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| 06:07.13 | leoncamel | can I build a bootstrap-image from generic-uclibc.conf ? |
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| 07:04.42 | likewise | koen: good morning |
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| 07:17.13 | koen | good morning likewise, all |
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| 07:52.01 | leoncamel | koen, morning . |
| 07:52.42 | leoncamel | koen, do you know which distro could build with uclibc ? |
| 07:53.26 | leoncamel | koen, I use generic-uclibc.conf to build a bootstrap-image, and I got failed . :( |
| 07:53.56 | koen | iirc the openslug dudes are able to use uclibc |
| 07:54.21 | zecke | leoncamel: another day another challenge :) |
| 07:54.30 | koen | I'm in the process of adding uclibc support to angstrom, but that doesn't work yet without heavy patching |
| 07:54.35 | koen | hey zecke |
| 07:55.02 | leoncamel | koen, how about angstrom with uclibc ? |
| 07:55.29 | leoncamel | zecke, :). yes. there are various requirements in embedded system. :) |
| 07:55.54 | leoncamel | zecke, so . do you know which distro is suitable for uclibc ? |
| 07:56.30 | zecke | no :) |
| 07:56.33 | leoncamel | zecke, any suggest ? |
| 07:56.38 | XorA | morning |
| 07:56.45 | leoncamel | XorA, morning . |
| 07:59.31 | koen | hey XorA |
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| 08:12.58 | XorA | RP: hrw|gone do you guys have linux-openzaurus 2.6_2.6.17-r27 lying around somewhere I can try, so I can see if this problem I have with prism cards is local only |
| 08:15.06 | RP | morning all |
| 08:15.16 | koen | hey mickeyl & RP |
| 08:15.21 | RP | XorA: Probably not handy for c7x0 |
| 08:15.45 | mickeyl | morning RP, morning koen |
| 08:15.49 | mickeyl | hey XorA |
| 08:16.24 | XorA | RP: ok cheers |
| 08:16.36 | XorA | mickeyl: hey, you had that beer oclock then |
| 08:16.39 | RP | XorA: I could build one... |
| 08:16.47 | mickeyl | XorA: I had :)) |
| 08:16.53 | XorA | RP: only if its not too much hassle |
| 08:17.37 | XorA | RP: if your too busy Ill just nick the OZ 3.5.4.X kernel |
| 08:18.09 | RP | XorA: You're in luck - I have a build and just can't remember what I did 4 days ago :) |
| 08:18.27 | RP | http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/c7x0/ |
| 08:18.46 | XorA | RP cheers |
| 08:19.12 | RP | XorA: That was just a compile test and wasn't tested on a device ;-) |
| 08:20.18 | leoncamel | what dose the "multiple providers are available (glibc, glibc-intermediate);" stands for ? |
| 08:20.39 | leoncamel | why there is *not* uclibc ? |
| 08:20.47 | XorA | RP: well it cant be worse that what Im running for hostap :-) |
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| 08:21.51 | leoncamel | and I have already defined PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/libc = "uclibc". |
| 08:22.02 | leoncamel | zecke, do you know ? |
| 08:22.03 | mickeyl | TARGET_OS = "linux-uclibc" |
| 08:22.24 | leoncamel | mickeyl, yes, I defined that also. |
| 08:22.53 | mickeyl | sure it doesn't get overridden along the way? |
| 08:23.11 | mickeyl | is it still displayed in the short bitbake summary before a build starts? |
| 08:23.34 | XorA | leoncamel: whch distro? |
| 08:23.39 | florian_kc | good morning |
| 08:24.02 | XorA | hey florian_kc |
| 08:25.53 | leoncamel | XorA, any distro without any modification can't build now, so I have to modify from generic-uclibc.conf. |
| 08:26.54 | XorA | leoncamel: ANGSTROM_MODE = "uclibc" should work for Angstrom |
| 08:27.10 | hrw|work | morning |
| 08:27.14 | koen | XorA: if you have applied some patches |
| 08:27.16 | mickeyl | hey hrw |
| 08:27.27 | koen | hey hrw|work |
| 08:27.29 | leoncamel | mickeyl, no. I found the TARGET_OS = "linux" now. |
| 08:27.38 | hrw|work | mickeyl: seeing you on irc is weird feeling |
| 08:27.45 | mickeyl | hrw|work: hehehe |
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| 08:27.49 | leoncamel | mickeyl, OK. I will check which overridden.. |
| 08:27.53 | leoncamel | hrw|work, good morning . |
| 08:27.57 | mickeyl | hrw|work: like zecke said... "now you got your life back" |
| 08:28.53 | mickeyl | btw., you guys won't guess with whom I have a meeting tomorrow |
| 08:28.58 | mickeyl | Wim Delvaux |
| 08:29.03 | mickeyl | Mr. Opie-Networksettings 2 :) |
| 08:29.22 | hrw|work | mickeyl: the mistic ns2? |
| 08:29.26 | mickeyl | *nod* |
| 08:29.34 | XorA | hey hrw|work |
| 08:30.31 | leoncamel | mickeyl, OK. who is Wim Delvaux ? |
| 08:30.51 | mickeyl | leoncamel: a former semi-ambitioned Opie programmer |
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| 08:31.31 | mickeyl | who is working in similiar topics to mine atm. he is in frankfurt for two hours tomorrow and so we take the chance to meet |
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| 08:32.11 | mickeyl | which is quite nice, i always like to meet developers to think about ideas, cooperations and stuff |
| 08:33.23 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * re7d333eb... 10/ (1 packages/uclibc/uclibc_svn.bb): uclibc svn: beat it into a working state, but given the massive desinterest the OE/uclibc people are displaying for patches sent to the mailinglist, this could break for some configurations |
| 08:33.57 | leoncamel | mickeyl, I modified build/conf/local.conf and also distro/xxx.conf. I still get TARGET_OS="arm" . :( |
| 08:34.13 | mickeyl | hmm that's really odd |
| 08:35.32 | leoncamel | mickeyl, So. which is the final place ? so that I could add "TARGET_OS=linux-uclibc" to override all. |
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| 08:35.53 | do13_ | morning all |
| 08:36.04 | XorA | RP: same result with your kernel/modules |
| 08:36.05 | mickeyl | just overriding it won't fix the bogus things going around for you, but you can take a look in bitbake.conf to see in which order the .conf files are read |
| 08:36.09 | mickeyl | or do bitbake -D -D -D |
| 08:36.11 | mickeyl | morning do13 |
| 08:36.17 | do13_ | hey mickeyl |
| 08:36.48 | RP | XorA: hostap is working for me on poodle... |
| 08:36.58 | XorA | RP: maybe its prism3 only |
| 08:37.05 | RP | morning do13_ |
| 08:37.12 | do13_ | hi Richard |
| 08:37.28 | hrw|work | hi dirk |
| 08:38.00 | do13_ | hi Marcin |
| 08:38.37 | leoncamel | mickeyl, OMG, even DISTRO is overrided. |
| 08:38.47 | mickeyl | that's ok, DISTRO override is expected |
| 08:39.57 | do13_ | mickeyl: congratulations. What's you next plan? vacation? |
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| 08:42.32 | mickeyl | do13: thanks! i wish i could do that.... my business schedule doesn't allow it though. I'm busy with that first project for the rest of this year. for next year i plan to not take any projects for a couple of months and doing things I had to leave aside (OE Book, Pet Programming Projects, Guitar Playing) |
| 08:43.23 | XorA | mickeyl: record a good riff so we can auir guitar whle OZ boots |
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| 08:44.10 | mickeyl | XorA: no kidding, that'd be pretty cool. I use to be demo scene programmer back in late the 80s, so I'm still thinking about a kick-ass booting/installer :)) |
| 08:45.40 | koen | mickeyl: pssst |
| 08:45.57 | koen | mickeyl: don't tell the world about our world domination plans ;) |
| 08:46.05 | do13_ | mickeyl: I understand. Are you working on OPIE? |
| 08:48.14 | leoncamel | mickeyl, http://pastebin.ca/177241 |
| 08:48.59 | leoncamel | mickeyl, 1) reading /stuff/org.openembedded.dev/conf/bitbake.conf 2) /stuff/build/local.conf |
| 08:49.09 | leoncamel | mickeyl, is this correct ? |
| 08:52.07 | mickeyl | koen: right. I'll keep tight lipped :) |
| 08:52.40 | mickeyl | do13: No, it's a pretty cool gtk+ derived project that will be open sourced later this year. |
| 08:52.53 | XorA | Gopie :-) |
| 08:52.58 | mickeyl | leoncamel: sorry, need to look into this later, i have a telefone conference starting in a couple of minutes |
| 08:53.15 | leoncamel | mickeyl, OK. |
| 08:53.24 | do13_ | mickeyl: Have you seen the OPIE based phone reference platform? |
| 08:53.35 | mickeyl | do13: which one? |
| 08:53.42 | do13_ | gda-tech |
| 08:53.52 | mickey|bbl | yeah. took a quick glance on it |
| 08:53.57 | do13_ | mickey|bbl: http://www.gdatech.com/ref_IMX31smartphone.shtml |
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| 09:01.28 | leoncamel | mickey|bbl, OK. I thinks I got it. I made a mistake.. thanks you. |
| 09:02.29 | likewise | stamps/ is called *do_polulate_staging but log is called {run,log}.do_stage. |
| 09:04.24 | koen | likewise: do_stage is a wrapper around do_populate_staging |
| 09:04.41 | koen | likewise: a leftover from eons ago |
| 09:04.42 | XorA | hrw|work: found me first bug with 3.5.4.1, cant change password |
| 09:05.18 | likewise | koen: i am looking into what is needed to wrap OE bitbaking in a GUI. |
| 09:06.19 | likewise | koen: or at least learn my way through the filesystem layout of bb/oe :-) |
| 09:06.49 | hrw|work | Date: Tue Sep 19 20:42:06 2006 -0700 |
| 09:06.50 | hrw|work | Linux v2.6.18. Arrr! |
| 09:06.55 | hrw|work | hmmm.. |
| 09:07.04 | hrw|work | XorA: patches welcome |
| 09:07.37 | XorA | hrw|work: looks like busybox problem, double free in glibc when passwd is run |
| 09:07.37 | likewise | hrw|work: Righty mate! |
| 09:07.41 | likewise | <hic> |
| 09:07.58 | do13_ | hrw|work: what's wong with 2.6.18? |
| 09:08.14 | likewise | do13_: it's been pirated already, 1 hour after release |
| 09:09.42 | hrw|work | do13_: it was quote |
| 09:10.11 | likewise | :-) |
| 09:10.22 | XorA | still speaking like a pirate then |
| 09:10.47 | likewise | anyone got recent libz problems? I ran into this, it repeats during a fresh build: http://pastebin.com/790019 |
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| 09:11.22 | ade|desk | ello all |
| 09:11.57 | koen | hey ade|desk |
| 09:13.51 | leoncamel | hrw|work, here is a stupid question. does bitbake read $PWD/build/conf/local.conf ? or /stuff/build/conf/local.conf ? which one is correct ? |
| 09:14.24 | hrw|work | leoncamel: it read $BBPATH/conf/local.conf |
| 09:14.32 | hrw|work | ~hail /stuff/ example dir |
| 09:14.35 | ibot | ACTION bows down to /stuff/ example dir and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 09:14.52 | likewise | koen: angstrom 2007.1 glibc-intermediate depends on qemu-native, is this new? |
| 09:15.00 | hrw|work | in next version I will use /jestem/szalony/i/nie/mysle/OE |
| 09:15.09 | likewise | leoncamel: ${BBPATH}/build/conf/local.conf, AFAIK |
| 09:15.18 | koen | likewise: glibc itself depends on qemu to generate locales |
| 09:15.19 | hrw|work | translation: I/am/crazy/and/do/not/think/ |
| 09:15.32 | likewise | leoncamel: where BBPATH is a path list. |
| 09:16.31 | leoncamel | likewise, BBPATH=/sutff/build/:/sutff/org.openembedded.dev |
| 09:16.58 | leoncamel | likewise, Hmm, I made a *huge* mistake.. :( |
| 09:17.07 | likewise | koen: Aha. qemu-native build stops because it needs graphics output. I think I will override it: |
| 09:17.11 | likewise | ERROR: QEMU requires SDL or Cocoa for graphical output |
| 09:17.13 | likewise | | To build QEMU without graphical output configure with --disable-gfx-check |
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| 09:22.52 | tkp | hey |
| 09:22.53 | ade|desk | koen: does eabi require nptl ? |
| 09:23.03 | koen | ade|desk: no |
| 09:23.31 | tkp | does anyone know if it's possible to perform atomic package upgrade with ipkg? |
| 09:24.11 | koen | tkp: 'ipkg install <package>' |
| 09:24.34 | CoreDump|home | morning |
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| 09:25.18 | tkp | koen: I'd like to run ipkg upgrade;, but be able to revert all packages should one update fail |
| 09:26.45 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r0a62d07c... 10/ (7 files in 2 dirs): linux kernels: fix uclibcgnueabi detection |
| 09:26.46 | ade|desk | koen: i like the uclibc commit |
| 09:27.20 | ade|desk | sorry i haven't been able to review uclibc stuff lately, will get on today with some playing |
| 09:27.58 | koen | it has to be reviewed again anyway when .29 hits the streets :) |
| 09:28.24 | ade|desk | .29 should be an easy addition |
| 09:28.46 | ade|desk | no need for the weird patches wrt thumb etc |
| 09:28.58 | ade|desk | as far as i am aware |
| 09:31.39 | ade|desk | koen: could you pop your local.conf for uclibc eabi somewhere please |
| 09:32.03 | koen | ANGSTROM_MODE = 'uclibc' :) |
| 09:39.14 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rfca3217b... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): linux kernels: and bump PR where available for previous commit |
| 09:39.20 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * re2fd8a6d... 10/ (1 packages/uclibc/uclibc.inc): |
| 09:39.20 | CIA-9 | uclibc.inc: add code to enable/disable EABI for ARM systems based on TARGET_OS |
| 09:39.20 | CIA-9 | * inspired by Richards code from linux-openzaurus.inc |
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| 09:47.24 | koen | http://svn.o-hand.com/view/poky?rev=728&view=rev looks sweet |
| 09:49.03 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r960f0d19... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): linux-oz 2.6.16: added HACK which remove some cards from orinoco_cs driver in favor of hostap_cs |
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| 09:52.32 | florian_kc | koen: interesting... dpkg based images |
| 09:52.45 | koen | florian_kc: indeed |
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| 09:53.06 | lrg | morning all |
| 09:53.29 | koen | hey Liam |
| 09:53.29 | florian_kc | hi lrg |
| 09:55.33 | XorA | hey lrg |
| 09:55.52 | florian_kc | koen: but handling debian stuff the other way around would be even better: Reading some specifications from debian build system... that would make it _much_ easier to inherit nice debian improvements and maemo packages. |
| 09:58.05 | koen | florian_kc: bribe kergoth :) |
| 09:58.33 | koen | the 'bail kergoth out of jail fund' for the acx stuff should still be filled ;) |
| 09:59.50 | florian_kc | :-) |
| 10:00.02 | hrw|work | ~lart kaddressbook 3.5.4 for lack of any usability |
| 10:01.27 | zecke | hrw|work: hehe :) |
| 10:03.34 | hrw|work | zecke: I spent an hour today on merging vcards. after each del/merge is redraw list few times |
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| 10:07.10 | ade|desk | lol didn't have a compiler installed on this box ... thought i had missed something from the rebuild when the disks went south |
| 10:08.53 | likewise | org.openembedded.dev/packages/qemu/qemu-native_0.8.2.bb does not respect EXTRA_OECONF, because of qemu-native.inc. |
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| 10:25.21 | zecke | hrw|work: sadly GNOME isn't much better (usability wise) |
| 10:25.37 | zecke | hrw|work: I love when GNOME VFS fails with Error 23 on SSH |
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| 10:28.53 | hrw|work | zecke: I feel from time to time that too much soft suxx |
| 10:29.25 | zecke | hrw|work: yes, and worse at least I'm partly to blame :( |
| 10:29.43 | hrw|work | zecke: you still have kdepim hat somewhere? |
| 10:30.00 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: collie+3.5.4.1 builds with MACHINE_KERNEL_VERSION="2.4" in local.conf |
| 10:30.38 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: yeah, no problem ;) I've rewired it to use 2.4 in 3.5.4.2 |
| 10:31.13 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: can you use 3.5.4.1 as version for 2.4 powered collie release? |
| 10:31.22 | zecke | hrw|work: somewhere, I still want to finish syncing some day... |
| 10:31.42 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: I would like to avoid situations where users will tell that they run 'oz 3.5.4.2 with 2.4.18 on collie' |
| 10:32.06 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: ahh i see. Yeah, will do |
| 10:32.16 | hrw|work | zecke: kitchensync-opensync works quite well on copy (segfault on conflicts) |
| 10:34.24 | zecke | hrw|work: that is a miracle ;) |
| 10:34.32 | zecke | hrw|work: KResource is the biggest crap on earth |
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| 10:35.05 | zecke | KDEPIM compiling [102%] Built target syndication |
| 10:39.39 | leoncamel | cu |
| 10:42.20 | zecke | hrw|work: GNOME VFS is too stupid to give any message. Continously asking for the password and not saying why it does need it again |
| 10:42.33 | zecke | hrw|work: I miss my broken macbook... |
| 10:43.19 | koen | zecke: that's because gnome-keyring is broken |
| 10:51.11 | hrw|work | http://immense-world.blogspot.com/2006/09/mathematics-genius.html |
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| 10:53.01 | koen | the limit one is the best |
| 10:54.04 | hrw|work | I like 'find X' |
| 10:55.29 | koen | x <- there it is |
| 10:56.36 | koen | hrw|work: pdaX is starting to like like mplayer with all the weird versioning |
| 10:56.53 | koen | rc1-beta5-svn384932852-test9 |
| 10:56.53 | hrw|work | yep |
| 10:57.29 | hrw|work | 19 14:34 < hrw|work> sashz: did you ever heard about 'tags'? |
| 10:57.29 | hrw|work | 19 14:34 < hrw|work> sashz: svn tag 'pdaxrom beta5' |
| 10:57.29 | hrw|work | 19 14:34 < sashz> beta5 tagged ;) |
| 10:57.34 | hrw|work | 19 14:34 < hrw|work> sashz: then I would just release 1.1.0beta5 - easier for users |
| 10:57.38 | hrw|work | 19 14:35 < hrw|work> OpenZaurus 3.5.4.2-3dffb952a5e8cf6ca073ae455daee7f668af02cf would be overkill |
| 10:57.41 | hrw|work | 19 14:36 < pgas> 3.5.4.2-rc2 is much better :P |
| 10:58.44 | koen | even that tags is superfluous |
| 10:58.55 | koen | s/tags/tag/ |
| 10:59.10 | koen | pdaxrom version 'pdaxrom beta5' |
| 10:59.34 | XorA | OpenZaurus 3dffb952a5e8cf6ca073ae455daee7f668af02cf is the best |
| 11:00.03 | koen | OpenZaurus -funrollloops |
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| 11:25.08 | ade|desk | koen: if only OE had gentoo atime settings ;) |
| 11:25.23 | koen | :) |
| 11:43.05 | koen | 15M ipk/uclibc_0.9.28+svn20060920-r3_h2200.ipk |
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| 11:44.52 | koen | ah, not everything gets stripped |
| 11:44.58 | do13_ | koen: 291K ipk/uclibc_0.9.28-r3_arm.ipk here :) |
| 11:45.24 | XorA | koen: your uclibc is almost the size of OZ image :-) |
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| 11:45.48 | hrw|work | XorA: its all-in-one-busybox-included release |
| 11:46.03 | do13_ | koen: which new features are integrated |
| 11:46.19 | koen | do13_: EABI :) |
| 11:46.37 | XorA | hrw|work: kinda like windows then |
| 11:48.35 | hrw|work | XorA: argh.. I 'upgraded' win98 to winxp to be able to upgrade my phone firmware. now instead of having 1G free on partition I have 'low disk space' monits |
| 11:48.47 | hrw|work | ~lart winxp for taking 1.8GB |
| 11:49.09 | koen | 276K ipk/uclibc_0.9.28+svn20060920-r3_h2200.ipk |
| 11:49.10 | XorA | hrw|work: thats the reason for vmware :-) |
| 11:50.19 | hrw|work | XorA: vmware can get SAFE access to machine usb ports? |
| 11:50.40 | XorA | hrw|work: yes |
| 11:50.53 | XorA | hrw|work: it uses the usbfs to access them |
| 11:51.20 | XorA | hrw|work: and is free these days |
| 11:52.27 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rdfecbe98... 10/ (1 packages/uclibc/uclibc.inc packages/uclibc/uclibc_svn.bb): |
| 11:52.27 | CIA-9 | uclibc: fix packaging in uclibc.inc so we can get .dbg package. |
| 11:52.27 | CIA-9 | * OE's strip functionality can't cope with a debugbuild of uclibc yet, so beware |
| 11:53.16 | hrw|work | XorA: vmware player free + qemu to create disk images? |
| 11:53.48 | hrw|work | XorA: how fast it is? 50%? 80% of real speed? |
| 11:54.14 | koen | depends on the amount of spyware :) |
| 11:56.31 | hrw|work | koen: xp itself is spyware |
| 11:59.34 | XorA | hrw|work: there is a website can create complete vm fore you, its upto 100% of real speed dependng how much driver stuff happens |
| 12:00.45 | hrw|work | zecke: do you know how to beam contact(s) from kdepim over ir/bt (obex)? |
| 12:00.47 | XorA | hrw|work: http://www.easyvmx.com/ |
| 12:00.56 | ade|desk | or just use vmware server which is also free |
| 12:02.49 | ade|desk | is there a CLI util that can tell how much battery power is left on a Z ? |
| 12:03.04 | likewise | koen: Does this angstrom related error sound familiar?: glibc-intermediate won't build, versioning, binutils version. http://pastebin.com/790477 |
| 12:03.09 | koen | ade|desk: 'apm' ? |
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| 12:04.00 | koen | likewise: that doesn't look familiar at all |
| 12:04.07 | hrw|work | XorA: http://www.easyvmx.com/expertform.shtml |
| 12:04.14 | koen | likewise: but gcc is broken for armv4t/eabi |
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| 12:04.25 | koen | likewise: it insists on doing 'clz' isns |
| 12:05.01 | likewise | koen: only the latest GCC's? |
| 12:06.02 | koen | likewise: the ones that support EABI |
| 12:06.15 | likewise | ok |
| 12:07.07 | likewise | koen: so angstrom head is currently broken, as it defaults to EABI? |
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| 12:09.59 | likewise | NAiL: does ixp4xx/openslug build for you, currently? |
| 12:10.26 | ade|desk | koen: whats your PREFERRED_VERSION_uclibc ? |
| 12:11.11 | koen | likewise: for armv4(t), yes :( |
| 12:11.16 | koen | ade|desk: the svn one |
| 12:11.38 | koen | ade|desk: I just moved all non-svn versions to packages/non-working/foo |
| 12:11.47 | ade|desk | lol, cheat |
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| 12:40.15 | leoncamel | ~irclog |
| 12:40.23 | ibot | well, irclog is http://www.handhelds.org:8081/irclogs |
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| 12:41.23 | koen | ~logs |
| 12:41.24 | ibot | apt/ibot/jbot/purl all log to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz, or updated "nightly" |
| 12:41.30 | koen | ~stats |
| 12:41.31 | ibot | Since Wed Sep 6 15:38:15 2006, there have been 248 modifications, 2108 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 1569 commands. I have been awake for 13d 21h 3m 15s this session, and currently reference 111622 factoids. I'm using about 18700 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 45390.65/3468.07 child 0.12/0.07 |
| 12:42.37 | hrw|work | ~stat hrw |
| 12:42.41 | koen | http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/oe.html.gz |
| 12:44.18 | hrw|work | koen: years ago I used similar script with eggdrop. |
| 12:44.55 | leoncamel | is there irclog for today ? |
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| 12:46.14 | koen | ibot: no, irclog is apt/ibot/jbot/purl all log to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz, or updated "nightly" |
| 12:46.16 | ibot | okay, koen |
| 12:47.13 | XorA | ~botsnack ibot |
| 12:47.13 | ibot | XorA: aw, gee |
| 12:47.49 | Crofton | koen, does it make sense to list multiple maintainers in bb files? |
| 12:48.52 | ade|desk | co-operation is the name of the game |
| 12:49.46 | koen | Crofton: like ade|desk said :) |
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| 12:50.49 | Crofton | well, there is no technical reason why you could have two MAINTAINERS line in bb files |
| 12:51.12 | Crofton | obviously the human element is key :) |
| 12:52.13 | woglinde | hm |
| 12:52.26 | woglinde | uclibc.inc |
| 12:53.17 | CIA-9 | 03MartinDietze 07org.oe.dev * r0d9028c0... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 12:53.17 | CIA-9 | elvis: a vi clone with lots of vim-like features |
| 12:53.17 | CIA-9 | * elvis-tiny is not as tiny as vim-tiny, i.e. it has visual marking, undo, syntax highlighting etc. |
| 12:53.17 | CIA-9 | * elvis even has http and ftp support |
| 12:53.26 | CIA-9 | 03MartinDietze 07org.oe.dev * re942c8d5... 10/ (1 packages/cxcrypt packages/cxcrypt/cxcrypt_1.0.bb): cxcrypt: primitive binary-xor-based encryption tool. |
| 12:53.38 | CIA-9 | 03MartinDietze 07org.oe.dev * re97ac2db... 10/ (10 files in 6 dirs): busybox: use a larger buffer in xargs for nylon, patch to compile busybox 1.00 for mtx-[12] |
| 12:54.20 | koen | Crofton: 1 MAINTAINER entry listing multiple persons |
| 12:54.39 | Crofton | ok |
| 12:54.46 | Crofton | in case it ever comes up :) |
| 12:55.13 | koen | Crofton: iirc gpsd has 3 or 4 maintainers |
| 12:55.41 | hrw|work | linux-oz has 3 |
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| 13:22.51 | hrw|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:22.51 | hrw|work | 13351 root 25 0 283m 236m 2760 R 42.0 31.2 18:11.11 kbluetoothpairi |
| 13:22.56 | hrw|work | 12837 root 18 0 335m 238m 2764 D 36.0 31.5 24:22.02 kbluetoothpairi |
| 13:23.01 | hrw|work | nice tool... |
| 13:33.08 | CIA-9 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rc82c0181... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): linux-oz-2.6.17: Add preliminary qemux86 support (kernel only), add rootdelay=1 option for spitz, add symlinks in image deploy directory, migrate qemuarm from integrator to versatile (from poky) |
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| 13:44.23 | hrw|work | RP: plans to release 2.6.18-oz? |
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| 13:56.27 | RP | hrw|work: 2.6.18 is out now? :) |
| 13:56.49 | hrw|work | RP: today |
| 13:56.59 | hrw|work | or even yesterday. |
| 13:57.01 | RP | hrw|work: We'll have a .bb soon then :) |
| 13:57.11 | hrw|work | The latest stable version of the Linux kernel is: 2.6.18 2006-09-20 03:57 UTC |
| 13:57.19 | koen | yarrrr |
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| 13:58.10 | hrw|work | RP: I can look to create first version |
| 13:58.36 | RP | hrw|work: Renaming the git kernel will probably near enough work |
| 13:58.53 | hrw|work | yep |
| 14:00.48 | florian_kc | ~lart u-boot |
| 14:00.59 | hrw|work | mtd_fix_chipops_locking-r0.patch applied in mainline |
| 14:02.06 | florian_kc | hrw|work: nice |
| 14:02.15 | hrw|work | argh.. dropping into shell after failed patch suxx |
| 14:03.47 | Sleep_Walker | ~lart TPS65010 |
| 14:05.21 | do13_ | hrw|work: 2.6.18 on tosa needs some love (mtd and usb). Its on my list |
| 14:05.27 | NAiL | likewise: I built debianslug a couple of days ago, why? |
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| 14:07.40 | hrw|work | do13_: thx |
| 14:08.00 | hrw|work | hx2750_base-r27.patch need only refresh |
| 14:08.21 | lrg | do13: is tosa touch ok now ? |
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| 14:09.49 | do13_ | lrg, not yet. I integrated all patches, but it doesnt work. Ill look later today |
| 14:11.49 | hrw|work | NOTE: Applying patch 'nand_sharpsl_fix-r0.patch' |
| 14:11.53 | hrw|work | first fail |
| 14:12.13 | do13_ | lrg: It seems mikearthur prefers 4 spaces instead of tabs |
| 14:13.02 | hrw|work | nand_sharpsl_fix-r0.patch is applied in mainline |
| 14:14.24 | hrw|work | NOTE: package linux-openzaurus-2.6.18-r27: task do_patch: completed |
| 14:15.01 | hrw|work | default SRC_URI set apply |
| 14:15.50 | hrw|work | RP: mtd_fix_chipops_locking spectrumcs_fix nand_sharpsl_fix are in .18 already |
| 14:16.38 | lrg | do13:ok, i did some space to tab conversion but i may have missed some |
| 14:20.24 | hrw|work | NOTE: package linux-openzaurus-2.6.18-r27: task do_patch: completed |
| 14:20.27 | hrw|work | with tosa patches |
| 14:21.53 | hrw|work | http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/2.6.18/ - recipe used and quilt patchset |
| 14:23.07 | hrw|work | now trying with collie patches |
| 14:25.19 | hrw|work | NOTE: package linux-openzaurus-2.6.18-r27: task do_patch: completed |
| 14:26.01 | hrw|work | collie-mcp-r0.patch needed editing |
| 14:26.05 | hrw|work | also added |
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| 14:27.51 | RP | hrw|work: Feel free to add it, you're way ahead of me :) |
| 14:28.02 | XorA | RP: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/KMqzvV75.html with mplayer -vo fbdev -fbmode qvga -vm directed to correct fbdev should work |
| 14:28.36 | XorA | RP: I only have a fb0 here |
| 14:28.57 | RP | XorA: That doesn't account for the nostd mode bit so at I guess, I'd say it won't work |
| 14:29.08 | hrw|work | RP: will do but got top pri work now at work |
| 14:29.18 | RP | unless that's in timings? |
| 14:29.19 | XorA | RP: well if that will make it play n fb1/2 thats a start |
| 14:29.39 | RP | XorA: I can make it play on fb2, its just a mode setting issue |
| 14:30.10 | RP | XorA: but the mode depends whether the video is YUV 422 or 420 etc :-/ |
| 14:30.45 | XorA | RP: adding nostd <number> to that should make it switch to YUV mode |
| 14:30.57 | RP | XorA: ok, that could well work |
| 14:32.10 | XorA | my mplayer segfaults at that, but I dont know if thats just becuase I dont have those modes |
| 14:33.34 | koen | XorA: there was some that in #maemo about teaching ffmpeg armv5 |
| 14:33.42 | koen | s/that/talk/ |
| 14:34.05 | XorA | koen: it already does in mplayer |
| 14:34.24 | XorA | koen: I assume they mean more armv5 |
| 14:34.39 | RP | XorA: I might get a chance to test later |
| 14:34.39 | koen | XorA: even MUL and DIV (aka armv5 dsp) ? |
| 14:34.55 | XorA | koen: no, only bx currently |
| 14:35.06 | XorA | koen: otherwise its the same at armv4 |
| 14:35.20 | koen | heh |
| 14:35.31 | koen | bx causes a pipeline flush on xscale |
| 14:35.47 | koen | fwiw: bx is in armv4t as well |
| 14:36.35 | XorA | koen: Im a mong, I meant pld |
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| 14:55.29 | likewise | Does fontconfig work for you guys? It picks up the host linker in one OE build (ep93xx/generic-uclibc), or fails on host's /usr/lib/libz.la during another build (ixp4xx/openslug)? |
| 14:55.41 | likewise | work=build |
| 14:57.20 | ade|desk | likewise: no its has 3 problems with fc-cache for linking on host arch ~ target arch, so it uses host linker |
| 14:58.06 | XorA | RP: mplayer doesnt handle the nostd flag :-( |
| 14:59.06 | RP | XorA: I suspected as much :-( |
| 14:59.32 | XorA | RP: when terrier arrives I shall work on that then |
| 15:00.55 | likewise | ade|desk: since when, is this a new problem? |
| 15:01.05 | leoncamel | hmm, the size of uclibc bootstrap-image is large than glibc one ? |
| 15:01.14 | leoncamel | is this normal ? |
| 15:02.02 | RP | XorA: sounds good |
| 15:02.03 | likewise | ade|desk: Did you mean fc-case instead of fc-cache? |
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| 15:05.14 | leoncamel | koen, how do you think that ? the size of ulibc bootstrap-image ? |
| 15:05.30 | koen | I never build bootstrap-image |
| 15:05.36 | koen | to much crap in it |
| 15:05.40 | koen | too* |
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| 15:06.05 | leoncamel | koen, what kind of "crap" ? ;) |
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| 15:14.05 | ade|desk | likewise: er yeah |
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| 15:15.47 | ade|desk | likewise: i dont know when fontconfig stopped building indeed, perhaps it always has |
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| 15:21.16 | hrw|work | monotone lack copy?? |
| 15:21.20 | tzanger | quick question for the OE guys... |
| 15:21.28 | tzanger | when creating unix domain sockets, do I need /dev/ to be rw? I'm trying to do this on an embedded system... / is ro, /var is ramfs and /tmp is linked ot /var/tmp. socket() works, but bind()ing to /var/tmp/.foo comes back with an error of "read-only file system"... I'm at a loss as to what to do next. |
| 15:21.53 | hrw|work | tzanger: do /dev/ on ramfs? |
| 15:22.18 | tzanger | hrw|work: is it caused by /dev being ro? |
| 15:22.46 | tzanger | I'm curious as to what it's creating there if that's the case |
| 15:22.50 | XorA | chmod 777 /var/tmp ? |
| 15:22.53 | hrw|work | tzanger: dont know |
| 15:22.59 | hrw|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:23.20 | hrw|work | result of my 2.6.18 work |
| 15:23.34 | tzanger | hrw|work: sounds like you're in Lethal's shoes |
| 15:23.42 | hrw|work | tzanger: ? |
| 15:23.54 | tzanger | paul mundt, linux-sh maintainer |
| 15:26.52 | hrw|work | ah |
| 15:26.54 | RP | hrw|work: Did you fix up squashfs? |
| 15:27.10 | hrw|work | RP: patch applied without problem so not touched it |
| 15:27.21 | RP | hrw|work: It doesn't compile ;-) |
| 15:27.29 | hrw|work | RP: on eabi? |
| 15:27.36 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rc09f4e98... 10/ (27 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 15:27.36 | CIA-9 | linux-oz: added 2.6.18 (not tested) |
| 15:27.36 | CIA-9 | - some patches refreshed: |
| 15:27.36 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:27.36 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:27.37 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:27.39 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:27.46 | hrw|work | RP: newer version is available - will add it on days |
| 15:27.56 | RP | hrw|work: vfs changed in 2.6.18 - I can update it |
| 15:28.57 | hrw|work | RP: first I will check 3.1-r2 into OE |
| 15:29.18 | hrw|work | RP: if squashfs does not build then comment it out |
| 15:29.34 | hrw|work | time to home |
| 15:29.35 | RP | hrw|work: I just fixed it - I'll check the fix in |
| 15:29.40 | hrw|work | RP: cool |
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| 15:39.23 | hrw|work | c |
| 15:39.23 | hrw|work | u |
| 15:42.44 | hvontres|poodle | RP: So what sort of cool things will we get in 2.6.18 ? |
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| 15:43.56 | RP | hvontres|poodle: Just a newer kernel version atm ;-) |
| 15:46.44 | CIA-9 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r001aa936... 10/ (6 files in 3 dirs): linux-openzaurus-2.18: Fix squahsfx patch, update qemuarm integrator -> versatile |
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| 16:16.19 | balle_ | hi |
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| 16:24.45 | ade|desk | koen: bloody hell uclibc-initial_svn is a laugh, fails to find 0.9.29 based files, no wonder its 0.9.28 base !! wtf |
| 16:25.35 | koen | the whole uclibc in OE is a bit convoluted |
| 16:26.06 | ade|desk | indeed, with 0.9.29 i think a re-org is needed |
| 16:26.58 | ade|desk | the svn version should be reclaimed as real svn and not svn plus extras that may or may not be relivant |
| 16:27.18 | koen | isn't it already? :) |
| 16:27.26 | koen | I think I removed all extras |
| 16:27.27 | ade|desk | s / relivant / relevant |
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| 16:28.09 | ade|desk | ok uclibc.inc needs a tweak |
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| 16:33.46 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r590bf588... 10/ (1 packages/linux/handhelds-pxa-2.6_cvs.bb): handhelds-pxa-2.6 cvs: fix uclibc/EABI |
| 16:35.50 | likewise | koen: does openembedded.org has a build box that runs nightly builds on some local.conf? |
| 16:36.02 | koen | likewise: sort of |
| 16:36.08 | koen | check the 'tinderbox' link |
| 16:36.10 | likewise | koen: where night is anytime of the day :-) |
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| 16:50.21 | koen | hey pH5 |
| 16:52.03 | pH5 | hey koen. is uclibc already worth a try? |
| 16:53.01 | koen | pH5: with the right .config you can build ncurses, readline and nano |
| 16:54.30 | koen | pH5: http://www.openembedded.org/~koen/uclibc-hack-r2.diff |
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| 16:55.49 | pH5 | koen: cool. but why oh why does it need real kernel headers? |
| 16:56.21 | pH5 | with 2.6.18 out, we should start to think about updating kernel-headers to the ones generated from kernel src.. |
| 16:56.21 | koen | pH5: no idea, I just know it fails with llh |
| 16:56.29 | koen | yes! |
| 16:58.54 | pH5 | pity nobody seems to know where to get it |
| 17:00.52 | joshin | Koen, did you see my message about v8jlene's sudo patch |
| 17:01.01 | koen | yes |
| 17:01.09 | koen | and I saw the update in bugzilla |
| 17:01.18 | koen | I'm waiting for it to get committed :) |
| 17:01.28 | joshin | Ok, cool. Wasn't sure if you were tracking the bug. |
| 17:01.40 | joshin | Aren't we all just waiting to get committed :) |
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| 17:02.42 | ade|desk | pH5 uclibc uses real linux kernel headers cos why not use the ones made for the kernel at least the libc will always have the same defs as the kernel it built with |
| 17:03.16 | koen | 'cause you upgrade the kernel more often that *libc |
| 17:03.16 | ade|desk | crap train to catch .. see you all tomorrow |
| 17:03.33 | ade|desk | koen: in uclibc's case, i doubt it ;) |
| 17:03.37 | pH5 | lol |
| 17:04.33 | ade|desk | koen look at debian etch as well, more libc6 changes than the kernel |
| 17:04.48 | ade|desk | any way must cycle .. bye |
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| 17:04.58 | koen | hey, I used gentoo in a deep dark past |
| 17:05.11 | koen | everyday is a new *libc day over there :) |
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| 17:33.03 | likewise | pH5: which machine/distro? |
| 17:33.18 | likewise | all my builds currently fail... :-( |
| 17:34.12 | pH5 | likewise: ipaq-pxa270 angstrom-gnueabi |
| 17:34.55 | koen | 2.6.18 has hw rng for ixp4xx |
| 17:35.25 | likewise | koen: yes, you should :-) |
| 17:35.43 | likewise | koen: how much RAM on that board, 64MB? |
| 17:35.57 | koen | 533MHz/54MB |
| 17:36.00 | koen | 64* |
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| 17:44.49 | JustinP | koen: did packaged-staging ever get finished? |
| 17:45.13 | koen | JustinP: the proof of concept worked |
| 17:45.25 | koen | JustinP: now RP and I are going to make it really work :) |
| 17:45.33 | JustinP | heh |
| 17:45.54 | JustinP | it wasn't fully done? I had thought yousaid before it only needed docs? Unexpected coplexities? |
| 17:47.44 | koen | more like unexpected thinkos |
| 17:49.07 | koen | the o-hand dudes have a cool devgen branch for poky that contains some neat stuff that is nice for packaged-staging |
| 17:49.33 | koen | like enhanced pkgmaps |
| 17:53.35 | hrw | re |
| 17:53.45 | hrw | cbrake: for python-thinker module |
| 17:54.27 | hrw | cbrake: if we remove tcltk from python then if someone will need python-thinker then he will have to build python twice |
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| 17:56.18 | hrw | cbrake: or we would end with virtual/python provided by python and python-with-thinker whic both will have common .inc file |
| 17:57.09 | hrw | ~hail terminus font for being available even for ms windows |
| 17:57.10 | ibot | ACTION bows down to terminus font for being available even for ms windows and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
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| 17:58.07 | hrw | cbrake: did you got hit by tcltk again? |
| 18:00.08 | cbrake | hrw: I'm hacking together a build environment for a MOXA system. Using their toolchain and rootfs -- just want to build a few apps. |
| 18:00.21 | hrw | ah. |
| 18:00.35 | cbrake | hrw: tk is not building -- looks like it is linking stuff from /usr/lib -- which is usually a bad sign. |
| 18:00.42 | hrw | cbrake: then I would do python-no-tcltk.bb |
| 18:01.59 | hrw | putty in fulscreen allow to forget that I use mswin ;D |
| 18:02.49 | hvontres|poodle | hrw: borrowing a machine? |
| 18:03.34 | hrw | hvontres|poodle: my fiancee laptop |
| 18:04.00 | hrw | brb |
| 18:04.18 | hvontres|poodle | hrw:heh...now you'll just need to talk her into buying you one for Christmas :) |
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| 18:05.28 | koen | hrw: colinux! |
| 18:06.50 | koen | cute: http://www.acmesystems.it/ |
| 18:07.19 | koen | hrm, no cris support in OE yet |
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| 18:27.01 | hrw | koen: for me putty is enough ;) |
| 18:27.02 | hrw | cu |
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| 18:36.51 | tzanger | can anyone tell me from a lowlevel point of view if an SDR SDRAM controller can access DDR memory (albeit at SDR rates) ? |
| 18:36.56 | tzanger | the command structures look the same |
| 18:37.11 | tzanger | the reason I ask is because DDR seems cheaper than SDR |
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| 18:52.13 | emte | tzanger, they sell adapters for that purpose |
| 18:52.50 | emte | they are usually listed with the ram module |
| 18:54.11 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r138e57d9... 10/ (7 files in 3 dirs): gpe-plucker: remove obsolete stuff |
| 18:58.25 | likewise | koen: Is that a single SDRAM on the LOFT? I have a 8M32 SDRAM on our prototype board, which is use is "not verified by Intel" according to the h/w design guide for the ixp4xx... |
| 18:58.30 | emte | Want some extra cash? http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/drives/89ed/?cpg=37T Implement a wireless remote using a WiFi PDA (or PSP) as the remote. Bounty: $500 |
| 18:59.27 | emte | didnt even know dualcore arm chips existed ... Linux (2.6 Kernel) on a Dual Core Processor ARM9/TI DSP |
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| 18:59.49 | koen | likewise: I have no idea, you'd have to ask [g2] |
| 19:00.02 | koen | emte: virtually every ipod has one |
| 19:00.19 | koen | emte: 'dual core' means 'cpu + dsp' in marketing speak |
| 19:00.28 | likewise | koen: ok, will do. |
| 19:00.29 | emte | really? wouldnt think walmart would pay that much for em |
| 19:00.53 | likewise | OE on the TI DaVinci platform, yey! |
| 19:01.57 | likewise | job opening: port OE to the TI davinci platform. downside: on location. |
| 19:02.18 | emte | isnt that backwards? |
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| 19:02.32 | hvontres|poodle | likewise:where is location? |
| 19:02.38 | koen | likewise: monterey? |
| 19:02.57 | likewise | Southern part of .nl |
| 19:03.10 | likewise | koen: monterey?? |
| 19:03.14 | emte | or are they actually trying to make OE+Bitbake run on the davinci? |
| 19:04.31 | koen | likewise: A friend of mine works at TI in monterey |
| 19:04.34 | likewise | emte: sorry, no. Just support for the TI davinci as a target, w/ support for graphical applications. |
| 19:04.58 | likewise | koen: ah ok, didn't know their location. Is that the DSP R&D dep.? |
| 19:05.25 | emte | well you could ask kergoth how well he liked working at TI ... |
| 19:06.42 | koen | likewise: adding support for the davinca dev-board is like half an hour of work |
| 19:06.54 | koen | likewise: the juice is into getting the dvsdk to work without mvista-isms |
| 19:07.36 | likewise | koen: not only that, I think the juice is into getting a stable set of packages. |
| 19:08.21 | koen | that's out of the scope of "Just support for the TI davinci as a target, w/ support for graphical applications." |
| 19:08.42 | likewise | koen: yes, there is little print involved in the contract :-) |
| 19:08.42 | koen | sdk maintenance is almost a fulltime job |
| 19:09.38 | likewise | koen: ok, scrap early job opening. new one: Linux OE/SDK maintenance for three ARM targets: EP93xx, IXP4xx and TI DaVinci :-) |
| 19:09.58 | likewise | extra bonus: Freescale Coldfire, Intel Core 2 Duo |
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| 19:13.27 | emte | that neuros device is kinda neat ... not sure its worth the $200 tho |
| 19:14.25 | koen | likewise: that is kind of a sucky combo, since the ep93xx is armv4t and the ixp and davinci armv5te |
| 19:15.54 | likewise | koen: just a different local.conf file. |
| 19:18.30 | koen | likewise: I hope gcc 4.1.2 hits the streets soon with fixed armv4t support |
| 19:20.36 | do13 | emte: Did you placed an order for the neuros device? |
| 19:20.59 | likewise | OT: does anyone know if the 'Xbox Cordless Attack Controller' protocol is known and can be interpreted by <your favorite Linux device> ? |
| 19:21.17 | emte | no, i dont have a freq analyser at home |
| 19:21.32 | emte | and its hard to say what info they give to you |
| 19:21.43 | likewise | koen: I am having a hard time getting our OE builds to work, and yes, I see it's a full time job, that's why the job opening is there :-) |
| 19:22.23 | likewise | emte: ok, just wondering if it had already been hacked by someone, and receiver/transceiver device was known, etc. |
| 19:23.10 | emte | they are bounties listed on the thinkgeek site |
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| 19:23.20 | emte | there are a couple |
| 19:23.37 | emte | the $500 for pda wifi remote was the lowest one |
| 19:26.21 | JustinP | looks like a cool device |
| 19:26.30 | JustinP | of course I have no cable so why would I need PVR.... |
| 19:26.38 | emte | but i suppose the minisip/splat/sip people might be interested in the VOIP bounty |
| 19:26.43 | JustinP | and I have an Xbox so why would I need a media player |
| 19:26.53 | likewise | gotta go. see you later all. |
| 19:27.00 | JustinP | ;-) |
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| 19:27.09 | emte | JustinP, it already runs linux? :) |
| 19:27.36 | JustinP | emte: well, yes, that is nice ;-) |
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| 19:29.16 | emte | hmm the PDA wifi remote thing doesnt make sense |
| 19:29.37 | emte | the device doesnt nativly have wifi support, just wired 10/100 and IR |
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| 19:30.49 | lvcargnini | Crofton, I here |
| 19:37.58 | hvontres|poodle | emte: maybe plug unit into router, pda ->router ->neuros? |
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| 19:54.05 | emte | yeah or a SD/MMC or CF wifi card |
| 19:54.17 | emte | or USB maybe |
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| 20:14.17 | zecke | good nite |
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| 20:39.35 | CIA-9 | 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r35ce2052... 10/ (14 files in 5 dirs): erlang: Add erlang package. Add to slugos feeds |
| 20:44.22 | reenoo | evening |
| 20:44.30 | RP | hi reenoo |
| 20:44.49 | reenoo | hey RP |
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| 20:48.33 | CIA-9 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r6f2dd2b7... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-openzaurus_2.6.18.bb): linux-openzaurus-2.6.18: Apply recent 2.6.17 patches including overlay support |
| 20:52.19 | hvontres|poodle | RP: Who is currently working on zaurusd stuff? |
| 20:54.00 | RP | hvontres|poodle: that would be me |
| 20:55.32 | hvontres|poodle | RP: Do you know of a good way to debug the headphone switch? I am trying to see if it is working correctly in the OZ 3.5.4.2-rc2 kernel |
| 20:55.48 | RP | hvontres|poodle: The headphone switch is not implemented |
| 20:56.11 | hvontres|poodle | RP: Ahh, that would explain the lack of usefull output. |
| 20:57.02 | hvontres|poodle | I think it might be mis-wired to the cancel button... that would explaind the problems I found with resuming from suspend on headphone events |
| 20:57.44 | RP | hvontres|poodle: kind of. That more to do with the poodle power management code not setting the wakeup sources correctly |
| 20:58.27 | RP | The poodle PM code is something I wrote in a couple of days. The idea was then to see what bugs users found. Its doing surprisingly well considering :) |
| 20:59.10 | hvontres|poodle | RP: hmm, sounds tricky... Well, for now it's mostly just a minor annoyance. Waking up on plugging in could even be construed as a "Feature" :) |
| 21:00.43 | hvontres|poodle | Now if I could only find a way to make GPE happy with only 32MB of RAM.... |
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| 21:18.25 | v8jlene | morning everyone |
| 21:19.33 | joshin | morning, afternoon, evening, and night v8jlene |
| 21:19.40 | koen | v8jlene: could you push the sudo patch? |
| 21:20.01 | v8jlene | koen: Yep. I'll do that in a minute. |
| 21:20.23 | koen | great, thanks |
| 21:20.41 | joshin | Would it be wrong to make a portage package for OE? |
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| 21:24.26 | CIA-9 | 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * rf2650b2d... 10/ (1 packages/sudo/files/autofoo.patch): |
| 21:24.26 | CIA-9 | sudo 1.6.8p12: Fix the autoconf patch. The AC_LINK_IFELSE test that was |
| 21:24.26 | CIA-9 | being patched in is incorrect - this fixes the test. Closes #1422. |
| 21:25.58 | joshin | Splat goes the bug! |
| 21:26.51 | koen | someone added erlang |
| 21:26.52 | koen | kinky |
| 21:30.36 | v8jlene | koen: "site/arm-linux-uclibcgnueabi: copied from arm-linux-uclibc" - if we added my common site file stuff you could have just told it to alias these two together... |
| 21:30.53 | koen | v8jlene: I know :( |
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| 21:35.25 | koen | Packaged contents of sudo into /data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/deploy/uclibc/ipk/sudo_1.6.8p12-r0_armv5te.ipk |
| 21:40.44 | koen | gcc-cross suddenly works |
| 21:42.53 | eno | koen: erlang works on nslu2 for a while with optware, now it runs on slugos and potentially more.. |
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| 21:43.44 | CoreDump|home | hi |
| 21:44.09 | RP | hi CoreDump|home |
| 21:45.22 | koen_ | uclibcgnueabi status: working |
| 21:45.31 | NAiL | cool |
| 21:47.57 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rf9545009... 10/ (1 packages/uclibc/uclibc-cvs/arm/uClibc.config): ibc-cvs arm uClibc.config: update to current svn |
| 21:48.47 | v8jlene | koen: Have you actually tried to boot it up yet or just managed to build it all? |
| 21:49.00 | koen | v8jlene: just building |
| 21:49.18 | koen | I wanted to boot it when I noticed that the kernels where still OABI |
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| 21:50.24 | v8jlene | koen: I've built uclibc for sh4 but shared libraries don't work... which makes it kinda useless. That was 0.9.28 - I might try the latest svn and see if that makes any difference. |
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| 21:59.53 | NAiL | morning, rwhitby |
| 22:00.00 | rwhitby | morning |
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| 22:15.50 | Crofton | Please set TARGET_ARCH directly, or choose a MACHINE or DISTRO that does so. |
| 22:16.10 | Crofton | Anyone know what might cause this to happen? I am helping a guy get OE setup for the first time |
| 22:21.43 | hvontres|poodle | Crofton: I think you need to pick a DISTRO in local.conf iirc |
| 22:22.09 | Crofton | yeah, we found the problem |
| 22:22.23 | Crofton | sppelling error in MACHINE = in local.conf |
| 22:22.35 | Crofton | I didn't expect it to be that easy :) |
| 22:22.47 | hvontres|poodle | Crofton: heh |
| 22:23.24 | Crofton | ~seen bigdog |
| 22:23.27 | ibot | bigdog <n=bigdog_u@shylonhunter.dsl.xmission.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 314d 22h 17m 55s ago, saying: 'slacker'. |
| 22:23.33 | Crofton | ~seen bigd0g |
| 22:23.34 | ibot | bigd0g <n=b1gdo6@193.1.99.21> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 2d 7h 45m 53s ago, saying: ':('. |
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