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00:00.59likewiseSonicvanaJr: Hmm, somebody ran into this earlier and fixed it, but I dunno how: http://tonikitoo.blogspot.com/2005/11/manaos-embedded-browser-for-nokia-770.html
00:02.49SonicvanaJrThat doesn't really help, but thanks anyway.
00:03.21likewiseSonicvanaJr: sorry, I do not have the build available and am not motivated to debug it anyway, too much on my todo list.
00:03.32SonicvanaJrIt's fine
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08:53.37Ifaistosmorning all
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09:15.44koenSonicvanaJr: replace -lxpcom with -lxpcom_glue
09:15.52koengood morning all
09:18.34Ifaistoskoen : hi
09:18.42koenhey Ifaistos
09:19.41Ifaistoslooking at the madwifi stuff... we need a kernel hacker :(.  The bplan people have now started to migrate efika from ppc to powerpc
09:20.16Ifaistosso i think 'better solution' drom madwifi for the time
09:20.23Ifaistosdrom=drop
09:21.28IfaistosI managed to get svn to sync with mtn using tailor....
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09:21.47Ifaistosbit don't know how i did it ;-D
09:33.01CIA-403koen 07org.oe.dev * rc9fac2df... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
09:33.01CIA-4cairo: update to 1.3.10
09:33.01CIA-4From the release notes:
09:33.01CIA-4This is the fifth development snapshot in the 1.3 series. It comes 9
09:33.01CIA-4days after the 1.3.8 snapshot, and still well within our goal of
09:33.02CIA-4having a new snapshot every week, (though don't expect one next
09:33.04CIA-4week---we'll all be too stuffed with sugar plums).
09:33.09CIA-403koen 07org.oe.dev * r847499bf... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf): angstrom: prefer cairo 1.3.10
09:58.40RPmorning all
10:01.33IfaistosRP : Hi !
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10:09.12koenhey RP
10:14.03greentuxhoi rp
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10:25.58koenRP, mickey|tv: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/cairo/2006-December/009012.html
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10:36.30jayakumar2when I do DISTRO_EXTRA_RDEPENDS = "firefox", how does bitbake work out which version of firefox to build?  i'm trying to figure out why putting PREFERRED_PROVIDERS = "virtual/firefox:firefox-1.5.0.6" has no effect and the build picks firefox-1.0
10:37.37koenthere is no virtual/firefox
10:37.53koenyou'd want PREFERRED_VERSION_firefox = "1.5.0.6"
10:37.59jayakumar2ah, i see
10:38.19jayakumar2thx
10:42.34goxboxliveKoen: When i want to add some applications to angstrom-gpe-image when building, where is the correct place to add that. Should it be in angstrom.*.conf or in local.conf?  
10:42.54koenlocal.conf
10:45.49goxboxlivekoen: So this one: #zap extra stuff taking place in $MACHINE.conf
10:45.49goxboxliveGPE_EXTRA_INSTALL = "" should actually be placed in my local.conf and not where it is now, right?
10:46.25koenGPE_EXTRA_INSTALL shouldn't be used anywhere
10:47.15koenyou'd want to append to ANGSTROM_EXTRA_INSTALL
10:52.08goxboxliveok
10:53.28goxboxliveBut, if  i want gomunicator with gpe and not with bootstrap-image how do i differ that? Wouldnt Gomunicator install in both of them when i use ANGSTROM_EXTRA_INSTALL
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11:11.46cyrilRomainmorning all!
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11:15.56disasterhi all
11:17.14cyrilRomainwhen building angstrom-gpe-image, libx11-X11R7.1-1.0.1 try to include headers from the host system: http://rafb.net/p/oKtok891.nln.html
11:17.45koencyrilRomain: is your OE checkout up to that?
11:17.46cyrilRomainit should try to include the xorg-headers instead, right .
11:17.47cyrilRomain?
11:17.53cyrilRomainkoen: yes
11:17.57koenmickeyl fixed that weeks ago
11:18.25cyrilRomainkoen: ah. it is up to date though ...
11:18.30RPkoen: Ever improving :)
11:19.25koenRP: yeah, ross and I were just discussing dropping http://svn.o-hand.com/view/poky/trunk/meta/packages/gtk%2B/gtk%2B-2.10.6/cellrenderer-cairo.patch?rev=1084&view=markup
11:19.58RPkoen: via email?
11:20.02koenyes
11:20.17RPkoen: You'll have noticed poky-bleeding?
11:20.29koenthat patch patches out the function that carl made way faster
11:20.34koenRP: yes, I noticed
11:21.35RPkoen: Hopefully ross will run some tests, confirm its now faster without the patch and then drop that patch
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11:21.51koen"I was wondering that too.  I'll have to get the theme benchmark running
11:21.52koenand find out."
11:22.55RPI've also been pushing EABI a bit in poky...
11:23.07koengood
11:23.16koenI noticed poki-eabi4
11:23.51RPBasically the same as Angstrom. I jsut wish everyone would use the same EABI instead of all the different csls around
11:24.20koencsl is just trying to make money and push armv6
11:24.28RPIf I can switch poky to default to eabi, it will be eabi4
11:25.34RPSadly poky eabi doesn't boot on at least akita atm :-/
11:25.56koenzlib heisenbug?
11:26.04RPmaybe
11:26.27RPI'm flashing spitz now...
11:27.32RPqemuarm builds ok, qemux86 doesn't
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11:32.43RPkoen: You should mention that patch to ross
11:32.57koenalready did :)
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11:36.40koenRP: I was discussing sapwood with mickey|tv a while back and now Ross hinted at it again
11:37.06koensapwood would be neat for devices with lots of ram (i.e. FICs phone)
11:52.41RPkoen: I try to keep out of that side of things :)
11:53.47koen:)
11:59.23likewisehelloy koen, RP
11:59.29koenhey likewise
11:59.31likewise-y
11:59.56likewisekoen: apart from the madwifi problem, did libusb build ok for efika on your side?
12:00.06koennope
12:00.18koenhrw suspects it needs to link with g++ instead of ld
12:00.32koenor LDFLAGS += "-lstdc++"
12:00.45koenI just removed 'usbhost' from MACHINE_FEATURES
12:01.23likewiseme too... but I was about to pick it up.
12:02.00likewisehmm, I see tmp/cross/lib/gcc/powerpc-angstrom-linux/4.1.1/../../../../powerpc-angstrom-linux/lib/libstdc++.so being on the arg list
12:03.39CIA-403koen 07org.oe.dev * r989da191... 10/ (5 files in 4 dirs): sapwood engine: add svn version
12:05.46LaibschAnybody have an idea how to find symlinks that point to directories but exclude the ones that point to files?
12:06.48likewisekoen: I have some trivial fixes on the bug server, could you see into pushing those: 1661, 1706 and 1707 or should I wait for a bug squash weekend or commit access? :-)
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12:16.57RPhi likewise, zecke
12:17.03zeckehey
12:17.12likewiseRP, zecke: morning
12:19.12cyrilRomainhi zecke
12:19.22koenhey zecke
12:19.29koenLaibsch: basename + file?
12:21.01cyrilRomainkoen: x11 headers are in staging dir but not included. I'll see with hrw how did he managed to make it right. (I think 'CPPFLAGS=-I${STAGING_INCDIR}' is missing from xorg-lib-common.inc)
12:26.53Laibschkoen: Thanks.  Actually, just file -L is enough.
12:27.40LaibschOh, powerful Linux.
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12:34.41Crofton|laptopkoen, Astrid Centre Hotel, right?
12:34.56NAiLlikewise: my epia board is comatose :-\
12:36.15NAiLI can't debug right now, but I suspect it's a GSC capacitor that's busted :(
12:36.20NAiLif not, it's linuxbios :-P
12:36.23koenCrofton|laptop:  Place du Samedi 11 Zaterdagplein
12:37.25mickeyl*yawn*
12:37.31koenhey mickeyl
12:37.31Laibschgood morning!
12:37.59mickeylmorning
12:38.04Crofton|laptopyep
12:38.18Crofton|laptopI have a reservation at the right hotel :)
12:38.22mickeylis skoroneos@digital-opsis.com here?
12:38.30mickeylkoen: impressive speedup!
12:38.32koenmickeyl: that's Ifaistos
12:38.33Crofton|laptopkoen, Europe is going digital tv now?
12:38.56koenmickeyl: that code is commonly used to draw buttons and stuff
12:39.19koenCrofton: it's still mixed analog and digital over here
12:39.35mickeylIfaistos: you have been unsubscribed because of excessive bounces
12:39.50mickeylIfaistos: please resubscribe if your mail situation has been fixed
12:42.46ArjanShi people
12:43.05ArjanSwhich DISTRO should I use to build the most usable but up to date image?
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12:46.36koenmickeyl: have you seen http://www.netsurf-browser.org/ yet?
12:51.16mickeylRiscOS?
12:52.46koenthe OS for advanced risc machines
12:53.01koenit runs on maemo as well: http://bleb.org/software/770/netsurf-002.png
12:53.23koena modern dillo
12:53.27mickeyloh
12:53.29mickeylthat's not bad
12:53.49mickeylmight qualify as our browser
12:54.01zeckemickeyl: eek. WebKit!!!
12:54.14zeckemickeyl: Mike Emmel looks like working on the Gdk/Gtk+ backend of it
12:54.49mickeylzecke: sounds good as well
12:54.53koenbbl, xmas shopping
12:55.06mickeylhave fun
12:55.24koenmickeyl: could you take care of adding keys while I'm shopping?
12:55.39mickeyldidn't get any yet
12:56.00mickeylforward them to me and I'll add 'em
12:59.19mickeyleven shopping for gadgets? :D
12:59.30Crofton|laptopwell
12:59.45Crofton|laptopI can do that after christmass when stores are sane again
12:59.51mickeyltrue
12:59.56mickeylit's pretty crowdy these days
13:00.05Crofton|laptopyeah
13:00.21Crofton|laptopI have not been near any of the "large retail centers" for a month
13:02.16likewisemickeyl: keys are incoming now
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13:07.40mickeylto where?
13:08.27likewisemickeyl: to koen@openembedded.org and mickeyl@openembedded.org
13:08.36mickeylk, that should deliver
13:11.57chouimatmorning
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13:13.15likewisepvanhoof: good morning. were you at t-dose/eindhoven?
13:13.42pvanhoofyep, I was
13:13.45pvanhoofI even did a talk
13:13.51pvanhoofthe one about tinymail
13:18.15cyrilRomainjust for info: xlibs.bbclass is not inherited in any receipe of the .dev branch
13:24.12likewisepvanhoof: I am just trying to remember I met you at the coffee machines with koen and gerwinin. I think that was you, right? (Sorry, I am bad at names)
13:25.51pvanhoofI didn't met koen at t-dose, so it probably wasn't me
13:26.07pvanhoofs/met/meet
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13:30.09Laibschmickeyl: Are you still updating opie-wellenreiter or would it be a waste of time to find out why it crashes for me when "reading manufacturers" at startup?
13:30.33Laibschmickeyl: disregard.  Wrong package.  This was opie-stumbler.
13:30.34zeckeLaibsch: missing manufacteurer file
13:30.45Laibschzecke: Where to add?
13:30.59zeckeLaibsch: oh opie-stumbler, no idea :)
13:31.04Laibschok
13:31.13LaibschI think wellenreiter was working fine.
13:33.20Laibschwellenreiter works just fine.
13:36.59mickeylAs is my involvment in Opie, all my Opie-Programs is gone
13:37.09mickeyls/is gone/are dead/
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13:46.04Laibschunfortunate
13:48.21zeckelife :)
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13:59.20gilbert_hello ;)
14:00.56gilbert_how can I do a custom package selection and build and than build an image?
14:01.08likewisemickeyl:  thanks a bunch!
14:01.26mickeylgilbert_: create a task-gilbert
14:01.37mickeyland then an image-gilbert
14:02.12gilbert_yes, I did this, bbut isn't there a way to add packages to local.conf maybe?
14:05.55gilbert_ok then I will do it this way :=
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14:28.47likewisemickeyl: the wiki does tell how to commit, but not any specifics on how to push or sync. What is the recommended way?
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14:44.48CIA-403likewise 07org.oe.dev * raca32242... 10/ (1 packages/libzvbi/libzvbi_0.2.24.bb): Added bitbake recipe for libzvbi 0.2.24.
14:45.07chouimatWhen Bob found out he was going to inherit a fortune when his sickly father died, he decided he needed a woman to enjoy it with. So one evening he went to a singles bar where he spotted the most beautiful woman he had ever seen.
14:45.07chouimatHer natural beauty took his breath away. "I may look like just an ordinary man," he said as he walked up to her, "but in just a week or two my father will die, and I'll inherit 20 million dollars."
14:45.07chouimatImpressed, the woman went home with him that evening.
14:45.07chouimatThree days later, she became his stepmother.
14:45.11chouimatooops
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14:50.05likewiseHopsNBarley: Hi there, could you glance over http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1706?
14:53.04zecke|foodlikewise: push
14:53.11zecke|foodlikewise: and please push to the correct branch
14:53.45likewisezecke|food: ok, I used the correct branch, but used sync (which is push + pull)
14:54.59zeckeI created the zecke branch using sync, so I stay away from sync :)
14:57.41likewisezecke: but push can probably also push a branch upstream, right?
14:58.02zeckelikewise: yes :)
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15:18.30koenlikewise: we met toi when having coffee
15:23.10koen| collect2: ld terminated with signal 11 [Segmentation fault]
15:29.53likewise(unsure if it runs linux, but it is probably better it won't)
15:44.20SonicvanaJrkoen where would I do that
15:50.18hrw|gone|xmas~/cr
15:52.35cyrilRomainhey hrw|gone|xmas
15:53.52hrw|gone|xmaskoen: +1 from me for Leon r/w
15:54.05hrw|gone|xmascu all - xmas time continue
15:54.41RPhrw|gone|xmas: enjoy :)
15:55.55Crofton|laptopMerry Christmas
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16:11.41mmphello; I just noticed that in 2.6.16 kernel .config from org.oe.dev there is no sound support - is this intentional or disabled just by accident? :)
16:11.54mmp(I'm speaking about h5000 devices, sorry:)
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16:44.48zeckehaha, just found that getsockname is broken in XNU,NetBSD,OpenBSD,FreeBSD,DragonFlyBSD
16:45.29koenzecke: my socks don't have names
16:46.01zeckesteven's says name is misleading ;)
16:46.23chouimatkoen mine too but they smells alot ;)
16:56.31SonicvanaJrkoen how to I change -lxpcom to -lxpcom_glue ?
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17:30.33HopsNBarleylikewise: ping.
17:31.45likewiseHopsNBarley: pong
17:31.59HopsNBarleythanks for the bug.   i'm taking a look now.
17:33.28HopsNBarleyis there a "better way" of finding the latest kernel?  Should i be using the ipkg system for this?
17:34.24likewiseHopsNBarley: dunno, but do you want to keep the kernels timestamped like that?
17:34.51likewiseHopsNBarley: I have disabled that for my kernels and images. (Although it does allow you to compare sizes etc).
17:34.57HopsNBarleyi dunno.  seemed like the thing to do at the time.
17:35.26HopsNBarleythe $9 is the file name, of course.  
17:36.07HopsNBarleylet me look at some other examples in OE, and then i'll see if i can make this better.
17:36.23HopsNBarleyright now though i need some breakfast and another cup of coffee....
17:48.04likewiseHopsNBarley: yes, but here, $8 is the filename, and $9 is empty. Have a nice breakfast. (ls -tr | tail -1 always works)
17:48.56HopsNBarleyi did, thanks.  good idea on the ls. also looking at using ipk to handle this.
17:49.29HopsNBarleylikewise, BTW, my QNAP should be in on tuesday.
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17:50.34koenHopsNBarley: it seems openprotium-image could use a COMPATIBLE_MACHINE
17:51.17HopsNBarleyadmittedly, it could use a lot of things. i do have some diffs i'm getting ready to push.  i'll look at that koen, thanks.
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17:54.32likewiseHopsNBarley: I'll look at OE'ing the QNAP only if I can make it net boot. I want to be able to fall back to the as-is firmware without a hiss.
17:54.51likewiseHopsNBarley: I promised my girl her files would be safe there :-)
17:56.01HopsNBarleyi'll do net boot first, so i'll let you know.
17:58.10HopsNBarleylikewise, how do you like the as-is on the qnap.  didn't you do some work on that?
17:58.24koenthe ts-401t looks nice
17:58.45HopsNBarleyi'm getting the 201.
18:00.29likewiseHopsNBarley: some work? no. It's reasonably OK. I would overhaul the bittorrent downloader. It is unusable for Linux users due to IE dependencies. Also, I should be able to just drop torrent files on the share and automatically have it pick up the download.
18:00.55HopsNBarley...maybe it was NAiL, sorry.
18:00.58likewiseCannot test GigE (yet), have to buy a GigE switch still.
18:01.21likewiseNAiL: ping? ^^
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18:50.29NAiLlikewise: pong
18:51.54likewiseHopsNBarley and I were discussing the QNAP device, you deployed any firmware on that unit?
18:52.01NAiLlikewise: I've got a firmware where the bittorrent downloader works just fine on linux
18:52.06NAiLit's not released yet though
18:52.55NAiLHopsNBarley: The 201 has almost exactly the same hardware/firmware as my 101. The only difference is that my eSATA port is internal on your 201 afaik.
18:53.10likewiseNAiL: are you involved with the official f/w, or can you obtain it through your vendor?
18:53.28SonicvanaJrkoen you there ?
18:53.28NAiLI'm not officially involved, no.
18:53.57NAiLI've got the 1.3.0 release, and an upcoming 2.0.0 release
18:54.23NAiLThe norwegian distributor wants me to try to see if I can fit in a couple of things on it
18:55.48NAiLHopsNBarley: The as-is on the 2.0.0. firmware is actually pretty nice. It's the only device I've considered leaving that way
18:56.06NAiL(ie, only add optware-style packages, not redo the whole shebang)
18:56.43NAiLI haven't run into any problems with it either. Works like a charm :)
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18:57.32NAiLThe TS-201 should do exactly the same, except for some minor differences regarding the internal disk vs. my external one.
18:57.42NAiLlater
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20:52.39mickey|groceryls -la
20:52.42mickey|groceryoops
20:54.01HopsNBarleyat least it wasn't your password.
20:54.27mickeylhehe
20:54.28mickeyltrue
20:54.51koenhey mickeyl
20:54.57mickeylcheers koen
20:55.03mickeylit's oh so quiet here
20:55.09mickeylmust be... christmas time or something
20:56.56koenseems like it
20:57.26koengoing to visit the in-laws tomorrow
20:58.07koenthe yearly runaround to visit all the families
20:58.18HopsNBarleyguys, where's a good place to put the kernel in between everything going into tmp/rootfs, deleting the kernel from rootfs, and making a jffs2.
20:58.33HopsNBarleytmp/rootfs/.. ??
20:59.06koenHopsNBarley: instead of deleting it you could do FILES_kernel-image="" ALLOW_EMPTY_kernel-image = "1" in your kernel bb
20:59.14mickeyli think the canonical position is tmp/deploy/images/
20:59.23mickeyland zap your kernel from kernel-image if you don't need it
20:59.25mickeylyeah, like koen said
20:59.42koen${DEPLOYDIR_IMAGE} iirc
21:00.10koen${DEPLOY_DIR_IMAGE} even
21:00.40HopsNBarleybu t i do need it (later) to make the flash image.  if i use the kernel-in-kernel-image approach, i can leverage ipkg a bit.  or, i can pluck it out of tmp/deploy/images (as i'm currently doing).  both okay?
21:02.25koenI don't recall a canonical way for that
21:02.55HopsNBarleythere are of course +/-'s... well, sorry to bug.  thanks.  i'll grind it out.
21:04.17Ifaistosgreetings to all
21:04.25koenhey Ifaistos
21:05.28Ifaistosit looks like Xmas.... not the usual amount of commits today :)
21:05.34Jin^eLDhi Ifaistos
21:05.53HopsNBarleyhi also from west coast!
21:06.22koenHopsNBarley: gainesville has moved?
21:07.25HopsNBarleyi did (-;  again  )-;
21:08.47IfaistosIts a big coast :)
21:09.38IfaistosToday i spend almost the entire day on my rooftop... fixing my wireless network connection
21:10.06Ifaistosif i had a red costume people would think i was the Santa :)
21:11.43HopsNBarleykoen, how'd you have my hometown on the tip of your keyboard?
21:12.23koenFlorida Brewer of the Year :)
21:13.01HopsNBarleyoh right!  bragging will get you into trouble.  and it was gainesville brewer of the year.  smaller (but equally enthusiastic) crowd
21:13.05koenI looked it up on the map last week to check if I hadn't passed it last year
21:13.18HopsNBarleyhope it wasn't summer.
21:13.41koenit was summer and orlando was as north as I got
21:13.54koenand key west the most southern point :)
21:13.56CIA-403mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r81ad048d... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): familiar[-unstable].conf: "clean" up the situation by issuing a message
21:14.16IfaistosHopsNBarley : You are in Florida ?
21:14.22HopsNBarleythe keys are tremendous.  there are also a bunch of springs around gainesville that are amazing.  72F year round.
21:15.12HopsNBarleyi formerly was in florida, now bay area.
21:15.41IfaistosHopsNBarley : I was in SF a month ago
21:15.57IfaistosHopsNBarley : Probably will be back in February
21:16.01koenI did pass SF once, but that was 12 years ago :)
21:16.12HopsNBarleydamn!  i woulda taken you to my favorite beer bar.
21:16.40Jin^eLDhmm.. when I have my own kernel, and I want some apps to compile vs my kernel headers - is it enough just to bitbake the kernel before building the rest? or do I have do anything special before that? are the headers staged?
21:17.31koenJin^eLD: add DEPENDS="virtual/kernel" to your apps :)
21:18.02koenmickeyl: you forgot to update removal.txt
21:18.12mickeylright.
21:18.15mickeyldoing that now
21:18.18Jin^eLDkoen: thanks
21:21.13Ifaistos15% more throuput just by enabling fastframes.... wonder what compressing will do
21:25.36koenIfaistos: try replacing it with a cat6 cable :)
21:26.36Ifaistoskoen : It will be kind of difficult -> http://wind.awmn.net/?page=nodes&node=2030
21:27.05Ifaistoskoen : I will need something like 20 km of it....
21:27.19koennomarchia?
21:28.30Ifaistosprefecture (or something like that)
21:28.53Ifaistosdistrict
21:29.09koenthat are a lot of nodes
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21:29.44Ifaistosit's a big mesh(y) network :)
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21:40.22Ifaistosthat all for today for me. cu tomorrow
21:40.35Ifaistosnight
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