| 00:00.23 | zecke | http://www.cs.utah.edu/~danderse/dnard/dnard-2.jpg |
| 00:01.09 | cyrilRomain | oh god, it looks like a 2001 space odysee machine ! |
| 00:02.05 | cyrilRomain | ;) |
| 00:02.18 | zecke | 75% |
| 00:06.45 | zecke | got a coredump? |
| 00:06.46 | cyrilRomain | laugh not accepted ;) |
| 00:06.53 | zecke | gdb ipkg coredump |
| 00:06.56 | zecke | bt |
| 00:07.08 | zecke | well I can p,b,c,r ;) |
| 00:07.13 | cyrilRomain | zecke: i tried 'gdb ipkg-cl' |
| 00:07.22 | cyrilRomain | zecke: then run -f blabla |
| 00:07.23 | cyrilRomain | bt |
| 00:07.42 | cyrilRomain | ouch #0 0xb7e3fa5a in memcpy () from /lib/libc.so.6 |
| 00:08.09 | zecke | hmm then use valgrind |
| 00:08.09 | zecke | much better in this case |
| 00:08.12 | cyrilRomain | http://oe.pastebin.com/742062 |
| 00:08.34 | cyrilRomain | I try 'gdb ipkg-cl coredump' right now |
| 00:09.38 | cyrilRomain | same |
| 00:11.24 | zecke | valgrind --tool=memcheck --num-callers=20 ipkg ... |
| 00:11.33 | zecke | wow 100% |
| 00:11.43 | cyrilRomain | cool |
| 00:11.46 | cyrilRomain | thanks |
| 00:16.19 | cyrilRomain | hum ... I'll re-run it with '> dump', so many LEAK SUMMARY and ERROR SUMMARY ! |
| 00:16.51 | cyrilRomain | it ends with http://oe.pastebin.com/742076 |
| 00:17.47 | zecke | cyrilRomain: the ending is not interesting the errors are |
| 00:17.57 | cyrilRomain | yes, -v ! |
| 00:17.59 | zecke | cyrilRomain: it is unlikely to segfault using valgrind |
| 00:18.19 | zecke | the ERROR invalid read of size 4 |
| 00:18.22 | zecke | is more interesting |
| 00:18.59 | cyrilRomain | it has segfaulted though |
| 00:20.14 | zecke | then it is really bad :) |
| 00:24.55 | cyrilRomain | with -v: http://oe.pastebin.com/742089 |
| 00:25.33 | cyrilRomain | not more informative for my eyes :-/ |
| 00:26.15 | zecke | well just copy everything... |
| 00:26.36 | zecke | the end is not interesting... |
| 00:30.11 | cyrilRomain | http://oe.pastebin.com/742098 |
| 00:30.19 | cyrilRomain | well I think the beginning lack |
| 00:30.34 | cyrilRomain | s/lack/is missing |
| 00:31.14 | cyrilRomain | (top of console buffer), redirection fail... I'll try with `` |
| 00:32.13 | zecke | is it too hard to run valgrind |
| 00:32.14 | cyrilRomain | hum ... does not work with valgrind `ipkg...` > dump |
| 00:32.18 | zecke | and paste the complete log? |
| 00:32.53 | cyrilRomain | ah, --log= :) |
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| 00:38.47 | cyrilRomain | uploading 800k dump |
| 00:39.15 | cyrilRomain | AAhhhhaaAAHaAhhh : Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 8388608 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 1863613 bytes) |
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| 00:43.05 | cyrilRomain | so the start: http://oe.pastebin.com/742105 and the end: http://oe.pastebin.com/742104 |
| 00:44.22 | v8jlene | Ken|JLime: I put that commit example on my wiki - just for future reference and while I had the example handy: http://oe.twibble.org/mediawiki/index.php/Working_with_Monotone |
| 00:45.55 | zecke | cyrilRomain: this lock looks torally fucked up... |
| 00:46.01 | zecke | how many runs did you mix? |
| 00:46.04 | zecke | cyrilRomain: one run |
| 00:46.05 | zecke | no -v |
| 00:46.08 | zecke | attach the log |
| 00:46.13 | zecke | or file a bug at hh.org on ipkg |
| 00:47.58 | cyrilRomain | zecke: well, one run but true with -v |
| 00:48.01 | zecke | anyway cya |
| 00:48.10 | cyrilRomain | yes, good night |
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| 01:03.28 | likewise | cyrilRomain: found something else? :-) |
| 01:18.31 | CIA-9 | 03kristoffer 07org.oe.dev * rf4b1b8ad... 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 01:18.32 | CIA-9 | jlime-donkey.conf: Updates distro file |
| 01:18.32 | CIA-9 | * gcc 4.1.1 |
| 01:18.32 | CIA-9 | * opie version 1.2.2 + include file |
| 01:18.32 | CIA-9 | linux-jlime-sh3-2.6.11/defconfig_jlime: fixes build issues |
| 01:18.32 | CIA-9 | * Removed i2c support and one wifi card. |
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| 01:23.45 | emte | interesting, jlime must not have a decent lithion monitor |
| 01:24.01 | Ken|JLime | emte: ? |
| 01:24.39 | emte | most common lithion monitoring chips are i2c |
| 01:25.12 | emte | few are onewire, but in most cases i2c is moreefficent for multiple devices |
| 01:25.56 | Ken|JLime | aha, this build error is probobly more due to us using gcc 4.1.1, or somewhat atleast |
| 01:25.58 | emte | probably a few rare spi ones around still as well |
| 01:27.03 | v8jlene | Ken|JLime: Have you tested a kernel built with gcc 4.1.1 yet? I know that sh kernels don't work with 4.0... don't think I've seen anyone try 4.1 yet. |
| 01:27.25 | Ken|JLime | 4.1.1 works perfect |
| 01:27.27 | emte | jnc was messing with it a while ago to make it work |
| 01:27.37 | Ken|JLime | 4.0.x though is shitty |
| 01:27.58 | emte | odd, i thought it was the reverse |
| 01:28.12 | Ken|JLime | used 3.4.4 before, and had a couple of segfault issues with it |
| 01:28.16 | Ken|JLime | got fixed with 4.1.1 |
| 01:28.28 | v8jlene | Ken|JLime: I'll have to give it a go on my sh4 board then. |
| 01:28.49 | Ken|JLime | v8jlene: do that, builds for sh3 (and works good) so shouldnt be a problem for sh4 |
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| 01:34.41 | CIA-9 | 03kristoffer 07org.oe.dev * r2ed8309a... 10/packages/pcmcia-cs/ (pcmcia-cs-3.2.8/superh-noO3.patch pcmcia-cs_3.2.8.bb): |
| 01:34.41 | CIA-9 | packages/pcmcia-cs/pcmcia-cs-3.2.8/superh-noO3.patch: Lowers Optimization |
| 01:34.41 | CIA-9 | * Sets -O2 instead of -O3 (otherwise 'pcrel too far' error) |
| 01:34.41 | CIA-9 | packages/pcmcia-cs/pcmcia-cs_3.2.8.bb: Including patch for sh3 |
| 01:34.41 | CIA-9 | * Sets usage of patch specific to sh3 |
| 01:45.44 | Ken|JLime | koen: you awake man? |
| 01:45.59 | [g2] | Ken|JLime I think he's sleeping |
| 01:46.09 | Ken|JLime | Just read the oe mailinglist |
| 01:46.16 | Ken|JLime | whats up with that handhelds.org thing? |
| 01:46.41 | [g2] | I dunno, I haven't seen the ml |
| 01:47.29 | Ken|JLime | Enough is enough -- you are no |
| 01:47.29 | Ken|JLime | longer welcome here. You may no longer utilize handhelds.org or the services |
| 01:47.29 | Ken|JLime | that it provides in any manner. |
| 01:47.41 | Ken|JLime | pretty harsh words |
| 01:47.57 | emte | umm who stated that? |
| 01:48.08 | Ken|JLime | George France |
| 01:48.08 | Ken|JLime | Director |
| 01:48.08 | Ken|JLime | Handhelds.org, Inc. |
| 01:48.21 | emte | then the lawyers made thier decision |
| 01:48.52 | Ken|JLime | this "conflict" been in the making awhile then? |
| 01:49.09 | Ken|JLime | says something about giving koen "several warnings" |
| 01:49.30 | emte | yes, a few months now |
| 01:49.46 | emte | odd, i dont have taht messsage from the oe list |
| 01:49.58 | emte | what is the title? |
| 01:50.04 | [g2] | what's the date and time ? |
| 01:50.05 | Ken|JLime | Sent : Sunday, May 28, 2006 1:32 AM |
| 01:50.10 | CoreDump|afk | Re: newly built h3900 image fails booting... |
| 01:50.10 | Ken|JLime | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:51.21 | emte | hmm |
| 01:51.25 | emte | i dont have it ... |
| 01:52.04 | CoreDump|afk | emte: http://openembedded.pastebin.com/742181 |
| 01:52.18 | emte | thnks |
| 01:52.32 | emte | i wonder if my mailserver is holding it for soem reason |
| 01:53.02 | Ken|JLime | whats the main issue of this conflict? |
| 01:53.21 | emte | personal attacks |
| 01:53.55 | CoreDump|afk | no virus, no spamassassin tags |
| 01:54.43 | emte | might just be load qued on the mail server |
| 01:55.31 | CoreDump|afk | or a problematic postfix filter ? ;) Man I sure hate those |
| 01:55.45 | CoreDump|afk | s/postfix/procmail |
| 01:56.24 | emte | if it were my actuall server i'd check |
| 01:56.41 | emte | its a hosted service tho |
| 01:56.47 | CoreDump|afk | i c |
| 01:57.15 | CoreDump|afk | well, maybe, just maybe oe should look for another webserver... |
| 01:57.18 | emte | too many problems with telus and running certain servers on res accounts |
| 01:57.45 | emte | that message looked like it regarded only one person |
| 01:57.55 | CoreDump|afk | correct |
| 01:57.56 | emte | it wasnt addressed to the projects |
| 01:58.59 | CoreDump|afk | meh qemu-nate in .oz354x if b0rked |
| 02:00.26 | emte | few more min |
| 02:01.35 | CIA-9 | 03kristoffer 07org.oe.dev * rb4098f1c... 10/site/sh3-linux: |
| 02:01.35 | CIA-9 | site/sh3-linux: Makes lzo build nicely |
| 02:01.36 | CIA-9 | * addition of ac_cv_sizeof_char_p=${ac_cv_sizeof_char_p=4} |
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| 02:16.02 | kergoth | ~botmail for zecke: finally got wiki.openembedded.org pointed at the berlios site. let me know if you need anything else done, dns wise |
| 02:19.04 | [g2] | doh! |
| 02:19.13 | [g2] | fscking tab complete |
| 02:19.15 | kergoth | hehe. hey [g2]. how ya been? |
| 02:19.27 | [g2] | that's who I was aiming for :) |
| 02:19.37 | [g2] | kergoth I'm quite well thx and you ? |
| 02:21.07 | [g2] | kergoth I've just build a Dapper Live CD that runs OE out of the box |
| 02:21.31 | [g2] | just wget the nslu2-linux Makefile, have some storage and build |
| 02:21.48 | kergoth | very nice |
| 02:22.02 | kergoth | doing pretty well here, though somewhat annoyed by the politics involved in working on a government project |
| 02:22.28 | [g2] | heh... You know there are only two phases of a govt project :) |
| 02:22.37 | [g2] | a) too early to tell |
| 02:22.43 | [g2] | b) too late to stop |
| 02:22.45 | [g2] | :0 |
| 02:22.47 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:23.29 | kergoth | ugh, we've got so much ada in the tree, it scares me |
| 02:23.31 | kergoth | :) |
| 02:23.43 | [g2] | it'd scare me too :) |
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| 02:25.27 | emte | atleast being gov you dont have to worry about money or deadlines :P |
| 02:25.56 | [g2] | emte no, just contract renewals |
| 02:26.26 | [g2] | and _THE MAN_ :) |
| 02:26.33 | emte | lol |
| 02:29.29 | CoreDump|afk | n8 all |
| 02:29.40 | [g2] | nite |
| 02:30.13 | CIA-9 | 03coredump 07org.oe.oz354x * r39fec794... 10/packages/fbset/ (fbset_2.1.bb files/makefile.patch): fbset: Do not hard-code arm-gcc |
| 02:30.17 | CIA-9 | 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * r9163a4b2... 10/packages/fbset/ (fbset_2.1.bb files/makefile.patch): fbset: Do not hard-code arm-gcc |
| 02:38.23 | v8jlene | Coredump creates multiple heads and then runs away... Nice one ;) I'll merge. |
| 02:47.02 | Ken|JLime | haha |
| 02:50.51 | kergoth | emte, heh, the deadlines are very tight, highly schedule driven |
| 02:56.49 | Ken|JLime | calling it a night, cya tommorow |
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| 03:09.14 | mithro | hey peeps |
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| 03:35.06 | CSMan_ | hey guys |
| 03:35.53 | CSMan | is that BREW sdk java based ? |
| 03:37.23 | NAbyss | Brew is C++, IIRC.. |
| 03:38.04 | CSMan | NAbyss: apparently it comes only with an .exe installer |
| 03:38.55 | NAbyss | CSMan: BREW.. you're referring to the qualcomm j2me competitor, aren't you? |
| 03:39.10 | CSMan | qualcomm's yeah |
| 03:39.34 | NAbyss | Yeah.. it seems to be heavily win32/c++ targeted |
| 03:39.54 | CSMan | there is j2me thou |
| 03:40.16 | CSMan | and of course ... OE =D |
| 03:40.53 | NAbyss | Yep |
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| 03:57.14 | JustinP | anyone care to check out an mtn patch script before I release it to the ML(s) |
| 03:57.15 | JustinP | ? |
| 03:57.18 | JustinP | njs: around? |
| 03:58.32 | JustinP | http://oe.reversefold.com/mtnpatch.txt |
| 04:06.12 | emte | what are you patching for? |
| 04:07.43 | emte | just a cmdline tool? |
| 04:08.43 | CIA-9 | 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r8dcc1ce2... 10/packages/gpsd/ (gpsd.inc gpsd_2.28.bb): |
| 04:08.43 | CIA-9 | gpsd 2.28: Stop from using X headers from /usr/include by passing in the X |
| 04:08.43 | CIA-9 | include and library directory to the configure script. Closes bug #1039. |
| 04:08.47 | CIA-9 | 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * rb09b3e3c... 10/packages/gpsd/ (gpsd_2.6.bb gpsd_2.32.bb): gpsd: Add 2.32 and remove 2.6, as request by mickey in bug #1039. |
| 04:12.19 | mithro | hey RP, you about? |
| 04:13.29 | mithro | hey emte, whats your real name? |
| 04:15.46 | CIA-9 | 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r3ce8bd8b... 10/site/sh4-linux-uclibc: site/sh4-linux-uclibc: Add required entries to get openssh to build on sh4 with uclibc. |
| 04:18.55 | emte | mithro, my real name ... which part? |
| 04:19.29 | mithro | any i guess |
| 04:20.00 | JustinP | emte: this is a script to parse a patch output by "mtn diff" and run the necessary mtn commands to make it happen |
| 04:20.07 | JustinP | emte: a poor man's cherrypicker |
| 04:22.49 | emte | nigel |
| 04:37.31 | v8jlene | JustinP: Seem to do what it's meant to. Might be nice if it also output a patch command if there are embedded patches. And a -R mode to reverse all the commands might be handy... |
| 04:42.09 | JustinP | v8jlene: good point |
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| 05:11.49 | mithro | just to match it with any emails |
| 05:12.02 | emte | emails going ? |
| 05:12.31 | emte | i cant remember if my nmae is tagged to my email address on the list or not ... |
| 05:12.36 | emte | name* |
| 05:13.30 | emte | ah yeah it sort of does |
| 05:15.25 | emte | should only be a handful or so from me tho, i try to resist the urg to write too many. i have a bad habit of writting things before i think them through throughly |
| 05:20.11 | emte | strange .... |
| 05:20.21 | emte | i just had a beer, where did it go? |
| 05:21.17 | CIA-9 | 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r655b63aa... 10/site/sh4-linux-uclibc: site/sh4-linux-uclibc: Add required entries to get sudo to build for sh4 with uclibc. |
| 05:30.59 | CIA-9 | 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * rcb0c84fd... 10/site/sh4-linux-uclibc: site/sh4-linux-uclibc: Add required entries to get vim to build for sh4 with uclibc. |
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| 06:21.21 | emte | make that TOLED |
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| 06:32.03 | emte | TOLED® transparent and top-emitting OLED |
| 06:32.14 | emte | http://www.universaldisplay.com/toled.htm |
| 06:32.18 | emte | if you want a link |
| 06:44.26 | v8jlene | emte: Yeah, found it in google quickly. I was familiar with OLED, but never heard of TOLED, and T threw me off ;) |
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| 08:07.50 | Bernardo | good morning |
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| 08:36.58 | eFfeM | morning ll |
| 08:37.02 | eFfeM | all |
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| 08:45.39 | RP | morning all |
| 08:47.44 | eFfeM | hi RP |
| 08:52.21 | rwhitby | morning RP - how'd the slug going? got serial on it yet? |
| 08:52.37 | rwhitby | s/how'd/how's/ |
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| 09:08.48 | RP | rwhitby: The timing has worked out badly - very busy at work and other priorities at home - You'll note I've not been around as much. I have a serial interface chip sitting in front of me - just need to remember how to solder :) |
| 09:26.18 | mithro | hey RP |
| 09:26.39 | mithro | RP: what makes merging pokey changes back into OE hard? |
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| 09:31.56 | zecke | koen: hey |
| 09:32.03 | zecke | koen: can we get line wraps on? |
| 09:33.22 | zecke | ~botmail for kergoth Thanks for the info, but I think it should have gone to mickeyl, koen, or whoever asked for it :) |
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| 09:39.20 | kergoth | hehe, i forgot who asked, so just picked one at random :P |
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| 09:39.39 | zecke | kergoth: that is fine ;) |
| 09:39.54 | zecke | kergoth: I will try to dispatch it to [mickeyl,hrw,koen,schurig] |
| 09:40.38 | woglinde | hi kergoth |
| 09:41.04 | cyrilRomain | morning |
| 09:41.10 | woglinde | hi cyril |
| 09:41.28 | cyrilRomain | hi woglinde |
| 09:43.50 | zecke | hi |
| 09:43.58 | zecke | cyrilRomain: progress on the ipkg front? |
| 09:44.03 | kergoth | zecke, thanks |
| 09:44.32 | cyrilRomain | zecke: well 1 error in the valgrind report |
| 09:44.51 | cyrilRomain | zecke: but don't know where it comes from |
| 09:44.52 | woglinde | night kergoth |
| 09:45.12 | cyrilRomain | zecke: I file the bug with the valgrind log |
| 09:46.41 | zecke | cyrilRomain: use the hh.org bugzilla |
| 09:47.53 | cyrilRomain | zecke: yep |
| 09:48.03 | zecke | good :) |
| 09:48.09 | RP | mithro: time mainly :-/ |
| 09:48.19 | woglinde | hi rp |
| 09:48.21 | koen | kergoth`zzz: actually it was wiki.oz.org and hrw probably asked for it :) |
| 09:48.30 | zecke | hehe |
| 09:48.31 | woglinde | so next paper for tommrow |
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| 09:58.01 | zecke | kergoth`zzz: oe/website/html/dl/RealPlayer10GOLD.rpm |
| 09:58.05 | zecke | is that your player? |
| 10:03.58 | zecke | http://forge.novell.com/pipermail/microsuse-users/2006-May/000009.html |
| 10:04.10 | zecke | if their mail daemon would not be so broken one could reply... |
| 10:06.58 | koen | it is true that non-mainstream stuff suffers bitrot in OE |
| 10:07.29 | koen | we don't have much heavy uclibc users |
| 10:07.40 | koen | s/much/many/ |
| 10:07.47 | zecke | koen: well he is using crosstool from within buildroot to build a toolchain |
| 10:07.51 | zecke | koen: well that is bitrot :} |
| 10:07.58 | koen | true |
| 10:11.25 | woglinde | hm |
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| 10:11.41 | woglinde | maybe I should try uclibc for simpad |
| 10:12.01 | zecke | woglinde: http://www.albaticket.de/18.0.html |
| 10:12.34 | zecke | need to ask for money first *cough* |
| 10:12.46 | woglinde | zecke but you are student |
| 10:12.58 | zecke | woglinde: and disabled, so getting two reductions? |
| 10:13.02 | woglinde | no |
| 10:13.12 | zecke | woglinde: that sucks |
| 10:13.30 | zecke | woglinde: fucked up students have even less money than students |
| 10:14.00 | woglinde | zecke so you are consider to watch the final today? |
| 10:14.26 | zecke | woglinde: http://www.albaticket.de/25.0.html |
| 10:14.35 | zecke | woglinde: I'm considering it |
| 10:14.39 | woglinde | block N was my normal block |
| 10:15.17 | zecke | during EuroCup I was there |
| 10:15.36 | woglinde | or W |
| 10:15.36 | woglinde | or they changed it |
| 10:15.46 | woglinde | yes block W |
| 10:15.54 | zecke | woglinde: in the east... how... |
| 10:16.10 | zecke | woglinde: we can order tickets online? |
| 10:16.21 | woglinde | hm not for today I think |
| 10:16.23 | zecke | oh well... what happens if someone carries a knife and stabs people again? |
| 10:16.34 | zecke | woglinde: you can |
| 10:16.35 | woglinde | thats not handball |
| 10:17.01 | woglinde | but oyu have to phone my wife to get permission |
| 10:17.10 | zecke | lol |
| 10:17.20 | zecke | woglinde: I can watch it in TV as well |
| 10:17.40 | zecke | and I have no telephone |
| 10:17.51 | woglinde | yo are lier |
| 10:20.54 | mithro | btw are there logs for this channel? |
| 10:21.39 | zecke | ~logs |
| 10:21.42 | ibot | apt/ibot/jbot/purl all log to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz, or updated "nightly" |
| 10:21.44 | woglinde | zecke hm |
| 10:22.21 | mithro | thanks |
| 10:22.27 | zecke | woglinde: is she about to give birth soon(tm)? |
| 10:22.36 | woglinde | 4 weeks |
| 10:24.08 | zecke | woglinde: BTW: Ritter has a Origami device... |
| 10:24.17 | zecke | woglinde: it is bulky, has a bad screen signal |
| 10:24.23 | zecke | woglinde: and it always needs power... |
| 10:25.33 | woglinde | zecke I know |
| 10:25.47 | zecke | woglinde: okay, I will be leaving to the gym |
| 10:25.55 | woglinde | bye zecke |
| 10:26.01 | zecke | woglinde: no decision? |
| 10:26.04 | zecke | (yet) |
| 10:26.10 | woglinde | I hope you come with your car |
| 10:26.17 | zecke | to where? |
| 10:26.19 | woglinde | and two tickets |
| 10:26.24 | woglinde | and pick me up |
| 10:26.25 | woglinde | hehe |
| 10:26.27 | zecke | I won't try to get a parking spot at the stadium |
| 10:26.50 | zecke | woglinde: well, anyway you are not allowed to leave |
| 10:32.30 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.packaged-staging * r90279e90... 10/README: README: add the current plan |
| 10:34.52 | mithro | whats an Origami device? |
| 10:36.36 | koen | mithro: those new windows tablet thingies |
| 10:36.54 | koen | 800x480, windows XP, heavy, expensive, etc |
| 10:37.28 | koen | http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/umpc/default.mspx <- the propaganda |
| 10:42.18 | woglinde | yeah battery last for 2 hours if you are lucky |
| 10:42.39 | woglinde | ist like the simpad |
| 10:42.43 | woglinde | *g* |
| 10:42.49 | woglinde | its |
| 10:44.02 | XorA | well as long as it lasts longer than a typuical pr0n dvd |
| 10:44.47 | ixoth | good news everyone |
| 10:44.51 | ixoth | I've tested 2.6 on my poodle, that's the first recent kernel that was able to suspend :)) |
| 10:45.32 | ixoth | 2.4 doesn't want to suspend _at all_ :) |
| 10:46.30 | woglinde | ixoth nice |
| 10:46.58 | ixoth | now i should probably test USB networking |
| 10:47.21 | woglinde | should work with gadet driver |
| 10:48.22 | ixoth | yes, modprobe g_ether works ok... now i should configure my host... |
| 10:53.36 | mickeyl|breakfas | morning |
| 10:53.51 | mickeyl|breakfas | hey kergoth`zzz, i think it was hrw who asked to have wiki.openzaurus.org (not oe :)) pointed to that site |
| 10:54.41 | woglinde | hi mickeyl |
| 10:55.03 | mickeyl|breakfas | since http://openzaurus.berlios.de/ contains the OZ wiki now |
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| 11:13.45 | koen | hey mithro |
| 11:13.47 | koen | ehm |
| 11:13.50 | koen | hey mickeyl|breakfas |
| 11:14.05 | mithro | hey koen :) |
| 11:14.10 | koen | :) |
| 11:17.38 | mithro | koen: even though I didn't get a SoC, I'm really glad you did - the staging stuff is sorely needed |
| 11:18.20 | koen | I know |
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| 11:20.07 | koen | OE really needs stuff like that |
| 11:20.25 | koen | some fundamental issues require some man months of work |
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| 11:23.04 | mithro | koen: yeah |
| 11:23.19 | mithro | If i had just lost to you then it would have been okay :) |
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| 11:28.44 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.packaged-staging * r40ef60b4... 10/classes/packaged-staging.bbclass: packaged-staging.bbclass: adapt to the new plan |
| 11:28.48 | koen | hmmm |
| 11:28.50 | cyrilRomain | still on the ipgk segfault in fread libc2.4 STOP first ipkg segfault seen ~ correspond to the last arm-longlong.patch changes (include stdlib/mp instead of sysdeps/generic/mp) STOP Does anyone think it could be the cause ? |
| 11:28.56 | koen | I'm starting to be like zecke now |
| 11:29.03 | koen | where did I put the other commits? |
| 11:29.23 | woglinde | koen lol |
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| 11:31.10 | cyrilRomain | s/mp/mp_clz_tab.c/ |
| 11:32.30 | koen | cyrilRomain: could be |
| 11:36.56 | koen | ah, they must be on my linux workstation |
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| 11:49.07 | cyrilRomain | hum... iirc someone had trouble with floating point these day (?) is it related to gmp ? the arm-lonlong patch includes stdlib/mp_clz_tab.c which includes gmp .... |
| 11:49.18 | likewise | How can I extract a source package under a different different directory name? (Problem at hand: I have a gdk-pixbuf.bb, which extracts gtk+: patches/ are in gdk-pixbuf, source in gtk+, patching fails). |
| 11:49.31 | likewise | cyrilRomain: yes, me on a x86_64 machine. |
| 11:49.43 | likewise | cyrilRomain: Had to add a site variable to get gmp to compile. |
| 11:50.12 | koen | likewise: S = "${WORKDIR}/thediryouwnat" ? |
| 11:50.18 | koen | want* |
| 11:50.19 | cyrilRomain | likewise: but a compilation issue, not an execution one ? (i'm tracking down a ipkg segfault) |
| 11:50.57 | likewise | cyrilRomain: that was a compilation issue, I have not seen execution failures yet (and I think I have used a bit of floating point apps) |
| 11:51.21 | cyrilRomain | likewise: ok, glad to read that |
| 11:51.38 | likewise | koen: I tried that already, but good to see that should be it. |
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| 11:58.22 | likewise | koen: Using "S =" I can match the source dir to the tar dir. I want to rename the untarred dir (as it clashes with full gtk+), so I have to override the do_unpack() method. |
| 11:59.35 | koen | sounds like you answered your own question :) |
| 11:59.43 | koen | do_unpack() { |
| 11:59.44 | koen | foo |
| 11:59.44 | koen | } |
| 12:00.44 | likewise | koen: I think I am starting to get the hang of OE :-) (And now I will forget everything I knew about make :-)) |
| 12:00.48 | koen | :) |
| 12:05.18 | koen | whoa |
| 12:05.26 | koen | 8 new survey entries since yesterday |
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| 12:22.46 | [g2] | koen ping |
| 12:22.52 | koen | pong |
| 12:22.56 | [g2] | morning |
| 12:23.01 | CoreDump|home | morning |
| 12:23.06 | [g2] | heh ChanServ |
| 12:23.16 | [g2] | damn tab complete ! |
| 12:23.16 | mithro | hey [g2] you are the loft guy? |
| 12:23.23 | [g2] | mithro I am :) |
| 12:23.49 | [g2] | koen I've got a custom ubuntu that runs OE from the livecd |
| 12:23.59 | [g2] | it's Dapper as of yesterday |
| 12:24.04 | koen | [g2]: cool |
| 12:24.15 | koen | my workstation it ubdating right now |
| 12:24.32 | [g2] | I'd like to torrent it |
| 12:24.44 | [g2] | it runs most any OE build |
| 12:24.59 | koen | a torrent would be a good idea |
| 12:25.17 | [g2] | so I'd like to have a very simple Makefile for openezx and maybe something else |
| 12:26.21 | mithro | how big is it? |
| 12:26.30 | mithro | do you think we could do something a bit smaller? |
| 12:26.54 | [g2] | mithro it could be customized but its really not worth it |
| 12:27.14 | [g2] | openoffice is removed and a couple extra things are added |
| 12:27.36 | [g2] | the stuff needed to run OE, minicom, xchat etc |
| 12:27.50 | [g2] | I think the image is around 525MB |
| 12:28.25 | [g2] | there are only 2 things really missing in my mind |
| 12:28.44 | CoreDump|home | who was the qemu specialist? The darn thing doesn't compile on Collie in .oz :\ |
| 12:29.16 | [g2] | 1) the OE meta-data and simple structure |
| 12:29.21 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.packaged-staging * r403feaa6... 10/packages/update-rc.d/update-rc.d_0.7.bb: Add update-rc.d |
| 12:29.26 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.packaged-staging * rd9745682... 10/classes/packaged-staging.bbclass: packaged-staging.bbclass: merge uncommitted stuf from my other workstation |
| 12:29.30 | [g2] | 2) being able to do a "TORAM" boot |
| 12:29.51 | [g2] | 1) is handled easily with the persistent storage option |
| 12:30.02 | [g2] | dunno if 2 is implemented in Dapper yet |
| 12:33.06 | mithro | TORAM boot? |
| 12:33.20 | [g2] | mithro yeah |
| 12:33.34 | mithro | whats that? |
| 12:33.58 | ade|desk | put rootfs in ram so cd is removeabe |
| 12:34.06 | [g2] | in Knoppix there's a TORAM boot where the compressed rootfs is in ram for speed |
| 12:34.20 | [g2] | and the CD is removeable as ade|desk pointed out :) |
| 12:34.29 | mithro | ahh |
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| 12:51.10 | CoreDump|home | is anyone else having problems with qemu-nate b0rking with http://openembedded.pastebin.com/742709? |
| 12:51.17 | CoreDump|home | s/nate/native |
| 12:51.55 | koen | CoreDump|home: I have it assume-provided since it doesn't build and debian has 0.8.x |
| 12:52.23 | koen | doesn't build for me, thatis |
| 12:52.28 | CoreDump|home | ahh |
| 12:52.45 | CoreDump|home | well, it build fine and now b0rks on do-stage heh |
| 12:52.52 | CoreDump|home | and it built before here |
| 12:53.29 | ade|desk | do you have a test in configure.ac to find the correct strip in your toolchain ? |
| 12:54.42 | CoreDump|home | ade|desk: I've even linked strip to /bin, I believe the problem is that qemu-img is not found and install is complaining about a missing source binary |
| 12:55.46 | CoreDump|home | nm, qemu-img is there alright |
| 12:57.02 | koen | ibot: botmail for zecke: would this work: http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/pda/files/glibc-no-isystem.patch ? |
| 13:02.04 | CoreDump|home | heh, if I remove the "-s" from "install" in the makefiles it works fine. |
| 13:04.17 | ade|desk | sounds like your test for @STRIP@ is foobar |
| 13:04.46 | CoreDump|home | hmm |
| 13:10.24 | CoreDump|home | strip is in the search path and "install" still doesn't find it grrr |
| 13:11.16 | CoreDump|home | and ran manually it works of course |
| 13:12.50 | JoeSchmo | CoreDump|home, yea, i had to do that in my scripts for a few packages, the hosts install runs just plain strip, not sure if oe adds ${target_alias}- to the prefix of the tools |
| 13:13.58 | CoreDump|home | JoeSchmo: qemu-native is a native package, the distro strip works fine. It is just that it isn't found for whatever reason |
| 13:14.34 | JoeSchmo | ah |
| 13:15.03 | CoreDump|home | I've run the install command in the same shell env where it breaks in the makefile...it works manually |
| 13:15.41 | ade|desk | CoreDump|home: is there a bit in configure.ac , AC_CHECK_TOOL(STRIP, strip, : ) ? |
| 13:16.13 | JoeSchmo | install -s probably wouldn't be affected by that |
| 13:16.29 | CoreDump|home | ade|desk: it's not a typical configure script =) |
| 13:16.40 | CoreDump|home | but yeah, it is found |
| 13:20.47 | CoreDump|home | koen: could you post your ASSUME_PROVIDED line please? |
| 13:21.35 | koen | ASSUME_PROVIDED += "diffstat-native qemu-nativ" |
| 13:21.43 | koen | ehm |
| 13:21.46 | koen | ASSUME_PROVIDED += "diffstat-native qemu-native" |
| 13:21.52 | JoeSchmo | CoreDump|home, just looking at the coreutils install code, it calls execlp '("strip", "strip", name, NULL);', just as a debugging thing, i'd put a @echo $PATH above the install -s line in the Makefile |
| 13:22.27 | CoreDump|home | koen: thanks! |
| 13:22.34 | CoreDump|home | JoeSchmo: I gave up... |
| 13:22.51 | JoeSchmo | :/ |
| 13:23.01 | CoreDump|home | but what the hell, I'll check =) |
| 13:25.56 | CoreDump|home | /usr/bin is in PATH |
| 13:28.20 | JoeSchmo | if strip is /usr/bin/strip, what the heck |
| 13:28.43 | CoreDump|home | yep |
| 13:28.54 | CoreDump|home | install: cannot run strip: No such file or directory |
| 13:28.54 | CoreDump|home | install: strip failed |
| 13:28.59 | CoreDump|home | hmm |
| 13:29.35 | ade|desk | is $cross_prefix defined as your native complier prefix ? |
| 13:29.39 | CoreDump|home | the sourcefile for the install command is there |
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| 13:30.30 | CoreDump|home | no, it points into staging/bin |
| 13:30.46 | CoreDump|home | s/bin// |
| 13:31.01 | CoreDump|home | but install shouldn't give a damn about that ;) |
| 13:31.38 | CoreDump|home | anyways, enough is enough, I'm using ASSUME_PROVIDED since it takes quite some time to compile in any case |
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| 13:32.44 | woglinde | re zecke |
| 13:32.52 | zecke | hey |
| 13:32.57 | zecke | woglinde: may we go? |
| 13:33.13 | woglinde | zecke holste mich ab? |
| 13:33.57 | woglinde | aber wird nix |
| 13:36.07 | zecke | :( |
| 13:36.18 | woglinde | hm |
| 13:36.23 | woglinde | oder willst du wirklich? |
| 13:36.58 | zecke | woglinde: well, I can do my physichs assignment as well |
| 13:37.12 | woglinde | yepp mch das |
| 13:37.16 | woglinde | ich mach alp4 |
| 13:39.08 | woglinde | ung guck online |
| 13:39.19 | woglinde | ups sorrx |
| 13:39.39 | zecke | hehe |
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| 13:41.48 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r30f22806... 10/packages/gpe-calendar/gpe-calendar_cvs.bb: gpe-calendar: add libsoup to the DEPENDS field of the cvs version |
| 13:42.44 | koen | CoreDump|home: gpe-calendar cvs should now be able to download and update .ics calendars over webdav |
| 13:42.54 | koen | i.e. webcals, google calender, etc |
| 13:43.14 | zecke | koen: libsoup was SOAP? |
| 13:43.27 | koen | zecke: no idea |
| 13:43.34 | koen | iirc evo uses libsoup as well |
| 13:43.39 | zecke | well |
| 13:43.45 | zecke | then it must be good :} |
| 13:43.58 | koen | CoreDump|home: no, I didn't |
| 13:44.05 | CoreDump|home | hmm |
| 13:44.22 | CoreDump|home | I didn't play w/ calendar in ages |
| 13:44.27 | koen | CoreDump|home: I suspect that most hentges users complain to you about ko/pi being unavailable in X |
| 13:44.36 | CoreDump|home | ah |
| 13:44.47 | CoreDump|home | well, matter of factly they don't =D |
| 13:45.26 | CoreDump|home | 98% of "my" users use Opie since the GPE image is still kinda new |
| 13:46.01 | zecke | CoreDump|home: qemu-native needs to DEPEND on zlib-native then |
| 13:46.35 | CoreDump|home | zecke: I pretty much gave up with trying to compile it. Check the backlog ;) |
| 13:46.47 | ade|desk | zecke: why zlib ? |
| 13:47.12 | zecke | CoreDump|home: no backlog ;) |
| 13:47.36 | CoreDump|home | ade|desk: that was a previous problem w/ qemu, unrelated to strip |
| 13:47.56 | ade|desk | ah ok |
| 13:53.11 | CoreDump|home | can you configure which locales are generated by glibc or is it all or nothing only? |
| 13:53.52 | koen | CoreDump|home: it configurable |
| 13:53.58 | CoreDump|home | hmm |
| 13:54.26 | CoreDump|home | I'm reading the bbclass but that doesn't exactly stand out |
| 13:54.39 | CoreDump|home | ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION ?= "0" |
| 13:54.45 | CoreDump|home | that's all or nothing |
| 13:55.05 | koen | CoreDump|home: something like http://rpsys.net/openzaurus/temp/glibc_workionprogress.patch |
| 13:55.32 | CoreDump|home | koen: nice |
| 13:56.09 | koen | CoreDump|home: iirc it doesn't work 100%, but you'd have to ask RP for the details |
| 13:56.51 | CoreDump|home | if [ "${LIMIT_BUILT_LOCALES}" != "${LIMIT_BUILT_LOCALES}" ]; then <- pretty much disabled by default ;) |
| 13:59.12 | ade|desk | disabled unless defined |
| 14:00.03 | hrw | hi |
| 14:00.08 | woglinde | re hrw |
| 14:00.13 | koen | hey hrw |
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| 14:02.37 | hrw | koen: nice password you choosed for me;) |
| 14:03.14 | koen | :) |
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| 14:14.25 | hrw | koen: now I can add planet.ltg to my links section on webpage |
| 14:20.03 | koen | :) |
| 14:21.24 | zecke | hmm |
| 14:21.25 | zecke | :( |
| 14:22.22 | zecke | koen: you may have seen it already but the first set of graph generation is done |
| 14:22.39 | zecke | koen: alldepends used '---' for DEPENDS and '- - -' for RDEPENDS |
| 14:22.47 | zecke | koen: and the graph is not looking too bad |
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| 14:23.31 | koen | http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/kernel-build.png looks cure |
| 14:23.34 | koen | ehm |
| 14:23.35 | koen | cute |
| 14:23.50 | NAbyss | mickeyl|breakfas: Do you still maintain the .bb for qpegps? |
| 14:23.57 | zecke | koen: that is old |
| 14:24.03 | zecke | koen: it now prints the version as well |
| 14:24.11 | zecke | koen: and probably soon the provider name as well :} |
| 14:27.58 | zecke | koen: and pdf output looks better (on OSX) |
| 14:30.16 | ixoth_ | er... I have a question... how much time does it take to generate binary locales using qemu-arm? |
| 14:30.41 | hrw | 1.5-3h |
| 14:30.49 | ixoth_ | oh, ok... |
| 14:30.52 | ixoth_ | thanks |
| 14:31.06 | ixoth_ | then I'm out to drink some tea :) |
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| 14:35.38 | zecke | wow OPie has ~12000 revs |
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| 14:47.57 | TheCan | hi - i wanted to ask whether OE works for i386 |
| 14:49.03 | hrw | yes |
| 14:49.24 | TheCan | so to say i could make my own "distro" then? |
| 14:49.46 | hrw | yes |
| 14:50.00 | TheCan | i am just looking for a way to build a relatively small linux rootfs for my netvista, i tried debootstrap with debian sarge and the base installation is about 144mb - a bit too big for me |
| 14:50.22 | hrw | MACHINE="netvista" is already in |
| 14:50.32 | TheCan | dont know if it?s the same netvista.. |
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| 14:51.05 | TheCan | well sounds quite good though |
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| 14:52.48 | TheCan | what image would i choose then? essential-image? bootstrap-image? essential-machine-image? |
| 14:54.31 | koen | xterminal-image ? |
| 14:55.05 | TheCan | no i want to use the netvista as "thin server" |
| 14:55.38 | TheCan | image should be as small as possible but provide neccessary libs for mysql/apache etc. (i wanted to simply install xampp on it) |
| 14:57.04 | koen | try bootstrap-image |
| 14:57.08 | TheCan | ok |
| 14:57.27 | TheCan | distr = generic |
| 14:57.28 | TheCan | ? |
| 14:57.32 | TheCan | +o |
| 15:00.15 | ade|desk | later all |
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| 15:08.55 | CoreDump|home | koen: it looks like kdrive ignores a keymapping of XF86_Switch_VT_* |
| 15:09.10 | CoreDump|home | but we can achive the same goal with keylaunch... |
| 15:09.46 | koen | CoreDump|home: I personally don't have a use case for going to console while X is running |
| 15:09.55 | koen | I either fire up rxvt or kill X |
| 15:10.03 | koen | so I haven't looked into the problem |
| 15:10.07 | CoreDump|home | it is useful at times |
| 15:10.32 | koen | no doubt |
| 15:10.37 | koen | I just don't use it :) |
| 15:10.40 | CoreDump|home | ;) |
| 15:11.28 | TheCan | when not cross-building (i386 -> i386) OE will still use it?s own compiler/toolchain and so first build it, not use the available one in the system? |
| 15:11.56 | CoreDump|home | would anyone have any problems with setting SUID but on chvt.console tools? |
| 15:12.06 | zecke | TheCan: well unless you ASSUME it as provided |
| 15:12.29 | TheCan | zecke, ok just wanted to be sure - i guess it?s better it uses its own so the versions match |
| 15:13.28 | hrw | cu |
| 15:14.34 | TheCan | is the netvista port currently maintained? |
| 15:16.12 | eFfeM | hi, anyone with bluetooth knowledge around? I'm trying to connect to my BT headset but I can't even l2ping it although I can l2ping my phone |
| 15:16.45 | zecke | switch the headset on? |
| 15:17.20 | eFfeM | it is on, and if it is in pairing mode hcitool scan sees it but l2ping gives no reply |
| 15:17.46 | eFfeM | if it is not in pairing mode hcitool scan does not see it |
| 15:18.08 | eFfeM | and I think by now I have seen every l2ping error message that exists .... |
| 15:21.19 | TheCan | eFfeM, maybe it requires a pre-set bluetooth pin to be set and therefore pairing does not work? |
| 15:22.29 | eFfeM | it does require a pin, but I have a pinhelper pointing to an executable shell script saying echo "PIN:0000" |
| 15:23.47 | eFfeM | but it could well be related, I've added an echo date >>/log in the pinhelper script but it does not do anything |
| 15:23.56 | eFfeM | that is: it is not invoked |
| 15:24.43 | TheCan | "generic" on i386 is broken btw - glibc-initial does not build |
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| 15:30.01 | eFfeM | hm. started hcid in non daemon mode, it does not even get to the pin request but hangs at link_key_request |
| 15:32.33 | CoreDump|home | soo, I'll just assume that no-one has a problem w/ an SUID root chvt and change it.... |
| 15:40.19 | eFfeM | found it: /var/lib/bluetooth/*/linkkeys contained a bad value. don't know how it got there, but removing the file cured it |
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| 15:44.43 | Bernardo | hi |
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| 15:51.18 | TheCan | anyone knows which glibc is known to work with i386? |
| 15:54.39 | zecke | TheCan: no |
| 15:54.49 | TheCan | 2.3.5+cvs and 2.3.3 failed both on me :( |
| 15:54.53 | TheCan | now trying 2.3.2 |
| 15:55.13 | TheCan | oh and newest cvs also failed |
| 15:56.33 | zecke | TheCan: you might need NTPL :} |
| 15:59.25 | TheCan | zecke, the configure script complains about gcc being too new :/ |
| 15:59.50 | zecke | TheCan: using gcc4? |
| 15:59.53 | TheCan | yes |
| 15:59.59 | zecke | TheCan: set PREFERRED_VERSION_.... |
| 16:00.05 | TheCan | for gcc? |
| 16:00.13 | zecke | yes |
| 16:00.19 | TheCan | indeed i wanted to use gcc 4.1.1 thats why i set preferred version so |
| 16:00.26 | TheCan | didnt know old glibc could fail because of this |
| 16:00.36 | TheCan | on sh3 it worked at least |
| 16:00.48 | TheCan | i?ll give glibc 2.4 a try |
| 16:01.41 | TheCan | :D |
| 16:01.51 | TheCan | 2.4 even the patches fail |
| 16:02.57 | zecke | mithro: http://doc.trolltech.com/qtopia2.2/html/environment-prereq.html <- lol |
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| 16:04.29 | mithro | zecke: ? |
| 16:04.42 | koen | heh |
| 16:04.48 | koen | it doesn't 2.95.3 |
| 16:04.51 | zecke | compiles != works |
| 16:04.52 | koen | doesn't list |
| 16:05.19 | zecke | I was searching for a good analysis of jffs2 and other filesystems |
| 16:05.30 | zecke | in regard to compression ratio and wanted to show to CoreDump|home |
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| 17:04.10 | TheCan | no glibc version seems to work with gcc 4.1.1 on i386 :( |
| 17:07.02 | zecke | TheCan: well |
| 17:07.12 | zecke | TheCan: you build an initial gcc, then glibc, then gcc |
| 17:07.14 | TheCan | "patches welcome"? :D |
| 17:07.23 | zecke | TheCan: you should be able to use a gcc3 for the initial one |
| 17:07.32 | zecke | TheCan: compile the glibc, then compile a modern gcc4 |
| 17:08.03 | TheCan | zecke, setting gcc-cross and gcc to 4.1.1 and gcc-initial to 3.4.4 ? |
| 17:08.11 | TheCan | sorry gcc-cross-initial |
| 17:09.03 | zecke | TheCan: I suck at remembering names, but yes :) |
| 17:09.10 | TheCan | :) thx! |
| 17:09.26 | TheCan | how big is the final userland be expected to be? |
| 17:09.36 | TheCan | like 10mb or less? |
| 17:09.54 | zecke | TheCan: that depends |
| 17:10.11 | TheCan | using glibc, not uclibc and just the "bootstrap-image" task |
| 17:10.26 | zecke | depends on the filesystem |
| 17:10.26 | CoreDump|home | TheCan: ~7-9Mb IIRC |
| 17:10.35 | TheCan | thx |
| 17:10.53 | TheCan | this sounds quite great compared to debootstrapped sarge?s 144mb :D |
| 17:11.30 | CoreDump|home | TheCan: http://hentges.net/tmp/screenshots/Zaurus/Akita/Misc/essential-to-boot+wifi.jpg ;) |
| 17:11.49 | TheCan | :) |
| 17:11.56 | CoreDump|home | and yes, it booted on its own heh |
| 17:11.58 | TheCan | on zaurus that is? |
| 17:12.09 | CoreDump|home | yes, SL-C1000 |
| 17:12.17 | TheCan | hmm my problem is i got somehow precompiled apache2+mysql+perl+php etc. |
| 17:12.51 | TheCan | it?s linked against normal glibc - is it supposed to work? |
| 17:13.15 | CoreDump|home | never built x86 images, dunno |
| 17:13.42 | TheCan | well hopefully i get glibc finally working now (2.3.5+cvs failed just right now:( ) so we will see |
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| 17:15.22 | TheCan | btw is there some way to use "arch-dependent" patches? this would be nice |
| 17:15.41 | TheCan | like you define in the bb-file to apply patches only for certain architectures |
| 17:15.51 | koen | SRC_URI_<yourarch> += "file://patch.patch;patch=1" |
| 17:15.59 | TheCan | it could be of course that some of the say ARM patches break i386 |
| 17:16.07 | koen | unlikely |
| 17:16.15 | TheCan | hm.. |
| 17:16.24 | koen | unless i386 uses sysdeps/arm/ |
| 17:16.44 | TheCan | then it?s a bit strange glibc 2.3.5+cvs compiled nice on (initial) gcc 4.1.1 with sh3 while it breaks on i386 |
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| 17:20.17 | TheCan | arr...2.3.3 doesnt work either :( |
| 17:23.33 | TheCan | if 2.3.2 also breaks i?ll try without all the patches - i suppose glibc is supposed to compile cleanly without patches on i386? |
| 17:23.56 | zecke | damn OpenEmbedded.biz |
| 17:24.06 | emte | ? |
| 17:24.28 | TheCan | name stealing? :/ |
| 17:24.28 | zecke | TheCan: lol, I do not suspect any patch to break i386 build |
| 17:24.38 | zecke | TheCan: start reading the error message and think :) |
| 17:24.48 | zecke | TheCan: yeah name stealing. OpenEmbedded.de, OpenEmbedded.biz |
| 17:25.06 | zecke | TheCan: we now have 'two' Embedded companies that are doing name stealing |
| 17:25.22 | TheCan | you could propably court them? |
| 17:25.39 | TheCan | you used this name first so you got the name rights for it |
| 17:25.53 | TheCan | otherwise they could register it as their trademark and then court you |
| 17:26.37 | emte | oe isnt an organisation |
| 17:26.49 | zecke | TheCan: we have no trademark :} |
| 17:26.52 | emte | and there is nothing to prevent others from using the name |
| 17:27.26 | RP | zecke: I've managed to generate lots of errors on the tinderbox :) |
| 17:27.35 | zecke | errors? |
| 17:27.39 | emte | and if a trademark existed it would only be valid in the country that it was registered |
| 17:27.40 | TheCan | hm well..i don?t remember exactly how this was unfortunately but i had once hearings about this topic :D |
| 17:27.44 | RP | zecke: well, build failures |
| 17:27.56 | TheCan | emte, well you can have international trademarks |
| 17:28.02 | RP | zecke: oz354x appears to be the most stable :) |
| 17:28.04 | TheCan | of course this costs a lot too much |
| 17:28.05 | emte | TheCan, IF you have the money |
| 17:28.25 | koen | RP: that was the goal of .oz354x :) |
| 17:28.54 | RP | koen: It doesn't help that my scripts keep screwing up... |
| 17:29.11 | RP | How are we going to handle multimachine and packages like sysvinit? |
| 17:29.36 | koen | add a new flag? |
| 17:29.39 | zecke | RP: any explanations why your builds look so long? |
| 17:29.40 | emte | interesting ... they point sombrio.com to oe.biz |
| 17:29.47 | koen | MULTIMACHINE_UNSAFE? |
| 17:29.56 | zecke | RP: interrupted internet connection? |
| 17:30.21 | RP | zecke: Which builds took "so long" in yor opinion? |
| 17:30.24 | koen | RP: see contrib/openzaurus for buildscripts |
| 17:30.32 | emte | they also use embeddedoss.org |
| 17:30.37 | TheCan | btw - why is the ipk/deploy place not seperated in archs? |
| 17:30.41 | RP | koen: I wondered about MULTIMACH_ARCH which is generted by lkooking thought each item in package and summarising the PACKAGE_ARCHs? |
| 17:31.13 | zecke | TheCan: because packages are? |
| 17:31.14 | koen | RP: I'd like to know it in advance |
| 17:31.24 | zecke | TheCan: _arm, _xscale _moo, _openzaurus |
| 17:31.25 | RP | koen: We can know in advance... |
| 17:31.32 | TheCan | zecke, yeah i know |
| 17:31.40 | TheCan | but wouldnt folders be better? |
| 17:31.47 | zecke | TheCan: in which way? |
| 17:31.51 | RP | koen: We'd do this in an anonymous function |
| 17:31.52 | koen | RP: yes by looking at SRC_URI and stuff in FILES_PATH |
| 17:32.09 | TheCan | zecke, would look more clean in my eyes |
| 17:32.11 | zecke | TheCan: this way, it works with existing stuff (debian, ipk) |
| 17:32.35 | zecke | anyway, first final starts... |
| 17:33.56 | RP | zecke|tv: How do I stop a build that tinderbox hasn't noticed has been aborted? |
| 17:34.20 | zecke|tv | RP: later, how did you abort? |
| 17:34.33 | RP | zecke|tv: Ctrl+C to bitbake |
| 17:34.58 | Bernardo | hi guys |
| 17:35.08 | RP | hi Bernardo |
| 17:35.13 | koen | hey Bernardo |
| 17:38.49 | TheCan | glibc 2.3.2 worked fine btw (unlike 2.3.3, 2.3.5cvs etc.) |
| 17:39.03 | TheCan | is there a chance i could commit my netvista distro file into OE? |
| 17:39.07 | TheCan | (once it?s finished) |
| 17:39.48 | emte | if you plan to maintain it |
| 17:40.28 | TheCan | yeah i thought about opening a netvista mini-distribution |
| 17:40.40 | TheCan | but hard to tell how much time this takes etc. |
| 17:41.21 | emte | just setup a way to do automated builds occasionally and fix quirks |
| 17:41.53 | emte | and awnswer questions about it i suppose |
| 17:42.07 | TheCan | yeah i thought about just putting a bb-file which allows for clean bootstrap-image compilation |
| 17:42.34 | emte | sounds good |
| 17:42.44 | TheCan | it?s basically i386 |
| 17:42.55 | TheCan | but since generic (using latest libs) seems to be broken on i386.. |
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| 17:52.00 | RP | koen: How does http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/temp/multimachine.bbclass look? |
| 17:57.49 | koen | looks ok |
| 18:10.40 | RP | koen: ok to update angstrom with that? (I'll update the other distros as well) |
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| 18:12.48 | koen | RP: please commit it if it works for you |
| 18:16.17 | guylhem_ | On a c7x0 running with 354rc, I have a strange alsamixer error message : inappropriate iotctl for device |
| 18:16.25 | RP | koen: I just need to change multimachine from an include into a .bbclass. I can't see a problem with that as most people will be using it from the distro files though and as long as I change that, everything should be fine. I'm just checking it all works as expected |
| 18:16.28 | guylhem_ | which modules are necessary for the sound? |
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| 18:17.08 | RP | guylhem_: That's probably best asked in #openzaurus |
| 18:17.20 | guylhem_ | oops sorry |
| 18:18.10 | guylhem_ | btw I will try to release a bb for postgres and exim which I have running on my device |
| 18:18.19 | koen | ah cool |
| 18:18.25 | RP | guylhem_: sounds good :) |
| 18:18.36 | koen | I've been wanting a postgres .bb for a while |
| 18:18.36 | ixoth | hmmm.... binary locale generation takes a really long time... 4h have passed, and it still generates first one :( |
| 18:18.54 | guylhem_ | compilation is easy. the problem for me will be learning how to use bb and sstuff |
| 18:19.16 | guylhem_ | koen, do you want me to send you the binaries and the configuration script by email? they run on angstrom |
| 18:19.51 | koen | guylhem_: I won't have time to test them anytime soon, so I'll wait for the .bb :) |
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| 18:46.42 | ade|desk | hmm i wonder if mtn will ever be smp aware |
| 18:47.17 | koen | ade|desk: when I asked njs he said "you can use the other cpu for watching a dvd while it's pulling" |
| 18:47.30 | Philippe | ade|desk, yep. That would be nice... OTOH I still have CPU power left to do something else while it eats up the other CPU |
| 18:47.56 | ade|desk | i have 3 idle cpus :( |
| 18:48.06 | njs | watch 3 dvds at once! |
| 18:48.17 | Philippe | ade|desk, real or virtual? |
| 18:48.18 | ade|desk | njs: on a headless server |
| 18:48.23 | ade|desk | Philippe: real |
| 18:48.46 | njs | more seriously, the answer is "maybe someday, but really there's no point in even needing all that cpu, so..." |
| 18:48.54 | ade|desk | my net connection aint good enough to stream mpeg2 over adsl |
| 18:49.04 | Philippe | ade|desk, cool! I only have two real, and two more thanks to hypertreading. |
| 18:49.21 | koen | njs: ins't verifying stuff inherently linear? |
| 18:49.23 | Philippe | ade|desk, you could recode DVD's :-) |
| 18:49.40 | ade|desk | no dvd drive on the server either |
| 18:49.46 | njs | koen: *shrug* I don't know what exactly one would do, but e.g. it might be possible to SHA1 things in parallel |
| 18:50.11 | njs | and in the long run SHA1 should be the bottleneck |
| 18:50.16 | njs | it sure ain't the bottleneck now, though |
| 18:50.45 | Philippe | ade|desk, the solution is "bitbake world" ... :-) |
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| 18:51.08 | ade|desk | bitbake world while pulling, seems a bit pointless |
| 18:51.09 | TheCan | bootstrap-image on i386 done :) wohoo |
| 18:51.33 | CIA-9 | 03coredump 07org.oe.oz354x * r26addc12... 10/packages/keylaunch/ (4 files in 4 dirs): keylaunch: Akita / Spitz: Update keymapping to allow switching to the VT from inside X with Fn+Left or Fn+Right. Also includes a new script to make chvt SUID root to allow users to switch VTs |
| 18:51.37 | CIA-9 | 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * r0c120ae0... 10/packages/keylaunch/ (4 files in 4 dirs): keylaunch: Akita / Spitz: Update keymapping to allow switching to the VT from inside X with Fn+Left or Fn+Right. Also includes a new script to make chvt SUID root to allow users to switch VTs |
| 18:51.42 | CIA-9 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rdd8feb40... 10/ (6 files in 3 dirs): multimachine: Change from an include to a .bblass (and update distros using multimachine accordingly). Add code to find packages with machine specific subpackages and build these in a multimachine compatible way. |
| 18:52.28 | ade|desk | still having problems with gcc 4.1.0 w.r.t atexit() |
| 18:52.46 | TheCan | the image is 9.9mb - nice nice :) |
| 18:53.09 | ade|desk | 9.9 for a bootstrap-image .. seems large |
| 18:53.20 | TheCan | i386 |
| 18:53.23 | TheCan | not compressed image |
| 18:53.26 | ade|desk | would expect ~5 |
| 18:53.30 | TheCan | i mean how much space it takes (inside) the image |
| 18:53.35 | TheCan | compressed it?s 1.8mb |
| 18:53.42 | TheCan | i just mounted it as loop device |
| 18:53.43 | ade|desk | that better |
| 18:53.57 | CoreDump|home | ade|desk: well, the bootstrap-image has too much crap in it |
| 18:54.00 | ade|desk | glibc or uclibc ? |
| 18:54.08 | ade|desk | CoreDump|home: indeed |
| 18:54.50 | CIA-9 | 03coredump 07org.oe.oz354x * r3d1e1f91... 10/packages/gpe-login/ (files/chvt-keylaunch.patch gpe-login_0.86.bb): gpe-login: Enable switching to the VT with Fn+[Left|Right]Arrow and killing X with Fn+Esc |
| 18:54.55 | CIA-9 | 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * rcd0b649e... 10/packages/gpe-login/ (files/chvt-keylaunch.patch gpe-login_0.86.bb): gpe-login: Enable switching to the VT with Fn+[Left|Right]Arrow and killing X with Fn+Esc |
| 18:56.55 | TheCan | ade|desk, with glibc |
| 18:56.58 | ixoth | hmmmm.... my i386 image takes 9.5M with uclibc and 12M wigh glibc |
| 18:57.05 | TheCan | how can i get the kernel now btw? |
| 18:57.19 | TheCan | should i manually extract it out of the ipk file? |
| 18:57.24 | TheCan | or is there any kernel-target? |
| 18:57.39 | koen | virtual/kernel |
| 18:57.47 | koen | and .ipkgs are .debs |
| 18:57.51 | TheCan | i know |
| 18:58.34 | ade|desk | i mostly do modules as ipkg and keep the kernel as a bzImage |
| 18:59.09 | TheCan | hmm the kernel_image ipk is only ~700 bytes |
| 18:59.25 | koen | time to watch top gear |
| 18:59.34 | ade|desk | allow_empty is set to 1 |
| 18:59.39 | ade|desk | oooh top gear |
| 18:59.53 | ade|desk | koen|tv: you can get bbc2 over there |
| 19:00.00 | koen|tv | ade|desk: yes :) |
| 19:00.04 | koen|tv | ~hail bbc2 |
| 19:00.05 | ibot | ACTION bows down to bbc2 and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 19:04.54 | TheCan | omg now i built everything for hours but now can?t find the machine for which i did it :D |
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| 19:08.59 | Ifaistos | greetings ! |
| 19:10.22 | zecke | Ifaistos: hey, I have the ppc almost setup :} |
| 19:10.48 | woglinde | hallo ifaistos |
| 19:11.40 | Ifaistos | zecke : Good :) Let me know if you manage to get any graphical enviroment running on it |
| 19:11.40 | zecke | mickeyl|breakfas: http://handhelds.org/~bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=650 |
| 19:11.50 | Ifaistos | woglinde : Hi ! |
| 19:12.29 | Ifaistos | i think i found a bug in ipkg.... |
| 19:12.46 | Ifaistos | if i try to remove a package with dependancies i get the usual erros |
| 19:13.16 | Ifaistos | root@OWMNR:~# ipkg remove quagga |
| 19:13.16 | Ifaistos | Nothing to be done |
| 19:13.16 | Ifaistos | Collected errors: |
| 19:13.16 | Ifaistos | Package quagga is depended upon by packages: |
| 19:13.16 | Ifaistos | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:13.17 | Ifaistos | These might cease to work if package quagga is removed. |
| 19:13.19 | Ifaistos | You can force removal of this package with -force-depends. |
| 19:13.21 | Ifaistos | You can force removal of this package and its dependents |
| 19:13.23 | Ifaistos | with -force-removal-of-dependent-packages or -recursive |
| 19:13.25 | Ifaistos | or by setting option force_removal_of_dependent_packages |
| 19:13.27 | Ifaistos | in ipkg.conf. |
| 19:13.47 | Ifaistos | if i use ipkg remove quagga -V 0 in order to get only errors.... nothing is displayed |
| 19:14.52 | Ifaistos | according to the ipkg help -V 0 should return errors only... but it returns nothing |
| 19:15.03 | Ifaistos | any ideas ? |
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| 20:00.07 | zecke | I'm going to bed now |
| 20:00.09 | zecke | cya |
| 20:00.19 | likewise | cya |
| 20:00.43 | CoreDump|home | n8 zecke |
| 20:04.05 | Bernardo | hi |
| 20:04.52 | CoreDump|home | hi Bernardo |
| 20:05.06 | koen | hey Bernardo |
| 20:05.07 | Bernardo | I've been unable to build oz354x since I switched my host from mandriva to kubuntu dapper, alway fails in konq-embed with "no rule to make target '-lpcre'" |
| 20:05.21 | Bernardo | and pcre built without problems |
| 20:05.38 | Bernardo | any idea? I've blasted tmp/* and rebuilt twice |
| 20:06.01 | koen | that you installed pcre-dev? |
| 20:06.11 | koen | or whatever ubuntu calls it |
| 20:06.18 | koen | libpcre3-dev iirc |
| 20:06.41 | Bernardo | native? I don't think so, let me check |
| 20:07.03 | Bernardo | ok, installing it now |
| 20:07.08 | Bernardo | thanks koen |
| 20:10.15 | Bernardo | yep, now it built |
| 20:16.37 | TheCan | where do i normally configure static network in OE? which files i mean? |
| 20:37.30 | Ifaistos | Thecan : /etc/network/interafces |
| 20:37.39 | TheCan | yeah i found it already, thx |
| 20:37.39 | Ifaistos | Thecan : /etc/network/interfaces |
| 20:37.51 | TheCan | i just see stupid xampp is precompiled for i686 :( |
| 20:37.55 | TheCan | lets see if it works on the netvista |
| 20:50.35 | TheCan | hmm no apache in OE ? |
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| 22:06.00 | woglinde | he kergoth |
| 22:07.44 | kergoth | hey |
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