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| 08:21.45 | vlo | good morning everyone |
| 08:24.02 | Genesis | bonjour vlo |
| 08:24.11 | Genesis | hello |
| 08:26.30 | koen | good morning everyone |
| 08:26.37 | hrw | morning |
| 08:28.01 | vlo | good morning koen, hrw |
| 08:29.29 | den-ros | hi koen, hi hrw, hi vlo, Genesis and hi all |
| 08:30.33 | hrw | devkitidp-pxa255-kernel_2.6.11.bb - who maintain it? |
| 08:30.47 | Genesis | koen, : so have you try AGG ? |
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| 08:31.16 | Genesis | hrw, : i think we shouldn't removed the maintener section in bb files :( |
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| 08:33.32 | hrw | -rw-r--r-- 1 hrw hrw 17927528 Dec 14 00:48 gpe-image-collie-20061213223736.rootfs.jffs2 |
| 08:33.50 | hrw | collie in .dev suxx |
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| 08:55.57 | koen | hrw: gnutils 1.6.0 fails to build for powerpc |
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| 08:58.23 | hrw | koen: then fix it - works for arm and x86 |
| 08:59.12 | hrw | koen: Debian has it built for powerpc without patching |
| 08:59.58 | koen | I suspect it's related to libstc++.la b0rkage |
| 09:00.17 | hrw | so you have broken toolchain? |
| 09:00.41 | koen | powerpc makes the breakage more obvious |
| 09:00.46 | koen | see XorA|goner's mail to the list |
| 09:02.00 | hrw | I saw that |
| 09:03.13 | hrw | opieII thread is going to be more and more interesting |
| 09:03.36 | koen | I hope lorn unbreaks the 'release' and build system |
| 09:04.44 | hrw | I do not |
| 09:05.36 | hrw | bye - time to go to work |
| 09:06.59 | XorA | morning |
| 09:07.14 | koen | hey XorA |
| 09:09.16 | koen | | powerpc-angstrom-linux-gcc -mcpu=603e -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -isystem/data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/staging/powerpc-angstrom-linux/include -I/data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/staging/i686-angstrom-linux/include -I/data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/staging/i686-angstrom-linux/include -MT keyserver.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/keyserver.Tpo -c keyserver.c -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/keyserver.o |
| 09:09.20 | koen | spot the error |
| 09:10.03 | koen | XorA: libmudflap and libsupc++ la files need sedding as well |
| 09:10.18 | XorA | koen: I suspect all *.la in cross do |
| 09:10.37 | XorA | WTF is libmudflap?? |
| 09:10.41 | koen | those a the only only with i686 according to grep |
| 09:10.53 | koen | libmudflap is some gcc thingo |
| 09:11.51 | XorA | koen: wierd reports on c860 flashing |
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| 09:32.26 | koen | hrw|gone: NOTE: package gnutls-1.6.0-r2: task do_build: completed |
| 09:32.41 | koen | hrw|gone: that's after sedding out -I/staging/i686 |
| 09:34.06 | hrw|work | re |
| 09:34.51 | koen | hrw|work: what happens if you build gnutls 1.6.0 for arm after you built a progear image? |
| 09:35.17 | hrw|work | koen: I do not have such builddir |
| 09:35.38 | hrw|work | http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tinderbox/showbuilds.pl?tree=OpenEmbeddedBuilds looks ok |
| 09:39.02 | koen | !oebug 1682 |
| 09:39.04 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 1682, Status: NEW, Created: 2006-12-14 01:40 |
| 09:39.04 | cdbot2 | * * koen(AT)dominion.kabel.utwente.nl: gnutls suffers from cross-build contamination |
| 09:39.05 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1682 |
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| 09:58.26 | koen | all hail QA meister zecke |
| 09:58.29 | koen | ~hail zecke |
| 09:58.31 | ibot | ACTION bows down to zecke and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 09:59.05 | zecke | yeah, I need that *shivers* and waits for his exam(ination) at two o'clock |
| 10:00.44 | koen | hals und beinbruch |
| 10:01.05 | zecke | hehe nice :) |
| 10:01.45 | XorA | zecke: bluetooth yah brain and we will google for you |
| 10:02.28 | zecke | koen: I think I will try to have a lightning talk as well... using kergoth's notes on buildsystem |
| 10:02.43 | zecke | "Fix your fucking buildsystem - god damn it" will be the title :) |
| 10:03.30 | zecke | I will pass the abstract through the censorship department though... |
| 10:04.50 | zecke | or do we have a better talk for OE? |
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| 10:22.22 | Ifaistos | zecke : hi ! |
| 10:22.40 | zecke | hey |
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| 10:23.07 | Ifaistos | zecke : check #1495 i have posted a patch for icecc |
| 10:23.47 | Ifaistos | zecke : cross compilling works. now trying to get native and cross-kernel supported |
| 10:24.02 | zecke | awesome :) |
| 10:24.46 | Ifaistos | zecke : i am thinking of moving the "blacklists" in variables which can be set from local.conf. What do you think ? |
| 10:25.57 | zecke | Ifaistos: sure, default to a default though :) |
| 10:26.18 | koen | Ifaistos: icecc.bbclass needs to check for ICECC_PATH instead of assuming it's set |
| 10:26.19 | zecke | getVar('TARGET_FPU', d, True) as we want to have TARGET_FPU expanded in all cases |
| 10:27.03 | Ifaistos | koen : ok. will do that |
| 10:28.44 | zecke | Ifaistos: --silent is new for icecc-create-env? |
| 10:28.47 | zecke | Ifaistos: anything else? |
| 10:29.17 | zecke | added_gcc is new as well? |
| 10:29.17 | Ifaistos | zecke : You can set the as and define the output path/filename for the tar |
| 10:29.45 | zecke | Ifaistos: talk to coolo and ask if we is interested in a proper patch |
| 10:31.25 | Ifaistos | zecke : basicaly is "compatible" with the standard icecc-create-env which expects only gcc/g++ as arguments plus it adds a couple more functions |
| 10:31.34 | vlo | AND R0, R0, R0 looks like a good old NOP on ARM right ? |
| 10:32.13 | zecke | Ifaistos: okay well, I will take a look at the diff and push it to the icecream svn |
| 10:32.33 | zecke | Ifaistos: and you rock :) |
| 10:33.30 | koen | vlo: mov r0,r0 |
| 10:33.42 | koen | that's the canonical NOP for arm |
| 10:33.51 | koen | but yours looks like one as well :) |
| 10:33.57 | XorA | and isnt a NOP |
| 10:34.04 | XorA | it will update the flags register |
| 10:34.39 | vlo | cause that's what my mx31 is doing all the time after (my guess) init dies ... |
| 10:35.34 | vlo | or quits ... |
| 10:35.51 | vlo | which shouldn't happen |
| 10:39.10 | Ifaistos | zecke : Thanks ! Well this was my first bbclass work ;) |
| 10:41.11 | zecke | hrw|work: I will look into the coreutils-native failure on edgy |
| 10:43.27 | Jin^eLD | re |
| 10:46.29 | hrw|work | ok |
| 10:49.40 | hrw|work | zecke: "bmz c7x0 E-17" will go after repull |
| 10:50.40 | vlo | is there something which easily allows you to build a program with -g option for debug ? |
| 10:50.53 | zecke | sure |
| 10:51.08 | zecke | set the optimisation flag variable |
| 10:52.15 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r1274d84a... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 10:52.15 | CIA-4 | epsilon: fix includes, closes #1623 (from .dev) |
| 10:52.15 | CIA-4 | applied changes from 2ff0b12bedc3fd85cd0cbbce60e7586f5ae352b5 (.dev) |
| 10:52.15 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:53.51 | vlo | thx zecke |
| 10:53.58 | hrw|work | fscking konq/emb |
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| 10:54.11 | zecke | hrw|work: no not konqe |
| 10:54.22 | Laibsch | good morning! |
| 10:54.25 | zecke | hrw|work: fscking kde1/2/3 buildsystem |
| 10:54.27 | koen | hey Laibsch |
| 10:55.13 | Laibsch | OE is just building grep-native for me. Couldn't we assume this as provided? I guess all modern distros have grep as default. |
| 10:55.42 | koen | gnu grep? |
| 10:55.57 | zecke | Laibsch: ;) |
| 10:56.31 | zecke | Laibsch: all modern __GNU linux__ distributions might have GNU grep installed |
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| 10:57.36 | zecke | Laibsch: same applies for GNU make, GNU sed, GNU cp, GNU find :) |
| 11:01.01 | Laibsch | OK, so it seems like this does not make sense as default. But it will apply to quite many users. Anyone setting this in local.conf and willing to share what they assume as provided? |
| 11:01.29 | Laibsch | I guess it should be worth the effort. |
| 11:01.41 | hrw|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:01.47 | hrw|work | dbus security |
| 11:05.16 | zecke | okay later |
| 11:05.19 | hrw|work | zecke: can you try coreutils 5.3.0 from .dev? |
| 11:05.36 | zecke | will look into it |
| 11:07.25 | hrw|work | hi Cliff |
| 11:11.06 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r8ed5d163... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): dbus 1.0.1: apply patch to fix CVE-2006-6107 |
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| 11:19.09 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r5a6cf1f2... 10/ (1 packages/dbus/dbus.inc): dbus.inc: glib-2.0 isn't needed any more |
| 11:25.39 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r5ab38f8d... 10/ (10 files in 4 dirs): dbus: add 1.0.2 |
| 11:25.51 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r01463f0f... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf): angstrom: prefer dbus 1.0.2 |
| 11:27.34 | cbrake | hrw|work: hello Marcin |
| 11:27.45 | Laibsch | hrw|work: over 60 bugs fixed over the course of the last week and only 30 new bugs openened. |
| 11:27.56 | hrw|work | Laibsch: which is good |
| 11:28.09 | Laibsch | yes, good work! |
| 11:28.12 | hrw|work | ERROR: Build of /home/hrw/devel/oe/org.openembedded.dev/packages/poboxserver/poboxserver_1.2.5.bb do_fetch failed |
| 11:28.21 | Laibsch | oh? |
| 11:28.29 | hrw|work | retrying on other machine |
| 11:28.30 | Laibsch | Lemme take a look. |
| 11:29.33 | Laibsch | yes, seems like the server has changed. |
| 11:29.41 | Laibsch | I'll investigate and fix. |
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| 11:31.03 | Laibsch | It is still linked from his own homepage. I'll just host the source on gakusei.sf.net |
| 11:31.56 | hrw|work | 12:30:07 ERROR 404: Not Found. |
| 11:33.17 | hrw|work | Laibsch: ok |
| 11:45.47 | mickeyl | morning |
| 11:45.58 | hrw|work | hi mickeyl |
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| 11:48.50 | hrw|work | http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/14/puppybot-has-a-nokia-770-for-a-head/ |
| 11:49.07 | mickeyl | cool stuff |
| 11:49.21 | mickeyl | next year i'm buying one of those robot construction sets |
| 11:49.25 | mickeyl | just dunno which one yet |
| 11:49.33 | mickeyl | will put a Neo1973 as head :D |
| 11:49.41 | mickeyl | although it lacks a camera |
| 11:51.59 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r3da2caa6... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): u2nl: update to 1.3 |
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| 11:57.02 | zecke | http://jobs.apple.com/index.ajs?BID=1&method=mExternal.showJob&RID=27&CurrentPage=1 <- wow apple offers nice jobs |
| 11:59.39 | Ifaistos | zecke : what's the best way to evaluate if a parameter passed from local.conf is empty ? |
| 12:00.16 | zecke | s = getVar('FOO') or "default" |
| 12:01.17 | Ifaistos | zecke : can default be an expression ? os.popen blah blah ? |
| 12:01.38 | zecke | sure |
| 12:01.51 | zecke | if getVar('FOO') returns none the right site is evaluated |
| 12:02.45 | Ifaistos | zecke : thanks |
| 12:04.05 | Ifaistos | zecke : i have a 7 machine cluster compiling now (6 i686 and one amd64).... now it seems configure takes for ever to finish :) |
| 12:04.41 | zecke | hehe |
| 12:04.49 | zecke | I think most of the time is spent on autoreconf |
| 12:05.40 | Ifaistos | zecke : i wonder if the threaded version of bitbake will make any difference... |
| 12:08.20 | hrw|work | NOTE: package wireshark-0.99.4-r0: task do_compile: started |
| 12:15.26 | hrw|work | failed |
| 12:16.10 | Laibsch | hrw|work: NOTE: package poboxserver-1.2.5-r2: task do_fetch: completed |
| 12:16.51 | Laibsch | Ifaistos: That's great news. So are your latest changes the breakthrough to get things compiling with icecc? |
| 12:17.38 | Laibsch | mickeyl: I wonder if compiling with icecc (one machine ubuntu eft and one ubuntu dapper) will corrupt tmp/ again? |
| 12:17.48 | mickeyl | never used icecc |
| 12:17.57 | Ifaistos | Laibsch : it seems so. What i have posted only cross-compiles. working to get native and cross-kernel working |
| 12:18.37 | XorA | mmm, link all OE dev machines with icecc into a worldwide mega compiler farm |
| 12:18.57 | CIA-4 | 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * rbde1fc71... 10/ (1 packages/poboxserver/poboxserver_1.2.5.bb): poboxserver: upstream sources gone (temporarily?). Host at gakusei.sf.net now. |
| 12:21.20 | Ifaistos | XorA : Then take over the world :) |
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| 12:28.01 | hrw|work | Laibsch: contacted upstream about archive? |
| 12:28.12 | Laibsch | no |
| 12:28.23 | Laibsch | but sounds like a good idea ;-) |
| 12:30.14 | hrw|work | zecke: in past we had "bittest source_checker" which checked availability of sources. do we have it or was it dropped at all? |
| 12:30.33 | koen | hrw|work: it's called bitbake_qa now |
| 12:31.19 | koen | http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/BitTest |
| 12:32.35 | hrw|work | thx |
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| 12:39.56 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rfd56d089... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): dbus: package libdbus into separate package - opie images will get smaller now |
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| 12:52.48 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rdfd3feed... 10/ (1 packages/dbus/dbus.inc): dbus.inc: revert granularity change till someone comes up with something that doesn't break every dbus using app |
| 12:53.46 | hrw|work | !bootstrap images are too big anyway to fit on collie |
| 12:54.15 | koen | we can work on fixing that |
| 12:54.52 | hrw|work | opie is 16M, gpe is 17M |
| 12:54.58 | koen | hrw|work: tried compiling with -Os? |
| 12:55.08 | mickeyl | i thought Os is breaking something? |
| 12:55.12 | mickeyl | recently read that on alkml |
| 12:55.17 | koen | that saved 1MB last time |
| 12:55.35 | koen | mickeyl: perl, but perl now has -O1 in angstrom |
| 12:55.42 | mickeyl | ah that was ust perl |
| 12:55.44 | mickeyl | just, even |
| 12:55.49 | mickeyl | who needs perl anyway`? |
| 12:55.55 | koen | mickeyl: git |
| 12:56.40 | hrw|work | task-gpe NEED task-basing |
| 12:57.15 | mickeyl | OT: anyone know if there's a list with glib data structures and their operational costs in O notation? |
| 12:57.23 | mickeyl | and if so, where? :D |
| 12:57.39 | hrw|work | someone want to fight with wireshark? |
| 12:57.50 | koen | hrw|work: I tried last month and gave up |
| 12:58.29 | koen | (wireshark) |
| 12:59.16 | mickeyl | did they break something? i added ethereal and it worked |
| 12:59.26 | mickeyl | months ago, that is |
| 12:59.52 | koen | wireshark->ethereal should have been s:ethereal:wireshark:g |
| 12:59.52 | hrw|work | mickeyl: ethereal is not fetchable |
| 13:00.01 | koen | but somehow it doesn't build |
| 13:00.03 | hrw|work | koen: cross compile badness |
| 13:00.17 | koen | hrw|work: if you fix that, it still won't compile |
| 13:01.32 | koen | mickeyl: you know about '-b foo.bb -c devshell'? |
| 13:02.05 | mickeyl | not really. educate me, what can i do with that? |
| 13:02.24 | koen | it dumps you into as shell in ${S} with all the env vars set up |
| 13:02.29 | koen | s/as/a/ |
| 13:02.46 | Genesis | it's very usefull |
| 13:02.57 | mickeyl | which env vars in particular? |
| 13:03.04 | koen | (after inheriting devhell.bbclass, whoch angstrom does) |
| 13:03.04 | mickeyl | i.e. what can i do with that now i have a shell prompt |
| 13:03.06 | hrw|work | I liked old devshell anyway |
| 13:03.31 | koen | it's the like old devshell, but more obvious and userfriendly |
| 13:03.42 | koen | mickeyl: 'make' just works(TM) |
| 13:03.47 | mickeyl | oh |
| 13:03.49 | mickeyl | that's cool |
| 13:04.08 | hrw|work | hrw-source-mirror-fetcher build is progressing in nice red color |
| 13:04.10 | hrw|work | food time |
| 13:04.17 | hrw|work | bbl |
| 13:04.17 | mickeyl | ~bon appetit |
| 13:04.21 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, bon appetit is smacznego. Guten Appetit. Eet Smakelijk. God Appetitt. Buon Appetito. Buen apetito Bom Apetite. buen apetito |
| 13:04.45 | Pakmanorama | I've just started with OE. Having trouble with bitbake not being able to find conf/bitbake.conf |
| 13:04.49 | mickeyl | ~lart g_slist_length |
| 13:05.07 | mickeyl | they're really crawling through the complete list to gather the lenght |
| 13:05.08 | mickeyl | *sigh* |
| 13:05.38 | mickeyl | that makes it O(n) |
| 13:05.40 | mickeyl | :/ |
| 13:05.53 | mickeyl | so, double bookkeeping for me |
| 13:05.57 | Laibsch | Pakmanorama: Have you read GettingStarted on the wiki? |
| 13:06.10 | Laibsch | Pakmanorama: Have you configured local.conf? |
| 13:06.19 | Pakmanorama | Laibsch: yeah, read it a couple of times |
| 13:06.31 | Laibsch | Pakmanorama: Have you set up the environment variables? |
| 13:06.39 | Pakmanorama | Laibsch: I think I've done local.conf OK |
| 13:07.11 | Laibsch | hrw|work: Sent a mail to upstream. I wonder if he will be able to decipher what I was trying to tell him ;-) |
| 13:07.17 | Pakmanorama | Laibsch: yes path ok... BBPATH=/oe/build:/oe/org.openembedded.dev |
| 13:07.56 | Pakmanorama | Laibsch: am I supposed to copy bitbake.conf into /oe/build/conf ? |
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| 13:08.00 | koen | mickeyl: have you tried glib >2.6 with openmoko? |
| 13:08.17 | florian_kc | hi all |
| 13:08.18 | mickeyl | no chance yet |
| 13:08.43 | koen | mickeyl: if you, let me know, the irex dudes where wondering about that as well |
| 13:09.01 | Laibsch | Pakmanorama: no |
| 13:09.11 | mickeyl | k |
| 13:09.19 | Pakmanorama | k |
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| 13:11.41 | Laibsch | Pakmanorama: Can you paste a bit of info? |
| 13:11.44 | Laibsch | !paste |
| 13:12.03 | Laibsch | -> http://rafb.net |
| 13:12.34 | Laibsch | What vars have you set, what directory are you in when calling bitbake, paste your local.conf, etc. |
| 13:12.58 | Pakmanorama | Laibsch: I just uncommented the REMOVE_THIS_LINE stuff in /oe/build/conf/local.conf and it didn't give the expected error |
| 13:13.06 | Pakmanorama | Laibsch: ok, will paste |
| 13:13.08 | Laibsch | Are you in /oe/build when calling bitbake? |
| 13:13.15 | Pakmanorama | Laibsch: yes |
| 13:13.33 | Laibsch | Pakmanorama: Then of course it will not work. It say quite clearly you need to READ the conf file! |
| 13:13.37 | Pakmanorama | Laibsch: running inside "screen" if that makes a difference |
| 13:13.41 | Laibsch | no |
| 13:13.46 | Laibsch | I do that all the time. |
| 13:13.57 | Laibsch | You need to fix your local.conf |
| 13:14.33 | Pakmanorama | Laibsch: I uncommented the line to try and see if local.conf was being read |
| 13:14.48 | Laibsch | But you did not read the conf file. |
| 13:15.12 | Laibsch | READ it, understand it and configure it and I think you will be happy. |
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| 13:29.37 | vlo | init fails after my linux boot: how to easily add some "printf" in the init package and rebuild it so that I can see exactly where it fails ? |
| 13:29.47 | vlo | http://pastebin.ca/278842 |
| 13:31.57 | Laibsch | Pakmanorama: Making progress? |
| 13:32.00 | vlo | because of course, when I rebuild init, bitbake decompresses the source again, overwriting all the changes I could make in the init.c file for instance |
| 13:34.32 | Pakmanorama | Laibsch: http://rafb.net/paste/results/G5nwmE46.html |
| 13:35.07 | Pakmanorama | Laibsch: read, read again, re-read and once more to be sure :) Still can't see what I'm doing |
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| 13:35.14 | Pakmanorama | Laibsch: wrong |
| 13:35.20 | hrw|work | Pakmanorama: http://www.hrw.one.pl/ - read 'my openembedded environment II' post |
| 13:35.49 | Pakmanorama | hrw|work: thanks, will look |
| 13:47.09 | Laibsch | Let me summarize: Your config is http://rafb.net/paste/results/G5nwmE46.html, "set|grep BB" show you BBPATH=/oe/build:/oe/org.openembedded.dev, you checked out the OE tree into /oe/org.openembedded.dev (/oe/org.openmbedded.dev/conf/bitbake.conf is there and non-empty), but calling "bitbake nano" in /oe/build directory errors out for you with conf/bitbake.conf not found? |
| 13:48.50 | Laibsch | plus your local.conf is at /oe/build/conf/local.conf ? |
| 13:49.47 | XorA | Ive just been hit by !oebug 1680 |
| 13:49.52 | XorA | !oebug 1680 |
| 13:51.02 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 1680, Status: NEW, Created: 2006-12-13 03:14 |
| 13:51.02 | cdbot2 | * * andrea.adami(AT)gmail.com: JFFS2 angstrom gpe-image won't boot |
| 13:51.02 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1680 |
| 13:51.49 | hrw|work | btw - someone tried 2.6.19 on Z? |
| 13:51.55 | XorA | hrw|work: just now |
| 13:52.14 | hrw|work | XorA: and 2.6.19 == 1680? |
| 13:52.15 | XorA | hrw|work: but it wont boot as / is fscked |
| 13:52.41 | XorA | hrw|work: I dont know if its 2.6.19 that fscked it, or an oebug |
| 13:53.16 | hrw|work | XorA: does it work with 2.6.18? |
| 13:53.31 | XorA | hrw|work: actuall I think I might just have written a tar.gz to jffs2 |
| 13:53.52 | XorA | fsck I have |
| 13:53.57 | Laibsch | Pakmanorama: Was my above summary correct? |
| 13:54.14 | Pakmanorama | Laibsch: exactly, I just finished checking it three times :) |
| 13:54.54 | Pakmanorama | Laibsch: I noticed that the sample local.conf has a colon before the = sign in the BBFILES line |
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| 13:55.15 | Pakmanorama | Laibsch: tried it with and without with no difference |
| 13:56.45 | Laibsch | Then I think it should work. Maybe you can paste the output of grep -v '^$' ../build/conf/local.conf|grep -v '#' as that is more readable. But I think your config is OK. Maybe one of the experts can take a look. |
| 13:56.59 | hrw|work | s/paste/pastebin |
| 13:57.15 | Laibsch | Pakmanorama: BBFILES is not really the problem. |
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| 13:57.57 | Pakmanorama | Laibsch: is there something I can do to ensure that the conf/local.conf is being read by bitbake? |
| 13:58.06 | Laibsch | hrw|work: Of course. I think Pakmanorama was not going to dump his stuff straight here. For me the difference is paste and post. But I guess pastebin might be clearer. |
| 13:58.34 | Laibsch | Pakmanorama: Be in /oe/build when you call bitbake. |
| 13:59.01 | Laibsch | Pakmanorama: Just had an idea. Paste the output of "bitbake -D -D -D nano" |
| 13:59.11 | hrw|work | koen|away: NOTE: package wireshark-0.99.4-r0: task do_compile: completed |
| 13:59.21 | Laibsch | applaud hrw|work |
| 13:59.42 | Pakmanorama | Laibsch: ERROR: Unable to open conf/bitbake.conf |
| 13:59.58 | Laibsch | That is all? |
| 14:00.13 | Pakmanorama | Laibsch: Yeah, I tried that before I came on here ;) |
| 14:00.34 | Laibsch | Well, but the -D should have given you more verbose output. |
| 14:00.49 | Laibsch | Have you really tried with -D -D -D? |
| 14:01.00 | Pakmanorama | Laibsch: single line output as pasted :( |
| 14:01.07 | Laibsch | Strange. |
| 14:01.35 | Laibsch | Using installed or SVN version of bitbake? |
| 14:01.57 | Laibsch | Maybe you want to reinstall bitbake, but I am really poking into the dark here. |
| 14:02.09 | Pakmanorama | Laibsch: svn info |
| 14:02.09 | Pakmanorama | Path: . |
| 14:02.09 | Pakmanorama | URL: http://svn.berlios.de/svnroot/repos/bitbake/branches/bitbake-1.6 |
| 14:02.09 | Pakmanorama | Repository UUID: fd90740e-a5ea-0310-a7a2-b3005cc77bd6 |
| 14:02.09 | Pakmanorama | Revision: 719 |
| 14:02.10 | Pakmanorama | Node Kind: directory |
| 14:02.12 | Pakmanorama | Schedule: normal |
| 14:02.14 | Pakmanorama | Last Changed Author: zecke123 |
| 14:02.16 | Pakmanorama | Last Changed Rev: 626 |
| 14:02.18 | Pakmanorama | Last Changed Date: 2006-11-01 21:11:36 +1000 (Wed, 01 Nov 2006) |
| 14:02.20 | Laibsch | Pakmanorama: Don't do that! |
| 14:02.20 | Pakmanorama | Properties Last Updated: 2006-12-14 20:22:26 +1000 (Thu, 14 Dec 2006) |
| 14:02.22 | Pakmanorama | oops, sorry |
| 14:02.35 | Pakmanorama | Laibsch: oops |
| 14:02.42 | Laibsch | That is what pastebin is for. http://rafb.net |
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| 14:03.39 | Pakmanorama | Laibsch: perhaps I'm having an isue with python or some stuff |
| 14:03.57 | Pakmanorama | Laibsch: or psyco JIT |
| 14:04.18 | Laibsch | paste the output of "head /oe/build/conf/local.conf" |
| 14:04.39 | Laibsch | Paste means http://rafb.net (just for starters ;-)) |
| 14:04.47 | Pakmanorama | Laibsch: lol...ok |
| 14:04.51 | hrw|work | ~pastebin |
| 14:04.52 | ibot | hmm... pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste |
| 14:05.24 | XorA | or maybe I didnt, as koens Angstrom images are buggered as well |
| 14:06.23 | Pakmanorama | Laibsch: http://pastebin.ca/278872 |
| 14:06.40 | Pakmanorama | ibot: thanks |
| 14:06.40 | ibot | Pakmanorama: no problem |
| 14:06.53 | Pakmanorama | hrw|work: thanks |
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| 14:14.36 | vlo | hum, at least I now can have a shell with the boot option init=/bin/sh ... so it's definitely init which has a problem |
| 14:16.15 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r3485994a... 10/ (1 packages/dbus/dbus_0.95.bb): dbus: drop 0.95 |
| 14:18.37 | Laibsch | Pakmanorama: Where is the output of "head /oe/build/conf/local.conf"? |
| 14:18.52 | Laibsch | Pakmanorama: Disregard |
| 14:20.11 | Laibsch | Pakmanorama: OK, now I am really lost as to why your setup is not working. It really should. What distro are you using? Anything deb based? Then google for openembedded-essential and install this meta-package. |
| 14:20.30 | Pakmanorama | Laibsch: Ubuntu |
| 14:20.42 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rba11475e... 10/ (6 files in 5 dirs): wireshark: updated to 0.99.4 (it was ethereal before) |
| 14:20.59 | Laibsch | Pakmanorama: Which version? I am also on ubuntu. |
| 14:21.02 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * raf2ecc64... 10/ (1 packages/scw/scw_0.4.2.bb packages/scw/scw_0.4.3.bb): scw: update to 0.4.3, point to Debian mirrors |
| 14:21.22 | zecke | hmm nokia wants their machine back... looking for a new idle machine... |
| 14:21.42 | hrw|work | zecke: which machine you lose? |
| 14:22.18 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rd2e53229... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): cdtool: update to 2.1.8 |
| 14:22.43 | Pakmanorama | Laibsch: Breezy |
| 14:22.50 | Laibsch | Pakmanorama: Include "deb http://www.openembedded.org/dl/ packages/" in /etc/apt/sources.list or some separate file in /etc/apt/sources.listd/. Then "sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get install openembedded-essential" |
| 14:22.54 | zecke | hrw|work: autobuild, looking for a new powerful machine in the rack |
| 14:23.03 | Laibsch | Pakmanorama: Breezy? That stuff is ancient! |
| 14:23.21 | Pakmanorama | Laibsch: Yeah I know. I works though :) |
| 14:23.24 | Laibsch | Pakmanorama: I suggest upgrading at least to dapper. |
| 14:23.46 | Laibsch | Pakmanorama: Sorry, but I think this might be because you are running very old software. |
| 14:25.22 | zecke | mickeyl: ping |
| 14:25.56 | Pakmanorama | Laibsch: hmmm..apt seems to need build-essentials, quilt and a few others |
| 14:26.16 | mickeyl | zecke: pöng |
| 14:26.23 | Laibsch | Pakmanorama: Of course, you always had those installed anyways, didn't you? |
| 14:26.30 | mickeyl | zecke: test passed? |
| 14:26.42 | zecke | mickeyl: mind if I apply for a lighning talk? |
| 14:26.48 | zecke | hmm sloooow wlan |
| 14:26.48 | Laibsch | Pakmanorama: That is the only function of that meta-package, to make sure necessary software is installed. |
| 14:26.57 | mickeyl | zecke: @ FOSDEM? |
| 14:27.12 | zecke | mickeyl: yes AT FOSDEM |
| 14:27.16 | mickeyl | zecke: not at all, go ahead. |
| 14:27.39 | zecke | mickeyl: OE can only have talk, so we need to judge carefully |
| 14:27.59 | mickeyl | zecke: we should only coordinate that we don't talk about the same stuff |
| 14:28.28 | zecke | i would rant :) |
| 14:28.56 | mickeyl | excellent |
| 14:28.57 | mickeyl | :D |
| 14:29.10 | Pakmanorama | Laibsch: Ok, looks like I need to upgrade :( |
| 14:29.27 | Laibsch | That is what I thought. |
| 14:29.33 | Laibsch | It is not so bad, usually. |
| 14:29.41 | Laibsch | Don't forget the backup, though. |
| 14:29.55 | Laibsch | And don't upgrade straight in eft, that is not supported. |
| 14:30.01 | Laibsch | Go for dapper first. |
| 14:30.27 | Laibsch | I compile with OE on dapper (and eft). So no need to go all the way if you don't want to. |
| 14:31.10 | hrw|work | who overloaded monotone.oe.org? |
| 14:31.34 | Pakmanorama | Laibsch: thanks for all your help, it is much appreciated |
| 14:32.01 | Laibsch | Pakmanorama: de nada. |
| 14:32.23 | koen | tried stracing bitbake? |
| 14:32.32 | Laibsch | Be sure to come back. OE is awesome. BTW, may I ask what you intend to do? |
| 14:32.43 | Laibsch | Pakmanorama: ? |
| 14:33.39 | Pakmanorama | Laibsch: We have a gaming terminal that we'd like to run it on |
| 14:34.19 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * raccbdc42... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): masqmail: update to 0.2.21, switched to Debian mirror |
| 14:34.38 | Laibsch | Pakmanorama: I see. koen was suggesting for you to strace bitbake. Do you feel like it? |
| 14:35.17 | Pakmanorama | Laibsch: yeah, I don't know if that would help as it runs through python but I guess it can't hurt |
| 14:35.23 | Laibsch | Personally, I would rather upgrade. And you will not get around having certain software which I am not sure is available in breezy. |
| 14:36.16 | Laibsch | your choice. |
| 14:37.41 | Pakmanorama | Laibsch: stat64("conf/bitbake.conf", 0xbfc3a758) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) |
| 14:37.49 | Pakmanorama | Laibsch: hmm |
| 14:38.29 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rb66f8aa9... 10/ (1 packages/live555/live555_20051005.bb): live555: point SRC_URI to one of places where it is available |
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| 14:39.29 | Laibsch | I assume your python version is lacking a function which is used for determining the part before conf/local.conf. As I said, I would rather upgrade. But trying to install python from dapper might fix this for you. |
| 14:40.06 | Laibsch | How long is breezy going to stay supported? |
| 14:40.12 | Laibsch | Not much longer, I think. |
| 14:41.55 | Pakmanorama | Laibsch: working |
| 14:42.06 | Laibsch | Cool |
| 14:42.43 | Pakmanorama | Laibsch: bitbake config file was installed to /usr/bitbake/conf and bitbake was looking in /usr/share/bitbake/conf |
| 14:42.46 | Laibsch | but don't forget to install quilt and all the other software. You will need it and waste yours and other ppl's time when you run into trouble. |
| 14:43.06 | Laibsch | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:43.22 | Pakmanorama | Laibsch: yup, that's where is was looking |
| 14:43.32 | Laibsch | You were always talking about /oe! And showed me that indeed the file was there. |
| 14:43.45 | Laibsch | Something is wrong! |
| 14:44.15 | Laibsch | OE usually does not and should not touch /usr! |
| 14:44.53 | Pakmanorama | Laibsch: hmm...that's where bitbake was looking |
| 14:44.56 | Laibsch | My /usr is mounted ro to make sure it only gets changed when I want it to. |
| 14:45.39 | Laibsch | Pakmanorama: It certainly won't help you trying to copy it there, now. It will only open a chance for you to completely fsck up your system. |
| 14:46.10 | Laibsch | I REALLY advice you to upgrade |
| 14:46.35 | Pakmanorama | Laibsch: I will put a system together at work. Too risky to upgrade my laptop :) |
| 14:46.51 | Pakmanorama | Laibsch: too much crap on it and not enough time to sort it out...lol |
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| 14:49.58 | Laibsch | You could boot into a LIVE CD and compile for OE there. |
| 14:50.37 | koen | or use [g2]'s chroot thing |
| 14:51.13 | hrw|work | koen: he did it? |
| 14:51.49 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r40da8c32... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): c7x0/akita/spitz: fix order or zaurus includes |
| 14:52.02 | koen | hrw|work: he has had a ubuntu dapper chroot for a while now |
| 14:52.24 | hrw|work | ah.. |
| 14:53.39 | Pakmanorama | Laibsch: I have just remembered that we have a server configured with dapper on it |
| 14:54.29 | Pakmanorama | Laibsch: will openembedded-essentials pick up all packages I need? |
| 14:54.55 | hrw|work | Pakmanorama: yes |
| 14:56.37 | Pakmanorama | excellent. Thank you all for your help. |
| 14:59.39 | hrw|work | crazy fetch is progressing |
| 15:01.22 | chouimat | morning |
| 15:04.19 | hrw|work | zecke: s/OpenSnyc/OpenSync |
| 15:05.04 | zecke | okay |
| 15:05.11 | zecke | besides that |
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| 15:08.49 | *** topic/#oe is OpenEmbedded Developer Lounge | http://www.openembedded.org | http://bugs.openembedded.org | FOSDEM'07: 24-25.02.2007 with OE booth. Official OE hotel Astridhotel.be |
| 15:10.48 | koen | zecke: looks ok |
| 15:11.55 | zecke | hopes keithp will be present when I bitch about fontconfig |
| 15:12.00 | zecke | I know how to make me popular |
| 15:13.27 | hrw|work | ;D |
| 15:19.08 | hrw|work | ~lart devshell badly |
| 15:19.34 | hrw|work | or rather 'bitbake -c' without -b |
| 15:19.46 | koen | right |
| 15:19.52 | koen | it seems to hang without -b |
| 15:19.58 | koen | forgot to file a bug about that |
| 15:23.05 | RP | bitbake trunk is broken for devshell |
| 15:23.53 | mickeyl | yo RP |
| 15:24.00 | RP | hi mickeyl |
| 15:24.05 | RP | "morning" all in fact :) |
| 15:24.15 | mickeyl | heh |
| 15:24.22 | mickeyl | fscked up your sleep/wake rhythm? |
| 15:24.46 | RP | mickeyl: no, just complying with ugt ;-) |
| 15:24.54 | mickeyl | heh, righto |
| 15:27.05 | hrw|work | list of non-fetchable sources decreased |
| 15:30.48 | Ifaistos | RP : Hi ! |
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| 15:38.23 | koen | brb, reboot |
| 15:39.13 | hrw|work | MACHINE = "ipaq-pxa270" |
| 15:39.21 | hrw|work | we still have this machine config? |
| 15:39.28 | hrw|work | I was thinking that this was dropped.. |
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| 15:43.29 | hrw|work | mickeyl: hsvc in OE is your toy? |
| 15:45.07 | mickeyl | well |
| 15:45.28 | mickeyl | more or less, yeah |
| 15:45.36 | hrw|work | mickeyl: it is not fetchable... |
| 15:45.58 | mickeyl | ok, i'll have a look |
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| 15:58.32 | hrw|work | ixp4xxbe lack virtual/kernel setting |
| 15:58.52 | hrw|work | ixp4xxle probably too |
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| 16:01.35 | koen | hrw|work: koen@bitbake:~/OE/monotone/org.openembedded.dev/conf/machine$ grep kernel include/ixp4xx.conf |
| 16:01.35 | koen | PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel ?= "ixp4xx-kernel" |
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| 16:01.59 | mickey|dinner | RP: no time to hack on xmlrpcserver yet. I'm sending it to you over the weekend |
| 16:06.03 | hrw|work | koen: not here |
| 16:07.02 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r7d5c4e9e... 10/ (1 conf/machine/ipaq-pxa270.conf): ipaq-pxa270: drop as indicated before. This machine has been split into hx4700 and hx2000 |
| 16:07.06 | hrw|work | ixp4xxle.conf:PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel ?= "ixp4xx-kernel" |
| 16:07.07 | koen | hrw|work: heh, right |
| 16:07.17 | hrw|work | hmm.. why then bitbake complain.. |
| 16:14.57 | hrw|work | MACHINE = "ixp4xx" |
| 16:15.02 | hrw|work | NOTE: multiple providers are available for virtual/kernel (nslu2-kernel, linux-ezx, native-kernel, handhelds-sa, devkitidp-pxa255-kernel, compulab-pxa270, linux-jlime-jornada6xx, linux-efika, linux-rp, e680-kernel, linux-amsdelta-2.6, linux, linux-smdk2440, linux-h6300-omap1, linux-dht-walnut, linux-titan-sh4, linux-ks8695, linux-navman, nslu2-linksys-kernel, mx31ads-kernel, a780-kernel, linux-omap1, triton-kernel, mx21ads-kernel, netbook-pro-kernel, linu |
| 16:15.15 | hrw|work | hm |
| 16:16.18 | hrw|work | now I'm lost. |
| 16:16.20 | Ifaistos | hrw|work : some of them sure are not ixp |
| 16:16.39 | hrw|work | ixp4xx has PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel ?= "ixp4xx-kernel" and bitbake has problem with it.. |
| 16:16.46 | chouimat | hrw|work: X <----- you're here |
| 16:17.13 | koen | you're not lost if you don't care where you are |
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| 16:17.32 | chouimat | www.perdu.com |
| 16:18.00 | Ifaistos | koen : Does efika compile for angstrom ? |
| 16:18.51 | Ifaistos | koen : or is it the other way around :) |
| 16:18.59 | koen | Ifaistos: apart from libusb, yes |
| 16:19.22 | koen | http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/20061213/efika/ |
| 16:19.31 | koen | although I forgot to upload the kernel |
| 16:19.48 | koen | but the kernel from efika.info works well enough to boot it |
| 16:20.12 | Ifaistos | koen : i want to give something to the compile cluster to work on, as i have to go for some appointment |
| 16:21.03 | Ifaistos | koen : mine is still at the customs... |
| 16:21.08 | Ifaistos | ~lart fedex |
| 16:23.51 | chouimat | they allready use it ... |
| 16:25.35 | Ifaistos | :) |
| 16:27.37 | RP | mickeyl: No problem, I've been too busy to think about it atm anyway :-( |
| 16:27.43 | mickeyl | ok, cool |
| 16:28.32 | RP | mickeyl: Next week I'm away but I have holiday over Xmas so I'm hoping to get some work done on bitbake then :) |
| 16:29.05 | XorA | reminds of that dilbert where the PHB tries to make Alice take holidays |
| 16:30.14 | mickeyl | good |
| 16:30.20 | RP | XorA: Sadly I have other priorities than bitbake when at work :-( |
| 16:30.52 | XorA | RP: its funny as we all get jobs to do with embedded linux, we get less time to actually work on OE |
| 16:31.54 | RP | XorA: Its sad, isn't it :-/ |
| 16:32.19 | XorA | someone needs to incorporate oe.com and find some spare VC |
| 16:32.37 | hrw|work | VC? |
| 16:32.41 | mickeyl | venture capital |
| 16:32.43 | XorA | Venture Capital |
| 16:33.11 | RP | OH would love to have me working on poky which basically equates to OE long term. We need me working on paid projects though |
| 16:33.14 | Ifaistos | Volture Capital |
| 16:33.24 | XorA | Ifaistos: :-D too true |
| 16:33.39 | XorA | its the only time the bean counters are allowed to gample, so they get ruthless |
| 16:33.39 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rd53336ad... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 16:33.39 | CIA-4 | maradns: update to 1.0.39 (last 1.0.x version) |
| 16:33.39 | CIA-4 | http://www.maradns.org/faq.html#version1 say: |
| 16:33.39 | CIA-4 | MaraDNS 1.0 will continue to be fully supported by upstream until December 21, 2007 |
| 16:33.40 | CIA-4 | This means that MaraDNS 1.0 questions will still be answered and bug fixes will |
| 16:33.42 | CIA-4 | still be applied. |
| 16:33.44 | CIA-4 | After 2007/12/21, MaraDNS 1.0 will no longer be fully supported by upstream; |
| 16:33.53 | chouimat | is VC == getting it from being in the long term? |
| 16:34.15 | chouimat | err behind |
| 16:34.18 | chouimat | can't type today |
| 16:34.28 | Ifaistos | You give us your idea, we get 51% and if things go well we through you out of the company |
| 16:34.32 | XorA | chouimat: bend over and take it like a man |
| 16:34.41 | chouimat | XorA: hehe |
| 16:35.48 | hrw|work | JustinP: microemacs is your toy iirc... |
| 16:40.10 | mreimer | I'm trying to make a bb for gst-python, but the install is failing, I think because the path to the libraries isn't getting passed correctly to the gcc, but this mess: -L/opt/oe/build-hx/tmp/staging/arm-linux/lib/.libs -L/opt/oe/build-hx/tmp/work/armv5te-linux/python-gstreamer-0.10.6-r0/image/opt/oe/build-hx/tmp/staging/arm-linux/lib |
| 16:40.16 | mreimer | any ideas what would cause this? |
| 16:40.54 | mreimer | notice the '.libs' and the funky concatenating of paths |
| 16:41.10 | koen | looks like libtool breakage |
| 16:41.21 | mreimer | hey koen |
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| 16:42.45 | mreimer | koen|away: I don't know much about libtool. Is it likely a problem with some libtool thing that ships with gst-python? I do see ltihooks.py and ltmain.sh in the tarball |
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| 16:52.12 | hrw|work | 2.6.20-rc1 released |
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| 16:53.57 | pH5 | hrw|work: for now it looks like 2.6.20 will be an easy upgrade |
| 16:54.32 | hrw|work | yes |
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| 16:54.51 | hrw|work | ops. |
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| 17:10.21 | pH5 | hi psokolovsky_ |
| 17:10.27 | psokolovsky_ | Hi! |
| 17:11.23 | pH5 | hrw|work: for now only irqchip/desc --> irq_chip/desc hit me and system.h uses local_irq_save/restore without including interrupt.h or irqflags.h |
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| 17:13.03 | pH5 | hey lrg |
| 17:13.07 | lrg | hey all |
| 17:13.31 | lrg | pH5: testing new changes on mainstone tomorrow |
| 17:13.49 | lrg | pH5: if all is ok then I'll email patch |
| 17:13.58 | pH5 | lrg: thanks! I'm looking forward to it |
| 17:14.11 | lrg | pH5: should make things easier :) |
| 17:15.27 | vlo | hello lrg |
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| 17:16.05 | hrw|work | RMK |
| 17:16.21 | lrg | hey Marcin, sent email before seeing your reply |
| 17:16.25 | hrw|work | so linux-libc-headers 2.6.20 in OE will be without patc |
| 17:16.27 | hrw|work | lrg: ;) |
| 17:16.51 | lrg | hey vlo, booting init now ? |
| 17:17.43 | vlo | now it runs init, but init hangs ... but I can have shell with init=/bin/sh |
| 17:17.56 | vlo | this is very strange |
| 17:19.18 | hrw|work | cu |
| 17:20.18 | lrg | vlo: I'm doing work soon, maybe next week. I'll build a clean image |
| 17:22.55 | vlo | lrg: great. I hope my image will work one day |
| 17:25.41 | vlo | I'm missing a good debug technique with the embedded JTAG probe, I can work the proc step by step and see the assembly being executed, but I would need to be able to link it with gdb efficiently |
| 17:30.11 | vlo | but now I've learnt to use quilt, so I've been able to add "printf"'s (I know it's ugly, but it works quite well) in the init c code, and I can see where the problem is |
| 17:30.16 | vlo | and it works ! |
| 17:30.24 | vlo | I see my messages |
| 17:30.27 | vlo | yepee |
| 17:31.48 | kergoth | endian-little? someone finally split up the site files? |
| 17:31.51 | kergoth | nifty |
| 17:34.01 | vlo | ok, got to go, see you all later |
| 17:35.32 | koen | kergoth: yep |
| 17:35.46 | koen | kergoth: Jamie lenehan did the ground work and RP refined it |
| 17:36.08 | koen | kergoth: are you volunteering to factor out the the 'common' site file? |
| 17:38.06 | kergoth | i'd still like to see a repository of the m4 macros associated with the test results, so we could populate the site file in one fell swoop on a new platform |
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| 17:38.51 | kergoth | that openmoko thing looks promising |
| 17:39.26 | koen | kergoth: http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/contrib/site-conf/README |
| 17:39.34 | koen | kergoth: it's like christmas ;) |
| 17:39.57 | kergoth | hah, excellent |
| 17:42.55 | koen | drat |
| 17:43.03 | koen | it requires autoconf >=2.60 |
| 17:43.36 | zecke | kergoth: hehe, where is your paypal account so I can send you money :) |
| 17:44.07 | zecke | kergoth: only builtins and binutils are complete |
| 17:44.17 | zecke | koen: it does? |
| 17:44.54 | koen | zecke: yes |
| 17:45.01 | zecke | koen: pastebin the error please |
| 17:45.17 | kergoth | zecke: heard of jlibtool? |
| 17:45.23 | zecke | no |
| 17:45.31 | kergoth | C libtool implementation thats in the apr source tree |
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| 17:45.39 | zecke | sounds scary |
| 17:45.41 | kergoth | cuts the apr build time from 1 minute 10 seconds with gnu libtool to 27 seconds with jlibtool |
| 17:45.44 | kergoth | same syntax |
| 17:46.41 | florian_kc | hmm.... sounds good :-) |
| 17:47.20 | koen | zecke: http://rafb.net/paste/results/AgNLP332.html |
| 17:47.21 | kergoth | different .la format, seemingly, so cant mix and match them, and i'm not sure what will need modifying for crosscompilation, but its worth trying in oe |
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| 17:50.16 | Ifaistos | zecke : I am splitting the "blacklists" in icecc into 2 parts |
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| 17:50.39 | koen | zecke: should I open a bug and attach the config.cache files? |
| 17:50.51 | zecke | kergoth: so at the end of the year we optimize m4? |
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| 17:51.12 | Ifaistos | zecke : one called "section" which allows you to blacklist a whole "section" i.e native,cross,cross-kernel,target |
| 17:51.21 | zecke | koen: oh fix it right away |
| 17:51.37 | koen | zecke: I'm affraid I have too little time for that atm |
| 17:51.55 | zecke | replace [2.60] with [2.59] in configure.ac |
| 17:52.07 | koen | zecke: I compiled and installed 2.61 |
| 17:52.22 | Ifaistos | zecke : and a number of package specific ones, as many as the sections. What do you think ? Is it ok or too complicated ? |
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| 17:53.12 | zecke | Ifaistos: native,cross,cross-kernel are not sections but okay :) |
| 17:53.37 | hrw|gone | koen: autoconf-native-2.61? |
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| 17:54.02 | koen | hrw|gone: native compile |
| 17:54.07 | hrw|gone | ah |
| 17:54.36 | zecke | yes we should update autoconf to 2.61, run the test suite, add kergoth's sizeof macro and finally make it pass the test suite |
| 17:54.47 | Ifaistos | zecke : You are right. Any other word that could define them ? also where do the kernel fits ? |
| 17:56.25 | koen | zecke: http://www.openembedded.org/~koen/site-files/armv5te-linux-gnueabi.site |
| 18:01.23 | koen | zecke: it looks a bit short |
| 18:01.36 | zecke | koen: we run 6 tests |
| 18:01.58 | zecke | the other m4 files are pretty much empty and require the copy and paste |
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| 18:08.56 | Ifaistos | Is there any parameter that holds the cross-kernel we are using ? |
| 18:09.52 | zecke | KERNEL_CC_SUFFIX or such |
| 18:10.01 | zecke | Ifaistos: but there is one, I don't know the name |
| 18:10.25 | zecke | kergoth: do we have a proper jlibtool.m4 as replacement for libtool.m4? |
| 18:11.51 | zecke | koen|away: I will send an abstract for another talk at FOSDEM |
| 18:12.17 | zecke | koen|away: Lightning Talk is pretty special as it can attract many different people who are too bored to leave the room |
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| 18:16.57 | sirfred | Hello |
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| 18:19.27 | pH5 | hi sirfred |
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| 18:25.22 | Ifaistos | zecke : is 'class' better than 'section' ? |
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| 18:28.12 | zecke | Ifaistos: anything not section is fine :) |
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| 18:28.20 | zecke | Ifaistos: section conflicts with deb/ipk |
| 18:29.22 | Ifaistos | zecke : i'll use 'class' and we see how it goes. |
| 18:30.16 | Ifaistos | zecke : it will be something like ICECC_CLASS_NATIVE_BL |
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| 19:05.04 | hrw | re |
| 19:05.11 | hrw | Ifaistos: STAGING_KERNEL_DIR |
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| 19:08.25 | mccarthy | I have a stupid question |
| 19:08.33 | hrw | mccarthy: go |
| 19:08.43 | mccarthy | I update GPE svn about 2 hours ago and am trying to use a bb file that points to the svn |
| 19:09.01 | mccarthy | but for some reason when I build it uses the revision *right before* my checking (I think) |
| 19:09.09 | mccarthy | is says 8878 while the website shows 8879 |
| 19:09.12 | zecke | mccarthy: SRCDATE is set to a date |
| 19:09.23 | zecke | mccarthy: either specify a revision BitBake should download |
| 19:09.36 | CIA-4 | 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * rff1c5f34... 10/ (1 contrib/site-conf/configure.ac): |
| 19:09.36 | CIA-4 | contrib/site-conf: No need to require autoconf 2.60 |
| 19:09.36 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:09.38 | zecke | mccarthy: or set SRCDATE tempoarirly to christmas |
| 19:09.53 | mccarthy | zecke, cool. how do I set a revision? |
| 19:09.58 | koen | mccarthy: it takes the repo at last midnight |
| 19:10.02 | mccarthy | do I need to modify the bb file? |
| 19:10.11 | mccarthy | koen, good to know |
| 19:10.45 | koen | set SRCDATE_pn-<name>="now" in local.conf |
| 19:10.59 | koen | that should trigger the special case in the fetcher |
| 19:11.10 | koen | mccarthy: or go to the workdir and do 'svn up' |
| 19:12.14 | zecke | mccarthy: http://bitbake.berlios.de/manual/ch03s06.html |
| 19:14.49 | mccarthy | thanks guys |
| 19:15.19 | mccarthy | koen, what do you work on now that you are out of familiar territory (pretty punny, huh?0 |
| 19:15.22 | zecke | feedback to the manual is welcome |
| 19:15.35 | zecke | mccarthy: angstrom-linux.org |
| 19:15.43 | koen | mccarthy: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/ |
| 19:16.10 | koen | mccarthy: I am playing with this as well: http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/cms/another-new-toy-genisi-efika |
| 19:17.52 | zecke | hrw: koen|away RP: the oe builds moved from a nokia owned machine to a vmware server so build times will increase |
| 19:18.03 | hrw | ok |
| 19:18.22 | zecke | hrw: koen|away RP : but it will be more easy to move these things (even to Xen...) |
| 19:18.25 | hrw | zecke: can you share autoscripts? then I can run some of them on amd64 3500+ (32bit mode) |
| 19:18.41 | zecke | it is still running on a dual xeon though |
| 19:18.54 | hrw | zecke: I have machine at celf for own usage |
| 19:18.56 | zecke | hrw: I posted them once, can post them again |
| 19:19.13 | hrw | zecke: oeml? |
| 19:19.18 | zecke | no |
| 19:19.57 | hrw | zecke: can you resend them to me? thx |
| 19:20.07 | zecke | they are pretty lame though, I will go to a pub now and will mail them tomorrow |
| 19:20.36 | zecke | they need /bin/sh == /bin/bash though |
| 19:20.44 | hrw | no problem |
| 19:20.49 | hrw | I have # there |
| 19:21.45 | zecke | hrw: http://rafb.net/paste/results/sWuFy494.html |
| 19:22.00 | zecke | you need to have a build/MACHINE/conf/local.conf set up |
| 19:22.08 | hrw | ok |
| 19:22.14 | hrw | thx |
| 19:22.16 | zecke | and you need to adjust the path to bitbake |
| 19:22.24 | zecke | and to_build |
| 19:22.31 | zecke | if you want other configurations |
| 19:22.35 | RP | zecke: Did the underlying OS change? |
| 19:22.57 | zecke | no, it is still edgy eft |
| 19:23.17 | zecke | it might miss a package or two |
| 19:23.17 | RP | zecke: Wasn't it fedora based? |
| 19:23.23 | zecke | hell no |
| 19:23.42 | hrw | zecke: does this script take care of restarting builds? |
| 19:23.49 | RP | zecke: I'm just confused them. Its strange poky should have has as many issues on edgy :-/ |
| 19:24.19 | zecke | hrw: it is a crap script |
| 19:24.39 | zecke | hrw: build, build, build -> clean all -> build, build, build -> clean all |
| 19:24.46 | hrw | ok |
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| 19:34.25 | Ifaistos | zecke : If you like i can give you access to use the icecc cluster to run them |
| 19:34.45 | chouimat | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:35.21 | hvontres|poodle | chouimat: But I prefer Fortran 77 on punch cards.... |
| 19:35.29 | chouimat | hvontres|poodle: hehe |
| 19:36.10 | mccarthy | koen, does angstrom run on the ipaq h5550? |
| 19:36.44 | chouimat | hvontres|poodle: my father still has his punch cards for his old programs in FORTRAN IV (iirc) |
| 19:36.53 | hvontres|poodle | chouimat: Can we use ADD ONE TO COBOL instead ? |
| 19:37.39 | chouimat | hvontres|poodle: :) |
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| 19:44.50 | hrw | did someone thought about updating gnu-config? |
| 19:47.14 | koen | mccarthy: it can, but it wouldn't be very usefull, since it requires a 2.6 kernel |
| 19:47.50 | mccarthy | what is wrong with a 2.6 kernel? |
| 19:48.36 | koen | not everything works on h5xxx with 2.6 last I heard |
| 19:51.36 | hrw | NOTE: package autoconf-native-2.61-r0: task do_build: completed |
| 19:53.14 | hrw | NOTE: package automake-native-1.9.6-r5: task do_build: completed |
| 19:54.09 | JustinP | hrw: emacs is mine, not microemacs ;-) |
| 19:54.21 | hrw | ah. ok |
| 19:54.54 | Ifaistos | i am trying to figure out if the package i am processing is the kernel. To see if for example is a xxxxx-cross i use bb.data.inherits_class("cross"). For the kernel what value should i use ? |
| 19:55.16 | Ifaistos | I tried both "linux" and the machine name but both evaluate to false |
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| 20:02.35 | hrw | Ifaistos: if PN == PREF_PROV_virtual/kernel |
| 20:03.05 | hrw | Ifaistos: or 'if recipe inherited kernel.bbclass' |
| 20:03.26 | Ifaistos | well it seems kernel.bbclass is the correct one ;) |
| 20:03.55 | hrw | ;D |
| 20:05.25 | hrw | beware next changesets |
| 20:05.37 | koen | here be dragons |
| 20:06.44 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rf2601be6... 10/ (14 files in 3 dirs): autoconf: added 2.61 (with DEF_PREF=-1 as not yet tested) |
| 20:06.48 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r4a6c98f5... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): automake: added 1.9.6 (DEF_PREF=-1 as not yet tested) |
| 20:07.04 | hrw | both builds |
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| 20:24.34 | koen | meh |
| 20:25.08 | koen | ~lart exohelpdesk |
| 20:25.15 | koen | ibot: botsnack |
| 20:25.15 | ibot | koen: thanks |
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| 20:26.07 | Jin^eLD | re |
| 20:26.41 | koen | Jin^eLD: wb |
| 20:30.42 | Jin^eLD | has anyone played with the Philips RC9800i remote control? |
| 20:31.02 | Jin^eLD | turned out it runs linux and is easy to hack/put custom firmware onto |
| 20:32.36 | kergoth | whats the current oe source mirror/ |
| 20:32.40 | kergoth | packetfactory.net is down |
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| 20:49.58 | koen | kergoth: atm we have none |
| 20:50.22 | koen | kergoth: hrw will get one at CELF and OE should get its own 1U box to host somewhere as well |
| 20:52.40 | hrw | iirc we have 40-70 recipes which are unfetchable |
| 20:54.05 | hrw | some of them block other recipes anyywa |
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| 20:58.57 | kergoth | ah |
| 20:59.18 | kergoth | good to hear celf is being supportive |
| 20:59.48 | hrw | kergoth: what you are doing for work now? |
| 21:00.42 | kergoth | after leaving ohand i sat on my ass for about two months looking around for another full time telecommute position, then gave up and sent a resume to the company i used to work for (the wearables for soldiers), and within an hour and half i was rehired |
| 21:00.47 | kergoth | so back where i was |
| 21:01.30 | hrw | thx for info |
| 21:01.39 | kergoth | ~kergoth |
| 21:01.41 | ibot | from memory, kergoth is Chris Larson, an open source developer currently working for CSC, Inc. in Phoenix, AZ. Core developer on OpenZaurus, OpenEmbedded/BitBake, and TSLib. Often the resident BOFH, and often an ass. Newbies and the clueless beware. Email at clarson@kergoth.com. |
| 21:02.31 | Jin^eLD | kergoth: your nickname sounds Klingon, a coincidence or is it really related? |
| 21:03.44 | kergoth | coincidence |
| 21:03.57 | kergoth | its justa word i pulled out of my ass one day in an attempt to come up with something not already taken |
| 21:04.42 | Jin^eLD | ah :) there was a time where I was.. well.. learning Klingon :) |
| 21:04.51 | kergoth | hehe. cant say i've ever done that |
| 21:06.00 | Jin^eLD | hmm, has anyone encountered an ud2a illegal instruction thing on x86? |
| 21:06.27 | ljp | actually, kergoth speaks fluent Klingon |
| 21:06.34 | Jin^eLD | ljp ))) |
| 21:07.02 | ljp | i was waiting on someone translating Opie to Klingon |
| 21:07.04 | kergoth | there's enough oddball languages that actually exist without spending time on one thats fictional :P |
| 21:07.29 | Jin^eLD | yeah.. in the end I dropped Klingon and started with Suomi |
| 21:07.40 | hrw | 60 recipes failed to fetch. some of them blocked other |
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| 21:29.50 | B_Lizzard | Hello |
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| 21:30.23 | Jin^eLD | hi |
| 21:32.05 | B_Lizzard | Running ping tells me "ping: unknown host www.google.com", and yet I'm in here |
| 21:32.08 | B_Lizzard | speaking |
| 21:32.16 | B_Lizzard | I cannot connect to any webpage |
| 21:32.18 | B_Lizzard | :| |
| 21:32.22 | B_Lizzard | :) |
| 21:32.48 | hrw | time to kill machine - bitbake giac |
| 21:35.10 | B_Lizzard | Is the internet down or something ;) |
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| 21:38.34 | hrw | cu |
| 21:43.41 | kergoth | off topic, anyone have any recommendations on books on cryptography? know nothing about it, other than the basics, and am thinking about picking up applied cryptography |
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| 22:00.05 | cbrake | kergoth: Schneiers books seem pretty good, but I'm not expert. |
| 22:01.36 | kergoth | my memories of what i learned about higher math is pretty weak, so i expect i wont understand the implementation details anyway, just need to understand all the concepts :) |
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| 22:12.24 | HopsNBarley | kergoth, for historical color, check ou t "the codebreakers" tome and also "the ultra secret". |
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| 22:14.31 | Laibsch | hrw|gone: Looks like the pobox guy had to close his website because Sony registered POBox as a trademark. Oh boy! |
| 22:14.52 | Laibsch | That is absolutely ridiculous. |
| 22:17.15 | chouimat | ? |
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| 22:34.25 | woglinde | urgs |
| 22:34.26 | woglinde | http://zaitcev.livejournal.com/108617.html |
| 23:01.09 | Laibsch | chouimat: qpobox is a Japanese input method in OE that became unfetchable. hrw had asked about it. I contacted the upstream author and got the response above. |
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| 23:06.31 | RP | Laibsch: Was there any alternative location? |
| 23:06.51 | Laibsch | RP: yes, my HD ;-) and now gakusei.sf.net. |
| 23:07.12 | RP | Laibsch: cool :) |
| 23:07.24 | Laibsch | upstream is planning to release it again later anyways. And continue development. |
| 23:10.04 | RP | Laibsch: That's good to know |
| 23:10.22 | Laibsch | sure |
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