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| 00:08.20 | hrw | ~lart scap badly for fscking c7x0 scaps |
| 00:08.56 | hrw | its useless on that machines |
| 00:09.13 | zecke | hrw: scap itself or the Opie plugin? |
| 00:09.41 | hrw | scap itself |
| 00:09.48 | hrw | nevermind do I use 'scap' in shell or opie-screenshotapplet |
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| 01:10.38 | hrw | cu all |
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| 02:13.00 | emte | woohoo |
| 02:13.20 | emte | i now know which commit killed things :) |
| 02:13.34 | emte | now to reverse the badness :) |
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| 02:31.30 | jacques | is anyone using oe for powerpc? |
| 02:35.59 | emte | building or target? |
| 02:40.13 | jacques | target |
| 02:40.17 | jnc | what is ac_cv_sizeof... hmmm |
| 02:40.20 | jacques | (sorry for not specifying) |
| 02:41.54 | jnc | emte: which commit killed the goodness? |
| 02:41.57 | emte | jacques, i cannot think of a project offhand that is specifically for ppc, so taht doesnt mean one doesnt exist |
| 02:42.16 | emte | jnc, it was a merge commit |
| 02:42.25 | jacques | emte, there is only one powerpc in machines dir, and it might be old - I am having trouble getting a powerpc toolchain to build |
| 02:42.31 | jacques | as I would expect if it's unused |
| 02:42.33 | emte | i am currently sorting out which part did it |
| 02:43.01 | emte | jacques, what distro are you trying to build? |
| 02:43.18 | emte | and how far do you get? |
| 02:43.58 | jacques | emte, it dies in building glibc-initial (I don't even know why it tries to built that, as the arm dists don't have it) |
| 02:44.25 | jacques | I was trying to build a variant of slugos, but that doesn't matter much as it's not even getting through the toolchain |
| 02:45.19 | emte | jacques, the arm dists build glibc-initial |
| 02:45.40 | jacques | they do? are you sure? |
| 02:45.46 | emte | but if your getting that far i susupect it might be the version of glibc you have specified |
| 02:45.53 | emte | yes |
| 02:46.05 | emte | glibc currently builds three times |
| 02:46.23 | emte | its one of the cyclic compile packages |
| 02:46.37 | jacques | but there is no glibc-initial dir in tmp/work |
| 02:46.42 | emte | you need glibc to compile glibc to compile a target glibc |
| 02:47.10 | emte | ? |
| 02:47.13 | jacques | but wouldn't there be a glibc-initial dir in tmp/work then? |
| 02:47.17 | emte | what is your specific error? |
| 02:47.31 | jacques | I am looking at a completed debianslug build tree |
| 02:47.43 | jacques | there is no glibc-initial dir in tmp/work |
| 02:48.11 | jacques | march 2nd |
| 02:48.19 | emte | newer ones are devided up more now |
| 02:48.59 | jnc | emte: *which* one |
| 02:49.19 | emte | ls tmp/work/ |
| 02:49.19 | emte | arm-linux/ h3600-linux/ i686-linux/ |
| 02:49.30 | emte | is specific for mine |
| 02:49.36 | jacques | ok that's new to me |
| 02:49.47 | jacques | I just have tmp/work and all the package build dirs |
| 02:50.01 | jacques | but still no glibc-initial |
| 02:50.03 | emte | i think you may need to update bitbake |
| 02:50.29 | jacques | I have watched slugos/debianslug build probably 80 times, and I don't even remember seeing glibc-initial |
| 02:50.44 | emte | unless your using an sdk i find it very odd you have the old setup |
| 02:51.50 | jacques | the nslu2/slugos/debianslug stuff is kept current |
| 02:51.56 | emte | jnc, 2310202db82b311ad297541e20f94d8bf5706860 is the merge ... the history was split for quite a while which is taking me a bit to sort out |
| 02:52.30 | emte | jacques, i suspect it is, but when was the last time you updated your bitbake? |
| 02:53.15 | jnc | emte: what goodness was killed? |
| 02:53.19 | jacques | the nslu2 stuff is self-contained, and I always start from scratch - I have learned what can happen with mismatched versions |
| 02:53.52 | emte | jnc, something introduced libgcc issues |
| 02:53.58 | jnc | oh hey yeah |
| 02:54.02 | jnc | i noticed that too today |
| 02:54.05 | jnc | and i made a post on the ML |
| 02:54.13 | jnc | didn't you get the TPS reports? |
| 02:54.22 | jacques | bitbake:__version__ = "1.3.2" |
| 02:54.38 | emte | jnc, there are a bunch of posts from me on the oe mailing list |
| 02:55.00 | emte | as well bug 747 is filed for it |
| 02:55.07 | jnc | okay |
| 02:56.05 | emte | i need to free up some drive space before i can compile again ... |
| 02:56.10 | emte | :( |
| 02:56.55 | emte | actually ... i'll just shutdown mozilla :) |
| 03:08.59 | ljp | use links |
| 03:11.30 | emte | lol |
| 03:11.55 | emte | yarssr is set to open mozilla when i click a commit |
| 03:12.37 | emte | jnc, btw your issue is not related |
| 03:12.51 | emte | infact i dont know how your missing libgcc |
| 03:13.17 | emte | its needed to compile glibc and other core libraries |
| 03:13.38 | jnc | no, it's not |
| 03:13.51 | jnc | the lib was libmygcc |
| 03:14.02 | emte | what is libmygcc? |
| 03:14.18 | jnc | i don't know, but it appeared to be either mysql or gcc |
| 03:15.34 | emte | searching returns that its probably gcc with a prefix |
| 03:16.04 | emte | hard to say tho |
| 03:16.33 | emte | yeah searching libmygcc gives a lot of mysql stuff ... |
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| 04:17.13 | emte | cd .. |
| 04:18.47 | JustinP | no thanks |
| 04:18.54 | emte | ? |
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| 04:22.33 | Necronom | What is the recomended host gcc version to use for oe builds? |
| 04:23.20 | JustinP | 3.4.4 I believe |
| 04:23.27 | JustinP | 3.4.x |
| 04:25.35 | emte | it depends what your looking for |
| 04:25.53 | emte | JustinP, you busy for a few min? |
| 04:27.48 | Necronom | Danke. |
| 04:28.21 | emte | can you take a read over this and tell me what you think? |
| 04:28.23 | emte | http://bugs.treke.net/show_bug.cgi?id=747 |
| 04:35.03 | JustinP | ummmm....looks like a bug all right... |
| 04:35.07 | JustinP | looks ok to me |
| 04:35.40 | emte | more curious on your thoughts about introducing -semistable |
| 04:37.04 | JustinP | seems useful to me |
| 04:37.28 | emte | yeah it makes sense to me for the reasons i'll expressed |
| 04:37.47 | emte | but its not exactly a practice that has been followed in the past |
| 04:38.45 | emte | i see it as one of the largest issues currently with oe |
| 04:38.54 | emte | things suddenly get broken |
| 04:39.17 | emte | even in what are concidered stable branches |
| 04:39.43 | emte | i know it cannot always be avoided |
| 04:40.20 | emte | but if we can reduce it and resolve the issues faster it would possibly entice more developers |
| 04:44.57 | emte | i am just happy OE builds again with a current repo |
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| 04:56.26 | emte | hey mithro, you busy? |
| 05:12.37 | jnc | emte: use stable |
| 05:15.13 | emte | jnc, i am |
| 05:16.09 | jnc | oh :/ |
| 05:16.09 | emte | thats the issue |
| 05:28.14 | jnc | i find that i need applications on my handheld like spreadsheet, text editor, and some sort of password keyring |
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| 05:34.29 | emte | install some then ... |
| 05:34.39 | emte | they should be in your world feed |
| 05:40.35 | jnc | i'm having trouble filling the keyring thing for GPE |
| 05:40.54 | jnc | there's a number of applications i could use if i was in an OPIE environment |
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| 06:34.52 | grma | good morning |
| 06:39.36 | jnc | hi |
| 06:39.51 | jnc | lack of suspend working on my C3000 keeps me from using it seriously |
| 06:39.54 | jnc | :/ |
| 06:40.01 | jnc | i'm selling it |
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| 06:58.54 | emte | jnc, i am curious if your aware taht opie has far more devs than gpe does |
| 06:59.56 | emte | i wouldnt mind that device ... if i were rich |
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| 07:06.29 | jnc | emte: i'll probably let it go for $350usd to a coworker |
| 07:06.38 | jnc | i paid 500 for it, i think |
| 07:08.16 | emte | yeah i am (poorly) trying to scratch up enough for some type of sub-notebook |
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| 07:30.31 | jnc | erm, sylpheed has permissions issues with bind and stuff on openzaurus |
| 07:30.36 | jnc | i think the issues are with openzaurus |
| 07:30.54 | jnc | normal users for the gpe-image target do not have permission to ping or bind sockets |
| 07:31.02 | jnc | no idea what that is controlled by |
| 07:34.17 | emte | ofcourse normal users dont |
| 07:34.22 | emte | why would they? |
| 07:34.45 | kergoth | ping is normally setuid root. only root can open raw sockets. thats true on any distro |
| 07:34.55 | emte | hey kergoth |
| 07:34.58 | kergoth | hey |
| 07:35.02 | emte | i found the problem btw |
| 07:35.19 | emte | the new binutils has some bad magic |
| 07:35.31 | kergoth | ah |
| 07:36.08 | emte | i was thinking the other day ... |
| 07:36.34 | emte | how hard do you think it would be to teach bitbake to read from a db? |
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| 07:40.18 | emte | hmm |
| 07:40.36 | emte | this is taking a while .... .ccache must be a few gb ... |
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| 07:46.06 | Cockroach- | morning |
| 07:46.48 | emte | morn |
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| 07:56.41 | Mardy | hi all |
| 08:12.31 | jnc | nice, gnumeric built okay |
| 08:13.44 | emte | but does it run ... |
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| 08:14.01 | jnc | not sure |
| 08:14.10 | emte | anyway sleep time for me |
| 08:14.13 | Genesis | o? |
| 08:14.24 | jnc | i'm having problems using my Z, like i said, until the suspend/resume is fixed |
| 08:14.42 | emte | we will see what happens with my bug tomorrow |
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| 08:23.35 | koen | emte: if you want smoething stable, don't use .dev |
| 08:23.43 | koen | and good morning all |
| 08:24.02 | koen | emte: also note that familiar is unmaintained in .dev |
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| 08:49.09 | hrw|work | morning |
| 08:49.43 | koen | hey hrw|work |
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| 08:51.38 | koen | NOTE: package gpe-image-1.0: completed |
| 08:53.03 | XorA | morning |
| 08:53.09 | koen | he XorA |
| 08:53.17 | XorA | oooh, EABI angstrom images |
| 08:53.40 | koen | I did forget to patch the kernel, so it worn't boot |
| 08:53.45 | koen | but at least it builds |
| 08:55.12 | XorA | heh heh |
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| 09:06.01 | grma | koen: today i tried a task-bootstrap, i think i make something wrong: http://de.pastebin.ca/46013 |
| 09:06.07 | grma | koen: any idea ? |
| 09:07.54 | grma | could it be that OE dosen not like it when using symlinks ? |
| 09:07.56 | koen | grma: you have a symlink in your path and libtool doesn't like that |
| 09:09.02 | grma | ahh |
| 09:09.05 | grma | thanks |
| 09:13.49 | _law_ | hmm :-( http://pastebin.com/607015 gnu-config-native problem |
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| 09:14.33 | koen | try rebuilding it |
| 09:15.33 | koen | hail zecke |
| 09:16.57 | koen | aaargh |
| 09:16.58 | koen | NameError: global name 'svn_rsh' is not defined |
| 09:19.18 | koen | zecke: it seems someone killed the svn fetcher |
| 09:19.58 | koen | zecke: to reproduce: bitbake -b gnome/gnome-vfs-dbus_svn.bb |
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| 09:28.58 | XorA | ~lart perl build |
| 09:29.05 | XorA | its full of hardcoded paths |
| 09:33.00 | XorA | I suppose one thing about gentoo multilib is it exposes all these fsckups |
| 09:38.21 | zecke | damn damn damn |
| 09:38.37 | zecke | ~fishslap zecke |
| 09:38.42 | ibot | ACTION slaps zecke up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 09:39.08 | zecke | koen: don't use a broken bitbake? |
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| 09:40.10 | Bernardo | Good morning |
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| 09:41.04 | alan|home | morning all |
| 09:41.11 | Genesis | bonjour le normand |
| 09:41.52 | alan|home | Genesis: hey hey ! one more french here ! |
| 09:42.26 | Genesis | one more normand :) |
| 09:42.28 | hrw|work | alan|home: you are enough? |
| 09:42.55 | XorA | quick someone disinfect the channel :-) |
| 09:42.58 | Genesis | alan|home, : i come from caen :) |
| 09:43.29 | alan|home | Genesis: indeed, we are quite close... |
| 09:43.41 | alan|home | XorA: :p |
| 09:44.15 | alan|home | Genesis: first time i see you here... are you a new OE fan ? |
| 09:44.23 | Genesis | yes |
| 09:44.35 | alan|home | XorA: what did you do to my french friend obergix ?? |
| 09:44.52 | alan|home | Genesis: congrats and welcome |
| 09:45.12 | Genesis | i block at UART boostrap |
| 09:45.45 | Genesis | f*cking proprio tools i've no key |
| 09:45.51 | alan|home | UART ? don't know what this is... (^^)' |
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| 09:46.09 | Genesis | oki |
| 09:46.36 | Genesis | i shall make a e-book plateform with the mx21 |
| 09:46.41 | XorA | woo another perl cross compile bug fixed |
| 09:46.52 | Genesis | if someone work with that , tell me i really need help :) |
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| 09:47.19 | zecke | koen: sorry, koen, fixed now |
| 09:47.49 | zecke | koen: the code I killed was CVS specific, I didn't expect it was used in the fetcher ata ll |
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| 09:52.31 | alan|home | haaa...obergix[work] has been released by XorA... |
| 09:53.20 | XorA | eeeep, more of them |
| 09:54.30 | alan|home | god, i love XGL... wonder if xegl will work one day on a zaurus... would need a woking 3D first... |
| 09:54.59 | Bernardo | XorA: me too... :) |
| 09:56.05 | koen | ~seen proti |
| 09:56.23 | ibot | proti <n=seb@calypso.frankengul.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 104d 10h 16m 19s ago, saying: 'I want asterisk to register as From: <01233> ? Can't figure the correct parameters ?'. |
| 10:00.11 | Bernardo | anyone can tell me why on_runmake will call "arm-linux-gcc" and make will call "arm-linux-gcc-2.95" (the correct compiler for kernel 2.4.20 on a akita)? |
| 10:01.23 | koen | did you inherit module or module-base? |
| 10:07.13 | Bernardo | module |
| 10:08.14 | Bernardo | I also need ot detect before the build the kernel version, one of the parameters to pass to the makefile is either 4 or 6 depending on kernel evrsion being 2.4.x or 2.6.x |
| 10:12.28 | hrw|work | use KERNEL_MAJOR_VERSION iirc |
| 10:12.35 | hrw|work | Bernardo: look t bug #524 |
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| 10:23.37 | Bernardo | hrw|work: thanks |
| 10:24.45 | Bernardo | hrw|work: I don't think bug #524 applies, as I have different build areas for each version |
| 10:24.58 | hrw|work | Bernardo: you can find how to check 2.4/2.6 there |
| 10:25.33 | Bernardo | you're right, sorry |
| 10:25.38 | hrw|work | KERNEL_MAJOR_VERSION is 2.4/2.6 |
| 10:41.30 | katossi_uni | does anyone know about any success with cacao jvm and arm arquitecture? |
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| 11:00.40 | hrw|work | someone know smallest-possible library which will provide gfx resize functions? |
| 11:01.02 | zecke | hrw|work: scaling of images? |
| 11:01.43 | koen | epeg? |
| 11:02.06 | zecke | imlib1 |
| 11:02.10 | hrw|work | thx |
| 11:02.33 | katossi_uni | should I report every error obtained while compiling a full gpe-image with gcc 4.1, or is it crazy? |
| 11:02.36 | hrw|work | I want to experiment a bit with resizing for cfxga-util mirror function |
| 11:03.03 | koen | hrw|work: you have a cfxga card now? |
| 11:03.12 | hrw|work | koen: no - have user with it |
| 11:03.21 | hrw|work | and 6h timezone difference |
| 11:03.32 | koen | I noticed IO data EOL'ed it |
| 11:03.42 | hrw|work | yes |
| 11:03.58 | hrw|work | last ones was at trisoft and company |
| 11:04.25 | koen | I wonder if the kdrive bits still work |
| 11:04.38 | koen | Xfbdev -pcmcia iirc |
| 11:05.01 | koen | ugh |
| 11:05.07 | koen | E199,- |
| 11:05.12 | hrw|work | I got 480x480 output from this on tosa |
| 11:05.16 | koen | that's above my E30 budget :) |
| 11:05.25 | hrw|work | E30 for any gadget? |
| 11:07.11 | koen | yes |
| 11:11.00 | hrw|work | I currently stopped buying any gadgets |
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| 12:10.03 | leoncamel | happy weekend .. :) |
| 12:10.54 | grma | | ipkg: Cannot create directory `/usr/lib/ipkg': Permission denied |
| 12:10.58 | grma | why want ipk build a directory in user lib ? |
| 12:11.12 | grma | s/ipk/ipkg/ |
| 12:11.56 | koen | grma: that one is harmless |
| 12:12.30 | grma | ok, mkdir ,chmod and run bitbake new ? |
| 12:12.41 | koen | no, it needs to fail |
| 12:12.52 | koen | unless you want arm packages littering your host system ;) |
| 12:13.48 | grma | ok |
| 12:15.00 | grma | koen: ok --> nok ... how to go on ? |
| 12:18.01 | koen | run another bitbake |
| 12:18.12 | grma | ok |
| 12:19.01 | grma | not bootstrap-image, gpe-image or something like that ? |
| 12:19.29 | koen | rerun the command that you typed earlier |
| 12:20.15 | grma | ok |
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| 12:32.05 | grma | koen: i still have a problem can you look what is wrong : http://de.pastebin.ca/46019 ??? |
| 12:32.38 | koen | ah, that bugs |
| 12:32.50 | grma | :-) |
| 12:32.52 | koen | try: |
| 12:33.05 | koen | bitbake base-files base-passwd busybox initscripts netbase sysvinit sysvinit-pidof tinylogin modutils-initscripts fuser setserial linux-hotplug familiar-version ipkg-collateral ipkg ipkg-link udev module-init-tools modutils-depmod module-init-tools-depmod bootstrap-image -k |
| 12:33.55 | grma | ahh, what is -k for ? |
| 12:34.25 | koen | continue on error |
| 12:34.39 | victorz | koen: but why meta-packages don't ensure that all their dependencies are built ? |
| 12:34.40 | grma | :-) thats a good switch :-) |
| 12:35.01 | koen | victorz: due to a bug in bitbake |
| 12:35.02 | victorz | is it a feature ? |
| 12:35.04 | victorz | ah, ok |
| 12:35.23 | victorz | nasty feature, then :/ |
| 12:35.27 | koen | indeed |
| 12:35.54 | koen | it usually happens when some package fails to build and you restart bitbake |
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| 12:39.46 | grma | koen: thanks it build ... |
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| 12:48.23 | Ifaistos | Greetings to all ! |
| 12:49.06 | grma | koen: unsatisfied recommendation --> i should add to bitbake ? |
| 12:49.24 | koen | grma: recommendations are harmless |
| 12:49.46 | koen | grma: I added a few recommendations for kernel modules that are now built in to the kernel |
| 12:49.57 | koen | bbl |
| 12:50.17 | grma | ok, then on next build i have too look why it gets not build, i wait for finish ... |
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| 13:15.33 | grma | | ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for task-bootstrap: |
| 13:15.34 | grma | | fuser modutils-depmod |
| 13:15.34 | grma | NOTE: Task failed: /disk_1/OE/stuff/build/tmp/work/ep93xx-linux/bootstrap-image-1.0-r0/temp/log.do_rootfs.14083 |
| 13:15.45 | grma | can some one tell me what to do ? |
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| 13:17.38 | ade|desk | build fuser and modutils-depmod and then build bootstrap-image ? |
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| 13:19.09 | hrw|work | ade|desk: did you saw http://oe.handhelds.org/people.php page? |
| 13:20.40 | grma | ade|desk: ok i have tried but ERROR: Nothing provides modutils-depmod and ERROR: Nothing provides fuser |
| 13:21.18 | hrw|work | build modutils for modutils-depmod |
| 13:21.44 | hrw|work | and psmisc for fuser |
| 13:22.23 | grma | i should do : bitbake modutils psmisc ? |
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| 13:38.39 | grma | hrw|work: thanks |
| 13:38.56 | hrw|work | yes |
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| 13:46.11 | grma | hrw|work: compiled finished, yeah thanks. how could i now make that on next build the same cvs,svn and other version controll systems use the smae version. I want that on next build it gets build like now ... |
| 13:46.53 | hrw|work | use fixed SRCDATE in local.conf |
| 13:46.55 | grma | and whne i now want to build gpe-image it would be good to copie the hole tmp to _tmp_task_bootstrap ? |
| 13:47.26 | hrw|work | no need to do this |
| 13:47.33 | grma | SRCDATE --> some example ? |
| 13:47.41 | hrw|work | SRCDATE=YYYYMMDD |
| 13:47.47 | hrw|work | 20060316 for example |
| 13:47.55 | hrw|work | ISO date format |
| 13:48.13 | grma | OK thanks |
| 13:58.35 | mithro | arg... |
| 13:58.45 | mithro | have to install windows software :/ |
| 14:05.50 | grma | koen: thanks bootstrap-image completed, missing was: modutils psmisc |
| 14:06.16 | grma | no try gpe :-) |
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| 14:07.51 | grma | koen: http://de.pastebin.ca/46024 oops |
| 14:09.01 | koen | hrm |
| 14:09.06 | koen | stupid bitbake bug |
| 14:09.12 | grma | :-) i am sorry |
| 14:09.16 | koen | try |
| 14:09.51 | koen | bitbake <list of stuff it complains about> -k |
| 14:10.03 | grma | ok |
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| 14:11.07 | hrw|work | hi Bernardo|away |
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| 14:17.11 | koen | orbet2-native does an infinite loop when building |
| 14:17.23 | koen | orbit2 even |
| 14:18.29 | XorA | koen: havent seen that |
| 14:20.53 | victorz | make -j is broken with orbit |
| 14:21.07 | victorz | remove PARALLEL_MAKE |
| 14:21.45 | victorz | at least, it worked for me :) |
| 14:23.03 | koen | try adding PARALLEL_MAKE = "" to orbit2 |
| 14:23.14 | koen | that will disable it only for orbit2 |
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| 14:25.13 | victorz | I also added this line in orbit2-native_2.13.2.bb |
| 14:27.55 | CIA-1 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r56deb4c1... 10/packages/gnome/orbit2-native_2.13.2.bb: orbit2-native: disable parallel make |
| 14:29.19 | katossi | rxvt-unicode has problems with gcc 4.1 |
| 14:29.48 | koen | it works fine over here |
| 14:30.08 | koen | gcc 4.1 + glibc 2.4 |
| 14:32.40 | victorz | did you find something for ecore-x11 and Xutf8TextPropertyToTextList ? |
| 14:33.22 | katossi | koen: really? maybe I'm missing something. I get something like : error: #error set intp_t |
| 14:37.14 | katossi | koen: If not glibc version is explicitly defined, what do I get? I guess 2.4 is too new |
| 14:40.03 | XorA | koen: btw can you pastebin me the bits/setjmp.h out of glibc 2.4? I want to check for something |
| 14:43.11 | ade|desk | hrw|work: re: people.php .. cool very useful |
| 14:43.30 | hrw|work | ade|desk: your function? |
| 14:45.05 | ade|desk | good question, i often wonder, as does my wife |
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| 14:46.24 | hrw|work | XorA: hmm. |
| 14:46.41 | XorA | apart from crashing the sd driver again :-( |
| 14:46.57 | ade|desk | hrw|work: i don't have a particular field, i just happen to fix parts that stop me from doing whatever i need doing at that time |
| 14:47.32 | hrw|work | ok |
| 14:48.06 | hrw|work | ade|desk: 'local uclibc guru' ;D |
| 14:48.20 | ade|desk | lol, i think not |
| 14:50.02 | ade|desk | might take a look at bending rdesktop to use gnutls first before killing uclibc |
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| 15:00.56 | tmbinc | hm, did anybody looked at gstreamer-0.10? i've made some .bb files for the .dreambox brach (without x etc.), so if anybody wants to pick them up and put them in the .dev branch, that would be great. However i can't maintain them for non-dreambox architectures/distributions, so I won't put them in the .dev branch myself. |
| 15:04.01 | koen | please put them in .dev yourself |
| 15:04.51 | hrw|work | then someone will take care of them |
| 15:04.56 | tmbinc | ok |
| 15:05.36 | hrw|work | ~seen mickeyl |
| 15:05.41 | ibot | mickeyl is currently on #oe #opie, last said: 'optimist, even'. |
| 15:06.07 | hrw|work | two days ago ibot |
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| 15:06.59 | CIA-1 | 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * rdc569639... 10/packages/gstreamer/ (6 files): gstreamer: add gstreamer-0.10, gst-plugins-base,-good,-bad,-ugly |
| 15:07.03 | CIA-1 | 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r5a60e958... 10/packages/gstreamer/gst-plugins.inc: gst-plugins: fix metadata |
| 15:07.39 | tmbinc | (i'll commit them later to .dev, need bring the .dev branch up-to-date first) |
| 15:09.54 | tmbinc | btw how is the preferred order for the .bb file entries again (LICENSE, PR, DESCRIPTION etc.)? (is that documented somewhere?) |
| 15:11.06 | hrw|work | it was on wiki somewhere |
| 15:14.41 | tmbinc | http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/bb_20file, ok thanks |
| 15:15.55 | tmbinc | Suggested declaration order is: DESCRIPTION, SECTION, LICENSE, HOMEPAGE, MAINTAINER, DEPENDS, RDEPENDS, PV, PR, inherit, SRC_URI, S, do_configure(), do_compile(), do_stage(), do_install(), PACKAGES, FILES |
| 15:16.01 | tmbinc | really FILES at the end? |
| 15:16.35 | hrw|work | yes |
| 15:16.43 | hrw|work | atleast after PACKAGES |
| 15:17.10 | hrw|work | XorA: another one died? |
| 15:17.33 | XorA | hrw|work: nothing wrong with the card as far as I can ascertain, the linux driver just crashes when doing large writes |
| 15:17.51 | XorA | hrw|work: but no oops or error messages, processes just enter D state |
| 15:18.21 | hrw|work | welcome in world where specs are closed |
| 15:18.40 | XorA | hrw|work: yeah :-( I so need to buy a CXX00 and forget SD forever |
| 15:19.21 | hrw|work | ;) |
| 15:19.27 | ade|desk | XorA: i'd go 3x00 now, 1000 is a bit limiting |
| 15:19.29 | hrw|work | buy c1000 ;D |
| 15:19.44 | XorA | ade|desk: anything with a microdrive will do me |
| 15:20.26 | ade|desk | yeah but using the one and only useful interface for disk space seems silly to me now |
| 15:20.27 | XorA | or a way to get two CF devices on c7x0 |
| 15:21.04 | XorA | ade|desk: you missed me point, I want microdrive + one free CF slot |
| 15:21.42 | ade|desk | if only sharp made a hx4700 + keyboard clamshell |
| 15:22.49 | ade|desk | no wait even better a 3x00 with bt and wifi and usb 2@480 |
| 15:23.42 | hrw|work | ade|desk: and 1.2GHz arm with real fpu, 256M of ram.... and that or that... ;D |
| 15:24.10 | koen | the omap 3430 has fpu + dsp + 3d |
| 15:24.13 | koen | on one chip |
| 15:24.24 | ade|desk | or free gprs for all, a good X head clamshell and an 8-way amd box back at base |
| 15:24.45 | hrw|work | 4xopteron 875 in pda |
| 15:25.14 | ade|desk | nah, just a head to it in my pocket. |
| 15:25.39 | XorA | hrw|work: 4xopteron is gonna cook yah nuts :-) |
| 15:30.32 | hrw|work | who said that I will have it in shirt pocket? |
| 15:32.53 | CIA-1 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r6b9aad33... 10/packages/xournal/xournal_0.2.bb: xournal: add 0.2 |
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| 15:40.31 | mickeyl | hi |
| 15:41.10 | hrw|work | hi mickeyl |
| 15:41.55 | hrw|work | mickeyl: how goes build? |
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| 15:44.29 | mickeyl | finished |
| 15:44.31 | mickeyl | and uploaded |
| 15:44.37 | mickeyl | now do with it what you want :D |
| 15:44.50 | mickeyl | everyhing is below /data/tmp/mickeyl/openzaurus/ |
| 15:45.15 | hrw|work | ok |
| 15:45.17 | hrw|work | great |
| 15:46.05 | hrw|work | ls |wc = 11094 - BIG |
| 15:46.33 | hrw|work | 820M feed... nice |
| 15:48.48 | hrw|work | hm. first do a backup. |
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| 15:50.41 | mickeyl | yeah |
| 15:50.48 | mickeyl | ah i also prepared a log for you |
| 15:50.54 | mickeyl | let me put it online |
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| 15:51.30 | koen | hey zecke |
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| 15:51.35 | pb__ | hail zecke, mickey |
| 15:51.41 | mickeyl | hey pb_ |
| 15:51.42 | mickeyl | hi zecke |
| 15:51.52 | zecke | mickeyl: hey |
| 15:52.08 | mickeyl | hrw: http://vanille.de/temp/worldbuild.log |
| 15:53.38 | hrw|work | fetched |
| 15:54.02 | hrw|work | 1.9G ./openzaurus |
| 15:54.09 | hrw|work | rulz |
| 15:56.40 | koen | mickeyl: nice timing: you finished 3.5.4 when pH5 booted an EABI image on his iPAQ :) |
| 15:58.16 | hrw|work | mickeyl: can you chmod files/dirs so I can change there? no need to use 6G for one release (your copy, my copy, release) |
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| 15:58.59 | katossi | koen: glibc 2.4 is giving me this error: "compiler support for __thread is required", what does it mean? |
| 15:59.19 | koen | that you need nptl or linuxthreads iirc |
| 16:00.02 | hrw|work | koen: and as I set in #openzaurus: release <2006.03.20 |
| 16:00.39 | katossi | koen: how do I do that? |
| 16:01.26 | koen | katossi: no idea, it worked for me with the angstrom configs |
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| 16:02.26 | mickeyl | koen: heh, cool |
| 16:02.34 | mickeyl | hrw|work: yeah, holdon |
| 16:02.46 | hrw|work | mickeyl: I already copied it anyway :) |
| 16:02.52 | katossi | I guess GLIBC_ADDONS = "nptl" in the akita conf should make it |
| 16:03.05 | hrw|work | katossi: its rather distro thing |
| 16:03.18 | katossi | aha the I'll check the oz |
| 16:03.34 | mickeyl | hrw|work: everything a+rwx |
| 16:04.02 | hrw|work | ok |
| 16:04.40 | hrw|work | feed/(base, x11, machine/*/, locale/*/, opie) + empty feed/gpe/ |
| 16:05.12 | hrw|work | mv 3.5.4-world-build/* . |
| 16:05.16 | hrw|work | bash: /bin/mv: Argument list too long |
| 16:05.18 | hrw|work | heh.. |
| 16:05.23 | mickeyl | :D |
| 16:05.28 | hrw|work | 11093 files |
| 16:05.51 | mickeyl | crazy |
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| 16:06.29 | sws | hi |
| 16:06.45 | katossi | hrw|work: everytime I delete my tmp happens to me, use 'for' is a good idea I think |
| 16:08.03 | zecke | hrw|work: use GNU! |
| 16:08.35 | hrw|work | started split-world |
| 16:09.14 | sws | hrw: i had a problem compiling oz354fam083 branch for poodle, seems to be a typo in poodle-2.4.conf PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel = "poodle-kernels-2.4-embedix" should be "poodle-kernel-2.4-embedix" :) |
| 16:10.09 | hrw|work | sws: ok - will try to remember |
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| 16:12.44 | AwayNAiL | ugh |
| 16:12.45 | AwayNAiL | monotone: trying 3-way merge |
| 16:12.45 | AwayNAiL | monotone: help required for 3-way merge |
| 16:12.45 | AwayNAiL | monotone: [ancestor] conf/distro/angstrom-2006.9.conf |
| 16:25.33 | hrw|work | mickeyl: no perl? |
| 16:25.54 | hrw|work | NOTE: package perl-5.8.7-r14: task do_patch: failed |
| 16:25.56 | hrw|work | ok |
| 16:26.11 | hrw|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:26.11 | hrw|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:26.11 | hrw|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:26.15 | hrw|work | not nice ;( |
| 16:28.51 | mickeyl | yeah |
| 16:29.10 | mickeyl | 191 weren't working in the last run |
| 16:29.12 | hrw|work | http://pastebin.com/607622 - feeds size |
| 16:29.13 | mickeyl | it's below 10% though |
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| 16:29.41 | mickeyl | hrw|work: not bad |
| 16:30.38 | hrw|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:30.39 | mickeyl | time to give RP a big fat green light to do his 2.6 magic |
| 16:30.44 | mickeyl | in .branch |
| 16:31.32 | mickeyl | i still prefer a split by SECTION but it's your call this time :) |
| 16:31.49 | CosmicPenguin | squashfs 3.0 has been released |
| 16:32.18 | mickeyl | anyone follow unionfs ? |
| 16:32.32 | mickeyl | I'm still hoping this to work out eventually |
| 16:32.38 | CosmicPenguin | I use it whenever possible |
| 16:32.43 | CosmicPenguin | what happened? Was there a crisis? |
| 16:33.01 | mickeyl | other than it OOPses like hell on arm, it's ok |
| 16:33.07 | mickeyl | i was hoping they could find those bugs |
| 16:33.14 | mickeyl | didn't look at it for some month |
| 16:33.14 | mickeyl | s |
| 16:34.27 | koen | instead of saying "you can't do that, you idiot", it oopses |
| 16:34.39 | mickeyl | heh, yeah kind of that |
| 16:35.54 | koen | when trying to explain that people say "why don't you stop issueing wrong commands?" |
| 16:36.09 | mickeyl | hey that sounds familiar to us ;) |
| 16:36.24 | mickeyl | OT: first angstrom build launched |
| 16:36.46 | koen | I bet it will fail to find some kernel headers |
| 16:36.56 | koen | the fix is obvious, but needs a clean way |
| 16:38.36 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 16:38.37 | mickeyl | eek |
| 16:38.40 | mickeyl | much ealier |
| 16:38.51 | mickeyl | ERROR: Nothing provides runtime dependency perl-native-runtime |
| 16:39.06 | koen | sounds like your local.conf is broken |
| 16:39.18 | koen | hint: ASSUME_PROVIDED += "foo" |
| 16:39.34 | mickeyl | what's that? *g* |
| 16:40.05 | koen|food | mickeyl: the first chapter of my theses got approved today :) |
| 16:40.34 | mickeyl | koen|food: yay, congrats! |
| 16:40.48 | mickeyl | my boss just blew my 5th chapter away today :/ |
| 16:41.16 | mickeyl | "i don't understand it. we need to work on the structure. what's this and that and this? did you read foo and bar and ...." |
| 16:41.23 | mickeyl | *sigh* |
| 16:42.05 | hrw|work | koen|food: your split-feed does not work with arm+armv5te packages |
| 16:42.10 | mickeyl | it always needs a number of iterations to get something into his mind |
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| 16:47.46 | mickeyl | bbl |
| 16:47.57 | Bernardo | cu mickey|bbl |
| 16:51.03 | Genesis | bye |
| 16:51.12 | CIA-1 | 03eFfeM 07org.oe.dev * r27b9c5ad... 10/packages/ (3 files in 3 dirs): pvrusb2-mci: upgrade to fix undetected host dependency |
| 16:55.23 | katossi | I'm gonna give a try to angstrom and akita, and see what happends |
| 16:56.55 | kergoth | bleh |
| 16:58.26 | pb__ | bleh indeed |
| 16:58.38 | pb__ | fitting these 0402 components by hand is no fun |
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| 17:18.15 | hrw|work | cu |
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| 17:21.41 | chris144 | hi guys |
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| 17:42.31 | reenoo | afternoon |
| 17:45.47 | france_ | reenoo: hello! |
| 17:46.16 | reenoo | hey france_ |
| 17:46.37 | france_ | reenoo: hi |
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| 18:07.05 | CosmicPenguin | chris144: I don't know if they told you, but there is .src.rpm support in OE, but its ancient |
| 18:07.22 | CosmicPenguin | chris144: by ancient, I mean from the early days of OE when kergoth was still getting it working |
| 18:07.31 | chris144 | hi CosmicPenguin |
| 18:07.40 | koen | maybe uv1 could help you with that |
| 18:07.45 | koen | he works in an rpm shop |
| 18:07.49 | chris144 | ho koen |
| 18:07.56 | koen | hey chris144 |
| 18:08.57 | koen | ~seen uv1 |
| 18:09.02 | ibot | uv1 <n=kvirc@p50892AA4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 1d 22h 45m 23s ago, saying: 'Bye ...'. |
| 18:09.27 | chris144 | guys, I think I fixed it in the meantime, have a look if you like at: http://pastebin.ca/46047 |
| 18:10.24 | CosmicPenguin | There's another option that doesn't have a rpm dependency |
| 18:10.32 | koen | cpio |
| 18:10.44 | CosmicPenguin | do_unpack() { |
| 18:10.44 | CosmicPenguin | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:10.44 | CosmicPenguin | } |
| 18:11.03 | CosmicPenguin | there should be a perl based version of rpm2cpio in the repo |
| 18:11.37 | chris144 | CosmicPenguin: do you think I should use that in the .bb? |
| 18:11.47 | CosmicPenguin | I know that building rpm-native is a cast iron bitch |
| 18:12.22 | kergoth | hehe, i remember using oe to build montavista src.rpms and emit ipks |
| 18:12.24 | CosmicPenguin | And its complete hell on a AMD64 |
| 18:12.26 | CosmicPenguin | or at least it was |
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| 18:13.08 | chris144 | CosmicPenguin: ok, my bb file uses the systemwide rpm, not ideal; I know that I should use DEPENDS rpm-native... |
| 18:13.16 | CosmicPenguin | so if it was me, I would use the rpm2cpio and call it good |
| 18:13.56 | chris144 | CosmicPenguin: ok, I 'll give it a try... |
| 18:17.09 | chris144 | koen: I saw your talk on fosdem, I downloaded it from Free Electrons.. |
| 18:17.20 | chris144 | not bad :-) |
| 18:17.23 | koen | :) |
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| 18:18.24 | chris144 | kergoth: did you write the ancient rpm support in oe? |
| 18:24.23 | kergoth | i wrote most of everything ancient in oe and bitbake |
| 18:24.24 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:24.26 | kergoth | so yes |
| 18:24.34 | emte | lol |
| 18:25.01 | kergoth | hehe |
| 18:25.32 | CosmicPenguin | What a long and storied history |
| 18:25.52 | CosmicPenguin | its come a long way from the ginormous monolithic makefile that we used for Tuxscreen |
| 18:26.34 | kergoth | hehe. yep. |
| 18:26.34 | hrw | hi |
| 18:26.37 | koen | hey hrw |
| 18:26.59 | hrw | makefile for Tuxscreen -> OZ buildroot -> OE -> OE + BitBake? |
| 18:27.00 | chris144 | :-) |
| 18:27.04 | kergoth | i liked the old buildroot we used, with the seperate maekfiels for each package, and the make menuconfig support and all |
| 18:27.13 | kergoth | was pretty slick, all thing sconsidered |
| 18:27.32 | CosmicPenguin | Just couldn't handle dependancies |
| 18:27.45 | kergoth | it could, actually |
| 18:27.46 | koen | or scale to a gazillion packages |
| 18:27.50 | CosmicPenguin | There is still a decent community of buildroot users |
| 18:28.03 | kergoth | i autogenerated the makefile rules based on th edepends inside of the menuconfig menu declarations |
| 18:28.15 | CosmicPenguin | heh - really? I guess I never saw that part |
| 18:28.40 | kergoth | yeah. it was pretty sick, and we had to have a seperate file for dependencies that didnt fit into the autogeneration |
| 18:28.51 | kergoth | definately come a long way from all that |
| 18:29.04 | koen | for a single machine with a fixed set of packages buildroot is pretty ok |
| 18:29.08 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: i was glad to see erik & co make theri buildroot less monolithic too |
| 18:29.10 | kergoth | nod |
| 18:29.18 | kergoth | its hard to get past make's limitations though |
| 18:29.24 | kergoth | i was cursing gnu like every day |
| 18:29.25 | kergoth | :) |
| 18:29.36 | CosmicPenguin | And thats different then now, how? |
| 18:29.40 | kergoth | point. |
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| 18:33.37 | chris144|dinner | good appetite |
| 18:37.03 | kergoth | hehe, http://www.bigbold.com/snippets/posts/show/1709 is cool. never saw that |
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| 18:46.35 | koen | scary |
| 18:46.44 | koen | 250GB disks are only 100 euros nowadays |
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| 19:03.30 | cbrake_ | CosmicPenguin: still working through x86 build, now I'm getting: http://pastebin.com/607846 |
| 19:04.21 | hrw | koen: first have to have those 100 eur spare ;) |
| 19:04.58 | hrw | but what for 250GB? I use 120GB and have to much trash on it and free space |
| 19:05.29 | koen | 4 OE trees and storage for mythtv |
| 19:06.03 | hrw | hmm.. mythtv sounds nice but it need dvb? |
| 19:07.14 | koen | not that I know of |
| 19:07.19 | koen | I used with a bttv card |
| 19:07.36 | hrw | that one I have |
| 19:08.01 | hrw | fsckiing pixelview crap but it works (if very properly configured) |
| 19:08.51 | hrw | koen: you updated python on ewi and removed psyco? |
| 19:09.09 | koen | iirc I only updated python |
| 19:09.27 | hrw | hrw@bitbake:~/devel/build/oz354-prefinal$ bitbake perl |
| 19:09.27 | hrw | NOTE: Psyco JIT Compiler (http://psyco.sf.net) not available. Install it to increase performance. |
| 19:11.38 | koen | hrw: don't forget to give me the name of the new branch so I can put that in my sync script |
| 19:12.06 | hrw | koen: I will announce it on oe@, oz-devel, fam-dev |
| 19:12.19 | koen | heh |
| 19:12.34 | koen | the last one seems a bit wrong |
| 19:12.56 | koen | no discussion is allowed there till 0.8.3 gets out |
| 19:13.40 | hrw | I know but wanted them to know that new branch is because of that |
| 19:13.52 | hrw | .oz354x familiar free |
| 19:14.21 | koen | diefamdie |
| 19:15.01 | hrw | ~12000 packages for oz 3.5.4 - I have perl |
| 19:15.27 | koen | the split script needs some mickeyl python magic |
| 19:15.41 | hrw | yes |
| 19:15.44 | hrw | and more love |
| 19:15.53 | hrw | I optimized feeds by hand |
| 19:16.27 | hrw | libxsomethhing goes to x11 but -dec -dev to base |
| 19:19.10 | zecke | koen: OT: do you boot your NSLU2 from hard disk? |
| 19:19.12 | koen | I think a dev/ and doc/ feed would also be nice |
| 19:19.20 | zecke | koen: do you have OpenSlug on your harddisk? |
| 19:19.30 | koen | zecke: from flash and openslug on the hd |
| 19:19.42 | koen | 2.5 or something ancient like that |
| 19:19.42 | zecke | koen: do you chroot? |
| 19:19.50 | zecke | koen: used turnup disk? |
| 19:19.57 | koen | turnup disk |
| 19:20.09 | zecke | koen: how did you get OpenSlug to your disk? |
| 19:20.11 | koen | my next plan is to install slugos-btu in flash |
| 19:20.16 | hrw | koen: was thinking about dev/ doc/ too |
| 19:20.27 | koen | zecke: flash it, boot it, turnup disk, done |
| 19:20.40 | zecke | koen: what was the 'u' again? bigendian-thumb-u? |
| 19:20.47 | koen | uclibc |
| 19:21.07 | zecke | koen: ah, hmm let us see if turnup disk works with HFSPLUS |
| 19:21.20 | hrw | koen: 488 doc, 643 dev - no need for subfeeds |
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| 19:22.06 | koen | hrw: 10% speed increase and 10% saved bandwidth |
| 19:22.42 | hrw | and tmpfs space |
| 19:23.39 | hrw | koen: fam 0.8.x used base/ opie/ x11/ machine/*/ feed structure? |
| 19:24.09 | koen | base/ opie/ x11/ machine/*/ and locale/* was the original plan |
| 19:24.18 | koen | no idea what the current team comes up with |
| 19:24.27 | hrw | thats why I asked 'used' |
| 19:24.33 | koen | since everything already done is bad(tm) and NIH(tm) |
| 19:32.06 | zecke | koen: tigert is still working at Novell? |
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| 19:32.14 | zecke | koen: Novell started supporting maemo? |
| 19:32.22 | koen | zecke: no, he got fired a while back |
| 19:32.22 | hrw | nih? |
| 19:32.28 | koen | he works at nokia now |
| 19:32.34 | koen | hrw: Not Invented Here |
| 19:32.40 | hrw | ah.. |
| 19:32.44 | zecke | koen: oh :( |
| 19:33.06 | zecke | koen: so he was hit by the job cut :} |
| 19:33.10 | koen | yes |
| 19:33.43 | leira | i have a question, when a bb file use debian's orig.tar.gz and diff.gz, what dose it want from debian's diff.gz? |
| 19:33.52 | leira | the rules file? |
| 19:33.58 | leira | or debian's patch? |
| 19:34.02 | hrw | leira: patches |
| 19:34.17 | leira | hrw, i do not understand |
| 19:34.35 | hrw | leira: debian.diff contain extra patches to original sources |
| 19:35.23 | leira | debian's patch is not applied when extract the diff.gz file, but applied when apt-build invoked the rules file |
| 19:35.47 | koen | OE doesn't use apt-build |
| 19:36.03 | leira | the debian.diff contains the debian dir under the orig dir |
| 19:36.10 | kergoth | oe doesnt generally use teh stock debian diff.gz. |
| 19:36.19 | kergoth | and should not, since most of it is irrelevent |
| 19:37.04 | leira | for example, package dash |
| 19:37.30 | leira | the debian's diff.gz contains a debian dir under dash's orig dir |
| 19:37.40 | kergoth | yes, we know how debian packages work, thanks for the lesson anyway |
| 19:37.56 | leira | and a patchs dir under debian dir |
| 19:38.05 | kergoth | either write a custom do_patch that applies the .dpatches, or dont use the stock .diff.gz in SRC_URI |
| 19:38.14 | koen | OE happily ignores debian dirs :) |
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| 19:38.29 | l1nux | hi |
| 19:38.44 | koen | hrw: I was thinking about experimenting with .deb instead of ipkgs |
| 19:38.50 | koen | hey l1nux |
| 19:39.50 | leira | kergoth, sorry~ but my confusing is dose the patchs under dash-2.5.3/debian/patchs applied to the source, when bb run? |
| 19:39.55 | l1nux | please, howto use "openssl ./config" to build for arm ? (with cross toolchain) |
| 19:40.02 | l1nux | hi koen :) |
| 19:40.04 | hrw | koen: a bit more work will be needed - we have /var on tmpfs... |
| 19:40.11 | kergoth | leira: ? |
| 19:40.21 | kergoth | if there isnt a do_patch in the .bb that applies them, no. |
| 19:40.29 | kergoth | as koen just said, oe happily ignores debian/ directories |
| 19:41.16 | hrw | koen: Angstrom will have contrib feeds? |
| 19:41.36 | koen | hrw: I'm inclined to say yes |
| 19:41.42 | hrw | good |
| 19:41.46 | leira | if it just ignores debian/ dir, it just extract the rules files under the orig source dir, but not the patchs under debian/patchs |
| 19:41.56 | kergoth | leira: the best fix would be to change the patches in debian/patches into normal patches, put them into the package's FILEPATH, and add them all to SRC_URI |
| 19:42.03 | kergoth | what are you talking about? |
| 19:42.23 | kergoth | oe unpacks and applies the patches listed in SRC_URI. tahts it. |
| 19:43.11 | koen | http://blogs.gnome.org/view/iain/2006/03/16/1 |
| 19:43.36 | leira | kergoth, yes, it dose~ i am new to oe, and just reading the bb files of oe~ i just read the dash package, |
| 19:44.15 | koen | showing linux-openzaurus-<someversion>.bb to an audience is quite funny |
| 19:44.23 | kergoth | once again, if the debian/patches/* arent listed in src_uri or explicitly applied in do_patch, then they arent being applied right now, and it should be fixed |
| 19:44.36 | l1nux | with ./config --prefix=/usr/local/arm/3.4.1/arm-linux shared zlib arm threads |
| 19:44.43 | l1nux | Operating system: i686-whatever-linux2 |
| 19:44.43 | l1nux | Configuring for linux-elf |
| 19:44.43 | l1nux | target already defined - linux-elf (offending arg: arm) |
| 19:45.04 | l1nux | any idea ? |
| 19:45.37 | koen | l1nux: what .bb are you trying to build? |
| 19:46.23 | l1nux | koen, openssl-0.9.8a |
| 19:46.27 | leira | kergoth, thx, well, i understand now. so it is the wrong way i saw the dash_2.5.3.bb, and it just waiting for fix? |
| 19:47.24 | kergoth | yep |
| 19:47.42 | kergoth | lots of .bb files need more attention. if you want to take over maintainance of that one when you feel comfortable, feel free |
| 19:48.27 | leira | :) thx again~ |
| 19:48.51 | kergoth | np |
| 19:50.31 | leira | i am planning to add scim packages under oe using bb, and i want to get help from its debian packages, so i want to find a good example, which use debian package to build an oe ipkg. i found dash, and got the question above |
| 19:51.44 | hrw | leira: many packages get source from debian mirrors |
| 19:51.57 | hrw | but thats all which is debianish in them |
| 19:52.51 | kergoth | best bet on the patch side is to rip otu any patches which are actually against the code, and if you want to use them, pull them down into the oe repo and apply them that way |
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| 19:53.22 | zecke | l1nux: when did you decide to use OE? |
| 19:54.43 | leira | so, i just need extract the patchs/*, and put them into SRC_URI, right? |
| 19:55.11 | kergoth | thats the idea, yep. take the original debian diff.gz out of the SRC_URI |
| 19:55.31 | l1nux | zecke, i use other toolchain |
| 19:55.38 | Bompo | when is the Release for OZ 3.5.4? |
| 19:55.59 | koen | no idea, #openzaurus would know ;) |
| 19:56.03 | hrw | exactly |
| 19:56.13 | l1nux | zecke, from here ftp://ftp.handhelds.org/projects/toolchain/ |
| 19:56.14 | Bompo | :P ahhh ok |
| 19:56.17 | hrw | Bompo: here (on #oe) I can say that in future |
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| 19:56.46 | leira | oe lacks an IM engine for CJK, and scim is a good one, pdaXrom has the scim's ipkgs, but it don't use bb |
| 19:56.54 | l1nux | zecke, but need install some libs like zlib jpeg... |
| 19:57.13 | zecke | l1nux: you recognize that this channel is about the development of OE? |
| 19:58.10 | l1nux | yes |
| 19:59.07 | zecke | l1nux: your --prefix looks bogus... |
| 19:59.24 | zecke | l1nux: consult the autotools manuals |
| 20:00.32 | zecke | l1nux: also consult openembedded/classes to see what we do to cross compile apps |
| 20:00.41 | zecke | l1nux: alternatively use the debian arm packages |
| 20:01.43 | l1nux | zecke, without build libs ? (like openssl, jpeg...) |
| 20:01.57 | zecke | l1nux: ??? |
| 20:02.03 | koen | that's what OE is for |
| 20:02.07 | koen | either use OE or don't |
| 20:02.12 | zecke | l1nux: I do bitbake whatever |
| 20:02.23 | l1nux | no |
| 20:02.28 | l1nux | is BIG! |
| 20:02.36 | l1nux | :) |
| 20:02.49 | zecke | l1nux: BIG because of thousand of packages |
| 20:03.11 | reenoo | koen: would you please stop spreading FUD about familiar? thank you. |
| 20:03.50 | koen | reenoo: as long as I get no straight answers I only can had U and D |
| 20:03.52 | l1nux | i need minimal cross, to build my opie and qt apps :) |
| 20:03.52 | zecke | reenoo: l1nux has serve issues with the familiar toolchain, where can he report them? |
| 20:04.12 | hrw | l1nux: openzaurus or familiar? |
| 20:04.26 | l1nux | familiar |
| 20:04.39 | zecke | l1nux: yesterday in #opie you claimed you had openldap, samba etc build |
| 20:04.46 | hrw | then #handhelds.org would be better place? |
| 20:04.48 | zecke | l1nux: just build OpenSSL the same way... |
| 20:04.54 | l1nux | http://familiar.handhelds.org/snapshots/v0.8.3/familiar-v0.8.3-prerelease-snapshot-20051216-arm-oe-sdk-20051216.tar.bz2 |
| 20:05.01 | zecke | l1nux: and please report the toolchain issue you have |
| 20:05.03 | koen | hrw: no #familiar |
| 20:05.16 | hrw | koen: there is #familiar? |
| 20:05.20 | koen | sure |
| 20:05.33 | l1nux | http://pastebin.ca/45913 |
| 20:05.36 | hrw | koen: I always though that it is not for familiar distro |
| 20:05.45 | koen | some people think hh.org == familiar |
| 20:05.59 | zecke | l1nux: stop that please |
| 20:06.04 | koen | but I can't say that or people start screaming "FUD FUD FUD" |
| 20:06.20 | l1nux | zecke, sorry |
| 20:06.21 | zecke | l1nux: familiar != pastebin |
| 20:06.28 | hrw | koen: how many will think angstrom == l-t-g.org? :) |
| 20:06.36 | zecke | l1nux: you know that you need to add -shared |
| 20:06.46 | zecke | l1nux: and I asked you 10 times to report the issue to the familiar project |
| 20:07.32 | l1nux | zecke, with "-shared" build fine, but i get segfault in ipaq :/ |
| 20:07.50 | zecke | l1nux: well, report the issue to the familiar project! |
| 20:08.02 | zecke | l1nux: I'm not the familiar project, #oe is not the familiar project |
| 20:08.07 | l1nux | zecke, familiar is here #familiar ? |
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| 20:15.40 | zecke | anyone feels like proof reading my fetcher bla bla |
| 20:15.48 | koen | I can try |
| 20:16.02 | zecke | cd doc/usermanual; make html |
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| 20:20.51 | hrw | CoreDump|afk: ping? |
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| 21:21.08 | hrw | cu |
| 21:21.27 | Mardy | grrrrr |
| 21:21.46 | Mardy | I tryed to implement w100 accel for copyarea, |
| 21:22.03 | Mardy | but I'm unable to have the kernel use it |
| 21:22.15 | Mardy | it never gets called |
| 21:33.42 | Mardy | it's strange, it starts to get called only after the device has been paused/resumed |
| 21:34.03 | Mardy | anyway, it doesn't work :-) |
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| 22:12.46 | zecke | http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2006/fosdem/slides/finnish-inquisition.pdf <- interesting |
| 22:15.05 | koen | zecke: indeed |
| 22:15.52 | zecke | koen: did you know that? |
| 22:17.20 | koen | I know now ;) |
| 22:17.32 | koen | I suspect we can do a lot of giggling |
| 22:17.47 | zecke | koen: is it part of A*strom process already? |
| 22:17.54 | koen | not yet |
| 22:18.08 | CosmicPenguin | Thats a good idea |
| 22:18.22 | zecke | koen: easy upgrade from GPE to Opie should be one goal of A*strom |
| 22:18.35 | koen | zecke: you mean downgrade ;) |
| 22:19.13 | zecke | QtE < X11 (lexically) |
| 22:20.00 | zecke | man I should get things done |
| 22:20.04 | koen | doing automated testing is one of my goals |
| 22:20.14 | koen | (since I'm lazy and it saves me work) |
| 22:20.39 | zecke | mine as well, actually it is getting one of my research interests (slowly) |
| 22:20.55 | zecke | my PhD work will kill coverity :} |
| 22:21.08 | koen | I've been gathering arm board to have a nice way to test stuff |
| 22:21.13 | kergoth | pb_, pb__: what model of laptop do you have, again? |
| 22:21.27 | koen | and now the lcd on my h5550 broke I can use that |
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| 22:27.39 | CoreDump|afk | hrw|gone: pong ;) |
| 22:28.00 | CoreDump|home | hi |
| 22:30.06 | koen | hey CoreDump|home |
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| 23:17.43 | pb_ | kergoth: sharp mp50 |
| 23:18.51 | pb_ | er, actually, mp70g, but they're basically the same thing |
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| 23:31.43 | kergoth | shopping for one again. lacking a portable development environment is annoying at times |
| 23:31.48 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:31.57 | pb_ | heh, right |
| 23:33.01 | pb_ | fwiw, I bought mine from conics.net, but I think the mp50 is available through regular retail channels in the US. |
| 23:33.26 | pb_ | (sharp don't sell directly into the EU anymore, to my dismay at the time) |
| 23:35.48 | CosmicPenguin | crappy |
| 23:35.52 | CosmicPenguin | my opteron is dying |
| 23:36.02 | pb_ | doh |
| 23:36.28 | pb_ | that sucks. still, presumably you can just walk down the hall and pick up another opteron from the shelf. |
| 23:36.29 | CosmicPenguin | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:36.32 | CosmicPenguin | all over the hizzy |
| 23:38.52 | kergoth | ick |
| 23:43.41 | pb_ | hrm, I wonder why my damn jtag isn't working |
| 23:49.52 | kergoth | hmm, http://store.sharpsystems.com/product.asp?sku=2714807 looks pretty sharp |
| 23:50.47 | pb_ | yeah, that does look like it would rule |
| 23:50.56 | pb_ | the laptop, not CP's new kernel |
| 23:50.58 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:51.10 | kergoth | laptop looks like a good balance between weight and power. 3.8lbs, not bad |
| 23:51.16 | pb_ | right |
| 23:51.31 | pb_ | and it sounds like it has a good keyboard, which has got to be a bonus. |
| 23:51.42 | kergoth | nod. hmm. |
| 23:52.05 | kergoth | methinks i'll get it after i get out of this damn extended stay hotel adn into an apartment. hehe |
| 23:52.17 | pb_ | heh |
| 23:52.34 | pb_ | yeah, getting an apartment does sound like the first order of business |
| 23:52.58 | pb_ | how long have you been there for? must be a couple of months now, right? |
| 23:53.23 | kergoth | yeah. took a bit to get caught up on the finances, having been out of work for a few months |
| 23:53.36 | kergoth | a $675 a month car payment while unemployed is bad, mmk |
| 23:54.16 | pb_ | ah right. yeah, that doesn't sound like the kind of thing you need. |
| 23:54.21 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:54.33 | pb_ | what happened to your house up in MN; do you still have that? |
| 23:54.47 | kergoth | yeah, my dad's staying there right now, paying my mortgage :) |
| 23:54.59 | kergoth | cant go wrong there |
| 23:55.00 | pb_ | aha, cool |
| 23:55.07 | kergoth | how's work going? |
| 23:55.44 | pb_ | pretty good. looks like we're about to sign up some new customers, which is nice. and our existing customers seem fairly content, which is even better. |
| 23:55.53 | kergoth | nice |
| 23:57.18 | pb_ | how are you getting on with your cyborg warriors? |
| 23:58.10 | kergoth | hehe. pretty good. accomplishing things, dont despise the work, which is an improvemetn from teh last one. mostly userspace with a bit of kernel/system level stuff thrown in |
| 23:59.39 | pb_ | sounds good |
| 23:59.47 | pb_ | yeah, not despising your work has got to be a good start. |