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07:17.55 | Ifaistos | morning all |
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07:19.18 | arm-bar | hello\ |
07:19.25 | arm-bar | <PROTECTED> |
07:20.34 | NAbyss | arm-bar: OPIE? |
07:21.46 | arm-bar | no; gpe on e17 |
07:21.53 | NAbyss | No idea. |
07:21.54 | arm-bar | or e17 on gpe |
07:22.03 | NAbyss | Use the xrandr tools? |
07:23.02 | arm-bar | thanks |
07:24.36 | arm-bar | that will do but is there a way to turn off the rotation? |
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07:27.33 | NAbyss | arm-bar: No idea, don't use e17 here |
07:27.46 | NAbyss | arm-bar: A hack would be to remove the xrandr extension from the x11 conf |
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07:45.06 | arm-bar | Thanks NAbyss |
07:45.14 | NAbyss | Did it work? |
07:47.07 | arm-bar | naw. I am chicken when it comes to messing with things like X. |
07:48.15 | arm-bar | I will just call xrandr tools before I play my avi untill OI can get back into the forums to search for a more permanate solution. |
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08:12.08 | vlo | good morning all |
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08:16.08 | Ifaistos | vlo : hi |
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08:35.36 | CIA-4 | 03ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * r6d4012f0... 10/ (1 classes/icecc.bbclass): |
08:35.36 | CIA-4 | Updated icecc.bbclass |
08:35.36 | CIA-4 | Handles native/cross cross-kernel and target compile jobs |
08:35.36 | CIA-4 | Accepts user supplied package and class exclusion lists |
08:35.55 | CIA-4 | 03ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * r6e6bbf55... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): icecc-create-env.bb to fetch script required by icecc.bbclass |
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08:42.28 | vlo | hum ... I have glibc problems again |
08:44.30 | vlo | http://pastebin.ca/284787 I had the same problem last week, one update got me out of it. I made a new update yesterday and now the glibc problem is here again ... |
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08:46.47 | XorA | morning |
08:50.09 | Ifaistos | XorA : hi ! |
08:52.13 | vlo | hum, I sometimes have a message which looks like NOTE: preferred version 2.5 of glibc not available ... could this be related to my problem ? |
08:52.23 | XorA | vlo: that is normal |
08:52.24 | vlo | hey XorA |
08:54.14 | koen | hey XorA |
08:54.26 | XorA | hey koen |
08:55.01 | XorA | vlo: maybe you should nick a Angstrom tarball and try and run that on your system |
08:55.09 | XorA | vlo: that will rule out kernel fault |
08:55.14 | Ifaistos | koen : morning |
08:55.23 | koen | hey Ifaistos |
08:56.45 | vlo | XorA: yes that's a good idea, I will try this |
08:56.54 | vlo | morning koen |
08:57.03 | koen | hey vlo |
08:58.21 | koen | hrw|gone: updated binutils is in the feeds now |
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08:59.00 | zecke | hi |
08:59.09 | koen | guten Morgen herr Freyther |
08:59.55 | zecke | guten tag sehr geehrter kollege |
09:01.26 | Ifaistos | I am having trouble when i try to specify a DEPENDS=icecc-create-env in icecc.bbclass |
09:01.58 | Ifaistos | this package should just download and unpack/install a script in staging/ice/ |
09:02.15 | Ifaistos | i am getting the following error |
09:02.25 | Ifaistos | http://pastebin.ca/284793 |
09:02.58 | Ifaistos | it seems like a circular dependancy of some short |
09:03.05 | zecke | looks like it |
09:03.27 | Ifaistos | zecke : hi |
09:05.07 | Ifaistos | any idea how to solve this ? |
09:06.34 | XorA | Ifaistos: dont do the DEPENDS+= when building icecc-create-env |
09:06.57 | koen | Ifaistos: did icce-create-env do 'inherit native'? |
09:07.07 | Ifaistos | koen : yes |
09:07.08 | koen | and INHIBIT_DEFAULT_DEPS? |
09:07.11 | Ifaistos | koen : yes |
09:07.13 | zecke | Ifaistos: do you add icecc to DEPENDS from your icecc.bbclass? |
09:07.31 | zecke | Ifaistos: and you inherit autotools? |
09:07.52 | hrw|work | morgen |
09:08.19 | Ifaistos | i have pushed both the new icecc.bbclass and icecc-create.env.bb to the rep minutes ago |
09:08.42 | Ifaistos | zecke : no just icecc-create-env |
09:08.42 | zecke | Ifaistos: need to hack on minix atm, but don't create circular deps :) |
09:08.49 | koen | hrw|work: Dzień dobry |
09:09.02 | Ifaistos | hrw|work : morning |
09:09.02 | XorA | yo hrw|work |
09:09.25 | hrw|work | koen: looks like I will drop that arpwatch |
09:11.13 | Ifaistos | this is what the icecc-create-env looks like -> http://pastebin.ca/284804 |
09:20.49 | Ifaistos | zecke : I have removed the dependancy so that icecc.bbclass can work. Let me know if you find sometime to look at solving this |
09:21.02 | CIA-4 | 03ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * rc491123f... 10/ (1 classes/icecc.bbclass): Remove depedancy on icecc-create-env to temporeraly solve circullar dependancy problem |
09:21.32 | zecke | will hack on minix until 13h |
09:26.38 | koen | zecke: minix support for OE? |
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09:35.27 | zecke | no |
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09:48.58 | Ifaistos | koen : Just noticed that the last commit message i have is on the 15th. Do you still get errors when try to send emails ? |
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10:00.00 | ade|desk | morning all |
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10:13.00 | Ifaistos | ade|desk : Hi |
10:13.12 | Ifaistos | Has anyone used that ? -> http://www.darcs.net/DarcsWiki/Tailor#fndef-6a3210770b09ff246285f014f87ca00d722d422d-2 |
10:13.45 | Ifaistos | i am looking for a way to sync our subversion rep with OE |
10:14.05 | zecke | we have used tailor for our 'battle of the scm's |
10:14.26 | zecke | besides some weird commit message mtn -> subversion works okay |
10:14.51 | vlo | XorA: I have tested with the angstrom mx31ads images I've found here, it doesn't work either ! |
10:15.05 | vlo | here is where I found them: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/20061214/mx31ads/ |
10:16.05 | Ifaistos | zecke : Do you have any config files for that ? |
10:16.26 | zecke | hmm, I fear I asked koen to rm -rf my homedir on ewi :} |
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10:18.32 | zecke | Ifaistos: the config is quite easy, the mtn reader needed some hacks |
10:18.54 | zecke | these crazy germans use 'ö', 'ä', 'ß' in commit message which python chokes on coverting |
10:19.18 | Ifaistos | :) |
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10:26.44 | hrw|work | http://www.openembedded.org/~hrw/screenlog.txt - new list of failues |
10:29.02 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rb313b9cf... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): arpwatch: dropped 2.1a13 |
10:29.20 | koen | hrw|work: gbluezconf can be dropped, as well as older libxml recipes |
10:29.54 | hrw|work | koen: feel free to do it - you have r/w |
10:30.06 | koen | hrw|work: you're the one having the error |
10:30.13 | hrw|work | ;) |
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10:38.55 | koen | XorA: :D |
10:39.19 | CIA-4 | 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r7077b8b2... 10/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
10:39.20 | CIA-4 | links_2.0+2.1pre26.bb, links-x11_2.0+2.1pre26.bb : new kOEn compliant |
10:39.20 | CIA-4 | naming scheme. Also broke common stuff into links.inc and added some |
10:39.20 | CIA-4 | python to version doesnt need to be hardcoded into .bb |
10:41.59 | XorA | hrw|work: anything you really want to see in the next OZ release? |
10:42.31 | hrw|work | XorA: any ideas what to add? |
10:42.56 | XorA | hrw|work: well ive done dillo, links, mplayer am looking at epdfview |
10:43.18 | XorA | hrw|work: claws-mail needs new libetpan, which I dont know if it break opie-mail |
10:43.28 | koen | XorA: doesn't the latest epdfview require and updated glib? |
10:43.39 | XorA | koen: hence why I am looking |
10:44.01 | hrw|work | XorA: I do not know should I stay with gtk 2.6.10 or update to 2.10.6/xft/cairo/angstrom one |
10:44.03 | XorA | koen: it needs new poppler |
10:44.25 | XorA | hrw|work: stay where you are, OZ is an incremental, when you start OZ 3.6.X then switch |
10:45.11 | koen | mixing gslice and non-gslice needs strange env vars |
10:46.35 | XorA | hrw|work: also you cannot ipkg update between gtk+ versions |
10:46.56 | hrw|work | ok |
10:46.58 | koen | unless you recompile and bump PR on lots of stuff |
10:47.13 | koen | *lots* |
10:47.27 | hrw|work | koen: lots like 'whole feed'? |
10:47.32 | koen | nah |
10:47.40 | koen | 90% of gtk apps |
10:47.46 | hrw|work | XorA: I do not want 3.6.x |
10:48.35 | hrw|work | I want angstrom 2007.something |
10:49.01 | koen | where 'something' is probably >=3 |
10:49.16 | XorA | hrw|work: then we are best making next OZ tide over to 2007.1 as that is looking quite stable apart from the zlib heisenbug |
10:50.07 | hrw|work | XorA: angstrom does not support opie. I want to add opie 1.2.2 to oz 3.5.5 |
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10:53.09 | zecke | hrw|work: wait for OpieII? |
10:53.59 | hrw|work | zecke: 3.5.5 will clear some OZ problems |
10:54.05 | XorA | zecke: will hell not be frozen before that release |
10:55.56 | hrw|work | zecke: do you have any plans about bittest^Wbitbake-qa? |
10:56.07 | zecke | XorA: maybe hell will freeze soon |
10:56.24 | zecke | hrw|work: should I have any plans? one plan was to incrementally write the report... |
10:56.32 | XorA | zecke: you realise we will be flooded with releases the day hell freezes |
10:56.55 | zecke | XorA: yes from MS DOS1.0 up to 6.22 full sourcecode |
10:57.16 | hrw|work | zecke: I have updated bittest to work with trunk of bitbake (but without threading) |
10:57.18 | zecke | XorA: printers and fax machines will print Windows source and other proprietary junk... |
10:58.37 | vlo | hum ... this looks very weird, my rootfs is fine when I use it through NFS, but not with jffs2 (with different kernels and with angstrom repository image and self-built image) |
10:59.02 | koen | another victim of the zlib heisenbug |
10:59.33 | XorA | !oebug #1684 |
10:59.34 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 1684, Status: NEW, Created: 2006-12-14 07:27 |
10:59.35 | cdbot2 | * * dp(AT)xora.org.uk: Angstrom segfault problems when booting from flash |
10:59.36 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1684 |
10:59.46 | XorA | vlo: add your notes to that bug |
11:00.03 | zecke | *need for food* |
11:00.12 | koen | thai food? |
11:00.57 | zecke | no no, maybe vietnamese food today |
11:01.01 | zecke | certainly no thai today |
11:01.18 | koen | I liked the vietnamese food in berlin |
11:01.24 | koen | and the thai food as well |
11:01.48 | XorA | vlo: also note lrg said, he never tested the drivers when he forward ported them |
11:02.01 | zecke | koen: feel free to crash at my place |
11:03.42 | vlo | XorA: yep, I know, that's why I'm still using Freescale 2.6.16.19 kernel (I have adapted lrg recipe so that it builds this kernel), I think the 2.6.19 still needs some work (now that I have a "working system", I could do this) |
11:04.47 | XorA | vlo: oh, heisenbug doesnt affect earlier than 2.6.18 |
11:04.57 | XorA | vlo: your flash drivers must just be buggered |
11:05.04 | vlo | too bad I didn't try NFS filesystem earlier |
11:05.56 | vlo | XorA: ok, so I think my issue is not the same: maybe some hardware or Freescale driver issue |
11:07.22 | XorA | vlo: sounds like it |
11:08.36 | zecke | hmm later |
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11:13.06 | CIA-4 | 03xora 07org.oe.oz354x * r33a62c47... 10/ (1 packages/cups/cups_1.1.23.bb): cups_1.1.23.bb : cups needs fakeroot during install |
11:17.10 | koen | XorA: I wonder how we can educate users that you don't need 'releases' to get bugfixes out |
11:21.03 | XorA | koen: just by making good quality package feeds |
11:21.24 | koen | XorA: the problem is with the Z users |
11:21.35 | koen | 'if it has a problem, reflash to something else' |
11:22.27 | XorA | koen: pdaXrom, shaprom, cacko rom, none of which have working ipkg, hence when you stuff, reflash is only option |
11:22.43 | hrw|work | oz sucks beacuse opie sucks because it can't run opera |
11:22.43 | koen | right |
11:23.04 | hrw|work | ipkg sucks |
11:23.14 | XorA | someone take a couple of hours, write a qt output driver for links, suddenly opera looks old skewl |
11:23.41 | koen | that someone should get opie/x11 working |
11:26.58 | koen | hrw|work: btw, opera doesn't respond to inquiries about getting version out for OE based distros |
11:29.46 | hrw|work | koen: I know |
11:29.59 | hrw|work | koen: and I know that they will not release it for such distros |
11:35.51 | XorA | J2ME and we can run opera :-) |
11:35.56 | CIA-4 | 03xora 07org.oe.oz354x * r33a62c47... 10/ (1 packages/cups/cups_1.1.23.bb): cups_1.1.23.bb : cups needs fakeroot during install |
11:41.33 | mickeyl | morning folks |
11:41.37 | mickeyl | XorA: is links/x11 good? |
11:41.42 | koen | hey mickeyl |
11:41.58 | XorA | mickeyl: it the browser I always use on my terrier/c7x0 |
11:42.11 | mickeyl | XorA: have a screenshot handy? |
11:42.12 | koen | mickeyl: remember the talk we had about reflash-kiddies 2 years ago? |
11:42.15 | XorA | mickeyl: its fast, neat, and works with quite a lot of pages |
11:42.21 | mickeyl | koen: yeah |
11:42.22 | koen | mickeyl: I suspect the situation hasn't changed |
11:42.27 | mickeyl | heh |
11:42.43 | XorA | mickeyl: I did upload some to scap, but I guess they gone these days |
11:45.25 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r70769bde... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): stunnel: dropped 4.05 obsoleted by upstream |
11:45.46 | XorA | mickeyl: trying to make some for you |
11:45.55 | mickeyl | thanks |
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11:47.30 | hrw|work | linux-2.6.5-gnalm1-gum0.patch - someone has it? |
11:47.48 | koen | gumstix? |
11:47.51 | hrw|work | yep |
11:48.16 | hrw|work | 2.6.5 so old and can be probably dropped but we lack gumstix people iirc |
11:49.46 | hrw|work | wrt54 support is something which can be dropped too |
11:49.46 | mickeyl | i still hope that someone picks it up |
11:49.47 | mickeyl | (wrt, that is) |
11:49.47 | mickeyl | you don't think it'll happen? |
11:50.25 | Ifaistos | i am working on wrt, but nothing to release yet |
11:50.38 | mickeyl | cool. still having a wrt54gs sitting here unused |
11:51.13 | XorA | mickeyl: check scap |
11:51.28 | mickeyl | hh.org or ltg? |
11:51.53 | XorA | mickeyl: I guess hh.org as gpe-scap seems to still send there |
11:51.59 | mickeyl | *nod* |
11:52.02 | mickeyl | hmm cool |
11:52.43 | mickeyl | how does it render on portrait displays? |
11:53.33 | XorA | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.17592.png |
11:53.39 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rd4e12ca2... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): gbluezconf: dropped (19 11:30 < koen> hrw|work: gbluezconf can be dropped) |
11:54.19 | mickeyl | XorA: thanks. looks like it needs a 'never-show-horz-scrollbar' mode |
11:54.28 | mickeyl | (thinking about the Neo) |
11:54.38 | XorA | mickeyl: I guessed |
11:55.22 | XorA | mickeyl: I guess you could proxy it through a html simplification service |
11:56.08 | XorA | mickeyl: BTW middle mouse is drag on links, so if you could make some interface coolness so clocking and dragging worked :-) |
11:56.19 | XorA | clicking |
11:57.23 | mickeyl | ya, since we don't have a scroll wheel or something we need to drag by clicking on free spaces |
11:58.21 | hrw|work | Ifaistos: wrt-utils wrt-imagetools-native linux-wrt are good candidates to being dropped |
11:59.04 | XorA | damn meeting time |
11:59.25 | Ifaistos | hrw|work : I have started working on wrt but stopped to get icecc working |
11:59.28 | hrw|work | ok |
11:59.46 | hrw|work | Ifaistos: those recipes fetch from cvs which does not exist |
12:00.15 | Ifaistos | hrw|work : yes and there are a few more things that need clearing up |
12:02.02 | Ifaistos | hrw|work : my task list at the moment is get icecc working (almost there) , port owmnr to task-base, find a way to sync our rep with OE, get our oplinux distro to task-base, work with wrt :) |
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12:03.36 | hrw|work | Ifaistos: need help? |
12:04.33 | Ifaistos | hrw|work : lots of it :) in fact i am thinking of hiring some OE people if a couple of projects we discuss get through |
12:07.33 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r5a54ff95... 10/ (8 files in 3 dirs): |
12:07.33 | CIA-4 | portmap: unified, added 5-24, dropped 5-7 |
12:07.33 | CIA-4 | - portmap 5-7 was used before Debian 'sarge' - not fetchable |
12:07.33 | CIA-4 | - portmap 5-24 will be in Debian 'etch' so will be fetchable for next 1-2 years |
12:07.33 | CIA-4 | - portmap-unslung not updated - it has other packaging |
12:08.58 | mickeyl | OT: upstart (new ubunut init) looks promising for embedded systems |
12:09.49 | hrw|work | mickeyl: it works quite good on my desktop |
12:11.31 | Ifaistos | any idea why my recent commit does not show up with CIA ? |
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12:13.05 | koen | mickeyl: how much trouble will it be to convert all our initscripts to upstart? |
12:13.51 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rb1b91c6f... 10/ (1 packages/intercom/intercom_0.15.bb): intercom: fix SRC_URI |
12:13.56 | mickeyl | not much if I understood correctly |
12:14.05 | mickeyl | one of the targets is compatibility |
12:14.10 | mickeyl | s/targets/goals/ |
12:14.26 | mickeyl | besides, we probably have to support more than just one init system in the future |
12:14.32 | mickeyl | so we need to come up with an abstraction anyway |
12:15.01 | hrw|work | koen: ipkg install upstart-sysv-compat? |
12:15.09 | hrw|work | Ifaistos: cia is lagged |
12:16.30 | koen | Ifaistos: check the commit mails |
12:18.07 | Ifaistos | koen : last commit message i got was on the 15th. probably it has to do with the error you told me yesterday with the mail server |
12:18.29 | koen | ah, right |
12:18.37 | Ifaistos | koen : do you still see it ? |
12:19.04 | CIA-4 | 03ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * r9bbebb75... 10/ (1 classes/icecc.bbclass): |
12:19.04 | CIA-4 | Fixed error in the way the user specified exclusion lists were handled |
12:19.04 | CIA-4 | Remove debug messages |
12:24.13 | Laibsch | Any objections to committing http://oz.leggewie.org/atk.unify.patch, http://oz.leggewie.org/btsco.unify.patch and http://oz.leggewie.org/busybox.unify.patch |
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12:36.00 | mickeyl | :) |
12:36.47 | hrw|work | <PROTECTED> |
12:36.57 | hrw|work | http://www.amd.com/files/connectivitysolutions/geode/geode_lx/Graphics_Video4Linux2_LX_03.02.0100.tar.gz - some one have it? |
12:37.22 | hrw|work | I want to check does http://www.amd.com/files/connectivitysolutions/geode/geode_lx/Graphics_Video4Linux2_03.02.0100.tar.gz is same |
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12:44.12 | florian_kc | hi all |
12:44.15 | hrw|work | hi florian |
12:52.29 | Ifaistos | koen : building angstrom for efika fails at glibc -> powerpc-angstrom-linux/csu/crti.S:(.init+0x20): undefined reference to `i_am_not_a_leaf' |
12:53.59 | Ifaistos | koen : i think i had the same on the dht and applied a patch of some sort |
12:58.00 | Ifaistos | koen : found it. CFLAGS_dht-walnut += " -O1 -g0 -fPIC -fno-inline-functions -fno-unit-at-a-time " |
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13:05.00 | koen_ | Ifaistos: it builds fine over here |
13:07.43 | Ifaistos | koen : -> http://pastebin.ca/284917 |
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13:19.07 | hrw|work | XorA|meeting: you used kismet iirc - 2004-*, 2005-01* are not available upstream - I want to drop them. |
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13:31.31 | mickeyl | http://www.garmin.com/careers/jobs |
13:31.40 | mickeyl | ! |
13:31.41 | mickeyl | :D |
13:32.44 | blaster8 | https://my.garmin.com/iRecruitment/jobdetails.htm?vacancyId=265 ? |
13:32.53 | mickeyl | yep |
13:32.54 | mickeyl | 265 is it |
13:32.59 | mickeyl | sounds like a great opportunity |
13:33.03 | mickeyl | not for me though |
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13:35.03 | Crofton|home | ug Kansas |
13:35.44 | hrw|work | mickeyl: forward to oe ml :D |
13:36.46 | mickeyl | done |
13:38.12 | dan2003 | Any developments on sound on the c7x0 recently? Last tme i tried the new alsa support (back in august) the sound , tho it worked, was of terrible quality. There was lots of electrical noise present. |
13:39.46 | XorA | dan2003: that should be fixed now |
13:40.01 | XorA | hrw|work: drop all the old ones |
13:40.05 | hrw|work | ok |
13:40.09 | hrw|work | food |
13:40.39 | koen | mickeyl: bribe the garmin dude next fosdem :) |
13:41.18 | mickeyl | yea |
13:41.31 | mickeyl | i wonder if they would consider hiring contractors :D |
13:43.55 | VoodooZ | mickeyl: yeah, I was looking at the syslog-ng stuff and then saw upstart which looks even more supported. |
13:44.36 | VoodooZ | ooops. I was looking at my logs so my reply is probably like 24 hours late :) |
13:44.39 | VoodooZ | hehehe |
13:45.08 | VoodooZ | I just want my darn boot to be shorter as it looks kind of bad for a robot to boot for 60secs! |
13:45.39 | XorA | VoodooZ: thats quicker than a female human :-) |
13:45.44 | VoodooZ | hahaha |
13:46.11 | VoodooZ | me too. |
13:46.31 | VoodooZ | It's going to be a bad day as I got a speeding ticket on my way to work! My first one ever! |
13:46.38 | XorA | VoodooZ: sucks |
13:46.43 | VoodooZ | and then I spilled my water bottle everywhere. |
13:46.46 | VoodooZ | What's next? |
13:46.55 | VoodooZ | rm -rf /? |
13:47.04 | XorA | someone boot VoodooZ off the channel before his karma spreads |
13:47.11 | VoodooZ | But I'll try to stay positive. |
13:47.13 | VoodooZ | :) |
13:47.47 | VoodooZ | anyone heard of someone getting opencv to compile under OE? |
13:48.05 | VoodooZ | I can barely get a simple package to run so I'm afraid to try that beast |
13:48.35 | VoodooZ | upstart is even more scary. |
13:49.24 | koen | "The library is compatible with IPL and utilizes Intel Integrated Performance Primitives for better performance." |
13:49.25 | koen | ugh |
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13:49.49 | koen | "Programming Language : C++, Python, Visual Basic" |
13:49.51 | koen | more ugh |
13:49.53 | VoodooZ | yeah, that's another thing that would be nice to speedup my poor slug |
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13:50.05 | Jin^eLD | huhu |
13:50.10 | VoodooZ | visual basic? Not for the linux version right? |
13:50.21 | koen | VoodooZ: ever though about using a blackfin for you robot? |
13:50.33 | VoodooZ | there's so much choice |
13:50.37 | koen | you can get those with a 750MHz dsp attached |
13:51.10 | VoodooZ | I'd have to teach myself DSPs though. |
13:51.10 | koen | mickeyl: can we have a blackfin cpu next to the ARM in neo v2? |
13:51.28 | VoodooZ | That's the problem with fancy cutting edge hardware. by the time the software infrastructure supports it it's obsolete. |
13:52.04 | VoodooZ | My first criteria is availability and price. that's why I'm still using a slug. cheap and easy |
13:52.13 | XorA | koen: give poor mickeyl time to finish the nea1 :-) |
13:52.24 | VoodooZ | My next project will use a portable as it's so much easier to get/setup. |
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13:52.55 | VoodooZ | koen: I thought the blackfin was rather slow though? |
13:53.25 | koen | VoodooZ: it is a limited arch, but anything is fast given enough mhz |
13:53.30 | mickeyl | XorA *nod* |
13:53.59 | mickeyl | koen: psst.... Sean told me he has some exciting news for v2, but he won't tell us until v1 ships :/ |
13:54.38 | koen | mickeyl: v2 has 6 spartan3 fpgas |
13:54.51 | mickeyl | hehe |
13:55.14 | VoodooZ | the vision stuff kind of limits me to X86 processors though. |
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13:55.30 | Crofton | v2 of what? |
13:55.41 | mickeyl | Crofton: the FIC Linux SmartPhone |
13:56.09 | Crofton | will you need a generator for it? |
13:56.47 | mickeyl | yes. like the older mobile phones where you had to carry a battery-bag with you |
13:56.59 | Crofton | :) |
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14:01.13 | mickeyl | yo drw |
14:01.17 | mickeyl | how's life? |
14:01.51 | drw | pretty good, busy with work/holidays/etc. |
14:02.05 | drw | how are you doing? |
14:02.31 | mickeyl | pretty well, thanks. busy as well, but that seems to be normal these days ;) |
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14:03.22 | drw | yep, same here |
14:06.59 | hrw|work | mickeyl: it will get 3rd button? :D |
14:07.21 | mickeyl | if you promise to be a good guy next year, we'll consider this |
14:07.28 | mickeyl | i'll ask Santa Claus |
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14:11.43 | hrw|work | ;D |
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14:16.00 | koen | rar? |
14:16.15 | mickeyl | yeah, watch the next commits |
14:16.15 | gerwinin | Mickely , :) time to take make a coffee than |
14:16.15 | koen | what kind of hippy warez stuff did you download? |
14:16.25 | mickeyl | heh |
14:16.29 | mickeyl | nothing at all |
14:16.37 | hrw|work | koen: linux-2.8.12.rar |
14:17.32 | TheCan | hrw|work, oh looks like with this goodie you can predict the future :) |
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14:17.47 | koen | mickeyl: I fixed a780.conf, at the cost of building ezx-kernels |
14:18.32 | mickeyl | at the costß |
14:18.33 | mickeyl | ? |
14:19.44 | koen | PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel = "ezx-kernels" made it build all the kernels without a COMPATIBLE_MACHINE set |
14:20.28 | hrw|work | mickeyl: give sign when to pull |
14:20.31 | koen | now MACHINE=a780 only build linux-ezx for a780 |
14:20.59 | mickeyl | k |
14:22.46 | gerwinin | Koen: I have put some images for x86 on my website |
14:23.01 | gerwinin | Koen: I noticed that loading from dom goes much better than from cf |
14:24.26 | hrw|work | zigbee? |
14:24.33 | koen | 802.15n iirc |
14:25.22 | hrw|work | 14 December, 2006 -- BusyBox 1.3.0 (stable) |
14:25.48 | gerwinin | hrw: got some zigbee stuff laying arround here and I am making some stuff with it |
14:26.01 | koen | "This release has CONFIG_DESKTOP option which enables features needed for busybox usage on desktop machine. For example, find, chmod and chown get several less frequently used options, od is significantly bigger but matches GNU coreutils, etc. Intended to eventually make busybox a viable alternative for "standard" utilities for slightly adventurous desktop users." |
14:28.07 | gerwinin | Koen: a lot of stuff in busybox segfaults with me |
14:30.39 | koen | gerwinin: likewise pointed use to a gcc patch to fix things like that on x86 |
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14:35.51 | XorA | ~lart pinkness and its mystical return |
14:36.30 | koen | XorA: the /etc/X11/Xdefault isn't working? |
14:37.18 | XorA | koen: scrollbar has mysteriously turned pink, it wasnt pink a couple of days ago |
14:39.28 | koen | ah, right |
14:39.44 | koen | XorA: someone hinted RGB(A) colour allocation is weird in diet-x11 |
14:40.12 | XorA | koen: libx11-6 - X11R7.1-1.0.1-r2 |
14:40.17 | XorA | no diet |
14:40.45 | koen | are you sure? |
14:41.00 | koen | diet-x11 disguised itself as the same ipkg as full x11 |
14:41.32 | hrw|work | Q |
14:41.36 | hrw|work | ops |
14:41.45 | gerwinin | Koen: cool |
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14:42.48 | XorA | koen: erk, thats bad, how do you install full libx11 if diet is the same name |
14:43.18 | hrw|work | mtn: renaming packages/hvsc/hvsc_5.8.bb to packages/hvsc/hvsc_45.bb |
14:43.24 | hrw|work | mickeyl: that? |
14:43.29 | CIA-4 | 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * ra0a2b808... 10/ (7 files in 2 dirs): atk: unify |
14:43.32 | mickeyl | ya |
14:43.49 | hrw|work | time to mirror then |
14:44.15 | hrw|work | I need to check what was fetched.. 12G of stuff.. |
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14:45.01 | hrw|work | <PROTECTED> |
14:45.08 | koen | XorA: now you see why I removed libx11 from my OE repo |
14:45.22 | koen | XorA: to avoid accidentilly putting it in the feeds |
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14:51.47 | hrw|work | Length: 45,796,026 (44M) [text/plain] |
14:53.40 | hrw|work | 06:51:34 (299.42 KB/s) - `/a/home/hrw/devel/build/celinux-test/tmp_sources/HVSC_45-all-of-them.rar' saved [45796026/45796026] |
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14:55.14 | CIA-4 | 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * ra0a2b808... 10/ (7 files in 2 dirs): atk: unify |
14:55.51 | hrw|work | mickeyl: can you fix recipes which fetch from vanille.de? |
14:57.25 | CIA-4 | 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * ra0a2b808... 10/ (7 files in 2 dirs): atk: unify |
14:57.41 | Laibsch | CIA-4 seems to be in a repeat loop |
14:57.45 | CIA-4 | ow |
14:59.46 | mickeyl | are there many? |
15:00.22 | hrw|work | ? |
15:00.33 | mickeyl | recipes which fetch from vanille.de |
15:00.56 | mickeyl | hmm too many |
15:01.11 | mickeyl | they should still work |
15:01.21 | mickeyl | i have added a redirector to http://linuxtogo.org/~mickeyl/mirror/ |
15:03.24 | hrw|work | and they follow |
15:03.30 | hrw|work | and they got 404 |
15:03.47 | hrw|work | http://www.openembedded.org/~hrw/screenlog.txt - check here |
15:03.58 | hrw|work | NOTE: fetch http://www.vanille.de/mirror/sip-4.4.5.tar.gz |
15:04.04 | hrw|work | NOTE: fetch http://www.Vanille.de/download/efl/efl++_0.1.0.tar.bz2 |
15:04.16 | hrw|work | those two for now |
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15:11.16 | chouimat | morning |
15:15.54 | florian_kc | koen: gpe-scap 1.1 is released. it needs libsoup now... but netcat isn't necessary anymore |
15:16.03 | florian_kc | hi chouimat |
15:16.19 | hrw|work | florian_kc: we had netcat as part of busybox anyway |
15:16.35 | hrw|work | does someone built busybox with shared library? |
15:16.59 | florian_kc | hrw|work: right... but if nothing else needs it we could just get rid of it. |
15:17.47 | mickeyl | ok, i'll keep that in mind |
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15:20.00 | hrw|work | chouimat: qtopia-core? |
15:20.10 | chouimat | no |
15:20.18 | chouimat | and it's 87MB |
15:20.20 | hrw|work | url? |
15:20.33 | chouimat | ftp.trolltech.com/qtopia/source |
15:20.52 | chouimat | http://www.trolltech.com/company/newsroom/announcements/press.2006-12-19.3282791093 |
15:22.04 | hrw|work | ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qtopia/source/qtopia-opensource-src-4.2.0.tar.gz |
15:22.18 | hrw|work | time to fetch before tt will decide to not gpl it |
15:22.32 | hrw|work | ;d |
15:22.46 | chouimat | homme de peu de foi |
15:23.23 | hrw|work | chouimat: skoro tak mówisz |
15:23.54 | Mavez-San | does the 2.6 kernel on spitz support like ext3 n stuff |
15:24.00 | Mavez-San | i want to format my sd card |
15:24.15 | XorA | Mavez-San: rootfs on spitz is ext3 |
15:24.20 | Mavez-San | with ahh ok |
15:24.26 | Mavez-San | cool |
15:26.01 | mickeyl | hrw|work: will you add qtopia ? |
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15:28.25 | Laibsch | Mavez-San: Are you interested in Japanese by chance? |
15:28.37 | hrw|work | mickeyl: first have to fetch, compile and look |
15:28.42 | Mavez-San | Laibsch i watch alot of anime |
15:28.44 | Mavez-San | ;) |
15:28.45 | Mavez-San | heh |
15:28.52 | Crofton | need to start mirroring the tarball :) |
15:29.13 | hrw|work | Crofton: torrenting |
15:29.17 | Laibsch | ah, manga-zoku. |
15:29.34 | Mavez-San | ^_^ |
15:30.01 | Laibsch | Mavez-San: I try to strengthen the Japanese side of things in OE. Help is always welcome as is general discussion. |
15:30.11 | Mavez-San | cool |
15:30.17 | chouimat | mickeyl: 87MB for qtopia + 56.38MB for qtopia-core ... will be fun on a dialup :) |
15:30.37 | Laibsch | Mavez-San: Maybe http://gakusei.sf.net would be interesting for you despite the sorry state wrt looks. |
15:30.38 | mickeyl | chouimat: looks to me like you don't need qtopia-core |
15:30.42 | mickeyl | seems to be included |
15:30.48 | mickeyl | the configure script is hell :D |
15:30.49 | Mavez-San | let me take a look |
15:30.52 | mickeyl | thousands of options |
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15:31.03 | hrw|work | mickeyl: like usual |
15:31.16 | hrw|work | few MB to go.. |
15:31.36 | hrw|work | fetched |
15:31.45 | chouimat | mickeyl: it might explain why it's so huge |
15:32.00 | mickeyl | ya |
15:32.26 | hrw|work | o.. they use dejavu fonts |
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15:39.12 | hrw|work | hmm.. |
15:39.19 | hrw|work | <PROTECTED> |
15:39.37 | hrw|work | and alsa support.. |
15:42.01 | chouimat | hmmm helix support |
15:42.29 | mickeyl | hmm |
15:42.34 | mickeyl | don't enable -voip |
15:42.38 | mickeyl | doesn't build with it |
15:42.48 | mickeyl | Project ERROR: Could not find directory tools/sipagent |
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15:48.02 | Ifaistos | how compiling OE in 6 machines looks like -> http://pastebin.ca/285042 |
15:49.37 | mickeyl | coolness |
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15:52.45 | hrw|work | .Project ERROR: Could not find directory libraries/qtopiatest/qtesttools/host in any of the project roots |
15:54.52 | mickeyl | hmm |
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15:55.26 | mickeyl | is there any README stating dependencies which we may miss? |
15:56.17 | chouimat | qtopia-opensource-4.2.0/doc/html/qtopia-dependencies.html |
15:56.32 | mickeyl | aah |
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15:56.53 | Mavez-San | sweet SD card works |
15:57.38 | koen | florian_kc: don't forget to update removal.txt |
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16:05.23 | hrw|work | Project ERROR: Could not find directory libraries/qtopiatest/qtesttools/host in any of the project roots |
16:05.29 | hrw|work | ~lart qtopia |
16:06.05 | chouimat | hmmm I think I will forget helix for now |
16:10.12 | CIA-4 | 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * rf9c74af4... 10/ (7 files in 2 dirs): btsco: unify |
16:10.29 | Laibsch | Oh, we got one step further ;-) |
16:11.44 | hrw|work | ;P |
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16:16.08 | hrw|work | Qtopia has been configured. You can build Qtopia by running make. |
16:16.11 | hrw|work | finally |
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16:16.57 | CIA-4 | 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r1df6d041... 10/ (7 files in 2 dirs): busybox: unify |
16:17.06 | Laibsch | oh, and the last one. |
16:17.32 | Laibsch | Ifaistos: Did you get my response to your PM? |
16:17.49 | Ifaistos | Laibsch : nop |
16:18.42 | Laibsch | I just resent it to ifaistos. |
16:19.26 | Laibsch | Ifaistos: got it now? |
16:19.36 | Ifaistos | Laibsch : no. |
16:19.52 | VoodooZ | Anybody know if the OLPC are going to be available to common mortals for hacking? |
16:19.58 | Laibsch | Ifaistos: you need to check your irc client. something is broken |
16:20.01 | VoodooZ | looks like a decent processor |
16:20.21 | XorA | Laibsch: have you registered your nick? |
16:20.29 | Laibsch | Ifaistos: I can read your stuff. Can you read mine? |
16:20.32 | Laibsch | XorA: yes |
16:20.54 | Ifaistos | Laibsch : no. strange |
16:21.32 | Ifaistos | Laibsch : can u pm anybody else in the channel ? |
16:22.04 | Crofton_ | VoodooZ, talk to CosmicPenguin |
16:22.18 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r1b9b5e29... 10/ (1 conf/machine/a780.conf): a780: unbreak kernel selection |
16:22.21 | Laibsch | Ifaistos: I successfully did so a few times in the past. I don't think this is my fault ;-) |
16:22.25 | CosmicPenguin | eh? |
16:22.28 | hrw|work | Crofton_: will ossie stuff get tarballs release? |
16:22.37 | Crofton_ | eventually |
16:22.38 | hrw|work | CosmicPenguin: geode_lx is yours? |
16:23.15 | Crofton_ | VoodooZ, was asking if OLPC would be avilable for hacking |
16:24.53 | CosmicPenguin | hrw|work: It might have been Ray's, but I guess I inherited it |
16:25.32 | CosmicPenguin | VoodooZ: The OLPC is currently only available for the core developers - you can apply to get one if you think you can contribute something back |
16:25.42 | hrw|work | CosmicPenguin: videodrivers has fetch error |
16:25.54 | CosmicPenguin | whats the url? |
16:25.58 | hrw|work | 19 13:38 < hrw|work> http://www.amd.com/files/connectivitysolutions/geode/geode_lx/Graphics_Video4Linux2_LX_03.02.0100.tar.gz - some one have it? |
16:26.01 | hrw|work | 19 13:38 < hrw|work> I want to check does http://www.amd.com/files/connectivitysolutions/geode/geode_lx/Graphics_Video4Linux2_03.02.0100.tar.gz is same |
16:26.03 | Ifaistos | Laibsch : write here |
16:26.05 | CosmicPenguin | ew |
16:26.09 | hrw|work | CosmicPenguin: that ones |
16:26.10 | CosmicPenguin | ew |
16:26.14 | XorA | root |
16:26.32 | CosmicPenguin | does OE even build 6.8 any more? |
16:26.48 | CIA-4 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r81edd71f... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): add unrar, a decompression utility for the RAR archive format |
16:27.00 | hrw|work | CosmicPenguin: I do not know - I fetch everything |
16:27.10 | CosmicPenguin | hrw|work: git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/xorg/driver/xf86-video-amd <-- thats where the 7.1+ driver lives |
16:27.17 | CosmicPenguin | hrw|work: I say, get rid of the old stuff |
16:27.20 | hrw|work | CosmicPenguin: and my fetch script does not care what it is and what for |
16:27.43 | hrw|work | CosmicPenguin: so I can drop it? |
16:28.47 | CosmicPenguin | hrw|work: hmmm - strange, that URL is valid |
16:28.57 | CosmicPenguin | hrw|work: but yeah - i say drop it |
16:29.04 | hrw|work | CosmicPenguin: 2nd is valid, first not |
16:29.42 | VoodooZ | CosmicPenguin: thanks. I was just wondering as the specs looked much better than I anticipated. |
16:29.55 | CosmicPenguin | VoodooZ: I think you would be disappointed |
16:30.04 | VoodooZ | really? why? |
16:30.26 | VoodooZ | Not If the price is right |
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16:30.41 | CIA-4 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r863cf849... 10/ (1 packages/hvsc/hvsc_5.8.bb packages/hvsc/hvsc_45.bb): hvsc 5.8: update to v45. TODO: split package up... 63MB might be a bit too heavy for some devices *cough* |
16:30.59 | VoodooZ | I think It would make a perfect robot controller |
16:31.02 | CosmicPenguin | hrw|work: I can't figure out the difference between the working URL and not - too little coffee |
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16:31.08 | CosmicPenguin | There are better Geode solutions for that |
16:31.22 | VoodooZ | maybe not the fastest but a nice package overall. |
16:31.24 | CosmicPenguin | The OLPC is not a very good general purpose hacking platform |
16:31.37 | CosmicPenguin | hrw|work: http://www.amd.com/files/connectivitysolutions/geode/geode_lx/Graphics_Video4Linux2_03.02.0100.tar.gz |
16:31.42 | CosmicPenguin | That URL works and is correct, use that |
16:31.48 | hrw|work | CosmicPenguin: just dropped |
16:31.50 | CosmicPenguin | I'll post a new .bb for the GIT driver at some point |
16:32.01 | VoodooZ | if you had to recommend an x86 Offthe shelf ITX/nano board which would you recommend? |
16:33.12 | VoodooZ | I'm not sure which of all those C3, Geode, etc.. to choose. I don't care much for the media stuff unless I can use to do vision stuff |
16:33.17 | CosmicPenguin | VoodooZ: there are numerous Geode solutions available |
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16:34.17 | Laibsch | Ifaistos: Here is my answer to the message you sent me. |
16:34.17 | CosmicPenguin | VoodooZ: http://www.wdlsystems.com/modperl/view_services.cgi?r=detail&prod_num=1LHURLE&aisle_id=807 |
16:34.27 | Laibsch | Ifaistos: Hi, I read about it in #oe. I had pinged you a couple of times. Thing is that the stuff before that did not appear to create any problems, but I also never saw any effect. For example, icemon tells me that 192.168.1.10 is running the scheduler (as it should). |
16:34.30 | CosmicPenguin | fore xample - thats built for industrial control |
16:34.31 | Laibsch | Ifaistos: But I never see any nodes in icemon. So I guess something more general is broken with icecc here. Something that has nothing to do with OE. I am not sure I can fix it. |
16:35.13 | Ifaistos | Laibsch : icemon does not work with recent versions of icecc. the protocol has changed |
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16:35.57 | VoodooZ | nice but expensive. |
16:36.00 | Ifaistos | Laibsch : add to the scheduler -vvv and check the log output |
16:36.08 | Laibsch | Ifaistos: OK |
16:36.22 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rc4e8134b... 10/ (1 packages/geode-drivers/geode-v4l2lx_2.6.11.bb): geode-v4l2lx: dropped. xorg 7.1+ driver is in git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/xorg/driver/xf86-video-amd |
16:36.25 | VoodooZ | That's why I like the slug as it's mass produces so dirt cheap. the ones designed for developers tend to be overpriced. |
16:36.29 | CIA-4 | 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r31db2946... 10/ (1 removal.txt): removal.txt: Update |
16:36.44 | VoodooZ | Perhaps I'll end up picking one of those via nanoitx ones. |
16:40.14 | hrw|work | cu |
16:40.23 | Laibsch | later hrw|gone |
16:41.24 | Ifaistos | Laibsch : you should see somehting like that for logs -> http://pastebin.ca/285101 |
16:42.50 | psokolovsky | RP: Hi! |
16:43.57 | Laibsch | Ifaistos: I think /etc/init.d/icecc does have the -vvv but it appears that only iceccd and not the scheduler picks it up: http://pastebin.ca/285104 Is that right? |
16:43.58 | psokolovsky | RP: One question, I wanted to ask you during previous hx4700 lcd driver discussion, but didn't dare. Well, time has come ;-). So, why Zaurus doesn't use LCD classdev? |
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16:46.23 | Laibsch | Ifaistos: log seems to be working now. |
16:47.43 | raduga | hi oe'ers :) |
16:48.12 | Ifaistos | Laibsch : good :). You should get an output like that once icecc kicks in -> http://pastebin.ca/285101 |
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17:16.51 | mickeyl | yo zecke |
17:16.56 | mickeyl | qtopia 4.2.2 is out |
17:17.02 | mickeyl | 4.2.0, even |
17:17.09 | chouimat | still compiling |
17:17.16 | mickeyl | compile finished |
17:17.18 | mickeyl | doesn't run here |
17:17.20 | mickeyl | heh |
17:17.48 | zecke | hey |
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17:18.10 | chouimat | mickeyl: I tried to get the helix support ... and gave up ... the instruction are not good enough |
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17:19.36 | mickeyl | hmm is the git binary on debian no longer named git? |
17:19.50 | zecke | mickeyl: update-alternatives first |
17:19.57 | mickeyl | oh |
17:20.34 | CIA-4 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r13bb4c8b... 10/ (7 files in 3 dirs): git: fix case of the disappearing snapshots by adding a stable release |
17:21.26 | mickeyl | yay, that worked. thanks zecke |
17:21.29 | zecke | mickeyl: git was a name of a GNU program... |
17:21.36 | zecke | GNU interactive 't'? |
17:21.39 | koen | GNU interactive tools |
17:22.43 | zecke | hmm time to implement the telephony stubs... |
17:22.44 | koen | mickeyl: did you fix git as well? |
17:23.02 | mickeyl | git-non-native? |
17:23.04 | koen | mickeyl: git (on the target) expects to find stuff in ${S} |
17:23.19 | mickeyl | dunno, i only built it. didn't try the cross version |
17:23.51 | mickeyl | sounds like a task for sed? |
17:24.10 | koen | for everything is a task for sed :) |
17:24.17 | koen | but it's perl |
17:24.26 | koen | perl, like m4, makes my eyes bleed |
17:25.45 | zecke | 87MB of sourcecode, because Qtopia dev's are too stupid to download three separate tarballs? |
17:26.03 | koen | zecke: or use upstream code? |
17:26.08 | koen | like jpeg, png, zlib, etc |
17:26.23 | chouimat | zecke: core is included |
17:26.50 | zecke | koen: no the 'size'/weight smells like Qt4 desktop, QtopiaCore4, Qtopia4 in onetar |
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17:28.28 | Laibsch | Ifaistos: Can you make anything out of http://rafb.net/paste/results/AQkeKv11.html ? The jobs are running on the scheduler machine only. |
17:28.47 | chouimat | dbus amr dbus gsm inputmatch libtimidity openobex qtdbus tar alsa bluez dissipate2 helix md5 openssl qtopiail zlib codecs inputmethodsatd sdptool <---- from 3rdparty |
17:28.52 | chouimat | zecke: ^^^^ |
17:29.49 | zecke | oh |
17:30.32 | chouimat | zecke: helix is just the qtopia-integration stuff ... wasn't able to get it working yet |
17:34.14 | koen | ehm |
17:34.16 | koen | openssl? |
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17:34.28 | koen | isn't take illegal to link against gpl? |
17:34.37 | sirfred | Hello |
17:34.44 | zecke | sure it is |
17:34.44 | koen | hey sirfred |
17:35.10 | zecke | and they started linking to it with Qtopia2.2 where not using GNU TLS was considered a crime against humanity already |
17:35.22 | Laibsch | Ifaistos: Going by http://en.opensuse.org/Icecream I would need port 10245 open but it is not. I do not have a firewall running. |
17:35.46 | koen | Laibsch: if you don't have a firewall, it should be already open |
17:36.11 | chouimat | zecke: does gnu tls still sucks? |
17:36.29 | zecke | no, as of last year it is usable... |
17:36.45 | zecke | so Trolltech should be killed by forcing customers to print |
17:36.57 | chouimat | zecke: k |
17:37.02 | zecke | This Software uses Software created by Eric Young in their books and other material... |
17:37.02 | Laibsch | Ifaistos: Furthermore, after adding an explicit entry about the host machine running the scheduler there seems to be some (unsuccessful) communication, I get tons of entries like http://rafb.net/paste/results/F5IEvI16.html in the scheduler log. |
17:37.16 | Laibsch | koen: That is of course nonsense. Unused ports aren't open. |
17:37.51 | Laibsch | koen: the inference "detection of closed port" -> "FW running" is just not true. |
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17:39.37 | Laibsch | I believe this is a mismatch in the icecc package between edgy and dapper: 0.7.14-3 vs. 0.6svn20060501-0ubuntu2 |
17:39.44 | zecke | koen: Proprietary code can link to OpenSSL. You only need to comply with the OpenSSL license and advertise |
17:39.57 | zecke | koen: worse with BlueZ which is GPL and Trolltech links against it |
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17:41.21 | koen | zecke: I'll refrain from making comments |
17:42.03 | zecke | ouch they even messed up with bluez |
17:42.06 | giel | the question is, does dynamically linking against something make it a derived work |
17:42.27 | zecke | They don't link to it. So avoid direct GPL violation |
17:42.47 | zecke | but patch old bluez to work with Qtopia => see MySQL AB cases about that... |
17:42.53 | giel | dynamic linking is done during runtime, so actually the user does the linking |
17:43.01 | zecke | giel: in KDE 'we' argue dlopening openssl is 'fine' |
17:43.11 | giel | zecke: i tend to agree with that |
17:43.31 | zecke | giel: now where is the case from dlopen to SO_NEEDED? |
17:43.35 | giel | zecke: but this is at the moment also (again!) a hot topic on LKML |
17:43.38 | zecke | giel: none and I tend to agree with the FSF here |
17:44.02 | zecke | giel: but patching GPL sourcecode to work with proprietary lib is fishy! |
17:44.09 | giel | zecke: that's for sure |
17:44.16 | zecke | giel: if it would be legal they would link to the lib directly |
17:44.49 | giel | heh, actually, i don't want to talk about it now either ;) |
17:45.02 | Ifaistos | laibsch : Yes the versions between edgy and dapper are not compatible |
17:45.30 | Laibsch | Ifaistos: Do you know about a backport to dapper? |
17:45.38 | Ifaistos | laibsch : That's what you see in the second log you posted |
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17:47.04 | Ifaistos | laibsch : As for the first log, it looks like jobs get distributes but since there is only one machine (the scheduler) it gets them. Also i have noticed that if the load of the scheduler is not high icecc prefers to send jobs to it than to remote machines |
17:48.13 | Ifaistos | laibsch : no i am not aware of any backports of icecc. Either update to edgy (this is what i did) or get the svn sources and compile them |
17:48.32 | zecke | mickeyl: They have a EZX PhoneStyle included... |
17:48.52 | Laibsch | I will eventually update to edgy. But this is my work machine so I have to do it in a controlled fashion. |
17:49.00 | Laibsch | Let's see if I can compile it. |
17:49.13 | mickeyl | zecke: really? funny :) |
17:49.51 | zecke | mickeyl: for some reasons it is #if 0 |
17:50.20 | mickeyl | zecke: if it runs for you, please do some screenies |
17:50.21 | ljp | you can see it by setting int he server wigets setting app |
17:50.34 | chouimat | hi ljp |
17:50.40 | ljp | hello |
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17:51.40 | zecke | mickey|sports: no clean namespacing in Qtopia4 |
17:52.35 | Ifaistos | laibsch : Did you update the icecc.bbclass ? It looks like you are running the older version, not the one i check in today |
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17:54.58 | Ifaistos | Does anyone know what's the latest linux-headers that can be used with uclibc-initial_0.9.28 ? |
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17:55.32 | Laibsch | Ifaistos: I still run the older version until I get the more general icecc issues sorted out. |
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18:03.30 | zecke | topia-opensource-4.2.0 ich$ grep -rn FIXME src/* | wc -l 99 |
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18:07.53 | ljp | zecke there is still also some porting comments as well |
18:09.26 | zecke | XXX results in 248 |
18:09.50 | sirfred | Qtopia have been opensourced completely? |
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18:10.01 | zecke | sirfred: no |
18:10.09 | ljp | ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qtopia/source/qtopia-opensource-src-4.2.0.tar.gz |
18:10.24 | sirfred | zecke: What's missing? |
18:10.27 | sirfred | ljp: Thanks |
18:10.28 | zecke | sirfred: lacks complete Phone stuff and other stuff as well |
18:10.35 | ljp | everything except sxe, drm and telephony |
18:11.57 | sirfred | Now that I've started to play with X... |
18:13.57 | XorA | hey sirfred |
18:14.01 | sirfred | XorA: Hello. |
18:15.09 | sirfred | ljp: Last time i took a look at qtopia-core sources, I missed some examples that used to be for gfxdrivers, one for mach64, other for voodoo, IIRC, ... Is there any hardware acceleration support in the qtopia-core opensource version? |
18:15.11 | chouimat | ljp: nice |
18:15.58 | ljp | same as what is in qtopia core |
18:16.14 | ljp | ermm... that didnt make sense |
18:16.37 | zecke | later |
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18:18.03 | FAQ23 | Hi |
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18:19.30 | CIA-4 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r68550c89... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-handhelds-2.6-2.6.16/hx4700/defconfig): |
18:19.30 | CIA-4 | linux-handhelds-2.6 2.6.16: hx4700 defconfig: have ext2 builtin, so it can |
18:19.30 | CIA-4 | boot from a memory card. |
18:19.35 | CIA-4 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rbfdb21ec... 10/ (1 packages/xserver-common/xserver-common_1.13.bb): |
18:19.35 | CIA-4 | xserver-common: Add 1.13. |
18:19.35 | CIA-4 | * All pending OE patches were accepted. |
18:19.35 | CIA-4 | * So far, DEFAULT_PREFERENCE=-1. |
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18:30.20 | chouimat | ljp: so far qtopia look nice ... but the qvfb skins are a little bit hard to use with a 3200x1200 screen :) |
18:31.55 | ljp | so get binoculars |
18:32.03 | chouimat | hehe |
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18:33.43 | psokolovsky | koen, Everything is ready to upgrade Angstrom to linux-handhelds-2.6_2.6.16-hh8: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1701 |
18:41.13 | koen | psokolovsky: read my reply to your mail :) |
18:41.22 | koen | IOW: |
18:41.25 | koen | push it! |
18:41.38 | psokolovsky | koen, thanks ;-) |
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18:42.13 | koen | I think we can follow the rule "a week of silence is complete approval" |
18:42.48 | psokolovsky | koen, I hope so ;-) |
18:48.26 | CIA-4 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r6ffc8e88... 10/ (1 packages/xserver-common/xserver-common_1.13.bb): xserver-common 1.13: Remove DEFAULT_PREFERENCE=-1. |
18:48.35 | CIA-4 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r2615762a... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf): |
18:48.35 | CIA-4 | angstrom-2007.1: Upgrade linux-handhelds-2.6 to 2.6.16-hh8. |
18:48.35 | CIA-4 | * Prerequisite, xserver-common 1.13, was made a default version in previous |
18:48.35 | CIA-4 | commit. (-hh8 standardizes an makes consistent application buttons keycodes |
18:48.36 | CIA-4 | used by different HH.org ports). |
18:49.16 | XorA | I object, those scummy Ipaqs dont deserve real code :-) |
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18:51.28 | psokolovsky | XorA, lol. you hint something about bricky zauri which are no longer pdas and not yet notebooks? ;-) |
18:52.19 | koen | XorA: they deserve win32 codecs! |
18:55.20 | koen | *cough* |
18:55.26 | koen | zauri or zaurusses |
18:55.35 | koen | latin is too dead to get raped |
18:55.38 | ljp | heh.. you should see my desk |
18:55.59 | XorA | koen: in true latin Zaurus would probably be plural anyway |
18:56.25 | ljp | yes, but zaurus is japanese |
18:56.35 | ljp | so latinisms dont apply |
18:56.43 | XorA | Zaurus ^ X |
18:56.53 | koen | XorA: yeah, 3rd declination and all |
18:57.20 | koen | one japanese, two japanii |
18:58.12 | psokolovsky | hey guys, that plural was sarcastic, of course ;-) |
18:58.32 | koen | XorA: it all makes sense |
18:58.37 | koen | XorA: one wus, two wii |
18:59.12 | XorA | koen: I still wait for the special Golden Wii |
18:59.18 | NAiL | uuuuuh |
19:06.59 | koen | XorA: is that a side effect of irn bru? |
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20:20.06 | koen | someone at the university is saying "D'oh" right now |
20:20.29 | koen | most likely the same person that disconnected the uni from the rest of the world |
20:20.54 | psokolovsky_ | koen, do you have plans to provide another Angstrom build before holidays? ;-) |
20:21.06 | koen | anyone can do that |
20:21.47 | psokolovsky_ | koen, I mean, official, at http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/ |
20:21.57 | koen | if I get time |
20:22.04 | koen | and access to the build box again |
20:22.06 | psokolovsky_ | heh, I see 20061219 there ;-) |
20:22.21 | psokolovsky_ | if it only picked up recent changes ;-) |
20:22.26 | psokolovsky_ | koen, ok, thanks! |
20:22.41 | koen | root@h2200:~# uptime |
20:22.41 | koen | <PROTECTED> |
20:30.54 | koen | psokolovsky_: install 'old' image -> ipkg update ; ipkg upgrade |
20:31.46 | psokolovsky_ | koen, well, I want to do some PR on local forums among dumb users, so that won't work ;-) |
20:32.46 | koen | educate them |
20:33.17 | psokolovsky_ | koen, first need to show them something (like working buttons) ;-) |
20:33.27 | koen | I can foresee >8 months between releases, but regular bugfixes via package feeds |
20:33.57 | psokolovsky_ | koen, btw, is angstrom still 2007.1 or 2007.3 now? |
20:34.04 | koen | 3 |
20:34.15 | psokolovsky_ | ok |
20:34.22 | koen | mickey|sports and I will do some release talk during fosdem |
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20:34.43 | psokolovsky_ | I see, nice. |
20:35.32 | psokolovsky_ | I just saw that popup baloons (like "Settings saved") are now normal size, not full-screen. So, things improve ;-) |
20:35.56 | psokolovsky_ | I'd still say that gtk2.10 themes look low-contrast on PDA ;-( |
20:36.24 | koen | still theme same theme engine |
20:37.16 | psokolovsky_ | koen, weird. I probably too conservative then ;-E. 2.6 looked better |
20:37.42 | koen | it's the same theme engine, so there's no perceptual difference between gtk-theme-clearlooks on 2.6 and 2.10 |
20:38.22 | psokolovsky_ | ok, will need to boot both versions to convince my persception ;-) |
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20:49.57 | koen | mickey|sports: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2006-November/msg00125.html |
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20:56.21 | do13 | morning all |
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20:57.54 | do13 | hey hrw|gone, koen* |
20:58.01 | koen_ | hey Dirk |
21:19.06 | chouimat | http://thedailywtf.com/forums/thread/107695.aspx |
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21:22.57 | greentux_alt | gd evening |
21:24.21 | koen | hey greentux_alt |
21:24.57 | greentux_alt | just i noticed ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qtopia/source/qtopia-opensource-src-4.2.0.tar.gz |
21:25.11 | greentux_alt | xmas time... |
21:26.54 | woglinde | oehm |
21:26.55 | woglinde | hm |
21:27.07 | woglinde | and zecke is on christmas party |
21:27.57 | chouimat | speaking of xmas party ... later |
21:28.54 | greentux_alt | woglinde: I am not the qtopia freak to say "yeahh thats it" or "sh...t code, useless"... |
21:30.10 | hrw | hi |
21:30.12 | hrw | linking /home/hrw/Desktop/downloady/qtopia-opensource-4.2.0/lib/libqtdbus.so.4.2.0 |
21:30.12 | hrw | /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lqtopiabase |
21:30.13 | Crofton | hrw, I updated the OSK images on the celinux wiki |
21:30.16 | woglinde | tr htw |
21:30.18 | woglinde | re |
21:30.20 | woglinde | hrw |
21:30.21 | woglinde | hms |
21:30.28 | chouimat|away | greentux_alt: at least I will have a lot less #define in my code :) |
21:30.44 | Crofton | I checked my log and people actually downloaded them |
21:30.58 | chouimat|away | hrw: compiled fine here ... didn't tried with dbus yet |
21:30.59 | hrw | cool |
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21:31.09 | Crofton | and I became afraid they suffered from the dropbear/OABI problem |
21:31.25 | hrw | chouimat|away: I'm not suprised with such problems |
21:31.38 | Crofton | I added a credit for OE also |
21:31.39 | hrw | chouimat|away: I did build of qtopia 2.2 months ago |
21:32.25 | hrw | and I 'love' tt buildsystem... |
21:32.46 | chouimat|away | hrw: didn't managed to get the helix support yet ... spent the afternoon buy xmas gifts ... and porting a small app to 4.2 ... removed an assload of #ifdef qt2 :) |
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21:34.21 | chouimat|away | hrw: so I think this app will be qt4/qtopia4/kde4 around xmas time ... |
21:35.25 | hrw | fscking xmas |
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21:35.39 | hrw | each fscking shop play fscking american xmas songs |
21:35.53 | hrw | ideal time for xmas buying |
21:36.24 | chouimat|away | hrw: yup ... will cost me around 200CAD to go see my family for 3 days ... (and 6 hours trip (around 550km)) |
21:36.31 | hrw | and now I have to fill 4 page long tax form because win32 app which I use for taxes can not count my tax... |
21:36.41 | hrw | ~change 200 cad to pln |
21:36.47 | hrw | chouimat|away: ONLY 6h? |
21:36.56 | hrw | chouimat|away: 9h in one way for me |
21:37.30 | greentux_alt | 3h for me... :) |
21:37.55 | chouimat|away | hrw: one way ... in bus I asked my father to come get me in quebec city (about 100km) because the last part is the milk run (3 hours to do 100km) instead of 1 in car :) |
21:38.20 | hrw | cu |
21:38.21 | hrw | afk |
21:38.35 | chouimat|away | anyway time for me to go get drunk (a little bit) |
21:38.40 | hrw | ~lart taxes, lack of tax apps for linux |
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21:43.51 | Ifaistos | night everyone |
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21:59.46 | hrw | I wonder when we will get a day when qtopia will just build |
21:59.58 | ljp | builds for me |
22:00.04 | Crofton | rofl |
22:00.15 | hrw | linking /home/hrw/Desktop/downloady/qtopia-opensource-4.2.0/lib/libqtdbus.so.4.2.0 |
22:00.15 | hrw | /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lqtopiabase |
22:00.15 | hrw | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
22:00.17 | Crofton | because you have all the dependencies :) |
22:00.26 | hrw | ljp: looks like does not like dbus |
22:00.36 | ljp | hmmm |
22:00.48 | hrw | ljp: qtopia4 use parallel make but does not have depends |
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22:02.35 | ljp | we use a large teambuilder farm just fine. make -j1 also works |
22:04.18 | hrw | ljp: I used 'make' without -j |
22:04.46 | hrw | hrw: normally it is same as 'make -j1' |
22:05.13 | hrw | 'make -j1' fails in same way.. do I have to clean, reconfigure, make again? |
22:06.05 | ljp | running configure will clean |
22:06.07 | hrw | ljp: btw - any plans for splitted downloads or not? |
22:06.15 | hrw | ljp: I forgot which options used ;( |
22:06.33 | hrw | 'make clean' started |
22:06.45 | ljp | only one package since qtopiacore is tied to which version |
22:07.10 | hrw | also hacked 3rdparty tied? |
22:07.26 | hrw | ok. make clean;make -j1 started |
22:07.48 | hrw | will see tomorrow how it will result (1.4GHz athlon is slow machine today) |
22:10.08 | hrw | but I do not request support - TT will respond with 'we do not support gcc 4.1.1/debian, please use good old 3.4' or sth like that |
22:11.05 | ljp | greenphone is compiled with 4.1.1 |
22:11.20 | ljp | so ner |
22:11.33 | hrw | ljp: qtopia4 doc does not even mention 4.1.1 - last 'experimental one is 4.1.0 |
22:14.43 | ljp | look at devices/greenphone/environment it mentions 4.1.1 |
22:15.09 | hrw | will later - now its 23:16 here |
22:16.10 | mickey|sports | *yawn* |
22:16.18 | mickey|sports | congrats ljp |
22:16.23 | mickey|sports | _finally_ :D |
22:16.40 | ljp | thanks. ya, tell me about it |
22:16.45 | mickey|sports | hehe |
22:17.30 | ljp | now if linuxtogo would fix svn db permissions so my import would succeed |
22:17.41 | mickey|sports | pester florian |
22:17.54 | hrw | and then we can start changing buildsystem etc? |
22:17.54 | mickey|sports | hrw: sip 4.4.5 is now @ vanille |
22:17.56 | ljp | i wil :) |
22:18.06 | hrw | mickey|sports: gracias |
22:18.07 | mickey|sports | hrw: efl+ 0.1.0 will be removed |
22:18.09 | mickey|sports | np |
22:18.51 | hrw | ljp: I like an amount of warnings which qtopia core give - nearly null |
22:19.04 | hrw | ../../include/QtCore/../../../qt/src/corelib/kernel/qobject.h:370: warning: type-punning to incomplete type might break strict-aliasing rules |
22:19.11 | hrw | mostly such things |
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22:21.13 | ljp | thats qt. talk to Oslo :) |
22:24.25 | hrw | ljp: my qtopia4 build stopped before qtopia |
22:24.55 | ljp | hmm |
22:25.22 | hrw | now builds qtopiacore/gui |
22:25.53 | ljp | opieII will have a zaurusclamshell device configuration |
22:26.04 | hrw | 19M archive: http://www.openembedded.org/~hrw/arch.tar.bz2 - Angstrom i686 chroot |
22:26.15 | hrw | *self hosted* OE builds |
22:26.57 | koen | all thanks to mickey|sports's effort to unify the distros |
22:26.59 | ljp | hrw: if you want to run qtopia on 16 bit display device before i get opieII commited, I have a patch that did not make it into 4.2.0 release |
22:27.19 | hrw | ljp: I want to run it on my x86 box in qvfb first |
22:28.00 | mickey|sports | koen ;) |
22:28.44 | hrw | ljp: my main toy lack good fb support |
22:28.44 | ljp | odd |
22:28.59 | ljp | so port qvfb :) |
22:29.01 | hrw | ljp: its Progear webpad |
22:29.13 | hrw | ljp: or port qtopia4 to qt4/x11 |
22:29.19 | ljp | good luck |
22:29.44 | ljp | i will try pushing that qt qtopia summit in january |
22:31.11 | hrw | ? |
22:31.24 | hrw | qt3support is building now.. |
22:32.05 | hrw | I wonder will someone write qt2support for qtopia 1.x/2.x apps ;D |
22:32.50 | ljp | qtopia doesnt use qt3support. thats for desktop tools |
22:33.34 | ljp | if you do want to change opieII build system, please make it not compile desktop tools for cross builds |
22:35.01 | hrw | ljp: plans are: build it, build it working more on less on x86/qvfb, try to use normal stuff instead of qtopia/3rdparty etc |
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