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00:11.42kenany c expert here? :D
00:11.56CosmicPenguinI hope so
00:12.01CIA-903kristoffer 07org.oe.dev * ra17ff65b... 10/packages/libmng/libmng_1.0.8.bb:
00:12.01CIA-9libmng: Fixes export of include files to staging dir
00:12.01CIA-9* Exports all libmng*.h files to staging include dir
00:12.16kenGot problem for you then :) should be a no brainer but I cant work it out
00:13.00keninput = *((unsigned short *) background)++; returns "invalid lvalue in increment"
00:14.07thejapawhat type is input?
00:14.13kenbackground is defined as "unsigned char *background;"
00:14.40thejapaken: i guess you can't use ++ in a cast
00:14.42keninput is defined as "unsigned short;"
00:15.01NAbyssken: Hmm, wrap brackets around the *((uns.. *) bkg)?
00:15.02thejapanot that I'm any c expert
00:15.27CosmicPenguinI don't think that using cast expressions as lvalues is allowed in ansi
00:15.36CosmicPenguinwhat compiler version?
00:15.43ken4.1.1
00:15.54CosmicPenguinyeah - thats probably not allowed
00:16.02CosmicPenguintest.c:12: warning: use of cast expressions as lvalues is deprecated
00:16.05CosmicPenguinI get that with 3.3.6
00:16.11kenlol
00:16.17kenbest way around it?
00:16.31NAbyssken: Declare a unsigned short * to cast to, then dereference that
00:16.37kergothcompiles fine here if you put the * in parens. (*((unsigned short *) background))++;  is ++ higher in precedence than *?
00:16.48NAbyssunsigned short * temp = (unsigned short *)background; *temp++;
00:17.00CosmicPenguinYeah, thats what I would do
00:17.04thejapaor do input++ later
00:17.09kenoki, big thx
00:18.32thejapaemte: math theory is only good when it's far far away in the past, distant memories of things long gone.
00:27.07kergothken: you do realize that the size of an unsigned char is not the same as the size of an unsigned short on all systems, right?  that code is problematic
00:27.11kergothheh
00:27.31keneek
00:27.49kenAny known systems that differ? in OE i mean
00:28.00kergothfix the code
00:28.02kergoththey're different in x86.
00:28.32kenargh, stupid bootsplash
00:29.35ken:D
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00:30.36kergothhehe
00:30.54kergothken: background: 64, input: 4B64, input++: 4B65
00:30.55kergoth:P
00:32.32ken:)
00:35.00chouimathi
00:35.46chouimatkergoth: check email :) you will laugh
00:35.46kergothhey chouimat
00:35.49kergothk
00:36.37thejapakergoth: enlighten me... :) was "input++" what ken intended to do?
00:37.40kergothhe wanted to get the integer value of the character pointed to, and increment that value, afaik.  he had two issues, one was the use of the cast in the lvalue, which cp and nabyss helped him resolve. the second was the portability issue i pointed out
00:37.58chouimatkergoth: later or tomorrow
00:38.29thejapakergoth: ah! thanks
00:39.23kenCalling it a night also, cya tommorow
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00:43.36emtein the past ...
00:43.56emtei epect that i'll have to remember all my math theory
00:43.59emteexpect
00:44.20emtewhat was with ken's odd  var = *(bla); ?
00:44.37emtei dont recall that being valid in C
00:44.50emtethe asterix in that placement
00:45.30emteunless he was dereferencing all of (blah)
00:46.55thejapaemte: nevermind, ken's gone home now.
00:47.15thejapai thought he was doing pointer math
00:48.03emteyeah after that last comment of mine taht was my conclusion as well
00:48.06thejapalike getting the next char of the array
00:48.45emtebackground must be a bit less obvious than it's name
00:49.56thejapasounds like some taoist prayer
00:51.17thejapa"having the background less obvious than it's name is not tao"
00:51.34thejapa"tao is when name and background concur"
00:51.45thejapa"okay, i'll stop"
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07:13.19_law_morning
07:13.33_law_has someone an ipkg version .162 .bb file ?
07:13.41_law_s/162/163
07:14.55hrw_law_: cp 159 163
07:15.11_law_hrw, works for you?
07:16.09hrw_law_: did not checked
07:16.22_law_hrw, patch doesnt apply
07:17.02hrwmaybe already applied upstream?
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07:21.10_law_if i remove the patch i get the following error
07:22.49hrwhi XorA
07:22.55XorAmorning
07:23.59hrwNOTE: package kismet-qte-2.0.0-r0: task do_compile: completed
07:24.09hrw~lart users using soft from 2003
07:24.38XorAhrw: responging to that kismet email on users list?
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07:26.06hrwyep - wanted to check it
07:27.21XorAhrw: I suspect he forget source= line in /etc/kismet.conf
07:27.37hrwXorA: who knows..
07:28.33XorAhrw: well thats pretty much the only thing that stops kismet_server starting and thus generates that message
07:30.28hrwgcc34.patch has 13K
07:32.18hrwDebian moves to gcc 4.1
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07:39.54XorAhrw: for what recipes?
07:40.19hrwkismet-qt for example
07:40.35hrwor other 'users still use that stuff but its dead upstream'
07:40.37XorAkismet on konsole was always superior anyway
07:41.23hrwbut users want kismet-qt which is dead
07:42.04XorAhrw: I see, maybe mv kismet-qt -> obsolete/kismet-qt
07:42.15XorAor chance its SECTION=obsolete
07:42.49XorAthen they get the chance to use it, but its clearly indicated that OZ no longer supports that
07:42.58hrwMAINTAINER="obsolete stuff which noone will support"
07:45.42XorAhrw: though I dont beleive kismet-qt is actually broken as I used to use it, if its not broke why upgrade
07:46.57hrwXorA: kismet-qt is not in OE
07:47.23hrwthe only version available is sharprom one
07:48.24XorAhrw: erp
07:48.51XorAhrw: has it really been that long since I ran it, that will be in OZ 3.2 days then
07:49.10hrw~fsck oz/opie users for using old stuff
07:49.18ibote2fsck /dev/oz/opie users for using old stuff : warning! filesystem contains idiots!
07:49.26hrw~fsck trolltech for keeping qte 2.3 for years
07:49.27ibote2fsck /dev/trolltech for keeping qte 2.3 for years : warning! filesystem contains morons!
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07:59.53chris144good morning
08:02.16hrwhi chris144
08:03.59chris144hi hrw
08:19.49_law_NOTE: package ipkg-0.99.163: completed
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08:29.30ade|deskmorning folks
08:33.20theturtlei used to have a bookmark on "how to setup a cross compiling toolchain" on how to get /usr/local/arm/gcc, etc but i've lost it... does anyone has it or know where i can find it ?
08:34.48hrw"bitbake gcc-cross" is such howto :D
08:38.24CoreDump|homemorning
08:39.27hrwhi CoreDump|home
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09:24.32lardman|workmorning
09:29.29_law_hmm how can i checkout where libeventdb0 is set? http://pastebin.com/764747
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09:40.26wrobbieHey guys, can anyone tell me what might cause a 'Cannot find package task-bootstrap'? It's for my home-grown distro, which built fine until a recent (big) OE pull.. The task-bootstrap ipk is present. Full log: http://pastebin.com/764765
09:41.05wrobbie(this is during final image build btw)
09:41.21_law_wrobbie, packages/meta
09:42.08wrobbie_law_: yeah, and it builds to an ipk ok..
09:42.34wrobbiebut can't be found at rootfs build time
09:44.11hrwre
09:45.36CoreDump|homewrobbie: make sure that your "Packages" file is up to date (recreate with bitbake -b meta/package-index.bb) and that the ARCH of your task-bootstrap.ipk is in the temporary ARCH file for ipkg
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09:49.23CIA-903mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * ra560fdf5... 10/packages/linux/ (4 files in 2 dirs): linux-ezx: first shot at backlight class driver for EZX platform
09:50.01mickeylmorning
09:50.07hrwhi mickeyl
09:51.43theturtlewhere should i post a package dependance problem  ?
09:52.41wrobbieCoreDump|home: Thanks.. task-bootstrap architecture is 'rob'. Ho-hum.. What do you mean with 'temporary ARCH file for ipkg'?
09:53.03hrwtheturtle: share us
09:53.45theturtlelibgpevtype requires libevendb >= 0.29 but 0.21 is build by default
09:53.47CoreDump|homewrobbie: during do_rootfs ipkg creates a temporary ARCH.conf containing the arches for your image. If "rob" isn't in there it will not pick up your ipk
09:55.21hrwtheturtle: I think that someone from GPE people should fix it - report it into OE bugtracker
09:55.30theturtleok
09:55.54theturtlehrw : isn't this .bb and OE related more than gpe-people related ?
09:56.13hrwtheturtle: but GPE people wrote those recipes and they maintain them
09:56.25theturtlehrw : ok
09:56.51hrwCoreDump|home: openssh does NOT start during reboot....
09:57.14wrobbieCoreDump|home: Okiedokie. But is that ARCH.conf removed when the error happened? Can't seem to find it.. I'll have a look at bb classes etc. to see how this works..
09:57.23CoreDump|homehrw: ? ssh works just fine here
09:57.35CoreDump|homewrobbie: can't remember where it is, sorry.
09:57.44RPmorning all
09:57.50wrobbieno prob
09:57.53ade|deskmorning RP
09:57.53mickeylhi RP
09:58.47hrwwrobbie: *IPKG_ARCH* in machine config
09:58.49hrwhi RP
09:59.02mickeylRP: in the mood for a GPIO question?
09:59.21RPmickeyl: why not :)
09:59.40mickeylRP: fine :) i read to not access the GPDR directly, but to use pxa_gpio_mode() instead
09:59.48mickeylRP: now what i don't understand is code doing both:
09:59.58mickeyl// configure GPIO for PWM0
09:59.58mickeyl<PROTECTED>
09:59.58mickeyl<PROTECTED>
10:00.07mickeylwhy should that be necessary?
10:00.18RPIt shouldn't. Its bad code
10:00.42RPmickeyl: Note the pxa gpio function could also have improved between 2.4 and 2.6. That looks like 2.4
10:00.49mickeylheh. what i expected. yes, it's from 2.4. would substituting it with one pxa_gpio_mode( GPIO16_PWM0_MD ) be sufficient?
10:01.07RPIt should do, yes
10:01.59mickeyli see. thanks.
10:02.06RPpxa_gpio_mode usually des everything you need. The only exception is the zaurus keyboard drivers (as they access multiple gpios at once) and some of the zaurus power management code
10:02.21mickeylthat was montavista code, btw. :D
10:03.44mickeylok, one more... why would they configure the PWM GPIO as input once they turned backlight power off? is that for power saving?
10:04.15RPyes. Less power drain that way
10:04.23mickeylah. good to know.
10:06.08_law_how can i remove gpe-today from the gpe-image? already removed it from task-gpe.bb file
10:06.33hrw_law_: create own image?
10:06.43CoreDump|home_law_: try rebuilding the task ipk and Packages
10:06.47_law_hrw, now .dev openzaurus-unstable image
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10:07.25hrw_law_: I used hrw-opie-image.bb many times (it does not even use task-bootstrap :)
10:08.07wrobbiehrw & CoreDump thanks! I added IPKG_EXTRA_ARCHS = "rob", and that did the trick..
10:08.16CoreDump|homewrobbie: ;)
10:08.34CoreDump|homehrw: oh you should see my task-hentges-opie.bb
10:09.40CoreDump|homecollections for 3 rootfs sizes (16M, 20M and =>50M)
10:10.28hrwhttp://oe.pastebin.com/764814
10:10.58mickeylhrw: excellent :D
10:11.18CoreDump|homehehe
10:11.38hrwfsck you qtopia lovers
10:12.03RPSad when we have to resort to that :-/
10:12.38hrw~lart trolltech for keeping qtopia 1.x/2.x alive for too long
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10:22.28hrwhttp://handhelds.org/scap/port.1985.png
10:22.34hrwhi Liam
10:22.59XorA:-D
10:23.04XorAhey Liam
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10:24.42lrghey XorA
10:24.57lrgXorA: testing your codec now.
10:25.50lrgXorA: btw built angstrom (with mplayer) for mainstone with iwmmxt last night. seems to work so far.....
10:26.29XorAlrg: cool, I added that cvs snapshot of mplayer as its mpeg4 decoding is faster than atty version
10:26.38_law_hrw, a dont show this dialog again checkbox would be nice...
10:27.09hrw_law_: no way
10:27.23hrw_law_: I do not have time to implement it
10:28.49lrgXorA: i used the atty version (not sure what the difference is) and  X sdl (instead of qt SDL) and enable iwmmx in the build. I still have to try and run it, although it all built ok.
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10:29.52XorAlrg: atty was originally ioptimised for arm, then the mplayer devs took the good bits of the aoptims and put them back into cvs, but didnt port the w100 driver, so I just ported the w100 driver to cvs mplayer and put it all together
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10:31.17hrwXorA: be mad enough and push w100 upstream ;)
10:31.32XorAhrw: mad?
10:31.41woglindehi hrw
10:31.42lrgXorA: good work :)
10:31.45woglindehi xora
10:32.21hrwXorA: its had to get something added to mplayer code (added by upstream from provided patch)
10:34.20woglindelol
10:34.25woglindedilbert comic
10:34.32XorAhrw: never used to be, ive had 3/4 patches accepted
10:34.34woglindehttp://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/dilbert-20060605.html
10:35.05XorAhrw: dxr3 driver stuff
10:39.43mickeyllrg: what did you do to enable iwmmxt instruction set in our toolchain?
10:42.17CoreDump|homeRP: your LED driver rocks =D
10:43.04lrgmickeyl: afaik, mainstone includes the iwmmt.conf file. I assumed this would set up the correct config to do this. Although now that your asking, I think i've built a non iwmmxt tool set. :-/
10:44.48lrghey Marcin, (just reading the back log)
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10:57.17_law_how can i reconfigure the touchscreen?
10:57.38_law_doesnt work with my latest .dev image
11:00.19RPCoreDump|afk: thanks :)
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11:19.48woglindehm makes it some sin to port qemu to a arm9 architecture with 200 mhz?
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11:26.06woglindehi ken
11:26.16kenwoglinde, morning
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11:27.46woglindehihi
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12:04.23pb__hi mickeyl
12:04.33mickeylhey pb_
12:04.52woglindehe pb
12:04.55woglindere mickeyl
12:06.08pb__hi woglinde
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12:33.30Gerrathif your just making changes to the kernel configuration file what is the best way to rebuild it using bitbake?
12:37.40mickeylcopy .config to where OE expects the defconfig
12:37.48mickeylbitbake -c clean -b <bbfile>
12:37.52mickeylbitbake -b <bbfile>
12:41.17Gerrathso that will clean the source and rebuild it with out deleteing it and downloading again, correct?
12:42.39mickeylno
12:42.44mickeylclean delets
12:42.55mickeyldownload no, because it already is in your DL_DIR
12:43.08Gerrathok.
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12:44.59mickeylif you really need to rebuild "in-place", then you could use the following which I do when I'm doing kernel developing in OE
12:45.02mickeylcd <kerneldir>
12:45.29mickeylPATH=<oecrossdir>:$PATH ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux make <target>
12:47.10mickeylthat way you can rebuild without needing top copy stuff back and forth. note that the new stuff doesn't get packaged then, it's just for copying the resulting kernel image or modules to somewhere else, e.g. an nfsroot or so
12:50.38hrwmickeyl: or work on kernel patches
12:51.07hrwbut for kernel patches I usually have whole tree copied outside of builddir
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12:51.33mickeyli do it in-place and do patcher -r && cp .patches/* <oe-tree> before doing make again
12:51.36Gerraththanks mickeyl and hrw
12:52.13hrwhttp://www.earlygirl.com/sincerely.shtml
12:52.22hrwI prefer quilt :D
12:52.55mickeylwhy is it better?
12:53.57hrwmickeyl: forking patches, snapshot patches
12:54.51hrwmickeyl: apply some patches, quilt snapshot, apply others, 'quilt diff snapshot' will make a patch of all 'others'
12:55.10mickeylhmm
12:57.18mickeyl*shrug* for my use cases patcher does it. I'll rethink about quilt next time
12:57.32hrwmickeyl: 'quilt fork' iirc create copy of uma.patch as uma-1.patch so you can have 2 versions (used once and don't rememberwhat was it)
12:58.05hrwmickeyl: I had to learn patcher or quilt - choosed quilt as it is maintained still
12:59.15hrwtime to do a break. I'm officially sick so cannot sit whole time in front of computer ;)
12:59.21mickeyloops
12:59.25mickeylget well soon
12:59.27hrwfsking flu..
12:59.43hrwI will have to get tonsils out probably
13:00.11hrwI'm getting flu 3-5 times during year - mostly on vacations...
13:01.33mickeylbad timing
13:02.23hrwcommon problem with IT people - usage of clothes not compatible with weather
13:02.37NAbyssYep.
13:02.47NAbyssI refuse to give in to the weather!
13:03.24hrwanyway will get some time to workout how to start my own business, upgrade my driver license to newest version, get new passport..
13:04.00hrwstarting from August Polish passports has to have RFID inside - time to get one without it ;D
13:04.06mickeyluh oh
13:04.07mickeylhurry
13:06.06hrw;))
13:06.12hrwbbiab
13:10.53CIA-903kristoffer 07org.oe.dev * r76de14a8... 10/packages/bootsplash/ (files/gcc-issues.patch bootsplash_3.0.7.bb):
13:10.53CIA-9bootsplash: Fixing so it builds again
13:10.53CIA-9* Gcc issues that refuses to build bootsplash should
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13:35.11RPmickeyl: I also use quilt and develop directly using the OE build directories and -c compile -f
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13:36.08RPmickeyl: We should add a kernel reconfigure task to kernel.bbclass :)
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14:12.31ade|desk~kill uclibc
14:12.32ibotACTION shoots a excited pseudoneutrino gun at uclibc
14:13.22CP|Homeexcited?
14:14.38ade|desksomething in my toolchain is hurting busybox with atexit() problems
14:15.23ade|deskyet under buildroot it works
14:16.30ade|deskthe build options for my toolchain are the same for buildroot and OE  grrrrrrr
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14:41.45chouimatmorning
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15:16.45greentuxhello rp, lrg, i am back from holiday...
15:17.11hrwhi greentux
15:17.28greentuxsorry, yes: hi hrw!
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15:18.05hrwgreentux: you coming reminded me that i have to mail rmk to get card back
15:20.56hrwheh.. when i lost ipkg status on this 512M card i have to reinstall everything...
15:21.12hrwor will cat control files into status
15:21.38greentuxhrw: ok, so the card is not working properly?
15:22.00CIA-903mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r8bd6e144... 10/packages/linux/ (linux-ezx/ezx-backlight-r0.patch linux-ezx_2.6.16.13.bb): linux-ezx: first version of backlight driver works
15:22.10hrwmy 512M one? its rather ext2 not umounted..
15:23.02greentuxhrw: no the one rmk has
15:24.15hrwiirc was working after fixes
15:24.40greentuxhrw: oh ok. nice.
15:25.58hrwgreentux: how was holidays?
15:26.06hrws/was/were
15:27.13greentuxhrw: fine, i was in russia
15:28.13hrwgreentux: european or asian part?
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15:30.19greentuxhrw: both ;) with transsib from moscow to vladivostok
15:30.46hrwlong trip
15:31.24hrwthat reminds that i need  passport.
15:31.43greentux7 days with the train, but we had a break at the baikal
15:32.47hrwwant it boring?
15:32.58hrwwhole days in train...
15:33.35greentuxno, i was supprised that is was not boring, stops every 3 or 4 hours, something to see outside, read some books etc
15:41.45chouimat"The Sofa King ----> Our price are sofa king low!!!" :)
15:42.00hrwuf. regenerated ipkg status file.
15:42.24hrwvim rule
15:44.29hrwsomeone built vim 7.x in oe?
15:46.50XorA|gonecya
15:47.44keneek, my internet connection is sucky today
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15:52.34lrghey greentux
15:53.28greentuxhi lrg
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16:11.14greentuxok, going home. cu
16:12.48hrwI saw #ifdef SASC in vim 7.0 sources and it makes me happy.
16:17.08hrwvim 7.0 built
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16:27.45hrwand it works :)
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16:35.18hrwmoin woglinde
16:35.23woglindere hrw
16:36.23woglindehrw so whats with the laptop now?
16:36.59hrwwoglinde: still not bought it
16:37.31woglindehrw *g*
16:37.36woglindebut you wanted consulting
16:38.25hrwwoglinde: yes. but now Im rather sick :(
16:38.42woglindehm
16:38.45woglindesome cold?
16:38.47hrwwoglinde: idea is: get laptop to 600EUR
16:38.57woglindehrw hm oh
16:38.59hrwyes - got flu.
16:39.09woglindeI think that will be difficult
16:39.12woglindefor a new one
16:39.26hrwhave to get good back and then rip tonsils out.
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16:39.50hrwwoglinde: i suspected that
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16:41.17woglindehrw do you want it buy in berlin or via internet?
16:41.58hrwwoglinde: first want to know what can be possible and eventually buy it during "OEDEM"
16:42.35woglindewhats oedem?
16:42.36hrwoedem - oe meeting in berlin
16:42.40woglindeoh
16:42.45woglindehm oh
16:43.11woglindewe should start organize something
16:43.14woglindeI guess
16:43.39hrwthats too probably
16:43.52hrwIbrb
16:44.45woglindebye hrw
16:45.54hrwok. Ania came
16:45.55hrwcu
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16:59.34woglindere philippe
16:59.49Philippehi woglinde
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17:05.03Servo888Now I don't want to sound mean... But I just setup OE following the wiki and I tried emerge nano, and it failed =\
17:05.24Servo888I need to spin up my drive to give out some errors so one second
17:06.18woglindeyou mean bitbake nano?
17:06.26Servo888oh yah bitbake
17:09.27Servo888http://pastebin.com/765565 | here's a pastebin
17:10.36woglindeoh
17:10.43woglindefailed at qemu
17:11.17woglindecan ypu provide your local.conf too?
17:12.35Servo888sure
17:13.03Servo888http://pastebin.com/765574
17:14.30woglindefamilar-unstable as distro is right?
17:15.16Servo888It's available in org.openembedded.dev/conf/distro/
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17:15.37Servo888Should I try just the normal familiar?
17:16.37eFfeMhi, I have a problem with -I. If I look at the temp file it says:
17:16.38eFfeMNOTE: make ARCH=armeb CPU= CPUOPT= OPT=-isystem/home/frans/OpenSlugHead4/openslug/tmp/staging/armeb-linux/include
17:16.40woglindeyes better use fiamilar
17:16.56eFfeMThe OPT part does not seem right, actually I expected something like -I /home/...
17:17.06eFfeManyone an idea where this comes from?
17:18.01Servo888If I downgrade to familiar, how do I clean bitbake to get rid of everything it's built with familiar-unstable? Or will just bitbake nano and see what happens?
17:18.19woglindebitbake clean
17:18.27woglindeargs bitbake -c clean
17:18.59woglindefor nano you can also try bitbake -b /patho.bb/packages/nano/nano.bb
17:19.00Servo888"ERROR: Remove this line or set a dummy DISTRO_VERSION if you really want to build an unversioned distro" | should I do that?
17:19.45ade|deskServo888: or you could use qemu that is on your distro
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17:19.46woglindeyes zecke
17:19.46ade|deskand set assume_provided
17:19.49zeckehey
17:19.53zeckehelo moto :}
17:19.58woglindeoh no
17:20.26zeckewoglinde: do we see us tomorrow?
17:21.07Servo888ade|desk, qemu? I don't follow - how is an emulator related to familiar?
17:21.44zeckeoh koen leave already?
17:21.57zeckeServo888: generating of locales using qemu
17:22.07zeckeServo888: as it takes >128 MB of RAM on the target device
17:22.34zeckeServo888: familiar decided/was forced to use qemu with the just compiled libc, to do the conversion when compiling, instead of postponing it
17:24.41woglindezecke if you want
17:24.51woglindeI will be 13.30 at the wursbude
17:25.01woglindeor doenerstand
17:26.56ade|desktime to go home
17:27.00ade|deskcya folks
17:27.20eFfeMi think i found the cause of my problem, need some expert advice on how to fix this. from bitbake.conf:
17:27.21eFfeMconf/bitbake.conf:export TARGET_CPPFLAGS = "-isystem${STAGING_DIR}/${TARGET_SYS}/include"
17:28.06eFfeMthis does not seem ok. Shouldn't it be something like :export TARGET_CPPFLAGS = "-I ${STAGING_DIR}/${TARGET_SYS}/include"
17:28.23zeckeeFfeM: what issue?
17:28.33zeckeeFfeM: stuff that is broken with -isystem is broken :)
17:28.53zeckeeFfeM: this -isystem will put the included into the searchpath at the last position
17:29.21eFfeMzecke: I have a problem compiling util-linux with gcc 4.1.1 but it fails to compile mount because unistd.h is not found
17:30.08eFfeMzecke: should there be a space between system and the / from /home ?
17:30.48eFfeMman says:   -isystem dir
17:30.54eFfeMthis at least suggests a space
17:31.05zeckeeFfeM: you put -I/foo as well, but try :)
17:32.32eFfeMzecke, not me, I always use -I /foo with a space inbetween
17:33.07zeckeeFfeM: please try with a space
17:33.17zeckeeFfeM: alternatively run make with strace and follow forks
17:33.19eFfeMyes will do
17:33.21zeckeeFfeM: and mail it to me :)
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17:40.29eFfeMzecke, space does not help, how can I easily run make with strace? I normally only build through bitbake
17:42.20zeckeeFfeM: edit the shell file directly :)
17:42.37zeckeeFfeM: in the WORKDIR/tmp you have run do compile and add an strace into oe_runmake()
17:43.07eFfeMok
17:54.58eFfeMzecke: haev the strace output, where do you want me to send it to ?
17:56.03zeckeeFfeM: did you follow forks?
17:56.13zeckeeFfeM: please take a look and search for unistd.h
17:56.23zeckeeFfeM: and where it searched for it...
17:57.05zeckeeFfeM: oh and did it compile with -nostdinc or such?
17:58.32eFfeMoops, no follow forks
17:58.36eFfeMredoing with -f
17:59.31woglindeefem really?
17:59.37woglindethe first time?
18:00.26zeckedid people ever use v7? :}
18:00.41eFfeMactually i think it is the second time, gave it a try last week for another issue ...
18:00.46eFfeMyes!
18:01.02woglindeeffem than you should know about ltrace too
18:01.25zeckewoglinde: ltrace is broken on ARM and I didn't find the time to fix it :}
18:01.37woglindezecke you bastard *g*
18:01.37zeckewoglinde: Debian is about to die? more and more people start using Ubuntu
18:01.45woglindezecke now way
18:01.49woglinde-w
18:02.05zeckewoglinde: steve and two others upgrade to ubuntu :)
18:02.11woglindeif debian dies ubuntu dies to
18:02.30woglindeI heard a cool joke
18:02.34zeckewoglinde: maybe in a decade or two, once etch's feature set is finalised
18:02.37woglindewhats mean ubuntu?
18:02.45zeckewoglinde: they might consider switching back
18:02.51zeckewoglinde: die debian die :)
18:02.53woglindeit's african word for "cant configure debian"
18:03.11zeckeeFfeM: 'did' minix ST?
18:03.26zeckewoglinde: so debootstrap is Ubuntu?
18:03.36zeckewoglinde: as debootstrap can't even chroot...
18:03.53woglindezecke bah
18:04.06zeckewoglinde: so debootstrap is ubuntu
18:04.14zeckewoglinde: but debootstrap is just a bad wrapper around wget
18:04.19zeckewoglinde: so ubuntu means wget?
18:04.44woglindezecke do you want fishes? nice little fishes?
18:04.45zeckewoglinde: this -arch option for debootstrap is ridicoulous
18:04.46eFfeMzecke it gets unistd.h from /home/frans/OpenSlugHead4/openslug/tmp/staging/armeb-linux/include/unistd.h
18:05.10zeckeeFfeM: is that SuperH?
18:05.15zeckeeFfeM: oh sorry :}
18:05.19eFfeMthis one does not contain __NR_umount2; it is in the asm/unistd.h version
18:05.56zeckeeFfeM: then mount should include <asm/unistd.h>?
18:06.19woglindehm I tought never include directly from asm
18:06.21zeckeeFfeM: as this mount is pretty linux specific it should be okay
18:06.34eFfeMzecke "did minix ST" is perhaps too loosely formulated. I've done most of the patches and testing of minix 1.5 on atari st taking the ST 1.1 version and Tanenbaum's PC patches as a starter
18:06.56zeckeeFfeM: ah okay, ST is Atari then
18:06.57zeckekewl
18:07.00eFfeMzecke, I think so, but it works with gcc 3.4.4
18:07.15zeckeeFfeM: I hope to port minix to ARM in class...
18:07.24zeckeeFfeM: it does? unistd.h should come from libc right?
18:07.37woglindeeffem in we winterterm zecke and I will attend operating systems
18:07.48woglindeeffem and the last courses were hold on minix
18:08.01zeckewoglinde: well I  have programmed minix when i was 12 :}
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18:08.10gremlin[it]hi all
18:08.17woglindezecke you never told me
18:08.23woglindehi gremlin
18:08.26zeckeeFfeM: http://www.busybox.net/downloads/patches/svn-780.patch
18:08.31zeckewoglinde: hehe, I'm sure I did
18:08.36gremlin[it]just a question ... oe was 'moved' to monotone 0.25 ?
18:08.42zeckewoglinde: first I got Design and Implementation of linux 1.2
18:08.55zeckewoglinde: and then Modern Operating Systems, and this Minix book
18:09.03zeckewoglinde: from the 'Statdbibliothek' :}
18:09.06woglindezecke no you didnt
18:09.25zeckewoglinde: I did, specially because I offered to give the book to you
18:09.33zeckewoglinde: well, I didn't get most of the stuff at that time
18:10.14zeckeoh well back to physics :}
18:10.20zeckecya in an hour
18:10.35zeckeeFfeM: it looks like other people have patches for this error...
18:10.53eFfeMzecke, i stand corrected did find the wrong call from unistd.h, the one for my file seems to be
18:10.54eFfeM/home/frans/OpenSlugHead4/openslug/tmp/staging/armeb-linux/include/asm/unistd.h
18:11.09gremlin[it]ops error ... monotone 0.26 ... i upgraded my workstation to FC5 so i'm looking what version of monotone i have to install
18:11.31eFfeMcode in mount/umount.c is:
18:11.31eFfeM#include <linux/unistd.h>
18:11.32eFfeM#ifdef __NR_umount2
18:11.32eFfeMstatic int umount2(const char *path, int flags);
18:12.00zeckehmm later :}
18:12.04zecke*physics*
18:12.16eFfeMgcc 4.1.1 complains about the static, because unistd.h has umount2 without the static
18:12.45eFfeMphysics. <grin> (when I was at uni I would have said physics *sigh*)
18:12.59Zero_ChaosI'm looking for a place to buy SLC-1000 or SLC3XXX that isn't ebay.... anyone?
18:13.02eFfeMback in 10 mins
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18:30.17CosmicPenguinI wonder if all 2GB cards are >= v4.2 of the spec?  If so, we could
18:30.17CosmicPenguindo what would appear correct to both the spec and reality, and select
18:30.17CosmicPenguin512 byte blocksizes irrespective if they conform to v4.2 or later.
18:30.18CosmicPenguinyay
18:30.20CosmicPenguinfinally
18:33.22chouimatwow the system now boot in runlevel 6 ....
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18:43.11Zero_Chaosanyone know where I can buy a newer zaurus besides ebay?
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19:50.30ken+                       output = *((unsigned short *) dest);
19:50.30ken+                       output = output++;
19:50.42kendoh
19:52.14zeckelol
19:52.42zeckewhere is the fixpoint for that
19:52.57kenI talked about bootsplash last night remember
19:53.16eFfeMhi zecke
19:53.19kenIt had some issues and I replaced the first line with the second line
19:53.20woglindere effem
19:53.24eFfeMfinished with the physics?
19:54.08eFfeMfound the problem, gcc 4.1.1. with the std settings did not like a redeclaration of umount with static declarator
19:54.09zeckeeFfeM: I declared the assignment done :}
19:54.12eFfeMmade a patch
19:54.18zeckenice :)
19:54.29zeckeI love how -isystem gets blamed at random
19:54.55eFfeMsorry, actually I was unaware of -isystem
19:55.16zeckeeFfeM: well it was unaware to me as well
19:55.24zeckeeFfeM: until I watched compiling of gcc
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19:56.00zeckeokay need to 'work' now :}
19:56.11zeckeI wish this term would end...
19:56.21zeckewoglinde: I won't do any summer course this autumn...
19:56.38zeckewoglinde: I try to get the VD done and leave Physics 'Praktikum' for the winter
19:57.55zeckemickey|bbiab: do you think I should ask for Qtopia GPL again?
19:57.57eFfeMactually have to catch up with 15 yrs being away from *nix systems
19:58.01zeckemickey|bbiab: or will you help me?
19:58.19zeckeeFfeM: I have never used any non unix system :}
19:58.29zeckeeFfeM: well do, but I didn't know what a system was...
19:59.04eFfeMi fear i did dos as well as vms and several other systems
20:00.03eFfeMmanaged to recompile the kernel with gcc 4.1.1, on nslu2 (be) still need to test my work
20:00.09woglindevms rockz
20:00.22eFfeMvms causes rsi with those long options
20:00.31woglindersi?
20:00.38kenAny ETA on the 2.6.17 kernel? :) been waiting like hell for it a couple of weeks
20:01.04eFfeMback to the movie
20:01.10chris144nite folks
20:01.13woglindeeffem which movie?
20:01.17woglindenite chriss
20:01.22chris144nitge woglinde
20:01.59eFfeMwaterworld
20:02.05eFfeMhave seen it already
20:02.10eFfeMbut quite a long time ago
20:02.11eFfeMdutch tv
20:02.41woglindehehe
20:03.33zeckeeFfeM: awesome
20:03.47zeckeeFfeM: why can't I run make openslug from my openslug install?
20:04.03zeckeeFfeM: it claims it is 'done'
20:07.47eFfeMzecke, I use make openslug-image
20:07.59eFfeMi don't rebuild all the packages
20:08.00zeckethat works?
20:08.07eFfeMyes
20:08.13zeckeeFfeM: I want to build everything
20:08.22eFfeMpull the master makefile, do make setup, then run make
20:08.34zeckehmm
20:09.04eFfeMi think you should do make openslug-image openslug-packages
20:09.11eFfeM(from quickly looking at the makefile
20:09.17eFfeMotherwise ask rwhitby
20:09.30eFfeMback later
20:22.07kenAnyone object if i putup a svn version of scummvm? the current is abit old, (0.61 against the new 0.89)
20:24.12Gerrathsimple question: after I do "bitbake app" and the app is built how do I install the app into my rootfs image?
20:24.49kenGerrath, when you are running your rootfs or before?
20:25.03CosmicPenguinyou need to add it to the list of packages in your meta .bb
20:25.04woglindegerrath start the rootfs and run ipkg
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20:26.12Gerrathok, so two solutions: add it to a.bb already being built or mount the rootfs and run ipkg.
20:26.40CosmicPenguinI think they mean, if your target is running, then just use ipkg
20:26.55Gerrathyes, sorry.
20:26.56kenGerrath, or you can add it to your distro file
20:26.57CIA-903eFfeM 07org.oe.dev * r99f9fc9e... 10/packages/util-linux/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
20:26.57CIA-9util-linux: gcc 4.1.1 did not like umount being redeclared as static
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20:26.57CIA-9<PROTECTED>
20:27.06CosmicPenguinMounting the rootfs would only work if you're playing with the same architecture as your build system
20:27.22GerrathI was thinking NFS when I made that comment.
20:27.34woglindeyeah nfsroot
20:28.23Gerrathif I add it to a .bb were is the cleanest place to do that?
20:29.20CosmicPenguinin the meta file that builds your image
20:31.40GerrathCosmicPenguin, you mean the build/conf file or the actual .bb file for building the kernel image, or in the /conf/machine file?
20:32.06CosmicPenguinthe .bb for building the image
20:32.14CosmicPenguinnot the kernel image - but the whole enchiilada
20:39.37cbrakeGerrath: check out the oe/packages/meta directory
20:40.27cbrakeGerrath: basically a meta package is just a package that depends on a bunch of other packages, thus forcing them all to be built and included in an image.
20:57.19kenwhy is /dev/dsp missing from the bootstrap-image?
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20:59.19kenOr rather what package handles what devices that gets created
20:59.56CosmicPenguinthat depends on many factors
21:00.34kenCosmicPenguin, what factors?.. I basicly just want to get a couple of more devices in there
21:00.58CosmicPenguinwell, are you using 2.4 or 2.6?  udev or not?  jffs2 or something else?
21:01.00CosmicPenguinmany factors
21:01.34zeckeken: device_table?
21:01.40kenzecke, yeah thats it
21:01.43kenwhere can i find it
21:01.51zeckeken: not in packages?
21:01.53zecke!
21:02.04ken?
21:02.10zeckefiles/
21:02.10zeckedevice_table-minimal.txt        device_table-unslung.txt
21:02.10zeckedevice_table-slugos.txt
21:02.16kenah doh
21:02.23kenzecke, thx man
21:02.25zeckeken: probably used by base files or such
21:02.37zeckeken: I don't know if the 'overrides' just apply
21:03.10kenbut should be alright to just put a jlime device table list there.., and hopefully it will grab it for all images
21:04.16zeckeken: jlime yes
21:04.53zeckegrep -rni device_table *
21:05.43zeckeken: hmm, we should make OVERRIDES apply to this file :}
21:05.57zeckenot now though :}
21:06.05zeckenot me now...
21:06.31kenhaha
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21:24.51zeckenite
21:24.59woglindenite zecke
21:27.22Zero_Chaoswhat is different between zaurus 3100 or 3000?
21:28.06CosmicPenguinabout 100
21:28.07CosmicPenguinhehe
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21:28.50woglindehi thejapa
21:28.52woglinde:)
21:29.02thejapawoglinde: hi man
21:29.07thejapagot lpi 101 today
21:29.13thejapatomorrow is 102
21:29.40thejapadamn, keeping 2 build trees for openembedded takes almost 8gb
21:30.15woglindethejapa hm
21:30.24woglindemultiarch.conf?
21:30.34kergothcan take a hell of a lot more than that, depending on what you're building :)
21:30.52kergothlast time i did a world it was like 20-25, and that was around a year ago :)
21:30.58thejapano, I just made two dirs, one to build familiar other for openzaurus
21:31.01kergoths/world/world build/
21:31.11woglindethejapa ah hm
21:33.00thejapakergoth: i believe in you. :( sum that with gentoo running in a 40gb harddrive and you got a serious problem with space.
21:33.50CosmicPenguinbetter then needing 4g of memory for one build like we used to... :)
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21:34.43thejapacp: jeez
21:34.48thejapagot only 512mb
21:34.55CosmicPenguinthose were the days
21:35.33woglindethejapa why you are using gentoo?
21:36.11kergothhehe
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21:37.35thejapaoh. you mean, why I'm not using debian?
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21:39.18woglindethejappa YES
21:39.19woglinde*g*
21:39.43thejapawoglinde: right, I find it easier to answer than the original question.
21:40.04kenAny good way to change the default background on opie-image?
21:40.10thejapaI always step into weird dependencies in debian, we got some sort of non-resolved issue, debian and I
21:40.30woglindethejapa hm?
21:40.39thejapalast time I tried it, when I did apt-get install kdevelop, it uninstalled gnome
21:40.41woglindeI always wait some days and than they are fixe
21:40.42woglinded
21:40.49woglindehehe
21:40.52woglindethats nice
21:40.57woglindedont like gnome
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21:41.29thejapai don't have patience for that. so, gentoo does the trick.
21:41.55thejapai love fedora too, but when it comes to compile stuff, i guess it gives too much work.
21:42.03woglindethejapa dont have the time to wait if xserver is compiled after bumbing some minor number
21:43.17woglindeokay
21:43.22woglindewill go to bed now
21:43.41woglindenite all
21:50.17kenWhere can I change the default opie-image background?
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22:04.17LaibschIs there a conflict mechanism for OE packages?
22:10.51CoreDump|homehi
22:11.23kenCoreDump|home, hey :)
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22:30.22rwhitbyLaibsch: yep, and there is an alternatives mechanism for individual files too.
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22:32.03Laibschrwhitby: Thanks.
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22:37.19kenI want to get all modules included in /lib/modules on my opie-image, do I need to do RDEPEND and such for every module I want included?
22:38.23thejapaken: you want to do it for every opie-image you build?
22:38.31thejapaor just for a particular one?
22:38.56thejapasorry, was a stupid question I guess.
22:39.12kenevery image :)
22:39.49kenIt's just a hassle to put every module in rdepend. Would like something like "include_all_modules_in_image = yes"
22:41.27CosmicPenguinthere is a meta kernel module package
22:42.36kenSo, I simply put that as an RDEPEND instead?
22:42.59CosmicPenguinyep
22:43.10kennicy, thx man
22:48.51kenCosmicPenguin, cant find that package , where is it?
22:49.41CosmicPenguinI can't remember how it is build - it might be by configuration
22:50.06kenoki, will look through the other distro files then
22:53.05kergothhmm, scons is damn cool
22:53.29kenCosmicPenguin, btw you dont happen to know where the default opie image is kept?..or which package that handles it?
22:56.03thejapaken: you mean the .bb file?
22:56.09kenyeah
22:56.15thejapamarcosu@wanderer /stuff/org.openembedded.dev $ find . -iname "*opie-image*"
22:56.15thejapa./packages/meta/opie-image.bb
22:56.16kenthe package that sets the default background
22:56.22thejapaoh, sorry
22:56.32kenah, thx anyways
22:56.48kergothit's probably in opie-common or something.  /me hasnt looked at opie in ages though
22:56.53CosmicPenguinsorry -I don't play with OPIE
22:57.14kenoki, its driving me nuts that I got 3x opie backgrounds due to the jornada being 640x240
22:58.08kergoththeres a var in oe that it obeys to indicate that you have a large screen..
22:58.12kergothmaybe you just need to set that
22:58.16kergothcheck the various machine .conf's
22:58.42Zero_Chaoswhat are SLC-3000 and SLC-3100 called?
22:58.49NAbyssZero_Chaos: spitz and borzoi
22:59.05NAbyssthe latter just uses the spitz config in OZ
22:59.06Zero_ChaosNAbyss: I thought SLC-1000 was spitz?
22:59.15NAbyssZero_Chaos: 1000 is akita
22:59.19Zero_Chaosright, right
22:59.31NAbysstoo many dog names..
22:59.34Zero_ChaosNAbyss: so for either 3000 or 3100 I use spitz conf?
23:00.31kenkergoth, ah thx
23:01.48NAbyssZero_Chaos: Yes
23:01.52NAbyssMACHINE=spitz
23:01.57Zero_ChaosNAbyss: thanks
23:01.59NAbyssnp
23:02.09Zero_Chaosand does that model support kernel 2.6?
23:02.37NAbyssZero_Chaos: Yes, as of oz3.5.4.1-rc*, and org.oe.dev
23:02.46Zero_Chaosawesome
23:02.51NAbyssKERNEL_VERSION = "2.6"
23:02.55NAbyssI've been using it since about November
23:03.06NAbyssPossibly Dec/Jan
23:03.09NAbyssI'm useless with time.
23:03.26Zero_Chaosdo we have an rt2570 driver in oe?
23:03.37NAbyssWhat kind of device is that?
23:03.45Zero_ChaosNAbyss: USB wifi adapter
23:03.57Zero_Chaoslinux compatable, blah blah blah
23:04.13NAbyssZero_Chaos: Is that the module name in linux?
23:04.23Zero_ChaosNAbyss: and the project name
23:04.58Zero_Chaosdoesn't look like it
23:05.08Zero_Chaosguess I'll get to make it :-)
23:05.18NAbyssHmm, there's no kernel-module-rt2570.. just edit the defconfig :)
23:05.27Zero_ChaosNAbyss: it's not in the kernel
23:05.48NAbysstmp/work/spitz-linux/linux-openzaurus-2.6.16-r34/defconfig-spitz
23:05.50NAbyssAh, smeg.
23:07.54kenkergoth, you know a good way to add all modules to an opie-image, aside from using RDEPEND for each module?
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23:25.07kergothken: as someone told you earlier, you should be able to just pull in the kernel module meta package.  iirc its called kernel-modules
23:25.29kenoki, thx
23:44.23thejapahaha
23:44.41thejapaa whole week modifying the wrong local.conf file is fun
23:45.08thejapathat's why things never build correctly
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23:59.35kenthejapa, hehe

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