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| 01:51.25 | hillct | how comprehensive is the CPAN build class? |
| 01:52.02 | hillct | has anyone tried to build all available cpan packages using stub recipies? What percentage succeed? |
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| 04:46.22 | nm_ | hi * |
| 04:46.36 | nm_ | my old distro using inherit image_ipk in bb file |
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| 04:48.57 | nm_ | anybody can tell me this package has been rename ? |
| 04:49.11 | nm_ | hmm bbclass file in classes, |
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| 08:55.27 | saladino | hi |
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| 09:10.41 | do13_ | morning all |
| 09:10.55 | Ifaistos | saladino: hi |
| 09:11.04 | Ifaistos | hi do13_ |
| 09:11.14 | do13_ | hi Ifaistos |
| 09:11.26 | lrg | hey Dirk, morning all |
| 09:11.29 | hrw | morning |
| 09:11.34 | do13_ | hey Liam, Marcin |
| 09:12.42 | Ifaistos | hrw : Have you noticed any libtool problem for x86 and uclibc ? in my case gettext fails compaining about a missing m4 file |
| 09:13.03 | hrw | Ifaistos: I do not remember when last time I did uclibc build |
| 09:13.10 | hrw | and it was for mipsel |
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| 09:16.22 | XorA | morning |
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| 09:18.14 | do13_ | hi XorA |
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| 09:22.20 | saladino | Ifaistos |
| 09:22.20 | saladino | what was the distro you were compiling? |
| 09:22.20 | koen | hey XorA & do13_ |
| 09:22.32 | XorA | yo koen |
| 09:22.43 | Ifaistos | saladino: my own ;) its called oplinux |
| 09:23.03 | saladino | ahm |
| 09:23.07 | saladino | but uclibc powered? |
| 09:23.41 | Ifaistos | saladino: both. there is a glibc (glibc 2.5) and a uclibc (uclibc 0.9.28-svn) version |
| 09:24.06 | Ifaistos | saladino: i am testing it on x86, powerpc and mips (next week) |
| 09:24.10 | saladino | Ifaistos with what gcc version? did you see my mail to oe list? |
| 09:24.20 | Ifaistos | saladino: gcc 4.1.1 |
| 09:24.30 | koen | Ifaistos: .29 release after fosdem :) |
| 09:24.45 | Ifaistos | koen : cool :) |
| 09:24.55 | saladino | Ifaistos i tried with that version and i get a "internal compiler error" O_O |
| 09:25.25 | Ifaistos | saladino: i haven't touch arm builds yet |
| 09:25.34 | saladino | ahm |
| 09:26.06 | saladino | im trying to solve it but im a bit stucked |
| 09:26.18 | Ifaistos | saladino: my main focus is on powerpc and x86 targets at the moment |
| 09:26.55 | saladino | and is all compiling correctly? |
| 09:27.31 | hrw | Ifaistos: gcc 4.1.1, glibc 2.5 you say... |
| 09:27.43 | Ifaistos | saladino: well it depends on how you define "correctly" |
| 09:27.47 | hrw | Ifaistos: any plans to join Angstrom distro team? |
| 09:28.04 | saladino | Ifaistos, no terrible errors like internal compiler error not? |
| 09:29.00 | Ifaistos | hrw : i think i partially did :) i got some work/packages on efika submitted to the feed :) |
| 09:29.51 | Ifaistos | saladino: no. they only problem i have and try to solve at the moment is that soft-float support is crappy (at least for non arm targets) |
| 09:30.50 | hrw | mickey|defence: fingers crossed |
| 09:30.55 | mickey|defence | thanks!!! |
| 09:31.04 | mickey|defence | when i'm back it's over --- in any case :) |
| 09:31.07 | mickey|defence | c'ya |
| 09:31.24 | Ifaistos | hrw : i am now trying to figure out which packages work for glibc 2.5, so we can get a angstrom-packages.bb |
| 09:33.07 | ade|desk | gl mickey|defence |
| 09:35.05 | koen | Ifaistos: angstrom-packages.bb is a bad idea |
| 09:35.15 | koen | Ifaistos: it's better to fix the stuff that doesn't work |
| 09:36.13 | Ifaistos | hrw koen : i was thinking of doing monthly "fresh' builds for all supported targets |
| 09:37.05 | Ifaistos | hrw koen : so we can get Q&A on a regular basis on what is working and what not |
| 09:38.40 | Ifaistos | hrw koen : what do you think ? |
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| 09:48.13 | gena_ | hello! maybe someone can help to solve apparently simple problem with angstrom build error of glibc-intermediate-2.5-r4: task do_configure |
| 09:53.11 | CIA-3 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r4195ab00... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): linux-ezx: remove localversion, we already have it in PR |
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| 09:57.53 | do13_ | gena_: which arch? |
| 09:58.48 | gena_ | x86.conf + c3-tune.conf |
| 09:58.58 | gena_ | | checking for kernel header at least 2.6.17... too old! |
| 09:58.59 | gena_ | | configure: error: *** The available kernel headers are older than the requeste |
| 09:58.59 | gena_ | d |
| 09:59.24 | gena_ | where does it look for kernel headers actually? angstrom downloads 2.6.18 actualy |
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| 10:04.19 | gena_ | do13_: oops, sorry, it was generic who'd downloaded kernel 2.6.18, when building angstrom - tu the time when glibc-intermediate is built there is no unpacked kernel in the work dir, which kernel did it take then? |
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| 10:04.45 | do13_ | gena_: I have no build for x86 here. look for linux-libc-headers |
| 10:05.18 | hrw | gena_: my progear/angstrom build works. |
| 10:05.25 | hrw | progear is x86 based |
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| 10:06.19 | gena_ | do13_: hmm, strange, in the work dir there's linux-libc-headers-2.6.15.99-r4. does 2.6.15 stand for the kernel version here? |
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| 10:14.38 | gena_ | did anyone have "kernel-too-old" problem when building glibc-intermediate with angstrom? |
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| 10:28.29 | schurig | hrw: hi, how are you? |
| 10:28.42 | slapin_nb | Hi! why could "cannot find -lgcc_eh" happen when building glibc-intermediate? |
| 10:28.55 | gena_ | sorry for bugging everyone, but I'll sum up the problem once more: |
| 10:28.56 | schurig | hrw: I'm currently sitting at the firmware download stuff, now that I have time again for the libertas CF card |
| 10:28.56 | gena_ | x86,angstrom,task-base |
| 10:28.56 | gena_ | uses linux-libc-headers-2.6.15.99-r4 |
| 10:28.56 | gena_ | while do_configure of glibc-intermediate-2.5-r4 |
| 10:28.57 | gena_ | I receive configure error: |
| 10:28.57 | gena_ | checking for kernel header at least 2.6.17... too old! |
| 10:28.58 | gena_ | configure: error: *** The available kernel headers are older than the requested |
| 10:29.00 | gena_ | any clue/fix? |
| 10:29.36 | slapin_nb | arch is arm, distro is angstrom |
| 10:29.49 | schurig | mickey|defence: hi! Not yet Dr. ? |
| 10:31.22 | do13_ | gena_: try building newer linux-libc-headers |
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| 10:35.54 | hrw | schurig: hi |
| 10:36.08 | hrw | bb in 5 minutes |
| 10:39.04 | gena_ | do13_: thx, will try... |
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| 10:48.19 | hrw | re |
| 10:48.29 | hrw | schurig: he has defence today |
| 10:49.17 | gena_ | do13_: looks like I found what's the problem: |
| 10:49.29 | hrw | schurig: I just subscribed to libertas-dev recently. I spend most of time on working for OH now |
| 10:49.29 | gena_ | do13_: PREFERRED_VERSION_linux-libc-headers_i686 ?= "2.6.18" |
| 10:49.30 | gena_ | PREFERRED_VERSION_linux-libc-headers_powerpc ?= "2.6.18" |
| 10:49.30 | gena_ | PREFERRED_VERSION_linux-libc-headers ?= "2.6.15.99" |
| 10:49.51 | schurig | hrw: OH ? |
| 10:50.15 | gena_ | this is in angstrom.conf, my arch is i586 and 2.6.18 is only installed when building for i686, do I see it right? |
| 10:50.41 | do13_ | gena_: yep |
| 10:50.42 | hrw | openedhand |
| 10:50.54 | gena_ | do13_: thank you very much indeed! |
| 10:51.41 | do13_ | gena_: does it work now? |
| 10:52.35 | hrw | schurig: OpenedHand |
| 10:53.20 | gena_ | do13_: will try in a minute |
| 10:55.09 | gena_ | do13_: need an RTFM about the difference between xxx = yyy and xxx =? yyy in *.conf files, could womeone give a link? |
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| 10:58.13 | hrw | gena_: ?= is 'set if not set' |
| 10:58.32 | gena_ | thx! |
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| 11:08.35 | CIA-3 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r2be33b1e... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf): angstrom: add linux-libc-headers version for i586 and i486 |
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| 11:21.28 | hrw | do13_: 2.6.17 is last working tosa kernel? |
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| 11:23.26 | do13__ | hrw: last with usb host |
| 11:23.52 | hrw | ok |
| 11:24.52 | hrw | do13__: I will pin 2.6.17 for tosa then |
| 11:25.48 | do13__ | hrw: ok |
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| 11:30.22 | hrw | koen: can you change OE snapshot to be 0.30 generated? |
| 11:31.06 | koen | OE.mtn you mean? |
| 11:31.17 | hrw | yes |
| 11:31.30 | hrw | I got another debian user which cant use snapshot |
| 11:31.33 | koen | You'd need to come up with a very good reason |
| 11:31.55 | koen | since the 0.32 static build works on debian |
| 11:32.06 | hrw | koen: on powerpc? |
| 11:32.57 | koen | eh, no |
| 11:33.06 | koen | but people with 0.30 can download the 0.30 db |
| 11:33.11 | koen | that's why it's there, right? |
| 11:33.20 | CIA-3 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r6c1ed5cf... 10/ (1 conf/machine/tosa.conf): tosa: prefer 2.6.17 kernel as this is last with working USB Host support |
| 11:33.57 | koen | what I can do is update the 0.30 snapshot to the current head |
| 11:34.17 | hrw | koen: sure. but how many docs already point to only one snapshot? how many people does not even know which version of monotone they have? |
| 11:34.47 | koen | how many lazy idiots are there in the world? |
| 11:34.55 | koen | we can't make everyone happy |
| 11:35.19 | hrw | but we can decrease amount of noice from them with one 'mv' |
| 11:35.31 | koen | The canonical doc (GettingStarted) points to snapshots |
| 11:36.22 | Ifaistos | does any of the images generate a "minimum" image for X ? (i.e just loggin) |
| 11:36.22 | koen | hrw: an mv won't help |
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| 11:36.36 | koen | every morning it takes a snapshot of the db the server uses |
| 11:36.44 | koen | which is running 0.32 on debian |
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| 11:39.05 | hrw | ok |
| 11:40.02 | hrw | fsck. progear bios does not support keyboard conencted via hub;( |
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| 11:49.15 | koen | hrw: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/20070222/tosa/ |
| 11:50.05 | hrw | thx |
| 11:50.20 | hrw | koen: can you also build gpe-test? |
| 11:50.29 | koen | sure |
| 11:50.52 | do13__ | koen: where is the opie image? :) |
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| 11:51.07 | koen | opie isn't supported |
| 11:51.35 | koen | it seems no-one wants to support it properly |
| 11:54.11 | psokolovsky_ | why, opie slowly progresses. I'm going to add config for 1.2.3-pre soon |
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| 12:14.51 | CIA-3 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rc3a4255c... 10/ (1 packages/gnome/libsoup_2.2.98.bb): libsoup: fix staging |
| 12:21.08 | hrw | ~change 18 gbp to pln |
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| 12:36.35 | hrw | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:36.38 | hrw | root@progear:~$ dates |
| 12:36.39 | hrw | ideas? |
| 12:36.42 | hrw | (dates:2005): GConf-WARNING **: Client failed to connect to the D-BUS daemon: |
| 12:37.02 | hrw | looks like dbus on my progear does not want to work at all |
| 12:38.18 | koen | hrw: you don't have the env var pointing to the session bus |
| 12:38.48 | hrw | idea why? I just did /etc/init.d/dbus start |
| 12:38.56 | koen | that's the system bus |
| 12:39.23 | hrw | what runs session bus? |
| 12:39.38 | hrw | I cant get ANY login/session manager from OE working |
| 12:39.56 | koen | eval `/usr/bin/dbus-launch --auto-syntax --exit-with-session` |
| 12:40.22 | hrw | now better |
| 12:40.52 | hrw | now other part of system needs work |
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| 12:41.46 | koen | hrw: if you don't mind being root you can use the o-hand 'login' scripts |
| 12:41.54 | koen | they are in OE as well |
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| 12:42.02 | CIA-3 | 03coredump2 07org.oe.dev * r792a595e... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): nfs-utils: Fix compile for kernels > 2.6.18 |
| 12:47.31 | CoreDump|afk | ...... |
| 12:47.50 | CoreDump|afk | I so know why I avoided .dev in the past |
| 12:48.10 | koen | because you suck? |
| 12:48.41 | CoreDump|afk | because .oz actually build and doesn't get fucked up every second day |
| 12:49.01 | slapin_nb | anybody remembers how to fix /home/slapin/openedhand/tmp/cross/lib/gcc/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/4.1.1/../../../../arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/bin/ld: cannot find -lgcc_eh |
| 12:49.38 | slapin_nb | probably I miss some package in my installation? it is during build of glibc-intermediate-2.5 |
| 12:49.51 | slapin_nb | distro is angstrom |
| 12:52.50 | RP | Rob Kramer just found a nice bug in the PACKAGE_INSTALL handling. |
| 12:52.52 | RP | psokolovsky_, koen: You should read the reply I just sent to the list... |
| 12:56.19 | koen | hrw: gpe-image uploaded |
| 12:58.46 | psokolovsky_ | RP: I knew it's not that simple... ;-) I just wished that OE namespaces were clearly described in docs (they weren't when I read tehm in the beginning ;-) ) |
| 12:58.56 | hrw | koen|away: thx |
| 13:00.33 | psokolovsky_ | RP: and other issue I see with image building is that RRECOMMENDS are always pulled in. I understand that's ipkg mostly, wonder if it's worth to add switch to tell ipkg to don't do that (if it has such) |
| 13:01.20 | RP | psokolovsky_: It pulls them in if they're there. You're describing RSUGGESTS behaviour... |
| 13:02.08 | psokolovsky_ | RP: yes, but if you build recipes, they are *always* there. what if I want to build minimal image (initrd, etc)? |
| 13:02.44 | RP | psokolovsky_: I know what you mean, it is an ipkg issue really though |
| 13:02.51 | psokolovsky_ | yep |
| 13:03.08 | RP | psokolovsky_: The lack of docs is mainly due to the namespaces being properly defined only more recently |
| 13:03.13 | wrobbie | ah, hi paul :) just responded to your mail |
| 13:03.28 | RP | psokolovsky_: You probably don't remember the bad old days before some of my bitbake changes... |
| 13:04.25 | psokolovsky_ | RP: only hazy ;-) |
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| 13:14.13 | hrw | ~change 1200 pln to eur |
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| 13:34.53 | hrw | hi Cliff |
| 13:35.02 | koen | RP: libraries in PACKAGE_INSTALL haven't been a problem since sane people don't ship unused libs.... |
| 13:44.08 | cbrake | hrw: hello |
| 13:45.09 | hrw | fsck.. I have a tool to calibrate touchscreen in progear but it use ncurses. and vesafb does not give any output ;( |
| 13:48.30 | RP | koen|uni: It should just work even if the user wants to do something insane though... |
| 13:49.23 | schurig | hrw: okay, firmware downloading now works |
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| 13:49.49 | schurig | it's very different on CS as opposed on USB, so I could not re-use much of OLPC libertas code |
| 13:50.00 | hrw | schurig: you extracted firmware from windows driver? |
| 13:50.19 | hrw | ~seen florian |
| 13:50.48 | ibot | florian <n=fuchs@87.193.44.191> was last seen on IRC in channel #openezx, 13h 30m 13s ago, saying: 'good night'. |
| 13:51.59 | schurig | no, from the wifistix binary only linux module |
| 13:52.00 | schurig | but I guess extracting it from windows CE driver would be possible as well |
| 13:52.00 | hrw | schurig: ah. good - they used 5.0.16/17 driver from marvell so it is quite fresh |
| 13:52.00 | hrw | schurig: prplaggue had problems with firmwares from other cards iirc |
| 13:52.00 | hrw | but I do not remember details |
| 13:52.31 | schurig | hrw: did you point prplaggue to the linuxtogo project? I've just found out yesterday via google search that he is doing something like me |
| 13:53.50 | schurig | hrw: the OLPC libertas code is written for Firmware v5.1, and by accident someone from Marvell sent in a PDF with the firmware spec |
| 13:54.09 | hrw | schurig: he is in project |
| 13:54.36 | hrw | schurig: David Anders == prplaggue |
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| 13:55.18 | schurig | hrw: once I got it all running I need to pepper the OLPC code with "is firmware = V50 then this else that". The OLPC people agreed to that approach. |
| 13:56.12 | kaafree | hihi all. I am kindly sorry but can someone please explain me how to make MTN understand that I am behind proxy ? |
| 13:57.54 | schurig | kaafree: google for "monotone proxy" :-) |
| 13:58.54 | kaafree | schurig, did it but couldn't find anything for brain-paralized like me. Can you give a couple of links please ? |
| 13:59.23 | schurig | hrw: having the FW spec is quite nice. However, I'd would be even nice if I would have a complete doc about the registers and the bits :-) |
| 13:59.44 | hrw | schurig: sure |
| 14:00.14 | hrw | ~lart frontpath for using siliconmotion gfx chip |
| 14:01.07 | CM | hehe |
| 14:04.34 | hrw | how to tell X that there is no core pointer? |
| 14:05.16 | schurig | hrw: use the void input driver |
| 14:06.14 | hrw | to have nice touchscreen under X I need to start X |
| 14:06.28 | schurig | Section "InputDevice" \n Driver "void" \n Option "CorePointer" \n EndSection |
| 14:07.21 | hrw | doing it now (had to build driver first) |
| 14:07.35 | schurig | hrw: I have a system where X doesn't know about touchscreen and mouse (because the evdev sucks in my case). So I load X this way and handle the touchscreen from userspace via XTest extension |
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| 14:12.58 | hrw | fsck. touchcal does not want to talk with touchscreen |
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| 14:17.36 | zecke | koen|uni: http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/iphone <- quite funny |
| 14:28.01 | Ifaistos | hrw : have you tried to build lirc-modules for 2.6.20 ? |
| 14:28.09 | hrw | no |
| 14:28.49 | Ifaistos | i think we have another 'victim' of the 2.6 20 api change |
| 14:34.44 | hrw | building.. |
| 14:35.48 | hrw | | make: Entering directory `/home/hrw/devel/build/progear/tmp/work/progear-angstrom-linux/lirc-modules-0.8.1-r0/lirc-0.8.1/drivers' |
| 14:35.51 | hrw | | make: *** No targets. Stop. |
| 14:40.39 | robtaylor | hrw: i've done some updates for openembedded-essential |
| 14:41.11 | XorA | where the heck is "Brussels Midi Railway station" |
| 14:42.37 | robtaylor | hrw: http://rafb.net/p/yqVGTn88.html |
| 14:42.44 | robtaylor | interested? |
| 14:43.12 | Ifaistos | hrw : same here. it outputs these messages during config -> http://rafb.net/p/NWhUbL74.html |
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| 14:44.50 | hrw | robtaylor: I do not like postinst part |
| 14:45.00 | robtaylor | hrw: why not? |
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| 14:46.12 | hrw | robtaylor: it has bad and good side. good one is that it remove problems with OE. bad one is that it change behaviuor of few apps in system |
| 14:46.58 | robtaylor | hrw: well,only if you've got GNU Interactive Tools installed |
| 14:47.09 | hrw | robtaylor: want to takeover that package? I will be glad to give it to someone else |
| 14:47.23 | robtaylor | hrw: it could be done with a Conflicts,i guess |
| 14:47.34 | robtaylor | hrw: sure, don't mind at all |
| 14:47.36 | koen|uni | and bash vs dash |
| 14:47.51 | koen|uni | fwiw, o-hand has removed a lot of bashisms from their tree |
| 14:47.58 | koen|uni | might be worth merging into OE |
| 14:48.00 | robtaylor | yeah |
| 14:48.06 | hrw | koen|uni: contra zsh, tcsh, pdksh probably too |
| 14:48.09 | robtaylor | its good to remove bashism |
| 14:48.34 | robtaylor | i'd prefer if evything could work with dash,tbh |
| 14:48.47 | koen|uni | see http://www.openembedded.org/bonsai/view/scm/6/ |
| 14:48.52 | robtaylor | though it isn't exactly bug-free |
| 14:50.02 | robtaylor | why are ohand doing their own version of oe, ooi? |
| 14:51.06 | RP | robtaylor: No company in their right mind would offer to support .dev ;-) |
| 14:51.27 | hrw | robtaylor: Poky contain very limited subset of packages |
| 14:51.35 | robtaylor | ah, i see :) |
| 14:52.00 | hrw | robtaylor: it also support only one distro (poky) and only few machines. and works out-of-box |
| 14:53.12 | CIA-3 | 03ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * rbee9b207... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 14:53.12 | CIA-3 | packages/memtester: Fix download URL for memtester_4.0.5.bb |
| 14:53.12 | CIA-3 | Add memtester_4.0.6.bb |
| 14:53.16 | CIA-3 | 03ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * rcf825d08... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): packages/modphp/modphp_5.1.6.bb: modphp requires apxs from apache2 to build. Point to the correct dir where apxs is |
| 14:53.46 | koen|uni | RP: unless that company employs 10 OE core devs ;) |
| 14:55.31 | robtaylor | RP: do you guys push up to .dev pretty regularly? |
| 14:55.46 | RP | koen|uni: Maybe when we get to 10... :). Seriously, even then to have something stable/supported, you can only have a certain number of trusted committers. I trust the OE.dev people but you can't base something commercial off it... |
| 14:56.13 | RP | robtaylor: The intent is there, it doesn't happen as often as I'd like but it does happen |
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| 14:56.34 | robtaylor | RP: herh, i assumed the intent was there.. ;) |
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| 15:00.11 | hrw | ~lart svn |
| 15:00.33 | robtaylor | ~lart monotone |
| 15:00.41 | hrw | ~lart lart |
| 15:07.36 | vlo | is this a known issue ? http://pastebin.ca/367710 |
| 15:08.00 | chouimat | morning |
| 15:08.24 | robtaylor | vlo: heh, i've just been talking about that with koen|uni |
| 15:08.48 | robtaylor | koen|uni: did building with export PKG_CONFIG_PATH = "${STAGING_LIBDIR}/pkgconfig" work? |
| 15:09.18 | vlo | robtaylor: and any idea of what's wrong here ? |
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| 15:10.02 | robtaylor | vlo: 12:35 < koen> robtaylor: the problem is insanity checks all .pc files, which in the the sanitized ones in share/pkgconfig and the broken ones in lib/pkgconfig |
| 15:11.06 | robtaylor | vlo: 12:18 < koen> robtaylor: you can get around it by removing "insane" from INHERITS in conf/distro/includes/angstrom.inc |
| 15:12.39 | Ifaistos | hrw: madwifi-ng-1871 also fails for x86 and 2.6.20. there is a new version in their cvs |
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| 15:14.27 | Ifaistos | ~me wonders if switching to 2.6.20 was a good thing... |
| 15:14.28 | ibot | moi? |
| 15:14.29 | vlo | robtaylor: thank you for the info |
| 15:15.46 | zecke | koen|uni: sure, we can disable the check |
| 15:19.15 | hvontres|poodle | Jin^eLD: Morning :) |
| 15:19.25 | Jin^eLD | hey hvontres|poodle :) |
| 15:20.00 | hvontres|poodle | Jin^eLD: Well, I never got a chance to look at that glibc stuff last night. Maybe sometime next week :( |
| 15:20.26 | Jin^eLD | me neither, maybe this weekend |
| 15:21.00 | zecke | which glibc stuff? |
| 15:21.36 | Jin^eLD | zecke: on FC6 binary locale generation fails, qemu segfaults |
| 15:21.51 | Jin^eLD | but hvontres|poodle figured its somehow related to incorrect paths/params being passed to quemu |
| 15:21.54 | Jin^eLD | something like that |
| 15:23.40 | Ifaistos | is there anyy RFC RTFM on how to set up feeds for OE based distro's ? |
| 15:23.42 | zecke | incorrect path can be, every os.path.join in glibc-package.? needs thinking |
| 15:24.10 | hrw | Ifaistos: do it like you want |
| 15:24.16 | robtaylor | hmm, pkgconfig has changed its tarball name to pkg-config |
| 15:25.17 | hvontres|poodle | zecke: it looks like somehow datadir gets set to /usr/share/, which cloobers treedir in path.join |
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| 15:27.12 | robtaylor | should i make the new bbs pkg-config, or can i set something to tell it the right unpack directory? |
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| 15:33.17 | zecke | hvontres|poodle: data = bb.getVar('${datadir}' and it starts with '/' and os.path.join is doing the rest |
| 15:33.37 | zecke | see doku's example of os.path.join in the bug tracker |
| 15:35.06 | hrw | CIA-3: speak |
| 15:40.31 | CIA-3 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r3fbc54a6... 10/ (1 classes/package.bbclass classes/rm_work.bbclass): classes: package, rm_work - fix bashisms (from Poky) |
| 15:40.35 | CIA-3 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * re00e94a7... 10/ (4 files in 4 dirs): dropbear, sysvinit, linux-nokia770: fix bashisms (from Poky) |
| 15:40.40 | CIA-3 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r0e0265da... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): contacts: update to 0.3, drop older (from poky) |
| 15:40.44 | CIA-3 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r376e54b5... 10/ (1 packages/dates/dates_0.1.bb packages/dates/dates_0.2.bb): dates: dropped 0.1 and 0.2 |
| 15:40.48 | CIA-3 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r518bf00c... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-util/util-macros_X11R7.1-1.1.5.bb): util-macros: added 1.1.5 from poky |
| 15:40.52 | CIA-3 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * reb521106... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): util-macros: added patch to get it cross compiled (from poky) |
| 15:40.56 | CIA-3 | 03ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * r59341f60... 10/ (1 packages/nmap/nmap_3.81.bb): packages/nmap/nmap_3.81.bb: Change URI to point to new download location |
| 15:41.00 | CIA-3 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rd93cbba5... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-proto/inputproto_X11R7.1-1.4.bb): inputproto: added 1.4 from poky |
| 15:41.04 | CIA-3 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r68afdf59... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-proto/xproto_X11R7.1-7.0.8.bb): xproto: added 7.0.8 from poky |
| 15:41.08 | CIA-3 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * ra1cb2529... 10/ (1 conf/bitbake.conf): bitbake.conf: add ext3 images support from poky |
| 15:41.41 | zecke | hrw: ext4 support is coming as well? |
| 15:41.46 | rob_w | is uclib also faster or just smaller ? |
| 15:42.25 | Ifaistos | that's an interesting question |
| 15:42.29 | hrw | zecke: when ext5 will be |
| 15:43.14 | zecke | rob_w: for humans it is faster to read all uclibc code than to read everything inside the glibc |
| 15:43.49 | CIA-3 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rd73a99d1... 10/ (1 packages/dhcp/dhcp_3.0.2.bb): dhcp: Fix dbg packaging and clean up hardcoded paths (from poky) |
| 15:43.53 | CIA-3 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r3eb35e8e... 10/ (1 packages/zaurus-updater/encdec-updater.bb): zaurus-updater: Fix typo in description (from poky) |
| 15:44.03 | rob_w | zecke, ah seems so |
| 15:45.53 | hvontres|poodle | zecke: I know how the path gets clobbered, but what has me confused is why is this breaking now and why '${datadir}' has a leading / |
| 15:47.31 | robtaylor | gi hrw :) |
| 15:47.41 | robtaylor | *go, i mean :) |
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| 15:48.27 | robtaylor | koen|uni: any advice on my problem above? |
| 15:49.43 | koen|uni | robtaylor: I'm afraid I missed the problem |
| 15:50.25 | robtaylor | koen|uni: oh, its ok, i just need to set S |
| 15:50.29 | VoodooZ | koen|uni: using vmware, Xen, KVM? |
| 15:50.46 | robtaylor | koen|uni: i was justhaving some problems with pkgconfig being renamed to pkg-config upstream |
| 15:50.58 | zecke | hvontres|poodle: because it has an "/" (${prefix}) |
| 15:52.00 | koen|uni | VoodooZ: Parallels desktop |
| 15:52.21 | robtaylor | koen|uni: i'm a little rusty, been too long since i last wrote a bb :) |
| 15:52.33 | pb_ | hi zecke |
| 15:53.09 | zecke | pb_: hey master, will you make it to the FOSDEM? |
| 15:53.43 | pb_ | zecke: barring unforeseen circumstances, yes. |
| 15:54.01 | pb_ | my train ticket is booked, so I need only to survive the next 24 hours without debilitating injury. |
| 15:54.30 | pb_ | heh |
| 15:55.13 | koen|uni | robtaylor: attending fosdem? |
| 15:55.25 | koen|uni | my memory is emulating a sieve quite well nowadays |
| 15:55.28 | robtaylor | koen|uni: yep :) in the samee hotel too |
| 15:55.33 | koen|uni | cool |
| 15:55.41 | koen|uni | need.... more... coffee... |
| 15:55.49 | robtaylor | koen|uni: have we actually ever met in person before? |
| 15:55.53 | zecke | koen|uni: any special sieve? |
| 15:55.57 | RP | When do people arrive tomorrow? I arrive quite early on... |
| 15:56.11 | robtaylor | RP: i'll be there round 3ish |
| 15:56.24 | zecke | RP: IIRC I will arrive at three o'clock |
| 15:56.25 | XorA | I expect Ill arrive about 17:00 I land at Charloroi at 14:35 |
| 15:56.57 | robtaylor | an, i land at 16:07 actually |
| 15:57.19 | robtaylor | RP: that sounds like waking up far too early |
| 15:57.48 | RP | robtaylor: No other choice sadly. Flight options were awful this year... |
| 15:57.59 | robtaylor | RP: eurostar ftw |
| 15:58.18 | robtaylor | RP: you get to go to the bar and drink good beer as well |
| 15:59.02 | hrw | 18:25 @BRU |
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| 16:04.26 | pb_ | XorA: that's pretty easy, you can ride the tram from gare du midi to the bourse (or de brouckere) and then walk to the Astrid. |
| 16:05.14 | XorA | pb_: wow, you just told me what 2 days searching took to find :-) they dont like tourists in brussels it seems |
| 16:06.18 | pb_ | heh |
| 16:06.40 | pb_ | you should have asked in #oe first :-) |
| 16:07.14 | Ifaistos | XorA : It's reserved for EU staff basically :) |
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| 16:07.20 | mr_nice | hi all |
| 16:08.05 | XorA | damn Ryanair flying to middle of nowwhere doesnt help |
| 16:08.12 | hvontres|poodle | koen|uni: have you ever tried scilab? |
| 16:10.50 | CIA-3 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r78dff4af... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 16:10.50 | CIA-3 | alsa-lib: Fix packaging of alsa.m4 |
| 16:10.50 | CIA-3 | * TODO: alsa-conf packages lots of unneeded stuff (like bunch of card definitions, |
| 16:10.50 | CIA-3 | not needed on handheld). Figure out and throw away. |
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| 16:13.43 | hrw | psokolovsky_: I will fix your todo then ;D |
| 16:14.23 | psokolovsky_ | hrw, please do. I just shy to leave alsa.conf only w/o comprehensive testing ;-) |
| 16:15.44 | hrw | psokolovsky_: alsa-conf, alsa-conf-base |
| 16:15.55 | psokolovsky_ | or -extra |
| 16:15.59 | RP | pb_: Any idea offhand how to get from the main airport to the Astrid? :) |
| 16:16.20 | hrw | psokolovsky_: conf is full, base is limited |
| 16:16.31 | psokolovsky_ | ok |
| 16:18.19 | pb_ | RP: you can take a train from the airport to Central or Midi, then the tram. There might be a direct bus link from the airport to somewhere near De Brouckere as well but I'm not sure. |
| 16:19.28 | RP | pb_: handy to know, thanks. Looking that up was on this afternoon's todo list :) |
| 16:22.55 | XorA | we should all take pb_ mobile number and he can talk us all in :-) |
| 16:23.11 | hrw | 3-way merges... thats the moment when I like monotone and hate subversion |
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| 16:25.05 | hrw | psokolovsky_: pushed to ewi |
| 16:25.33 | psokolovsky_ | hrw, thanks! |
| 16:26.39 | hrw | will have to push it to poky too |
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| 16:40.43 | koen | zecke: do you think I should wait with the pkgconfig change? |
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| 16:41.20 | zecke | koen: no, I just wanted to avoid the forever.... :) |
| 16:41.25 | koen | :) |
| 16:41.26 | koen | ok |
| 16:41.39 | zecke | koen: feel free to do it, feel free to disable the check inside the insane.bbclass |
| 16:42.12 | zecke | koen: Windows CE sucks bad ass, but it has a slow emulator :) |
| 16:43.26 | CIA-3 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rdcb9bef3... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): alsa-lib: ship needed configs in alsa-conf-base and rest of them in alsa-conf (backward compatibility), also added dependency on configs to library |
| 16:43.30 | CIA-3 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r7cd97172... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-base.bb): task-base: do not ship alsa-conf as this will be added as rdependency of alsa-lib |
| 16:44.42 | CIA-3 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r75bd0ba9... 10/ (1 conf/bitbake.conf): |
| 16:44.43 | CIA-3 | bitbake.conf: fix PKG_CONFIG_PATH as per RFC on the mailinglist |
| 16:44.43 | CIA-3 | * rebuild all your pkgconfig using packages |
| 16:44.43 | CIA-3 | AND/OR |
| 16:44.43 | CIA-3 | * cd <staging> ; mv share/pkgconfig/* lib/pkgconfig |
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| 16:49.25 | hillct | I wanted to get soem feedback on this: http://www.pastebin.ca/367757 |
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| 16:49.55 | hillct | Seems that MakeMaker isn't accepting the argument --host, or isn't parsing it or something |
| 16:50.29 | hrw | http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/8276/veryfreshgreens1us3.jpg |
| 16:51.05 | XorA | hrw: yummies |
| 16:51.35 | hillct | mmmm |
| 16:52.23 | zecke | a frog for free, without extra cost? |
| 16:53.23 | hillct | Protein Fortified |
| 16:54.20 | CIA-3 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r826367bb... 10/ (1 classes/insane.bbclass): insane.bbclass: only check for workdir in .pc files, we already forcefully sed out /usr/include references |
| 16:54.50 | hvontres|poodle | hrw: hehe...i wonder it the frog is "fresh and washed" too |
| 16:55.05 | hrw | cu - have to pack for fosdem |
| 16:55.40 | XorA | ok see everyone tomorrow somewhere in Brussels :-) |
| 16:55.56 | koen | hillct: your analisys seems correct |
| 16:55.59 | koen | ~spell analisys |
| 16:56.19 | XorA | analysis |
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| 16:59.01 | hillct | koen: any thoughts on why that might occur? |
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| 16:59.40 | koen | hillct: broken configure.ac, broken m4 files, full moon |
| 16:59.47 | koen | hillct: it's hard to pinpoint :( |
| 16:59.55 | hillct | I haven't yet dug into the configure script. that's my next move. Just thougt someone might have seen this before with other CPAN builds |
| 17:16.19 | koen | heh |
| 17:16.26 | koen | buildroot is applying patches from OE now :) |
| 17:18.00 | koen | it seems our unbreak-armv4t patch is da bomb |
| 17:20.27 | saladino | ade|desk did you compile the last uclibc svn ? |
| 17:20.48 | saladino | since the last update i think its broken |
| 17:20.52 | saladino | at least for me |
| 17:22.27 | ade|desk | saladino: not lately, svn broken on includes |
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| 17:22.28 | zecke | koen: nice to be able to give back :) |
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| 17:22.56 | ade|desk | undefined reference to `_errno' |
| 17:23.00 | saladino | yep |
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| 17:23.19 | ade|desk | saladino: best to track http://uclibc.org:8010/ |
| 17:24.05 | saladino | the last commit is at 13:00, but i dont know when is that at my local timezone, xD |
| 17:24.17 | koen | ade|desk: .29 after fosdem! |
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| 17:27.36 | ade|desk | koen: yeah i know, i pointed that out on here a few days ago ;) |
| 17:28.08 | koen | ade|desk: what do you think of the idea to get .29 + arm/mips ntpl patch into OE? |
| 17:29.17 | ade|desk | what sjhill+cs patch sets ? |
| 17:29.24 | ade|desk | hmmm maybe |
| 17:30.05 | koen | it would give use the ueber-uclibc |
| 17:31.28 | ade|desk | but a non compatible uclibc with any future uclibc revision |
| 17:32.25 | ade|desk | i know there is not any compat between any release, but there has been a mainly stable abi for a while, (2 years or more) |
| 17:33.32 | ade|desk | after .29 release svn will have the patches merged in head soon anyway (i think) |
| 17:33.52 | ade|desk | could be fun to play with though |
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| 17:41.18 | koen | any news on mickey|defence ? |
| 17:42.36 | Sleep_Walker | in package edje-native, there is binary file called edje-config, and later bb it fails on not finding edje-config-native - it's probably the same file and BUG in OE, am I right? |
| 17:42.50 | robtaylor | koen: ok pkgconfig 0.21 is working now |
| 17:43.43 | robtaylor | koen: buzilla? commit to mtn? |
| 17:44.18 | koen | bugzilla please |
| 17:46.14 | koen | hrw|gone: xserver-nodm-init might do the job for you |
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| 17:50.02 | zecke | JustinP: using pulseaudio in mpd is making trouble over here, it is unusable slow on my shark |
| 17:50.23 | koen | zecke: did enable the fixedpoint resampler? |
| 17:51.23 | zecke | ~seen doku |
| 17:51.48 | ibot | doku <n=doku@dsl-62-220-14-162.berlikomm.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 1d 20m 6s ago, saying: 'yep, that's what i'll do. but i have to stop for today.... bye'. |
| 17:51.49 | zecke | koen: whatever is default, will forward the question to my sith lord doku |
| 17:51.53 | koen | zecke: /etc/pulse/daemon.conf -> search for resample-method, uncomment, set to 'trivial' |
| 17:51.59 | koen | zecke: I still have't found a clean way to automagically do that for TARGET_FPU = "soft" |
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| 17:53.57 | zecke | koen: hmm a postinst script that will the daemon.conf? |
| 17:53.57 | zecke | DoKu: you are supposed to work?! |
| 17:54.07 | koen | zecke: something like that |
| 17:54.50 | koen | do_install_append() { if [ x${TARGET_FPU} == xsoft] ; then foo} ? |
| 17:55.27 | zecke | koen: alternatively write a daemon.conf.in and let autoheader fix it/generate it |
| 18:01.31 | DoKu | Actually, I do work ;) |
| 18:02.15 | zecke | DoKu: prepare for my hurricane |
| 18:02.28 | elliotf__ | does someone have a recommendation for a VERY minimal recipe? |
| 18:02.37 | elliotf__ | just busybox, basically. |
| 18:04.14 | elliotf__ | and/or how do I have bitbake generate .tgz files instead of .ipk files? |
| 18:04.25 | elliotf__ | and yes, I know I can extract the actual files from the .ipk |
| 18:04.45 | zecke | elliotf__: RTFM? or FTFM? |
| 18:05.16 | koen | FFT? |
| 18:05.21 | elliotf__ | FTFM would be nice.. |
| 18:05.28 | elliotf__ | TFM stops at "setting up OE" |
| 18:06.11 | elliotf__ | zecke: point me to documentation that you would suggest. the bulk of the tutorials/docs are "how to set up" |
| 18:06.14 | elliotf__ | rather than "how to use" |
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| 18:07.09 | zecke | elliotf__: http://www.openembedded.org/user-manual I bet something might be there (and the feel free to make a difference and send a patch) |
| 18:07.56 | elliotf__ | I'll look over it again, but after reading through it I had the feeling of "well, what next?" |
| 18:08.07 | elliotf__ | it was very good for setting up OE, but kind of stops. |
| 18:08.31 | zecke | INHERIT = "package_tar" |
| 18:09.05 | elliotf__ | thank you for the hand holding, I appreciate it. |
| 18:09.15 | elliotf__ | I'll RTFM now. |
| 18:09.18 | zecke | elliotf__: yes, what's next totally depends on you. What do you want to do? add packages, add new package formats, new rootfs format :) |
| 18:09.39 | elliotf__ | :) |
| 18:09.45 | zecke | elliotf__: I'm not sure that package formats are described in the manual, they should be there (so FTFM FixThe...) |
| 18:10.00 | elliotf__ | ah, I thought FTFM = "Find the.." |
| 18:10.01 | elliotf__ | :) |
| 18:10.14 | elliotf__ | thanks again. |
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| 18:11.01 | zecke | lrg: XorA|gone : are you coming to the LAC this year? |
| 18:12.55 | lrg | zecke: i should be :) |
| 18:13.10 | lrg | zecke: are you going ? |
| 18:13.40 | zecke | lrg: no, but I'm a local. So make sure to drop by and get some tea+biscuits ;) |
| 18:14.01 | lrg | zecke: cool, will do, thanks :-D |
| 18:19.41 | koen | zecke: http://rafb.net/p/Dj2XSE70.html ? |
| 18:22.26 | robtaylor | koen: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1903 |
| 18:22.38 | koen | robtaylor: cool, thanks? |
| 18:23.11 | zecke | koen: why would you want to do that? where should TARGET_FPU be read? |
| 18:23.11 | koen | s/?// |
| 18:23.12 | robtaylor | koen: i might try sort out some of these pkg-config issues now ;) |
| 18:23.15 | robtaylor | heh |
| 18:23.50 | koen | zecke: http://rafb.net/p/9Iduq651.html |
| 18:24.34 | zecke | koen: are you sure this export is needed |
| 18:24.44 | koen | it doesn't work without :( |
| 18:27.58 | zecke | koen: you can export it localy, or embed python code to get this var |
| 18:28.05 | robtaylor | koen: have they not released the new sampling lib yet? |
| 18:31.55 | koen | robtaylor: I'm going to wait a bit with adding pkgconfig, I don't want to accidentilly break stuff just before going away to FOSDEM |
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| 18:33.19 | robtaylor | koen: sure, i'll just work in my local tree for now |
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| 18:40.50 | koen | zecke: ok, I export it locally now |
| 18:40.53 | CIA-3 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rde732b9e... 10/ (1 packages/pulseaudio/pulseaudio_0.9.5.bb): pulseaudio: use integer resampling on FPU-less devices |
| 18:41.41 | JustinP | zecke: I never claimed that it worked :-P I never even got pulse to run correctly myself |
| 18:41.56 | JustinP | zecke: so who is "we"? (we have decided to fork mpd) |
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| 18:43.36 | sirfred | Hello |
| 18:43.43 | koen | hey sirfred |
| 18:43.48 | zecke | JustinP: DoKu and me, we have not done much in regard to forking though |
| 18:49.31 | zecke | DoKu: clockwork orange + alcohol? or fahrenheit 451 + alcohol? |
| 18:49.50 | koen | fahrenheit orange + alcohol? |
| 18:50.09 | zecke | koen: fahrenheit alcohol + 451*organge |
| 18:53.06 | hvontres|poodle | zecke: clockwork orange + THC ? |
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| 18:53.38 | VoodooZ | hvontres|poodle: hehehe |
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| 18:56.13 | florian | hi all |
| 18:57.11 | slapin_nb | psokolovsky_, bug 1904, any additional info is needed? |
| 19:07.43 | sirfred | I added bug 1869 some days ago, is there any problem with it? |
| 19:13.28 | robtaylor | OMG,i hadn't realised how many packages have fucked up pkgconfig |
| 19:13.43 | robtaylor | /usr/lib/pkgconfig/gnome-system-tools.pc:backenddir=@scriptsdir@ |
| 19:13.46 | robtaylor | nie |
| 19:14.06 | robtaylor | /usr/lib/pkgconfig/xft.pc:freetypecflags="-I/usr/include/freetype2 " |
| 19:14.09 | robtaylor | grag |
| 19:14.14 | robtaylor | (these are installed) |
| 19:19.25 | koen | robtaylor: see what I meant with "It's not that simple"? |
| 19:19.34 | robtaylor | koen: yeah :) |
| 19:19.37 | koen | robtaylor: crosscompiling makes people sad |
| 19:19.54 | robtaylor | koen: strangely only mono people get it right |
| 19:19.57 | robtaylor | go figure =) |
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| 19:21.05 | koen | heh |
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| 19:23.03 | likewise | Hello all |
| 19:24.13 | likewise | HopsNBarley: ping |
| 19:25.11 | JustinP | zecke: and DoKu is? why exactly are you forking? are the devs not responding? |
| 19:26.07 | NAiL | morning likewise |
| 19:26.13 | likewise | morning NAiL |
| 19:26.22 | zecke | JustinP: we did not fork yet, the code is disgusting and makes me cry :) |
| 19:26.34 | HopsNBarley | hi likewise, been a bit, how are ya? |
| 19:26.45 | zecke | JustinP: and it is unlikely that we will really fork |
| 19:26.51 | hvontres|poodle | zecke: so your saying it's all forked up then? |
| 19:27.35 | zecke | JustinP: doku so far has cleaned up some autoconf stuff, and has a set of patches he is too shy to push to OE |
| 19:28.39 | zecke | off to watch some movies |
| 19:29.02 | zecke | JustinP: not forked, patches were sent upstream, positive reply came back :) |
| 19:29.10 | likewise | HopsNBarley: yeah been busy with non-dev stuff lately. I am in Silicon Valley for 12 days from next tuesday |
| 19:29.36 | likewise | HopsNBarley: you? how's s/w and h/w coming along? |
| 19:30.45 | HopsNBarley | hey fantastic! Lets meet! where will you be in SV? |
| 19:31.08 | likewise | HopsNBarley: Sunnyvale. I planned on going to SF during the weekend. |
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| 19:32.54 | gremlin[it] | hi all ! |
| 19:32.54 | koen | likewise: report nice stuff you see, I'll be in santa clara in ~8 weeks from now :) |
| 19:33.02 | koen | hey gremlin[it] |
| 19:33.22 | likewise | koen: damn, we could have had a OE meeting if we timed up properly :-) |
| 19:33.32 | koen | likewise: blame CELF ;) |
| 19:34.11 | robtaylor | koen: ooh, youre heading to ELC? |
| 19:34.23 | koen | robtaylor: that's the plan |
| 19:34.39 | robtaylor | koen: cool, i'll probably be there too |
| 19:35.05 | koen | robtaylor: am I stalking you, or are you stalking me? |
| 19:35.19 | robtaylor | koen: we just don't know |
| 19:35.23 | robtaylor | =) |
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| 19:38.03 | gremlin[it] | hi psokolovsky ! |
| 19:38.51 | psokolovsky | gremlin[it], hi! |
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| 19:55.11 | gremlin[it] | psokolovsky i still continue haveig a big image ;( ... next week i try to do a complete clean and rebuild from scratch :( |
| 19:55.54 | psokolovsky | gremlin[it], current size I have is again back to 16Mb. I'm working to cut it down again. |
| 19:56.14 | gremlin[it] | mine is still 17+Mbyte :( |
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| 19:58.17 | koen | psokolovsky: I have a few ideas on how to get it smaller, but I won't have much time next week to implement those |
| 19:59.30 | gremlin[it] | koen u'll tell me and i'll do :) |
| 19:59.41 | psokolovsky | koen, nice, would need to discuss them a bit later. in the meantime, I'm working to add @base_less_or_equal() |
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| 20:19.14 | koen | hmmm |
| 20:20.08 | koen | I get this feeling we'll have a socket shortage at the OE booth |
| 20:20.17 | hrw | re |
| 20:20.23 | koen | hrw: wb |
| 20:20.27 | hrw | koen: get some if you can - I lack such stuff |
| 20:20.42 | elliotf__ | trying to do a new distro (minimal x86) and I get an following error when trying to do `bitbake bootstrap-image` that says 'Cannot find package task-base.' |
| 20:21.08 | hrw | argh.. 'bitbake task-gpe' does not build stuff |
| 20:21.20 | elliotf__ | I try bitbake task-base, and nothing is attempted to be built. |
| 20:21.27 | hrw | elliotf__: x86 machine? |
| 20:21.39 | elliotf__ | hrw: yes |
| 20:21.56 | hrw | elliotf__: how old metadata? and which distro? |
| 20:22.10 | elliotf__ | hrw: trying to define a new distro (for testing and use as a flash-based distro just for iptables/iproute2) |
| 20:22.26 | elliotf__ | hrw: updated oe an hour or so ago.. should I try to backrev? |
| 20:22.36 | hrw | nope. it should work |
| 20:22.51 | elliotf__ | hrw: some logs I should/could look at for more info? |
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| 20:23.32 | hrw | elliotf__: MACHINE="x86" DISTRO="generic"? |
| 20:23.49 | elliotf__ | hrw: DISTRO="elliotf-test01" |
| 20:24.11 | elliotf__ | I'll try the generic and see how that goes. |
| 20:24.38 | hrw | elliotf__: try 'angstrom-2007.1' as this works for sure |
| 20:24.48 | elliotf__ | hrw: angstrom is x86? |
| 20:24.50 | hrw | elliotf__: I'm running angstrom on progear (x86 webpad) |
| 20:24.53 | elliotf__ | ah. |
| 20:24.54 | elliotf__ | k. |
| 20:24.56 | hrw | elliotf__: angstrom is anything |
| 20:24.59 | elliotf__ | I'll give it a go. |
| 20:25.31 | justin__ | Hello, I want to build a kernel+rootfs for my hx4700. I am about to pull a local copy of the oe db. should I use the defaults specified in the GettingStarted Wiki? |
| 20:25.55 | hrw | justin__: MACHINE="hx4700" DISTRO="angstrom-2007.1" |
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| 20:33.31 | hillct | are bugs 1894 and 1895 setup properly? Should they be assigned to someone in particular or left as new? |
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| 20:36.20 | B_Lizzard | Hello |
| 20:36.28 | B_Lizzard | I'd like to ask a question |
| 20:36.32 | B_Lizzard | ... |
| 20:36.45 | hrw | B_Lizzard: I'd like to ask a question too |
| 20:36.55 | B_Lizzard | Is it personal? |
| 20:37.11 | hrw | you do not like personal questions? |
| 20:37.21 | B_Lizzard | Maybe a question of sexual prefference? |
| 20:37.37 | B_Lizzard | Is that a personal question you just made? |
| 20:38.06 | hrw | ok. so I asked one question. you asked 3 but wanted 1. so you reached limit. |
| 20:38.07 | hrw | ;D |
| 20:38.16 | B_Lizzard | Game Over |
| 20:38.18 | B_Lizzard | :D |
| 20:38.53 | B_Lizzard | So, I was wondering if I can refer to "Packages" files through another "Packages" file |
| 20:39.03 | hrw | no |
| 20:39.51 | B_Lizzard | Say I've made a feed where I've made alphabetical folders, packages inside, and the "Packages" file split for each letter, do I still need the big central one? |
| 20:40.08 | B_Lizzard | Which refers to all packages? |
| 20:40.25 | hrw | no need - you just got lot of feeds instead |
| 20:40.34 | B_Lizzard | I was thinking I could improve performance by splitting the Packages file... |
| 20:40.44 | B_Lizzard | Hmmmm |
| 20:40.52 | hrw | B_Lizzard: ipkg read all anyway at once |
| 20:41.00 | B_Lizzard | Aha.... |
| 20:41.22 | B_Lizzard | So, no performance gain, eh.... |
| 20:41.32 | B_Lizzard | Thanks for the quick answers, hrw |
| 20:41.36 | hrw | np |
| 20:41.40 | B_Lizzard | They're very much appreciated |
| 20:44.45 | hrw | gpe-dm on XGA looks weird |
| 20:45.38 | hrw | YEAH! gpe on progear! |
| 20:45.41 | elliotf__ | hrw: angstrom fails to build, complaining that 'kernel 2.6.17 is too old' during package glibc-intermediate-2.5-r4: task do_configure: failed |
| 20:45.54 | hrw | elliotf__: update metadata |
| 20:45.59 | elliotf__ | mokay. |
| 20:46.06 | elliotf__ | as in, update oe (via mtn)? |
| 20:46.18 | hrw | yes |
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| 20:46.29 | elliotf__ | already up to date |
| 20:47.17 | hrw | elliotf__: mtn pull;mtn update |
| 20:47.23 | elliotf__ | yeah, doing a pull now. |
| 20:48.29 | elliotf__ | I'm also building a generic x86 task-base |
| 20:51.28 | apaulsen | is anyone else having trouble building the current e2fsprogs-native? Something is pulling it in after my latest mtn update and it won't build because it can't find fsck |
| 20:52.13 | hrw | hmm thats probably be me |
| 20:52.28 | apaulsen | I have an -r6 and -r7 that built in the past, but -r8 fails |
| 20:52.53 | apaulsen | and the ViewMTN repository is locked again so I can't see what changed |
| 20:55.20 | koen | mtn log <file> --no-merges | more ? |
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| 20:58.13 | gerwinin | Koen: Hoe ga jij naar de fosdem ? |
| 20:58.34 | koen | gerwinin: trein |
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| 21:04.51 | hrw | koen: can you upload to scap.ltg? |
| 21:05.10 | koen | hrw: anyone can with gpe-scap |
| 21:05.16 | koen | dunno how to do it by hand |
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| 21:05.39 | hrw | koen: does not work for me |
| 21:05.51 | hrw | koen: gpe-scap say that he cannot upload |
| 21:06.04 | koen | I had a similar error on tuesday |
| 21:06.12 | koen | I though it was my network being messed up |
| 21:06.16 | hrw | 'error uploading screenshot: unable to upload screenshot (2)' |
| 21:07.19 | B_Lizzard | THERE'S BUTTER ON MY FACE! |
| 21:09.07 | gremlin[it] | ok suitcase closed ... :) |
| 21:09.14 | apaulsen | Looks like e2fsprogs was updated to install a bunch of fsck tools. e2fsprogs-native requires e2fsprogs and tries to install tools that don't exist |
| 21:09.25 | hrw | apaulsen: kind of |
| 21:09.36 | apaulsen | ok, any idea on how to fix it? |
| 21:10.50 | hrw | looking at it |
| 21:13.44 | hrw | working on it |
| 21:15.45 | hrw | koen: galculator on XGA is funny |
| 21:15.52 | elliotf__ | hrw: did a pull, moved the conf/distro out of the way and restored it via mtn, the build is still b0rked. |
| 21:16.14 | hrw | elliotf__: build linux-libc-headers 2.6.18 |
| 21:16.29 | elliotf__ | hrw: bitbake, or build? |
| 21:17.04 | elliotf__ | the funny thing is that it's looking for >= 2.6.17, and they should be there. |
| 21:17.09 | hrw | with bitbake |
| 21:17.27 | apaulsen | hrw: thanks |
| 21:18.10 | hrw | fixed, pushing |
| 21:18.18 | elliotf__ | hrw: why not just lower the requirement of the kernel? (I'm building 2.6.18) |
| 21:19.41 | elliotf__ | glibc-intermediate managed to configure |
| 21:19.53 | elliotf__ | still kind of weird. |
| 21:20.18 | elliotf__ | hrw: is there logic behind that, that I'm not understanding? it seems rather weird. |
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| 21:23.13 | CIA-3 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r78bf60d0... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): e2fsprogs: dropped old versions |
| 21:23.20 | CIA-3 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * re09470e6... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): e2fsprogs: unbreak -native version, move common code to .inc from 1.38.bb |
| 21:23.27 | justin__ | is org.openembedded.dev the branch I should use if my target is an hx4700? |
| 21:23.36 | hrw | yes |
| 21:23.51 | hrw | apaulsen: pull/update/build |
| 21:23.53 | justin__ | previously they recommended oz354fam083 for some reason |
| 21:24.06 | hrw | justin__: oz354fam083 is over year dead |
| 21:24.35 | justin__ | what exactly is angstrom-2007.1? |
| 21:24.40 | hrw | distro |
| 21:24.54 | justin__ | Can i run GPE with it? |
| 21:24.59 | hrw | you can |
| 21:25.05 | hrw | I have gpe on my progear/angstrom now |
| 21:25.08 | justin__ | How is it compared to fam084? |
| 21:25.44 | hrw | better, newer, faster |
| 21:25.44 | justin__ | awesome. i'll give it a try |
| 21:25.44 | Sleep_Walker | and working :) |
| 21:26.24 | hrw | At FOSDEM progear will show Angstrom/GPE |
| 21:26.39 | gremlin[it] | WOW |
| 21:26.53 | gremlin[it] | i'll see ... |
| 21:27.13 | gremlin[it] | g'night gotta sleep tomorrow have to wakeup a bit early ... |
| 21:27.15 | gremlin[it] | bye bye |
| 21:27.37 | likewise | cu |
| 21:27.49 | gremlin[it] | for real this time ;) |
| 21:29.25 | apaulsen | hrw: seems to work now |
| 21:31.03 | hillct | NAiL: structurally, what's the more sound approach when building a recipie? I have a CPAN Makefile.PL which calls gnu autoconf. Should I: inherit 'autotools cpan' and expect them not to collide? Does the order in which they're inherited make a difference in which overrides the other? can I still get at oe_runconf from the autotools class after the cpan class is inherited? What's the best practice in this case? |
| 21:31.59 | hrw | hillct: order matter iirc |
| 21:32.12 | hrw | hillct: try both? |
| 21:32.22 | hillct | heh |
| 21:32.36 | hillct | Just trying to avoid beating my head against the wall. |
| 21:33.21 | hillct | looking at each of the classes, it looks like I'd be better off inheriting autotools and incorporating the elements i need from the cpan class into my .bb file manually |
| 21:33.55 | hillct | I'm sure reproducing classes like this is frowned upon, but it seems the clearner approach at this point |
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| 22:18.55 | justin__ | yay! gpe-image is being built now... can't wait to try out this new angstrom distro & hx4700 wifi. thanks for your help hrw |
| 22:19.18 | hrw | np |
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| 22:41.58 | CoreDump|home | hi |
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| 23:03.33 | psokolovsky | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:03.42 | psokolovsky | oops |
| 23:04.33 | hvontres|poodle | hey CoreDump|home :) |
| 23:04.44 | CoreDump|home | heya hvontres|poodle |
| 23:04.52 | hvontres|poodle | I guess traffic here is gonna be pretty slow this weekend :) |
| 23:04.58 | CoreDump|home | indeed |
| 23:05.00 | RP | hvontres|poodle: yes :) |
| 23:05.59 | hvontres|poodle | RP: hey there :) Have you ever tried modifying the kernel command line inside of the zImage file? |
| 23:06.23 | RP | hvontres|poodle: No, I'd just recompile it ;-) |
| 23:07.25 | hvontres|poodle | RP: heh. I was just thinkig about a good way to have linux-rp build two zImages for the same machine with different cmd lines in one pass |
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| 23:11.06 | robtaylor | philippe|away: ping |
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| 23:42.50 | hvontres|poodle | bye y'all. time to go home :) |
| 23:43.39 | woglinde | nite hvontres |
| 23:44.33 | hvontres|poodle | Have a good time at FOSDEM. |
