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07:17.55Ifaistosmorning all
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07:19.18arm-barhello\
07:19.25arm-bar<PROTECTED>
07:20.34NAbyssarm-bar: OPIE?
07:21.46arm-barno; gpe on e17
07:21.53NAbyssNo idea.
07:21.54arm-baror e17 on gpe
07:22.03NAbyssUse the xrandr tools?
07:23.02arm-barthanks
07:24.36arm-barthat will do but is there a way to turn off the rotation?
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07:27.33NAbyssarm-bar: No idea, don't use e17 here
07:27.46NAbyssarm-bar: A hack would be to remove the xrandr extension from the x11 conf
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07:45.06arm-barThanks NAbyss
07:45.14NAbyssDid it work?
07:47.07arm-barnaw. I am chicken when it comes to messing with things like X.
07:48.15arm-barI will just call xrandr tools before I play my avi untill OI can get back into the forums to search for a more permanate solution.
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08:12.08vlogood morning all
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08:16.08Ifaistosvlo : hi
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08:35.36CIA-403ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * r6d4012f0... 10/ (1 classes/icecc.bbclass):
08:35.36CIA-4Updated icecc.bbclass
08:35.36CIA-4Handles native/cross cross-kernel and target compile jobs
08:35.36CIA-4Accepts user supplied package and class exclusion lists
08:35.55CIA-403ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * r6e6bbf55... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): icecc-create-env.bb to fetch script required by icecc.bbclass
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08:42.28vlohum ... I have glibc problems again
08:44.30vlohttp://pastebin.ca/284787 I had the same problem last week, one update got me out of it. I made a new update yesterday and now the glibc problem is here again ...
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08:46.47XorAmorning
08:50.09IfaistosXorA : hi !
08:52.13vlohum, I sometimes have a message which looks like NOTE: preferred version 2.5 of glibc not available ... could this be related to my problem ?
08:52.23XorAvlo: that is normal
08:52.24vlohey XorA
08:54.14koenhey XorA
08:54.26XorAhey koen
08:55.01XorAvlo: maybe you should nick a Angstrom tarball and try and run that on your system
08:55.09XorAvlo: that will rule out kernel fault
08:55.14Ifaistoskoen : morning
08:55.23koenhey Ifaistos
08:56.45vloXorA: yes that's a good idea, I will try this
08:56.54vlomorning koen
08:57.03koenhey vlo
08:58.21koenhrw|gone: updated binutils is in the feeds now
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08:59.00zeckehi
08:59.09koenguten Morgen herr Freyther
08:59.55zeckeguten tag sehr geehrter kollege
09:01.26IfaistosI am having trouble when i try to specify a DEPENDS=icecc-create-env  in icecc.bbclass
09:01.58Ifaistosthis package should just download and unpack/install a script in staging/ice/
09:02.15Ifaistosi am getting the following error
09:02.25Ifaistoshttp://pastebin.ca/284793
09:02.58Ifaistosit seems like a circular dependancy of some short
09:03.05zeckelooks like it
09:03.27Ifaistoszecke : hi
09:05.07Ifaistosany idea how to solve this ?
09:06.34XorAIfaistos: dont do the DEPENDS+= when building icecc-create-env
09:06.57koenIfaistos: did icce-create-env do 'inherit native'?
09:07.07Ifaistoskoen : yes
09:07.08koenand INHIBIT_DEFAULT_DEPS?
09:07.11Ifaistoskoen : yes
09:07.13zeckeIfaistos: do you add icecc to DEPENDS from your icecc.bbclass?
09:07.31zeckeIfaistos: and you inherit autotools?
09:07.52hrw|workmorgen
09:08.19Ifaistosi have pushed both the new icecc.bbclass and icecc-create.env.bb to the rep minutes ago
09:08.42Ifaistoszecke : no just icecc-create-env
09:08.42zeckeIfaistos: need to hack on minix atm, but don't create circular deps :)
09:08.49koenhrw|work: Dzień dobry
09:09.02Ifaistoshrw|work : morning
09:09.02XorAyo hrw|work
09:09.25hrw|workkoen: looks like I will drop that arpwatch
09:11.13Ifaistosthis is what the icecc-create-env looks like -> http://pastebin.ca/284804
09:20.49Ifaistoszecke : I have removed the dependancy so that icecc.bbclass can work. Let me know if you find sometime to look at solving this
09:21.02CIA-403ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * rc491123f... 10/ (1 classes/icecc.bbclass): Remove depedancy on icecc-create-env to temporeraly solve circullar dependancy problem
09:21.32zeckewill hack on minix until 13h
09:26.38koenzecke: minix support for OE?
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09:35.27zeckeno
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09:48.58Ifaistoskoen : Just noticed that the last commit message i have is on the 15th. Do you still get errors when try to send emails ?
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10:00.00ade|deskmorning all
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10:13.00Ifaistosade|desk : Hi
10:13.12IfaistosHas anyone used that ? -> http://www.darcs.net/DarcsWiki/Tailor#fndef-6a3210770b09ff246285f014f87ca00d722d422d-2
10:13.45Ifaistosi am looking for a way to sync our subversion rep with OE
10:14.05zeckewe have used tailor for our 'battle of the scm's
10:14.26zeckebesides some weird commit message mtn -> subversion works okay
10:14.51vloXorA: I have tested with the angstrom mx31ads images I've found here, it doesn't work either !
10:15.05vlohere is where I found them: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/20061214/mx31ads/
10:16.05Ifaistoszecke : Do you have any config files for that ?
10:16.26zeckehmm, I fear I asked koen to rm -rf my homedir on ewi :}
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10:18.32zeckeIfaistos: the config is quite easy, the mtn reader needed some hacks
10:18.54zeckethese crazy germans use 'ö', 'ä', 'ß' in commit message which python chokes on coverting
10:19.18Ifaistos:)
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10:26.44hrw|workhttp://www.openembedded.org/~hrw/screenlog.txt - new list of failues
10:29.02CIA-403hrw 07org.oe.dev * rb313b9cf... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): arpwatch: dropped 2.1a13
10:29.20koenhrw|work: gbluezconf can be dropped, as well as older libxml recipes
10:29.54hrw|workkoen: feel free to do it - you have r/w
10:30.06koenhrw|work: you're the one having the error
10:30.13hrw|work;)
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10:38.55koenXorA: :D
10:39.19CIA-403xora 07org.oe.dev * r7077b8b2... 10/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
10:39.20CIA-4links_2.0+2.1pre26.bb, links-x11_2.0+2.1pre26.bb : new kOEn compliant
10:39.20CIA-4naming scheme. Also broke common stuff into links.inc and added some
10:39.20CIA-4python to version doesnt need to be hardcoded into .bb
10:41.59XorAhrw|work: anything you really want to see in the next OZ release?
10:42.31hrw|workXorA: any ideas what to add?
10:42.56XorAhrw|work: well ive done dillo, links, mplayer am looking at epdfview
10:43.18XorAhrw|work: claws-mail needs new libetpan, which I dont know if it break opie-mail
10:43.28koenXorA: doesn't the latest epdfview require and updated glib?
10:43.39XorAkoen: hence why I am looking
10:44.01hrw|workXorA: I do not know should I stay with gtk 2.6.10 or update to 2.10.6/xft/cairo/angstrom one
10:44.03XorAkoen: it needs new poppler
10:44.25XorAhrw|work: stay where you are, OZ is an incremental, when you start OZ 3.6.X then switch
10:45.11koenmixing gslice and non-gslice needs strange env vars
10:46.35XorAhrw|work: also you cannot ipkg update between gtk+ versions
10:46.56hrw|workok
10:46.58koenunless you recompile and bump PR on lots of stuff
10:47.13koen*lots*
10:47.27hrw|workkoen: lots like 'whole feed'?
10:47.32koennah
10:47.40koen90% of gtk apps
10:47.46hrw|workXorA: I do not want 3.6.x
10:48.35hrw|workI want angstrom 2007.something
10:49.01koenwhere 'something' is probably >=3
10:49.16XorAhrw|work: then we are best making next OZ tide over to 2007.1 as that is looking quite stable apart from the zlib heisenbug
10:50.07hrw|workXorA: angstrom does not support opie. I want to add opie 1.2.2 to oz 3.5.5
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10:53.09zeckehrw|work: wait for OpieII?
10:53.59hrw|workzecke: 3.5.5 will clear some OZ problems
10:54.05XorAzecke: will hell not be frozen before that release
10:55.56hrw|workzecke: do you have any plans about bittest^Wbitbake-qa?
10:56.07zeckeXorA: maybe hell will freeze soon
10:56.24zeckehrw|work: should I have any plans? one plan was to incrementally write the report...
10:56.32XorAzecke: you realise we will be flooded with releases the day hell freezes
10:56.55zeckeXorA: yes from MS DOS1.0 up to 6.22 full sourcecode
10:57.16hrw|workzecke: I have updated bittest to work with trunk of bitbake (but without threading)
10:57.18zeckeXorA: printers and fax machines will print Windows source and other proprietary junk...
10:58.37vlohum ... this looks very weird, my rootfs is fine when I use it through NFS, but not with jffs2 (with different kernels and with angstrom repository image and self-built image)
10:59.02koenanother victim of the zlib heisenbug
10:59.33XorA!oebug #1684
10:59.34cdbot2* * Bug 1684, Status: NEW, Created: 2006-12-14 07:27
10:59.35cdbot2* * dp(AT)xora.org.uk: Angstrom segfault problems when booting from flash
10:59.36cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1684
10:59.46XorAvlo: add your notes to that bug
11:00.03zecke*need for food*
11:00.12koenthai food?
11:00.57zeckeno no, maybe vietnamese food today
11:01.01zeckecertainly no thai today
11:01.18koenI liked the vietnamese food in berlin
11:01.24koenand the thai food as well
11:01.48XorAvlo: also note lrg said, he never tested the drivers when he forward ported them
11:02.01zeckekoen: feel free to crash at my place
11:03.42vloXorA: yep, I know, that's why I'm still using Freescale 2.6.16.19 kernel (I have adapted lrg recipe so that it builds this kernel), I think the 2.6.19 still needs some work (now that I have a "working system", I could do this)
11:04.47XorAvlo: oh, heisenbug doesnt affect earlier than 2.6.18
11:04.57XorAvlo: your flash drivers must just be buggered
11:05.04vlotoo bad I didn't try NFS filesystem earlier
11:05.56vloXorA: ok, so I think my issue is not the same: maybe some hardware or Freescale driver issue
11:07.22XorAvlo: sounds like it
11:08.36zeckehmm later
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11:13.06CIA-403xora 07org.oe.oz354x * r33a62c47... 10/ (1 packages/cups/cups_1.1.23.bb): cups_1.1.23.bb : cups needs fakeroot during install
11:17.10koenXorA: I wonder how we can educate users that you don't need 'releases' to get bugfixes out
11:21.03XorAkoen: just by making good quality package feeds
11:21.24koenXorA: the problem is with the Z users
11:21.35koen'if it has a problem, reflash to something else'
11:22.27XorAkoen: pdaXrom, shaprom, cacko rom, none of which have working ipkg, hence when you stuff, reflash is only option
11:22.43hrw|workoz sucks beacuse opie sucks because it can't run opera
11:22.43koenright
11:23.04hrw|workipkg sucks
11:23.14XorAsomeone take a couple of hours, write a qt output driver for links, suddenly opera looks old skewl
11:23.41koenthat someone should get opie/x11 working
11:26.58koenhrw|work: btw, opera doesn't respond to inquiries about getting version out for OE based distros
11:29.46hrw|workkoen: I know
11:29.59hrw|workkoen: and I know that they will not release it for such distros
11:35.51XorAJ2ME and we can run opera :-)
11:35.56CIA-403xora 07org.oe.oz354x * r33a62c47... 10/ (1 packages/cups/cups_1.1.23.bb): cups_1.1.23.bb : cups needs fakeroot during install
11:41.33mickeylmorning folks
11:41.37mickeylXorA: is links/x11 good?
11:41.42koenhey mickeyl
11:41.58XorAmickeyl: it the browser I always use on my terrier/c7x0
11:42.11mickeylXorA: have a screenshot handy?
11:42.12koenmickeyl: remember the talk we had about reflash-kiddies 2 years ago?
11:42.15XorAmickeyl: its fast, neat, and works with quite a lot of pages
11:42.21mickeylkoen: yeah
11:42.22koenmickeyl: I suspect the situation hasn't changed
11:42.27mickeylheh
11:42.43XorAmickeyl: I did upload some to scap, but I guess they gone these days
11:45.25CIA-403hrw 07org.oe.dev * r70769bde... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): stunnel: dropped 4.05 obsoleted by upstream
11:45.46XorAmickeyl: trying to make some for you
11:45.55mickeylthanks
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11:47.30hrw|worklinux-2.6.5-gnalm1-gum0.patch - someone has it?
11:47.48koengumstix?
11:47.51hrw|workyep
11:48.16hrw|work2.6.5 so old and can be probably dropped but we lack gumstix people iirc
11:49.46hrw|workwrt54 support is something which can be dropped too
11:49.46mickeyli still hope that someone picks it up
11:49.47mickeyl(wrt, that is)
11:49.47mickeylyou don't think it'll happen?
11:50.25Ifaistosi am working on wrt, but nothing to release yet
11:50.38mickeylcool. still having a wrt54gs sitting here unused
11:51.13XorAmickeyl: check scap
11:51.28mickeylhh.org or ltg?
11:51.53XorAmickeyl: I guess hh.org as gpe-scap seems to still send there
11:51.59mickeyl*nod*
11:52.02mickeylhmm cool
11:52.43mickeylhow does it render on portrait displays?
11:53.33XorAhttp://handhelds.org/scap/port.17592.png
11:53.39CIA-403hrw 07org.oe.dev * rd4e12ca2... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): gbluezconf: dropped (19 11:30 < koen> hrw|work: gbluezconf can be dropped)
11:54.19mickeylXorA: thanks. looks like it needs a 'never-show-horz-scrollbar' mode
11:54.28mickeyl(thinking about the Neo)
11:54.38XorAmickeyl: I guessed
11:55.22XorAmickeyl: I guess you could proxy it through a html simplification service
11:56.08XorAmickeyl: BTW middle mouse is drag on links, so if you could make some interface coolness so clocking and dragging worked :-)
11:56.19XorAclicking
11:57.23mickeylya, since we don't have a scroll wheel or something we need to drag by clicking on free spaces
11:58.21hrw|workIfaistos: wrt-utils wrt-imagetools-native linux-wrt are good candidates to being dropped
11:59.04XorAdamn meeting time
11:59.25Ifaistoshrw|work : I have started working on wrt but stopped to get icecc working
11:59.28hrw|workok
11:59.46hrw|workIfaistos: those recipes fetch from cvs which does not exist
12:00.15Ifaistoshrw|work : yes and there are a few more things that need clearing up
12:02.02Ifaistoshrw|work : my task list at the moment is get icecc working (almost there) , port owmnr to task-base, find a way to sync our rep with OE, get our oplinux distro to task-base, work with wrt :)
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12:03.36hrw|workIfaistos: need help?
12:04.33Ifaistoshrw|work : lots of it :) in fact i am thinking of hiring some OE people if a couple of projects we discuss get through
12:07.33CIA-403hrw 07org.oe.dev * r5a54ff95... 10/ (8 files in 3 dirs):
12:07.33CIA-4portmap: unified, added 5-24, dropped 5-7
12:07.33CIA-4- portmap 5-7 was used before Debian 'sarge' - not fetchable
12:07.33CIA-4- portmap 5-24 will be in Debian 'etch' so will be fetchable for next 1-2 years
12:07.33CIA-4- portmap-unslung not updated - it has other packaging
12:08.58mickeylOT: upstart (new ubunut init) looks promising for embedded systems
12:09.49hrw|workmickeyl: it works quite good on my desktop
12:11.31Ifaistosany idea why my recent commit does not show up with CIA ?
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12:13.05koenmickeyl: how much trouble will it be to convert all our initscripts to upstart?
12:13.51CIA-403hrw 07org.oe.dev * rb1b91c6f... 10/ (1 packages/intercom/intercom_0.15.bb): intercom: fix SRC_URI
12:13.56mickeylnot much if I understood correctly
12:14.05mickeylone of the targets is compatibility
12:14.10mickeyls/targets/goals/
12:14.26mickeylbesides, we probably have to support more than just one init system in the future
12:14.32mickeylso we need to come up with an abstraction anyway
12:15.01hrw|workkoen: ipkg install upstart-sysv-compat?
12:15.09hrw|workIfaistos: cia is lagged
12:16.30koenIfaistos: check the commit mails
12:18.07Ifaistoskoen : last commit message i got was on the 15th. probably it has to do with the error you told me yesterday with the mail server
12:18.29koenah, right
12:18.37Ifaistoskoen : do you still see it ?
12:19.04CIA-403ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * r9bbebb75... 10/ (1 classes/icecc.bbclass):
12:19.04CIA-4Fixed error in the way the user specified exclusion lists were handled
12:19.04CIA-4Remove debug messages
12:24.13LaibschAny objections to committing http://oz.leggewie.org/atk.unify.patch, http://oz.leggewie.org/btsco.unify.patch and http://oz.leggewie.org/busybox.unify.patch
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12:36.00mickeyl:)
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12:36.57hrw|workhttp://www.amd.com/files/connectivitysolutions/geode/geode_lx/Graphics_Video4Linux2_LX_03.02.0100.tar.gz - some one have it?
12:37.22hrw|workI want to check does http://www.amd.com/files/connectivitysolutions/geode/geode_lx/Graphics_Video4Linux2_03.02.0100.tar.gz is same
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12:44.12florian_kchi all
12:44.15hrw|workhi florian
12:52.29Ifaistoskoen : building angstrom for efika fails at glibc -> powerpc-angstrom-linux/csu/crti.S:(.init+0x20): undefined reference to `i_am_not_a_leaf'
12:53.59Ifaistoskoen : i think i had the same on the dht and applied a patch of some sort
12:58.00Ifaistoskoen : found it. CFLAGS_dht-walnut += " -O1 -g0 -fPIC -fno-inline-functions -fno-unit-at-a-time "
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13:05.00koen_Ifaistos: it builds fine over here
13:07.43Ifaistoskoen : -> http://pastebin.ca/284917
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13:19.07hrw|workXorA|meeting: you used kismet iirc - 2004-*, 2005-01* are not available upstream - I want to drop them.
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13:31.31mickeylhttp://www.garmin.com/careers/jobs
13:31.40mickeyl!
13:31.41mickeyl:D
13:32.44blaster8https://my.garmin.com/iRecruitment/jobdetails.htm?vacancyId=265 ?
13:32.53mickeylyep
13:32.54mickeyl265 is it
13:32.59mickeylsounds like a great opportunity
13:33.03mickeylnot for me though
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13:35.03Crofton|homeug Kansas
13:35.44hrw|workmickeyl: forward to oe ml :D
13:36.46mickeyldone
13:38.12dan2003Any developments on sound on the c7x0 recently? Last tme i tried the new alsa support (back in august) the sound , tho it worked, was of terrible quality. There was lots of electrical noise present.
13:39.46XorAdan2003: that should be fixed now
13:40.01XorAhrw|work: drop all the old ones
13:40.05hrw|workok
13:40.09hrw|workfood
13:40.39koenmickeyl: bribe the garmin dude next fosdem :)
13:41.18mickeylyea
13:41.31mickeyli wonder if they would consider hiring contractors :D
13:43.55VoodooZmickeyl: yeah, I was looking at the syslog-ng stuff and then saw upstart which looks even more supported.
13:44.36VoodooZooops. I was looking at my logs so my reply is probably like 24 hours late :)
13:44.39VoodooZhehehe
13:45.08VoodooZI just want my darn boot to be shorter as it looks kind of bad for a robot to boot for 60secs!
13:45.39XorAVoodooZ: thats quicker than a female human :-)
13:45.44VoodooZhahaha
13:46.11VoodooZme too.
13:46.31VoodooZIt's going to be a bad day as I got a speeding ticket on my way to work! My first one ever!
13:46.38XorAVoodooZ: sucks
13:46.43VoodooZand then I spilled my water bottle everywhere.
13:46.46VoodooZWhat's next?
13:46.55VoodooZrm -rf /?
13:47.04XorAsomeone boot VoodooZ off the channel before his karma spreads
13:47.11VoodooZBut I'll try to stay positive.
13:47.13VoodooZ:)
13:47.47VoodooZanyone heard of someone getting opencv to compile under OE?
13:48.05VoodooZI can barely get a simple package to run so I'm afraid to try that beast
13:48.35VoodooZupstart is even more scary.
13:49.24koen"The library is compatible with IPL and utilizes Intel Integrated Performance Primitives for better performance."
13:49.25koenugh
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13:49.49koen"Programming Language : C++, Python, Visual Basic"
13:49.51koenmore ugh
13:49.53VoodooZyeah, that's another thing that would be nice to speedup my poor slug
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13:50.10VoodooZvisual basic? Not for the linux version right?
13:50.21koenVoodooZ: ever though about using a blackfin for you robot?
13:50.33VoodooZthere's so much choice
13:50.37koenyou can get those with a 750MHz dsp attached
13:51.10VoodooZI'd have to teach myself DSPs though.
13:51.10koenmickeyl: can we have a blackfin cpu next to the ARM in neo v2?
13:51.28VoodooZThat's the problem with fancy cutting edge hardware. by the time the software infrastructure supports it it's obsolete.
13:52.04VoodooZMy first criteria is availability and price. that's why I'm still using a slug. cheap and easy
13:52.13XorAkoen: give poor mickeyl time to finish the nea1 :-)
13:52.24VoodooZMy next project will use a portable as it's so much easier to get/setup.
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13:52.55VoodooZkoen: I thought the blackfin was rather slow though?
13:53.25koenVoodooZ: it is a limited arch, but anything is fast given enough mhz
13:53.30mickeylXorA *nod*
13:53.59mickeylkoen: psst.... Sean told me he has some exciting news for v2, but he won't tell us until v1 ships :/
13:54.38koenmickeyl: v2 has 6 spartan3 fpgas
13:54.51mickeylhehe
13:55.14VoodooZthe vision stuff kind of limits me to X86 processors though.
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13:55.30Croftonv2 of what?
13:55.41mickeylCrofton: the FIC Linux SmartPhone
13:56.09Croftonwill you need a generator for it?
13:56.47mickeylyes. like the older mobile phones where you had to carry a battery-bag with you
13:56.59Crofton:)
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14:01.13mickeylyo drw
14:01.17mickeylhow's life?
14:01.51drwpretty good, busy with work/holidays/etc.
14:02.05drwhow are you doing?
14:02.31mickeylpretty well, thanks. busy as well, but that seems to be normal these days ;)
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14:03.22drwyep, same here
14:06.59hrw|workmickeyl: it will get 3rd button? :D
14:07.21mickeylif you promise to be a good guy next year, we'll consider this
14:07.28mickeyli'll ask Santa Claus
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14:11.43hrw|work;D
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14:16.00koenrar?
14:16.15mickeylyeah, watch the next commits
14:16.15gerwininMickely , :) time to take make a coffee than
14:16.15koenwhat kind of hippy warez stuff did you download?
14:16.25mickeylheh
14:16.29mickeylnothing at all
14:16.37hrw|workkoen: linux-2.8.12.rar
14:17.32TheCanhrw|work, oh looks like with this goodie you can predict the future :)
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14:17.47koenmickeyl: I fixed a780.conf, at the cost of building ezx-kernels
14:18.32mickeylat the costß
14:18.33mickeyl?
14:19.44koenPREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel = "ezx-kernels" made it build all the kernels without a COMPATIBLE_MACHINE set
14:20.28hrw|workmickeyl: give sign when to pull
14:20.31koennow MACHINE=a780 only build linux-ezx for a780
14:20.59mickeylk
14:22.46gerwininKoen: I have put some images for x86 on my website
14:23.01gerwininKoen: I noticed that loading from dom goes much better than from cf
14:24.26hrw|workzigbee?
14:24.33koen802.15n iirc
14:25.22hrw|work14 December, 2006 -- BusyBox 1.3.0 (stable)  
14:25.48gerwininhrw: got some zigbee stuff laying arround here and I am making some stuff with it
14:26.01koen"This release has CONFIG_DESKTOP option which enables features needed for busybox usage on desktop machine. For example, find, chmod and chown get several less frequently used options, od is significantly bigger but matches GNU coreutils, etc. Intended to eventually make busybox a viable alternative for "standard" utilities for slightly adventurous desktop users."
14:28.07gerwininKoen: a lot of stuff in busybox segfaults with me
14:30.39koengerwinin: likewise pointed use to a gcc patch to fix things like that on x86
14:31.54CIA-403Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * ra0a2b808... 10/ (7 files in 2 dirs): atk: unify
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14:35.51XorA~lart pinkness and its mystical return
14:36.30koenXorA: the /etc/X11/Xdefault isn't working?
14:37.18XorAkoen: scrollbar has mysteriously turned pink, it wasnt pink a couple of days ago
14:39.28koenah, right
14:39.44koenXorA: someone hinted RGB(A) colour allocation is weird in diet-x11
14:40.12XorAkoen: libx11-6 - X11R7.1-1.0.1-r2
14:40.17XorAno diet
14:40.45koenare you sure?
14:41.00koendiet-x11 disguised itself as the same ipkg as full x11
14:41.32hrw|workQ
14:41.36hrw|workops
14:41.45gerwininKoen: cool
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14:42.48XorAkoen: erk, thats bad, how do you install full libx11 if diet is the same name
14:43.18hrw|workmtn: renaming packages/hvsc/hvsc_5.8.bb to packages/hvsc/hvsc_45.bb
14:43.24hrw|workmickeyl: that?
14:43.29CIA-403Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * ra0a2b808... 10/ (7 files in 2 dirs): atk: unify
14:43.32mickeylya
14:43.49hrw|worktime to mirror then
14:44.15hrw|workI need to check what was fetched.. 12G of stuff..
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14:45.08koenXorA: now you see why I removed libx11 from my OE repo
14:45.22koenXorA: to avoid accidentilly putting it in the feeds
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14:51.47hrw|workLength: 45,796,026 (44M) [text/plain]
14:53.40hrw|work06:51:34 (299.42 KB/s) - `/a/home/hrw/devel/build/celinux-test/tmp_sources/HVSC_45-all-of-them.rar' saved [45796026/45796026]
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14:55.14CIA-403Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * ra0a2b808... 10/ (7 files in 2 dirs): atk: unify
14:55.51hrw|workmickeyl: can you fix recipes which fetch from vanille.de?
14:57.25CIA-403Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * ra0a2b808... 10/ (7 files in 2 dirs): atk: unify
14:57.41LaibschCIA-4 seems to be in a repeat loop
14:57.45CIA-4ow
14:59.46mickeylare there many?
15:00.22hrw|work?
15:00.33mickeylrecipes which fetch from vanille.de
15:00.56mickeylhmm too many
15:01.11mickeylthey should still work
15:01.21mickeyli have added a redirector to http://linuxtogo.org/~mickeyl/mirror/
15:03.24hrw|workand they follow
15:03.30hrw|workand they got 404
15:03.47hrw|workhttp://www.openembedded.org/~hrw/screenlog.txt - check here
15:03.58hrw|workNOTE: fetch http://www.vanille.de/mirror/sip-4.4.5.tar.gz
15:04.04hrw|workNOTE: fetch http://www.Vanille.de/download/efl/efl++_0.1.0.tar.bz2
15:04.16hrw|workthose two for now
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15:11.16chouimatmorning
15:15.54florian_kckoen: gpe-scap 1.1 is released. it needs libsoup now... but netcat isn't necessary anymore
15:16.03florian_kchi chouimat
15:16.19hrw|workflorian_kc: we had netcat as part of busybox anyway
15:16.35hrw|workdoes someone built busybox with shared library?
15:16.59florian_kchrw|work: right... but if nothing else needs it we could just get rid of it.
15:17.47mickeylok, i'll keep that in mind
15:17.52CIA-403Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * ra0a2b808... 10/ (7 files in 2 dirs): atk: unify
15:20.00hrw|workchouimat: qtopia-core?
15:20.10chouimatno
15:20.18chouimatand it's 87MB
15:20.20hrw|workurl?
15:20.33chouimatftp.trolltech.com/qtopia/source
15:20.52chouimathttp://www.trolltech.com/company/newsroom/announcements/press.2006-12-19.3282791093
15:22.04hrw|workftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qtopia/source/qtopia-opensource-src-4.2.0.tar.gz
15:22.18hrw|worktime to fetch before tt will decide to not gpl it
15:22.32hrw|work;d
15:22.46chouimathomme de peu de foi
15:23.23hrw|workchouimat: skoro tak mówisz
15:23.54Mavez-Sandoes the 2.6 kernel on spitz support like ext3 n stuff
15:24.00Mavez-Sani want to format my sd card
15:24.15XorAMavez-San: rootfs on spitz is ext3
15:24.20Mavez-Sanwith ahh ok
15:24.26Mavez-Sancool
15:26.01mickeylhrw|work: will you add qtopia ?
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15:28.25LaibschMavez-San: Are you interested in Japanese by chance?
15:28.37hrw|workmickeyl: first have to fetch, compile and look
15:28.42Mavez-SanLaibsch i watch alot of anime
15:28.44Mavez-San;)
15:28.45Mavez-Sanheh
15:28.52Croftonneed to start mirroring the tarball :)
15:29.13hrw|workCrofton: torrenting
15:29.17Laibschah, manga-zoku.
15:29.34Mavez-San^_^
15:30.01LaibschMavez-San: I try to strengthen the Japanese side of things in OE.  Help is always welcome as is general discussion.
15:30.11Mavez-Sancool
15:30.17chouimatmickeyl: 87MB for qtopia + 56.38MB for qtopia-core ... will be fun on a dialup :)
15:30.37LaibschMavez-San: Maybe http://gakusei.sf.net would be interesting for you despite the sorry state wrt looks.
15:30.38mickeylchouimat: looks to me like you don't need qtopia-core
15:30.42mickeylseems to be included
15:30.48mickeylthe configure script is hell :D
15:30.49Mavez-Sanlet me take a look
15:30.52mickeylthousands of options
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15:31.03hrw|workmickeyl: like usual
15:31.16hrw|workfew MB to go..
15:31.36hrw|workfetched
15:31.45chouimatmickeyl: it might explain why it's so huge
15:32.00mickeylya
15:32.26hrw|worko.. they use dejavu fonts
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15:39.12hrw|workhmm..
15:39.19hrw|work<PROTECTED>
15:39.37hrw|workand alsa support..
15:42.01chouimathmmm helix support
15:42.29mickeylhmm
15:42.34mickeyldon't enable -voip
15:42.38mickeyldoesn't build with it
15:42.48mickeylProject ERROR: Could not find directory tools/sipagent
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15:48.02Ifaistoshow compiling OE in 6 machines looks like -> http://pastebin.ca/285042
15:49.37mickeylcoolness
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15:52.45hrw|work.Project ERROR: Could not find directory libraries/qtopiatest/qtesttools/host in any of the project roots
15:54.52mickeylhmm
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15:55.26mickeylis there any README stating dependencies which we may miss?
15:56.17chouimatqtopia-opensource-4.2.0/doc/html/qtopia-dependencies.html
15:56.32mickeylaah
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15:56.53Mavez-Sansweet SD card works
15:57.38koenflorian_kc: don't forget to update removal.txt
16:03.51CIA-403Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * ra0a2b808... 10/ (7 files in 2 dirs): atk: unify
16:05.23hrw|workProject ERROR: Could not find directory libraries/qtopiatest/qtesttools/host in any of the project roots
16:05.29hrw|work~lart qtopia
16:06.05chouimathmmm I think I will forget helix for now
16:10.12CIA-403Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * rf9c74af4... 10/ (7 files in 2 dirs): btsco: unify
16:10.29LaibschOh, we got one step further ;-)
16:11.44hrw|work;P
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16:16.08hrw|workQtopia has been configured. You can build Qtopia by running make.
16:16.11hrw|workfinally
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16:16.57CIA-403Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r1df6d041... 10/ (7 files in 2 dirs): busybox: unify
16:17.06Laibschoh, and the last one.
16:17.32LaibschIfaistos: Did you get my response to your PM?
16:17.49IfaistosLaibsch : nop
16:18.42LaibschI just resent it to ifaistos.
16:19.26LaibschIfaistos: got it now?
16:19.36IfaistosLaibsch : no.
16:19.52VoodooZAnybody know if the OLPC are going to be available to common mortals for hacking?
16:19.58LaibschIfaistos: you need to check your irc client.  something is broken
16:20.01VoodooZlooks like a decent processor
16:20.21XorALaibsch: have you registered your nick?
16:20.29LaibschIfaistos: I can read your stuff.  Can you read mine?
16:20.32LaibschXorA: yes
16:20.54IfaistosLaibsch : no. strange
16:21.32IfaistosLaibsch : can u pm anybody else in the channel ?
16:22.04Crofton_VoodooZ, talk to CosmicPenguin
16:22.18CIA-403koen 07org.oe.dev * r1b9b5e29... 10/ (1 conf/machine/a780.conf): a780: unbreak kernel selection
16:22.21LaibschIfaistos: I successfully did so a few times in the past.  I don't think this is my fault ;-)
16:22.25CosmicPenguineh?
16:22.28hrw|workCrofton_: will ossie stuff get tarballs release?
16:22.37Crofton_eventually
16:22.38hrw|workCosmicPenguin: geode_lx is yours?
16:23.15Crofton_VoodooZ, was asking if OLPC would be avilable for hacking
16:24.53CosmicPenguinhrw|work: It might have been Ray's, but I guess I inherited it
16:25.32CosmicPenguinVoodooZ: The OLPC is currently only available for the core developers - you can apply to get one if you think you can contribute something back
16:25.42hrw|workCosmicPenguin: videodrivers has fetch error
16:25.54CosmicPenguinwhats the url?
16:25.58hrw|work19 13:38 < hrw|work> http://www.amd.com/files/connectivitysolutions/geode/geode_lx/Graphics_Video4Linux2_LX_03.02.0100.tar.gz - some one have it?
16:26.01hrw|work19 13:38 < hrw|work> I want to check does http://www.amd.com/files/connectivitysolutions/geode/geode_lx/Graphics_Video4Linux2_03.02.0100.tar.gz is same
16:26.03IfaistosLaibsch : write here
16:26.05CosmicPenguinew
16:26.09hrw|workCosmicPenguin: that ones
16:26.10CosmicPenguinew
16:26.14XorAroot
16:26.32CosmicPenguindoes OE even build 6.8 any more?
16:26.48CIA-403mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r81edd71f... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): add unrar, a decompression utility for the RAR archive format
16:27.00hrw|workCosmicPenguin: I do not know - I fetch everything
16:27.10CosmicPenguinhrw|work: git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/xorg/driver/xf86-video-amd <-- thats where the 7.1+ driver lives
16:27.17CosmicPenguinhrw|work: I say, get rid of the old stuff
16:27.20hrw|workCosmicPenguin: and my fetch script does not care what it is and what for
16:27.43hrw|workCosmicPenguin: so I can drop it?
16:28.47CosmicPenguinhrw|work: hmmm - strange, that URL is valid
16:28.57CosmicPenguinhrw|work: but yeah - i say drop it
16:29.04hrw|workCosmicPenguin: 2nd is valid, first not
16:29.42VoodooZCosmicPenguin: thanks. I was just wondering as the specs looked much better than I anticipated.
16:29.55CosmicPenguinVoodooZ: I think you would be disappointed
16:30.04VoodooZreally? why?
16:30.26VoodooZNot If the price is right
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16:30.41CIA-403mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r863cf849... 10/ (1 packages/hvsc/hvsc_5.8.bb packages/hvsc/hvsc_45.bb): hvsc 5.8: update to v45. TODO: split package up... 63MB might be a bit too heavy for some devices *cough*
16:30.59VoodooZI think It would make a perfect robot controller
16:31.02CosmicPenguinhrw|work: I can't figure out the difference between the working URL and not - too little coffee
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16:31.08CosmicPenguinThere are better Geode solutions for that
16:31.22VoodooZmaybe not the fastest but a nice package overall.
16:31.24CosmicPenguinThe OLPC is not a very good general purpose hacking platform
16:31.37CosmicPenguinhrw|work: http://www.amd.com/files/connectivitysolutions/geode/geode_lx/Graphics_Video4Linux2_03.02.0100.tar.gz
16:31.42CosmicPenguinThat URL works and is correct, use that
16:31.48hrw|workCosmicPenguin: just dropped
16:31.50CosmicPenguinI'll post a new .bb for the GIT driver at some point
16:32.01VoodooZif you had to recommend an x86 Offthe shelf ITX/nano board which would you recommend?
16:33.12VoodooZI'm not sure which of all those C3, Geode, etc.. to choose. I don't care much for the media stuff unless I can use to do vision stuff
16:33.17CosmicPenguinVoodooZ: there are numerous Geode solutions available
16:33.39CIA-403hrw 07org.oe.dev * r7ab404ab... 10/ (16 files in 8 dirs): kismet: dropped 2004-04-R1, 2005-01-R1 (dropped upstream)
16:34.17LaibschIfaistos: Here is my answer to the message you sent me.
16:34.17CosmicPenguinVoodooZ: http://www.wdlsystems.com/modperl/view_services.cgi?r=detail&prod_num=1LHURLE&aisle_id=807
16:34.27LaibschIfaistos: Hi, I read about it in #oe. I had pinged you a couple of times. Thing is that the stuff before that did not appear to create any problems, but I also never saw any effect. For example, icemon tells me that 192.168.1.10 is running the scheduler (as it should).
16:34.30CosmicPenguinfore xample - thats built for industrial control
16:34.31LaibschIfaistos: But I never see any nodes in icemon. So I guess something more general is broken with icecc here.  Something that has nothing to do with OE.  I am not sure I can fix it.
16:35.13IfaistosLaibsch : icemon does not work with recent versions of icecc. the protocol has changed
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16:35.29CIA-403florian 07org.oe.dev * r6e1343f1... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): removal: Drop gpe-mileage and nsqld.
16:35.57VoodooZnice but expensive.
16:36.00IfaistosLaibsch : add to the scheduler  -vvv and check the log output
16:36.08LaibschIfaistos: OK
16:36.22CIA-403hrw 07org.oe.dev * rc4e8134b... 10/ (1 packages/geode-drivers/geode-v4l2lx_2.6.11.bb): geode-v4l2lx: dropped. xorg 7.1+ driver is in git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/xorg/driver/xf86-video-amd
16:36.25VoodooZThat's why I like the slug as it's mass produces so dirt cheap. the ones designed for developers tend to be overpriced.
16:36.29CIA-403florian 07org.oe.dev * r31db2946... 10/ (1 removal.txt): removal.txt: Update
16:36.44VoodooZPerhaps I'll end up picking one of those via nanoitx ones.
16:40.14hrw|workcu
16:40.23Laibschlater hrw|gone
16:41.24IfaistosLaibsch : you should see somehting like that for logs -> http://pastebin.ca/285101
16:42.50psokolovskyRP: Hi!
16:43.57LaibschIfaistos: I think /etc/init.d/icecc does have the -vvv but it appears that only iceccd and not the scheduler picks it up: http://pastebin.ca/285104  Is that right?
16:43.58psokolovskyRP: One question, I wanted to ask you during previous hx4700 lcd driver discussion, but didn't dare. Well, time has come ;-). So, why Zaurus doesn't use LCD classdev?
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16:46.23LaibschIfaistos: log seems to be working now.
16:47.43radugahi oe'ers :)
16:48.12IfaistosLaibsch : good :). You should get an output like that once icecc kicks in -> http://pastebin.ca/285101
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17:16.51mickeylyo zecke
17:16.56mickeylqtopia 4.2.2 is out
17:17.02mickeyl4.2.0, even
17:17.09chouimatstill compiling
17:17.16mickeylcompile finished
17:17.18mickeyldoesn't run here
17:17.20mickeylheh
17:17.48zeckehey
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17:18.10chouimatmickeyl: I tried to get the helix support ... and gave up ... the instruction are not good enough
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17:19.36mickeylhmm is the git binary on debian no longer named git?
17:19.50zeckemickeyl: update-alternatives first
17:19.57mickeyloh
17:20.34CIA-403mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r13bb4c8b... 10/ (7 files in 3 dirs): git: fix case of the disappearing snapshots by adding a stable release
17:21.26mickeylyay, that worked. thanks zecke
17:21.29zeckemickeyl: git was a name of a GNU program...
17:21.36zeckeGNU interactive 't'?
17:21.39koenGNU interactive tools
17:22.43zeckehmm time to implement the telephony stubs...
17:22.44koenmickeyl: did you fix git as well?
17:23.02mickeylgit-non-native?
17:23.04koenmickeyl: git (on the target) expects to find stuff in ${S}
17:23.19mickeyldunno, i only built it. didn't try the cross version
17:23.51mickeylsounds like a task for sed?
17:24.10koenfor everything is a task for sed :)
17:24.17koenbut it's perl
17:24.26koenperl, like m4, makes my eyes bleed
17:25.45zecke87MB of sourcecode, because Qtopia dev's are too stupid to download three separate tarballs?
17:26.03koenzecke: or use upstream code?
17:26.08koenlike jpeg, png, zlib, etc
17:26.23chouimatzecke: core is included
17:26.50zeckekoen: no the 'size'/weight smells like Qt4 desktop, QtopiaCore4, Qtopia4 in onetar
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17:28.28LaibschIfaistos: Can you make anything out of http://rafb.net/paste/results/AQkeKv11.html ?  The jobs are running on the scheduler machine only.
17:28.47chouimatdbus amr    dbus        gsm    inputmatch     libtimidity  openobex  qtdbus    tar alsa      bluez  dissipate2  helix md5          openssl   qtopiail  zlib codecs  inputmethodsatd  sdptool <---- from 3rdparty  
17:28.52chouimatzecke: ^^^^
17:29.49zeckeoh
17:30.32chouimatzecke: helix is just the qtopia-integration stuff ... wasn't able to get it working yet
17:34.14koenehm
17:34.16koenopenssl?
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17:34.28koenisn't take illegal to link against gpl?
17:34.37sirfredHello
17:34.44zeckesure it is
17:34.44koenhey sirfred
17:35.10zeckeand they started linking to it with Qtopia2.2 where not using GNU TLS was considered a crime against humanity already
17:35.22LaibschIfaistos: Going by http://en.opensuse.org/Icecream I would need port 10245 open but it is not.  I do not have a firewall running.
17:35.46koenLaibsch: if you don't have a firewall, it should be already open
17:36.11chouimatzecke: does gnu tls still sucks?
17:36.29zeckeno, as of last year it is usable...
17:36.45zeckeso Trolltech should be killed by forcing customers to print
17:36.57chouimatzecke: k
17:37.02zeckeThis Software uses Software created by Eric Young in their books and other material...
17:37.02LaibschIfaistos: Furthermore, after adding an explicit entry about the host machine running the scheduler there seems to be some (unsuccessful) communication, I get tons of entries like http://rafb.net/paste/results/F5IEvI16.html in the scheduler log.
17:37.16Laibschkoen: That is of course nonsense.  Unused ports aren't open.
17:37.51Laibschkoen: the inference "detection of closed port" -> "FW running" is just not true.
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17:39.37LaibschI believe this is a mismatch in the icecc package between edgy and dapper: 0.7.14-3 vs. 0.6svn20060501-0ubuntu2
17:39.44zeckekoen: Proprietary code can link to OpenSSL. You only need to comply with the OpenSSL license and advertise
17:39.57zeckekoen: worse with BlueZ which is GPL and Trolltech links against it
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17:41.21koenzecke: I'll refrain from making comments
17:42.03zeckeouch they even messed up with bluez
17:42.06gielthe question is, does dynamically linking against something make it a derived work
17:42.27zeckeThey don't link to it. So avoid direct GPL violation
17:42.47zeckebut patch old bluez to work with Qtopia => see MySQL AB cases about that...
17:42.53gieldynamic linking is done during runtime, so actually the user does the linking
17:43.01zeckegiel: in KDE 'we' argue dlopening openssl is 'fine'
17:43.11gielzecke: i tend to agree with that
17:43.31zeckegiel: now where is the case from dlopen to SO_NEEDED?
17:43.35gielzecke: but this is at the moment also (again!) a hot topic on LKML
17:43.38zeckegiel: none and I tend to agree with the FSF here
17:44.02zeckegiel: but patching GPL sourcecode to work with proprietary lib is fishy!
17:44.09gielzecke: that's for sure
17:44.16zeckegiel: if it would be legal they would link to the lib directly
17:44.49gielheh, actually, i don't want to talk about it now either ;)
17:45.02Ifaistoslaibsch : Yes the versions between edgy and dapper are not compatible
17:45.30LaibschIfaistos: Do you know about a backport to dapper?
17:45.38Ifaistoslaibsch : That's what you see in the second log you posted
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17:47.04Ifaistoslaibsch : As for the first log, it looks like jobs get distributes but since there is only one machine (the scheduler) it gets them. Also i have noticed that if the load of the scheduler is not high icecc prefers to send jobs to it than to remote machines
17:48.13Ifaistoslaibsch : no i am not aware of any backports of icecc. Either update to edgy (this is what i did) or get the svn sources and compile them
17:48.32zeckemickeyl: They have a EZX PhoneStyle included...
17:48.52LaibschI will eventually update to edgy.  But this is my work machine so I have to do it in a controlled fashion.
17:49.00LaibschLet's see if I can compile it.
17:49.13mickeylzecke: really? funny :)
17:49.51zeckemickeyl: for some reasons it is #if 0
17:50.20mickeylzecke: if it runs for you, please do some screenies
17:50.21ljpyou can see it by setting int he server wigets setting app
17:50.34chouimathi ljp
17:50.40ljphello
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17:51.40zeckemickey|sports: no clean namespacing in Qtopia4
17:52.35Ifaistoslaibsch : Did you update the icecc.bbclass ? It looks like you are running the older version, not the one i check in today
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17:54.58IfaistosDoes anyone know what's the latest linux-headers that can be used with uclibc-initial_0.9.28 ?
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17:55.32LaibschIfaistos: I still run the older version until I get the more general icecc issues sorted out.
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18:03.30zecketopia-opensource-4.2.0 ich$ grep -rn FIXME src/* | wc -l 99
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18:07.53ljpzecke there is still also some porting comments as well
18:09.26zeckeXXX results in 248
18:09.50sirfredQtopia have been opensourced completely?
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18:10.01zeckesirfred: no
18:10.09ljpftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qtopia/source/qtopia-opensource-src-4.2.0.tar.gz
18:10.24sirfredzecke: What's missing?
18:10.27sirfredljp: Thanks
18:10.28zeckesirfred: lacks complete Phone stuff and other stuff as well
18:10.35ljpeverything except sxe, drm and telephony
18:11.57sirfredNow that I've started to play with X...
18:13.57XorAhey sirfred
18:14.01sirfredXorA: Hello.
18:15.09sirfredljp: Last time i took a look at qtopia-core sources, I missed some examples that used to be for gfxdrivers, one for mach64, other for voodoo, IIRC, ... Is there any hardware acceleration support in the qtopia-core opensource version?
18:15.11chouimatljp: nice
18:15.58ljpsame as what is in qtopia core
18:16.14ljpermm... that didnt make sense
18:16.37zeckelater
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18:19.30CIA-403pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r68550c89... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-handhelds-2.6-2.6.16/hx4700/defconfig):
18:19.30CIA-4linux-handhelds-2.6 2.6.16: hx4700 defconfig: have ext2 builtin, so it can
18:19.30CIA-4boot from a memory card.
18:19.35CIA-403pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rbfdb21ec... 10/ (1 packages/xserver-common/xserver-common_1.13.bb):
18:19.35CIA-4xserver-common: Add 1.13.
18:19.35CIA-4* All pending OE patches were accepted.
18:19.35CIA-4* So far, DEFAULT_PREFERENCE=-1.
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18:30.20chouimatljp: so far qtopia look nice ... but the qvfb skins are a little bit hard to use with a 3200x1200 screen :)
18:31.55ljpso get binoculars
18:32.03chouimathehe
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18:33.43psokolovskykoen, Everything is ready to upgrade Angstrom to linux-handhelds-2.6_2.6.16-hh8: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1701
18:41.13koenpsokolovsky: read my reply to your mail :)
18:41.22koenIOW:
18:41.25koenpush it!
18:41.38psokolovskykoen, thanks ;-)
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18:42.13koenI think we can follow the rule "a week of silence is complete approval"
18:42.48psokolovskykoen, I hope so ;-)
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18:48.35CIA-403pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r2615762a... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf):
18:48.35CIA-4angstrom-2007.1: Upgrade linux-handhelds-2.6 to 2.6.16-hh8.
18:48.35CIA-4* Prerequisite, xserver-common 1.13, was made a default version in previous
18:48.35CIA-4commit. (-hh8 standardizes an makes consistent application buttons keycodes
18:48.36CIA-4used by different HH.org ports).
18:49.16XorAI object, those scummy Ipaqs dont deserve real code :-)
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18:51.28psokolovskyXorA, lol. you hint something about bricky zauri which are no longer pdas and not yet notebooks? ;-)
18:52.19koenXorA: they deserve win32 codecs!
18:55.20koen*cough*
18:55.26koenzauri or zaurusses
18:55.35koenlatin is too dead to get raped
18:55.38ljpheh.. you should see my desk
18:55.59XorAkoen: in true latin Zaurus would probably be plural anyway
18:56.25ljpyes, but zaurus is japanese
18:56.35ljpso latinisms dont apply
18:56.43XorAZaurus ^ X
18:56.53koenXorA: yeah, 3rd declination and all
18:57.20koenone japanese, two japanii
18:58.12psokolovskyhey guys, that plural was sarcastic, of course ;-)
18:58.32koenXorA: it all makes sense
18:58.37koenXorA: one wus, two wii
18:59.12XorAkoen: I still wait for the special Golden Wii
18:59.18NAiLuuuuuh
19:06.59koenXorA: is that a side effect of irn bru?
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20:20.06koensomeone at the university is saying "D'oh" right now
20:20.29koenmost likely the same person that disconnected the uni from the rest of the world
20:20.54psokolovsky_koen, do you have plans to provide another Angstrom build before holidays? ;-)
20:21.06koenanyone can do that
20:21.47psokolovsky_koen, I mean, official, at http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/
20:21.57koenif I get time
20:22.04koenand access to the build box again
20:22.06psokolovsky_heh, I see 20061219 there ;-)
20:22.21psokolovsky_if it only picked up recent changes ;-)
20:22.26psokolovsky_koen, ok, thanks!
20:22.41koenroot@h2200:~# uptime
20:22.41koen<PROTECTED>
20:30.54koenpsokolovsky_: install 'old' image -> ipkg update ; ipkg upgrade
20:31.46psokolovsky_koen, well, I want to do some PR on local forums among dumb users, so that won't work ;-)
20:32.46koeneducate them
20:33.17psokolovsky_koen, first need to show them something (like working buttons) ;-)
20:33.27koenI can foresee >8 months between releases, but regular bugfixes via package feeds
20:33.57psokolovsky_koen, btw, is angstrom still 2007.1 or 2007.3 now?
20:34.04koen3
20:34.15psokolovsky_ok
20:34.22koenmickey|sports and I will do some release talk during fosdem
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20:34.43psokolovsky_I see, nice.
20:35.32psokolovsky_I just saw that popup baloons (like "Settings saved") are now normal size, not full-screen. So, things improve ;-)
20:35.56psokolovsky_I'd still say that gtk2.10 themes look low-contrast on PDA ;-(
20:36.24koenstill theme same theme engine
20:37.16psokolovsky_koen, weird. I probably too conservative then ;-E. 2.6 looked better
20:37.42koenit's the same theme engine, so there's no perceptual difference between gtk-theme-clearlooks on 2.6 and 2.10
20:38.22psokolovsky_ok, will need to boot both versions to convince my persception ;-)
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20:49.57koenmickey|sports: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2006-November/msg00125.html
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20:56.21do13morning all
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20:57.54do13hey hrw|gone, koen*
20:58.01koen_hey Dirk
21:19.06chouimathttp://thedailywtf.com/forums/thread/107695.aspx
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21:22.57greentux_altgd evening
21:24.21koenhey greentux_alt
21:24.57greentux_altjust i noticed ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qtopia/source/qtopia-opensource-src-4.2.0.tar.gz
21:25.11greentux_altxmas time...
21:26.54woglindeoehm
21:26.55woglindehm
21:27.07woglindeand zecke is on christmas party
21:27.57chouimatspeaking of xmas party ... later
21:28.54greentux_altwoglinde: I am not the qtopia freak to say "yeahh thats it" or "sh...t code, useless"...
21:30.10hrwhi
21:30.12hrwlinking /home/hrw/Desktop/downloady/qtopia-opensource-4.2.0/lib/libqtdbus.so.4.2.0
21:30.12hrw/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lqtopiabase
21:30.13Croftonhrw, I updated the OSK images on the celinux wiki
21:30.16woglindetr htw
21:30.18woglindere
21:30.20woglindehrw
21:30.21woglindehms
21:30.28chouimat|awaygreentux_alt: at least I will have a lot less #define in my code :)
21:30.44CroftonI checked my log and people actually downloaded them
21:30.58chouimat|awayhrw: compiled fine here ... didn't tried with dbus yet
21:30.59hrwcool
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21:31.09Croftonand I became afraid they suffered from the dropbear/OABI problem
21:31.25hrwchouimat|away: I'm not suprised with such problems
21:31.38CroftonI added a credit for OE also
21:31.39hrwchouimat|away: I did build of qtopia 2.2 months ago
21:32.25hrwand I 'love' tt buildsystem...
21:32.46chouimat|awayhrw: didn't managed to get the helix support yet ... spent the afternoon buy xmas gifts ... and porting a small app to 4.2 ... removed an assload of #ifdef qt2 :)
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21:34.21chouimat|awayhrw: so I think this app will be qt4/qtopia4/kde4 around xmas time ...
21:35.25hrwfscking xmas
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21:35.39hrweach fscking shop play fscking american xmas songs
21:35.53hrwideal time for xmas buying
21:36.24chouimat|awayhrw: yup ... will cost me around 200CAD to go see my family for 3 days ... (and 6 hours trip (around 550km))
21:36.31hrwand now I have to fill 4 page long tax form because win32 app which I use for taxes can not count my tax...
21:36.41hrw~change 200 cad to pln
21:36.47hrwchouimat|away: ONLY 6h?
21:36.56hrwchouimat|away: 9h in one way for me
21:37.30greentux_alt3h for me... :)
21:37.55chouimat|awayhrw: one way ... in bus I asked my father to come get me in quebec city (about 100km) because the last part is the milk run (3 hours to do 100km) instead of 1 in car :)
21:38.20hrwcu
21:38.21hrwafk
21:38.35chouimat|awayanyway time for me to go get drunk (a little bit)
21:38.40hrw~lart taxes, lack of tax apps for linux
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21:43.51Ifaistosnight everyone
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21:59.46hrwI wonder when we will get a day when qtopia will just build
21:59.58ljpbuilds for me
22:00.04Croftonrofl
22:00.15hrwlinking /home/hrw/Desktop/downloady/qtopia-opensource-4.2.0/lib/libqtdbus.so.4.2.0
22:00.15hrw/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lqtopiabase
22:00.15hrwcollect2: ld returned 1 exit status
22:00.17Croftonbecause you have all the dependencies :)
22:00.26hrwljp: looks like does not like dbus
22:00.36ljphmmm
22:00.48hrwljp: qtopia4 use parallel make but does not have depends
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22:02.35ljpwe use a large teambuilder farm just fine. make -j1 also works
22:04.18hrwljp: I used 'make' without -j
22:04.46hrwhrw: normally it is same as 'make -j1'
22:05.13hrw'make -j1' fails in same way.. do I have to clean, reconfigure, make again?
22:06.05ljprunning configure will clean
22:06.07hrwljp: btw - any plans for splitted downloads or not?
22:06.15hrwljp: I forgot which options used ;(
22:06.33hrw'make clean' started
22:06.45ljponly one package since qtopiacore is tied to which version
22:07.10hrwalso hacked 3rdparty tied?
22:07.26hrwok. make clean;make -j1 started
22:07.48hrwwill see tomorrow how it will result (1.4GHz athlon is slow machine today)
22:10.08hrwbut I do not request support - TT will respond with 'we do not support gcc 4.1.1/debian, please use good old 3.4' or sth like that
22:11.05ljpgreenphone is compiled with 4.1.1
22:11.20ljpso ner
22:11.33hrwljp: qtopia4 doc does not even mention 4.1.1 - last 'experimental one is 4.1.0
22:14.43ljplook at devices/greenphone/environment it mentions 4.1.1
22:15.09hrwwill later - now its 23:16 here
22:16.10mickey|sports*yawn*
22:16.18mickey|sportscongrats ljp
22:16.23mickey|sports_finally_ :D
22:16.40ljpthanks. ya, tell me about it
22:16.45mickey|sportshehe
22:17.30ljpnow if linuxtogo would fix svn db permissions so my import would succeed
22:17.41mickey|sportspester florian
22:17.54hrwand then we can start changing buildsystem etc?
22:17.54mickey|sportshrw: sip 4.4.5 is now @ vanille
22:17.56ljpi wil :)
22:18.06hrwmickey|sports: gracias
22:18.07mickey|sportshrw: efl+ 0.1.0 will be removed
22:18.09mickey|sportsnp
22:18.51hrwljp: I like an amount of warnings which qtopia core give - nearly null
22:19.04hrw../../include/QtCore/../../../qt/src/corelib/kernel/qobject.h:370: warning: type-punning to incomplete type might break strict-aliasing rules
22:19.11hrwmostly such things
22:19.47CIA-403mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r2cb095a3... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): efl++: remove 0.1.0 version (no longer fetchable)
22:21.13ljpthats qt. talk to Oslo :)
22:24.25hrwljp: my qtopia4 build stopped before qtopia
22:24.55ljphmm
22:25.22hrwnow builds qtopiacore/gui
22:25.53ljpopieII will have a zaurusclamshell device configuration
22:26.04hrw19M archive: http://www.openembedded.org/~hrw/arch.tar.bz2 - Angstrom i686 chroot
22:26.15hrw*self hosted* OE builds
22:26.57koenall thanks to mickey|sports's effort to unify the distros
22:26.59ljphrw: if you want to run qtopia on 16 bit display device before i get opieII commited, I have a patch that did not make it into 4.2.0 release
22:27.19hrwljp: I want to run it on my x86 box in qvfb first
22:28.00mickey|sportskoen ;)
22:28.44hrwljp: my main toy lack good fb support
22:28.44ljpodd
22:28.59ljpso port qvfb :)
22:29.01hrwljp: its Progear webpad
22:29.13hrwljp: or port qtopia4 to qt4/x11
22:29.19ljpgood luck
22:29.44ljpi will try pushing that qt qtopia summit in january
22:31.11hrw?
22:31.24hrwqt3support is building now..
22:32.05hrwI wonder will someone write qt2support for qtopia 1.x/2.x apps ;D
22:32.50ljpqtopia doesnt use qt3support. thats for desktop tools
22:33.34ljpif you do want to change opieII build system, please make it not compile desktop tools for cross builds
22:35.01hrwljp: plans are: build it, build it working more on less on x86/qvfb, try to use normal stuff instead of qtopia/3rdparty etc
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