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00:03.38ljpwhats that graphical display of bootup times?
00:03.49ljpbootsomething
00:04.11mreimerljp: bootchart?
00:05.00ljpthats it. thanks
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00:30.30JustinPCosmicPenguin: unionfs
00:30.37JustinPCosmicPenguin: thought it was crashing a lot
00:36.56ljpanyone know if embootchart has been released?
00:51.33radugahmmm
00:52.02radugais there any moderately-well documented history of handhelds bricked from excessive reflashing?
00:52.19radugai only know of a few anecdotal cases
00:52.40radugafew enough, that its hard to be certain if it was excessive flashing, or something else that buggered them
00:53.19radugahas anyone seen a useful reference for this?
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01:50.26JustinPdoes anyone have any script to deal with cherry-picking for monotone?
01:50.31JustinPnjs: I'm looking at you here...
01:50.41JustinPI have a large # of renames and such that need to happen
01:50.55JustinPI may just write my own little script, but it's just somewhat annoying...
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02:13.42emteJustinP, i think if a script existed the argument about package work across branches wouldnt be much of an issue
02:15.49emtebtw... what is with the huge amount of superh bugs in the last week?
02:16.09emteand what does superh stand for?  super harvard?
02:18.24jncCosmicPenguin: of course, it would be insane to use company resources in conjunction with IRC ;P
02:19.51emteexternal irc you mean
02:20.06emtei've heard about a few using an internal irc network
02:20.28jncexternal irc, yes
02:20.43jncand of all the possible networks, freenode
02:20.52emte...
02:20.54jncyou'd have to be really crazy :P
02:21.07emtesuicidal if you use efnet
02:21.33jnctrue company men use quakenet
02:21.54jncrunning doom on their boss' computer, but rendering it via X11 on the local machine
02:22.21emtelol
02:22.35jnci can wait, i am still running SharpROM
02:23.39njsJustinP: no script, just a half-finished branch...
02:24.27jnci wonder if a cherrypicker is the answer
02:24.47JustinPnjs: ah....
02:24.57emtefor cross branch stuff its kind of needed
02:25.04jncoh, yup.
02:25.12emtesince the branches never get merged
02:25.26v8jleneemte: I've been adding fixes for sh4 for a few months - this week KenJLime has been working on getting sh3 working again this week... sh3 used to work a long time ago but sh4 has never been supported...
02:26.17emteah, so sh is superh
02:27.10Zero_ChaosWTF is sh?
02:27.53v8jleneemte: yeah, sh3 and sh4 are 32-bit cpus, sh5 is 64-bit. Lots of info at http://www.superh.com/
02:28.14Zero_Chaosahh, thanks
02:29.02v8jleneI presume the h on superh stands for hitachi who originally developed the cpu's, but everything related to them was sold to renesas a few years back...
02:29.45emtethere goes my guess on harvard arch
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02:30.33v8jlenebtw, this is the product I'm targeting: http://linux.jjplus.com/index.html - using it for various router and firewall projects..
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03:48.30JustinPnjs: how do I "mtn ls unknown" when there are missing files?
04:06.57njsumm.... by fixing the missing files first, ATM
04:08.04JustinPthat's *why* I want the output of "mtn ls unknown"
04:08.15JustinPso that I can compare the 2 and rename files appropriately
04:08.41JustinPthis is a hack cherrypicking-esque script
04:08.48JustinPfor bbfiles in OE
04:08.53JustinP(at least my bbfiles...)
04:09.48JustinPI delete the dirs, copy them from the other branch, then run this script and it will output rename, drop, and add commands for m
04:09.51JustinPe
04:10.26JustinPwhich I *could* do if I knew the last rev that had been cherry-picked my doing an mtn diff and parsing *that*, but....this was just easier
04:10.44JustinPI'm using a normal 'ls' and 'mt ls known' to fix this, but an 'mtn ls unknown' would be easier
04:18.08JustinPkoen: any problems with me comitting soem EFL/e17 updates to oz354x
04:18.08JustinP?
04:20.16JustinPkoen: seemed to work fine for me. Will sync with .dev
04:20.28JustinPkoen: of course I'm going to have some updated to efl in .dev now....
04:36.12emteyeah ... ugly way to do things ...
04:36.52emtei am wondering if releases should be branched AFTER they have been stablized
04:37.28emteand just move out the version distro conf when its branched
04:38.30emteand branch maybe ... 1-2mo after release to get the bulk of the "large" missed bugs
04:39.05emtethen you would/should only end up with a few small bugs which would be easier to do multiple commits with
04:48.49JustinPyeah, but then dev can't be unstable
04:48.57JustinPdev is inherently unstable
04:49.06JustinPto stabilize in dev means to not allow unstable-ness
04:49.20emtestabalive a versioned conf
04:49.27emteunstable would still exist
04:49.34emtestablize*
04:49.42JustinPtrue, but that means that you have to specify a version for *every program*
04:50.01emteits a suggestion as a workaround until cherrypicking is implemented in monotone
04:50.11JustinPmight be possible, I suggest asking the ML
04:50.17emtethat is what a version distro does currently
04:50.38emteor am i missing something
04:51.22emtea versioned distro hard sets package dates and releases
04:51.48emtewhere as unversioned only sets "essential" ones that cannot be helped
04:52.48emteversioned distros used to live quite harmoniously with unversioned before
04:53.26emteit was only when oz+fam were branched did they ever start this
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04:54.17emtei belive the concept is good but the timming is wrong, is what i am thinking
04:55.05emteso if they waited to branch a stable version 1-2mo AFTER it is released then you would not have to cherrypick much between the branch and dev
04:55.22emteas those bug fixes would already be in dev before it was branched
04:55.25JustinPyes, *but* it does make stabilization harder
04:55.51emteonly currently in one aspect
04:55.59emtethe changes in bitbake
04:56.22emtesince you can not now use current bitbake in the older branches
04:56.43JustinPI use the same bitbake for both...
04:56.50emtewhich is another issue with branching early
04:56.52JustinPbut things like the DEPENDS/RDEPENDS thing
04:56.53emtereally?
04:56.58JustinPchanges to base.bbclass
04:57.15JustinPother stuff like that, it just can't be done in a brach that is being stabilized
04:57.30JustinPwe just eneded up doing a *lot* more stabilizing than originally thought
04:57.43emtebut from a QA tool point of view they need to be
04:58.22emteor you eventually end up with vastly different tools that cannot work on one area
04:58.36emteright?
04:59.16emtei do see what your saying
04:59.53CIA-903justinp 07org.oe.oz354x * r0fbf6c18... 10/ (100 files in 5 dirs): efl, e17: sync with .dev rev 34a4cccc8cdb74f4173031879341a1dcedfc7e31
05:00.19emtebut the larger the changes from one branch to the other means the more extra time a dev has to spend to adapt changes from one branch into another
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05:03.10JustinPyes
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05:19.28emtehmm
05:19.47emteanyone remember offhand how to assign values to signals in vhdl?
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06:37.15CoreDump|afkugh, I really wish one could verify what the next push is doing
06:37.59CIA-903coredump 07org.oe.oz354x * re51c5eec... 10/conf/machine/poodle-2.4.conf: poodle-2.4.conf: Fix a typo in PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel
06:38.03CIA-903coredump 07org.oe.oz354x * r4a106fa5... 10/packages/keymaps/ (files/poodle/keymap-2.6.map keymaps_1.0.bb): keymaps: Fix keymap-2.6 for Poodle
06:38.07CIA-903coredump 07org.oe.oz354x * r3c4f1e08... 10/packages/linux/ (2 files in 2 dirs): linux: defonfig-poodle/2.6: Change the default font-size to the kernel 2.4 default for QVGA
06:38.12CIA-903coredump 07org.oe.dev * ra9e4bb6b... 10/packages/altboot/ (9 files in 7 dirs): altboot: Add 1.0.7-rc3, containing kernel 2.6 Poodle and Tosa configs
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07:51.15zeckeljp: ping
07:52.03koengood morning all
07:53.21XorAmorning
07:53.55koenhey XorA
07:57.19pb_hail zecke
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08:07.42zeckehi
08:11.59hrw|gonemorning
08:12.57XorAhey hrw|work
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08:24.59koenhrm
08:27.31hrw|workCoreDump|afk: sync 2.6 kernel changes oz354x<>dev after changes please
08:30.00CoreDump|afkhrw|work: that is on my todo, yes
08:30.23CoreDump|homemorning
08:30.34hrw|workCoreDump|home: plan to fix 2.4 on poodle or skip it totally?
08:30.36koenhey CoreDump|home
08:31.27CoreDump|homehrw|work: depends on how busy RP is actually. 2.4 is a total mess on Poodle and I'd really love to see the remaining 2.6 problems resolved so we can bury 2.4 for good
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08:31.54koenCoreDump|home: only sounds and usb-gadget are missing, right?
08:32.03CoreDump|homenah, there's a bit more
08:32.31hrw|workCoreDump|home: can you create poodle 2.6 status summary?
08:32.50CoreDump|homehttp://openembedded.pastebin.com/711028
08:32.53CoreDump|homesure
08:33.36CoreDump|homethe big bugger ATM is the non-working touchscreen =)
08:33.50CoreDump|homeor maybe I'm missing a module heh
08:34.33koenwho needs a touchscreen?
08:34.53CoreDump|hometrue, a touchscreen is just fluff =)
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08:35.50do13_morning all
08:36.24koenhey dirk
08:36.47CoreDump|homeho do13
08:36.51hrw|workhi dirk
08:37.03do13_hey koen, marcin, CoreDump|home
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08:41.15CIA-903koen 07org.oe.dev * r581ff367... 10/packages/linux/handhelds-pxa-2.6/h2200/defconfig: h2200: tweak defconfig a bit
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09:01.06koenFUD!
09:01.08hrw|workzecke: GPIE?
09:01.11XorAzecke: heh heh
09:01.49XorAsomeone resurect harmony and make Gtopia
09:04.01hrw|workdoes all clamshells do halt/reboot/poweroff properly now?
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09:05.16koenheh, harmony
09:07.22zeckeXorA: Qtopia is irrelevant any way
09:07.43XorAzecke: insmod gui.ko
09:07.46zeckeXorA: comparing it to other prorpietary solutions it is losing
09:07.55zeckeXorA: and they don't want a community :}
09:08.53zeckeanyway off to the dentist :}
09:08.56zeckecya
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09:12.12alan|homehi all
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10:01.10CIA-903koen 07org.oe.dev * ra9046f49... 10/packages/linux/handhelds-pxa-2.6/ipaq-pxa270/defconfig: handhelds pxa cvs: first stab at updating ipaq-pxa270 defconfig
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10:22.00CIA-903xora 07org.oe.dev * r6494179f... 10/packages/rxvt-unicode/rxvt-unicode_7.7.bb:
10:22.00CIA-9packages/rxvt-unicode/rxvt-unicode_7.7.bb : new version of rxvt-unicode,
10:22.00CIA-9I have left at DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = "-1" because it is such a large
10:22.00CIA-9version jump and because I fiddled with the building of this.
10:22.38XorAkoen: go play
10:23.12koenyay!
10:23.47XorAkoen: fix/promote its preference at will :-)
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10:27.31koenXorA: | rxvtfont.C: In member function 'virtual void rxvt_font_xft::draw(rxvt_drawable&, int, int, const text_t*, int, int, int)':| rxvtfont.C:1328: error: 'struct rxvt_term' has no member named 'bgPixmap'
10:28.10XorAkoen: WTF
10:28.35koenlet's disable PARALLEL_MAKE first :)
10:28.46koennope, same thing
10:29.56XorAkoen: :-(
10:30.19XorAkoen: must be a different in libs we have installed
10:30.51XorAkoen: did your configure find libXpm?
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10:32.14koen. WARNING: --enable-xpm-background was specified however the     .
10:32.14koen.          XPM includes files and libraries could not be found.  .
10:34.07XorAkoen: hmm, add libXpm to depends, I forgot
10:34.41XorA~lart me
10:35.22koenhmmm
10:35.31koenlibxpm was already built
10:36.24koen.dev, oz-unstable, btw
10:36.34XorAkoen: always what I use
10:37.09XorAkoen: crappit I see, it found XPM in my /usr/lib
10:38.25XorAkoen: working on it
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10:42.18XorAkoen: pull again, fixed it
10:45.05CIA-903xora 07org.oe.dev * r07a062ff... 10/packages/rxvt-unicode/rxvt-unicode_7.7.bb:
10:45.05CIA-9packages/rxvt-unicode/rxvt-unicode_7.7.bb : fix libxpm depend and finding
10:45.05CIA-9in staging.
10:47.00koenNOTE: package rxvt-unicode-7.7-r0: task do_build: completed
10:50.56XorAYAY
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11:02.35koenXorA: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.23390.png
11:04.31hrw|workkoen: nice keyboard
11:04.58koenmatchbox-keyboard
11:05.07lardman|worknice colour, hmm... ;)
11:06.34XorAkoen: the bgcolour on mine is not pink, but scroll bar and ls -color highlited test is :-)
11:07.04koenXorA: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.24016.png
11:07.08koenI love epdfview
11:07.31XorAkoen: cool
11:07.52XorAkoen: just hope it doesnt suffer in speed from feature creep
11:10.29koenindeed
11:10.45koento bad it can't to realtime dragging
11:11.00koenprobably that stupid cairo
11:18.12XorAkoen: so why is your rxvt pink?
11:19.21koenXorA: no idea
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11:51.40Ifaistosgreetings !
11:56.32koenhey Ifaistos
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12:00.18Ifaistoskoen : Hi !
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12:00.40Ifaistoskoen : Its too quite in the channel... what is going on :)
12:02.21koensunny weather outside :)
12:02.50koenI'm only inside to download some maps to test maemomapper + gps
12:03.32mithrofark, something seems to have partially cut my power cable for my laptop :/
12:10.13Croftonkoen, what kind of gps?
12:10.38koenCrofton: holux bluetooth thingie
12:10.46koenCrofton: about $80
12:10.50Croftoncool
12:11.19Croftondo you have an url for maemo mapper?
12:11.26Croftongoogle isn't helpful
12:12.22Croftonfound it
12:12.31koenhttp://gnuite.com:8080/nokia770/maemo-mapper/#using
12:12.33koenit rocks!
12:12.43koen(after doing 'mkdir ~/apps')
12:13.14Croftonheh
12:14.48Croftonwhich model receiver do you have?
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12:16.15koengr 230xx
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12:41.19chouimatmorning
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13:00.11Genesisbonjour
13:05.12_guillermois there any place to find more info about angstrom besides http://angstrom.linuxtogo.org/?
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13:24.46GerrathI made a minor change in the Linux config file for my kernel, how do I get OE to rebuild now?
13:26.56CoreDump|home$WORK_DIR/${PN}/tmp/run.do_compile + run.do_install should do
13:28.07hrw|workbitbake virtual/kernel -ccompile -f
13:29.36Gerrathis there a good quick guide for bitbake?
13:31.08Gerrathuhm, I tried hrw|work method but got the following error: ERROR: InvalidTask event exception, aborting
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13:33.31KenJlimeHail
13:33.48hrw|workho KenJlime
13:34.06hrw|workGerrath: bitbake -b path/to/recipe/recipe.bb -f -ccompile
13:36.01Gerrathhrw|work, that seems to be working.
13:37.43KenJlime:)
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13:43.15magnethi
13:43.34magnetI'm looking for some exemple bb file to compile a kernel module. can someone help me please ?
13:44.09Gerrathhrw|work, once I rebuild the kernel can I then run bitbake bootstrap-image to rebuild the deploy/image?
13:44.42hrw|workyes
13:44.59hrw|workmagnet: 2.4 module: bt950-cs_0.1.bb
13:45.08Gerrathhrw|work, thanks... Its starting to make sense now :)
13:45.09hrw|workmagnet: any version: hostap/hostap-modules_*.bb
13:45.19magnethrw|work: thanks !
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14:28.26KenJlimeCould anyone take a look at bug #956 and please commit and close.
14:29.44KenJlimeOh one question
14:30.06KenJlimeWhen A bug is solved, should I change the title so that the people know they should take a look at it and possibly commit?
14:32.21KenJlimeAny guru around to answer that?
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14:40.17KenJlimekoen: ?
14:41.02XorAhey lrg
14:41.12hrw|workKenJlime: comment 'patch tested, solves bug, please commit' should be enough
14:41.21CosmicPenguindon't change the title
14:41.24CosmicPenguinthats confusing and wrong
14:42.02hrw|workKenJlime: you can also create superh metabug and make all new sh bugs block it - this way it will be easier to look at sh bugs
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14:47.36KenJlimeOki thx for info
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14:50.53lrghey XorA - will be working on your bug before next rc.
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14:54.28XorAlrg: Well Im in benidorm for 2 weeks from tomorrow so no rush :-)
14:55.04XorAinteresting rxvt-unicode is pink even when X forwarded
14:55.32lrgXorA, funnily enough, I'm just back from Feungirola
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15:03.39koenbleh
15:04.12Cockroach-try 8
15:04.29Cockroach-like some of us
15:04.31woglindekoen why?
15:04.31Cockroach-:)
15:05.05koenwoglinde: because I go on holiday in june :)
15:05.19koenand use july + august to prepare for exams and GSoC
15:06.08lrgheh
15:06.10XorAahah, while koen is away we can release Angstrom
15:06.14koen:)
15:06.17woglindexora hihi
15:06.32koen2006.6 - "pile of bugs"
15:07.06XorAkoen: I shall use gccX V5.0 to fix all the bugs
15:07.57koencool
15:08.09hrw|workljp: WHERE in Poland?
15:08.32koenXorA: I think we need a new theme, with a dominant colour, like ubuntu has
15:08.46koenXorA: I propose pink, so we don't need to patch rxvt ;)
15:09.42koenhrw|work: do the z kernels have the 'load cis from userspace' setting on?
15:09.45hrw|workops.
15:09.51hrw|worklrg: WHERE in Poland?
15:09.57lrghrw|work, starting at Warsaw on July 19/20th, then I'm not sure. I need to check the details (at home)
15:09.59hrw|workkoen: dont know
15:10.25hrw|worklrg: add Poznan to the list - so we could meet in person
15:10.34lrghrw|work, trip will last 10 days and go through a few countries
15:11.01hrw|workah.. ok then
15:11.30woglindekoen hehe
15:11.32emte4 kegs?
15:11.45emtethats alot to have on hand
15:11.48lrghrw|work, ok. I'll need to check with my Wife as she is organising. I'll have more details soon.
15:11.55koenif I run out, I can borrow from the bar I work
15:17.32woglindekoen take some grolsch with you
15:18.58hrw|worklrg: you have zaurus 3x00 - right?
15:19.38lrghrw|work, yes and a tosa atm
15:20.17hrw|worklrg: does 2.6 use green led as HDD led or as flash led on 3x00?
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15:20.57lrghrw|work, afaik it flashes - I'll be able to check this when I'm home
15:21.07Genesisre
15:21.19hrw|worklrg: ok
15:21.53hrw|worklrg: I want to complete OZ 3.5.4.1 release notes before final release - http://openzaurus.berlios.de/ReleaseNotes/Oz3541
15:22.30lrghrw|work, ah - maybe greentux can will know
15:22.38lrg~seen greentux
15:22.40ibotgreentux <n=m@195.227.105.180> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 8d 21h 45m 7s ago, saying: 'hi hrw, and bugsquashing was good?'.
15:25.23hrw|worktime to go - gym day today
15:25.43lrgcu
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15:33.45koenfood time
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16:01.11RPhrw|gone: pong :-/
16:01.18RPCoreDump|home: touchscreen should work on poodle
16:01.35RPCoreDump|home: Sounds like you're missing the hacks patch?
16:01.35CoreDump|homeit doesn't :\
16:02.07CoreDump|homeI grepped the .dev and .oz354x .bb's for poodle and both where identical
16:04.01RPCoreDump|home: It works on mine so its just a question of why not for you...
16:04.10CoreDump|homeyep
16:04.34CoreDump|homeforgot to push a cset maybe?
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16:04.48RPno, I'm in sync...
16:05.03RPTouchscreen worked for cedric too...
16:05.05CoreDump|homehmmm
16:06.03CoreDump|homecat /dev/input/event0 hangs, event1 produces something when I touch the screen but calibrate won't work with it and tslib-tests always reports the same position
16:08.16CoreDump|homeRP: is the locomo kbd driver used by collie,too? Or only poodle?
16:08.25RPThe same position is bad :-/
16:08.32RPCoreDump|home: poodle + collie
16:08.48CoreDump|homeargh
16:09.14CoreDump|homeoh well, chances are that collie suffered the same 2.6 kbd bugs which I managed to correct
16:09.30RPThe keymap was wrong?
16:10.24CoreDump|homenah the driver doesn't like keycodes >138 or so. And all hotkeys were hardwired to keycodes > 138, Home wasn't mapped at all.
16:10.37CoreDump|homeI corrected the mapping
16:11.05RPI see. We really need to do that in mainline...
16:14.53RPCoreDump|home: It could be I broke the touchscreen driver for poodle when refactoring the code. You can try using something like http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/patches/poodle_ts_hack-r0.patch instead if the touchscreen bits in the rp_poodle_hacks patch (back out the corgi_ssp changes and disable it)
16:15.11CoreDump|homewill try
16:15.28RPThere shouldn't be much wrong with the code apart from perhaps the serial speed of the ssp port beng incorrect...
16:17.19CIA-903cbrake 07org.oe.dev * re4d2a954... 10/conf/machine/mainstone.conf: mainstone.conf: test commit
16:19.07mickeylyo
16:19.12CoreDump|homehi mickeyl
16:19.19woglindejo mickeyl
16:19.38koenhey mickeyl
16:20.05RPhi mickeyl
16:21.00HopsNBarleyyo mickeyl - you get my email comments on resume?
16:21.36mickeylHopsNBarley: yeah, many thanks. :) I'll get you an answer later tonite
16:21.52HopsNBarleycool.  good luck!
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16:23.33koenmickeyl: it seems out keyprivs our out of sync, I'll try to sync them this weekend
16:23.47mickeylkoen: good plan, thanks
16:23.52koenunless its sunny weather, in which case I'll be away from my laptop :)
16:23.57mickeylhehe
16:24.17CIA-903mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rcf54ffcd... 10/packages/lemon/ (5 files): lemon: upgrade to 3.3.5, take source from sqlite release
16:24.22CIA-903mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r86824606... 10/ (36 files in 5 dirs):
16:24.22CIA-9add first stab at support for the Motorola A780 GSM phone
16:24.22CIA-9NOTE: for now, we use a dedicated linux-ezx kernel, but once this proves working,
16:24.22CIA-9we will probably unify with linux-openzaurus
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16:24.38koenheh
16:24.43koennew toy?
16:24.45woglindehe
16:24.54mickeyl*nod*
16:24.56mickeylcouldn't hesitate
16:24.59mickeylordered it yesterday
16:25.08mickeylsince the openezx project seems to progress nicely
16:25.12Genesisa+
16:25.14mickeylbefore they start to cook their own... let's add it :D
16:25.24woglindehihi
16:25.27koentheir using debian on an sd
16:25.29woglindeyou should write harald
16:26.19mickeylhe already knows about me and that I'll add ezx support to OE
16:26.30woglinde:)
16:26.36mickeylI can communicate :))
16:26.51woglindehm oh
16:27.10woglinde<PROTECTED>
16:27.14koencute
16:27.18mickeylthat's a steal
16:27.39koenI just bought a 4gb cf card
16:27.55koenand my dad a 4gb microdrive
16:28.11koenmechanical parts......
16:28.29koen~lart linux for 2gb swap limit
16:28.44woglindekoen?
16:28.46koen2gb swap works nicely on a corgi
16:28.56koenswap partitions are limited to 2gb
16:29.01woglindehm
16:29.12woglindeI thougt that were only on 2.4
16:29.29koenbusybox mkswap truncates them
16:29.58KenJlime~lart spam
16:30.04KenJlimelol
16:30.14KenJlime~lart wonderbra
16:31.09woglindeto bad my brother has only mmc in his yakumo, the sd card would be a nice birthday present
16:32.12mickeylwhat's our position on bb 1.1 in .dev?
16:32.18mickeylanything holding it back?
16:32.25koenbusybox?
16:32.28mickeylya
16:32.31KenJlimeblackbox?
16:32.31koensome patches need to be ported
16:32.39koenthere's an OE bug about it
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16:36.27KenJlimeI have a couple of bugs waiting for commiting : #970, #956, #961 (First revert #954)
16:37.39mickeylKenJlime: removing all the ac_cv_host ?
16:38.09KenJlimeYeah from the sh3 site file
16:38.14mickeylsh4 as well?
16:38.25KenJlimeyeah, although jamie hasnt uploaded any patch for that yet.
16:38.28mickeylnm, t's not there
16:38.43mickeylk, i'll handle that now
16:38.47KenJlimeBig thx
16:38.52koenI'll revert 954
16:38.54mickeylnp, i have 10 minutes to spare .))
16:39.06mickeylkoen: you do 954? ok
16:39.25KenJlimeThinking about doing a complete build from scratch after these bugs have been commited, just to make sure it builds nicely from the ground up
16:39.31mickeylgood plan
16:40.14KenJlimekoen: you talked about setting -99 in the machine file? how does that work?.. glibc_2.4 doesnt build nicely for the sh3 arch currently
16:40.36koenKenJlime: no, set it to -99 in all 'bad' glibc files
16:40.53KenJlimekoen: not following you, got any examples?
16:40.54koenmickeyl: stuff with a negative default pref doesn't show up in the shell anymore...
16:42.30mickeylbummer
16:42.40mickeylneed to do some shell work next month
16:43.05koenKenJlime: DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = "<some negative number>" tells bitbake to skip that
16:43.27koenDEFAULT_PREFERENCE_sh3 = "-99" tells bitbake to skip them for sh3 archs  
16:44.12KenJlimeaha nice, so I only need to put the default_preference in the glibc files, and not in the machine file?
16:44.39koenyes
16:45.02koenthat way people are free to build glibc 2.4 for sh3
16:45.10koenor 2.3.2 for leetarch
16:45.40KenJlimeGoodie, will work on those patches
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16:45.56KenJlimeWill make the jornada6xx.conf bug go away also and put it under a new one
16:46.18KenJlimeor, wait better keep the jornada6xx.conf and put new patches there instead
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16:48.20CIA-903koen 07org.oe.dev * rb71a8187... 10/packages/glibc/glibc_2.3.5+cvs20050627.bb: glibc: revert #954
16:48.25CIA-903koen 07org.oe.dev * r20d82b86... 10/site/sh3-linux: sh3-linux: remove ac_cv_host=${ac_cv_host=sh-pc-linux-gnu} from site file, part of #954
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16:50.12CIA-903mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * re5cec1e8... 10/packages/openssl/ (openssl.inc openssl_0.9.7e.bb openssl_0.9.7g.bb): openssl: add patch to make it build for sh3 and sh4. closes #956
16:50.18CIA-903mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r3218f01f... 10/conf/distro/ (3 files): add metadata to some configurations. fixes #970
16:51.11CoreDump|homeRP: I completely backed out rp_poodle_hacks-r0.patch, TS is still dead
16:53.08mickeylKenJlime: what about http://bugs.openembedded.org/attachment.cgi?id=721 ? is this still necessary?
16:53.12CIA-903koen 07org.oe.dev * r315a43a2... 10/packages/glibc/ (11 files): glibc: add DEFAULT_PREFERENCE_sh3 = "-99" to glibc < 2.3.5
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16:53.28koenhey toi
16:55.50mickeylhmm, when is gcc 4.1.1 due?
16:57.17koenlast week
16:57.29mickeylheh
16:57.29koen20060428 iirc
16:57.44mickeylwho's gonna add it?
16:57.56koenis out yet?
16:58.06mickeylno i mean when it's out
16:58.48toiHey Koen, how are you?
16:59.59koenmickeyl: I hope it's a matter of cp, if not -> bero
17:00.06mickeylexcellent
17:00.09koentoi: pretty good, and you?
17:00.17mickeylkoen: should we offer bero commit access?
17:00.26KenJlimekoen: did you already fix the glibc preference issue? :D
17:00.30KenJlimebeen making a bunch of patches
17:00.33koenmickeyl: ah, I knew I forgot to ask you
17:00.45koenKenJlime: scroll up :)
17:01.13KenJlime:D
17:01.31mickeylhow 'bout http://bugs.openembedded.org/attachment.cgi?id=721 ?
17:01.52KenJlimemickeyl: yes that patch is still necessary
17:02.05toikoen: I'm fine, sitting outside in the sun ;-)
17:02.16mickeylKenJlime: k
17:02.23koentoi: I did that this afternoon :)
17:06.03mickeylbbl
17:06.51KenJlimeOki gonna start my rebuild now
17:07.17KenJlimewith any luck it will build nano from scratch without making any noise
17:08.02CIA-903mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rc243286c... 10/packages/glibc/ (glibc-cvs-2.3.5/no-z-defs.patch glibc_2.3.5+cvs20050627.bb): glibc-cvs-2.3.5: build a working glibs for sh4. closes #721
17:09.42KenJlimeCould anyone take a look at #977 , should be pretty easy to fix. Im guessing that the native doesnt include jar
17:13.46koenisn't jar just a fancy gzip?
17:15.16CIA-903coredump 07org.oe.oz354x * re3c01969... 10/packages/keymaps/ (files/poodle/keymap-2.6.map keymaps_1.0.bb): keymaps: Rework Poodle-2.6 keymap
17:15.16likewisejar=zip, not gzip
17:15.20CIA-903coredump 07org.oe.oz354x * rc888a619... 10/packages/linux/ (2 files in 2 dirs): linux: Poodle: Fix keyboard-hotkey driver mapping
17:15.24CIA-903coredump 07org.oe.oz354x * r86a49496... 10/packages/keymaps/files/poodle/keymap-2.6.map: keymaps: Update poodle-keymap to adjust for driver change
17:15.32CIA-903coredump 07org.oe.dev * r90de0b46... 10/packages/keymaps/ (files/poodle/keymap-2.6.map keymaps_1.0.bb): keymaps: Reworked Poodle-2.6 keymap
17:15.40CIA-903coredump 07org.oe.dev * rd357b0f0... 10/packages/linux/ (3 files in 2 dirs): linux: Poodle: Fix keyboard-hotkey driver mapping and update poodle-defconfig
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17:22.51CIA-903coredump 07org.oe.dev * r597fddc6... 10/packages/keymaps/ (files/poodle/keymap-2.6.map keymaps_1.0.bb): keymaps: Update poodle-keymap to adjust for driver change
17:22.55CIA-903coredump 07org.oe.dev * r76e73da6... 10/packages/linux/linux-openzaurus_2.6.16.bb: linux: It helps to actually use the new patch from the previous commit
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17:26.59RPCoreDump|home: I'm out of ideas then. Will have to test it and see if its still working for me..
17:27.36CoreDump|home:\
17:28.00RPCoreDump|home: You did apply that other patch I metioned presumably?
17:28.25CoreDump|homeRP: the other patch is always applied for the 2.6.16 kernel
17:28.58RPah, right. I made them incremental :-/
17:29.03CoreDump|home=)
17:29.07RPI know that one worked
17:29.26CoreDump|homedunno what's wrong
17:31.19RPI'm not going to have time to work on OE/OZ for a while :-(
17:33.20HopsNBarleyhey all.  meta package question:  i easily made an ALLOW_EMPTY package that sucks in various others via RDEPENDS.  now must (understandably) use -force-depends to manipulate the individual packages.  is there any flag on the meta that makes it simply a collection so this is unnecessary?
17:33.25CoreDump|home:(
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18:41.25likewiseall: in conf/machine/ep93xx.conf  IPKG_ARCHS has "armv5te", should it really be there? The EP93xx is v4t, right?
18:43.28gremlin[it]likewise mhh i think u are true ... it's an arm9 ...
18:44.06likewiseyep, arm920t with v4t architecture, not v5t
18:44.26likewisegremlin[it]: have you got a EP93xx board with OE?
18:44.29KenJlimeIts not a bug, its a feature
18:44.58likewiseWho told whom that we are speaking of bugs here :-)
18:45.01gremlin[it]likewise yes about ... i'm working on
18:45.11KenJlime:D
18:45.42likewisegremlin[it]: yes, not yet, or yes I am working on it right now? ;-)
18:46.16gremlin[it]likewise i was working till last week ... probably i restart soon ;)
18:46.53likewisegremlin[it]: Did you ever run OE on the EP93xx? I did not, I am seeking for a quick start here :-)
18:48.01gremlin[it]i was able to build a boostrap-image ... but i was working on a 2.4 kernel for a custo board so i did some tweaks ... when i restart i'll play with kernel 2.6 ...
18:48.22likewisegremlin[it]: I got the 2.6 kernel up and running, just no userspace yet.
18:48.57likewiseWhat did you put in your local.conf? A distro name for the bootstrap image??
18:49.09gremlin[it]familiar-unstable
18:52.56KenJlimeJust wanna say that nano built from scratch without a problem :D
18:53.04KenJlimemickey|bbl:
18:53.05KenJlimekoen:
18:53.39likewisegremlin[it]: thanks
18:54.10gremlin[it]you welcome :)
19:15.30koenlikewise: ooops
19:15.49likewisekoen: oops, v5t?
19:16.05koenyes
19:16.09likewisekoen: ok, check. :-)
19:16.23koenCIA-9: don't be so lazy
19:16.59KenJlimekoen: stuff is working now :D so dont go an commit something that might brake it :P
19:17.06koenKenJlime: :)
19:17.14CIA-903koen 07org.oe.dev * rb2ab2bca... 10/conf/machine/ep93xx.conf: ep93xx: as pointed out on irc, the ep93xx is armv4t, not armv5te. Include tune-arm920t to tell gcc we have thumb as well
19:17.34koenlikewise: there you go
19:17.53woglindekoen rockz
19:19.01likewisekoen: thanks koen. (but I am going to keep my build running anyway :-)
19:20.24koenthe armv5te was only a runtime thing
19:20.36likewisekoen: what's the local.conf with the highest success rate for the GESBC-9312? I am now doing a linux-uclibc, familiar-unstable, bitbake task-bootstrap.
19:21.12likewisekoen: runtime in what sense? (sorry I am still dumb in all this)
19:21.18koenI use DISTRO="angstrom-2006.9" MACHINE="ep93xx" to get an EABI rootfs
19:21.23koenhaven't tried any thing else
19:21.40koenlikewise: IPKG_ARCHS tells the package manager which archs to support
19:21.44gremlin[it]koen : arm920 ... or 926 ????
19:21.51koengremlin[it]: 920
19:21.53likewiseEABI? does it build a softfloat EABI toolchain?
19:21.54gremlin[it]ok
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19:22.01woglindejo zecke
19:22.04koenlikewise: the angstrom one does
19:22.04likewisekoen: or with crunch even?
19:22.06koenhey zecke
19:22.15koenlikewise: crunch is still broken in regular gcc
19:22.18likewiseok
19:22.40likewisekoen: but you do have a GESBC, I remember seeing pictures from your desktop? :-)
19:22.50koenlikewise: I have one
19:23.06koenhttp://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/ep93xx/images/ep93xx-setup_small.jpg
19:23.58likewiseyep, that's the picture. :-) <<<Grrr>>> (nice board)
19:24.27KenJlimekoen: why did you commit a new glibc?
19:24.35KenJlimeor rather replace the old with same
19:24.36koenKenJlime: I did?
19:25.03KenJlimec243286c... /packages/glibc/ (glibc-cvs-2.3.5/no-z-defs.patch glibc_2.3.5+cvs20050627.bb): glibc-cvs-2.3.5: build a working glibs for sh4. closes #721
19:25.07KenJlimeah you just patched it
19:25.18KenJlimeand my installation thought that it was an update so it recompiles it
19:25.30KenJlimeweird
19:26.06koenmickeyl bumped the PR
19:26.34koenthe diff I committed: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/getdiff.py?id1=20d82b867694bc656456a80553cb61e3496c6971&id2=315a43a2834c10ffcb7b5641f22459f878a47297
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19:26.50KenJlimehey nice board
19:27.02florianre
19:27.04koenand mickeyl's diff: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/getdiff.py?id1=cdafdfea115bd337ea8b144f31e6951f530615d2&id2=c243286c01b3794a7ec43b97e5e8786b2d269083
19:27.30woglindehi dlorian
19:33.03florianis it possible to set the SRCDATE of a single package in the command line?
19:33.34koennot that I know off
19:33.56koenI either set a global SRCDATE in local.conf or in the packages itself
19:34.09florianhrm... i'm convinced i asked that before :-/
19:36.22zeckere
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19:42.36koenhttp://www.monoclipse.ch/
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19:53.26zeckenjs: I will consider writing a test case for the integrity_check
19:53.58njszecke: ah, cool, thanks :-)
19:56.03zeckenjs: you could update the quckies as well. pragma integrity and sql escaping are implemented
19:56.25njsyeah, I'm really bad at that :-/
19:56.29njsneed to move them over to the wiki...
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20:01.35floriankoen: you you have a libeventdb_cvs.bb?
20:01.46koenyes
20:02.38floriankoen: i could need this... trying to build familiar packages of latest calendar stuff.
20:03.57koenflorian: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/manifest.psp?id=b2ab2bca0045fae54b5579601c2d549d61295428&path=packages/libeventdb
20:04.02koenit's been in OE for ages
20:04.18florianhrm
20:06.22zeckenjs: the revision 'names' don't change when rosterifying?
20:06.40likewisehmmn, glibc-intermediate won't build for angstrom-20060511
20:06.54florianhrm... that stupid CVSDATE in the distribution seems to override local.conf :-/
20:07.29zeckeflorian: CVSDATE_libeventdb = "other"
20:07.34zeckeit could work :}
20:08.39florianzecke: perfect, that works
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20:09.14koenlikewise: could you pastebin the bitbake summary of 'bitbake foo'?
20:10.43likewisesure
20:10.46likewisehold on
20:11.12zeckenjs: is there a documentation on how cvssync is planned to work?
20:13.09likewisekoen: http://pastebin.com/712171
20:13.47likewisekoen: assuming that's what you mean exactly??
20:14.13koenyes
20:14.28koenI could have sworn I solved the sysdeps/generic/mp_clz_tab.c issue
20:15.15pb_zecke: good evening
20:15.29koenlikewise: I'll check tomorrow when my build is at that point
20:15.48KenJlimekoen: theres a patch for libxcomposite on bugzilla, could you commit it. Its about a broken url nothing major
20:16.33zeckegood nite :)
20:16.34KenJlime#974 & 965
20:16.40KenJlimeduplicate bug report
20:17.12KenJlimezecke: nite man
20:17.23woglindenight zecke
20:17.33zeckeKenJlime: BTW: I agreed on SuperH3 in the subject name
20:17.33likewisekoen: ok, I google some on it
20:17.45zeckeKenJlime: but we could add it to the #Hardware Section as well
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20:17.58zeckeKenJlime: then you could search for bugs Open+Sh3 :)
20:18.33pb_yah, or you could put it in the keywords
20:18.53KenJlimezecke: using "SuperH" in subject name currently, but can use SuperH3 instead :) hardware section would be nice
20:19.54koenlikewise: have a look at http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=741
20:20.12likewisekoen: yes ,was reading it already. different for EABI and oldABI
20:20.16KenJlimeBtw, you know anyone with commit rights thats on at night? :) its usually hard to get anything into the database late at night (Nightowl)
20:21.08KenJlimekoen: you there man?
20:22.41KenJlimepb_ got a sec to commit a fix?
20:22.44koenKenJlime: till navy NCIS starts
20:22.49KenJlime:D
20:23.05KenJlimecould you commit #974 or #965 ? (duplicate)
20:23.06pb_KenJlime: I have the time, but not the privs
20:23.17KenJlime:D
20:23.34zeckepb_: get the privs ;)
20:23.52KenJlimeBtw, just for interest how many people got the commit rights to the database?
20:23.59koenKenJlime: 56
20:24.06zeckeKenJlime: monotone ls keys?
20:24.20koenzecke: that only shows how many people have committed
20:24.50KenJlime56 people, wowsie. Im guessing most isnt on this channel?
20:25.16zeckeKenJlime: looks like :)
20:25.46KenJlime:-P
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20:26.20zeckeokay taking the laptop to bed
20:27.04likewisezecke: it warms the bed quicker
20:27.09KenJlimehehe
20:27.32zeckelikewise: it is a mac, it is heat-less ;)
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20:28.41KenJlimekoen: thx for commiting
20:29.12CIA-903koen 07org.oe.dev * r38c34687... 10/packages/xlibs/libxcomposite_X11R7.0-0.2.2.2.bb: libxcomposite: fix SRC_URI, closes $974
20:29.32KenJlimekoen: you killed #965 also, its a duplicate
20:29.37KenJlime?
20:30.17mreimerkoen: a friend of mine just got a 17" MacBook Pro yesterday. Needless to say, he likes it. :-)
20:30.51koenmreimer: I'm too weak to lug a beast like that around :)
20:30.57mreimer:-)
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20:31.57floriangnaa... my stupid ubuntu has stopped to load any modules :-(
20:32.05koenhopefully they'll release a 12" version that isn't cut down
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20:32.23koenlike the current 12" is: no gbit, no fw800, no dual link dvi, etc
20:33.10radugaand Sharp wants people to think that walking around with a Zaurus is like carrying a dinosaur on your back?!
20:33.22koenmithro's laptop is sweet
20:33.40koen10", 9 hour battery time, pcmcia, wifi, bluetooth
20:34.21floriankoen: do you know the name?
20:34.24woglindekoen hm which model?
20:34.30florianheh
20:34.35koenpanasonic iirc
20:34.42woglindehm panasonic
20:34.47koenonly available in japan
20:34.49woglindenever heard of a panasonic laptop
20:35.21radugai have (or had) a panasonic laptop
20:35.25florianah right, i saw several small ones of them at a local store and cebit
20:35.31radugawoglinde: they are uncommon
20:35.42radugabut panasonic sells one line of laptops in the US/EU
20:35.46radugathe "toughbook" models
20:35.50radugarugged
20:35.56woglindehm oh
20:35.58woglinderight
20:36.02woglindetoughbooks yeah
20:36.09woglindesaw the commerical flashs
20:36.18koenmreimer: how's the r1000.conf coming along?
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20:36.37zeckewoglinde: mithro's laptop is nice
20:36.47zeckewoglinde: it was an eye catcher at the congress
20:37.02woglindezecke *g*
20:37.20KenJlimezecke: any pictures?
20:37.25mreimerkoen: I need to make a .bb that pulls the kernel source from sdg's repo, then we should be good. I started with h2200's conf, since they have the same kind of NAND (512 byte page/16KB block)
20:37.36zeckeKenJlime: none atm
20:38.51koenKenJlime: behind the hands: http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/Gallery/fosdem2006/IMG_2114
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20:40.37KenJlimekoen: looks like a mac laptop of some sort
20:40.51woglindehm who tells samsung that some will buy the umpc in germany for 1200 euros?
20:40.54koenyes, but smaller
20:41.03KenJlimekewl
20:41.18koennext year at fosdem will all be having a olpc ;)
20:41.34florianwith linux :-)
20:42.01zeckerunning QtopiaCore ;)
20:42.02CosmicPenguingood luck
20:42.42koenQtopiaBore
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20:43.41zeckecan you pull from vanille?
20:44.37zeckeidiot <- me
20:45.34woglindezecke monotone 0.26?
20:48.40floriankoen: hmm... i can link some more names to faces :-)
20:50.31zeckekoen: when was SlugDag?
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20:56.12koenzecke: last month or so
20:57.10koenzecke: 20060401
20:59.19koenNCIS time, later all
21:00.54KenJlime~slag powerbook
21:00.59KenJlimehmm
21:01.22KenJlime~slart powerbook
21:01.25KenJlime?
21:04.21CoreDump|homelart it is
21:05.59KenJlimeah right
21:06.08KenJlime~lart powerbook
21:06.13KenJlimeshazbot
21:06.18KenJlime~lart Jornada
21:06.27KenJlimehmm *ponder*
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21:12.30PigiCiao all
21:14.15PigiIs there any known issue with usb on 2.6.16.x AFAYK ?  I can't get usb network up since update of my desktop.
21:14.42florianhi Pigi
21:14.49Pigihi florian
21:15.50woglindepigi did you enable cdc_ether?
21:16.21Pigiso it should. It is the same config from my old 2.6.12 kernel
21:16.35woglindehm
21:17.17JustinPPigi: I had to ugrade my PC's kernel to get it working
21:17.43Pigicd to which kernel version, JustinP ?
21:17.48Pigis/cd/
21:18.32Pigibtw cdcether is there
21:19.56JustinPI'm using 2.6.16 right now
21:20.04JustinPI think you need at least 2.6.15
21:20.40CosmicPenguin~lart xinetd
21:20.42PigiI'm on 2.6.16.2 and lost the connectivity.
21:21.02PigiJustinP, that's why I asked what kernel version you have.
21:21.39PigiI read that usb has some troubles on 2.6.16.2, but it talks about rndis on windows mobile 5 .
21:29.35zeckekoen: ping
21:29.42zeckekoen: could you add sqlite2 cli tool?
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21:43.41koenzecke: done
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21:45.08koenlikewise: I'm now seeing that error as well, will look into that this weekend
21:45.27pb_hi pigi
21:45.35zeckethanks :)
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21:46.34JustinPPigi: ah....not sure if I have .2....I'm using Gentoo sources
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22:18.46likewisekoen: have fixed the issue by a small diff in the arm long long patch.
22:19.44likewisekoen: In the last but one line I have this: #include <stdlib/mp_clz_tab.c>
22:20.50mickey|bblg'night
22:20.57likewisenite
22:24.14CIA-903mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r138de689... 10/packages/libelf/libelf_0.8.6.bb: add libelf 0.8.6
22:24.20CIA-903mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r696c4941... 10/packages/ (3 files in 3 dirs): ltrace: add 0.3.36, bring back from nonworking
22:47.02floriangood night
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