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| 00:37.34 | Zero_Chaos | anyone in here work on openwrt? |
| 00:38.49 | kergoth | not sure. don't think so, though I talked with the openwrt folks long long ago |
| 00:40.00 | Zero_Chaos | I want to do some work and get stuff working, but they use an aweful looking buildroot |
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| 01:08.58 | *** topic/#oe is OpenEmbedded Developer Lounge | OE and bitbake were made to match, keep them both up to date | BitBake 1.4.2 has been released - only use HEAD if you are developing it | this is still not a distribution support channel |
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| 02:13.03 | jacques | hmm |
| 02:13.07 | jacques | wth |
| 02:13.27 | jacques | Fetch failed: http://xorg.freedesktop.org/releases/X11R7.0/src/lib/libXscrnSaver-X11R7.0-1.0.1.tar.bz2 |
| 02:13.36 | jacques | yet the file is actually: |
| 02:13.43 | jacques | http://xorg.freedesktop.org/releases/X11R7.0/src/lib/libXScrnSaver-X11R7.0-1.0.1.tar.bz2 |
| 02:14.09 | jacques | how does that even happen? ppl building exlusively on windows in cygwin or something ? |
| 02:14.52 | jacques | date on file is dec21 2005, so it doesn't seem like the site changed the capitalization recently |
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| 02:29.40 | JustinP | jacques: which branch? |
| 02:30.00 | jacques | uh-oh |
| 02:30.25 | jacques | well, I am using the nslu2-linux branch |
| 02:30.32 | jacques | if that makes any sense |
| 02:30.42 | JustinP | *really*..... |
| 02:30.49 | JustinP | nslu2 was IIRC merged into dev |
| 02:31.30 | jacques | cat MT/options |
| 02:31.30 | jacques | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:31.35 | jacques | that help at all? |
| 02:31.40 | JustinP | then you're using .dev |
| 02:31.44 | jacques | ok :-) |
| 02:32.04 | JustinP | fully up to date? |
| 02:32.14 | jacques | no, it's a couple of days old |
| 02:32.24 | jacques | may 15 |
| 02:32.33 | jacques | about 49 hours old |
| 02:33.30 | jacques | BTW, after I changed the filename on the above and made the .md5 file, it built that package but failed later: NOTE: package libxss-1.0.1-r0: task do_populate_staging: failed |
| 02:33.52 | jacques | NOTE: make DESTDIR=/home/packages/nslu2/mtnA/angstrom/tmp/work/armv5te-linux-gnueabi/libxss-1.0.1-r0/temp-staging install |
| 02:33.52 | jacques | make: *** No rule to make target `install'. Stop. |
| 02:33.57 | jacques | weird |
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| 03:36.13 | jacques | hmm, qemu should probably have been nailed down to a specific date. the patches no longer apply. |
| 03:36.40 | jacques | (trying to build a qemuarm dist) |
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| 05:35.48 | _law_ | qemu-native builds find now, but there is another problem (http://openembedded.pastebin.com/724063) glibc do_package doesnt work |
| 05:42.33 | JustinP | mine worked fine |
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| 07:15.07 | Genesis | yo |
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| 07:48.56 | hrw | hi |
| 07:51.30 | hrw|work | how to 'kill' system? run amarok 1.4 |
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| 08:19.59 | ade|desk | morning all |
| 08:31.07 | Ifaistos | greetings ! |
| 08:32.02 | Ifaistos | Any recommentations on what 'strategy' to follow on system (kernel+fs) updates using ipkg ? |
| 08:32.26 | Ifaistos | write a script that removes old packages and then installs the new ones |
| 08:32.56 | Ifaistos | or create a "mega" package that contains all changed/update packets inside ? |
| 08:33.35 | hrw|work | ipkg update;ipkg upgrade |
| 08:33.50 | hrw|work | its what I do |
| 08:34.13 | hrw|work | if something is extra needed then it is added to task-* packages (task-bootstrap, task-opie-*) |
| 08:34.41 | hrw|work | http://changelog.complete.org/posts/487-Why-I-Like-HP.html |
| 08:35.33 | Ifaistos | hrw | work : what i am looking for is a way to do system update without modyfing the configs |
| 08:36.21 | Ifaistos | hrw | work : and with little user 'help' ;/ |
| 08:36.22 | hrw|work | Ifaistos: ipkg support 'conffiles' which are not changed during update |
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| 08:40.47 | Ifaistos | hrw | work : what about if extra packages need to be added or removed so that the existing system image will be exactly like if you installed it from a 'clean' image ? |
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| 08:42.35 | hrw|work | Ifaistos: create task-ifaistos package which will be installed in every your image. if you need to add something add it into task-ifaistos, bump PR and rebuild. when it will be installed on device new deps will get fetched and installed |
| 08:43.12 | hrw|work | Ifaistos: if something need to be removed add it into conflicts: field of task-ifaistos so user will get notice that upgrade need removal of some stuff |
| 08:47.51 | Ifaistos | hrw | work : should task-ifaistos contain incremental changes between versions or it should contain all ? what i mean is if task-ifaistos-r2 should contain only changes from task-ifaistos-r1 oe or it should contain r0+r1 in case someone with an r0 system does an upgrade ? |
| 08:48.46 | hrw|work | Ifaistos: user will get latest version so.... |
| 08:52.56 | koen | good morning all |
| 08:56.29 | hrw|work | hi koen |
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| 08:57.10 | koen | hey hrw|work |
| 08:57.13 | do13_ | morning all |
| 08:57.26 | hrw|work | hi dirk |
| 08:57.45 | do13_ | hey Marcin |
| 08:58.10 | koen | 2hey dirk |
| 08:58.15 | koen | -2 |
| 08:58.17 | do13_ | hi koen |
| 08:58.34 | Ifaistos | koen : Hi ! |
| 08:58.40 | do13_ | hrw|work: new logo looks good on tosa |
| 08:58.51 | hrw|work | do13_: thx for confirmation |
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| 08:59.00 | hrw|work | do13_: tosa has rotated console? |
| 08:59.04 | Ifaistos | hrw | work : i am looking for something similar to the Debian apt-get dist_upgrade |
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| 08:59.17 | do13_ | hrw|work: no |
| 08:59.33 | hrw|work | Ifaistos: 'ipkg upgrade' - ipkg is 'dpkg + apt-get' all-in-one tool |
| 08:59.53 | hrw|work | do13_: collie/akita has problem with logo - I suspect console rotate ;( |
| 09:00.00 | Terminar | hi |
| 09:00.13 | do13_ | hrw|work: what kind of problem? |
| 09:01.20 | hrw|work | do13_: not booting at all |
| 09:02.05 | hrw|work | do13_: will test with serial cable but not in next 2-4 days rather ;( |
| 09:02.19 | hrw|work | collie/2.6 from OE is too big anyway |
| 09:04.19 | do13_ | hrw|work: did you checked collie/2.6? |
| 09:05.03 | hrw|work | do13_: tried but had not enough time to get booting config |
| 09:08.21 | ade|desk | hrw|work: added a comment to the HP thing :) |
| 09:11.22 | chrisromain | hi all. |
| 09:12.41 | ade|desk | morning |
| 09:14.03 | chrisromain | do13_: tested your 2.6/gpe image on tosa. works perfectly but the light key is seen as down key. moreover, putting Z on sleep is OK but it wakes up by itself after ~10mn |
| 09:16.33 | do13_ | chrisromain: There is a bug in the pm driver. The tosa checks every 10 mins the battery status. If you remove the charger it wil work as expected |
| 09:17.07 | do13_ | chrisromain: I suspect the keymap needs a few tweaks:) |
| 09:17.45 | hrw|work | do13_: guylhem recently post me infos that he will submit fixes for keymap for tosa/2.6 into bugtracker |
| 09:18.01 | do13_ | hrw|work: thx |
| 09:18.24 | chrisromain | do13_: yep. the default keyboard repeat time is too low. |
| 09:18.38 | chrisromain | do13_: ok i'll check that with guylhem |
| 09:18.43 | hrw|work | chrisromain: 'kbdrate' allow to change that |
| 09:19.46 | do13_ | chrisromain: did you checked wifi? |
| 09:23.00 | hrw|work | do13_: if I submitted working version of patch and it got 's-o-b' of maintainer can I use his 's-o-b' when submit cleaned (description) version or not? |
| 09:23.10 | hrw|work | do13_: its my first accepted patch |
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| 09:24.47 | do13_ | hrw|work: can I use his 's-o-b' when submit cleaned (description) version or not?????? |
| 09:25.13 | chrisromain | do13_: does not work. /sbin/usbctl on 1 gives No such file or directory |
| 09:25.40 | do13_ | chrisromain: remove the usbctl lines from /etc/network/interfaces |
| 09:25.50 | lardman|work | morning |
| 09:26.40 | do13_ | hrw|work: I can't understand the last part from your qestion |
| 09:26.54 | chrisromain | do13_: wlan-ng exited with return code 1 |
| 09:26.57 | chrisromain | No such device |
| 09:27.14 | do13_ | chrisromain: do a modprobe ohci-hcd first |
| 09:27.32 | hrw|work | do13_: I sent patch with long description, got 'patch is OK + s-o-b (signed-off-by) line' but also got request of resending patch with cleaned description. now I'm resending patch (cleaned desc) - can I add s-o-b line of maintainer or let he add it once more? |
| 09:29.17 | do13_ | hrw|work: ahhh. I'm not quite sure. I would add his s-o-b line and resend the patch. You should mention the cleaned desc |
| 09:29.38 | chrisromain | do13_: seems to work, have to config my wep key |
| 09:30.25 | do13_ | chrisromain: on suspend you have to remove the ohci-hcd module. otherwise the device will crash |
| 09:31.45 | do13_ | chrisromain: usbctl works only with the 2.4 kernel. We need a replacement for the 2.6 kernel |
| 09:35.57 | chrisromain | do13_: wiki is OK. |
| 09:36.57 | CoreDump|home | morning |
| 09:37.12 | do13_ | chrisromain: thx |
| 09:37.34 | do13_ | hey CoreDump|home |
| 10:05.54 | RP | morning all |
| 10:06.32 | koen | hey RP |
| 10:06.55 | hrw|work | hi RP |
| 10:07.09 | hrw|work | RP: did you tried logo + console rotation? |
| 10:07.24 | RP | hrw|work: no, never tried it |
| 10:11.18 | hrw|work | RP: looks like cxx00 with 640px wide logo are unable to boot |
| 10:11.31 | hrw|work | RP: c7x0 boot nice with same logo patch |
| 10:12.04 | hrw|work | RP: cxx00 with 480px logo boot, reserve space for logo but do not show it |
| 10:12.33 | RP | hrw|work: Sounds like the console rotation code is at fault.... |
| 10:13.02 | zecke | ~praise bluez for messing autoconf |
| 10:13.04 | ibot | All hail bluez for messing autoconf! |
| 10:13.36 | hrw|work | RP: yes. and I remember that you was the one testing it when it was created |
| 10:14.25 | RP | hrw|work: I didn't write though ;-) |
| 10:14.42 | hrw|work | ;) |
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| 10:15.18 | RP | hrw|work: I'll add it to the to look at list but I can't promise when it'll happen |
| 10:15.28 | hrw|work | ok |
| 10:15.44 | hrw|work | RP: I can test it on collie but not before next weekend |
| 10:16.35 | RP | I simply just don't have time for anything atm :-( |
| 10:17.00 | zecke | RP: :( |
| 10:18.51 | RP | hrw|work: If you report it to the fb maintainer on linux-fbdev, he might be able to look at it/fix it |
| 10:19.05 | RP | He wrote the console rotation code |
| 10:20.33 | hrw|work | RP: will do - thx to CoreDump|home I know now that it is in console rotation. |
| 10:21.35 | koen | hrw|work: did you update gpe-bootsplash with the new logo already? |
| 10:22.10 | koen | http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/add-new-splash.diff |
| 10:23.04 | CoreDump|home | ah new bootsplash,nice =) |
| 10:23.32 | hrw|work | koen: not yet |
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| 10:39.36 | hrw|work | RP: http://www.linux-fbdev.org/ is correct place - right? |
| 10:40.49 | hrw|work | RP: ignore - found archive on MARC |
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| 10:52.36 | mickeyl|lunch | hi, and bbl |
| 10:52.57 | RP | mickeyl|lunch: hi and bye :) |
| 10:56.04 | koen | ~bon appetit |
| 10:56.06 | ibot | [bon appetit] smacznego. Guten Appetit. Eet Smakelijk. God Appetitt. Buon Appetito. Buen apetito Bom Apetite. buen apetito |
| 10:56.31 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rb89c24d7... 10/packages/meta/ (3 files): |
| 10:56.31 | CIA-9 | task-opie: add task-opie-everything |
| 10:56.31 | CIA-9 | task-python-sharprom|everything: add python-spyro and python-spydi |
| 10:56.36 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r288e8c6c... 10/packages/python/ (python-imdbpy_2.4.bb python-imdbpy_2.5.bb): python-imdbpy: upgrade to 2.5 |
| 10:56.39 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r12c8ec6e... 10/packages/python/ (python-spydi_0.9.3.bb python-spyro_0.9.14.bb): |
| 10:56.39 | CIA-9 | add python-spydi, a distributed indexer |
| 10:56.40 | CIA-9 | add python-spyro, a distributed ORB |
| 10:56.44 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r759f136b... 10/packages/busybox/ (busybox-1.01/uclibc_posix.patch busybox_1.01.bb): busybox-1.01: improve uclibc-posix patch to not break the glibc build. closes #657 |
| 10:57.26 | RP | mickeyl|lunch: Why task-opie-everything instead of adding an extra task to task-opie? |
| 10:57.39 | RP | er, sorry, ignore me :) |
| 10:58.23 | theturtle | I've put ASSUME_PROVIDED += "qemu-native" in my local.conf, and installed qemu 8.1 with my distro, but i get a NOTE: generating locale es_NI (UTF-8) |
| 10:58.23 | theturtle | qemu: uncaught target signal 11 (Segmentation fault) - exiting when bitbaking glibc... do someone has an idea on what happens ? |
| 10:58.49 | RP | theturtle: qemu segfaulted? |
| 10:59.17 | theturtle | yep sure, but i don't understand why as it is a fresh install, and i don't know how to "dig" to find why it segfaults |
| 11:01.26 | RP | I guess if you found the command it was running that would give you a start at identifying the problem. I know qemu has issues on certain machines but I've never seen anyone pinpoint why... |
| 11:01.57 | theturtle | ok, i'm running on an amd64, that could be the problem |
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| 11:13.04 | Cobelius | Is it possible to configre bitbake that it looks for .bb files in 3 different directories? |
| 11:13.10 | hrw|work | yes |
| 11:13.21 | hrw|work | BBFILES="path1 path2 path3" |
| 11:13.27 | hrw|work | or use collections |
| 11:13.38 | Cobelius | ah okay I tried it with ':' between the pathts |
| 11:14.02 | polyonymous | BBPATH then, I believe? |
| 11:14.33 | hrw|work | BBPATH has nothing to BBFILES |
| 11:15.04 | polyonymous | yes, but the original question was not about BBFILES. |
| 11:15.14 | hrw|work | 18 13:13 < Cobelius> Is it possible to configre bitbake that it looks for .bb files in 3 different directories? |
| 11:15.22 | hrw|work | .bb files == BBFILES |
| 11:16.17 | polyonymous | Ah, yes, .bb files, not all bitbake files.. |
| 11:16.49 | Cobelius | ah okay it seems to work now |
| 11:16.51 | Cobelius | thank you |
| 11:17.05 | polyonymous | hrw, do you think brave soul can try angstrom on spitz now? |
| 11:17.19 | hrw|work | polyonymous: never tried angstrom |
| 11:17.24 | polyonymous | I see. |
| 11:17.38 | hrw|work | polyonymous: no time, no spitz |
| 11:17.47 | polyonymous | Just got back after being away from the net for one month and thought I'd try something new ;-) |
| 11:18.19 | polyonymous | Well, if it compiles, I'll try to see for myself. |
| 11:18.20 | hrw|work | polyonymous: want to look at oz 3.5.4.1-rc4? |
| 11:18.30 | Cobelius | Does somebody know if I can overrive default packages by multiple directories? |
| 11:18.31 | polyonymous | hrw|work, I used to run .dev build |
| 11:19.00 | hrw|work | Cobelius: that need BBCOLLECTION stuff |
| 11:19.25 | polyonymous | But now it just didn't build for me from scratch and instead of trying to fix I thought I'd try angstrom. But I will get back to OZ, anyway, as I'm only going to try angstrom with altboot. |
| 11:20.15 | polyonymous | And month ago I had not problems with unversioned OZ build. Things change ;-) |
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| 11:30.41 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rc1b50bb6... 10/packages/gpe-bootsplash/ (3 files in 2 dirs): gpe-bootsplash: use new OZ logos |
| 11:30.45 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rfcf80f6f... 10/packages/linux/ (5 files in 2 dirs): linux-openzaurus: disabled logo on akita/spitz/poodle - need to find out why 'console rotation + logo == not booting image' |
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| 11:36.08 | zecke | woglinde: hey |
| 11:36.12 | hrw|work | hi woglinde |
| 11:36.16 | zecke | woglinde: I already ordered some stuff from the Thai |
| 11:36.21 | zecke | woglinde: you are welcome to join |
| 11:37.07 | woglinde | hi hrw |
| 11:38.17 | koen | hmmm, thai food |
| 11:38.35 | woglinde | wahah that loosers |
| 11:38.48 | woglinde | insted of a pim application thez ship google talk on the n770 |
| 11:40.30 | woglinde | wahahahahahaha |
| 11:40.31 | woglinde | http://linuxdevices.com/articles/AT2559540724.html |
| 11:40.44 | woglinde | backporting from 2.6 to 2.4.20 |
| 11:41.15 | koen | "Andre adds, "We've seen a lot of devices running Trolltech/Qtopia, but that's not really promoting Linux, because you need to add $30 to $40 to the BOM." |
| 11:42.20 | woglinde | koen is opie running well on the n770 with angstroem as distribution? |
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| 11:46.41 | koen | woglinde: the 770 kernel doesn't build right now |
| 11:46.55 | koen | woglinde: and why would nokia need to put on pim if it isn't a pda? |
| 11:47.17 | koen | we crossed the 100 bug thresshold |
| 11:47.33 | woglinde | koen because otherwise it makes no sin |
| 11:48.01 | woglinde | there is no one who needs a tablet http-brwosing only device |
| 11:48.20 | koen | that's what I'm using it for :) |
| 11:48.39 | woglinde | yeah becaus you have ten other pdas |
| 11:49.04 | koen | I don't use pim on any of the toys lying around |
| 11:49.18 | woglinde | jesus |
| 11:49.20 | woglinde | *g* |
| 11:49.24 | zecke | koen: because syncing is broken :) |
| 11:49.25 | koen | only my nokia ever leaves my desk |
| 11:49.33 | koen | zecke: exactly |
| 11:49.38 | zecke | woglinde: I found the article kind interesting |
| 11:49.39 | koen | zecke: no iSync plugin for opensync |
| 11:49.50 | zecke | woglinde: I wonder about the team size |
| 11:49.54 | woglinde | zecke which one? |
| 11:50.11 | koen | woglinde: did you know that montevista has some minions on staff who's only job is to backpart to 2.4? |
| 11:50.17 | woglinde | hm maybee nokia prefers to use goole-calendar after the talk thing |
| 11:50.35 | zecke | woglinde: probably, google prefers it :) |
| 11:50.59 | zecke | woglinde: and with ajax this is the way to go |
| 11:51.12 | zecke | woglinde: put an interpreter on the phone, let the servers run stuff for you |
| 11:51.47 | woglinde | koen hm yeah I see buisness area if you told your customers that you cannt tkae 2.6 kernel |
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| 11:52.53 | woglinde | hm Harald claims that motorola uses some selinux features on the a780 |
| 11:53.19 | koen | yeah |
| 11:53.26 | koen | locking out costumer |
| 11:53.27 | koen | s |
| 11:53.35 | woglinde | *g* yeah |
| 11:53.47 | zecke | not only |
| 11:53.50 | woglinde | hm dont know why montavista didnt get this idea |
| 11:54.09 | zecke | woglinde: is he finally done with the port? |
| 11:54.22 | woglinde | zecke read the last blog entry |
| 11:54.26 | zecke | woglinde: e.g. implementing the gsm mutliplexer should not take longer than a week |
| 11:54.28 | woglinde | he has problems with some drivers |
| 11:55.06 | woglinde | zecke for you, I dont know if I ever could write a gsm multiplexer |
| 11:56.23 | zecke | woglinde: get drunk, stoned and program with your feets, you can implement any etsi standard... ;) |
| 11:56.51 | koen | that's how they were written after all ;) |
| 11:56.56 | zecke | woglinde: it is raining and my modulator stopped working, is this a coincidence? |
| 11:56.57 | woglinde | zecke I will hire zyou for $ 1000 p.a |
| 11:57.48 | NAbyss | zecke: Sounds like how they designed the standard ;) |
| 11:58.29 | zecke | NAbyss: last summer I sat next to a chairman of a DVB group... |
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| 12:07.50 | NAbyss | zecke: Oh? |
| 12:08.28 | zecke | exactly |
| 12:10.07 | hrw|work | I worked for one of companies which make DVB soft/hard |
| 12:14.27 | _guillermo | zecke: I just posted the pcmciautils patch, could not do it before |
| 12:14.48 | zecke | _guillermo: that is fine |
| 12:14.58 | hrw|work | mickeyl: live? |
| 12:15.21 | mickeyl | kind of |
| 12:15.31 | zecke | mickeyl: hey, did your toy arrive? |
| 12:15.43 | mickeyl | zecke: not exactly... a call did arrive |
| 12:15.50 | mickeyl | "sorry, it's sold out, we can't get it from any distributor" |
| 12:15.59 | mickeyl | then I checked the web again |
| 12:16.01 | zecke | mickeyl: sue them ;) |
| 12:16.03 | mickeyl | and found one who has it in stock |
| 12:16.05 | mickeyl | phoned |
| 12:16.06 | mickeyl | ordered |
| 12:16.10 | mickeyl | now crossing fingers (again) |
| 12:16.48 | zecke | hehe |
| 12:16.57 | zecke | mickeyl: get one of the other linux phones |
| 12:17.19 | zecke | koen: well Qtopia targets these phones as well (from the linuxdevices article) |
| 12:17.22 | mickeyl | zecke: the a780 looks like it will be the best supported in the next months. I don't think there's currently any alternative |
| 12:17.23 | hrw|work | ~lart net connection at work |
| 12:17.46 | zecke | koen: and to save BOM they let the phone stack run on linux directly (most of the time) |
| 12:17.53 | mickeyl | wth is BOM btw.? |
| 12:17.58 | zecke | koen: and then you get to fear manipulation.. |
| 12:18.02 | zecke | mickeyl: Bill of Material |
| 12:18.06 | mickeyl | aaah |
| 12:18.12 | zecke | mickeyl: or like jg said it, Your saussage recipe |
| 12:18.23 | zecke | receipe... |
| 12:18.24 | mickeyl | i don't find this andre guy very convincing, btw. |
| 12:18.25 | zecke | as.. |
| 12:18.26 | zecke | well |
| 12:18.43 | zecke | mickeyl: in what way? |
| 12:19.10 | mickeyl | zecke: his blaming X and Qtopia sounds to me like he just didn't want to really take a look, but work on an own UI. |
| 12:19.24 | mickeyl | just my intuition |
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| 12:19.33 | zecke | mickeyl: no |
| 12:19.35 | peterbrett | Hey folks |
| 12:19.44 | zecke | mickeyl: they have real time requirements |
| 12:19.45 | peterbrett | Any OZ types around? |
| 12:19.54 | mickeyl | peterbrett: probably in #openzaurus |
| 12:19.54 | hrw|work | peterbrett: no :D |
| 12:19.55 | zecke | mickeyl: because they want to save money for two distinct cpus ;) |
| 12:20.19 | peterbrett | peterbrett: Ah right, the person who told me to ask here was lying then :P |
| 12:20.36 | mickeyl | yeah. #openzaurus really is the OpenZaurus support channel |
| 12:20.49 | mickeyl | #oe contains few OZ people, but is probably not the right channel |
| 12:21.18 | mickeyl | unless you are a developer and want to chat about .bb's with me |
| 12:21.22 | mickeyl | or hrw :) |
| 12:21.26 | mickeyl | or whoever |
| 12:21.54 | peterbrett | mickeyl: I might want to chat about bb's with you later :P |
| 12:22.41 | mickeyl | excellent :D |
| 12:23.06 | mickeyl | RP: thanks for assisting in trying to convince ;) |
| 12:23.57 | RP | mickeyl: np. his reply suggests he's seeing the light ;-) |
| 12:25.03 | mickeyl | hehe *nod* |
| 12:25.39 | mickeyl | I'm afraid I will have to touch Opie again |
| 12:25.44 | mickeyl | to add support for the MOTO. |
| 12:26.12 | mickeyl | with 48MB RAM and 240x320 touchscreen it really looks like Opie would be the preferred GUI |
| 12:26.36 | mickeyl | at least until our super-duper Opie2 is ready |
| 12:27.19 | RP | mickeyl: If they do need help doing things with the kernel, let me know as I've been there before with new devices :) |
| 12:27.58 | RP | I like opie, Its just a shame it involves trolltech :-/ |
| 12:28.15 | mickeyl | http://lists.gnumonks.org/pipermail/openezx-devel/2006-May/000325.html |
| 12:28.27 | mickeyl | RP: already tried to advertise you and the linux-openzaurus |
| 12:28.35 | mickeyl | RP: with mixed success as you can see in this thread :) |
| 12:28.51 | mickeyl | RP: we have to be a bit slow with Harald... he's one of those kernel developers with an ego :)) |
| 12:28.57 | mickeyl | i like him though. |
| 12:29.44 | zecke | mickeyl: an 'ego' |
| 12:29.49 | _guillermo | I get this copmpiling gpesyncd: gpesyncd/po/POTFILES.in |
| 12:29.55 | _guillermo | is missing |
| 12:30.03 | zecke | RP: Yeah a shame that Qt is an addictive drug |
| 12:30.04 | mickeyl | _guillermo: sounds like you need to report that to GPE |
| 12:30.04 | _guillermo | is it a bug? |
| 12:30.09 | _guillermo | ok |
| 12:30.10 | RP | I don't understand why these people don't just puhs all their code |
| 12:30.10 | RP | mainline |
| 12:30.21 | zecke | _guillermo: since yesterday, if you want something stable use Opie |
| 12:30.21 | mickeyl | heh, he got that wrong. |
| 12:30.30 | RP | That made me smile - hes probably using half my patches :) |
| 12:30.43 | mickeyl | right. i guess he was just a bit overwhelmed by the number of patches in linux-openzaurus.bb :) |
| 12:30.47 | _guillermo | zecke: you love opie sooo much :) I need gpe! |
| 12:31.06 | RP | mickeyl: Compare it with the git one for an idea of what's been merged :) |
| 12:31.39 | zecke | _guillermo: you don't need GPE for java ;) |
| 12:31.47 | zecke | _guillermo: use matchbox and your apps |
| 12:31.50 | mickeyl | RP: yay! |
| 12:32.02 | zecke | _guillermo: didn't you have that error yesterday already? |
| 12:32.16 | _guillermo | I don't use gpe, just a modificated gpe-image |
| 12:32.32 | zecke | _guillermo: remobe gpesyncd as it is broken? |
| 12:32.42 | zecke | pb_: could you fix that autotools stuff? |
| 12:33.12 | RP | mickeyl: and some of the patches in -git are in -mm or other places with merging pending. Someday we *will manage a mainline kernel :) |
| 12:34.09 | zecke | mickeyl: hehe, yeah PXA270 worked out of the box, we will stick with mainline.. |
| 12:34.20 | zecke | yeah thanks to RP it is working out of the box :} |
| 12:34.36 | _guillermo | zecke: sometimes I use gpe-images to be sure it's not my custom image what fails |
| 12:34.57 | _guillermo | zecke: any sucess with java and opie? is kaffe-qt usable? |
| 12:34.59 | zecke | I get annoyed by the continous OE breakgae of GPE |
| 12:35.07 | zecke | _guillermo: no it isn't |
| 12:35.34 | zecke | need to work... |
| 12:35.41 | zecke | later guys |
| 12:35.48 | zecke | mickeyl: good luck with your phone |
| 12:36.04 | zecke | mickeyl: I think I will have a motorola soon as well |
| 12:36.21 | mickeyl | zecke: cool! which one? |
| 12:36.22 | _guillermo | zecke: would be possible using jamvm-gtk and e-image? what graphic implementation is enlightment using? |
| 12:36.30 | mickeyl | zecke: cu |
| 12:36.36 | hrw|work | cu zecke |
| 12:36.55 | RP | later zecke |
| 12:36.56 | hrw|work | _guillermo: own one |
| 12:37.13 | _guillermo | too bad |
| 12:37.44 | _guillermo | is the motorola a780 working with oe? |
| 12:37.46 | mickeyl | RP: atm. i'm mainly interested in getting the patches for a full fledged kernel completed. We can check later if it would make more sense to just enhance linux-openzaurus. i really don't like all the different kernels |
| 12:38.17 | mickeyl | _guillermo: i just added basic OE support. we need some more weeks until the kernel runs, but then we have Opie and GPE and E on the a780 :D |
| 12:38.32 | mickeyl | although E will probably suck |
| 12:38.32 | mickeyl | herh |
| 12:38.46 | _guillermo | that sounds great, anyone knows if it's available in germany? |
| 12:38.55 | mickeyl | _guillermo: if you HURRY up, yes |
| 12:39.08 | mickeyl | i had to run through hoops to order one |
| 12:39.21 | mickeyl | ARP DATACON (http://www.arp.com) seems to have some in stock - |
| 12:39.21 | _guillermo | ops you were talking before ablut that one |
| 12:39.30 | mickeyl | ya |
| 12:39.42 | koen | mickeyl: ah, it seem the resident trolltech troll is on the ezx list as well |
| 12:39.52 | mickeyl | koen: hehe. indeed. i was very surprised :) |
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| 12:40.27 | pb__ | hi mickeyl |
| 12:40.47 | _guillermo | mickeyl: I will ask you whenever you get it to see how it feels |
| 12:41.03 | pb__ | zecke: which autotools stuff? |
| 12:41.03 | mickeyl | i think it's just important to have one "reference phone" with full OE support to improve the OE value for phone developers. |
| 12:41.06 | mickeyl | hi pb_ |
| 12:41.18 | mickeyl | although that will cost me 480 EUR |
| 12:41.20 | mickeyl | *sniff* |
| 12:41.23 | zecke | pb__: gpesyncd/po/POTFILES.in |
| 12:41.25 | mickeyl | and probably my wife will kill me for that |
| 12:41.34 | zecke | pb__: looks like some one is referencing this file |
| 12:42.05 | pb__ | okay |
| 12:42.12 | pb__ | gpesyncd scares me a bit but I will take a look |
| 12:42.24 | koen | pb__: florian already fixed it iirc |
| 12:42.32 | RP | mickeyl: Agreed, a phone in OE would be great |
| 12:42.44 | pb__ | ah, even better |
| 12:43.14 | pb__ | zecke: it seems I am too slow |
| 12:43.29 | zecke | why is OE broken then ;) |
| 12:43.40 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r1313f63a... 10/packages/zsh/zsh_4.1.1.bb: zsh: do not ship zsh as symlink to builddir |
| 12:43.43 | koen | pb__: http://handhelds.org:8080/gpe/chngview?cn=2005 |
| 12:43.46 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r8e42a379... 10/packages/zsh/zsh_4.1.1.bb: zsh: do not ship zsh as symlink to builddir |
| 12:43.54 | pb__ | zecke: dunno, I guess oe must suck |
| 12:44.10 | zecke | pb__: right, give me your key and it will instantly suck less |
| 12:44.47 | zecke | koen: *firewalled*... |
| 12:45.04 | _guillermo | how important is the motorola movement toward opensource for oe? any impact? |
| 12:45.04 | koen | zecke: "Comment: Remove unused gettext bits breaking builds." |
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| 12:48.08 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r3ce424d5... 10/conf/distro/angstrom-2006.9.conf: angstrom 2006.9: slide srcdate forward to avoid some build problems |
| 12:48.27 | hrw|work | NOTE: package zsh-4.3.2-r0: task do_build: completed |
| 12:48.29 | hrw|work | someone? |
| 12:50.11 | mickeyl | :)) |
| 12:50.13 | mickeyl | me too |
| 12:51.01 | koen | a phone which can't even make calls yet ;) |
| 12:51.25 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 12:51.32 | mickeyl | http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=19465 |
| 12:51.53 | mickeyl | for calls, i have my trusty k700 |
| 12:51.57 | zecke | mickeyl: I had offered harald help on the ccc congress in december |
| 12:51.57 | mickeyl | everything else is for fun |
| 12:52.07 | koen | siemens s55 :) |
| 12:52.35 | mickeyl | zecke: ah, did you tell him about OE then? |
| 12:52.41 | zecke | mickeyl: mailed him |
| 12:52.53 | zecke | mickeyl: I was hacking in the 'main' room while he gave his talk |
| 12:52.59 | koen | as I want to run X on the phone |
| 12:53.01 | zecke | pretty good speaker this guy is |
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| 12:53.38 | mickeyl | unfortunately it looked like they had to spend a lot of time convincing MOTO to release stuff |
| 12:53.39 | koen | mickeyl: don't forget to post a message on the angstrom site |
| 12:53.44 | mickeyl | it's sad that's always such a struggle :/ |
| 12:53.56 | mickeyl | koen: righto, will do |
| 12:55.31 | zecke | mickeyl: it might have been lost in the mail (... my offer to help) |
| 12:55.47 | zecke | mickeyl: he should be in berlin (when he is not traveling) |
| 12:55.53 | mickeyl | zecke: possible. then again, as he said, he wasn't interested in userland until pretty recently |
| 12:56.10 | mickeyl | zecke: oh cool, that would make visiting you even more interesting. we could maybe arrange a meeting |
| 12:57.05 | mickeyl | zecke: you could have a look at my Embedded Linux / OE book plans, if you have time and motivation. I just have done an expose |
| 12:57.50 | zecke | hehe |
| 12:58.02 | zecke | turn in your expose until... |
| 12:58.23 | koen | zecke: 'apple + backtic' |
| 12:58.39 | mickeyl | do that. as i will be an OSX user later this year as well... |
| 12:58.42 | koen | that's F10, but easier :) |
| 12:58.54 | hrw|work | life suxx |
| 12:58.59 | mickeyl | hrw|work: nah |
| 12:59.00 | mickeyl | what's up? |
| 12:59.36 | hrw|work | nothing - I'm sitting at work bored |
| 12:59.52 | mickeyl | hrw|work: i can understand that. I'm not coming forwards here. :/ |
| 12:59.53 | chouimat | morning |
| 13:00.02 | mickeyl | in, even |
| 13:00.16 | zecke | mickeyl: I can offer you a bed to sleep |
| 13:00.20 | zecke | nothing fancy though |
| 13:00.31 | mickeyl | zecke: cool, thanks. I don't need luxury :) |
| 13:00.32 | zecke | mickeyl: you might even go to ROAD... |
| 13:00.34 | mickeyl | yeah |
| 13:00.57 | mickeyl | they need to be kicked because of missing q1/2006 |
| 13:01.21 | zecke | well if Big Company needs 2 years... |
| 13:01.38 | zecke | then a Small Company with award winning software needs half of it ;) |
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| 13:03.02 | hrw|work | mickeyl: 3.5.4.1-rc4 for testing |
| 13:04.10 | mickeyl | hrw|work: *nod* |
| 13:04.24 | zecke | I missed something... |
| 13:05.00 | zecke | hrw|work: that is understandable, take a rest, you deserve it |
| 13:05.08 | mickeyl | hrw|work: i was in that position 6 months ago |
| 13:06.33 | mickeyl | hrw|work: let's meet in winter in Berlin. I all goes well, we may have a couple of opportunities then |
| 13:06.47 | mickeyl | s/I/if/ |
| 13:07.06 | hrw|work | http://video.i123.pl/play/282/Pelenie_zielska__reportaz_ |
| 13:07.31 | zecke | hrw|work: I have bed for you as well :} |
| 13:07.43 | zecke | hrw|work: or you need to share it with mickeyl |
| 13:07.49 | mickeyl | heh |
| 13:08.01 | mickeyl | i can as well sleep on the floor. I'm tough. |
| 13:08.26 | mickeyl | :D |
| 13:08.28 | zecke | I hope you have no cat allergy |
| 13:08.34 | hrw|work | zecke: I will go with Ania |
| 13:09.14 | mithro | does anyone know really cheap picoControllers? Something which costs the order of 10's of cents? |
| 13:10.02 | hrw|work | !_split-to-feeds.sh script rox |
| 13:10.02 | cdbot | hrw|work: Don't know, don't care |
| 13:10.14 | hrw|work | cdbot: fsck you |
| 13:10.15 | cdbot | hrw|work: Dunno? |
| 13:13.44 | hrw|work | mickeyl: rc4 built - http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/3.5.4.1-test/.rc4/ |
| 13:16.17 | theturtle | could someone give me an approximation of 'bitbake gpe-image' on a decent cpu please ? (amd64x2) |
| 13:16.23 | mickeyl | hrw|work: noted. |
| 13:16.27 | theturtle | *time approximation sorry |
| 13:16.36 | zecke | theturtle: billions of cyclons |
| 13:16.37 | mickeyl | theturtle: 2-3 hours |
| 13:16.44 | zecke | cycles |
| 13:16.45 | zecke | ... |
| 13:16.48 | theturtle | mickeyl : ok thanks |
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| 13:20.15 | mickeyl | hrw|work: do you have a moment of spare time? |
| 13:20.32 | mickeyl | (for reading a toc) |
| 13:20.45 | hrw|work | http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=19464&st=0&p=127594&#entry127594 |
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| 13:20.47 | hrw|work | mickeyl: sure |
| 13:21.45 | theturtle | intltools seem to lack a dependency on libxml-parser-perl |
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| 13:22.45 | mickeyl | hrw|work: mail sent. thanks |
| 13:23.33 | theturtle | i got "/home/theturtle/ipaq/tmp/work/armv5te-linux/libxml-parser-perl-2.34-r0/temp/run.do_configure.3716: line 377: /home/theturtle/ipaq/tmp/staging/arm-linux/perl/config.sh: No such file or directory" is there a way to know which package should provide this config.sh file ? |
| 13:24.18 | polyonymous | I'd guess perl itself. |
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| 13:27.20 | hrw|work | mickeyl: basically: OK, add "Network Attached Storage" to list in chapter 2 |
| 13:28.53 | mickeyl | hrw|work: ah right |
| 13:29.41 | mithro | hrm osef doesnt appear to work for me :/ |
| 13:29.56 | mickeyl | mithro: goes up and down like an elevator atm. |
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| 13:30.43 | mithro | who run it? |
| 13:30.56 | hrw|work | offroadgeek |
| 13:31.00 | hrw|work | ~oesf |
| 13:31.04 | ibot | methinks oesf is newer name of ZUG - it provide forum for Zaurus/Ipaq/Simpad/etc users (see zug). It has nothing common with OpenEmbedded (except first two words), or http://www.oesf.org/ |
| 13:31.52 | hrw|work | ~lart subversion for lack of check of ^C |
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| 13:37.29 | cbrake | koen: thx for idea about cherokee -- I'll check it out ... |
| 13:39.15 | hrw|work | http://ja.rafi.pl/2006/05/18/lifes-too-short-for-the-wrong-job/ - great photos |
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| 13:42.45 | theturtle | I get "checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool" though i've bitbaked libxml-parser-perl and libxml-parser-perl-native. How can i go through ? |
| 13:43.02 | Crofton | Jan Ulrich is getting lots of air time at the moment |
| 13:43.16 | mithro | anyone here done stuff with power switching? |
| 13:44.04 | cbrake | any ideas where to find the "stat" command in OE? I think rsync is needing it. |
| 13:45.33 | cbrake | I guess that would be the stat package :-) |
| 13:51.24 | polyonymous | I'd guess it's coreutils, but that would be just a guess ;-) |
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| 13:56.09 | Bernardo | hi |
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| 13:56.41 | hrw|work | hi Bernardo |
| 13:58.00 | KenJlime | hey |
| 13:58.37 | KenJlime | hrw|work: could you please commit the new jlime-donkey distro file. Just wanna get it in so I can start testing stuff |
| 14:00.48 | KenJlime | koen: or if you can |
| 14:00.54 | hrw|work | KenJlime: which bug it was? |
| 14:01.01 | KenJlime | let me check |
| 14:01.12 | theturtle | when bitbaking intltools, configure script is complaining about missing XML::Parser though it is installed. Any idea on why it happens ? |
| 14:01.25 | KenJlime | #1002 |
| 14:01.43 | hrw|work | got it |
| 14:02.37 | KenJlime | thx |
| 14:02.52 | hrw|work | will push in minute(s) |
| 14:03.03 | KenJlime | Roger |
| 14:05.28 | hrw|work | pushed |
| 14:05.52 | KenJlime | hrw|work: did you push it against the dev branch? |
| 14:06.27 | KenJlime | doing monotone update gives me a message about multiple heads |
| 14:06.43 | hrw|work | will merge |
| 14:07.01 | KenJlime | oki thx |
| 14:07.05 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r1335c60a... 10/packages/pipepanic/pipepanic_0.1.1.bb: pipepanic: add all files - taken from .dev |
| 14:07.09 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r93a7ad23... 10/conf/distro/jlime-donkey.conf: jlime-donkey: new distro - close #1002 |
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| 14:08.03 | hrw|work | pushed again |
| 14:08.08 | KenJlime | oki, will check |
| 14:08.09 | hrw|work | ~lart me for not merging |
| 14:09.01 | KenJlime | worked fine now, big rhx |
| 14:09.03 | KenJlime | thx |
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| 14:09.41 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * re2cc7feb... 10/packages/intltool/intltool_0.35.0.bb: intltool: add dep on xml-parser(-native) |
| 14:10.43 | theturtle | koen : seems there's a deeper trouble with xml-parser |
| 14:11.36 | Bernardo | chouimat: modern version of sisifo's myth? |
| 14:11.41 | theturtle | koen : see http://pastebin.com/724600 |
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| 14:12.34 | chouimat | Bernardo: hehe ... you this kind a lot of money but an amoeba has more brain cells ... so apt to use a computer |
| 14:12.36 | theturtle | so configure script of intltool is failing as perl -e "require XML::Parser" fails |
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| 14:14.08 | Bernardo | chouimat: I did helldesk a few years back... Third line support |
| 14:14.10 | Bernardo | chouimat: and believe it or not, many times I'd ask the user to check the power plug... |
| 14:15.09 | koen | the people on the ezx list are frightingly cluefull |
| 14:15.53 | chouimat | Bernardo: I did helpdesk for a cable company ... so I know that one too ... |
| 14:17.08 | Bernardo | I did it for fellow programmers and for our company customers... |
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| 14:21.26 | chouimat | Bernardo: after doing this (helpdesk) I really think that this is right: "Give fire to a man and you will keep warm for a day, Put a man on fire and you will keep him warm for life" |
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| 14:26.58 | lardman|work | chouimat: what about 'for the rest of his life' |
| 14:27.38 | chouimat | lardman|work: can work too ... but I find it more funnier the way I wrote it ;) |
| 14:27.40 | theturtle | is there a way to set library path for bitbake and oe environment ? |
| 14:28.45 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r1cc5c103... 10/packages/intltool/intltool_0.35.0.bb: intltool: remove dep on xml-parser since it doesn't build |
| 14:29.37 | koen | NOTE: package gpesyncd-0.0+cvs-20060518-r0: task do_build: completed |
| 14:30.19 | theturtle | koen : seems to be a simple library path problem, perl loads XML::Parser, which requires libexpat.so.0, which is in tmp/staging/x86_64-linux/lib/libexpat.so.0, but it can't find it |
| 14:30.32 | ixoth | i've done LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/oe/build/zaurus26/tmp/staging/x86_64-linux/lib bitbake opie-image and now it finds it |
| 14:30.35 | theturtle | but i have no idea on how to fix it |
| 14:30.47 | theturtle | ixoth : will try that |
| 14:32.55 | theturtle | ixoth : it works now, thanks, simple LD path problem |
| 14:33.36 | ixoth | yes, but the problem is that we should incorporate this so that it finds this lib by itself |
| 14:35.16 | theturtle | yep, but don't see how to do that |
| 14:35.50 | theturtle | it's a more general perl-native related problem |
| 14:35.59 | theturtle | should also fail with other libs |
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| 14:36.03 | ixoth | i think it should be done somewhere inside bitbake |
| 14:36.55 | ixoth | but i have no idea where... perhaps some bb guru should find the right way to do it |
| 14:37.15 | ixoth | and, in the meantime, we have to use this kludge |
| 14:38.26 | theturtle | ixoth : it could be fixed temporarly in bb file perhaps |
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| 14:40.54 | koen | mickeyl: it seems harald is getting into OE now :) |
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| 14:43.29 | joshin | Where can I download bitbake? I can't seem to connect to svn://svn.berlios.de? |
| 14:44.06 | koen | joshin: http://developer.berlios.de/project/filelist.php?group_id=2701 |
| 14:44.19 | joshin | Thanks! |
| 14:45.19 | joshin | Hmmm, can't connect to the server... |
| 14:46.23 | koen | it seems berlios is down (again) |
| 14:47.06 | mithro | hey mickeyl, how did you ever start writing books? |
| 14:47.08 | mithro | :) |
| 14:48.42 | ixoth | and another problem that I have building org.openembedded.dev from scratch |
| 14:50.02 | ixoth | in package libopieobex0-1.2.1, in Makefile, there's wrong (supposedly) include path |
| 14:50.14 | mickeyl | mithro: As a child, I've always been praised for my essays. I enjoy writing. Years later, I wanted to read a good Python GUI book... when I didn't find one, I said, "Hey, I can do that.". And so it began. |
| 14:51.11 | ixoth | so we have to change -I$(OPIEDIR)/noncore/net/opietooth/lib for -I$(OPIEDIR)/include/opietooth |
| 14:52.33 | koen | and mickeyl lived happily ever after |
| 14:52.39 | mickeyl | heh |
| 14:52.46 | mickeyl | i hope so... atm. I'm pretty unhappy |
| 14:52.50 | hrw|work | cu |
| 14:52.53 | koen | hrw|work: cu |
| 14:52.54 | mickeyl | cu hrw |
| 14:53.01 | koen | hrw|work: your phone will arrive soon ;) |
| 14:53.05 | koen | ehm |
| 14:53.10 | koen | s/hrw/mickeyl/ |
| 14:53.18 | mickeyl | hehe. if it was just that ;) |
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| 14:56.26 | joshin | So what are the odds of getting a working Collie image using gcc4.1? |
| 14:56.45 | joshin | ^getting^building |
| 14:57.23 | mickeyl | hmm do we have gcc4.1 in OE ? |
| 14:57.29 | mickeyl | if not, I'd say chances are pretty low |
| 14:57.44 | mickeyl | hmm looks like we have. |
| 14:57.54 | mickeyl | i'd rather use 4.2-snap though. 4.1 has some oddities |
| 14:58.03 | mickeyl | that's why we are waiting for 4.1.1 |
| 14:58.59 | ixoth | and.... hmm... anyone tried to build uclibc image? is it worth trying? |
| 14:59.47 | joshin | Ok, I dusted off my poor old collie and figured that I should see what's new since I last played with oe/bitbake. |
| 15:00.26 | mickeyl | ixoth: i think so. It's a bit orphaned in OE atm., but it'd be cool to have a more lean-and-mean setup for small systems. |
| 15:00.32 | mickeyl | really small, that is |
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| 15:00.46 | mickeyl | a Zaurus w/ 4Gig Harddrive is no longer considered small |
| 15:01.07 | joshin | I'll try 4.2. (Not even my most riced gentoo install is running 4.2.) |
| 15:01.29 | ixoth | Well, I'm happy poodle user and i consider that whole system should run out of internal flash :) |
| 15:01.40 | mickeyl | *nod* |
| 15:01.55 | ixoth | no extra storage, except for data (mp3/movies/etc) |
| 15:02.02 | mickeyl | i'll have a go at building uclibc as well asap |
| 15:02.51 | ixoth | i'll try to build this as soon as i finish experimenting with 2.6 |
| 15:03.05 | ixoth | goodbye everyone... |
| 15:04.34 | koen | mickeyl: http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2006-05/msg00416.html |
| 15:05.04 | mickeyl | yay |
| 15:05.36 | koen | ugh: http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2006-05/msg00404.html |
| 15:05.38 | theturtle | cya |
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| 15:11.55 | joshin | So what's down with berlios? |
| 15:12.16 | woglinde | joshin maybee traffice problems |
| 15:15.37 | koen | mickeyl: NOTE: package gcc-cross-4.1-20060512-r1: task do_compile: started |
| 15:16.12 | mickeyl | *crossing fingers* |
| 15:17.27 | woglinde | hm new gcc? |
| 15:17.29 | woglinde | why? |
| 15:17.38 | joshin | Is there a mirror to berlios? I wanna play too... |
| 15:17.39 | koen | choice |
| 15:18.01 | woglinde | or are there new features? |
| 15:18.13 | koen | true eabi and 114 bugs less |
| 15:18.37 | mickeyl | http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-4.1/changes.html |
| 15:19.05 | koen | mickeyl: did you see http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/images/mtn_cheat_sheet.png in monotone's monotone repo? |
| 15:19.14 | woglinde | hm yes I know that, but I meaned to the others 4.1 gcc's |
| 15:20.02 | mickeyl | koen: ya, that's pretty cool. we should have something like that for OE |
| 15:22.12 | giel | hm |
| 15:22.16 | giel | where do i find mount? |
| 15:22.37 | koen | syslinux? |
| 15:22.51 | mickeyl | busybox or util-linux |
| 15:22.52 | giel | oh, that's only native? |
| 15:22.57 | giel | ah util-linux |
| 15:22.57 | giel | thnx |
| 15:26.18 | koen | NOTE: package gcc-cross-4.1-20060512-r1: task do_build: completed |
| 15:26.27 | Kristoffer | :D |
| 15:26.29 | Kristoffer | nicy |
| 15:26.45 | Kristoffer | anyone got any stats for speed improvments 4.1 over 3.4.x |
| 15:28.20 | woglinde | kristoffer mostly there is no one who thinks about smart benchmark tests |
| 15:31.20 | Kristoffer | woglinde: oki, just wondering cause any speed improvment on the jornada is a big improvment.. 133Mhz isnt that fast :D |
| 15:31.30 | Kristoffer | heard some rumors about it a couple of months ago |
| 15:31.43 | woglinde | kristoffer maybee you will think about some benchmark tests |
| 15:32.13 | Kristoffer | woglinde: hmm, will do a testa build and see what I can come up with |
| 15:32.35 | woglinde | hm in opie are some drystone-tests |
| 15:32.46 | woglinde | dont know if they really says something |
| 15:38.25 | joshin | cool koen! |
| 15:38.54 | woglinde | ah koen: gratz |
| 15:41.05 | Kristoffer | gratz? |
| 15:41.26 | woglinde | kristoffer < koen> NOTE: package gcc-cross-4.1-20060512-r1: task do_build: completed |
| 15:41.52 | Kristoffer | ah yeah |
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| 15:46.03 | woglinde | jo chouimat |
| 15:46.14 | Kristoffer | multiple heads when doing monotome update |
| 15:46.27 | koen | try doing a pull first |
| 15:46.43 | Kristoffer | just did |
| 15:50.48 | Kristoffer | koen: nevermind, my stupid mistake |
| 15:53.40 | Kristoffer | monotone -db=OE.db checkout --branch=org.openembedded.dev |
| 15:53.41 | Kristoffer | (17:53:25) TheCan: monotone: misuse: branch org.openembedded.dev has multiple heads |
| 15:55.07 | Kristoffer | how "good" is it to do a monotone merge? |
| 15:57.17 | woglinde | kristoffer if you only want to check out choose some of the revs |
| 15:57.28 | woglinde | if you will commit wait until someone has fix it |
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| 15:58.04 | Kristoffer | woglinde: I know man :D this is just a general question on what merge does (although I have a pretty good guess) |
| 15:58.38 | NA|Zzz | Kristoffer: It only affects your local checkout, so no biggie there |
| 15:59.51 | koen | mickeyl: did you buy a 680 or 780? |
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| 16:17.09 | mickeyl | koen: a780. i think it looks more slick |
| 16:17.15 | mickeyl | besides, it has a better camera |
| 16:17.28 | mickeyl | 680 advantage is full SD |
| 16:17.32 | mickeyl | a780 only miniSD |
| 16:17.40 | mickeyl | like the nokia |
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| 16:23.05 | mickeyl | a1200 definitly cooler, but a780 will have better support for quite some time |
| 16:23.11 | mickeyl | depends on what you want to do with ti |
| 16:23.11 | mickeyl | it |
| 16:25.54 | koen | mickeyl: I don't buy phones to take pictures |
| 16:26.34 | mickeyl | fair enough. supportwise they're pretty close |
| 16:26.48 | koen | I think I'll go for the a780 |
| 16:27.07 | koen | in case I'm stupid enough to put keys + phone in one pocket |
| 16:27.17 | mickeyl | right |
| 16:27.58 | koen | 206 euro is still expensive, but justifiable |
| 16:28.13 | Genesis | bye |
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| 16:32.05 | mickeyl | absolutely |
| 16:32.12 | mickeyl | which canadians btw.? |
| 16:32.19 | mickeyl | ah hi-mobile.net |
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| 16:32.31 | Bernardo | re |
| 16:32.34 | mickeyl | yo Bernardo |
| 16:32.43 | Bernardo | hi mickeyl |
| 16:32.47 | ade|desk | koen: where are you buying from ? |
| 16:33.12 | koen | ade|desk: hi-mobile.net |
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| 16:33.24 | Bernardo | ~lart msft isa proxy |
| 16:37.34 | Bernardo | koen: any idea if they'll deliver the phones with different localizations? |
| 16:37.54 | koen | Bernardo: no idea |
| 16:39.07 | ixoth | Whoa!! I've just flashed my poodle with 2.6 and it works!!! |
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| 16:39.11 | mickeyl | congrats |
| 16:39.14 | ixoth | well, at least it boots |
| 16:39.56 | koen | http://lists.gnumonks.org/pipermail/openezx-devel/2006-May/000403.html |
| 16:40.16 | Bernardo | koen: ok, thanks. I just wish I'd seen that site before buying my w900, maybe I'd have bought a moto a780 or a1200 instead |
| 16:40.18 | mickeyl | :D |
| 16:40.30 | koen | I just heard of it today |
| 16:40.44 | koen | (via the above ezx mailinglist) |
| 16:41.05 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 16:41.06 | mickeyl | excellent. |
| 16:41.16 | mickeyl | task-bootstrap w/ OS=linux-uclibc still compiles |
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| 16:42.38 | koen | mickeyl: it'd be nice is uclibc works with X and E |
| 16:42.53 | mickeyl | yeah |
| 16:42.57 | koen | I know gpe still has a lot i18n stuff un-ifdeffed |
| 16:43.19 | Bernardo | I do like my w900, I just wish it had linux instead of symbian UIQ |
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| 16:48.43 | koen | mickeyl: don't forget to tell the ezx people about softfpa vs hardfpa |
| 16:49.52 | koen | mickeyl: before people start blaiming OE for float problems |
| 16:49.56 | mickeyl | heh |
| 16:50.38 | mickeyl | i don't think there will be any problems, because the qte on the device is totally incompatible anway |
| 16:50.57 | koen | yes, but they had a debian rootstrap to test with earlier |
| 16:51.14 | mickeyl | ah right. I will tell 'em. |
| 16:51.15 | koen | and haralds mail just says that the OZ one is smaller |
| 16:51.37 | koen | thanks |
| 16:51.47 | koen | saves me a mailinglist subscription ;) |
| 16:51.55 | joshin | koen, how goes the 4.1 buile? |
| 16:52.32 | koen | gcc-cross built fine |
| 16:52.41 | koen | I'm now trying to build a bootstrap-image with it |
| 16:52.59 | koen | crap |
| 16:53.04 | koen | bitbake is broken |
| 16:53.16 | koen | it doesn't build default_pref=-1 stuff anymore |
| 16:53.45 | koen | which makes the shell a bit useless... |
| 16:54.05 | ade|desk | uclibc svn doesn't compile a toolchain :( .. 0.9.28 works with gcc4 ... i still need to put some uclibc stuff into gcc4.1 though |
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| 16:56.37 | ade|desk | ~change 269 usd to gbp |
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| 17:12.39 | mickeyl | ade|desk: please do, that'd be cool |
| 17:12.46 | mickeyl | I'll test a uclibc for opie-image on collie since long |
| 17:13.04 | mickeyl | hrw|gone: rc4 opie-image looks good so far |
| 17:13.16 | mickeyl | hrw|gone: spitz, that is |
| 17:13.27 | ade|desk | i need to back out the thumb crap from uclibc svn too |
| 17:14.04 | ade|desk | i dont think that it has patched correctly for a long long time |
| 17:14.20 | koen | thumb would be a bit useless on collie |
| 17:15.01 | ade|desk | thumb is a bit useless in sh3,4 x86 , mips etc |
| 17:17.08 | likewise | koen: :-) |
| 17:18.03 | likewise | can someone do a "your-target-objdump -x librsvg.so | grep NEEDED" on some OE built librsvg? |
| 17:27.01 | mickeyl | i can... give me some minutes to build it |
| 17:27.11 | koen | same here :) |
| 17:27.42 | ade|desk | right hometime ... cya folks |
| 17:27.46 | mickeyl | cu ade |
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| 18:03.27 | DukeD | Hey everyone |
| 18:06.45 | DukeD | I just want to say I am not a system developer, just a user. Was reffered here to ask about a problem I am having. Problem: I have Zaurus C860, I just changed background to dark color and I noticed that it looks strange. I mean it seems as though I can see it refreshing the image... You know those florecent lights, when they are about to go out they look brighter and darker.. well this looks like this somewhat, anyone have advice for me? Is this so |
| 18:08.41 | koen | DukeD: I think you'd want #openzaurus |
| 18:09.59 | DukeD | eh, thanks, worth a try |
| 18:10.03 | likewise | mickeyl: I am not currently building, so I have patience :-) |
| 18:10.07 | likewise | koen: I am not currently building, so I have patience :-) |
| 18:10.29 | mickeyl | likewise: that thing has a multitude of dependencies :D |
| 18:10.34 | mickeyl | building arts atm. |
| 18:10.44 | mickeyl | libart, even |
| 18:10.58 | likewise | mickeyl: cairo? |
| 18:11.07 | mickeyl | dunno. i just said bitbake libsrvg |
| 18:11.15 | mickeyl | or rsvg |
| 18:11.48 | raduga | what duked is referring to, is a flickering behavior, of the LCD, that seems to show up in some roms, and some circumstances, and not others |
| 18:11.58 | likewise | mickeyl: thanks. It's just that I think there are some "weak" dependencies, libraries that are only needed for some of it's functions. |
| 18:12.03 | raduga | er, not LCD, flickering of the backlight |
| 18:12.16 | raduga | ive seen it before, but I'm not sure what causes it, or if its cause to be concerned at all |
| 18:12.28 | mickeyl | there are some values you can write to some sys file |
| 18:12.30 | mickeyl | i dunno them offhand |
| 18:12.33 | mickeyl | RP would know |
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| 18:14.17 | koen | raduga: switch to images, you can't fix roms, since they are read only |
| 18:14.57 | DukeD | How do you mean koen? |
| 18:15.18 | koen | mickeyl: the gcc 4.1 snapshot seems to work: NOTE: package glibc-2.4-r5: task do_populate_staging: started |
| 18:15.29 | mickeyl | very cool, koen |
| 18:16.09 | mickeyl | NOTE: package librsvg-2.11.1-r0: task do_compile: started |
| 18:16.11 | mickeyl | ... |
| 18:16.22 | koen | mickeyl: gcc 4.x is a nice excuse to dump some legacy apps |
| 18:16.27 | mickeyl | heh |
| 18:16.29 | mickeyl | *opie* ? |
| 18:16.31 | mickeyl | or what |
| 18:16.54 | koen | the plethora of qt/e hacks that haven't seen improvement since 2002 |
| 18:17.07 | mickeyl | yeah... it's just that they are still used |
| 18:17.34 | koen | most of them have usuable and maintained alternatives |
| 18:18.07 | raduga | koen: can we dump 2.4 already? |
| 18:18.08 | koen | any volunteers to add armv5te asm to liboil and evas? |
| 18:18.12 | raduga | is that legacy enough? |
| 18:18.30 | koen | raduga: depends on your machine |
| 18:18.36 | koen | OE != OZ |
| 18:18.44 | koen | I can't repeat that enough |
| 18:19.07 | joshin | koen, yes you can. You shouldn't have to, but you can certainly repeat it too much. |
| 18:19.10 | raduga | koen: i wasn't referring to OZ specific things though, |
| 18:19.19 | raduga | koen: i was being a snide, and unhelpful remark. |
| 18:19.28 | raduga | koen: sorry, if you haven't put me on ignore yet :( |
| 18:19.30 | mickeyl | likewise: here we go |
| 18:19.31 | mickeyl | http://oe.pastebin.com/725024 |
| 18:19.34 | mickeyl | bbl |
| 18:20.15 | likewise | mickeyl|dinner: bon appetit. |
| 18:20.20 | joshin | Anyone know when/if berlios is going to come back up? |
| 18:20.27 | likewise | mickey|dinner: bon appetit. |
| 18:20.32 | likewise | mickey|dinner: and thanks |
| 18:20.58 | koen | likewise: I suspect libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 is dragging in X |
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| 18:22.41 | likewise | koen: yep, I think so too. It's gtk+, and there are other parts there that need X. Although I do not think gdk_pixbuf needs X per se. |
| 18:23.10 | koen | likewise: it shouldn't, but iirc it's part of the gtk+ package, which does have deps on X |
| 18:23.31 | likewise | koen: Anyway: I plan on upgrading librsvg first, to one that doesn't depend on libart, but on cairo instead. |
| 18:23.44 | koen | likewise: patches to make libgdk a seperate package will be gladly accepted :) |
| 18:23.46 | likewise | koen: yes, I think we are saying the same regarding deps on X. |
| 18:24.43 | likewise | koen: sure, I plan on doing this in OE. It's just that I need to learn how to do it. Yesterday I did it the old fashioned way (fooling libtool and pkg_config and all that) and it sucked big time. |
| 18:25.14 | likewise | koen: there is a glib dependency in librsvg too, it's not the easiest package... |
| 18:25.23 | koen | glibc doesn't depend on X |
| 18:25.25 | koen | ehm |
| 18:25.27 | koen | glib |
| 18:25.50 | koen | glib is mostly a convinience API for type and file access |
| 18:26.10 | likewise | glib: no but glib is not easy to fool into cross-compiling AFAIK. Or was it librsvg's dependency on glibc. I don't know anymore... |
| 18:29.20 | koen | damn canadians being slow |
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| 18:43.08 | ade|desk | howdy again |
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| 18:50.39 | ade|desk | oooooh spot the guy who got caught out doing apt-get -y upgrade |
| 18:50.44 | ade|desk | mtn 0.26 oops |
| 18:54.44 | likewise | koen: huh? what are you waiting for from the Canadians/ |
| 18:55.36 | ixoth | weird stuff... my org.oe.dev opie-image with 2.6 boots on poodle, but quickly consumes disk space on root fs... anyone encountered the same problem or i have to figure out things myself? |
| 18:59.01 | likewise | koen: is the EOS 20 yours? |
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| 19:17.56 | cedric | hi all |
| 19:18.04 | likewise | hi |
| 19:18.40 | cedric | ~seen RP |
| 19:18.44 | ibot | rp is currently on #gpe #oe #openzaurus #handhelds.org. Has said a total of 149 messages. Is idling for 6h 36m 12s, last said: 'mickeyl: Agreed, a phone in OE would be great'. |
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| 20:06.11 | sws | hi |
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| 20:06.56 | sws | i just tried to build oz354x bootstrap-image with kernel 2.6 and it failed compiling qemu, I dont need qemu can I disable it? |
| 20:18.09 | hrw | hi |
| 20:19.04 | woglinde | re hrw |
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| 20:29.08 | zecke | re |
| 20:29.17 | zecke | koen: we have a manual on OE :} |
| 20:29.28 | zecke | koen: kergoth did write it once up on a time |
| 20:33.13 | Kristoffer | btw, wheres kergoth gone? havent seen him in ages |
| 20:33.27 | zecke | Kristoffer: he moved from florida to a dessert |
| 20:33.35 | woglinde | arizona |
| 20:33.45 | woglinde | if i remeber correctly |
| 20:33.45 | kergoth | mn -> tx -> mn -> az |
| 20:33.46 | zecke | human |
| 20:33.50 | woglinde | hehe |
| 20:33.53 | woglinde | hi kergoth |
| 20:34.03 | woglinde | mn minnesota? |
| 20:34.04 | zecke | kergoth: hey, do you have the docbook source for the manual? |
| 20:34.05 | kergoth | it wont drop below 100F until next week sometime, if then. |
| 20:34.09 | hrw | http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=19475 |
| 20:34.15 | kergoth | and its only may :\ |
| 20:36.00 | JustinP | kergoth: where abouts? |
| 20:37.02 | kergoth | suburb of phoenix, working in scottsdale atm |
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| 20:38.49 | zecke | BTW: I have a 2GB RAM P4 machine for doing builds now |
| 20:38.52 | Kristoffer | :D |
| 20:39.11 | woglinde | zecke he |
| 20:39.23 | zecke | woglinde: only 3.7GHz |
| 20:39.30 | zecke | woglinde: and it lacks a second cpu... |
| 20:39.40 | woglinde | zecke where did you get it |
| 20:39.55 | zecke | woglinde: Aldi North |
| 20:39.59 | zecke | woglinde: well it has no public IP |
| 20:40.01 | woglinde | jesus |
| 20:40.06 | woglinde | not a medion |
| 20:40.25 | zecke | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:40.33 | zecke | woglinde: I can use it for network simulations etc... |
| 20:41.14 | zecke | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:45.43 | eFfeM | hi, anyone an idea on what can be wrong here? I just updated my sources to the latest version. Now it is hanging in NOTE: package glibc-2.3.5+cvs20050627-r6: task do_populate_staging: started |
| 20:45.43 | eFfeM | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:45.44 | JustinP | and I still have a <1GHz Celeron |
| 20:45.44 | JustinP | kergoth: ick...Phoenix is *hot* |
| 20:46.32 | JustinP | eFfeM: usually takes a while for that to start |
| 20:48.17 | eFfeM | JustinP: I know, I've been waiting for quite a while (didn't time); and when running top I see that make is on top and on every refresh the pid is 200 or so higher than the previous time |
| 20:48.44 | JustinP | ::shurg:: |
| 20:48.52 | JustinP | wait for 10-15m |
| 20:49.00 | JustinP | is your CPu waiting for IO a lot? |
| 20:49.35 | eFfeM | waited already for 30 mins or so, just saw the pid number wrapping around, it is now at do_package |
| 20:50.26 | eFfeM | it's not very busy with the hard disk |
| 20:51.03 | eFfeM | this is on a 3 Ghz dual core pentium with 2GB of mem |
| 20:51.47 | woglinde | effem nothing |
| 20:51.58 | woglinde | to build the locales packages take so much time |
| 20:52.52 | JustinP | eFfeM: look at the wait % in top |
| 20:53.41 | eFfeM | woglinde: i know, I've built several times before, but it was never this long |
| 20:54.18 | woglinde | effem are you bilding opnzaurus? |
| 20:54.20 | eFfeM | JustinP: Cpu(s): 48.5% us, 3.7% sy, 0.0% ni, 47.2% id, 0.5% wa, 0.2% hi, 0.0% si |
| 20:54.30 | eFfeM | woglinde: no, openslug |
| 20:55.15 | eFfeM | locales does not seem to be the bad guy: NOTE: generation of binary locales disabled. this may break i18n! |
| 20:56.37 | pb_ | yah, it doesn't build locales during do_populate_staging anyway. that happens during do_package. |
| 20:57.05 | pb_ | staging is basically just "make install". |
| 20:57.30 | pb_ | package is longer because (even without binary locales) it involves a lot of file manipulation |
| 20:57.31 | eFfeM | at some point it went to do_package, perhaps |
| 20:57.46 | eFfeM | at some point it went to do_package |
| 20:57.50 | eFfeM | (no perhaps) |
| 20:57.51 | pb_ | ah |
| 20:58.12 | pb_ | oh, right, sorry, I didn't notice you said that before |
| 20:58.22 | eFfeM | np |
| 20:59.06 | eFfeM | i'll wait it out, but thought something changed as things seem a lot slower |
| 21:03.08 | eFfeM | finished, packaging did take a lot less time than staging |
| 21:11.01 | woglinde | effem maybe the last time you had have something in the ccache |
| 21:11.30 | zecke | hmm lack of time :( |
| 21:12.24 | zecke | woglinde: I need to get a new disk :( |
| 21:12.39 | woglinde | zecke I told you that |
| 21:12.55 | koen | hmmm |
| 21:13.02 | koen | NOTE: package glibc-2.4-r5: task do_populate_staging: started seems to hang |
| 21:14.06 | zecke | lol |
| 21:14.14 | zecke | woglinde: the new paulana advertising is funn |
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| 21:15.10 | zecke | rwhitby: your autobuilder uses the Makefile only and runs make update ; make openslug; sleep 10; make... regulary? |
| 21:15.15 | woglinde | zecke hm I rarely look tv these times |
| 21:16.06 | zecke | woglinde: Oliver Kahn says: "Die Bank ist der schoenste Platz" (the bench is the most beautiful place) |
| 21:16.13 | hrw | buildmachines... |
| 21:16.14 | zecke | woglinde: after having looked at the breast of the waiter |
| 21:16.14 | rwhitby | zecke: the autobuilder checks every 15 minutes, and if there is no autobuil running then it starts one. It is an incremental build of all distros and optware packages from CVS in serial order. |
| 21:16.41 | zecke | rwhitby: what do I need to 'clone' it :) |
| 21:17.08 | rwhitby | it's two shell scripts and a crontab. |
| 21:17.27 | rwhitby | (plus the top-level Makefile which you can get from the org.nslu2-linux.dev branch) |
| 21:17.41 | zecke | highly non trivial things :) |
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| 21:19.05 | rwhitby | zecke: msg me an email address and I'll forward them to you |
| 21:20.07 | koen | hrw, zecke: OE doesn't like the new autoconf debian pulled in, so you need to bitbake -b autoconf-native |
| 21:20.32 | zecke | koen: hmm |
| 21:20.40 | zecke | koen: but we do that on build anyway? |
| 21:21.05 | koen | zecke: no, since automake needs autoconf on the host before OE builds autoconf-native |
| 21:21.38 | rwhitby | zecke: see PM |
| 21:22.30 | eFfeM | koen, wrt your 23.13 note on glibc: is this your observation or did you get that from somewhere? |
| 21:22.42 | koen | eFfeM: observation |
| 21:22.46 | eFfeM | eventually it finished for me, it seems to invoke nested makes |
| 21:22.56 | eFfeM | i think it took me more than 1 hr |
| 21:23.11 | koen | it was at that point before 'thunderheart' started |
| 21:23.23 | hrw | koen: thats why I got problem... |
| 21:23.25 | koen | I'll leave it running overninght |
| 21:24.32 | zecke | koen: hmm that is bad |
| 21:24.57 | hrw | koen: so now we have dependency chain... automake-native need autoconf-native which need automake-native |
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| 21:25.05 | hrw | s/chain/loop |
| 21:25.16 | koen | we always had |
| 21:25.27 | eFfeM | i got out of it, might be when the pid wrapped |
| 21:25.31 | hrw | koen: not if autoconf/host worked |
| 21:25.47 | koen | hrw: indeed |
| 21:25.54 | eFfeM | calliing it a day... |
| 21:26.26 | lamikr | koen: I saw from irc log that you plan to buy a780. Is it possible to install gpe on it? |
| 21:26.40 | hrw | koen: when day will get 48h I will work out tool to check does tools which OE need exist on host and build if not |
| 21:26.51 | koen | lamikr: it should be |
| 21:27.42 | lamikr | nice, is there info from the flashchip? |
| 21:28.01 | koen | lamikr: yes, but the ezx people are working from sd first |
| 21:28.58 | woglinde | night hrw |
| 21:29.00 | lamikr | Yes, that's smart. |
| 21:29.05 | koen | 'night hrw |
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| 21:48.42 | lamikr | koen: One big change is happened btw. in every cvs url that points to sourceforge. After moving the cvs services to new hardware, they changed the names. Address cvs.sourceforge.net/xanadux is now for example xanadux.cvs.sourceforge.net/xanadux |
| 21:50.21 | koen | lamikr: feel free to push the change in .dev |
| 21:50.49 | lamikr | koen: I will. |
| 22:01.05 | zecke | lamikr: see the fetcher report for other failing sources |
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| 22:02.57 | lamikr | zecke: In mailing list? |
| 22:03.06 | zecke | lamikr: yes, or I can put a updated version on ewi |
| 22:04.20 | koen | zecke: surfnet should be the fastest sf.net mirror |
| 22:04.35 | CoreDump|home | hi |
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| 22:04.49 | koen | zecke: the uni has a 20Gbit uplink to that mirror :) |
| 22:04.51 | koen | hey CoreDump|home |
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| 22:05.00 | zecke | koen: ah good |
| 22:05.34 | koen | 'surfnet' is the name for the network between the 12 dutch universities |
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| 22:07.56 | woglinde | koen the name in germnay is DFN |
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| 22:08.05 | woglinde | deutsches forschungs netz |
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| 22:08.19 | zecke | where vanille is hosted at |
| 22:08.22 | koen | :) |
| 22:08.33 | koen | the NDIX used to be down the street |
| 22:08.38 | koen | till they moved it |
| 22:09.07 | koen | Nederland - Deutchland internet exchange |
| 22:09.27 | koen | which should have a big link to the dfn |
| 22:12.49 | zecke | I still hope to get tickets for the WM :} |
| 22:13.26 | Ken|JLime | zecke: hockey as already begun :-P |
| 22:13.55 | zecke | Ken|JLime: it was too easy to get tickets ;) |
| 22:14.36 | Ken|JLime | :-D |
| 22:15.50 | zecke | woglinde: when will we see us? |
| 22:17.54 | woglinde | zecke dont know |
| 22:18.04 | woglinde | I will go to bed now |
| 22:18.06 | zecke | woglinde: you need money, I need that folder :) |
| 22:18.20 | woglinde | hm I need the macpro |
| 22:18.22 | woglinde | hahahahahaaaa |
| 22:18.35 | zecke | woglinde: pro? |
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| 23:43.10 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r8d2aa23a... 10/conf/distro/ezx.conf: ezx.conf: add stuff for uclibc builds (uncommented atm.) |
| 23:43.29 | mickey|dinner | g'night |
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| 23:55.20 | Ken|JLime | Anyway to set a default optimization on a specific package? |
