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| 02:32.51 | chouimat|Zzz | night |
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| 03:08.59 | CSMan | uhmmm.. there's no vnc package in .dev , right ? |
| 03:09.58 | jnc | i'm up for selling a C3000, any takers? |
| 03:10.12 | CSMan | try ebay =P |
| 03:10.35 | jnc | eBay is a hassle. i'll do that if no one here is in the market for a C3k |
| 03:13.47 | Zero_Chaos | jnc: how much? |
| 03:15.49 | jnc | i was thinking about $300 |
| 03:15.56 | jnc | i really want more for it |
| 03:16.22 | jnc | but $300 is decent, considering i have a leather case ($30) and super nice screen protector on it ($30) |
| 03:16.31 | jnc | will include the power charger from an C3100 |
| 03:16.33 | CSMan | 400mhz ? |
| 03:16.39 | jnc | yeah, pxa270 |
| 03:16.46 | CSMan | 128Mb ? |
| 03:16.50 | jnc | no |
| 03:16.57 | jnc | 4GB drive, 8mb flash |
| 03:17.03 | CSMan | 802.11 ? |
| 03:17.11 | jnc | none built in |
| 03:17.22 | CSMan | bluetooth ? |
| 03:17.52 | jnc | none built in. a usb OTG adapter and CF slot are your gadget options :) |
| 03:18.08 | CSMan | ah, i was just describing my h5550 =P |
| 03:18.19 | jnc | hah |
| 03:18.22 | CSMan | (which is not really mine) |
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| 06:33.47 | koen | good morning all |
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| 07:52.26 | Genesis | bonjour |
| 07:52.33 | koen | hey Genesis |
| 07:53.25 | Genesis | hey koen :) |
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| 08:23.50 | XorA | morning |
| 08:42.38 | ade|desk | morning all |
| 08:43.27 | RP | morning all |
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| 09:13.09 | kruzr_Zaurus | woohoo! |
| 09:21.11 | kruzr_Zaurus | does anyone know if qpe-gaim is just broken? it appears to come with no transport bindings (i.e. you can't tell it to connect with AIM or Jabber or anything, just put in a user and pass) |
| 09:22.52 | XorA | kruzr_Zaurus: you have to install the protocols seperately, and this is probably the wrong channel, you should be on #<distro of choice> |
| 09:24.17 | kruzr_Zaurus | I don't believe there's anyone in there. |
| 09:24.33 | kruzr_Zaurus | (OZ) |
| 09:24.43 | kruzr_Zaurus | I'll try though. |
| 09:24.46 | XorA | kruzr_Zaurus: #openzaurus has me at least |
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| 09:39.22 | koen|uni | bleh |
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| 09:39.36 | hrw | morning |
| 09:41.18 | koen|uni | hey hrw |
| 09:41.23 | zecke | hey |
| 09:41.40 | zecke | koen|uni: hrw : pb__ : RP : mickey|exhausted : final call for the Survey! |
| 09:41.41 | koen|uni | hey zecke |
| 09:41.58 | hrw | zecke: id still 6? |
| 09:42.01 | zecke | yes |
| 09:44.28 | hrw | looks good to me |
| 09:45.18 | hrw | got PSU from machine used at work to tests |
| 09:47.18 | zecke | puzlled, I have seen my name dropped |
| 09:47.39 | hrw | ? |
| 09:48.04 | zecke | holger == "doing a lot on familiar" |
| 09:48.09 | zecke | i just applied phils work |
| 09:48.58 | hrw | ;) |
| 09:49.38 | hrw | Holger on OE lately, on the oz354x |
| 09:49.39 | hrw | branch, |
| 09:50.02 | hrw | 1. Holger, 2. oz354x 3. what will familiar get from it |
| 09:50.22 | hrw | ok. need to find out what is fscked in gnuz... |
| 09:51.00 | hrw | ~lart gnuz author |
| 09:51.46 | zecke | I want to have familiar buildable (that is for sure) |
| 09:51.49 | XorA | ~lart evolution |
| 09:52.05 | zecke | my fam build didn't get far yesterday though... accidently cacneled do_package of glibc :} |
| 10:02.09 | hrw | speaking about glibc... time to check that qemu build... |
| 10:02.29 | hrw | bitbake gcc-native-3.4 |
| 10:03.39 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r971c5773... 10/packages/gnuz/gnuz_0.3.bb: gnuz: fixed levels - close #835 |
| 10:03.43 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r84a98cef... 10/packages/gnuz/gnuz_0.3.bb: gnuz: fixed levels - close #835 |
| 10:03.46 | hrw | ~lart kmail for lack of threaded work |
| 10:03.50 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r9b3935bd... 10/packages/gnuz/gnuz_0.3.bb: gnuz: fixed levels - close #835 |
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| 10:15.37 | pb__ | zecke: what's the Survey? |
| 10:16.05 | zecke | pb__: sorry, you are not allowed ;) |
| 10:17.15 | pb__ | drat |
| 10:17.40 | zecke | pb__: your contact with the force must be heavily disturbed ;) |
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| 10:24.07 | sws | hi |
| 10:24.15 | zecke | hi |
| 10:27.45 | sws | booting my SL6000, after flashing it with a fresh openzaurus-unstable kernel 2.6 build, it tells me "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0), did someone experienced the same or has an idea of how to work around ? |
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| 10:30.32 | do13_ | morning all |
| 10:30.38 | hrw | hi dirk |
| 10:30.48 | do13_ | hey Marcin |
| 10:30.52 | hrw | sws: ask again |
| 10:30.56 | koen | hey do13_ |
| 10:31.02 | do13_ | hi koen |
| 10:31.56 | koen | sws: I think the kernel CMDLINE is a bit wrong |
| 10:32.12 | koen | sws: i suspect it points to /dev/ram0 or something |
| 10:32.26 | koen | sws: if not, do13_ will probably know the answer :) |
| 10:32.42 | sws | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:33.19 | do13_ | sws: are you using gcc4? |
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| 10:34.02 | sws | do13_: no, using gcc 3.3.5 |
| 10:34.41 | sws | do13_: on my host? else OE is using gcc 4.0.2 I think |
| 10:35.21 | Cobelius | When I try to compile trai I get the following errors |
| 10:35.28 | Cobelius | does some have an Idea? |
| 10:35.29 | Cobelius | http://pastebin.de/6377 |
| 10:35.48 | do13_ | sws: the tosa nand driver has a issue with gcc4. so the nand flash won't work. |
| 10:36.06 | zecke | Cobelius: yes? |
| 10:36.13 | Cobelius | http://pastebin.de/6378 |
| 10:36.15 | do13_ | sws: does the driver detect the flash? |
| 10:36.20 | Cobelius | this one |
| 10:36.27 | Cobelius | I pasted the wrong stuff |
| 10:36.44 | zecke | Cobelius: what did the FAQ say? |
| 10:36.51 | zecke | Cobelius: I fear it defined __KERNEL__ or such |
| 10:37.19 | koen | hrw: nice work on rc2 |
| 10:37.26 | sws | do13_: which driver? all i see after reseting is the above Message |
| 10:38.14 | do13_ | sws: do you see "No NAND device found!!!" in the log? |
| 10:38.23 | Cobelius | the FAQ says nothing useable |
| 10:38.51 | koen | Cobelius: I suspect your package is using the libc-headers instead of the kernel headers |
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| 10:38.55 | Bernardo | good morning |
| 10:38.58 | sws | do13_: sorry have overseen your nand driver comment, which log do u mean? |
| 10:39.03 | koen | Cobelius: I don't know the solution to that |
| 10:39.03 | sws | morning |
| 10:39.06 | koen | hey Bernardo |
| 10:39.14 | do13_ | hey Bernardo |
| 10:39.18 | hrw | koen: thx |
| 10:39.33 | sws | do13_: kernel build log? |
| 10:39.34 | do13_ | sws: the boot message. are you using an serial lead? |
| 10:39.59 | Cobelius | I'm using ${STAGING_KERNEL_DIR} |
| 10:40.02 | do13_ | sws: not the build log |
| 10:40.16 | Cobelius | does there exist any other variable to these header files? |
| 10:42.05 | sws | do13_: no i'm not using a serial lead, just flashed the zaurus using cf and reset after it said reset |
| 10:42.14 | hrw | qemu builds ok with gcc 3.4? |
| 10:42.30 | Cobelius | ahhh |
| 10:42.35 | hrw | or do I need 3.3? |
| 10:42.36 | ade|desk | hrw: is should do |
| 10:42.38 | zecke | Cobelius: is that a module? |
| 10:42.40 | ade|desk | it even |
| 10:42.44 | zecke | Cobelius: check what the modules use ;) |
| 10:42.52 | hrw | ade|desk: thx. installing 3.4 then |
| 10:43.03 | sws | do13_: do u think the issue is with oe using gcc 4? |
| 10:43.11 | Cobelius | hmn |
| 10:43.18 | do13_ | sws: yep. the nand isn't detected |
| 10:43.20 | hrw | sws: for 2.6 on !clamshells I suggest not trying without serial cable |
| 10:43.22 | Cobelius | i found some header files that seems to be ok |
| 10:43.28 | ade|desk | hrw: its only gcc4 that has the problems |
| 10:43.48 | hrw | ade|desk: or rather its only qemu having problems with gcc4 |
| 10:43.59 | sws | hrw: thanks for the suggestion, so i have to go buy a serial cable |
| 10:44.11 | Cobelius | I just have to find the undocumenten variable which contains the path to them |
| 10:46.46 | ade|desk | hrw: yeah,ok bad bad qemu .. good good gcc4 |
| 10:47.04 | ade|desk | well gcc4.1 is better |
| 10:47.38 | koen | gcc 4.1 rocks on x86 |
| 10:47.54 | hrw | hrw@home:~/devel/build/oz3541$ file tmp/cache/bb_cache.dat |
| 10:47.54 | hrw | tmp/cache/bb_cache.dat: 8086 relocatable (Microsoft) |
| 10:47.56 | hrw | ;P |
| 10:49.00 | koen | didn't kergoth build an arm-wince-pe toolchain with OE a while ago? |
| 10:50.57 | sws | can i still use gcc3 instead of gcc4 to compile OE? |
| 10:51.25 | Cobelius | okay |
| 10:51.36 | Cobelius | there are 2 time similar header files in the staging dir |
| 10:52.03 | hrw | koen: wiki for OZ was good decision |
| 10:52.19 | Cobelius | one set is under staging/i586-linux/include/linux |
| 10:52.20 | koen | hrw: indeed |
| 10:52.22 | Cobelius | they are not working |
| 10:52.29 | koen | hrw: although berlios wasn't ;) |
| 10:52.43 | koen | 'the him' |
| 10:52.58 | Cobelius | the other one are unter i586-linux/kernel/include/linux |
| 10:53.00 | koen | actually, I need breakfast |
| 10:53.03 | Cobelius | I think they should work |
| 10:53.13 | Cobelius | how can I say that this header file are be used? |
| 10:53.41 | hrw | Cobelius: staging/include/linux is linux-libc-headers |
| 10:53.54 | hrw | Cobelius: staging/kernel/include/ is what you need (headers from kernel) |
| 10:54.26 | koen | Cobelius: ${KERNEL_SOURCE} should work |
| 10:54.33 | hrw | NOTE: Machine ID assigned by tinderbox: 19 |
| 10:54.45 | hrw | STAGING_KERNEL_DIR iirc was proper |
| 10:54.55 | zecke | hrw: 19? |
| 10:54.57 | koen | export KERNEL_SOURCE = "${@base_read_file('${STAGING_KERNEL_DIR}/kernel-source')}" |
| 10:54.57 | Cobelius | I think this has somethink to do with the include path of the envorionment |
| 10:55.06 | zecke | hrw: do you want to be a sheriff/admin as well? |
| 10:55.16 | koen | (from classes/module-base.bbclass) |
| 10:55.37 | hrw | zecke: I do not understand tinderbox yet |
| 10:55.37 | koen | zecke: how 'themeable' is tinderbox? |
| 10:55.43 | Cobelius | the configure script needs the kernel source do get som information |
| 10:55.49 | Cobelius | this things are wokring |
| 10:56.01 | zecke | koen: very :) |
| 10:56.02 | Cobelius | but while it tries to compile it there comes these error |
| 10:56.14 | koen | zecke: it would be nice if we used the same css for all OE site (survey, bugs, tinderbox, viewmtn, www, etc) |
| 10:56.33 | zecke | koen: well, we have a lot of work with tbox3 ahead |
| 10:56.40 | zecke | koen: but one step after another |
| 10:57.03 | hrw | zecke: possibility to select one build to watch would be nice |
| 10:57.05 | koen | zecke: I tend to go for the easy tasks :) |
| 10:57.30 | zecke | koen: they are all eady ;) |
| 10:57.31 | hrw | zecke: can you kick out build#18? |
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| 11:02.15 | hrw | NOTE: package qemu-native-0.7.0: started |
| 11:02.28 | hrw | 3.5.4.1 will get binary locales |
| 11:03.24 | zecke | hrw: 'kick'? |
| 11:03.37 | zecke | hrw: 'kick' means remotely restarting the build, I can't ATM |
| 11:03.42 | hrw | zecke: ah.. |
| 11:03.51 | hrw | zecke: I meant kick as 'remove' |
| 11:04.16 | hrw | http://openzaurus.berlios.de/ReleaseNotes/Oz3541 time to start writing |
| 11:04.21 | zecke | hrw: what is the name? |
| 11:06.12 | Cobelius | What was the command to create a patch file? |
| 11:06.16 | hrw | zecke: ewi-OZ-3.5.4.1-rc2 Linux 2.6.16-ck1 |
| 11:06.21 | hrw | Cobelius: diff? |
| 11:06.26 | Cobelius | yes |
| 11:07.06 | hrw | which qemu I need for binary locales? |
| 11:08.24 | zecke | hrw: any of the two |
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| 11:08.30 | pb__ | qemu-native-0.7.0 should be fine |
| 11:08.47 | pb__ | it has this inexplicable segfault on redhat, but the cvs version suffers from that too |
| 11:09.06 | zecke | yesterday bitbake selected the nogfx-foo version |
| 11:09.12 | zecke | that worked as well on my debian... |
| 11:09.26 | zecke | pb__: what do you expect on redhat? was it compiled with gcc 4.96? |
| 11:09.50 | pb__ | oddly, no |
| 11:09.51 | pb__ | gcc version 3.3.2 20031022 (Red Hat Linux 3.3.2-1) |
| 11:10.17 | pb__ | I guess something about RH's glibc and/or gcc must be upsetting it, but I don't know which |
| 11:10.25 | pb__ | actually, thinking about it more, it must be glibc not gcc |
| 11:10.36 | pb__ | if I compile qemu on redhat and then run that binary on debian, it works fine |
| 11:10.56 | zecke | pb__: lol, so glibc RH has more drepper included? |
| 11:12.07 | do13_ | someone has osb-nrcit-0.5.0 cvs20060212 snapshot avaiable? |
| 11:12.20 | Cobelius | the output of diff is looking different from the othe patch files in the project |
| 11:12.53 | hrw | do13_: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/mirror/www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.4/sources/ |
| 11:13.03 | do13_ | hrw: thx |
| 11:13.04 | koen | do13_: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/sources/ |
| 11:13.11 | pb__ | zecke: I suppose it must |
| 11:13.24 | hrw | do13_: you can add it into CVS_TARBALL_STASH |
| 11:13.25 | do13_ | koen: thx :) |
| 11:13.27 | pb__ | perhaps Uli has some kind of grudge against the qemu developers |
| 11:14.07 | koen | pb__: does 0.8.0-native work on RH? |
| 11:15.02 | zecke | pb__: I propose, you install lsbX.Y.Z |
| 11:15.12 | zecke | pb__: compile qemu against it, run it on RH |
| 11:15.29 | zecke | pb__: and ping Uli that qemu LSB is not running on a RH LSB certified system |
| 11:16.15 | koen | ~seen bero |
| 11:16.21 | ibot | bero <~bero@zux176-164.adsl.green.ch> was last seen on IRC in channel #familiar, 271d 1h 54m 21s ago, saying: '| ${PIVOTBOOT_EXTRA_RDEPENDS}'. |
| 11:16.29 | zecke | koen: he is online |
| 11:16.45 | zecke | koen: msg him or go to #arklinux |
| 11:16.50 | Cobelius | Okay, how can I make patchfiles in this format like all patch files are in OpenEmbedded? |
| 11:17.09 | zecke | Cobelius: we use quilt for it |
| 11:17.18 | zecke | Cobelius: cd work/foo-X-Y-Z/foo |
| 11:17.28 | zecke | Cobelius: quilt new my-funky-patch.patch |
| 11:17.40 | zecke | Cobelius: quilt edit the/file/to/patch.cs |
| 11:17.44 | zecke | Cobelius: quilt refresh |
| 11:17.52 | zecke | Cobelius: vim patches/my-funky-patch.patch |
| 11:21.17 | Cobelius | OKay now imageine I have 2 files. One is the original one, the antother one i edited my me. How do I make a patch out of them. I know there was a command, but I can't remember |
| 11:21.40 | koen | LOL: http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif |
| 11:21.59 | zecke | Cobelius: diff? |
| 11:22.33 | Cobelius | yes, but I don't find the right option |
| 11:22.56 | koen | diff -Nurd? |
| 11:23.18 | Cobelius | yes |
| 11:23.27 | Cobelius | This is the one I was looking for |
| 11:23.29 | Cobelius | thank you |
| 11:24.54 | hrw | it if it C code then "-p" can be useful |
| 11:25.12 | Cobelius | it's a shell script |
| 11:25.49 | koen | -p is ignore whitespace ? |
| 11:26.07 | hrw | koen: -p --show-c-function Show which C function each change is in. |
| 11:26.22 | hrw | koen: -w --ignore-all-space Ignore all white space. |
| 11:26.56 | koen | I wonder if they use directfb |
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| 11:36.51 | hrw | re |
| 11:36.56 | hrw | again keyboard died in x11 |
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| 11:47.40 | Cobelius | Hmn |
| 11:47.45 | Cobelius | it still don't work |
| 11:47.52 | Cobelius | I also tried "inherit module" |
| 11:48.04 | Cobelius | because some of the stuff in the package are modules |
| 11:48.42 | zecke | Cobelius: you include the wrong headers :) |
| 11:48.44 | Cobelius | Does somebody know a working package of a module in which I can look? |
| 11:49.03 | Cobelius | zecke: I already know that. But I don't know how to fix it |
| 11:49.32 | koen | Cobelius: do you inherit module-base? |
| 11:49.52 | Cobelius | I tried this before but it doesn't helped |
| 11:50.58 | Cobelius | zecke: Do you know how to solve this problem? |
| 11:51.21 | zecke | not knowin rtai, sadly not |
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| 11:53.45 | Laibsc1 | Howdy! |
| 11:54.06 | Cobelius | hmn |
| 11:54.24 | Cobelius | Is there something like a variable where I can configure the Inlucde Path? |
| 11:54.56 | Cobelius | in the crated do_compile script are exports like CPPFLAGE="-I/var/...." |
| 11:54.58 | koen | hey Laibsch |
| 11:55.05 | Cobelius | how can I manipulate this? |
| 11:55.20 | Cobelius | Because this statements are direct to the wrong directory |
| 11:57.11 | hrw | cu |
| 11:57.41 | zecke | Cobelius: use quilt for editing |
| 11:57.49 | zecke | Cobelius: otherwise edit the file again, diff again |
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| 12:07.45 | Cobelius | That was not about the patch problem. |
| 12:07.54 | Cobelius | It was about the Problem of the not compiling rtai |
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| 12:10.36 | do13_ | hey Liam |
| 12:10.42 | koen | hey lrg |
| 12:10.49 | lrg | hey Dirk, koen |
| 12:11.04 | do13_ | lrg: did you received my mail? |
| 12:11.34 | lrg | do13, yep, no problems - I'll reply today |
| 12:11.35 | XorA | hey lrg |
| 12:12.08 | lrg | hey XorA, I'll hopefully get a chance to fix your audio soon. I've a customer using the same chip |
| 12:12.44 | XorA | lrg: you still going to be at lug? |
| 12:13.13 | lrg | XorA, yes. This thursday - bring your Z and I'll have a look |
| 12:13.15 | XorA | lrg: Ive never tried to record on c7x0 so never seen any bugs :-) |
| 12:13.45 | lrg | XorA, I'll bring a mic and my iPod and we can try recording. |
| 12:14.00 | XorA | lrg: ok, Ill have to make sure arecord is installed then |
| 12:14.09 | zecke | cya |
| 12:14.12 | lrg | XorA, cool |
| 12:15.09 | lrg | XorA, it's not that bad ;) |
| 12:15.49 | XorA | lrg: heh heh, there have been some interesting times in holyrood, like tranny night :-) |
| 12:16.33 | lrg | XorA, ooer - I didn't know that ! - best be careful then :-) |
| 12:16.48 | XorA | lrg: that was back in 93/94 |
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| 12:25.58 | koen | hey woglinde |
| 12:26.13 | koen | woglinde: did you compile glibc for the msp yet? ;) |
| 12:26.39 | woglinde | koen no |
| 12:27.11 | woglinde | koen we have to discuss about new variables for thread/no-thread and static/shared |
| 12:27.42 | woglinde | and I have to rework the libgcc install |
| 12:27.49 | woglinde | for this cases |
| 12:28.19 | koen | I've been thinking about doing static builds for some packages |
| 12:28.19 | koen | e.g. the angstrom-installer package |
| 12:28.34 | woglinde | but I found a solution not to break the actual configure |
| 12:29.13 | woglinde | default should be shared and threaded and you can changed it with the variables |
| 12:29.30 | woglinde | for instance in the machine.conf |
| 12:29.48 | woglinde | but I have to do some homeworks |
| 12:30.00 | woglinde | dont know if can work on it today |
| 12:30.44 | koen | homework... |
| 12:30.47 | koen | good point |
| 12:31.30 | woglinde | yes it's about threaded processes and atomic operations and so on |
| 12:50.12 | chouimat | morning |
| 12:51.25 | Laibsch | Is wxpython too heavy to ever make it into OE (at least for the collie)? |
| 12:51.30 | woglinde | hi chouimat |
| 12:51.38 | Laibsch | hi chouimat |
| 12:56.45 | koen | Laibsch: it isn't |
| 12:56.50 | koen | Laibsch: someone need to add it |
| 12:56.58 | koen | Laibsch: we already have wxbase in oe |
| 12:57.13 | Laibsch | koen: Cool. |
| 12:57.59 | Laibsch | Then it is an option for a python GUI. I will to evaluate that further. |
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| 13:18.20 | koen | hey zecke |
| 13:19.07 | zecke | hey, and cya later ;) |
| 13:19.16 | zecke | hrw|gone: I have some things for you |
| 13:21.16 | zecke | cya |
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| 14:09.45 | _guillermo | is monotone 0.26 supported by oe? |
| 14:10.12 | koen | _guillermo: packages/monotone/monotone-6_0.26.bb |
| 14:10.30 | koen | _guillermo: so 'bitbake monotone-6' should get you the binary |
| 14:10.33 | _guillermo | I mean the repositry |
| 14:10.49 | _guillermo | repository I mean, it I can use monotone 0.26 with no problems |
| 14:12.27 | koen | you can't |
| 14:13.42 | _guillermo | ok |
| 14:14.39 | koen | hrw|gone: I have something for the install docs: http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/images/install/ |
| 14:16.22 | koen | hrw|gone: for people who can't read english or japanese ;) |
| 14:18.07 | koen | (yes, they are crappy) |
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| 14:57.08 | CoreDump|home | hi |
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| 15:07.58 | CoreDump|home | on an idle system that is |
| 15:09.23 | koen | what kind of caching? |
| 15:10.08 | CoreDump|home | caching the mkdir / touch / ln -s commands generated by the scripts logic on running that after the first run created the "cache" |
| 15:10.33 | CoreDump|home | meh, what a sentence |
| 15:11.07 | pb__ | CoreDump|home: can't you just tar up the result of all those commands and then unpack it on subsequent runs? |
| 15:11.14 | pb__ | that sounds a better plan than caching the commands themselves |
| 15:11.45 | CoreDump|home | in theory yeah, but populate-volatile is flexible enough to mess with all kinds of files, even outside /var if desired |
| 15:12.10 | mithro | Birth is the leading cause of death. So far, it has a 100% fatality rate. ;) |
| 15:13.09 | CoreDump|home | boot-time down ~12s |
| 15:13.38 | pb__ | that said, it would be even better to just generate the tarfile offline at build time. |
| 15:13.39 | koen | mithro: oxygen is poisonous as well, fatal in concentrations of 0,00000000000000001% |
| 15:13.51 | pb__ | does the result of populate-volatile vary much from one machine to another? |
| 15:13.53 | CoreDump|home | pb_: we did that ages ago |
| 15:14.19 | pb__ | oh, very good |
| 15:14.23 | pb__ | why is it still an issue then? |
| 15:14.28 | CoreDump|home | there has to be _some_ reason we did away with that |
| 15:14.46 | pb__ | true, though not necessarily a good reason |
| 15:14.58 | pb__ | it might have been some well-intentioned but ultimately misguided change |
| 15:15.41 | CoreDump|home | well, the script is quite flexible. Changes are easy etc. |
| 15:15.51 | pb__ | or, conceivably, some DISTROs need the full populate-var thing but others don't. |
| 15:16.10 | pb__ | I'm pretty sure we don't need that flexibility in familiar, for example, and I doubt you need it in openzaurus |
| 15:17.00 | pb__ | ibot, botmail for reenoo: I flashed 0.8.4-rc2 onto my hx4700 and the keymap does indeed seem wrong. haven't yet figured out why but will keep you posted. |
| 15:17.33 | CoreDump|home | true, there is one single link outside of var (/etc/resolv.conf)...and IMO that shouldn't even be a link, causes all kind of annyoing problems during development |
| 15:18.07 | pb__ | I definitely want /etc/resolv.conf to be a link in Familiar. |
| 15:18.40 | pb__ | I can see that this might not be universally true though. |
| 15:19.21 | koen | http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/revision.psp?id=75cf64ddd3f313d225930408f46ff10f7208d0cb |
| 15:19.24 | CoreDump|home | it's not written that often and the flash should care about not always using the same blocks. What's the reason of it beeing a link? |
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| 15:19.41 | koen | CoreDump|home: every ten minutes on my uni wlan...... |
| 15:19.49 | pb__ | it prevents you from mounting / readonly, and it does get written fairly frequently in some environments. |
| 15:19.50 | CoreDump|home | hmm |
| 15:19.56 | koen | CoreDump|home: it depends on your dhcp lease time and dns settings |
| 15:20.00 | pb__ | udhcpc is not terribly careful about that |
| 15:20.29 | CoreDump|home | ah thanks, I didn't think about crazy lease times or RO rootfs =) |
| 15:22.13 | pb__ | ideally, the system should not ever be writing to flash except in response to a direct user request. Any time you have a background process that writes to volatile storage, it is almost always a bug. |
| 15:23.14 | CoreDump|home | ideally, yeah |
| 15:25.29 | koen | how easy is it to override that behaviour on runtime? |
| 15:25.43 | koen | for root-on-sd, root-on-cf and cxxxx? |
| 15:25.57 | CoreDump|home | the cache? rm /etc/volatile.cache |
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| 15:26.16 | CoreDump|home | koen: root-on-* wouldn't be affected by it |
| 15:27.17 | koen | I meant disabling the whole volatile stuff |
| 15:27.48 | emte | i am a bit confused here regarding this whole branch divergence issue. Developers now need to have all 4 branches and need to patch against all 4 and recommit to each branch? |
| 15:27.52 | CoreDump|home | none, ignore it. Costs 1.3s on boot =) |
| 15:28.32 | CoreDump|home | koen: the old script would run and see that all the links are already present (since /var is not a tmpfs there) |
| 15:30.09 | CoreDump|home | well, the cache would probably throw errors, yes |
| 15:31.22 | CoreDump|home | maybe a VAR in /etc/defaults/rcS (which is sourced by that script) could be used to deactivate it? |
| 15:32.22 | CoreDump|home | OTOH you have to run it once at least, mehh |
| 15:33.21 | koen | emte: no, the point is that bugfixes should be in .dev as well, not just in org.oe.somebranch |
| 15:34.17 | emte | koen, i am just trying to figure out how you decide that a direct commit woulnt mangle they system due to other changes/patches taht may not exist in the original branch |
| 15:34.20 | koen | emte: some people commit to org.oe.somebranch *only* |
| 15:35.35 | koen | which is what branches are for, but stuff 'for the general good' should be in .dev as well |
| 15:36.27 | emte | so why not change policy and keep non-core packages out of branches? |
| 15:37.09 | emte | (this is based on me thinking it will only be core packages that have radical changes) |
| 15:37.11 | koen | it's not ours to say what people want in their branches |
| 15:37.43 | emte | who controls the SCM and branching then? |
| 15:37.55 | koen | people control their own branches |
| 15:38.08 | koen | you can push a org.oe.emte branch to server if you wish |
| 15:38.58 | emte | ah ... perhaps i'll propose that non-core stuff shouldnt be in branches on the mailing list then, as it seems it would cut down on issues |
| 15:39.43 | koen | emte: the problem is that when you commit something like "fix huge security hole in glibc" to org.oe.emte, which would apply cleanly to .dev as well and we ask "emte, could you apply that to .dev as well", you say "no, fuck .dev" |
| 15:40.16 | koen | which means one of the OE devs has to extract the diff an apply it .dev himself |
| 15:40.28 | koen | which is a problem with a lot of branches, with a lot of commits |
| 15:40.45 | emte | okay that is the case i was curious about, who decides/tests taht it will/would work without having multiple source repos? |
| 15:40.59 | koen | I don't get the question |
| 15:41.11 | emte | since glibc would be concidered a core package |
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| 15:42.11 | emte | well if you fix it in a branch that was forked ... 8 moths ago and you exclusivly use that branch, in order to put it back in the main you would have to pull .dev apply it and test it |
| 15:42.23 | emte | moths/months* |
| 15:42.51 | emte | since you would not know if glibc had chnaged without reading 8months of logs |
| 15:43.57 | emte | ( on a side note i was wondering if a multiple diff tool and multiple branch commits might be useful for this ) |
| 15:44.01 | StarKruzr | suppose I wanted to compile something for the Z and statically link it |
| 15:44.25 | StarKruzr | how would I go about doing that? |
| 15:44.55 | koen | emte: that would be an issue, but in practise the commits are pretty simple (2-3 lines) and you can view the current repo online |
| 15:45.07 | emte | set the static flag in your extra flags? |
| 15:45.42 | StarKruzr | emte: let me be more clear. I have *no idea* how to cross-compile :) |
| 15:45.59 | emte | look at the bb metafile for your package |
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| 15:46.28 | StarKruzr | but the static linking is important because I have no idea what libraries it needs, and suspect that even if I did they might not be available for the Z. |
| 15:46.40 | StarKruzr | what's a bb metafile, and this isn't from a package, it's from source. |
| 15:46.48 | StarKruzr | (I'm trying to put pork on my Z) |
| 15:46.49 | Genesis | a+ |
| 15:46.50 | emte | StarKruzr, if they are not availible your package will not compile ... |
| 15:47.02 | koen | StarKruzr: OE takes care of dependencies itself |
| 15:47.20 | koen | (the whole point of OE) |
| 15:47.28 | emte | koen, thanks for the info |
| 15:47.31 | StarKruzr | ... |
| 15:47.35 | StarKruzr | but |
| 15:48.35 | StarKruzr | ok, I really don't get it. this program is available as a .deb for Ubuntu and Debian, but that's obviously not going to help me because a) it's a .deb and b) it's for x86/PPC/whatever. yes? |
| 15:49.06 | emte | StarKruzr, have you read GettingStarted? |
| 15:49.12 | woglinde | ?????? |
| 15:49.42 | woglinde | where are my fishes |
| 15:49.50 | emte | StarKruzr, http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/GettingStarted |
| 15:50.47 | StarKruzr | oh. |
| 15:50.53 | StarKruzr | well, this looks helpful :) |
| 15:51.36 | StarKruzr | but what if OE has never heard of the package I am making? |
| 15:51.49 | emte | StarKruzr, the branch you want is the one for the distro version your using |
| 15:51.56 | emte | then you add it |
| 15:52.00 | StarKruzr | OpenZaurus. |
| 15:52.02 | woglinde | starkruz you can kindly ask and if someone has the tim he will do it |
| 15:52.09 | woglinde | time |
| 15:52.17 | emte | most packages are very simple |
| 15:52.20 | StarKruzr | honestly, I'd rather help contribute to the project |
| 15:52.26 | emte | other require changes ... |
| 15:52.44 | StarKruzr | disclaimer: I'm functioning on almost no sleep and am somewhat muzzyheaded |
| 15:52.51 | emte | to start look at the packages dir in the repo for examples and get it to start compiling |
| 15:52.59 | StarKruzr | ok |
| 15:56.43 | CoreDump|home | muhaha, pop-volatile down to 0.99s =) |
| 15:56.50 | CosmicPenguin | Ok - its time for matchbox and the Geode to get more friendly |
| 16:04.46 | Crofton | I have a bb file that complains abut some files that are installed but not shipped in any package |
| 16:04.56 | Crofton | I need them in the ipk |
| 16:05.06 | Crofton | what do I grep for in the bb files? |
| 16:05.09 | pb__ | FILES |
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| 16:05.29 | hrw | re |
| 16:05.30 | Crofton | maxr, I just asked |
| 16:05.38 | maxr | ok |
| 16:06.01 | Crofton | grep for FILES in packages/*bb |
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| 16:06.48 | hrw | looks like my attempts to get binary locales in .oz354x are progressing.. |
| 16:06.55 | hrw | NOTE: generating locale es_NI (UTF-8) |
| 16:06.59 | hrw | finally ;) |
| 16:09.40 | hrw | someone remember how much time does takes generating binary locales? few hours or eons? |
| 16:10.02 | pb__ | couple of hours, I think |
| 16:10.57 | hrw | ok. so I will do something other in that time |
| 16:12.14 | raduga | hrw: it depends on whether you're sitting around waiting for it, or if you're busy doing something else while they build |
| 16:12.27 | raduga | hrw: it takes bloody forever, in the former case |
| 16:12.33 | raduga | hrw: not too long, in the latter case |
| 16:13.24 | hrw | raduga: I know, I know ;) |
| 16:14.10 | raduga | hrw: "few hours" modulo your cpu/disk speed probably :) |
| 16:15.37 | hrw | raduga: today I can leave it for whole night |
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| 16:18.20 | Laibsch | Is it just me or is qpobox not compiling in the current dev branch? I know about bugs 842 and 843 but I am unsure as to what has been incorporated into OE already and what's left to be patched in. |
| 16:19.09 | hrw | Laibsch: qte configs are updated for it? |
| 16:22.24 | Laibsch | hrw: Thank you for the reply. That is what I was talking about. I was not sure if that still needs to be done since apparently, most of what is in bug 843 is in .dev already. Were you able to compile qpobox? |
| 16:22.39 | hrw | Laibsch: I do not have .dev builds |
| 16:22.56 | Laibsch | hrw: Where do I "QPOBox requires QEucJpCodec to be enabled in libqte"? |
| 16:23.08 | Laibsch | hrw: Just oz354x? |
| 16:23.13 | Laibsch | I could try there. |
| 16:23.43 | hrw | someone has 4.x builddir and can check one build? |
| 16:23.52 | koen | sure |
| 16:24.25 | hrw | koen: try to build /tmp/openttd_0.4.7-r4651.bb |
| 16:24.56 | hrw | koen: 3.4.4 gives ICE |
| 16:26.59 | hrw | koen: http://oe.pastebin.com/694406 is what I got |
| 16:27.46 | koen | NOTE: package openttd-0.4.7-r4651-r0: task do_compile: started |
| 16:29.03 | koen | NOTE: package openttd-0.4.7-r4651-r0: task do_package: started |
| 16:29.07 | koen | and it fails there |
| 16:29.13 | koen | so gcc 4.1 works |
| 16:29.26 | hrw | coool |
| 16:29.41 | koen | | install: cannot stat `/data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/work/armv5te-linux-gnueabi/openttd-0.4.7-r4651-r0/OTTD-source-nightly-r4651//scenario/*.scn': No such<bla> |
| 16:30.09 | hrw | ok |
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| 16:34.26 | koen | hrw: did you seen the images for the c7x0 flash menu? |
| 16:34.47 | hrw | yes |
| 16:35.05 | hrw | installation for total dummies |
| 16:35.44 | koen | I'll make pictures of the battery switch when I have some more time |
| 16:37.25 | hrw | I have bloodhound gang day |
| 16:37.41 | koen | you do? |
| 16:38.30 | hrw | np: The Bloodhound Gang - Uhn Tiss Uhn Tiss Uhn Tiss (0:45 / 0:00) |
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| 16:38.55 | koen | that on is in my playlist as well :) |
| 16:41.17 | hrw | ~seen _law_ |
| 16:41.21 | ibot | _law_ <n=_law_@213.173.86.202> was last seen on IRC in channel #openzaurus, 4d 22h 32m 34s ago, saying: 'MrJesse: it is also i good idea to link /var/tmp and /var/lib/ipkg to you sd'. |
| 16:41.30 | koen | ~seen __law__ |
| 16:41.31 | ibot | __law__ <n=law@mail.stiftadmont.at> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 9h 52m 37s ago, saying: 'hi koen '. |
| 16:41.40 | hrw | ~seen *law* |
| 16:41.42 | ibot | hrw: i haven't seen '*law*' |
| 16:41.50 | hrw | ibot: you suck |
| 16:41.51 | ibot | Thank you! That will be $5 |
| 16:41.56 | woglinde | hihi |
| 16:42.02 | woglinde | 5 zloty |
| 16:42.03 | koen | southpark fans |
| 16:42.27 | hrw | woglinde: I should have 5 pln coin in wallet |
| 16:55.03 | hrw | ~hail SFTP KIO |
| 16:55.05 | ibot | ACTION bows down to SFTP KIO and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 16:55.15 | hrw | saving patches from kmail directly to ewi roxx |
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| 17:09.53 | tmbinc | CosmicPenguin: sorry to bother you again - do you have any tools/... available for creating a partition table / fat boot partition now? |
| 17:10.14 | hrw | dosfstools |
| 17:10.16 | hrw | ? |
| 17:10.43 | tmbinc | ..in an image file :) |
| 17:10.49 | tmbinc | i.e. scriptable without being root |
| 17:11.25 | tmbinc | i know it's not a big deal (mtools can create the dos partition, and creating a partition table is not that hard), but i'd like to stick to standard tools |
| 17:11.28 | tmbinc | (if possible) |
| 17:12.52 | hrw | iirc we added kind of this into .dev recently |
| 17:16.58 | CosmicPenguin | tmbinc: ah, yes |
| 17:17.29 | CosmicPenguin | tmbinc: http://cosmicpenguin.net/pub/sources/dosfstools-patches/ |
| 17:17.33 | CosmicPenguin | Ok - thats the dofstools patches |
| 17:17.42 | CosmicPenguin | that will create a dos partition from a directory |
| 17:17.53 | CosmicPenguin | somewhat more OE friendly then mtools |
| 17:17.55 | uv1 | Hi |
| 17:17.55 | CosmicPenguin | at least I think |
| 17:18.15 | CosmicPenguin | tmbinc: http://cosmicpenguin.net/pub/sources/imgloader/ |
| 17:18.41 | CosmicPenguin | tmbinc: and that is a two part system - on one side it makes a binary image file with a generic partition table + your filesystem contents (gziped) |
| 17:18.48 | uv1 | hrw: Anything new regarding the MMC kernel problem ? |
| 17:18.56 | CosmicPenguin | and on the other side it writes that image to a LBA addressed device |
| 17:19.20 | CosmicPenguin | taking into account geometry and other things that partition tables are picky about |
| 17:19.24 | hrw | uv1: will test another patch now |
| 17:19.31 | uv1 | hrw: OK |
| 17:19.45 | uv1 | Did you read my message regarding ALSA yesterday evening ? |
| 17:21.18 | tmbinc | CosmicPenguin: that's great, exactly what i've been searching. thanks! |
| 17:21.39 | CosmicPenguin | tmbinc: please bother me early and often with questions |
| 17:23.05 | uv1 | tmbinc: Why did you not use fdisk ? |
| 17:23.26 | hrw | uv1: sound not working? |
| 17:24.06 | uv1 | hrw: partly. mplayer plays ogg via headphone though they are a bit muted. |
| 17:24.53 | uv1 | Speaker is very muted (nearly unhearable). Could it be, that for some reason the speaker signal is rootet to the microphone ? |
| 17:25.14 | tmbinc | uv1: using sfdisk is ok, but you still need something to assemble the disk image then. |
| 17:25.30 | CosmicPenguin | Thats exactly the point too - you want to eliminate the concept of partitioning from the install stage |
| 17:25.47 | CosmicPenguin | or at least, hide it |
| 17:25.52 | CosmicPenguin | for the lusers of the world |
| 17:26.30 | uv1 | tmbinc: What do you mean with assemble diskimage ? |
| 17:27.52 | tmbinc | uv1: you need to pad the parttable to a cylinder boundary, then append the first image, pad again, append the second image. I didn't wanted to do that with "dd", especially as you don't know the exact boundaries (as they relate to a choosen CHS) |
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| 17:32.43 | uv1 | tmbinc: Understood. So dosfstools helps ? |
| 17:32.43 | tmbinc | uv1: dosfstools doesn't know anything about partitions, iirc. just about the filesystem on it. |
| 17:32.44 | CosmicPenguin | tmbinc: http://oe.pastebin.com/694521 |
| 17:32.55 | CosmicPenguin | Thats bootimg.bbclass - we use that to make the bootable dos image w/ syslinux |
| 17:33.02 | CosmicPenguin | http://oe.pastebin.com/694519 |
| 17:33.12 | CosmicPenguin | And thats syslinux.bbclass - we use that to make automated configuration files and menus |
| 17:35.01 | tmbinc | CosmicPenguin: did i miss the "mkimg" call there? |
| 17:35.48 | CosmicPenguin | I haven't posted it yet |
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| 17:37.16 | hrw | hi greentux |
| 17:37.33 | greentux | hi hrw, and bugsquashing was good? |
| 17:37.45 | CosmicPenguin | tmbinc: http://oe.pastebin.com/694530 |
| 17:37.47 | CosmicPenguin | something to that effect |
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| 17:38.45 | hrw | greentux: fixed some bugs so yes |
| 17:38.52 | hrw | _law_: hi |
| 17:38.58 | _law_ | hi hrw |
| 17:39.35 | hrw | _law_: I posted to winner of gfx contest to get some extra infos from him (name/surname/website) |
| 17:39.53 | _law_ | hrw: okay thanks |
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| 17:46.37 | _law_ | koen: staging/arm-linux/include/libcroco-0.6/libcroco/libcroco.h couldnt be found from librsvg-2.11.1 |
| 17:46.48 | _law_ | rsvg-styles.c:838:31: libcroco/libcroco.h: No such file or directory |
| 17:50.30 | hrw | _law_: looks like badly staged libcroco |
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| 17:52.30 | _law_ | hrw: if i change back the staging stuff from 0.6.0 everything works again.. |
| 17:52.48 | _law_ | hrw: btw. 5500 is on the way :-) |
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| 17:54.52 | hrw | _law_: cool |
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| 18:03.07 | koen | _law_: ooops |
| 18:03.19 | koen | _law_: I guess I had 0.6.0 still installed |
| 18:07.08 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r53b45ad8... 10/packages/libcroco/libcroco_0.6.1.bb: libcroco: fix staging |
| 18:09.03 | _law_ | koen: thanks |
| 18:09.27 | Laibsch | Hi, |
| 18:09.44 | Laibsch | I compiled anthy successfully now. |
| 18:09.48 | Laibsch | YEAH! |
| 18:09.58 | hrw | cool |
| 18:10.02 | Laibsch | Trying to get the necessary front-end into OE now. |
| 18:10.12 | Laibsch | The name is imkit-anthy. |
| 18:10.56 | Laibsch | I have a bb file (basically just the source URI right now) but it fails with "No rule to make target `install'." |
| 18:11.07 | Laibsch | Trying to take a look at the make files now. |
| 18:11.36 | Laibsch | But I do not even know where to start in the somewhat complicated OE dir structure. |
| 18:12.16 | emte | Laibsch, thats a bb file error |
| 18:12.26 | emte | did you atleast inherti autotools? |
| 18:12.28 | Laibsch | Question 1: Where is the place to look? build/tmp/work/arm-linux/imkit-anthy-0.4.4-r0/? |
| 18:12.30 | emte | inherit* |
| 18:12.45 | Laibsch | emte: No |
| 18:12.49 | Laibsch | I will fix that. |
| 18:12.53 | emte | if not it does not know what type of build system the package uses |
| 18:13.20 | Laibsch | Question 2: If I needed to make patches where should I apply them? |
| 18:13.41 | emte | Laibsch, you should really look at another bb file for examples |
| 18:13.42 | Ken|JLime | koen: is the libc bug still there? |
| 18:13.57 | emte | everything you have asked so far is there |
| 18:13.58 | Laibsch | I had "inherit autotools pkgconfig" |
| 18:14.06 | Laibsch | So that is not it. |
| 18:15.14 | CosmicPenguin | why does libxsettings need coreutils-native? |
| 18:15.20 | CosmicPenguin | sigh |
| 18:15.22 | Laibsch | emte: It is not always easy to understand where to look. All bb files are different. Maybe I should also add that I do not really have much of a clue about compilation ;-) |
| 18:15.42 | emte | Laibsch, packages/nano/nano_1.2.1.bb |
| 18:15.42 | emte | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:16.28 | emte | it has the minimum, a patch, and an extra file it needs to compile |
| 18:16.44 | koen | Ken|JLime: which bug is that exactly? |
| 18:17.20 | emte | hmm missing a maintainer as well ... |
| 18:17.42 | emte | too bad i hate using it |
| 18:18.49 | CosmicPenguin | bah |
| 18:20.40 | hrw | Ken|JLime: I'll push your #930 in a minute |
| 18:21.21 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rbfa05745... 10/conf/machine/jornada6xx.conf: jornada6xx.conf: sh -> sh3 and remove PREFERRED_VERSIONS, those should be in the $DISTRO.conf |
| 18:21.27 | hrw | or not :) |
| 18:21.28 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rd1e9c567... 10/conf/machine/lite5200.conf: lite5200.conf: remove stuff that should be in $DISTRO.conf |
| 18:21.28 | koen | hrw: are you sure? |
| 18:21.52 | hrw | koen: add 'close #NUMB' next time please |
| 18:22.03 | koen | crap, forgot to add that |
| 18:24.21 | hrw | koen: Eric ircnick is? |
| 18:26.03 | koen | uE |
| 18:26.18 | koen | and s/Eric/Erik/ |
| 18:26.36 | hrw | uE? |
| 18:26.43 | koen | ~seen uE |
| 18:26.49 | ibot | ue <n=uE@d13.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #handhelds.org, 88d 17h 50m 33s ago, saying: ''night all'. |
| 18:26.59 | koen | that's him |
| 18:27.10 | hrw | added |
| 18:27.28 | koen | thanks |
| 18:27.32 | hrw | koen: still no koen@hh.org? |
| 18:27.42 | koen | nope |
| 18:28.16 | hrw | we need cms for oe website... |
| 18:29.28 | emte | lol |
| 18:29.45 | CosmicPenguin | wow - this is so 2004 |
| 18:29.50 | emte | hrw, arnt those called HOST backups? |
| 18:30.34 | hrw | koen: 'You are now a registered user on LTG Projects' |
| 18:36.43 | koen | hrw: any suggestions for the scm? |
| 18:37.13 | hrw | koen: scm or cms? |
| 18:37.19 | koen | ehm |
| 18:37.21 | koen | cms |
| 18:37.57 | hrw | koen: I know wordpress, you know drupal |
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| 18:38.44 | hrw | koen: I also saw many projects which used wiki also for mainpage |
| 18:39.20 | koen | that could work as well |
| 18:39.20 | cyrilRomain | evening |
| 18:39.25 | koen | hey cyrilRomain |
| 18:39.40 | hrw|afk | time to do some homecleaning |
| 18:39.49 | koen | hrw|afk: we just need someone to to the styling |
| 18:41.04 | hrw|afk | koen: create few snapshots as gfx and I will try to get someone for layouting |
| 18:41.19 | hrw|afk | koen: remember that I do websites at work ;D |
| 18:41.22 | koen | :) |
| 18:41.39 | koen | hrw|afk: I know that, I just don't know if you *want* to do it |
| 18:42.01 | cyrilRomain | koen: finally, I remade the script in bash (less quote and comma than the python one), with the md5sum check: http://oe.pastebin.com/694676 |
| 18:43.05 | koen | cyrilRomain: s/donw/down/ |
| 18:43.10 | CosmicPenguin | man - nothing like building a GUI to make you pine for a USES behavior, huh? |
| 18:43.30 | cyrilRomain | koen: BTW, there is a problem in the OE.db.bz2.md5 : it refers to the /var/www/OE.db.bz2 instead of just OE.db.bz2 |
| 18:44.16 | cyrilRomain | koen: you have phoenix eyes ;) |
| 18:44.57 | koen | and s/ipi/ippi/ |
| 18:45.19 | cyrilRomain | koen: two phoenix eyes ;) |
| 18:46.02 | koen | cyrilRomain: md5sum corrected |
| 18:46.06 | koen | http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/OE.db.bz2.md5 |
| 18:46.13 | koen | the script now seds out the path |
| 18:48.40 | cyrilRomain | koen: 'seds out the path' ? |
| 18:49.26 | koen | cyrilRomain: http://oe.pastebin.com/694686 |
| 18:52.03 | cyrilRomain | koen: great |
| 18:52.09 | hrw|afk | koen: http://oe.pastebin.com/694692 |
| 18:53.16 | koen | thanks |
| 18:53.19 | cyrilRomain | hrw|afk: even better :) |
| 18:53.45 | Laibsch | emte: I still have difficulty understanding the file structure. |
| 18:53.56 | Laibsch | emte: That stuff is not in the sample bb files. |
| 18:54.01 | cyrilRomain | koen: zecke mentioned yesterday the 'mnt db check' commande, it is a monotone-0.26 command ? |
| 18:54.01 | hrw|afk | ok. now worse part - bathroom. |
| 18:54.35 | hrw|afk | RP: http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=19184 |
| 18:54.35 | hrw|afk | cu |
| 18:54.47 | Laibsch | What is for example the difference between tmp/ and build/tmp/? |
| 18:55.40 | RP | hrw|afk: :-/ |
| 18:56.33 | cyrilRomain | Laibsch: should be the same directory I think. If you can have both, I guess it's because you 'bitbake somepackage' from the ./ and 'bitbake somepackage' from the build/ directory |
| 18:58.13 | cyrilRomain | Laibsch: so be sure to always call bitbake from the build/ directory, or set the TMPDIR in your local.conf file |
| 19:00.50 | Laibsch | OK |
| 19:01.08 | Laibsch | But I think TMPDIR is set. |
| 19:02.56 | Laibsch | Actually, it was not. |
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| 19:24.13 | RP | ~botmail for zecke: Does http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/temp/bb_ncurses_fix-r0.patch look like the right solution? |
| 19:26.38 | hrw | re |
| 19:26.49 | hrw | RP: new patch to add to linux-oz |
| 19:27.04 | hrw | mmc 1/2 + 2/2 |
| 19:27.09 | woglinde | re hrw |
| 19:27.14 | raduga | hrw: ? |
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| 19:28.07 | hrw | raduga: read lakml |
| 19:28.14 | raduga | ok |
| 19:30.37 | hrw | raduga: basically: mmc timeouts fixes |
| 19:30.57 | hrw | raduga: 2/2 was tested be me on card which does not work under 2.6 |
| 19:31.14 | raduga | great |
| 19:31.58 | hrw | NOTE: package linux-openzaurus-2.6.16-r19: task do_patch: completed |
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| 19:41.25 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rd17bc11d... 10/packages/linux/ (4 files in 2 dirs): linux-openzaurus: added 2 MMC patches from RMK - should help with timeouts a bit |
| 19:41.28 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r06d21bcf... 10/packages/linux/ (3 files in 2 dirs): linux-openzaurus: added 2 MMC patches from RMK - should help with timeouts a bit |
| 19:42.44 | RP | hrw: That's good news. It might even fix that error on the forum :) |
| 19:44.55 | hrw | RP: may but does not have to |
| 19:45.05 | hrw | RP: my cards still fail with 2/2 patch |
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| 19:45.24 | hrw | > cards still fails: |
| 19:45.27 | woglinde | re zecke |
| 19:45.27 | hrw | Indeed it does, but with this patch we can continue to talk to the card, |
| 19:45.27 | hrw | so it's a positive step forward in terms of handling data timeout errors |
| 19:45.27 | hrw | correctly. |
| 19:45.28 | hrw | Thanks for confirming that change. |
| 19:45.36 | hrw | rmk mail |
| 19:45.41 | hrw | wb zecke |
| 19:46.03 | hrw | zecke: out of revdns entries? |
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| 19:46.40 | do13 | RP: which gcc version do you use for the kernel? |
| 19:47.02 | RP | do13: 3.4.3 |
| 19:47.20 | zecke | RP: weird this patch didn't work for me :} |
| 19:47.57 | hrw | do13: I use 3.4.4 |
| 19:48.09 | RP | do13: Although I've booted 4.0 and 4.1 compiled versions (EABI though) |
| 19:48.16 | do13 | RP,hrw: thx. 4.0.1 is evil |
| 19:48.22 | RP | zecke: Its working here now... |
| 19:49.57 | RP | hrw: At least you're making some headway :) |
| 19:50.13 | hrw | do13: I booted 4.0.2 compiled kernels without problems |
| 19:50.16 | hrw | RP: ? |
| 19:50.25 | RP | hrw: With rmk on that problematic card |
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| 19:51.02 | zecke | RP: and I fear we need a test case as well ;) |
| 19:51.47 | RP | zecke: That'll be tricky without hooking into bitbake internals :-/ |
| 19:52.05 | do13 | hrw: my 4.0.1 kernel works without nand:) 3.4.4 generates correct code and koens 4.1 eabi kernel works |
| 19:52.15 | hrw | RP: in next days I will get sharp serial cable - next debug session will be more detailed |
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| 19:52.34 | zecke | RP: that is easy ;) |
| 19:52.44 | zecke | RP: mickeyl has some unused python magic in shell.py |
| 19:52.56 | zecke | RP: e.g. we can load bin/bitbake like any other module :} |
| 19:52.57 | RP | hrw: For kernel bugs they're near essential |
| 19:53.23 | RP | zecke: I didn't know that. I might have a use for it :) |
| 19:53.32 | zecke | cya in a while I need to get my physics assignment finished |
| 19:53.53 | RP | ok. I'll probably go and watch a film shortly... |
| 19:53.56 | zecke | RP: you could even 'inject' your version of a function :) |
| 19:54.11 | zecke | I think I will be around some more hours |
| 19:54.12 | RP | zecke: python is scary ;-) |
| 19:54.48 | zecke | RP: dynamic ;) |
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| 19:55.48 | zecke | JustinP: Erik has no write access at all :) |
| 19:56.55 | hrw | zecke: Erik H? |
| 19:57.11 | pb_ | zecke: :-( |
| 19:57.22 | zecke | this was my impression from the mail |
| 19:57.30 | zecke | pb_: you don't have access as well ;) |
| 19:57.39 | pb_ | :-) |
| 19:57.40 | zecke | pb_: why should we grant it to Erik then ;) |
| 19:58.05 | pb_ | well, at least Erik seems to have asked for it. I guess that puts him one step ahead. |
| 19:58.18 | zecke | pb_: right, and it should be granted of course |
| 19:58.29 | hrw | koen and mickeyl will add him on days |
| 19:58.58 | pb_ | let's hope mickey|exhausted soon recovers sufficiently to do the needful |
| 20:00.38 | Ken|JLime | zecke: getting any closer to fixing the glibc bug? |
| 20:01.20 | zecke | Ken|JLime: ah, didn't the patch work? |
| 20:01.37 | zecke | Ken|JLime: alternatively try RPs patch |
| 20:07.24 | StarKruzr | cd 12 |
| 20:12.12 | Ken|JLime | zecke: havent used the patch yet, just wonderd if any patch has gone into the repository |
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| 20:37.58 | zecke | koen: could we install a key from erik? |
| 20:38.28 | chouimat | any documentation on how to add a new machine and distro into oe? |
| 20:38.57 | zecke | chouimat: not yet |
| 20:39.09 | zecke | chouimat: edit text files is the closest thing, and mickeyls fosdem talk |
| 20:39.41 | cbrake | chouimat: pick something close, make sure it builds and then change it to fit your needs. |
| 20:40.00 | zecke | On the varpoware list are screencasts |
| 20:40.49 | chouimat | zecke: cbrake thank guys ... |
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| 21:07.09 | hrw | night all |
| 21:16.23 | zecke | hrw|gone: cya |
| 21:16.29 | zecke | hrw|gone: I will send you some files tomorrow |
| 21:20.45 | Crofton | chouimat, copy someone else machine and distro files |
| 21:21.06 | Crofton | I am sort of doing that for the osk machine and openmap distro |
| 21:21.45 | koen | zecke: way ahead of you |
| 21:23.13 | zecke | added him? |
| 21:23.16 | koen | zecke: and actually it was me who approached Erik about access a month ago, not the other way around :) |
| 21:23.29 | koen | zecke: I've been the past two hours in the cinema |
| 21:24.53 | zecke | for the last hour i have been writing bullshit for my physics assignment |
| 21:26.18 | raduga | what were you assigned? |
| 21:26.44 | koen | zecke: it would also help if I actually had Eriks key to add... |
| 21:27.05 | zecke | raduga: boring mechanics/dynamics assignment for minors |
| 21:30.22 | koen | zecke: I'll add the key as soon as it lands in my inbox && I'm awake |
| 21:32.42 | zecke | koen: did you inform erik as well? |
| 21:33.00 | koen | zecke: yes I did |
| 21:33.10 | zecke | nice |
| 21:33.12 | koen | zecke: hrw got a CC: to add him to people.php |
| 21:33.22 | zecke | awesome |
| 21:33.32 | koen | zecke: I forgot to follow up on the email conversation we had a month ago |
| 21:34.05 | Crofton | ~lart koen |
| 21:34.07 | zecke | that happens |
| 21:34.11 | Crofton | :) |
| 21:34.30 | CosmicPenguin | Thats an interesting lart - combining Looney Tunes and Disney |
| 21:35.52 | Crofton | and sleeping, given koan's comment about being awake |
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| 21:39.56 | zecke | RP: I'm back |
| 21:41.17 | koen | zecke: can tinderbox create groups? |
| 21:41.28 | zecke | koen: groups? |
| 21:41.41 | zecke | koen: What makes tbox3 good = it doesn't crash like tbox2 does |
| 21:42.10 | zecke | koen: you want to group by built software? |
| 21:42.17 | koen | zecke: like a link to a MACHINE (say, c7x0) which shows all the builds going on using that machine (oz, angstrom) |
| 21:42.36 | koen | and a link to $DISTRO, which would should for what machines it is getting built |
| 21:42.42 | zecke | koen: it will work that way (including ATOM, irc bot...) |
| 21:43.02 | zecke | koen: I'm happy we receive the data ATM |
| 21:43.02 | koen | zecke: I just fired up a multimachine build for angstrom :) |
| 21:43.27 | zecke | oh |
| 21:43.53 | koen | and I put ${DISTRO}-${MACHINE} in the tinder name |
| 21:44.20 | koen | INDER_MACHINE = "ewi546-${DISTRO}-${MACHINE}-bootstrap" |
| 21:44.22 | koen | to be exact |
| 21:44.34 | koen | (although I'm building gpe) |
| 21:45.12 | zecke | koen: I will start to send 'hostname+distri+WHAT-YOU-BUILD' |
| 21:45.34 | koen | and machine? |
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| 21:49.45 | koen | RP: "Installed 3.5.4-rc2 and it now detects my card as 1.9gig free " |
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| 21:50.54 | koen | zecke: how easy can we pull info like "what was the last succesfull build for machine foo" from tinderbox? |
| 21:51.34 | koen | zecke: I'd like to integrate it with the CMS we'll use for the new OE site |
| 21:54.30 | zecke | koen: once I hacked on tbox it will be possible |
| 21:55.00 | zecke | koen: current agenda, Fix BitBake, Create BitBake QA, Consider OE Foundation |
| 21:55.08 | zecke | koen: make TBox the way I want |
| 21:56.21 | Crofton | decide what scm to use for oe metadata ... |
| 21:59.57 | CosmicPenguin | wow |
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| 22:01.55 | koen | CosmicPenguin: wow? |
| 22:03.10 | CosmicPenguin | koen: heh - no, matchbox just went boom |
| 22:03.14 | CosmicPenguin | so I was vocalizing |
| 22:03.35 | koen | did you wrap tinfoil around it and heat it? |
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| 22:04.22 | CSMan | uhmmm.... a couple of questions |
| 22:04.31 | CSMan | what's the normal transfer rate for an SD card ? |
| 22:04.43 | koen | depends on the card |
| 22:04.59 | koen | anywhere between 10kB/s and 3MB/s |
| 22:05.16 | CSMan | i'm getting 60kb/s on a 1gb sandisk |
| 22:05.17 | koen | it also depends on the controller :) |
| 22:05.21 | zecke | RP: okay, I need to go to bed (tired) and need to wake up in 7h again |
| 22:05.22 | CSMan | koen: so it doesn't depend on the OS |
| 22:05.28 | CSMan | ah, there you go |
| 22:05.30 | CSMan | =P |
| 22:05.50 | koen | zecke: sleep tight |
| 22:05.59 | CSMan | second question, i haven't found vnc in the .dev branch |
| 22:06.05 | CSMan | is it even part of oe ? |
| 22:06.49 | koen | CSMan: try looking in ./packages/vnc |
| 22:07.25 | CSMan | org.openembedded.org/packages/vnc ? |
| 22:07.46 | CSMan | *dev |
| 22:07.50 | koen | probably |
| 22:08.06 | CSMan | ok |
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