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01:41.54 | JustinP | koen|sleep: indeed xserver-kdrive-0.0+cvs20060312-r11 |
01:42.32 | JustinP | koen|sleep: perhaps I should be using xserver-kdrive-0.0cvs20050207-r9, same as oz354x? |
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05:15.17 | emte | JustinP, i sent a response to the mailing list in regards to your sf problem and treke|home you need to cache dalies of gaim on oesources |
05:15.23 | emte | dailies* |
05:15.49 | treke|home | what;'s up? |
05:16.31 | emte | just adding daily cvs snapshots of gaim to your oesorces list |
05:16.36 | emte | sources* |
05:17.25 | treke|home | well if cvs is down, I can't do jack about it |
05:17.56 | emte | nah its not down |
05:18.04 | emte | its just flakey as always |
05:19.54 | emte | treke|home, but i did think of an idea for that time skew problem :) |
05:20.09 | treke|home | <PROTECTED> |
05:20.32 | emte | just make bitbake fall back to the latest version on oesources if it cant pickup the primary url |
05:21.01 | emte | sort of self assign aitself a date |
05:21.07 | emte | itself* |
05:21.38 | emte | would require altering the cvs class for bitbake tho |
05:21.49 | emte | and making the backup a special case |
05:22.25 | emte | but it would mean taht you could lean it back to once a day or week ... |
05:23.30 | JustinP | emte: that would be a large bitbake change I think....if you wanted the SRCDATE (and PR) to be correct and all |
05:23.46 | JustinP | and I haven't seen it be flakey, I've seen it be down |
05:23.56 | JustinP | I haven't gotten anything from it in 2 weeks or so |
05:24.13 | emte | i pull from it yesterday |
05:24.24 | JustinP | it *might* be that it's just 1/100 gets in or something, but that's down in my book |
05:48.41 | emte | JustinP, nah not a big change. PR wouldnt change and SRCDATE woudl just be a temporary override for something that is already a floating value |
05:49.37 | emte | would* |
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05:53.01 | emte | it would need to kick out a nice fat warning tho that it is not using the "current date" but is trying to continue with the build |
05:54.12 | emte | this would also allow the option for it to automatically fallback to the one you may have in yoru sources dir as a last resort |
05:54.55 | emte | its just a method to increase redundancy |
05:55.02 | JustinP | emte: PR *would* change for most (all) of them |
05:55.12 | emte | how? |
05:55.23 | emte | PR only referes to bb file changes |
05:55.29 | emte | not source |
05:55.55 | JustinP | sorry, not PR |
05:55.56 | JustinP | PV |
05:56.07 | JustinP | as in PV = "2.0+cvs-${SRCDATE}" |
05:56.51 | emte | it would only change in asmuch as SRCDATE would temorarily be reassigned |
05:57.04 | emte | temporarily* |
05:57.17 | JustinP | yes |
05:57.50 | JustinP | as long as the change happens to *anything* that SRCDATE touches that would be ok....but I don't think that's as trivial as you're making it out to be |
05:57.58 | JustinP | anyway |
05:58.10 | emte | it probably isnt |
05:58.18 | emte | its just a rough idea |
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06:05.36 | treke|home | I really think the simpler solution is just to have OE do all dates and times in GMT, so that everyone is on the same page |
06:06.07 | emte | it is as well |
06:06.53 | emte | about the only advantage of mine would be someoen who does/can only update once a day or every few days but is using current date |
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06:26.17 | gremlin[it] | hi all ... i had problem restarting with OE ... OE.db.oe for soem reason is corrupterd ... how i can skip the download of the starting OE.db and do all with monotone ? |
06:26.47 | emte | you do not really want to do taht ... |
06:27.00 | emte | altho its now daown to a few hours |
06:27.05 | emte | down* |
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06:27.37 | gremlin[it] | i have a slow connection ... and for me is worse download the bz2 than do a slow starting woth monotone :( |
06:27.44 | emte | http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/GettingStarted the monotone stuff is ~ 1/2 way down |
06:28.02 | emte | i feel bad for you then |
06:28.21 | emte | i cannot imagin how long it is going to take |
06:28.47 | gremlin[it] | emte i'm reading that .. and time ago it contain the option 1) downloaf OE.db.bz2 2) do a slow command with monotone ... but now the second choise isn't listed :( |
06:29.10 | emte | yeah i just noticed that |
06:29.17 | emte | sec i'll get you an old one |
06:30.14 | gremlin[it] | the OE.db.bz2 how often are changed ? i suppose what i download is corrupetd cause i download it in 3 pieces and few day between one and the other ... |
06:30.42 | emte | once or twice a day i belive |
06:31.20 | gremlin[it] | i have a 64K isdn ... :( :( :( ... for me is difficult to get also the bzipped database :( |
06:32.43 | emte | hmmm |
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06:34.05 | emte | i'll grab a copy and put it somewhere for you to get it ... |
06:35.24 | gremlin[it] | emte sendign by mail is a feasible choise ? |
06:35.53 | emte | i can if you really wish .... |
06:36.11 | gremlin[it] | what is more simple for u ;) |
06:37.01 | emte | i was just going to drop it on a webserver and you could use whatever client you wanted, but i can sned be mail if that is easier for you .... i just figured you would want a resumable protocol |
06:37.23 | gremlin[it] | right web is easy :) |
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06:40.48 | emte | http://www.labotomy.net/NONWEB/OE.db.bz2 |
06:41.02 | gremlin[it] | thanks !!!! |
06:42.03 | emte | np |
06:43.32 | emte | it should be decent for you, its a 100Mbit server |
06:43.54 | emte | so the bottleneck will only be your connection |
06:48.06 | gremlin[it] | it's easy that i'm the bottleneck :) |
06:51.04 | emte | :) |
06:53.27 | gremlin[it] | i hope to heva ADSL for the end of this year ... |
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07:07.22 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rb7b07828... 10/packages/gpe-today/gpe-today_0.11.bb: gpe-today: update to 0.11 |
07:08.00 | koen | good morning all |
07:08.08 | gremlin[it] | morning koen :) |
07:10.53 | koen | hey gremlin[it] |
07:13.49 | Genesis | yop |
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07:14.04 | koen | hey Genesis |
07:14.23 | Laibsch | Good morning everyone! |
07:16.52 | Laibsch | Just pulled a fresh copy of OE and started to build. I get a "ERROR: Error Method already seen: get_appweb_host in' appweb_1.2.0.bb' now in 'appweb_2.0.4.bb'" Is this something to worry about? Did I do anything wrong? |
07:16.57 | goxboxlive_ | Hi all. I have rsom problems again. It suddenly asks for libqpe-opie. No providers for libqpe-opie. How do i solve this? |
07:16.57 | koen | hey Laibsch |
07:17.12 | koen | Laibsch: use the stable branch of bitbake (see gettingstarted) |
07:17.18 | Laibsch | Moin Koen, I hope you are doing fine. |
07:19.10 | Laibsch | koen: you mean org.openembedded.oz354x instead of org.openembedded.dev, right? |
07:20.24 | koen | Laibsch: no, bitbake |
07:20.50 | koen | Laibsch: http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/GettingStarted#head-70027dcaf22e3c966ac6189541ebcbb9d3af5005 |
07:22.36 | goxboxlive_ | where to get libqpe? |
07:22.57 | Laibsch | I updated bitbake via cron, I thought it was up to date. |
07:23.08 | Laibsch | That anchor does not go anywhere. |
07:23.25 | Laibsch | I'm sure I'll find the necessary part on that page, though. |
07:23.30 | koen | svn co svn://svn.berlios.de/bitbake/branches/bitbake-1.4 bitbake |
07:23.38 | koen | that will give you the stable branch of bitbake |
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07:25.12 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rd82f1294... 10/conf/distro/angstrom-2006.9.conf: angstrom 2006.9: set CVSDATE to 20060424 |
07:25.39 | Laibsch | Can I do that while having bitbake "up-to-date" via "cd /usr/src/openembedded/bitbake && svn up" from cron or should I remove the directory first? |
07:26.20 | koen | no idea |
07:26.26 | koen | svn sucks |
07:28.44 | Laibsch | OK |
07:28.49 | Laibsch | Thank you for your help |
07:28.59 | Laibsch | It seems the dir needs to be moved. |
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07:30.22 | koen | mickey|tv: ERROR: dependency virtual/libqpe (for opie-keytabs) not satisfied |
07:33.09 | CoreDump|home | morning |
07:51.16 | hrw|work | morning |
07:51.55 | goxboxlive_ | Morning hrw. Can you help me with something here? |
07:52.05 | hrw|work | maybe |
07:52.35 | goxboxlive_ | I have runned in to some problems again |
07:53.35 | goxboxlive_ | it complains that : no provides depedency virtual/libqpe |
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07:53.45 | goxboxlive_ | I am trying to build a opie-image |
07:54.03 | hrw|work | goxboxlive_: .dev? |
07:54.11 | goxboxlive_ | It worked before i did a monotone update |
07:54.26 | hrw|work | goxboxlive_: recently libqpe -> libqpe1 was done |
07:55.20 | goxboxlive_ | ok, so in the local.conf i'll put in libqpe1-opie instead of libqpe-opie? |
07:55.40 | goxboxlive_ | yes i am useing the dev branch |
07:55.57 | hrw|work | goxboxlive_: dont know - I do not trace .dev now |
07:56.52 | goxboxlive_ | ok, thx anyway, i'll try. |
08:05.53 | XorA | morning |
08:06.46 | goxboxlive | morning. |
08:07.10 | goxboxlive | do u know what this means? : no provides depedency virtual/libqpe |
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08:09.45 | koen | hey zecke |
08:09.52 | hrw|work | hi zecke |
08:10.22 | goxboxlive | hi zecke :-) |
08:10.38 | zecke | hey |
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08:13.14 | goxboxlive | Zecke: Are you ready for som problem i hve now with building an Opie-image? It have worked great now until i did an monotone update. |
08:13.33 | zecke | goxboxlive: hehe, 'monotone update' the recurring theme |
08:13.34 | pb_ | hail zecke |
08:13.43 | zecke | goxboxlive: just ask, I'm back in a minute |
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08:15.32 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * radfabc9d... 10/packages/sip/ (4 files): sip4-native: upgrade to 4.4.2 |
08:15.36 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rd00d9789... 10/packages/ (3 files in 2 dirs): aliens, abuse: use sdl class |
08:15.40 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rb228e613... 10/packages/ (18 files in 15 dirs): bitbake files inheriting palmtop: don't override EXTRA_QMAKEVARS_POST, append to it |
08:15.44 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rd9f2b0cf... 10/packages/ (4 files in 4 dirs): bbfiles inheriting opie: don't override EXTRA_QMAKEVARS_POST|PRE, append to it |
08:17.01 | zecke | goxboxlive: not privately, please ;) |
08:17.16 | zecke | goxboxlive: who is depending on libqpe? |
08:17.47 | goxboxlive | opie-keytabs and opie-console |
08:19.38 | mickey|tv | right |
08:19.43 | mickey|tv | got some uncommited stuff in here |
08:19.46 | mickey|tv | wait a sec. |
08:19.49 | mickey|tv | good morning, btw. |
08:19.53 | hrw|work | hi mickey|tv |
08:19.57 | hrw|work | alsa 1.0.11 released |
08:20.10 | zecke | ;) |
08:21.21 | koen | good morning mickey|tv |
08:22.25 | mickey|tv | opie-keytabs commited, opie-console should depend on virtual/libqpe1 through palmtop.bbclass. |
08:24.01 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r26622fef... 10/packages/opie-keytabs/opie-keytabs.inc: opie-keytabs: remove bogus depends on libqpe, keytabs is just data files |
08:26.20 | goxboxlive | mickey: So in the local.conf i have to put in virtual/libqpe1="libqpe1-opie" ???? |
08:26.21 | zecke | goxboxlive: this is why one should not ask in private ;) |
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08:26.49 | goxboxlive | zecke: I c, so this time, it's realy a problem, not a nOOb problem :-) |
08:27.03 | mickey|tv | goxboxlive: openzaurus-unstable.conf contains a line similar to this |
08:27.14 | mickey|tv | so no need to repeat it, unless you're using another distro |
08:27.26 | mickey|tv | it would be virtual/libqpe1 = "libqpe-opie" btw. |
08:28.12 | RP | goxboxlive: You probably need to rebuild packages that you're already built that now have an incorrect dependency |
08:28.14 | goxboxlive | Ok, because in the local.conf file i have now i setup with virtual/libqpe = "libqpe-opie" |
08:28.40 | mickey|tv | i considered removing that thing altogether, because we really have only one provider for libqpe in OE... |
08:28.50 | RP | goxboxlive: Although this is a build time dependency, so ignore me :-/ |
08:29.16 | zecke | mickey|tv: hehe, well I know of people setting different virtual/libqpe |
08:29.19 | mickey|tv | the remaining stuff that depends on virtual/libqpe shouldn't be part of opie-image. it will be converted while I go over the individual bbfiles. |
08:29.41 | mickey|tv | zecke: *nod* i had that in mind when I left it like it is. |
08:29.45 | Laibsch | I just read up on some of the things going on recently. Specifically, I am just going through koen's Gulev 2005 PDF. I do not yet understand what Angstrom is. From the description it sounds a lot like a continuation of the current OE stuff that formed the basis for OZ. |
08:30.02 | mickey|tv | Laibsch: Angstrom is "just" another distribution. |
08:30.12 | CoreDump|home | did anyone look at the annoying mplayer bug where it picks up qpe stuff when Opie was built in the same tmpdir as GPE? |
08:30.27 | mickey|tv | Laibsch: made by the people responsible for former OZ, OpenSIMpad, and Familiar releases |
08:30.35 | mickey|tv | Laibsch: so the idea is to have one distro to rule them all |
08:30.46 | mickey|tv | Laibsch: but then again, have some constraints like 2.6-devices only |
08:30.54 | RP | goxboxlive: You need to change that entry in your local.conf. If using openxzaurus-unstable, you can remove it |
08:30.56 | mickey|tv | Laibsch: + more policies, more polishing, more user involvement and stuff. |
08:31.28 | RP | Laibsch: It also give the oppertunity to break a few things like the ABI change |
08:31.29 | Laibsch | So basically, I can move from the "old" OZ to the "new" Angstrom sometime in the future and it will not be much else than going from one OZ release to the other? I guess the focus is on removing duplicate effort? |
08:31.38 | mickey|tv | Laibsch: you got it. |
08:31.40 | Laibsch | RP: I am certainly in for that. |
08:31.53 | Laibsch | Thanks, guys |
08:32.02 | Laibsch | OE is always moving so fast |
08:32.06 | goxboxlive | RP: I am using familiar-unstable, i have also tried to remove it, but it claimed the about the same depedency. |
08:32.27 | Laibsch | You drop out a coupe of weeks and you have a whole bunch of stuff waiting for you to be learned. |
08:32.32 | Laibsch | couple |
08:32.53 | Laibsch | I read somewhere on the net OZ was dead and that of course got me worried. |
08:33.02 | Laibsch | Glad to find this is not "really" the case. |
08:35.30 | mickey|tv | not at all. everything that OZ was will be Angstrom and from the looks of it we will continue to have a 3.5.4.x branch for quite some time |
08:35.42 | mickey|tv | a real stable branch |
08:35.59 | pb_ | good morning mickey|tv |
08:36.02 | mickey|tv | hey pb_ |
08:36.05 | koen | and support for collie (and other 2.4 devices) |
08:36.11 | mickey|tv | right |
08:36.46 | pb_ | ah, good thinking |
08:36.51 | pb_ | bbiab |
08:36.58 | mickey|office | hehe |
08:37.20 | hrw|work | Laibsch: angstrom will be released sooner or later for 2.6 powered. OZ will stay for 2.4 powered (collie, poodle, tosa) but will be more and more less supported due to fact that tosa & poodle will move to 2.6 |
08:37.31 | mickey|office | if [ -e /foo/bar ]; then echo "it's there"; else echo "it's not there" |
08:37.34 | mickey|office | is that correct? |
08:37.41 | mickey|office | my shell skills suck |
08:38.14 | Laibsch | hrw|work: the 5500 will not move to 2.6? |
08:38.36 | hrw|work | Laibsch: not in 2006 |
08:38.42 | Laibsch | That would be sad. I have one of those and the current line of Z's I do not find too sexy. |
08:38.50 | Laibsch | hrw|work: I am patient. ;-) |
08:39.34 | hrw|work | Laibsch: few people has ideas what to do with sd support but all this need work and nearly noone want to work on collie support |
08:39.59 | Laibsch | Have been trying almost for years now to make it possible for me to switch from Sharp ROM to OZ. So far this was not possible because of the lack of a Japanese input method. |
08:40.27 | hrw|work | Laibsch: OZ 3.5.4 was probably last release for collie - newer ones will need SD/CF for storage or I will remove many things from collie rootfs |
08:41.02 | hrw|work | Laibsch: ashikashi added japanese support - we need to add this to OZ soon |
08:41.28 | Laibsch | Did he? I was in contact with him about that and there were still a few glitches |
08:41.33 | Laibsch | anthy does compile |
08:41.43 | hrw|work | Laibsch: qpobox works |
08:41.46 | Laibsch | But what frontend do you use? |
08:41.52 | Laibsch | Really? |
08:41.58 | Laibsch | That would be too awesome. |
08:42.06 | Laibsch | I am almost gonna cry. |
08:42.16 | Laibsch | Is qpobox in 3.5.4? |
08:42.25 | hrw|work | will be in may |
08:42.26 | Laibsch | Oh, no you already said it was not |
08:42.35 | Laibsch | Cool. |
08:42.45 | hrw|work | need to find time for it |
08:42.52 | hrw|work | first want to release 3.5.4.1 |
08:43.01 | Laibsch | But I could compile it from .dev (or even .oz354x)? |
08:43.49 | hrw|work | Laibsch: no - need to get it from bugtracker |
08:45.51 | zecke | Laibsch: did you consider maintaining a newsletter, e.g. to mention important changes |
08:46.06 | Laibsch | For OE? |
08:46.24 | zecke | Laibsch: yes |
08:46.42 | zecke | Laibsch: I started to recognize that our representation to the 'outside' needs a lot of work |
08:47.06 | Laibsch | What would qualify me for this? I certainly want to help out. But sometimes I find it hard myself to stay abreast. |
08:47.17 | Laibsch | Yes, like it did a year ago ;-) |
08:47.45 | Bernardo | good morning |
08:47.53 | CoreDump|home | hi Bernardo |
08:48.00 | Laibsch | I will consider and get back to you within the day. |
08:48.19 | hrw|work | zecke: OpenEmbedded Traffic? |
08:48.46 | zecke | hrw|work: more like KDE svn ;) |
08:49.04 | zecke | hrw|work: I think it is not too important to see the discussions that lead to something |
08:49.12 | zecke | hrw|work: but to have the impact or features mentioned |
08:49.13 | hrw|work | zecke: good idea |
08:49.53 | zecke | hrw|work: we just need a writer for that |
08:50.33 | RP | Maybe we should have something like the OZ site for OE where we announce new OE features? |
08:51.12 | RP | hrw|work: Poodle 2.6 support took a bit of a leap forward this weekend ;-) |
08:51.57 | hrw|work | RP: like it was expected ;) |
08:52.17 | AlexTe|work | hrw|work speaking of japanese support, can you enable codecs in libqte. It's required by qpobox and other apps. Works fine for me. |
08:52.41 | hrw|work | AlexTe|work: first want to release 3.5.4.1-rc1 |
08:52.55 | zecke | AlexTe|work: how much more RAM and flash is needed for that? |
08:53.39 | AlexTe|work | the modified libqte is just a couple of ko bigger, not sure about the ram |
08:53.50 | Laibsch | AlexTe|work: codecs? what do they have to do with Japanese? |
08:54.00 | zecke | Laibsch: Unicode Tables |
08:54.06 | zecke | Laibsch: and Char conversion |
08:54.16 | XorA | Xqt uses codecs as well |
08:54.38 | Laibsch | OK. So far I only know about codecs for music/video and other multimedia. |
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08:55.22 | XorA | hi lrg |
08:55.24 | zecke | Laibsch: hey liam |
08:55.26 | RP | hi Liam |
08:55.40 | zecke | lrg: you obviously forgot to attach a patch to the bitbake bug ;) |
08:55.46 | lrg | morning all |
08:55.58 | pb__ | mickey|bbl: you need a "; fi" on the end, but otherwise that's correct |
08:56.02 | pb__ | hi lrg |
08:56.09 | koen | hey lrg |
08:56.12 | lrg | zecke, doh - it must still be in my home dir ;) |
08:56.21 | koen | lrg: how was CELF? |
08:56.33 | zecke | lrg: I assumed that |
08:57.59 | lrg | koen, CELF was very good - it looks like there will be a lot more linux consumer devices around next year as some big TV manufacturers were using Linux in their new digital sets |
08:58.21 | koen | lrg: nice |
08:58.22 | zecke | lrg: directFB was mentioned a lot as well? |
08:58.41 | johnX | am I the only one who just thought of "x server on me TV"? |
08:59.00 | lrg | zecke, yep, the TV's all used directFB. Dennis Kropp was there doing a talk on DirectFB |
08:59.05 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/3.5.4.1-test/.rc1/!_split-to-feeds.sh.txt can be interesting for you |
08:59.18 | goxboxlive | So where there any solution to the qpe problem i had? Or do i have to wait for an update or something? |
08:59.50 | zecke | lrg: was he stoned? I think he stopped being stoned anyway |
08:59.58 | zecke | goxboxlive: libqpe? |
09:00.05 | zecke | goxboxlive: or which qpe problem? |
09:00.19 | goxboxlive | yes of course, sorry, libqpe |
09:00.30 | lrg | zecke, no, although he seemed younger than I imagined. |
09:00.54 | zecke | goxboxlive: mickeyl pushed the offender, do another mtn update and see what breaks now |
09:00.55 | lrg | zecke, OE got mentioned a lot as well. |
09:01.06 | hrw|work | RP: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=883#c5 - can you look? |
09:01.13 | zecke | damn I need to give more talks (any talk) |
09:01.24 | goxboxlive | zecke: thx |
09:01.26 | lrg | ~seen do13 |
09:01.31 | ibot | do13 is currently on #oe (1d 23h 33m 48s), last said: 'Hey RP'. |
09:06.13 | RP | hrw|work: I don't know whether we install usbmouse by default or not but it is compiled by the kernel fine |
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09:12.49 | goxboxlive | Zecke: I got way logner, but still some problems: Look at this |
09:13.15 | goxboxlive | Nothing provide depedency dcopidl-native |
09:13.45 | goxboxlive | It's konqueror-embedded that has no buildable provider. |
09:15.01 | hrw|work | RP: user told me that usbmouse module exist but no mousedev module and whole mouse subsystem is missing |
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09:15.44 | RP | hrw|work: See my update to that bug - mousedev isn't being compiled. I'm not sure if that is or isn't a problem though |
09:16.46 | RP | hrw|work: I'll enabled mousedev in the defconfigs... |
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09:18.21 | zecke | goxboxlive: install dcopidl from your distribution |
09:18.36 | zecke | goxboxlive: and ASSUME_PROVIDED += "dcopidl-native" in your local.conf |
09:19.56 | goxboxlive | zecke: it's not in the debian repo, only dcopdl2java. I'll try to install that one |
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09:24.00 | aquadran | goxboxlive: i just found dcopidl is in kdelibs4-dev in debian |
09:24.26 | goxboxlive | aquadran thx |
09:24.40 | greentux | lrg: morning. |
09:24.50 | greentux | lrg: borzoi+ recieved? |
09:26.23 | lrg | greentux, yes thanks. it came during CELF, i'm now building a new image for it |
09:26.59 | greentux | lrg: ok fine |
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09:39.33 | hrw|work | what do you guys think about adding new entry to 'Component' list in bugzilla? Now we have 'Build', 'Distributions' - I think that 'New recipe' (and few similar) could be nice |
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09:49.04 | hrw|work | ~curse RMK mail system |
09:49.06 | ibot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, RMK mail system ! |
09:49.16 | hrw|work | > Ah, haven't seen many of your emails over the last three months - seems |
09:49.17 | hrw|work | > they ended up in one of my junk mailboxes which are rarely looked at. |
09:50.30 | CoreDump|home | heh |
09:51.24 | hrw|work | ~hail 'for machine in akita spitz c7x0;do SOMETHING;done' |
09:51.25 | ibot | ACTION bows down to 'for machine in akita spitz c7x0;do SOMETHING;done' and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
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09:55.19 | mithro | zecke: ping! |
09:56.10 | zecke | mithro: pong |
09:58.03 | alan|home | hello all |
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10:19.04 | mickey|bbl | you need to ASSUME_PROVIDED that |
10:19.29 | mickey|bbl | ups... too late |
10:20.22 | zecke | mithro: hey |
10:20.35 | mithro | zecke: yes :P |
10:21.48 | zecke | mithro: hey, mickeyl is back |
10:21.53 | zecke | mickeyl: hey |
10:22.04 | mithro | zecke: he-he lousy tab complete :P |
10:22.33 | zecke | mithro: yes, irssi sucks |
10:24.06 | zecke | mickeyl: python coverage tools that integrate with unittest (jeapardy like question) |
10:25.30 | mickeyl | zecke: Question to that answer: what are you looking into? |
10:25.52 | mickeyl | Answer to the Jeopardy-Question: I have no idea, never looked into testing at all yet |
10:26.33 | pb__ | right, testing is overrated |
10:27.02 | mickeyl | heh |
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10:27.21 | zecke | pb__: right |
10:33.41 | Laibsch | Is there no bb file for compiling qpobox? -> bug 843 |
10:35.51 | mickeyl | the necessary qte changes are not even in |
10:35.59 | mickeyl | one step after another... |
10:37.20 | RP | hrw|work: Most of my emails to rmk end up there as well |
10:41.40 | mithro | mickeyl / RP: i've done some more work on a COW classes for zecke :P |
10:42.00 | mickeyl | coolness! |
10:42.05 | mickeyl | give us benchmarks! |
10:42.06 | mickeyl | :) |
10:42.14 | zecke | cow = { 'cow' : True } |
10:42.22 | zecke | 'cow' in cow |
10:44.22 | hrw|work | RP: got new patch to test with broken cards |
10:45.27 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rbf0b47a6... 10/packages/freedroid/ (3 files in 2 dirs): freedroid: decouple from opie via sdl.bbclass |
10:45.56 | koen | berlios seem to be alive again |
10:46.02 | RP | mithro: Excellent - I can't wait to see the patches :) |
10:46.31 | RP | hrw|work: From the kernel developers or did you write this one? |
10:46.35 | hrw|work | RP: rmk |
10:47.03 | RP | hrw|work: Ah, I thought you meant broken PCMCIA cards :) |
10:47.13 | hrw|work | RP: ;) |
10:47.22 | RP | hrw|work: Does this replace his last one or is it something extra? |
10:47.57 | mithro | the COW stuff should be usable in other places (then bitbake) too... |
10:47.59 | hrw|work | extra to test card |
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10:52.49 | hrw|work | NOTE: package linux-openzaurus-2.6.16-r9: task do_patch: completed |
10:52.50 | hrw|work | uf |
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11:23.11 | XorA | ~lart watchguard firebox |
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11:38.19 | goxboxlive | Have anyone a clue what this might be: ? http://pastebin.com/678598 |
11:40.13 | zecke | goxboxlive: hmm, a missing -lts |
11:40.59 | zecke | goxboxlive: I have not built the latest konqueror myself |
11:41.57 | goxboxlive | zecke: Is that something can fix here, or is there something you guys have to update. I'll build it for a couple of days ago, but after the update it just refuse. |
11:42.14 | zecke | goxboxlive: it could be a new version |
11:42.28 | zecke | goxboxlive: it is a brand new and experimental konqueror version, so new I have not built it myself |
11:42.44 | zecke | goxboxlive: a quick hack would be adding -lts |
11:44.21 | goxboxlive | zecke: Ok, but where do i add -lts :-/ |
11:44.30 | hrw|work | EXTRA_LDFLAGS? |
11:58.30 | mickeyl | i recommend reading the bbfile |
11:58.36 | mickeyl | it has detailed comments on how to build a static konq |
11:58.40 | mickeyl | like |
11:58.43 | mickeyl | # uncomment that to foo |
11:58.44 | mickeyl | etc. |
12:01.33 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r9940a00b... 10/packages/abuse/abuse_0.7.0.bb: abuse: remove bogus depends, they come in via sdl class now |
12:01.38 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * re7bd7365... 10/packages/vectoroids/vectoroids_1.1.0.bb: vectoroids: decouple from opie using sdl.bbclass |
12:01.42 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r784fefba... 10/classes/sdl.bbclass: sdl.bbclass: fix names |
12:02.52 | pb__ | very good |
12:03.42 | mickeyl | :) this is sooo much cleaner now |
12:03.58 | mickeyl | the opie packages just contain a link to the real binary and the launcher integration bits |
12:04.04 | pb__ | excellent |
12:04.12 | pb__ | that does sound like a big improvement |
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12:09.21 | zecke | mickeyl: I'm still in favor of removing X and GPE to avoid this mess :} |
12:09.41 | zecke | mickeyl: but your solutions looks nice as well |
12:10.37 | hrw|work | zecke: and remove opie from angstrom |
12:11.07 | zecke | hrw|work: I want the same t-shirt as rml had for devfs |
12:11.24 | zecke | hrw|work: 'Opie, GPE, X': ------------------------------------- ;) |
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12:11.41 | zecke | just kidding, well this t-shirt was nice |
12:12.37 | zecke | pb__: I will apply at NetBSD this year, will look into dogtail, GPE and OE anyway |
12:12.55 | zecke | RP: can matchbox use atk as well? |
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12:16.33 | RP | zecke: I'm not 100% sure. Perhaps not at the moment |
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12:18.03 | gremlin[it] | ping emte |
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12:30.45 | zecke | koen: did you ever play with debtags? |
12:31.17 | koen | zecke: I very rarely build debian packages |
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12:31.30 | koen | zecke: but it would be nice if OE supported debtag and .debs :) |
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12:32.42 | mickeyl | ok, enough OE work for today |
12:32.49 | mickeyl | cu |
12:32.52 | koen | cu mickeyl |
12:32.53 | hrw|work | cu mickeyl |
12:32.55 | mickeyl | s/wents/wanders/ |
12:33.00 | zecke | mickeyl: yes! |
12:34.36 | pb__ | zecke: righto |
12:34.49 | Laibsch | "nice monotone --db=./oe.db pull $MONOTONE_SERVER org.openembedded.{dev,org.openembedded.oz354x};monotone --db=./oe.db checkout --branch=org.openembedded.oz354x" works fine for the first part but fails with the checkout:"monotone: misuse: branch 'org.openembedded.oz354x' is empty" |
12:35.26 | koen | org.openembedded.{dev,org.openembedded.oz354x} -> org.openembedded.{dev,oz354x} |
12:36.10 | greentux | ~seen koen |
12:36.28 | ibot | koen is currently on #gpe (2d 3h 17m 37s) #oe (2d 3h 17m 37s). Has said a total of 225 messages. Is idling for 1m 2s, last said: 'org.openembedded.{dev,org.openembedded.oz354x} -> org.openembedded.{dev,oz354x}'. |
12:36.28 | Laibsch | koen: of courseQ |
12:36.28 | Laibsch | koen: of course! |
12:36.50 | greentux | koen: hi |
12:37.03 | Laibsch | All those brackets, I need a pair of glasses ;-) |
12:37.06 | greentux | koen: pse read http://www.linux-kongress.org/2006/cfp.html perhaps you can do a talk about oe again |
12:37.29 | koen | hey greentux |
12:37.48 | zecke | greentux: thanks for the link |
12:38.06 | zecke | mickeyl: do we want to give an OE tutorial there? |
12:38.06 | greentux | zecke: hi, a talk for you too? :) |
12:38.53 | koen | gah, during first week of college |
12:39.57 | greentux | ok, should zecke do the oe talk. |
12:41.52 | koen | zecke: have you looked at guitone? |
12:42.35 | zecke | koen: college? |
12:42.47 | zecke | no (guitone) |
12:42.48 | koen | http://thomaskeller.biz/guitone/ |
12:43.03 | koen | zecke: the new year starts at 20060902 |
12:43.24 | zecke | screenshots? |
12:43.48 | zecke | ~lart fink |
12:43.53 | koen | haven't seen any |
12:46.50 | koen | RP: another 1.4MB of flash saved :) |
12:46.54 | koen | (http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=319393) |
12:47.29 | koen | although I don't think people are building the 'real' eds with OE |
12:48.37 | CIA-9 | 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * re0d45857... 10/packages/ixp425-eth/ixp400-eth_1.5.bb: ixp425-eth: Removed the maclist patch, as insertion of the MAC address is now done through a netdev event. |
12:51.40 | zecke | koen: wow one can start to use the EDS on Phones |
12:52.15 | zecke | koen: together with tinyMAIL, well a Gtk+ only platform is getting more attractive day by day |
12:53.04 | koen | I know |
12:53.14 | zecke | koen: hehe |
12:59.30 | koen | zecke: http://thomaskeller.biz/work/thesis/thesis_final.pdf |
13:00.31 | zecke | RMS the origin of OpenSource :} |
13:00.52 | koen | JustinP: the gcc-package patch is in, so people with gcc4.x can build e stuff again in .dev |
13:01.32 | Laibsch | How can bug 623 (package anthy) make it into openembedded? |
13:01.44 | Laibsch | http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=623 |
13:02.03 | Laibsch | Can anybody please upload? |
13:02.13 | zecke | Laibsch: come to our BugDay ;) |
13:02.37 | Laibsch | Where is it? |
13:02.50 | koen | Laibsch: see comment #2 |
13:02.52 | Laibsch | I'd certainly like to meet you guys |
13:02.54 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rb503225b... 10/packages/gcc/gcc-package.inc: gcc-package: apply patch form #851 to 'fix' building of gcc-4.x |
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13:03.44 | hrw|work | Laibsch: Bug Squashing Party this Friday/Saturday here on #oe |
13:03.58 | Laibsch | Sounds like fun |
13:04.07 | Laibsch | I will try and joing you guys. |
13:04.11 | Laibsch | Is this weekly? |
13:04.18 | Laibsch | I love bug squashing! |
13:04.25 | *** topic/#oe by hrw|work -> OpenEmbedded Developer Lounge | OE and bitbake were made to match, keep them both up to date | BitBake 1.4.0 has been released - only use HEAD if you are developing it | Bug Squashing Party in 2006.04.28-29 |
13:05.38 | RP | koen: Good news on EDS :). Ross should be happy! |
13:06.20 | koen | RP: I think he is, I got the news form planet.closedfist.co.uk :) |
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13:09.41 | hrw|work | koen: another planet added into rss... |
13:09.59 | RP | koen: I should really read that :) |
13:10.41 | zecke | RP: no kidding ;) |
13:18.09 | goxboxlive | can someone here try to bulid konqueror-embedded. I have tried with the -lts in the .bb file, but it still refuse to compile.. |
13:19.06 | zecke | koen: http://www.denx.de/wiki/Training/WebHome#CourseInternals |
13:19.27 | zecke | koen: I think something evil, what do you think? |
13:19.40 | zecke | goxboxlive: pastebin it please, I can not build from here |
13:20.20 | goxboxlive | ok hold on. |
13:22.07 | goxboxlive | zecke: It might take a couple of minutes, because i am compiling over vnc, so i have to swithc over to ssh :-) |
13:22.26 | koen | zecke: looks like a course in JTAG |
13:22.59 | zecke | goxboxlive: hehe |
13:23.18 | zecke | goxboxlive: I'm extremely firewalled here... I should start to use openvpn to somehwere |
13:30.55 | koen | speaking of tunnels... |
13:31.26 | goxboxlive | zecke: Ok, here is the output ( it's bitbaked with the -lts flagg in konq--.bb file : http://pastebin.com/678764 |
13:32.35 | emte | gremlin[it], hey, you done dlding the image or you needed something else? |
13:32.52 | gremlin[it] | i finish :) |
13:32.55 | gremlin[it] | thanks emte :) |
13:33.17 | zecke | goxboxlive: well, looks like the same error to me? |
13:33.51 | emte | okay, and it works again for you? |
13:34.01 | goxboxlive | zecke: Yes it is the same error as with not using the -lts flag |
13:34.14 | zecke | goxboxlive: 'flag' |
13:34.29 | zecke | goxboxlive: yes your like to the bb file was ignored (it seems) |
13:35.18 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r75ba732a... 10/packages/poptop/poptop_1.3.0.bb: poptop: add 1.3.0, courtesy Stelios Koroneos |
13:35.35 | goxboxlive | zecke: EXTRAFLAGS = "-lts" |
13:37.11 | lrg | I'm looking for the best way to build for multiple machines (borzoi, tosa and mainstone in my case) using a single oe repository. I'll obviously need a local.conf for each machine, however is there any other things that must be seperated e.g. any build directories |
13:37.20 | zecke | goxboxlive: that looks wrong anyway ;) |
13:37.34 | zecke | goxboxlive: as a work around. go to that Makefile |
13:37.42 | zecke | goxboxlive: and add a -lts manually |
13:38.32 | goxboxlive | zecke: But the option is there form the start. I just uncomment it. |
13:38.57 | zecke | goxboxlive: it is 'wrong' nevertheless |
13:39.17 | zecke | goxboxlive: one can't know that QtE is using tslib, one should not assume it |
13:39.43 | goxboxlive | ok, so i just put in -lts with no qoutes no other text? Anywhere in the ..bb file? |
13:39.53 | Laibsch | I have entered the necessary information in bug 623 (http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=623) |
13:40.12 | Laibsch | Can anthy be included in OE now? ;-) |
13:40.31 | Laibsch | Not that it would be immediately usable in its current form, but still. |
13:43.44 | hrw|work | ljp: use multimachine.inc |
13:43.46 | zecke | Laibsch: what is broken with it? |
13:44.06 | lrg | hrw|work thanks |
13:44.16 | Laibsch | It is not broken. |
13:44.35 | Laibsch | But for it to be a complete input method, it would need a front end. |
13:44.42 | Laibsch | Like imkit-anthy. |
13:45.07 | Laibsch | There are others, too. I just lack the knowledge to hack the bb file together quickly. |
13:47.36 | lrg | hrw|work: I assume i can include this in my local.conf for each machine and this will give me a seperate /stamps /work etc ? |
13:47.38 | zecke | Laibsch: well, consider updating the patch as well |
13:47.42 | koen | in 2 days we can celebrate '300 days of monotone' |
13:47.58 | zecke | koen: oh that young? |
13:47.59 | koen | lrg: yes |
13:48.17 | koen | lrg: have a look at http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/file.psp?id=7ef65513082d92ce2d14013905d33943baee95cb&path=contrib/buildscripts/openzaurus/build-oz.sh |
13:48.23 | lrg | koen, cool this is easier than I tought :) |
13:48.24 | Laibsch | zecke: you mean to the latest release of anthy? |
13:48.31 | lrg | thought |
13:48.50 | zecke | Laibsch: no, just entering random information isn't helping |
13:49.04 | zecke | Laibsch: when I add a file from the patch tracker, I only want to add the patch |
13:49.16 | zecke | Laibsch: I do not want to edit the files myself |
13:49.20 | koen | lrg: that script pokes the necessary bits in to conf/auto.conf, so you can use 1 local.conf for all machines |
13:49.21 | Laibsch | OK, I understand. |
13:49.25 | Laibsch | I will attach. |
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13:49.53 | koen | lrg: openzaurus uses multimachine by default now |
13:50.30 | lrg | koen, thanks |
13:50.46 | zecke | Laibsch: as this looks to be japanese (in the patch) mentioning the encoding (e.g. UTF8) would help a lot as well |
13:51.15 | Laibsch | OK, anything else? |
13:51.33 | Laibsch | Let me know and I will try and update it. |
13:52.03 | hrw|work | and if it need unicode encoding then let it be utf instead of any japanese ones |
13:54.50 | koen | and suddenly we have 50% less critical bugs in OE |
13:55.08 | koen | and some more in OZ ;) |
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13:59.00 | chouimat | morning |
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14:17.51 | hrw|work | ~curse ipkg |
14:17.52 | ibot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, ipkg ! |
14:18.03 | hrw|work | arch akita 46 |
14:18.20 | hrw|work | "lists_dir ext /home/hrw/devel/build/3541/tmp/work/armv5te-linux/opie-image-1.0-r19/temp/lists/" does not mean absolute path for ipkg ;( |
14:19.16 | koen | hrw|work: id rmk's patch work? |
14:19.20 | koen | did* |
14:19.35 | hrw|work | cr |
14:19.43 | hrw|work | koen: no zaurus here today |
14:21.33 | hrw|work | koen: and his patch is to get more debug infos not for getting work |
14:22.00 | koen | I see |
14:24.32 | chouimat | "Biology is the only science in which multiplication means the same |
14:24.32 | chouimat | thing as division." |
14:26.45 | koen | zecke: 17" macbook pro: http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/ |
14:30.28 | zecke | koen: I want 12" ;) |
14:30.37 | koen | zecke: me too |
14:30.46 | zecke | koen: or is a slave for carrying included? |
14:30.58 | zecke | e.g. if they give me a segway for free, I might get that 17" thing |
14:31.22 | koen | wtf? |
14:31.30 | zecke | ? |
14:31.31 | koen | the 17" is E200 cheaper as teh 15" |
14:31.55 | koen | 2.16GHz/100GB - 7200RPM/1GB ram |
14:32.19 | koen | 17": 3012,81, 15": 3224,40 |
14:32.58 | koen | (with applecare) |
14:33.53 | koen | let's hope the 12" is E2500 cheaper as the 17" |
14:34.05 | zecke | <PROTECTED> |
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14:42.38 | Laibsch | I am new to patching. |
14:43.59 | Laibsch | Is it really necessary to have both old and new directories inside the same directory to create a good patch? That leads to clutter. I would rather keep all changes in a completely separate directory. |
14:44.42 | zecke | use quilt ;) |
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14:45.12 | hrw|work | Laibsch: do like you like. but I suggest quilt |
14:45.26 | Laibsch | quilt? |
14:45.34 | Laibsch | I thought I needed to use diff? |
14:46.12 | hrw|work | quilt is a tool to manage patches/whole patchsets etc |
14:46.49 | hrw|work | quilt new my-first.patch;quilt edit file-to-change;quilt refresh == patches/my-first.patch which contain changes from file-to-change |
14:47.59 | zecke | Laibsch: you can use diff directly |
14:50.56 | Laibsch | Directly? To create a patch set for two directories? Like "LC_ALL=C TZ=UTC0 diff -Naur $PATH2OLDDIR $PATH2NEWDIR"? Won't that create problems if you include the full path? The man page of patch advises agains this which is why I asked. |
14:51.29 | JustinP | koen: thanks |
14:52.04 | hrw|work | Laibsch: your way of using diff is OK |
14:55.50 | hrw|work | how big is / on c700/c750? |
14:55.59 | Laibsch | hrw|work: Maybe I will stay with diff for now. But quilt does sound attractive. |
14:56.10 | Laibsch | I will test it out briefly. |
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14:58.06 | do13 | Hi all |
14:58.36 | goxboxlive | What does this mean: | /usr/src/universal/cross/lib/gcc/arm-linux/3.4.4/../../../../arm-linux/bin/ld: cannot find -lqte ?? How can i get lqte support? |
14:59.13 | koen | hey do13 |
14:59.15 | lrg | hey Dirk |
14:59.34 | do13 | hey koen, lrg |
14:59.37 | lrg | do13: did you see my 2nd email ? |
15:00.01 | zecke | goxboxlive: giving it a -L line with the path added |
15:00.02 | do13 | lrg: Yeah, this sounds better:) |
15:00.13 | lrg | do13, cool |
15:01.02 | hrw|work | do13: how big is / on tosa? |
15:03.08 | Laibsch | hrw|work: I agree quilt is awesome and thanks to your help quite easy to use. |
15:03.26 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r60faa014... 10/classes/kernel.bbclass: kernel.bbclass: added workaround for missing module dependency: kernel-module-ieee80211-crypt += 'kernel-module-arc4' to get WEP working |
15:03.30 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r8eb25908... 10/classes/rootfs_ipk.bbclass: rootfs_ipk.bbclass: use tmp/lists for keeping ipkg packages lists and remove them after package install |
15:03.34 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r703c4b92... 10/conf/machine/zaurus-clamshell-2.6.conf: zaurus-clamshell: moved ir-usb module to usbhost modules |
15:04.38 | do13 | hrw|work: 28 meg |
15:04.43 | hrw|work | can someone with c7x0 do one test for me? I have image to flash |
15:04.46 | hrw|work | do13: thx |
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15:16.01 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rf0f7c074... 10/conf/distro/angstrom-2006.9.conf: angstrom: s/CVSDATE/SRCDATE/ |
15:18.48 | goxboxlive | zecke: i didnt understand that with -L . Look at this http://pastebin.com/679022 Can you explain more in detail what i should do, andwith wich file? |
15:19.56 | hrw|work | http://oe.pastebin.com/679028 |
15:20.23 | zecke | goxboxlive: those are 'linker' flags |
15:20.51 | zecke | goxboxlive: -l links to a library |
15:21.03 | zecke | goxboxlive: -L says where to look for that lib |
15:21.55 | koen | hrw|work: yes, that's the correct way to generate summed images for c7x0 |
15:21.58 | koen | ~lart sharp |
15:23.04 | hrw|work | koen: akita use header too or not? (I do not remember) |
15:24.12 | Laibsch | Might be a bit off-topic. But I have two or three files left-over from previous OE build which completely refuse to be rm'ed:"# rm -Rf /usr/src/openembedded/work.old/ |
15:24.12 | Laibsch | rm: cannot remove `/usr/src/openembedded/work.old//native-linux/libtool-native-1.5.10-r3/libtool-1.5.10/tests/tagdemo-shared.test': Operation not permitted" How can that be? |
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15:25.55 | CosmicPenguin | sounds like the permissions are bad |
15:26.16 | Laibsch | But I a root! |
15:26.22 | Laibsch | But I am root! |
15:26.45 | CosmicPenguin | your point being> |
15:26.46 | CosmicPenguin | ? |
15:26.51 | hrw|work | Laibsch: filesystem fscked? |
15:27.42 | Laibsch | Yes. But I will do that again next time. |
15:28.00 | Laibsch | CosmicPenguin: As root I should be able to delete any file. |
15:28.04 | zecke | cya |
15:28.29 | koen | Laibsch: no, 'chattr +i <foo>' removes that privilege |
15:28.41 | hrw|work | or fscked filesystem |
15:29.13 | Laibsch | koen: Does any of the OE stuff ever do that? |
15:29.36 | hrw|work | Laibsch: OE not, packages makefiles can... |
15:30.53 | Laibsch | It seems like koen's hint was right. After chattr -i I was able to delete that sucker. Is that really necessary or is it bug to use chattr +i with OE? |
15:31.26 | CosmicPenguin | what do you think? |
15:31.41 | Laibsch | I would think it is a bug. |
15:32.03 | Laibsch | But then again I do not know what it might be needed for. |
15:32.15 | Laibsch | I do not know about chattr. Have not used it so far. |
15:32.43 | hrw|work | cu |
15:32.57 | CosmicPenguin | So if you have never had reason to use it to build anything before, then you must assume that it was probably a mistake to require it this time |
15:33.11 | koen | Laibsch: I use chattr on my resolv.conf to avoid dhclient overwriting it |
15:33.35 | hrw|gone | koen: configure dhclient to not update dns then ;) |
15:33.51 | koen | too much trouble |
15:33.56 | CosmicPenguin | use unionfs and mount a ramfs over it |
15:33.57 | CosmicPenguin | :) |
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15:34.04 | koen | and it saves me from idiots with root as well |
15:34.07 | koen | i.e. me |
15:37.11 | Cockroach- | evening |
15:38.52 | Laibsch | OK, bug 903 it is. |
15:41.14 | Cockroach- | ...I'll ask here as well. What is the monotone branch for familiar 0.8.4? still oz354fam083? |
15:42.16 | pb__ | yes |
15:42.28 | Cockroach- | allright, just had to make sure. :) |
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16:06.22 | CIA-9 | 03florian 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r9196568e... 10/packages/meta/gpe-image.bb: gpe-image: Replace sylpheed with vlc-gpe which is big as well but is supposed to work on QVGA PDAs in contrast to Sylpheed. |
16:07.05 | Laibsch | How can I have quilt apply its patches to a subdirectory instead of the working directory? |
16:07.29 | Laibsch | I guess I want the opposite of the strip command. |
16:09.35 | CIA-9 | 03florian 07org.oe.dev * rfd21124c... 10/packages/gnome/ (gnome-vfs-dbus/werror_compile.patch gnome-vfs-dbus_svn.bb): gnome-vfs-dbus: Make compile again, add missing patch. |
16:09.39 | CIA-9 | 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r54294995... 10/packages/libeventdb/libeventdb_cvs.bb: libeventdb: Add cvs version. |
16:09.43 | CIA-9 | 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r5abdf304... 10/packages/gpe-calendar/gpe-calendar_cvs.bb: gpe-calendar: Update cvs bb version. |
16:09.48 | CIA-9 | 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r095485c1... 10/packages/gpe-filemanager/gpe-filemanager_0.25.bb: gpe-filemanager: Adjust recommended vfs plugins. |
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17:10.29 | Laibsch | zecke: Coming back to bug 623 and encoding. Should I just mention the enconding of the files in the bug report? Or should I include it somehow in the diff (if so, how?)? |
17:10.52 | Laibsch | Oh, zecke seems to be gone. Anyone know the answer? |
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18:04.49 | cedric__ | ~praise RP for the charging code on the poodle!! |
18:04.50 | ibot | All hail RP for the charging code on the poodle!!! |
18:10.11 | cedric__ | ~praise RP for suspend/resume on the poodle!! |
18:10.13 | ibot | All hail RP for suspend/resume on the poodle!!! |
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18:13.34 | cedric__ | I'm getting this on .dev --> http://pastebin.com/679401 |
18:14.27 | cedric__ | can't find gtk-webcore 20060212 from oesources and sf cvs is down... |
18:15.26 | JustinP | cedric__: yep, pretty much.... |
18:16.06 | koen | cedric__: check http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/sources/ |
18:16.16 | koen | that contains some cvs stuff |
18:16.19 | JustinP | koen: you beat me, I was going to point him there ;-) |
18:16.48 | koen | I'm not sure if it's in there, though |
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18:31.50 | zecke | wow my physics 'teacher' is a jedi |
18:33.27 | zecke | his lsaer-sable moving made me feel dizzy |
18:33.46 | koen | can he do handwaving as well? |
18:33.51 | koen | *waves hand* |
18:33.55 | koen | "you will fail this course" |
18:34.22 | koen | I wish teachers would stop doing that |
18:34.26 | zecke | koen: no, worst lecturer I have been to |
18:34.46 | zecke | koen: where is the point in pointin with a laser pointer to a clock/watch |
18:35.00 | zecke | koen: where is the point is making a circle (within a second) around a box on his slides |
18:35.07 | zecke | he should fucking use uncover for that |
18:38.00 | koen | heh |
18:38.26 | zecke | koen: I'm about to write him :} |
18:38.46 | zecke | koen: I have been to bad and talk talks, but this one made me feel bad |
18:39.12 | koen | I just walk out of bad talks |
18:39.23 | koen | during the coffee break |
18:39.36 | zecke | koen: yeah, it was good that I was there |
18:39.40 | koen | if they are really bad I don't even wait for those |
18:39.47 | zecke | koen: my 'tutorium' was cancelled :} |
18:40.55 | koen | we have an e-learning system for those announcements |
18:41.14 | koen | which I always forget to check |
18:43.03 | koen | ah, TI mexico now has a board running OE built packages :) |
18:55.51 | koen | hey mreimer |
18:56.07 | mreimer | hey koen |
18:56.28 | mreimer | koen: how's angstrom treating you? |
18:59.06 | koen | mreimer: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/angstrom/unstable/images/ |
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18:59.23 | mreimer | koen: emphasis on "unstable"? |
18:59.29 | koen | yes |
18:59.36 | koen | the new kdrive is unstable as hell |
18:59.50 | koen | combine that with eabi teething problems... |
19:00.54 | mreimer | it's going to be a rough road, but worth it |
19:09.57 | goxboxlive | Zecke: At last i managed to build my opie-image again. This time i shall not update my dev branch, never again :-) Thanks a lot for your help ( also to you other guys who contribute) |
19:10.50 | koen | mreimer: jffs2 generation seems to be broken for h2200 in .dev |
19:11.02 | zecke | goxboxlive: use the power of monotone |
19:11.08 | zecke | goxboxlive: once working tag it, branch it ;) |
19:11.48 | mreimer | koen: maybe it needs --no-cleanmarkers like .oz354fam083 h2200.conf does |
19:12.08 | koen | mkfs.jffs2 bails outs with the help message |
19:14.09 | cedric__ | JustinP/Koen: thx |
19:15.26 | koen | mreimer: conf/machine/h2200.conf.orig:EXTRA_IMAGECMD_h2200_jffs2 = "--pad --no-cleanmarkers --pagesize=512 --eraseblock=16384" |
19:15.36 | koen | mreimer: I think -e needs hex |
19:16.39 | koen | 0x10000? |
19:16.40 | mreimer | koen: from .oz354fam083: EXTRA_IMAGECMD_jffs2_h2200 = "--pad --no-cleanmarkers --eraseblock=16384" |
19:16.46 | mreimer | koen: 0x1000 |
19:16.58 | mreimer | koen: err, 0x4000 |
19:17.07 | mreimer | koen: omit pagesie |
19:17.23 | koen | yes, I pasted the wwrong file |
19:17.25 | mreimer | koen: I know .oz354fam083 h2200.conf is good |
19:17.45 | koen | .dev has the same and breaks |
19:17.54 | koen | (newer mtd-utils) |
19:18.27 | mreimer | ah |
19:19.35 | koen | once it works I'll add sumtool support |
19:21.55 | mreimer | koen: don't bother adding sumtool support for h2200. I generated a sumtool image once but it increased the size of the image by about 6M. Evidently it doesn't work well with small page NAND |
19:24.21 | koen | http://handhelds.org/hypermail/angstrom-dev/0/0050.html |
19:34.19 | RP | koen: I think ARM kernels are currently broken under EABI if they use enums that userspace sees. I've just posted to lakml about it... |
19:34.45 | koen | great |
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19:39.48 | koen | "he EABI defines an optional system for controlling the size of C enumerated types. For arm-linux it was decided to keep the existing behaviour (enums are at least the same size as an int) for consistency with other Linux systems." |
19:40.04 | koen | is the kernel messing that up? |
19:40.22 | RP | koen: yes |
19:41.36 | RP | koen: I've sent a proposed fix to the arm mailing list. Basically s/aapcs/aapcs-linux/ in the arm Makefile |
19:41.47 | koen | ah, gmane has it now |
19:42.11 | koen | it would be so cool if git and monotone could import sed commands :) |
19:42.46 | koen | -CFLAGS_ABI:=-mabi=aapcs -mno-thumb-interwork |
19:42.46 | koen | +CFLAGS_ABI:=-mabi=aapcs-linux -mno-thumb-interwork |
19:43.08 | koen | thumb-interwork would be nice for the kernelsize |
19:45.37 | RP | koen: One step at a time ;-) |
19:47.15 | mreimer | koen: did I tell you about the latest LAB change I made, so we don't need a labrun file? |
19:47.35 | koen | DTRT? |
19:47.58 | mreimer | Do The Right Thing |
19:48.34 | mreimer | that lets us have one kernel that can boot from any media, rather than having to have separate zImages for each kind of media, or labrun files |
19:48.53 | mreimer | labrun is still useful for tweaking args or mounting rootfs from media different from the media the kernel was loaded from |
19:50.09 | koen | it was to be expected |
19:50.26 | koen | I just nailed SRCDATE down to today in angstrom |
19:50.38 | koen | I guess I'll have to move it to tomorrow :) |
19:50.52 | mreimer | koen: :-) sorry 'bout that |
19:59.28 | lamikr | koen: Have I understood correctly that EABI is somekind of binary compatibility method for C/C++? How is it better than the previous C/C++ binary compatibility apis that has been in gcc. I mean are there now really changes that the binaries would stay compatible between gcc versions? |
19:59.55 | koen | it's not about c++ |
20:00.05 | koen | it's more about floating point stuff: http://wiki.debian.org/ArmEabiPort |
20:04.32 | lamikr | ok... So mixing soft and hard floating point code. Are you seeing alignment problems with angstrom and EABI packages? |
20:04.48 | koen | yes |
20:05.13 | koen | but that is to be expected with all those bad x86 assumptions in code |
20:05.56 | lamikr | I thought we have had needed to do alignment fixes already to xserver, etc with the old gcc versions. |
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20:06.34 | koen | we operate in fixup mode, so alignment problems aren't fatal |
20:08.13 | mreimer | Is bitbake 1.4.0 safe to use with .oz354fam083? |
20:08.32 | pb_ | seems to be, yeah |
20:09.05 | mreimer | thanks pb_ |
20:09.40 | reenoo | lamikr: can I talk you into writing an fstab for h6300? |
20:10.10 | pb_ | mreimer: heh, I guess you should thank Uberhacker Zecke for the unprecedented level of QA testing on bitbake 1.4.0. |
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20:11.10 | mreimer | zecke: thanks for all your work on bb 1.4.0 |
20:11.23 | mreimer | zecke: the faster parsing is really speeding up my dev work |
20:17.21 | zecke | mreimer: wow awesome |
20:17.31 | zecke | mreimer: I'm glad to hear that, really glad |
20:17.35 | lamikr | reenoo: Yes, I was planning to start fixing it. |
20:18.26 | reenoo | lamikr: excellent, thanks |
20:19.35 | lamikr | I am currently working with another small issue but once I get it done, I will jump to fstab. |
20:19.50 | koen | lamikr: don't forget to commit it to .dev |
20:20.32 | cedricb | I've flashed a new gpe image from .dev and it erase /home/root |
20:21.53 | lamikr | koen: Yes, I will do it. In which condition the dev is now, I tried to use the h6300 machine conf from 084 in dev some days ago, but the gpe-image creation failed to some weird error like not resolving libusb that was however compiled. |
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20:27.39 | koen | mickeyl: you failed the exercise ;) |
20:30.02 | cedricb | ~ping RP |
20:30.03 | ibot | pong RP |
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20:31.25 | RP | hi cedricb |
20:32.07 | cedricb | hi richard |
20:32.34 | cedricb | I've insert an ext2 mmc card, it mounted ok |
20:33.00 | cedricb | eject it and re-insert it and it doesn't mount again... |
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20:36.25 | RP | cedricb: Interestingly, mine didn't mount on the second insertion, then locked up the keyboard and serial line on the 3rd try (touchscreen and apps still worked!) |
20:39.12 | cedricb | I've logged out and gpe desn't restart, but I can navigate via ssh |
20:41.02 | cedricb | but maybe it's something else... |
20:42.25 | cedricb | pcmcia: ide-cs: invalid hash for product string "SEAGATE": is 0x76dc4190, should be 0x87c1b330 |
20:42.25 | cedricb | pcmcia: see Documentation/pcmcia/devicetable.txt for details |
20:42.25 | cedricb | pcmcia: ide-cs: invalid hash for product string "ST1": is 0xcfba9599, should be 0xe1f30883 |
20:42.25 | cedricb | pcmcia: see Documentation/pcmcia/devicetable.txt for details |
20:42.49 | cedricb | another strange thing in the boot log... |
20:47.44 | cedricb | RP: all my mmc cards are reconised; 256M viking (ext2) and 16M scandisk (fvat) |
20:48.19 | cedricb | on boot the mmc card are not mounted by default |
20:49.22 | cedricb | it's ok if I umount manually before ejecting a card |
20:49.42 | RP | cedricb: The pcmcia errors can be ignored - there's something wrong with one of hrw|gone's patches |
20:50.04 | RP | automount on book should work :-/ |
20:51.10 | cedricb | it doesn't... |
20:51.31 | cedricb | I have too eject/insert it |
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20:53.31 | koen | RP: it seems you were right about the enums |
20:53.36 | koen | RP: one problem down :) |
20:54.01 | RP | cedricb: I think the modifications to mount.sh (the automount script) have had some unintended side effects... |
20:54.19 | RP | koen: You have no idea how much grief that issue has caused me today ;-) |
20:56.24 | RP | cedricb: I don't think this is a poodle issue and is more to do with the automounter. Unmounting suddenly removed disks has always been problematic at best |
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21:00.10 | cedricb | nite all |
21:00.17 | likewise | nite |
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21:27.51 | zecke | good nite guys |
21:27.58 | pb_ | later zecke |
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21:32.28 | pb_ | g'day kergoth |
21:32.33 | kergoth | hey |
21:42.32 | AlexTe|work | I have made a .bb file to compile some app, it compiles and runs fine on the Z but there is no ipk produced. What's wrong ? |
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21:54.01 | cyrilRomain | AlexTe: did you uncomment 'INHERIT = "package_ipk"' in your local.conf ? (i may be wrong but seems to be the thing to do) |
21:55.37 | AlexTe | I dont have INHERIT in my local.conf. But other packages do produce an ipk |
21:55.53 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r086eccbf... 10/packages/rott/ (files/gcc4.patch files/rott.jpg rott_1.0.bb): rott: decouple from opie using sdl.bbclass |
21:56.14 | cyrilRomain | AlexTe: hum.. no idea then :-( |
21:56.15 | CoreDump|home | re |
22:01.05 | AlexTe | what "inherit" am I supposed to use to compile an app that has a .pro file ? |
22:01.13 | AlexTe | currently using "palmtop" |
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22:16.07 | CIA-9 | 03mwester 07org.oe.dev * r3688814e... 10/conf/distro/unslung.conf: Unslung: unslung.conf, change options to mkfs.jffs2 in order to get rid of extraneous message at boot. |
22:16.11 | CIA-9 | 03mwester 07org.oe.dev * rc0f2020b... 10/packages/nslu2-binary-only/unslung-rootfs/NOTES: unslung_rootfs: NOTES, update changelog. |
22:22.34 | RP | Any objections to adding COMPATIBLE_MACHINE? |
22:27.59 | TheMasterMind1 | RP: i object |
22:28.14 | TheMasterMind1 | ignore me. |
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22:59.53 | CIA-9 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r5f116489... 10/ (classes/base.bbclass conf/documentation.conf): |
22:59.53 | CIA-9 | base.bbclass: Add COMPATIBLE_MACHINE to list machines any given package/file is |
22:59.53 | CIA-9 | compatible with. Update documentation.conf accordingly. |
22:59.58 | CIA-9 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rca7ad03b... 10/packages/linux/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
22:59.58 | CIA-9 | linux-oz-2.6 updates: |
22:59.58 | CIA-9 | * Enable MOUSEDEV support in defconfigs. |
22:59.58 | CIA-9 | * Add suitable COMPATIBLE_MACHINE entry. |
23:00.02 | CIA-9 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r654ad23c... 10/packages/binutils/ (files/objdump_fix.patch binutils_2.15.94.0.1.bb): binutils 2.15.94.0.1: Add patch to fix objdump output on ARM. Will probably be of use on other versions but I've not tested that. |
23:07.42 | emte | busy day today |
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23:40.33 | CIA-9 | 03florian 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r27390a04... 10/ (7 files in 4 dirs): gpe-today: Add fixed release 0.11, drop obsolete releases, adjust preferred versions. |
23:40.37 | CIA-9 | 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r459e8f3f... 10/packages/gpe-today/ (5 files in 3 dirs): gpe-today: Add new release, drob obsolete ones. |
23:46.42 | CIA-9 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r4ec95ea4... 10/packages/ (21 files in 3 dirs): |
23:46.42 | CIA-9 | Add some COMPATIBLE_MACHINE entries for various zaurus .bb files. |
23:46.42 | CIA-9 | Also update python functions doing the same job to use COMPATIBLE_(MACHINE|HOST) |
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23:50.50 | Ken|JLime | anyone know what the "--with-tls" glibc option does, and if its needed at all |
23:53.59 | Ken|JLime | kergoth: ? |