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| 02:36.11 | chouimat|Zzzz | night |
| 02:37.29 | emte | night |
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| 02:55.57 | leoncamel | morning ~! |
| 02:58.36 | ggilbert_ | kergoth: How's openhand? |
| 03:00.12 | kergoth | pretty good. still thinking about getting out of coding for a job, but its pretty good. dont hate it, and thats better than most jobs i've had |
| 03:00.57 | ggilbert_ | Well, better than nothing I guess |
| 03:01.51 | kergoth | aye |
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| 07:01.51 | Genesis | salut |
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| 07:05.09 | Ifaistos | Greetings ! |
| 07:05.35 | Genesis | morning :) |
| 07:06.39 | Ifaistos | Genesis : hi |
| 07:07.32 | Ifaistos | 563 revisions... some people were busy all these days :) |
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| 07:35.49 | koen | good morning all |
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| 07:39.08 | v8jlene | koen: morning |
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| 07:42.12 | Ifaistos | koen : morning |
| 07:44.59 | koen | hey v8jlene & Ifaistos |
| 07:45.52 | hrw|work | morning |
| 07:45.58 | koen | hey hrw|work |
| 07:46.51 | CIA-9 | 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r2ae64e9d... 10/ (1 classes/cpan.bbclass): |
| 07:46.51 | CIA-9 | cpan.bbclass: Instead of putting modules into ${libdir}/perl5 put them into |
| 07:46.52 | CIA-9 | ${libdir}/perl5/site_perl/${version} since ${libdir}/perl5 is not part of |
| 07:46.52 | CIA-9 | the standard INC (search) path for perl and so these modules are not |
| 07:46.52 | CIA-9 | found by default in the original location. Technically they should go |
| 07:46.54 | CIA-9 | in vendor_perl instead of site_perl, but that requires changes to all |
| 07:46.56 | CIA-9 | of the configuration files which is a much more complex change. |
| 07:46.58 | CIA-9 | 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r87190a93... 10/ (1 classes/cpan_build.bbclass): |
| 07:47.00 | CIA-9 | cpan_build.bbclass: The existing cpan.bbclass works for perl modules that |
| 07:47.02 | CIA-9 | uses the old Makefile.PL based build ssytem. This class is for perl modules |
| 07:47.06 | CIA-9 | that use the new Build.PL based build system (not widely used yet but |
| 07:47.08 | CIA-9 | starting to appear). Again this use site_perl instead of vendor_perl since |
| 07:47.11 | CIA-9 | vender_perl is not being setup by the perl build. |
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| 07:49.26 | Ifaistos | koen : Just back from my honeymoon... i think i can make it to the OEDEM, is it still on the same dates ? |
| 07:50.00 | koen | Ifaistos: congrats on the wedding and honeymoon |
| 07:50.20 | koen | http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/OEDEM that has the latest info |
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| 07:53.46 | Ifaistos | koen : any info on location, in order to arrange for hotel ? |
| 07:54.20 | koen | it's near the U6 subway line |
| 07:54.26 | koen | I forget where the location was |
| 07:55.31 | RP | koen, Ifaistos: http://www.bmco-forum.org/index.php?id=28 |
| 07:55.43 | RP | morning all btw |
| 07:56.03 | koen | hey RP |
| 07:57.51 | Ifaistos | RP : Hey |
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| 07:59.37 | koen | Adding new user `gitlog' (UID 113) with group `adm' ... |
| 08:00.30 | hrw|work | hi RP |
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| 08:02.02 | ade|desk | howdy folks |
| 08:02.40 | XorA | morning |
| 08:03.36 | koen | hey XorA |
| 08:07.17 | CIA-9 | 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * rcd0ccc8a... 10/ (1 classes/cpan.bbclass classes/cpan_build.bbclass): |
| 08:07.17 | CIA-9 | cpan.bbclass/cpan_build.bbclass: Make all perl modules DEPEND on perl |
| 08:07.17 | CIA-9 | and RDEPEND on perl-native to avoid having to add it to every single |
| 08:07.17 | CIA-9 | perl module recipe. |
| 08:08.01 | koen | v8jlene: RDEPEND on -native? |
| 08:08.26 | RP | That sounds very very wrong |
| 08:09.03 | v8jlene | grrr... the codes correct.. comment has it backwards ;( |
| 08:09.31 | koen | I suspected something like that :) |
| 08:09.41 | v8jlene | It RDEPENDS on perl, DEPENDS on perl-native *sigh* I'm drowning in perl modules... |
| 08:12.20 | koen | v8jlene: don't forget to bump PR on the affected modules |
| 08:13.09 | koen | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:13.11 | koen | hmmm |
| 08:13.27 | koen | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:13.31 | v8jlene | koen: Yeah, I'll get to it. There's only two checked in and no one could have ever used those 'cause they don't work ;) They were added for the native versions... |
| 08:17.24 | CIA-9 | 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r57f56983... 10/ (19 files in 2 dirs): |
| 08:17.24 | CIA-9 | perl modules: Add the first collection of perl modules. These modules are |
| 08:17.24 | CIA-9 | required to run mason (perl web content development and delivery engine). |
| 08:17.24 | CIA-9 | Mason itself, and the additional modules needed to build it, to follow. |
| 08:18.24 | hrw|work | burned thinkpad looks nice |
| 08:19.09 | koen | hrw|work: it's a secret plot to kill FOSS developers |
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| 08:21.58 | CIA-9 | 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r2a36f6aa... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 08:21.58 | CIA-9 | perl: Update modules that were effected by the cpan.bbclass changes: |
| 08:21.58 | CIA-9 | - Remove the DEPENDS on perl since the cpan class now adds it. |
| 08:21.58 | CIA-9 | - Bump PR to take into account the changed installation location. |
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| 08:22.42 | CIA-9 | 03xora 07org.oe.oz354x * r413f65e0... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-openzaurus_2.6.16.bb): linux-openzaurus_2.6.16.bb : update to ASoC 0.11.5 |
| 08:23.22 | hrw|work | XorA: thx |
| 08:23.45 | hrw|work | XorA: now time to rebuild and finding testers |
| 08:24.05 | XorA | hrw|work: I am running that on c7x0 |
| 08:24.18 | XorA | hrw|work: I reported that kernel to .dev |
| 08:24.21 | hrw|work | XorA: testers = akita, spitz also |
| 08:24.31 | XorA | hrw|work: when it arrives :-) |
| 08:24.37 | hrw|work | hrw@bitbake:~/devel/build/3541$ for machine in c7x0 akita spitz ;do echo "MACHINE = \"$machine\"" > conf/auto.conf;echo "MACHINE = \"$machine\""; bbrebuild packages/linux/linux-openzaurus_2.6.16.bb ;done;date |
| 08:25.16 | hrw|work | ~hail multimachine |
| 08:25.19 | ibot | ACTION bows down to multimachine and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 08:28.12 | hrw|work | 45 patches applied to 2.6.16 |
| 08:30.16 | hrw|work | hmm. squashfs not updated... will skip updating it anyway |
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| 08:32.34 | hrw|work | c7x0 built |
| 08:32.55 | hrw|work | hmm.. iptables... |
| 08:33.02 | Kevin` | ohi |
| 08:33.06 | CIA-9 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r5386fdf3... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-openzaurus_2.6.18.bb): linux-oz-2.6.18: Update to ASoC 0.11.7, refresh poodle_audio patch, correct hrw-pcmcia-ids revision number |
| 08:33.08 | Kevin` | was about to go to sleep |
| 08:33.25 | hrw|work | RP: ops. |
| 08:33.40 | RP | hrw|work: np ;-) |
| 08:34.33 | Kevin` | hrw|work can I expect iptables modules for sl-c3200 anytime soon? :) |
| 08:34.38 | hrw|work | Kevin`: what blocks you? |
| 08:34.46 | hrw|work | Kevin`: will add it today |
| 08:34.55 | Kevin` | blocks me? |
| 08:35.26 | hrw|work | Kevin`: from going to sleep |
| 08:35.32 | XorA | is poodle supposed to flash lights when charging? |
| 08:35.37 | Kevin` | just asking that |
| 08:35.41 | Kevin` | good night |
| 08:35.58 | RP | XorA: It depends how low on charge it is... |
| 08:36.10 | XorA | RP: I dont think Liam charged it so its dead |
| 08:36.30 | RP | XorA: unplug and replug the charger after a few minutes and it will probably show lights |
| 08:37.01 | hrw|work | XorA: o.. you got that poodle into hands? |
| 08:37.49 | XorA | hrw|work: yeah |
| 08:38.06 | XorA | hrw|work: building an umage right now |
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| 08:38.28 | hrw|work | XorA: 3.5.4.2 is too old? :D |
| 08:39.11 | XorA | hrw|work: need dev env for fixng ASoC anyway |
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| 08:39.58 | hrw|work | XorA: its probably too early to ask, but how do you feel being paid for working with Zauruses? |
| 08:40.03 | hrw|work | hi olivier |
| 08:40.23 | XorA | hrw|work: money is always good |
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| 08:47.49 | hrw|work | all 3 machines built |
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| 08:51.15 | zecke | hey |
| 08:51.25 | hrw|work | hi zecke |
| 08:51.44 | XorA | wooo oz 3.5.3 |
| 08:52.15 | RP | hi zecke |
| 08:52.26 | zecke | hey |
| 08:52.40 | RP | zecke: How did the presentation go? |
| 08:52.58 | zecke | I think it was quite amusing for me and everyone around |
| 08:53.07 | zecke | and I have gotten more feedback than expected |
| 08:53.09 | koen | zecke: do you have the slides online? |
| 08:53.21 | zecke | koen: slides? slides are for losers ;) |
| 08:53.24 | koen | zecke: and does TT have a bounty on your head now? |
| 08:53.32 | RP | zecke: sounds good :) |
| 08:53.33 | zecke | koen: no, actually not at all |
| 08:53.58 | zecke | RP: So more and more people, even OSDL, care for mobile devices |
| 08:54.18 | zecke | RP: and even OSDL classifies stuff like Zaurus, N770 as 'desktop' because it has a GUI |
| 08:54.30 | zecke | RP: so we are finally getting away from the term 'Embedded Devices' |
| 08:55.00 | RP | zecke: The term has never bothered me but I can see what that is good :) |
| 08:57.13 | CIA-9 | 03Tom 07org.oe.dev * rde17215c... 10/ (1 classes/kernel.bbclass): kernel.bbclass: do not override machine/*.conf setting of KERNEL_IMAGETYPE to allow image other than zImage to be produced - close #1435 |
| 08:58.09 | RP | Is Tom on irc? |
| 08:58.17 | koen | t0mw ? |
| 08:58.21 | hrw|work | its --author push |
| 08:58.27 | zecke | who is Tom anyway? |
| 08:58.36 | T0mW | eh? |
| 08:59.05 | T0mW | koen: you rang? |
| 08:59.05 | RP | T0mW: Did you file bug 1435? |
| 08:59.06 | koen | 'mtn automate certs' is your friend :) |
| 08:59.11 | T0mW | RP: yeah |
| 08:59.33 | T0mW | RP: that's the one about the KERNEL_IMAGETYPE ? |
| 08:59.55 | RP | T0mW: In future can you file bugs in the OE metadata against OE, not bitbake |
| 09:00.06 | T0mW | huh? |
| 09:00.31 | T0mW | RP: I thought the class lib was bitbake? |
| 09:00.42 | T0mW | RP: oh, doh, sorry |
| 09:00.52 | RP | T0mW: No, the classes are in OE |
| 09:01.17 | T0mW | RP: I tend to think of the apps as OE and anything that isn't an app as BitBake |
| 09:01.36 | T0mW | RP: got it now. heh |
| 09:01.52 | RP | T0mW: np :) |
| 09:02.28 | RP | T0mW: FWIW, I'm not sure the machine.conf is the best place to set KERNEL_IMAGETYPE - Its usually set by the kernel .bb file (after the inherit kernel) |
| 09:02.42 | T0mW | my first project is about done here, I am very pleased with the results of having use OE to build it. |
| 09:02.54 | RP | (although I can see arguments either way...) |
| 09:03.09 | T0mW | RP: yeah, but you cannot override what the kernel.class will do. |
| 09:03.45 | hrw|work | RP: imagine machines which use different bootloaders so need uimage/zimage but has one kernel... |
| 09:03.53 | RP | T0mW: you can - 'inherit kergel \n KERNEL_IMAGETYPE="bzImage"' |
| 09:04.21 | T0mW | ok |
| 09:04.31 | CIA-9 | 03Tom 07org.oe.dev * raf3514ac... 10/ (1 classes/base.bbclass): base.bbclass: handle tar.Z archives - close #1433 |
| 09:04.33 | RP | T0mW: Can you tell us what the project was out of interest or not? |
| 09:04.49 | T0mW | np, it is the Zipit |
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| 09:05.26 | RP | T0mW: Ah, interesting. Have we a machine.conf for that in OE now? |
| 09:05.33 | T0mW | RP: http://www.openzip.org |
| 09:06.18 | T0mW | RP: couple more things to polish and then I'll see about getting a dev account to commit the stuff. |
| 09:06.43 | RP | T0mW: Host openzip.org not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) :-/ |
| 09:07.07 | T0mW | RP: doh, http://www.openzipit.org I am really tired of typing tonite. I need a break! |
| 09:07.34 | T0mW | RP: check out the Add-On Board, that is mine |
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| 09:09.34 | RP | T0mW: very cool :) |
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| 09:11.18 | T0mW | RP: That thing just has caught my imagination. I pick them up on ebay for about $60 |
| 09:11.59 | T0mW | I've got this one running openvpn and accessing my IMAP mail from public wifi. |
| 09:12.20 | CIA-9 | 03Tom 07org.oe.dev * r34b832f9... 10/ (1 packages/pine/pine_4.63.bb): pine: fixed SRC_URI - close #1434 |
| 09:12.20 | T0mW | cannot get weechat to build though |
| 09:13.07 | RP | T0mW: I know someone with one and played with one for a while. They're quite cute devices :) |
| 09:13.42 | simcop2387 | cute devices? where :) |
| 09:13.44 | T0mW | The thing is that the flash is too small to do anything serious with it. |
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| 09:13.57 | T0mW | simcop2387: down boy, down. |
| 09:14.12 | RP | T0mW: But this is where your miniSD comes in? :) |
| 09:14.15 | simcop2387 | T0mW: what kind of devices? i'm always up for new devices |
| 09:14.49 | T0mW | RP: yeah, the new system I put together with OE loads the kernel from flash but boots from the mmc card. |
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| 09:15.14 | T0mW | I just wish that I could put a clock in this thing. |
| 09:15.20 | T0mW | no room |
| 09:15.29 | simcop2387 | just keep using ntpdate! |
| 09:15.45 | T0mW | simcop2387: LOL yes |
| 09:16.34 | T0mW | simcop2387: when you power the unit off, save the old clock time for the next boot. that way your files have something like a real date/time on them. |
| 09:17.50 | simcop2387 | yea, i'm planning on patching/fixing my zaurus (collie) to do that, with the latest openzaurus, it resets it to build time at boot for some odd reason |
| 09:18.15 | T0mW | ew! |
| 09:18.16 | hrw|work | simcop2387: on collie you can try to remove /etc/timestamp |
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| 09:19.08 | CIA-9 | 03Shane 07org.oe.dev * r5792a180... 10/ (1 packages/gdb/gdb-cross_6.4.bb): gdb-cross: added 6.4 version - closed #1426 |
| 09:19.39 | hrw|work | do we have ciabot source in contrib? |
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| 09:20.42 | simcop2387 | hrw|work: thanks, i planned on going through the whole init :) |
| 09:21.35 | simcop2387 | though i may end up writing a Makefile driven init for the collie anyway, simply because of how much faster i know it can be thanks to less overhead |
| 09:22.06 | simcop2387 | i once booted a 486 33mhz laptop in < 10 seconds that way, fully functional boot too |
| 09:22.18 | simcop2387 | hard as hell to maintain though |
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| 09:24.35 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r78ea8c7c... 10/ (6 files in 3 dirs): glibc 2.4 backport two patches from HEAD |
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| 09:29.13 | CIA-9 | 03Bastian 07org.oe.dev * rdf4696f2... 10/ (6 files in 4 dirs): bacula-client: added 1.38.11 - close #1420 |
| 09:29.23 | blaster8 | hey there |
| 09:29.40 | blaster8 | How do I DEPENDS on a specific version of another bbfile |
| 09:29.59 | hrw|work | no way now |
| 09:30.12 | blaster8 | hmm |
| 09:32.43 | simcop2387 | there we go, got it to stop trying to compile the 2.6 kernel for collie, (it kept borking on uart symbols anyway) |
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| 09:39.59 | florian_kc | good morning |
| 09:41.06 | like2wise | good morning to you 2 |
| 09:41.54 | likewise | leon@blaze:~/sandbox/ixp4xx/openembedded/build/tmp/work/busybox-1.2.1-r1.3/busybox-1.2.1$ grep MOUNT .config -----> # CONFIG_MOUNT is not set |
| 09:42.42 | likewise | I do not get how the busybox mount functionality is used in OE, can someone explain pls? |
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| 09:45.41 | XorA | T0mW: hows is your samsung coming? |
| 09:46.40 | T0mW | XorA: heh, been spending time learning OE. Next week I'll have to pull that samsung together. I cannot get the USB working on it. |
| 09:46.50 | XorA | T0mW: which board do you have? |
| 09:47.20 | T0mW | XorA: the littlechips LN2410SBC-LN64 |
| 09:47.33 | XorA | T0mW: have a SMDK2440 here |
| 09:47.44 | T0mW | ah |
| 09:47.49 | T0mW | XorA: http://www.littlechips.com/LN2410SBC_TFT.htm |
| 09:48.21 | T0mW | XorA: I don't need the LCD for this project, but... |
| 09:48.23 | T0mW | ;) |
| 09:48.58 | XorA | T0mW: cool, we are trying to figure out the 2440 seems a bit quiet on board support for that |
| 09:49.33 | T0mW | humpf, everyone seems quiet about linux support for thier boards, don't they? |
| 09:49.56 | XorA | T0mW: yeah, all pretty pictures, no code |
| 09:51.06 | T0mW | XorA: been there done that, I bought a couple of dev boards these past few years and it seems that most will give you an outdated kernel source and then give you blank looks when you ask about linux. |
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| 09:58.19 | CIA-9 | 03Bastian 07org.oe.dev * r9b62bcf6... 10/ (8 files in 4 dirs): privoxy: added 3.0.3 - close #1419 |
| 10:07.47 | hrw|work | XorA: when you will get working poodle image then can you look at #1388 and #1415? |
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| 10:10.12 | XorA | hrw|work: 1388 is my job |
| 10:11.18 | RP | XorA: 1388 should be fixed in recent ASoC releases. The only known issue is now the static |
| 10:11.24 | hrw|work | XorA: I know, but nudge anyway |
| 10:11.48 | XorA | RP: currently my machine is catching fire doing two builds :-) |
| 10:16.19 | XorA | mickey|zzZZzz: I suspect your last email needs a PREFERRED_PROVIDER_dbus-glib = "dbus-glib" but I missed the orignal mail |
| 10:17.52 | hrw|work | get_gcc_fpu_setting get_glibc_fpu_setting functions.. will they migrate into classes/ or bitbake trunk will warn about them? |
| 10:21.08 | hrw|work | XorA: I do not remember when last time I saw any gui on Z :) |
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| 10:23.17 | hrw|work | RP: does bitbake trunk (r612) is usable/working? |
| 10:27.02 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rbbe00e72... 10/ (1 packages/opie-mediaplayer1/opie-mediaplayer1.inc): opie-mediaplayer1: remove unneded DEPENDS on opie-mediaplayer2-skin-default - probably close #1406 |
| 10:30.32 | XorA | hrw|work: you are near to marriage, you arent allowed toys :-) |
| 10:31.43 | hrw|work | XorA: its not so good already |
| 10:37.09 | RP | hrw|work: I'm running trunk for all my builds... |
| 10:37.28 | RP | In fact I'm considering moving poky to use trunk... |
| 10:37.31 | hrw|work | ok |
| 10:38.02 | hrw|work | RP: can you do 'bitbake-trunk -n opie-mediaplayer1' on recent .dev? |
| 10:38.23 | RP | hrw|work: No, it will give circular dependency errors |
| 10:38.38 | hrw|work | RP: .dev or opie-mediaplayer1? |
| 10:38.56 | RP | hrw|work: The metadata is correct but incompatible with debian.bbclass |
| 10:39.01 | hrw|work | aha |
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| 10:39.11 | hrw|work | hi Bernardo |
| 10:39.12 | Bernardo | good morning |
| 10:39.18 | Bernardo | hi hrw|work |
| 10:39.33 | RP | hrw|work: How we solve it is a difficult question and probably needs a rewrite of our package renaming code |
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| 10:43.11 | hrw|work | 12:43 hrw@work:linux-2.6.16$ diff -u ../defconfig-c7x0 .config|diffstat .config | 128 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------- |
| 10:43.47 | hrw|work | iptables stuff... |
| 10:44.01 | psokolovsky | RP: FYI, for me, bitbake trunk stopped working at all after latest commits (which were >1week ago though). |
| 10:45.18 | psokolovsky | RP: And before that, trunk tried to fetch more stuff than 1.6. I.e. when "bitbake gpe-image" converged to just building image with 1.6, running trunk tried to pull up more stuff. |
| 10:45.55 | RP | psokolovsky: Stopped working in what way? |
| 10:46.15 | psokolovsky | RP: Anyway, is there some requirements/textual description why dep refactor was done and what it addressed. I'd like to know background before asking stupid questions ;-) |
| 10:46.31 | RP | psokolovsky: It will build more things but it is correct to do so - dependency handling was incorrect in previous versions :-( |
| 10:47.14 | RP | psokolovsky: I can summarise - the problem is debian.bbclass - it renamed packages and requires anything to be built before it can work out the correct renaming |
| 10:47.15 | psokolovsky | RP: Currently, it gives parsing error for each .bb ;-(. Anyway, consider that FYI only. I'll double-check my setup, and only them come up with mor formal report/questions. |
| 10:47.35 | RP | psokolovsky: It shouldn't give a parsing error (and doesn't do that here) |
| 10:47.55 | psokolovsky | RP: I tried to move away debian.class usage, but it still tried to fethc more. |
| 10:48.31 | psokolovsky | RP: Ok, again, i need look more carefully at it. Just on todo for couple of weeks, so I guessed I just mention it now ;-) |
| 10:48.33 | RP | psokolovsky: When you say moved away from, you removed the inherit? |
| 10:48.48 | psokolovsky | RP: Yes, from angstrom distro config. |
| 10:49.08 | RP | That should have stopped it pulling in most things |
| 10:50.45 | psokolovsky | so I thought. maybe I made a mistake somewhere. So, is there a kind of summary what issues the refactor addressed, except allowing for multithreaded builds? |
| 10:51.27 | RP | psokolovsky: It isn't really documented anywhere :-/ |
| 10:51.46 | psokolovsky | RP: Ok, np, code is my friend ;-) |
| 10:52.10 | hrw|work | RP: what do you think about dropping other machines then c7x0/spitz/akita from 2.6.16 in .oz354x? |
| 10:52.55 | RP | hrw|work: I have no problem with that |
| 10:53.02 | hrw|work | ko |
| 10:53.37 | psokolovsky | RP: Just in case, passing a feature request I got from users: it would be nice to make possible separate fetching of all sources required to build some target, to be them later (e.g., work vs home). I guess, new dep framework would allow to do that. |
| 10:54.04 | psokolovsky | RP: Or would -c fetch would do that with trunk already? |
| 10:54.13 | RP | psokolovsky: It will, we just need to add some way to trigger it from the commandline |
| 10:54.23 | hrw|work | psokolovsky: bitbake -cfetch some-target |
| 10:54.45 | RP | That won't work and never should have as the fetch task doesn't depend on all the other fetch tasks |
| 10:54.45 | psokolovsky | RP, hrw|work: Ok, thanks, will pass that info |
| 10:54.56 | psokolovsky | hm |
| 10:55.12 | psokolovsky | ok |
| 10:57.07 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rde446702... 10/ (7 files in 3 dirs): linux-oz 2.6.16: drop support of other models then c7x0/spitz/akita |
| 10:57.10 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r92e38746... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): linux-oz 2.6.16: enable iptables |
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| 11:42.35 | XorA | hey mikearthur |
| 11:42.42 | mikearthur | good day XorA |
| 11:42.45 | mikearthur | enjoying wolfson? |
| 11:43.11 | XorA | mikearthur: cool so far |
| 11:43.28 | XorA | mikearthur: your muppet makes it easy to find my desk |
| 11:43.32 | mikearthur | :D |
| 11:50.26 | ade|desk | XorA: changed jobs ? |
| 11:58.16 | XorA | ade|desk: Im sitting in mikes old seat in wolfson |
| 12:01.56 | ade|desk | XorA: groovy |
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| 12:08.45 | lrg | morning all |
| 12:08.58 | likewise | What's the proper way to fix the package versions inside a stable distro release? |
| 12:09.09 | XorA | hey lrg |
| 12:09.22 | hrw|work | likewise: PREFERRED_VERSION_package = "myversion" |
| 12:09.23 | likewise | hi all |
| 12:09.27 | XorA | RP: does zaurus serial need a MAX chip inline? |
| 12:09.38 | likewise | hrw|work: and set this for each package in the distro.conf file? |
| 12:12.39 | hrw|work | yes |
| 12:13.19 | chouimat | m orning |
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| 12:34.45 | T0mW | simcop2387: did you notice that the symlink in rc0.d and rc6.d for save-rtc.sh is wrong? It should be K26save-rtc.sh not S26save-rtc.sh |
| 12:36.09 | XorA | hrw|work: did you complete your earlier checkin with linux-oz_2.6.17 as Im having trouble with .dd having v4 of the ids patch |
| 12:36.52 | hrw|work | moment |
| 12:38.48 | T0mW | simcop2387: nm, I was wrong, it is correct. :/ |
| 12:39.15 | hrw|work | XorA: thx. fixed |
| 12:39.24 | XorA | hrw|work: cool |
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| 12:43.23 | hrw|work | cu |
| 12:57.04 | RP | XorA: technically, yes |
| 12:57.44 | RP | XorA: The SerialIO people got away without that using some resistors for the 5V models (i.e. not cxx00). I suspect the serial on poodle is missing some locomo code |
| 12:58.03 | CIA-9 | 03blaster8 07org.oe.dev * r60a1e838... 10/ (13 files in 6 dirs): |
| 12:58.03 | CIA-9 | ixp4xx-npe: Add automatic byte-swapping for LE firmware load |
| 12:58.03 | CIA-9 | mdev: Update loadmicrocode.sh |
| 13:03.17 | XorA | RP: so if I got the techies here to make somethuing like this? http://www.pdaxrom.org/node/92 |
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| 13:18.39 | RP | XorA: It would work fine. Can I have one too? :) |
| 13:19.02 | RP | XorA: You still might need to fix the locomo driver in poodle |
| 13:22.02 | XorA | RP: ok, but having working cable would be helpful |
| 13:22.42 | koen | hrw|work: biff |
| 13:22.44 | koen | zecke: biff |
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| 13:25.14 | RP | XorA: yes :) |
| 13:29.55 | koen | XorA: if you are going to work on s3c24xx, have a chat with prpplague |
| 13:30.01 | koen | ~seen prpplague |
| 13:30.26 | ibot | prpplague is currently on #ol (20m 47s) #edev (20m 47s) #openjtag (20m 47s) #uclibc (20m 47s) #handhelds.org (20m 47s). Has said a total of 2 messages. Is idling for 45s, last said: '~quote scox'. |
| 13:32.29 | XorA | koen: got a real name to go with that nick? |
| 13:32.39 | koen | XorA: Dave Anders |
| 13:33.09 | XorA | koen: cheers |
| 13:33.55 | zecke | koen: biff what? xbiff? |
| 13:34.12 | koen | 'biff' as in 'you have mail' |
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| 13:35.06 | zecke | I knew that |
| 13:35.17 | zecke | I have not read mails since ages as my macbook is still broken |
| 13:35.25 | zecke | I have read a botmail today though |
| 13:35.29 | zecke | I think it was from you |
| 13:36.32 | koen | zecke: ewi546 is going to be redeployed |
| 13:36.43 | zecke | koen: oh :( |
| 13:36.49 | koen | indeed |
| 13:36.57 | zecke | and I should get my stuff off this machine then |
| 13:37.56 | koen | I'm trying to keep it, but it doesn't look like I will succeed :( |
| 13:45.55 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r300063bb... 10/ (31 files in 5 dirs): |
| 13:45.55 | CIA-9 | dbus: move obsolete versions (0.20 - 0.61) to packages/obsolete/dbus |
| 13:45.55 | CIA-9 | * rebuild dbus and apps dependant on it |
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| 13:59.00 | hrw|work | koen: ;( |
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| 14:01.53 | koen | zecke: http://blog.gwright.org.uk/articles/2006/09/24/akademy-2006-day-1 |
| 14:02.16 | chouimat | my eyes!!!!!! |
| 14:03.10 | zecke | koen: George is a moron, I have proof for that |
| 14:03.29 | zecke | koen: Oh I'm so kewl, I just use Haret, a pre compiled kernel |
| 14:03.45 | zecke | koen: I have too much money to spend on geek toys, but don't do any coding :} |
| 14:03.47 | chouimat | zecke: but he's so funny ... |
| 14:04.15 | zecke | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:05.53 | hrw|work | zecke: is he another 'pavel machek' kind of man? |
| 14:07.34 | zecke | hrw|work: no, Pavel actually knows stuff |
| 14:07.47 | zecke | hrw|work: George is, well a journeyer |
| 14:08.00 | hrw|work | ah |
| 14:08.58 | chouimat | hrw|work: no just a 18 years old really mixed up boy ... doesn't seems to be past the "girls have cooties" stage |
| 14:10.18 | chouimat | zecke: can't remember the number of time I gave him pointer on programming ... |
| 14:11.30 | hrw|work | cooties? |
| 14:11.32 | koen | hrw|work: when will pavel learn to recognize an overfilled root partition? |
| 14:11.43 | hrw|work | koen: ask him |
| 14:12.04 | koen | hrw|work: cooties are imaginary bugs girls have |
| 14:12.41 | hrw|work | thx for translation |
| 14:12.53 | koen | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooties |
| 14:18.05 | Crofton | undergrads have cooties |
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| 14:19.18 | Crofton | ~quote scox |
| 14:23.16 | XorA | ~lart spectrum-fw build |
| 14:23.59 | XorA | why does it fetch firmware during configure? |
| 14:28.54 | RP | XorA: I suspect spectrum-fw was my fault :-/ |
| 14:29.23 | XorA | RP: heh heh, it would be ok, but wolfson proxy seems to block it |
| 14:32.19 | hrw|work | cant we add results into metadata? |
| 14:32.25 | hrw|work | or mirror it somewhere? |
| 14:33.53 | XorA | RP: like your emails, xmms-mad/xmms-tremor/xmms have the RDEPENDS/DEPEND circular at the moment, it would be nice to see that fixed |
| 14:34.20 | XorA | RP: looking at DEPENDS at task level its nice and solvable |
| 14:39.35 | RP | hrw|work: I'm not sure about the licence on spectrum-fw :-/ |
| 14:39.55 | RP | XorA: Yes, its no big problem, just needs someone to spend some time on splitting up the packaging task |
| 14:42.06 | koen | hrw|work: http://zaurus.daemons.gr/menaie/openzaurus/ |
| 14:43.49 | koen | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:43.49 | koen | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:43.49 | koen | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:44.13 | koen | "how to become clueless about package management - part I" |
| 14:44.50 | zecke | BTW: IceCream rocks! |
| 14:45.14 | hrw|work | koen: interesting |
| 14:52.52 | RP | koen: The packages list is obviously OE derived :) |
| 14:54.37 | koen | RP: it is :) |
| 14:54.44 | XorA | ~hail sockisfy |
| 14:54.46 | ibot | ACTION bows down to sockisfy and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 14:54.51 | koen | the script would be a lot simpler if |
| 14:55.02 | koen | a) it would use package names instead of filenames |
| 14:55.10 | koen | b) would use ipkg -o |
| 14:55.25 | zecke | /home/hrw |
| 14:56.25 | likewise | koen: has anyone already investigated in why the 32-bit builds differ from the 64-bit builds (in terms of diff'ing the generated binaries)? |
| 14:56.53 | koen | likewise: iirc yes |
| 14:56.54 | zecke | not that I know |
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| 14:57.11 | hrw|work | ~spell Netherlands |
| 14:57.22 | koen | pb_(_) had people disassemble the binaries |
| 14:57.40 | RP | likewise: People started to but never came to a good conclusion. It would be good to know |
| 14:57.41 | koen | This new audioslave album rocks |
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| 14:58.12 | likewise | rp: hmmm, I ran out of diskspace trying to install a 32-bit environment for that test... grr |
| 14:58.54 | likewise | did openslug 3.10 suffer from this (because that's a nice old test set)? |
| 15:00.15 | XorA | koen: time for you to start #oe.radio |
| 15:01.28 | koen | XorA: faith no more also rocks, kudos to your wife for reminding me :) |
| 15:03.40 | XorA | koen: you google stalker :-) |
| 15:04.14 | XorA | koen: she is forever bitter that she is 5 years too young to have grown up when all the cool rock bands were big |
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| 15:06.07 | koen | XorA: you mean bands like deep purple? |
| 15:06.38 | likewise | koen: I love faith no more, what audioslave album do you mean? |
| 15:06.56 | XorA | koen: sabbath, metallica, bon jovi, aerosmith, etc etc |
| 15:07.23 | koen | likewise: revelations |
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| 15:07.35 | likewise | koen: ok, tnx |
| 15:08.02 | zecke | wow mtn 0.30 is out |
| 15:08.24 | koen | zecke: yes, have a look in http://www.openembedded.org/snapshots/ |
| 15:08.31 | XorA | zecke: I spent whole day re rostifying database |
| 15:09.14 | likewise | zecke: I built pre-built monotone binaries (.deb) for ubuntu-amd64. there are on the venge.org website already. |
| 15:09.57 | likewise | my girlie surprised me with a motorcycle lesson yesterday |
| 15:10.01 | zecke | likewise: I have a icecream cluster here :) |
| 15:10.16 | likewise | zecke: huh? |
| 15:10.39 | koen | likewise: icecream is distcc on steroids |
| 15:10.49 | XorA | anyone else see zlib-native not staging zlib.h? |
| 15:10.51 | zecke | likewise: at aKademy, we have about 20-60 CPUs to spare |
| 15:10.53 | chouimat | with a nice monitor :) |
| 15:11.18 | zecke | chouimat: I have heard teambuilder is more nice |
| 15:11.34 | likewise | XorA: similar problems, libz.la not staged. |
| 15:11.57 | likewise | XorA: happens on only one of my build hosts, both are amd64 ubuntu.... |
| 15:12.08 | chouimat | zecke: it's different ... I think it use less cpu ... |
| 15:12.15 | XorA | likewise: i686 ubuntu here |
| 15:12.18 | koen | zecke: the immendio dudes have a patches jpeg package with a libtool update to unbreak it |
| 15:12.31 | koen | patched* |
| 15:12.45 | zecke | koen: I have missed it was broken, wow I'm out of loop |
| 15:12.57 | koen | zecke: http://developer.imendio.com/projects/gtk-macosx/build-instructions |
| 15:13.10 | likewise | out of loop error, that's what I suffer from also. |
| 15:13.16 | koen | "Note: The reason the script downloads a modified version of libjpeg is because the released tarball has a too old libtool version that can't make a dynamic library on OS X. The only change is an updated libtool." |
| 15:14.06 | koen | zecke: I also bought a firewire HD so I can do OE builds on osx |
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| 15:14.26 | zecke | AHHH |
| 15:14.35 | zecke | macbook == broken == life sucks |
| 15:14.54 | XorA | likewise: I added do_stage from zlib_1.2.3 to zlib-native_1.2.3 and that seems to fix it |
| 15:15.32 | likewise | XorA: to be absolutely clear (because I am a OE moron): you plain copied the zlib_1.2.3 do_stage() to zlib_native (.bb) |
| 15:15.44 | XorA | likewise: yes |
| 15:15.49 | likewise | XorA: :-) thanks |
| 15:16.27 | XorA | likewise: I suspect thats a "hack" though |
| 15:16.36 | zecke | real 3m37.031s |
| 15:16.37 | zecke | user 2m19.921s |
| 15:16.37 | zecke | sys 0m14.429s |
| 15:16.42 | zecke | time needed to compile mtn 0.30 |
| 15:17.58 | Crofton | hmm, 0.30 worth it? |
| 15:18.17 | zecke | chouimat: you need to regenerate a cache (which takes tiiiiime) |
| 15:18.26 | zecke | Crofton: you need to regenerate a cache (which takes tiiiiime) |
| 15:18.39 | Crofton | but only once? |
| 15:18.58 | zecke | yes |
| 15:19.06 | zecke | and netsync is compatible |
| 15:19.13 | Crofton | ok |
| 15:19.17 | zecke | so you can use netsync 0.30 on the server and 0.26 on the client |
| 15:19.24 | zecke | or 0.26 client and 0.30 server |
| 15:19.40 | psokolovsky | koen: How about removing old handhelds-pxa-2.6 versions? like 2.6.8? |
| 15:20.40 | koen | psokolovsky: go ahead |
| 15:21.16 | koen | or you download http://www.openembedded.org/snapshots/OE-this-is-for-mtn-0.30.mtn.bz2 |
| 15:21.29 | psokolovsky | koen, ok. I know, there're people who still use 2.6.12 kernel. So, I'll delete up to that. |
| 15:22.14 | koen | note that mtn 0.31 will feature a similar change to the db which agains speeds up initial pull |
| 15:22.54 | koen | 0.30 makes pulling ~40% faster |
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| 15:23.22 | koen | it's all in the release notes :) |
| 15:23.25 | koen | hey lamikr |
| 15:24.44 | lamikr | hi koen |
| 15:30.30 | CIA-9 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r8f247360... 10/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 15:30.30 | CIA-9 | handhelds-pxa-2.6: Remove old versions. |
| 15:30.30 | CIA-9 | * Familiar 0.8.4 was on 2.6.15. |
| 15:30.30 | CIA-9 | * But there are people who still use 2.6.12. |
| 15:30.31 | CIA-9 | * So, remove pre-2.6.12 (left one 2.6.11 bb just in case). |
| 15:30.31 | CIA-9 | * Approved by koen. |
| 15:30.53 | zecke | njs: your test-coverage page is broken |
| 15:30.59 | CosmicPenguin | heh - approved by koen |
| 15:31.00 | zecke | njs: or do you only have 0% covered? |
| 15:32.56 | psokolovsky | CosmicPenguin, yep, I'd prefer such things as dropping kernel .bb's or other core component go thru explicit approval by one of core maintainers. |
| 15:33.52 | CosmicPenguin | but koen? |
| 15:33.56 | koen | we could be like kernel fanboys and require stuff like |
| 15:33.57 | CosmicPenguin | :) |
| 15:34.12 | koen | farted-on-by: Koen <koen@oe.org> |
| 15:35.23 | psokolovsky | CosmicPenguin, koen: ah yep, I usually write full name, but got caught among few things, and typed irc nick ;-) sorry |
| 15:35.24 | hrw|work | SOB etc? |
| 15:35.29 | hrw|work | +1 from me |
| 15:36.27 | koen | hrw|work: 'mtn approve <rev>' |
| 15:37.47 | hrw|work | koen: when I look at packages/random/files/random.patch I like to see who did patch and why |
| 15:38.23 | koen | hrw|work: mtn approve will attach a cert to that revision |
| 15:39.48 | psokolovsky | hrw|work, let's hope mtn log will soon become fully usable to let do that easily |
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| 15:41.34 | koen | psokolovsky: 0.31 addresses that with the new 'heights' stuff |
| 15:41.45 | psokolovsky | ok |
| 15:41.55 | koen | and 0.32 will probably address it again with the 'uncommon ancestor' stuff |
| 15:48.30 | hrw|gone | cu |
| 15:50.07 | koen | RP: two questions: |
| 15:50.24 | koen | RP: what's the state of the devgen stuff in poky? |
| 15:50.37 | koen | RP: did you manage to fill in the devmand svn repo yet? |
| 15:52.20 | RP | The devgen stuff in poky was merged from the branch into poky and is functional. I want to merge it into OE but need to abstract it a class for packaged staging use. That isn't needed for poky so is something I'll have to do on my own time |
| 15:52.35 | RP | and no, devmand hasn't happened yet - just lack of time |
| 15:52.49 | RP | My brother's house is going to impact a lot on my hacking time :-( |
| 15:53.41 | lrg | RP needs colin & justin to help with his brothers house ;) |
| 15:54.10 | blaster8 | hehe |
| 15:54.30 | blaster8 | how many Brits are here anyway? :p |
| 15:56.15 | zecke | later |
| 15:59.04 | lrg | blaster8: afaik me, RP, XorA, maybe more |
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| 15:59.28 | koen | +mallum, cwiiiiiiiiis |
| 15:59.53 | lrg | koen: ah, I forgot :) |
| 16:00.28 | starkruzr | hi folks. has anyone with an Akita noticed that their CF slot stopped working (like, cards don't even turn on) after upgrading to OZ 3.5.4.1? yes, I know this is not an OZ support channel, but no one talks in there. /msg me if you know what I'm talking about, please. thanks. |
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| 16:04.24 | blaster8 | Cambs or Cam? |
| 16:04.52 | ade|desk | Cambs, nr Ely |
| 16:05.03 | blaster8 | Cool, nice place |
| 16:05.07 | blaster8 | bit flat though |
| 16:05.17 | ade|desk | lol understatement |
| 16:06.36 | koen | pH5: http://galathilion.livejournal.com/85187.html |
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| 16:09.57 | ade|desk | right hometime |
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| 16:30.05 | lrg | ~seen fluff |
| 16:30.41 | ibot | fluff <n=stereo@p54817608.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 270d 54m 33s ago, saying: 'rod: what is your question?'. |
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| 16:31.05 | koen | lrg: just put some samsung SoCs on your sill and the dooks fairy will come your way |
| 16:31.45 | lrg | koen: they are on my sill, he may be on vacation atm |
| 16:32.13 | lrg | koen: btw how is nbp ? |
| 16:32.24 | koen | lrg: 44 days of uptime |
| 16:32.43 | lrg | koen: excelllent :) |
| 16:33.08 | CIA-9 | 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * rbb2fb1b2... 10/ (1 packages/enigma2/enigma2.bb): enigma2: the integrated movie player needs gst-plugin-mpegstream, update to 20060926 |
| 16:33.11 | koen | but simtec doesn't respond to my mails about the copyright status of the patch, and I don't have the tools to build a kernel-image |
| 16:33.52 | koen | I should poke Philippe to build 2.6.9/EABI |
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| 16:34.43 | lrg | koen: most of it should be in mainline by now. |
| 16:35.00 | koen | lrg: except machine support and pcon |
| 16:35.18 | lrg | koen: pcon :-/ |
| 16:35.21 | koen | the pcon stuff needs a rewrite for the new i2c infrastructure |
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| 16:38.49 | koen | lrg: sd, pcmcia, cpufreq, audio, video and usb should be present in mainline |
| 16:39.53 | lrg | koen: touch will be soon |
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| 16:42.00 | koen | lrg: I suspect XorA will drool over any nbps left at wolfsson ;) |
| 16:42.20 | lrg | koen: you have the last ones :) |
| 16:43.37 | lrg | heh |
| 16:43.46 | koen | I did receive another pcmcia -> cf type 2 converter today so I can put a microdrive in the devboard |
| 16:44.32 | lrg | koen: cool, it should be a good for native build |
| 16:45.46 | koen | I did find out that distcc is not working well in OZ |
| 16:47.31 | kergoth | koen: how so? |
| 16:49.46 | koen | kergoth: it has trouble finding gcc, and when it does it errors out will compile errors |
| 16:49.59 | koen | I tested it with hello.c |
| 16:50.36 | koen | I didn't try the updated version I added to .dev |
| 16:52.34 | Genesis | a+ |
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| 16:55.52 | koen | meh |
| 16:56.02 | koen | I should write down more stuff |
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| 16:56.17 | pH5_ | koen: thanks for the pointer :) |
| 16:57.31 | koen | pH5: the xcb dudes needed a release to get in to X11R7.2 |
| 16:58.15 | koen | 7.2 is looking sweet, but I fear the new RandR stuff will break with kdrive and/or pdas |
| 16:59.24 | koen | I hope 7.2 will have working xcalibrate* foo |
| 16:59.54 | hvontres|poodle | ~nbp |
| 17:00.12 | koen | hvontres|poodle: http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/cms/netbookpro-s |
| 17:00.23 | pH5 | koen: I didn't follow development closely. Any exciting news besides working xcalib and possibly not working xrandr? |
| 17:00.46 | koen | a lot of bugfixes |
| 17:00.51 | hvontres|poodle | koen: ahh :) |
| 17:01.38 | koen | pH5: I'm working on a machine file for my desktop (tyan 2462 mainboard) to test angstrom/x86 |
| 17:02.02 | koen | 7.2 seems to have better support for ATI cards |
| 17:04.38 | pH5 | cool, my olde laptop has a M9. But I guess that doesn't include imageon yet :) |
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| 17:19.00 | CIA-9 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r0934fe98... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): libxcb, xcb-proto: add 0.9.91 (1.0 RC1) |
| 17:19.06 | CIA-9 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * re50c88a2... 10/ (1 packages/xcb/libxcb_0.9.91.bb): libxcb-0.9.91: correct library naming, stop splitting dev package |
| 17:19.13 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r6925fd8e... 10/ (1 conf/machine/include/tune-athlonmp.conf): tune-athonmp: tune from athlon MP cpus |
| 17:19.20 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r090b60f3... 10/ (1 conf/machine/guinness.conf): guinness.conf: machine description for computers containing a tyan 2462 mainboard |
| 17:19.27 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rffd7294f... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): linux-x86: add a rudimentary config for the guinness machine |
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| 17:23.09 | hrw | mornign |
| 17:24.22 | Gerrath | I'm tring to build glib-2.0 as it it required by several packages and I keep getting the following error during build: gconvert.c:47:2: #error GNU libiconv not in use but included iconv.h is from libiconv |
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| 17:26.07 | hrw | Gerrath: do you have USE_NLS=no or build uclibc? |
| 17:26.45 | Gerrath | hrw, I'm using glibc and not uclibc. What is USE_NLS=no? |
| 17:27.14 | hrw | Gerrath: do not remember now exactly |
| 17:27.38 | Gerrath | hrw, were do I set it? |
| 17:28.05 | hrw | if not set then do not touch rather |
| 17:30.02 | Gerrath | hrw, any other ideas why it won't compile? I guess I can try a fresh OE build.. |
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| 17:30.27 | hrw | no idea now |
| 17:30.58 | kergoth | Gerrath: that indicates that you've built libiconv, which overwrote the C library's iconv.h. dont build libiconv unless you're using uclibc |
| 17:31.01 | kergoth | if i recall correctly anyway |
| 17:31.04 | kergoth | that stuff was unpleasant |
| 17:31.31 | Gerrath | kergoth, so how can I undo it if that is what happened? Rebuild glibc? |
| 17:31.36 | hrw | kergoth: should not libiconv have check 'if glibc then skip'? |
| 17:32.29 | kergoth | probably, afaik currently it just doesnt get added to the deps |
| 17:32.32 | kergoth | Gerrath: yep |
| 17:32.47 | kergoth | hrw: cant wait for packaged staging ;) |
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| 17:34.30 | Gerrath | kergoth, what is packaged staging? |
| 17:39.14 | kergoth | its an effort to make the staging area managed by a package management system, so things lke one package overwriting another's files wont be allowed |
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| 17:51.06 | CIA-9 | 03kristoffer 07org.oe.dev * r2b6edbb6... 10/ (1 conf/distro/jlime-donkey.conf): |
| 17:51.06 | CIA-9 | conf/distro/jlime-donkey.conf : Remove glibc-intermediate providers |
| 17:51.06 | CIA-9 | * Remove due to "spam" at buildtime. |
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| 17:53.38 | Gerrath | kergoth, that is great! I'm just so impressed with the state of OE. I'm hoping to put together a demo and present it to as many companies as possible in my area (Pittsburg, PA). I want to be an OE preacher :-p |
| 17:54.15 | JoseJX2 | Woot! Another Pittsburgher :) |
| 17:54.35 | hrw | hi JoseJX2 |
| 17:54.39 | JoseJX2 | hi hrw |
| 17:55.47 | hrw | ~spell satisfactionable |
| 17:57.15 | njs | zecke: it does that sometimes... if you wait a bit it will have numbers again :-) |
| 17:58.15 | Gerrath | JoseJX, are you a student or do you work in the area? |
| 17:58.33 | JoseJX2 | Gerrath: Grad student at Pitt |
| 17:58.57 | hrw | JoseJX2: collie user? |
| 17:59.17 | Gerrath | JoseJX2, I just started to look into the Pitt grad program.. I'm a Penn State Alumni so its been a hard migration :-p |
| 17:59.33 | JoseJX2 | hrw: I just got a 5000D. |
| 17:59.46 | JoseJX2 | hrw: I'm not sure if RP told you, but I'm documenting the SD/MMC slot driver |
| 17:59.57 | JoseJX2 | Gerrath: heh, understandable :) |
| 18:00.06 | hrw | JoseJX2: I got mail |
| 18:00.25 | JoseJX2 | http://josejx.net/collie/ |
| 18:00.46 | JoseJX2 | That's where the specs will end up, I've started documenting now that I'm mostly done translating |
| 18:01.11 | hrw | JoseJX2: translating? |
| 18:01.53 | JoseJX2 | hrw: I translated all of the ARM assembly into C by hand so I can understand it better. |
| 18:02.00 | hrw | ah |
| 18:02.03 | JoseJX2 | hrw: I basically have the source to the 2.4 driver in C now. :p |
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| 18:02.33 | hrw | tried to use it instead of binary one? :D |
| 18:02.58 | JoseJX2 | hrw: No, not yet. It's not 100% compilable yet, but I could... |
| 18:03.00 | JoseJX2 | :) |
| 18:03.49 | JoseJX2 | Actually, maybe you can explain this |
| 18:04.08 | JoseJX2 | In sharp_char, they use ioctl 0x5680-0x5682 for LEDs |
| 18:04.28 | hrw | I'm not familiar with 2.4-crapix |
| 18:04.28 | JoseJX2 | In this driver they use the same ioctl for some of the SD bus control. |
| 18:04.32 | JoseJX2 | That doesn't make sense :p |
| 18:04.36 | JoseJX2 | heh, okay, nm then |
| 18:05.43 | JoseJX2 | Well, my goal is to get 2.6 running on my collie, so, hopefully crapix will go away sooner rather than later :) |
| 18:06.01 | hrw | JoseJX2: tried OZ 3.5.4.2 image? |
| 18:07.52 | JoseJX2 | hrw: I think it's running 3.5.4 |
| 18:08.00 | JoseJX2 | hrw: I haven't flashed it in a while |
| 18:08.12 | hrw | JoseJX2: 3.5.4.2 is 2.6 powered experimental |
| 18:08.17 | JoseJX2 | Then no |
| 18:08.24 | JoseJX2 | I need my SD slot |
| 18:08.33 | hrw | RP: ping |
| 18:09.06 | JoseJX2 | :p |
| 18:09.06 | JoseJX2 | Only 32MB of ram with a dead backup battery |
| 18:09.06 | hrw | ah.. |
| 18:09.06 | JoseJX2 | So I use the ram for volatile, SD for storage |
| 18:09.07 | JoseJX2 | I have a wifi card for the CF slot |
| 18:09.40 | hrw | JoseJX2: we probably can find unused 5500 |
| 18:09.55 | JoseJX2 | It's okay, I'm otherwise happy with my 5000D. |
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| 18:10.20 | JoseJX2 | I just need to buy a new backup battery at some point and find the time to solder it in :) |
| 18:10.22 | hrw | hi xora |
| 18:10.32 | hrw | JoseJX2: no need to solder |
| 18:10.41 | hrw | JoseJX2: and most of collie lack that battery |
| 18:10.45 | JoseJX2 | Oh really? That's much easier then |
| 18:10.49 | JoseJX2 | Hmm really? |
| 18:11.17 | JoseJX2 | I thought that losing the data on reset was a symptom of a dead battery |
| 18:11.57 | hrw | data from flash or mtdram? |
| 18:12.07 | JoseJX2 | ramdisk |
| 18:12.17 | JoseJX2 | Isn't it supposed to have a battery backup for that? |
| 18:12.49 | JoseJX2 | I haven't looked into it all that much |
| 18:14.13 | hvontres|poodle | JoseJX2: you're probbably better off using the RAM as RAM anyways |
| 18:14.33 | JoseJX2 | hvontres|poodle: Yep, that's the conclusion I came to as well. :) |
| 18:14.40 | JoseJX2 | 32MB isn't all that much anyway |
| 18:16.04 | hvontres|poodle | JoseJX2: If I remember correctly, the 5000D still uses SMD RAM chips, so in theory, it could be upgraded with only minor pain, As opposed to a 5500 or newer machine, which all use BGA's |
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| 18:17.01 | JoseJX2 | hvontres|poodle: I'll have to open it and see :) |
| 18:17.55 | hrw | JoseJX2: http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=368 for backup battery |
| 18:18.08 | hrw | JoseJX2: and http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=11337 |
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| 18:20.27 | JoseJX2 | Cool, thanks |
| 18:21.53 | hrw | sometimes 9h time diff helps |
| 18:23.37 | koen | hmmm |
| 18:24.53 | kergoth | koen: i always set TARGET_VENDOR just in case arch/os of build matches target, want to make damn sure autoconf doesnt think its native when it isnt |
| 18:24.56 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:25.30 | Crofton | would I be correct in thinking m4 autconf macros may look in /usr/... and cause problems with OE? |
| 18:26.04 | kergoth | shouldnt. autoconf-native was built with a prefix in staging |
| 18:26.35 | Crofton | I am thinking the problem is stuff theat ends up in aclocal.d |
| 18:27.25 | hrw | hmm.. my gfx card lost xvideo ;( |
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| 18:27.56 | hrw | mplayer -zoom -xy 1280 -vo x11 is not daemon of speed.. |
| 18:27.58 | hrw | hi leoncamel |
| 18:28.48 | leoncamel | hrw, hey |
| 18:28.50 | leoncamel | hrw, so. what are you talk about ? mplayer on arm ? |
| 18:29.43 | hrw | leoncamel: no - on my x86 desktop my gfxcard lost xvideo - just show blue window |
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| 18:30.28 | leoncamel | hrw, remote login and play video ? |
| 18:30.45 | hrw | leoncamel: no |
| 18:31.31 | leoncamel | hrw, :). no idea . |
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| 18:44.03 | koen | kergoth: that's the problem, target-vendor is set |
| 18:44.18 | koen | kergoth: but it looks like multimachine.bbclass doesn't include it |
| 18:44.27 | koen | (haven't looked at it, just guessing) |
| 18:51.14 | hrw | ~poky |
| 18:51.36 | ibot | i heard poky is http://projects.o-hand.com/poky, or a subset of OpenEmbedded, created by o-hand.com to testdrive some of their technology |
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| 19:00.35 | koen | hrw: ewi is going to be moved to a new lab soon, so it will be down for some hours |
| 19:00.48 | hrw | koen: noticed |
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| 19:00.58 | koen | hrw: but thanks to bureaucracy I get to keep it for a while :) |
| 19:01.03 | hrw | koen: have to think how to resolve OZ feeds now |
| 19:01.22 | hrw | and where to put that 7G of stuff. |
| 19:01.23 | cyrilRomain | good evening #oe ! |
| 19:01.24 | koen | doesn't feeds.hentges.net cover that? |
| 19:01.28 | koen | hey cyrilRomain |
| 19:01.34 | cyrilRomain | hi koen |
| 19:01.54 | hrw | koen: it do but cannot be used as primary machine |
| 19:02.07 | hrw | koen: bandwidth costs |
| 19:02.10 | hrw | hi cyrilRomain |
| 19:02.38 | hrw | koen: too bad that company where I work has problems with storage now.. |
| 19:03.11 | hrw | koen: if not that then I would probably be able to get some GB there and no transfer limits maybe even |
| 19:04.07 | koen | zecke and I want to get a new colo box |
| 19:04.13 | koen | most likely under the ltg banner |
| 19:05.06 | hrw | ~lart being non-profit |
| 19:05.23 | koen | it looks like ewi will be up till OEDEM, so we can discuss it there |
| 19:08.29 | kergoth | koen: ahh |
| 19:08.54 | kergoth | koen: maybe it should just use TARGET_SYS then |
| 19:09.05 | chouimat | hi kergoth |
| 19:11.36 | kergoth | hey |
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| 19:16.36 | hrw | cu all |
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| 19:37.25 | CIA-9 | mdev: Add proper firmware loading support to mdev |
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| 20:38.09 | RP | hrw|gone: pong |
| 20:38.11 | CosmicPenguin | Sigh - we could really use GIT targets for all the X stuff |
| 20:38.11 | CosmicPenguin | I keep getting complaints that the Geode driver isn't working for 7.2 |
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| 20:44.16 | koen|away | CosmicPenguin: feel free to add them :) |
| 20:45.45 | CosmicPenguin | thanks |
| 20:45.53 | CosmicPenguin | ~lart my firewall |
| 20:46.05 | CosmicPenguin | ~lart projects that don't make development snapshots |
| 20:46.24 | CosmicPenguin | I can only do HTTP GIT |
| 20:46.28 | CosmicPenguin | which limits me greatly |
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| 20:47.42 | CosmicPenguin | especially, lart X for not providing development snapshots |
| 20:47.57 | koen | does our git fetcher understand http git? |
| 20:48.49 | CosmicPenguin | looks like it |
| 20:49.03 | CosmicPenguin | lets see if it works |
| 20:49.29 | koen | you could fetch a git tree at home and throw the tarball our way and use that as SRC_URI |
| 20:49.44 | CosmicPenguin | yeah - but thats always so messy |
| 20:49.54 | blaster8 | at least it's predictable... |
| 20:50.09 | CosmicPenguin | but only as predictable as I am |
| 20:50.16 | CosmicPenguin | there's something to be said for pulling "official" sources |
| 20:50.22 | blaster8 | true |
| 20:50.46 | koen | except when 'official' means 'darcs using hippies' |
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| 20:51.28 | Crofton | koen, who might that be? |
| 20:52.20 | koen | Crofton: any project that uses darcs :) |
| 20:52.22 | koen | "The display in the hardware is based off of the Geode GX2. One of the folks at AMD has written an EXA driver for the hardware" |
| 20:52.40 | CosmicPenguin | Those bastards! |
| 20:53.00 | CosmicPenguin | Thats AMD for you - always doing something stupid |
| 20:53.23 | koen | " in order to hit our targets for operating system footprint (100MB of flash used) we need to remove a lot of unused bits from the set of packages we’re including." |
| 20:53.29 | koen | poor redhat people |
| 20:53.35 | CosmicPenguin | koen: how did you get your hands on that blog engry? |
| 20:53.40 | CosmicPenguin | s/engry/entry/ |
| 20:53.41 | CosmicPenguin | ? |
| 20:53.49 | koen | planet.gnome.org |
| 20:54.04 | CosmicPenguin | Wow - they are fast |
| 20:54.14 | koen | http://www.0xdeadbeef.com/weblog/?p=222 |
| 20:54.19 | kergoth | hahah |
| 20:54.26 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah - he just posted that like 5 minutes ago in #olpc |
| 20:56.28 | koen | I hit 'refresh' in my news reader a few minutes ago :) |
| 20:56.28 | blaster8 | '100MB might sound like a pretty low number but we’re pretty sure we can make that.' |
| 20:56.35 | koen | heh |
| 20:56.56 | blaster8 | I distinctly remember building a uclibc OS that was under 2MB compressed |
| 20:56.57 | koen | We've been squeezing X + mb + gpe in 14 mb for some time now |
| 20:57.03 | blaster8 | hehe |
| 20:57.15 | koen | people have gotten X + mb + custom tools in <8MB |
| 20:57.19 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 20:57.25 | blaster8 | they are probably not using compression, I bet |
| 20:57.28 | CosmicPenguin | jffs2 |
| 20:57.36 | blaster8 | oh they are, good :) |
| 20:57.46 | blaster8 | still JFFS2 is mighty slow on big disks |
| 20:57.57 | koen | they have patches for that |
| 20:58.18 | koen | dwmw2 got a board sometime ago |
| 20:58.19 | CosmicPenguin | And we have the MTD god on our side |
| 20:58.32 | koen | around the time the yaffs2 people were trying to get their stuff into the kernel |
| 20:58.46 | CosmicPenguin | The redhat image has lots of junk in t |
| 20:58.47 | blaster8 | ~impressed |
| 20:58.48 | CosmicPenguin | it |
| 20:58.50 | CosmicPenguin | for example - perl |
| 20:58.57 | koen | and python |
| 20:59.02 | CosmicPenguin | he |
| 20:59.02 | CosmicPenguin | h |
| 20:59.06 | CosmicPenguin | well - python isn't going anywhere |
| 20:59.14 | CosmicPenguin | for better or worse |
| 20:59.34 | kergoth | i wish someone would build something capable based on scons |
| 20:59.47 | kergoth | scons is too low level, everybody ends up implementing shit in thieir own way, so nothing is standard |
| 20:59.50 | kergoth | meh |
| 20:59.52 | zecke | CosmicPenguin: hehe |
| 21:00.01 | zecke | CosmicPenguin: they are investigating where perl comes from ;) |
| 21:00.05 | koen | kergoth: that's why kde dumped it and switched to cmake |
| 21:00.13 | CosmicPenguin | sugar has an obscene number of dependancies |
| 21:00.14 | kergoth | that one, waf, looked promising |
| 21:00.17 | kergoth | havent checked it out in a while though |
| 21:01.00 | koen | http://public.kitware.com/Dart/HTML/Index.shtml has some nice buzzwords as well |
| 21:01.19 | zecke | koen: are you at aKademy as well? |
| 21:01.22 | koen | waf makes me think of frank herberts Dune |
| 21:01.34 | Crofton | who is this Jordan Crouse person .... |
| 21:01.49 | koen | Crofton: CosmicPenguin = Jordan Crouse |
| 21:01.54 | Crofton | :) |
| 21:02.15 | CosmicPenguin | He's a dick |
| 21:02.30 | Crofton | talking to redhat people and everything |
| 21:02.42 | CosmicPenguin | I have been secretly running OE images the whole time |
| 21:02.44 | suihkulokki | approximatly how much power do zaurii/ipaq's consume power when idling with linux? |
| 21:03.26 | koen | suihkulokki: with or without lcd+backlight? |
| 21:03.55 | koen | "too much" probably, since they're using xscales |
| 21:03.59 | suihkulokki | koen: either way |
| 21:04.26 | koen | I remember RP doing some tests |
| 21:04.46 | koen | 100 mA comes to mind, but I don't now wether that's full load or idling |
| 21:05.05 | koen | (and yes, mA isn't power, I know) |
| 21:05.34 | suihkulokki | that's with 3.3V ? so it would be about 330mW |
| 21:05.45 | koen | 4.7 iirc |
| 21:07.41 | suihkulokki | roger |
| 21:08.57 | suihkulokki | OLPC people are reporting that their system has reached "only 3W" consumption when idling |
| 21:09.26 | koen | they do have a bigger screen |
| 21:09.56 | suihkulokki | http://www.0xdeadbeef.com/weblog/?p=222 |
| 21:10.30 | CosmicPenguin | My measurements are higher,but I have this power sapping dcon FPGA on mine |
| 21:11.32 | koen | CosmicPenguin: are you still using OE to build the bios? |
| 21:11.39 | CosmicPenguin | no |
| 21:11.58 | koen | ah, too bad |
| 21:11.59 | CosmicPenguin | http://dev.laptop.org/git.do?p=users/jcrouse/buildrom;a=summary |
| 21:12.11 | CosmicPenguin | OE is too heavy for the BIOS |
| 21:12.57 | zecke | CosmicPenguin: hmm I should have given you a minimal OE :( |
| 21:13.17 | CosmicPenguin | Its just not that complicated |
| 21:13.42 | CosmicPenguin | we don't need dependancy tracking or a solid variable namespace |
| 21:14.20 | CosmicPenguin | trust me- I would have used bitbake if we had needed it |
| 21:14.22 | koen | I'm only asking since my workstation is supposed to have linuxbios support as well |
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| 21:14.38 | CosmicPenguin | I believe that ray pushed up a LB target |
| 21:14.49 | CosmicPenguin | Its probably possible to put together something with OE |
| 21:15.21 | koen | CosmicPenguin: http://www.openembedded.org/viewmtn/revision.psp?id=090b60f3cd2b37a02d6dd0e3e8f854462cd2ea1e |
| 21:16.37 | koen | seeing that ubuntu managed to break my "long term support" install of dapper twice in the past month, I'm seriously considering running and OE built distro |
| 21:16.39 | CosmicPenguin | koen: hmm - I don't see 2462 in LB |
| 21:16.53 | CosmicPenguin | [jcrouse:mainboard]$ ls tyan/ |
| 21:16.54 | CosmicPenguin | s2735 s2875 s2881 s2885 s2892 s4880 |
| 21:16.54 | CosmicPenguin | s2850 s2880 s2882 s2891 s2895 s4882 |
| 21:16.57 | koen | it was supported by LB a few years ago |
| 21:17.03 | CosmicPenguin | Oh - did they drop it? |
| 21:17.19 | CosmicPenguin | thats stupid |
| 21:17.23 | CosmicPenguin | hold on - I was in a dumb area |
| 21:17.45 | CosmicPenguin | It must be similar to something else |
| 21:18.02 | koen | http://www.mail-archive.com/linuxbios@listman.lanl.gov/msg04985.html |
| 21:18.40 | CosmicPenguin | oh, we suck |
| 21:19.02 | koen | 2462 = "thunder K7" |
| 21:19.45 | koen | running and OE build 'distro' inside my bios chip would be 1337 |
| 21:19.56 | koen | (pardon my speech) |
| 21:20.20 | CosmicPenguin | No - its pretty neat |
| 21:20.24 | CosmicPenguin | I really like the whole LB idea |
| 21:20.49 | CosmicPenguin | And the geek in me smiles at the OLPC "bootloader" kexecing a bigger kernel from the small kernel |
| 21:25.24 | koen | I've been thinking about using some nommu and linuxtiny patches to make a small kernel with uclibc + busybox + kexectools in to the kernel partition in some devices |
| 21:25.56 | CosmicPenguin | thats just almost exactly what we are doing with olpc |
| 21:26.01 | koen | insert 'initramfs' somehwere above |
| 21:26.48 | koen | and bribe some demoscene dudes to make some 3d rotating boot menu |
| 21:26.54 | CosmicPenguin | 3d rotating? |
| 21:26.56 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 21:27.00 | CosmicPenguin | I'm not nearly that leet |
| 21:27.05 | CosmicPenguin | my bootmenu only does 2d |
| 21:27.05 | koen | in ~5k |
| 21:27.31 | CosmicPenguin | but I might make it do xfig |
| 21:28.18 | koen | I love the bootloader on my sgi indigo2 machines |
| 21:28.33 | koen | and the one one my sparc5 is pretty decent as well |
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| 21:29.16 | koen | anyway |
| 21:29.21 | koen | 'night all |
| 21:33.47 | CosmicPenguin | gah |
| 21:33.54 | CosmicPenguin | ~lart gentoo |
| 21:35.20 | CosmicPenguin | why isn't curl support for git built in automagically? |
| 21:38.07 | JustinP | CosmicPenguin: perhaps you didn't set curl in yoru USE flags for git? |
| 21:38.12 | CosmicPenguin | yeah - but still |
| 21:38.15 | JustinP | CosmicPenguin: or perhaps you have -curl somewhere? |
| 21:38.21 | CosmicPenguin | I shouldn't have to go out of my way to select it |
| 21:38.22 | JustinP | easy to fix |
| 21:38.38 | JustinP | echo "app-devel/git curl" >> /usr/portage/package.use |
| 21:38.39 | CosmicPenguin | They're really serious about encouraging the git:// protocol |
| 21:39.14 | kergoth | theres a ietf draft for ssh urls, i wonder if curl supports that yet |
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| 21:41.42 | zecke | wow MontaVista uses directFB |
| 21:49.48 | CIA-9 | 03lenehan 07org.oe.documentation * r4c3c0276... 10/ (1 usermanual/reference/var_src_uri.xml): |
| 21:49.48 | CIA-9 | SRC_URI: Support for tar.Z in SRC_URI was added to OE, update the |
| 21:49.48 | CIA-9 | documentation include it as well. |
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| 21:51.32 | CoreDump|home | hi |
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| 21:53.08 | RP | CosmicPenguin: Did you get sugar running under OE in the end? |
| 21:54.09 | CosmicPenguin | yeah |
| 21:54.11 | CosmicPenguin | most of it |
| 21:54.19 | CosmicPenguin | well - actually |
| 21:54.24 | CosmicPenguin | I got the login screen... :) |
| 21:54.35 | CosmicPenguin | The main stuff need avahi - which just wouldn't build for me in OE |
| 21:54.41 | CosmicPenguin | and I didn't want to dick with it too much more |
| 21:54.41 | RP | That's good enough for me ;-) |
| 21:54.52 | RP | Strange, avahi works in poky... |
| 21:54.58 | CosmicPenguin | I should compare them |
| 21:55.02 | CosmicPenguin | it might be a x86_64 issue |
| 21:55.20 | RP | Perhaps. I'm stuck in the past with 32 bit. Safer ;-) |
| 21:55.31 | RP | Have you waved one of the OE images at the olpc people? |
| 21:55.48 | CosmicPenguin | no way I'm stirring up that hornet's nest |
| 21:55.51 | hrw | re |
| 21:56.18 | hrw | I got first OE related job ;) |
| 21:56.18 | RP | CosmicPenguin: I can't say I blame you :-( |
| 21:56.26 | RP | hrw: congrats :) |
| 21:56.47 | RP | CosmicPenguin: There's no way some info/an image could slip out? |
| 21:58.19 | RP | I guess I also have mixed feelings as something the size of redhat could take over and destroy OE |
| 21:58.29 | CosmicPenguin | There is no reason why the OE or poky metadata can't have an olpc targeted image |
| 21:58.31 | CosmicPenguin | after all - its open source |
| 21:58.47 | RP | indeed :) |
| 21:58.47 | hvontres|poodle | hrw: Congratulations on getting a job for OE stuff... I am asuming it's a paying gig, right? |
| 21:58.53 | CosmicPenguin | but we're just not going to convince OLPC to dump RH |
| 21:59.07 | CosmicPenguin | which is probably a good thing in the end - we've got all the RH brains working on OLPC, which is a good thing for the project |
| 21:59.21 | CosmicPenguin | RP: | ../avahi-common/.libs/libavahi-common.so: undefined reference to `rpl_realloc' |
| 21:59.21 | RP | CosmicPenguin: Dumping RH wasn't what I had in mind |
| 21:59.27 | hrw | hvontres|poodle: quite nice paying |
| 21:59.59 | hvontres|poodle | hrw: I guess it's time to save for a nice laptop to replace your athlon headache :) |
| 22:00.25 | hrw | hvontres|poodle: 1000 EUR for cheapest turion64x2 |
| 22:01.05 | hrw | CosmicPenguin: you being amd guy - what do you think about t64x2? |
| 22:01.22 | RP | CosmicPenguin: google on that |
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| 22:01.32 | Hrww | re |
| 22:01.34 | ggilbert | RP: I personally suspect the project is going to die a horribly flaming death at some point, so letting redhat deal with it seems like a good thing :) |
| 22:01.37 | CosmicPenguin | hrw: I have real trouble recommending AMD parts for mobile |
| 22:01.52 | Hrww | midnight - ewi connection broke |
| 22:02.28 | Hrww | CosmicPenguin: ok |
| 22:02.50 | CosmicPenguin | I'm not very satisfied with my laptop |
| 22:03.10 | RP | ggilbert: I know what you mean :) |
| 22:03.14 | CosmicPenguin | I'm a company man and all - but I cna't go against the facts |
| 22:03.15 | Hrww | CosmicPenguin: neither do I with my desktop |
| 22:03.25 | CosmicPenguin | Servers? yeah - amd all the awy |
| 22:03.37 | CosmicPenguin | laptops - there are bettter implementations out there |
| 22:03.43 | CosmicPenguin | and I say that from a mobile standpoint - power and heat |
| 22:03.53 | psokolovsky | CosmicPenguin, rpl_realloc error can be common crosscompile issue when configure can't run exe's and assume realloc is broken. |
| 22:03.54 | RP | I was bitten by AMD once too often several years ago :-/ |
| 22:03.57 | CosmicPenguin | if you are only going to ever keep your laptop on a desk plugged in, then sure, get an AMD part |
| 22:05.14 | Hrww | the good point is that familiar-unstable will get less popular soon.. |
| 22:05.36 | RP | Hrww: why? |
| 22:06.07 | ljp | anyone know how to find out if symbol visibility is implented in a system/binary? |
| 22:06.08 | Hrww | RP: celf use it for omap-osk machine |
| 22:07.03 | RP | Hrww: ah |
| 22:07.22 | Crofton | celf must have done their own machine file ... |
| 22:08.54 | Hrww | RP: I have to reidentify.. |
| 22:09.08 | RP | Hrww: ah, ok |
| 22:09.58 | CosmicPenguin | ahh - ok |
| 22:10.02 | hrw|work | done |
| 22:10.43 | CosmicPenguin | the x86 site files haven't been updated with ac_cv_func_realloc_0_nonnull |
| 22:12.25 | CosmicPenguin | NOTE: package xserver-xorg-1.1.0+git20060906: completed |
| 22:12.27 | CosmicPenguin | hmm |
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| 22:15.53 | CosmicPenguin | now /me needs avahi-python |
| 22:15.54 | hrw|work | RP: btw my ping today... |
| 22:16.15 | hrw|work | RP: I think that machine/distro features will get extended soon |
| 22:16.28 | hrw|work | RP: s/ext2/internal-cf-storage |
| 22:16.45 | hrw|work | RP: usb-host usb-gadget usb-wlanng namespaces |
| 22:17.11 | RP | hrw|work: That's fine, what's there was always intended to be a first draft :) |
| 22:17.14 | hrw|work | RP: I want also to kill^Wreplace zaurus-clamshell-2.6.conf with zaurus-2.6.conf |
| 22:17.33 | RP | hrw|work: also fine with me |
| 22:17.46 | hrw|work | RP: also kill of zaurus-clamshell-2.4.conf and rest of 2.4 for clamshells |
| 22:18.14 | RP | Once it was for clamshells but that has changes a bit as the other 2.6 ports have caught up. We also have a lot less info in there to worry about now |
| 22:18.41 | v8jlene | I should try and see if I can make the distro features stuff work for my distro as well. Since I'm doing router/firewall stuff the requirements are a bit different. |
| 22:18.48 | hrw|work | RP: list of features need to be longer |
| 22:19.22 | hrw|work | RP: bluetooth -> usb-bluetooth, serial-bluetooth, cf-bluetooth |
| 22:19.29 | hrw|work | hm.. no. |
| 22:19.43 | RP | no :) |
| 22:19.46 | hrw|work | machine feature usb-bluetooth or serial-bluetooth |
| 22:20.13 | hrw|work | machine which feature pcmcia automatically can get pcmcia-wifi pcmcia-bt pcmcia-serial etc... |
| 22:20.29 | RP | you could say the same for usb |
| 22:21.01 | hrw|work | RP: usb-wifi == usb-wlanng usb-zd1211 usb-ralink (and some more follow) |
| 22:21.26 | hrw|work | big granulity.. |
| 22:21.56 | RP | hrw|work: The built in wifi modules might be best specified as machine options |
| 22:22.27 | hrw|work | RP: what if I want to have wifiless distro on tosa? |
| 22:23.00 | RP | hrw|work: Hmmm. How likely is that? :) |
| 22:23.02 | hrw|work | RP: machine_features = 'usb-wlanng' but distro_features does not contain 'wifi'... |
| 22:23.28 | hrw|work | RP: it is possible... |
| 22:23.36 | RP | If you think that will be a problem, create usb-wlanng |
| 22:23.43 | hrw|work | RP: I plan to |
| 22:24.17 | RP | I don't think we have to cover every possible option. All I intended was to create something that could do so, if we needed it to |
| 22:25.10 | hrw|work | RP: sure |
| 22:25.28 | hrw|work | RP: but why not giving wlan-ng-modules by default for cxx00? |
| 22:26.00 | hrw|work | RP: whey have usb-host and distro has wifi so it can get usb-wlanng/usb-ralink/usb-zd1211 in rootfs by default |
| 22:26.01 | RP | hrw|work: Do people have cards that use that driver? |
| 22:26.18 | hrw|work | RP: I was close to get one |
| 22:26.43 | hrw|work | wlanng crap card is 50% of zd1211 or ralink one |
| 22:26.55 | RP | In general, people using usb-host will probably expect to install modules... |
| 22:27.38 | hrw|work | RP: spitz ones has internal-cf-storage... |
| 22:28.09 | RP | hrw|work: Its tricky :) |
| 22:28.49 | hrw|work | RP: .dev/task-base is same as poky one? |
| 22:29.39 | RP | hrw|work: near enough, yes |
| 22:29.43 | hrw|work | k |
| 22:31.12 | hrw|work | RP: http://pastebin.ca/183433 |
| 22:31.56 | hrw|work | RP: if I will not be so tired like I was today after work I will work on it |
| 22:32.14 | RP | hrw|work: Looks good but what the spaces with append |
| 22:32.21 | RP | s/what/watch/ |
| 22:32.46 | hrw|work | yep |
| 22:33.23 | CoreDump|home | ~curse the god damn sky2 driver |
| 22:33.32 | ibot | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, the god damn sky2 driver ! |
| 22:35.24 | hrw|work | hmm.. at work I have over 4k recipes.. |
| 22:35.26 | hrw|work | have to update |
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| 22:37.56 | hrw|work | ok. time to sleep |
| 22:37.57 | hrw|work | cu |
| 22:38.05 | RP | 'night hrw|gone |
| 22:38.12 | CoreDump|home | n8 hrw|gone |
| 22:38.23 | hrw|gone | n8 guys |
| 22:53.05 | CIA-9 | 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r9d592baa... 10/ (14 files in 2 dirs): |
| 22:53.06 | CIA-9 | perl: Add some additional perl modules. This are the optional dependencies |
| 22:53.06 | CIA-9 | of libmodule-build, the new Build.PL based perl install system. |
| 22:54.37 | CIA-9 | 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r0612bd80... 10/ (1 packages/perl/libio-zlib-perl_1.04.bb): |
| 22:54.37 | CIA-9 | perl: Add libio-zlib perl module which I forget to add in the previous |
| 22:54.37 | CIA-9 | commit. |
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| 23:17.53 | CIA-9 | 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r1efdf395... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 23:17.53 | CIA-9 | perl: Add the libmodule-build perl module. This is required for anything |
| 23:17.53 | CIA-9 | using the new Build.PL build system, *expect* for libmodule-build itself |
| 23:17.53 | CIA-9 | which can bootstrap itself. |
| 23:25.05 | CosmicPenguin | bah |
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