVALID or should those bugs be re-assigned to gpe@handhelds.org or other way?
13:59.04koenhrw: half of them are matchbox bugs and should go into o-hand bugzilla
13:59.06hrwCoreDump|home: bbclasses are to make recipes simploer
13:59.15CoreDump|homeI understand that
13:59.35CoreDump|homebut unless you know the bbclass inside out, they make them harder to modify / adjust
13:59.42hrwkoen: yep - but now I ask about gpe bugs like #627
13:59.46CoreDump|homewhich was my point =)
14:00.26koenCoreDump|home: that's not true, you want to add a patch, so you don't needs to read the .bbclass, just a SRC_URI +=
14:00.37pb___hrw: I don't recommend closing them as INVALID, since this would be unfriendly to the reporters.  Assigning them to the person who maintains the appropriate .bb files is probably the right answer.
14:00.53koenheh
14:00.54hrwok - best way
14:01.01koennot according to reenoo
14:01.22koenbut I won't make any further comments on that
14:01.44pb___what would be even better is finding out how to transfer them to the handhelds.org bugzilla, but I don't know how to do that.
14:02.02CoreDump|homekoen: I want to add a new file, not a patch against an existing one. While this _could_ be done with a patch, this is surely the worst way to do it in OE. Not to mention that the bbclass installs every xmodmap for every machine into every rootfs=)
14:02.15koen~lart canonical for not opening malone
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14:02.43CoreDump|homeanyways, I'll write the xmodmap and send it to florian as you suggested
14:02.52koenhrw: #627 is actually an OZ bug
14:03.04pb___CoreDump|home: "SRC_URI += ..." is also the correct way to add new files.  They don't have to be patches.
14:03.22reenookoen: marking valid bugs as invalid is impolite by definition. and again, stop talking shit behind my back
14:03.35CoreDump|homeSRC_URI is useless if you do not know how do_install works in the bbclass
14:03.46zeckeRP: how do I do a merge without knowing the revs?
14:04.00pb___that's true, but the .bbclass isn't a large or complicated file.  It doesn't seem unreasonable that you need to read it.
14:04.09hrwre after rebot
14:04.49CoreDump|homeMakes thing more complicated for outsiders. That was the whole point I was trying to make.
14:04.59hrwkoen: how to resolve that?
14:05.12pb___fair enough
14:05.18koenhrw: take a look at the familiar-version.bb
14:05.30hrwkoen: will do
14:05.37ar_hi, have problems in bitbake bootstrap-image in org.oe.oz354fam083
14:05.45ar_NOTE: Task failed: Fetch failed: http://www.openswan.org/download/old/openswan-2/openswan-2.2.0-kernel-2.4-klips.patch.gz;patch=1
14:05.45ar_NOTE: package collie-kernel-24-8-2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix-r22: task do_fetch: failed
14:05.52koenhrw: or stop OE from putting "openembedded' in /etc/issue / motd /something
14:05.55hrwour busybox need love... "ping: permission denied (are you root?)"
14:05.58ar_any ideas?
14:06.22hrwkoen: I have "OpenZaurus 3.5.4 \n \l" in /etc/issue
14:06.34pb___hrw: yeah, I noticed that yesterday as well.  I suspect the right answer is probably to stop using busybox ping, in fact.
14:07.22reenooheh. indeed. you don't want an suid root busybox
14:07.38hrwpb___: looks like
14:07.52hrwI'll open bug for it
14:07.57pb___thanks
14:08.35pb___ping being broken should probably be a blocking bug for familiar 0.8.3
14:08.50koenit works if you are root
14:08.57koenso  it's not completely broken
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14:10.18pb___true, but gpe-mininet (which doesn't run as root) requires a working ping
14:10.45pb___and, generally, users wouldn't expect to need to be root in order to use ping.
14:11.05zeckeRP: hmm merging sucks with git (at least ATM)
14:11.20hrwBug 629 has been added to the database
14:12.27pb___thanks
14:12.32pb___what are the "few other tools" you mentioned?
14:12.47hrwkoen: looked into familiar-version. OPIE sysinfo looks at /etc/familiar-version /etc/oz-version /etc/issue so why not gpe sysinfo? :)
14:13.08hrwpb___: I'm checking now on device
14:13.17pb___okay, cool
14:13.18koenhrw: gpe-conf looks at something that says 'OpenEmbedded' I guess
14:13.20hrwpb___: traceroute for example
14:13.33koenhrw: but shipping an oz-versions would be a good idea anyway
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14:14.47pb___actually, it looks like gpe-conf says "OpenEmbedded" if /etc/version exists (irrespective of its contents).
14:14.52pb___that seems a little bit broken.
14:15.01koenheh
14:15.11koenindeed
14:15.46pb___it's overridden by /etc/familiar-version or /etc/debian_version, which is why it wouldn't be showing up on Familiar, but I think the bug is in gpe-conf.
14:16.06koenso florian lied ;)
14:17.12pb___well, he might have been mistaken.  or, for that matter, it is quite possible that he was correct and I am mistaken.
14:18.46gremlin[it]bb.build.FuncFailed: ("can't read from file '%s' (%s)", ('/mnt/hda/oe/build/tmp/staging/h3600-linux/kernel/kernel-abiversion', <exceptions.IOError instance at 0x2aaaaea5ea70>))
14:19.11gremlin[it]i don't have build/staging/h3600-linux ;( :( ...
14:20.10pb___that is very unfortunate
14:20.51gremlin[it]yes ...
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14:22.15gremlin[it]which is kernel for famliar-unstable hh37.4 or hh40 ? (kernel 2.4)
14:22.46CoreDump|homelol
14:23.13CoreDump|homewas playing with X on my Z when I needed to shut the Xserver down. Guess what I did? Press Ctrl-Alt-BS on my latop *sigh*
14:24.06hrwCoreDump|home: ;))
14:24.07pb___heh
14:24.19pb___gremlin[it]: 40, I think
14:24.35hrwkoen: gpe-sysinfo is in which gpe-tool contained?
14:24.43koenhrw: gpe-conf
14:24.52hrwk
14:24.58koengremlin[it]: 37.4 for sa, hh39 for pxa
14:28.24RPzecke: The upstream link from the git server is only 256MBit
14:28.44koenRP: Mbit?!?!
14:28.55RPKBit :)
14:29.00koenaaaah
14:30.23koenso people should pull from ewi (100Mbit) ?
14:32.03zeckeI have fucked my tree again :}
14:33.24koenthe git tree?
14:33.36zeckekoen: I want a git-unpull
14:33.41koenthat doesn't sound too encouraging
14:33.54zeckekoen: the issue is if you start a pull and needs manual merging
14:34.01zeckekoen: you have almost lost
14:34.07koenthat doesn't sound too encouraging
14:34.26koenplease add that to the experiences
14:34.33zeckekoen: will do
14:35.07RPzecke: Is this the oz/fam branch merge?
14:35.39RPzecke: git-revert; git-prune should fix that is it doesn't do what was intended.
14:36.00zeckeRP: but why is there no interactive merge tool?
14:36.22RPI think we're missing something about doing branching deep in the past. Its not exactly something we'd be doing all the time either...
14:36.42RPzecke: Good question. I'm sure there will be a way to handle it...
14:37.20zeckeRP: we should have a oz354 branch now in git
14:37.35RPzecke: You managed to import it?
14:38.19zeckedunno, I did -s ours on the pull
14:38.51RPzecke: Its certainly there...
14:39.32zeckenow I would like to see the gitk output...
14:39.42zeckeanyway if we switch SCM I need to hack tailor...
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14:41.44pb___bbl
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14:56.06hrw~curse my desktop machine
14:56.11ibotMay the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, my desktop machine !
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15:50.31hrwRP: ping
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15:51.18zecke_hey mithro
15:54.28zecke_automatic cherry pick failed :}
15:55.32pb_doh
15:58.42CIA-403hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r52a13468... 10/packages/linux/ (4 files): openzaurus, opensimpad 2.4 kernels: fixed SRC_URI for openswan patch
16:01.32Croftonzecke_, I am puzzling out apache and ssl this morning
16:01.47CroftonHopefully I have a svn repo later.
16:01.54CroftonDo I need to worry about svk?
16:03.42zecke_Crofton: no ;)
16:03.51zecke_Crofton: it just works on top of svn
16:04.27mithrozecke_: you have 20 minutes with any problems
16:04.34mithroplus, http://www.cafepress.com/thousandparsec/
16:05.24zecke_mithro: sadly I'm busy with preparing the slides...
16:08.25CoreDump|homeanyone got a link to the new OZ "upgrades" folder?
16:10.53Croftonzecke_, right answer :)
16:11.09hrwRP: want to get another sd/mmc subsystem sources?
16:11.29mithrozecke_: how are you getting to FOSDEM, plane?
16:13.05mithroi would like to bring a poster to FOSDEM, but I don't have anyway to print it before then, do you think you would be able to print one of for me and bring it?
16:14.51CIA-403hrw 07org.oe.dev * ra51640b1... 10/packages/linux/ (4 files): openzaurus, opensimpad 2.4 kernels: fixed SRC_URI for openswan patch
16:16.40mithrowelp i'm going to head off to greece now!
16:16.42mithrohave fun everyone!
16:18.22mithrozecke_: i'll send you an email about the poster
16:23.59zecke_mithro: don't get lost!
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16:27.39zecke_http://oegit.rpsys.net:8000/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=.git;a=commit;h=25c0148f30400c0bcf4408f13856d34857adc81f
16:27.43zecke_that was an easy pick
16:29.07RPhrw: I'm always interested in that...
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16:30.00hrwRP: sashz (pdaX) worked on GPL mmc system from montavista - my 1G card is working with it on c760 (under 2.4.20)
16:31.05hrwRP: http://home.hrw.one.pl/tmp/mmc-pdaXrom-corgi-2.4.20.tar.bz2
16:31.22RPhrw: 403
16:31.38hrwRP: reload
16:32.58hrwRP: md5sum of my 1G sd card is same on Z and desktop
16:34.52RPhrw: got it, thanks. Comparing the two versions isn't going to be easy :-(
16:35.11hrwRP: I know
16:35.30hrwRP: I plan to write about it to lakml
16:35.49RPhrw: Good idea. rmk might be able to see the problem more easily than me
16:35.56hrwsure
16:36.02hrwRP: if not him then Pierre
16:36.18RPhrw: Yes, Pierre seems keen on mmc :)
16:36.43RPhrw: I'll have a look through it if I get a chance but I'm not sure when that'll be :-(
16:36.51hrwok
16:39.33zecke_RP: the amount of strcmp and strcpy in git makes me sick... will be fun to review
16:41.20hrwRP: want Cc: or lakml is enough for you?
16:47.00RPzecke_: not good :-(
16:47.16RPhrw: lakml is fine, thanks
16:47.18hrwRP: sent
16:47.25RPhrw: cc pierre though
16:47.31hrwRP: of course
16:47.39hrwcc: pierre, rmk, sashz
16:47.49zecke_RP: git cherry-pick is nice
16:48.07RPhrw: sounds good :)
16:48.21RPzecke_: Yes, I thought that might be useful
16:48.27RPzecke_: rebase looks fun as well
16:50.39zecke_RP: I used git-cat-file blob, git-file-ls --unmerged and git-update-index manually...
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17:18.19CIA-403nail 07org.oe.dev * r208f8ee4... 10/packages/wpa-supplicant/ (6 files in 2 dirs): wpa-supplicant: Upstream upgrade to 0.4.7, add Zydas zd1211-support
17:18.23CIA-403nail 07org.oe.dev * re8db3dc6... 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Add wpa-supplicant to slugos feed
17:18.58koenrwhitby, jbowler-zzz: what's your plan for EABI?
17:20.27koenafter 0.8.3 is out I should try to add ekiga to OE
17:26.20jbowler-zzzkoen: my current assumption is that EABI might fix the thumb stuff, so I will ignore it for a while (because if it does it will be very broken initially).
17:27.19jbowler-zzzI'm tempted at the moment to stop doing anything with uclibc/thumb and just try to fix glibc/arm.
17:27.24koenjbowler-zzz: Let's see what the debian people find out when they switch
17:27.43jbowler-zzzMy guess is that they will switch back PDQ
17:28.15jbowler-zzzDoesn't EABI require gcc 4.x?
17:28.54pb_either 4.1 or a patched 3.4, yes.
17:30.23jbowler-zzzAh... patched 3.4 might be ok for them, but I got the impression that 4.x was actually not compiling a lot of code without patching.
17:30.44koenincluding gcc 3.4 itself :)
17:31.01pb_4.0 has been the default in debian for a while, I think
17:31.51pb_a few packages don't build with it, but it isn't a large enough number to lose any serious amount of sleep over
17:31.52jbowler-zzzrwhitby seemed to be using it, so maybe they've overcome the problems - I guess on the packages which actually work on ARM matter.
17:32.06jbowler-zzzs/guess on/guess only/
17:32.39jbowler-zzzWorth a try then, if it doesn't compile gcc it gets my vote
17:33.02pb_tch.  I do wish riker would turn that "s/" thing off again, it's very annoying.
17:34.40jbowler-zzzWhich glibc version has EABI support?
17:34.52koencvs > 20051214
17:35.43jbowler-zzzSo that would be 2.3.5+cvs20051214?
17:35.46koenhttp://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/pda/files/angstrom-eabi-r7.diff.bz2 was my latest attempt to add it to OE
17:36.50koenthat predates the glibc cvstree change
17:36.58koenmoving the cvsdate to januari should fix that
17:37.03pb_bbiab
17:37.07koencu
17:38.25jbowler-zzzIs that on a branch in the OE servers?
17:39.14RPzecke_: oegit shouldn't have an origin branch, just a master :-/
17:39.19koenno, a diff against .dev (20051216)
17:39.49zecke_RP: did I push an origin?
17:39.53zecke_:}
17:42.03RPzecke_: No, I created it when I cloned ewi :)
17:42.16zecke_ah hehe
17:42.23zecke_git branch -d origin
17:43.16koenjbowler: I had hoped it that eabi stuff would be easy to add and apply it to .dev
17:43.24RPzecke_: The idea is you never develop on a branch you pull from. by default git clone creates an orgin and a master. When fetching, it pulls from the remote master into origin, then applies those changes to the local master...
17:44.38RPorigin is gone. That was surprisingly painless :)
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17:46.44jbowlerRP: I've got a set of patches which make an ixp4xx LED driver and then have three board level patches to use this for the LEDs on the specific boards (loft - an avila, nslu2 and nas100d, the latter not tested yet).
17:47.10jbowlerSeems to all work fine - current NSLU2 monotone head builds use it for the startup stuff.
17:47.33jbowlerOh, in fact, all slugos builds do so long as there is an LED labelled 'ready'
17:48.04hrwhmm. time to watch some kind of movie
17:48.09jbowlerPatches are in: packages/linux/ixp4xx-kernel/2.6.15/9[46]*.patch
17:48.17RPjbowler: Excellent :). I need to make some small tweaks to the led patches, then I'll repost to LKML and try to work out what mainline are going to do...
17:48.29jbowlers/9[46]/9[56]/
17:49.26jbowlerRP: you are welcome to add those patches if you wish.  The 96* patches are dependent on board level patches we have already, but the 95 (generic) one should be clean.
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17:49.45hrwRP: let input use led system..
17:49.54jbowlerI did modified the led_device name field to be (const char*) (from (char*)) so that I could use the LED resource name.
17:50.33do13Hi all
17:50.40hrwhi dirk
17:50.42koenhey do13
17:50.53do13Hi koen, hrw
17:50.54RPhi do13
17:50.59do13Hi Richard
17:51.05RPjbowler: Were there any other changes?
17:51.21jbowlerNo
17:51.52RPjbowler: If they apply to code in mainline and you're happy for them to be submitted, it makes the patches looks slightly less zaurus biased :)
17:51.54jbowlerA change to include/linux/leds.h, a new leds-ixp4xx-gpio.c in drivers/leds and the appropriate Makefile/Kconfig
17:52.22jbowlerI'm happy - they've got the Signed-off-by line in already
17:52.35RPexcellent - I'm just monotone pulling :)
17:53.56jbowlerI considered, but didn't implement, a generic "struct resource gpio_resource" so that different GPIO pin users wouldn't grab the same pin, the resource stuff is currently 'blind' at present (i.e. the 'parent' pointer remains NULL).
17:54.17jbowlerI didn't want to start making changes to the ixp4xx core code.
17:55.10RPThat is a bit ugly in theory on the pxa devices as well. In practice, the drivers are so hardware specific, I've never seen a conflict...
17:55.43RPExcept for the serial port mess...
17:56.53jbowlerYes, the primary reason for using a resource is just to pass in the information from the board saying which pins are connected to which LEDs (and whether they are ACTIVE_HIGH or ACTIVE_LOW).
17:57.27jbowlerixp4xx boards differ so much in the connections that the approach you took would result in massive code duplication
17:58.48RPThere is a fair bit of duplication between corgi and spitz. I decided the two drivers weren't worth trying to make common code for though...
17:59.29jbowlerRight, and it avoided having to define a way to pass the information through platform_data
18:01.35jbowlerThere's still some data-space duplication in each machine description because each one has a separate platform_device (though only one), but that's inherent in the architecture.
18:03.48jbowlerI'm going to remove the buzzer "LED" from 96-nslu2-leds.patch - it works (with timer and frequency about 10) but it duplicates functionality in another module (one which had got compiled out).
18:04.05zecke_RP: I really begin to hate the git merging skills...
18:04.12RPjbowler: Looking at the code, is the error handling in the probe function correct? If a registation fails, you return without unregistering any previously registered LEDs?
18:04.34jbowlerLook at the call immediately before the 'return rc'
18:04.58jbowlerIt sets 'name' on the one which failed to NULL then calls remove which iterates through everything just added.
18:05.08jbowlerSaves code over a while --i loop
18:05.54hrwok. time to make some OZ branding work for opie/gpe
18:06.05RPjbowler: Yes, I see :)
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18:06.48RPjbowler: It looks good :)
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18:09.07zecke_RP: and then one understands it... git merging...
18:09.44koenbbl
18:09.46gremlin[it]guy i found the reason of my problem, a package is build before kernel ...but it need kernel :( :( :( ...
18:10.09jbowlerRP: I just realised that it would be possible to use command line options too in the board level, just allocate (struct resources[16]) with empty names and fill in the names from the command line, led:ready=3 for example.
18:10.24jbowlerOr led:3=ready
18:10.38gremlin[it]i build kernel by hand (bitbake -b ) and i go further .... now another issue but i try
18:13.17RPjbowler: You could do that. That isn't much use on something like the zaurus but it might work for you...
18:14.01jbowlerRP: it works badly for NSLU2 (where the command line can't be changed) and well on Loft, where it can and where there is a general purpose GPIO header on the board.
18:14.35jbowlerWell, something for the future - it's not necessary for me atm
18:15.42RPWe can't change the CMDLINE easily on the zaurus without recompiling...
18:16.59RPjbowler: One other tiny thing - you've used : in the jumper names for loft. I was aiming to allow : as a separator in the name to dnote properties like led colour
18:17.26jbowlerRP: ok - I used '-' elsewhere so I'll change that.
18:18.02jbowlerIn fact, I'll remove the J8 stuff, it was only in there because I had a bug with multiple resources which was easier to debug on Loft (there is only one LED on loft)
18:18.15jbowlerAnd the command line option is better
18:18.18RPIt was that or have a ton of get attributes that returned things like colour which looked like a waste of space to me
18:18.54zecke_RP: hmm git-merge-index calls git-merge-recursive with the wrong arguments
18:19.09zecke_git-merge-index -o is not working
18:19.38RPzecke_: On your machine or on oegit?
18:19.49jbowlerRP: you should probably not attempt to push the Loft patch, because I think it has got to the point where Deepak will want it outside ixdp425-setup.c
18:19.49zecke_on my machine ;)
18:19.50RPor everywhere? :)
18:20.03zecke_RP: just for people that are too used to GNU utils
18:20.17RPjbowler: I'll just take the general driver and leave the machine specific bits to you
18:20.18jbowlerRP: and the nslu2 and nas100d patches prove that the code works on multiple ARM systems.
18:20.32mickeylevening
18:20.36pb__hail mickeyl
18:20.39mickeyljbowler: is the nas100d a recommendable device?
18:20.41mickeylhi pb_
18:20.43jbowlerRight - that's what I assumed, I figured you might want to show an example of the driver use though.
18:20.44zecke_mickeyl: hey, I vae my flight booked
18:20.49mickeylzecke_: very good
18:20.56RPjbowler: Do you mind if I import the const leds.h change into my main led patches, just so it looks tidier?
18:20.58jbowlermickeyl: I believe it is discontinued, and mine doesn't boot yet.
18:21.06RPhi mickeyl
18:21.10jbowlerRP: no problem
18:21.16mickeylzecke_: you'll go straight to Rue d'espagne and we can handle your luggage then, ok?
18:21.21mickeylRoy D'espagne even
18:21.23mickeylhi rp
18:21.35mickeyljbowler: oh, ok. thanks. i guess the 200d is too expensive for me, it's interesting hardware though
18:22.09mickeylhrw|gone: ping
18:22.49do13Hi mickeyl
18:23.33mickeylhey do13, how are things?
18:23.34jbowlermickeyl: they discounted the price a lot in the US, then it was worth buying
18:23.57mickeylah yeah
18:24.07mickeyllike the SIMpad. it was a joke @ 1000EUR, but cool @ 300
18:24.27zecke_mickeyl: I will try to get there then... maybe I need to get a palm+tomtom to find the way
18:24.58zecke_RP: okay the merging capabilities are promising, not too well documented but not worse than csv
18:25.08zecke_<<<<<<< .merge_file_V91P3t
18:25.08zecke_<PROTECTED>
18:25.08zecke_=======
18:25.08zecke_<PROTECTED>
18:25.09zecke_>>>>>>> .merge_file_7CAIfO
18:25.10mickeylzecke_: if you can afford the 25 EUR just take a taxi from the airport to the grand place. the roy d'espagne is directly there
18:25.42zecke_mickeyl: yeah will do so... FOSDEM will be my birthday present
18:25.53mickeylzecke_: ah right, what's the exact date?
18:26.21jbowlermickeyl: I believe NAiL saw a rebadged version from someone else (not sure about this), that might imply IOMega sold the design to someone, but of course the price then goes back up...
18:26.23zecke_somewhen this year ;)
18:26.34zecke_ljp: How could I run Opie on Qtopia 1.7?
18:27.02mickeylzecke_: heh. tell me :)
18:27.09zecke_ljp: I would really appreciate it, you once look at library...
18:27.13zecke_mickeyl: 26th of January
18:27.27mickeylah that soon
18:27.28zecke_I will get 14 :}
18:27.32mickeylheh no way
18:27.38mickeyl24 ?
18:27.49zecke_23
18:27.54mickeylhmm *sigh*
18:27.58mickeylall these young folks
18:27.59zecke_*fucking old*
18:28.02mickeylhah
18:28.02zecke_oops
18:28.41RPzecke_: That looks better. Given it can create files for comparision for a merge, hacking git to launch meld on the files shouldn't be impossible...
18:28.57zecke_RP: hehe can you hack shell scripts?
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18:29.22RPzecke_: yes ;-)
18:29.26zecke_woot
18:29.50zecke_maybe we should open a OE git tree...
18:30.17RPYou mean an anonymous one?
18:30.35zecke_RP: OE version of 'git'
18:30.47RPah, right :)
18:30.49zecke_RP: to use lua scripting to call meld, kdiff3 and such
18:31.14zecke_mickeyl: I have bought a book about Death March Projects
18:31.15RPzecke_: I suspect if we wrote nice patches, it would get accepted into git mainline
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18:31.31zecke_RP: they are welcome to pull from our tree
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18:31.43do13mickeyl: bussy
18:32.20zecke_Summary: Merging OZ3.5.4 with HEAD is not working automatically (yet)
18:32.26do13mickeyl: Did you booked your flight to Brüssel?
18:32.53mickeyldo13: yep. done. I'll arrive Friday at 20:00 and will depart Sonday at 19:00
18:33.22do13mickeyl: Which airline?
18:33.54mickeyldo13: Lufthansa, LH 4582 / LH 4587
18:34.20mickeyloh, i'll arrive 17:15 on friday... leaves me more time to checkin
18:35.02mickeyldo13: 194,87 EUR in total.
18:35.36mickeylmight get something cheapear with other airlines, but I support the local economy
18:35.37mickeylheh
18:36.31do13mickeyl: Yep I found the same price.
18:38.06do13mickeyl: Maybe I can book the same flight. Which hotel did you booked?
18:38.20mickeyldo13: astridhotel.be
18:38.42RPdo13: I added the two patches of yours (bl and pm) to the oe kernel tree btw. My c3000 still appears to be working although I haven't had a chance to full test yet
18:38.46mickeyldo13: 400 meters from the Grand Place - a good location for the evenings so the way to bed is not far :)
18:39.10do13mickeyl: thanks
18:39.14mickeylnp
18:42.02do13RP: OK. If the bl works we can push this patch.
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18:42.23mickeyljbowler: do you know if anyone has sound working with the nslu yet? I'm still looking for a custom built audio streamer device in my home
18:42.59do13RP: The pm needs more changes. I have a newer patch in my tree.
18:43.32RPdo13: Can you make sure to reference include/asm-arm and not include/asm?
18:44.42do13RP: oops.
18:47.34gremlin[it]no way ... i got at end the same error --> ERROR: Nothing provides (2.4.19-rmk6-pxa1-hh37)
18:47.55RPdo13: Feel free to push the bl patch (and add a signed-off-by line from me). I've just double checked the c3000 and its fine
18:48.30RPdo13: I've been caught out by the symlinks before ;-)
18:48.34pb__mickeyl: do you know where I might find some pre-release 3.5.4 gpe images for my shepherd?
18:49.18Croftonzecke, you about?
18:51.56do13RP: Thanks. I'll do this next weekend. This week I'am on a business trip.
18:52.08zecke_Crofton: yes
18:53.10Croftonhttps://ossie-dev.mprg.org/repos/oe/
18:53.19Croftonneed to work out access controls though
18:53.45zecke_Crofton: good start
18:54.31CroftonI'm going to remember the acess stuff now
18:54.31RPpb__: I think you'd need to ask hrw|gone where he's got the test images stashed :)
18:54.40pb__okay
18:54.47pb__hrw|gone: where have you got the test images stashed?
18:54.48Croftonhttp://ossie-dev.mprg.org:8080/timeline
18:54.49mickeylpb_: i think hrw did some.... now where is the url...
18:54.56Croftonzecke, can you make a login here?
18:55.09CroftonThe password setup stuff isn;t ssl though
18:55.10zecke_RP: I'm having kdiff3 called from merge-one-file
18:55.12RPpb__: I'd guess somewhere on ewi546...
18:55.33zecke_Crofton: I got the listing without any pw
18:55.38RPzecke_: I wondered about that...
18:56.10Croftonyeah, but I suspect you can't write :)
18:58.42pb__RP: ah, thanks
18:59.19RPpb__: I'm not sure that's for public release but I doubt hrw will mind you trying one ;-)
18:59.36RPgoogle know everything :)
18:59.40pb__heh
18:59.46pb__okay, excellent
18:59.57pb__maybe I should try the opie images as well, just to see what life is like on the other side
19:00.09zecke_Crofton: should I try to commit some stuff?
19:00.54pb__can someone remind me what the magic key sequence is to flash a shepherd?
19:01.17Croftonwell, you can try
19:01.24Croftonbut I think something is broke ...
19:01.28CroftonI am trying now
19:02.18zecke_Crofton: which password?
19:02.29zecke_Merging back to mirror source https://ossie-dev.mprg.org/repos/oe.
19:02.30zecke_Authentication realm: <https://ossie-dev.mprg.org:443> OSSIE
19:02.30zecke_Password for 'ich':
19:04.07zecke_RP: do you know how to discard a cset?
19:04.42Croftonzecke, you can make a username at http://ossie-dev.mprg.org:8080/timeline
19:05.02Croftondon't use a good pw if you are paranoid as the setup isn't over ssl
19:05.13Croftonthe rest of it should be good though
19:06.33zecke_Crofton: how do I know if this pw is valid?
19:06.46zecke_Crofton: I'm getting a 500 Internal Server Error
19:06.50Croftonsmae here
19:07.07Croftongive me a few
19:07.11Croftonminutes
19:07.43zecke_hmm I need to do an assignment now
19:07.47Croftonheh
19:07.50Croftonso do I
19:07.56Croftonprogress report crap for some pref
19:08.01Croftoner professor
19:08.07CroftonI'll get repo running first
19:08.13Croftonvery close
19:09.51Croftonthats better, now I just forbidden :)
19:10.42pb__ah, here we go
19:11.44zecke_Crofton: right
19:12.44Croftonnow I just need to figure out per directory access file voodoo
19:12.57pb__hm, this doesn't look good
19:13.04pb__I still have an upside down "gpe 2.6" splash screen
19:13.46pb__oh, heh, forgot to rename the rootfs
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19:18.25pb__ah, now I seem to be completely hosed
19:18.29zecke_Crofton: 500 error
19:19.49pb__kernel panic :-(
19:19.57Croftonah but you can read :)
19:21.21RPzecke_: I'm not sure
19:25.14zecke_Crofton: forbidden again
19:25.19Croftonyeah
19:25.27Croftongive me a little while
19:25.33zecke_don't hurry
19:25.37Croftonneed to figure out where the issue lies
19:25.40Croftonheh
19:25.47zecke_I will SWING a bit
19:25.53Croftoncool
19:26.24CroftonI have it working on a non ssl machine ..
19:30.17luke-jr_can someone w/ commit access please enable IPv6 and SSL in curl?
19:33.20CIA-403coredump 07org.oe.dev * rb6b0df14... 10/packages/linux/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
19:33.20CIA-4Akita / Borzoi / Spitz:
19:33.20CIA-4- defconfig changed to include iptables, tun and ipv6 support. (Closing Bug #455)
19:33.20CIA-4- Kernel tested on Akita, no problems but ipv6 and tun modules are auto-installed into the rootfs
19:34.42hrw|gonepb__: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/oz3.5.4-test-images/
19:34.47hrwmorning
19:34.55pb__hrw: thanks
19:35.13pb__I tried the gpe-image from there, but my test was... unsuccessful.
19:35.22mickey|dinnerhrw: morning. what's the time frame for 3.5.4? Let me know when I can tag and do the world build. I did it two weeks ago, but since then many changes hit oz354fam083
19:36.06hrwmickeyl: this changeset which coredump just did need propagate
19:36.58hrwmickeyl: I have patch for gpe-conf to show 'distribution:openzaurus', have to add openzaurus-version package (which just add /etc/openzaurus-version), patch for libopie so opie-sysinfo also use /etc/openzaurus-version
19:37.32hrwmickeyl: there are some bugs in bugtracker which would be nice to get closed - like 'composite in gpe' one
19:38.09RPpb__: Any idea what the problem was?
19:38.35pb__RP: "VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(31,2)"
19:38.36hrwmickeyl: and we have to decide about mirroring - it was easy on sf.net where anyone can get ssh account and run own software
19:39.00CoreDump|homehttp://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=620
19:39.13CoreDump|homeGPE has a nifty little tool for that  ^ ^
19:39.33hrwCoreDump|home: on you shots I saw opie-sh script for it....
19:39.37hrwyour
19:39.47CoreDump|homeheh right
19:39.54CoreDump|homeDEPENDS: opie-sh
19:40.09hrwI have similar  one for 2.6 usb-gadget control
19:40.15hrwand cpufreq
19:40.24CoreDump|homecpufreq? neat!
19:40.41mickeylhmm... i don't know why all insist on /etc/$DISTRO-version. I thought using /etc/issue was enough *shrug*
19:40.50RPpb__: Did you use the rootfs.tar.bz2 file or the initrd.bin file as initrd.bin?
19:41.11pb__RP: ah, whoops, the .tar.bz2
19:41.14pb__I guess that was a dim plan
19:42.04hrwmickeyl: I was thinking like that too - our images get oe-version which gpe-conf/sysinfo takes to tell 'disttro: OE'
19:42.11RPpb__: We've all done it :)
19:42.31pb__heh
19:42.55hrwheh.. I aired this room and cpu goes to 40C.. soon will be 55C anyway
19:43.33pb__mickeyl: for your interest, the list of outstanding familiar 0.8.3 bugs is at http://handhelds.org/~bugzilla/showdependencytree.cgi?id=1334
19:43.39pb__I guess some of those probably apply to oz as well
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19:44.57hrw1459 and newer for sure
19:45.29mickeylpb_: i see. thanks. yeah.
19:45.37CoreDump|home"useless distinction between "Utilities" and "Other"." Indeed heh
19:47.12pb__is there a magic sysrq key on modern zaurus kernels?
19:47.26pb__(or some other way to reboot a crashed machine without taking the battery out)
19:47.45mickeyl1364 is fixed
19:47.49mickeylpython-datetime
19:47.58pb__rock
19:48.19hrwpb__: right japanese+home == sysrq
19:48.41pb__I had a "clever plan" for avoiding 1385 by generating the locales at build time using qemu, but unfortunately it seems that qemu's arm emulation is not equal to that task
19:48.43pb__so, such
19:48.46pb__suck, even
19:48.58mickeylhmm yeah that's unfortunate. what options do we have left then?
19:49.14pb__hrw: thanks
19:49.27hrwpb__: np
19:49.33pb__it says "SysRq : Resetting", but... it doesn't seem to actually be resetting
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19:49.41pb__so, that's not quite as great as I had hoped
19:49.42pb__heh
19:49.49hrwpb__: sometimes it does not work (resetting)
19:49.53pb__ah
19:49.57jbowlermickeyl: using NSLU2 as an music server is pretty straightforward (mpd?), people have discussed usb audio output devices on the nslu2-linux mailing list - I think they work, I'm not sure (I haven't followed the discussions).  I believe rwhitby has also looked at things which have built in audio output capability.
19:50.46pb__mickeyl: no easy options that I can think of.
19:50.53mickeyljbowler: i guess i could just buy a usb audio device - their cheap these days
19:51.15pb__obviously one could either (a) fix qemu so it works, or (b) fix localedef to use less ram, but neither of those sound very straightforward
19:51.25RPpb__: Each iteration of zaurus does different things in the bootloader upon a watchdog reset (which is what the kernel does to reset by default). c760 works, c700 was a bit weird and I've never had a c750 to see that that does
19:51.55zecke_pb__: what does not work with qemu?
19:52.03pb__zecke_: qemu segfaults
19:52.23zecke_oh
19:52.34pb__yeah
19:53.04gremlin[it]where i can look to solve this issue ??? ERROR: Nothing provides (2.4.19-rmk6-pxa1-hh37)  ERROR: dependency (2.4.19-rmk6-pxa1-hh37) (for alsa-driver) not satisfied
19:53.08hrwmickeyl: could you take care about WE18 and wireless-tools? 594, 595 and check 538?
19:53.18mickeylhrw: sure. i'm on it as we speak
19:54.15hrwgreat
19:54.55RPgremlin[it]: Looks like a bug in alsa-driver - it should probably be something like kernel-image-2.4.19-rmk6-pxa1-hh37
19:55.19CIA-403mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r655180ca... 10/packages/wireless-tools/ (wireless-tools_28-pre6.bb wireless-tools_28-pre13.bb):
19:55.19CIA-4wireless-tools: upgrade 28pre6 to 28pre13
19:55.19CIA-4the header includes have been removed, so the fixheader patch is no longer necessary
19:55.24pb__excellent, now it really is booting
19:55.39pb__I wonder what takes so long in there.
19:55.40RPgremlin[it]: alsa-driver is probably at fault with your earlier build error as well
19:55.41hrwmickeyl: add it into branch
19:56.37mickeylwhat's our policy again? do i need to add it to our meta-bug or can i commit right away?
19:57.01hrwcommit
19:57.07mickeylexcellent
19:57.24pb__heh
19:57.31pb__mickeyl: it's your branch, I guess you can do what you like
19:57.52RPmickeyl: I think its just us mere mortals that need to use the meta-bug :)
19:57.56mickeylhehe
19:58.00mickeylalways trying to be polite here ):
19:58.01mickeyl:)
19:58.12pb__hehe
19:58.47zecke_-20 degree tomorrow... I think I'm staying home
19:59.00hrwzecke_: -22 here but I have to go to work...
19:59.04gremlin[it]RP uhhh the .bb file for alsa driver is quite incomprensible for me ... :( ...
19:59.22CIA-403jbowler 07org.oe.dev * r90e5eaef... 10/packages/linux/ (4 files in 2 dirs): ixp4xx-kernel: update LEDs patches, add NSLU2 beeper back in to 2.6.15.1
19:59.51hrwheh.. forgot about few commits...
19:59.58pb__hm, I see that oz enables the matchbox compositor out of the box
20:00.05mickeylbbi1h
20:00.10pb__I'm not sure that's a great plan; it introduces a few nasty artifacts
20:00.58RPgremlin[it]: It inherits module so it should get the dependencies right :-/
20:01.24CIA-403mickeyl 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * ra5db6230... 10/packages/wireless-tools/ (wireless-tools_28-pre6.bb wireless-tools_28-pre13.bb):
20:01.24CIA-4wireless-tools: upgrade 28pre6 to 28pre13
20:01.24CIA-4(from .dev)
20:01.38hrwpb__: you sure that it does not left from previous installation?
20:01.53pb__ah, maybe it was
20:02.26hrwpb__: thats why collie is my favorite fresh install platform - no /home partition
20:02.32pb__heh, right
20:02.51pb__I forgot /home isn't wiped on the shepherd
20:03.02hrwpb__: it is on ipaq?
20:03.12pb__some of them, yeah
20:03.33pb__iirc, only h3970, h5500 and hx4700 have a persistent /home
20:03.51pb__oh, and h5400
20:05.16pb__also, the lcd on my shepherd has an interesting "shimmer" effect now.  I don't remember seeing that on older versions.
20:05.51RPecho 1 > /sys/device/platform/w100fb/fastpllclk or whatever it is...
20:08.09pb__yeah, that does make it better
20:08.38pb__it's still there, but not really noticeable anymore unless you're looking for it.  That's probably how it was before.
20:09.19hrwflashing collie with more up-to-date image (but not quite up-to-date anyway)
20:10.54Croftonzecke, try commiting now
20:11.19pb__hrw: it would be nice to have sylpheed back in the shepherd gpe-image, if there's room for it
20:11.45hrwpb__: how big rootfs is there?
20:11.52zecke_Crofton: I'm pushing now...
20:12.08pb__hrw: I have 4264kb free on mine
20:12.21pb__out of 25600kb total, apparently
20:12.27zecke_Crofton: but I will need to rm it...
20:12.38hrwand again users will complain about full rootfs...
20:12.47Croftonthats fine
20:12.54CroftonI ahve a bogus dir in now
20:14.16pb__hrw: how much space do they need to be available before they quit complaining?
20:14.59hrwpb__: dont know - I was looking only at collie where tried to get atleast 1M
20:15.46Croftonzecke, can you confirm you have write access? I may need to restart server
20:15.51pb__ah.  well, I imagine you should still have at least a couple of megs free after installing sylpheed.  it's not _that_ big.
20:15.59zecke_Crofton: I'm comitting to it
20:16.03hrwpb__: ok
20:16.06Croftonoko
20:16.06zecke_Crofton: so I can confirm it
20:16.09Croftonok
20:16.23pb__hrw: incidentally, you could win some space back by ditching openswan, which doesn't even seem to run with the kernel that you ship.
20:16.23Croftonjust checking if I need to restart server after i update svn access file
20:16.52pb__including ipsec out of the box is awesome, but in this day and age you would probably be better off with racoon and 26sec.
20:17.09hrwpb__: ipsec is gone from images already (but not from test ones)
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20:17.13CroftonI have killed two birds with one stone today :)
20:17.39pb__hrw: ah, ipsec is removed altogether?  that's a shame.
20:17.50hrwpb__: blame koen
20:18.04hrwI was planning to remove it only from collie
20:18.49hrwbtw.. who maintain gpe-image/meta-gpe? I added sylpheed there but dont know does it was correct way
20:19.37pb__florian, probably
20:20.36zecke_Crofton: I try to svk smergee everything into your repo
20:20.42hrwok
20:20.43zecke_Crofton: this will be a good test for svk as well
20:21.09zecke_Crofton: it is way slower than git... (as one can't simply copy the 'revs')
20:21.15Croftonok
20:21.42Croftonhave you committed yet? I don't see anything ...
20:21.54zecke_so this might take some time, if not I did something wrong
20:21.59Croftonok
20:22.00zecke_Crofton: the first rev is 34 mb in size
20:22.13zecke_and then I hope 3??? will follow
20:22.17Croftonwe have space and bw
20:22.50Croftonok
20:23.01CroftonI see ssl_access_log messages :)
20:23.52Croftonwith svn+svk, we could use svk to push to main oe repos
20:23.58Croftonbut use svn locally?
20:25.35hrwpb__: sylpheed is small - added
20:25.54hrwatleast in branch
20:25.58zecke_Crofton: otherway around
20:26.12Croftonhmm
20:26.15zecke_Crofton: you mirror the central OE server and sync it into your depot
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20:26.23hrwhi Pigi
20:26.28zecke_Crofton: then you do svk cp //oe-central //my-oe-work
20:26.30PigiCiao all
20:26.32Pigihi hrw
20:26.46hrwPigi: which ipkg you suggest to use for stable: .154 or .156?
20:26.48Croftonbut then people can use svn againest my-oe-work?
20:26.48zecke_Crofton: you check out //my-oe-work and commits, moves and then you do 'push'
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20:27.19zecke_Crofton: they could, if you make the svn revs available again
20:27.26PigiI think 156 should be ok, but if pb_confirm the new mods, then I will release a new 157 that would speed up a bit something.
20:27.27zecke_Crofton: svk uses 'svn' to store the data
20:27.30Croftonbasically, we use svn locally and it would be a win for me if I could hide the svk part :)
20:27.53zecke_Crofton: then use svk only for merging ;)
20:27.58Croftonyeah
20:28.08zecke_Crofton: svk smerge //local-group //remote-group
20:28.18zecke_Crofton: svk smerge //remote-group //local-group
20:29.21Croftonbesides hosting the server, I may have to try this
20:29.46Croftonalthough my opinion shouldn't carry too much weight
20:29.53hrwPigi: ok
20:30.04zecke_Crofton: all opinions are equally weighted
20:30.40CroftonI just need to scm stuff to calm down, the monotone "blow ups" have me out of sync :(
20:30.56Croftonand I spend more time than I should dealing with scm issues than work :(
20:31.15hrweach time we release OZ/Fam we change scm
20:31.16zecke_:(
20:31.28Pigipb_ ping
20:31.28zecke_monotone might win :)
20:31.55Croftonhopefully it gets faster :)
20:32.20pb__hi pigi
20:32.43Pigihi pb__ ! Did you got some time to test the ipkg modified ?
20:33.01pb__I tested it a bit, and it seems fine so far
20:33.45Pigigood. I will release it then for the stable image ....
20:33.50Croftonthe win from the svn point of view is that I already can deal with it pretty good
20:34.11Croftonof course, I was figuring out monotone ok also
20:34.12hrwzecke_: we need to patch opie-aboutapplet... it tell about opie v1.2 not v1.2.1 ;)
20:34.30pb__Pigi: okay, great
20:34.50gremlin[it]hi Pigi
20:34.55Pigihi gremlin[it]
20:36.28hrwwe should have ~1.5M free on collie now
20:37.23gremlin[it]maybe this is an issue for u -> ERROR: Nothing provides (2.4.19-rmk6-pxa1-hh37)
20:37.24gremlin[it]ERROR: dependency (2.4.19-rmk6-pxa1-hh37) (for alsa-driver) not satisfied
20:37.29gremlin[it]Pigi
20:38.11Pigishould it be an error for  me ? can I ask you why ?
20:38.19Pigis/error/issue
20:39.37gremlin[it]maybe if is an issue of alsa-driver ... i try to take a look to the .bb file and it state u are the manteiner
20:39.39gremlin[it]:)
20:40.35pH5gremlin[it]: this sounds like it is an issue with bitbake, maybe you still have an old version without the explode_deps code?
20:40.55gremlin[it]pH5, i did svn update this morning
20:40.57rwhitby-awaymickey|bbl: nas100d is in the kernel, but the RTC and IDE support are not there yet.  We're waiting for hardware to be delivered to dwery for the IDE support, and the RTC support depends on the new RTC subsystem.
20:42.10Pigiwell, I used to be the "importer" for alsa, sometime ago, but after that someone other took the bb maintaing. I will try to give a look at it, but I'm not sure I will have much free time in the next days
20:43.05gremlin[it]ah ok Pigi ... don't worry :)
20:43.14Piginp
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20:51.33Pigihrw, 0.99.156 is out.
20:51.38Pigis/156/157
20:53.39hrwPigi: its suggested version to normal use?
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20:56.29LoDownanyone here have an H5000 series ipaq?
20:57.58LoDownhm
20:58.34LoDownwhy would the LCD of my ipaq work with the old familiar 0.8.2 images, but not with the newest images made from OE?
20:58.53hrwkernel changed?
20:59.31LoDownwhat is the newest kernel?
20:59.31hrwheh.. looks like I fscked one pacakge
21:00.06LoDownbecause the kernel of the workable image is 2.4.19-rmk6-pxa1-hh40
21:00.07CIA-403hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r37a4377a... 10/packages/meta/gpe-image.bb: gpe-image: added sylpheed for bigflash devices
21:00.29Croftonzecke_, still ticking along
21:00.48hrwhttp://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/revision.psp?id=8aba06fecc0a39a0ccb881cbff7993804b834529 - someone has idea how to make it work as I expect?
21:02.23tyzhi....i just got setup for devel on my ipaq h5550. Can someone tell me, what are most developers doing as far as testing/trying out new code. If i have to install it on actual device each time, this seems very tediuos. I feel like there must be an emulator, or way to run a image locally....?
21:02.40zecke_Crofton: yes
21:03.12Croftonits not using any cpu
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21:04.50CoreDump|homehrw: is sylpheed working for you?
21:05.21pb__tyz: what do you plan to develop?
21:05.41pb__generally, you can just compile and run the code on your regular computer.
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21:06.33tyzpb_:  currently i need to work on the wlan driver, mmc in kernel. i'll probably work on things based mostly in the console, not gui
21:08.04hrwargh.. desktop crashed twice in a row...
21:09.29pb__for drivers, you have no option but to test on the real hardware.
21:11.12tyzokay, i guess i'll just copy the new packages over and try my changes as required.  I've found bugs in opie/console i'd like to fix.. is there anyway to run/boot opie locally?
21:11.22RPgremlin[it]: It looks like a version error it wants -hh37 and I suspect something else like -hh40 is built. The kernel-abiversion file in staging is probably therefore stale. Why is the question you'll have to answer
21:12.59hrwCoreDump|home: sylpheed works on my c760 (atleast start)
21:13.06CoreDump|homehmmmm
21:13.21CoreDump|homedoesnt work for me. just freezes
21:13.48pb__check that you don't have the compositor enabled
21:14.05CoreDump|homewell, built from 354 branch
21:14.21CoreDump|homeso it's enabled I think
21:15.07zecke_*Yeah Fight Club*
21:15.08pb__if you get drop shadows under pop-up menus, it's enabled
21:15.50CoreDump|homepb_: yep, it's active then. Can it be turned off?
21:16.14pb__yeah, use the "visual effects" checkbox under "look and feel" in the settings menu
21:16.28pb__you may need to restart X after turning it off if everything goes black
21:16.42zecke_pb__: you look too much like an english hooligan :}
21:16.51pb__zecke_: appearances are not deceptive
21:16.53CoreDump|homeugh
21:17.03CoreDump|homeX just crapped its pants
21:17.15Croftonlooks like this?
21:17.16Croftonhttp://www.elvisgrotto.com/fractbx.gif
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21:18.05CoreDump|homelol
21:18.24hrw~kill cvs
21:18.28ibotACTION shoots a inverse  neutrino gun at cvs
21:18.41LoDownhey...what package provides the kernel?
21:18.50CoreDump|homepb__: excellent. that worked, thanks!
21:19.06pb__CoreDump|home: very good
21:19.09CoreDump|homehrw: we should probably turn that of in branch
21:19.16pb__as you may gather, the matchbox compositor is a bit buggy
21:19.33hrwCoreDump|home: patches welcome. you know that I'm not gpe user
21:19.37CoreDump|homeindeed
21:19.47CoreDump|homeneither am I heh
21:19.56pb__sadly it's been that way for about a year and a half and the matchbox crew don't seem to have much interest in fixing it
21:20.34CoreDump|homeslows things down anyway
21:20.34RPpb__: Is that bug in the bugzilla?
21:21.04pb__RP: dunno.  I think it pre-dates the establishment of the openedhand bugzilla, but it might be in the handhelds.org one.
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21:22.20RPpb__: I'd suggest adding it to the OH bugzilla, then we can't claim not to know about it ;-)
21:22.39pb__heh
21:22.48pb__yeah, sounds like a good plan
21:23.22pb__I guess I'll have to do some testing to remind myself what the actual bug is.  I think it's something along the lines of matchbox just plain forgetting to draw certain windows.
21:23.52pb__iirc, the reason for the sylpheed "freeze" is that it sits there waiting for you to click OK on a modal dialog, but the dialog doesn't actually show up on the screen.
21:24.06pb__if you manage to guess where the OK button is and click there, it will proceed happily.
21:24.10RPpb__: That sounds sensible. The more comprehensive the bug report, the more likely the problem will get fixed...
21:24.58pb__to be honest, though, the compositor doesn't bring a whole lot of benefit right now so I'm not too bothered about it.
21:25.17hrw~lart monotone revert for monotone: misuse: unknown path 'packages/opie-aboutapplet/packages/wireless-tools/wireless-tools_28-pre6.bb'
21:25.30pb__the only real driver for using Composite would be to get support for ARGB windows, and the matchbox compositor doesn't support those anyway.
21:26.58pb__it also produces this unpleasant visual effect when popping up a menu, where the area is briefly filled with garbage before being drawn correctly.
21:26.58gremlin[it]RP : only -hh37 is build ...
21:26.58pb__so, all in all, best to turn it off :-}
21:27.11RPpb__: It does sound like there is a bug there so filing a bug and then changing the default options in OE sounds like the best course of action
21:28.16gremlin[it]now i try to build -hh40 and see what happen ...
21:28.22RPpb__: I know our matchbox .bb files have subtle differences to the ones on OE, I don't know enough about it say whether the ones in OE are more or less correct for OE
21:28.47pb__RP: it'd be interesting to see the diffs
21:29.07pb__afaik, there isn't anything very wrong with the ones in OE, but that's not to say that yours aren't better
21:29.57pb__actually, that's not quite true: OE builds without xsettings, which has always seemed like a bug
21:30.31LoDownplease, what .bb file handles the kernel?
21:30.58pb__LoDown: any of the ones in the linux directory
21:31.13gremlin[it]LoDown, depend on machine but all is in packeges/linux dir
21:31.50LoDownok...thank you
21:32.53RPpb__: The composite tag is missing for a start :)
21:33.06zecke_RP: git-http-fetch just segfaulted :}
21:33.55CIA-403hrw 07org.oe.dev * r8846b4fd... 10/packages/opie-aboutapplet/ (2 files in 2 dirs): opie-aboutapplet 1.2.1: let it show OPIE 1.2.1 instead of OPIE 1.2 (CVS backport)
21:34.09LoDownok...this is really weird...older images for my ipaq built with kernel hh40
21:34.13LoDownand the touchscreen worked
21:34.30LoDownbut the new images (touchscreen not working) build with kernel hh39-r1
21:35.15RPzecke_: oops :)
21:35.29RPpb__: http://sam.rpsys.net/matchbox.diff
21:36.03RPpb__: You'll have to filter out the CVS->SRC changes but its readable enough
21:36.22IfaistosGreetings to all !
21:37.33pb__RP: thanks
21:37.56pb__yeah, most of that looks in order.
21:38.06pb__I wonder why OE uses --disable-cairo with matchbox-keyboard.
21:38.13Ifaistospb__: I think i found why the the x86/epia do not build. its gcc 4.x
21:38.25pb__Ifaistos: ah
21:38.44Ifaistosis there a way to force oe to use gcc 3.4.5
21:39.39RPIfaistos: I don't think we have 3.4.5. PERFERRED_VERSION_gcc-cross = "3.4.4" in your local.conf should help though.
21:39.43JustinP....? I believe OE uses GCC3 internally by default....
21:39.59RPJustinP: It's DISTRO dependent
21:40.05JustinPah yes
21:40.48LoDownanother question...where is the kernel version being set?   I don't see it in machine or distro
21:41.10hrwLoDown: you set preffered kernel and bitbake use newest one by default
21:41.18RPLoDown: Look for PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel
21:41.20LoDownhmm...
21:41.30hrwLoDown: use PREFERRED_VERSION_virtual/kernel = "2.0.36"
21:41.36LoDownso...why would hh39-r1 be newer then hh40?
21:42.12Ifaistoshmmm ubuntu has 3.4.5... i'll give it a try and then try to get 3.4.4 from source to compile it if it fails... hope it does not
21:42.36RPIfaistos: 3.4.5 should be straight forward to add
21:43.11tyzi'm using breezy you can install 2.95 3.3 3.4 and default it 4
21:43.28tyznot sure on hoary if they have other vers packaged up
21:43.41hrwCoreDump|home: could you look on #608?
21:44.52CoreDump|homehrw: well I'm seeing the same here
21:45.10Ifaistostyz: the 3.4 is 3.4.5 :(
21:45.13CoreDump|homeon collie, too
21:45.31hrwCoreDump|home: heh..
21:45.55hrwsharp - I 'love' you
21:46.18hrwCoreDump|home: pushed your defconfig changes to branch
21:46.21LoDownhrw: newest from monotone, or newest on my harddrive?
21:46.23CoreDump|homety
21:46.47RPIfaistos: Why the need for 3.4.5? OE should just compile its own compiler and not care too much about what's on your system?
21:46.54hrwLoDown: newest in OE metadata
21:47.17LoDownhm...ok
21:48.08Ifaistosit stops when configuring glibc-intermediate :(
21:48.11Ifaistoshttp://pastebin.com/517282
21:48.34tyzahh yeh. i've built opie-image gpe-image successfully with hmm shoot it was 3.4.5 or 3.3 on ubuntu, though i tried again after recent update some things were broken.
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21:50.54RPIfaistos: Change to a 3.4 based gcc-cross-initial
21:55.08zecke_pb__: thanks I have now swap on nbd
21:55.21Ifaistosi am trying with  PERFERRED_VERSION_gcc-cross = "3.4.4.... lets see if this works
21:55.41pb__zecke_: rock
21:56.00zecke_pb__: now I need to see if it deadlocks
21:59.42koenhrw: if you need me to do some stuff, please e-mail me, I will be away from irc for the next 3 days
21:59.59zeckekoen: cya!
22:00.02hrwkoen: ok will remember
22:00.09Ifaistosnop... it did not work... :(
22:00.11hrw|gonecu
22:00.16koencu
22:00.43RPIfaistos: add PERFERRED_VERSION_gcc-cross-initial = "3.4.4" as well
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22:08.55Croftonzecke, I guess this is faster than monotone :)
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22:14.17zeckeCrofton: well I do not think many people will sync from ewi to your server ;)
22:14.43Croftonheh
22:14.50Croftondoes it pull faster?
22:15.05CroftonI am just wondering what is slowing things down?
22:15.21zeckeCrofton: svn normal speed, svk well network io for the revs
22:15.29Croftonyeah
22:15.31zeckeCrofton: dunno, could be my uploading speed
22:15.58zeckeCrofton: maybe I will take my ethernet cable with to get 100mbit in uni
22:16.00CroftonI am on 10MBps ethernet
22:16.11Croftonall other links should be good for me
22:17.11CroftonThe real test is how fast people can make local copies
22:18.29Croftonwhat operation are you doing at the moment?
22:19.27zeckesvk smerge -B /oe/convert_oe /oe/crofton-svn
22:22.37Piginite all
22:22.39IfaistosRP: No luck... :(
22:23.08Ifaistosi had a look and it default to "gcc" which is 4.0.1
22:24.25RPIfaistos: "gcc" or "gcc-cross" (or "gcc-cross-initial") ?
22:25.28Ifaistosno i meant the it compiled gcc-initial with the default gcc
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22:25.58Ifaistoswait a sec to get a copy of the build
22:26.18RPIfaistos: and that didn't work? I guess 3.4 might not compile with 4.0 :-/
22:26.56RPIfaistos: You might have to make your system default to use a 3.x compiler...
22:28.31Ifaistosi think so too.... do you think if i do a symlink (gcc -> gcc-3.4.5) to a dummy dir and add it infont of the path. to wotk ?
22:29.06RPIfaistos: I don't know. You could try...
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22:29.58Ifaistosdoes oe have a "hard" gcc path or its uses the system path to execute ?
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22:30.11RPIfaistos: system path
22:30.35Ifaistoshmmm it might work then. I'll give it a try
22:31.26Ifaistoshere is the build
22:31.28Ifaistoshttp://pastebin.com/518136
22:32.12zeckeCrofton: https://ossie-dev.mprg.org/repos/oe/
22:32.17zeckeCrofton: first revision comitted
22:32.31Croftoncool
22:32.46Croftonthis is entire oe repo?
22:33.04zeckeCrofton: koen's initial commit
22:34.07zeckejust the --remoterev option wasn't too smart...
22:34.20Croftonheh
22:34.39Croftonwhat now?
22:35.41zeckenothing ;) the commit messages are just altered
22:35.48RPIfaistos: That build says it built  "gcc-cross-initial-4.0.2". See above where I suggested you  add PERFERRED_VERSION_gcc-cross-initial = "3.4.4" as well
22:36.28Ifaistosi have added it to the local.conf. should i added it anywhere else ?
22:36.35zeckefrance: ping?
22:36.53CIA-403hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rc6bbbbb1... 10/packages/opie-aboutapplet/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
22:36.53CIA-4opie-aboutapplet 1.2.1: let it show OPIE 1.2.1 instead of OPIE 1.2 (CVS backport)
22:36.53CIA-4taken from .dev
22:36.56RPIfaistos: No, local.conf should have made it build something else...
22:36.57CIA-403hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r5db97260... 10/packages/linux/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
22:36.58CIA-4Akita / Borzoi / Spitz:
22:36.58CIA-4- defconfig changed to include iptables, tun and ipv6 support. (Closing Bug #455)
22:36.58CIA-4- Kernel tested on Akita, no problems but ipv6 and tun modules are auto-installed into the rootfs
22:37.00CIA-4taken from .dev
22:37.08CIA-403hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rf5cec8ba... 10/packages/openswan/ (openswan-2.1.2/flags.patch openswan_2.1.2.bb): dropped openswan 2.1.2 - not fetchable from upstream
22:37.13CIA-403hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r27955fca... 10/packages/openswan/openswan_2.2.0.bb: openswan 2.2.0: fixed SRC_URI - close #630
22:37.16CIA-403hrw 07org.oe.dev * rd051b493... 10/packages/openswan/ (openswan-2.1.2/flags.patch openswan_2.1.2.bb): dropped openswan 2.1.2 - its not fetchable from upstream
22:37.19CIA-403hrw 07org.oe.dev * r674f74b6... 10/packages/openswan/openswan_2.2.0.bb: openswan 2.2.0: fixed SRC_URI - close #630
22:37.24CIA-403nail 07org.oe.dev * r1f08208f... 10/conf/distro/ (debianslug.conf openslug.conf): debian/openslug.conf: Add <DISTRO>_EXTRA_RDEPENDS
22:45.24zeckeCrofton: could you reinitialize the database again?
22:45.32CIA-403mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r7237d2d3... 10/packages/linux/ (3 files in 2 dirs): openzaurus-sa: upgrade wireless extension API to V18
22:45.37CIA-403mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r5531936b... 10/packages/linux/ (2 files): zaurus 2.4 kernels: upgrade wireless extension API to V18
22:45.37Croftonhmmm
22:45.46Croftonlike delete it and make a new one?
22:45.54zeckeCrofton: yes :}
22:46.05Croftonok I just wanted to be certain :)
22:46.35Croftondone
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22:48.28Croftonzecke, I am going home now, I'll check back in later
22:48.40zeckePermission denied: Can't create directory '/var/svn/oe/db/transactions/0-1.txn': Permission denied
22:48.43zeckehmm
22:48.49Croftonhmm
22:49.16Croftontry again
22:49.39Croftonmust remember to make new repo owned by webserver ......
22:50.24CIA-403tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r3e2d2423... 10/packages/twisted/twisted_2.1.0.bb: twisted: add missing dependencies to python-crypto, zope-interface
22:50.28CIA-403tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r71f0f78f... 10/packages/tuxbox/libdvbsi++.bb: libdvbsi++: upgrade to 20060120
22:50.33CIA-403tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * ree966b47... 10/conf/distro/opendreambox-1.2.conf: opendreambox: add machine type to feed URI
22:51.14zeckeCrofton: thanks :)
22:51.21zeckeCrofton: okay now replying each revision
22:52.16CIA-403mickeyl 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * re643b984... 10/packages/linux/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
22:52.16CIA-4zaurus 2.4 kernels: ugprade wireless extension API to V18
22:52.16CIA-4(from .dev)
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23:19.20RPHmm. rmk actually got both my email about the leds subsystem and the resent email asking if he got the first one but hasn't had time to read them yet.
23:22.00CoreDump|homeheh
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23:31.49IfaistosRP: Found what the problem was....
23:32.08IfaistosPREFERED was PERFERED and i copied from here
23:32.36Ifaistosnow it compiles 3.4.4
23:40.33RPIfaistos: ah, sorry about that. I'm pleased you have it working :)
23:42.06Ifaistosno problem. :)
23:42.36Ifaistosbtw once the x86 image is build how is it transfered to a CF/HD ? dd ?
23:45.27RPIfaistos: That would depend on what kind of image it was and how your host system planned to use it
23:45.42RPtarget system even...
23:46.15Ifaistosi am building the epia
23:46.56Ifaistostask-bootstrap
23:47.10RPIfaistos: I know nothing about the epia...
23:47.37Ifaistosits a small x86 board (17x17 cm) with c3 cpu
23:47.56Ifaistoskind of "mini me" pc
23:48.17RPIfaistos: 17x17cm isn't small ;-)
23:48.33Ifaistosfor pc's it is :))
23:49.54RPIfaistos: It depends what you mean by PC I guess. I have one the size of a 3.5" harddisk. My Zaurus is even smaller but not a PC :)
23:50.22Ifaistoslets say in can run even windows hehe
23:50.33RPIfaistos: I'd guess you'd create a image in the form of a tar ball to extract onto the systems HD
23:50.47RPbut I am just guessing...
23:58.21IfaistosRP: Bye and many thanks for the help !

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