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| 06:51.08 | zecke | moin |
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| 07:30.06 | koen | good morning all |
| 07:30.27 | _law_ | hi koen |
| 07:33.04 | ArjanS | hi guys, is there a known problem with the compile of qemu-native? the do_patch stage fails on mouse_fix-r0.patch |
| 07:33.38 | ArjanS | in org.oe.dev that is |
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| 07:35.10 | mr_nice_slacker | hi all |
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| 07:36.36 | petn-randall | good morning! |
| 07:37.21 | zecke | ArjanS: now it is known? Do you build the svn version? |
| 07:37.51 | ArjanS | zecke: according to bitbake, the version is qemu-native-0.8.0+cvs20060627-r1 |
| 07:38.04 | ArjanS | so yes, it's the dev version |
| 07:38.17 | petn-randall | Hi koen, I'd like to mirror openzaurus and CoreDump said I should ask you about it. |
| 07:40.29 | zecke | ArjanS: so then either 'fixate' the date of qemu-native (e.g. SRCDATE_qemu-native = "moo" ) |
| 07:40.41 | zecke | ArjanS: or file a bug report, or see why the patch does not apply |
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| 07:45.24 | lindenle | Hi I built the gpe-image from openembedded and now when I log into gpe it crashes. It says it is looking for libxpcom.so and libgkgfx.so which I do not have. When I asked others on #openzaurus they said they also did not have those libraries, so I wanted to check and see if perhaps my toolchain is set up wrong? |
| 07:45.59 | zecke | lindenle: why should a base gpe image need Mozilla? |
| 07:46.12 | lindenle | No idea... |
| 07:46.12 | zecke | lindenle: we are talking about gpe-dm and matchbox? |
| 07:46.29 | lindenle | bitbake gpe-image from org.embedded.oz354x |
| 07:46.33 | lindenle | was all i did |
| 07:46.39 | zecke | lindenle: well use 'ldd' on your system to find out who needs mozilla |
| 07:47.03 | lindenle | on host or zaurus |
| 07:47.14 | lindenle | will need to install it on zaurus |
| 07:47.15 | koen | petn-randall: ask hrw, I only provide one mirror |
| 07:47.16 | zecke | where ever you can install a working ldd |
| 07:47.44 | lindenle | what package provides ldd in oz? |
| 07:49.11 | zecke | dunno |
| 07:49.39 | XorA | morning |
| 07:49.45 | koen | hey XorA |
| 07:49.48 | _law_ | hi XorA |
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| 07:51.55 | njs | 'ldd foo' = 'LD_TRACE_LOADED_OBJECTS=1 foo' |
| 07:52.41 | njs | it is not a very complicated program. |
| 07:52.59 | lindenle | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:54.02 | lindenle | njs:not woring on zaurus |
| 07:54.13 | lindenle | oh wait yes it is |
| 07:56.13 | zecke | lindenle: so you know which application is not working? |
| 07:56.21 | lindenle | looking for it now |
| 07:56.25 | lindenle | will know soon |
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| 08:02.04 | lindenle | ok it looks like the following are linked with libxpcom.so on my gpe |
| 08:02.51 | lindenle | /usr/bin/gaim |
| 08:03.07 | lindenle | /usr/bin/gpe-timesheet |
| 08:03.21 | lindenle | /usr/bin/gpe-sketchbook |
| 08:03.39 | lindenle | /usr/bin/teleport |
| 08:03.49 | lindenle | /usr/bin/gpe-aerial |
| 08:04.01 | lindenle | /usr/bin/mb-applet-menu-launcher |
| 08:04.19 | lindenle | /usr/bin/mb-applet-wireless |
| 08:04.30 | lindenle | /usr/bin/gpe-bluetooth |
| 08:04.40 | lindenle | /usr/bin/gpe-todo |
| 08:04.43 | lindenle | etc etc. |
| 08:04.54 | lindenle | so ummm, is there something wrong with my build chain? |
| 08:06.10 | lindenle | hello? |
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| 08:09.10 | lindenle | It looks like it is only the mb and gpe stuff. Can I check somewhere in makefiles to figure out why it is doing this? |
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| 08:11.43 | koen|uni | hrw|gone: I'm sitting before ewi546 right now |
| 08:12.01 | XorA | koen|uni: woo woo, how bad is the damage? |
| 08:13.18 | koen|uni | it seems the kernelmodule for the NIC is gone |
| 08:17.03 | njs | pff, NICs are totally overrated. |
| 08:17.37 | njs | didn't I hear that they rewrote the kernel semaphore API again? surely it should be usable by now. |
| 08:20.16 | koen|uni | and it keeps running :) |
| 08:20.24 | lindenle | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:28.03 | fijam | hello |
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| 08:29.38 | fijam | I've just downloaded oe.db.bz2 and monotone says org.openembedded has multiple heads |
| 08:29.49 | fijam | what should I do? |
| 08:30.05 | koen|uni | monotone pull |
| 08:30.09 | koen|uni | and read the monotone docs |
| 08:30.23 | fijam | ok |
| 08:31.09 | goxboxlive | hi guys. One qustion. I am trying to buiild 'gomunicator' but it wouldnt build. Actually it wouldnt start to build. I know it is a gomunicator_cvs.bb file there. What shall i do to let it build? Is there a way to let OE build from cvs instead? |
| 08:31.44 | koen|uni | try finding out why OE doesn't want it to build first |
| 08:31.58 | koen|uni | fix the problem, not the symptons |
| 08:32.04 | njs | fijam: "just pick one" -- they're both real commits :-) |
| 08:32.16 | koen|uni | njs: cherrypick one? |
| 08:32.38 | fijam | :) |
| 08:32.48 | njs | koen|uni: message received :-P |
| 08:33.12 | koen|uni | njs: :) |
| 08:37.12 | goxboxlive | koen: It says, 'no buildable providers for gomunicator'. |
| 08:41.06 | fijam | still the same. Wiki says: you need to wait for one of the core devs to merge those heads |
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| 08:41.52 | fijam | How long may it take? |
| 08:44.30 | koen|uni | goxboxlive: and what *else* does bitbake say? |
| 08:47.06 | XorA | fijam: you can just type monotone merge, if its a simple merge monotone will do it for you |
| 08:47.39 | koen|uni | njs: is monotone 0.27 ctrl-c safe? |
| 08:47.57 | koen|uni | njs: 0.25 forgets all revs written to db if you ctrl-c it |
| 08:49.20 | _law_ | goxboxlive, bitbake -b /pathtobb/blabla.bb |
| 08:49.46 | koen|uni | _law_: I know what the problem is |
| 08:50.03 | _law_ | koen|uni, ? |
| 08:50.03 | koen|uni | _law_: and bitbake explains that in the 3 lines above the "no provider" message |
| 08:50.40 | koen|uni | the RDEPENDS = "alsa-lib" needs to be removed |
| 08:50.51 | _law_ | koen|uni, right |
| 08:51.48 | koen|uni | ok, ewi's fixed |
| 08:51.51 | goxboxlive | koen: That's right that is also the message i get form bitbake. |
| 08:52.02 | koen | goxboxlive: why didn't you say so? |
| 08:52.26 | koen | 10:44 koen|uni: goxboxlive: and what *else* does bitbake say? |
| 08:52.37 | koen | anyway, need to move the machine back to the server room |
| 08:52.40 | koen | later all |
| 08:53.22 | goxboxlive | koen: Because i am also working :-) |
| 08:53.44 | goxboxlive | nothing more. |
| 08:53.54 | hrw|work | I have tosa and poodle now |
| 08:54.14 | hrw|work | tosa is awesome but huuuge |
| 08:54.31 | magnet | hello ! |
| 08:54.48 | magnet | what's so good in tosa ? |
| 08:55.25 | hrw|work | magnet: 4" vga screen - best of Zaurus screens |
| 08:55.58 | magnet | oh I was reading some specs, let's check for pics |
| 08:56.00 | magnet | :) |
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| 09:01.08 | magnet | heh this screen is quite nice . |
| 09:01.55 | Laibsch | yuhu ewi is back! |
| 09:01.58 | Laibsch | ~hail koen |
| 09:02.03 | ibot | ACTION bows down to koen and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
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| 09:06.15 | hrw|work | ~hail koen |
| 09:06.17 | ibot | ACTION bows down to koen and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 09:07.06 | koen | hrw|work: I also enabled the 64bit kernel again to get better IO, so 'linux32' might be needed again |
| 09:07.50 | hrw|work | koen: will try to remember |
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| 09:12.24 | chris144 | good morning folks |
| 09:14.01 | koen | hey chris144 |
| 09:14.09 | chris144 | hi koen |
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| 09:16.37 | rwhitby | koen: FYI, I've re-enabled Tinderclient on the nslu2-linux autobuilder. |
| 09:16.50 | koen | rwhitby: I saw the mail |
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| 09:17.54 | koen | rwhitby: I just fixed the box running tinderserver |
| 09:18.40 | rwhitby | I wonder if zecke fixed the client .bb so that it doesn't barf and stop your autobuild if it can't contact the tinderserver ... |
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| 09:26.36 | hrw|work | koen: you are not subscribed to oz-devel - right? |
| 09:26.51 | koen | hrw|work: only via gmane nntp |
| 09:27.00 | hrw|work | koen: can you join #openzaurus? |
| 09:37.38 | CoreDump|home | mornign |
| 09:38.19 | koen | CoreDump|home: did you check why that change in base.bbclass was made in the first place? |
| 09:38.58 | CoreDump|home | didn't ring a bell. Looked like commited by accident |
| 09:39.30 | hrw|work | I had one changeset which has some bugs in it |
| 09:39.45 | hrw|work | reverted most of it - probably missed that one |
| 09:39.51 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: =) |
| 09:39.55 | hrw|work | koen: thx for infos |
| 09:40.22 | koen | god |
| 09:40.27 | koen | stupid kde apps |
| 09:40.41 | koen | ~lart kdiff3 for making no sense |
| 09:41.02 | koen | meld is intuive, for kdiff3 I need a map + gps |
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| 09:51.13 | pH5 | just needs a bit much cpu power sometimes |
| 09:54.15 | njs | koen: can you give more details on "ctrl-c safe"? do you mean on pulls/syncs? |
| 09:54.23 | koen | njs: pull |
| 09:54.45 | koen | if I ctrl-c it by accident after it was pulling for a day I can start over |
| 09:54.49 | njs | nod. by coincidence, yes :-) |
| 09:55.04 | njs | it commits every n packets or m bytes, where n and m are some hard-coded constants somewhere |
| 09:55.06 | koen | njs: I would have expected it to keep the revs monotone claims to have written to the db |
| 09:55.56 | njs | nod. it is consistent -- if you interrupt an operation, you want it left in a clean and consistent state -- but rather annoying in this case :-) |
| 09:57.32 | koen | I would appreciate if monotone said "you know, I said I wrote them to the db, but I actually didn't" |
| 09:58.45 | koen | or if you made the ticker say "revs that may be written" instead of "revs written" |
| 10:00.33 | njs | one of the effects of the netsync cleanup in the 0.26 era was to make sure that we don't say "successful exchange" until everything is flushed to disk on both sides, and we checkpoint as we go so things are more resumeable. |
| 10:00.37 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r57049c96... 10/packages/gomunicator/gomunicator_cvs.bb: gomunicator: removed RDEPENDS |
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| 10:01.27 | njs | we didn't talk about it as much as the other cleanups around 0.26, because these are sort of finicky details, but yeah, they got fixed :-) |
| 10:02.10 | koen | so in 0.27 "revs written" == "revs committed"? |
| 10:02.15 | njs | it still isn't true that every ticker printed is something written to disk; we don't want to write too often or it becomes the bottleneck, need to amortize. |
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| 10:02.45 | njs | I guess we could do some gymnastics to delay that counter so it only credited when we checkpointed... I'm not sure it's worth the effort. |
| 10:03.11 | koen | I'd argue monotone loses data |
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| 10:19.24 | mr_nice_slacker | zecke:hi, I know you are learnig, but if you find some sparetime please ping me. i have a question about how to test kernels with bootldr |
| 10:21.15 | zecke | mr_nice_slacker: hey |
| 10:21.21 | zecke | mr_nice_slacker: load the kernel into ram |
| 10:21.27 | zecke | jump to that address :) |
| 10:21.48 | mr_nice_slacker | zecke: :) |
| 10:21.49 | zecke | mr_nice_slacker: but, trust me: there is nothing to test :) |
| 10:22.19 | zecke | when the kernel was almost done no one care to test, this version is neither done nor need testers |
| 10:22.22 | zecke | (ATM) |
| 10:23.36 | mr_nice_slacker | zecke: I will try to boot it now thx |
| 10:24.01 | koen | ~lart people who don't bump PR |
| 10:24.10 | koen | ~lart monotone's 0.25 merger |
| 10:24.17 | koen | ~hail OSX FileMerge |
| 10:24.27 | ibot | ACTION bows down to OSX FileMerge and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 10:25.12 | njs | koen: saying "lose data" makes it sound like you would not be satisfied if we just tweaked the counter to run more jerkily? |
| 10:25.55 | koen | njs: if my console says "revs written: 60", I expect those to be there when I ctrl-c |
| 10:26.05 | koen | s/when/after/ |
| 10:26.21 | koen | so making the counter more jerkily would be great |
| 10:26.55 | koen | jerkily = represent revs that survive ctrl-c |
| 10:27.53 | hrw|afk | koen: sent |
| 10:29.01 | hrw|work | does tosa was sold with usb host cable or without? |
| 10:29.23 | koen | iirc without |
| 10:29.34 | koen | judging from the zillions of forums posts |
| 10:29.35 | njs | koen: well, we'll think about. that might make some (currently speculative) optimizations impossible, and there's a balance between slowing down all pulls and giving slightly more exact information in cases where the pull is interrupted. |
| 10:31.28 | hrw|work | "The SL-6000 has only a mini-A USB port, so you'll need to find that fairly rare cable, or get the USB Quick Connect cable kit made by GoldX Products" |
| 10:31.37 | hrw|work | so I will have to dig.. |
| 10:32.08 | NAbyss | hrw|work: there's an outfit in the US selling them.. |
| 10:32.40 | hrw|work | fscking US.. |
| 10:33.18 | NAbyss | serialio, iirc |
| 10:33.34 | NAbyss | Heh, cost me a fortune to get mine |
| 10:33.40 | mr_nice_slacker | hrw|work: this one? (http://www.reichelt.de/inhalt.html?SID=17NsIO4awQARIAAEPE1Lcb8230d930c06a75a0330c724c90a990c;ACTION=3;LASTACTION=4;SORT=artikel.artnr;GRUPPE=C6992;WG=0;SUCHE=mini%20a%20usb;ARTIKEL=AK%20673;START=0;END=16;STATIC=0;FC=667;PROVID=0;TITEL=0;CASE=ignore;CONNECT=AND;WHOLE_WORD_SEARCH=0;SORT_SEARCH=standard) |
| 10:33.51 | NAbyss | 9 usd cable.. 20usd for shipping to au |
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| 10:34.58 | do13_ | morning all |
| 10:35.08 | hrw|work | mr_nice_slacker: that site is too hard to navigate |
| 10:35.10 | hrw|work | hi dirk |
| 10:35.11 | koen | hey Dirk |
| 10:35.20 | hrw|work | do13_: do you know where to buy tosa usbhost cable? |
| 10:35.44 | do13_ | hey koen, Marcin |
| 10:35.56 | zecke | later guys |
| 10:36.11 | hrw|work | trisoft want 10 eur |
| 10:36.11 | mr_nice_slacker | zecke:cya |
| 10:36.34 | koen | ah |
| 10:36.40 | koen | org.oe.dev should be merged now |
| 10:36.56 | zecke | mr_nice_slacker: time wise, next month looks promising and OE and SIMpad are high on my "Todo"-list |
| 10:37.00 | do13_ | hrw|work: Can't remember |
| 10:37.01 | mr_nice_slacker | hrw|work:thats true but is the cable on the picture(http://www.reichelt.de/bilder/web/C120/AK673.jpg) right? |
| 10:37.17 | mr_nice_slacker | zecke:glad to here :) |
| 10:37.52 | hrw|work | mr_nice_slacker: nope |
| 10:38.01 | hrw|work | mr_nice_slacker: http://trisoft.de/pics/ZHost.JPG |
| 10:39.34 | mr_nice_slacker | hrw|work:mom i will try to find it |
| 10:41.05 | do13_ | hrw|work: http://www.lindy.com/de/catalog/07/02/02b/index.php but only type B |
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| 10:41.34 | do13_ | hrw|work: you received the tosa? |
| 10:41.42 | hrw|work | yes |
| 10:41.51 | do13_ | cool |
| 10:41.52 | hrw|work | do13_: awesome screen |
| 10:42.29 | do13_ | :) |
| 10:43.38 | NAbyss | hrw|work: 640x480 3.7"? |
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| 10:44.47 | do13_ | NAbyss: Display: 480 x 640 dots, 4", 65,536-color |
| 10:45.08 | hrw|work | NAbyss: people say that it is better then in clamshells |
| 10:45.31 | NAbyss | hrw|work: Really? Whoa.. I'm quite impressed by the borzoi's display.. but even better.. |
| 10:47.00 | koen | NAbyss: it's also transflective |
| 10:47.18 | koen | clamshell screens are non-reflective |
| 10:47.36 | pH5 | koen: do you know how it compares to the hx4700 one? |
| 10:47.57 | koen | pH5: it's slightly better in the sunlight due to being transflective |
| 10:48.04 | NAbyss | Ahh |
| 10:48.38 | pH5 | koen: hx4700 has a transflective display, too. but the vertical viewing angle is a problem (I see the backlight when I look at it from above) |
| 10:50.47 | mr_nice_slacker | hrw|work:to get things clear you need a male mini a to a female a connector? |
| 10:50.59 | koen | pH5: aha, compared to the h2200 the transflectiveness of the hx sucks |
| 10:51.55 | hrw|work | mr_nice_slacker: I will contact trisoft to get cable rather |
| 10:52.24 | pH5 | koen: I don't have a device to compare against, but I believe that without hesitation :) |
| 10:52.31 | mr_nice_slacker | then you can combine this one (http://www.reichelt.de/inhalt.html?SID=17NsIO4awQARIAAEPE1Lcb8230d930c06a75a0330c724c90a990c;ACTION=3;LASTACTION=2;SORT=artikel.artnr;GRUPPE=C6992;GRUPPEA=C6992;WG=0;SUCHE=mini%20a%20usb;ARTIKEL=AK%20673;START=0;END=16;STATIC=0;FC=672;PROVID=0;TITEL=0) with that one (http://www.reichelt.de/inhalt.html?SID=17NsIO4awQARIAAEPE1Lcb8230d930c06a75a0330c724c90a990c;ACTION=3;LASTACTION=2;SORT=artikel.artnr;GRUPPE= |
| 10:52.31 | mr_nice_slacker | C6991;GRUPPEA=C6992;WG=0;SUCHE=mini%20a%20usb;ARTIKEL=USB%20ABU-ABU;START=0;END=16;STATIC=0;FC=673;PROVID=0;TITEL=0) cost 1.60? |
| 10:52.41 | koen | mr_nice_slacker: tinyurl? |
| 10:52.51 | zecke | koen: hehe |
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| 10:53.09 | mr_nice_slacker | koen: the session management of the site is shit but the service is great |
| 10:54.33 | mr_nice_slacker | hrw|work:the first is a mini a male to a male cable and the second is a a female to a female connector |
| 10:56.08 | hrw|work | mr_nice_slacker: use tinyurl to give links |
| 10:56.10 | hrw|work | ~tinyurl |
| 10:56.16 | do13_ | mr_nice_slacker: AK 673 is Mini- USB 4polig, USB host needs 5 pins |
| 10:57.05 | mr_nice_slacker | do13_:ah, ok then the cable is useless |
| 10:57.13 | mr_nice_slacker | :( |
| 10:57.24 | do13_ | cheap but useless :) |
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| 10:57.52 | do13_ | hrw|work: do you want to buy the trisoft one :) |
| 10:58.12 | hrw|work | do13_: I'm writing to them |
| 10:58.27 | fijam | so... is org.oe.dev merged? |
| 10:58.28 | hrw|work | zecke: does OE 1st tosa has usbhost cable? |
| 10:58.50 | do13_ | hrw|work: I think so |
| 10:59.55 | koen | fijam: it should be |
| 11:00.04 | mr_nice_slacker | do13_:could you check this one it is 5 pol type a male (http://tinyurl.com/ohjnu) |
| 11:00.38 | fijam | koen, thanks |
| 11:01.37 | mr_nice_slacker | do13_: its even ceaper ;) |
| 11:01.48 | do13_ | mr_nice_slacker: they don't mention OTG |
| 11:01.56 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rfbcb809f... 10/packages/slugimage/ (slugimage-native.bb slugimage.bb): dropped slugimage |
| 11:02.01 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r68c0ce66... 10/packages/wrt/ (11 files in 4 dirs): removed (Open)WRT stuff |
| 11:02.05 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * ra6d86ff2... 10/packages/nylon/ (nylon-scripts_cvs.bb nylon-statistics.bb yamonenv.bb): dropped recipes from nylon distro |
| 11:02.07 | mr_nice_slacker | do13_: OTG? |
| 11:02.10 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rf7b5d6dc... 10/packages/gcc/ (95 files in 7 dirs): removed all gcc versions other then 3.4.4 used by OZ |
| 11:02.21 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * re187591d... 10/packages/binutils/ (59 files in 7 dirs): removed all binutils other then 2.15.94.0.1 used by OZ and 2.16 |
| 11:02.25 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rd95fed27... 10/packages/icecast/icecast_2.2.0.bb: icecast: updated to version from .dev and disabled curl |
| 11:02.30 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r882ecfd1... 10/packages/libmikey/libmikey0_0.3.2.bb: libmikey: package also development stuff |
| 11:03.17 | do13_ | mr_nice_slacker: http://www.maxim-ic.com/appnotes.cfm?appnote_number=1822&CMP=WP-3 |
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| 11:04.50 | hrw | re |
| 11:05.11 | do13_ | hrw: did you ordered the cable? |
| 11:05.46 | hrw | do13_: their shop is fscked - sent mail with question about price of shipping |
| 11:06.30 | do13_ | hrw: count me in. we order two and I'll send you the second one |
| 11:07.06 | hrw | do13_: I asked them about donating too - if they respond positively then I can ask about few cables |
| 11:07.17 | do13_ | hrw: ok |
| 11:08.00 | hrw | have to write in blog about machines, then in oz website then in oesf |
| 11:08.16 | koen | and OE website |
| 11:08.28 | hrw | yes |
| 11:08.34 | hrw | thats OE devices |
| 11:09.00 | zecke | gosh, google can't even run a survey... |
| 11:09.07 | koen | heh |
| 11:10.26 | zecke | man I would have loved to go to the GUADEC... |
| 11:11.33 | do13_ | zecke: apropos survey. Do you have the results of the oe survey? |
| 11:12.06 | zecke | do13_: NAbyss has worked on it (evaluating the result) |
| 11:12.38 | zecke | do13_: I have been too busy to start evaluating myself, I can send you the raw results, or we ask NAbyss ;) |
| 11:12.50 | zecke | NAbyss: I do not want to pester you, are you coming along? |
| 11:12.56 | do13_ | :) |
| 11:16.34 | hrw | one Zaurus, two Zauruses? two Zaurii? |
| 11:16.55 | koen | zauruses |
| 11:17.15 | koen | only use zaurii if your an obnoxious git who pretends to know latin |
| 11:17.37 | CoreDump|home | koen: =D+ |
| 11:17.58 | chouimat | koen: hehe |
| 11:18.24 | CoreDump|home | oh nooes! I got some virii on my zaurii =D |
| 11:18.55 | chouimat | "Vulnerant omnes, ultima necat" |
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| 11:20.47 | NAbyss | zecke: Yeah, I'm getting there.. trying to work out meaningful stats from the raw information :) |
| 11:20.48 | zecke | I'm tempted to turn in a paper for akademy... I'm sure sponsoring will not work out anyway... again |
| 11:23.09 | chouimat | zecke: using OE to build a KDE distro? |
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| 11:24.44 | zecke | chouimat: no "We lost the war" |
| 11:24.58 | zecke | chouimat: anyway as mirko likes not to answer mails... |
| 11:25.33 | chouimat | zecke: it's seems mirko live in a part of germany that hasn't discovered the phone yet |
| 11:25.49 | pb_ | zecke: good morning |
| 11:26.06 | zecke | pb_: hey |
| 11:26.17 | zecke | pb_: did you add mozilla dependencies to gpe-dm? |
| 11:26.52 | pb_ | yeah, I rewrote gpe-dm in javascript and xul |
| 11:27.41 | zecke | pb_: I hope you use canvas and svg massively? |
| 11:29.37 | njs | canvas is cheating |
| 11:29.43 | njs | 1-pixel <div>'s, man. |
| 11:30.06 | hrw | with 1x1 blank.gif |
| 11:30.18 | chouimat | ok this hard drive is dead ... even frozen it gave me I/O errors and dma timeout |
| 11:30.57 | pb_ | zecke: of course. even the mouse pointer is an svg in my world. |
| 11:32.47 | zecke | chouimat: broken disk is quite common these days |
| 11:32.50 | hrw | http://www.openembedded.org/projectdevices updated |
| 11:33.55 | hrw | koen: edb-native removed locally from repo - can build be started again? (ewi) |
| 11:34.58 | chouimat | zecke: I was hoping to recover the data from it ... |
| 11:35.22 | zecke | ewi is back :) |
| 11:36.25 | hrw | zecke: it is - and I want to get green light to run build again - builds can kill.... |
| 11:37.18 | zecke | builds can kill foreign screens ;) |
| 11:40.58 | koen | hrw: sure |
| 11:41.31 | koen | hrw: I even managed to update grub |
| 11:41.52 | koen | the entry is called "ewi 2.6.16 <- boot this one" :) |
| 11:42.02 | CoreDump|home | hehe |
| 11:42.12 | hrw | started |
| 11:42.20 | hrw | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:42.20 | hrw | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:42.29 | hrw | dry-run result |
| 11:42.43 | hrw | http://www.hrw.one.pl/2006/06/27/oeoz-project-devices-arrived/ |
| 11:44.15 | koen | "OE developer meeting"? |
| 11:45.08 | zecke | Berlin? ;) |
| 11:45.21 | pH5 | berlin! when? |
| 11:45.26 | pH5 | :) |
| 11:46.21 | zecke | pH5: where do you live again? (district) |
| 11:46.57 | zecke | oh well, woglinde said he would get us the rooms, if I do the rest? but that is getting big :} |
| 11:48.07 | pH5 | zecke: nikolassee, one s-bahn station from wannsee |
| 11:48.20 | hrw | koen: maybe this post motivate some... |
| 11:48.42 | zecke | :) |
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| 11:50.53 | do13_ | when is the oe developer meeting planned? |
| 11:51.03 | hrw | koen: post to OE website is 'page' or 'story'? |
| 11:51.15 | zecke | do13_: hehe, this year :} |
| 11:51.23 | zecke | do13_: or the next one |
| 11:52.27 | do13_ | zecke: Then I'll write an entry into my calendar :} |
| 11:53.13 | zecke | good |
| 11:53.34 | zecke | and while it is hot get cheap flights from easy jet |
| 11:54.14 | koen | hrw: story |
| 11:54.21 | koen | hrw: although it doesn't really matter |
| 11:54.23 | hrw | ok |
| 11:54.41 | hrw | koen: can you link logo to mainpage? |
| 11:55.06 | koen | logo? |
| 11:55.29 | hrw | koen: left side of OE website has logo - this logo should link to mainpage |
| 11:55.37 | koen | hmmm |
| 11:55.45 | koen | the logo is inside a .css file |
| 11:56.15 | hrw | it is not: <div id="head" title="open embedded"><img src="/images/logo.png" alt="OpenEmbedded" width="215" height="142"/> |
| 11:56.36 | koen | ah |
| 11:56.49 | hrw | note to self: Always keep 256M CF card in pocket |
| 11:57.01 | do13_ | zecke: can't book easy jet from frankfurt :-( |
| 11:59.08 | koen | hrw: it's a link now, but you still can't click it |
| 12:00.36 | hrw | koen: 'This page is not Valid XHTML 1.0 Strict!' - probably thats why |
| 12:07.13 | hrw | koen: drupal cut content in nasty way ;( |
| 12:07.28 | koen | hrw: read what the 'preview' says |
| 12:07.47 | koen | 'preview' exists for a reason |
| 12:07.54 | zecke | cya |
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| 12:08.24 | koen | "The trimmed version of your post shows what your post looks like when promoted to the main page or when exported for syndication. You can insert the delimiter "<!--break-->" (without the quotes) to fine-tune where your post gets split." |
| 12:08.34 | hrw | ko |
| 12:08.51 | hrw | I'm used to wordpress - I can decide where to cut |
| 12:08.54 | koen | hrw: you user :p |
| 12:09.34 | koen | the <break> can be at the end as well |
| 12:11.41 | hrw | koen: good to know - thx |
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| 12:39.29 | hrw | OZ 3.5.4 sources are 1.1G already |
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| 12:50.10 | fijam | What I've done wrong if bitbake says Unable to open conf/bitbake.conf? |
| 12:50.29 | koen | wrong BBPATH? |
| 12:54.19 | fijam | thanks. But now it is unable to parse, unparsed line MACHINE="jornada6xx" |
| 12:54.25 | fijam | why is that wrong? |
| 12:54.37 | hrw | pastebin local.conf? |
| 12:54.41 | hrw | ~pastebin |
| 12:54.47 | ibot | methinks pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/, or http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or for #oe use http://oe.pastebin.com, or http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/ |
| 12:56.09 | fijam | ok, acknowledged |
| 12:56.45 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r11b0dc2e... 10/packages/alsa/ (5 files in 2 dirs): dropped alsa-driver for HP Ipaq |
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| 12:57.45 | mr_nice_slacker | hi all |
| 12:57.54 | hrw | wb mr_nice_slacker |
| 12:58.26 | koen | hey mr_nice_slacker |
| 12:59.18 | Laibsch | I was wondering if anyone of you has comments what might be an appropriate technology for read-only access to some kind of dump of the wikipedia data. Of course, it has to suit the limited specs of an embedded device. Some kind of (compressed) database, an ebook, an HTML dump, something like zbedic? |
| 12:59.58 | hrw | zbedic like |
| 13:01.46 | Laibsch | Why? |
| 13:02.00 | XorA | Laibsch: plucker? |
| 13:02.28 | Laibsch | hrw: I know that stuff is already available, but my feeling was that this might be limited in functionality (might have been the created DB, I used, though) |
| 13:02.30 | hrw | Laibsch: easy to navigate by list |
| 13:02.52 | hrw | Laibsch: but zbedic lack internal links iirc so plucker way is nice |
| 13:03.08 | hrw | or even: zbedic interface with working links in content |
| 13:03.14 | Laibsch | hrw: I was just typing that question about internal links and images ;-) |
| 13:03.37 | Laibsch | Is plucker indexed for fast search? |
| 13:03.52 | hrw | iirc yes |
| 13:03.54 | Laibsch | Can it work as a glossary for terms? |
| 13:04.09 | Laibsch | i.e. show me the page for "Ronald REagan" |
| 13:04.20 | Laibsch | OK, plucker sounds nice. |
| 13:04.39 | Laibsch | I will see if there has been any work done to create a plucker compatible dump of wikipedia. |
| 13:04.39 | XorA | or CHM |
| 13:09.28 | Laibsch | I do not see plucker for OE. Is there a package? |
| 13:09.39 | hrw | gpe-plucker, opie-reader, justreader |
| 13:09.53 | hrw | justreader/gpe would be nice |
| 13:11.28 | Laibsch | OK, so justreader can read plucker. Nice. |
| 13:11.59 | Laibsch | Does it have the same "pull" functionality to keep a list of websites updated for offline reading? |
| 13:12.07 | hrw | no |
| 13:12.11 | hrw | its reader only |
| 13:12.17 | Laibsch | :-( |
| 13:12.20 | Laibsch | Schade |
| 13:12.32 | Laibsch | That is unfortunate. That is a nice function. |
| 13:12.43 | Laibsch | But, should be doable via other means. |
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| 13:22.34 | Laibsch | http://code.plkr.org/ep/ seems to have been doing work related to bring wikipedia to plucker |
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| 13:28.01 | CIA-9 | 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r625a4ccc... 10/site/sh4-linux-uclibc: site/sh4-linux-uclibc: Add the required entries to build ipsec-tools. |
| 13:38.11 | hrw | do13_: ping |
| 13:39.16 | do13_ | hrw: pong |
| 13:39.35 | mr_nice_slacker | zecke: could you give me some extrahints how to load the kernel into the ram? I have tried with boot vfat vmlinux ->Unrecognized kernel image. I also tryed to load the image into ram, as you mentond, but i don't understand the load command. |
| 13:39.43 | mr_nice_slacker | sorry |
| 13:40.02 | zecke | mr_nice_slacker: I would have to look into my bash history, or woglindes notes |
| 13:40.13 | hrw | do13_: trisoft will send me cable for free - I only need to give them address. send me your address so I will mention you to get one more |
| 13:40.17 | zecke | mr_nice_slacker: For whatever reasons I can't remember the RAM base :) |
| 13:40.22 | mr_nice_slacker | zecke: did you see the hole message |
| 13:40.43 | Laibsch | Is justreader or any of the other readers compatible with tomeraider format? |
| 13:40.53 | mr_nice_slacker | zecke: on my client ony the thing after ">" are there |
| 13:40.57 | do13_ | hrw: thx, the allready know my address :) |
| 13:41.08 | hrw | they? |
| 13:41.14 | zecke | mr_nice_slacker: I saw '->Unrec...' |
| 13:41.31 | do13_ | hrw: yes :) |
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| 13:41.57 | hrw | do13_: so if I mention you they should know rest? |
| 13:43.52 | mr_nice_slacker | zecke: ok not the hole message ;). sorry my irc skills arn't that good. I think I have loaded it worng. I have tried to: boot vfat vmlinux. |
| 13:43.58 | mr_nice_slacker | zecke: thx for looking |
| 13:44.08 | do13_ | hrw: you got it? |
| 13:44.19 | hrw | yes |
| 13:44.56 | zecke | mr_nice_slacker: ask woglinde, I don't remember these details |
| 13:48.04 | mr_nice_slacker | zecke: i will do, thx. |
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| 13:49.51 | do13_ | hrw: thx |
| 13:50.39 | hrw | do13_: no problem |
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| 13:54.47 | hrw | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:54.51 | hrw | auch.. |
| 13:55.37 | koen | watcha compilin'? |
| 13:55.42 | hrw | giac |
| 13:55.54 | hrw | breaked |
| 13:56.05 | hrw | iirc we have patches for giac to use less mem |
| 13:56.25 | hrw | giac used 600M and 200% of cpu |
| 13:56.51 | do13_ | Intel sold their xscale portfolio: http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archive/releases/20060627corp.htm |
| 13:58.12 | zecke | bye bye munich office :} |
| 13:58.35 | Laibsch | plucker is open-source. Is there a reason not to try to get it into OE? |
| 13:59.22 | zecke | for OE there is no reason |
| 13:59.29 | hrw | Laibsch: its palmos application |
| 13:59.44 | zecke | Laibsch: opie-reader isn't cutting it? |
| 14:02.31 | Laibsch | hrw: But there seem to be Linux versions on plkr.org? Or am I mistaken? |
| 14:02.59 | Laibsch | zecke: I have not tested it yet. But plucker seems sleek. |
| 14:04.50 | hrw | Laibsch: dont know - I was there over 2 years ago |
| 14:05.23 | cbrake | hello |
| 14:05.29 | koen | hey cbrake |
| 14:05.42 | hrw | hi cliff |
| 14:08.25 | koen | grrrrr |
| 14:08.37 | koen | it seems ubuntu managed to corrupt the initrd |
| 14:08.55 | Laibsch | XorA: CHM you mean the windows help file format? Is that readable on OE-based hardware? Does it index the content? |
| 14:10.41 | AvengerMoJo | do13_: it has been cooking for a while in China's Intel |
| 14:10.59 | XorA | Laibsch: no idea about opie, but technically xCHM would work on GPE, windows makes indexs of the content, no idea where they are stored though |
| 14:11.08 | AvengerMoJo | all the people used to work in Xscale already switch to work for something else .... :( |
| 14:11.55 | koen | xscale -> freescale? |
| 14:12.04 | hrw | koen: i.MX? |
| 14:12.41 | Laibsch | Seems like there is no clear-cut winner. I mailed the guy who has wikipedia in plucker format. Unfortunately, he has not published his work yet although he did it over a year and promoses to do it "real soon now". That stuff looked very nice. |
| 14:13.01 | Laibsch | I wonder how big his files are. |
| 14:13.15 | hrw | Laibsch: should fit on 1G card ;) |
| 14:14.04 | Laibsch | I'll have to buy one, they are cheap. |
| 14:14.19 | Laibsch | But my zbedic Wikipedia fit in about 40MB, I think. |
| 14:14.42 | do13_ | AvengerMoJo: yeah. Some days ago I heared first about the deal |
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| 14:37.06 | zecke | AvengerMoJo: really? |
| 14:40.45 | hrw | do13: got reply from trisoft: We start shipping today! Have fun |
| 14:42.37 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r0890654f... 10/packages/beepmp/ (beepmp/gnusource.patch beepmp_0.9.7.bb): beepmp: dropped as it never worked on 16bit display and is not maintained upstream - bmpx is a future (not in OE yet) |
| 14:42.41 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r82a206e3... 10/packages/gtk-webcore/ (4 files): gtk-webcore: update SRC_URI - close #1083 |
| 14:49.15 | do13 | hrw: cool |
| 14:49.33 | hrw | ~hail trisoft |
| 14:49.34 | ibot | ACTION bows down to trisoft and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 14:55.34 | zecke | I love when my time gets wasted |
| 14:55.50 | hrw | who does not |
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| 14:57.12 | zecke | hrw: my 'partner'... |
| 14:57.33 | zecke | hrw: I'm too social, I should just rob the keyboard and make him feel dizzy... |
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| 14:58.32 | kitno455 | having a problem making an ipk that will upgrade properly |
| 14:59.00 | kitno455 | its a daemon, and it fails to shutdown the running copy first |
| 14:59.33 | koen | kitno455: does it inherit update-rc.d ? |
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| 15:00.05 | kitno455 | koen, i have two startup scripts in one package, could not figure how to make update-rc.d handle that |
| 15:01.18 | kitno455 | so no, it does not |
| 15:01.39 | hrw | CoreDump|afk: gpe-bootsplash-theme-opie can be dropped now - right? |
| 15:01.43 | koen | you could steal the code from the update-rc.d bbclass |
| 15:01.53 | kitno455 | ok. |
| 15:02.08 | kitno455 | i will look |
| 15:04.44 | lindenle | Does anyone know if I can do a NAND restore from the maintenence menu with an SD card? |
| 15:05.09 | koen | no idea, my ep93xx board doesn't have an sd slot |
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| 15:06.30 | pb_ | zecke: yeah, we all love it when your time gets wasted |
| 15:07.29 | zecke | pb_: yeah I'm garbage... |
| 15:07.50 | zecke | pb_: this guy (8th semester) actually tried to read a static variable |
| 15:08.00 | zecke | pb_: which is static to the micro controller |
| 15:08.14 | zecke | pb_: from a GUI (.NET/C#) on our desktop computer |
| 15:08.40 | zecke | pb_: after 30 minutes I decided it is time to tell him that this is not a distributed system (I resisted to mention HURD) |
| 15:08.47 | kitno455 | hha |
| 15:09.25 | hrw | do_distribute_sources roxx |
| 15:09.40 | zecke | not to mention that the concept of a 'timer' is too much for him... |
| 15:14.36 | pb_ | zecke: doh |
| 15:14.48 | zecke | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:15.30 | zecke | pb_: I wonder how he survived... well it is not that he can't program (even if he claimed he could) |
| 15:15.30 | kitno455 | i used to teach. when you have students for whom the info 'clicks' it is a wonderful job |
| 15:15.46 | zecke | pb_: He has issues to think in a structured way... |
| 15:16.11 | zecke | kitno455: yeah, but being slowed down by someone... |
| 15:16.30 | zecke | kitno455: if I would not have a partner I would have been done weeks ago |
| 15:16.31 | kitno455 | zecke, that is part of why i stopped |
| 15:16.45 | zecke | kitno455: but it never clicked... |
| 15:17.08 | kitno455 | zecke, programming is two things- logic and syntax |
| 15:17.26 | kitno455 | zecke, it amazes me how many folks cant do logic :) |
| 15:21.33 | kitno455 | koen, the part i was missing was a pkg_prerm(), i had everything else from the update-rc.d class, thanks |
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| 16:13.18 | kitno455 | ok guys, looking for a way to auto-update a machine when a flash drive with a directory full of ipk's is plugged in |
| 16:13.42 | kitno455 | i have a simple script that i run from a udev add rule |
| 16:14.20 | koen | echo "src/gz foo file:///dir/ipk > /etc/ipkg/foo.conf ; ipkg update ; ipkg upgrade' ? |
| 16:14.26 | koen | or something similar |
| 16:15.10 | kitno455 | koen, what about packages that are not currently installed, upgrade wont grabe those? |
| 16:15.39 | koen | you could make them part of a meta-package that is already installed |
| 16:15.41 | kitno455 | what i am looking for is 'ipkg upgrade_or_install' |
| 16:16.12 | koen | that's what task-* is supposed to do |
| 16:17.26 | kitno455 | you've lost me there. can i add something to a meta package, after the meta package is installed? |
| 16:17.52 | koen | you put an updated meta-package on the drive |
| 16:18.42 | kitno455 | ok, so when upgrade grabs the new meta package, it will install the new package as well. |
| 16:18.49 | koen | that's the plan |
| 16:18.58 | kitno455 | i guess that will work. |
| 16:19.18 | koen | there are other ways, but this is the simplest IMO |
| 16:19.43 | kitno455 | in my case, my users are uhm, not so savy, so i would rather that they only have to download a single file and put it on the drive |
| 16:20.12 | koen | you could make a shar archive or something |
| 16:20.23 | koen | something that selfextracts and runs some commands |
| 16:20.40 | kitno455 | and have my udev rule run it. thats not bad |
| 16:22.41 | kitno455 | but still more complex than just asking ipkg if this .ipk or a replacement version is already installed |
| 16:24.13 | koen | ipkg install /path/*.ipk isn't and option? |
| 16:24.39 | kitno455 | koen, what if the .ipk is already installed, ipk installs it again |
| 16:25.00 | koen | only if the version is newer |
| 16:25.14 | kitno455 | no- i just tried it, it re-installs |
| 16:25.14 | koen | otherwise you get a message like "same version, skipping" |
| 16:25.17 | koen | hmmm |
| 16:25.25 | kitno455 | maybe i am using an old version? |
| 16:25.38 | koen | are the versions of the two packages the same? |
| 16:25.47 | kitno455 | yes, and the pr |
| 16:25.49 | koen | I remember needing -force-reinstall a lot |
| 16:25.54 | koen | sounds like a bug |
| 16:26.06 | kitno455 | let me try again and make sure |
| 16:26.52 | koen | ~seen pigi |
| 16:27.04 | ibot | pigi <n=pigi@pdpc/supporter/active/Pigi> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 28d 1h 51m 31s ago, saying: 'is there anyone that has successfully got asterisk working with eicon diva pci cards (passive cards ) ?'. |
| 16:27.05 | kitno455 | yes, list_installed calls it 3.0.0-r2 |
| 16:27.49 | kitno455 | and install says Installing fusb (3.0.0-r2) to root... |
| 16:28.03 | kitno455 | and runs all the install scripts, etc |
| 16:28.33 | koen | hmmm |
| 16:28.34 | kitno455 | maybe i do something wrong |
| 16:28.40 | koen | that looks like a big bug |
| 16:28.52 | kitno455 | but i am using the exact same ipk file over and over again, not even rebuilt |
| 16:29.01 | kitno455 | it always re-installs |
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| 16:31.43 | sirfred | Good evening. |
| 16:31.49 | kitno455 | hello |
| 16:32.25 | kitno455 | koen, i have an older pr of the file, ipkg will not install it. |
| 16:32.44 | kitno455 | i guess we have a >= where we should have a > ? |
| 16:32.58 | koen | seems that way |
| 16:33.28 | kitno455 | ipkg version 0.99.154 |
| 16:36.03 | sirfred | Is konqueror-embedded openzaurus known to compile? |
| 16:36.26 | koen | sirfred: everything in OE is supposed to compile, except stuff in nonworking/ |
| 16:36.27 | sirfred | It complains me about kde-config not found. |
| 16:36.42 | sirfred | So, perhaps I'm doing something bad. |
| 16:37.01 | koen | ah, I think you have kde stuff installed on your build machine |
| 16:37.13 | sirfred | koen: As host machine? |
| 16:37.19 | koen | yes |
| 16:37.46 | sirfred | I don't have kde stuff |
| 16:38.12 | koen | hmm, that error message usually means it's picking up kde stuff from your host |
| 16:38.21 | sirfred | Well, let me see... |
| 16:38.23 | koen | I guess it can be triggered in more ways |
| 16:38.48 | sirfred | No, I have not kde stuff. Some qt based app, but no kde lib. |
| 16:39.15 | sirfred | I suppose it should find kde-config in the work directory, true? |
| 16:40.06 | koen | iirc it should not find it at all |
| 16:40.20 | koen | NOTE: package efl++-x11-0.1.0+cvs20060627: completed |
| 16:40.26 | sirfred | And that's what happens. There's no kde-config anywere. |
| 16:40.46 | sirfred | But that's what the configure is complaining about |
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| 16:42.21 | sirfred | This konqueror-embedded is from cvs since ewi546 was down. Could this error be related with that? |
| 16:44.16 | koen | it should use the on from svn |
| 16:45.48 | sirfred | I see. :-( |
| 16:46.50 | sirfred | And shouldn't konqueror-embedded be included in the opie-image. I created one a pair of days ago, and konq was missing. |
| 16:48.10 | koen | which version of linux-oz is recommended? 2.6.16 or 2.6.17 (in .dev) |
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| 16:58.11 | sirfred | Humm, I see that konqueror-embedded was commented out into task-opie.bb in revision 8cd65284f1d330175ae2d67c03b8a2c1b41e858a |
| 17:01.02 | koen | hey mickey|thesis |
| 17:09.48 | Kristoffer | hey |
| 17:11.06 | mickey|thesis | hi guys |
| 17:11.43 | koen | mickey|thesis: NOTE: package efl++-x11-0.1.0+cvs20060627: completed |
| 17:11.54 | koen | just waiting for the image to complete so I can test it |
| 17:11.55 | mickey|thesis | koen: oh good. i didn't expect it to compile out of the box. |
| 17:12.02 | mickey|thesis | koen: did it build all the examples? |
| 17:12.52 | koen | let me check |
| 17:13.40 | mickey|thesis | i did reply "go ahead and check them in" to your mail, but my mail provider hangs atm. |
| 17:13.43 | mickey|thesis | (just fyi) |
| 17:14.18 | mickey|thesis | OT: is it me or are the SOC mid-evaluation forms not online yet? |
| 17:14.55 | koen | mickey|thesis: http://rafb.net/paste/results/vVTqlY88.html |
| 17:15.03 | koen | mickey|thesis: they were delayed a day |
| 17:15.42 | mickey|thesis | koen: ewl-* and etk* are missing |
| 17:15.53 | mickey|thesis | ah i know |
| 17:16.05 | mickey|thesis | CONFIG+= is missing something |
| 17:17.03 | mickey|thesis | eflewl efletk |
| 17:17.32 | koen | it sounds like you burnt your tongue and are trying to speak |
| 17:17.37 | mickey|thesis | heh |
| 17:17.45 | mickey|thesis | and we need to DEPEND on etk as well, since that's new |
| 17:18.10 | koen | ... says he 1 second after I press 'sync' |
| 17:18.14 | koen | :) |
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| 17:24.55 | mickey|thesis | ya, that's funny |
| 17:25.19 | sirfred | Well, I cleaned stamps and source for konqueror-embedded, and it fails again with missing kde-config. |
| 17:26.03 | sirfred | koen: Thanks for your help. |
| 17:26.12 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r752206f9... 10/packages/efl++/ (efl++-fb_cvs.bb efl++-x11_cvs.bb): efl++: add floating cvs version to get the latest and greatest efl++ goodness |
| 17:26.27 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r620c60aa... 10/packages/efl++/efl++.inc: efl++.inc: depends on etk as well |
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| 17:29.08 | koen | new OE project devices: http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php/Developers_Program ? |
| 17:31.21 | mickey|thesis | B-test would make sense |
| 17:31.37 | mickey|thesis | A-test might be a bit too rough |
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| 17:42.18 | Interrobang | i've tried searching for any mention of tclock, epplet, or emodule to try and build tclock for enlightenment with no sucess (http://pastebin.ca/73257). what do i need to do in order to build tclock? |
| 17:42.46 | Interrobang | JustinP said it was in OE, namely the configure scripts, but i'm not finding anything. i need some help |
| 17:45.37 | Interrobang | the only thing related that i can find is " pkgdir = @e_modules@/engage/$(MODULE_ARCH)" in packages/e17/engage/no-local-includes.patch, but i don't see how to expand that into building tclock |
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| 17:50.29 | Interrobang | full explanation: http://pastebin.ca/73283 |
| 17:51.57 | koen | Interrobang: better ask JustinP again |
| 17:52.40 | Interrobang | i've asked him twice already and he keeps saying it's in OE, but i'm not finding any trace of it |
| 17:53.09 | Interrobang | he won't give me any details |
| 17:53.45 | Interrobang | it's not a package (1st answer) and it's not in any configure script (2nd answer) |
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| 18:29.12 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r7817ada2... 10/packages/gcc/gcc_4.1.1.bb: gcc 4.1.1: raise default pref since it has proven to be working quite well |
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| 18:36.57 | kitno455 | koen, has anyone been working on gcc 4.1.1 thumb support? |
| 18:37.19 | koen | kitno455: 4.1.1 supports eabi, which mandates thumb support |
| 18:37.29 | kitno455 | interesting. |
| 18:37.30 | koen | on my pxa devices it seems to be working |
| 18:38.11 | kitno455 | i have been building from the slugos tree, and i cannot build uclibc with 4.1.1 thumb |
| 18:38.32 | koen | armeb might have some troubles |
| 18:38.36 | koen | (as usual) |
| 18:38.52 | kitno455 | more effort is put into arm le? |
| 18:38.58 | koen | yeah |
| 18:39.21 | koen | each gcc has to be taught about armeb when it's released |
| 18:39.35 | kitno455 | thats too bad |
| 18:39.46 | koen | indeed |
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| 18:40.58 | kitno455 | especially interesting given intels better support for the NPEs on eb |
| 18:41.35 | koen | intel doesn't care a lot about getting their stuff upstream by the looks of it |
| 18:41.54 | kitno455 | no kidding, 800 lb gorrillas tend to be that way |
| 18:42.53 | kitno455 | the gcc guys feel like they have too many platforms already, or is there some other reason not to include armeb? |
| 18:43.30 | emte | why would intel care about gcc? |
| 18:43.39 | emte | they have thier own compiler |
| 18:43.43 | koen | probably to little maintainers |
| 18:43.48 | kitno455 | right |
| 18:43.49 | Kristoffer | Is gcc dropping armb? |
| 18:44.04 | kitno455 | sounds like it never had it :) |
| 18:44.06 | koen | Kristoffer: you can't drop stuff you don't support |
| 18:44.17 | Kristoffer | hmm, roger |
| 18:44.35 | cbrake | Intel probably cares even less now ... and Marvell's track record -- hmmm |
| 18:44.40 | emte | it was rteh codesourcery peopel taht added it, no? |
| 18:44.42 | emte | the* |
| 18:44.53 | koen | see http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/packages/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/800-arm-bigendian.patch |
| 18:45.08 | koen | emte: no, csl is for 99.999999% about LE |
| 18:45.20 | emte | ah |
| 18:45.57 | kitno455 | i am using 3.4.4 now, and it seems fine for my purposes |
| 18:46.21 | pb__ | hi mickey|thesis |
| 18:47.08 | emte | hmm, intel has released compilers for OSx |
| 18:48.14 | kitno455 | yes, and apple has decided to allow non-osx os's on their mactels. wtf is the world coming to? |
| 18:48.45 | mickey|thesis | hi pb_ |
| 18:49.09 | koen | hmmm |
| 18:49.22 | koen | rm * in deploy/ipk isn't too smart |
| 18:49.25 | koen | *sigh* |
| 18:49.28 | kitno455 | ahahah |
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| 18:50.28 | emte | kitno455, you already know, eventually apple and MS will merge |
| 18:50.35 | kitno455 | ahaha |
| 18:51.03 | kitno455 | MS never merges |
| 18:51.08 | kitno455 | they only swallow |
| 18:51.13 | emte | they cant take over apple |
| 18:51.24 | emte | the us gov wouldnt allow it |
| 18:51.45 | emte | fair competition etc |
| 18:51.55 | kitno455 | have you ever heard the saying 'whats good for GM?' |
| 18:52.08 | emte | you mean the RC church? |
| 18:52.15 | emte | whenver they decree |
| 18:52.19 | emte | whatever* |
| 18:52.26 | kitno455 | the car company |
| 18:52.51 | kitno455 | search for it. the government can be bought |
| 18:53.20 | kitno455 | actually MS and apple's portfolios dont overlap much |
| 18:53.36 | emte | the Roman Catholic Church holds the majority shares of GM |
| 18:54.14 | kitno455 | apple makes more cash from itunes and ipods, MS from office and xbox |
| 18:54.26 | CIA-9 | 03kristoffer 07org.oe.dev * r04349a15... 10/conf/distro/jlime-donkey.conf: |
| 18:54.26 | CIA-9 | jlime-donkey.conf: Setting CVS date in distro file |
| 18:54.26 | CIA-9 | Nearing release, so lets stop the endless cvs updates. |
| 18:55.36 | kitno455 | the fact that both of them make an OS is really incidental |
| 18:55.36 | emte | that is because apple killed their berad and butter market |
| 18:55.36 | emte | bread* |
| 18:55.36 | kitno455 | nah |
| 18:55.36 | kitno455 | apple missed the mark by staying proprietary hardware |
| 18:55.37 | emte | they signed the death warrant on their OS when they moved to OSX and abandoned the graphics/printing markets |
| 18:56.29 | kitno455 | they did not abandon those markets, they abandoned the application developers |
| 18:56.49 | kitno455 | the app devels decide what market an os gets used in |
| 18:57.05 | emte | they made public statements they were moving into the server and desktop markets |
| 18:57.52 | kitno455 | and microsoft makes a public statement once per week for the last 10 years that longho^H^H^H^H^H vista is right around the corner |
| 18:58.13 | kitno455 | public statements are meaningless |
| 18:58.13 | emte | it should be now |
| 18:58.18 | kitno455 | hahaha |
| 18:58.35 | emte | with IBM's new 500GHz chip, something can actually run it :P |
| 18:58.57 | kitno455 | i got some swampland in FL that i would love to sell you if you think what they are about to ship is the thing they have been promising all this time |
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| 19:02.47 | JustinP | Interrobang: no, I didn't say that |
| 19:02.53 | JustinP | Interrobang: you're not following |
| 19:03.02 | JustinP | Interrobang: I said the *deps* should be in OE, not the module |
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| 19:09.29 | Interrobang | JustinP: oh ok, then what do i do about making a .bb file for tclock? from what i've gathered so far, it's an integral part of the enlightenment compilation. |
| 19:10.09 | emte | kitno455, i have no idea what they have been promising, i havent used windows willingly in 10 yrs |
| 19:10.17 | Interrobang | should i add something to e17.bb or make a seperate file? |
| 19:10.56 | pb__ | zecke: good evening |
| 19:11.03 | emte | i cant say i recall ever seeing that in e17 |
| 19:11.05 | Interrobang | tclock is an applet for enlightenment with a digital only display |
| 19:11.22 | emte | ah its an applet, no wonder |
| 19:11.24 | Interrobang | the default clock app forces an analog component |
| 19:11.37 | Interrobang | no idea why they did that |
| 19:11.49 | emte | it looks nicer and is easier to read |
| 19:11.52 | zecke | master! |
| 19:12.15 | Interrobang | digital is much easier, and besides, why bother with both? |
| 19:12.35 | emte | i am not sure but i wouldnt count on applet support much longer |
| 19:12.53 | emte | i know all the module stuff is getting overhauled |
| 19:13.49 | kergoth | hey emte, pb__ |
| 19:13.50 | emte | the new gadcon code has had quite an impact |
| 19:13.55 | emte | hey kergoth |
| 19:14.32 | emte | you wanna hire me? |
| 19:14.47 | emte | i could ... chase rabbits out of your garden |
| 19:15.00 | kergoth | hehe, um, no |
| 19:15.36 | zecke | kergoth: I don't mind killing humans, hire me :) |
| 19:15.58 | kergoth | thats just -too- tempting. i dont trust myself enough ;) |
| 19:16.01 | emte | hey yeah |
| 19:16.05 | emte | that sounds fun too |
| 19:16.14 | kergoth | start work for o-hand on july 10th :) |
| 19:16.25 | emte | so your on holidays? |
| 19:16.27 | zecke | kergoth: you start to work? |
| 19:16.34 | kergoth | in the last 2 weeks of my current job |
| 19:16.34 | zecke | kergoth: hey, congratulation! |
| 19:16.41 | kergoth | thanks |
| 19:16.50 | emte | take the freebies and RUN!!! |
| 19:16.51 | kitno455 | kergoth, still with soldier stuff? |
| 19:17.06 | kergoth | am now, for the next two weeks, yep |
| 19:17.20 | kitno455 | new job more peaceful? |
| 19:17.36 | emte | it will be soldiers of misfortune after kergoth is gone |
| 19:17.38 | kergoth | happy to be getting out fo it though. theres a good team here, but its so frustrating dealign with all the overhead and politics and red tape |
| 19:18.00 | zecke | kergoth: where will you move? |
| 19:18.09 | ggilbert_ | kergoth: No more trying to design equipment that won't ever actually be cheap enough to deploy? :p |
| 19:18.12 | kitno455 | can you be sure your new job will not be the same? i have worked alot of places, they all have that |
| 19:18.29 | JustinP | Interrobang: if it's part of e then...is it already in the packages? Have you looked? |
| 19:18.30 | kergoth | kitno455: openedhand.com is 8 people, and is owned by an embedded linux developer |
| 19:18.37 | kergoth | kitno455: i doubt there will be nearly as much :P |
| 19:18.42 | kitno455 | right |
| 19:18.46 | CIA-9 | 03justinp 07org.oe.oz354x * r88441755... 10/.mt-attrs: .mt-attrs: remove non-existant file |
| 19:18.50 | CIA-9 | 03justinp 07org.oe.oz354x * re968a896... 10/.mt-attrs: .mt-attrs: remove non-existant file |
| 19:19.43 | ggilbert_ | If openhand has as much red tape as a defense contractor, I'd be very very afraid :p |
| 19:20.50 | zecke | ggilbert_: they might hope, kergoth is assimilating competitors? |
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| 19:22.29 | bioeng | Hi |
| 19:22.33 | bioeng | Is anyone around? |
| 19:22.40 | zecke | ~seen anyone |
| 19:22.51 | ibot | anyone <n=username@3E6B9A9A.rev.stofanet.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 169d 21h 30m 11s ago, saying: '[necro], but I don't know actually.'. |
| 19:23.05 | ggilbert_ | He's apparantly been gone for a while |
| 19:23.43 | bioeng | Well |
| 19:23.57 | bioeng | I'm not going to be able to be in electrical and computer engineering anymore |
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| 19:24.29 | bioeng | So I wanted to thank this community for really trying to help me |
| 19:24.45 | [g2] | kergoth _congrats_ ! |
| 19:25.06 | bioeng | Is kergoth around? |
| 19:25.26 | zecke | kergoth: ~two more years and I will be a colleague of you as well ;) |
| 19:25.51 | bioeng | What do you mean by that zecke? |
| 19:26.20 | [g2] | I guess in ~ 2 years zecke plans to graduate and join kergoth |
| 19:26.42 | bioeng | kergoth is a very nice person |
| 19:26.57 | ggilbert_ | clearly you haven't been here long enough |
| 19:27.05 | ggilbert_ | ibot, kergoth? |
| 19:27.11 | ibot | rumour has it, kergoth is Chris Larson, an open source developer, often in the embedded Linux arena. Currently working for Computer Sciences Corporation in Scottsdale, AZ. Contact at kergoth@handhelds.org Core dev / architect on the BitBake, OpenZaurus, and OpenEmbedded projects. Maintainer of hte tslib project. Often the resident BOFH, an often an ass. ... |
| 19:27.11 | [g2] | yes and super polite in the IRC channel |
| 19:27.18 | ggilbert_ | good god |
| 19:27.50 | [g2] | actually kergoth has chilled tremendously in the last couple years |
| 19:28.01 | bioeng | Well |
| 19:28.18 | bioeng | I apologize |
| 19:28.30 | zecke | hehe, BOFH, and often an ass applies to me :) |
| 19:28.35 | bioeng | I wish Linux could be part of my world |
| 19:28.41 | ggilbert_ | kergoth: is someone trying to writea biography for you? :p |
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| 19:29.04 | kitno455 | typo- '' hte tslib '' |
| 19:29.09 | kitno455 | ? |
| 19:29.21 | raduga | hi hrw: |
| 19:29.27 | raduga | dosbox 0.65 should "just work" |
| 19:30.16 | kitno455 | kergoth, you sure bioeng isn't a co-worker checking in on you :) |
| 19:30.27 | kergoth | hahah |
| 19:30.50 | kitno455 | trying to see if you working in your lame duck days |
| 19:31.10 | raduga | lame duck? |
| 19:31.27 | kitno455 | american expression |
| 19:31.31 | raduga | you found something else to do, besides supporting people who kill people? |
| 19:31.57 | raduga | kitno: i'm familiar with "lame duck" I just didn't know it applied to kergoth, in any special fashion |
| 19:32.15 | kitno455 | he knows he's leaving |
| 19:32.15 | ggilbert_ | hehe. kergoth's current employer doesn't see, to be particularly popular here |
| 19:32.24 | Interrobang | JustinP: i unpacked e-wm, edje-utils, embryo-utils, enchant, entrance, and esmart-x11-examples (all e-related files minus libs in the ewi feed). no tclock found. |
| 19:32.30 | raduga | kitno: i did not know |
| 19:32.34 | kitno455 | ah |
| 19:32.48 | zecke | ggilbert_: hehe |
| 19:33.01 | Interrobang | JustinP: nothing named tclock in the feeds either |
| 19:33.20 | kitno455 | yes, american imperial hubris has made us a few detractors :) |
| 19:35.09 | raduga | kitno: is there something wrong with not wanting to be killed by homicidal maniacs with guns and uniforms? |
| 19:35.27 | raduga | kitno: its not about "america sux" so much as "people who kill people sux" |
| 19:35.35 | mr_nice_slacker | Interrobang:in which cvs directory of enlightenment 17 is that tclock thing? |
| 19:35.36 | kitno455 | now something must be done, about vengance, a badge and a gun :) |
| 19:36.10 | kitno455 | have you ever been shot at, raduga? |
| 19:36.18 | koen | kergoth: what position are you going to take up at o-hand? |
| 19:36.25 | koen | kergoth: kernel-dev or PR dude? |
| 19:36.31 | kergoth | just an embedded linux dev position |
| 19:36.33 | raduga | kitno: not shot at. I've been threatened by people waving guns at me. |
| 19:36.35 | kergoth | hahaha, me in PR |
| 19:36.39 | raduga | kitno: they didn't actually shoot. |
| 19:36.41 | kergoth | thatd be just scary |
| 19:37.13 | koen | kergoth: did you see the collie sd stuff in the oz wiki? |
| 19:37.51 | kergoth | nope. did get pulled into an email thread with beattie and pavel |
| 19:38.09 | kitno455 | kergoth will now take the podium to explain our companies position on that question.... |
| 19:38.21 | kitno455 | sound worse than being shot at :) |
| 19:39.03 | Interrobang | mr_nice_slacker: i don't know how cvs works, but this is the command to check it out: cvs -z3 -d :pserver:anonymous@anoncvs.enlightenment.org:/var/cvs/e co e_modules/tclock |
| 19:40.22 | ggilbert_ | I can just imagine you responding to questions with "quit wasting my time" |
| 19:40.35 | koen | "I am not your fact-bot" |
| 19:41.14 | kitno455 | or whipping out a pda and doing something else :) |
| 19:41.35 | kergoth | ggilbert and koen know me better than you do, clearly ;) |
| 19:41.39 | kitno455 | yes |
| 19:41.49 | kitno455 | you dont like to play tetris :) |
| 19:42.10 | kitno455 | i find that useful when i get crap in staff meetings |
| 19:42.24 | raduga | kitno: you don't like to play Global Thermonuclear War? |
| 19:42.38 | raduga | ~lart raduga |
| 19:42.38 | kitno455 | do you want to play a game? |
| 19:43.24 | kitno455 | kergoth, you are not at guadec? i know o-hand is there |
| 19:44.17 | kergoth | nah, i just signed the contract today, too new |
| 19:44.26 | kergoth | cant afford to go myself :) |
| 19:44.27 | ggilbert_ | wait |
| 19:44.27 | mr_nice_slacker | Interrobang: I think it is not included in oe at the moment as the other .bb files in e17 are named as they are in cvs. |
| 19:44.32 | zecke | mallum did not blog about you yet |
| 19:44.36 | ggilbert_ | isn't open hand located in England |
| 19:44.39 | kergoth | yep |
| 19:44.40 | ggilbert_ | moving or telecommuting? |
| 19:44.43 | kergoth | telecommute |
| 19:44.49 | ggilbert_ | ah |
| 19:44.54 | kitno455 | gonna stay in AZ? |
| 19:44.55 | koen | ggilbert: they have employees in .lt as well :) |
| 19:44.59 | koen | or .lv |
| 19:45.01 | emte | telepotring |
| 19:45.02 | ggilbert_ | Where is lv? |
| 19:45.02 | Interrobang | mr_nice_slacker: i think so too, but JustinP keeps insiting it's in there or even the feeds |
| 19:45.08 | ggilbert_ | I suck at country codes |
| 19:45.09 | zecke | ggilbert_: IIRC o-hand does not even have an office :) |
| 19:45.10 | emte | latavia |
| 19:45.12 | mr_nice_slacker | Interrobang: but I am not involved in oe and have not realy a clue about it. you can try to build a .bb file |
| 19:45.23 | kitno455 | latvia |
| 19:45.39 | zecke | okay need to work! |
| 19:45.41 | mr_nice_slacker | Interrobang: no he sad, that everything which is in the main e17 cvs is included |
| 19:45.52 | zecke | kergoth: Good luck, success and pleasure with your new job! |
| 19:45.56 | emte | mr_nice_slacker, the bb files in CVS are INVALID |
| 19:46.04 | kitno455 | yes, work! work! me too |
| 19:46.07 | mr_nice_slacker | Interrobang: e_modules are not in the main cvs |
| 19:46.09 | emte | i should actually remove them |
| 19:46.22 | kitno455 | adios |
| 19:46.28 | Interrobang | mr_nice_slacker: no, he said that just now while you were listing. i've been discussing this with him before today |
| 19:47.11 | emte | they are from a land before time |
| 19:47.16 | mr_nice_slacker | Interrobang: beleefe me I am not that impressive person *g I am just a user like you |
| 19:47.44 | emte | they are manglings from raster and i, JustinP's meta in the repo are the correct ones |
| 19:48.40 | Interrobang | i'm just looking for some trace of tclock, epplets, emodules or e_modules, and i'm not fiding any in the feeds or OE |
| 19:48.52 | koen | epplets are for e16 |
| 19:49.12 | Interrobang | i'm just looking for a trail at least since i can't find it directly |
| 19:49.22 | koen | see packages/e17 and packages/e17 for the e stuff |
| 19:49.44 | Interrobang | already looked |
| 19:50.20 | Interrobang | only and engage configure patch has 1 line with e_modules in it, and i don't see how to expand that into compile other things |
| 19:50.56 | Interrobang | emte: i know where they are, just not in OE. and it's a simpel clock display, not fdisk |
| 19:51.08 | emte | all the modules stuff will be tossed out here in ~ a week or two |
| 19:51.27 | emte | to be rewritten with the new standards set |
| 19:51.32 | Interrobang | *cries* i just want a digital only clock display |
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| 19:52.07 | emte | lol |
| 19:52.29 | bgat | there's a rumor going around saying that there's a "patch for larger SD cards" available somewhere. I have a pxa255-based board that barfs on 1GB and larger cards; can anyone point me to the patch, if it exists? |
| 19:53.09 | emte | use jdac or dclock |
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| 19:53.37 | Interrobang | and where do i get those? |
| 19:53.47 | emte | reenoo, yeah i dont know what i was thinking sending to the wrong list |
| 19:53.57 | emte | http://freshmeat.net |
| 19:54.05 | emte | search digital clock |
| 19:54.10 | reenoo | evening |
| 19:54.33 | reenoo | hey emte |
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| 19:54.39 | raduga | bgat: you might try looking at RP's patch tree |
| 19:54.46 | raduga | http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/patches |
| 19:55.00 | raduga | this one *might* have stuff you can use |
| 19:55.01 | raduga | http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/patches/archive/mmcsd_large_cards-r0.patch |
| 19:55.26 | Interrobang | emte: jdac wasn't found, and will dclock be embedded in the desktop across all desktops or float around like a normal app window? |
| 19:55.34 | bgat | raduga: I'll take a look at those. Thanks! |
| 19:56.06 | emte | normal application i'd suspect, hey how about just using gkrellm? |
| 19:56.17 | emte | it has a digital clock |
| 19:56.22 | Interrobang | does that embed into e? |
| 19:56.50 | reenoo | hrw|gone: thanks for your botmail regarding qte. actually that patch is already in my tree though. |
| 19:57.23 | emte | it doesnt but you can see your cpu temp etc |
| 20:00.27 | raduga | is the 'fix for large SD cards' just 'make block size 512b' ? or is there more to it than that? |
| 20:05.28 | bgat | raduga: I just tried that patch, and it seems to work for my 2GB card. Am hoping to test my 1GB card shortly... |
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| 20:07.38 | bgat | raduga: the patch itself is four lines of C code, which just forces the "csd.read_blkbits" field to 9. (because 2^9 == 512?). I wish I knew more about MMC card descriptors.... but now I don' |
| 20:07.48 | bgat | ... but now I don't have to! :) |
| 20:11.17 | bgat | raduga: According to lxr, elsewhere in mmc_block.c there's some logic that selects the smaller of read_blkbits or write_blkbits, so the patch ends up forcing the card to use 512-byte blocks or smaller for both reads and writes. |
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| 20:21.27 | koen | "... and now it has, complements of those good guys over at OpenEmbedded. At least on my 2.0GB card. " |
| 20:21.37 | koen | as seen on L-A-K |
| 20:21.46 | koen | bgat: nice to hear it works now |
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| 20:28.04 | bgat | koen: now we've just got to see to it that the patch gets into mainline. If rmk doesn't do it proactively, I'll submit it to the patch system. |
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| 20:37.19 | kitno455 | ok, still having problems with ipkg installing already installed packages of same version |
| 20:37.44 | kitno455 | i have tried to play with my .bb file and look for something i did wrong, but i dont see anything |
| 20:38.24 | kitno455 | koen guessed it might be an ipkg bug? |
| 20:40.01 | koen | kitno455: you could try to compile a newer ipkg and test with that |
| 20:40.07 | koen | it's at .162 now |
| 20:40.09 | kitno455 | ok |
| 20:40.16 | koen | or maybe newer, haven't looked in a while |
| 20:40.35 | kitno455 | i notice that some .bb files have pkg_prerm() |
| 20:40.53 | kitno455 | and others have pkg_prerm_${PN}() |
| 20:41.00 | kitno455 | which should i use? |
| 20:41.21 | koen | pkg_prerm_${PN}() is probably the safest if you have subpackages |
| 20:41.28 | kitno455 | i want to make sure there is nothing weird about my .bb first |
| 20:41.40 | kitno455 | it seems that my prerm is not getting run |
| 20:41.58 | kitno455 | i want to stop the daemon before the install |
| 20:42.16 | kitno455 | but it seems to install first, then run the prerm |
| 20:43.08 | kitno455 | i see .159 |
| 20:43.29 | koen | there's no .bb for it yet, put it should be a simple cp |
| 20:43.30 | kitno455 | i have not run mtn update in awhile, due to gcc 4.1.1 though |
| 20:43.49 | kitno455 | ok, i will whip that up and see. |
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| 21:10.10 | chris144 | nite folks |
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| 21:12.29 | poli | mickey|fifa2006: yes, sure... I just got a fresh .dev co and did a bitbake bootstrap-image. The error is on libtool-native and it says: | configure: error: source directory already configured; run "make distclean" there first |
| 21:13.07 | poli | Even after a bitbake libtool-native -c clean and double checking if the stamps werent there the error is always this and persists. |
| 21:13.23 | poli | So, I am unable to bitbake angstrom. :( |
| 21:14.03 | kergoth | sounds like you're buildign within a path that has a symlink involved |
| 21:15.05 | poli | kergoth: amazing... how did you find that out? |
| 21:15.19 | JustinP | Interrobang: then I doubt it's an "integral part of e17" |
| 21:15.34 | JustinP | Interrobang: your best bet is to try your hand at a bbfile....I really don't have the time |
| 21:15.48 | JustinP | to be quite honest I haven't even tested the packages I pushed a few weeks ago..... |
| 21:15.55 | JustinP | they build, just didn't have time to *test* them |
| 21:16.00 | JustinP | hopefully today.... |
| 21:16.23 | koen | poli: kergoth has ESP ;) |
| 21:17.35 | poli | koen: I bet ;) As you found out I had kerberos installed the first time ;) |
| 21:17.48 | poli | But it did work on the "other" branch. :) |
| 21:21.30 | JustinP | Interrobang: can you show me where the module is in CVS? Then check the package tarballs on http://enlightenment.freedesktop.org/ to see if it's included |
| 21:21.56 | koen | ~users |
| 21:21.58 | ibot | so this is what we get for sharing our unpaid volunteer work with you? complaints and accuses? <irony> well done, this clearly supports our motivation to continue working on open source projects. </irony> |
| 21:22.07 | koen | "the 3.5.4.1 feeds are gone" |
| 21:22.09 | koen | djeez |
| 21:22.15 | koen | idiots |
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| 21:28.19 | CIA-9 | 03eFfeM 07org.oe.dev * r6170ab21... 10/packages/icecast/icecast_2.2.0.bb: |
| 21:28.19 | CIA-9 | icecast: added --disable-yp (otherwise it will try to use curl but for |
| 21:28.19 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:29.54 | koen | 'night all |
| 21:34.56 | kergoth | ooh, the wget 1.11 alpha supports the content-disposition filename header. no more download.php?foobar downloaded filenames |
| 21:36.40 | poli | Ok... Now what should I do to get it compiled without sym links? bitbake "remembers" where libs are and the error persists. |
| 21:36.51 | poli | *where the libs were |
| 21:39.34 | kergoth | you could try just cleaning the one package you're having trouble with, but a wipe of tmp may be necessary. some scripts/binaries installed into staging get the full path hardcoded in them |
| 21:40.35 | poli | kergoth: had to remove tmp and start over... bitbake remembers the old paths and keeps looking for libraries etc under the link. |
| 21:40.38 | poli | kergoth: thanks. |
| 21:41.49 | kergoth | it isnt bitbake remembering, its some of the tools in OE that get staged |
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| 21:42.35 | JustinP | yeah |
| 21:47.48 | cbrake | I think I have figured out my autobaud algorithm. |
| 21:48.23 | cbrake | oops, wrong window :-\ |
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| 22:05.29 | poli | kergoth: ok, now it works. thanks! |
| 22:08.00 | CoreDump|home | hi |
| 22:08.08 | CoreDump|home | hrw|gone: yep, it can be dropped |
| 22:08.57 | kergoth | poli: np |
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| 22:19.03 | Interrobang | JustinP: using the cvs commands on the E download page (http://www.enlightenment.org/Enlightenment/Get_Enlightenment/), just checkout the module name "e_modules/tclock". the sf cvs site is down so i can't give you a http link |
| 22:24.39 | JustinP | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:24.51 | JustinP | e_modules isn't released and wouldn't build last I tried |
| 22:25.06 | JustinP | I abandoned the CVS packages a while ago due to lack of time |
| 22:27.18 | Interrobang | JustinP: i just tried it, it works |
| 22:27.40 | Interrobang | dunno about building though, cause that would require a complete E installation |
| 22:28.09 | Interrobang | my distro only has 16.7 |
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| 22:41.54 | pb__ | g'day kergoth |
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| 22:52.44 | reenoo | evening pb__ |
| 23:01.31 | Interrobang | is any1 using bitbake 1.4.3 with the oe.dev branch? |
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