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| 06:48.14 | JoseJX | RP: The clock stuff should be at least documented enough to implement it now. I'll look into the MMC/SD specs later this week and see if I can put some more info on the page |
| 06:49.06 | JoseJX | RP: Let me know if you want any more info |
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| 07:12.22 | Bernardo | good morning |
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| 08:20.15 | slapin_nb | hi, all! any pkg-config gurus? |
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| 08:28.41 | slapin_nb | well pkg-config hal --libs under devshell tells Unknown keyword 'Haluser', any ideas? |
| 08:29.05 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r1d23208d... 10/ (10 files in 3 dirs): gcc: dropped 4.1-20060217 snapshot - it is unfetchable from GNU mirrors |
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| 08:50.08 | XorA | morning |
| 08:55.15 | slapin_nb | good morning, all! |
| 09:23.44 | CIA-4 | 03xora 07org.oe.oz354x * ra1dd3b2f... 10/ (30 files in 6 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 09:23.45 | CIA-4 | mplayer_1.0rc1.bb : sync mplayer version with .dev latest. |
| 09:23.45 | CIA-4 | removed old versions of mplayer and mplayer-atty as they are obsoleted by |
| 09:23.48 | CIA-4 | this change. |
| 09:23.48 | CIA-4 | Fixed bug #1666 for the branch by added a collie specific patch to remove |
| 09:23.48 | CIA-4 | mplayers noexecstack flags. As for some reason collie alone has all .so's |
| 09:23.49 | CIA-4 | set to executable stacks. |
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| 09:23.54 | hrw|work | morning |
| 09:23.54 | hrw|work | XorA: thx |
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| 09:23.54 | hrw|work | koen: can you give laibsch forward for his key email? |
| 09:23.54 | XorA | hrw|work: should have gone last night, but I forgot to sync the branch in my script |
| 09:23.55 | hrw|work | koen: I got few emails today which was send to his key-email and bounced so people sent them to me |
| 09:23.55 | koen | hrw|work: you need to make a .forward in your homedir at ltg for that to work |
| 09:23.55 | hrw|work | koen: my add works. his not - so he has to make a forward? |
| 09:23.55 | koen | I guess so |
| 09:23.55 | koen | mail == voodoo |
| 09:23.56 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r586fdd72... 10/ (1 packages/ezx/opentapi_svn.bb): opentapi: add svn version |
| 09:23.56 | hrw|work | 8.7G contain my source mirror |
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| 10:44.51 | vlo | good morning everyone |
| 10:45.13 | XorA | hey vlo |
| 10:45.15 | vlo | I made a fresh pull this morning, and I noticed a bug was reinserted into mx31ads-kernel recipe |
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| 10:45.20 | CIA-4 | 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r044ac256... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): linux-smdk2440_2.6.19.bb : new kernel version, removed old ones. |
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| 10:45.30 | CIA-4 | 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r63a6f634... 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): linuxs-_smdk2440_2.6.19 : add missed touchscreen patch. |
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| 10:45.31 | XorA | psokolovsky: was it you who koen said had patches to make ipkg-make-index work 1000 times faster? |
| 10:45.31 | vlo | !oebug 1611 |
| 10:45.31 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 1611, Status: NEW, Created: 2006-11-23 07:14 |
| 10:45.31 | cdbot2 | * * valentin.longchamp(AT)epfl.ch: small typo in mx31ads-kernel recipe |
| 10:45.31 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1611 |
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| 10:45.36 | XorA | vlo should they not be -eq anyway? |
| 10:45.37 | vlo | XorA: yes would work too, but wanted to change lrg recipe as less as possible |
| 10:45.42 | XorA | vlo: send me a rubber mallet and Ill hit him for you :-) |
| 10:45.42 | Ifaistos | hi all |
| 10:45.42 | koen | vlo, XorA: that code is pasted from other kernel recipes, where it works, so I'm a bit affraid to change it |
| 10:45.42 | XorA | koen: I was just thinking that == is a bashism is it not? |
| 10:45.43 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rd131d338... 10/ (1 packages/libsamplerate/libsamplerate0_0.1.2.bb): libsamplerate: fix packaging - close #1698 |
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| 10:45.44 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rfa537f6e... 10/ (1 packages/libsamplerate/libsamplerate0_0.1.2.bb): libsamplerate: fix packaging - close #1698 |
| 10:45.44 | vlo | XorA: yeah, I think it is a bashism: here it didn't work because ubuntu used dash (instead of bash) ... maybe it works now that I have bash as default ! |
| 10:45.44 | hrw|work | NOTE: package gmp-native-4.2.1-r1: task do_configure: started |
| 10:45.44 | hrw|work | self hosted progressinng |
| 10:45.44 | XorA | hrw|work: everyday we get nearer bumping debian off :-) |
| 10:45.45 | hrw|work | ~oebug !1697 |
| 10:46.01 | hrw|work | !oebug 1697 |
| 10:46.01 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 1697, Status: NEW, Created: 2006-12-18 00:37 |
| 10:46.02 | cdbot2 | * * openembedded(AT)hrw.one.pl: glibc-intermediate 2.4 can not be built under Angstrom due to rpcgen change |
| 10:46.02 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1697 |
| 10:46.02 | hrw|work | XorA: this one is hard... |
| 10:46.02 | XorA | hrw|work: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh RPCGEN |
| 10:46.02 | hrw|work | XorA: you like it too? |
| 10:46.02 | slapin_nb | how could I regenerate Packages file in tmp/deploy/ipk ? is there any bitbake target? |
| 10:46.02 | XorA | hrw|work: I used to port a nfs based crypto fs forward to a recent linux version, rpcgen is pretty much the stupidest tool ever |
| 10:46.05 | hrw|work | slapin_nb: bitbake package-index |
| 10:46.06 | Ifaistos | can bbclass download a file ? should i use wget or is there another way ? i am trying to 'automagically' get the correct icecc-create-env script regardless of what icecc or the user has installed |
| 10:46.06 | XorA | Ifaistos: add it to SRC_URI |
| 10:46.06 | hrw|work | NOTE: package gcc-cross-4.1.1-r8: task do_unpack: started |
| 10:46.06 | Ifaistos | XorA : Which SRC_URI ? this is for the icecc.bbclass |
| 10:47.57 | XorA | Ifaistos: is that not used by a .bb to build icecc, or did I misunderstand |
| 10:47.58 | Ifaistos | XorA : nop. its used to distribute compile tasks to remote machines |
| 10:47.58 | XorA | Ifaistos: oh ok, Ill shut up then :-) |
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| 10:47.58 | hrw|work | Ifaistos: DEPENDS += "icecc-script" + icecc-script.bb? |
| 10:47.58 | hrw|work | Ifaistos: look at gettext.bbclass for example |
| 10:47.59 | hrw|work | morning mickeyl |
| 10:47.59 | Ifaistos | hrw|work : Thanks |
| 10:47.59 | hrw|work | mickeyl: do you know that Angstrom can build Angstrom? |
| 10:47.59 | mickeyl | morning guys |
| 10:47.59 | mickeyl | i didn't. good work! |
| 10:47.59 | hrw|work | mickeyl: need patch from #1697 but works then |
| 10:47.59 | koen | hey mickeyl |
| 10:48.00 | mickeyl | that stuff is so cool |
| 10:48.00 | psokolovsky | Hi! |
| 10:48.00 | psokolovsky | XorA, possibly ;-) but only ~100 times ;-) |
| 10:48.01 | XorA | psokolovsky: got a url? |
| 10:48.04 | hrw|work | Mem: 1296504k total, 1272924k used, 23580k free, 134304k buffers |
| 10:48.11 | psokolovsky | XorA, nope, unfortunately. Got to limit what I work on ;-(, and last time I concentrate on kernel/pushing distro-related patches I prepared before. |
| 10:48.12 | koen | mickeyl: heh, that music was recorded at the local podium I used to frequent in highschool |
| 10:48.12 | hrw|work | some one want to add helloworld_1.0.bb? |
| 10:48.12 | mickeyl | koen: cool |
| 10:49.41 | koen | mickeyl: even nirvana played there before they got hugely famous |
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| 10:57.13 | hrw|work | NOTE: package gcc-cross-4.1.1: completed |
| 10:57.13 | hrw|work | YEAH |
| 10:57.13 | koen | hrw|work: yay! |
| 10:57.14 | hrw|work | now need to make proper recipes and will get xmas gift ;D |
| 10:58.11 | koen | :) |
| 11:00.35 | hrw|work | koen: texinfo for angstrom/i686 please |
| 11:01.00 | koen | hrw|work: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?action=details&pnm=texinfo |
| 11:01.04 | koen | already there :) |
| 11:01.19 | hrw|work | so ipkg update time |
| 11:01.58 | hrw|work | /home/hrw/devel/build/test $ ipkg list_installed|wc 922 3688 40415 |
| 11:01.58 | hrw|work | 61 recipes needed + perl |
| 11:02.38 | hrw|work | koen: cvs/subversion/monotone - can you? |
| 11:02.59 | hrw|work | time for holy grail: bitbake nano |
| 11:03.00 | koen | apr is broken so no svn |
| 11:03.22 | hrw|work | koen: can you show me failed log? |
| 11:03.29 | koen | sure |
| 11:07.10 | koen | hrw|work: http://rafb.net/paste/results/NXWoQd74.html |
| 11:07.34 | hrw|work | ah.. that one |
| 11:07.41 | hrw|work | iirc I have unpushed fix... |
| 11:11.03 | koen | cvs and mtn 0.28 pushed to i686 feeds |
| 11:15.08 | hrw|work | thx |
| 11:15.13 | hrw|work | I started build of subversion on ewi |
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| 11:22.31 | hrw|work | NOTE: package subversion-1.4.0-r1: task do_compile: started |
| 11:28.15 | hrw|work | XorA: | /home/hrw/devel/build/collie-dev/tmp/cross/lib/gcc/arm-linux/3.4.4/../../../../arm-linux/bin/ld: cannot find -lsqlite |
| 11:28.19 | hrw|work | ~lart you |
| 11:28.35 | hrw|work | ibot_: lart xora not me |
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| 11:30.13 | XorA | hrw|work: even ibot_ has it in for you |
| 11:30.59 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * ra6859f5f... 10/ (1 packages/boost/boost_1.33.1.bb): boost: update to 1.33.1 |
| 11:31.27 | koen | NOTE: package monotone-6-0.31-r0: task do_compile: started |
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| 11:36.41 | koen | hrw|work: mtn 0.31 added to the i686 feed |
| 11:36.57 | XorA | koen: so how did you kill oesf :-) |
| 11:37.14 | koen | XorA: I think they hubris caught up with them |
| 11:37.27 | koen | s/they/their/ |
| 11:37.50 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rcfef3514... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): monotone: add 0.31 |
| 11:47.54 | mickeyl | tss |
| 11:47.54 | koen | mickeyl: did you get that devboard running yet? |
| 11:47.54 | mickeyl | which one? |
| 11:47.55 | mickeyl | FIC? |
| 11:47.55 | koen | the one with the 280DPI display |
| 11:47.55 | mickeyl | i had no single moment to work on it. this is scheduled for later today [finally] |
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| 11:47.56 | XorA | koen: its never gonna happen |
| 11:47.56 | koen | XorA: what isn't going to happen? |
| 11:47.56 | XorA | koen: linux DPI to work, last I checked both gnome and kde were hardwaired to 96DPI |
| 11:47.56 | koen | right |
| 11:47.57 | koen | but gnome and kde don't have mickeyl as chief architect :) |
| 11:47.59 | CIA-4 | 03xora 07org.oe.dev * rd8ef77dd... 10/ (1 packages/mplayer/mplayer_0.0+1.0rc1.bb): |
| 11:47.59 | CIA-4 | mplayer_0.0+1.0rc1.bb : add patch for #1666 for collie |
| 11:47.59 | CIA-4 | Thanks to the reporter of #1666 for the patch. |
| 11:47.59 | XorA | worse thing is gtk+ works in some widgets at 200 dpi, and not in others :-( |
| 11:47.59 | koen | http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/cms/index.php/v/Koen/los/F2FA7374.jpg.html?q=gallery&g2_0=gallery&g2_fromNavId=x3285d187 |
| 11:47.59 | koen | kinda foggy over here |
| 11:48.00 | XorA | koen: nice |
| 11:48.00 | XorA | koen: freezing fog here this morning, but sun burnt it off now |
| 11:52.43 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r3ac74c1b... 10/ (1 packages/apr/apr-util_1.2.7.bb): apr-util 1.2.7: do not build with sqlite2/3 support |
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| 12:06.26 | mickeyl | gcc-4.1.1-pr13685-1 doesn't apply here |
| 12:06.42 | mickeyl | Hunk #1 FAILED at 1502. |
| 12:06.57 | mickeyl | saving rejects to file gcc/config/i386/i386.c.rej |
| 12:09.58 | koen | mickeyl: you don't have any local patches? |
| 12:12.06 | hrw|work | | checking for apr_int64_t Python/C API format string... |
| 12:12.06 | hrw|work | | configure: error: failed to recognize APR_INT64_T_FMT on this platform |
| 12:12.07 | hrw|work | ~lart subversion |
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| 12:26.56 | mickeyl | koen: no local patches |
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| 12:27.48 | koen | mickeyl: weird, I have no local diff in gcc/ and I rebuild gcc a number of times since then |
| 12:27.55 | mickeyl | cross-4.1.1-r9? |
| 12:28.11 | koen | gcc, gcc-cross and gcc-cross-initial |
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| 12:30.06 | koen | mickeyl: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?action=details&pnm=libgcc1 |
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| 12:33.57 | mickeyl | well, i can't see why it doesn't apply here |
| 12:34.14 | mickeyl | but it doesn't |
| 12:34.15 | hrw|work | | /home/hrw/devel/build/collie-dev/tmp/cross/lib/gcc/arm-linux/3.4.4/../../../../arm-linux/bin/ld: cannot find -laprutil-1 |
| 12:34.18 | hrw|work | argh |
| 12:37.33 | hrw|work | NOTE: package nano-1.3.9-r0: task do_build: completed |
| 12:37.40 | hrw|work | selfhosted |
| 12:38.26 | Laibsch | XorA: I believe you forget the disable*.patch file in your commit. |
| 12:39.15 | hrw|work | Laibsch: you have account on LTG? |
| 12:40.27 | koen | Laibsch, hrw|work: could you read the first sentence from http://www.openembedded.org/people ? |
| 12:40.35 | XorA | Laibsch: you beleive right :-) |
| 12:41.24 | hrw|work | koen: can you say it to OE users which USE them as emails? |
| 12:41.24 | hrw|work | *USERS* |
| 12:41.30 | koen | you can't cure idiotism |
| 12:41.31 | hrw|work | I know |
| 12:42.46 | hrw|work | my chroot is 535M |
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| 12:44.34 | XorA | Laibsch: should be it now |
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| 12:46.42 | hrw|work | hi florian_kc |
| 12:47.08 | florian_kc | hi all |
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| 12:59.25 | Laibsc1 | hrw|work: no I don't. |
| 13:00.08 | Laibsch | koen: What about that first sentence? |
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| 13:02.45 | hrw|work | ~lart libtool |
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| 13:13.04 | koen | hrw|work: does inherit lib_package help for apr-util? |
| 13:13.45 | hrw|work | good question |
| 13:14.00 | hrw|work | rather not because it already inherit it |
| 13:17.37 | koen | D'oh! |
| 13:18.09 | koen | the sed rule problable needs to sed out WORKDIR |
| 13:18.12 | koen | as well |
| 13:19.14 | Laibsch | koen, hrw|work: ??? |
| 13:19.31 | mickeyl | gcc also fails to patch on my 2nd devel machine |
| 13:19.41 | mickeyl | can anyone else confirm or deny? |
| 13:19.43 | zecke | mickeyl: hey, how are you? |
| 13:19.46 | mickeyl | hey zecke |
| 13:19.50 | mickeyl | not bad |
| 13:19.53 | mickeyl | and you? |
| 13:20.02 | zecke | fine as well |
| 13:20.16 | zecke | almost failed my physics 'test' today... need to rewrite it new year :} |
| 13:20.21 | mickeyl | eeks |
| 13:20.25 | mickeyl | almost? |
| 13:20.27 | zecke | didn't feel too well in the morning anyway... |
| 13:20.27 | mickeyl | or fully |
| 13:21.06 | zecke | you need 12 of 18 points to pass, I scored 10.5 but if you have more than 9 points you may participate in the experiment |
| 13:21.54 | hrw|work | Laibsch: some user complained to me twice on hrw@openembedded email - first mail was copy of failed delivery to laibsch@openembedded |
| 13:22.48 | Laibsch | what about? |
| 13:22.54 | Laibsch | blueprobe? |
| 13:24.39 | hrw|work | yes |
| 13:24.47 | Laibsch | That is fixed. |
| 13:24.50 | hrw|work | I know |
| 13:25.04 | hrw|work | someone hit it before fixing and wanted to complain |
| 13:25.16 | Laibsch | BTW, koen, I would be much more careful in calling other ppl idiots if I were you. I think it is not so unreasonable to assume that laibsch@openembedded.org is a valid email if I looked at http://www.openembedded.org/viewmtn/revision.psp?id=a3b16e7432a5fa5e274d4bd9a81e933a37a23946 for example. |
| 13:25.42 | Laibsch | First sentence written somewhere else or not. |
| 13:25.59 | koen | eh |
| 13:26.05 | Laibsch | hrw|work: sorry about that. |
| 13:26.25 | mickeyl | well, http://www.openembedded.org/people states otherwise, perhaps we should add a link to that page into the Author: field |
| 13:26.31 | koen | Laibsch: we have clear note, if people choose to ignore that, they are idiots |
| 13:26.44 | koen | and as I said, we can't cure idiotism |
| 13:27.45 | Laibsch | hrw|work: my mistake. I wrongly assumed mtn would always complain if there are files which are not added to mtn yet when doing "mtn commit $dir". It had done so a few times previously. |
| 13:28.46 | koen | Laibsch: and how would you describe someone ignoring a 'failed delivery notice' ? |
| 13:29.52 | Laibsch | koen: What benefit do you get from calling idiots? |
| 13:30.02 | Laibsch | If anything this is ignorance and this is well curable. |
| 13:30.06 | Laibsch | By education. |
| 13:30.15 | Laibsch | Bad manners seem to spread, though. |
| 13:30.42 | Laibsch | That clear note, BTW, is not at all clear when reading just the commit. |
| 13:31.44 | XorA | Laibsch: insulting users is a long unix tradition, just check out the lusers command |
| 13:32.01 | Laibsch | some traditions are meant to be broken. |
| 13:32.05 | Laibsch | This one certainly is. |
| 13:32.22 | Laibsch | This is not tradition. Insulting users really is idiocy. |
| 13:33.18 | zecke | don't listen to devs :) |
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| 13:33.46 | zecke | don't have an idea about the current incidence though |
| 13:34.30 | Laibsch | mickeyl: Do the commits needs to be made by $user@openembedded.org? Would it be possible to have it done just by $user? Or otherwise have all $user@ "accounts" either forward to another address or being real accounts? You understand where I am getting at? I think it is better to either not commits with user@... or have this be addresses where the committer can be reached. Any kind of note will never cure that. Believing otherwise might also be idio |
| 13:34.50 | zecke | Laibsch: --author |
| 13:35.13 | zecke | Laibsch: takes everything you want to give. Make sure it obvious who is the author |
| 13:35.16 | Laibsch | zecke: I meant a change to the default. |
| 13:35.57 | Laibsch | It seems that is $user@openembedded.org which seems to be easy to misinterpret for an email address which it is not always. |
| 13:36.44 | zecke | Laibsch: hmm, I don't know this incidence so here are my two cents |
| 13:37.13 | zecke | Laibsch: 1) People (probably users) should be more clever than the average spam bot and not everything with '@' is an email address |
| 13:38.07 | zecke | 2) it is a keyname, it represents trust, origin of the developer |
| 13:38.17 | zecke | and is not a coordinate on how to get hold of this developer :) |
| 13:39.31 | XorA | ~users |
| 13:39.41 | ibot | so this is what we get for sharing our unpaid volunteer work with you? complaints and accuses? <irony> well done, this clearly supports our motivation to continue working on open source projects. </irony> |
| 13:39.41 | Crofton|home | I don't want to talk to users who can't figure out how to properly contact me ... |
| 13:39.41 | hrw|work | I have a problem with OE |
| 13:39.41 | hrw|work | glibc-utils NEED cpp to be usable |
| 13:39.42 | hrw|work | but to build cpp you need glibc |
| 13:39.42 | Laibsch | zecke: BTW, it was the gtkmm version which was giving me problems for the cvs version of granule. Good instinct! |
| 13:39.42 | hrw|work | so RDEPENDS_glibc-utils = "cpp" is not a solution.. |
| 13:39.43 | zecke|food | Laibsch: hehe, I'm following my instinct and will eat something |
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| 13:39.47 | zecke|food | hrw|work: should I create a static cpp? |
| 13:40.23 | XorA | zecke|food: cpp in python :-) |
| 13:40.30 | hrw|work | zecke|food: not needed |
| 13:40.53 | hrw|work | zecke|food: on target you need cpp for glibc-utils, during build you normally have it on host |
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| 13:56.02 | koen | hrw|work: ask the CPP question on the list |
| 14:08.15 | hrw|work | will do |
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| 14:16.23 | hrw|work | wb greentux |
| 14:19.58 | hrw|work | CIA-4: ping |
| 14:21.56 | hrw|work | koen: can you do 'bitbake task-self-hosting' and add into feed? |
| 14:22.27 | koen | I can try :) |
| 14:22.28 | CIA-4 | 03xora 07org.oe.oz354x * r2ba9a32f... 10/ (1 packages/gtk+/gtk+-1.2_1.2.10.bb): gtk+-1.2_1.2.10.bb : needs libxt provided by xt bb file |
| 14:22.34 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r1d2340f5... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-self-hosting.bb): |
| 14:22.34 | CIA-4 | task-self-hosting: Metapackage to install everything needed for self hosted builds |
| 14:22.34 | CIA-4 | Tested with Angstrom-2007.1/i686 build in chroot - bitbake nano finished. |
| 14:22.39 | CIA-4 | 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r376e6271... 10/ (1 packages/mplayer/files/disable-executable-stack-test.patch): mplayer_0.0+1.0rc1.bb : remeber the actual patch |
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| 14:30.12 | koen | hrw|work: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?action=details&pnm=task-self-hosting |
| 14:30.32 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rdc67e5dc... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-self-hosting.bb): task-self-hosting: fix typos |
| 14:30.36 | koen | hrw|work: as you can see subversion is still missing |
| 14:30.57 | koen | since apr-util 0.9.12 fails to build and 1.2.7 doesn't get picked up by svn |
| 14:31.46 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r8b3f99ca... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-self-hosting.bb): task-self-hosting: fix packaging |
| 14:31.49 | hrw|work | I know. |
| 14:32.39 | greentux | pong hrw|work |
| 14:32.47 | hrw|work | I need to check at home do I have some patches for it |
| 14:32.53 | hrw|work | pöng greentux |
| 14:34.00 | zecke|food | re |
| 14:34.15 | zecke|food | hrw|work: I can extract a static stand alone version of CPP if you want to |
| 14:36.06 | hrw|work | zecke|food: I can do 'bitbake gcc' and then 'ipkg install cpp glibc-utils' without problems |
| 14:36.34 | hrw|work | zecke|food: the problem rather is 'how to tell bitbake to use RDEPENDS without building RDEPENDS |
| 14:38.25 | CIA-4 | 03xora 07org.oe.oz354x * r8f08a719... 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): glib-1.2_1.2.10.bb : import patch from .dev to fix pkgconfig usage. |
| 14:38.44 | hrw|work | mail sent |
| 14:39.01 | koen | I bet RP will say bad things about debian.bbclass ;) |
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| 14:45.44 | hrw|work | now time to fix binutils<>busybox<>elfutils? |
| 14:46.02 | CIA-4 | 03xora 07org.oe.oz354x * rb9070fe5... 10/ (8 files in 3 dirs): |
| 14:46.02 | CIA-4 | dillo_0.8.6.bb: Add the enhanced version of dillo that was added to .dev |
| 14:46.02 | CIA-4 | supports nice features like frames and tabs. |
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| 15:00.32 | greentux | has somebody experience with syncml and opie/gpe? |
| 15:00.57 | koen | both can sync to opensync, which in turn supports syncml |
| 15:02.24 | greentux | koen: tnx... also some advaced features like reaccuring dates ? |
| 15:02.53 | koen | greentux: depends on what the opensync plugin supports |
| 15:03.04 | koen | afaik the opie one is broken |
| 15:03.23 | zecke | yeah according to paul's blog it needs some more work |
| 15:03.26 | ade|desk | opie broken .... never |
| 15:04.21 | greentux | ok and the gpe apps (datebook/adressbook) are prepared to use the opensync...? I tested opie 1 year ago... never gpe |
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| 15:04.45 | koen | greentux: yes, that's what gpesync does |
| 15:04.55 | koen | greentux: #gpe, btw |
| 15:05.02 | greentux | tnx |
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| 15:20.45 | schurig | hrw|work: hi |
| 15:20.59 | hrw|work | hi schurig |
| 15:21.07 | schurig | hrw|work: I did have NIL free time in the last weeks. Fixing customer problems all the time ... and the company I work for moved to a new location as well |
| 15:21.44 | zecke | schurig: smaller or bigger office? |
| 15:21.53 | hrw|work | schurig: heh.. I have other workk too |
| 15:21.55 | schurig | zecke: smaller & cheaper |
| 15:22.21 | schurig | zecke: we didn't use the 2nd floor (english, american counting, not german) |
| 15:22.50 | schurig | and in the new location we pay almost half the monthly rent that we paid in the other building |
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| 15:26.37 | ade|desk | schurig: yeah we count from 0, its the binary in us ;) |
| 15:27.39 | XorA | schurig: but uk and america differ in floor counting |
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| 15:28.50 | schurig | XorA: didn't knew this |
| 15:29.18 | schurig | here we (God ol' Germany) have cellar, basement, 1st floor, 2nd floor and so on |
| 15:29.26 | XorA | schurig: we coung Ground, 1st, 2nd |
| 15:29.41 | XorA | schurig: so sound like UK == German |
| 15:29.47 | hrw|work | XorA: so you are normal people |
| 15:29.51 | hrw|work | == Poland |
| 15:30.02 | schurig | XorA: that's weird. I always thought that UK does everything different :-) |
| 15:30.39 | XorA | schurig: I feel more at home in a european country I dont speak the language of than I ever did in the USA |
| 15:30.54 | XorA | schurig: so I guess we are nearer EU than tabloids let on |
| 15:33.53 | XorA | /dev/hda6 41G 38G 861M 98% /home hmmm, time to purge the pr0n collection a bit |
| 15:35.01 | XorA | although |
| 15:35.07 | XorA | ~lart metric measurements |
| 15:37.57 | ade|desk | XorA: miles for real distance , metres for dist to junction, and height in feet ... thats what should happen |
| 15:38.59 | XorA | whats easier to order, 1 Pint of beer, or 568ml of beer :-) |
| 15:39.11 | ade|desk | 'a' beer |
| 15:39.21 | koen | 'that one' |
| 15:39.52 | XorA | its now illegal in the UK to use imperial :-( |
| 15:39.57 | koen | ordering a guinness in the usa is nerve wrecking as well |
| 15:40.06 | hvontres|poodle | XorA: one burbon, one scotch and one beer :) |
| 15:40.23 | ade|desk | XorA: no its not, it just has to be labelled in metric first |
| 15:40.25 | hrw|work | one Tyskie |
| 15:40.42 | XorA | ade|desk: no, its going to change again I beleive to make imperial totally outlawed |
| 15:40.52 | XorA | ade|desk: we got some legal notice at work |
| 15:41.55 | XorA | inches rock, long live inches |
| 15:42.09 | ade|desk | oh well , thats life, pubs will sell 500ml with +- 68ml error i guess |
| 15:42.13 | koen | inches are emu |
| 15:42.19 | hrw|work | XorA: http://youtube.com/watch?v=F7o7r6IvGLk |
| 15:42.19 | koen | s/emu/emo/ |
| 15:42.44 | hvontres|poodle | XorA: Obviously you don't work as a Mechanical Designer then...:) |
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| 15:43.10 | XorA | hvontres|poodle: at least if yah all used inches, space ships would end up the right size :-) |
| 15:44.24 | koen | heh |
| 15:44.26 | koen | rock boots |
| 15:44.37 | koen | it's been a while since I saw a pair of those |
| 15:45.28 | hvontres|poodle | XorA: Just think tho... you could go 120 without getting as big a ticket :) |
| 15:45.49 | schurig | XorA: then just order half-a-liter of beer |
| 15:46.14 | koen | 120? |
| 15:46.30 | koen | move to germany, the slow lane goes 160 :) |
| 15:46.34 | schurig | (but actually most glasses are 0.33 liter here, I guess (/me doesn't drink alcohol) |
| 15:47.05 | hvontres|poodle | koen: I live in the land of the 405 freeway... we are lucky to get up to 65 miles/hr... :) |
| 15:47.06 | ade|desk | ah! a woman's drink m'lord |
| 15:47.33 | XorA | schurig: then I miss 68ml of getting drunk juice :-) |
| 15:47.50 | schurig | koen: there's no slow lane. Just many drivers from netherlands that didn't get a license after 3 attempts which will then get a yellow car sign plate by grace |
| 15:48.20 | koen | NL = Nur Links fahren |
| 15:48.30 | zecke | lol |
| 15:48.55 | schurig | koen: NL = Nur Langsam fahren |
| 15:48.59 | koen | and the plates have nothing to do with a drivers license |
| 15:49.11 | schurig | koen: Lottery? |
| 15:49.38 | koen | the plates go with the car |
| 15:49.56 | koen | you can have a car with plates without having a driver license |
| 15:50.13 | schurig | koen: (you probably get them after insuring your car, but what I wrote is just a joke that many germans make about dutch car drivers, translated by my incomplete skills from DE to EN) |
| 15:50.15 | koen | just don't drive it on the road |
| 15:50.53 | ade|desk | does that work with lorries too, i was stuck behind a .nl plate thismorning... 40mph .... grrr |
| 15:51.19 | hvontres|poodle | schurig: at least you don't have to deal with morons in 2 ton SUV's yacking on the phone while changing lanes right into you :) |
| 15:52.01 | XorA | hvontres|poodle: Ive seen a 40 ton artic go off the road because the driver was reading his paper :-) |
| 15:52.07 | koen | XorA: only the ones from the last 30 years |
| 15:52.48 | XorA | then schurig joke is good :-) |
| 15:52.57 | ade|desk | i think the swiss have personal plates and a book listing all the people, so you can have a quiet word about their driving ... nice idea |
| 15:53.17 | hvontres|poodle | XorA: sure, but I get to drive with these idots DAILY...(well at least when I don't take the train ) |
| 15:53.28 | ade|desk | ... also you can find out the nice skirt's address as they fly by in an open top |
| 15:54.07 | XorA | hvontres|poodle: thats why I get the train into Edinburgh :-), that and I couldnt be bothered to sit test again |
| 15:54.08 | hvontres|poodle | ade|desk: How many cars total do you think the swiss have :) |
| 15:54.15 | ade|desk | 7 |
| 15:54.40 | hvontres|poodle | XorA: Edinburgh..... Brrrrrr |
| 15:54.41 | ade|desk | maybe 8 |
| 15:55.24 | koen | hvontres|poodle: because it never rains there? |
| 15:55.50 | ade|desk | XorA: the classic comment from DofE: how do you keep the locals off the sauce long enough for them to take the test |
| 15:56.13 | ade|desk | at a driving test center in glasgow |
| 15:56.19 | XorA | ade|desk: :-D |
| 15:56.52 | ade|desk | he's a card that one |
| 15:57.09 | ade|desk | britain best comic imho |
| 15:57.39 | ade|desk | ah that wiring looks like its been done be an indian |
| 15:57.59 | ade|desk | dont stay too long you'll go all slitty'eyed |
| 15:58.15 | ade|desk | genius |
| 15:58.38 | ade|desk | what an ambassador ! |
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| 15:58.54 | hvontres|poodle | koen: It does too :) And watching the local TV "Weather" people go into near panic over 1-2 cm of rain is comical :) |
| 16:00.27 | XorA | hvontres|poodle: thats enough to stop all trains around london :-) |
| 16:05.11 | ade|desk | a single leaf can do that |
| 16:08.50 | koen | hey kergoth |
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| 16:45.00 | koen | mickeyl: getting ready for dinner? |
| 16:45.05 | mickeyl | :D |
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| 16:45.43 | ade|desk | never under estimate the power of food |
| 16:46.53 | ade|desk | a peanut has ~4J.... no wait that wrong ... its 22J , doh! |
| 16:47.24 | koen | D'oh! Nuts! |
| 16:47.28 | ade|desk | hmmmm |
| 16:47.29 | koen | mmmmm.... donuts..... |
| 16:47.52 | hrw|work | ~curse idiots which send mails by selecting random mail and pressing ;reply; or ;forward; |
| 16:48.04 | ibot | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, idiots which send mails by selecting random mail and pressing ;reply; or ;forward; ! |
| 16:48.25 | koen | ~lart idiots who use 'reply all' blindly |
| 16:48.31 | ade|desk | its reply / reply-all with lists thats more fun |
| 16:52.02 | koen | Ifaistos: 2006-12-18 17:53:53 1GvhEo-0003hR-Vr == skoroneos@digital-opsis.com R=dnslookup T=remote_smtp defer (110): Connection timed out |
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| 16:54.25 | koen | mickeyl: when are you leaving brussels? |
| 16:54.29 | koen | mickeyl: monday? |
| 16:54.42 | mickeyl | koen: yeah. at first, we need to help cleaning up, 2nd leaving on sunday is stress |
| 16:55.05 | koen | cool |
| 16:55.16 | mickeyl | fine! |
| 16:55.25 | koen | prepare to have a breakfast partner monday :) |
| 16:55.38 | mickeyl | cool! |
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| 16:58.16 | mickeyl | hmm what's the command to get a removed file back again? |
| 16:58.20 | mickeyl | (mtn, that is)= |
| 16:58.32 | zecke | mtn revert --missing |
| 16:58.37 | zecke | without -- |
| 16:58.40 | mickeyl | no, it's been removed in the repository |
| 16:58.44 | mickeyl | not in my workspace |
| 16:58.59 | koen | mtn doesn't have file revival |
| 16:59.01 | zecke | oh, hmm disapprove of the remove? pluck it? |
| 16:59.10 | koen | you'd need to check out the old rev |
| 16:59.25 | zecke | bonsai will help to find when it was removed |
| 16:59.36 | hrw|work | http://www.hrw.one.pl/2006/12/18/self-hosted-angstrom-build/ |
| 16:59.38 | mickeyl | hmmk, thanks |
| 16:59.40 | koen | njs can give you a good explanation why revival isn't supported (yet) |
| 16:59.50 | zecke | ~seen njs |
| 17:00.13 | ibot | njs <n=njs@adsl-66-159-194-130.dslextreme.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 27d 14h 11m 29s ago, saying: '...if monotone is already using a full cpu, then splitting out io onto another cpu is not going to make any difference, because obviously io is not where it is spending time :-)'. |
| 17:00.13 | mickeyl | your latest sync with poky broke 20060126 |
| 17:00.21 | zecke | 20060126? my birthday? who would break something on/for my birthday? |
| 17:01.12 | hrw|work | zecke: 24th? |
| 17:01.26 | zecke | 2006 was the 23rd :} |
| 17:01.56 | koen | room booked |
| 17:02.46 | mickeyl | cool |
| 17:04.56 | koen | heh |
| 17:05.08 | koen | looking at exim logs is quite funny |
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| 17:17.33 | CIA-4 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r9d4c6381... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): eds-dbus: repair build for SRCDATE=20060126 which has been broken by previous sync. w/ poky |
| 17:17.34 | hrw|work | cu |
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| 17:40.20 | zecke | do you know the semantic of varargs? |
| 17:41.37 | mickeyl | semantics? |
| 17:41.52 | mickeyl | you mean '...' / va_start/va_end? |
| 17:42.03 | zecke | copying va_list :) |
| 17:42.17 | zecke | MSVC can't do define FOO(fmt...) |
| 17:42.45 | mickeyl | bummer |
| 17:42.48 | mickeyl | that's quite handy in times |
| 17:43.15 | zecke | you need to do static void inline FOO(...) but now I need to pass the va_list to a couple of... |
| 17:43.23 | kergoth | hahahah |
| 17:43.26 | kergoth | http://autoconf-archive.cryp.to/ |
| 17:43.32 | kergoth | Your system policy has denied access to the requested URL. |
| 17:43.36 | kergoth | Your system policy has denied access to the requested URL. |
| 17:43.39 | kergoth | Your request was categorized by Blue Coat Web Filter as 'Adult/Mature Content;Arts/Entertainment;Blogs/Newsgroups'. |
| 17:43.45 | kergoth | gotta love corporate filters |
| 17:43.47 | mickeyl | heh |
| 17:43.48 | Crofton | ? |
| 17:43.50 | mickeyl | cheers kergoth |
| 17:43.52 | kergoth | oh ones, the m4 macros are adult! |
| 17:43.54 | Crofton | whose filter? |
| 17:43.57 | kergoth | s/ones/noes/ |
| 17:44.07 | kergoth | boo for working for a government contractor :P |
| 17:44.16 | mickeyl | no kidding, m4 -- that's at least triple-x-rated stuff |
| 17:44.20 | Crofton | hmm, changing jobs again? |
| 17:44.24 | kergoth | went back to my old one |
| 17:44.28 | kergoth | when the openedhand contract ran out |
| 17:44.28 | Crofton | ah |
| 17:44.38 | Crofton | ah |
| 17:44.49 | Crofton | they must be desperate |
| 17:45.01 | kergoth | no doubt |
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| 17:45.42 | Crofton | I guess working nights in Phoenix is good |
| 17:45.50 | Crofton | work days in winter :) |
| 17:47.14 | kergoth | i sent my resume to the recruiter since i saw the post on dice (for a couple months).. an hour and a half later i was set to start on monday |
| 17:47.17 | kergoth | yeah, i'd say desperate :P |
| 17:48.10 | Crofton | heh |
| 17:48.40 | Crofton | you need to work out an arrangement where you can do contract work without quitting |
| 17:52.18 | Ifaistos | koen : strange. when did it happen ? |
| 17:52.44 | koen | Ifaistos: for some while now |
| 17:52.55 | kergoth | Crofton: yeah, no doubt.. maybe thatd keep me from getting too bored :) |
| 17:53.06 | kergoth | Crofton: what are you working on nowadays? |
| 17:54.01 | Laibsch | perl fails compilation for sharprom: http://oz.leggewie.org/wip/log.do_compile.20508, apparently because ./miniperl cannot be found. But miniperl is right there and executable in ${S}. |
| 17:54.23 | Laibsch | This used to work before I cleaned out tmp. |
| 17:54.45 | Crofton | still software radio work |
| 17:54.52 | koen | arm-linux-ld: cannot find -lgcc_s |
| 17:54.52 | koen | make[1]: *** [libperl.so] Error 1 |
| 17:54.56 | Laibsch | Or is it gcc_s that causes this failure? |
| 17:55.00 | koen | Laibsch: I find that one a bit more suspicious |
| 17:55.04 | Crofton | trying to get the OSK to really talk to a usrp at full speed usb |
| 17:55.09 | Crofton | and finish ms thesis |
| 17:55.12 | Laibsch | OK. I will look into it. |
| 18:00.02 | Laibsch | koen, mickeyl: I believe the problem is that gcc_s is not provided by the Sharp toolchain but it is assumed provided. |
| 18:00.55 | zecke | right, gcc2 didn't have libgcc |
| 18:00.55 | mickeyl | isn't gcc_s a gcc 3.x concept anyway? |
| 18:00.58 | mickeyl | heh |
| 18:00.58 | mickeyl | yeah |
| 18:01.16 | zecke | a good reason to not work on a proprietary platform anymore :) |
| 18:01.27 | koen | i remember someone working for a certain company saying libgcc is evil and we should all use 2.95.3 |
| 18:02.16 | woglinde | koen lol |
| 18:02.40 | zecke | 2.95.3 was never released anyway |
| 18:03.36 | hrw | hb |
| 18:03.44 | woglinde | hi hrw |
| 18:03.52 | hrw | ~hail bittest |
| 18:03.58 | ibot | ACTION bows down to bittest and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 18:04.24 | Laibsch | if gcc_s is newer stuff, will bug 1700 likely ever be fixed? |
| 18:04.26 | hrw | I *NEED* new desk |
| 18:04.28 | Laibsch | !oebug 1700 |
| 18:04.29 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 1700, Status: NEW, Created: 2006-12-18 10:03 |
| 18:04.30 | cdbot2 | * * bugs.openembedded.org(AT)rolf.leggewie.biz: perl fails compilation |
| 18:04.31 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1700 |
| 18:04.38 | mickeyl | well |
| 18:04.47 | mickeyl | i'm sure there was a usable perl a couple of years ago |
| 18:04.57 | mickeyl | so if you really want, you could probably backport it |
| 18:05.53 | hrw | ~lart ossie/*.bb |
| 18:05.54 | Laibsch | mickeyl I must have compiled it just the other day before cleaning out tmp because I did get to compilation for another package which seems to depend on it. |
| 18:06.25 | Laibsch | Maybe preferring an older version will do it. |
| 18:06.56 | koen | mickeyl: heh, our 'old' perl refused to link against libgcc, so you had to LD_PRELOAD it |
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| 18:07.50 | hrw | #define apt BROKEN=1/EXCLUDE_FROM_WORLD |
| 18:09.20 | hrw | we need mirror for sablevm.org |
| 18:09.37 | zecke | later |
| 18:10.07 | woglinde | hrw hm? |
| 18:10.12 | woglinde | java gets free |
| 18:10.26 | woglinde | so sable isntneed anymore |
| 18:10.40 | hrw | woglinde: we have it in OE and I'm doing source mirror |
| 18:11.03 | woglinde | dont think someone use it |
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| 18:17.19 | hrw | thats other thing |
| 18:18.53 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rf13c4cc0... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): cmake-native: update to 2.2.3 |
| 18:19.02 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r07888ab7... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): matchbox-desktop: fixed SRC_URI for 0.8* |
| 18:20.45 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r687b5b3a... 10/ (6 files in 3 dirs): liblockfile: dropped 3 years old unfetchable 1.05 version |
| 18:20.54 | koen | hrw: I'm syncing my DL_DIR daily to http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/sources/ |
| 18:22.48 | hrw | koen: I know, but I also check does stuff has newer version, does it is maintained etc |
| 18:23.18 | hrw | koen: my DL_DIR on some machines is 2-5GB size |
| 18:23.19 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rb6e77f19... 10/ (6 files in 3 dirs): ssmtp: dropped 2.60.9 - it is not fetchable from upstream |
| 18:23.25 | hrw | not counting cvs/sv/git dirs |
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| 18:30.11 | Laibsch | shit. I am getting "mtn: error: sqlite error: database is locked" on "mtn pull" now. How do I unlock it? |
| 18:30.30 | hrw | other process use it |
| 18:30.33 | Laibsch | I already wgot the snapshot, but still the same problem. |
| 18:31.44 | Laibsch | hrw: Indeed. There was still an mtn process lurking around. Thanks. |
| 18:32.26 | hrw | Laibsch: normal thing with sqlite |
| 18:33.33 | hrw | Crofton: any plans on tarball releases of ossie*? |
| 18:42.32 | CosmicPenguin | no usplash package yet? Man - you guys are slipping |
| 18:42.46 | hrw | CosmicPenguin: psplash is in OE |
| 18:43.01 | CosmicPenguin | whats the difference? |
| 18:43.15 | hrw | no idea - did not used any |
| 18:43.17 | CosmicPenguin | and don't say 5 letters... :) |
| 18:43.40 | koen | CosmicPenguin: upsplash is ehm..... 'challenging' |
| 18:44.19 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * re11ab251... 10/ (1 packages/mailx/mailx_8.1.2-0.20031014cvs.bb): mailx: dropped not fetchable 8.1.2-0.20031014cvs version. 8.1.2-0.20020411cvs will follow after Debian 'etch' release |
| 18:45.35 | kergoth | http://autoconf-archive.cryp.to/ax_compile_check_sizeof.html - hehe, check out their implementation of that |
| 18:45.42 | kergoth | its cute |
| 18:46.18 | koen | http://autoconf-archive.cryp.to/ac_compile_check_sizeof.html that is |
| 18:46.44 | kergoth | err yeah, that :) |
| 18:47.24 | koen | gah |
| 18:47.36 | hrw | speaking of autotools... |
| 18:47.56 | koen | s/jer/ker/ |
| 18:48.00 | hrw | someone ever planed to send OE patches upstream? |
| 18:48.33 | hrw | I go - cu tomorrow |
| 18:48.34 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r3a2b24b5... 10/ (8 files in 5 dirs): matchbox stuff: fixed SRC_URI |
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| 19:12.26 | CIA-4 | 03xora 07org.oe.oz354x * r38244c29... 10/ (6 files in 3 dirs): links-x11_2.1pre26.bb, links_2.1pre26.bb : add latest versions of links |
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| 19:24.03 | koen | XorA|gone: pssst: 2.0+2.1pre<foo> |
| 19:24.08 | XorA|gone | thought Id better not give oz all the googies |
| 19:24.27 | XorA|gone | koen: I dont think links2 will ever release, its been 3-4 years of preX |
| 19:24.49 | koen | it's getting pretty chilly in hell |
| 19:24.58 | koen | mplayer 1.0, qtopia gpl, etc |
| 19:25.37 | XorA|gone | :-D |
| 19:25.47 | XorA|gone | even debian call it 2.1pre26 |
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| 19:36.41 | zecke | koen|away: wow, 8-way opteron is such a powerful ARM RISC system... |
| 19:45.09 | koen | zecke: OMG!!! teh sp33d |
| 19:45.32 | mickeyl | it's annoying at times, but I'm really missing the darn forum :D |
| 19:45.55 | koen | it's cnsf now |
| 19:46.07 | koen | clueless newby software foundation |
| 19:46.12 | mickeyl | *cough* |
| 19:47.40 | koen | in ~2 years I can celebrate 'half my life with *nix' |
| 19:47.53 | CIA-4 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * re4383a11... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 19:47.53 | CIA-4 | linux-handhelds-2.6: Drop 2.6.19-hh4, add 2.6.19-hh5. |
| 19:47.53 | CIA-4 | * Changes since -hh4 include: |
| 19:47.53 | CIA-4 | 1. PXA cpufreq warning fix. |
| 19:47.53 | CIA-4 | 2. h4000 Bluettoth support and LCD resume fix, other refactors. |
| 19:47.56 | CIA-4 | 3. hx4700 converted to use asic3_keys, other cleanups and refactors. |
| 19:47.58 | CIA-4 | 4. w100fb imageblit acceleration (not stable yet, disabled by default). |
| 19:48.08 | CIA-4 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r7bdbc64d... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-handhelds-2.6_2.6.19-hh6.bb): |
| 19:48.08 | CIA-4 | linux-handhelds-2.6: Add 2.6.19-hh6. |
| 19:48.08 | CIA-4 | * Changes since -hh5 include: |
| 19:48.08 | CIA-4 | 1. h3600, h3900, jornada56x revamped for 2.6.19. |
| 19:48.10 | CIA-4 | 2. Other changes for 2.6.19. |
| 19:48.12 | CIA-4 | 3. hx4700 UDC refactor. |
| 19:50.38 | koen | mickeyl: has FIC presence at fosdem been confirmed? |
| 19:51.09 | mickeyl | koen: yes. Sean will be an invited speaker in the embedded room |
| 19:51.17 | koen | cool |
| 19:51.23 | mickeyl | with or without a Neo1973 remains to be seen |
| 19:51.25 | mickeyl | *cough* |
| 19:51.25 | mickeyl | :D |
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| 19:51.44 | koen | didn't we get an offer for funding to OLS from some party? |
| 19:51.44 | mickeyl | can't wait to see him again |
| 19:51.47 | mickeyl | Sean's a cool guy |
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| 19:52.00 | mickeyl | did we? |
| 19:52.03 | mickeyl | can't remember |
| 19:52.31 | mickeyl | I need to talk to CELF whether they'd sponsor me the appearance @ ELC2007 if I |
| 19:52.36 | mickeyl | 'd talk there |
| 19:52.38 | koen | from a party that doesn't appreciated 'open'embedded ;) |
| 19:53.34 | koen | amazing how fast tim reply to the 'free' catchphrase |
| 19:53.35 | mickeyl | *sigh* i really need to take 6 months from working to do more for OE PR |
| 19:53.45 | koen | s/reply/replied/ |
| 19:53.47 | mickeyl | koen: heh. right, that was fu |
| 19:53.48 | mickeyl | n |
| 19:53.56 | koen | oh |
| 19:53.57 | koen | and |
| 19:54.05 | koen | mickeyl: bastard! I want to go that San Jose! |
| 19:54.08 | koen | :P |
| 19:54.26 | mickeyl | let's toss @ FOSDEM :D |
| 19:54.52 | mickeyl | Sabine's Aunt lives in California and that'd be an opportunity to visit her |
| 19:54.57 | koen | I'll just feed you too much leffe and have you sign a contract :) |
| 19:55.03 | mickeyl | heh |
| 19:55.28 | koen | to which you respond 'No, I'll feed *you* too much leffe' |
| 19:55.41 | mickeyl | :D |
| 19:56.02 | mickeyl | whom? |
| 19:56.12 | koen | Lennert Buytenhek |
| 19:56.21 | mickeyl | lucky you |
| 19:56.45 | mickeyl | sounds like I need to sit @ the Wolfson table that year ;) |
| 19:56.50 | koen | :D |
| 19:57.25 | mickeyl | black OE shirts?? |
| 19:57.25 | mickeyl | where |
| 19:57.28 | mickeyl | i want one |
| 19:59.45 | koen | we should print them |
| 19:59.45 | koen | black OE *developer* shirts |
| 19:59.58 | mickeyl | ya |
| 20:00.03 | koen | better than a TT logo ;) |
| 20:00.10 | mickeyl | i'd like my name on the back though |
| 20:00.14 | mickeyl | in white |
| 20:00.28 | koen | or are you going for the '3rd FOSDEM wearing the same shirt' prize? |
| 20:00.39 | mickeyl | hehehe |
| 20:00.51 | mickeyl | i have a new one |
| 20:00.54 | mickeyl | from DevDays |
| 20:01.01 | mickeyl | and at least I have an Opie shirt since a couple of weeks now |
| 20:01.31 | mickeyl | the message is "Mickey will code any GUI as long as you pay him" |
| 20:01.32 | mickeyl | :D |
| 20:02.16 | mickeyl | that reminds me adding 'JUCE' to the list of GUIs to learn next year |
| 20:03.07 | koen | cute logo |
| 20:03.27 | mickeyl | check their demo |
| 20:03.30 | mickeyl | it's impressive |
| 20:04.41 | mickeyl | btw. |
| 20:05.07 | mickeyl | what would you say if I told you we have to patch Gtk+ for OpenMoko? |
| 20:05.15 | mickeyl | no API changes though |
| 20:05.20 | koen | depends on the patch |
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| 20:07.16 | koen | IMO openmoko should run against an unmodified gtk+ |
| 20:07.46 | mickeyl | it will run, but I don't see a better way to cure some look issues |
| 20:07.59 | koen | (although in OE we patch the hell out of gtk+) |
| 20:08.40 | koen | mickeyl: no other ways to cure the issues? |
| 20:08.51 | mickeyl | no way |
| 20:08.53 | koen | i.e. have you asked the gtk mailinglist? |
| 20:09.05 | mickeyl | no, i looked at the source, that was enough |
| 20:09.15 | mickeyl | i can judge where they have a gtk_paint_foo or not :) |
| 20:09.45 | mickeyl | a missing gtk_paint_foo even can't be added through an engine |
| 20:09.51 | mickeyl | because it just wouldn't get called |
| 20:10.04 | koen | would upstream accept that patch? |
| 20:10.07 | mickeyl | never |
| 20:10.15 | koen | does it impact 'general' usage of gtk+? |
| 20:10.16 | mickeyl | likewise... removing drawing something |
| 20:10.51 | mickeyl | no impact other than drawing things differently... which could be impact enough :/ |
| 20:11.09 | koen | can it be #ifdef'ed to read an env var? |
| 20:11.48 | mickeyl | @ runtime? |
| 20:11.52 | koen | (thinking about how to integrate it in OE) |
| 20:12.21 | koen | since openmoko is essentially a DE, not a distro |
| 20:12.54 | mickeyl | the alternative to patching is adding more widgets |
| 20:13.01 | mickeyl | which is totally backwards |
| 20:13.22 | mickeyl | and doesn't help curing the problems with running non-moko gtk+ apps |
| 20:13.27 | mickeyl | *shrug* |
| 20:13.28 | mickeyl | we'll see |
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| 20:17.17 | kergoth | DE? |
| 20:17.31 | koen | Desktop Environment |
| 20:17.38 | kergoth | ah |
| 20:17.43 | koen | I lack a better description |
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| 20:42.21 | hrw | devkitidp-pxa255-kernel - who maintain it? |
| 20:42.29 | hrw | Connecting to ftp.accelent.com|69.218.85.54|:21... failed: Connection timed out. |
| 20:42.47 | hrw | linux-mtx-3 is not fetchable too |
| 20:45.00 | hrw | ~lart pavel machek for suspend in 2.6 kernel |
| 20:45.28 | hrw | Stopping tasks: ====================================================================================================== stopping tasks timed out after 20 seconds (1 tasks remaining): |
| 20:45.56 | hrw | so suspend ~= suspend (~= is random equal or not) |
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| 20:54.51 | Crofton | koen, you needed to wear a mike during your talk at FOSDEM last year |
| 20:55.22 | koen | I suspect michealo needs a better cam ;) |
| 20:55.31 | Crofton | :) |
| 20:55.47 | Crofton | drink less beer two, the picture is tilted |
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| 20:55.56 | koen | :) |
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| 21:17.22 | hrw | do we need rxvt-unicode 5.2? |
| 21:29.55 | hrw | ~lart git fetcher |
| 21:32.31 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rcbd4bc26... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): libmatchbox: fix SRC_URI |
| 21:32.55 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r2f2a2ab7... 10/ (9 files in 5 dirs): ncftp: update to 3.2.0 |
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| 21:35.16 | hrw | FSCK. |
| 21:35.23 | hrw | one changeset got extras |
| 21:35.59 | cbrake | hrw: I started the devkitidp stuff, but don't have access to HW anymore. I don't think anyone at Bsquare is interested in maintaining it right now either. |
| 21:36.06 | cbrake | hrw: I have the patches, so maybe I should just add them to OE instead of relying on the ftp site. |
| 21:36.18 | hrw | cbrake: would be nice |
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| 21:42.17 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rf62f7934... 10/ (1 packages/apr/apr-util_0.9.12.bb): apr-util: revert wrong changeset |
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| 21:48.20 | hrw | cbrake: do you have GPL_ixp400LinuxEthernetDriverPatch-1_5_1.zip somewhere? |
| 21:48.40 | hrw | or someone? |
| 21:48.41 | cbrake | hrw: lemme look ... |
| 21:48.56 | hrw | I need md5sum of it |
| 21:49.53 | cbrake | hrw: no, all I have is the 1_5 version. |
| 21:49.58 | hrw | ok |
| 21:50.12 | hrw | I fixed SRC_URI of 1.5.1 and wanted to be sure that it is same |
| 21:51.11 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rdff335f8... 10/ (1 packages/ixp425-eth/ixp400-eth_1.5.1.bb): ixp425-eth 1.5.1: fix SRC_URI |
| 21:51.16 | cbrake | hrw: what are you working on? |
| 21:51.42 | hrw | cbrake: source mirror for celf |
| 21:51.57 | cbrake | hrw: very good! |
| 21:52.13 | hrw | currently have 11G fetched |
| 21:53.21 | hrw | cbrake: and during that work I fix SRC_URI of recipes, update to newer, drop older etc |
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| 21:56.24 | Ifaistos | any idea on how to get a variable from local.conf as a list ? I am using bb.data.getVar and bb.data.expand to get the string and .join to put it in a list but i am getting instaed of the sting used in the individual characters and not as a string |
| 21:56.50 | cbrake | hrw: btw, congratulations on the new job. Will you be contracting through your biz or working full time for someone? |
| 21:56.53 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rad9ccc1e... 10/ (1 packages/man/man_1.5m2.bb): man: dropped 1.5m2 as unfetchable |
| 21:57.19 | hrw | cbrake: contracting my biz as full time job for company |
| 21:58.23 | zecke | Ifaistos: split the string? |
| 21:58.23 | cbrake | hrw: Excellent. |
| 21:59.34 | cbrake | hrw: I really like the flexibility of doing work through my own biz -- lets me pick the things I want to do. Also gives me the flexiblity to work way too much :-\ |
| 22:00.06 | hrw | cbrake: yes - choosing work is good thing. |
| 22:00.06 | Ifaistos | zecke : I am trying to pass the "user blacklist" to icecc. I declare it in local.conf like ICECC_USER_CLASS_BL="native" but instead of getting "native" i get all single characters |
| 22:00.29 | Ifaistos | zecke : in the list. |
| 22:00.53 | zecke | no :) |
| 22:01.04 | zecke | you interpret the string as list |
| 22:02.05 | Ifaistos | zecke : This is what i do -> "system_class_blacklist".join(map(str, bb.data.expand('${ICECC_USER_CLASS_BL}', d, 1) )) |
| 22:02.37 | zecke | doesn't make much sense to me :) |
| 22:02.48 | zecke | what do you want to do? |
| 22:03.49 | hrw | fsck.. I cleaned dl_dir at home |
| 22:04.06 | Ifaistos | zecke : wait i'll copy the code snip in pastebin |
| 22:05.38 | Ifaistos | zecke : http://pastebin.ca/284149 |
| 22:06.02 | hrw | Filesystem "sda6": Access to block zero in inode 134836070 start_block: 0 start_off: 0 blkcnt: 1d400 extent-state: 0 lastx: 0 |
| 22:06.05 | hrw | Filesystem "sda6": Access to block zero in inode 134836070 start_block: 0 start_off: 0 blkcnt: 1d400 extent-state: 0 lastx: 0 |
| 22:06.08 | hrw | fsck. |
| 22:06.22 | hrw | xfs strikes back? |
| 22:06.50 | hrw | brb - init 1 calls.. |
| 22:07.40 | Ifaistos | zecke : my problem is the that user supplied packages evaluate as characters and not as strings and as a result simply get ignored |
| 22:08.15 | zecke | Ifaistos: "system_class_blacklist"? |
| 22:08.27 | zecke | Ifaistos: sure you want to quote that? |
| 22:08.51 | Ifaistos | zecke : i am not sure about anything anymore :) |
| 22:09.02 | zecke | ["cross"] + bb.data.getVar('FOO').split()? |
| 22:09.52 | Ifaistos | zecke : wait i'll try it |
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| 22:11.22 | Ifaistos | zecke : yep. that was it :) |
| 22:11.43 | Ifaistos | ~hail zecke |
| 22:11.45 | ibot | ACTION bows down to zecke and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 22:18.50 | zecke | hehe |
| 22:18.53 | zecke | n8 |
| 22:22.31 | woglinde | night |
| 22:22.42 | hrw | n8 zecke |
| 22:24.01 | greentux | mickey|tv: most of my questions were answered on #qtopia. tnx |
| 22:24.33 | hrw | ~curse koen |
| 22:24.35 | ibot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, koen ! |
| 22:25.30 | hrw | added binutils 2.17.50.0.5 without USING binutils.inc |
| 22:26.19 | kergoth | boo for metadata duplication |
| 22:26.22 | koen | hrw: I didn't understand the differences between the .inc and the .bb, so I left it at that |
| 22:26.42 | hrw | koen: and angstrom ship broken binutils-symlinks |
| 22:26.58 | koen | if you say so |
| 22:29.54 | hrw | Package binutils-symlinks wants to install file /usr/bin/strings But that file is already provided by package busybox |
| 22:29.59 | hrw | Package binutils-symlinks wants to install file /usr/bin/ar But that file is already provided by package busybox |
| 22:30.57 | Ifaistos | zecke : finished icecc.bbclass with all the stuff we have been discussing -> http://pastebin.ca/284175 |
| 22:31.22 | hrw | koen: that bug does not occur in 2.16 |
| 22:31.32 | hrw | or other which use binutils.inc |
| 22:32.09 | Ifaistos | zecke : also created a icecc-create-env.bb that fetches the script from our site and installs it in staging, so it will be transparent to users |
| 22:32.40 | Ifaistos | zecke : if ICECC_PATH is not defined tries to find it using 'which' |
| 22:32.42 | hrw | Ifaistos: big script? maybe include it in OE? |
| 22:33.42 | Ifaistos | zecke : and user can exclude a packages using a specific class or specific packages from been proccesed with icecc |
| 22:33.47 | hrw | !oebug 1465 |
| 22:33.58 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 1465, Status: NEW, Created: 2006-10-11 08:30 |
| 22:33.59 | cdbot2 | * * koen(AT)dominion.kabel.utwente.nl: binutils(-symlinks) conflicts with other packages |
| 22:34.00 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1465 |
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| 22:35.31 | Ifaistos | hrw : well its actually a modified script from icecc to work with OE |
| 22:36.36 | Ifaistos | hrw : i think there will be like a gazilion bugs... :) but its a start :) |
| 22:36.49 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rf499733e... 10/ (6 files in 3 dirs): binutils: started unifing recipes to be able to fix #1465 |
| 22:37.53 | hrw | Installing binutils-symlinks (2.17.50.0.5-r1) to root... |
| 22:37.53 | hrw | Configuring binutils-symlinks |
| 22:37.53 | hrw | update-alternatives: Linking //usr/bin/ar to i686-angstrom-linux-ar |
| 22:37.53 | hrw | update-alternatives: Linking //usr/bin/strings to i686-angstrom-linux-strings |
| 22:38.05 | hrw | now better |
| 22:38.23 | hrw | and cu |
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