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| 08:00.42 | Ifaistos | goodmorning all ~ |
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| 09:11.11 | hrw|work | dzien dobry |
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| 09:17.36 | greentux | morning mallum |
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| 09:18.20 | XorA | greentux: morning |
| 09:18.28 | hrw|work | hi greentux |
| 09:19.06 | greentux | has somebody a running qt/e opera? i read about th sdk... |
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| 09:29.28 | mallum | hey greentux |
| 09:29.57 | doppiaemme | Hi all! Is a common issue having problems building glibc-2.3.5+cvs20050627 for x86 ??? |
| 09:30.15 | XorA | doppiaemme: you using .dev? |
| 09:30.19 | doppiaemme | yes |
| 09:30.28 | XorA | doppiaemme: with latest svn bitbake? |
| 09:31.08 | doppiaemme | yes I reinstalled all OE just yesterday so I svn'ed bitbake yesterday |
| 09:32.04 | doppiaemme | bitbake always fails with: NOTE: package glibc-2.3.5+cvs20050627: failed |
| 09:32.08 | XorA | doppiaemme: ok, thats no 1. easy trap to fall over |
| 09:32.25 | XorA | doppiaemme: I beleive onlythe epia machine is actively supported as x86 in OE |
| 09:32.54 | greentux | hi mallum |
| 09:32.54 | XorA | personally I only do arm builds |
| 09:35.03 | doppiaemme | oh... damn! I'd like to buil a very basic image for x86.... |
| 09:35.39 | doppiaemme | and then apply the correct configured kernel for epia and geode |
| 09:39.00 | XorA | doppiaemme: you should be able to copy the needed stuff from epia to a more basic config |
| 09:39.52 | doppiaemme | you mean from conf/machine/epia.conf? |
| 09:40.10 | Ifaistos | dopiaamme: You need to add these to your local.conf |
| 09:40.15 | Ifaistos | PREFERRED_VERSION_gcc-cross-initial = "3.4.4" |
| 09:40.15 | Ifaistos | PREFERRED_VERSION_gcc-cross = "3.4.4" |
| 09:40.15 | Ifaistos | PREFFERED_VERSION_gcc-cross-kernel = "3.3.4" |
| 09:40.15 | Ifaistos | PREFERRED_VERSION_gcc-cross-sdk = "3.4.4" |
| 09:40.15 | Ifaistos | PREFERRED_VERSION_gcc-native = "3.4.4" |
| 09:40.16 | Ifaistos | PREFERRED_VERSION_gcc = "3.4.4" |
| 09:40.24 | XorA | doppiaemme: yes, or under some _epia overrides in the glibc .bb, there is obviouly some special hacks for making it compile |
| 09:41.04 | Ifaistos | i have been "battling" with x86 and epia for almst a week now |
| 09:41.12 | doppiaemme | Ifaistos: great! thank you very much, I'll try it |
| 09:42.40 | doppiaemme | Ifaistos: so you have built and everithings is ok with this settings? |
| 09:44.42 | Ifaistos | doppiaemme: Yes. I have build a basic image for an epia board, burned it into a flash and works great |
| 09:45.33 | Ifaistos | doppiaemme: Do a -> bitbake bootstrap-image |
| 09:46.07 | Ifaistos | doppiaemme: It will make a 2.6.12 kernel and a basic filesystem with ssh support |
| 09:46.29 | doppiaemme | lfaistos: oh... it's what I want to do... what conf files did you edit?? only local.conf? |
| 09:47.14 | Ifaistos | doppiaemme: For the bootstrap-image target yes. |
| 09:47.47 | Ifaistos | doppiaemme: If i find sometime i will update the wiki with info on how to build an x86 target |
| 09:47.58 | doppiaemme | lfaistos: It wold be great ! |
| 09:48.45 | doppiaemme | lfaistos: machine = epia and distro= generic? |
| 09:49.13 | Ifaistos | doppiaemme: Better put familiar-unstable |
| 09:49.43 | Ifaistos | doppiaemme: at least this worked for me ;) |
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| 09:50.41 | doppiaemme | Ifaistos: could you post your local.conf? |
| 09:51.13 | Ifaistos | doppiaemme: And do monotone update -rjan2006prebreakage before or you will get a lot of nasty surprises... |
| 09:51.36 | doppiaemme | Ifaistos: just done monotone update -rjan2006prebreakage |
| 09:59.17 | Ifaistos | doppiaemme: local.conf for epia -> http://pastebin.com/525363 |
| 09:59.48 | doppiaemme | Ifaistos: thank you very much!!!! |
| 10:02.02 | Ifaistos | doppiaemme: Don't forget to add the PREFERRED_VERSION i posted earlier. It's not in the conf |
| 10:02.46 | doppiaemme | Ifaistos: is what I was asking you, 'cause I don't read those lines in your local.conf.... :-) |
| 10:02.58 | Ifaistos | doppiaemme: as i have put it in the epia.conf in my case |
| 10:07.47 | hrw|work | someone know how to put one file into two packages? |
| 10:08.58 | koen | good morning all |
| 10:09.22 | hrw|work | hi koen |
| 10:10.52 | koen | hrw|work: you can't put 1 file in two packages for good reasons (RCONFLICTS, RREPLACES, etc), but if you really want to do that, just copy the file and work around it in do_package or something |
| 10:12.16 | hrw|work | koen: I did it in other way |
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| 10:21.43 | Ifaistos | I think i have found a bug in bitbake.... |
| 10:21.52 | koen | join the club ;) |
| 10:22.36 | Ifaistos | if you declare a specific version for a package and for some reason it can not find it or the package is "problematic" |
| 10:23.36 | Ifaistos | insted of stopping it continues be getting the "next availiable" package (i.e different version) but tries to set it up using the config parameters of the previus package |
| 10:24.29 | hrw|work | someone use Gentium fonts from OE? |
| 10:26.29 | XorA | hrw|work: whatfonts are they? |
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| 10:31.07 | hrw|work | XorA: http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&item_id=Gentium |
| 10:31.28 | hrw|work | XorA: we have them iin OE and I just updated them |
| 10:32.26 | XorA | hrw|work: I shall install, I never saw them |
| 10:34.08 | hrw|work | ok. changes pushed |
| 10:34.41 | RP | Ifaistos: That isn't classed as a bug - it continues trying to use other providers by design |
| 10:35.01 | RP | Ifaistos: I agree the feature has sometimes questionable usefullness :) |
| 10:35.07 | koen | wow, hg is fast |
| 10:35.15 | koen | and svn is slow |
| 10:35.28 | Ifaistos | Well if i specify a certain version.... i have my reasons... |
| 10:35.31 | RP | Ifaistos: I don't understand what you mean by previous config parameters though |
| 10:36.18 | RP | Ifaistos: its only a preference, not a set in stone requirement. An option to disable that behaviour in bitbake might be nice though |
| 10:36.41 | koen | REQUIRE_VERSION ? |
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| 10:36.54 | RP | koen: I was just thinking that :) |
| 10:37.15 | koen | djeez |
| 10:37.23 | koen | even monotone is faster as svn |
| 10:37.38 | koen | ~lart non-distributed scms |
| 10:37.46 | RP | That rules out svn :) |
| 10:38.23 | Ifaistos | RP: What i noticed is that when for example i was trying to complie perl-5.8.4 and could not find it |
| 10:38.49 | koen | my current order of preference is: monotone -> hg -> svk |
| 10:38.59 | koen | darcs is ruled out because it isn't buildable in OE |
| 10:39.06 | Ifaistos | RP: it used perl-5.8.7 instead but tried to run a config.sh in staging/perl-5.8.4 dir |
| 10:39.42 | Ifaistos | RP: which was not existing.... |
| 10:40.11 | Ifaistos | RP: let me find it in my logs |
| 10:40.15 | RP | Ifaistos: That sounds like a rather nasty bug :-/ |
| 10:42.15 | koen | maybe it uses perl-native-5.8.4 |
| 10:43.07 | Ifaistos | RP: No logs :( . I will try to duplicated it later and post the debug to give it a look |
| 10:43.42 | RP | if it used perl-native-5.8.4 that could explain it and would be a valid thing for it to try |
| 10:44.28 | koen | python uses a similar construction: 'old' -native is used by 'new' -cross.bb |
| 10:50.34 | Ifaistos | Is there a way to force bitbake to stop compiling if a prefered version/date is not found ? |
| 10:53.12 | Ifaistos | PR: Could you have a look at this -> http://pastebin.com/525417. It's for another problem |
| 10:54.50 | Ifaistos | RP: It looks like the cpan.class configure does not pass the cross-compile enviroment to perl Makefile.pl |
| 10:56.02 | Ifaistos | RP: In this case the perl modules Makefile tries to verify that a libxml2 exists by trying to compile/link to it |
| 10:56.28 | Ifaistos | RP: but it uses the hosts ld instead of the cross compiled one |
| 11:00.01 | johnX | I'm trying to put my first .bb together: I inherit autools, which calls configure alright but I'm trying to find some way to prevent aclocal.m4 from getting blown away since the aclocal.m4 from the package in question has some custom macros in it |
| 11:00.15 | johnX | Can anyone point me in the right direction? |
| 11:00.41 | johnX | I'm willing to read, I'm just not finding what I'm looking for somehow... |
| 11:01.45 | XorA | johnX: wish I could help but autotools is voodoo I do not know |
| 11:01.56 | koen | move it it acinclude.m4 in do_configure_prepend() |
| 11:02.26 | koen | autotools.bbclass deletes it for exactly that reason: custom, but mostly bogus macros |
| 11:02.50 | koen | (that's my recollection of pb_'s explanation) |
| 11:03.01 | johnX | thanks |
| 11:03.16 | johnX | I'll keep reading and hacking away at this |
| 11:03.36 | koen | if that doesn't work do a 'oe_runconf' in do_configure() |
| 11:09.55 | johnX | ok that got it through the configure |
| 11:22.01 | johnX | augh...the program, having no idea that it's cross compiled, decides to run a test at the end of a make |
| 11:22.15 | johnX | turns out ARM binaries don't run on an AMD64 |
| 11:25.25 | RP | Ifaistos: Any package getting built should use the cross compiler.... |
| 11:27.59 | RP | Ifaistos: ld looks to be geting set to the cross compiling linker. The question is therefore why isn't perl using it |
| 11:28.51 | XorA | johnX: normally we just comment out that sort of test, assuming that if it builds it runs |
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| 11:31.22 | johnX | XorA: I figured that I should do something like that...I just need to track down what in this huge Makefile is causing these tests to run |
| 11:33.08 | johnX | XorA: I've treated autotools as a special kind of magic that I shouldn't meddle with so as a result this is my first time really digging into the build system of an autotools based package |
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| 11:39.03 | Ifaistos | RP: I am not sure (or know) either why its behaving like this. I think i will try to patch the Makefile.pl to avoid the test all-together |
| 11:47.04 | RP | Ifaistos: That sounds like the best plan - I haven't time to look into specific problems atm I'm afraid |
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| 11:48.06 | Ifaistos | RP: np ! I am trying to figure out if its my newbinesh to oe, my fat fingers or a "feauture" :) |
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| 11:50.11 | Ifaistos | Here is the log for the problem of compiling a different version than the one requested |
| 11:50.15 | Ifaistos | http://pastebin.com/525464 |
| 11:52.33 | RP | Ifaistos: Run the same command but with -D -D -D |
| 11:52.48 | RP | Lets see why it doesn't want to build the other verison |
| 11:53.09 | RP | I suspect it wants python-core which the older version doesn't provide |
| 12:06.06 | Ifaistos | RP: I tar.zip it as it was like 500K. Do you have a place i can upload it ? |
| 12:07.13 | Ifaistos | RP: Yes this is problem. I have commented out the PROVIDES = "python python-core" |
| 12:07.59 | Ifaistos | RP: This is the reason it prefers the newer package, but still the build fails |
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| 12:12.42 | do13_ | morning all |
| 12:13.03 | koen | hey do13_ |
| 12:13.19 | do13_ | hey koen |
| 12:15.36 | hrw|work | hi dirk |
| 12:16.11 | do13_ | hey Marcin |
| 12:19.16 | RP | Ifaistos: Try adding that line to the other package |
| 12:19.26 | RP | Is PN an override in OE? |
| 12:19.31 | RP | hi dirk |
| 12:20.05 | do13_ | hi Richard |
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| 12:28.43 | hrw|work | koen: gnumeric fails: http://pastebin.com/525507 any idea? |
| 12:28.54 | *** topic/#oe by mithro -> OpenEmbedded Developer Lounge | OE and bitbake were made to match, keep them both up to date | http://handhelds.org/hypermail/oe/47/4772.html | use monotone update -rjan2006prebreakage to avoid breakage | bugs.openembedded.org has problems - put 192.216.230.225 into /etc/hosts |
| 12:29.59 | *** topic/#oe by hrw|work -> OpenEmbedded Developer Lounge | OE and bitbake were made to match, keep them both up to date | http://handhelds.org/hypermail/oe/47/4772.html | use monotone update -rjan2006prebreakage to avoid breakage | bugs.openembedded.org has problems - use http://bugs.treke.net/ |
| 12:31.25 | XorA | hrw|work: need gtk2-devel on host machine |
| 12:31.41 | XorA | hrw|work: someday we meed gtk2-native in oe |
| 12:32.44 | hrw|work | XorA: thx |
| 12:33.00 | hrw|work | XorA: but its ewi.. koen use it too.. |
| 12:33.24 | XorA | hrw|work: pardon? |
| 12:33.46 | hrw|work | nevermind |
| 12:33.53 | hrw|work | machine lack libgtk2.0-dev |
| 12:34.15 | hrw|work | koen: ping? |
| 12:34.28 | XorA | hrw|work: we need a native version of the tool that turns xpm files into gtk files |
| 12:41.10 | koen | gdk-pixbuf-csource? |
| 12:41.17 | koen | hrw|work: gtk-dev installed |
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| 12:42.36 | hrw|work | koen: gracias |
| 12:44.18 | Ifaistos | RP: which package ? Python-2.32 or 2.4.2 ? |
| 12:44.29 | RP | Ifaistos: Make sure that line is in both |
| 12:44.31 | mithro | anyone want to find me a way to get from Napes in Italy to Brussels in Belgium for under 150 EUR? |
| 12:44.48 | Cobelius | I have th following Problem: My Build System is a i686 and my target system is a i686. When bitbakes is configurating the package basepasswd is says that a crosscompiler toolchain should be used but it does not exist. Is there a way to force the system to build the crosscompiler toolchain or using the compiler of the buildsystem? |
| 12:45.51 | hrw|work | Cobelius: there was something like VENDOR somewhere in confs |
| 12:46.01 | Ifaistos | RP: If its in both it compiles the 2.3.2 as it should |
| 12:46.17 | hrw|work | Cobelius: look into conf/machine/netvista.conf |
| 12:47.46 | RP | Ifaistos: Ok, that's because 2.3.2 wasn't providing python-core. I'll make a note to fix that in OE |
| 12:48.25 | Cobelius | The field TARGET_VENDOR? |
| 12:48.30 | hrw|work | Cobelius: yep |
| 12:49.01 | Cobelius | What is this field doing? there is no documentation for it. |
| 12:49.28 | hrw|work | Cobelius: iirc change target_arch a bit for situations like yours |
| 12:49.34 | hrw|work | koen: NOTE: package gnumeric-1.5.5-r0: task do_build: completed |
| 12:49.38 | hrw|work | koen: thx again |
| 12:50.16 | koen | adding a recent gtk+-native is easier since gtk+-directfb is working again |
| 12:50.46 | koen | multimachine.inc should make -native stuff obsolete IMO |
| 12:51.29 | RP | koen: How does that work? |
| 12:51.52 | hrw|work | one user sent me tosa keymap fixes ;) |
| 12:52.04 | koen | if it needs a native package -> MACHINE=native, build, reset MACHINE |
| 12:52.42 | koen | and put STAGING_NATIVE_BINDIR in front of PATH |
| 12:52.56 | RP | koen: Its a nice idea. I'm not sure we can make it work quite that easily though |
| 12:53.32 | Cobelius | But is there an option to force bitbake to build to crosscompiler toolchain? |
| 12:53.34 | koen | I suspect the same |
| 12:53.49 | Cobelius | even it the Build Arch is the same as the Target Arch? |
| 12:54.41 | XorA | hrw|work: NOTE: package gnumeric-1.6.1: completed :-D |
| 12:54.58 | hrw|work | XorA: I use branch |
| 12:55.13 | XorA | now if only perl would compile |
| 12:56.08 | hrw|work | monday.. I definitelly have to go to post office in monday |
| 12:56.25 | do13_ | hrw|work: tosa OZ3.5.4rc keyboard issues? |
| 12:56.38 | hrw|work | do13_: yes |
| 12:56.43 | hrw|work | koen: //usr/lib/ipkg/info/libgsf.postinst: 14: gconftool-2: not found |
| 12:56.52 | hrw|work | koen: lack of rdepends? |
| 12:57.31 | koen | more a lack of gconftool-2 not being shipped, or ipkg running the postsinst in the wrong order |
| 12:57.44 | Cobelius | do13: have you read it? |
| 12:58.31 | do13_ | Cobelius: The bug report? Yes |
| 13:00.18 | hrw|work | do13_: http://pastebin.com/525530 looks good to you? |
| 13:00.24 | do13_ | hrw|work: I'll merge the tc6393 ohci code in my tree and after liams wm9712 fixes we can hopefully release a alpha tosa 2.6 image. |
| 13:01.09 | koen | hrw|work: gconf-dbus does contain /usr/bin/gconftool-2 |
| 13:01.11 | hrw|work | do13_: ok |
| 13:01.37 | koen | hrw|work: but gsf indeed doesn't link against gconf |
| 13:01.45 | hrw|work | koen: which I dont have installed |
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| 13:03.53 | Laibsch | !seen Luke-Jr |
| 13:03.53 | cdbot | Laibsch: Luke-Jr was last seen in # 1 week, 3 days, 5 hours, 10 minutes, and 51 seconds ago saying: <Luke-Jr> right... does it still apply? |
| 13:04.14 | Laibsch | wow, that is quite some time ago. |
| 13:04.16 | hrw|work | lunch time... |
| 13:04.30 | koen | hrw|work: fixed |
| 13:04.39 | do13_ | hrw|work: OK. I can test this. 3 weeks ago I build a 2.4 image. |
| 13:04.46 | koen | the fix should go into .dev as well, but I can't test that |
| 13:04.57 | hrw|work | do13_: would be great |
| 13:05.06 | hrw|work | bbl |
| 13:05.19 | Laibsch | hrw|work: dobru chut! |
| 13:06.46 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r2299b7d6... 10/packages/qpf-fonts/ (qpf-gentium_1.01.bb qpf-gentiumalt_1.01.bb): |
| 13:06.46 | CIA-4 | qpf-gentium: dropped as it is 'Modified version' according to new Gentium license |
| 13:06.46 | CIA-4 | - we probably could distribute it under changed name but OPIE can use |
| 13:06.46 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:06.46 | CIA-4 | taken from .dev |
| 13:06.50 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r2611a405... 10/packages/ttf-fonts/ (ttf-gentium_1.01.bb ttf-gentium_1.02.bb ttf-gentium/OFL.gz): |
| 13:06.53 | CIA-4 | ttf-gentium: updated to 1.02, license changed |
| 13:06.55 | CIA-4 | - license URL added |
| 13:06.57 | CIA-4 | - license content added to recipe |
| 13:06.59 | CIA-4 | - license added into packages |
| 13:07.01 | CIA-4 | taken from .dev |
| 13:07.03 | CIA-4 | 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * r7abd08f6... 10/packages/linux/ (3 files in 2 dirs): ixp4xx-kernel: updated beeper code from CVS in 2.6.15.1 |
| 13:07.06 | CIA-4 | 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * rb1c4312e... 10/packages/util-linux/ (5 files): |
| 13:07.08 | CIA-4 | util-linux: split out umount/swap/losetup commands in all |
| 13:07.12 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:07.14 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:07.16 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:07.18 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:07.20 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * re262cbc1... 10/packages/ttf-fonts/ (ttf-gentium_1.01.bb ttf-gentium_1.02.bb ttf-gentium/OFL.gz): |
| 13:07.27 | CIA-4 | ttf-gentium: updated to 1.02, license changed |
| 13:07.29 | CIA-4 | - license URL added |
| 13:07.31 | CIA-4 | - license content added to recipe |
| 13:07.33 | CIA-4 | - license added into packages |
| 13:07.35 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rfa6466b9... 10/packages/qpf-fonts/ (qpf-gentium_1.01.bb qpf-gentiumalt_1.01.bb): |
| 13:07.37 | CIA-4 | qpf-gentium: dropped as it is 'Modified version' according to new Gentium license |
| 13:07.39 | CIA-4 | - we probably could distribute it under changed name but OPIE can use |
| 13:07.43 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:07.52 | Crofton | hmm |
| 13:07.57 | Crofton | done CIA-4 ? |
| 13:08.09 | Crofton | I just committed a change to a local monotone branch |
| 13:08.30 | Crofton | now I would like to get the diff so I can use it in a bugzilla entry to get the main oe pdates |
| 13:08.49 | koen | do you have viewmtn? |
| 13:09.09 | Crofton | no :( |
| 13:09.54 | koen | monotone diff -r<old> -r<new> iirc |
| 13:10.00 | Crofton | ugh |
| 13:10.09 | Crofton | the r numbers are wacked :) |
| 13:10.10 | CIA-4 | 03florian 07org.oe.dev * rf749c74f... 10/packages/gnome/gnome-vfs-dbus_svn.bb: gnome-vfs-dbus: Add svn package by Patrick Steiner. |
| 13:10.15 | CIA-4 | 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r0deaec7d... 10/packages/gpe-filemanager/ (4 files): gpe-filemanager: Add 0.24 by Patrick Steiner, remove ancient versions. |
| 13:10.29 | Crofton | is viewmtn easy to set up? |
| 13:10.51 | koen | if you have mod_python+apache2, yes |
| 13:10.56 | Crofton | hmm |
| 13:10.58 | Crofton | where is it? |
| 13:11.11 | koen | http://grahame.angrygoats.net/viewmtn.shtml |
| 13:12.57 | Crofton | scm would be a good tag for that in del.icio.us? |
| 13:13.11 | koen | probably |
| 13:13.24 | Crofton | better than rcs at least :) |
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| 13:15.49 | koen | hrw|work: libgsf-1.12.2-r1 should have correct RDEPENDS |
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| 13:21.17 | Cobelius | @hrw: it seems to work now, thanks a lot! |
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| 13:23.59 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r6dc8d443... 10/packages/libgsf/libgsf_1.12.2.bb: libgsf: rdepends on gconf and gnomevfs |
| 13:32.23 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r60b102cf... 10/packages/libgsf/libgsf_1.13.3.bb: libgsf: add untested fix for RDEPENDS |
| 13:35.42 | hrw|work | koen|away: thx |
| 13:41.47 | XorA | ~lart perl |
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| 14:05.27 | gcr | hello! Watching my openzaurus-3.5.4-RC first time boot up screen |
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| 14:06.31 | gcr | hello! Watching my openzaurus-3.5.4-RC first time boot up screen ... it doesn't seem to be doing anything though... |
| 14:07.18 | XorA | Installing �(*��gnumeric (1.6.1-r0) to root... WTF? |
| 14:07.51 | gcr | Not sure its the first time I've installed the 3.5.4-RC |
| 14:07.59 | gcr | I guess that's why its an RC |
| 14:08.45 | gcr | what pda are you using? |
| 14:21.53 | hrw|work | XorA: update ipkg to .157 |
| 14:36.51 | ade|desk | what do i need in a conf file to get all the depends built, have trouble with build gpe-image .. missing packages |
| 14:39.28 | koen | is ipkg .157 stable enough for .oz354fam083? |
| 14:42.49 | hrw|work | koen: did not tested |
| 14:43.58 | hrw|work | 22 21:27 < hrw> Pigi: which ipkg you suggest to use for stable: .154 or .156? |
| 14:44.01 | hrw|work | 22 21:28 < Pigi> I think 156 should be ok, but if pb_confirm the new mods, then I will release a new 157 that would speed up a bit something. |
| 14:45.31 | hrw|work | so it looks like .157 should be ok |
| 14:54.56 | hrw|work | koen: .155 should be avoided, .156 works, .157 is nicer then .156 because it does not parse lists when does not have to |
| 14:55.27 | koen | I thought so |
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| 14:56.07 | hrw|work | ok. time to go - 17:17 have train |
| 14:57.32 | hrw|work | cu monday probably |
| 14:58.12 | koen | cu |
| 15:04.28 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rfe66a242... 10/packages/initscripts/ (initscripts-1.0/tosa/keymap-2.4.map initscripts_1.0.bb): |
| 15:04.28 | CIA-4 | initscripts: fixed Tosa keymap-2.4 |
| 15:04.28 | CIA-4 | - fix was sent by one of OZ 3.5.4 testers |
| 15:06.45 | CoreDump|home | hi all |
| 15:08.39 | koen | hey CoreDump|home |
| 15:09.49 | CoreDump|home | hrw|gone: got two more annoying bugs in 3.5.4 GPE for you =) In GPE, the "Screen" and "Sleep" configurations apps segfault on launch on Akita. |
| 15:10.33 | RP | pb_, kergoth: I get the feeling it might be bad for some reason but why isn't PN in OVERRIDES? |
| 15:10.57 | koen | PN isn't? |
| 15:11.09 | koen | so how does SRCDATE_foo work? |
| 15:11.35 | RP | koen: It adds itself to overrides temporarily |
| 15:11.44 | koen | aha |
| 15:12.07 | koen | I remember someone explaining why it was bad, but can't remember the details |
| 15:12.16 | koen | ~lart udev |
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| 15:13.33 | RP | As far as I can see, it'd be quite useful. So useful, it must be bad somehow :) |
| 15:14.16 | koen | I can imagine bitbake would get *a lot* slower |
| 15:14.57 | RP | koen: Less calls to update_data so it might actually go faster :) |
| 15:15.44 | XorA | ~lart libdbus-glib-1.so.0 |
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| 15:28.12 | lrg|home | morning all |
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| 15:28.32 | koen | hey lrg|home |
| 15:40.31 | do13 | hey Liam |
| 15:41.45 | lrg|home | hey Dirk, are you enjoying your holiday ? |
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| 15:42.06 | do13 | lrg|home: Yep. But one week is too short. |
| 15:42.23 | chouimat | morning |
| 15:42.35 | lrg|home | hey chouimat |
| 15:43.48 | lrg|home | do13: I'm going to start on tosa on Monday, I've had a *lot* of support recently and haven't been able to do much. I'll try and do as much as I can before I head off to China |
| 15:45.36 | do13 | lrg|home: thanks. You are going to china on the 3. Feb? |
| 15:46.28 | lrg|home | do13: yep, going until the 13th. will be working on pxa stuff whilst I'm there, although will be behind firewall. |
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| 15:47.00 | lrg|home | does anyone know if #oe is available in China ? |
| 15:47.45 | CoreDump|home | ahem, lol? Don't tell me they even censor IRC channels? |
| 15:48.10 | lrg|home | CoreDump|home: I'm not sure. I know they censor BBC news |
| 15:48.28 | tmbinc | i had no problems https-proxying out there |
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| 15:58.16 | alan|home | morning |
| 15:59.58 | koen | hey alan|home |
| 16:00.17 | alan|home | hey koen |
| 16:00.55 | mickeyl | cheers |
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| 16:01.30 | do13 | hi mickeyl |
| 16:01.30 | alan|home | looks like i'm not the only one who slept for too long, huh mickeyl ? Hi, btw... |
| 16:01.56 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 16:01.59 | patipaq | hi. is there a recommened compiler version to use when compiling opie-image bootstrap etc? gcc 4 seems too new. |
| 16:02.14 | mickeyl | patipaq: i recommend 3.3.4 |
| 16:02.15 | mickeyl | no |
| 16:02.16 | mickeyl | 3.4.3 even |
| 16:02.25 | mickeyl | i have some resentiments against 3.4.4 |
| 16:03.38 | patipaq | great thanks i can drop in 3.3.6 easily in ubuntu, i'll try it |
| 16:03.48 | koen | familiar and openzaurus both have sane defaults |
| 16:04.06 | alan|home | sane ? :) |
| 16:04.08 | koen | mickeyl: don't you know that 2.95.3 is the C++/qtopia walhalla when it comes to compilers? |
| 16:04.56 | do13 | mickeyl: I booked the same flight to Brussels. So we can arrange a meeting at the airport. |
| 16:05.27 | koen | cool, more hackers at fosdem |
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| 16:06.14 | mickeyl | do13: ah excellent. which hotel are you in? |
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| 16:07.11 | do13 | mickeyl: You proposed the astridhotel :) |
| 16:07.23 | mickeyl | do13: i remember. good, then we can share a taxi ): |
| 16:07.27 | mickeyl | :) even |
| 16:07.47 | do13 | mickeyl: yes |
| 16:07.54 | lrg|home | mickeyl, do13: how far is astridhotel from novotel ? |
| 16:08.06 | mickeyl | lrg|home: there are two novotels, which one are you in? |
| 16:08.49 | do13 | lrg|home: Rue de la Vierge Noire ? |
| 16:09.51 | lrg|home | Centre Tour Noire |
| 16:11.21 | mickeyl | do13: when can you be at the airport? do you have an etix? we could synchronize checkin then to get seats in the same row |
| 16:12.17 | lrg|home | mickeyl, do13: the address is Rue de la Vierge Noir |
| 16:15.23 | do13 | mickeyl: Yes I have an etix. I'll arrive at 14:13 via train. |
| 16:15.39 | mickeyl | sounds like novotel in the north, this is IIRC 20 minutes off from grand place |
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| 16:17.54 | lrg|home | mickeyl: ah, thanks |
| 16:18.42 | mickeyl | do13: ok, good, i think i can be there at 14:45 (perhaps a couple of minutes later) - we can meet at the meeting point in terminal 1 and then do the checkin. |
| 16:19.55 | do13 | mickeyl: Yep. This is ok for me. |
| 16:20.40 | mickeyl | do13: cool. we can share mobile numbers. I'll send you mine a minute per email |
| 16:20.53 | mickeyl | or do you already have it? |
| 16:21.34 | do13 | mickeyl: I don't think so |
| 16:22.03 | mickeyl | ok, sent |
| 16:23.53 | do13 | answer sent |
| 16:24.42 | do13 | mickeyl: Is this the right place? http://www.viamichelin.de/viamichelin/deu/dyn/controller/ItiWGPerformPage?E_wg=210506028lS19J106027172149170035ITIWG7g11133deu0074115f102g10112a10231103311000cQnJ1eGVsbGVz000kUGxhY2UgRHUgU2FtZWRp100o141151droo0033fn10533nav0102q10112k102d1103311000cQnJ1eGVsbGVz000uUnVlIERlIExhIFZpZXJnZSBOb2lyZQ100o141151e5mq0033fn1054m2g6010010010072006027039.004-1.00110001001001001001001003deu011011&pim=true&strStartAddress=Place+du+Samedi&strSt |
| 16:24.42 | do13 | artCP=&strStartCity=Bruxelles&strStartCityCountry=311&strDestAddress=Rue+De+La+Vierge+Noire&strDestCP=&strDestCity=Bruxelles&strDestCityCountry=311&strStep1Address=&strStep1CP=&strStep1City=&strStep1CityCountry=311&strStep3Address=&strStep3CP=&strStep3City=&strStep3CityCountry=311&strStep2Address=&strStep2CP=&strStep2City=&strStep2CityCountry=311&dtmDeparture=27%2F01%2F2006&intItineraryType=1&intOneCountryCheck=true&unit=km&vh=CAR&conso=6&carbCost=1.00&devise=1.0 |
| 16:24.42 | do13 | %7CEUR&devise2=Andere |
| 16:24.52 | do13 | oops too long. |
| 16:25.41 | mickeyl | heh |
| 16:26.01 | do13 | mickeyl: Try this one: http://pastebin.com/525832 |
| 16:28.06 | obergix[work] | is there an embedded room ? |
| 16:28.15 | mickeyl | do13: yeah, the rue de la vierge noire is pretty long though |
| 16:28.45 | mickeyl | obergix[work]: yeah. philip de swert (nokia/osso) is organizing it |
| 16:29.12 | obergix[work] | ok |
| 16:29.21 | do13 | mickeyl: ok. But this should be np :) |
| 16:29.25 | mickeyl | yea |
| 16:30.46 | obergix[work] | http://fosdem.org/2006/index/dev_room_embedded empty for 06 ? |
| 16:31.22 | mickeyl | http://www.ucdot.org/articles/05/12/06/1528244.shtml |
| 16:31.34 | mickeyl | don't worry, there's some time until the schedule is fixed |
| 16:35.37 | obergix[work] | any papers received ? |
| 16:45.24 | mickeyl | no idea |
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| 17:02.53 | koen | they received my paper :) |
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| 18:11.58 | Ifaistos | I am having problem to figure out how the build enviroment parameters are set... |
| 18:12.48 | Ifaistos | for example i have a perl module that regardless of the compile enviroment settings trying to use /usr/bin/ld to test link a lib... |
| 18:13.11 | Ifaistos | which offcourse fails :/ |
| 18:13.48 | CosmicPenguin | diff is your friend |
| 18:15.08 | Ifaistos | and perl Makefile.PL is my enemy :) (at this point) |
| 18:16.14 | Ifaistos | The worst part that even if i patch the Makefile.PL to avoid the test... |
| 18:16.34 | Ifaistos | the modules gets build as libxml-libxml-common |
| 18:17.15 | Ifaistos | but when bitbake tries to build it as a libxml-libxml-common-native it fails |
| 18:18.07 | Ifaistos | and from what i understood its's trying to use /usr/bin/ld insted of the target ld it should have used... |
| 18:19.39 | Ifaistos | in general either it ignores the ld path set by bitbake scripts/configs or they are set wrong (for one reason or the other) |
| 18:21.04 | Ifaistos | The resuly looks like this -> http://pastebin.com/526008 |
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| 18:24.07 | [lala] | hi, does anybody know which distro i can use with the xxs1500 machine config? |
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| 18:48.34 | Paranoir_ | hey, is the openembedded website down? |
| 18:49.06 | Paranoir_ | tried for 3 days now |
| 18:49.38 | Ifaistos | Is there any template anywhere on how a libsomthing-native lib should be build ? |
| 18:55.01 | koen | Paranoir_: try oe.handhelds.org |
| 18:55.10 | koen | the dns bill didn't get payed |
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| 18:56.12 | raduga | has someone paid it yet? |
| 18:56.22 | raduga | or some damn squatter grabbed it? :/ |
| 18:58.31 | mreimer | koen: is there a problem getting it renewed? I have connections with this registrar that might be able to help |
| 18:59.08 | koen | mreimer: kergoth is without internet connection after his move to arizona |
| 18:59.09 | kergoth | raduga: pretty sure we still have the domain. just dont have dns for it atm |
| 18:59.15 | koen | hey kergoth |
| 18:59.17 | kergoth | i have net at home now, but its wireless in a hotel |
| 18:59.19 | zecke | hey |
| 18:59.19 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:59.21 | Crofton | expiration dates on domain look good |
| 18:59.31 | Crofton | kergoth, check out zoneedit.com |
| 18:59.36 | Crofton | I sue them for my stuff |
| 18:59.46 | Crofton | free for less than 5 dominas |
| 18:59.57 | zecke | sue? |
| 19:00.11 | Crofton | use |
| 19:00.16 | Crofton | I type bad :) |
| 19:00.22 | zecke | that is the Freudsche Versprecher? |
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| 19:00.46 | Crofton | zecke, my german is worse than my typing |
| 19:00.57 | kitno455 | oe noob needs a little help |
| 19:01.15 | kitno455 | having trouble rebuilding kernel |
| 19:01.43 | kitno455 | always get 'Attempted builds: 0' |
| 19:02.03 | kitno455 | where has it cached that this is already built? |
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| 19:03.01 | Crofton | I think we need more data |
| 19:03.43 | kitno455 | Crofton, you talking to me ? |
| 19:03.48 | Crofton | yeah |
| 19:03.51 | kitno455 | ok |
| 19:03.51 | Crofton | sorry |
| 19:04.08 | Crofton | what did you run? |
| 19:04.16 | kitno455 | i am using oe via the openslug makefile |
| 19:04.21 | Crofton | hmmm |
| 19:04.27 | kitno455 | if you are not familiar, let me know |
| 19:04.31 | kitno455 | basically, |
| 19:04.33 | Crofton | you may get better results in that channel |
| 19:04.40 | kitno455 | its silent |
| 19:04.43 | Crofton | I forget the name |
| 19:04.50 | kitno455 | i think this is oe anyway- listen |
| 19:04.56 | kitno455 | please :) |
| 19:05.01 | Crofton | yeah, but we do things direct |
| 19:05.09 | Crofton | and the makefile acts as a shell |
| 19:05.18 | kitno455 | i understand. |
| 19:05.40 | zecke | Crofton: "Freudian slip" says my dictionary |
| 19:05.51 | Crofton | ah |
| 19:06.07 | kitno455 | the makefile is trying to build kernel |
| 19:06.20 | kitno455 | it does 'handling bitbake files' |
| 19:06.30 | Crofton | what bitbake command does it run? |
| 19:06.37 | kitno455 | hold |
| 19:06.50 | kitno455 | ./setup-env; exec bitbake virtual/kernel |
| 19:07.16 | kitno455 | this seem correct? |
| 19:07.23 | Crofton | heh |
| 19:07.29 | Crofton | I'm not sure |
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| 19:08.00 | kitno455 | ok, where can i find the .bb that describes virtual/kernel i wonder? |
| 19:08.04 | Crofton | what happens when you type bitbake virtual/kernel |
| 19:08.14 | kitno455 | without the exec? |
| 19:08.49 | Crofton | well, you need to look in the apprpopriate conf file to see how virtual/kernel gets mapped to an actul linuxxxxxxx.bb file |
| 19:08.58 | Crofton | yeah, I am grasping at straw ... |
| 19:09.09 | kitno455 | hold |
| 19:09.26 | Ifaistos | kinto455: I was looking at this script the other day. Its setting up the enviroment params for bitbake to work and calls bitbake |
| 19:09.37 | Crofton | kitno455, I think you need to talk with someone familair with the openslug stuff |
| 19:09.45 | katossi | if I need a specific usb to serial modulefor me kernel, what can I do? how can I compile my custom kernel? |
| 19:09.58 | kitno455 | katossi- which module? |
| 19:10.06 | katossi | pl2303 |
| 19:10.10 | koen | katossi: add the module to the defconfig, rebuild the kernel, install the module |
| 19:10.19 | Crofton | zecke, birthday present? |
| 19:10.20 | koen | zecke: cool, inside your ibook? |
| 19:10.27 | kitno455 | koen, thats what i am trying to do with openslug |
| 19:11.59 | kitno455 | Ifaistos, Crofton everything in regards to the makefile and the setup scripts seems to work |
| 19:12.12 | kitno455 | the error that i get is that bitbake says: |
| 19:12.38 | kitno455 | Attempted builds: 0 |
| 19:13.08 | kitno455 | and nothing is left in stamps, nothing is in work, nothing in deploy/images |
| 19:13.17 | kitno455 | regarding that package |
| 19:13.31 | kitno455 | wich is actually called nslu2-kernel |
| 19:13.44 | Crofton | sorry kitno455, I'm not super familiar with this, and I need to work on a report :( |
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| 19:14.05 | kitno455 | it seems that something has cached the fact that the package was built once, and it wont build it again |
| 19:14.26 | Crofton | bitbake -c clean virtual\kernel ? |
| 19:15.17 | kitno455 | probably with the \ going the other way? |
| 19:16.29 | raduga | rm -rf tmp/cache |
| 19:18.12 | kitno455 | raduga, i already did that |
| 19:18.21 | kitno455 | Crofton, that seems to have worked |
| 19:18.35 | Crofton | cool |
| 19:18.36 | kitno455 | it is now rebuilding |
| 19:18.54 | kitno455 | it was the bitbake clean command i was missing |
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| 20:09.32 | ade|desk | whats the var to build all deps as i seem to be missing packages in most of the task-* ? |
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| 20:12.56 | ajw | so, what's the right way to add mod_php? should i make it an extra PACKAGE built right out of regular php? should it be a new BB file in php/ or should there be a mod_php/BB file/dir combo? |
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| 20:16.07 | _chronic | words of advice! for young? people |
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| 20:17.54 | ajw | stay in school |
| 20:18.40 | ajw | not |
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| 20:45.42 | ajw | pretty slow on fridays, eh? |
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| 20:53.42 | mithro | okay i'm coming to FOSDEM :P |
| 20:53.49 | mithro | dunno how I'm getting back home yet |
| 20:53.55 | mithro | but I know I'm getting there |
| 20:54.06 | zecke | mithro: hehe |
| 20:54.24 | zecke | mithro: you need to get a job in europe ;) |
| 20:54.31 | zecke | mithro: and save for the flight back home |
| 20:54.40 | mithro | i have a flight back home |
| 20:54.51 | mithro | it just leaves from Rome not Brussels :P |
| 20:55.18 | zecke | try to sell it and get some drugs instead |
| 20:55.24 | mithro | I'm currently going fast train to Milan and then flying from there to Brussels |
| 20:56.07 | mithro | ~$50 EUR in total to get there |
| 20:57.53 | zecke | gosh I hate linux |
| 20:58.07 | zecke | nfs-kernel-server restart is not working... |
| 20:59.14 | zecke | lol need to restart... |
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| 22:10.25 | alan| | is there any luck we may see cbrpager ever ported to OE ? |
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| 22:12.12 | zecke | alan|: what is that? |
| 22:13.08 | alan| | zecke: http://jcoppens.com/soft/cbrpager/index.en.php |
| 22:13.22 | alan| | it is a comics cbr/cbz archive reader |
| 22:13.43 | alan| | would be reaylly great on pda |
| 22:13.55 | alan| | (gpe only, though) |
| 22:15.28 | alan| | i've never been able to understand how you write a .bb file, but i guess this one shouldn't be too hard : it depends on progs that are already in OE |
| 22:15.40 | alan| | time to sleep |
| 22:15.52 | alan| | good night zecke, good night all |
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| 22:26.34 | koen | zecke: I find git way too chatty |
| 22:26.49 | koen | we can emulate it with monotone, btw |
| 22:27.12 | koen | alias git = 'cat /dev/urandom & monotone pull' |
| 22:27.40 | zecke | and where is update-alternatives? |
| 22:27.48 | koen | who needs that |
| 22:28.31 | koen | since we obviously don't need any other gcc version as 2.95.3, we should also switch to the sharp symlink madness |
| 22:28.41 | koen | 'compatible' |
| 22:29.05 | zecke | koen: git feels hacky... it is the fastest moving, which is good and bad at the same time |
| 22:29.16 | koen | indeed |
| 22:29.21 | zecke | koen: monotone is more mature as it has lua support |
| 22:29.37 | zecke | koen: using your favorite three way merge tool is just a matter of implementing the hook |
| 22:29.51 | koen | hg looks pretty nice as well |
| 22:29.51 | zecke | koen: for git you can write a shell script though |
| 22:30.39 | Crofton | lua? |
| 22:30.48 | koen | scripting language |
| 22:31.26 | zecke | something is deeply fucked up with my vi... it adds the charachters where it wants... not where the cursor is |
| 22:32.57 | zecke | koen: mercurial can be DoSed by starting a push and then hiting CTRL+C |
| 22:33.07 | koen | crap |
| 22:33.09 | zecke | koen: this requires someone on the server to enter hg recover |
| 22:33.41 | koen | so it boils down to 'monotone still rules' |
| 22:34.04 | zecke | koen: what worries on monotone is, it can not yet rosterify OE |
| 22:34.22 | koen | why not? |
| 22:34.25 | zecke | koen: well I need to test that CTRL+C issue once again |
| 22:34.32 | zecke | koen: due some kind of merge we did |
| 22:34.47 | zecke | koen: that violates an invariant, some rev around 3000 |
| 22:34.58 | koen | doesn't http://venge.net/monotone/wiki/RootDirRenaming work around that? |
| 22:35.15 | zecke | koen: people in #monotone didn't know that |
| 22:35.39 | koen | Necronom mentioned something about that this morning |
| 22:35.57 | koen | something about a new branch being able to rosterify OE |
| 22:36.21 | zecke | koen: darcs/ghc will be fun as well |
| 22:36.31 | zecke | koen: ghc on mac can not apply more than 150 at once... |
| 22:36.42 | zecke | koen: which is roughly three days of OE work |
| 22:36.44 | koen | as long as ghc isn't in OE we don't have to bother testing it IMO |
| 22:37.41 | zecke | well bootstrapping sounds like fun but I need to get some things sorted first |
| 22:38.23 | zecke | emerge --sync is at 34% on my SHARk now.. (with 400mb swap on nbd) |
| 22:38.43 | koen | heh |
| 22:38.50 | koen | gentoo is LFS for dummies |
| 22:39.01 | koen | why not add shark support to OE? |
| 22:39.12 | zecke | koen: it oom with 256 nbd |
| 22:39.26 | zecke | koen: well that is the next step... I was lucky there was a stage3 gentoo for arm |
| 22:39.42 | zecke | as debootstrap sucks donkey ass |
| 22:40.06 | koen | I was got debootstrap to fill my workstation's root with sparc stuff |
| 22:40.13 | koen | s/was/once/ |
| 22:40.21 | koen | ibot: STFU |
| 22:40.22 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, stfu is Shut the F*** Up!, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/stfu-noob.jpg |
| 22:40.42 | zecke | koen: well the '--arch' option of debootstrap is ridicoulous nowadays... |
| 22:40.57 | zecke | koen: it tries to chroot and execute the dpkg binary of the root... |
| 22:41.16 | zecke | hehe |
| 22:41.50 | zecke | koen: I think git, mercurial, svn should be heavily tested |
| 22:42.08 | koen | and monotone 0.26 |
| 22:42.23 | koen | a recent 0.26pre at least |
| 22:42.36 | zecke | monotone 0.27 |
| 22:42.48 | koen | we could do a reverse tailor for 0.25 -> rosters |
| 22:43.35 | zecke | fuck the tunnel is down on my machine :} |
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| 22:43.47 | zecke | I can not rosterify over the weekend |
| 22:44.15 | pb__ | hi all |
| 22:44.20 | koen | hey pb__ |
| 22:44.24 | zecke | pb__: Bonjour, ca va? |
| 22:44.41 | pb__ | zecke: assez bien. toi? |
| 22:45.02 | zecke | pb__: ca va bien aussie |
| 22:45.24 | zecke | pb__: do you happen to have met with DibCom or ExpWay? :} |
| 22:46.11 | pb__ | zecke: actually no. I guess I shouldn't say who I did meet with. |
| 22:46.27 | zecke | right |
| 22:46.35 | kergoth | zecke: reading the scm wiki pages. remember that checkouts of the tree using svk should be faster than the equivalent checkout with svn. also note that your initial overview email says that svn doesnt support cherrypicking, yet you list an svk feature in the list. svk does support cherry picking |
| 22:47.19 | pb__ | g'day kergoth |
| 22:47.25 | kergoth | hey |
| 22:47.26 | zecke | kergoth: hey |
| 22:47.28 | kergoth | how goes it? |
| 22:47.51 | zecke | kergoth: how is it named? smerge with just files? |
| 22:48.27 | zecke | kergoth: and I can't remember my initial mail |
| 22:48.51 | zecke | kergoth: and yes both svn co or svk sync should only be bound to network io |
| 22:49.07 | zecke | please correct any mistakes you find |
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| 22:49.49 | kergoth | zecke: iirc cherry picking is svk merge -c [rev] |
| 22:49.58 | kergoth | but i havent done it in a while |
| 22:50.22 | zecke | http://svkbook.elixus.org/nightly/en/svk.ref.svk.c.cmerge.html |
| 22:50.24 | zecke | right |
| 22:50.40 | kergoth | i need to play with mercurial and git some |
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| 22:52.24 | zecke | kergoth: for mercurial and darcs send me your ssh public key |
| 22:52.30 | kergoth | k |
| 22:52.39 | zecke | kergoth: for git mail it to RP |
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| 22:53.54 | ka6sox-office | koen: do you know who might have vector art of the OE logo? |
| 22:54.29 | koen | ka6sox-office: everyone with an OE tree |
| 22:54.31 | kergoth | the svg is in the oe repo, iirc. at least it used to be |
| 22:54.33 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:54.49 | ka6sox-office | thanks koen kergoth |
| 22:54.58 | koen | ka6sox-office: contrib/oe.svg |
| 22:55.05 | kergoth | http://kergoth.com/files/omni001.jpg .. the new vim7 omni completion is most nifty |
| 22:55.28 | kergoth | i especially like the python one, that can even tab complete the arguments to functions, dropping in the syntax from the pydoc info |
| 22:56.33 | zecke | wow |
| 22:57.24 | zecke | I'm stupid (haven't played admin since a long time). I have a directory and I want newly created files to be in a specific group |
| 22:57.28 | zecke | how can I do that? |
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| 22:57.50 | koen | umod? |
| 22:57.54 | RP | zecke: umask |
| 22:58.15 | kergoth | umask doesnt help the group, only the mode |
| 22:58.20 | victorz | chgrp |
| 22:58.22 | kergoth | you probably want to chgrp the directory, then set g+s |
| 22:58.26 | zecke | RP: umask on a directory? I thought it was a per user shell issue |
| 22:58.34 | kergoth | setgid directory causes new files to be in that group |
| 22:58.36 | zecke | kergoth: so sticky bit is still working? |
| 22:58.43 | kergoth | works fine, i use it daily |
| 22:59.33 | RP | Whilst a few people that might know are around, I'll ask again. Why would putting PN into OVERRIDES be a bad idea? |
| 23:00.34 | zecke | RP: would would happen to FILES_${PN}? |
| 23:00.43 | zecke | might still work as expected |
| 23:01.19 | pb__ | yeah, all the subpackage overrides would be likely to break. |
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| 23:01.41 | pb__ | I'm pretty sure that they did actually break last time we tried that, and there might have been a problem with namespace collisions as well. |
| 23:02.28 | zecke | RP: Do you have a clue on how to revert changes? |
| 23:02.43 | RP | zecke: In git or montone? |
| 23:02.44 | zecke | RP: git co oldrev; git commit; git push? |
| 23:02.48 | zecke | RP: in git |
| 23:03.01 | RP | zecke: You can also do git revert I think |
| 23:03.10 | zecke | RP: well okay ;) |
| 23:03.21 | RP | git revert creates a reverse diff which you would then merge and sign |
| 23:03.43 | RP | Would we want something like pn-${PN} in overrides? |
| 23:04.02 | pb__ | That would work. I couldn't speak as to whether we'd want it or not. |
| 23:04.05 | zecke | RP: where would that be useful? for .inc files? |
| 23:04.27 | pb__ | zecke: for local.conf, I suppose. |
| 23:04.33 | RP | Think things like INHIBIT_PACKAGE_STRIP_pn-nano = "1" |
| 23:04.36 | pb__ | SABOTAGE_pn-opie-opie-opie = "yes" |
| 23:04.38 | pb__ | that kind of thing |
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| 23:04.49 | zecke | pb__: I think I can not support that |
| 23:05.26 | zecke | RP: okay something I wanted to have as well |
| 23:05.37 | pb__ | zecke: ah, too bad |
| 23:06.22 | RP | I have a patch which adds PN to overides locally to support it for INHIBIT_PACKAGE_STRIP in packages.bbclass and it works nicely... |
| 23:06.38 | RP | but it strikes me as something that would have uses elsewhere |
| 23:07.04 | CIA-4 | 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r5d4b4c74... 10/packages/dreambox/dreambox-secondstage.bb: dreambox-secondstage/dm7025: upgrade to 42 to fix bug reported by BoxMan |
| 23:08.04 | kergoth | koen: you should change my location on your oe dev map :) |
| 23:09.22 | kergoth | zecke: minor note, i like using -l as well as -I on my smerges. have you used that before? |
| 23:09.38 | koen | kergoth: what are your new coords? |
| 23:10.00 | kergoth | how accurate do you want it? i'm currently in the phoenix, az area |
| 23:10.01 | zecke | kergoth: no, (I'm new to svk anyway). I still wonder what --remoterevs does... |
| 23:10.02 | kergoth | :) |
| 23:10.12 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:10.27 | kergoth | iirc it makes the new commit messages reflect the messages from the original change |
| 23:10.37 | kergoth | s/change$/changes/ |
| 23:10.48 | zecke | kergoth: oh well yeah I want that as well |
| 23:10.52 | kergoth | :) |
| 23:10.56 | koen | kergoth: as accurate as you want it to be |
| 23:11.22 | kergoth | koen: well, lets get it in the right state at any rate. i'm definately not in mn anymore :) move me down to phoenix |
| 23:11.41 | kergoth | i should play with oe some this weekend |
| 23:11.44 | kergoth | get back up to speed |
| 23:12.30 | kergoth | zecke: also, are you familiar with svk pull and svk push? |
| 23:12.33 | RP | and then beat up these people who've "broken" it all :) |
| 23:12.40 | kergoth | zecke: they're convenience wrappers around smerge |
| 23:12.49 | zecke | kergoth: well I have used it (by accident) |
| 23:13.13 | zecke | kergoth: I wonder what happens if we move the org.oe.dev dir on croftons server |
| 23:13.24 | zecke | kergoth: and I try smerge... |
| 23:13.30 | kergoth | svk tracks branching, pull/push obeys it. so if i cp from mirror to another location, then push, it'll check in, smerge to the mirror, which automatically goes upstream |
| 23:13.42 | kergoth | pull does a sync on the mirror, then an update |
| 23:13.44 | koen | kergoth: you're in arizona now :) |
| 23:14.20 | kergoth | saves time. i rarely actually use smerge directly unless i'm doing manual stuff, i.e. --baseless |
| 23:15.20 | zecke | kergoth: svk smerge --baseless -I took accumulated three days :} |
| 23:15.22 | kergoth | erm, i described that wrong. push doesnt check in, it just merges it to upstream if you're on a branch, ensuring your commits propogate |
| 23:15.26 | kergoth | haha |
| 23:15.30 | kergoth | well, thats a shitload of commits :) |
| 23:16.13 | zecke | git took just a couple of minutes ;) |
| 23:16.22 | kergoth | impressive |
| 23:16.29 | zecke | svk sync should be faster though |
| 23:16.40 | CosmicPenguin | unless you're downloading a pack from linux-mip through rsync, and then its fucking slowwwwww |
| 23:16.48 | kergoth | well as you've pointed out, there are advantages and disadvantages to all of the options |
| 23:16.50 | CosmicPenguin | but that has nothing to do with git |
| 23:17.05 | zecke | CosmicPenguin: hehe, give them better Netowkr connection |
| 23:17.17 | kergoth | svk appeals to me though, i like that its based on something as known solid and stable as svn |
| 23:17.45 | kergoth | hmm |
| 23:17.45 | zecke | kergoth: if smerge -s would work, it would rock |
| 23:17.47 | Crofton | I like it because I know svn |
| 23:17.58 | zecke | kergoth: and if smerge really works with merging... |
| 23:18.37 | Crofton | Now is a good time for me to set up people to access the svn server ... |
| 23:19.34 | zecke | and seriously hg looks really fast a 'local' operations |
| 23:20.36 | CosmicPenguin | I hate ACPI |
| 23:20.40 | CosmicPenguin | I hate it, I hate it, Ih ate it |
| 23:21.31 | RP | I think all the scm's have merit. I'm actually starting to appreciate some parts of monotone :-/ |
| 23:22.08 | RP | git's commandlines can be too insane. It all works but its not very intuitive... |
| 23:22.23 | RP | Whether a good guide could fix git or not, I don't know |
| 23:22.39 | RP | I think part of the test will be to see if we can write one... |
| 23:23.34 | zecke | RP: yeah. Every time I sit in front of git I feel the power of it... |
| 23:23.47 | zecke | RP: put I don't know what to type to get there where I want to |
| 23:24.05 | koen | zecke: with great power comes great responsibility |
| 23:24.18 | RP | zecke: I share that feeling. Its like when I came accross a bash shell after DOS :) |
| 23:24.20 | zecke | koen: hehe |
| 23:25.27 | tkimball | Evening all. Finally have an apparent working cross-compile. But now I'm trying to re-create irssi and configure states a macro is missing. |
| 23:25.57 | zecke | tkimball: welcome to the wonderful world autotools |
| 23:27.23 | tkimball | Ah, this sounds related to the recent changes. Should I get out of the pre-breakage pull? |
| 23:28.12 | zecke | tkimball: that depends, but I think not |
| 23:28.39 | zecke | tkimball: is it a autoreconf error |
| 23:28.42 | RP | tkimball: I doubt that will help much for that problem. |
| 23:29.53 | tkimball | zecke: Yes, it appears to be autoreconf. macro not found in library. |
| 23:32.41 | RP | 'night all |
| 23:33.33 | tkimball | Ah, think I found it. *goes to check/install more pkgs* |
| 23:42.03 | zecke | I hate cli applications... |
| 23:42.37 | CosmicPenguin | I hate gui applications |
| 23:42.53 | zecke | CosmicPenguin: (I hate writing cli applications...) |
| 23:43.07 | koen | I wonder how much space -Os will save in a standard build |
| 23:43.13 | koen | anyway |
| 23:43.16 | koen | 'night all |
| 23:43.20 | zecke | cya |
| 23:54.51 | tkimball | How are autotools invoked from bitbake? I think m4_pattern_allow may not be setup correctly. |
| 23:55.41 | zecke | tkimball: autotools.bbclass class autoreconf |
| 23:56.03 | zecke | tkimball: see the do*configure* script in the temp/ directory |
| 23:56.23 | CIA-4 | 03mreimer 07org.oe.dev * r7a7a7b77... 10/packages/gpe-bootsplash/gpe-bootsplash_1.15.bb: |
| 23:56.23 | CIA-4 | gpe-bootsplash 1.15: add new version, and fix a couple of error messages |
| 23:56.23 | CIA-4 | on boot by starting a little later. |
