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00:08.48 | CoreDump|home | NOTE: package libmimedir-0.3.1+cvs-20060102: completed |
00:10.05 | hrw | CoreDump|home: with branch one or patched? |
00:10.15 | CoreDump|home | pached |
00:10.23 | CoreDump|home | from oe bug notes |
00:10.57 | hrw | I will probably try during next days new fresh build |
00:11.48 | hrw | I'm bit tired of that 3.5.4 releasing.. it's over 9 months already |
00:12.12 | CoreDump|home | http://pastebin.ca/37918 |
00:12.16 | CoreDump|home | hrw: =) |
00:13.20 | hrw | CoreDump|home: I know - I wrote that patch |
00:13.49 | CoreDump|home | that's a diff against branch |
00:14.18 | hrw | so your branch is a bit old |
00:14.43 | CoreDump|home | nope, few hours old actually |
00:15.01 | hrw | http://pastebin.com/516826 is branch one |
00:17.12 | ljp | zecke: motorola started ezx years ago, before qtopia phone was even a thought. that is why they havent used qtopia phone. Archos has very specific needs, more than qtopia pda can provide them. |
00:18.42 | zecke | ljp: ah so my interpreation about this archos mail is right? |
00:19.42 | CoreDump|home | mehhh |
00:20.11 | zecke | cg-log does not work with bsd date :} |
00:20.15 | CoreDump|home | hrw: well my copy is a few hours old. that version of yours was checked in 4hrs ago lol |
00:20.35 | hrw | CoreDump|home: always try with latest source they said... |
00:20.56 | zecke | ljp: even if you don't believe it, I want Qtopia to succeed |
00:21.02 | zecke | ljp: but it will be a tough way |
00:23.16 | hrw | 59 zaurus machines in my spreadsheet.. plus few extra which I do not have in it.. |
00:24.19 | hrw | one day I will drop zaurus line and get normal portrait pda |
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00:28.10 | zecke | RP: oegit is reachable? |
00:28.15 | zecke | ah okay |
00:28.34 | RP | zecke: yes |
00:29.05 | RP | zecke: Have you managed to merge the branch in? |
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00:29.31 | zecke | RP: no I'm searching git version of 776f76fe495350009610233da25b36aa5c732d3f |
00:29.47 | zecke | from 27th of August (but my BSD date is not liked by git log) |
00:30.13 | zecke | RP: I would start with the oz354 branch and then pull anything in from head |
00:30.30 | zecke | http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/revision.psp?id=4f334b998e314ddeafc3f90045f463639dc8bb74 |
00:30.32 | RP | commit 1e2bf5270c6510c14e523733a278873a3f00b19f |
00:30.32 | RP | Author: tailor <jbowler@nslu2-linux.org> |
00:30.32 | RP | Date: Mon Sep 26 23:18:06 2005 +0200 |
00:30.33 | RP | <PROTECTED> |
00:30.33 | RP | <PROTECTED> |
00:30.41 | zecke | thanks |
00:30.45 | RP | I was one step ahead... |
00:30.53 | RP | but it still didn't merge cleanly :-/ |
00:31.17 | zecke | use 'use head' merging strategy |
00:31.39 | zecke | but how does refspec work? |
00:32.28 | RP | refspec? |
00:32.34 | zecke | I'm demanded to go to bed |
00:32.44 | zecke | man git-pull |
00:32.53 | zecke | start:end |
00:32.53 | RP | I'm also too tired to think about this properly :) |
00:33.27 | hrw | git... there is qgit so it will be easier to look/filter through it.. |
00:33.41 | zecke | need to go to bed... |
00:33.44 | zecke | cya tomorrow |
00:34.10 | RP | zecke: same here. 'night! |
00:34.45 | Pendu | hrw: any word? |
00:35.29 | hrw | Pendu: ? |
00:35.35 | Pendu | about the feed |
00:35.44 | Pendu | I gave you my email addy last time we talked |
00:36.06 | hrw | ah.. Pendalar - sorry |
00:37.33 | Pendalar | s'ok =-) just didn't want it to go to waste |
00:38.10 | Pendalar | poo wyvern server is down |
00:39.13 | Pendalar | I know I should probably look to the mailing list but with moving and a new baby I can't really keep up with it |
00:39.20 | Pendalar | and hence pester you =-) |
00:39.30 | hrw | ok - nothing changed ;( |
00:39.41 | Pendalar | was it even debated? |
00:39.45 | Pendalar | or just ignored altogether |
00:40.10 | hrw | tried to get it debated, was ignored |
00:40.18 | Pendalar | -_- |
00:40.52 | emte | hmm |
00:41.07 | emte | prismstumbler seems to have issues i think ... |
00:41.15 | Pendalar | >>OZ.PDAI.ORG 50G transfer, 1.75G diskspace |
00:41.32 | Pendalar | outdated and unusable.. |
00:43.10 | Pendalar | is there someone I should pester specifically hrw? |
00:44.48 | hrw | koen, mickeyl |
00:45.14 | hrw | koen as admin of ewi (main server), mickeyl as OZ main boss |
00:46.03 | Pendalar | it's been some months but I thought mickeyl told me to talk to you.. prob mistaken |
00:46.08 | Pendalar | what's your official status now? |
00:46.18 | hrw | nearly release manager |
00:46.29 | Pendalar | that's make sense then |
00:46.45 | Pendalar | because I need access to the releases and feeds more so than the webpages |
00:47.42 | ljp | zecke: qtopia _is_ succeeding http://www.ehomeupgrade.com/entry/2011/phillips_vp-5500_voip |
00:47.44 | hrw | thats why I posted mail to oz-devel, you, koen in 2005-11-25. to get info who need what.. |
00:48.24 | Pendalar | before it was a bit more simple |
00:48.35 | Pendalar | just had access to oz @ sf account |
00:49.10 | ljp | hmm. try this one http://www.press.ce.philips.com/apps/c_dir/e3379701.nsf/0/053DF324F0787E8BC12570590046EB64?opendocument |
00:49.31 | Pendalar | I want linux on my axim =-( |
00:49.39 | Pendalar | or get my TS fixed on my sl5500 |
00:50.21 | hrw | re |
00:50.28 | hrw | fscking machine died again ;( |
00:51.07 | hrw | Pendalar: I want stable desktop machine ;( |
00:51.23 | Pendalar | windows? |
00:51.27 | hrw | linux |
00:51.36 | hrw | rather hardware problems |
00:51.59 | Pendalar | the only problem I've had with linux locking up was the first box I had .. had faulty usb hardware on the front port |
00:52.10 | hrw | but when I think which I should change in this box I quickly run out of ideas |
00:52.19 | Pendalar | it'd fail to completely boot about every other time, but once I figured it out and disabled.. was good |
00:52.28 | Pendalar | what is it doing? |
00:52.41 | hrw | Pendalar: here if usb die in kernel machine works |
00:53.01 | hrw | Pendalar: from time to time hang hardly - even SysRq does not help |
00:53.30 | Pendalar | I assume you blow it out from time to time |
00:53.52 | Pendalar | sooo.. overheating or power box maybe? |
00:55.07 | hrw | Pendalar: and that the miracle... with one psu it is loud but <50C on cpu. with another its quieter, cpu goes to 60C |
00:55.14 | hrw | hangs in both situations |
00:55.44 | Pendalar | hmm.. |
00:55.57 | hrw | I do not want to exchange case to be able to add some fans in front |
00:56.13 | Pendalar | does it freeze randomly or are you always doing the same thing when it happens? |
00:56.34 | hrw | random and it does not even have to be 100% cpu |
00:57.16 | Pendalar | I assume when this happens you can't ssh in from remote.. |
00:57.25 | hrw | and ofcourse under linux I do not have an option to get dmesg after reboot ;( (or does not found a way for it) |
00:57.37 | hrw | Pendalar: its totally died then |
00:57.55 | Pendalar | how often does this happen? |
00:58.17 | hrw | sometimes few per hour, sometime few per day |
00:58.26 | emte | hrw does your case have usb in the fron and are they connected? |
00:58.32 | emte | front* |
00:58.39 | Pendalar | is it a compaq? heh |
00:59.14 | hrw | emte: it has, and they are connected to mainboard via 10 wires wide cable - each pin separatelly connected to mainboard |
00:59.26 | emte | hrw, try disconnecting them |
00:59.30 | hrw | Pendalar: its no-brand-aq |
00:59.47 | emte | there seems to be a well know issue of problems with them including random lockups |
00:59.56 | hrw | emte: nice idea - too bad that I connect '8-in-1' card read to them |
01:00.10 | emte | none on the back? |
01:00.35 | Pendalar | yeah seriously.. buy you a hub and put in the back ports |
01:00.48 | hrw | emte: back has 4 but is under desk and I have >10 cables at back |
01:01.32 | emte | buy a keyboard with a hub in it? |
01:01.34 | emte | :) |
01:01.53 | hrw | power, mouse, keyboard, collie cradle, ethernet, tv cable, tv remote, tv sound to soundcard loop, few power supplies, vga cable, vga power |
01:02.03 | Pendalar | I have about 40 because 2 of my comps are stacked |
01:02.15 | hrw | emte: microsoft does not made 'natural media keyboard' with hub ;( |
01:02.28 | emte | eww |
01:02.36 | Pendalar | hrw anyways is it dual boot or just linux? |
01:02.54 | hrw | I have desktop under desk + router/AP, cablemodem, subwoofer |
01:03.00 | hrw | Pendalar: I use only linux |
01:03.05 | emte | hmm |
01:03.19 | emte | anuone use a linksys wireless G card? |
01:03.26 | emte | on thier pda |
01:03.30 | Pendalar | I have most of that + dell pda cradle + PAP2/phone |
01:03.36 | Pendalar | and lava lamps.. |
01:03.37 | hrw | emte: I use that ergonomic keyboard(s) since Feb05 |
01:04.19 | hrw | Pendalar: how does pap2 works? I was thinking about voip and pap2 looks like cheapest solution without having computer running |
01:04.33 | Pendalar | it's a gateway |
01:04.42 | Pendalar | ethernet->pap2->regular phone |
01:04.45 | hrw | emte: Agere based one? |
01:04.47 | Pendalar | just handles the proxy info etc |
01:05.02 | emte | not sure ... its a WCF54G |
01:05.07 | Pendalar | I have some linksys wifi CF in a drawer.. use a socket one now |
01:05.08 | hrw | Pendalar: I meant - does it do it well? |
01:05.18 | Pendalar | WCF11 or something don't remember |
01:05.23 | emte | none of the drivers in familiar seem to run it correctly |
01:05.31 | Pendalar | it depends on your provider and the pap2 is locked for vonage |
01:05.33 | hrw | Pendalar: wcf11 is b one |
01:05.39 | Pendalar | unless you are willing to hack / unlock it |
01:05.53 | hrw | Pendalar: I would rather buy non-branded one here |
01:06.02 | Pendalar | I've personally never used vonage, but the provider I use.. which is in california.. I'm in GA |
01:06.04 | Pendalar | sounds perfect |
01:06.06 | emte | you could just buy a linksys/cisco one |
01:06.11 | emte | under $40 |
01:06.19 | Pendalar | but then again I get to use the highest grade codec, which I wouldn't with vonage |
01:06.29 | hrw | emte: you probably need Agere driver - hard to automate |
01:06.37 | Pendalar | I did have a cisco ip phone, it was bulky and non-wireless.. trashed it |
01:06.46 | emte | hrw, page/instructions exist? |
01:07.10 | hrw | emte: yep - google for '0x0156 0x0003 pcmcia' |
01:07.20 | Pendalar | this is hooked up with a 5.8GHz phone .. the codec I use is a lower bandwidth but higher quality |
01:07.21 | emte | Pendalar, the standalone you use with a reg phone? |
01:07.26 | hrw | Pendalar: does 170kbps upload will be enough? |
01:07.47 | emte | hrw, valid for CF as well? |
01:07.51 | Pendalar | yes, and should be depending on codec |
01:08.09 | hrw | emte: it handle pci and pcmcia |
01:08.15 | hrw | emte: and CF == pcmcia |
01:08.18 | Pendalar | I can be downloading on my other 2 boxes and on the phone, don't notice |
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01:08.36 | Pendalar | my codec supposedly only pulls like 8k because of the compression |
01:09.01 | Pendalar | it's hooked up to some bud's * network in cali |
01:09.03 | hrw | ok. first have to buy any headset to test how does it works with softphone |
01:09.34 | Pendalar | it doesn't work with softphones I assume |
01:09.38 | hrw | ok. goes to sleep - 02:10 here |
01:09.45 | emte | hrw, just asking because the pcmcia stuff no longer works in familiar |
01:09.45 | Pendalar | it's got a rj45 in and 2 rj11's out |
01:09.53 | emte | atleast for my sleeve |
01:10.21 | hrw | Pendalar: first I have to test voip at all, then select good provider for voip, then go to buyin pap2 and connect normal phone for it |
01:10.34 | hrw | emte: h3600? |
01:10.40 | Pendalar | there's a few free providers but you have to call "in network" |
01:10.45 | emte | hrw, yeah |
01:10.56 | Pendalar | like stanaphone .. gizmo project |
01:11.17 | Pendalar | this custom I can call them, stanaphone, vonage (sometimes), and others |
01:11.26 | hrw | emte: friend has h3870 + pcmcia/battery sleeve and complain a lot about kernels used in familiar 0.8.2+ |
01:11.34 | Pendalar | oh hrw before you go |
01:11.44 | Pendalar | you could do a simple bash script for your problem |
01:11.50 | Pendalar | assuming you do get a dmesg entry |
01:12.02 | Pendalar | every so many minutes dmesg > file |
01:12.12 | Pendalar | make a trigger for if it reboots, stop |
01:12.13 | emte | hrw, 0.8.2 works fine for me |
01:12.20 | emte | 0.8.3 has huge issues |
01:12.29 | emte | not only with pcmcia |
01:12.35 | Pendalar | you could do it every so many seconds to track the problem |
01:12.38 | hrw | Pendalar: most of calls I have not in network - I have free hours after 20:00 + free weekends (pay extra monthly) |
01:12.46 | Pendalar | with any luck, you'll capture the last dmesg |
01:13.02 | hrw | Pendalar: and have to do it to 'sync' mounted media |
01:13.48 | Pendalar | there might be a better way to do it, but that would work |
01:13.52 | hrw | thx for idea - will try |
01:14.04 | hrw | have a nice day/night |
01:14.07 | Pendalar | tc |
01:14.19 | hrw | ~tv |
01:14.24 | ibot | methinks tv is modprobe bttv msp3400 tuner; wmtvmotv |
01:14.24 | hrw | ~tc |
01:14.26 | ibot | tc is probably the Debian Test Cycle Trafic Control, a program for defining QoS rules in 2.4 (backported?), or in iproute package. |
01:14.40 | hrw | bye |
01:15.06 | Pendalar | ah also get freeworlddialup access on this, not that I know anyone on it |
01:15.15 | Pendalar | er |
01:15.18 | Pendalar | it means take care |
01:16.35 | emte | hrw|gone, before you go, what is the issue with Agere ? |
01:16.45 | emte | the posts say the source is availible |
01:18.41 | emte | hmm |
01:18.46 | emte | Bug solved with latest updates pcmcia-cs 3.2.7-2.1 and kernel 2.6.9-1.724_FC3. |
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01:40.52 | emte | well this is silly ... |
01:41.09 | emte | why is wlan not built for anything besides the 4700? |
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02:19.51 | rwhitby | zecke or koen|sleep: can you do a git-update-server-info in http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/other_scms/git/org.nslu2-linux.dev/ ? |
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02:51.17 | Borealid | hello |
02:53.03 | Borealid | I have a few questions about the packages in the org.openembedded.dev tree |
02:53.16 | Borealid | I'm a Zaurus user, with a borzoi |
02:53.30 | Borealid | and I can't seem to figure out a way to build an X kdepimpi |
02:53.46 | Borealid | nor any version of mplayer not using QT |
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04:40.23 | luke-jr_ | RP: !!! ping |
04:40.48 | luke-jr_ | RP: apparently, C760 has a builtin mic |
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06:49.33 | france | ibot: seen kergoth |
06:49.42 | ibot | kergoth <n=kergoth@c-24-118-213-150.hsd1.mn.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel ##ace, 10d 2h 8m 44s ago, saying: 'no doubt'. |
06:50.11 | Pendalar | err.. did he move again? |
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07:00.10 | emte | no |
07:00.12 | emte | new job |
07:00.22 | emte | some exo-skeleton company |
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07:42.12 | gremlin[it] | hi to all ... |
07:42.37 | gremlin[it] | does someone have try to build familiar-devel for h3600 (kernel 2.4) |
07:43.32 | gremlin[it] | i got this error : |
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07:43.46 | gremlin[it] | ERROR: Nothing provides (2.4.19-rmk6-pxa1-hh37) |
07:43.47 | gremlin[it] | ERROR: dependency (2.4.19-rmk6-pxa1-hh37) (for alsa-driver) not satisfied |
07:44.32 | gremlin[it] | it's normal it state just '2.4.19-rmk6-pxa1-hh37' and not 'kernel_2.4.19-...' ??? |
07:56.16 | emte | familiar dev builds fine |
07:57.04 | emte | as well you may want to check that your not building a 2.6 kernel if you have 2.4 deps |
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08:16.13 | Mardy | hi all |
08:16.51 | NAiL | morning ;) |
08:17.57 | gremlin[it] | emte sure i'm building 2.4 and i what wipe out all my changes ... |
08:18.19 | emte | odd |
08:18.26 | emte | i never had an issue with that |
08:18.38 | emte | built it yesterday |
08:19.29 | gremlin[it] | but is normal bitbake state '2.4.19-rmk6-pxa1-hh37' without kernel in head ? |
08:19.47 | emte | yeah i'd expect so |
08:19.52 | emte | its just a message |
08:20.03 | gremlin[it] | mhh ok ... |
08:20.08 | gremlin[it] | i try to check again ... |
08:20.16 | emte | if you want anything useful look in the log files |
08:20.34 | emte | as opposed to what it generates as an error messgae |
08:20.44 | emte | message* |
08:23.04 | gremlin[it] | ok |
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08:31.46 | Mardy | btw: "kopete" in the dialect of my region means "kill yourself!" :-) |
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08:39.12 | gremlin[it] | again -> ERROR: Nothing provides (2.4.19-rmk6-pxa1-hh37) |
08:40.13 | gremlin[it] | but kernel and modules .ipkg are built !!! |
09:16.38 | CIA-4 | 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * rb83ce79d... 10/ (9 files in 5 dirs): |
09:16.39 | CIA-4 | ixp4xx-kernel: new LED driver in 2.6.15.1 |
09:16.39 | CIA-4 | slugos-init: update for new LED support in 0.10 |
09:16.40 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
09:16.42 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
09:16.44 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
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09:56.02 | Bernardo | good morning |
09:56.02 | gremlin[it] | NOTE: bb.build.FuncFailed:("can't read from file '%s' (%s)", ('/mnt/hda/oe/build/tmp/staging/h3600-linux/kernel/kernel-abiversion', <exceptions.IOError instance at 0x2aaaaeb36b48>)) while evaluating: |
09:56.03 | gremlin[it] | ${@base_read_file('/mnt/hda/oe/build/tmp/staging/h3600-linux/kernel/kernel-abiversion')} |
09:56.21 | gremlin[it] | any clue ? |
09:57.04 | jbowler-away | bad bitbake version? |
09:57.35 | gremlin[it] | mhh as i think i'm doinf svn update now ... |
09:58.00 | jbowler-away | I believe that will happen with any version <334 |
09:59.37 | gremlin[it] | i'm 336 now |
10:01.44 | koen|sleep | good morning all |
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10:02.13 | gremlin[it] | good morning koen ;) |
10:02.18 | koen | hey gremlin[it] |
10:02.44 | koen | RP: do you need a sshv1 or sshv2 key for git? |
10:02.58 | RP | luke-jr_: I've never heard of the c760 having an inbuild mic before... |
10:03.13 | RP | koen: sshv2 please although I can manage with v1 :) |
10:03.27 | hrw | hi |
10:04.03 | hrw | koen: we would need to talk about mirroring OZ from ewi to mirrors |
10:04.48 | RP | hi hrw |
10:05.01 | RP | morning all btw :) |
10:05.16 | hrw | RP: how can I get git tree from ewi? |
10:05.44 | Bernardo | hi RP, koen, hrw |
10:05.50 | koen | hey Bernardo & hrw |
10:05.52 | RP | hrw: You have git installed? |
10:05.52 | hrw | hi Jose |
10:06.00 | hrw | RP: git, cogito |
10:06.30 | hrw | want to test qgit on something other then kernel |
10:06.38 | RP | hrw: Something like "git clone http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/other_scms/git/org.openembedded.dev someplace" |
10:07.06 | hrw | ~lart Debian maintainer of git for lack of deps |
10:07.09 | RP | hrw: and/or send me an ssh key and I can give you access to oegit.rpsys.net (anonymous access isn't sorted yet) |
10:07.21 | hrw | /usr/bin/git-clone: line 26: curl: command not found |
10:07.38 | hrw | RP: ok |
10:08.08 | hrw | fetching. |
10:09.17 | hrw | RP: sent |
10:10.47 | rwhitby | RP is oegit.rpsys.net a unidirectional or bidirectional mirror of monotone? |
10:10.59 | hrw | RP: how long it takes to fetch git tree first time? |
10:11.40 | RP | hrw: However long it takes you to download ~150MB of data |
10:12.36 | RP | rwhitby: Unidirectional unless zecke can talk his conversion program into running the other way |
10:13.05 | rwhitby | ok, so is anyone relying on that repo, or can it be used for testing random pushes? |
10:13.21 | hrw | RP: ok |
10:13.24 | RP | rwhitby: I'll probably add an experimental branch we can mess around with commits yet continue to import history |
10:13.36 | hrw | got it |
10:13.40 | rwhitby | RP: ok, may I send you an ssh key? |
10:13.47 | RP | rwhitby: feel free |
10:14.25 | RP | rwhitby: It only contains .dev at the moment but we're working on importing the other branches |
10:14.54 | RP | rwhitby: I'm not too worried about breaking it as worst case we throw it again and start properly if we do switch to git |
10:15.14 | rwhitby | RP: I only need oe.dev, and zecke has converted o.n-l.dev |
10:15.44 | koen | what is the recommended version of git? |
10:15.51 | koen | koen@bitbake:~/OE/git$ git --version |
10:15.51 | koen | git version 1.0.6 |
10:16.57 | RP | rwhitby: We really need to merge o.n-l.dev and the oz/fam release branch into one git repository but I'm working on this |
10:17.14 | RP | koen: I'm using a snapshot from 20060118 |
10:17.32 | CIA-4 | 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * rbf04667b... 10/packages/linux/ (11 files in 2 dirs): ixp4xx-kernel: merge in changes from CVS to 2.6.15.1 |
10:17.33 | rwhitby | RP: o.n-l.dev is not analogous to o.oe.dev - it's the nslu2-linux MasterMakefile and about 7 other files only. |
10:17.54 | rwhitby | nslu2-linux uses org.oe.dev directly for OE files |
10:18.38 | rwhitby | we also have an org.nslu2-linux.bitbake monotone branch, in which we keep the bitbake that matches the head of org.openembedded.dev |
10:18.59 | rwhitby | (so you can pull both with the one monotone pull and two updates) |
10:19.35 | RP | rwhitby: Ah, I understand. They sound like they might be separate repositorys then |
10:19.59 | RP | (in git terms) |
10:20.28 | rwhitby | yes, org.nslu2-linux.dev would be a separate repository from org.openembedded.dev |
10:20.41 | rwhitby | (and zecke has done that) |
10:20.53 | rwhitby | http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/other_scms/git/org.nslu2-linux.dev/ |
10:20.58 | RP | ok, so it looks like I just need to merge the oz/fam branch in... |
10:21.20 | rwhitby | yeah, all nslu2-linux stuff is always merged. |
10:24.46 | hrw | someone tried xfce-image on device recently? |
10:25.31 | koen | hrw: I only tried the xfce stuff inside gpe-image |
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10:27.12 | Ifaistos | Greetings ! |
10:28.36 | Ifaistos | I am trying to build oe for x86 but it looks like glibc is broken during the toolchain compile |
10:29.19 | Ifaistos | tried a newer glibc as was suggested in some messages but still does not work. any ideas ? |
10:31.02 | hrw | e-image is totally broken in branch |
10:32.37 | RP | hrw, koen, rwhitby : Keys should all be added and working |
10:32.45 | koen | RP: thanks |
10:33.19 | koen | is there a git frasebook to make monotone command to git commands? |
10:33.25 | pb___ | Ifaistos: it's difficult to make suggestions without knowing what the actual problem is. |
10:33.26 | RP | koen: Not yet :) |
10:33.37 | RP | koen: We need to start one :) |
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10:34.47 | Ifaistos | pb: that's true :p |
10:34.49 | RP | koen: I'll make a start on a page |
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10:35.23 | Ifaistos | should i post the build results here or is there a flood bot ? |
10:35.40 | RP | ~pastebin |
10:35.46 | ibot | pastebin is, like, a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/, or http://pastebin.ca |
10:37.31 | Ifaistos | http://pastebin.com/517254 |
10:37.56 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rb0b92ccb... 10/packages/dbh/dbh_1.0-18.bb: |
10:37.56 | CIA-4 | dbh: fix staging |
10:37.57 | CIA-4 | taken from .dev |
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10:38.26 | rwhitby | RP: thx |
10:38.44 | pb___ | Ifaistos: I think 20050917 only works if you select nptl rather than linuxthreads |
10:40.15 | Ifaistos | i found a message related to this |
10:40.18 | Ifaistos | http://www.nabble.com/building-OE-on-Fedora-Core-4-t360150.html |
10:41.27 | Ifaistos | so in the process i made my first .bb :) |
10:41.35 | pb___ | Ifaistos: heh |
10:41.45 | pb___ | try adding GLIBC_ADDONS = "nptl" to your local.conf, see if that helps |
10:42.15 | pb___ | might need GLIBC_EXTRA_OECONF = "--with-tls" |
10:42.16 | pb___ | <PROTECTED> |
10:44.46 | Ifaistos | let me give it a try... |
10:46.55 | RP | hrw, koen, rwhitby: http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/GitScmTrial?action=show |
10:47.34 | RP | I've added some example commands there. Keep in mind I don't understand git myself ;-) |
10:49.04 | RP | Eventually, I'll probably switch to git-shell as the default shell on the server but for now, I'll leave it as bash |
10:49.21 | RP | back shortly... |
10:51.52 | rwhitby | are people using git-core or cogito ? |
10:52.24 | koen | unable to write sha1 filename ./objects/13/7a7a8a0b842a6391312642ba8058a42463cf68: Permission denied |
10:52.28 | koen | fatal: failed to write object |
10:52.44 | koen | when doing git push ssh://koen@oegit.rpsys.net/home/oegit --all |
10:56.03 | rwhitby | RP, koen: added a shortcut to the wiki page for pulling from different remotes |
10:56.17 | rwhitby | e.g.: git pull rpsys |
10:56.18 | koen | cool, thanks |
10:57.14 | rwhitby | that pulls rpsys's repo into an rpsys branch |
10:57.33 | rwhitby | Not 100% sure about the "Pull: " line |
10:59.15 | Ifaistos | btw guys. I made some notes on what packages you need on amd64/ubuntu to get oe going. |
10:59.59 | Ifaistos | should i put them on the wiki or is it too specific ? |
11:00.23 | koen | the wiki would be fine |
11:02.08 | koen | RP: any idea why the push would fail? |
11:03.59 | koen | RP: I suspect I lack write permissions to /home/oegit |
11:09.37 | RP | koen: You are a member of the group and the group should have write access... |
11:11.19 | RP | koen: Ah, my push means the g+w bit was lost. I think we need to do something with the umask |
11:13.21 | Ifaistos | pb: it now fails while build glibc-intermediate |
11:13.26 | Ifaistos | http://pastebin.com/517282 |
11:13.30 | rwhitby | RP: there's something about +x on the update hook |
11:13.36 | rwhitby | let me find it ... |
11:15.38 | rwhitby | yep, chmod +x /home/oegit/.git/hooks/update |
11:17.20 | rwhitby | See Advanced Shared Repository Management in http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/tutorial.html |
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11:19.29 | rwhitby | hmm - that might be post-update instead |
11:21.27 | pb___ | Ifaistos: oh dear. you'll have to inspect the configure script to find out what version of gcc it wants. |
11:21.32 | pb___ | it might be happier with 3.4 rather than 4.0 |
11:26.12 | Ifaistos | pb : thanks. it looks like it :( |
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11:31.44 | koen | RP: ok, first push seems to have worked :) |
11:31.53 | koen | RP: you wouldn't have any gitweb running, would you? |
11:33.22 | RP | koen: not yet. I have that in mind though |
11:35.14 | RP | koen: I think I just need to add umask 775 to the .profile's of users... |
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11:35.24 | RP | hi zecke |
11:35.29 | Ifaistos | one more question :) |
11:35.45 | Ifaistos | the BBFILES line should be like this ? |
11:35.49 | Ifaistos | BBFILES:= ${HOME}/oe/org.openembedded.dev/packages/*/*.bb |
11:36.03 | pb___ | looks about right, yeah |
11:36.11 | Ifaistos | this is for the local.conf |
11:37.17 | Ifaistos | is there a way to scan only arch specific stuff ? now its something like 3000+ files ... |
11:38.07 | pb___ | no, not really |
11:39.10 | Ifaistos | i think i need to switch to a type of coffee that takes longer to make :) |
11:39.50 | pb___ | heh |
11:43.22 | RP | ok, permissions should be ok now |
11:45.31 | Ifaistos | let's say that i get oe to build for the x86. How should the patches be applied upstream so that they don;t break other archs ? |
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11:45.56 | Ifaistos | basicaly how do i make them arch specific |
11:46.57 | gremlin[it] | grrr error again : NOTE: bb.build.FuncFailed:("can't read from file '%s' (%s)", ('/mnt/hda/oe/build/tmp/staging/h3600-linux/kernel/kernel-abiversion', <exceptions.IOError instance at 0x2aaaaeaa5f80>)) while evaluating: |
11:46.57 | gremlin[it] | ${@base_read_file('/mnt/hda/oe/build/tmp/staging/h3600-linux/kernel/kernel-abiversion')} |
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11:48.44 | hrw | re |
11:48.53 | koen | hrw: wb |
11:49.00 | gremlin[it] | hi pH5 hrw |
11:49.31 | gremlin[it] | mhhh i don't have any kernel-abyversion file !!! |
11:52.27 | gremlin[it] | mhhh i don't have any kernel-abiversion file !!! |
11:52.37 | pb___ | !!!!! |
11:52.37 | cdbot | pb___: Don't know, don't care |
11:52.49 | pb___ | tch |
11:53.27 | gremlin[it] | iihihhii :) |
11:54.21 | gremlin[it] | what i can do ... i alreasy update bitbake and oe :( ... |
11:55.22 | pb___ | dunno. it sounds like kernel.bbclass must be busted in some way. |
11:56.05 | gremlin[it] | i never touch it :( :( |
11:59.45 | RP | It sounds like some module is attempting to build before the kernel itself |
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12:01.15 | pb___ | all the modules (theoretically) depend on virtual/kernel, so that shouldn't be possible |
12:04.36 | CoreDump|home | hi |
12:04.50 | hrw | hi CoreDump|home |
12:07.48 | pH5 | hi everyone |
12:12.09 | gremlin[it] | i completelly wipe out tmp dir .. so i'm sure i don't have something strange .... |
12:16.13 | gremlin[it] | last packege build is linux-hotplug ... |
12:16.34 | hrw | cu |
12:16.39 | gremlin[it] | but i can't figure out what is the package that fail :( |
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12:21.34 | zecke | mickey|dinner: I have my flight booked |
12:22.02 | koen | zecke: cool |
12:23.07 | pb___ | zecke: rock. what time do you arrive? |
12:23.31 | zecke | pb___: 22h on friday :} |
12:23.51 | koen | zecke: in time to enjoy some Leffe :) |
12:24.44 | pb___ | okay, very good. at Charleroi, or some other airport? |
12:24.58 | zecke | good question |
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12:26.08 | zecke | pb___: Brussel International Airport (BRU) |
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12:26.50 | pb___ | ah cool |
12:27.13 | pb___ | BRU is much nearer to the city centre than CRL |
12:29.35 | pb___ | so, yeah, you should arrive early enough that mickeyl will not yet have consumed all the Leffe |
12:32.39 | CIA-4 | 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r897657fc... 10/packages/zd1211/ (10 files in 3 dirs): zd1211: Remove old driver, add new (maintained) driver |
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12:39.38 | CIA-4 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * rf9b46277... 10/packages/blueprobe/ (blueprobe-0.17/hx4700.patch blueprobe_0.17.bb): blueprobe: add 0.17 |
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12:45.29 | zecke | RP: did I just push some refs? |
12:48.51 | koen | zecke: I just noticed that I can't say 'qt/e sucks' anymore |
12:49.07 | koen | I now have to say 'qtopia-core sucks' |
12:50.56 | zecke | koen: "X [Windowing System] is braindamaged" Steve Jobs at USENIX conference :} |
12:51.40 | RP | zecke: yes |
12:51.55 | RP | zecke: Well, some objects and you updates master |
12:51.58 | zecke | RP: did you have any luck with merging the branch |
12:52.26 | koen | wow |
12:52.30 | koen | git is way to chatty |
12:52.38 | RP | zecke: I've not tried again yet |
12:52.52 | zecke | RP: what is master and what is origin? |
12:53.08 | RP | zecke: I'm fighting gitweb atm. The machine doesn't have perl :) |
12:53.55 | RP | zecke: I think origin is a pointer to where the tree originally came from (who its parent is) |
12:54.07 | zecke | how do I switch branches? |
12:54.42 | RP | zecke: checkout -b xyz I think |
12:59.38 | zecke | RP: could you give me the objectid of the branch point again? |
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13:12.52 | RP | zecke: 1e2bf5270c6510c14e523733a278873a3f00b19f |
13:13.06 | RP | zecke: http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/GitScmTrial?action=show |
13:13.12 | RP | zecke: Add notes :) |
13:13.25 | zecke | RP: doing a checkout for the branch at the branch point |
13:18.05 | koen | and please add your experiences to http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/GitScmTrial |
13:19.06 | koen | zecke: what scms can we test atm? |
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13:20.19 | zecke | koen: darcs as well |
13:20.26 | CIA-4 | 03nail 07org.oe.dev * rf17d3087... 10/packages/qc-usb/qc-usb-messenger_1.1.bb: qc-usb-messenger: Upstream upgrade (0.8 to 1.1) |
13:20.41 | koen | zecke: is ghc buildable in OE? |
13:20.45 | zecke | koen: if mithro finds a way to resolve the tunnel issue I will have a darcs server as well |
13:20.51 | zecke | koen: dunno |
13:20.52 | koen | zecke: if not, we can skip the test all together |
13:21.03 | mithro | zecke: whats the tunnel issue? |
13:21.32 | zecke | mithro: the tunnel didn't get back up? |
13:21.32 | koen | zecke: there's no point in testing stuff we can't use |
13:21.39 | koen | (we = nslu2 in this case) |
13:21.51 | zecke | koen: well we can add it... |
13:21.52 | mithro | zecke: the tunnel appears to be up |
13:22.27 | mithro | the uml appears dead however |
13:22.33 | zecke | RP: merging seems hard as well |
13:22.44 | zecke | mithro: yes it is halted or such |
13:23.12 | mithro | what cause it to halt? |
13:23.20 | mithro | did you resize your terminal? |
13:23.32 | mithro | UML's dont like it when you do that |
13:23.39 | koen | LOL |
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13:25.17 | RP | http://oegit.rpsys.net:8000/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi |
13:26.21 | koen | hmmm |
13:26.26 | zecke | RP: hmm |
13:26.28 | koen | git uses a bogus author |
13:26.42 | mithro | koen: well it doesn't handle the SIG that is sent on terminal resize |
13:27.02 | gremlin[it] | no way all time same error ... what u need to trace this issue ? |
13:27.23 | mithro | zecke: do you want to kill it and restart? |
13:27.30 | zecke | mithro: will do |
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13:31.17 | mithro | btw darcs is getting git backend support.... |
13:34.36 | zecke | mithro: I need to create some slides first (I need to turn in them tomorrow) |
13:36.33 | zecke | RP: what is the difference between git fetch and pull? |
13:37.00 | koen | zecke: git fetch sends a mail to Larry to lart him |
13:37.06 | RP | zecke: pull = fetch+merge? |
13:37.34 | zecke | koen: what is git lart-larry then |
13:37.56 | koen | zecke: the same, but with a signed-off by: line |
13:41.21 | gremlin[it] | please take a look : http://pastebin.com/517412 |
13:42.53 | zecke | hmm |
13:43.32 | CoreDump|home | is there any documentation for keylaunch / keylaunchrc beside the readme? |
13:45.58 | CoreDump|home | got it, nm |
13:50.52 | koen | heh |
13:51.12 | CoreDump|home | what the hell, couldn't make it harder to at xmodmaps |
13:51.40 | CoreDump|home | now I need to check gpe.bbclass just to find out where the damn thing is downloaded from |
13:52.23 | CoreDump|home | and every xmodmap for every device is installed into the rootfs? |
13:53.55 | koen | CoreDump|home: add the keymap and adjust Xinit.d/12keymap |
13:54.00 | koen | that isn't too hard, right? |
13:55.15 | CoreDump|home | it isn't hard but it's annyoing to read a bbclass just to find out how to do such a trivial thing |
13:55.23 | koen | ? |
13:55.26 | CoreDump|home | the .bb is basically empty |
13:55.43 | CoreDump|home | adds somepatches, no do_install etc |
13:55.55 | koen | why would you need to read a .bbclass? |
13:56.06 | zecke | RP: do you have limited bandwidth? |
13:56.29 | hrw | hi |
13:56.31 | pb___ | zecke: no, he _is_ the internet |
13:56.46 | CoreDump|home | please look at the .bb... it's useless in its current form if you do not want to redo it completly |
13:57.29 | CoreDump|home | everything is done through "inherit" gpe |
13:57.42 | koen | that's the point of classes |
13:58.25 | koen | the easiest way is to make a modmap and send it to Florian |
13:58.28 | CoreDump|home | told ya, need to study the bbclass to do anything with that bb |
13:58.39 | hrw | pb___: question about GPE bugs in OE bugtracker: should reporters be pointed to GPE bugtracker and bugs closed as INVALID or should those bugs be re-assigned to gpe@handhelds.org or other way? |
13:59.04 | koen | hrw: half of them are matchbox bugs and should go into o-hand bugzilla |
13:59.06 | hrw | CoreDump|home: bbclasses are to make recipes simploer |
13:59.15 | CoreDump|home | I understand that |
13:59.35 | CoreDump|home | but unless you know the bbclass inside out, they make them harder to modify / adjust |
13:59.42 | hrw | koen: yep - but now I ask about gpe bugs like #627 |
13:59.46 | CoreDump|home | which was my point =) |
14:00.26 | koen | CoreDump|home: that's not true, you want to add a patch, so you don't needs to read the .bbclass, just a SRC_URI += |
14:00.37 | pb___ | hrw: I don't recommend closing them as INVALID, since this would be unfriendly to the reporters. Assigning them to the person who maintains the appropriate .bb files is probably the right answer. |
14:00.53 | koen | heh |
14:00.54 | hrw | ok - best way |
14:01.01 | koen | not according to reenoo |
14:01.22 | koen | but I won't make any further comments on that |
14:01.44 | pb___ | what would be even better is finding out how to transfer them to the handhelds.org bugzilla, but I don't know how to do that. |
14:02.02 | CoreDump|home | koen: I want to add a new file, not a patch against an existing one. While this _could_ be done with a patch, this is surely the worst way to do it in OE. Not to mention that the bbclass installs every xmodmap for every machine into every rootfs=) |
14:02.15 | koen | ~lart canonical for not opening malone |
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14:02.43 | CoreDump|home | anyways, I'll write the xmodmap and send it to florian as you suggested |
14:02.52 | koen | hrw: #627 is actually an OZ bug |
14:03.04 | pb___ | CoreDump|home: "SRC_URI += ..." is also the correct way to add new files. They don't have to be patches. |
14:03.22 | reenoo | koen: marking valid bugs as invalid is impolite by definition. and again, stop talking shit behind my back |
14:03.35 | CoreDump|home | SRC_URI is useless if you do not know how do_install works in the bbclass |
14:03.46 | zecke | RP: how do I do a merge without knowing the revs? |
14:04.00 | pb___ | that's true, but the .bbclass isn't a large or complicated file. It doesn't seem unreasonable that you need to read it. |
14:04.09 | hrw | re after rebot |
14:04.49 | CoreDump|home | Makes thing more complicated for outsiders. That was the whole point I was trying to make. |
14:04.59 | hrw | koen: how to resolve that? |
14:05.12 | pb___ | fair enough |
14:05.18 | koen | hrw: take a look at the familiar-version.bb |
14:05.30 | hrw | koen: will do |
14:05.37 | ar_ | hi, have problems in bitbake bootstrap-image in org.oe.oz354fam083 |
14:05.45 | ar_ | NOTE: Task failed: Fetch failed: http://www.openswan.org/download/old/openswan-2/openswan-2.2.0-kernel-2.4-klips.patch.gz;patch=1 |
14:05.45 | ar_ | NOTE: package collie-kernel-24-8-2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix-r22: task do_fetch: failed |
14:05.52 | koen | hrw: or stop OE from putting "openembedded' in /etc/issue / motd /something |
14:05.55 | hrw | our busybox need love... "ping: permission denied (are you root?)" |
14:05.58 | ar_ | any ideas? |
14:06.22 | hrw | koen: I have "OpenZaurus 3.5.4 \n \l" in /etc/issue |
14:06.34 | pb___ | hrw: yeah, I noticed that yesterday as well. I suspect the right answer is probably to stop using busybox ping, in fact. |
14:07.22 | reenoo | heh. indeed. you don't want an suid root busybox |
14:07.38 | hrw | pb___: looks like |
14:07.52 | hrw | I'll open bug for it |
14:07.57 | pb___ | thanks |
14:08.35 | pb___ | ping being broken should probably be a blocking bug for familiar 0.8.3 |
14:08.50 | koen | it works if you are root |
14:08.57 | koen | so it's not completely broken |
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14:10.18 | pb___ | true, but gpe-mininet (which doesn't run as root) requires a working ping |
14:10.45 | pb___ | and, generally, users wouldn't expect to need to be root in order to use ping. |
14:11.05 | zecke | RP: hmm merging sucks with git (at least ATM) |
14:11.20 | hrw | Bug 629 has been added to the database |
14:12.27 | pb___ | thanks |
14:12.32 | pb___ | what are the "few other tools" you mentioned? |
14:12.47 | hrw | koen: looked into familiar-version. OPIE sysinfo looks at /etc/familiar-version /etc/oz-version /etc/issue so why not gpe sysinfo? :) |
14:13.08 | hrw | pb___: I'm checking now on device |
14:13.17 | pb___ | okay, cool |
14:13.18 | koen | hrw: gpe-conf looks at something that says 'OpenEmbedded' I guess |
14:13.20 | hrw | pb___: traceroute for example |
14:13.33 | koen | hrw: but shipping an oz-versions would be a good idea anyway |
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14:14.47 | pb___ | actually, it looks like gpe-conf says "OpenEmbedded" if /etc/version exists (irrespective of its contents). |
14:14.52 | pb___ | that seems a little bit broken. |
14:15.01 | koen | heh |
14:15.11 | koen | indeed |
14:15.46 | pb___ | it's overridden by /etc/familiar-version or /etc/debian_version, which is why it wouldn't be showing up on Familiar, but I think the bug is in gpe-conf. |
14:16.06 | koen | so florian lied ;) |
14:17.12 | pb___ | well, he might have been mistaken. or, for that matter, it is quite possible that he was correct and I am mistaken. |
14:18.46 | gremlin[it] | bb.build.FuncFailed: ("can't read from file '%s' (%s)", ('/mnt/hda/oe/build/tmp/staging/h3600-linux/kernel/kernel-abiversion', <exceptions.IOError instance at 0x2aaaaea5ea70>)) |
14:19.11 | gremlin[it] | i don't have build/staging/h3600-linux ;( :( ... |
14:20.10 | pb___ | that is very unfortunate |
14:20.51 | gremlin[it] | yes ... |
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14:22.15 | gremlin[it] | which is kernel for famliar-unstable hh37.4 or hh40 ? (kernel 2.4) |
14:22.46 | CoreDump|home | lol |
14:23.13 | CoreDump|home | was playing with X on my Z when I needed to shut the Xserver down. Guess what I did? Press Ctrl-Alt-BS on my latop *sigh* |
14:24.06 | hrw | CoreDump|home: ;)) |
14:24.07 | pb___ | heh |
14:24.19 | pb___ | gremlin[it]: 40, I think |
14:24.35 | hrw | koen: gpe-sysinfo is in which gpe-tool contained? |
14:24.43 | koen | hrw: gpe-conf |
14:24.52 | hrw | k |
14:24.58 | koen | gremlin[it]: 37.4 for sa, hh39 for pxa |
14:28.24 | RP | zecke: The upstream link from the git server is only 256MBit |
14:28.44 | koen | RP: Mbit?!?! |
14:28.55 | RP | KBit :) |
14:29.00 | koen | aaaah |
14:30.23 | koen | so people should pull from ewi (100Mbit) ? |
14:32.03 | zecke | I have fucked my tree again :} |
14:33.24 | koen | the git tree? |
14:33.36 | zecke | koen: I want a git-unpull |
14:33.41 | koen | that doesn't sound too encouraging |
14:33.54 | zecke | koen: the issue is if you start a pull and needs manual merging |
14:34.01 | zecke | koen: you have almost lost |
14:34.07 | koen | that doesn't sound too encouraging |
14:34.26 | koen | please add that to the experiences |
14:34.33 | zecke | koen: will do |
14:35.07 | RP | zecke: Is this the oz/fam branch merge? |
14:35.39 | RP | zecke: git-revert; git-prune should fix that is it doesn't do what was intended. |
14:36.00 | zecke | RP: but why is there no interactive merge tool? |
14:36.22 | RP | I think we're missing something about doing branching deep in the past. Its not exactly something we'd be doing all the time either... |
14:36.42 | RP | zecke: Good question. I'm sure there will be a way to handle it... |
14:37.20 | zecke | RP: we should have a oz354 branch now in git |
14:37.35 | RP | zecke: You managed to import it? |
14:38.19 | zecke | dunno, I did -s ours on the pull |
14:38.51 | RP | zecke: Its certainly there... |
14:39.32 | zecke | now I would like to see the gitk output... |
14:39.42 | zecke | anyway if we switch SCM I need to hack tailor... |
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14:41.44 | pb___ | bbl |
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14:56.06 | hrw | ~curse my desktop machine |
14:56.11 | ibot | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, my desktop machine ! |
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15:50.31 | hrw | RP: ping |
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15:51.18 | zecke_ | hey mithro |
15:54.28 | zecke_ | automatic cherry pick failed :} |
15:55.32 | pb_ | doh |
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16:01.32 | Crofton | zecke_, I am puzzling out apache and ssl this morning |
16:01.47 | Crofton | Hopefully I have a svn repo later. |
16:01.54 | Crofton | Do I need to worry about svk? |
16:03.42 | zecke_ | Crofton: no ;) |
16:03.51 | zecke_ | Crofton: it just works on top of svn |
16:04.27 | mithro | zecke_: you have 20 minutes with any problems |
16:04.34 | mithro | plus, http://www.cafepress.com/thousandparsec/ |
16:05.24 | zecke_ | mithro: sadly I'm busy with preparing the slides... |
16:08.25 | CoreDump|home | anyone got a link to the new OZ "upgrades" folder? |
16:10.53 | Crofton | zecke_, right answer :) |
16:11.09 | hrw | RP: want to get another sd/mmc subsystem sources? |
16:11.29 | mithro | zecke_: how are you getting to FOSDEM, plane? |
16:13.05 | mithro | i would like to bring a poster to FOSDEM, but I don't have anyway to print it before then, do you think you would be able to print one of for me and bring it? |
16:14.51 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * ra51640b1... 10/packages/linux/ (4 files): openzaurus, opensimpad 2.4 kernels: fixed SRC_URI for openswan patch |
16:16.40 | mithro | welp i'm going to head off to greece now! |
16:16.42 | mithro | have fun everyone! |
16:18.22 | mithro | zecke_: i'll send you an email about the poster |
16:23.59 | zecke_ | mithro: don't get lost! |
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16:27.39 | zecke_ | http://oegit.rpsys.net:8000/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=.git;a=commit;h=25c0148f30400c0bcf4408f13856d34857adc81f |
16:27.43 | zecke_ | that was an easy pick |
16:29.07 | RP | hrw: I'm always interested in that... |
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16:30.00 | hrw | RP: sashz (pdaX) worked on GPL mmc system from montavista - my 1G card is working with it on c760 (under 2.4.20) |
16:31.05 | hrw | RP: http://home.hrw.one.pl/tmp/mmc-pdaXrom-corgi-2.4.20.tar.bz2 |
16:31.22 | RP | hrw: 403 |
16:31.38 | hrw | RP: reload |
16:32.58 | hrw | RP: md5sum of my 1G sd card is same on Z and desktop |
16:34.52 | RP | hrw: got it, thanks. Comparing the two versions isn't going to be easy :-( |
16:35.11 | hrw | RP: I know |
16:35.30 | hrw | RP: I plan to write about it to lakml |
16:35.49 | RP | hrw: Good idea. rmk might be able to see the problem more easily than me |
16:35.56 | hrw | sure |
16:36.02 | hrw | RP: if not him then Pierre |
16:36.18 | RP | hrw: Yes, Pierre seems keen on mmc :) |
16:36.43 | RP | hrw: I'll have a look through it if I get a chance but I'm not sure when that'll be :-( |
16:36.51 | hrw | ok |
16:39.33 | zecke_ | RP: the amount of strcmp and strcpy in git makes me sick... will be fun to review |
16:41.20 | hrw | RP: want Cc: or lakml is enough for you? |
16:47.00 | RP | zecke_: not good :-( |
16:47.16 | RP | hrw: lakml is fine, thanks |
16:47.18 | hrw | RP: sent |
16:47.25 | RP | hrw: cc pierre though |
16:47.31 | hrw | RP: of course |
16:47.39 | hrw | cc: pierre, rmk, sashz |
16:47.49 | zecke_ | RP: git cherry-pick is nice |
16:48.07 | RP | hrw: sounds good :) |
16:48.21 | RP | zecke_: Yes, I thought that might be useful |
16:48.27 | RP | zecke_: rebase looks fun as well |
16:50.39 | zecke_ | RP: I used git-cat-file blob, git-file-ls --unmerged and git-update-index manually... |
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17:18.19 | CIA-4 | 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r208f8ee4... 10/packages/wpa-supplicant/ (6 files in 2 dirs): wpa-supplicant: Upstream upgrade to 0.4.7, add Zydas zd1211-support |
17:18.23 | CIA-4 | 03nail 07org.oe.dev * re8db3dc6... 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Add wpa-supplicant to slugos feed |
17:18.58 | koen | rwhitby, jbowler-zzz: what's your plan for EABI? |
17:20.27 | koen | after 0.8.3 is out I should try to add ekiga to OE |
17:26.20 | jbowler-zzz | koen: my current assumption is that EABI might fix the thumb stuff, so I will ignore it for a while (because if it does it will be very broken initially). |
17:27.19 | jbowler-zzz | I'm tempted at the moment to stop doing anything with uclibc/thumb and just try to fix glibc/arm. |
17:27.24 | koen | jbowler-zzz: Let's see what the debian people find out when they switch |
17:27.43 | jbowler-zzz | My guess is that they will switch back PDQ |
17:28.15 | jbowler-zzz | Doesn't EABI require gcc 4.x? |
17:28.54 | pb_ | either 4.1 or a patched 3.4, yes. |
17:30.23 | jbowler-zzz | Ah... patched 3.4 might be ok for them, but I got the impression that 4.x was actually not compiling a lot of code without patching. |
17:30.44 | koen | including gcc 3.4 itself :) |
17:31.01 | pb_ | 4.0 has been the default in debian for a while, I think |
17:31.51 | pb_ | a few packages don't build with it, but it isn't a large enough number to lose any serious amount of sleep over |
17:31.52 | jbowler-zzz | rwhitby seemed to be using it, so maybe they've overcome the problems - I guess on the packages which actually work on ARM matter. |
17:32.06 | jbowler-zzz | s/guess on/guess only/ |
17:32.39 | jbowler-zzz | Worth a try then, if it doesn't compile gcc it gets my vote |
17:33.02 | pb_ | tch. I do wish riker would turn that "s/" thing off again, it's very annoying. |
17:34.40 | jbowler-zzz | Which glibc version has EABI support? |
17:34.52 | koen | cvs > 20051214 |
17:35.43 | jbowler-zzz | So that would be 2.3.5+cvs20051214? |
17:35.46 | koen | http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/pda/files/angstrom-eabi-r7.diff.bz2 was my latest attempt to add it to OE |
17:36.50 | koen | that predates the glibc cvstree change |
17:36.58 | koen | moving the cvsdate to januari should fix that |
17:37.03 | pb_ | bbiab |
17:37.07 | koen | cu |
17:38.25 | jbowler-zzz | Is that on a branch in the OE servers? |
17:39.14 | RP | zecke_: oegit shouldn't have an origin branch, just a master :-/ |
17:39.19 | koen | no, a diff against .dev (20051216) |
17:39.49 | zecke_ | RP: did I push an origin? |
17:39.53 | zecke_ | :} |
17:42.03 | RP | zecke_: No, I created it when I cloned ewi :) |
17:42.16 | zecke_ | ah hehe |
17:42.23 | zecke_ | git branch -d origin |
17:43.16 | koen | jbowler: I had hoped it that eabi stuff would be easy to add and apply it to .dev |
17:43.24 | RP | zecke_: The idea is you never develop on a branch you pull from. by default git clone creates an orgin and a master. When fetching, it pulls from the remote master into origin, then applies those changes to the local master... |
17:44.38 | RP | origin is gone. That was surprisingly painless :) |
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17:46.44 | jbowler | RP: I've got a set of patches which make an ixp4xx LED driver and then have three board level patches to use this for the LEDs on the specific boards (loft - an avila, nslu2 and nas100d, the latter not tested yet). |
17:47.10 | jbowler | Seems to all work fine - current NSLU2 monotone head builds use it for the startup stuff. |
17:47.33 | jbowler | Oh, in fact, all slugos builds do so long as there is an LED labelled 'ready' |
17:48.04 | hrw | hmm. time to watch some kind of movie |
17:48.09 | jbowler | Patches are in: packages/linux/ixp4xx-kernel/2.6.15/9[46]*.patch |
17:48.17 | RP | jbowler: Excellent :). I need to make some small tweaks to the led patches, then I'll repost to LKML and try to work out what mainline are going to do... |
17:48.29 | jbowler | s/9[46]/9[56]/ |
17:49.26 | jbowler | RP: you are welcome to add those patches if you wish. The 96* patches are dependent on board level patches we have already, but the 95 (generic) one should be clean. |
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17:49.45 | hrw | RP: let input use led system.. |
17:49.54 | jbowler | I did modified the led_device name field to be (const char*) (from (char*)) so that I could use the LED resource name. |
17:50.33 | do13 | Hi all |
17:50.40 | hrw | hi dirk |
17:50.42 | koen | hey do13 |
17:50.53 | do13 | Hi koen, hrw |
17:50.54 | RP | hi do13 |
17:50.59 | do13 | Hi Richard |
17:51.05 | RP | jbowler: Were there any other changes? |
17:51.21 | jbowler | No |
17:51.52 | RP | jbowler: If they apply to code in mainline and you're happy for them to be submitted, it makes the patches looks slightly less zaurus biased :) |
17:51.54 | jbowler | A change to include/linux/leds.h, a new leds-ixp4xx-gpio.c in drivers/leds and the appropriate Makefile/Kconfig |
17:52.22 | jbowler | I'm happy - they've got the Signed-off-by line in already |
17:52.35 | RP | excellent - I'm just monotone pulling :) |
17:53.56 | jbowler | I considered, but didn't implement, a generic "struct resource gpio_resource" so that different GPIO pin users wouldn't grab the same pin, the resource stuff is currently 'blind' at present (i.e. the 'parent' pointer remains NULL). |
17:54.17 | jbowler | I didn't want to start making changes to the ixp4xx core code. |
17:55.10 | RP | That is a bit ugly in theory on the pxa devices as well. In practice, the drivers are so hardware specific, I've never seen a conflict... |
17:55.43 | RP | Except for the serial port mess... |
17:56.53 | jbowler | Yes, the primary reason for using a resource is just to pass in the information from the board saying which pins are connected to which LEDs (and whether they are ACTIVE_HIGH or ACTIVE_LOW). |
17:57.27 | jbowler | ixp4xx boards differ so much in the connections that the approach you took would result in massive code duplication |
17:58.48 | RP | There is a fair bit of duplication between corgi and spitz. I decided the two drivers weren't worth trying to make common code for though... |
17:59.29 | jbowler | Right, and it avoided having to define a way to pass the information through platform_data |
18:01.35 | jbowler | There's still some data-space duplication in each machine description because each one has a separate platform_device (though only one), but that's inherent in the architecture. |
18:03.48 | jbowler | I'm going to remove the buzzer "LED" from 96-nslu2-leds.patch - it works (with timer and frequency about 10) but it duplicates functionality in another module (one which had got compiled out). |
18:04.05 | zecke_ | RP: I really begin to hate the git merging skills... |
18:04.12 | RP | jbowler: Looking at the code, is the error handling in the probe function correct? If a registation fails, you return without unregistering any previously registered LEDs? |
18:04.34 | jbowler | Look at the call immediately before the 'return rc' |
18:04.58 | jbowler | It sets 'name' on the one which failed to NULL then calls remove which iterates through everything just added. |
18:05.08 | jbowler | Saves code over a while --i loop |
18:05.54 | hrw | ok. time to make some OZ branding work for opie/gpe |
18:06.05 | RP | jbowler: Yes, I see :) |
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18:06.48 | RP | jbowler: It looks good :) |
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18:09.07 | zecke_ | RP: and then one understands it... git merging... |
18:09.44 | koen | bbl |
18:09.46 | gremlin[it] | guy i found the reason of my problem, a package is build before kernel ...but it need kernel :( :( :( ... |
18:10.09 | jbowler | RP: I just realised that it would be possible to use command line options too in the board level, just allocate (struct resources[16]) with empty names and fill in the names from the command line, led:ready=3 for example. |
18:10.24 | jbowler | Or led:3=ready |
18:10.38 | gremlin[it] | i build kernel by hand (bitbake -b ) and i go further .... now another issue but i try |
18:13.17 | RP | jbowler: You could do that. That isn't much use on something like the zaurus but it might work for you... |
18:14.01 | jbowler | RP: it works badly for NSLU2 (where the command line can't be changed) and well on Loft, where it can and where there is a general purpose GPIO header on the board. |
18:14.35 | jbowler | Well, something for the future - it's not necessary for me atm |
18:15.42 | RP | We can't change the CMDLINE easily on the zaurus without recompiling... |
18:16.59 | RP | jbowler: One other tiny thing - you've used : in the jumper names for loft. I was aiming to allow : as a separator in the name to dnote properties like led colour |
18:17.26 | jbowler | RP: ok - I used '-' elsewhere so I'll change that. |
18:18.02 | jbowler | In fact, I'll remove the J8 stuff, it was only in there because I had a bug with multiple resources which was easier to debug on Loft (there is only one LED on loft) |
18:18.15 | jbowler | And the command line option is better |
18:18.18 | RP | It was that or have a ton of get attributes that returned things like colour which looked like a waste of space to me |
18:18.54 | zecke_ | RP: hmm git-merge-index calls git-merge-recursive with the wrong arguments |
18:19.09 | zecke_ | git-merge-index -o is not working |
18:19.38 | RP | zecke_: On your machine or on oegit? |
18:19.49 | jbowler | RP: you should probably not attempt to push the Loft patch, because I think it has got to the point where Deepak will want it outside ixdp425-setup.c |
18:19.49 | zecke_ | on my machine ;) |
18:19.50 | RP | or everywhere? :) |
18:20.03 | zecke_ | RP: just for people that are too used to GNU utils |
18:20.17 | RP | jbowler: I'll just take the general driver and leave the machine specific bits to you |
18:20.18 | jbowler | RP: and the nslu2 and nas100d patches prove that the code works on multiple ARM systems. |
18:20.32 | mickeyl | evening |
18:20.36 | pb__ | hail mickeyl |
18:20.39 | mickeyl | jbowler: is the nas100d a recommendable device? |
18:20.41 | mickeyl | hi pb_ |
18:20.43 | jbowler | Right - that's what I assumed, I figured you might want to show an example of the driver use though. |
18:20.44 | zecke_ | mickeyl: hey, I vae my flight booked |
18:20.49 | mickeyl | zecke_: very good |
18:20.56 | RP | jbowler: Do you mind if I import the const leds.h change into my main led patches, just so it looks tidier? |
18:20.58 | jbowler | mickeyl: I believe it is discontinued, and mine doesn't boot yet. |
18:21.06 | RP | hi mickeyl |
18:21.10 | jbowler | RP: no problem |
18:21.16 | mickeyl | zecke_: you'll go straight to Rue d'espagne and we can handle your luggage then, ok? |
18:21.21 | mickeyl | Roy D'espagne even |
18:21.23 | mickeyl | hi rp |
18:21.35 | mickeyl | jbowler: oh, ok. thanks. i guess the 200d is too expensive for me, it's interesting hardware though |
18:22.09 | mickeyl | hrw|gone: ping |
18:22.49 | do13 | Hi mickeyl |
18:23.33 | mickeyl | hey do13, how are things? |
18:23.34 | jbowler | mickeyl: they discounted the price a lot in the US, then it was worth buying |
18:23.57 | mickeyl | ah yeah |
18:24.07 | mickeyl | like the SIMpad. it was a joke @ 1000EUR, but cool @ 300 |
18:24.27 | zecke_ | mickeyl: I will try to get there then... maybe I need to get a palm+tomtom to find the way |
18:24.58 | zecke_ | RP: okay the merging capabilities are promising, not too well documented but not worse than csv |
18:25.08 | zecke_ | <<<<<<< .merge_file_V91P3t |
18:25.08 | zecke_ | <PROTECTED> |
18:25.08 | zecke_ | ======= |
18:25.08 | zecke_ | <PROTECTED> |
18:25.09 | zecke_ | >>>>>>> .merge_file_7CAIfO |
18:25.10 | mickeyl | zecke_: if you can afford the 25 EUR just take a taxi from the airport to the grand place. the roy d'espagne is directly there |
18:25.42 | zecke_ | mickeyl: yeah will do so... FOSDEM will be my birthday present |
18:25.53 | mickeyl | zecke_: ah right, what's the exact date? |
18:26.21 | jbowler | mickeyl: I believe NAiL saw a rebadged version from someone else (not sure about this), that might imply IOMega sold the design to someone, but of course the price then goes back up... |
18:26.23 | zecke_ | somewhen this year ;) |
18:26.34 | zecke_ | ljp: How could I run Opie on Qtopia 1.7? |
18:27.02 | mickeyl | zecke_: heh. tell me :) |
18:27.09 | zecke_ | ljp: I would really appreciate it, you once look at library... |
18:27.13 | zecke_ | mickeyl: 26th of January |
18:27.27 | mickeyl | ah that soon |
18:27.28 | zecke_ | I will get 14 :} |
18:27.32 | mickeyl | heh no way |
18:27.38 | mickeyl | 24 ? |
18:27.49 | zecke_ | 23 |
18:27.54 | mickeyl | hmm *sigh* |
18:27.58 | mickeyl | all these young folks |
18:27.59 | zecke_ | *fucking old* |
18:28.02 | mickeyl | hah |
18:28.02 | zecke_ | oops |
18:28.41 | RP | zecke_: That looks better. Given it can create files for comparision for a merge, hacking git to launch meld on the files shouldn't be impossible... |
18:28.57 | zecke_ | RP: hehe can you hack shell scripts? |
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18:29.22 | RP | zecke_: yes ;-) |
18:29.26 | zecke_ | woot |
18:29.50 | zecke_ | maybe we should open a OE git tree... |
18:30.17 | RP | You mean an anonymous one? |
18:30.35 | zecke_ | RP: OE version of 'git' |
18:30.47 | RP | ah, right :) |
18:30.49 | zecke_ | RP: to use lua scripting to call meld, kdiff3 and such |
18:31.14 | zecke_ | mickeyl: I have bought a book about Death March Projects |
18:31.15 | RP | zecke_: I suspect if we wrote nice patches, it would get accepted into git mainline |
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18:31.31 | zecke_ | RP: they are welcome to pull from our tree |
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18:31.43 | do13 | mickeyl: bussy |
18:32.20 | zecke_ | Summary: Merging OZ3.5.4 with HEAD is not working automatically (yet) |
18:32.26 | do13 | mickeyl: Did you booked your flight to Brüssel? |
18:32.53 | mickeyl | do13: yep. done. I'll arrive Friday at 20:00 and will depart Sonday at 19:00 |
18:33.22 | do13 | mickeyl: Which airline? |
18:33.54 | mickeyl | do13: Lufthansa, LH 4582 / LH 4587 |
18:34.20 | mickeyl | oh, i'll arrive 17:15 on friday... leaves me more time to checkin |
18:35.02 | mickeyl | do13: 194,87 EUR in total. |
18:35.36 | mickeyl | might get something cheapear with other airlines, but I support the local economy |
18:35.37 | mickeyl | heh |
18:36.31 | do13 | mickeyl: Yep I found the same price. |
18:38.06 | do13 | mickeyl: Maybe I can book the same flight. Which hotel did you booked? |
18:38.20 | mickeyl | do13: astridhotel.be |
18:38.42 | RP | do13: I added the two patches of yours (bl and pm) to the oe kernel tree btw. My c3000 still appears to be working although I haven't had a chance to full test yet |
18:38.46 | mickeyl | do13: 400 meters from the Grand Place - a good location for the evenings so the way to bed is not far :) |
18:39.10 | do13 | mickeyl: thanks |
18:39.14 | mickeyl | np |
18:42.02 | do13 | RP: OK. If the bl works we can push this patch. |
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18:42.23 | mickeyl | jbowler: do you know if anyone has sound working with the nslu yet? I'm still looking for a custom built audio streamer device in my home |
18:42.59 | do13 | RP: The pm needs more changes. I have a newer patch in my tree. |
18:43.32 | RP | do13: Can you make sure to reference include/asm-arm and not include/asm? |
18:44.42 | do13 | RP: oops. |
18:47.34 | gremlin[it] | no way ... i got at end the same error --> ERROR: Nothing provides (2.4.19-rmk6-pxa1-hh37) |
18:47.55 | RP | do13: Feel free to push the bl patch (and add a signed-off-by line from me). I've just double checked the c3000 and its fine |
18:48.30 | RP | do13: I've been caught out by the symlinks before ;-) |
18:48.34 | pb__ | mickeyl: do you know where I might find some pre-release 3.5.4 gpe images for my shepherd? |
18:49.18 | Crofton | zecke, you about? |
18:51.56 | do13 | RP: Thanks. I'll do this next weekend. This week I'am on a business trip. |
18:52.08 | zecke_ | Crofton: yes |
18:53.10 | Crofton | https://ossie-dev.mprg.org/repos/oe/ |
18:53.19 | Crofton | need to work out access controls though |
18:53.45 | zecke_ | Crofton: good start |
18:54.31 | Crofton | I'm going to remember the acess stuff now |
18:54.31 | RP | pb__: I think you'd need to ask hrw|gone where he's got the test images stashed :) |
18:54.40 | pb__ | okay |
18:54.47 | pb__ | hrw|gone: where have you got the test images stashed? |
18:54.48 | Crofton | http://ossie-dev.mprg.org:8080/timeline |
18:54.49 | mickeyl | pb_: i think hrw did some.... now where is the url... |
18:54.56 | Crofton | zecke, can you make a login here? |
18:55.09 | Crofton | The password setup stuff isn;t ssl though |
18:55.10 | zecke_ | RP: I'm having kdiff3 called from merge-one-file |
18:55.12 | RP | pb__: I'd guess somewhere on ewi546... |
18:55.33 | zecke_ | Crofton: I got the listing without any pw |
18:55.38 | RP | zecke_: I wondered about that... |
18:56.10 | Crofton | yeah, but I suspect you can't write :) |
18:58.42 | pb__ | RP: ah, thanks |
18:59.19 | RP | pb__: I'm not sure that's for public release but I doubt hrw will mind you trying one ;-) |
18:59.36 | RP | google know everything :) |
18:59.40 | pb__ | heh |
18:59.46 | pb__ | okay, excellent |
18:59.57 | pb__ | maybe I should try the opie images as well, just to see what life is like on the other side |
19:00.09 | zecke_ | Crofton: should I try to commit some stuff? |
19:00.54 | pb__ | can someone remind me what the magic key sequence is to flash a shepherd? |
19:01.17 | Crofton | well, you can try |
19:01.24 | Crofton | but I think something is broke ... |
19:01.28 | Crofton | I am trying now |
19:02.18 | zecke_ | Crofton: which password? |
19:02.29 | zecke_ | Merging back to mirror source https://ossie-dev.mprg.org/repos/oe. |
19:02.30 | zecke_ | Authentication realm: <https://ossie-dev.mprg.org:443> OSSIE |
19:02.30 | zecke_ | Password for 'ich': |
19:04.07 | zecke_ | RP: do you know how to discard a cset? |
19:04.42 | Crofton | zecke, you can make a username at http://ossie-dev.mprg.org:8080/timeline |
19:05.02 | Crofton | don't use a good pw if you are paranoid as the setup isn't over ssl |
19:05.13 | Crofton | the rest of it should be good though |
19:06.33 | zecke_ | Crofton: how do I know if this pw is valid? |
19:06.46 | zecke_ | Crofton: I'm getting a 500 Internal Server Error |
19:06.50 | Crofton | smae here |
19:07.07 | Crofton | give me a few |
19:07.11 | Crofton | minutes |
19:07.43 | zecke_ | hmm I need to do an assignment now |
19:07.47 | Crofton | heh |
19:07.50 | Crofton | so do I |
19:07.56 | Crofton | progress report crap for some pref |
19:08.01 | Crofton | er professor |
19:08.07 | Crofton | I'll get repo running first |
19:08.13 | Crofton | very close |
19:09.51 | Crofton | thats better, now I just forbidden :) |
19:10.42 | pb__ | ah, here we go |
19:11.44 | zecke_ | Crofton: right |
19:12.44 | Crofton | now I just need to figure out per directory access file voodoo |
19:12.57 | pb__ | hm, this doesn't look good |
19:13.04 | pb__ | I still have an upside down "gpe 2.6" splash screen |
19:13.46 | pb__ | oh, heh, forgot to rename the rootfs |
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19:18.25 | pb__ | ah, now I seem to be completely hosed |
19:18.29 | zecke_ | Crofton: 500 error |
19:19.49 | pb__ | kernel panic :-( |
19:19.57 | Crofton | ah but you can read :) |
19:21.21 | RP | zecke_: I'm not sure |
19:25.14 | zecke_ | Crofton: forbidden again |
19:25.19 | Crofton | yeah |
19:25.27 | Crofton | give me a little while |
19:25.33 | zecke_ | don't hurry |
19:25.37 | Crofton | need to figure out where the issue lies |
19:25.40 | Crofton | heh |
19:25.47 | zecke_ | I will SWING a bit |
19:25.53 | Crofton | cool |
19:26.24 | Crofton | I have it working on a non ssl machine .. |
19:30.17 | luke-jr_ | can someone w/ commit access please enable IPv6 and SSL in curl? |
19:33.20 | CIA-4 | 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * rb6b0df14... 10/packages/linux/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
19:33.20 | CIA-4 | Akita / Borzoi / Spitz: |
19:33.20 | CIA-4 | - defconfig changed to include iptables, tun and ipv6 support. (Closing Bug #455) |
19:33.20 | CIA-4 | - Kernel tested on Akita, no problems but ipv6 and tun modules are auto-installed into the rootfs |
19:34.42 | hrw|gone | pb__: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/oz3.5.4-test-images/ |
19:34.47 | hrw | morning |
19:34.55 | pb__ | hrw: thanks |
19:35.13 | pb__ | I tried the gpe-image from there, but my test was... unsuccessful. |
19:35.22 | mickey|dinner | hrw: morning. what's the time frame for 3.5.4? Let me know when I can tag and do the world build. I did it two weeks ago, but since then many changes hit oz354fam083 |
19:36.06 | hrw | mickeyl: this changeset which coredump just did need propagate |
19:36.58 | hrw | mickeyl: I have patch for gpe-conf to show 'distribution:openzaurus', have to add openzaurus-version package (which just add /etc/openzaurus-version), patch for libopie so opie-sysinfo also use /etc/openzaurus-version |
19:37.32 | hrw | mickeyl: there are some bugs in bugtracker which would be nice to get closed - like 'composite in gpe' one |
19:38.09 | RP | pb__: Any idea what the problem was? |
19:38.35 | pb__ | RP: "VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(31,2)" |
19:38.36 | hrw | mickeyl: and we have to decide about mirroring - it was easy on sf.net where anyone can get ssh account and run own software |
19:39.00 | CoreDump|home | http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=620 |
19:39.13 | CoreDump|home | GPE has a nifty little tool for that ^ ^ |
19:39.33 | hrw | CoreDump|home: on you shots I saw opie-sh script for it.... |
19:39.37 | hrw | your |
19:39.47 | CoreDump|home | heh right |
19:39.54 | CoreDump|home | DEPENDS: opie-sh |
19:40.09 | hrw | I have similar one for 2.6 usb-gadget control |
19:40.15 | hrw | and cpufreq |
19:40.24 | CoreDump|home | cpufreq? neat! |
19:40.41 | mickeyl | hmm... i don't know why all insist on /etc/$DISTRO-version. I thought using /etc/issue was enough *shrug* |
19:40.50 | RP | pb__: Did you use the rootfs.tar.bz2 file or the initrd.bin file as initrd.bin? |
19:41.11 | pb__ | RP: ah, whoops, the .tar.bz2 |
19:41.14 | pb__ | I guess that was a dim plan |
19:42.04 | hrw | mickeyl: I was thinking like that too - our images get oe-version which gpe-conf/sysinfo takes to tell 'disttro: OE' |
19:42.11 | RP | pb__: We've all done it :) |
19:42.31 | pb__ | heh |
19:42.55 | hrw | heh.. I aired this room and cpu goes to 40C.. soon will be 55C anyway |
19:43.33 | pb__ | mickeyl: for your interest, the list of outstanding familiar 0.8.3 bugs is at http://handhelds.org/~bugzilla/showdependencytree.cgi?id=1334 |
19:43.39 | pb__ | I guess some of those probably apply to oz as well |
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19:44.57 | hrw | 1459 and newer for sure |
19:45.29 | mickeyl | pb_: i see. thanks. yeah. |
19:45.37 | CoreDump|home | "useless distinction between "Utilities" and "Other"." Indeed heh |
19:47.12 | pb__ | is there a magic sysrq key on modern zaurus kernels? |
19:47.26 | pb__ | (or some other way to reboot a crashed machine without taking the battery out) |
19:47.45 | mickeyl | 1364 is fixed |
19:47.49 | mickeyl | python-datetime |
19:47.58 | pb__ | rock |
19:48.19 | hrw | pb__: right japanese+home == sysrq |
19:48.41 | pb__ | I had a "clever plan" for avoiding 1385 by generating the locales at build time using qemu, but unfortunately it seems that qemu's arm emulation is not equal to that task |
19:48.43 | pb__ | so, such |
19:48.46 | pb__ | suck, even |
19:48.58 | mickeyl | hmm yeah that's unfortunate. what options do we have left then? |
19:49.14 | pb__ | hrw: thanks |
19:49.27 | hrw | pb__: np |
19:49.33 | pb__ | it says "SysRq : Resetting", but... it doesn't seem to actually be resetting |
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19:49.41 | pb__ | so, that's not quite as great as I had hoped |
19:49.42 | pb__ | heh |
19:49.49 | hrw | pb__: sometimes it does not work (resetting) |
19:49.53 | pb__ | ah |
19:49.57 | jbowler | mickeyl: using NSLU2 as an music server is pretty straightforward (mpd?), people have discussed usb audio output devices on the nslu2-linux mailing list - I think they work, I'm not sure (I haven't followed the discussions). I believe rwhitby has also looked at things which have built in audio output capability. |
19:50.46 | pb__ | mickeyl: no easy options that I can think of. |
19:50.53 | mickeyl | jbowler: i guess i could just buy a usb audio device - their cheap these days |
19:51.15 | pb__ | obviously one could either (a) fix qemu so it works, or (b) fix localedef to use less ram, but neither of those sound very straightforward |
19:51.25 | RP | pb__: Each iteration of zaurus does different things in the bootloader upon a watchdog reset (which is what the kernel does to reset by default). c760 works, c700 was a bit weird and I've never had a c750 to see that that does |
19:51.55 | zecke_ | pb__: what does not work with qemu? |
19:52.03 | pb__ | zecke_: qemu segfaults |
19:52.23 | zecke_ | oh |
19:52.34 | pb__ | yeah |
19:53.04 | gremlin[it] | where i can look to solve this issue ??? ERROR: Nothing provides (2.4.19-rmk6-pxa1-hh37) ERROR: dependency (2.4.19-rmk6-pxa1-hh37) (for alsa-driver) not satisfied |
19:53.08 | hrw | mickeyl: could you take care about WE18 and wireless-tools? 594, 595 and check 538? |
19:53.18 | mickeyl | hrw: sure. i'm on it as we speak |
19:54.15 | hrw | great |
19:54.55 | RP | gremlin[it]: Looks like a bug in alsa-driver - it should probably be something like kernel-image-2.4.19-rmk6-pxa1-hh37 |
19:55.19 | CIA-4 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r655180ca... 10/packages/wireless-tools/ (wireless-tools_28-pre6.bb wireless-tools_28-pre13.bb): |
19:55.19 | CIA-4 | wireless-tools: upgrade 28pre6 to 28pre13 |
19:55.19 | CIA-4 | the header includes have been removed, so the fixheader patch is no longer necessary |
19:55.24 | pb__ | excellent, now it really is booting |
19:55.39 | pb__ | I wonder what takes so long in there. |
19:55.40 | RP | gremlin[it]: alsa-driver is probably at fault with your earlier build error as well |
19:55.41 | hrw | mickeyl: add it into branch |
19:56.37 | mickeyl | what's our policy again? do i need to add it to our meta-bug or can i commit right away? |
19:57.01 | hrw | commit |
19:57.07 | mickeyl | excellent |
19:57.24 | pb__ | heh |
19:57.31 | pb__ | mickeyl: it's your branch, I guess you can do what you like |
19:57.52 | RP | mickeyl: I think its just us mere mortals that need to use the meta-bug :) |
19:57.56 | mickeyl | hehe |
19:58.00 | mickeyl | always trying to be polite here ): |
19:58.01 | mickeyl | :) |
19:58.12 | pb__ | hehe |
19:58.47 | zecke_ | -20 degree tomorrow... I think I'm staying home |
19:59.00 | hrw | zecke_: -22 here but I have to go to work... |
19:59.04 | gremlin[it] | RP uhhh the .bb file for alsa driver is quite incomprensible for me ... :( ... |
19:59.22 | CIA-4 | 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * r90e5eaef... 10/packages/linux/ (4 files in 2 dirs): ixp4xx-kernel: update LEDs patches, add NSLU2 beeper back in to 2.6.15.1 |
19:59.51 | hrw | heh.. forgot about few commits... |
19:59.58 | pb__ | hm, I see that oz enables the matchbox compositor out of the box |
20:00.05 | mickeyl | bbi1h |
20:00.10 | pb__ | I'm not sure that's a great plan; it introduces a few nasty artifacts |
20:00.58 | RP | gremlin[it]: It inherits module so it should get the dependencies right :-/ |
20:01.24 | CIA-4 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * ra5db6230... 10/packages/wireless-tools/ (wireless-tools_28-pre6.bb wireless-tools_28-pre13.bb): |
20:01.24 | CIA-4 | wireless-tools: upgrade 28pre6 to 28pre13 |
20:01.24 | CIA-4 | (from .dev) |
20:01.38 | hrw | pb__: you sure that it does not left from previous installation? |
20:01.53 | pb__ | ah, maybe it was |
20:02.26 | hrw | pb__: thats why collie is my favorite fresh install platform - no /home partition |
20:02.32 | pb__ | heh, right |
20:02.51 | pb__ | I forgot /home isn't wiped on the shepherd |
20:03.02 | hrw | pb__: it is on ipaq? |
20:03.12 | pb__ | some of them, yeah |
20:03.33 | pb__ | iirc, only h3970, h5500 and hx4700 have a persistent /home |
20:03.51 | pb__ | oh, and h5400 |
20:05.16 | pb__ | also, the lcd on my shepherd has an interesting "shimmer" effect now. I don't remember seeing that on older versions. |
20:05.51 | RP | echo 1 > /sys/device/platform/w100fb/fastpllclk or whatever it is... |
20:08.09 | pb__ | yeah, that does make it better |
20:08.38 | pb__ | it's still there, but not really noticeable anymore unless you're looking for it. That's probably how it was before. |
20:09.19 | hrw | flashing collie with more up-to-date image (but not quite up-to-date anyway) |
20:10.54 | Crofton | zecke, try commiting now |
20:11.19 | pb__ | hrw: it would be nice to have sylpheed back in the shepherd gpe-image, if there's room for it |
20:11.45 | hrw | pb__: how big rootfs is there? |
20:11.52 | zecke_ | Crofton: I'm pushing now... |
20:12.08 | pb__ | hrw: I have 4264kb free on mine |
20:12.21 | pb__ | out of 25600kb total, apparently |
20:12.27 | zecke_ | Crofton: but I will need to rm it... |
20:12.38 | hrw | and again users will complain about full rootfs... |
20:12.47 | Crofton | thats fine |
20:12.54 | Crofton | I ahve a bogus dir in now |
20:14.16 | pb__ | hrw: how much space do they need to be available before they quit complaining? |
20:14.59 | hrw | pb__: dont know - I was looking only at collie where tried to get atleast 1M |
20:15.46 | Crofton | zecke, can you confirm you have write access? I may need to restart server |
20:15.51 | pb__ | ah. well, I imagine you should still have at least a couple of megs free after installing sylpheed. it's not _that_ big. |
20:15.59 | zecke_ | Crofton: I'm comitting to it |
20:16.03 | hrw | pb__: ok |
20:16.06 | Crofton | oko |
20:16.06 | zecke_ | Crofton: so I can confirm it |
20:16.09 | Crofton | ok |
20:16.23 | pb__ | hrw: incidentally, you could win some space back by ditching openswan, which doesn't even seem to run with the kernel that you ship. |
20:16.23 | Crofton | just checking if I need to restart server after i update svn access file |
20:16.52 | pb__ | including ipsec out of the box is awesome, but in this day and age you would probably be better off with racoon and 26sec. |
20:17.09 | hrw | pb__: ipsec is gone from images already (but not from test ones) |
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20:17.13 | Crofton | I have killed two birds with one stone today :) |
20:17.39 | pb__ | hrw: ah, ipsec is removed altogether? that's a shame. |
20:17.50 | hrw | pb__: blame koen |
20:18.04 | hrw | I was planning to remove it only from collie |
20:18.49 | hrw | btw.. who maintain gpe-image/meta-gpe? I added sylpheed there but dont know does it was correct way |
20:19.37 | pb__ | florian, probably |
20:20.36 | zecke_ | Crofton: I try to svk smergee everything into your repo |
20:20.42 | hrw | ok |
20:20.43 | zecke_ | Crofton: this will be a good test for svk as well |
20:21.09 | zecke_ | Crofton: it is way slower than git... (as one can't simply copy the 'revs') |
20:21.15 | Crofton | ok |
20:21.42 | Crofton | have you committed yet? I don't see anything ... |
20:21.54 | zecke_ | so this might take some time, if not I did something wrong |
20:21.59 | Crofton | ok |
20:22.00 | zecke_ | Crofton: the first rev is 34 mb in size |
20:22.13 | zecke_ | and then I hope 3??? will follow |
20:22.17 | Crofton | we have space and bw |
20:22.50 | Crofton | ok |
20:23.01 | Crofton | I see ssl_access_log messages :) |
20:23.52 | Crofton | with svn+svk, we could use svk to push to main oe repos |
20:23.58 | Crofton | but use svn locally? |
20:25.35 | hrw | pb__: sylpheed is small - added |
20:25.54 | hrw | atleast in branch |
20:25.58 | zecke_ | Crofton: otherway around |
20:26.12 | Crofton | hmm |
20:26.15 | zecke_ | Crofton: you mirror the central OE server and sync it into your depot |
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20:26.23 | hrw | hi Pigi |
20:26.28 | zecke_ | Crofton: then you do svk cp //oe-central //my-oe-work |
20:26.30 | Pigi | Ciao all |
20:26.32 | Pigi | hi hrw |
20:26.46 | hrw | Pigi: which ipkg you suggest to use for stable: .154 or .156? |
20:26.48 | Crofton | but then people can use svn againest my-oe-work? |
20:26.48 | zecke_ | Crofton: you check out //my-oe-work and commits, moves and then you do 'push' |
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20:27.19 | zecke_ | Crofton: they could, if you make the svn revs available again |
20:27.26 | Pigi | I think 156 should be ok, but if pb_confirm the new mods, then I will release a new 157 that would speed up a bit something. |
20:27.27 | zecke_ | Crofton: svk uses 'svn' to store the data |
20:27.30 | Crofton | basically, we use svn locally and it would be a win for me if I could hide the svk part :) |
20:27.53 | zecke_ | Crofton: then use svk only for merging ;) |
20:27.58 | Crofton | yeah |
20:28.08 | zecke_ | Crofton: svk smerge //local-group //remote-group |
20:28.18 | zecke_ | Crofton: svk smerge //remote-group //local-group |
20:29.21 | Crofton | besides hosting the server, I may have to try this |
20:29.46 | Crofton | although my opinion shouldn't carry too much weight |
20:29.53 | hrw | Pigi: ok |
20:30.04 | zecke_ | Crofton: all opinions are equally weighted |
20:30.40 | Crofton | I just need to scm stuff to calm down, the monotone "blow ups" have me out of sync :( |
20:30.56 | Crofton | and I spend more time than I should dealing with scm issues than work :( |
20:31.15 | hrw | each time we release OZ/Fam we change scm |
20:31.16 | zecke_ | :( |
20:31.28 | Pigi | pb_ ping |
20:31.28 | zecke_ | monotone might win :) |
20:31.55 | Crofton | hopefully it gets faster :) |
20:32.20 | pb__ | hi pigi |
20:32.43 | Pigi | hi pb__ ! Did you got some time to test the ipkg modified ? |
20:33.01 | pb__ | I tested it a bit, and it seems fine so far |
20:33.45 | Pigi | good. I will release it then for the stable image .... |
20:33.50 | Crofton | the win from the svn point of view is that I already can deal with it pretty good |
20:34.11 | Crofton | of course, I was figuring out monotone ok also |
20:34.12 | hrw | zecke_: we need to patch opie-aboutapplet... it tell about opie v1.2 not v1.2.1 ;) |
20:34.30 | pb__ | Pigi: okay, great |
20:34.50 | gremlin[it] | hi Pigi |
20:34.55 | Pigi | hi gremlin[it] |
20:36.28 | hrw | we should have ~1.5M free on collie now |
20:37.23 | gremlin[it] | maybe this is an issue for u -> ERROR: Nothing provides (2.4.19-rmk6-pxa1-hh37) |
20:37.24 | gremlin[it] | ERROR: dependency (2.4.19-rmk6-pxa1-hh37) (for alsa-driver) not satisfied |
20:37.29 | gremlin[it] | Pigi |
20:38.11 | Pigi | should it be an error for me ? can I ask you why ? |
20:38.19 | Pigi | s/error/issue |
20:39.37 | gremlin[it] | maybe if is an issue of alsa-driver ... i try to take a look to the .bb file and it state u are the manteiner |
20:39.39 | gremlin[it] | :) |
20:40.35 | pH5 | gremlin[it]: this sounds like it is an issue with bitbake, maybe you still have an old version without the explode_deps code? |
20:40.55 | gremlin[it] | pH5, i did svn update this morning |
20:40.57 | rwhitby-away | mickey|bbl: nas100d is in the kernel, but the RTC and IDE support are not there yet. We're waiting for hardware to be delivered to dwery for the IDE support, and the RTC support depends on the new RTC subsystem. |
20:42.10 | Pigi | well, I used to be the "importer" for alsa, sometime ago, but after that someone other took the bb maintaing. I will try to give a look at it, but I'm not sure I will have much free time in the next days |
20:43.05 | gremlin[it] | ah ok Pigi ... don't worry :) |
20:43.14 | Pigi | np |
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20:51.33 | Pigi | hrw, 0.99.156 is out. |
20:51.38 | Pigi | s/156/157 |
20:53.39 | hrw | Pigi: its suggested version to normal use? |
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20:56.29 | LoDown | anyone here have an H5000 series ipaq? |
20:57.58 | LoDown | hm |
20:58.34 | LoDown | why would the LCD of my ipaq work with the old familiar 0.8.2 images, but not with the newest images made from OE? |
20:58.53 | hrw | kernel changed? |
20:59.31 | LoDown | what is the newest kernel? |
20:59.31 | hrw | heh.. looks like I fscked one pacakge |
21:00.06 | LoDown | because the kernel of the workable image is 2.4.19-rmk6-pxa1-hh40 |
21:00.07 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r37a4377a... 10/packages/meta/gpe-image.bb: gpe-image: added sylpheed for bigflash devices |
21:00.29 | Crofton | zecke_, still ticking along |
21:00.48 | hrw | http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/revision.psp?id=8aba06fecc0a39a0ccb881cbff7993804b834529 - someone has idea how to make it work as I expect? |
21:02.23 | tyz | hi....i just got setup for devel on my ipaq h5550. Can someone tell me, what are most developers doing as far as testing/trying out new code. If i have to install it on actual device each time, this seems very tediuos. I feel like there must be an emulator, or way to run a image locally....? |
21:02.40 | zecke_ | Crofton: yes |
21:03.12 | Crofton | its not using any cpu |
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21:04.50 | CoreDump|home | hrw: is sylpheed working for you? |
21:05.21 | pb__ | tyz: what do you plan to develop? |
21:05.41 | pb__ | generally, you can just compile and run the code on your regular computer. |
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21:06.33 | tyz | pb_: currently i need to work on the wlan driver, mmc in kernel. i'll probably work on things based mostly in the console, not gui |
21:08.04 | hrw | argh.. desktop crashed twice in a row... |
21:09.29 | pb__ | for drivers, you have no option but to test on the real hardware. |
21:11.12 | tyz | okay, i guess i'll just copy the new packages over and try my changes as required. I've found bugs in opie/console i'd like to fix.. is there anyway to run/boot opie locally? |
21:11.22 | RP | gremlin[it]: It looks like a version error it wants -hh37 and I suspect something else like -hh40 is built. The kernel-abiversion file in staging is probably therefore stale. Why is the question you'll have to answer |
21:12.59 | hrw | CoreDump|home: sylpheed works on my c760 (atleast start) |
21:13.06 | CoreDump|home | hmmmm |
21:13.21 | CoreDump|home | doesnt work for me. just freezes |
21:13.48 | pb__ | check that you don't have the compositor enabled |
21:14.05 | CoreDump|home | well, built from 354 branch |
21:14.21 | CoreDump|home | so it's enabled I think |
21:15.07 | zecke_ | *Yeah Fight Club* |
21:15.08 | pb__ | if you get drop shadows under pop-up menus, it's enabled |
21:15.50 | CoreDump|home | pb_: yep, it's active then. Can it be turned off? |
21:16.14 | pb__ | yeah, use the "visual effects" checkbox under "look and feel" in the settings menu |
21:16.28 | pb__ | you may need to restart X after turning it off if everything goes black |
21:16.42 | zecke_ | pb__: you look too much like an english hooligan :} |
21:16.51 | pb__ | zecke_: appearances are not deceptive |
21:16.53 | CoreDump|home | ugh |
21:17.03 | CoreDump|home | X just crapped its pants |
21:17.15 | Crofton | looks like this? |
21:17.16 | Crofton | http://www.elvisgrotto.com/fractbx.gif |
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21:18.05 | CoreDump|home | lol |
21:18.24 | hrw | ~kill cvs |
21:18.28 | ibot | ACTION shoots a inverse neutrino gun at cvs |
21:18.41 | LoDown | hey...what package provides the kernel? |
21:18.50 | CoreDump|home | pb__: excellent. that worked, thanks! |
21:19.06 | pb__ | CoreDump|home: very good |
21:19.09 | CoreDump|home | hrw: we should probably turn that of in branch |
21:19.16 | pb__ | as you may gather, the matchbox compositor is a bit buggy |
21:19.33 | hrw | CoreDump|home: patches welcome. you know that I'm not gpe user |
21:19.37 | CoreDump|home | indeed |
21:19.47 | CoreDump|home | neither am I heh |
21:19.56 | pb__ | sadly it's been that way for about a year and a half and the matchbox crew don't seem to have much interest in fixing it |
21:20.34 | CoreDump|home | slows things down anyway |
21:20.34 | RP | pb__: Is that bug in the bugzilla? |
21:21.04 | pb__ | RP: dunno. I think it pre-dates the establishment of the openedhand bugzilla, but it might be in the handhelds.org one. |
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21:22.20 | RP | pb__: I'd suggest adding it to the OH bugzilla, then we can't claim not to know about it ;-) |
21:22.39 | pb__ | heh |
21:22.48 | pb__ | yeah, sounds like a good plan |
21:23.22 | pb__ | I guess I'll have to do some testing to remind myself what the actual bug is. I think it's something along the lines of matchbox just plain forgetting to draw certain windows. |
21:23.52 | pb__ | iirc, the reason for the sylpheed "freeze" is that it sits there waiting for you to click OK on a modal dialog, but the dialog doesn't actually show up on the screen. |
21:24.06 | pb__ | if you manage to guess where the OK button is and click there, it will proceed happily. |
21:24.10 | RP | pb__: That sounds sensible. The more comprehensive the bug report, the more likely the problem will get fixed... |
21:24.58 | pb__ | to be honest, though, the compositor doesn't bring a whole lot of benefit right now so I'm not too bothered about it. |
21:25.17 | hrw | ~lart monotone revert for monotone: misuse: unknown path 'packages/opie-aboutapplet/packages/wireless-tools/wireless-tools_28-pre6.bb' |
21:25.30 | pb__ | the only real driver for using Composite would be to get support for ARGB windows, and the matchbox compositor doesn't support those anyway. |
21:26.58 | pb__ | it also produces this unpleasant visual effect when popping up a menu, where the area is briefly filled with garbage before being drawn correctly. |
21:26.58 | gremlin[it] | RP : only -hh37 is build ... |
21:26.58 | pb__ | so, all in all, best to turn it off :-} |
21:27.11 | RP | pb__: It does sound like there is a bug there so filing a bug and then changing the default options in OE sounds like the best course of action |
21:28.16 | gremlin[it] | now i try to build -hh40 and see what happen ... |
21:28.22 | RP | pb__: I know our matchbox .bb files have subtle differences to the ones on OE, I don't know enough about it say whether the ones in OE are more or less correct for OE |
21:28.47 | pb__ | RP: it'd be interesting to see the diffs |
21:29.07 | pb__ | afaik, there isn't anything very wrong with the ones in OE, but that's not to say that yours aren't better |
21:29.57 | pb__ | actually, that's not quite true: OE builds without xsettings, which has always seemed like a bug |
21:30.31 | LoDown | please, what .bb file handles the kernel? |
21:30.58 | pb__ | LoDown: any of the ones in the linux directory |
21:31.13 | gremlin[it] | LoDown, depend on machine but all is in packeges/linux dir |
21:31.50 | LoDown | ok...thank you |
21:32.53 | RP | pb__: The composite tag is missing for a start :) |
21:33.06 | zecke_ | RP: git-http-fetch just segfaulted :} |
21:33.55 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r8846b4fd... 10/packages/opie-aboutapplet/ (2 files in 2 dirs): opie-aboutapplet 1.2.1: let it show OPIE 1.2.1 instead of OPIE 1.2 (CVS backport) |
21:34.09 | LoDown | ok...this is really weird...older images for my ipaq built with kernel hh40 |
21:34.13 | LoDown | and the touchscreen worked |
21:34.30 | LoDown | but the new images (touchscreen not working) build with kernel hh39-r1 |
21:35.15 | RP | zecke_: oops :) |
21:35.29 | RP | pb__: http://sam.rpsys.net/matchbox.diff |
21:36.03 | RP | pb__: You'll have to filter out the CVS->SRC changes but its readable enough |
21:36.22 | Ifaistos | Greetings to all ! |
21:37.33 | pb__ | RP: thanks |
21:37.56 | pb__ | yeah, most of that looks in order. |
21:38.06 | pb__ | I wonder why OE uses --disable-cairo with matchbox-keyboard. |
21:38.13 | Ifaistos | pb__: I think i found why the the x86/epia do not build. its gcc 4.x |
21:38.25 | pb__ | Ifaistos: ah |
21:38.44 | Ifaistos | is there a way to force oe to use gcc 3.4.5 |
21:39.39 | RP | Ifaistos: I don't think we have 3.4.5. PERFERRED_VERSION_gcc-cross = "3.4.4" in your local.conf should help though. |
21:39.43 | JustinP | ....? I believe OE uses GCC3 internally by default.... |
21:39.59 | RP | JustinP: It's DISTRO dependent |
21:40.05 | JustinP | ah yes |
21:40.48 | LoDown | another question...where is the kernel version being set? I don't see it in machine or distro |
21:41.10 | hrw | LoDown: you set preffered kernel and bitbake use newest one by default |
21:41.18 | RP | LoDown: Look for PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel |
21:41.20 | LoDown | hmm... |
21:41.30 | hrw | LoDown: use PREFERRED_VERSION_virtual/kernel = "2.0.36" |
21:41.36 | LoDown | so...why would hh39-r1 be newer then hh40? |
21:42.12 | Ifaistos | hmmm ubuntu has 3.4.5... i'll give it a try and then try to get 3.4.4 from source to compile it if it fails... hope it does not |
21:42.36 | RP | Ifaistos: 3.4.5 should be straight forward to add |
21:43.11 | tyz | i'm using breezy you can install 2.95 3.3 3.4 and default it 4 |
21:43.28 | tyz | not sure on hoary if they have other vers packaged up |
21:43.41 | hrw | CoreDump|home: could you look on #608? |
21:44.52 | CoreDump|home | hrw: well I'm seeing the same here |
21:45.10 | Ifaistos | tyz: the 3.4 is 3.4.5 :( |
21:45.13 | CoreDump|home | on collie, too |
21:45.31 | hrw | CoreDump|home: heh.. |
21:45.55 | hrw | sharp - I 'love' you |
21:46.18 | hrw | CoreDump|home: pushed your defconfig changes to branch |
21:46.21 | LoDown | hrw: newest from monotone, or newest on my harddrive? |
21:46.23 | CoreDump|home | ty |
21:46.47 | RP | Ifaistos: Why the need for 3.4.5? OE should just compile its own compiler and not care too much about what's on your system? |
21:46.54 | hrw | LoDown: newest in OE metadata |
21:47.17 | LoDown | hm...ok |
21:48.08 | Ifaistos | it stops when configuring glibc-intermediate :( |
21:48.11 | Ifaistos | http://pastebin.com/517282 |
21:48.34 | tyz | ahh yeh. i've built opie-image gpe-image successfully with hmm shoot it was 3.4.5 or 3.3 on ubuntu, though i tried again after recent update some things were broken. |
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21:50.54 | RP | Ifaistos: Change to a 3.4 based gcc-cross-initial |
21:55.08 | zecke_ | pb__: thanks I have now swap on nbd |
21:55.21 | Ifaistos | i am trying with PERFERRED_VERSION_gcc-cross = "3.4.4.... lets see if this works |
21:55.41 | pb__ | zecke_: rock |
21:56.00 | zecke_ | pb__: now I need to see if it deadlocks |
21:59.42 | koen | hrw: if you need me to do some stuff, please e-mail me, I will be away from irc for the next 3 days |
21:59.59 | zecke | koen: cya! |
22:00.02 | hrw | koen: ok will remember |
22:00.09 | Ifaistos | nop... it did not work... :( |
22:00.11 | hrw|gone | cu |
22:00.16 | koen | cu |
22:00.43 | RP | Ifaistos: add PERFERRED_VERSION_gcc-cross-initial = "3.4.4" as well |
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22:08.55 | Crofton | zecke, I guess this is faster than monotone :) |
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22:14.17 | zecke | Crofton: well I do not think many people will sync from ewi to your server ;) |
22:14.43 | Crofton | heh |
22:14.50 | Crofton | does it pull faster? |
22:15.05 | Crofton | I am just wondering what is slowing things down? |
22:15.21 | zecke | Crofton: svn normal speed, svk well network io for the revs |
22:15.29 | Crofton | yeah |
22:15.31 | zecke | Crofton: dunno, could be my uploading speed |
22:15.58 | zecke | Crofton: maybe I will take my ethernet cable with to get 100mbit in uni |
22:16.00 | Crofton | I am on 10MBps ethernet |
22:16.11 | Crofton | all other links should be good for me |
22:17.11 | Crofton | The real test is how fast people can make local copies |
22:18.29 | Crofton | what operation are you doing at the moment? |
22:19.27 | zecke | svk smerge -B /oe/convert_oe /oe/crofton-svn |
22:22.37 | Pigi | nite all |
22:22.39 | Ifaistos | RP: No luck... :( |
22:23.08 | Ifaistos | i had a look and it default to "gcc" which is 4.0.1 |
22:24.25 | RP | Ifaistos: "gcc" or "gcc-cross" (or "gcc-cross-initial") ? |
22:25.28 | Ifaistos | no i meant the it compiled gcc-initial with the default gcc |
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22:25.58 | Ifaistos | wait a sec to get a copy of the build |
22:26.18 | RP | Ifaistos: and that didn't work? I guess 3.4 might not compile with 4.0 :-/ |
22:26.56 | RP | Ifaistos: You might have to make your system default to use a 3.x compiler... |
22:28.31 | Ifaistos | i think so too.... do you think if i do a symlink (gcc -> gcc-3.4.5) to a dummy dir and add it infont of the path. to wotk ? |
22:29.06 | RP | Ifaistos: I don't know. You could try... |
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22:29.58 | Ifaistos | does oe have a "hard" gcc path or its uses the system path to execute ? |
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22:30.11 | RP | Ifaistos: system path |
22:30.35 | Ifaistos | hmmm it might work then. I'll give it a try |
22:31.26 | Ifaistos | here is the build |
22:31.28 | Ifaistos | http://pastebin.com/518136 |
22:32.12 | zecke | Crofton: https://ossie-dev.mprg.org/repos/oe/ |
22:32.17 | zecke | Crofton: first revision comitted |
22:32.31 | Crofton | cool |
22:32.46 | Crofton | this is entire oe repo? |
22:33.04 | zecke | Crofton: koen's initial commit |
22:34.07 | zecke | just the --remoterev option wasn't too smart... |
22:34.20 | Crofton | heh |
22:34.39 | Crofton | what now? |
22:35.41 | zecke | nothing ;) the commit messages are just altered |
22:35.48 | RP | Ifaistos: That build says it built "gcc-cross-initial-4.0.2". See above where I suggested you add PERFERRED_VERSION_gcc-cross-initial = "3.4.4" as well |
22:36.28 | Ifaistos | i have added it to the local.conf. should i added it anywhere else ? |
22:36.35 | zecke | france: ping? |
22:36.53 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rc6bbbbb1... 10/packages/opie-aboutapplet/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
22:36.53 | CIA-4 | opie-aboutapplet 1.2.1: let it show OPIE 1.2.1 instead of OPIE 1.2 (CVS backport) |
22:36.53 | CIA-4 | taken from .dev |
22:36.56 | RP | Ifaistos: No, local.conf should have made it build something else... |
22:36.57 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r5db97260... 10/packages/linux/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
22:36.58 | CIA-4 | Akita / Borzoi / Spitz: |
22:36.58 | CIA-4 | - defconfig changed to include iptables, tun and ipv6 support. (Closing Bug #455) |
22:36.58 | CIA-4 | - Kernel tested on Akita, no problems but ipv6 and tun modules are auto-installed into the rootfs |
22:37.00 | CIA-4 | taken from .dev |
22:37.08 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rf5cec8ba... 10/packages/openswan/ (openswan-2.1.2/flags.patch openswan_2.1.2.bb): dropped openswan 2.1.2 - not fetchable from upstream |
22:37.13 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r27955fca... 10/packages/openswan/openswan_2.2.0.bb: openswan 2.2.0: fixed SRC_URI - close #630 |
22:37.16 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rd051b493... 10/packages/openswan/ (openswan-2.1.2/flags.patch openswan_2.1.2.bb): dropped openswan 2.1.2 - its not fetchable from upstream |
22:37.19 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r674f74b6... 10/packages/openswan/openswan_2.2.0.bb: openswan 2.2.0: fixed SRC_URI - close #630 |
22:37.24 | CIA-4 | 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r1f08208f... 10/conf/distro/ (debianslug.conf openslug.conf): debian/openslug.conf: Add <DISTRO>_EXTRA_RDEPENDS |
22:45.24 | zecke | Crofton: could you reinitialize the database again? |
22:45.32 | CIA-4 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r7237d2d3... 10/packages/linux/ (3 files in 2 dirs): openzaurus-sa: upgrade wireless extension API to V18 |
22:45.37 | CIA-4 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r5531936b... 10/packages/linux/ (2 files): zaurus 2.4 kernels: upgrade wireless extension API to V18 |
22:45.37 | Crofton | hmmm |
22:45.46 | Crofton | like delete it and make a new one? |
22:45.54 | zecke | Crofton: yes :} |
22:46.05 | Crofton | ok I just wanted to be certain :) |
22:46.35 | Crofton | done |
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22:48.28 | Crofton | zecke, I am going home now, I'll check back in later |
22:48.40 | zecke | Permission denied: Can't create directory '/var/svn/oe/db/transactions/0-1.txn': Permission denied |
22:48.43 | zecke | hmm |
22:48.49 | Crofton | hmm |
22:49.16 | Crofton | try again |
22:49.39 | Crofton | must remember to make new repo owned by webserver ...... |
22:50.24 | CIA-4 | 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r3e2d2423... 10/packages/twisted/twisted_2.1.0.bb: twisted: add missing dependencies to python-crypto, zope-interface |
22:50.28 | CIA-4 | 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r71f0f78f... 10/packages/tuxbox/libdvbsi++.bb: libdvbsi++: upgrade to 20060120 |
22:50.33 | CIA-4 | 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * ree966b47... 10/conf/distro/opendreambox-1.2.conf: opendreambox: add machine type to feed URI |
22:51.14 | zecke | Crofton: thanks :) |
22:51.21 | zecke | Crofton: okay now replying each revision |
22:52.16 | CIA-4 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * re643b984... 10/packages/linux/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
22:52.16 | CIA-4 | zaurus 2.4 kernels: ugprade wireless extension API to V18 |
22:52.16 | CIA-4 | (from .dev) |
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23:19.20 | RP | Hmm. rmk actually got both my email about the leds subsystem and the resent email asking if he got the first one but hasn't had time to read them yet. |
23:22.00 | CoreDump|home | heh |
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23:31.49 | Ifaistos | RP: Found what the problem was.... |
23:32.08 | Ifaistos | PREFERED was PERFERED and i copied from here |
23:32.36 | Ifaistos | now it compiles 3.4.4 |
23:40.33 | RP | Ifaistos: ah, sorry about that. I'm pleased you have it working :) |
23:42.06 | Ifaistos | no problem. :) |
23:42.36 | Ifaistos | btw once the x86 image is build how is it transfered to a CF/HD ? dd ? |
23:45.27 | RP | Ifaistos: That would depend on what kind of image it was and how your host system planned to use it |
23:45.42 | RP | target system even... |
23:46.15 | Ifaistos | i am building the epia |
23:46.56 | Ifaistos | task-bootstrap |
23:47.10 | RP | Ifaistos: I know nothing about the epia... |
23:47.37 | Ifaistos | its a small x86 board (17x17 cm) with c3 cpu |
23:47.56 | Ifaistos | kind of "mini me" pc |
23:48.17 | RP | Ifaistos: 17x17cm isn't small ;-) |
23:48.33 | Ifaistos | for pc's it is :)) |
23:49.54 | RP | Ifaistos: It depends what you mean by PC I guess. I have one the size of a 3.5" harddisk. My Zaurus is even smaller but not a PC :) |
23:50.22 | Ifaistos | lets say in can run even windows hehe |
23:50.33 | RP | Ifaistos: I'd guess you'd create a image in the form of a tar ball to extract onto the systems HD |
23:50.47 | RP | but I am just guessing... |
23:58.21 | Ifaistos | RP: Bye and many thanks for the help ! |