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01:21.31 | JustinP | dtx: if you're running out of space on boot you need to remove some programs from your image, yes |
01:23.53 | dtx | What is the difference between .summary.img and .img? |
01:24.02 | JustinP | no idea |
01:24.10 | dtx | hmmm |
01:24.13 | JustinP | never seen a .summary.img AFAIK |
01:24.30 | dtx | I'm building on the .dev branch I don't know how different that is |
01:24.57 | JustinP | that's why you're getting different results |
01:25.08 | JustinP | OZ is released from release branches |
01:25.11 | JustinP | right now it's .oz354x |
01:25.17 | dtx | When I build an image it puts three files in the deploy/imaqes folder: the .img, .summary.img (which is about 10MB larger than .img), and the .tar.bz2 |
01:25.40 | JustinP | you can always try the tarball and altboot to test |
01:25.42 | JustinP | on an SD card or something |
01:26.11 | dtx | altboot? |
01:26.51 | dtx | So what files does it build for yours? |
01:26.57 | dtx | when you build an image |
01:28.37 | dtx | And are the .dev and .oz354x branches really that different? |
01:34.30 | Kerwood | mmm hmm... |
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03:41.56 | chouimat|Zzz | night |
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05:02.26 | myopiate | patches won't apply if patch level != 1 Bug maybe |
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05:53.01 | emte | myopiate, if your paths are so wrong that they didnt apply, its a user malfunction |
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07:00.09 | Genesis | hi |
07:00.59 | myopiate | emte, I looked in the run.do_patchcmd.xxxx file generated, no matter what I set the file://patchfile.patch;patch=x argument to in my bb file, the generated code to manipulate quilt, always imports the patch as -p 1. I did a quick grep on the whole package directory, only linux/linux-jlime-jornada6xx_2.6.17.bb has set the patch level to anything other than 1 and I expect not many people build this. I haven't got time to learn |
07:01.00 | myopiate | <PROTECTED> |
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07:27.31 | koen | good morning all |
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07:33.48 | alan|philo | morning koen and all |
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07:57.42 | wrobbie | hmm.. how can I see the history of a file? initscripts-1.0/mountall.sh for example. 'mtn log ./mountall.sh' seems to give the log for the whole repo.. |
07:58.16 | koen | wrobbie: that's a bug in monotone, please add it to their bugtracker |
07:58.46 | wrobbie | koen: it's a known bug? |
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07:59.13 | koen | we discovered it yesterday, but I don't think anyone has filed a bug about it |
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07:59.41 | wrobbie | oh.. coincidence :) can I use viewmtn for this sort of thing? |
07:59.52 | wrobbie | (history) |
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08:02.00 | koen | dunno |
08:02.16 | koen | I search the rss feed of the commits with my newsreader |
08:03.23 | koobla | hiya, I want to set variables in my image.bb file that should be used in the kernel bb file so some patches get applied or not - is that possible? |
08:03.44 | koobla | or should i go for the machine.conf file instead? |
08:05.15 | koen | koobla: why not make the patches machinespecific in the kernel.bb? |
08:05.47 | koobla | well, its not _only_ patches - i want to configure the whole software needed as well :) |
08:06.01 | koobla | so daemons, apps, etc. |
08:06.21 | koobla | i would want kernel features enabled depending on other software installed, basically |
08:06.48 | koobla | and pop out a descriptor file telling me which hardware I have to plug into the device :) |
08:07.04 | wrobbie | Ah, known bug indeed.. https://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?func=detailitem&item_id=16925 |
08:07.45 | koobla | I will go for bashing up a conf file, I think |
08:10.18 | XorA | mornng |
08:18.37 | koen | hey XorA |
08:19.09 | XorA | bloody power cut has cooked me server room :-) |
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08:26.59 | rob_w | hey .. how could i inplement a buildversion number which is generated at compile time which gives me the date when it was compiled ? |
08:27.16 | XorA | ~lart kvm manufacturers for being morons |
08:33.22 | hrw|work | morning all |
08:33.27 | XorA | hey hrw|work |
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08:39.25 | koen | rob_w: inside a program? |
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08:39.45 | koen | rob_w: kbdd does that with -DVERSION = "something" |
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08:49.08 | hrw|work | koen|away: I wonder when you will get working Backspace/Delete keys in mailer.. |
08:49.37 | koen | hrw|work: apples don't have a delete key :) |
08:49.46 | koen | and my backspace has an annoyance detector |
08:49.54 | koen | it doesn't work if I'm annoyed |
08:50.26 | hrw|work | one day I will write filter which will add authors to blacklist if quote is >XX% of mail |
08:50.54 | rob_w | koen, kbdd ?? |
08:51.10 | koen | rob_w: packages/kbdd/ |
08:51.19 | rob_w | a example ,, right thanks |
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09:12.20 | Cobelius | Who of you helped me in the last time? I want to write the namens of the people who supported me in my documentation and don't want to forget somebody |
09:14.26 | Cobelius | Does somebody know who was the founder of OpenZaurus? |
09:14.37 | koen | kergoth: aka Chris Larson |
09:14.39 | hrw|work | kergoth |
09:15.13 | hrw|work | kergoth created OZ, then some devs maintained it, then mickeyl took leadership |
09:15.14 | Cobelius | okay |
09:15.39 | hrw|work | then I took many OZ work |
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09:16.47 | Cobelius | Okay |
09:18.12 | Cobelius | @hrw, koen: Is it okay that I write your names in my documentation? |
09:18.24 | sirfred | morning |
09:18.57 | hrw|work | Cobelius: feel free |
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09:19.54 | koen | Cobelius: sure |
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09:19.59 | koen | hey sirfred & mikearthur |
09:20.01 | koen | hey mallum |
09:20.16 | mikearthur | hey koen |
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09:20.33 | mikearthur | sadly, on .oz354 for the tosa, I'm getting the same problem as last time, it can't find /etc/passwd |
09:20.38 | mikearthur | did a full rebuild |
09:20.51 | hrw|work | Cobelius: you use name/surname or some extra? nick/www/email? |
09:21.14 | mallum | hey koen |
09:21.48 | mikearthur | hrw|work: being the oz guru, you got any ideas why I'd get this on do_rootfs of gpe-image? |
09:22.03 | mikearthur | hrw|work: /home/mike/oe/tosa/tmp/openzaurus/work/gpe-image-1.0-r22/temp/run.do_rootfs.28457: line 159: /home/mike/oe/tosa/tmp/openzaurus/rootfs/etc/passwd: No such file or directory |
09:22.25 | hrw|work | mikearthur: no idea |
09:22.39 | koen | hrw|work: it seems base-passwd doesn't get installed via task-bootstrap |
09:22.39 | hrw|work | mikearthur: I will start new build so will know it tomorrow |
09:22.45 | mikearthur | cool, cheers |
09:22.51 | hrw|work | koen: fsck |
09:23.11 | koen | hrw|work: and you'll only notice that error with a gpe-image |
09:23.30 | koen | with opie you will notice after flashing |
09:23.43 | hrw|work | <PROTECTED> |
09:23.59 | koen | I *used* to have that problem a lot |
09:24.06 | hrw|work | ko |
09:24.10 | mikearthur | koen: how did you resolve it? |
09:24.13 | koen | but it suddenly went away |
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09:24.19 | koen | mikearthur: I have no idea |
09:24.25 | koen | I last saw it >1 years ago |
09:24.49 | mikearthur | :( |
09:25.14 | koen | mikearthur: could you have a look at the task-bootstrap .ipk in deploy? |
09:25.15 | CIA-9 | 03zecke123 * r559 10bitbake_qa/ (. bin/bittest lib/bittest/testreport_tinder.py): |
09:25.15 | CIA-9 | r494@holger-freythers-computer: ich | 2006-07-31 15:21:24 +0200 |
09:25.15 | CIA-9 | bitbake_qa/bin/bittest: Make it run by using the right variables/types |
09:25.15 | CIA-9 | r495@holger-freythers-computer: ich | 2006-07-31 15:22:04 +0200 |
09:25.15 | CIA-9 | bitbake_qa/lib/bittest/testreport_tinder.py: Make it work by creating the TMPDIR, sending the right stuff to the box |
09:25.34 | koen | hrw|work: you'll want the updated ipkg-utils from .dev in oz |
09:25.47 | koen | hrw|work: *much* faster feed index generation |
09:26.58 | hrw|work | good to know |
09:27.13 | hrw|work | koen: and I need to learn 'mtn pluck' usage |
09:27.33 | hrw|work | currently all my tryings == no results or 'too many conflicts' |
09:27.52 | mikearthur | koen: how can I open .ipk files? |
09:28.13 | koen | hrw|work: http://www.openembedded.org/viewmtn/revision.psp?id=5da015f7fffc310af490dfbd0f5eb4a33ea9b918 and http://www.openembedded.org/viewmtn/revision.psp?id=3b9b571fcf2e69f35b67ea4d0a90a8b2f174d8e5 |
09:28.34 | koen | mikearthur: ar x foo.ipk -> tar zxvf control.tar.gz |
09:28.42 | koen | mikearthur: they are .debs in disguise |
09:28.51 | mikearthur | ah k |
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09:32.14 | mikearthur | koen: bass-passwd has a default passwd file in /usr/share, bass-files has a bunch of relevent files but no passwd, taskbootstrap has no files |
09:34.53 | koen | mikearthur: the postinst of base-passwd takes care of that |
09:35.03 | koen | <PROTECTED> |
09:35.03 | koen | <PROTECTED> |
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09:44.56 | hrw|work | re |
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09:51.25 | koen | gah |
09:51.35 | koen | Xshm is broken in the new kdrive |
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09:52.46 | florian_kc | good morning |
09:53.39 | _law_ | hi flatronf701C |
09:53.44 | _law_ | hi florian_kc |
09:57.49 | florian_kc | hi _law_ |
09:58.06 | koen | grrr |
09:58.12 | koen | kdrive is indeed busted |
09:58.50 | XorA | ~cheer koen |
09:58.51 | ibot | ACTION cheers koen on |
09:59.07 | mallum | koen: Im running git Xephyr and it seems fine |
10:00.28 | koen | mallum: xfbdev on arm is busted |
10:00.28 | koen | mallum: app crash, get wrong colours, etc |
10:00.29 | koen | and the same apps work if I point $DISPLAY to my powerbook |
10:00.38 | XorA | koen: same experience here |
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10:01.28 | XorA | the gentoo on Z guys said xserver-xorg was running ncely for them |
10:01.41 | koen | florian_kc: /dev/mtdblock2 76.8M 60.7M 16.0M 79% / |
10:01.54 | koen | florian_kc: the xserver is not that much bigger |
10:02.06 | mallum | koen: what configure flags are you building with ? |
10:02.41 | mikearthur | koen: should task-bootstrap have an /etc/passwd? |
10:02.55 | hrw|work | mikearthur: no - it should depend on base-passwd |
10:03.19 | mikearthur | where should the /etc/passwd be? base-files? |
10:03.58 | hrw|work | base-passwd |
10:04.28 | mikearthur | my base-passwd tar just seems to have the password files in /usr/share, but nothing in /etc/ |
10:04.52 | koen | mikearthur: check the postinst |
10:05.05 | mikearthur | the postinst logs? |
10:05.14 | koen | no, the postinst itself :) |
10:05.28 | mikearthur | I looked at it, and its seems to be there |
10:05.38 | mikearthur | well, its in do_install |
10:05.41 | mikearthur | but when does that get called? |
10:06.18 | koen | mallum: let me try xserver-kdrive-X11R7.1-1.1.0 |
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10:07.31 | hrw|work | re |
10:07.56 | hrw|work | now I should not be so often reconnected to ircnets |
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10:23.33 | mikearthur | koen: does do_install occur on the gpe-image or at the end of the base-passwd? |
10:25.27 | florian_kc | koen: hmm... i don't see anything except of the cursor in the new nbp image - is this the same effect you see? |
10:30.26 | koen | florian_kc: that's gpe-login crashing |
10:30.37 | koen | the kdrive bug I was talking about earlier |
10:31.01 | florian_kc | hrm nasty, gpe-login ran iirc |
10:31.52 | florian_kc | koen: obviously not... it is still there, and the greeter runs... |
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10:40.45 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r437eae22... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-proto/kbproto_X11R7.1-1.0.3.bb): kbproto: update to 1.0.3, needed for kdrive-git |
10:41.52 | hrw|work | ERROR: Nothing provides dependency virtual/arm-linux-gcc |
10:41.55 | hrw|work | argh |
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10:47.42 | hrw|work | hi Rene |
10:47.54 | reenoo | morning |
10:48.00 | reenoo | hey Marcin |
10:49.29 | koen | mallum: I think I fixed the xserver-xorg configure problem |
10:49.31 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r0447d20d... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-xserver/xserver-kdrive_git.bb): xserver-kdrive git: fix PV |
10:49.36 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r904e8055... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-xserver/xserver-xorg_X11R7.1-1.1.0.bb): xserver-xorg R7.1: fix configure brokenness by telling the ents.def file isn't there |
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10:52.53 | mallum | koen: cool |
10:53.34 | koen | Packaged contents of xserver-kdrive-fbdev into /data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/deploy/ipk/xserver-kdrive-fbdev_1.1.0+git-r0_armv5te.ipk |
10:53.59 | koen | mallum: the fix was easy: putting on my o-hand shirt :) |
10:54.11 | hrw|work | koen: how you will update xserver-kdrive-fbdev git? |
10:54.21 | mallum | koen: :) ah rare 2nd issue too ;) |
10:54.27 | hrw|work | 1.1.0+git-r0 does not keep any info which ver it is |
10:57.32 | koen | good point |
10:59.38 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r8b194be1... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-xserver/xserver-kdrive_git.bb): xserver-kdrive git: include SRCDATE in PV, even if it doesn't make sense for git trees |
10:59.54 | koen | mallum: NOTE: package xserver-xorg-X11R7.1-1.1.0-r0: task do_compile: started |
11:00.10 | kergoth | nice |
11:01.54 | koen | I could spend a whole summer cross referencing fixes in the OE tree |
11:02.15 | kergoth | no doubt |
11:03.51 | hrw|work | koen: git use SRCDATE? |
11:04.10 | koen | hrw|work: could be |
11:04.35 | koen | hrw|work: it was the only thing I could apply to give info on the version |
11:04.52 | koen | ideally the git fetcher would export the rev |
11:06.03 | koen | "Extended Input Devices not yet supported. Impelement it at line 625 in kinput.c" |
11:06.05 | koen | cute |
11:06.46 | koen | yay! |
11:06.51 | koen | crashes are gone |
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11:17.46 | florian_kc | koen: could you take a look at 0d0dcc009c37fcecc54e97eba35a6168bb1b18a4, that seems to cause #1275 |
11:17.46 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rd2493a3f... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2006.9.conf): angstrom-2006.9: prefer a kdrive that actually work :) |
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11:18.08 | psokolovsky_ | Hi! |
11:18.09 | koen | florian_kc: No such revision 0d0dcc009c37fcecc54e97eba35a6168bb1b18a4 |
11:18.31 | psokolovsky_ | Isn't there process accounting utils package in OE? |
11:18.54 | koen | psokolovsky_: feel free to contribute one :) |
11:19.48 | psokolovsky_ | koen: Going to do that. Hacking on bootchart now, will submit patches soon. |
11:20.32 | koen | psokolovsky_: did you see http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/cms/running-bootchart-on-a-zaurus ? |
11:20.48 | florian_kc | koen: that's copied from the commit mail |
11:20.50 | psokolovsky_ | koen: Was my inspiration, thanks! ;-) |
11:21.20 | koen | florian_kc: the migration to .26 changed the revision numbers |
11:21.26 | XorA | koen: Im puzzled, I thought you needed GIT kdrive to get working one? |
11:21.47 | koen | XorA: it build the non-X11R7 by default |
11:21.52 | koen | built* |
11:22.00 | florian_kc | koen: extremely clever... i forwarded the mail |
11:23.11 | XorA | koen: ahah, see |
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11:23.30 | koen | florian_kc: I'm building libsoup from scratch to look at the problem |
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11:24.43 | florian_kc | koen: ok, many thanks... |
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11:47.05 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rc4e63023... 10/ (1 packages/gnome/libsoup_2.2.93.bb): libsoup: fix #1275 |
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11:55.35 | XorA | koen|away: wicked working xserver now |
11:59.04 | koen | XorA: :) |
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12:02.27 | koen | hey mickeyl |
12:02.47 | koen | mickeyl: if you copy the bits from angstrom*.conf you'll get a working X |
12:02.49 | mickeyl | hey guys |
12:02.53 | mickeyl | thanks |
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12:05.08 | _law_ | koen, thanks for fixing #1275 |
12:05.40 | XorA | koen: I suppose that means I should move to an Angstrom image for my Z now |
12:06.12 | koen | XorA: most of the stuff is working pretty good |
12:14.39 | ade|desk | koen: worth starting a beta set of images ready for 2006.9 ? |
12:15.28 | koen | ade|desk: I'm building a new set for http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/ |
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12:20.35 | Cobelius | NOTE: multiple providers are available (glibc, glibc-intermediate); |
12:20.36 | Cobelius | NOTE: consider defining PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/i586-linux-libc-for-gcc |
12:20.36 | Cobelius | NOTE: |
12:21.05 | Cobelius | hmn Since I use a newer bitbake version and updated the OpenEmbedded stuff I get this message |
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12:38.38 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r35adb381... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2006.9.conf): angstrom-2006.9: use a newer srcdate for gconf-dbus |
12:42.20 | Genesis | is someone using bitbake from gentoo portage ? |
12:42.44 | Genesis | i've same pb as http://pof.eslack.org/blog/2006/01/13/construir-imatge-linux-per-a-blueangel/ |
12:43.23 | hrw | Genesis: bitbake atleast 1.4.2? |
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12:44.33 | Genesis | yeap |
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12:58.24 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r7b0846d2... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-app/rgb_X11R7.1-1.0.1.bb): rgb _X11R7.1-1.0.1: ship rgb.txt |
12:58.44 | XorA | koen: sick of those rxvt messages :-) |
12:59.17 | koen | XorA: I fixed a typo in REPENDS so rgb now gets built :) |
13:00.25 | koen | and while I was watching it get built I noticed that it didn't ship rgb.txt |
13:06.02 | XorA | or a 3200 |
13:07.21 | koen | psokolovsky_: 'mtn log file' just got fixed in monotone head |
13:07.29 | hrw | XorA: good point |
13:07.43 | hrw | XorA: I will boot tosa from sd in next week probably |
13:07.52 | koen | [15:06] CIA-1: Matt Johnston <matt@ucc.asn.au> net.venge.monotone * r3eddb9f5f6ce8a7ca423a733cb908ceecb8c2cf3 / (6 files in 3 dirs): |
13:07.53 | koen | [15:06] CIA-1: 2006-08-03 Matt Johnston <matt@ucc.asn.au> |
13:07.53 | koen | [15:06] CIA-1: * cmd_diff_log.cc: don't include revisions with deleted files |
13:07.53 | koen | [15:06] CIA-1: when doing "log FILE". |
13:08.25 | psokolovsky_ | koen: Good news, thanks! Will try to build out of repo if new release won't come out soon ;-) |
13:08.47 | koen | psokolovsky_: they are on a monthly release schedule, so it should be out in a week or 2 |
13:08.55 | psokolovsky_ | ok |
13:09.15 | koen | if not, prod njs :) |
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13:32.57 | XorA | hrw: I never had lasting success on root on SD :-( |
13:33.08 | hrw | <PROTECTED> |
13:33.25 | hrw | XorA: I want to test native sdk - it is a bit hard with 64M flash |
13:33.28 | koen | XorA: I wonder if xfwm4 still crashes with the new kdrive |
13:33.43 | koen | hrw: chroot into a image on sd? |
13:33.57 | koen | or nfs |
13:34.12 | XorA | koen: I used to have X11R7.1 version on Z I must have accidently reverted :-( |
13:36.18 | koen | XorA: at least we found out what the trouble was |
13:36.44 | XorA | koen: yeah |
13:37.13 | XorA | koen: well at least we know its had some bugfixes :-) |
13:37.20 | koen | :) |
13:37.38 | koen | now I just need to figure out how to use distcc with avahi |
13:37.49 | hrw | koen: thats the option too |
13:39.34 | mikearthur | hrw: when should base-passwd.do_install be run? |
13:39.57 | hrw | mikearthur: on do_install() of base-passwd |
13:39.58 | koen | mikearthur: when ipkg installs it into the rootfs |
13:40.11 | koen | the postinsts that is |
13:40.27 | mikearthur | doesn't seem to happen |
13:40.55 | koen | mikearthur: did you check the control file of the task-bootstrap ipkg? |
13:41.13 | mikearthur | koen: its there, but what should I be looking for? |
13:41.23 | koen | the Depends: field |
13:41.28 | mikearthur | ok |
13:42.47 | mikearthur | koen: Depends: base-files, base-passwd |
13:42.53 | koen | hmm |
13:42.59 | koen | that should install base-passwd |
13:43.05 | mikearthur | it's installed |
13:43.12 | mikearthur | problem is, do_install doesn't seem to run |
13:43.16 | koen | what version ipkg-native do you have? |
13:43.32 | mikearthur | koen: should that be run on gpe-image? |
13:46.09 | mikearthur | koen: ipkg-native-0.99.154-r0 |
13:46.29 | koen | could you import the .163 from .dev? |
13:47.39 | mikearthur | utils or just ipkg |
13:48.24 | koen | ipkg |
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13:48.34 | mikearthur | ok, building now |
13:50.22 | mikearthur | then just try rebuilding task-bootstrap? |
13:50.49 | koen | yeah |
13:56.18 | ade|desk | koen where did you get your ep93xx board from ? |
13:56.50 | koen | ade|desk: from [g2], who got it from glomation inc iirc |
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13:57.03 | XorA | hey lrg |
13:57.06 | koen | hey lrg |
13:57.53 | lrg | hey XorA koen |
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13:58.00 | lrg | morning all |
13:58.01 | mikearthur | koen: still doesn't seem to be running do_install |
13:58.03 | mikearthur | at all |
13:58.12 | mikearthur | as I added an echo in it |
13:58.17 | koen | mikearthur: you mean the postinst? |
13:58.27 | mikearthur | no, I mean the do_install |
13:59.34 | koen | bitbake -b base-passwd.bb -c install -f |
14:02.33 | florian_kc | hi lrg |
14:03.35 | hrw | hi Liam |
14:06.46 | mikearthur | koen: I did mean the postinst :) |
14:06.55 | mikearthur | koen: I'm a muppet, sorry |
14:07.29 | mikearthur | koen: when should postinst be run? |
14:07.41 | koen | on ipkg install |
14:08.26 | mikearthur | koen: would that be in task_bootstrap or gpe-image? |
14:08.34 | mikearthur | koen: or base-files |
14:08.46 | koen | mikearthur: <foo>-image |
14:08.52 | mikearthur | koen: n1 |
14:09.09 | koen | XorA, hrw: xfwm4 works with the new kdrive |
14:14.24 | XorA | koen: cool |
14:14.35 | hrw | koen: plans for xfce-image? |
14:15.11 | koen | hrw: not really |
14:15.23 | koen | hrw: just curious if the crash was still there |
14:16.47 | koen | hrw: tell CoreDump|afk that xfwm works with the new kdrive ;) |
14:17.39 | hrw | koen: we will tell that new kdrive is not in .oz354x so he will not touch it |
14:17.48 | koen | drat |
14:18.13 | mikearthur | koen: it looks like gpe-image isn't doing the pkg_postinst for base-passwd |
14:18.40 | koen | mikearthur: not doing the postinst or not installing it at all? |
14:19.01 | hrw | koen: I know that this situation (when many devs does not touch .dev but use .oz354x) suxx but atleast we (those devs) can work on stuff instead of fixing and fixing |
14:19.05 | hrw | brb |
14:23.25 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r02dd63e8... 10/ (1 packages/xfwm4/xfwm4.inc): xfwm4.inc: RDEPEND on the default theme |
14:23.33 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * reb2bcd61... 10/ (1 packages/xfwm4/xfwm4.inc): xfwm4.inc: sed out pointers to host includes |
14:23.38 | koen | there |
14:23.49 | koen | now it builds and installs correctly |
14:26.26 | hrw | re |
14:26.41 | koen | hrw: 3.6.x will branch from .dev again? |
14:27.03 | hrw | koen: there will be no 3.6.x rather |
14:27.41 | hrw | koen: I want to keep 3.5.4.x line until angstrom will takeover 2.6 powered zaurii |
14:29.03 | hrw | and drop each of them |
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14:41.41 | mikearthur | XorA: what was the PDA you had round here the other day? |
14:47.06 | XorA | mikearthur: c7x0 |
14:49.45 | hrw | finally glibc built all locales.. |
14:50.26 | koen | http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/kdrive-crashes-resolved |
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14:59.07 | chouimat | morning |
15:03.21 | koen | hey chouimat |
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15:15.36 | hrw | kergoth: feeds.openzaurus.org reminder.. |
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15:25.57 | koen | bleh |
15:26.06 | koen | gnome-vfs-dbus doesn't work with a recent dbus |
15:26.44 | XorA | koen: even the svn one? |
15:27.02 | koen | yesterdays svn bombs out |
15:27.06 | mikearthur | how can I make bitbake output to the console, rather than a long file? |
15:27.10 | koen | gconf-dbus was fixes a while ago |
15:27.16 | koen | mikearthur: -D -D -D |
15:28.37 | mikearthur | koen: cheers |
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15:34.06 | hrw | koen: ever thought about moving from modules-initscripts (modutils-cross) to module-init-tools initscript? one thing less to build for 2.6 powered stuff |
15:34.28 | Genesis | a+ |
15:34.41 | koen | hrw: yes, but I haven't found the time to do it |
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15:35.49 | summatusmentis | all the packages for the Z are cross-compiled right? There's no little compile farm of Zaurii anywhere? |
15:36.05 | koen | summatusmentis: not that we know off |
15:36.16 | mikearthur | koen: do you have an /etc/passwd in your base-passwd ipkg? |
15:36.23 | summatusmentis | so how does one set up the cross-compilation envrionment? |
15:36.25 | koen | mikearthur: nope |
15:36.39 | hrw | http://www.hrw.one.pl/2006/08/03/private-support-emails/ |
15:36.52 | hrw | too popular subject recently ;) |
15:36.53 | koen | summatusmentis: http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted |
15:37.08 | mikearthur | koen: where does it come from then, I'm tearing my hair out :( |
15:37.38 | summatusmentis | koen, thanks |
15:37.42 | koen | mikearthur: look that the postinst |
15:37.56 | koen | that copies it from /usr/share to /etc |
15:38.43 | mikearthur | the post install doesn't seem to get run |
15:38.57 | koen | it does install the package? |
15:39.42 | mikearthur | doesn't seem to |
15:40.33 | koen | http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/20060803/tosa/ <- built this afternoon |
15:41.56 | hrw | koen: build gpe or opie one so I can test them |
15:42.10 | koen | hrw: building gpe right now |
15:42.13 | hrw | oka |
15:42.16 | JustinP | binary locale generation is turned ff by default now....? |
15:42.18 | koen | I'll leave the opie mess to mickey|bbl |
15:42.40 | hrw | JustinP: depends - OZ in .oz354x has it on |
15:43.25 | koen | JustinP: which package has /usr/bin/enlightenment? |
15:43.42 | koen | (e-wm hasn't, I checked) |
15:44.48 | mikearthur | koen: what package should run the postinst? gpe-image, right? The problem is, it seems to be not running the post install before running zap_root_passwd, which relies on there being a /etc/passwd |
15:45.49 | koen | mikearthur: ipkg runs the postinst after it installs it |
15:45.57 | JustinP | koen: .dev....oh well I guess, no problems for me |
15:45.59 | koen | mikearthur: and your problem is that ipkg does *not* install it |
15:46.16 | JustinP | koen: ummm....e-wm is the wm. It should have e. It certainly does in oz354x.... |
15:46.22 | mikearthur | koen: what calls ipkg to install it, the gpe-image? |
15:46.59 | koen | JustinP: sounds like you need to fix it in .dev |
15:47.09 | koen | mikearthur: do_rootfs_ipk iirc |
15:48.09 | koen | JustinP: no e in http://angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/feed/base/e-wm_0.16.999.027-r3_armv5te.ipk |
15:48.12 | JustinP | koen: damn it! chkhinge26 is just the same as switchevd. It waits for the hinge button and runs a command. It's not chkhinge ta all |
15:48.29 | JustinP | koen: what did the package output show? |
15:49.44 | JustinP | koen: I'll try to test e in .dev. I haven't build an image in .dev for a while, it always had some build problem or another |
15:49.47 | koen | JustinP: building it right now |
15:50.22 | JustinP | koen: tetsing emacs right now, though, so it will be a bit |
15:50.41 | JustinP | koen: let me know what your output shows and I'll see if I can fix it |
15:50.48 | hrw | http://www.google.com/search?q=2.6+kernel+tosa ;D |
15:51.34 | hrw | cu |
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16:02.10 | koen | later all |
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16:14.18 | poushag | im still trying to get a successful build of a first useful package using .dev - has anyone gotten the latest busybox to build and work? |
16:17.48 | woglinde | lol |
16:17.50 | woglinde | http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS2347855073.html |
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16:39.39 | mr_nice_slacker | hi all |
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16:57.00 | sirfred | What could be the reason that forces me to unplug/plug my husky to recover usb network after a suspend/resume cycle? |
16:57.41 | sirfred | I'm not able to tell who's guilty, my laptop or my husky. |
16:59.51 | sirfred | The problem is that I'm making a lot of tests over ssh, and must suspend/resume after any test. I'm a little afraid about the connector health with this plug/unplug rate. |
17:01.30 | cinix | You could try and rmmod the usb net module on either side and see if that works like unpluggin/pluggin |
17:02.41 | hvontres|poodle | sirfred: you could always umplug the laptop end of things to save wear on the Z's connector :) |
17:03.03 | hvontres|poodle | also, you could try an ifdown/ifup cycle on the usb interface. |
17:03.29 | sirfred | hvontres|poodle: Yes, that's what I'm doing lately, but since it's located in the back side of the laptop,... |
17:03.43 | sirfred | hvontres|poodle: I tried that last thing, without luck. |
17:03.48 | hvontres|poodle | Which driver are you using? |
17:03.50 | sirfred | cinix: I'm going to try that. Thanks. |
17:03.59 | sirfred | hvontres|poodle: The husky module? |
17:04.13 | hvontres|poodle | usbnet or g-ether? |
17:04.19 | sirfred | hvontres|poodle: g_ether |
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17:04.50 | tkp | hey... I'm having a bit of trouble with the /var created by oe |
17:04.58 | tkp | it should be a tmpfs right? |
17:05.08 | tkp | but it does't appear to be |
17:06.32 | sirfred | hvontres|poodle: I didn't know about that 'usbnet'. But I tried modprobing it and is not creating a 'usb0' interface or something so. Isn't that the expected behaviour? |
17:07.23 | cinix | If you weren't using usbnet I could have been mistaken about it being using for your network over usb |
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17:07.42 | sirfred | Well, I see it's used at the host side. |
17:08.36 | sirfred | Perhaps it's only valid from a USB Host perpective. |
17:11.31 | Kerwood | sirfred: Have you already read http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=18471&hl=ohci-apm-hack&st=90 |
17:11.32 | Kerwood | specifically the ohci unload script? |
17:11.43 | sirfred | I've tried in both sides, host(remove cdc-subset, usbnet), husky(remove g_ether), without luck. |
17:11.50 | sirfred | Kerwood: Let me see... |
17:13.21 | Kerwood | sirfred: also, I think this discussion might belong in #openzaurus... |
17:17.42 | sirfred | Kerwood: Thanks for your help, anyway. |
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17:31.31 | mickeyl | yo zecke |
17:34.33 | zecke | hey |
17:34.46 | zecke | mickeyl: did you see my lnk from yesterday? |
17:36.09 | mickeyl | zecke: the TT corporate stuff? |
17:36.55 | zecke | yes |
17:37.01 | mickeyl | zecke: yeah. that's kind of funny. *cough* |
17:37.21 | zecke | mickeyl: it is true for the development of Qt :} |
17:37.25 | mickeyl | absolutely |
17:37.36 | zecke | mickeyl: so this page is just outdated |
17:41.06 | zecke | mickeyl: how are you progressing? |
17:42.35 | mickeyl | zecke: fairly well. had an important meeting with my advisor on monday. he read the release candidate and although finding lots of details he wants me to change, there's nothing substantial left. if all goes well, I'll submit in the first week of September. |
17:43.30 | zecke | yeah |
17:43.50 | zecke | :) |
17:44.13 | zecke | mickeyl: and then you can reimplement qtopia :) |
17:44.16 | mickeyl | no kidding. i was very reliefed after that meeting. |
17:44.41 | mickeyl | yeah right :D |
17:45.33 | sirfred | What's the license state of qtopia? Isn't TT going to GPL it? |
17:46.05 | zecke | sirfred: hehe |
17:46.07 | mickeyl | yes |
17:46.08 | mickeyl | "soon" |
17:46.10 | mickeyl | *cough* |
17:46.23 | zecke | like M$ is releasing old dos versions... |
17:46.30 | sirfred | Hm. |
17:46.36 | sirfred | It's not going to happen. |
17:46.53 | mickeyl | even if it will... it'll be pretty obsolete then. the world is moving on |
17:47.32 | zecke | currently the best thing is: avoid fragmentation and use gtk+ |
17:48.00 | sirfred | Left opie? |
17:48.32 | zecke | oh well, I don't think Qt2 is the future :) |
17:49.02 | zecke | sirfred: and Opie is compatible to Qtopia by social contract |
17:49.54 | zecke | Mobile Linux == Gtk+ is currently the best equation |
17:50.08 | sirfred | zecke: I don't have any problem with gtk+. The only needed thing is a good set of PIM applications, well integrated, able to sync with a desktop. |
17:50.36 | zecke | sirfred: the evolution stuff o-hand is doing looks interesting |
17:51.06 | sirfred | zecke: Where can I find any screenshot or something? |
17:51.32 | sirfred | mickeyl: Forget about the accel patches I sent you. |
17:52.04 | sirfred | mickeyl: Interaction with the patched w100 framebuffer driver is a problem. |
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17:52.45 | zecke | sirfred: http://chrislord.net/ |
17:54.01 | sirfred | zecke: But isn't evolution a first grade memory eater. Is it able to run confortably on a zaurus? |
17:54.02 | zecke | sirfred: the only thing that makes me sad is. I really love Qt and TT for creating Qt |
17:54.28 | zecke | sirfred: well, what of evolution is the 'bitch' |
17:54.45 | zecke | sirfred: e.g. look at tinymail |
17:55.10 | zecke | sirfred: I do not know the memory footprint of the current stuff, but I think it will be reasonable |
17:55.24 | zecke | sirfred: as only evolution data server is used |
17:55.31 | zecke | sirfred: and a custom gui is implemented |
17:55.38 | mickeyl | sirfred: bummer. what can we do ? |
17:55.43 | sirfred | The screenshots are great. |
17:56.21 | zecke | sirfred: I think doing a poky build will give you a matchbox image containing dates+contact |
17:57.08 | sirfred | mickeyl: Well, the problem is that the fb driver doesn't care about setting some registers before trying to perform a screen copy. |
17:57.33 | sirfred | mickeyl: So, since the qte accel driver is changing those registers, after running opie, fb scroll gets broken. |
17:57.48 | zecke | Evolution, Sync, Telepathy, GStreamer a lot of fun stuff is happening in the G world |
17:58.23 | sirfred | zecke: drive us to that promised world |
17:58.52 | sirfred | mickeyl: I'm working in a new driver, anyway. Just a reference library not related with opie or x. |
17:59.04 | mickeyl | ok, cool |
17:59.44 | sirfred | mickeyl: The goal is to implement everything without copying the libaticore, just using the knowledge gained from the reverse engineering. |
17:59.52 | sirfred | It also doesn't need the microcode. |
18:00.47 | sirfred | mickeyl: At this stage, all the acceleration provided by the qte driver, is available in this new library, without any need to link aticore. |
18:06.19 | CIA-9 | 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * rb3e86370... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): emacs: Add dated CVS emacs version, make default emacs not use x11, add emacs-x11 |
18:16.12 | ins0mniaque | Hi! I bitbaked gpe-image for spitz, and everything went fine, but upon booting the image, I get "INIT: cannot execute "/sbin/getty"" looping until a "INIT: Id "1" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes"... What could I have done wrong (maybe everything ;)) ? |
18:16.54 | zecke | ins0mniaque: which branch? |
18:17.01 | ins0mniaque | openzaurus-unstable |
18:18.03 | ins0mniaque | org.openembedded.dev |
18:19.11 | zecke | it might not be your fault :} |
18:19.23 | zecke | I don't know if someone tried images lately :} |
18:20.11 | ins0mniaque | I would gladly help find the problem, but since I cannot boot, I have no idea where to start looking... |
18:21.03 | JustinP | ins0mniaque: why not use oz354x? |
18:21.07 | zecke | ins0mniaque: you could inspect the rootfs |
18:21.24 | zecke | ins0mniaque: you have a rootfs copy on your host |
18:21.52 | ins0mniaque | JustinP: because I wanted to try :P |
18:22.04 | ins0mniaque | zecke: yes I have a copy |
18:23.59 | zecke | ins0mniaque: check if you have /sbin/getty |
18:24.27 | ins0mniaque | zecke: but I'm having trouble mounting the image |
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18:27.38 | ins0mniaque | zecke: I have to work now, but thank you with your help, will try to mount it and check this out. |
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18:43.05 | JustinP | ins0mniaque|work: try untarring the .tar.bz2 instead |
18:44.23 | JustinP | wow....I'm behind on e17 updates |
18:44.36 | JustinP | 27 => 32 |
18:54.34 | mr_nice_slacker | woglinde: may I ask you something about the .config you gave me? |
18:58.00 | woglinde | mr_nice yes |
18:58.06 | woglinde | if I remember |
18:58.53 | mr_nice_slacker | ist it the one which you used to compile the Kernel image you gave me? |
18:59.05 | woglinde | mr_nice yes |
18:59.10 | woglinde | think so |
18:59.22 | mr_nice_slacker | :/ |
19:01.05 | woglinde | why? |
19:01.11 | woglinde | are there differences? |
19:01.18 | mr_nice_slacker | I have some trouble to compile the kernel. with the simpad_defconfig everything compiles well but the image is to big and unusable with the one you gave me I run into a error on LD .tmp_vmlinux1 |
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19:01.29 | woglinde | hum |
19:01.35 | woglinde | hm oh |
19:01.45 | woglinde | but you have zeckes tree? |
19:02.16 | mr_nice_slacker | yes - I also checked with vanilla - exactly the same result |
19:02.27 | woglinde | hum |
19:02.30 | woglinde | which gcc? |
19:02.39 | mr_nice_slacker | 4.1.1 |
19:02.46 | mr_nice_slacker | arm-elf |
19:02.55 | woglinde | hm I only used gcc 4.0 I guess |
19:03.32 | mr_nice_slacker | i will try with 4.0 |
19:04.16 | mr_nice_slacker | I have solved my chicken/egg problem with the help of some nice elfs ;) |
19:05.14 | mr_nice_slacker | thx |
19:05.38 | x29a | mr_nice_slacker: what a treat |
19:05.44 | x29a | finding YOU here! |
19:06.13 | mr_nice_slacker | hi x29a |
19:06.14 | x29a | mr_nice_slacker: i bricked my simpad |
19:06.16 | x29a | big bummer! |
19:06.18 | mr_nice_slacker | oh no! |
19:06.22 | x29a | well, actually it did it itself |
19:06.30 | mr_nice_slacker | jtag it? |
19:06.32 | x29a | performed a proper shutdown at work |
19:06.53 | x29a | wanted to boot back up, serial just brings a couple of chars and numbers and than a lot of "s" |
19:07.09 | mr_nice_slacker | try to change your speed |
19:07.20 | mr_nice_slacker | which loader do you have? |
19:07.22 | x29a | well, i guess i have to, but i always wanted to get around jtag, since i totally bricked my jornada568 before already |
19:07.25 | x29a | hh |
19:07.28 | x29a | with opie |
19:07.33 | x29a | if have 115k |
19:08.01 | x29a | but i dont get why it should get corrupt from one second to the other |
19:08.35 | mr_nice_slacker | that chars and nubers thing is normaly a sign of the wrong speed |
19:09.57 | x29a | no the chars an numbers are fine (remember the 7char long stuff which comes at the very beginning of bootup?) |
19:10.03 | x29a | where u normally press escape or what |
19:10.09 | x29a | like the first 20ms of bootup |
19:10.16 | x29a | but after that, only ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss |
19:10.22 | x29a | literally |
19:10.35 | mr_nice_slacker | hm |
19:10.58 | mr_nice_slacker | well i have no guess about that |
19:11.15 | mr_nice_slacker | but jtag nerver hurts ;) |
19:11.32 | x29a | yes |
19:11.38 | x29a | it actually did hurt |
19:11.42 | x29a | still hurting |
19:11.44 | x29a | poor jornada |
19:12.00 | mr_nice_slacker | did you kill it by jtaging it? |
19:12.24 | x29a | by soldering to the jtagpins a couple went off the board |
19:12.28 | x29a | impossible to fix |
19:12.45 | x29a | chicken tried to find some different contancs, without luck |
19:14.03 | mr_nice_slacker | the simpad pins are not that hard to solder. i had only a bit fear about that hot soldering hints from walter but with luck it went all good for me |
19:15.10 | x29a | i guess i dont have luck |
19:15.24 | x29a | so u put in contacts for later use? |
19:15.32 | x29a | or soldered the wires directly to the board? |
19:15.40 | mr_nice_slacker | contacts |
19:15.50 | mr_nice_slacker | but wires are also possible |
19:16.19 | mr_nice_slacker | but with contacts you are without fear on flashing loader stuff - hehe |
19:17.07 | mr_nice_slacker | you use debian? |
19:17.44 | zecke | hmm I should aks for donations again :} |
19:19.23 | mr_nice_slacker | zecke: if i get enought money with ebay i will think about it ;) - if i will ever get some donations over opensimpad.org i will also remind you |
19:19.55 | x29a | mr_nice_slacker: yeah, debian |
19:20.31 | x29a | btw i found the "cut off battery"-button |
19:20.33 | x29a | nice! |
19:20.43 | mr_nice_slacker | could you please check if the debian jtag tools (0.5 i think) do the work for simpad flashing? |
19:20.56 | mr_nice_slacker | did it solve the problem? |
19:21.00 | x29a | no |
19:21.06 | x29a | but it turns off the display |
19:21.11 | x29a | since the simpad itself wont |
19:21.27 | x29a | mr_nice_slacker: maybe i get around jtagging this weekend |
19:21.28 | mr_nice_slacker | I have read about that it will help on "white displays" |
19:21.43 | x29a | if so, ill check out different software and write on osim |
19:21.51 | x29a | yeah it does |
19:21.54 | mr_nice_slacker | else you can check the slackware packages i have created |
19:22.09 | x29a | for jtagging? |
19:22.17 | mr_nice_slacker | yes |
19:22.26 | x29a | ill get into stuff this we, maybe also windows |
19:22.33 | x29a | always good to try different stuff |
19:22.35 | poushag | hi folks |
19:22.48 | x29a | at least i have a parallel-plug already *grin* |
19:22.49 | mr_nice_slacker | jtag tools 0.4 - the ones walter recommanded |
19:23.15 | mr_nice_slacker | did you solder the resistors on jtag or on subd side? |
19:23.17 | poushag | sirfred have you tried kdepimpi fpr pim (on opie)? i find it very useful |
19:23.30 | poushag | s/fpr/for/ |
19:24.06 | x29a | mr_nice_slacker: with the jornadacable you mean?parallelportside |
19:24.25 | poushag | zecke, you were asking about apple migration tool a while back - i used it a couple months ago and it was a breeze |
19:24.39 | zecke | poushag: my macbook crashed |
19:24.45 | zecke | poushag: I went back to use rsync |
19:24.51 | x29a | mr_nice_slacker: what about openwince-jtag? |
19:25.03 | mr_nice_slacker | x29a: that are the jtag-tools |
19:25.35 | x29a | its in apt |
19:26.13 | mr_nice_slacker | x29a: yes version 0.5 or so? |
19:26.16 | poushag | what happened zecke? ive always been able to reboot mac the few times it had a kernel burp |
19:26.33 | zecke | poushag: well, it rebooted in the middle of the copying |
19:26.36 | mr_nice_slacker | x29a: would be nice if someone would test that version |
19:26.48 | zecke | poushag: and as I thought it would reboot again, I decided not to bother |
19:26.57 | x29a | mr_nice_slacker: dunno which version. is it better to build the tools myself? |
19:27.27 | x29a | mr_nice_slacker: yeah, can do....pretty much nothin can f*ck up jtag support or? |
19:27.44 | mr_nice_slacker | x29a: only a wrong cable |
19:27.55 | x29a | wah |
19:27.56 | mr_nice_slacker | x29a: or a really destroyed simpad |
19:28.00 | x29a | hehe |
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19:28.34 | poushag | zecke, sounds odd - but oh well - sounds like youve moved past it - i want to get an intel mac but so far no $ for it - when i do, a lot of my old apps wont make the transition (being ppc) |
19:29.44 | zecke | poushag: well rosetta should do just fine |
19:30.11 | x29a | mr_nice_slacker: i planned on going to university this fall |
19:30.21 | x29a | mr_nice_slacker: just now my simpad stops working |
19:30.35 | x29a | i hate it when that happens |
19:31.00 | poushag | zecke, yeah i know about rosetta - but im not planning to use it for the same reason i never used classic - just not worth the trouble - will find new apps instead |
19:31.13 | mr_nice_slacker | x29a: hopefully you bring it back to life so there is someone which fills the wiki ;) |
19:31.38 | x29a | yeah, since my second one is goin off to ebay |
19:31.39 | zecke | poushag: oh well |
19:31.49 | zecke | poushag: rosetta is like binfmt on linux |
19:32.58 | poushag | poushag is still unhappy that theres no decent ppc emulator for macosx ppc macs |
19:33.21 | mr_nice_slacker | x29a: i had only good experiences with jtag. but it is really strange that it gave up his service so suddenly. |
19:33.22 | zecke | poushag: http://rafb.net/paste/results/nomo2w49.html |
19:33.53 | x29a | mr_nice_slacker: yeah, i dont get it either |
19:34.01 | x29a | just right out of the middle of the nowhere |
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19:35.14 | mr_nice_slacker | x29a: a advantage of jtag is that you can check some parts of your hardware with it. unfortunate not that much things are integrated in jtag tools but it is verry usefull. |
19:35.42 | x29a | i dont wonna check i want it to work and develope software |
19:35.44 | x29a | honestly |
19:35.52 | x29a | but as said, ill get into it this we |
19:36.53 | mr_nice_slacker | x29a: yes do so |
19:37.11 | x29a | shit, i cant believe it |
19:37.31 | x29a | i was so happy with rc3, and the sl4 in total, i need a productivity system |
19:37.37 | x29a | BÄNG |
19:39.12 | mr_nice_slacker | x29a: i found some nice chips - Philips created a cheap serial bluetooth and serial wlan module - they cooperate so you need only a few gpios and you will have wlan and bluetooth over serial ;) |
19:39.40 | mr_nice_slacker | x29a: bluetoot about 9 Euro wlan about 20 Euro |
19:39.50 | x29a | wow great |
19:40.01 | x29a | pm me the links on icq or oesf or so |
19:40.19 | x29a | id be with you building bt/wlan support right into there (while im at it) |
19:41.50 | mr_nice_slacker | x29a: would be cool to bring out a module with which you can easily replace the dect one |
19:42.04 | mr_nice_slacker | x29a: we could sell it on ebay |
19:42.07 | x29a | you have a slc? |
19:42.14 | x29a | mr_nice_slacker: function > money |
19:42.20 | x29a | i dont do stuff for money, but for usage |
19:42.28 | x29a | but indeed, if we make a good concept |
19:42.30 | mr_nice_slacker | x29a: no sl4 but i have a dect module from a t-sinus pad |
19:42.40 | x29a | is it any good? |
19:43.09 | mr_nice_slacker | x29a: well i don't use it ;) |
19:43.33 | mr_nice_slacker | x29a: i even don't know it there are drivers for it |
19:44.20 | x29a | as with smartcard |
19:44.32 | x29a | my dream would be a working bt-keyboard under familiar |
19:44.39 | x29a | therefore im really into modding |
19:44.44 | mr_nice_slacker | x29a: well.. smartcard would be verry nice |
19:44.52 | x29a | indeed |
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19:45.57 | mr_nice_slacker | x29a: on pollin.de you can grabb you a cheap pcmcia and serial to bluetooth converter for about 20 Euro - but it isn't the same i think |
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19:46.16 | x29a | well im off to bed, work tomorrow,contact me on further infos |
19:46.20 | x29a | mr_nice_slacker: what? |
19:46.23 | x29a | serial to bt? |
19:46.27 | mr_nice_slacker | x29a: jepp |
19:46.51 | mr_nice_slacker | x29a: serial and parport to bluetooth + pcmica bluetooth card |
19:47.38 | mr_nice_slacker | x29a: the card i had and it worked out of the box - now a friend of mine have it. |
19:47.39 | x29a | i dont get it, too tired |
19:47.49 | mr_nice_slacker | x29a: see you |
19:47.55 | x29a | i have a pcmcia to cf adapter |
19:48.00 | x29a | and a belkin cf bt |
19:48.10 | x29a | so in principal id have bt support |
19:48.17 | mr_nice_slacker | x29a: ah ok |
19:48.34 | mr_nice_slacker | x29a: the bluetooth keboards are really expansive I think |
19:48.41 | x29a | but i think its lackin drivers and configuration (and i dunno if HMI devices such as the keyboard are detected properly) |
19:48.50 | x29a | i dont even know if HMI is the right word |
19:49.00 | x29a | mr_nice_slacker: i already have one, thats the thing |
19:49.17 | mr_nice_slacker | x29a: you lucky guy |
19:49.24 | x29a | indeed |
19:50.20 | x29a | nice part of hardware, shitty support |
19:50.29 | mr_nice_slacker | x29a: the bluetooth card shulb be create a serial port which you can use with kbdd ? i don't really know. But i remember to read something like that |
19:50.48 | x29a | http://freedominput.com/style/freedom-mini.htm |
19:50.51 | x29a | thats my buddy |
19:51.40 | x29a | mr_nice_slacker: k, ill get into that, so you provide me with further module-infos (oesf pm would be awesome),ill check out jtag this we, and if i have a working sl4 again the bluetoothkeyb |
19:51.52 | x29a | but now, bed |
19:52.04 | mr_nice_slacker | x29a: yes - see you |
19:52.13 | x29a | bye |
19:52.31 | poushag | zecke, mr_nice, etc: im quite new at this oe stuff - i want to get the latest busybox built from .dev to use on my collie - what do i have to change in config to build it? |
19:55.41 | mr_nice_slacker | poushag: sorry - i am only a user and don't know that much about oe :/ |
19:56.02 | zecke | poushag: bitbake busybox |
19:57.16 | poushag | zecke, last i looked busybox ver was only 1.0 - is 1.2 in there now? |
19:57.33 | poushag | i havenet updated in a few days |
19:57.42 | poushag | *haven't |
19:57.55 | zecke | poushag: I remember that koen has tossed the word busybox1.2 recently |
19:58.44 | poushag | i thought i saw that too, zecke - thats why im asking now - will upate and take a look at 'bitbake -s' |
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20:18.46 | sirfred | zecke: I was looking a little at these Dates, Contact and rest of stuff at openhand, it looks really promising. |
20:20.35 | zecke | sirfred: yes. And together with a progressing OpenSync.org |
20:20.41 | sirfred | zecke: I've also seen that there are bb files for dates and contacts at oe. |
20:20.51 | zecke | sirfred: we might have decent PIM with the possibility of Exchange support... |
20:21.18 | zecke | Cwiiis: is the dates/contacts in poky more recent than the one in OE? |
20:23.21 | sirfred | What's the best way to try it on my c760? Install an gpe-image, or perhaps a bootstrap one? |
20:26.42 | zecke | sirfred: try a poky build |
20:26.55 | sirfred | zecke: What's that, another distro? |
20:26.57 | zecke | sirfred: but well, use OE later then |
20:27.10 | zecke | ~poky |
20:27.12 | ibot | [poky] http://projects.o-hand.com/poky, or a subset of OpenEmbedded, created by o-hand.com to testdrive some of their technology |
20:27.23 | sirfred | Let's see... |
20:30.17 | sirfred | zecke: I'm low of harddisk space. Aren't there any prebuilt images? |
20:30.43 | sirfred | bbl |
20:38.37 | zecke | sirfred: oh well... |
20:38.43 | zecke | sirfred: we are all short of disk space |
20:38.52 | hrw | hi |
20:38.55 | zecke | hrw: hey! |
20:39.05 | hrw | disk space? I do not know such sentence even |
20:39.38 | hrw | I want stable devbox |
20:40.34 | hrw | current research result is ~300-400EUR for it |
20:43.56 | poushag | hi hrw, saw you cursing kdepim a while back - have you made any progress with it at all? and in particular the email portion? |
20:45.32 | hrw | poushag: nope |
20:46.05 | poushag | hrw, whats the main problem with kdepim? |
20:46.31 | hrw | poushag: 1. shitty imap support in kmail |
20:46.49 | hrw | 2. lack of daemon for accesing PIM data |
20:47.05 | zecke | hrw: wow, now I'm the only one without an offer from google |
20:47.12 | hrw | 1 == sync ALL folders each time or manually check folders... |
20:47.19 | Crofton | hrw, what did they offer? |
20:47.26 | hrw | 2 == run kmail just to get kopete working |
20:47.38 | hrw | Crofton: sysadmin or senior software engineer |
20:47.43 | Crofton | cool |
20:47.46 | zecke | or? |
20:48.03 | zecke | Crofton: we must suck |
20:48.13 | hrw | Senior Software Engineer, Google.com |
20:48.20 | hrw | Unix System & Applications Administrator, Google.com |
20:48.21 | Crofton | of course, I can't reconfigure my xserver from the command line at the momemtn |
20:50.02 | poushag | hrw, i wasnt aware that kdepim required a daemon - are we talking daemon for Z or for workstation sync? |
20:50.34 | hrw | poushag: I use 'imap over kmail' method to access my pim data on few machines |
20:50.57 | hrw | poushag: kopete use kaddressbook data so it use 'imap over kmail' so it run kmail.... |
20:50.57 | Cwiiis | zecke: We might be using a more recent SRCDATE, but I don't think the packaging has changed |
20:51.31 | hrw | poushag: so I cannot have session stored with kontact and kopete because kopete start first and run kmail... which I must quit to get it inside of kontact |
20:51.51 | hrw | poushag: not to mention fact that korganizer with 4 icals spend most of time hung |
20:51.57 | poushag | hrw, ok - im using webdav to server ics files (in ical format) - planning to try that with kopi - any experience with it? |
20:52.49 | poushag | that is with kopi as client that can upload changes to server |
20:53.10 | hrw | poushag: I lack webdav |
20:54.22 | poushag | it sounds like you have mac-osx - its very easy to set up - i did it following an article online |
20:54.37 | hrw | poushag: I use debian |
20:54.59 | poushag | oh sry - must be koen i was thinking of re osx |
20:55.24 | poushag | well i think you just need the module and tweak the apache config file a bit |
20:55.47 | hrw | CoreDump|afk, RP: can someone of you look at poodle kernel patches and decide which one are correct? (.dev != .oz354x) |
20:56.02 | hrw | poushag: I do not have control over apache on this hosting |
20:56.24 | hrw | poushag: I saw php implementations of minimal webdav support anyway |
20:57.58 | woglinde | hrw pheee php |
20:59.07 | poushag | hrw, it sounds like kdepim would stillbe useful to me - i only plan to send outgoing email with it - does it actually build ok? |
20:59.37 | poushag | because i havent been able to get it to finish compiling |
20:59.46 | hrw | poushag: I complain about kdepim on desktop not from OE (as OE does not have kde at all) |
21:00.58 | poushag | hrw, there is a kdepimpi package in oe - i thought you were working on that one - too bad - i need it for sending email from my Z with smtp password auth |
21:01.19 | hrw | poushag: kdepimpi/OE does not contain mail client |
21:02.52 | poushag | as i understand it, hrw, the mail client part was disabled - but since nobody is fixing libetpan i thought i could edit the bb file or something to build ompi (aka kmail) - can you tell me anything to help? |
21:03.16 | hrw | ompi is not based on kmail |
21:03.16 | JustinP | zecke, Crofton: I guess I suck too then |
21:03.26 | hrw | ompi is ugly hacked opiemail |
21:04.10 | poushag | but ompi works for sending email with smtp password auth - so its a good hack for my purposes - and my only choice apparently right now |
21:04.52 | hrw | poushag: you can also extract proper part and implement it in opie-mail |
21:05.17 | hrw | btw - I will be happy if someone will takeover kdepimpi maintaince |
21:05.20 | poushag | hrw, please can you help guide me to do that? i will be happy to do so if i know what to do.... |
21:05.41 | zecke | poushag: if zautrix obeyed the GPL |
21:05.51 | zecke | poushag: he marked the bits he changed with purpose and date |
21:06.45 | zecke | poushag: just search for them, and forward port them |
21:06.45 | hrw | poushag: zautrix hacked: libetpan, libmailwrapper, opie-mail (when it comes to ompi only) |
21:06.45 | hrw | ~emulate zautrix |
21:06.47 | ibot | this is exactly what the GPL is about. grab the stuff and run away |
21:07.01 | zecke | that is not what the GPL is about! |
21:07.19 | zecke | his behaviour is unethical, something rms didn't have in mind when creating the GPL |
21:07.59 | zecke | I think my talk at aKademy will be empty |
21:08.05 | zecke | I will bitch about KDAB anyway :} |
21:08.22 | poushag | hahah - zecke, it sounds so easy when you say that - but at my stage of newness you might as well be posting in chinese - if one of you can spend some time to get me started i can carry on but its the steep learning curve in the beginning that i have to get over |
21:09.31 | poushag | it sounds like zautrix is not well thought of around here - should i bother looking at his source? or is it already known to be too cryptic? |
21:10.08 | raduga | hrm. |
21:10.31 | zecke | poushag: take a look, it can't hurt |
21:10.49 | raduga | to build with iwmmx optimization, what -march, -mcpu, -mtune should I be using? |
21:11.10 | hrw | raduga: include tune-iwmmxt.conf in machine config |
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21:11.21 | hrw | hi cliff |
21:11.50 | zecke | poushag: zautrix is weird. To add one line. He invents a new name, runs sed -i s/oldname/newname/ messes with the .pro file and releases his new version |
21:12.02 | zecke | poushag: the time the sed takes, could have been used to send a patch :} |
21:13.34 | raduga | ok. arch,cpu,tune = iwmmxt |
21:13.36 | raduga | (thanks) :) |
21:13.43 | hrw | poushag: I suggest fetching kdepimpi from cvs, then go back to moment when he forked opie-mail and start reviewing changes one by one |
21:14.26 | hrw | ugly work |
21:14.48 | hrw | speaking about opie-mail... it need OResource love... |
21:15.23 | zecke | hrw: it is unbelievable how much work Opie needs |
21:15.32 | zecke | hrw: I wish we would be six active devels :( |
21:15.39 | hrw | zecke: heh |
21:15.45 | poushag | zecke, hrw, i will try to do as you say - pls just promise me some help to get throught the rough patches |
21:15.56 | zecke | poushag: sure |
21:16.11 | zecke | Free Support in #OE for everyone :) |
21:16.19 | woglinde | hm |
21:16.23 | woglinde | sometimes a beer |
21:16.25 | woglinde | lol |
21:16.34 | poushag | if i had to go it alone, there would be no way ('no way jose' as we like to say) |
21:16.39 | poushag | thx :) |
21:17.09 | zecke | woglinde: I always wanted to use the postcard license |
21:17.40 | zecke | woglinde: I think I need to get a postcard licensed piece of software on the OLPC device |
21:18.06 | hrw | woglinde: I like idea of being paid for oe work |
21:19.12 | woglinde | zecke should germany aplly for olpc? |
21:19.55 | hrw | woglinde: sure - you are poor country |
21:19.57 | zecke | woglinde: I think the OLPC is finished within a year and by then our government will have turned us into a development country |
21:20.33 | zecke | woglinde: but to make the OLPC attractive for our youth one must be able to install ringtones |
21:21.08 | hrw | zecke: no need for changable cases? |
21:21.35 | cbrake_ | hrw: Hi Marcin |
21:21.38 | zecke | hrw: good thinking |
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21:22.47 | cyrilRomain | hi guys |
21:22.53 | hrw | someone has cfxga card? |
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21:28.17 | florian | Hi |
21:28.21 | florian | <PROTECTED> |
21:28.21 | florian | | install: cannot run strip: No such file or directory |
21:28.59 | florian | am i the only one who gets this? |
21:32.51 | hrw | zecke: thats not OResource... icons are 14x14 only |
21:33.49 | zecke | anyway with enough bandwidth+disk to run some of the bittests? |
21:34.08 | JustinP | florian: no, I get that too |
21:34.18 | hrw | zecke: my home machine is not stable enough for it ;( |
21:34.22 | JustinP | florian: I have just been going into the Makefiles and rmeoving the -s from the install calls |
21:34.35 | zecke | hrw: how much do you need to for a new machine? |
21:35.02 | zecke | hrw: I could donate some money and we could ask for some more for you? |
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21:36.10 | hrw | zecke: I would rather prefer to finally find what cause those unstability |
21:37.07 | hrw | zecke: 40°C inside of computer case worries me - plan to buy 120mm fan tomorrow to change it |
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21:39.56 | florian | JustinP: strange thing... |
21:40.19 | JustinP | florian: I know |
21:43.22 | mr_nice_slacker | Is there a public oe build server? |
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21:47.34 | hrw | ~nslookup forum.ocworkbench.com |
21:48.23 | JustinP | mr_nice_slacker: .....you mean a server people could log into at will and build stuff on? no |
21:48.41 | JustinP | mr_nice_slacker: it would be a zoo...a madhouse....simply not feasable |
21:49.08 | florian | JustinP: editing the .mak included by the Makefiles does the trick, just remove all these parameters to strip. |
21:49.43 | JustinP | florian: perhaps a patch should be pushed for qemu |
21:49.53 | mr_nice_slacker | JustinP: I thought more about a webinterface - but yes something like that. |
21:50.18 | florian | JustinP: in theory yes, but i wonder why this worked before.. |
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21:51.14 | hrw | cu all |
21:51.26 | florian | hrw|gone: cu |
21:51.34 | hrw|gone | sleep well or have a nice day |
21:52.17 | furlongm | how would i go about disabling java? is there an equivalent of gentoo USE flags? |
21:52.41 | furlongm | been poking around but can't seem to find it.. :( |
21:52.52 | zecke | furlongm: no equivalent yet |
21:52.56 | zecke | nite guys |
21:58.36 | furlongm | hmmm, so how to disable java then? my gcc-cross build fails building java |
21:58.42 | furlongm | which i don't need anyway |
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22:02.41 | cyrilRomain | furlongm: you could use EXTRA_OECONF += " --disable-java " (or something like that) in the .bb file you want to remove java |
22:04.07 | furlongm | ah ok, so whatever the flag to configure is that i need |
22:04.32 | cyrilRomain | yep |
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22:04.59 | furlongm | and how do you use a higher version of a given package? |
22:05.12 | furlongm | ie higher than what is currently the stable version |
22:06.03 | cyrilRomain | either the version exist in the tree and in this case, you should set the PREFERRED_VERSION in your distro conf file |
22:06.34 | cyrilRomain | either the version does not exist in the tree and you could create the .bb file and submit it to the OE team to add it in the tree :) |
22:07.14 | furlongm | gotcha |
22:07.20 | furlongm | thanks :) |
22:07.27 | cyrilRomain | np |
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22:39.28 | cinix | I think using ${PN} and ${PV} accomplishes that, just have to rename the bb. |
22:40.14 | dtx_ | Are you talking to me? |
22:40.19 | dtx_ | cinix? |
22:40.32 | cinix | dtx_: oh hey, no I was responding to what cyril said. He appears to have quit, didn't notice. |
22:40.51 | cinix | dtx_: did you get your virtual SDL line fixed? |
22:40.54 | cinix | *sigh* |
22:41.03 | dtx_ | I'm still here |
22:41.17 | dtx | I'm still here |
22:41.26 | cinix | I see |
22:41.42 | dtx | Well, I set up the virtual sdl and I got everything to compile |
22:42.00 | dtx | But it won't make the rootfs saying it can't find libsdl-x11 |
22:42.04 | dtx | <PROTECTED> |
22:42.06 | dtx | | libsdl-x11 |
22:42.12 | dtx | is the exact error |
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22:42.24 | JustinP | dtx: RPROVIDE += "virtual/libsdl" perhaps? |
22:42.43 | dtx | hmmm, let me try |
22:42.55 | JustinP | dtx: and make whatever is RDEPENDing on libsdl-x11 RDEPEND on virtual/libsdl instead |
22:43.05 | dtx | ok |
22:43.11 | dtx | Let me try it real quick |
22:43.35 | JustinP | dtx: or maybe you just need to rebuild whatever package has that dep |
22:45.54 | cinix | I am having problems getting a meta file to put sdl on the rootfs too, and I'm pretty sure I did an rdepend |
22:47.43 | JustinP | cinix: did you rebuild the task/meta? |
22:47.59 | JustinP | cinix: if you just edit the RDEPEND in some file it won't auto-rebuild the task ipks |
22:48.43 | cinix | JustinP: yea I -cclean before I ran built it again |
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23:02.54 | dtx | <PROTECTED> |
23:02.55 | dtx | | Cannot find package virtual/libsdl. |
23:02.57 | dtx | | Check the spelling or perhaps run 'ipkg update' |
23:02.58 | dtx | | ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for python-pygame: |
23:03.00 | dtx | | virtual/libsdl |
23:03.02 | dtx | Anybody have any ideas? |
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23:19.37 | JustinP | dtx: perhaps I misunderstood. What sdl are you building and what does it RPROVIDE? |
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23:24.15 | florian | wohoo! |
23:24.17 | florian | NOTE: package gpe-image-1.0: completed |
23:24.26 | florian | OZ for nbp :-) |
23:24.39 | kergoth | nbp? |
23:27.22 | florian | kergoth: netbook pro |
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23:29.58 | kergoth | ah |
23:36.32 | koen | florian: I'd be very interested in that image :) |
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23:39.14 | koen | but right now I'm interested in gettting some sleep |
23:39.16 | koen | 'night all |
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23:44.25 | florian | okay, where do i get rid of this braindead kernel warning? |
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23:54.23 | florian | i'm impressed... that's way faster than the old image |
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