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| 00:14.45 | CIA-9 | 03rpurdie * r562 10bitbake/bin/bitbake: |
| 00:14.45 | CIA-9 | trunk/bitbake/bin/bitbake: |
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| 00:22.53 | CIA-9 | 03rpurdie * r563 10bitbake/ (bin/bitbake lib/bb/providers.py): |
| 00:22.53 | CIA-9 | trunk/bitbake/lib/bb/providers.py: |
| 00:22.53 | CIA-9 | trunk/bitbake/bin/bitbake: |
| 00:22.53 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:22.53 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:25.57 | CIA-9 | 03rpurdie * r564 10bitbake/bin/bitbake: |
| 00:25.57 | CIA-9 | trunk/bitbake/bin/bitbake: |
| 00:25.57 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:31.00 | RP | kergoth: http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/temp/bitbake_multithread-r3.patch if you want to see where its leading :) |
| 00:33.32 | kergoth | sweet, looks clean |
| 00:34.45 | RP | kergoth: Its not quite as functional as the existing bitbake in that it won't build alternate providers when one fails yet but all the structure is there to handle it and the multithreading works :) |
| 00:36.12 | kergoth | very cool |
| 00:40.16 | kergoth | will be nice to use that.. so much time is wasted for each test iteration waiting for builds, for just about any oe work. frustrating at times |
| 00:41.02 | RP | kergoth: I'm applying some tweaks to poky, then it will work against it - feel free to experiment :) |
| 00:41.56 | kergoth | look forward to it. heh, i need a scripot to dump a graphviz style dependency graph for a section of the metadata. would make it a lot oeasier to grasp the flow of large semgents, like X, opie, etc |
| 00:42.28 | RP | kergoth: bitbake head has dot graph generation |
| 00:42.46 | kergoth | cool |
| 00:43.07 | RP | kergoth: This code I'm working on can also output dependency data but its text based atm :) |
| 00:46.37 | RP | kergoth: The changes needed are now in poky so you just need a patched bitbake head to work with it :) |
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| 04:24.57 | JoeLaptop | test |
| 05:03.16 | JustinP | poushag: not sure what cmd-h does.....I've liked Aquamacs, though. They even fixed a problem I was having in a pretty quick period of time, so it's still being actively developed ^_^ |
| 05:03.22 | JustinP | poushag: no, I use a Linux box |
| 05:06.49 | poushag | justinp - check out the oz.org wiki page 'buildonosx' - im trying to make it easy for mac folks to set up and use oe |
| 05:07.31 | poushag | i tried aquamacs btw - too involved for me considering my background with beyond compare and xxdiff |
| 05:08.13 | poushag | but i found kdiff3 is being compiled for osx with each release :) |
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| 05:13.46 | poushag | justinp, aquamacs does appear to be more regularly maintained and with better documentation than the other emacs app i pasted earlier - it seems like chances are slim that the one i found is better than what youre using |
| 05:18.41 | poushag | anybody know offhand who maintains the samba package? |
| 05:18.52 | poushag | (for oe) |
| 05:19.16 | poushag | i mean in the .dev branch of oe |
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| 05:26.30 | poushag | im trying to read files off the samba share on my z and it keeps disconnecting |
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| 05:52.18 | kergoth | argh |
| 05:52.27 | kergoth | spend like a week ande a half wondering why builds are so damn low each pass |
| 05:52.32 | kergoth | forgot to build & install ccache |
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| 06:11.57 | Ifaistos | morning all |
| 06:14.08 | poushag | well turns out samba was ok after all - seem vi was eating my ram with on old session that it should have closed out when the wifi connection was broken |
| 06:14.41 | poushag | this is a busybox bug that was supposed to be fixed (since i built and am running 1.2.1) |
| 06:15.53 | poushag | if anybody else wants to check it out, its easy to duplicate - just pull out your wifi card while vi is running |
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| 06:37.26 | poushag | well samba may be a bit buggy after all |
| 06:38.07 | poushag | seems that one of the three smbd threads crashed when i tried to read (and copy) a fairly large file |
| 06:39.13 | poushag | only 11mb though so not that large |
| 06:39.45 | poushag | anybody have a problem with samba on the z before? maybe can tell me what limitations or bugs it has? |
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| 07:02.47 | Genesis | guten tag kinder |
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| 07:45.22 | rob_w | hi , where do you we have telnet in oe ? |
| 07:47.21 | zecke | rob_w: give busybox a try |
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| 07:49.27 | zecke | anyone will be at the LinuxWorldExpo and see ALP? |
| 07:53.40 | koen_ | maybe o-hand |
| 07:54.16 | zecke | but they can't give a report? |
| 07:54.25 | zecke | http://www.linuxworldexpo.com/live/12/events/12SFO06A/conference/CC782786 |
| 07:54.52 | rob_w | zecke, ah damn forgot about busybox |
| 07:55.23 | zecke | rob_w: but, I think we do not build telnet by default |
| 07:55.49 | rob_w | maybe i did as i did my own config some time ago |
| 07:58.45 | rob_w | yeah i ve it , thanks zecke |
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| 08:16.03 | RP | morning all |
| 08:17.44 | kergoth | morning |
| 08:22.34 | kergoth | RP: first time i tried building an image on patched trunk bitbake, it jumped right to the package i wanted to build, skipping all deps. hehe. |
| 08:23.33 | XorA|gone | kergoth: optimisation :-) |
| 08:23.43 | kergoth | hehe |
| 08:24.08 | kergoth | man, i really need to build a fast dev workstation |
| 08:24.21 | kergoth | compile times are a serious issue |
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| 08:27.26 | koen | good morning all |
| 08:28.53 | RP | kergoth: oops :) |
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| 08:29.21 | kergoth | :) |
| 08:29.27 | RP | kergoth: What were you telling it to build? |
| 08:29.36 | koen | NOTE: Invalid cache found, rebuilding... |
| 08:29.47 | kergoth | i think when i get settled in my new place here i'll start putting together a fast box. duel opteron or something |
| 08:29.55 | kergoth | RP: oh-image-core in poky |
| 08:30.34 | RP | Hmm. I just tried that and it started from scratch here... |
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| 08:31.15 | koen | wow |
| 08:31.21 | koen | bitbake -s is *fast* now |
| 08:31.26 | koen | RP: cheers |
| 08:32.07 | RP | koen: I was just looking at that bug report and wondering how someone could call it slow. I guess 1.5 is a bit faster than 1.4 :) |
| 08:32.25 | koen | 1.4 didn't use the cache |
| 08:32.41 | RP | koen: Ah, that would be slow... |
| 08:32.59 | koen | time to update sane-srcdates.conf |
| 08:33.56 | RP | koen: In the new depends code, we don't load bb files in a load more cases and something like bitbake bootstrap-image is much faster at checking all previously built depends |
| 08:34.48 | RP | kergoth: I'm puzzled as to why you didn't see the depends get built - its working fine here :-/ |
| 08:34.56 | kergoth | hmm, i'll see if i ican repro |
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| 08:37.37 | RP | http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/temp/bitbake_multithread-r4.patch is the latest code, although I don't think I changed anything critical |
| 08:38.43 | RP | The diff says the changes from -r3 were cosmetic :-/ |
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| 08:46.11 | ade|desk | hodwy folks |
| 08:46.16 | ade|desk | howdy even |
| 08:46.22 | kergoth | hey |
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| 08:47.01 | ade|desk | kergoth: surely you should be in bed by now, no ? |
| 08:47.34 | kergoth | nah, the ohand folks are just waking up :) |
| 08:48.34 | ade|desk | RP: how many people has mallum hoodwinked into ohand now ? |
| 08:51.39 | RP | ade|desk: There are 9 employees now... |
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| 08:52.46 | ade|desk | RP: do you get dentil ? |
| 08:52.52 | ade|desk | dental even |
| 08:53.56 | RP | ade|desk: no :) |
| 08:54.06 | CIA-9 | 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r17f3e8ec... 10/ (1 packages/iputils/iputils_20020927.bb): |
| 08:54.06 | CIA-9 | iputils 20020927: Permissions are not carried over from install to the |
| 08:54.06 | CIA-9 | packages, so for things that need SUID we need to set that in postinst. Add |
| 08:54.06 | CIA-9 | this for ping, ping6 and traceroute6. Also modify that package list so we |
| 08:54.06 | CIA-9 | append instead of replace it. |
| 08:58.31 | koen | RP: I categorized sane-srcdates into sections, feel free to change those to make merging between poky and OE easier for you |
| 08:59.09 | RP | koen: ok, thanks. I need to find some time to look at merging soon as things are beginning to lose sync a bit :) |
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| 09:01.19 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r926a789c... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/sane-srcdates.inc): sane srcdates: try to catch all floating cvs packages (bitbake -s | grep cvs | grep -v opie) and categorize it |
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| 09:05.02 | CIA-9 | 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r87d22bea... 10/ (6 files in 4 dirs): |
| 09:05.02 | CIA-9 | ndisc6: Add ndisc6 which contains tools for IPV6 neighbor discover, IPV6 |
| 09:05.02 | CIA-9 | router discovery, an IPv4/IPv6 performance measurement tool, and an IPv6 |
| 09:05.02 | CIA-9 | UDP+TCP traceroute implementation. |
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| 09:13.45 | XorA | RP: I think static is even worse now :-( |
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| 09:15.13 | florian_kc | good morning |
| 09:15.20 | florian_kc | good morning |
| 09:15.24 | XorA | hey florian_kc |
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| 09:19.54 | pb_ | florian_kc: good morning, good morning |
| 09:21.20 | florian_kc | heh |
| 09:21.22 | florian_kc | oops |
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| 09:22.47 | XorA | koen: monotone.oe.org is sick mtn: error: I/O failure while talking to peer monotone.openembedded.org, disconnecting |
| 09:25.07 | ade|desk | XorA: worked for me ~3 mins ago |
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| 09:25.36 | XorA | ade|desk: it worked for a pull, sync killed it |
| 09:25.53 | XorA | ade|desk: and is giving that error everytime now |
| 09:27.00 | ade|desk | doh |
| 09:31.02 | RP | XorA: not good. Best talk to Liam I guess... |
| 09:31.50 | XorA | RP: I shall have to try and get machine into his hands this week |
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| 09:42.14 | RP | XorA: ok, sounds good. I should also try and do some testing. I didn't get as much done as I wanted this weekend. Got too addicted to bitbake hacking... |
| 09:43.09 | XorA | RP: heh heh, I was being social |
| 09:50.56 | Genesis | i've some pb of INHIBIT_PACKAGE_STRIP |
| 09:51.19 | Genesis | i just tarbzipped a linux kernel ; make a bb file to compile it |
| 09:51.47 | Genesis | i read http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/OeFaq |
| 09:52.36 | Genesis | but no way |
| 09:53.36 | Genesis | could i install the package by hand and go ahead ? |
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| 09:57.38 | koobla | hi all! |
| 09:59.13 | koobla | has anyone seen arm-eabi-ld (from binutils 2.17) segfault while linking the kernel (I use 2.6.17.1, will try with git asap)? |
| 10:03.34 | koen | koobla: I haven't seen that yet |
| 10:04.06 | koobla | the linker segfaults after reading in the libraries. |
| 10:04.16 | koobla | did a complete recompile, no change... |
| 10:04.26 | koobla | (of the kernel, not the linker...) |
| 10:04.35 | nchip | bad ram? |
| 10:05.01 | koobla | hm, could be. although the machine's running for 2 years now |
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| 10:13.33 | woglinde | ~seen zecke |
| 10:13.39 | ibot | zecke <n=ich@145.253.107.2> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 2h 18m 16s ago, saying: 'rob_w: but, I think we do not build telnet by default'. |
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| 10:16.21 | lrg | morning all |
| 10:16.32 | XorA | lrg: morning |
| 10:17.10 | RP | hi Liam |
| 10:17.14 | RP | wb zecke |
| 10:17.19 | woglinde | hi lrg |
| 10:22.26 | XorA | lrg: I have you latest patch on the machine |
| 10:22.35 | XorA | lrg: still getting static |
| 10:23.02 | lrg | XorA: damn. can you do the debug ? |
| 10:23.39 | lrg | XorA: enable POP_DEBUG in soc-dapm.c and listen for when the static occurs |
| 10:23.49 | XorA | lrg: not sure how I can differentiate between 500ms pauses |
| 10:24.06 | XorA | lrg: but satic is starting from termination of sound until 5s is up |
| 10:24.25 | XorA | lrg: unless I misunderstood your email |
| 10:24.50 | lrg | XorA: ah, ok. I'll speak with hw engineer again. He's just back from holiday today. |
| 10:25.02 | XorA | lrg: ah re-read it, youve put artificial extra pauses in? |
| 10:25.45 | lrg | XorA: not yet, I had a rethink and was hoping the hp mute would do the trick. |
| 10:26.14 | XorA | lrg: well if he want to hear the sounds get him to grab me tomorrow morning |
| 10:26.37 | lrg | XorA: will do. Thanks |
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| 10:48.23 | CIA-9 | 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r2957eac4... 10/ (1 packages/xmms/files/xmms.sh packages/xmms/xmms_1.2.10.bb): |
| 10:48.23 | CIA-9 | xmms_1.2.10.bb : add an icon and .desktop file for xmms |
| 10:48.23 | CIA-9 | Call via a wrapper scipt so we can insert XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 before |
| 10:48.23 | CIA-9 | xmms so that double size mode works correctly (a tip gleaned from gentoo FAQ) |
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| 11:15.55 | pb_ | hi zecke |
| 11:16.16 | zecke | master |
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| 11:34.24 | XorA | RP: check your mail, a bit of a breakthrough possibly on static situ |
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| 11:37.35 | pb_ | zecke: I am about to check in to monotone for the first time ever. how exciting. |
| 11:38.57 | RP | XorA: Just replied - I have some further thoughts |
| 11:39.03 | do13_ | morning all |
| 11:39.07 | RP | hi Dirk |
| 11:39.15 | do13_ | hey Richard |
| 11:40.01 | XorA | RP: excellent it does explain why Ive been having so much trouble repeating static, at work I ssh in so people dont seem me messing with PDA all day |
| 11:41.12 | woglinde | jo |
| 11:43.26 | zecke | pb_: yeaaaah |
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| 11:43.56 | mr_nice_slacker | hi all |
| 11:44.00 | mr_nice_slacker | x29a: ping |
| 11:46.35 | giel | hm |
| 11:46.53 | giel | does anyone else's pkgconfig-native binary segfault at pkgconfig --help ? |
| 11:47.22 | zecke | giel: no |
| 11:47.31 | zecke | giel: what does gdb say? |
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| 11:51.24 | giel | Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. |
| 11:51.24 | giel | 0xb7e691db in strlen () from /lib/tls/libc.so.6 |
| 11:51.41 | giel | weird |
| 11:54.11 | pb_ | zecke: what does this error mean? |
| 11:54.12 | pb_ | mtn: warning: protocol error while processing peer monotone.openembedded.org: 'received network error: remote public key hash '1568b67196ccc7dbcb5a143477645eadf395f7a9' is unknown' |
| 11:54.17 | giel | ah |
| 11:54.23 | giel | from the 0.20-1 changelog: |
| 11:54.24 | giel | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:02.53 | CIA-9 | 03Alex 07org.oe.dev * r28c6631c... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): jornada56x: Use the 2.6er for the Jornada56x, do not use DEVFS |
| 12:10.07 | giel | zecke: what's the version of pkgconfig in the latest .dev? |
| 12:11.08 | giel | zecke: and no, on your earlier question, i'm not at the bmco meeting... only meetings i might go to at this moment is cbms meetings, but that's mostly covered by a colleague |
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| 12:44.19 | Ifaistos | is www.openembeded down ? |
| 12:48.12 | florian_kc | Ifaistos: no, but terribly slow... some processes are causing a high load |
| 12:56.35 | koobla | koen: now I use binutils-cross_cvs and get: arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-ld: .tmp_vmlinux1: sh_link of section `.ARM.exidx.exit.text' points to discarded section `.exit.text' of `arch/arm/nwfpe/built-in.o' |
| 13:02.27 | pb_ | mickey|thesis: are you there? |
| 13:05.11 | florian_kc | Ifaistos: should be better now... |
| 13:05.30 | Ifaistos | florian_kc : yes noticed it also :) |
| 13:06.01 | florian_kc | Ifaistos: looks like a google bot hit a cvs repository... |
| 13:06.13 | florian_kc | I guess that's fixed now :-) |
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| 13:14.58 | koen | florian_kc: heh |
| 13:15.30 | florian_kc | these bits are quite rude |
| 13:20.37 | ade|desk | wtf bug 1311 ? |
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| 13:30.45 | pb_ | hi reenoo |
| 13:31.01 | reenoo | hey pb_ |
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| 13:34.52 | Ifaistos | Can anyone tell me why asterisk_2.9.1.bb requires alsa-lib libogg libvorbis popt ? Is this arm specific because on other arches these are not nessesary ? |
| 13:35.40 | Ifaistos | * ver is 1.2.9.1 |
| 13:38.51 | koen | Ifaistos: the depends aren't arm specific |
| 13:39.53 | Ifaistos | koen : I know, i ment that they might be need it for arm because for other archs they are not. ppc and x86 compile fine without them |
| 13:40.49 | Ifaistos | the only problem i have is that x86/uclibc * seg faults on load. on ppc loads/runs fine |
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| 13:46.22 | Ifaistos | koen : I have * 1.2.10 with bristuff patches and zaptel/libpri support need to figure out why asterisk seg faults on x86 before posting |
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| 14:05.31 | nchip | abuilding meta-sdk: |
| 14:05.33 | nchip | ERROR: Nothing provides runtime dependency libgcc1 |
| 14:05.54 | koen | I can fix that :) |
| 14:07.18 | ArjanS | koen: hi. to build an eabi kernel, can I use gcc 3.4.6? or do I need >4? |
| 14:07.50 | koen | ArjanS: DISTRO=angstrom-2006.9 |
| 14:08.28 | ArjanS | koen: thanks, but I'd like to build a gcc outside of OE for kernel testing purposes |
| 14:10.44 | ArjanS | would I need a gcc >=4 toolchain for that? |
| 14:10.58 | koen | yes |
| 14:11.06 | ArjanS | thanks |
| 14:12.32 | koen | nchip: I should have fixed that error you were seeing |
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| 14:22.58 | poushag | rp i was the one who said bitbake -s was slow - thx for taking it seriously and addressing it - for some reason when i posted in here about it people were not very receptive |
| 14:23.52 | RP | poushag: I didn't actually change the code, I just noted the development branch has much faster code (and fixed a different problem with it) :) |
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| 14:25.19 | koen | RP: any plans on releasing a 1.6.0 RC ? |
| 14:25.50 | koen | RP: and a 1.4.3 from the 1.4 branch? |
| 14:26.19 | zecke | hehe |
| 14:26.29 | zecke | I won't feel overstepped now :) |
| 14:27.02 | koen | zecke: I'm finishing the docs before supper |
| 14:27.25 | koen | zecke: and I'm leaving after supper, and I'll be back on the 20060821 |
| 14:27.51 | zecke | you really got no internet? |
| 14:28.16 | zecke | poushag: developing BitBake has tought me one thing |
| 14:28.22 | zecke | poushag: people will always complain |
| 14:28.31 | koen | only at 'the office' |
| 14:28.34 | zecke | poushag: they will complain because they do not like the color of the output |
| 14:28.43 | zecke | poushag: they will complain because they think it is too slow |
| 14:28.51 | zecke | poushag: they will complain because it is too fast |
| 14:29.04 | zecke | poushag: they will complain because it is not using enough memory |
| 14:29.07 | koen | zecke: but during the earliest time I can get real internet is probably sunday |
| 14:29.11 | zecke | poushag: they will complain it used too much... |
| 14:29.15 | RP | zecke: overstepped? |
| 14:29.41 | koen | zecke: I will try to check mail with that &$*#^&&# moto mail client everyday |
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| 14:30.09 | poushag | so which version of bitbake should i be installing now? |
| 14:30.09 | koen | zecke: and I do have some hours left to make you happy onthe 21st |
| 14:30.25 | RP | koen: I'm not sure I know how to make releases ;-) |
| 14:30.35 | RP | That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it :) |
| 14:30.45 | koen | . o O (tslib release) |
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| 14:32.56 | poushag | zecke, i understand what you mean - sometimes its hard to cull true performance issues from mere complaints |
| 14:34.13 | zecke | RP: hehe ;) |
| 14:34.16 | zecke | RP: psst |
| 14:34.33 | poushag | but in this case, i was not merely complaining but based on my experience with past software development, trying to call attention to a true performance issue |
| 14:34.34 | zecke | poushag: don't get me wrong. Waiting three minutes for a 'simple' command to complete is a long time |
| 14:34.54 | zecke | poushag: trying to call attention is pretty useless with Free Software |
| 14:35.07 | zecke | poushag: you can try that at a Money backed Vendor |
| 14:35.17 | poushag | if its that bad on just a -s, i could only imagine that it must be worse when actually building something |
| 14:35.23 | zecke | e.g. I can try to make Apple add proper mailinglist support to Apple Mail |
| 14:35.47 | emte | how does a not often used "parsing summary" qualify as a performance feature ? |
| 14:35.48 | poushag | anyway it got the results i was seeking |
| 14:36.04 | poushag | so which version of bitbake should i be using now? |
| 14:36.19 | zecke | the latest stable release |
| 14:36.38 | zecke | RP: if you feel like doing BitBake release |
| 14:36.45 | emte | as well kergoth toold you haw to fix the issue |
| 14:36.49 | zecke | RP: kergoth or I could add you to a group |
| 14:37.05 | zecke | RP: or you branch+tag, upload the sourcecode and I will play with the WebGui |
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| 14:38.39 | poushag | emte, if you were addressing me, i dont recall kergoth telling me how to fix the issue other than saying to file a bug report on it - which is exactly what i did - where you referring to something else? |
| 14:38.52 | poushag | *were |
| 14:39.13 | emte | no, you were told it was due to inefficient python parsing |
| 14:40.09 | poushag | which is fixed how? im already running psyco |
| 14:40.15 | zecke | poushag: sorry, this 'developed' in a wrong way |
| 14:41.39 | emte | and yes i recall kergoth telling you to file a bug |
| 14:42.15 | emte | it is fixed by using a more efficent method to parse |
| 14:43.09 | RP | emte: I closed the bug as its fixed in the the unstable version of bitbake |
| 14:43.31 | poushag | zecke, me too - i was trying to thank rp and ask if i can start using this improved bitbake - but it seems i cant merely 'bitbake bitabke' :P or can i? |
| 14:43.55 | poushag | heh typo - bitbake bitbake i meant |
| 14:43.57 | zecke | poushag: you can start using this SVN date |
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| 14:44.24 | RP | poushag: You can use the unstable 1.5 version from svn. Note the word unstable though... |
| 14:44.53 | poushag | how bad is it? crashes every other build or just once in a while? |
| 14:45.23 | zecke | poushag: It had a time.sleep(5) |
| 14:45.39 | zecke | and an 'sanity' check that spits stuff to your console when parsing |
| 14:45.47 | zecke | besides that it is stable and faster |
| 14:45.59 | zecke | but things could be different tomorrow when/if RP lands his changes |
| 14:46.12 | koen | didn't RP already land his changes? |
| 14:46.27 | poushag | ok so more verbosity i can deal with but i dont know what a time.sleep is |
| 14:46.30 | zecke | did he? |
| 14:46.32 | zecke | RP: did you? |
| 14:46.52 | zecke | poushag: when you call it. The first thing it does is doing nothing for five seconds |
| 14:46.53 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.packaged-staging * r8c68fe8c... 10/ (1 docs/packaged-staging.xml): docs/packaged-staging.xml: start filling in "How to proceed from here" |
| 14:47.14 | poushag | oh right - just didnt recognize the syntax |
| 14:47.43 | poushag | well i never built bitbake the first time around |
| 14:47.55 | poushag | guess i will go read the wiki about it |
| 14:48.04 | zecke | there is not much to build |
| 14:48.06 | woglinde | koen hm whats PACKAGE_DYNAMIC do? |
| 14:48.19 | RP | zecke: I pushed some changes - not any of the totally new code though |
| 14:48.38 | koen | woglinde: that give OE/bitbake a clue about generated packages to evalluate in RDEPENDS |
| 14:48.40 | zecke | woglinde: got that spare ticket? |
| 14:48.53 | woglinde | zecke what? |
| 14:49.12 | zecke | woglinde: did you find someone ti join you yet? |
| 14:49.26 | woglinde | zecke I have no answer |
| 14:52.36 | poushag | so the wiki only shows how to svn co the 1.4.2 version of bitbake - do i just change that to 1.5 or what? |
| 14:54.36 | RP | poushag: something like svn co svn://svn.berlios.de/bitbake/trunk/bitbake bitbake at a guess |
| 15:01.53 | poushag | k thx |
| 15:04.00 | mr_nice_slacker | zecke: I have a working mtn now and checkouted org.openembedded.dev branch successfully - can you please give me the name of the documentation branch - i have forgotten the name? |
| 15:04.29 | woglinde | mr_nice www.openembedded.org |
| 15:04.37 | woglinde | there is the branch mentioned |
| 15:04.43 | mr_nice_slacker | ok |
| 15:04.52 | zecke | mr_nice_slacker: org.openembedded.documentation |
| 15:06.43 | mr_nice_slacker | thx |
| 15:07.44 | woglinde | mr_nice how loang last your battery of the simpad? |
| 15:08.31 | mr_nice_slacker | woglinde: between 2 and 4 hours |
| 15:09.00 | mr_nice_slacker | woglinde: depend on how many devices i have connected to it |
| 15:09.23 | mr_nice_slacker | woglinde: how long lastes yours? |
| 15:12.19 | poushag | rp, it checked out rev 564 - does that sound right? |
| 15:12.45 | koen | poushag: yes |
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| 15:18.21 | mr_nice_slacker | is there a good wysiwyg for that docbook stuff or you are using a texteditor only? |
| 15:18.46 | koen | I use vi or TextEdit.app |
| 15:19.28 | mr_nice_slacker | koen: how familiar is it to html? |
| 15:20.08 | mr_nice_slacker | koen: do you know a good howto or documentation? |
| 15:20.09 | nchip | koen: http://pastebin.ca/131513 |
| 15:20.55 | koen | nchip: eeks! |
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| 15:23.10 | koen | nchip: fixed :) |
| 15:23.38 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r1ff32bea... 10/ (1 packages/gcc/gcc-package-cross.inc): |
| 15:23.38 | CIA-9 | gcc-package-cross.inc: fix bitbake crashes |
| 15:23.38 | CIA-9 | ~lart python |
| 15:24.34 | poushag | hmm - when i check bitbake version it still says 1.4.2 - i checked out rev 564 in right dir - shouldn;t it have overwritten the older one? |
| 15:25.34 | woglinde | mr_nice same |
| 15:25.52 | nchip | koen: thanks :) |
| 15:25.54 | koen | poushag: what does 'which bitbake' show ? |
| 15:26.48 | mr_nice_slacker | woglinde: i will rebuild mine before next school year starts - I have read about up to 10 hours while only reading a doc |
| 15:27.04 | mr_nice_slacker | woglinde: does zeckes mq200 driver works for you? |
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| 15:27.33 | poushag | "/stuff/bitbake/bin/bitbake" dated 2006-08-08 06:38 |
| 15:28.09 | poushag | which is where svn claimed to have dropped the binary i checked out |
| 15:33.51 | poushag | and the date seems to match - so maybe the bitbake version info in the latest hasnt been changed yet? |
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| 15:35.23 | Greg2 | hello everyone |
| 15:35.33 | Greg2 | koen: thanks for the new images :) |
| 15:35.58 | RP | poushag: r564 is correct |
| 15:36.15 | koen | nchip: I think you'll have to bother florian_kc for further errors ;) |
| 15:36.23 | RP | poushag: It should say verison 1.5 |
| 15:36.39 | koen | BB_VERSION = "1.5.0" |
| 15:37.54 | poushag | rp, so the problem is on my end it seems - maybe the svn co cmd needs a switch added to force it to overwrite existing files? |
| 15:38.56 | RP | poushag: try a checkout into a fresh directory to work out whats going on |
| 15:39.10 | RP | poushag: You can always move the files around afterwards |
| 15:39.19 | poushag | yeah |
| 15:40.20 | Greg2 | koen: I see 2 kernels in your Angstrom poodle directory, I assume they have different boot parameters? Which one boots off internal flash? |
| 15:40.35 | Greg2 | the first or second you compiled? |
| 15:41.26 | koen | Greg2: they should have the same parameters |
| 15:41.35 | Greg2 | ok |
| 15:41.42 | koen | they should be 100% the same |
| 15:43.42 | Greg2 | thanks... d/l now on my dail-up :( |
| 15:43.46 | Greg2 | bbl |
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| 15:46.47 | poushag | ok i renamed the existing bitbake dir and did svn co again |
| 15:46.59 | poushag | but it still says bitbake is ver 1.4.2 |
| 15:47.58 | x29a | mr_nice_slacker: i have the suspicion that reading is much faster than writing, im still writing the image from the day before yesterday |
| 15:49.23 | mr_nice_slacker | x29a: could be |
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| 15:50.47 | RP | poushag: The command I gave you checks out version 1.5.0 - I just checked |
| 15:53.09 | poushag | rp, thx for checking - i dont understand whats going on - im going to compare the two dirs with kdiff just to see if they are really the same |
| 15:53.14 | RP | poushag: make sure bitbake isn't installed somewhere else on your system |
| 15:53.19 | poushag | kdiff3 actually |
| 15:53.39 | mr_nice_slacker | x29a: on which adress is it? |
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| 15:59.35 | poushag | rp, thats it - somehow i got bitbake in two places |
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| 16:00.30 | poushag | sorry for the confusion |
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| 16:01.38 | poushag | still getting used to the environment |
| 16:05.11 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r6ba04c1a... 10/ (1 packages/gnutls/gnutls_1.4.0.bb): gnutils 1.4.0: add PACKAGES_DYNAMIC |
| 16:05.14 | poushag | is this an error i can ignore? Error Method already seen: get_appweb_host in' appweb_1.2.0.bb' now in 'appweb_2.0.4.bb' |
| 16:05.16 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r2a251a71... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-sdk.bb): task-sdk: s/ice/libice/ |
| 16:05.25 | poushag | (from bitbake-1.5.0) |
| 16:05.26 | RP | poushag: Yes, ignore |
| 16:05.30 | koen | poushag: that's the verbosity zecke mentioned |
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| 16:06.22 | poushag | ok good - just checking - it does say 'error' after all |
| 16:06.54 | RP | poushag: It could be argued it is an error - just doesn't happen to break anything :) |
| 16:07.12 | koen | grrr |
| 16:07.16 | koen | ~lart gdb-cross |
| 16:07.18 | koen | | iwmmxt.c:3707: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'memcpy' |
| 16:08.35 | poushag | it appears to be unable to use the cache from 1.4.2 - which makes sense - i dont need to kill any of my stuff in /stuff/build do i? |
| 16:08.42 | koen | nchip: I fixed all errors of meta-sdk till gdb-cross, which I don't know how to solve |
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| 16:09.51 | RP | welcome back pb_ ! :) |
| 16:10.13 | pb_ | heh |
| 16:11.09 | florian_kc | yay! |
| 16:11.13 | poushag | hey pb_ - if you know how i can mask out or disable building all the locale stuff i would like to write it up on the wiki |
| 16:11.17 | zecke | yeaahhh |
| 16:11.38 | zecke | pb_: my master |
| 16:11.47 | pb_ | poushag: you can't |
| 16:11.52 | RP | poushag: Dont set ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION ? |
| 16:12.06 | poushag | my build machine is pretty weak so im trying to avoid building stuff i will never use |
| 16:12.11 | zecke | pb_: what was the name of the GNU tool to fix relationships again? |
| 16:13.10 | pb_ | zecke: oh dear, which relationship do you need to fix? |
| 16:13.43 | poushag | now thats what im talkin about!! bitbake -s is spiffy now - thx to whoever fixed it |
| 16:17.15 | poushag | rp, i was trying to use bbmask to mask out '*locale*' but its not working - the switch you named was mentioned in local.conf comments as being compatible with angstrom and familiar - will it work for oz unstable too? |
| 16:18.14 | poushag | (the switch is actually a line setting the var to zero which is currently commented out) |
| 16:18.59 | koen | zecke: could you upload a copy of the bitdoc output to openembedded.org when you have some time? |
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| 16:22.11 | RP | poushag: bbmask won't work - one .bb file generates all the locales so you can't mask it out |
| 16:22.53 | RP | poushag: You'll probably have to change that variable in the distro .conf files for OZ as turning it off can cause problems |
| 16:24.28 | poushag | hmm - i dont have distro.conf anywhere in my /stuff tree |
| 16:24.39 | poushag | oh nm |
| 16:24.52 | Genesis | bye |
| 16:24.52 | poushag | misread that |
| 16:25.59 | poushag | ok so oz-unstable.conf seems like the right file |
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| 16:28.43 | poushag | rp, i dont see that variable in openzaurus-unstable.conf - what now? |
| 16:30.01 | RP | poushag: 2 seconds using grep tells me: |
| 16:30.03 | RP | ./conf/distro/openzaurus-3.5.4.1.conf:ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION = "1" |
| 16:30.03 | RP | ./conf/distro/openzaurus-3.5.4.2.conf:ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION = "1" |
| 16:31.52 | koen | RP: those don't in .dev, afaik |
| 16:32.03 | poushag | im not using that branch so i wasnt looking in those - but i get it now - the same switches and vars that work in one should work in the other |
| 16:32.09 | koen | (insert "exist" somewhere) |
| 16:32.26 | poushag | ah rats |
| 16:32.47 | RP | ah, I'm getting confused then. Too many things at once :-/ |
| 16:34.01 | RP | poushag: It looks like it might not be enabled in .dev by default, presuming the default is off |
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| 16:35.59 | poushag | it sounds like koen you are saying that if i add ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION = "0" to the oz-unstable.conf it wont work |
| 16:36.17 | koen | it will work |
| 16:36.23 | poushag | i mean it wont disable locale gen |
| 16:36.27 | koen | it will also work when you put it in local.conf |
| 16:36.53 | poushag | ah ok good - it was only mentioned for angstrom and familiar so i didnt try it |
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| 16:41.00 | koen | poushag: angstrom has the code disabled since the qemu in OE doesn't handle EABI yet |
| 16:42.08 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.packaged-staging * rafae21a1... 10/ (1 docs/packaged-staging.xml): docs/packaged-staging.xml: expand "how to go from here" |
| 16:43.08 | poushag | the wiki doesnt have much detail about what package-index bitbake target does - i will add to the wiki if someone can pls explain: does it index all the things in stamps dir or just the latest PR? |
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| 16:46.22 | RP | koen: You have a patch for qemu for eabi? |
| 16:47.28 | raduga | how are you people using qemu? as a target, for running ARM on x86? |
| 16:47.36 | raduga | or are you running qemu arm host? |
| 16:47.55 | poushag | scratch the question from that last post |
| 16:49.16 | poushag | but i still would like to add some detail to the wiki about package-index target - can someone explain what are its inputs and how are they processed? (so far as i know it reads stamps dir) |
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| 16:54.59 | koen | RP: it's in scratchbox darcs |
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| 17:00.17 | RP | koen: cool. That would be a nice patch to have in OE :) |
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| 17:05.19 | koen | RP: iirc it's this one: http://scratchbox.org/cgi-bin/darcsweb.cgi?r=1.2/scratchbox;a=filediff;h=20051118130411-baf8b-86da9f6c74dd358044966f726c69a4b57e8cadbd.gz;f=tools/qemu/files/arm-tls.patch |
| 17:05.34 | koen | RP: but nchip will be a better person to talk to :) |
| 17:06.11 | RP | koen: I'll try and have a look later, thanks - the url is useful to know :) |
| 17:07.50 | x29a | mr_nice_slacker: now at verify |
| 17:07.53 | x29a | erasing block 127: 0 |
| 17:07.53 | x29a | addr: 0x00FFFFFE |
| 17:07.58 | x29a | verify: |
| 17:08.17 | nchip | RP: that's the one you want: http://scratchbox.org/cgi-bin/darcsweb.cgi?r=1.0/sb-cputransp-devkit;a=plainblob;f=/cputransp/qemu-0.8.0-sb/files/42_arm_nptl.patch |
| 17:14.54 | mr_nice_slacker | x29a: hopefully it will do the job |
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| 17:56.54 | Ifaistos | is anyone having problems with gcc-cross-initial_3.4.4 ? |
| 17:57.52 | Ifaistos | it fails at the packaging stage... |
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| 18:14.52 | CIA-9 | 03eFfeM 07org.oe.dev * r0fb74741... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 18:14.52 | CIA-9 | uclibc: patches to compile with gcc 4.1.1 with thumb instruction set |
| 18:14.52 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:19.10 | mr_nice_slacker | x29a: did it the job? |
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| 18:48.11 | mreimer | hello all |
| 18:48.16 | mreimer | long time no see |
| 18:50.41 | zecke | how are you? |
| 18:52.03 | mreimer | zecke: I'm doing well, busy with Real Life(TM) |
| 18:52.06 | mreimer | zecke: how are you? |
| 18:52.14 | mreimer | saw your blog posting about performance |
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| 18:58.31 | poushag | hi zecke |
| 18:59.09 | poushag | zecke have you seen kdiff3 app for mac? it roxxors and they compile it for mac with every release |
| 18:59.15 | poushag | :) |
| 19:00.25 | poushag | the only thing i have yet to figure out with it is how to have multiple sessions at the same time - was trying to run it from iterm with '&' suffixed but itern just complains that its a directory |
| 19:00.39 | poushag | *iterm |
| 19:01.16 | mreimer | what wrong: "qemu: uncaught target signal 4 (Illegal instruction) - exiting" |
| 19:01.26 | mreimer | I've tried Debian's qemu, as well as qemu-native |
| 19:01.29 | mreimer | same problem |
| 19:06.10 | Ken|JLime | Why the bump in glibc? |
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| 19:14.53 | poushag | ken i think it was something about empty debug directories that werent supposed to be part of certain packages |
| 19:15.13 | poushag | seems like it is merely cosmetic |
| 19:15.46 | Kristoffer | Aha, oki |
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| 19:25.08 | poushag | im trying to do ssh command forwarding to run 'ipkg update' every time i update the ipk feed on my build machine |
| 19:25.31 | poushag | problem is that /usr/lib/ipkg is owned by root:root |
| 19:27.05 | poushag | im reluctant to change the owner by brute force - im thinking move all the ipkg lists to sd and create a symlink where the old dir was |
| 19:27.29 | poushag | anybody have an opinion on whether this is a good idea? |
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| 19:30.09 | poushag | which also gains me pkg lists that are retained through the suspend/wake-up process |
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| 19:40.10 | Kristoff | Still getting udev requires hotplug, at boot time. Got hotplug-ng in RDEPENDS |
| 19:40.53 | x29a | mr_nice_slacker: still verifiying |
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| 19:44.03 | poushag | well i tried it out and it seems to work great with a root-owned symlink to a user owned dir on sd |
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| 20:10.31 | woglinde | hi renoo |
| 20:10.46 | reenoo | hey woglinde |
| 20:19.48 | Kristoff | Anyone know if I can specify with cvs what kernel version I want the snapshot for (I download patches from armlinux and linuxsh) |
| 20:23.22 | Crofton | cvs or git? |
| 20:23.30 | Kristoff | cvs |
| 20:23.38 | Crofton | dunno |
| 20:23.49 | Crofton | I did a git version for u-bot recently |
| 20:24.11 | Crofton | er u-boot, look int packages/uboot |
| 20:24.18 | woglinde | crofton *g* |
| 20:24.22 | Crofton | there may be a cvs version there also |
| 20:24.32 | Kristoff | oki thx |
| 20:24.58 | Crofton | I actually booted of the u-boot built from that on my OSK |
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| 21:04.01 | Kristoff | Getting "Udev requires hotplug, not started" |
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| 21:23.33 | mreimer | to answer my earlier question about this error message: "qemu: uncaught target signal 4 (Illegal instruction) - exiting" |
| 21:24.23 | mreimer | apparently qemu doesn't like "include conf/machine/include/tune-iwmmxt.conf" in conf/machine/ipaq-pxa270.conf. Maybe it chokes on iwmmxt extensions. |
| 21:25.01 | mreimer | I commented it out and replaced with "include conf/machine/include/tune-xscale.conf" and now glibc locales are being generated without that sig 4 error |
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| 21:27.17 | CIA-9 | 03kristoffer 07org.oe.dev * r57e5d3d6... 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 21:27.17 | CIA-9 | linux/linux-jlime-jornada6xx-2.6.17/defconfig_jlime: Changes |
| 21:27.17 | CIA-9 | * Rebuild firmware |
| 21:27.17 | CIA-9 | * Set all wifi as modules |
| 21:27.22 | CIA-9 | 03kristoffer 07org.oe.dev * r5e78d559... 10/ (1 conf/distro/jlime-donkey.conf): |
| 21:27.22 | CIA-9 | conf/distro/jlime-donkey.conf : Add wget to rdpends |
| 21:27.22 | CIA-9 | * Due to busybox wget having issues with passive ftp, we want |
| 21:27.24 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:27.27 | CIA-9 | 03kristoffer 07org.oe.dev * r04264e63... 10/ (1 conf/distro/jlime-donkey.conf): |
| 21:27.28 | CIA-9 | conf/distro/jlime-donkey.conf : Removal of some RDEPENDS |
| 21:27.30 | CIA-9 | * Remove pcmciautils, orinoco-conf, hotplug-ng |
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| 22:12.30 | x29a | mr_nice_slacker1: verify done |
| 22:12.34 | x29a | now lets see |
| 22:13.30 | hvontres|poodle | CoreDump|home: Have you had any luck looking into the issues altboot seems to be having with loop-images lately ? |
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| 22:19.50 | x29a | anyone a hint for what could be wrong if i cant get past the FABDATA message whilst booting my simpad? |
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