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| 00:37.13 | CSMan | is this a harmful mesage? : one_wire_reset: OWM reset failed -110 (0x000c) |
| 00:38.31 | mreimer | CSMan: not harmful. Just means that 1wire (battery monitor bus) wasn't able to reset. It may work later, or at worst, your battery monitoring won't work. |
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| 00:42.04 | CSMan | mreimer: curiously it happens everytime i insmod mmc_asic3 |
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| 00:59.36 | CSMan | there's such thing as hard reset when you run linux on handhelds, right ? |
| 01:00.35 | thejapa | csman: sometimes when I suspend my h2200 (familiar 2.6.15-hh0 - matt's build, unpatched yet) it does hard reset. |
| 01:01.04 | thejapa | but in my case, Matt patched it, I just didn't applied it yet. |
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| 03:13.47 | Malakai | Anyone here use IDA pro and know how to define 'constants' in it? say I want to identity 0x53000000 as WTCON |
| 03:24.03 | Malakai | nm, figured it out |
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| 05:52.31 | Malakai | I'd like to test boot-loaders w/o changing the flash code. |
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| 07:13.12 | nemu_1 | does anybody know howto solve the problem ? when i executed "bitbake gpe-image", i got the following error message. "configure-target-libstdc++-v3: error: Link tests are not allowed after GCC_NO_EXECUTABLES." |
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| 07:14.06 | nemu_1 | my machine is tosa(org.openembedded.oz354x). |
| 07:15.15 | nemu_1 | i found the gcc problem while the googling. |
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| 07:20.35 | nemu_1 | it gives the same error if i use the other version. |
| 07:21.34 | nemu_1 | i check the log message about gcc-cross-4.0.0-r1/gcc-cross-initial-3.4.4-r3. |
| 07:22.58 | nemu_1 | i found the some strange at the gcc-cross-initial-3.4.4-r3 log message. |
| 07:23.29 | XorA | morning |
| 07:23.53 | nemu_1 | checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c |
| 07:23.53 | nemu_1 | *** This configuration is not supported in the following subdirectories: |
| 07:24.07 | nemu_1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:24.07 | nemu_1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:26.12 | nemu_1 | but i dont know. why i got this message. i suspect my bitbake config or other environment(database ..etc). |
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| 07:27.14 | nemu_1 | does anybody know why i got this problem ? 'ĪŅ' help me plz :) |
| 07:27.40 | XorA | nemu_1: the one time Ive seen autoconf throw out a message like that I bitbaked install-native |
| 07:30.04 | nemu_1 | XorA : howto solve that . |
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| 07:31.14 | nemu_1 | XorA : i got that message during "bitbake gpe-image". |
| 07:32.32 | XorA | nemu_1: that is wierd, Im trying to work out if that message means your /usr/bin/install is not bsd compatible or if it is complaining it is |
| 07:32.41 | XorA | nemu_1: you on a fairly standard linux distro? |
| 07:32.49 | XorA | nemu_1: and is install installed |
| 07:33.35 | nemu_1 | XorA : my distro debian etch(testing) release. and i have the install |
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| 07:34.05 | XorA | nemu_1: what machine/distro you compiling for as I use etch and thats a new one on me :-) |
| 07:34.59 | nemu_1 | XorA : tosa / 3.5.4 and path = org.openembedded.oz354x |
| 07:35.35 | nemu_1 | XorA : bpda:/home/stuff# install --version |
| 07:35.35 | nemu_1 | install (GNU coreutils) 5.94 |
| 07:37.26 | nemu_1 | XorA : pda model = SL-6000L |
| 07:38.57 | XorA | nemu_1: hmm, branch build, I dont use them, hrw|gone when he returns might have some ideas as thats his baby |
| 07:39.46 | nemu_1 | XorA : branch build ? |
| 07:40.19 | nemu_1 | XorA : can i select another type for build ? |
| 07:41.33 | XorA | nemu_1: you are using the stable branch for release, I use the unstable branch, but thats not advised if you want a working system and are new to OE |
| 07:42.19 | XorA | nemu_1: so you have MACHINE="tosa" DISTRO="openzaurus-3.5.4.1" in your local.conf? |
| 07:43.46 | nemu_1 | XorA : i input MACHINE = "tosa" DISTRO="openzaurus" DISTRO_VERSION="3.5.4" |
| 07:48.18 | XorA | nemu_1: ok, maybe that is the new syntax, I havent been keeping up |
| 07:48.36 | XorA | nemu_1: then your problem is very strange |
| 07:48.46 | XorA | nemu_1: I am clueless as to what would cause it |
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| 07:49.02 | nemu_1 | XorA : mmm |
| 07:51.23 | XorA | nemu_1: hang around though, the brainier people should start logging onto this channel in next half hour ir so |
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| 07:52.10 | nemu_1 | XorA : ic. thank you for your help. :-) |
| 07:52.24 | XorA | nemu_1: not much help really :-D |
| 07:53.01 | XorA | nemu_1: you might want to pastebin the log to make it easier to point people to |
| 07:53.06 | XorA | ~pastebin |
| 07:53.13 | ibot | methinks pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/, or http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or for #oe use http://oe.pastebin.com, or http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/ |
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| 07:54.32 | nemu_1 | XorA : thank you. where do u live ? :) i live in korea. so, my english isn't good enough chat with u. |
| 08:02.32 | XorA | nemu_1: Im in Scotland (UK) |
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| 08:11.06 | nemu_1 | XorA : nice to meet u. :) |
| 08:11.14 | zecke | hey |
| 08:11.33 | nemu_1 | :) |
| 08:14.28 | zecke | http://www.tigert.com/archives/2006/06/08/mugshot-and-such/ |
| 08:14.39 | zecke | wow the first classic desktop folk to finally get what is going to happen... |
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| 08:26.46 | zecke | lpotter: do you think you can answer on the Qtopia interest mail? |
| 08:27.17 | zecke | lpotter: or should the community just use Gtk+ and treat Qtopia like Windows Mobile...with less quality :} |
| 08:28.33 | lpotter | we are coming up with an offical response but I have been sick this week |
| 08:28.43 | zecke | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:28.52 | zecke | lpotter: don't infect your child |
| 08:29.02 | lpotter | already have |
| 08:29.05 | zecke | :( |
| 08:29.09 | lpotter | and to top it off, he has rubella |
| 08:29.15 | zecke | all three get well |
| 08:29.38 | zecke | german measles... hmm |
| 08:29.59 | zecke | I feel insulted :) |
| 08:30.08 | lpotter | ya, amazingly its not even related to measles at all |
| 08:30.40 | zecke | lpotter: official, like really official |
| 08:30.58 | zecke | like Mr. H. F. we revoke you the right to use Qt under the terms of GPL |
| 08:30.59 | zecke | :) |
| 08:31.53 | NAbyss | what's going on? |
| 08:32.45 | lpotter | heh.. nothing like that |
| 08:33.05 | zecke | NAbyss: nothing, I try to poke TT to release Qtopia GPL |
| 08:33.35 | zecke | NAbyss: or at least get an official statement that Qtopia GPL will not be released and the community should piss off |
| 08:34.15 | zecke | the favorable would be Qtopia GPL and commitment to regulary release GPL versions |
| 08:34.17 | NAbyss | zecke: Hmm, I thought it's already out there? Or is what OPIE uses != Qtopia? |
| 08:34.27 | lpotter | he means qtopia 4 |
| 08:34.34 | NAbyss | Ahh |
| 08:34.39 | zecke | NAbyss: yes Qtopia4.1 |
| 08:35.28 | zecke | NAbyss: because "why not use Qtopia directly" comes up every now and then |
| 08:35.42 | zecke | NAbyss: and until now this is simply not possible without creating Opie' |
| 08:36.06 | NAbyss | zecke: TT's been fairly quiet on the GPL front with embedded platforms? |
| 08:36.22 | zecke | NAbyss: Qtopia Core (QtE) is GPL, Qtopia 'platform' not |
| 08:36.28 | NAbyss | Ahh. |
| 08:36.38 | NAbyss | That explains it :) |
| 08:36.51 | zecke | NAbyss: and I blame it on (without really knowing) the ~40 embedded guys fearing Free Software/Open Source |
| 08:37.23 | zecke | NAbyss: well, imagine we would port Opie to Qt4. People would continue to request using Qtopia directly... which is more than impossible |
| 08:37.40 | NAbyss | Yep |
| 08:37.45 | zecke | NAbyss: and is not only due lack of sourcecode, add no way to get a patch accepted as they work in Qtopia4.x+2 already |
| 08:38.01 | zecke | NAbyss: and the stuff you patch has been patched already... |
| 08:38.08 | NAbyss | That's a bit dodgy.. |
| 08:38.43 | zecke | "Feel free to patch, we do it differently now anyway" |
| 08:38.43 | NAbyss | I assume they don't treat their commercial customers with the same contempt as they do the FOSS crowd? |
| 08:38.47 | lpotter | its not as bad as zecke makes it sound |
| 08:38.50 | zecke | is atively creating a 'fork' |
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| 08:39.03 | zecke | NAbyss: I think they lack the resources |
| 08:39.11 | emte | with the price TT charges for licensing i would hope not |
| 08:39.29 | hrw | morning |
| 08:39.31 | zecke | NAbyss: and many people in Oslo (as they work on KDE) think they have a good connection to the community |
| 08:40.03 | zecke | lpotter: please consider opening the 'opie-forum' archive and let people judge who was interested in cooperation :) |
| 08:40.06 | hrw | reading backlog adds new quotes to my taglines |
| 08:40.16 | zecke | anyway :) |
| 08:40.18 | zecke | hrw: heh? |
| 08:40.33 | hrw | whats mean ubuntu? |
| 08:40.33 | hrw | it's african word for "can't configure debian" |
| 08:40.43 | NAbyss | Hehehe |
| 08:40.47 | hrw | or: as it is Free Software, it is done when enough people helped to make it done |
| 08:40.47 | zecke | hehe |
| 08:40.56 | nemu_1 | hrw : plz check above my problem. |
| 08:41.10 | hrw | nemu_1: DISTRO="openzaurus-3.5.4.1" and then recheck |
| 08:41.18 | emte | ubuntu means unstable debian with no decent packages availible |
| 08:41.21 | nemu_1 | hrw : yeah |
| 08:41.21 | NAbyss | zecke: Hmm, if they lack the resources... I don't see why they don't just open things to the same extent they do with Qt on the desktop.. |
| 08:41.23 | lpotter | you guys should rename this channel #criticism |
| 08:41.39 | zecke | lpotter: I prefer sarcasm :) |
| 08:41.56 | lpotter | well, sarcasm doesnt come across e* too well |
| 08:42.02 | hrw | larting TT again? |
| 08:42.06 | emte | kergoth, would probably call it entertainment |
| 08:42.13 | zecke | NAbyss: e.g. the community is likely to use more modern stuff |
| 08:42.18 | emte | :) |
| 08:42.21 | zecke | NAbyss: e.g. gcc 4.1 vs gcc 2.95 |
| 08:42.32 | zecke | NAbyss: Linux2.6 vs. 2.2 |
| 08:42.41 | lpotter | fud |
| 08:42.45 | lpotter | *cough |
| 08:42.55 | hrw | zecke: qtopia support even 2.2? I was thinking that 2.0.36 was last supported.. |
| 08:43.04 | zecke | NAbyss: or experiment with uclibc |
| 08:43.29 | zecke | NAbyss: and I understand that TT has not the resources to always test the latest version (they have had for Qt - Harri Porten) |
| 08:43.39 | hrw | heh 2.0.36... first kernel which I cross-compiled.. |
| 08:43.39 | NAbyss | Ahh.. |
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| 08:43.50 | zecke | NAbyss: but I do not understand the value that a community can give/has |
| 08:44.13 | zecke | lpotter: Qt is not compiling with gcc4, Qt is broken (aliases) with gcc 3.3 or 3.4 |
| 08:44.23 | zecke | lpotter: for the later issue we have a patch thanks to Paul |
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| 08:44.28 | lpotter | qt4 compiles fine |
| 08:44.29 | NAbyss | zecke: I can see why they'd be cautios, if one person or two are driving the community support in TT, and those people don't deal with Qt/e |
| 08:44.31 | zecke | lpotter: the former is quite easy to fix |
| 08:45.25 | zecke | lpotter: Is the office in already opened? |
| 08:45.51 | lpotter | which office? |
| 08:46.05 | zecke | lpotter: sorry, the office in berlin :) |
| 08:46.25 | lpotter | not real sure |
| 08:46.43 | lpotter | your closer. go check :) |
| 08:47.40 | zecke | lpotter: This is what I plan to do but it is far out... |
| 08:48.20 | emte | cant you phone em? |
| 08:49.15 | NAbyss | zecke: Oh, what's happening w/ the survey stuff? Still need the analysis done for the site? |
| 08:49.36 | zecke | yes |
| 08:49.43 | zecke | but now my time is up... |
| 08:49.50 | zecke | need to start working my ass off *now* |
| 08:49.54 | NAbyss | zecke: I can work on it if wanted.. |
| 08:50.04 | zecke | lpotter: I would welcome a soonish release of Qtopia GPL |
| 08:50.14 | zecke | NAbyss: ask hrw, mickeyl, RP for the raw data :) |
| 08:50.45 | NAbyss | zecke: Shall do |
| 08:52.28 | hrw | hmm.. I'm md5suming dvdr media to check does my 8year old toshiba drive can read them and looks like some files are unreadable ;( |
| 08:53.14 | lpotter | even if it doesnt compile? |
| 08:53.25 | zecke | yes |
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| 08:53.55 | hrw | lpotter: qtopia core 2.3.12 does not compile out-of-box too so what difference? |
| 08:54.25 | hrw | I can say that we are used to this |
| 08:55.35 | zecke | lpotter: and this is not criticism, it can happen, as you can't test all configurations |
| 08:56.55 | lpotter | 2.3.12 is only available in qtopia sources |
| 08:57.06 | zecke | lpotter: and doesn't compile :) |
| 08:57.09 | lpotter | last i checked it compiles fine |
| 08:57.18 | zecke | lpotter: no way it is compiling with gcc4 |
| 08:57.24 | zecke | lpotter: no way it is working with gcc 3.4 |
| 08:58.16 | lpotter | and I suppose qt 4 is supposed to compile with gcc 6? |
| 08:59.06 | hrw | lpotter: qte 2.3.12 was released in 2005 year. patches to get it working with compilers from 2005 was available. |
| 08:59.14 | zecke | lpotter: as I said this is no criticim |
| 08:59.31 | lpotter | just because its available doesnt mean its stable |
| 08:59.49 | lpotter | qt 2 was developed in 1999 *cough* |
| 09:00.04 | lardman|work | hi chaps |
| 09:00.15 | zecke | lpotter: the change that broke Qt2 for gcc4 was done for Keypad Edition ;) |
| 09:01.32 | lpotter | so dont define that |
| 09:01.54 | zecke | lpotter: well... this is unconditionally broken |
| 09:02.04 | zecke | lpotter: and sorry, I think it was done for the Fullscreen Input method |
| 09:02.08 | lpotter | or use a less recent compiler like what is supported by qt3 |
| 09:02.19 | lpotter | err qt2 |
| 09:02.23 | zecke | lpotter: lol |
| 09:02.34 | zecke | lpotter: the point was, we are used to Qt2 and Qtopia not working |
| 09:02.40 | zecke | lpotter: on the configurations we want it to work |
| 09:03.00 | zecke | lpotter: sooner or later your paying customers will use these configurations as well |
| 09:03.17 | zecke | lpotter: and all I want to say is. It is better to break on us and send patches |
| 09:03.27 | zecke | lpotter: then it is breaking on your paying customers |
| 09:06.44 | zecke | lpotter: e.g. in your server you include "wait.h" but wait.h moved to the pda subdir |
| 09:07.01 | zecke | lpotter: this breaks for me when compiling, but not for you, these things can just happen |
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| 09:10.52 | CoreDump|home | hi |
| 09:11.18 | zecke | hey |
| 09:11.55 | zecke | lpotter: I think me, and the community would welcome regular snapshots (rsync) |
| 09:12.10 | zecke | lpotter: and stable release, hopefully following ~2 weeks after the OEM release |
| 09:12.47 | zecke | lpotter: snapshots will enable the community to give hints, and hopefully influence things a bit |
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| 09:16.33 | RP | morning all |
| 09:16.50 | zecke | hey! |
| 09:16.58 | CoreDump|home | hi RP |
| 09:17.42 | hrw | hi RP |
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| 09:23.41 | RP | I wish Pavel would put thought into his patches :-/ |
| 09:23.51 | XorA | hey RP |
| 09:24.32 | zecke | RP: hey, what did he do? |
| 09:24.44 | hrw | RP: I wish to know what we need from him to boot 2.6 on collie... |
| 09:25.44 | RP | zecke: Submitting patches to fix spitz and not borzoi/akita |
| 09:25.48 | CoreDump|home | a bloody SD sriver heh |
| 09:26.43 | RP | hrw: I'll have to have a look and see if I can get that working |
| 09:27.00 | RP | Someone posted an SA1100 2.6 gadget driver to lakml |
| 09:27.09 | zecke | oh |
| 09:27.15 | hrw | could be interesting |
| 09:27.15 | RP | 2.6.12 based but should be easy enough to port to 2.6.16 |
| 09:27.28 | hrw | zecke: http://del.icio.us/hrw/linux-arm/ |
| 09:28.09 | lrg | hey Richard |
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| 09:30.03 | RP | zecke: I'm guessing the Simpad people might be interested in that? |
| 09:30.45 | zecke | RP: yes! |
| 09:31.06 | zecke | need to pick up my simpad first though :} |
| 09:31.29 | zecke | i thought g_ether was impossible with the SA... well |
| 09:32.04 | hrw | zecke: well |
| 09:33.06 | hrw | zecke: http://lists.arm.linux.org.uk/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/2006-June/034412.html |
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| 09:39.17 | nemu_1 | hrw : i got the other error message. block-qcow.c:26:18: zlib.h: No such file or directory |
| 09:40.19 | nemu_1 | hrw : qemu-native-0.7.0 do_compile stage |
| 09:40.59 | hrw | nemu_1: you lack libz-dev on host |
| 09:41.35 | nemu_1 | hrw : no ... i install it, now. |
| 09:41.48 | CoreDump|home | nemu_1: I had that, too. In my case my shell env was f*cked |
| 09:42.16 | theturtle | do someone manage to build gpe-calendar without issuing this : http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1057 ? |
| 09:42.41 | hrw | theturtle: wrong libeventdb |
| 09:42.59 | hrw | theturtle: read comments of bug? |
| 09:43.24 | theturtle | yep, i've posted the last one |
| 09:43.30 | hrw | ah. |
| 09:43.36 | hrw | theturtle: ask on #gpe? |
| 09:43.44 | theturtle | i can't build either with -0.21-r0 nor -0.30 |
| 09:43.49 | theturtle | yep |
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| 09:46.15 | guylhem_ | seen holger |
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| 09:46.45 | hrw | guylhem_: ~seen zecke you meant? |
| 09:46.50 | hrw | hi guylhem_ gints |
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| 09:49.43 | zecke | guylhem_: hey! |
| 09:49.52 | zecke | I'm extremely busy ATM |
| 09:50.04 | nemu_1 | hrw : right ! u solve it. |
| 09:50.09 | nemu_1 | hrw : thx |
| 09:50.12 | hrw | nemu_1: np |
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| 09:51.37 | nemu_1 | hrw : almost header file problem = i've no blah-dev and lib. ok ? |
| 09:53.42 | nemu_1 | hrw : i just thought "bitbake execute wget and download lib & lib-header files". |
| 09:53.48 | hrw | zecke: I sent survey results to NAbyss |
| 09:54.01 | woglinde | moin hrw btw. |
| 09:54.08 | woglinde | hrw how are you better? |
| 09:54.14 | hrw | nemu_1: your host machine need does headers |
| 09:54.31 | nemu_1 | hrw : okie. :) |
| 09:54.35 | hrw | woglinde: better - antibiotic in large amounts |
| 09:54.47 | woglinde | hrw oh I dont like anitbiotic |
| 09:54.52 | hrw | http://www.hrw.one.pl/2006/06/08/users-and-unmaintained-applications/ |
| 09:54.58 | zecke | hrw: oh still sick? :( |
| 09:55.01 | hrw | woglinde: I do not like big tonsils |
| 09:55.14 | hrw | zecke: week with antibiotic |
| 09:57.11 | hrw | someone can suggest good DVD-RW drive? |
| 09:57.52 | XorA | hrw: never had problems with my NEC |
| 09:58.25 | johnX | I have a Sony that has been good to me and I've heard good things about LiteON |
| 09:59.03 | hrw | liteons are no way - too mny bad things I heard in past |
| 09:59.05 | XorA | as long as you can use rpc1.com all is good |
| 09:59.32 | johnX | just stay the heck away from Emprex drives |
| 10:00.19 | hrw | johnX: it sound nearly like Panasonix |
| 10:01.23 | woglinde | hrw I have a pioneer |
| 10:01.30 | woglinde | -rw only |
| 10:01.53 | hrw | BenQ DVD+/-RW DW1650 looks interesting |
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| 10:06.52 | ade|desk | morning morning |
| 10:09.50 | guylhem_ | hrw- thanks |
| 10:11.08 | guylhem_ | hrw at all costs please avoid the panasonic. got one, it's beyond rpc-2 - I would call it rpc3. Even mplayer/decss/videolan etc, regardless the OS, can't read a dvd rfom a different zone |
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| 10:12.20 | hrw | guylhem_: probably will get benq 1650 |
| 10:12.50 | guylhem_ | I'm looking for someone stupid enough to purchase my uj-850 from panasonic |
| 10:13.04 | guylhem_ | got 50% dvd in z1, 50% in z2 |
| 10:13.08 | guylhem_ | useless to me |
| 10:13.13 | hrw | guylhem_: will give 10pln if you pay postage |
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| 10:14.20 | CoreDump|home | ~curse DRM |
| 10:14.27 | ibot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, DRM ! |
| 10:14.27 | chris144 | good morning |
| 10:14.31 | CoreDump|home | hi chris144 |
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| 10:15.38 | guylhem_ | hrw - :-) |
| 10:15.50 | guylhem_ | I hope it'll be broken somedauy |
| 10:15.54 | chris144 | 2nd good morning, my irc client just crashed |
| 10:20.48 | caveman | woglinde: will you get some food soon? |
| 10:21.29 | caveman | woglinde: do you want to come to the BMCO to get some food? |
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| 10:36.51 | woglinde | zecke dont have the time |
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| 10:43.56 | CoreDump|home | later all |
| 10:45.31 | Cockroach- | phew. I'm back |
| 10:46.50 | woglinde | jo |
| 10:47.22 | Cockroach- | As my thesis got approved few weeks ago, I haven't even looked anything that reminds me of OE for a while ;) |
| 10:48.06 | woglinde | well done |
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| 11:42.27 | woglinde | bye all |
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| 12:01.35 | rob_w|mis | hi .. |
| 12:01.42 | rob_w|mis | which package holds the locale binary ? |
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| 12:15.34 | zecke | hey rwhitby |
| 12:15.56 | rwhitby | hey |
| 12:16.27 | rwhitby | nslu2-linux is finally moving it's repos from sourceforge.net and berlios.de to svn on svn.nslu2-linux.org |
| 12:16.51 | rwhitby | we're going to use client certificates issued by an NSLU2-Linux CA for access through https to svn. |
| 12:17.03 | rwhitby | sf.net is just too flakey for us any more. |
| 12:18.06 | rwhitby | but we will be staying with OE and monotone while OE stays with monotone. |
| 12:18.36 | rwhitby | Just an FYI. |
| 12:23.15 | zecke | thanks (glad you stay with OE) |
| 12:23.30 | zecke | rwhitby: so what do you move to svn? |
| 12:25.35 | rwhitby | zecke: optware packages (for Unslung firmware), source releases for SlugOS (we develop in monotone, but have a public SVN repo for the stable releases, which people can build from if they like). Some other tools like upslug2, slugimage, and our set of kernel patches which haven't been pushed upstream yet. |
| 12:26.23 | rwhitby | So we develop SlugOS 3.9 in the SVN stable branch, and SlugOS 4 in parallel in monotone. |
| 12:26.43 | rwhitby | (stable branch is critical bug fixes only) |
| 12:28.25 | nemu_1 | i got the following error while "bitbake gpe-image". |
| 12:28.36 | nemu_1 | ld: cannot find -lglib-2.0 |
| 12:28.47 | nemu_1 | | /home/stuff/build/tmp/cross/bin/arm-linux-gcc -I{STAGING_INCDIR} -L/home/stuff/build/tmp/staging/arm-linux/lib -lglib-2.0 bl.c -o bl |
| 12:29.07 | nemu_1 | does anybody know howto solve this problem ? |
| 12:31.13 | hrw|afk | nemu_1: update metadata |
| 12:31.17 | hrw|afk | it was fixed |
| 12:31.41 | nemu_1 | hrw|tv : howto update metadata |
| 12:31.47 | Gerrath | does anyone have a nice vim syntax file for .bb files? I have been modifing one that I copied from the make.vim |
| 12:32.04 | hrw|tv | Gerrath: bitbake/contrib/vim/syntax/bitbake.vim |
| 12:32.09 | nemu_1 | hrw|tv : oe.db update ? |
| 12:32.20 | Gerrath | hrw|tv, Thanks. |
| 12:32.26 | hrw|tv | nemu_1: monotone pull/monotone update - all is in oe wiki/doc iirc |
| 12:32.42 | nemu_1 | hrw|tv : thx. |
| 12:32.46 | hrw|tv | np |
| 12:33.01 | hrw|tv | ok. go back to soylent green |
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| 12:36.24 | Gerrath | hrw|tv, thanks, I had checked in oe contrib folder but never even realized there was a contrib folder in bitbake as well, it was too obvious I guess :-) |
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| 12:52.28 | zecke | hehe |
| 12:53.56 | mickeyl | morning folks |
| 12:54.43 | zecke | mickeyl: hey! |
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| 13:30.51 | CIA-9 | 03florian 07org.oe.dev * rdcdcdd2d... 10/packages/libgpevtype/libgpevtype_0.17.bb: libgpevtype: reduce default preference of 0.17 |
| 13:34.46 | mickeyl | RP: you there? |
| 13:44.40 | pb__ | hail mickeyl |
| 13:44.48 | mickeyl | hey pb_ |
| 13:49.35 | hrw|tv | do we have spare collie? I can get sl-a300 for it |
| 13:50.59 | zecke | hrw|tv: I can give you mine |
| 13:51.15 | zecke | hrw|tv: and my original SL-5000d is in switzerland |
| 13:51.40 | hrw|tv | http://pavelmachek.livejournal.com/22119.html |
| 13:52.42 | hrw|tv | I can exchange mine too - this way I will get rid of collie nightmares ;) |
| 13:52.44 | zecke | ah |
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| 13:56.04 | zecke | hrw|tv: A-300 was XScale with broken cache right? |
| 13:56.55 | hrw|tv | zecke: is has pxa210 iirc |
| 13:57.52 | chouimat | morning |
| 13:58.13 | hrw|tv | ~hail excite - without it getting Zaurus infos will be hard |
| 13:58.14 | ibot | ACTION bows down to excite - without it getting Zaurus infos will be hard and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 13:59.19 | mickeyl | pb_: being a CEO, does your work still involve kernel hacking or what are you focus nowadays? |
| 13:59.30 | mickeyl | s/focus/focussing/ |
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| 14:02.47 | zecke | mickeyl: soldering, late at night, on weekends |
| 14:02.57 | zecke | mickeyl: seems to be masters' main interest ATM |
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| 14:04.12 | pb__ | mickeyl: fortunately, I am not a CEO. my work does still involve some kernel hacking, though it also involves attending a depressingly large number of meetings. |
| 14:11.00 | mickeyl | meetings suck |
| 14:11.03 | mickeyl | most, at least |
| 14:11.32 | XorA | its when you start having meetings to discuss other meetings you wish your life would end |
| 14:14.54 | chouimat | pb_: meetings (well at least 99% of them) are the way incompetent managers found to give the illusion of progress ... |
| 14:16.48 | pb__ | mickeyl: also, like zecke says, there does seem to be a lot of soldering involved |
| 14:19.58 | zecke | meetings are important |
| 14:27.28 | XorA | zecke: as long as they happen in pub |
| 14:27.39 | CIA-9 | 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r63331b30... 10/packages/zd1211/ (5 files in 2 dirs): zd1211: Add driver revision 77 |
| 14:27.47 | zecke | XorA: pub, or playing football... |
| 14:31.45 | hrw|tv | cu |
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| 14:37.53 | lardman|work | mickeyl: How did your foray into pdaX bootloader territory go the other evening? |
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| 14:46.10 | mickeyl | lardman|work: sash didn't appear |
| 14:46.18 | mickeyl | perhaps today |
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| 14:54.07 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 14:54.10 | mickeyl | ~lart quilt |
| 14:54.19 | mickeyl | anyone seen output like that: |
| 14:54.45 | mickeyl | http://oe.pastebin.com/767459 |
| 14:54.58 | mickeyl | quilt seems to have forgot all its commands |
| 14:55.54 | zecke | mickeyl: hehe |
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| 14:56.07 | zecke | mickeyl: quilt search for the commands in a defined directory |
| 14:56.12 | zecke | mickeyl: you move, you lose :) |
| 14:56.16 | mickeyl | aha |
| 14:56.20 | mickeyl | ~lart quilt just because |
| 14:56.20 | zecke | mickeyl: pb_ filed a bug report for that already |
| 14:56.27 | mickeyl | wb france |
| 14:56.37 | france | mickeyl: thank u |
| 14:59.54 | mickey|coffeeBRK | ~lart nick size boundaries |
| 15:00.24 | zecke | mickey|coffeeBRK: moody :) |
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| 15:27.27 | pb__ | mickey|coffeeBRK: heh, I thought all you .de folk had a special domain-based override to select patcher instead of quilt |
| 15:27.56 | pb__ | but yeah, that thing with the pathnames does suck |
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| 15:30.27 | zecke | woglinde: hey |
| 15:30.46 | zecke | woglinde: hey |
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| 15:31.04 | mickeyl | pb_: no kidding, i have that override :D problem is, in the ezx kernel I import a quilt series patch from another developer, that's why i have to use quilt for during an special ezx_patch tasks |
| 15:31.07 | zecke | woglinde: apt-get, aptitude are avantgarde :) |
| 15:31.08 | mickeyl | s/tasks/task/ |
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| 15:31.19 | zecke | woglinde: they can resolve more than one conflict at once |
| 15:31.48 | zecke | woglinde: Red Carper/Novell Zen Of Foobar/rug/zug can only resolve one conflict at a time :} |
| 15:31.50 | mickeyl | pb_: then again, even the patcher author uses quilt now, so perhaps I should follow sooner or later... |
| 15:32.13 | zecke | sooner, as I remove patcher from OE ;) |
| 15:32.20 | CosmicPenguin | quilt is the crack of the open source world |
| 15:32.42 | zecke | Patcher: Fear my authority |
| 15:32.47 | mickeyl | heh. don't you dare. |
| 15:32.49 | mickeyl | patcher rockz |
| 15:33.19 | woglinde | hm new toy the iRex? |
| 15:33.44 | zecke | mickeyl: I don't want to live in a world where people use patcher |
| 15:33.52 | zecke | screw you guys, I'm going home |
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| 15:33.55 | woglinde | zecke you are talking about the opensuse .dll stuff? |
| 15:33.55 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 15:34.00 | woglinde | pff |
| 15:34.05 | CosmicPenguin | That quote is sig worthy |
| 15:34.06 | woglinde | than later zecke |
| 15:36.26 | woglinde | mickeyl vanille is down? |
| 15:39.43 | emte | cmon patcher must be better for you than autotools, i'd label that as the crack of opensource |
| 15:40.15 | CosmicPenguin | autotools is the mugger of opensource |
| 15:40.21 | CosmicPenguin | nobody enjoys autotools |
| 15:40.26 | mickeyl | woglinde: up again |
| 15:40.28 | emte | i have decided that the catholic god himself invented autotools |
| 15:40.39 | emte | just for amusement |
| 15:41.06 | woglinde | I like autotools |
| 15:41.17 | emte | first there was the great flood, then the plague, now autotools |
| 15:41.20 | woglinde | but the developer dont know how to use it |
| 15:41.35 | emte | woglinde, you actually know how autotools works? |
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| 15:41.55 | CosmicPenguin | nobody knows how autotools works |
| 15:42.00 | CosmicPenguin | if they say they do, they are lying |
| 15:42.03 | CosmicPenguin | or insane |
| 15:42.04 | emte | lol |
| 15:42.05 | woglinde | pffff |
| 15:42.08 | XorA | CosmicPenguin: autotools, knows |
| 15:42.21 | XorA | CosmicPenguin: it manages itself and replicate through m4 |
| 15:42.22 | emte | i figure satan might know how it works |
| 15:42.31 | emte | just to throw wrenches into everything |
| 15:42.39 | XorA | it all started as a rogue sendmail.cf file |
| 15:42.46 | emte | lol |
| 15:42.58 | CosmicPenguin | autotools is the start of the war chronicled in the Matris |
| 15:43.00 | CosmicPenguin | Matrix even |
| 15:43.05 | emte | lol |
| 15:43.16 | woglinde | pfff |
| 15:45.49 | france | CosmicPenguin: thinking doing a re-write? |
| 15:46.02 | CosmicPenguin | absoulutely not |
| 15:46.44 | france | heh |
| 15:46.55 | emte | imake, smake, scons |
| 15:47.05 | emte | actually scons is really nice |
| 15:50.03 | mickeyl | is it? i can't get scons to cross compile anything. |
| 15:50.22 | woglinde | *g* |
| 15:50.24 | mickeyl | if you know, it would be cool to work on scons.bbclass |
| 15:50.48 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 15:51.04 | woglinde | mickeyl vanille strokes again |
| 15:51.28 | mickeyl | just try again, perhaps too many people accessing it atm. |
| 15:51.35 | emte | i thought kergoth had added scons support at one time |
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| 15:51.57 | mickeyl | not that i know of |
| 15:52.01 | mickeyl | i added scons.bbclass |
| 15:52.11 | emte | ive only used it on a few packaged i've compield for my host system |
| 15:52.39 | mickeyl | since it isn't using standard variables but construct its own compiler and linker calls, i have no idea how to tell it to use our variables |
| 15:53.14 | emte | you can still override those in the enviroment can you not? |
| 15:53.22 | mickeyl | dunno how |
| 15:53.27 | mickeyl | it isn't using CC |
| 15:53.32 | mickeyl | it just runs gcc |
| 15:53.33 | mickeyl | for once |
| 15:54.08 | mickeyl | feel free to add sanity into that build class |
| 15:54.14 | mickeyl | i have a package that i'd like to compile with it |
| 15:57.07 | emte | one day perhaps when i have a delusion of time, anyway off to class |
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| 15:58.03 | woglinde | hm so whats better with scons? |
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| 17:11.28 | lrg | any one had alsa working in angstrom ? |
| 17:11.44 | mickeyl | sorry, didn't try yet |
| 17:12.06 | lrg | I've come across an issue passing type u64 between user <--> kernel space |
| 17:12.51 | lrg | mickeyl: struct snd_pct has a u64 for the sample format and this is getting nuked :( |
| 17:13.18 | lrg | mickeyl: this even happens with the dummy alsa driver (I thought it was an asoc problem at first) |
| 17:13.35 | mickeyl | d'oh |
| 17:14.18 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r431299fa... 10/packages/linux/ (linux-ezx/ezx-backlight-r1.patch linux-ezx_2.6.16.13.bb): linux-ezx: new version of backlight patch |
| 17:15.10 | kergoth | mickeyl, scons does use CC, just the CC in its Environment(), not the one from the system environment, unless the person creating the SConstruct passed in os.environ at construction time |
| 17:15.13 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:19.49 | mickeyl | hey kergoth |
| 17:19.57 | mickeyl | if it was only that... |
| 17:20.11 | mickeyl | scons seems to encourage people writing their own detection methods |
| 17:20.23 | mickeyl | so all that needs to be patches as well |
| 17:20.27 | mickeyl | qt, jpeg, etc. |
| 17:20.29 | mickeyl | *sigh* |
| 17:22.30 | zecke | mickeyl: oh well, there was 'bksys' which was scons based IIRC |
| 17:23.18 | zecke | lrg: alignment changes in the abi will be guilty :( |
| 17:23.28 | mickeyl | i really hate autofoo and friends, but at least we _know_ their quirks |
| 17:23.39 | mickeyl | ~hug distutils |
| 17:23.40 | ibot | ACTION hugs distutils |
| 17:23.50 | CosmicPenguin | In the words of kergoth - "autotools sucks, but we know how it sucks" |
| 17:23.56 | mickeyl | ya |
| 17:25.14 | CIA-9 | 03cbrake 07org.oe.dev * rd103331f... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): logicpd-pxa270 2.6.17-rc5: add defconfig and bb fixes, contrib by Shane Volpe |
| 17:26.03 | lrg | zecke: thx |
| 17:27.49 | zecke | lrg: http://wiki.debian.org/ArmEabiPort |
| 17:28.02 | zecke | lrg: see 64-Bit data type |
| 17:28.37 | lrg | zecke: there is a patch :) |
| 17:28.55 | lrg | zecke: 3524/1 |
| 17:47.52 | kergoth | zecke: yeah, bksys/waf looks quite promising |
| 17:48.09 | kergoth | mickeyl: well, autoconf encourages people writing their own detection methods too.. only difference is how many are included by default |
| 17:49.29 | pb__ | later all |
| 17:49.41 | zecke | pdfjoin... |
| 17:57.37 | lrg | zecke: sadly it's the wrong patch :( time for an email to linux-arm-kernel |
| 17:58.19 | kergoth | mickeyl: handling building build binaries vs target ones is easily done via having two seperate Environment's. scons's Configure does support caching, so that can be worked around the same way we do for autoconf. the only annoyance is lacking a standard means of passing variables we need into the build, and i suppose that could easily be injected as a new 'cross' tool |
| 18:04.09 | mickeyl | kergoth: i see. sounds good. you know we appreciate a patch... :) |
| 18:05.02 | mickeyl | anyone know what's GPDR0 ? |
| 18:05.05 | mickeyl | no, sorry |
| 18:05.08 | mickeyl | GAFR0_U even |
| 18:05.12 | mickeyl | i know about GPDR |
| 18:05.17 | mickeyl | but never seen GAFR0 |
| 18:06.06 | kergoth | http://freehackers.org/~tnagy/bksys.html <-looks cool |
| 18:08.32 | CosmicPenguin | ew |
| 18:08.45 | mreimer | mickeyl: GAFR registers control what function the GPIO is used for, e.g. a peripheral function controlled by the processor, or a straight GPIO, etc. |
| 18:08.50 | CosmicPenguin | I have enough python based build systems, thank you... :) |
| 18:09.12 | mickeyl | mreimer: i see, thanks |
| 18:11.35 | cbrake | kergoth: I've been using ruby some for small tasks -- it seems pretty nice for domain specific languages. I wonder if anyone will ever do a scons in ruby? |
| 18:12.21 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: hehe. have you ever used scons? it's really quite nice. waf/bksys looks like it's just a refinement of it |
| 18:12.34 | kergoth | cbrake: dunno... i need to spend more time with ruby, dont know it very well yet. seems pretty cool though |
| 18:12.52 | kergoth | heh, i know people have done buildsystems / makefile generators with lua, even |
| 18:13.15 | NAiL | CoreDump|afk: ping? |
| 18:14.00 | kergoth | ooh, waf does look cool. its wscript files look not unlike .bb files. theres a build function, a configure function.. looks task oriented |
| 18:15.34 | cbrake | kergoth: check out: http://rubyonrails.org/api/files/vendor/rails/activerecord/README.html -- a good example of DSL in ruby. |
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| 18:19.19 | NAiL | CoreDump|afk: populate-volatile.sh suddenly creates /chown and /root.root every boot. |
| 18:20.51 | mickeyl | pxa_mode_gpio(foo) configures gpio foo as input, right? |
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| 18:22.01 | mickeyl | the backlight driver i'm porting does this on power-on as well as on power-off. why does it has a comment "on backlight off configure pxa_mode_gpio as input" then, if it configures it as input always? |
| 18:22.23 | zecke | mickeyl: lol |
| 18:22.42 | zecke | mickeyl: you might want to put it in 'tri state' to have a higher resistance to save 'power' :â |
| 18:23.06 | mickeyl | ehm... hu? |
| 18:23.10 | mickeyl | <--- kernel newbie |
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| 18:23.23 | zecke | well, I'm tired and likely to talk bullshit |
| 18:23.27 | mickeyl | ah |
| 18:23.27 | mickeyl | heh |
| 18:24.15 | chouimat | hey kergoth |
| 18:24.26 | mreimer | mickeyl: how it's configured depends on the value passed. You can use pxa_gpio_mode() to configure direction (in/out), value, and function |
| 18:25.17 | mreimer | mickeyl: e.g. #define GPIO_NR_HX4700_SDCS2_N_MD (20 |GPIO_ALT_FN_1_OUT | GPIO_DFLT_HIGH) |
| 18:25.31 | mreimer | mickeyl: then pass GPIO_NR_HX4700_SDCS2_N_MD as the argument to pxa_gpio_mode() |
| 18:25.49 | kergoth | hey chouimat |
| 18:26.07 | chouimat | kergoth: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/playground/devtools/waf/ <---- new bksys |
| 18:26.08 | mickeyl | mreimer: what does the _MD mean in this case? |
| 18:26.20 | mreimer | I don't know |
| 18:26.51 | kergoth | chouimat: ah, nice, thanks |
| 18:27.09 | mickeyl | mreimer: ok, there's on other thing i don't understand |
| 18:27.18 | mickeyl | considering the following in _backlight_turn_on |
| 18:27.24 | mickeyl | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:27.25 | mickeyl | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:27.37 | chouimat | kergoth: I checked after ... I didn't knew that thomas had updated his web pages |
| 18:27.45 | mickeyl | the first statement configures it as output, the other as input or am i blind? |
| 18:27.53 | Gerrath | I'm having some issues with monotone. Cbrake submitted a patch for me, once the patch showed up on the website I did a monotone revert, to set my local folder back to the last version I updated to, then I sync'd my OE database and did a monotone update on my local folder. The new changes are not there. |
| 18:28.13 | chouimat | kergoth: btw liked the Sofa King Ad? |
| 18:28.38 | mreimer | mickeyl: what's set_GPIO_mode()? |
| 18:28.55 | mickeyl | the kernel 2.4 variant of pxa_gpio_mode |
| 18:28.58 | mickeyl | (i think) |
| 18:29.06 | mreimer | ah, I was talking about 2.6 |
| 18:29.10 | mickeyl | me too |
| 18:29.12 | mreimer | I don't know about 2.4 |
| 18:29.13 | mickeyl | porting from 2.4 to 2.6 |
| 18:29.18 | mreimer | gotcha |
| 18:29.49 | mreimer | mickeyl: what's GPIO16_PWM0_MD? |
| 18:30.02 | mickeyl | lcd backlight pwm |
| 18:30.04 | mickeyl | so in essence the question would be do i need to touch GPIO16 both on power on backlight and on poweroff or would it be safe to leave it in poweroff as it is and just disable the clock? |
| 18:30.24 | mreimer | 2.4 set_GPIO_mode() does configure GPDR, so the first statement is unnecessary |
| 18:30.30 | mickeyl | ah |
| 18:30.32 | mickeyl | ~lart montavista |
| 18:30.51 | mreimer | mickeyl: what do you mean by "touch"? change the value of the GPIO, or its configuration? |
| 18:31.09 | mickeyl | this is what they do on power off: |
| 18:31.10 | mickeyl | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:31.10 | mickeyl | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:31.10 | mickeyl | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:31.42 | mickeyl | i understand disabling the clock |
| 18:33.07 | mickeyl | i just wonder whether the semantics of set_GPIO_mode and pxa_gpio_mode is different, because the latter one configures an input as default and an output if | GPIO_OUT |
| 18:34.21 | mreimer | mickeyl: my guess is that when they turn the pwm off, they're configuring that GPIO as an input to save power. Evidently having GPIOs configured as outputs consumes more power. |
| 18:34.47 | mreimer | mickeyl: someone like pb or RP could give a definitive answer |
| 18:35.43 | mickeyl | mreimer: i understand this part. that means GPDR0 |= 0x00010000 is equivalent to setting it as output ? |
| 18:36.19 | mreimer | mickeyl: yes. |
| 18:36.25 | mreimer | mickeyl: 1 = output, 0 = input |
| 18:37.40 | mickeyl | ok, then pxa_gpio_mode and set_GPIO_mode has indeed different semantics and can't be just substituted |
| 18:37.41 | mickeyl | thanks |
| 18:39.10 | mreimer | mickeyl: actually, looking at the code, they're virtually identical |
| 18:39.21 | mreimer | mickeyl: see for yourself |
| 18:39.23 | mickeyl | uhm. then i'm still confused. |
| 18:39.35 | mickeyl | ah wait |
| 18:39.48 | mickeyl | ./include/asm-arm/arch-pxa/pxa-regs.h:#define GPIO16_PWM0_MD (16 | GPIO_ALT_FN_2_OUT) |
| 18:39.59 | mickeyl | heh |
| 18:40.04 | mickeyl | so that's always an output |
| 18:40.44 | mickeyl | hmm that kernel stuff has a steep learning curve |
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| 18:46.17 | hrw | re |
| 18:46.32 | mickeyl | wb |
| 18:47.16 | hrw | mickeyl: you fight with 2.4.20-montavista? |
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| 18:48.27 | mickeyl | yah |
| 18:48.30 | mickeyl | <--- poor mickey |
| 18:49.01 | hrw | mickeyl: what you will say about 2.4.13-rmk-pxa-cotulla then? |
| 18:49.15 | mickeyl | i will scream |
| 18:49.24 | mickeyl | that's possibly worse than 2.4.18-crapix |
| 18:49.35 | hrw | mickeyl: thats 2.4.13-crapix (sl-a300) |
| 18:50.12 | hrw | ops. 2.4.13-ac5-rmk2-cotulla even |
| 18:52.22 | hrw | heh.. no 2.4.13 rmk pathes on kernel.org ;( |
| 18:53.24 | hrw | got it |
| 18:55.55 | hrw | lets see how big is crapix patch |
| 18:56.11 | hrw | mickeyl: btw - poodle/tosa shipped to TheMasterMind1 |
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| 18:56.50 | mickeyl | ok, good to know. please add to "project devices" |
| 18:57.31 | Bernardo | hi |
| 18:57.36 | mickeyl | yo Bernardo |
| 19:00.10 | Bernardo | how are things, mickeyl? |
| 19:00.13 | hrw | hi Bernardo |
| 19:00.19 | Bernardo | hi hrw |
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| 19:00.42 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r6ffd5535... 10/packages/linux/linux-ezx/ezx-backlight-r1.patch: linux-ezx: backlight driver correctly deals with backlight power on / off |
| 19:00.43 | TheMasterMind1 | hrw: just got tracking number |
| 19:01.07 | TheMasterMind1 | oh cool, it should be here today |
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| 19:01.55 | TheMasterMind1 | strange, it didn't come to the fedex facility in my city |
| 19:04.51 | hrw | btw - why we do not use ISO dates in oe wiki? |
| 19:06.33 | hrw | TheMasterMind1: now I will have to wait :) |
| 19:06.38 | mickeyl | Bernardo: good so far. busy as hell, but that's normal :) you? |
| 19:06.43 | ggilbert_ | hrw: habit? |
| 19:07.27 | hrw | ggilbert_: ? |
| 19:07.48 | ggilbert_ | hrw: that would be my guess as to why ISO dates aren't being used |
| 19:08.12 | hrw | ah. |
| 19:08.54 | hrw | had to check dictionary |
| 19:09.13 | ggilbert_ | aaah |
| 19:10.01 | ggilbert_ | Unless consciously think to write 2006-06-8, I'm just as likely to write 6/6/08 |
| 19:10.27 | hrw | ggilbert_: and then we goes to "6/7/8 - which day is it?" |
| 19:10.47 | ggilbert_ | hrw: Seventh of June, 2008 :p |
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| 19:11.40 | kergoth | i use iso dates everywhere, even when i write checks |
| 19:12.21 | ggilbert_ | I try to, but I still fall back to US dates often |
| 19:12.23 | hrw | ggilbert_: no - saturday, 8th june 2006 - day when I had to marry Ania (but we moved to 2007.04.xx) |
| 19:12.25 | ggilbert_ | particularly when writing |
| 19:12.45 | hrw | ~lart sharp/lineo once more for 2.4-crapix |
| 19:12.47 | ggilbert_ | hrw: congratulations :) |
| 19:13.25 | Bernardo | mickeyl: busy as hell too... have to run now help Bia with the dinner |
| 19:13.51 | mickeyl | ~bon appetit |
| 19:13.52 | ibot | bon appetit is, like, smacznego. Guten Appetit. Eet Smakelijk. God Appetitt. Buon Appetito. Buen apetito Bom Apetite. buen apetito |
| 19:14.53 | hrw | ~lart mvista too |
| 19:15.08 | zecke | hrw: they have a new CEO, the second one this afternoon |
| 19:15.14 | zecke | hrw: now everything will be better |
| 19:15.29 | hrw | I was curious what was changed in 2.4.13-crapix but 32M diff scares me |
| 19:15.42 | hrw | zecke: until evening when 3rd CEO will be choosen |
| 19:15.58 | woglinde | hrw hm |
| 19:16.25 | mickeyl | hrw: probably less work to start w/ adding support for it in 2.6 |
| 19:16.37 | hrw | mickeyl: sure |
| 19:16.38 | woglinde | hrw the marraige is suspended? |
| 19:16.46 | hrw | woglinde: moved to April |
| 19:17.10 | hrw | mickeyl: need to find info does it take collie battery |
| 19:18.22 | woglinde | so |
| 19:18.42 | woglinde | kerneltranfser for simpad with usbgadet |
| 19:19.06 | zecke | woglinde: didn't you read hrw' maemo? |
| 19:19.20 | woglinde | zecke no |
| 19:19.21 | zecke | hrw's |
| 19:19.23 | zecke | woglinde: bad boy |
| 19:19.32 | woglinde | cant read everything |
| 19:19.39 | RP | rehi |
| 19:19.42 | woglinde | hi rp |
| 19:19.46 | hrw | zecke: my what? |
| 19:19.49 | hrw | re RP |
| 19:19.53 | zecke | hrw: mail :) |
| 19:20.00 | woglinde | dont know, zecke is on drug or so |
| 19:20.00 | hrw | ah.. |
| 19:20.06 | hrw | zecke: he did not get it |
| 19:20.18 | hrw | zecke: I send it to few selected people iirc |
| 19:20.35 | zecke | hrw: I welcomed the updated one :) |
| 19:20.41 | zecke | woglinde: Drug yes, sleep no |
| 19:20.46 | mickeyl | RP: hi |
| 19:20.49 | RP | mickeyl: Did you get sorted? |
| 19:20.52 | zecke | woglinde: caffeine yes, club mate no |
| 19:20.53 | woglinde | zecke than get some sleep |
| 19:20.59 | mickeyl | RP: yes, thanks. do you want to puke over my first kernel patches? :)) |
| 19:21.17 | RP | I'm sure they'll be fine :) |
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| 19:21.33 | mickeyl | heh, thanks :) |
| 19:21.34 | zecke | mickeyl: they can't be worse than the Linux SATA implementation |
| 19:21.48 | zecke | mickeyl: 'sleep 4' now the buffers should be written to disk *chuckles* |
| 19:22.01 | woglinde | hm |
| 19:22.16 | woglinde | what was console for simpad with 2.6 kernel? |
| 19:22.24 | zecke | woglinde: ttySA0 likely |
| 19:22.51 | woglinde | hmhm Warning: unable to open an initial console. |
| 19:22.59 | mickeyl | RP: how is the backlight class 'power' attribute supposed to work? which function is getting called when you echo something to that? |
| 19:24.08 | mickeyl | (don't say .set_power) |
| 19:28.54 | hrw | zecke: you have completed collie? (with cradle, power supply)? |
| 19:29.30 | zecke | oh |
| 19:29.33 | zecke | no :( |
| 19:29.38 | zecke | no power supply :} |
| 19:29.39 | zecke | damn |
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| 19:30.11 | hrw | ok I know where to get replacement |
| 19:31.47 | RP | mickeyl: The class itself takes care of it and you'd just see a status change |
| 19:32.12 | RP | mickeyl: I changed how that worked recently as everyone was implementing the drivers differently |
| 19:32.21 | mickeyl | RP: oh, so it just calls set_itensity with (0) ? |
| 19:32.38 | gremlin[it] | hi all |
| 19:32.45 | RP | mickeyl: Which kernel version is this? |
| 19:32.49 | hrw | zecke: have cradle? |
| 19:33.18 | mickeyl | 2.6.16 + a bunch of patches from you. see http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/packages/linux/linux-ezx_2.6.16.13.bb |
| 19:33.36 | gremlin[it] | i have a (probably stupid) problem, when i do 'bitbake bootstrap-image' after parsing all .bb file si got this error : |
| 19:33.59 | RP | mickeyl: You should have an update_status callback then? |
| 19:34.00 | zecke | hrw: haven't seen it in a while |
| 19:34.03 | gremlin[it] | ... ValueError: need more than 1 value to unpack |
| 19:34.09 | hrw | ok |
| 19:34.13 | zecke | yes, found it |
| 19:34.25 | zecke | gremlin[it]: yes? update bitbake, remove cache |
| 19:34.40 | mickeyl | RP: yes, i have update_status |
| 19:34.43 | zecke | hrw: let me find the collie |
| 19:34.44 | mickeyl | mapped to set_intensity here |
| 19:35.33 | RP | mickeyl: You copied corgi where that's the ony sensible action :). That function can look at bd->props->power and read the current power status |
| 19:36.00 | gremlin[it] | this is the full error --> http://pastebin.com/768086 |
| 19:36.06 | zecke | hrw: I need to find out if battery is broken :} |
| 19:36.12 | RP | (just as brightness changes the bd->props->brightness |
| 19:36.15 | zecke | hrw: so it might be wise to ask some one else as well :} |
| 19:36.24 | mickeyl | RP: ah righto. thanks. |
| 19:36.39 | mickeyl | your corgi_bl patches contain a lot of non-corgi stuff btw. :)) |
| 19:36.56 | RP | mickeyl: They're also in mainline now |
| 19:37.00 | mickeyl | excellent |
| 19:37.09 | mickeyl | i hope harald will pick my three patches up |
| 19:37.10 | RP | mickeyl: I noticed broken things and rewrote them... |
| 19:37.13 | mickeyl | two LEDs, one backlight |
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| 19:38.59 | RP | mickeyl: If you're interested, backlight.c contains the guts of the backlight class |
| 19:39.09 | hrw | zecke: sure |
| 19:39.20 | hrw | mickeyl: want to get rid of collie? :D |
| 19:39.20 | zecke | :} |
| 19:40.21 | mickeyl | RP: yeah, thanks |
| 19:40.49 | mickeyl | hrw: i don't own one anymore. the two i have here are property of University.... |
| 19:40.59 | hrw | ah. ok |
| 19:41.07 | mickeyl | they may forget it |
| 19:41.10 | mickeyl | but i'm not sure |
| 19:41.42 | hrw | mickeyl: anyway when tosa/poodle arrive I will have 'working' 2.4 machine anyway |
| 19:41.50 | mickeyl | yeah |
| 19:42.00 | mickeyl | i wonder what do13 is doing |
| 19:42.04 | mickeyl | didn't see any updates :) |
| 19:42.52 | hrw | I hope that cotulla (a300) can work from AC - battery nearly died |
| 19:43.58 | zecke | lrg: You are still in need for the SL-6000? |
| 19:44.04 | zecke | lrg: just asking :) |
| 19:44.25 | gremlin[it] | is the bitbake 1.4.2 taken from berlios usable for oe ??? |
| 19:44.32 | woglinde | gremlin yes |
| 19:44.37 | zecke | gremlin[it]: normally yes |
| 19:44.39 | woglinde | does fine here |
| 19:44.46 | lrg | zecke: can I send it to you next week ? I've finally got time to fix the touch... |
| 19:44.48 | gremlin[it] | so any clue for my error ? |
| 19:45.02 | zecke | lrg: well, I'm fine with it staying at your place |
| 19:45.10 | zecke | lrg: just wanted to know the status :) |
| 19:45.56 | lrg | zecke, np. I know I've had it for ages. It just wasn't easy to get any time to look at things.... :( |
| 19:46.21 | mickeyl | no hurry |
| 19:46.26 | zecke | lrg: I did nothing with the device as well :} |
| 19:46.40 | lrg | zecke: heh |
| 19:46.45 | woglinde | lrg we all have no time |
| 19:46.50 | zecke | so no hurry, if it is still usable for you, I think every one is fine |
| 19:47.00 | zecke | ... |
| 19:47.12 | zecke | sucky english... in the previous sentence |
| 19:47.13 | lrg | woglinde: I'll try and send it next friday. |
| 19:47.29 | zecke | lrg: you want to get rid of it? |
| 19:47.54 | mickeyl | lrg: don't understand us wrong. if you need more time, take it. just if it gets dusty, send it back :) |
| 19:47.55 | woglinde | lrg nono |
| 19:48.03 | woglinde | lrg its fine at your place |
| 19:48.27 | zecke | yeah, don't get us crappy germans wrong (it is the abuse of the english language) :) |
| 19:48.29 | lrg | zecke, mickeyl, woglinde: np, I'll send back after audio and touch are ok :) |
| 19:48.35 | mickeyl | lrg: righto :) |
| 19:48.40 | TheMasterMind1 | hrw: what's supposed to be in the package? |
| 19:48.44 | hrw | lrg: thats what I had to write |
| 19:48.51 | hrw | TheMasterMind1: sl-6000 and sl-5600 |
| 19:49.45 | zecke | lrg: next week then? ;) |
| 19:49.52 | gremlin[it] | zecke there is a irc channel for bitbake ??? |
| 19:49.57 | zecke | gremlin[it]: yes |
| 19:49.59 | zecke | gremlin[it]: #oe |
| 19:50.07 | gremlin[it] | hahah :) |
| 19:50.16 | mickeyl | bbl |
| 19:50.18 | TheMasterMind1 | ok... it was in a treo 700 box so i got very confused |
| 19:50.19 | lrg | mickeyl, zecke: i've now sent an email to lakml re the EABI alsa issue |
| 19:50.28 | mickey|bbl | k |
| 19:50.29 | zecke | gremlin[it]: the current MVP (RP) and the sucky maintainer (me) are here |
| 19:50.50 | woglinde | *g* |
| 19:51.09 | zecke | woglinde: I loved that flame war in the RedHat bug tracker |
| 19:51.12 | zecke | woglinde: how did you find it? |
| 19:51.16 | woglinde | hm I need a quanten computer |
| 19:51.35 | woglinde | zecke joey hess posted it planet debian |
| 19:51.49 | woglinde | or in his blog |
| 19:51.56 | hrw | which flamewar? |
| 19:52.01 | gremlin[it] | zecke : any clue about what happen to me ... i also try to run bitbake with '-D' but there isn't more info about the error ... |
| 19:52.13 | hrw | TheMasterMind1: so you got it already? |
| 19:52.20 | TheMasterMind1 | yea just came |
| 19:52.46 | gremlin[it] | mhh zecke ... i reinstalled bitbake in a fresh FC5 on x86_64 ... |
| 19:52.56 | hrw | TheMasterMind1: great |
| 19:53.23 | zecke | gremlin[it]: heisenbug? |
| 19:53.49 | gremlin[it] | what zecke ? |
| 19:54.59 | hrw | my collie has collector value still :) original box with all manuals, blind cf card, even that sheet of hard foil to get cf out of slot (not to mention original foil for collie itself) |
| 19:55.10 | woglinde | hrw why rpm ist crappy |
| 19:55.12 | woglinde | mom |
| 19:55.21 | hrw | woglinde: ah.. remember that post now |
| 19:55.57 | zecke | gremlin[it]: x86_64 should not influence bitbake in anyway |
| 19:56.05 | woglinde | http://kitenet.net/~joey/blog/index.html |
| 19:56.13 | woglinde | hrw oh hm |
| 19:56.59 | gremlin[it] | zecke i suppose specialy cause bb is in python ... but 64but arch still have some issues sometimes :) |
| 19:57.11 | gremlin[it] | s/64but/64bit/ |
| 19:58.03 | zecke | gremlin[it]: but not at the BitBake level :) |
| 19:58.14 | zecke | hrw: I'm in between AM2 and Core2 |
| 19:58.26 | hrw | zecke: I'm not ;) |
| 19:58.31 | zecke | hrw: AM2? |
| 19:58.50 | hrw | zecke: 'no cash' position currently |
| 19:58.57 | zecke | ah, yeah |
| 19:59.12 | zecke | this gives me the time to evaluate both options more closely :} |
| 19:59.16 | gremlin[it] | zeche ... seem the "bad" line is >> (providee, provider) = p.split(':') << |
| 19:59.34 | gremlin[it] | maybe there is some malformer .bb file ??? |
| 19:59.48 | zecke | gremlin[it]: Should I tell you the truth? |
| 19:59.53 | gremlin[it] | sure |
| 19:59.56 | zecke | gremlin[it]: you did not specify any input ;) |
| 20:00.09 | gremlin[it] | explain ... |
| 20:00.11 | zecke | gremlin[it]: BitBake , XYZ65 don't ring a bell :) |
| 20:00.26 | zecke | gremlin[it]: I want to build using this config, and when parsing foo.bb, I see this error |
| 20:00.28 | Gerrath | "monotone --db=OE.db pull monotone.openembedded.org org.openembedded.dev" followed by "monotone update" is all I should have to do to update my system correct? There was a patch pushed 2 1/2 hours ago and it still is not showing up on my system. |
| 20:00.32 | zecke | gremlin[it]: would give me input |
| 20:01.02 | gremlin[it] | <gremlin[it]> this is the full error --> http://pastebin.com/768086 |
| 20:01.08 | zecke | Gerrath: sounds about right, was this patch synced with monotone.oe.org already? |
| 20:01.17 | woglinde | gerrath you can do the pull in the org.directory |
| 20:01.41 | Gerrath | I think so, it shows up on the repository website. cbrake submitted it for me. |
| 20:02.11 | zecke | gremlin[it]: could it be, you have more than one install mixed? |
| 20:02.12 | gremlin[it] | zecke or explain me what is 'input' for monotone ... my local.conf ? |
| 20:02.29 | zecke | gremlin[it]: 'input' is for the human called zecke |
| 20:03.00 | woglinde | hms what is the name of the usbnet device when I use the gadet driver |
| 20:03.00 | woglinde | must look in the code |
| 20:03.00 | zecke | Gerrath: you could do monotone log, to see if the db contains this patch |
| 20:03.39 | zecke | Gerrath: you could try another monotone mirror |
| 20:04.01 | woglinde | args there it stands |
| 20:05.21 | gremlin[it] | i shouldn't have a mixed instaaltion of oe or bitbake |
| 20:06.30 | Gerrath | woglinde, org.directory? Zecke, I tried: monotone.openembedded.org, monotone.vanille.de and vanille.de |
| 20:06.38 | woglinde | so last try than food |
| 20:07.01 | woglinde | .o(than force zecke somehow, to fix the mq200 driver) |
| 20:07.17 | zecke | woglinde: it works on my mq200 |
| 20:07.32 | zecke | woglinde: but now mq200 in google returns the datahseet I can use that one... |
| 20:08.15 | gremlin[it] | zecke : blame on me ... my fault :( |
| 20:08.21 | zecke | gremlin[it]: hehe |
| 20:08.40 | cbrake | Gerrath: the commit show up on: http://www.openembedded.org/viewmtn/branch.psp?branch=org.openembedded.dev |
| 20:08.49 | gremlin[it] | a bad line in local.conf ... |
| 20:08.50 | woglinde | gerrath go to the org.openembedded.dev-directory |
| 20:09.00 | zecke | gremlin[it]: show me that bad line please :) |
| 20:09.03 | woglinde | geerath than you can do monotone pull servername |
| 20:09.09 | woglinde | monotone up |
| 20:09.21 | zecke | gremlin[it]: better file a bug report and request a better error message |
| 20:09.27 | gremlin[it] | PREFERRED_PROVIDERS += perl-native |
| 20:09.38 | gremlin[it] | instead of ASSUME_PROVIDED += "perl-native" |
| 20:09.55 | zecke | hehe |
| 20:10.00 | Gerrath | cbrake, thats were I have been going to check and it has been posted for several hours, still no go at pull with monotone. |
| 20:10.03 | zecke | "Error you meant ASSUME_PROVIDED" |
| 20:10.19 | zecke | argh 207 revs to pull :} |
| 20:10.43 | cbrake | Gerrath: did you try to check out a clean org.openembedded.dev tree and see if it is there? This would at least tell you if you have the changes in your local db. |
| 20:10.56 | woglinde | *sigh* |
| 20:10.58 | woglinde | eth_open: start *FAILED* |
| 20:11.15 | woglinde | no gadet driver |
| 20:11.28 | Gerrath | cbrake, I tried it, still not there. |
| 20:11.40 | gremlin[it] | zecke .. at least "malformed PREFERRED_PROVIDERS stantment" |
| 20:12.02 | cbrake | Gerrath: ok, something is happening correctly w/ the pull operation. |
| 20:12.35 | Gerrath | cbrake, this is the same thing that happened to me yesterday, I download a new OE.db from the oe website, then update it and co org.openmbedded.org again and the files are there. |
| 20:13.18 | Gerrath | cbrake, for some reason updating the OE.db is not working for me after I have made modifications to it. I wonder if when I add a new file to it that something doesn't break. |
| 20:13.26 | cbrake | Gerrath: I'm doing a pull -- I want to compare head version #'s w/ what you have. Can you do a pull as well -- we should then be at the same version. |
| 20:15.23 | cbrake | hmm, my current head from vanille.de is: 00891ce2eb74107a7cb91ed3ab229a8e070d183a cbrake@openembedded.org 2006-06-08T17:23:35 |
| 20:16.03 | Gerrath | well I have two local respositories now, my original that I developed the patch with and its database will not update but the new one that I downloaded a new database for does update. |
| 20:16.06 | cbrake | but the web site shows that mickeyl has checking in something since then. |
| 20:16.44 | Gerrath | yet there are no error messages or warnings when I try to update the old repository. |
| 20:16.51 | cbrake | Gerrath: ok, run monotone head on your latest one and see if it matches the above version #. |
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| 20:18.56 | cbrake | Gerrath: or, just post the version of your repo head and we'll figure out where you are. |
| 20:19.46 | Gerrath | the old one is forever frozen at rev: 9a90d7c1af258b70d324197ac549b0267116edf9 and the new one is at rev: 6ffd553548c0210aa5222b0e16a1efa76531d6a2 |
| 20:20.05 | zecke | Gerrath: do you have more than one head? |
| 20:20.21 | zecke | Gerrath: monotone automate heads org.openembedded.dev IIRC |
| 20:20.56 | TheMasterMind1 | jeez the dock for sl6000 is huge |
| 20:20.58 | Gerrath | just one. |
| 20:20.59 | cbrake | Gerrath: zecke monotone head should tell you if you have multiple heads |
| 20:21.42 | eFfeM | hi, someone asked about a gcc 4.1.1. build the other day |
| 20:21.44 | cbrake | Gerrath: your revision is the latest shown on: http://www.openembedded.org/viewmtn/branch.psp?branch=org.openembedded.dev |
| 20:21.55 | Gerrath | oh well, I will work out of the new repository, I may play with this more later to figure out what went wrong, but for now back to work. Thanks for all the help. |
| 20:21.59 | eFfeM | i just build it natively and it builds ok (arm be) |
| 20:22.06 | eFfeM | haven't been able to test it yet. |
| 20:22.15 | eFfeM | just thought I'd pass the news |
| 20:22.21 | zecke | Gerrath: so you only have one head? |
| 20:22.28 | zecke | Gerrath: manually trying to update to cbrakes version? |
| 20:23.42 | hrw | RP: looks like getting cotulla (sl-a300) into 2.6 will be big task. it has own fb driver... |
| 20:23.45 | hrw | even |
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| 20:32.09 | gremlin[it] | now i got another error building quilt-native (but probably is more general) >>> /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied <<< |
| 20:44.54 | hrw | cu |
| 20:52.29 | kergoth | doom 3 and battlefield 1942 use scons for their buildsystems? spiffy |
| 20:52.42 | woglinde | kergoth hm |
| 20:52.52 | gremlin[it] | resolved ... filesystem mounted with user(s) option imply noexec !!! |
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| 21:01.08 | ken | hey |
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| 21:09.41 | RP | hrw|gone: Which processor is that based on? (and which fb chipset?_ |
| 21:12.35 | zecke | RP: PXA210 |
| 21:12.53 | kergoth | jesus christ, i forgot how long it takes to check glibc out of cvs :P |
| 21:13.12 | ken | If I set full_optimization, will that override the kernel default optimization? |
| 21:13.19 | ken | Or do I need to patch the makefile? |
| 21:13.27 | kergoth | no, those do not affect kernel optimization |
| 21:13.30 | kergoth | nor should they. |
| 21:13.36 | ken | roger |
| 21:13.36 | RP | I didn't know the PXA210 existed :) |
| 21:13.38 | woglinde | hi kergoth |
| 21:13.45 | kergoth | hey |
| 21:17.27 | zecke | RP: I wonder if they have a broken cache :) |
| 21:18.54 | kergoth | U libc/wctype/wctype_l.c |
| 21:18.54 | kergoth | NOTE: Task failed: Fetch failed: libc |
| 21:18.55 | kergoth | NOTE: package glibc-initial-2.3.2+cvs20040726-r17: task do_fetch: failed |
| 21:19.01 | kergoth | what a useful error message |
| 21:19.03 | CosmicPenguin | stop that! |
| 21:19.37 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: what's a good glibc version for x86 builds atm? |
| 21:19.46 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: and do i need to add a --without-tls still? |
| 21:20.15 | CosmicPenguin | we're building 2.3.5+cvs20050627 |
| 21:20.21 | CosmicPenguin | though we should upgrade |
| 21:21.07 | CosmicPenguin | and you don't need --without-tls, apparently |
| 21:21.20 | kergoth | k |
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| 21:21.40 | CosmicPenguin | only appears to be a 2.3.2 hack |
| 21:22.48 | kergoth | erk, why is there no 2.3.5+cvs20050627 glibc-initial? my build wants to check out two damn versions of glibc out of cvs :P |
| 21:23.24 | ken | kergoth, fix it :P |
| 21:23.50 | ken | Still cant figure out why theres no 2.3.6 glibc in OE |
| 21:24.10 | CosmicPenguin | because there are few people who give and many who take |
| 21:24.28 | ken | CosmicPenguin, ouchi |
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| 21:26.00 | kergoth | 18:11 < kergoth> jesus checkikng glibc out of cvs takes ages |
| 21:26.00 | kergoth | 18:20 < purple_cow> +why would jesus want a glibc tree? |
| 21:26.00 | kergoth | 18:20 < kergoth> as an example of pure evil, no doubt |
| 21:26.01 | kergoth | :P |
| 21:26.26 | ken | Hehe |
| 21:28.14 | RP | kergoth: Keep in mind redhat broken their cvs and old cvs date checkouts are corrupt. I don't know where you're checking out from |
| 21:28.30 | kergoth | ugh |
| 21:29.02 | RP | kergoth: Its why OE's 20050627 is from a mirror |
| 21:29.36 | TheMasterMind1 | hrw|gone: around? |
| 21:30.34 | Crofton | Is there a way to build a compact glibc? |
| 21:30.53 | CosmicPenguin | bitbake uclibc |
| 21:30.55 | CosmicPenguin | any questions? |
| 21:31.19 | Crofton | heh I neeed stdlic++ |
| 21:31.25 | Kristoffer|JLime | CosmicPenguin, you are just cranky today :P |
| 21:31.36 | Crofton | er standard c++lib also |
| 21:31.38 | CosmicPenguin | don |
| 21:31.45 | CosmicPenguin | Kristoffer|JLime: don't confuse cranky just just being a jackass |
| 21:31.54 | Crofton | :) |
| 21:31.58 | Kristoffer|JLime | CosmicPenguin, haha |
| 21:32.28 | TheMasterMind1 | anyone know whats best re: customs when shipping overseas from US |
| 21:32.39 | zecke | Crofton: stdc++ comes from gcc |
| 21:32.52 | zecke | Crofton: you can uclibc stdc++, or just the one from gcc on uclibc |
| 21:32.59 | TheMasterMind1 | shipped to hong kong and germany before and both times i was told to mark it as a gift, value $5 so it wouldn't get held up |
| 21:33.07 | TheMasterMind1 | but i don't know if i should do that with the zaurii |
| 21:33.25 | Crofton | guess I need to play with some distro options one day ... |
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| 21:34.59 | kergoth | Crofton: there is a uclibc++ |
| 21:35.01 | kergoth | Crofton: its in oe |
| 21:35.04 | kergoth | Crofton: never tried it though |
| 21:36.04 | woglinde | kergoth isnt usefull in that version I guess |
| 21:37.44 | kergoth | ? |
| 21:38.14 | woglinde | kergoth uClibc++ |
| 21:38.30 | kergoth | why do you say it isnt useful? |
| 21:41.38 | woglinde | hm never minded |
| 21:47.14 | zecke | woglinde: hehe |
| 21:47.27 | zecke | woglinde: well Opie/QPE does not work with uclibc for whatever reason |
| 21:47.59 | CosmicPenguin | didn't those problems get addressed awhile ago? |
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| 21:51.05 | zecke | CosmicPenguin: a while? I think woglinde last tried many month ago |
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| 21:53.33 | woglinde | zecke hm |
| 21:53.38 | woglinde | dont remeber |
| 21:53.44 | woglinde | or I do |
| 21:53.51 | woglinde | yes there was something with qpe |
| 21:53.58 | CosmicPenguin | andersee was doing something about that |
| 21:54.01 | woglinde | didnt start |
| 21:54.09 | CosmicPenguin | but like a year ago |
| 21:54.14 | CosmicPenguin | I got it working on x86, I remember |
| 21:54.17 | woglinde | and nothing in strace |
| 21:54.58 | woglinde | but now I try the gadet driver for sa1100 the whole afternoon and evening |
| 21:55.57 | zecke | CosmicPenguin: we had a lot of alignment traps with qpe |
| 21:56.05 | zecke | CosmicPenguin: most of the other QPE apps worked |
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| 22:02.13 | CosmicPenguin | multimachine behavior has changed? |
| 22:02.46 | CosmicPenguin | I can dig it |
| 22:07.55 | CoreDump|afk | NAiL: Jesus, I noticed the "root.root" directories weeks ago but wasn't able to find its cause. I'll sort it out |
| 22:08.14 | CoreDump|home | re |
| 22:08.39 | RP | CosmicPenguin: multimachine became a .bbclass and improve handling of packages with machine specific sub packages |
| 22:09.32 | kergoth | i was pretty amazed it ever worked, it was just a quick hack to see if itd work originally :) |
| 22:10.26 | RP | kergoth: It makes an awful lot of sense, especially which that tweak applied. Ultimately, I can see if removing the need for -native packages |
| 22:11.26 | kergoth | nod, they never really shouldve been necessary.. its the same package, just with slightly different configuration |
| 22:13.16 | RP | multimachine is standard for most distros and most devs now so we shouldn't have too much of an issue making it the default and then starting to work towards that |
| 22:13.54 | kergoth | thats good news |
| 22:14.31 | RP | kergoth: We've slowly been auditing packages to set PACKAGE_ARCH correctly as well so more things end up in all-linux etc |
| 22:16.33 | CosmicPenguin | multimachine rocks |
| 22:16.46 | CosmicPenguin | di we fix that problem where some of the packages needed to be rebuilt for each arch? |
| 22:16.49 | CosmicPenguin | like libtool-cross? |
| 22:17.54 | RP | CosmicPenguin: If we didn't, it'd be aquestion of setting PACKAGE_ARCH correctly in cross.bbclass |
| 22:18.21 | RP | It looks right in my build here |
| 22:19.10 | CosmicPenguin | rock on |
| 22:24.20 | CosmicPenguin | I hate how quickly my tree seems to bitrot when I don't touch it |
| 22:29.17 | CosmicPenguin | I hate that I'm stupid when I configure my tree |
| 22:30.20 | RP | One advantage of poky is it stabilises certain elements of bitrot. An incredible amount of sources seem to disappear/move upstream though... |
| 22:30.53 | kergoth | poky just maintains a minimal metadata repo, right? thats what most companies end up doing |
| 22:31.30 | kergoth | foo |
| 22:32.56 | RP | kergoth: minimal metadata, some bits customised with its own distro file |
| 22:33.07 | kergoth | cool |
| 22:35.25 | Kristoffer|JLime | Anyone here tried to compile a fresh kernel with gcc 4.1.1? |
| 22:35.59 | RP | It also has its own task packages so we don't rely on task-bootstrap and can generate our own custom images |
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| 22:42.44 | CIA-9 | 03kristoffer 07org.oe.dev * r7148b432... 10/ (7 files in 3 dirs): |
| 22:42.44 | CIA-9 | linux-jlime-sh3-2.6.16.20: Add patches for known gcc 4.1.1 issues |
| 22:42.44 | CIA-9 | * Lower default optimization to -O1 |
| 22:42.44 | CIA-9 | * add volatile struct so it doesnt get wiped out by gcc |
| 22:42.44 | CIA-9 | jlime-donkey.conf: Set default optimization |
| 22:42.45 | CIA-9 | * Lower default optimization to -O1 |
| 22:51.31 | CosmicPenguin | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_planets_in_Futurama |
| 22:51.38 | CosmicPenguin | heh - sometimes wp is an amazing waste of electrons |
| 22:52.35 | Kristoffer|JLime | lol |
| 22:54.25 | Kristoffer|JLime | Btw, im going home for the summer. Want to work on OE there, should I make a copy of my pubkey so I can commit, or is there another way? |
| 23:03.10 | emte | copy it |
| 23:04.06 | Kristoffer|JLime | oki, How do I incorperate it into my "next" OE.db file? |
| 23:04.46 | emte | you just need to have it designated as your default key for your user account do you not? |
| 23:05.12 | RP | Kristoffer|JLime: It shouldn't be in the .db file - its probably in a .monotone directory in $HOME |
| 23:05.55 | emte | hmm, i thought it uses your reg gen keys now |
| 23:06.08 | Kristoffer|JLime | ah thx |
| 23:06.13 | emte | since he last time i tried the keygen in monotone was removed |
| 23:06.23 | emte | it was* |
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| 23:43.00 | Kristoffer|JLime | Oh great, another compiling issues. Sometimes upgrading gcc only produces a fresh set of bugs |
| 23:45.22 | woglinde | nite |
| 23:47.45 | CosmicPenguin | welcome to the wonderful world of open source |
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| 23:50.42 | CIA-9 | 03kristoffer 07org.oe.dev * r19787f04... 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 23:50.42 | CIA-9 | conf/distro/jlime-donkey.conf : Add Virtual/xserver |
| 23:50.42 | CIA-9 | * Adding Virtual/xserver so it always grabs xserver-kdrive |
| 23:50.42 | CIA-9 | linux/linux-jlime-sh3_2.6.16.20.bb : Add another gcc 4.1.1 patch |
| 23:50.42 | CIA-9 | * Changing setup.c so it doesnt gets compiled away |
| 23:52.22 | CIA-9 | 03kristoffer 07org.oe.dev * r407bf0fc... 10/packages/linux/linux-jlime-sh3-2.6.16.20/volatile-setup.c.patch: |
| 23:52.22 | CIA-9 | voilatile-setup.c.patch : Adding patch needed by linux-jlime-sh3-2.6.16 |
| 23:52.22 | CIA-9 | * Makes setup.c not go up in flames by gcc 4.1.1 |
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