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| 01:31.55 | psokolovsky_ | Damn: current path: gpe-image (gpe-image) -> gpe-conf (gpe-conf) -> ipaq-sleep (ipaq-sleep) -> xserver-kdrive (virtual/xserver) -> libsdl-qpe (virtual/libsdl) -> libqpe-opie (virtual/libqpe1) -> qmake-native (qmake-native) |
| 01:38.15 | psokolovsky_ | So, it's a bit wrong here, and there's no simple and nice way to solve that. Either define PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/libsdl manually, or split distro confs to GPE/Opie versions. |
| 01:38.32 | psokolovsky_ | Bitbake needs to be taught to deal with this situation. |
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| 01:41.21 | SonicvanaJr | Would anybody be kind enough to tell what packages I would need to install to get X working on an Opie image, or atleast point me to some form of documentation that would ? |
| 01:50.42 | psokolovsky_ | Ok, false alarm in my previous messages, sample local.conf defines it to libsdl-qpe, lol |
| 01:50.47 | CIA-9 | 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r00108e78... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 01:50.47 | CIA-9 | linux: Add a 2.6.17 kernel for the pcengines WRAP (Wireless Router |
| 01:50.47 | CIA-9 | Application Platform) boards. These boards use a 233MHz AMD Geode |
| 01:50.47 | CIA-9 | SC1100 CPU (i486). |
| 01:59.12 | CosmicPenguin | gah! |
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| 02:22.48 | CIA-9 | 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r4d0f56c5... 10/ (1 packages/groff/groff_1.19.2.bb): |
| 02:22.48 | CIA-9 | groff 1.19.2: The install task was failing because groff refuses to install |
| 02:22.48 | CIA-9 | into the specified prefix (${D} in this case) unless that directory already |
| 02:22.48 | CIA-9 | exists. So modify to manually create ${D} in the install task. Its not clear |
| 02:22.48 | CIA-9 | what change broke this but it appears that ${D} used to be created |
| 02:22.48 | CIA-9 | automatically but this is no longer occuring. |
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| 02:37.20 | CIA-9 | 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * rfc647af5... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 02:37.20 | CIA-9 | ebtables 2.0.6: Patch to enable compiling with gcc 4.x. Tested with gcc |
| 02:37.20 | CIA-9 | 4.1.1 and 3.4.4. |
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| 07:03.02 | giel | "NXP founded by Philips" |
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| 07:54.35 | XorA | morning |
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| 08:42.34 | XorA | hey mikearthur |
| 08:43.27 | mikearthur | XorA: hola |
| 08:45.05 | hrw|work | hi mikearthur |
| 08:45.16 | hrw|work | mikearthur: patch results are awesome |
| 08:45.19 | mikearthur | :D |
| 08:45.21 | mikearthur | I'm glad |
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| 08:54.47 | florian_kc | good morning |
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| 09:03.45 | hrw|work | hi florian_kc |
| 09:08.12 | bigd0g | 'lo |
| 09:19.20 | mikearthur | ERROR: Nothing provides dependency ${MACHINE_TASK_PROVIDER} |
| 09:19.24 | mikearthur | never seen that before :s |
| 09:20.48 | mikearthur | any ideas? |
| 09:21.45 | hrw|work | not without infos |
| 09:22.07 | mikearthur | ERROR: dependency ${MACHINE_TASK_PROVIDER} (for gpe-image) not satisfied |
| 09:22.10 | mikearthur | NOTE: preferred version 2.4 of glibc not available |
| 09:22.12 | mikearthur | that too |
| 09:22.37 | hrw|work | distro? machine? |
| 09:23.00 | mikearthur | mainstone and angstrom |
| 09:24.37 | hrw|work | then angstrom distro config lack infos for mainstone |
| 09:24.45 | mikearthur | doh! |
| 09:24.54 | mikearthur | what should I be using for distro then? |
| 09:25.19 | hrw|work | koen would tell that mainstone.conf lack angstrom infos but for me it is wrong way - machine NEED to be not populated with distro crap |
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| 09:27.46 | mikearthur | whats the solution, fix my conf? |
| 09:28.55 | hrw|work | fix angstrom.conf |
| 09:39.34 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r408c253d... 10/ (1 conf/machine/akita.conf conf/machine/spitz.conf): akita/spitz.conf: dropped Angstrom stuff |
| 09:39.36 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r1448a395... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): c7x0/akita/spitz.conf: set to 2.6 kernel (not overridable) |
| 09:57.39 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rf4a6327f... 10/ (6 files in 4 dirs): machines/rootfs_ipk.bbclass: switched to IPKG_EXTRA_ARCHS like it is done in .dev |
| 09:57.52 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r38aca30e... 10/ (1 conf/bitbake.conf): bitbake.conf: one more IPKG_EXTRA_ARCHS change from .dev |
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| 09:58.08 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * raed8d275... 10/ (7 files in 2 dirs): machines.conf: switched ZKERNEL_VERSION to MACHINE_KERNEL_VERSION like in .dev |
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| 10:08.32 | hrw|work | hi koen |
| 10:09.33 | koen | hey hrw|work |
| 10:09.36 | koen | </work> |
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| 10:10.00 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rd1a0ea64... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): akita/c7x0/tosa.conf: fixed ROOT_FLASH_SIZE (from .dev) |
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| 10:13.35 | hrw|work | few steps closer to task-base |
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| 10:19.23 | koen | 11:25 < hrw|work> koen would tell that mainstone.conf lack angstrom infos but for me it is wrong way - machine NEED to be not populated with distro crap |
| 10:19.36 | koen | hrw|work: MACHINE_TASK_PROVIDER is for task-base, not for angstrom |
| 10:19.53 | koen | hrw|work: for angstrom I want the crap *out* of the machine.confs, not *in* |
| 10:20.35 | koen | so please check before stating nonsense |
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| 10:21.32 | hrw|work | ok |
| 10:22.40 | koen | hrw|work: see http://www.openembedded.org/viewmtn/revision.psp?id=8a47f06bdca56a32047a0429f5d0c3d70cdea442 |
| 10:26.52 | hrw|work | ok |
| 10:27.01 | hrw|work | I had a bit old repo here at work |
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| 11:03.24 | dtoch | Hi. Im looking for chanel of motorolafans.com. can someone help me? |
| 11:03.36 | hrw|work | #motorolafans? |
| 11:04.12 | dtoch | dont think so :) |
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| 11:55.36 | koen | "sstrip: a small utility that removes a few bytes from an executable that strip leaves behind." |
| 11:56.47 | hrw|work | koen: shlibs stuff too |
| 11:56.57 | hrw|work | ldd does not work on sstriped |
| 11:57.05 | hrw|work | and openwrt use sstrip iirc |
| 11:57.15 | koen | might be usefull for collie |
| 11:57.34 | koen | and do LDFLAGS += "--as-needed" |
| 11:57.47 | hrw|work | and rebuild feed again.... |
| 11:57.56 | suihkulokki | -OMG -funroll-loops |
| 11:58.20 | koen | -noatime |
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| 12:00.27 | pavlix | hi |
| 12:00.32 | florian_kc | hi pavlix |
| 12:01.08 | pavlix | I can't checkout a branch from openembedded |
| 12:01.25 | pavlix | mtn --db=OE.mtn checkout --branch=org.openembedded.dev |
| 12:01.25 | pavlix | mtn: branch org.openembedded.dev has multiple heads: |
| 12:01.25 | pavlix | mtn: 00a1173f52521e355938ea94e53256590de6c4c5 crofton@openembedded.org 2006-08-30T21:53:59 |
| 12:01.25 | pavlix | mtn: 370dc8d1e7ae56009af3c2640733f1c5ea39523d koen@openembedded.org 2006-08-30T22:23:03 |
| 12:01.26 | pavlix | mtn: choose one with 'mtn checkout -r<id>' |
| 12:01.26 | pavlix | mtn: error: branch org.openembedded.dev has multiple heads |
| 12:01.53 | pavlix | which do i pick up? |
| 12:02.24 | koen | your db is outdated, update it |
| 12:02.32 | koen | koen@bitbake:~/OE/monotone/org.openembedded.dev$ mtn automate heads |
| 12:02.32 | koen | 2b3ee7e3fa3c32f0e9c13a8b239149c108283295 |
| 12:02.43 | koen | that shows only one |
| 12:03.44 | hrw|work | same here |
| 12:04.20 | pavlix | wget http://openembedded.org/snapshots/OE.mtn.bz2 |
| 12:04.29 | pavlix | is this a wrong location? |
| 12:04.34 | hrw|work | pavlix: then do 'mtn pull;mtn update' too |
| 12:05.03 | pavlix | connection refused |
| 12:05.54 | koen | mtn --db=OE.mtn pull monotone.openembedded.org org.openembedded.dev |
| 12:06.49 | pavlix | koen: ok, thanks, I'm not familiar with monotone yet |
| 12:09.37 | hrw|work | "mtn --set-default --db=OE.mtn pull monotone.openembedded.org org.openembedded.dev" is better |
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| 12:31.22 | CIA-9 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * rce48c156... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): libnss-mdns: drop old versions |
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| 12:36.49 | pavlix | should I use the development branch? |
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| 12:41.29 | koen | hrw|work: fwiw, the angstrom stuff you dropped from z machines in .oz354x wasn't really angstrom stuff, but coredumps task-essential-to-boot |
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| 12:49.10 | pavlix | how can I use the org.embedded.dev/conf/*/*.conf files? |
| 12:49.27 | pavlix | they look like very small parts of configuration |
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| 12:59.24 | hrw|work | cr |
| 12:59.43 | hrw|work | koen: maybe - but it was marked as angstrom one |
| 13:00.24 | koen | I noticed that |
| 13:00.31 | koen | dunno why coredump did that |
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| 13:00.46 | hrw|work | me too |
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| 13:01.50 | Crofton | bigd0g, any luck? |
| 13:02.03 | koen | hey Crofton |
| 13:02.28 | bigd0g | Crofton: hiya. haven't had time to play with it yet. been doing other documentation work, unfortunately |
| 13:02.36 | Crofton | ok |
| 13:02.41 | bigd0g | i have to leave soon to go to Belfast... but my goal is to play with it on Monday |
| 13:02.42 | Crofton | I am in a very damp field |
| 13:02.47 | Crofton | ok |
| 13:02.48 | bigd0g | so i'll have a report for you on Tues |
| 13:02.56 | mikearthur | did a rebuild of oe |
| 13:02.56 | Crofton | Monday I won't be online |
| 13:02.59 | bigd0g | how's the damp field party going? :) |
| 13:03.02 | mikearthur | NOTE: package glibc-2.4: completed |
| 13:03.02 | mikearthur | ERROR: Nothing provides dependency ${MACHINE_TASK_PROVIDER} |
| 13:03.02 | mikearthur | ERROR: dependency ${MACHINE_TASK_PROVIDER} (for gpe-image) not satisfied |
| 13:03.03 | mikearthur | NOTE: no buildable providers for gpe-image |
| 13:03.29 | mikearthur | MACHINE = "mainstone" |
| 13:03.29 | mikearthur | DISTRO = "angstrom" |
| 13:03.36 | bigd0g | Crofton: that's ok. i have other things to be working on, but i do want to see how far i can get with what i've built |
| 13:03.45 | Crofton | cool |
| 13:03.45 | bigd0g | like i said... i'll report on Tues when you're back around |
| 13:03.49 | koen | DISTRO=angstrom-2007.1 |
| 13:04.19 | mikearthur | koen: yep |
| 13:04.40 | koen | mikearthur: and you're positively using the right branch> |
| 13:04.41 | koen | ? |
| 13:04.49 | mikearthur | org.openembedded.dev |
| 13:05.24 | koen | koen@bitbake:~/OE/monotone/org.openembedded.dev$ grep TASK conf/bitbake.conf |
| 13:05.24 | koen | MACHINE_TASK_PROVIDER ?= "task-bootstrap" |
| 13:05.32 | koen | that's why I ask :) |
| 13:05.51 | mikearthur | doh |
| 13:05.54 | mikearthur | thats the problem |
| 13:05.57 | mikearthur | can't remember why |
| 13:06.05 | mikearthur | but I had a bitbake.conf in my build/conf |
| 13:06.10 | mikearthur | bet it works now :D |
| 13:06.56 | mikearthur | ~hail koen |
| 13:07.02 | ibot | ACTION bows down to koen and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 13:07.02 | CIA-9 | 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r8bfdfaf4... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): busybox: Fixup missing option in slugos busybox defconfig. Bump PR |
| 13:07.44 | mikearthur | (it worked) |
| 13:08.17 | koen | if it spits out 'bla ${FOO}' it means that ${FOO} isn't initialized |
| 13:08.52 | hrw|work | koen: how goes ooo build? |
| 13:08.54 | mikearthur | cheers :D |
| 13:09.03 | mikearthur | haha koen I heard about your crazy ooo build |
| 13:09.13 | koen | hrw|work: I'm compiling Compress::Zlib for perl now |
| 13:09.16 | mikearthur | it takes over 6 hours on my amd64 |
| 13:09.50 | hrw|work | koen: OE lack it? |
| 13:09.51 | koen | mikearthur: your AMD64 doesn't have the OMGWTFBBQ xscale |
| 13:10.11 | mikearthur | koen: so it'll be done in under 6 hours then ;) |
| 13:10.12 | hrw|work | BBQ? |
| 13:10.13 | koen | hrw|work: I don't have an OZ buildtree AND OE lacks it |
| 13:10.33 | koen | BarBeQue |
| 13:10.45 | koen | charred meat, hot lettuce, etc |
| 13:11.24 | pavlix | hmm, I run bitbake...... and it only spits out lots of errors to me |
| 13:11.59 | NAiL | yeah, that's what bitbake is meant to do :-P |
| 13:12.09 | pavlix | so... no success yet |
| 13:12.14 | pavlix | NAiL: :-) |
| 13:16.11 | pavlix | what shlould be put in bitbake.conf? |
| 13:16.40 | koen | pavlix: nothing, leave it as it is |
| 13:16.55 | pavlix | koen: should I copy it to conf? |
| 13:17.19 | koen | pavlix: no |
| 13:17.23 | koen | see http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted |
| 13:17.55 | pavlix | koen: yes, I'm reading it |
| 13:18.22 | koen | search for 'local.conf' |
| 13:19.22 | pavlix | koen: I see, local.conf |
| 13:19.47 | psokolovsky_ | Hi! |
| 13:19.50 | pavlix | koen: and I configured it to my best understanding |
| 13:19.56 | psokolovsky_ | pavlix: you do stuff for wl500g, right? |
| 13:20.14 | pavlix | psokolovsky_: I'm just starting, with no success, yet |
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| 13:20.35 | psokolovsky_ | pavlix: ok, keep us posted ;-) |
| 13:20.58 | pavlix | psokolovsky_: actually, I am not yet able to get openembedded working |
| 13:21.42 | pavlix | psokolovsky_: stopped in the "Create local configuration" section.... tried to do my best, |
| 13:23.16 | pavlix | hmm, now bitbake runs |
| 13:23.20 | psokolovsky_ | pavlix: It's not going to work in 30mins, but one can conquer it. |
| 13:23.54 | pavlix | psokolovsky_: I'm not in hurry, I've got this device and started examining a month ago |
| 13:24.15 | pavlix | psokolovsky_: I've been out for holiday most of the time, though |
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| 13:24.38 | psokolovsky_ | pavlix: but you should be prepared to serious hacking. Anyway, all kind *slug* distros live in OE, so asus can do too. I'd be interested in wl500g bitbaking in future too ;-) |
| 13:25.19 | pavlix | how do I get a list of packages I can install? |
| 13:25.40 | pavlix | psokolovsky_: good, what do you mean by serious hacking? |
| 13:25.42 | bigd0g | have a geat weekend, guys. be back on monday |
| 13:26.57 | psokolovsky_ | pavlix: I mean, while there're asus-releated configs in OE, it may happen that noone used it for some time, and it bit-rotted a bit. |
| 13:27.49 | pavlix | there are asus-related configs? I haven't find a way to use them in any docs |
| 13:28.11 | pavlix | maybe by putting some settings in the config and omitting other? |
| 13:30.37 | pavlix | it seems like the configuration docs are missing |
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| 13:46.17 | pavlix | I always end up with..... |
| 13:46.38 | pavlix | bitbake nano |
| 13:46.38 | pavlix | NOTE: Using cache in '/home/pavlix/oe/tmp/cache' |
| 13:46.38 | pavlix | ERROR: no files to build. |
| 13:46.38 | pavlix | NOTE: Parsing finished. 0 cached, 0 parsed, 0 skipped, 0 masked. |
| 13:46.38 | pavlix | ERROR: Nothing provides dependency nano |
| 13:47.27 | Laibsch | koen: How did you create that map of the OE devs? Where can I read more about creating such a map? |
| 13:47.35 | psokolovsky_ | pavlix: read about setting BBPATH in env and BBFILES in local.conf |
| 13:47.42 | koen | Laibsch: google maps |
| 13:47.56 | pavlix | echo $BBPATH |
| 13:47.56 | pavlix | /home/pavlix/oe/build:/home/pavlix/oe/org.openembedded.dev |
| 13:48.50 | psokolovsky_ | pavlix: nice. now go for BBFILES |
| 13:49.25 | koen | Laibsch: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/maps/OE.phps and http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/maps/OE.coords |
| 13:50.09 | pavlix | psokolovsky_: tryied BBFILES="/home/pavlix/oe/org.openembedded.dev/*/*.bb" |
| 13:50.26 | Laibsch | thanks koen |
| 13:51.14 | psokolovsky_ | pavlix: BBFILES = "/home/pfalcon/linux-ppc/org.openembedded.dev/packages/*/*.bb" |
| 13:51.39 | pavlix | psokolovsky_: thanks, that looks like the mistake |
| 13:53.10 | hrw|work | RP, do13: how do you think - can we release 2.6.17 current for users? |
| 13:53.57 | pavlix | psokolovsky_: no success, still |
| 13:54.45 | pavlix | psokolovsky_: what do I need to have in local.conf to just succed one package build for any platform? |
| 13:55.42 | psokolovsky_ | pavlix: proper specification of target platform and machine, and there must be good working definitions for them |
| 13:56.16 | pavlix | psokolovsky_: you have some working example? |
| 13:56.30 | pavlix | psokolovsky_: it's just very hard to start when i' |
| 13:56.36 | psokolovsky_ | pavlix: not for asus |
| 13:56.41 | pavlix | when I haven't seen anything working |
| 13:56.47 | pavlix | psokolovsky_: no need for asus, just any |
| 13:57.20 | psokolovsky_ | pavlix: yes, I'm building ansgtrom distro for h4000. |
| 13:57.59 | pavlix | psokolovsky_: ok, could you tell me what to put in local.conf? |
| 13:58.29 | psokolovsky_ | pavlix: not in 10 words, obviously ;-) |
| 13:58.46 | pavlix | koen: yes, I've seen it there too |
| 13:59.01 | psokolovsky_ | pavlix: drop a url where I can paste mine |
| 13:59.29 | koen | try MACHINE="wl500g" and DISTRO="generic-unstable" |
| 14:00.07 | pavlix | koen: I'd first like to see *something* working :-) |
| 14:00.13 | pavlix | psokolovsky_: you can send it by e-mail.... |
| 14:00.17 | RP | hrw|work: I'd say yes. |
| 14:00.48 | hrw|work | then I will ship 3.5.4.2-rc2 for tosa/poodle and bootstrap only for collie |
| 14:00.48 | psokolovsky_ | pavlix: http://pastebin.com/781313 |
| 14:00.55 | pavlix | psokolovsky_: ok |
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| 14:02.44 | ade|desk | howdy folks, whats happend in the last couple of weeks i've been on hols |
| 14:03.04 | koen | ade|desk: we all got rich and retired |
| 14:03.36 | ade|desk | damnit i knew when my back was turned you would all win something great |
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| 14:06.02 | pavlix | psokolovsky_: and... can you build nano? I can't |
| 14:07.32 | pavlix | but I might miss some stuff like compilers and so.... couldn't i? |
| 14:08.04 | koen | no, OE builds those for you |
| 14:08.34 | pavlix | then I really don't know where's the problem |
| 14:09.01 | koen | could you pastebin the output of 'bitbake nano' ? |
| 14:10.42 | pavlix | koen: I was going to... |
| 14:10.45 | pavlix | but.... finally it works |
| 14:10.52 | pavlix | ooof |
| 14:11.26 | pavlix | i screwed something up when I was trying to get it worked.... |
| 14:12.18 | pavlix | conf dir wasn't at the right place.... |
| 14:12.56 | psokolovsky_ | pavlix: lol. suspected that. every beginner should start with find's output of their setup ;-) |
| 14:13.15 | pavlix | ok, thanks for your patience |
| 14:13.20 | pavlix | psokolovsky_: very true :-) |
| 14:14.29 | pavlix | so... now you can count me as OpenEmbedded user |
| 14:15.30 | psokolovsky_ | pavlix: anyway, watch it. it can easily pull few gigs of traffic ;-). for wl500g, you likely won't need to let it build crosstoolchain for you, but use preexisting. |
| 14:16.44 | hvontres|poodle | RP: Good Morning. Do you know if threre are any plans to re-implement the "Cancel" key for suspending on Poodle under 2.6? |
| 14:17.39 | RP | hvontres|poodle: Its just a kernel keyboard driver issue |
| 14:18.07 | RP | hvontres|poodle: If I remember next time I'm fiddling with the poodle kerenel, I can fix that |
| 14:19.34 | RP | hvontres|poodle: Basically, EV_PWR handling needs adding to locomokbd.c |
| 14:19.47 | pavlix | psokolovsky_: ok, I'll research, i might also put oe on its own partition |
| 14:20.21 | hvontres|poodle | RP: Thank you very much. Of course after living with the 2.4 crappix kernel under 3.5.4 I kinda got used to using the menu... plus I keep forgetting about the cool "supend on battery switch" feature :) |
| 14:20.26 | pavlix | anyway, thanks for the --debug switch on bitbake :-D |
| 14:21.51 | RP | The suspend on battery switch is a bit evil to the system as its an emergency suspend and userspace isn't consulted |
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| 14:31.26 | pavlix | bye for now, will play with it later, and thanks again |
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| 16:37.06 | CIA-9 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r4d41dd00... 10/ (1 packages/freeciv/freeciv_2.0.8.bb): freeciv: Add proper SECTION definition. |
| 16:44.57 | CIA-9 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r5eeb3f8c... 10/ (1 packages/gpe-soundbite/gpe-soundbite_1.0.6.bb): gpe-soundbite: Adjust SECTION to gpe/multimedia. |
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| 16:52.35 | psokolovsky_ | ^^^^: just had a look at http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/repo.php ;-) |
| 16:54.32 | koen | that really shows the weird sections |
| 16:55.19 | psokolovsky_ | koen: ?, you mean it's nice tool to spot wrong sections? |
| 16:55.43 | CIA-9 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r5cae3db5... 10/ (1 packages/xdemineur/xdemineur_2.1.1.bb): xdemineur: Adjust SECTION to gpe/games. |
| 16:55.51 | CIA-9 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rde57dbbe... 10/ (1 packages/gpe-othello/gpe-othello_0.2-1.bb): gpe-othello: Adjust SECTION to gpe/games. |
| 16:56.01 | CIA-9 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r934275f4... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): gpe-lights: Adjust SECTION to gpe/games. |
| 16:56.04 | koen | psokolovsky_: yes |
| 16:56.06 | CIA-9 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * re2baa8dc... 10/ (1 packages/gpe-life/gpe-life_0.2.bb): gpe-life: Adjust SECTION to gpe/games. |
| 16:57.04 | psokolovsky_ | koen: Also, does *-dbg packages really belong to teh SECTION where main package goes? Wouldn't it be better to add own "debug" section for them? |
| 16:57.29 | koen | psokolovsky_: I think they should be in a seperate section, yes |
| 16:57.36 | psokolovsky_ | ok |
| 16:58.46 | psokolovsky_ | koen: Last note, there's a "games" section, search for freedoom. Not sure what it means - does it run on raw fb? ;-) Anyway, that scetion is not in left nav. |
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| 17:01.06 | koen | maemo_blog segfaults on sardine :( |
| 17:01.55 | koen | and from our good friend pippin: "perhaps I should take the time to install a scratchbox again, |
| 17:01.56 | koen | and compile one for the 2006 revision of the 770 as well." |
| 17:02.08 | koen | grrr |
| 17:02.14 | koen | stupid irc client windows |
| 17:08.07 | Genesis | a+ |
| 17:08.36 | CIA-9 | 03erik 07org.oe.dev * rd108f37a... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Provides the latest hh.org 2.4 kernel for strongarm based handhelds. |
| 17:08.42 | CIA-9 | 03erik 07org.oe.dev * r73327fd8... 10/ (1 packages/gpe-package/gpe-package_0.3.bb): |
| 17:08.42 | CIA-9 | gpe-package: Make minor tweaks associated to familiar 0.8.4 release |
| 17:08.42 | CIA-9 | * Use variables instead of hard coded directory paths |
| 17:08.42 | CIA-9 | * Rework DEPENDS and RDEPENDS |
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| 17:26.15 | CIA-9 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r76da3d98... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 17:26.15 | CIA-9 | abiword, abiword-plugins: Add SECTION = "gnome" (or should this be "gpe"? |
| 17:26.15 | CIA-9 | I guess, no, until it is patched to support GPE/handhelds better). |
| 17:26.45 | koen | psokolovsky_: abiword isn't part of gnome |
| 17:27.06 | koen | x11/office or office/wordproccessing would make make sense |
| 17:27.26 | koen | or gnome/office |
| 17:27.26 | psokolovsky_ | koen: but it uses few gnome libs and called to be in gnome-office appsuite? |
| 17:28.08 | koen | I think you can buld a pure gtk+ abiword |
| 17:28.19 | koen | but yes, it's called to be in gnome-office |
| 17:28.22 | psokolovsky_ | koen: gnome/office sounds better, imho, just didn't want to create extra section, while we cleanup them actually. |
| 17:28.47 | psokolovsky_ | koen: Maybe gnome/apps, to not create thin sections for now? |
| 17:29.03 | koen | sections should make sense :) |
| 17:29.17 | koen | not the 'sections because of sections' attitude we have now |
| 17:30.36 | koen | if I'm searching for a wordprocessor I should be able to click on a section that relates to that |
| 17:30.49 | psokolovsky_ | koen: just worry there's no any "office" section in the list now. occam's razor ;-) |
| 17:30.51 | koen | 'office' 'wordprocessor' 'editor', etc |
| 17:31.02 | psokolovsky_ | koen: ok, changing to office |
| 17:31.12 | koen | our current SECTIONS are a mes |
| 17:31.14 | koen | s |
| 17:32.11 | XorA|gone | SECTIONS is a dumb idea, TAGS would be smarter :-) |
| 17:34.40 | psokolovsky_ | XorA|gone: Hierarchial preferrably, not flat like Google offers ;-) |
| 17:36.07 | XorA|gone | psokolovsky_: possible, but sections is always going to fall down, mplayer is a prime example, it can run under x11,console,sdl,directfb and does music,video,tvcards and no simple SECTION ever represents that |
| 17:37.48 | psokolovsky_ | XorA|gone: agree, but we have what we have, and even these simple section require some effort to maintain. Once we have that perfect, can consider moving to something more advanced ;-) |
| 17:39.01 | koen | something like debtags? |
| 17:39.49 | CIA-9 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rf881e56a... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): abiword, abiword-plugins: Setting new SECTION="gnome/office", suggested by Koen Kooi. |
| 17:41.19 | koen | XorA|gone: or all the stuff imported from the OZ-buildroot that has 'opie/' prepended to each section |
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| 18:01.38 | florian | re |
| 18:02.56 | psokolovsky_ | Hi! |
| 18:14.18 | YoG | hi hrw |
| 18:14.21 | hrw | psokolovsky_: we had a list of sections recently on OE list |
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| 18:18.50 | psokolovsky_ | hrw: Yeah, I made those changes with idea to make SECTION work better in mind, after that discussion. But was the list posted final? As you can see, real-world situations require more choices. For example, what's your recomendation to abiword? |
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| 18:21.24 | hrw | someone heard/cr |
| 18:21.25 | hrw | ops |
| 18:21.36 | hrw | gnome/office is ok |
| 18:22.01 | hrw | someone heard about 'softgun' ARM emulator? |
| 18:22.07 | hrw | Softgun is an ARM system emulator intended to emulate complete embedded Systems. Currently three boards with â–’ |
| 18:22.10 | hrw | Netsilicon NS9750 or NS9360 and Freescale i.MX21 and some additional components on PCI and I2C bus are supported. â–’ |
| 18:22.13 | hrw | Features include ARM926-ejs 32Bit instruction set with DSP extensions, little-endian and big-endian CPU modes, MMU â–’ |
| 18:22.16 | hrw | with 3-entry TLB, serial ports and ethernet controller. |
| 18:22.22 | hrw | recentrly added into debian |
| 18:23.45 | psokolovsky_ | ARM926-ejs 32Bit Instruction Set with DSP Extensions. Speed is 21 MHz per Intel GHz. Thumb and Jazelle are missing |
| 18:24.56 | psokolovsky_ | cool, so that'll be 50MHz ARM on a common system. not convincing to even try after qemu, imho |
| 18:25.22 | hrw|tv | 40MHz here |
| 18:25.29 | hrw|tv | ibot: 1.8 * 21 |
| 18:25.30 | ibot | 37.8 |
| 18:26.21 | koen | linux 2.6.17 uses thumb instructions for indirect function calls |
| 18:26.33 | koen | or 2.6.18, I forget which |
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| 18:29.56 | CIA-9 | busybox 1.00: Incorporate fixes from familiar 0.8.4 release |
| 18:29.56 | CIA-9 | * Add --oknodo argument to start-stop-daemon |
| 18:29.56 | CIA-9 | * df fixes |
| 18:29.56 | CIA-9 | * unzip and libuncompress fixes backported from 1.1.0 |
| 18:29.56 | CIA-9 | * bump rev to r37 since familiar 0.8.4 shipped with r36 |
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| 18:30.02 | CIA-9 | familiar unstable: Peg glibc and busybox |
| 18:30.04 | CIA-9 | h3600 unstable: Peg handhelds-sa kernel version to hh42 |
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| 18:32.57 | hrw|tv | hmm.. nice addons for busybox |
| 18:35.08 | koen | I'm very happy Erik is working on familiar in .dev |
| 18:35.46 | hrw|tv | me too |
| 18:36.08 | koen | gna |
| 18:36.20 | koen | OOo thinks it's crosscompiling since I'm passing --host |
| 18:36.34 | florian | heh |
| 18:36.41 | koen | and without --host is will use '2.0.3.0' as param |
| 18:44.15 | hrw|tv | 1.9G free on ewi ;( |
| 18:44.32 | hrw|tv | have to check how much /home/hrw use ;) |
| 18:46.29 | koen | ~lart python |
| 18:46.37 | koen | http://perkypants.org/blog/2006/09/02/rfte-python/ <- stupid python |
| 18:46.54 | hrw|tv | back to tv |
| 18:47.19 | koen | good thing we don't have to much python stuff running in our images |
| 18:47.22 | koen | bye, bye battery life |
| 18:50.02 | mreimer | koen|away: someone left a comment saying that the wakeup only affects pyGobjects, not the interpreter itself |
| 18:50.10 | mreimer | but still... |
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| 18:51.10 | psokolovsky_ | koen: yep, who knows, maybe it's readline what wakes up, lol. but good someone keeps an eye that. |
| 18:51.37 | mreimer | are there any pxa27x_udc users here? |
| 18:51.45 | pavlix | by for now |
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| 18:52.21 | koen | mreimer: aye |
| 18:52.35 | koen | OOo wants perl *AND* python |
| 18:53.13 | mreimer | koen|away: I think OOo builds a python binding to UNO; I don't know if it's used for more. Maybe you can --disable-python-binding or whatever it's called? |
| 18:54.04 | mreimer | koen: I'm seeing a pxa27x_udc crash: load g_ether, unload it, suspend, resume -> crash. But if I reload g_ether before suspending, it doesn't crash |
| 18:54.21 | mreimer | koen: have you seen this crash? |
| 18:54.31 | koen | I'm having problems with it as well |
| 18:54.51 | koen | drivers* |
| 18:55.19 | koen | mreimer: this stage of OOo only accepts '--with-system-python' |
| 18:55.40 | mreimer | koen: bummer about python |
| 18:57.08 | koen | I'm starting to dislike granular packaging |
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| 19:04.26 | mreimer | looks like somebody forgot to merge before committing to .dev |
| 19:04.37 | koen | or after :) |
| 19:04.54 | cyrilRomain | hi all ! |
| 19:05.00 | koen | 'mtn merge ; mtn sync' and you'll solve it for all of us :) |
| 19:05.03 | koen | hey cyrilRomain |
| 19:05.17 | cyrilRomain | hey koen |
| 19:06.04 | mreimer | koen: oh, anyone can merge? ok |
| 19:06.46 | koen | mreimer: and mtn will accept if multiple people to the same merge and sync |
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| 19:07.02 | koen | that will just append more certs to that revision |
| 19:07.06 | mreimer | neat |
| 19:13.38 | mreimer | koen, pH5, is this what your X shm problem looks like? http://handhelds.org/scap/port.3453.png |
| 19:14.29 | mreimer | bbiab |
| 19:15.23 | koen | mreimer: I'm saying a black rectangle where the menu should be or random distortion of that area ('funky colours') |
| 19:15.53 | koen | s/saying/seeing/ |
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| 19:19.14 | hrw|tv | multimachine builds take space... |
| 19:20.46 | hrw|tv | ~lart wlan-ng |
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| 19:22.18 | sirfred | Hello |
| 19:22.25 | koen | hey sirfred |
| 19:22.37 | draggho | hey |
| 19:22.42 | draggho | is hrw around? |
| 19:22.56 | koen | hey draggho |
| 19:22.58 | koen | ~seen hrw |
| 19:23.27 | ibot | hrw <n=hrw@ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 1h 1m 5s ago, saying: 'recentrly added into debian'. |
| 19:23.27 | sirfred | koen: Hello. |
| 19:23.27 | draggho | thanks |
| 19:23.27 | hrw|tv | draggho: watching Sopot on tvn |
| 19:23.27 | hrw|tv | so I go.. |
| 19:23.44 | draggho | ok |
| 19:24.01 | draggho | Sopot? is that worth watching |
| 19:24.07 | draggho | don't think so |
| 19:24.13 | draggho | ;) |
| 19:24.32 | draggho | ok, talk to you tmrw, btw: I'm alsa known as zen |
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| 19:29.23 | hrw|tv | draggho: my tvcard is mono but its good thing for evening |
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| 20:25.47 | hrw|tv | ~change 40000 pln to gbp |
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| 20:32.03 | mreimer | does anyone here use gtk+-2.10.1? is it stable? |
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| 20:32.23 | koen | stable, but slow and big |
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| 20:32.51 | mreimer | than 2.8? |
| 20:33.00 | mreimer | I'm wondering if 2.8.16 is the cause of my problems |
| 20:33.11 | mreimer | so whether to go to 2.8.9 or 2.10.1 |
| 20:34.30 | koen | 2.6.x is still the fastest gtk if you use nwfpe |
| 20:35.02 | mreimer | I'm running a softfloat .dev, by adding TARGET_FPU = "softfloat" to my local.conf. Is that the right way to do it? |
| 20:35.23 | koen | TARGET_FPU is either "soft" or "" |
| 20:35.32 | koen | with softfloat I'd advice 2.8.x |
| 20:35.46 | mreimer | uh, oops, I do have "soft" |
| 20:35.54 | koen | fixes some bugs in theme engines (the abiword crash) |
| 20:35.58 | mreimer | no problems with 2.8.16? |
| 20:36.06 | mreimer | glad to hear that old bug is fixed |
| 20:36.36 | koen | 2.8.16 is missing some patches |
| 20:36.45 | koen | I'm using 2.8.9 |
| 20:36.48 | mreimer | I'll roll back then |
| 20:37.07 | mreimer | I was having a problem with 2.8.9 where tapping on a directory in the file selector would cause a segv; 2.8.16 seemed to fix it |
| 20:37.22 | mreimer | is the problem with 2.8.16 that some of the 2.8.9 patches need to be redone for .16? |
| 20:37.23 | koen | you could also forward port the patches |
| 20:37.28 | mreimer | ok, I'll take a look at it |
| 20:37.35 | koen | exactly that :) |
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| 20:41.27 | CosmicPenguin | no systemtap package? |
| 20:41.31 | CosmicPenguin | seesh |
| 20:41.54 | koen | CosmicPenguin: yes we are a bunch of slackers |
| 20:42.01 | CosmicPenguin | i haven't even been bothering you |
| 20:42.18 | woglinde | hi |
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| 20:43.34 | koen | hey woglinde |
| 20:43.38 | koen | CosmicPenguin: :) |
| 20:43.47 | woglinde | I was with zecke at the ifa |
| 20:44.04 | woglinde | testing the ROAD device |
| 20:49.00 | hrw|gone | bye |
| 20:49.23 | woglinde | bye hrw |
| 20:52.12 | mreimer | koen: my problem was fixed by dropping back to cairo-1.2.2 from 1.2.4 |
| 20:52.23 | koen | hmmm |
| 20:52.40 | mreimer | I'll still check into the 2.8.16 patches |
| 20:52.42 | koen | 1.2.4 should be better, since it has the floating speed up |
| 20:52.47 | mreimer | yeah, that's what I thought |
| 20:53.01 | mreimer | I'll see about backporting that patch to 1.2.2 |
| 20:53.28 | mreimer | btw cairo is finally getting perf love. the next couple of months should be good |
| 20:54.46 | koen | yeah |
| 20:57.00 | mreimer | koen: all the commented-out patches for 2.8.16 seem to apply fine. do you know why they're commented out? |
| 20:57.15 | mreimer | maybe they don't apply in order? |
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| 20:58.48 | NAiL | </aol> |
| 20:59.11 | koen | "bitbake, raising the bar" |
| 20:59.50 | koen | mreimer: you'll love mtn 0.30 |
| 21:00.02 | mreimer | koen: faster? shinier? blinkenlights? |
| 21:00.13 | koen | 40% speed improvement on pull and faster commits |
| 21:00.17 | mreimer | wow |
| 21:00.19 | NAiL | ooh |
| 21:00.20 | NAiL | neato |
| 21:00.53 | koen | and the monotone people have a huge test repo to profile on: a cvs import of the netbsd pkgsrc |
| 21:00.58 | koen | ~180k revs |
| 21:01.01 | mreimer | that would do it |
| 21:01.27 | mreimer | is there an mtn command to show the log history of a specified file (rather than the whole repo)? |
| 21:01.35 | mreimer | like cvs log, or cvs annotate |
| 21:01.46 | mreimer | I'd like to figure out who to ask about gtk+-2.8.16 |
| 21:02.01 | koen | mreimer: mtn log <file> |
| 21:02.16 | koen | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:02.24 | mreimer | ah, that's it. thanks |
| 21:02.38 | koen | that had a bug in .28 |
| 21:02.47 | florian | koen: hmm 180k revisions is impressive... GPE has ~8.5k |
| 21:02.54 | hvontres1poodle | mreimer: which bitbake are you using, 1.6.x or the bleeding edge one? |
| 21:02.56 | mreimer | hi florian |
| 21:03.00 | florian | hi mreimer |
| 21:03.17 | koen | mreimer: http://zecke.blogspot.com/2006/08/eabi-on-osxdarwin.html |
| 21:03.35 | mreimer | hvontres1poodle: I'm using 1.6.0 |
| 21:04.00 | hvontres1poodle | hmmm, I guess it's time to upgrade from 1.4.4 then :) |
| 21:04.40 | koen | mreimer: is cpufreq safe to use on h2200? |
| 21:04.47 | mreimer | koen: that's good news about EABI on OSX |
| 21:04.55 | mreimer | koen: not yet |
| 21:04.56 | koen | mreimer: my ts suddenly went bezerk |
| 21:05.00 | mreimer | koen: yep |
| 21:05.19 | mreimer | koen: all the hamcop-dependent drivers needs to be taught how to reconfig themselves after a frequency change |
| 21:05.23 | koen | it does save power |
| 21:05.46 | mreimer | koen: yeah, I hope to get to that some day. In the meantime, you might be able to get it to work by hacking cpufreq not to change MCLK |
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| 21:05.50 | mreimer | so just use other frequencies |
| 21:08.10 | mreimer | grr, mtn 0.28 |
| 21:13.07 | mreimer | funny, my h2200 seems snappier than my hx4700 |
| 21:13.21 | mreimer | maybe it's because of the screen size, more work to do to render |
| 21:13.22 | koen | smaller, faster screen |
| 21:13.39 | XorA|gone | mreimer: what problem you have with cairo? |
| 21:13.41 | mreimer | for some reason ipkg seems to run way faster on my h2200 than my hx4700 |
| 21:13.58 | koen | mreimer: I have the reverse |
| 21:14.05 | mreimer | XorA|gone: 1.2.4 renders this: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.3453.png |
| 21:14.08 | koen | ipkg is ~2x faster |
| 21:14.22 | mreimer | koen: hmm |
| 21:14.34 | XorA|gone | mreimer: ahah, that looks like problem I am seeing |
| 21:14.35 | mreimer | my h2200 now has a clean install; I wonder if that has anything to do with it? |
| 21:14.43 | mreimer | XorA|gone: try downgrading to 1.2.2 |
| 21:14.54 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rf29ad4e7... 10/ (1 packages/linux/handhelds-pxa-2.6_2.6.16-hh6.bb): hh-pxa 2.6.16hh6: add it |
| 21:15.07 | koen | mreimer: the hx have 2x faster access to ram |
| 21:15.24 | mreimer | koen: yeah, that should help a lot |
| 21:15.53 | XorA|gone | mreimer: I just about to |
| 21:15.57 | mreimer | I ran one of the benchmarks in oe like dhrystone or whatever, and surprisingly the hx was only about 11% faster |
| 21:16.11 | mreimer | but I suppose that benchmark doesn't do much memory access |
| 21:16.21 | XorA|gone | mreimer: I had thought it was the w100 driver causing those problems, didnt realise a cairo update sneaked in |
| 21:16.27 | koen | mreimer: pxa270 is 100% intel marketing |
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| 21:16.58 | mreimer | :-) |
| 21:17.07 | koen | hey pH5 |
| 21:17.13 | mreimer | hi pH5 |
| 21:17.17 | pH5 | hey everyone |
| 21:19.26 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r0ec93aac... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf): angstrom: prefer hhpxa 2.6.16hh6 |
| 21:19.30 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r05a3705b... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf): angstrom: zaprootpw happens automagically now |
| 21:22.10 | XorA|gone | mreimer: cheers for that, my screen is now sensible :-) |
| 21:22.17 | mreimer | XorA|gone: great |
| 21:22.50 | XorA|gone | koen: fix that in angstrom.conf :-) |
| 21:23.54 | mreimer | koen: gtk+-2.8.16 with all patches works for me. should I go ahead and commit the .bb with all the patches activated? |
| 21:24.02 | koen | yes please |
| 21:24.46 | mreimer | koen: what about +PREFERRED_PROVIDER_dbus-glib = "dbus-glib" in familiar-unstable.conf? |
| 21:24.51 | mreimer | fixed my gpe-image build |
| 21:25.01 | XorA|gone | koen: with w100 driver, drag scroll in epdfview is usable |
| 21:25.58 | pH5 | hi XorA|gone, do you know anything about the shm issues we see with kdrive in eabi userspace images? |
| 21:26.27 | XorA|gone | pH5: no, I see same problem with loadkeys binary as well |
| 21:27.02 | XorA|gone | pH5: and last update to angstrom totally killed my image, nothing was working, I am waiting until I start new job then I buy another Z, one for using, one for Angstrom |
| 21:28.43 | koen | XorA|gone: and one for lrg to play with? |
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| 21:29.13 | XorA|gone | koen: hes getting a poodle I think |
| 21:29.42 | koen | can poodle survice the biting scottish cold? |
| 21:29.44 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rd777583c... 10/ (1 packages/cairo/cairo_1.2.4.bb): cairo 1.2.4: libx11 -> virtual/libx11 |
| 21:29.49 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rb27f0548... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf): angstrom: prefer cairo 1.2.2 |
| 21:29.50 | pH5 | hehe |
| 21:29.55 | pH5 | I don't even understand shm when it works, let alone when it's broken |
| 21:30.18 | pH5 | btw, where is that w100 driver? could it work with w3220, too? |
| 21:30.19 | XorA|gone | koen: time those foreign softies learned :-) |
| 21:30.47 | XorA|gone | pH5: I had to alter it for X11R7.1, I can tar it up for you |
| 21:31.00 | mreimer | pH5: basically the idea of shm is that multiple processes can share a chunk of memory. it can give good speed-ups because the data doesn't need to be copied around since it is visible to those processes |
| 21:31.11 | XorA|gone | pH5: I had planned to commit it, but I thought the cairo breakage was the w100 driver |
| 21:31.22 | pH5 | XorA|gone: that would be great, I'd really like to try it |
| 21:32.50 | XorA|gone | pH5: http://hyboria.mine.nu/w100.tar.gz |
| 21:33.03 | mreimer | XorA|gone: have you been hacking the w100 driver? |
| 21:33.03 | pH5 | mreimer, XorA|gone: thanks. |
| 21:33.07 | XorA|gone | pH5: you need to add it to configure.ac and hw/kdrive/Makefile.am |
| 21:33.12 | mreimer | pH5: np |
| 21:33.28 | XorA|gone | mreimer: no, I just took Mardies and ported it onto X11R7.1 |
| 21:33.28 | mreimer | pH5: have you had a chance to try -use-evdev? I haven't had a chance to get it working |
| 21:33.29 | CIA-9 | 03mreimer 07org.oe.dev * rd609a6e9... 10/ (1 packages/gtk+/gtk+_2.8.16.bb): |
| 21:33.29 | CIA-9 | gtk+ 2.8.16: Activate all the patches used in previous versions. For some |
| 21:33.29 | CIA-9 | reason several were commented out, but they apply and compile cleanly, |
| 21:33.29 | CIA-9 | so I've re-enabled them. |
| 21:33.30 | koen | mreimer: libw100.sf.net is done by sirfred |
| 21:33.37 | CIA-9 | 03mreimer 07org.oe.dev * rb0b77e51... 10/ (1 conf/distro/familiar-unstable.conf): |
| 21:33.37 | CIA-9 | familiar-unstable.conf: Specify a provider for dbus-glib, so it doesn't try |
| 21:33.37 | CIA-9 | to pull in a second, older version of dbus. |
| 21:33.57 | mreimer | XorA|gone: ah, you've made a w100 xserver. nice |
| 21:34.03 | pH5 | mreimer: me neither, I just came home |
| 21:34.47 | XorA|gone | mreimer: no, I just altered it for a later X, Mardy wrote it |
| 21:35.02 | XorA|gone | pH5: excuse my junk in that tarball |
| 21:35.19 | mreimer | XorA|gone: has he added more acceleration than the w100 fb driver has? |
| 21:35.57 | pH5 | XorA|gone: hey, it's even precompiled ;) |
| 21:36.06 | XorA|gone | pH5: but not libtooled |
| 21:36.17 | pH5 | XorA|gone: np :) |
| 21:36.37 | XorA|gone | mreimer: bitblt and fill I think, X doesnt use fbdev accels |
| 21:37.02 | mreimer | XorA|gone: so same as the fb version |
| 21:37.27 | koen | s/is/if/ |
| 21:37.41 | XorA|gone | ~seen mardy |
| 21:38.13 | ibot | mardy is currently on #oe #openzaurus, last said: 'rob_w: ping'. |
| 21:38.13 | mreimer | koen, I thought you changed the default gpe-login screen not to be that blue/aquamarine color? |
| 21:38.35 | XorA|gone | ~seen sirfred |
| 21:38.38 | ibot | sirfred is currently on #oe (1h 15m 18s), last said: 'koen: Hello.'. |
| 21:39.26 | koen | mreimer: I think I lost some patches |
| 21:39.35 | mreimer | oops |
| 21:43.14 | mreimer | is this anything to worry about: Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib |
| 21:43.14 | mreimer | Gdk-WARNING **: cannot set locale modifiers |
| 21:45.49 | mreimer | yep, the culprit seems to be cairo-fixed.patch |
| 21:45.56 | mreimer | did RP commit that patch? |
| 21:46.14 | koen | mreimer: yes, o-hand developed that patch |
| 21:46.20 | XorA|gone | mreimer: mv cairo-fixed.patch cairo-unfixed.patch |
| 21:46.26 | mreimer | XorA|gone: :-) |
| 21:46.35 | mreimer | I'll compare against what they've been discussing on the list |
| 21:46.36 | koen | mreimer: I think Jorn did, see the gnome-performance list |
| 21:46.46 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rf090702d... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): gpe-login 0.87: replace highdpi patch with one that just sets a normal theme, since the dpi issues should have been resolved |
| 21:47.14 | mreimer | nm, the patch on the cairo list was about something else |
| 21:47.30 | mreimer | thanks for the gpe-login patch koen |
| 21:52.49 | pH5 | great, that should make gpe-login fonts readable on the magician |
| 21:54.13 | koen | does gpe-login setup the correct dpi for the magician? |
| 21:54.57 | XorA|gone | wow firefox is a whole lot more usable with w100 driver |
| 21:55.25 | koen | the w100 driver add a gig of ram? |
| 21:56.32 | XorA|gone | koen: 1.0.7 version is much less of a RAM hog than 1.5.disaster |
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| 22:01.09 | mreimer | koen: gpe-login looks much nicer. thanks |
| 22:03.49 | pH5 | koen: it's just that it got the highdpi patch applied because I use the hx4700 image on the magician. |
| 22:04.06 | koen | pH5: I thought gpe-login parsed /proc for that, but I could be wrong |
| 22:04.16 | koen | (5pt is wrong nonetheless) |
| 22:07.27 | XorA|gone | damn I need more cpu power |
| 22:07.44 | pH5 | who doesn't |
| 22:07.58 | XorA|gone | God |
| 22:08.58 | koen | XorA|gone: so the w100 patch is ready for inclusion now? |
| 22:10.39 | XorA|gone | koen: It seems to work |
| 22:10.55 | XorA|gone | koen: havent killed anything yet |
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| 22:16.24 | pH5 | now I really need more cpu power, too |
| 22:30.40 | mreimer | should I commit cairo-1.2.4.bb with cairo-fixed.patch commented out? |
| 22:30.50 | mreimer | I don't want to step on anyone's toes |
| 22:38.50 | XorA|here | mreimer: file a bug report, then RP will see it |
| 22:38.59 | mreimer | XorA|here: ok |
| 22:39.00 | XorA|here | mreimer: feel free to mention I see the same results |
| 22:39.27 | XorA|here | ~lart autoconf with cross compile settings |
| 22:41.15 | mreimer | XorA|here: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1376 |
| 22:48.46 | XorA|here | koen: remind me on monday to check in gnome 2.14 :-) |
| 22:49.02 | koen | XorA|here: not 2.16? :p |
| 22:49.43 | XorA|here | koen: give them a chance to release it :-) |
| 22:51.43 | koen | I'll try to remember |
| 22:52.31 | XorA|here | unfortuneately it doesnt fix my problem with libgnomeui :-( |
| 22:53.01 | pH5 | ipkg install xserver-kdrive-w100 |
| 22:53.13 | XorA|here | pH5: woo woo |
| 22:54.21 | mreimer | XorA|here: is Xw100 better than Xfbdev? |
| 22:56.28 | XorA|here | mreimer: yes |
| 22:56.30 | pH5 | judging from the gpe-login screen, it seems to work. but the touchscreen doesn't work. it seems the xcalibrate support is broken/disabled in the git version |
| 22:56.58 | XorA|here | pH5: Im running the release version here |
| 22:57.02 | mreimer | oh yeah, I remember seeing something about that on one of the lists. koen knows something about that I think |
| 22:57.04 | mreimer | or Paul S |
| 23:00.32 | pH5 | XorA|here: will you or Mardy push the w100 driver upstream? |
| 23:01.15 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r58d41919... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf): angstrom: tslib and/or libxcalibrate is broken in kdrive_git, so use the release for now |
| 23:01.35 | koen | at least 2 bugs fixes tonight |
| 23:01.48 | pH5 | koen: what was wrong with the release that made you switch to git? |
| 23:02.08 | koen | I was under the impression that it had less shm problems |
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| 23:02.16 | koen | hey bluelightning |
| 23:02.38 | koen | and all the devs are using the git version nowadays for xephyr |
| 23:04.21 | pH5 | koen: ok, now I'm curious what paul did to get the touchscreen to work. I was under the impression that he just had to apply the xcalibrate patch. |
| 23:05.27 | koen | pH5: xcalibratre isn't needed when you already have a pointercal, right? |
| 23:08.21 | pH5 | koen: I don't think that this is true. Isn't xcalibrate the interface to tslib? |
| 23:08.47 | koen | kdrive has a --enable-tslib and --enable-xcalibrate iirc |
| 23:08.55 | koen | but I could be wrong |
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| 23:09.21 | pH5 | koen: that probably doesn't mean anything because I added them. |
| 23:09.38 | XorA|here | pH5: prefer to leave it to the author |
| 23:10.54 | XorA|here | pH5: might be an idea to add it to OE though, so people can play |
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| 23:14.56 | pH5 | hm.. looks like xcalibrate made it upstream. I'll recompile X11R7.1 for now. |
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| 23:15.37 | pH5 | XorA|here: ok, I'll make a patch and add it to OE |
| 23:15.57 | koen | 'night all |
| 23:16.00 | mreimer | bye koen |
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| 23:16.51 | XorA|here | pH5: cool, I wont get time until monday now |
| 23:17.12 | XorA|here | time for me to sleep |
| 23:17.22 | XorA|here | bitbake sleep |
| 23:18.35 | XorA|gone | pH5: http://hyboria.mine.nu/Xw100 |
| 23:18.42 | mreimer | pH5: do you know if Xw100 X11R7 does EXA, or whether it will do composite faster? |
| 23:21.19 | pH5 | XorA|gone: heh, thanks. 'night |
| 23:21.19 | pH5 | mreimer: I thought kdrive doesn't use EXA. No idea about composite, I didn't even look at the code yet. |
| 23:21.49 | mreimer | pH5: now that you mention it, I think that's right. EXA is an alternative to XAA and KAA, isn't it? |
| 23:22.59 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r0f6969d4... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf): angstrom: hh6 has broken dependencies due to version mismatch, switch back to hh5 |
| 23:23.51 | martin_ | Hi! |
| 23:23.57 | pH5 | heh, I wish people would remember to change the EXTRAVERSION field in the kernel Makefile |
| 23:24.12 | pH5 | mreimer: I think so. |
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| 23:26.06 | martin_ | I try to build a linux kernel for a mips based Tektronix X Terminal. |
| 23:26.49 | martin_ | I worked through the GettingStarted wiki page, and building the packages worked fine... |
| 23:26.57 | martin_ | ...but building the kernel fails |
| 23:27.40 | martin_ | I wonder if I really have to do "bitbake virtual/kernel" literally, or is "virtual/kernel" a placeholder for something I have to fill in? |
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| 23:29.07 | likewise | g'nite all |
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| 23:35.33 | chouimat | hi |
| 23:36.03 | mreimer | hello |
| 23:36.13 | martin_ | hi |
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| 23:51.30 | JustinP | what's the thing called in bitbake/OE which allow syou to just build what you've already built...? |
| 23:58.10 | mreimer | rebuild? |
