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| 02:59.12 | paxl_ | Can smone help me to build me a develing environement for OZ and The Zaurus ? |
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| 06:11.35 | CIA-9 | 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * rce4eadf6... 10/packages/slugos-init/ (files/turnup slugos-init_0.10.bb): slugos-init: Removed the modprobes from linuxrc while we have those modules compiled into the kernel. |
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| 07:47.56 | koen | good morning all |
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| 07:54.53 | YoG | morning |
| 08:02.13 | gremlin[it] | morning koen |
| 08:08.54 | RP | morning all |
| 08:09.10 | koen | hey RP |
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| 08:57.43 | koen | RP: I'm affraid the bitbake stable branch is broken again :/ |
| 08:58.30 | koen | RP: http://oe.pastebin.com/701496 |
| 09:12.48 | RP | koen: You need to talk to zecke |
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| 09:13.09 | koen | I'll file a bugreport before I forget it |
| 09:13.18 | RP | koen: That's the code he was "fixing" :-/ |
| 09:13.22 | RP | koen: good idea |
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| 09:13.46 | koen | I couldn't remember if it was you or zecke who fixed it |
| 09:14.56 | koen | #937 |
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| 09:25.54 | koen | hey zecke |
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| 09:27.35 | zecke | koen: lol |
| 09:30.21 | RP | hi zecke |
| 09:36.54 | zecke | koen: what did you do to bitbake? |
| 09:37.30 | koen | zecke: stole its llunch money |
| 09:38.19 | zecke | I will get some food and then look into it |
| 09:38.29 | zecke | I have accidently killed my rosterify yesterday |
| 09:39.45 | koen | last week I started a rosterify in the evening |
| 09:39.59 | koen | next morning I discover it's waiting for a passphrase |
| 09:42.08 | zecke | koen: attach your local.conf please |
| 09:42.14 | zecke | *food* |
| 09:47.54 | koen | zecke: done |
| 10:08.47 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r0a8833f5... 10/conf/distro/angstrom-2006.9.conf: angstrom 2006.9: slide cvsdate for hh-pxa kernel forward to get some bugfixes for hx4700 and h2200 machines |
| 10:14.30 | zecke | koen: is it broken in trunk as well? |
| 10:14.53 | koen | let me check |
| 10:17.00 | zecke | I just returned from the most inpsiring place |
| 10:17.06 | zecke | koen: it is not a BitBake bug |
| 10:17.11 | zecke | base.bbclass should run update_data |
| 10:17.58 | RP | Ah, I am guilty for that probelm :-/ |
| 10:20.12 | RP | zecke: You think that update_data we moved in bitbake was doing more than its location suggested? |
| 10:20.33 | koen | zecke: trunk has the same problem |
| 10:22.27 | zecke | koen: could you make gcc print which FPU setting it is using? |
| 10:22.34 | zecke | koen: I'm quite sure it will be soft float |
| 10:22.48 | zecke | RP: well, it was just an accident base.bbclass had the data available ;) |
| 10:23.14 | koen | zecke: I don't have a toolchain at the moment |
| 10:26.21 | RP | zecke: I suspect bitbake should call update data before passing off control. We should also clone that data structure first though... |
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| 10:27.53 | zecke | RP: yes before firing events we should create a copy |
| 10:28.22 | zecke | RP: but we should leave the update_data to bbclass? |
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| 10:29.33 | RP | zecke: Probably not, the data should be updated and should only need a further update if the class does something to OVERRIDES etc |
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| 10:46.20 | zecke | lol |
| 10:46.33 | zecke | glibc has been gentoofied |
| 10:46.42 | pb_ | crumbs |
| 10:46.53 | zecke | pb_: it can not be compiled without optimisation |
| 10:47.03 | zecke | pb_: at least O2 is accepted as optimisation |
| 10:47.08 | pb_ | ah yes |
| 10:47.53 | pb_ | it does have this --enable-omitfp option which enables the true gentoo cflags |
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| 11:04.41 | AntonVerburg | Hello |
| 11:05.34 | AntonVerburg | I recently compiled a bootstrap image for my asus wl500g |
| 11:05.57 | AntonVerburg | Now it's created in tmp/deploy/images, |
| 11:06.05 | CoreDump|home | morning |
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| 11:06.28 | AntonVerburg | - it's a file called bootstrap-image-unstable-20060506-wl500g.rootfs.jffs2 - |
| 11:06.46 | AntonVerburg | But how do I now get this file in the flash of my router? |
| 11:07.00 | AntonVerburg | I know how to upload trx files with tftp |
| 11:07.21 | AntonVerburg | but if I upload the image direct via tftp the router doesn't work |
| 11:07.48 | AntonVerburg | so it seems that I have to convert it in a certain way to something that can be uploaded... |
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| 11:08.59 | zecke | sorry, I don't know |
| 11:13.20 | odo | Trying to translate this problem to english ... I've got a 4GB SD-Card of A-Data with 150x speed. I'd like to use it with a Zaurus SL-C1000. It doesn't work with the original BS nor with CACKO 1.23 and OZ with OPIE tells me this: mmcblk0: mmc 0:0002 SD 3912704 KiB -how to make a retur without sending the line? -----mmcblk0: p1 < > ---------return---------attempt to access beyond end of device------ret-------mmcblk0p1: rw=0, want=4, limit=2------ |
| 11:14.22 | odo | It works good with a Windows PDS :-( |
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| 11:29.53 | zecke | koen: works here (TM) |
| 11:30.08 | zecke | oh wait |
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| 11:43.14 | koen | hey pH5 |
| 11:43.49 | pH5 | hey koen |
| 11:45.27 | zecke | koen: hmm works here |
| 11:45.39 | pH5 | hi zecke |
| 11:46.49 | pb_ | hi ph5 |
| 11:47.05 | pH5 | hi pb_ |
| 11:52.45 | odo_ | Trying to translate this problem to english ... I've got a 4GB SD-Card of A-Data with 150x speed. I'd like to use it with a Zaurus SL-C1000. It doesn't work with the original BS nor with CACKO 1.23 and OZ with OPIE tells me this: mmcblk0: mmc 0:0002 SD 3912704 KiB -how to make a retur without sending the line? -----mmcblk0: p1 < > ---------return---------attempt to access beyond end of device------ret-------mmcblk0p1: rw=0, want=4, limit=2---- |
| 11:57.33 | zecke | odo_: you didn't get an answer the first time |
| 11:58.34 | zecke | odo_: and mmc is not a property of Opie |
| 11:58.38 | zecke | odo_: but of the kernel ;) |
| 12:00.47 | odo_ | May be, I'm not so deep into oz yet - CoreDump told me to ask here ... |
| 12:03.31 | pb_ | ~lart CoreDump |
| 12:03.37 | pb_ | I suppose #openzaurus is what you need. |
| 12:04.21 | CoreDump|home | more to the point, RP is what he needs ;) |
| 12:05.23 | pb_ | heh |
| 12:06.29 | zecke | odo_: not meant to be hostile |
| 12:06.37 | zecke | odo_: A-Data with 150x speed what is that? |
| 12:06.51 | zecke | odo_: what size is reported by linux, what size is printed on the card |
| 12:06.59 | zecke | odo_: who reports to access beyond end of device? |
| 12:07.02 | zecke | odo_: filesystem? |
| 12:07.05 | zecke | odo_: is it mounted? |
| 12:07.13 | zecke | odo_: tried creating a filesystem on this card? |
| 12:07.18 | zecke | odo_: does this problem persist |
| 12:07.30 | zecke | odo_: you wrote a long text, with little information :) |
| 12:07.54 | CoreDump|home | well it works for windows so I guess VFAT is on there |
| 12:07.55 | odo_ | Didn't know what info you need ... |
| 12:08.07 | zecke | odo_: don't worry |
| 12:08.14 | odo_ | A-Data is the manufacturing company of that SD-Card |
| 12:08.27 | zecke | odo_: that part is uninteresting for now |
| 12:08.40 | zecke | odo_: use windows, copy all the data from the card |
| 12:08.45 | odo_ | Size, as I wrote: mmc 0:0002 SD 3912704 KiB |
| 12:09.09 | zecke | odo_: I'm not good at numbers, does this match with what you expect? |
| 12:09.17 | odo_ | theres's no windos around here, exept that wich i can open to exchange the air |
| 12:09.59 | odo_ | the card should have about 4GB and that's what mmc tells here |
| 12:10.09 | zecke | well create a vfat filesystem on this card |
| 12:10.18 | CoreDump|home | koen: mickeyl|bbl: Parallel starting of initscripts doesn't buy us anything :\. If you want to launch everything in parallel you have to handle dependencies (like networking depends on udev etc). As soon as you add that logic you are slower on a Z as a normal boot. |
| 12:10.21 | zecke | odo_: or when is 'access' beyond... is reported? |
| 12:10.37 | zecke | CoreDump|home: how did you test it? |
| 12:10.53 | odo_ | access beyond is the last report, than the log stands still |
| 12:10.55 | CoreDump|home | zecke: I wrote a new rcS script for parallel launches |
| 12:11.17 | CoreDump|home | maybe in C it could be faster but not in a shell script... |
| 12:12.07 | pb_ | shell scripts are certainly very slow on the zaurus. That wouldn't be a good way to implement something that is meant to be a performance boost. |
| 12:12.55 | CoreDump|home | it was worth a try tho. If you ignore dependencies and launch selected scripts serial not parallel, you _are_ a little bit faster |
| 12:13.35 | CoreDump|home | dependencies are more elegant IMO ;) |
| 12:16.30 | odo_ | zecke: "attempt ..." comes after "mmcblk0: p1 < >" |
| 12:28.23 | eFfeM | hi, I needed the result of uname in a .bb file and looked how others did this. |
| 12:28.24 | eFfeM | in several bb files I find references to uname -r. Eg altboot: |
| 12:28.24 | eFfeM | altboot/files/altboot.func: if ( uname -r | grep -q "2.6." ) |
| 12:28.38 | eFfeM | does this run on the host? if not, am I not getting the wrong uname? |
| 12:28.47 | eFfeM | there is no uname in e.g. cross |
| 12:29.12 | CoreDump|home | eFfeM: nope, that runs on the PDA |
| 12:29.23 | eFfeM | ok |
| 12:29.40 | CoreDump|home | why do you need the ouput of "uname" on your host anyway? |
| 12:29.47 | eFfeM | wrong example. |
| 12:29.48 | eFfeM | libnet/libnet-1.0.2a/configure.patch: case "`uname -r`" in |
| 12:30.20 | CoreDump|home | it's using the hosts uname in this example |
| 12:30.46 | eFfeM | CoreDump|home: I'm trying to get dhclient working. it didn't compile for arm, found out the cause fixed it then it still does not work because there are #ifdefs to get the kernel major version |
| 12:31.27 | eFfeM | CoreDump|home: that's what i figured out as well. I don't know libnet, but it seems odd that a confiure run would depend on the uname of the host .... |
| 12:32.40 | eFfeM | I am looking in dclient and the makefile.conf has: -DLINUX_MAJOR=$(MAJORVERSION) -DLINUX_MINOR=$(MINORVERSION) |
| 12:32.51 | CoreDump|home | on Zaurus we define a runtime variable containing our targeted kernel, you could hack the configure / ifdef's to use it if there is such a thing for your distribution |
| 12:33.21 | eFfeM | eventually configure resolves MAJORVERSION etc using uname |
| 12:33.28 | CoreDump|home | yeah |
| 12:34.21 | eFfeM | I'm fairly sure that dhclient will not work on Zaurus either; didn't see anything in the bb file or patches dir that indicates anything there |
| 12:34.49 | CoreDump|home | it was just a sugestion who you could do it |
| 12:34.58 | eFfeM | if there is anyone who runs a cross-compiled dhclient, please speak up |
| 12:35.23 | eFfeM | CoreDump|home: I was thinking if we should not have a uname exe in the cross dir |
| 12:35.37 | eFfeM | but making such a thing is beyond my capabliities |
| 12:35.40 | CoreDump|home | if your device only supports kernel 2.4 you could hard-code that in. If it supports 2.6 and 2.4 there is a way your distro lets you select the targeted kernel. This fucntion could be used in your makefile then |
| 12:36.31 | eFfeM | Yeah, did that, but was not too happy about it. not a very clean solution |
| 12:36.57 | eFfeM | will probably have to do that, cant fix the whole world ... |
| 12:37.02 | CoreDump|home | heh |
| 12:37.41 | CoreDump|home | yo've got to use the distro mechanism to set the kernel as there is simply no way to know which one is used otherwise |
| 12:38.38 | eFfeM | probably not |
| 12:38.42 | eFfeM | or at least not easy |
| 12:43.08 | zecke | odo_: try fdisk |
| 12:43.17 | zecke | odo_: create a new fs... |
| 12:43.23 | odo_ | zecke: will do |
| 12:43.25 | zecke | odo_: create a new fs on the mmcblock |
| 12:46.18 | odo_ | zecke: you mean something like "fdisk mmcbl0" ? |
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| 12:49.21 | CoreDump|home | mkfs.ext2 -m0 /dev/mmcblkp1 or something like that |
| 12:49.39 | CoreDump|home | I'mnot too sure about the devicefile |
| 12:50.50 | odo_ | CoreDump: thanks I'll try that first, but fdisk /dev/mmcblk0 also is telling me some interesting info. |
| 12:51.19 | CoreDump|home | try deleting the existing partition and create a new one |
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| 12:52.03 | zecke | CoreDump|home: Do not use a partotopn |
| 12:52.19 | zecke | CoreDump|home: it sounds like a kernel bug or wrong partition size |
| 12:52.23 | zecke | CoreDump|home: or wrong fs size |
| 12:52.43 | CoreDump|home | and recreating the partition in Linux might fix that ;) |
| 12:52.55 | mickeyl | hi guys |
| 12:52.58 | zecke | mickeyl: hey |
| 12:53.29 | CoreDump|home | hi mickeyl |
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| 12:56.25 | odo_ | mkfs tells me that it had problems writing the superblocks but afterwards it's saying that the fs will be checked all 34 mounts ...bla,bla. |
| 12:56.50 | zecke | odo_: this dsounds bad |
| 12:56.59 | odo_ | trying to mount mmcblk0 fails |
| 12:57.14 | zecke | odo_: well, slower please |
| 12:57.24 | zecke | odo_: you did fdisk and created an empty partition table and wrote that? |
| 12:57.42 | CoreDump|home | odo_: can you hook up your Z to the internet w/ reachable IP? |
| 12:57.54 | odo_ | zecke: no, I run mkfs first |
| 12:58.03 | odo_ | no internet for the z |
| 12:58.23 | zecke | on partition or the complete disk? |
| 12:58.53 | odo_ | on mmcblk0, I think that's the whole thing |
| 12:59.22 | CoreDump|home | meh |
| 12:59.39 | CoreDump|home | delete the partitions first before mkfs'ing the whole disk |
| 12:59.45 | CoreDump|home | nm |
| 12:59.59 | CoreDump|home | that mkfs got rif of the partition most probably... |
| 13:00.10 | odo_ | ok, looking for the options of fdisk |
| 13:01.26 | odo_ | option d tells me that there are no partitions yet |
| 13:02.18 | odo_ | l lists many partition types, which one to takr? |
| 13:03.37 | CoreDump|home | that shouldn't matter |
| 13:04.01 | odo_ | then I take a6: Open BSD |
| 13:04.53 | CoreDump|home | hook that Z up to a reachable IP and I'll have a look |
| 13:06.41 | odo_ | It's on the powerbook now |
| 13:07.36 | CoreDump|home | then create a dummy ssh login on the powerbook for me to login, from the powerbook i can SSH to the Z |
| 13:07.53 | odo_ | I' will have to reconfigure firewalls first |
| 13:08.58 | odo_ | which port is ssh? |
| 13:09.33 | zecke | 22? |
| 13:10.03 | Crofton | ssh 22/tcp # SSH Remote Login Protocol |
| 13:10.03 | Crofton | s |
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| 13:16.49 | koen | zecke (and other OE SoC mentors): proposal submitted |
| 13:17.13 | odo | nest question: which of the connection should I activate? usbf, usb0, usbd0? |
| 13:18.33 | CIA-9 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * re8a30a4e... 10/packages/zeroconf/ (4 files in 3 dirs): zeroconf: add 0.9 |
| 13:18.37 | CIA-9 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r1f6955f7... 10/packages/avahi/ (avahi_0.6.9.bb avahi_0.6.10.bb): |
| 13:18.37 | CIA-9 | avahi: bugfix release 0.6.10 |
| 13:18.38 | CIA-9 | - See http://avahi.org/milestone/Avahi%200.6.10 |
| 13:18.48 | CoreDump|home | IIRC usb0 for kernel 2.6 |
| 13:20.31 | zecke | koen: we could have versioned build depends :) |
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| 13:27.58 | koen | zecke: yes and many other nice features |
| 13:28.15 | koen | zecke: like packaged toolchains |
| 13:31.31 | mickeyl | my #1 feature is fixing up the -dev packages that way |
| 13:31.38 | mickeyl | although it will be a lot of work |
| 13:33.22 | zecke | mickeyl: is there an easy way to 'compile' python |
| 13:33.32 | zecke | mickeyl: to find syntax errors even in modules? |
| 13:33.50 | mickeyl | yeah |
| 13:34.16 | mickeyl | dunno which module it is offhand |
| 13:34.49 | mickeyl | probably compiler |
| 13:35.26 | mickeyl | alternatively, intergrate pychecker |
| 13:35.31 | mickeyl | integrate, even |
| 13:39.25 | odo | CoreDump: I'll have to leave,now. Let's try it another time, thanks a lot. |
| 13:39.34 | CoreDump|home | np, cya |
| 13:39.55 | odo | zecke: thanks, too, bye |
| 13:40.22 | koen | mickeyl: are you able to build wpa-gui? |
| 13:40.38 | mickeyl | let me check, could take a while |
| 13:40.59 | koen | for me it doesn't build uicmoc or qt3 |
| 13:41.11 | mickeyl | ok, let me try from scratch |
| 13:41.21 | koen | shouldn't the qt3x11 class take care of that? |
| 13:41.34 | mickeyl | do you inherit both qmake and qt3x11 ? |
| 13:41.36 | mickeyl | you need to |
| 13:42.04 | koen | it does |
| 13:42.08 | mickeyl | k |
| 13:42.11 | koen | inherit qmake qt3x11 |
| 13:42.13 | mickeyl | let's see |
| 13:42.24 | zecke | koen: TARGET_FPU is 'right' for me |
| 13:42.40 | koen | zecke: it isn't over here :/ |
| 13:42.54 | koen | http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=938 |
| 13:43.56 | pb_ | hi mickeyl |
| 13:44.48 | mickeyl | hey pb_ |
| 13:45.18 | CoreDump|home | lol wtf |
| 13:45.30 | CoreDump|home | ~lart pan for beeing a memory hog |
| 13:45.45 | CoreDump|home | 640Mb shesh |
| 13:46.08 | pb_ | zecke: my mentoring application is pending :-} |
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| 13:46.49 | zecke | pb_: good :) |
| 13:47.06 | pb_ | zecke: I guess that I now await Erik's pleasure |
| 13:47.36 | zecke | pb_: right, I can't approve you |
| 13:47.50 | pb_ | right, no problem |
| 13:52.20 | zecke | koen: try trunk of bitbake |
| 13:55.20 | koen | trying |
| 14:00.47 | chouimat | morningmorning |
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| 14:01.30 | koen | zecke: trunk works |
| 14:01.42 | koen | DISTRO = "angstrom" |
| 14:01.42 | koen | TARGET_FPU = "soft" |
| 14:08.13 | zecke | ah right :} |
| 14:08.23 | zecke | now I remember, I updated after my first tests |
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| 14:23.55 | chris144 | good morning folks |
| 14:27.39 | koen | hey chris144 |
| 14:33.27 | chris144 | hi koen |
| 14:34.09 | chris144 | I did the survey yesterday, do you know who initialized it and who are the folks looking at the results? |
| 14:34.32 | koen | chris144: zecke, and zecke + other people :) |
| 14:34.41 | chris144 | koen: ok |
| 14:35.43 | chris144 | koen: you too? |
| 14:36.40 | koen | no idea, but iirc the result will be published in some form |
| 14:37.24 | koen | bleh |
| 14:37.32 | koen | the uni mx is going berzerk again |
| 14:38.06 | zecke | chris144: Gerwinin created the first set of questions |
| 14:38.20 | zecke | chris144: I entered them in the survey tool, people helped shaping the questions |
| 14:38.28 | zecke | chris144: I hit the start button some days ago ;) |
| 14:38.53 | zecke | we will let it run another two weeks probably |
| 14:39.15 | zecke | then I will ask RP, pb_, gerwinin, mickeyl, koen to help me getting a meaning from the results |
| 14:39.16 | chris144 | zecke: ok, was quite interesting to do the survey |
| 14:39.49 | chris144 | zecke: especially the questions about what annoys one most.....:-) |
| 14:39.49 | zecke | I hope the questions weren't too leading |
| 14:40.30 | zecke | hehe |
| 14:40.42 | chris144 | zecke: I thought quite a while, but figured that I was never so annoyed at oe to freak out... :-) |
| 14:40.55 | chris144 | zecke: well, I am looking forward to the results... |
| 14:41.05 | zecke | chris144: hehe |
| 14:41.10 | chris144 | :-) |
| 14:41.35 | zecke | chris144: my hopes are: We see what annoys the most |
| 14:41.47 | zecke | chris144: maybe we get help to address it |
| 14:42.12 | zecke | chris144: and if someone asks us what one could/should do for OE |
| 14:42.18 | zecke | chris144: we can point him to the results ;) |
| 14:42.25 | chris144 | zecke: yeah of course |
| 14:42.44 | zecke | koen: I'm doing a backport of this change |
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| 15:00.25 | koen | hey mithro |
| 15:00.52 | mithro | hey koen |
| 15:00.55 | mithro | how goes life? |
| 15:01.00 | koen | pretty good |
| 15:01.05 | koen | it's nice and sunny this weekend |
| 15:02.29 | mithro | that is good |
| 15:02.45 | mithro | guess i should head to bed |
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| 15:28.20 | koen | RP: wb |
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| 15:49.46 | luke-jr_ | anything similar to the NSLU2 but with an internal HD?" |
| 15:50.01 | koen | luke-jr_: nas100d |
| 15:50.07 | luke-jr_ | supported by OE? |
| 15:50.12 | koen | yes |
| 15:50.29 | luke-jr_ | nice |
| 15:50.56 | luke-jr_ | should work for a good low-power Asterisk box, I'm hoping |
| 15:50.57 | koen | luke-jr_: check http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.misc.nslu2.devel/701 |
| 15:51.35 | zecke | damn harddisk is full :} |
| 15:51.44 | luke-jr_ | zecke: OE does that ;) |
| 15:52.55 | zecke | slug*, angstrom, familiar is just too many :} |
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| 15:58.32 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * ra13924ba... 10/packages/libgpewidget/libgpewidget_0.111.bb: libgpewidget: add 0.111 |
| 16:02.01 | koen | ah, rmk gave agreed making you the maintainer of all machines? |
| 16:02.10 | koen | ehm |
| 16:02.12 | koen | s/gave// |
| 16:06.03 | RP | koen: All Zaurii except Tosa which Dirk now has |
| 16:06.13 | koen | nice |
| 16:08.13 | koen | so poodle support is complete, except for sound |
| 16:08.37 | RP | koen: Yes. And sound shouldn't be that much of an issue thanks to ASoC |
| 16:10.20 | koen | do you happen to know what the status of uda1380 asoc support is? |
| 16:10.51 | RP | koen: Not tested as much as Liam/myself would like |
| 16:11.05 | koen | aha |
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| 16:11.15 | koen | I guess I should revive my h2200 |
| 16:11.52 | RP | koen: I think it needs an h2200 kernel person to tie up the loose ends - neither myself to Liam have access to a uda1380 |
| 16:12.08 | koen | that would mean mreimer or giorgio |
| 16:12.42 | RP | We talked to giorgio about ASoC and he didn't seem to see the benefits :-/ |
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| 16:59.29 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rce8b36a5... 10/classes/ (qt3x11.bbclass qt4x11.bbclass): |
| 16:59.29 | CIA-9 | qt3x11.bbclass: add DEPENDS on qt3 |
| 16:59.29 | CIA-9 | qt4x11.bbclass: add DEPENDS on qt4 |
| 16:59.33 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r887360a0... 10/packages/ (5 files in 4 dirs): libqanava, lyx, texmaker, wpa-gui: no need to explicitly depend on qt, inheriting will do |
| 17:02.00 | zecke | cya later |
| 17:03.34 | mickey|sun | koen: this should fix the wpa-gui issue |
| 17:03.58 | zecke | mickey|sun: hehe |
| 17:04.06 | zecke | SUN Solaris? or SUN SUN ;) |
| 17:04.10 | mickey|sun | hehe |
| 17:04.13 | mickey|sun | solarsystem sun |
| 17:04.34 | zecke | mickey|sun: Do you know a way how I could redefine the semantic of sys.exit? |
| 17:08.28 | mickey|sun | zecke: the semantics? |
| 17:08.40 | mickey|sun | atexit might be interesting for you |
| 17:08.48 | mickey|sun | (guessing) |
| 17:09.12 | zecke | mickey|shower: sys.exit not exiting ;) |
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| 17:25.19 | koen | mickey|shower: thanks |
| 17:27.52 | zecke | koen: you might have seen it already, try bitbake-1.4 again |
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| 17:31.55 | zecke | mickey|shower: what is my pw? |
| 17:32.35 | mickey|shower | wuahauZ3 |
| 17:32.51 | woglinde | hi zecke |
| 17:32.56 | woglinde | hi mickeyl |
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| 17:39.02 | pb_ | drat, raining again |
| 17:39.20 | woglinde | pb here was the sun the whole day |
| 17:39.31 | pb_ | woglinde: I deduce that you are not in the uk |
| 17:39.53 | woglinde | pb ;) I know |
| 17:40.08 | pb_ | very tiresome, I need to cycle into town now |
| 17:40.23 | pb_ | oh well, I guess I will just have to get wet |
| 17:41.21 | zecke | pb_: no roof for your transportation vehicle yet? |
| 17:42.24 | koen | heh |
| 17:42.35 | zecke | cya later |
| 17:42.49 | koen | I was just typing a mail to bero to say that kernel-discuss might give more attention to his patches |
| 17:42.53 | pb_ | zecke: not my bike :-} |
| 17:42.56 | pb_ | oh, he left |
| 17:43.17 | pb_ | I guess I should leave too |
| 17:43.18 | woglinde | pb dont you have such a rain cape for cycles? |
| 17:43.48 | pb_ | sadly no |
| 17:43.52 | pb_ | maybe I should invest in one |
| 17:44.05 | pb_ | later all |
| 17:44.14 | woglinde | bye pb |
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| 17:59.03 | CIA-9 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r224e3cbc... 10/packages/zaurusd/ (3 files in 2 dirs): zaurusd: Use our own copy of zaurus-hinge.in instead of patching. Clean up the .bb a bit. |
| 18:09.40 | CIA-9 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.oz354x * r10ae2f81... 10/packages/zaurusd/files/zaurus-hinge.in: zaurusd: Add missing script. |
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| 19:53.53 | CSMan | building qt-x11-free is taking forever |
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| 20:10.55 | koen | JustinP: qt-x11-free provides qvfb |
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| 20:24.48 | zecke | hey |
| 20:25.38 | koen | hey zecke |
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| 20:51.08 | zecke | njs`: ping |
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| 20:56.55 | eFfeM | hi, can anyone point me to a .bb file which gives a good example how to add creating a doc package? |
| 20:56.57 | eFfeM | now I get: |
| 20:56.58 | eFfeM | NOTE: the following files were installed but not shipped in any package: |
| 20:57.00 | eFfeM | NOTE: /usr/man/man5/dhcp-options.5 |
| 20:57.01 | eFfeM | NOTE: /usr/man/man5/dhcp-eval.5 |
| 20:57.02 | eFfeM | ... |
| 20:59.23 | eFfeM | changed my mind, but still need advice.... |
| 21:00.27 | eFfeM | I wanted dhclient, but the package was not working for my distro. I noticed that the version was very old, so I created a new bb file. However now I found that there is another package dhcp which actually is a much newer version |
| 21:01.09 | eFfeM | shouldn't we just retire dhclient or add a warning somewhere (this took me quite some time and I want to avoid others falling in the same pit ....) |
| 21:01.26 | zecke | eFfeM: FILES_${PN}-doc += "/usr/man/man5/*" |
| 21:02.03 | zecke | eFfeM: right, we should remove that pitfal |
| 21:02.05 | eFfeM | zecke, thanks for the info, I'll try to rememver for next time |
| 21:02.36 | zecke | eFfeM: in bitbae.conf we have PACKAGES = "${PN} ${PN}-dev ${PN}-doc" |
| 21:02.54 | eFfeM | i think I can remove, but it might also be in some conf/distro files; also I do not feel experienced enough to do this |
| 21:03.13 | zecke | eFfeM: in that case mail oeAThh.org |
| 21:03.40 | eFfeM | zecke: the whole bitbake is still a little bit of black magic to me; I know how a bb file should look from studying others but that is about it. |
| 21:03.55 | eFfeM | (and of course from bothering koen with all kind of questions) |
| 21:04.20 | zecke | eFfeM: as mickeyl claimed "a solution is coming" |
| 21:04.24 | zecke | he plans writing a book ;) |
| 21:04.40 | zecke | I did as well :} |
| 21:05.06 | eFfeM | yeah, probably I should get on the oe mailing list as well (I'm an nslu2 person and for now only following the nslu2 mailing lists) |
| 21:06.41 | zecke | eFfeM: post it :) |
| 21:06.48 | zecke | eFfeM: we will cc you if you ask to |
| 21:07.00 | zecke | currently 99% of the mail are bugzilla mails |
| 21:08.29 | eFfeM | zecke: not "post the book" I hope. Actually I don't know if Andy Tanenbaum would agree :-) I still have some LaTeX source somewhere .... |
| 21:08.46 | eFfeM | not too interested in the bugzilla mails |
| 21:09.52 | eFfeM | anyway: package dhcp works for me, I'll remove dhclient from the slug distro (I feel confident about that) and mail to oe |
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| 21:21.04 | eFfeM | mail sent |
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| 21:47.45 | zecke | koen: ping! |
| 21:48.06 | CIA-9 | 03eFfeM 07org.oe.dev * r80048cf1... 10/conf/distro/slugos-packages.conf: slugos-packages.conf: added dhcp (includes dhclient) |
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| 22:05.33 | zecke | *hmm* |
| 22:06.50 | zecke | hmm damn barbecue |
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| 22:13.33 | koen | zecke: pong |
| 22:15.00 | koen | " In particular, |
| 22:15.00 | koen | it starts off "you should already know C and pointers", which might |
| 22:15.00 | koen | have scared off most of the unserious proposals." |
| 22:15.02 | koen | heh |
| 22:15.09 | koen | (dan kegel about wine SoCs) |
| 22:15.51 | zecke | hehe |
| 22:26.19 | zecke | rwhitby: your folks are invited with to participate in the survey as well |
| 22:26.19 | zecke | (if it wasn't obvious) |
| 22:30.48 | rwhitby | zecke: can we have NAS added to the list of target applications? |
| 22:31.01 | zecke | rwhitby: sadly not :( |
| 22:31.16 | zecke | I'm sorry for that |
| 22:31.29 | zecke | but these are the things one forgets :} |
| 22:31.43 | zecke | I should have showed you the draft |
| 22:31.53 | rwhitby | no problem - I'll get people to write 'NAS' in other, so you can sort on it. |
| 22:32.09 | zecke | rwhitby: two people already did that |
| 22:33.49 | rwhitby | (heh, one was me) |
| 22:34.08 | rwhitby | what's the survey url again? I'll do a post to nslu2-linux now. |
| 22:35.24 | zecke | survey.openembedded.org/index.php?sid=6 |
| 22:35.54 | rwhitby | heh - I can't see it again cause I have completed it. What is the question number where we should put 'NAS' in Other ? |
| 22:36.49 | zecke | What types of devices are you developing for? |
| 22:36.49 | zecke | 0004 |
| 22:37.10 | chris144 | whooo pretty late now, goodf nite folks |
| 22:37.22 | zecke | cya |
| 22:37.25 | rwhitby | Do you only want developers to fill out the survey, or nslu2-linux users too? |
| 22:37.34 | chris144 | cu |
| 22:38.32 | rwhitby | (we have over 8 thousand users on the nslu2-linux lists) |
| 22:39.06 | rwhitby | (and 150 on the developers list) |
| 22:40.03 | rwhitby | I would propose only sending it to the developers list, as you don't want 8000 nslu2-linux users giving you feedback about the nslu2-linux firmware distribution, as opposed to the OpenEmbedded system on which it is based. |
| 22:40.35 | zecke | right, that would be nice |
| 22:42.23 | rwhitby | sent. |
| 22:43.02 | zecke | rwhitby: would you - once done collecting the results - be interested in looking at the raw results? |
| 22:43.17 | rwhitby | zecke: yes |
| 22:43.48 | zecke | rwhitby: if it wouldn't be php I would give you an account right away ;) |
| 22:47.52 | zecke | BTW: we now have a regression suite for BitBake as well |
| 22:51.58 | zecke | rwhitby: did SlugOS win any awards? |
| 22:52.34 | rwhitby | zecke: we haven't entered it in any competitions :-) |
| 22:52.54 | zecke | pretty much the same applies for OE |
| 22:53.08 | zecke | I want to create a http://www.kde.org/awards/ like page for OE |
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| 23:20.12 | CIA-9 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * re8d99763... 10/packages/xlibs/ (35 files): xlibs: Update XORG_MIRROR SRC_URIs to match upstream changes |
| 23:28.05 | Laibsch | RP: Did you close bug 935? |
| 23:28.18 | Laibsch | RP: Did you try to compile libXau for example? |
| 23:28.27 | RP | Laibsch: Not quite yet - one more commit needed, then we can close |
| 23:30.14 | Laibsch | Cool. |
| 23:30.18 | RP | ok, we can close it now :) |
| 23:30.28 | Laibsch | Looking forward to the stuff. |
| 23:31.28 | CIA-9 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rf139a1f3... 10/packages/ (9 files in 9 dirs): various: Update remaining XORG_MIRROR SRC_URIs to match upstream changes |
| 23:35.14 | RP | 305 open bugs... |
| 23:36.13 | RP | 304... :) |
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| 23:39.22 | RP | zecke: What do you want to do with bug 829? |
| 23:41.03 | CIA-9 | 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * r776e1905... 10/packages/altboot/ (11 files in 8 dirs): altboot: Split altboot into altboot (PACKAGE_ARCH = all) and altboot-conf (ARCH = ${MACHINE}, cleanup altboot_0.0.0.bb and rework some redirects to use tty1, not tty0. |
| 23:41.28 | zecke | RP: target it for 1.6 |
| 23:41.56 | zecke | RP: I have a patch for 'now' support in fetchers |
| 23:42.37 | RP | zecke: ok. Didn't we have some issues raised about "now" support? |
| 23:43.07 | zecke | sure ;) |
| 23:43.20 | CSMan | by rm -fr the work directory of an app, will I force a refetch ? |
| 23:43.31 | zecke | CSMan: no |
| 23:43.39 | zecke | bitbake -b file -cfetch -f |
| 23:43.45 | zecke | but it won't be unpacked ;) |
| 23:44.05 | CSMan | lovely bitbake |
| 23:44.32 | zecke | CSMan: well you could have changes in your workdir ;) |
| 23:44.52 | zecke | RP: bitbake-tests is slowly getting useful |
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| 23:50.59 | zecke | cya |
| 23:51.11 | zecke | hmm tomorrow is my non OE/non computer day :} |
| 23:52.36 | emte | odd... once again i am confused on OE policy ... |
| 23:53.07 | emte | why would you remove older version packages? |
| 23:53.45 | emte | the bb and patches woudl still exist for it and if someoen chose the old version for a reason it would be availible |
| 23:53.56 | RP | emte: Security holes? bugs? |
| 23:54.16 | RP | emte: We can't maintain too many versions? |
| 23:54.38 | emte | RP, this is regarding the dhclinet request to remove old version |
| 23:54.50 | emte | dhclient* |
| 23:54.58 | RP | emte: His reason was it caused him a lot of confusion |
| 23:55.11 | emte | that can be said of any package |
| 23:55.26 | emte | it doenst mean we should toss away the other 10 versions of glibc |
| 23:55.41 | emte | ( as an example ) |
| 23:56.06 | RP | No. I don't know enough to comment on the specific case of dhclient |
| 23:56.29 | RP | It is true we have stale bits of metadata though and when we identify them, we should really remove then if they're not needed/used |
| 23:56.39 | emte | me either which is why i am asking, as it seems a dangerous precident |
| 23:57.15 | emte | remove would cause problems if someone expects to be able to build older images |
| 23:57.26 | emte | move to a stale branch i would agree |
| 23:57.37 | RP | We remove old packages all the time... |
| 23:57.58 | emte | i am aware |
| 23:58.28 | RP | At some point i'm going to nuke LTT in OE in favour of LTTng. You could argue for keeping LTT but its not really going to be much use to anyone... |
| 23:59.07 | emte | anyone that you know of, or anyone who olny wants newer versions |