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00:38.24hillctI've been fighting with this recipe all afternoon. I'm down to one last error. Any guidance would be appreciated: http://www.pastebin.ca/368351
00:40.09NAbysshillct: My guess would be that ${STAGING_DIR}/${TARGET_SYS} isn't set when INCLUDEPATH is evaluated
00:41.10hillctok. actually the behavior is identical when that var is not set at all
00:41.19hillctLemme try moving it around a bit...
00:44.46hillctthat line seems to have no impact no matter where it's placed
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01:41.43joshinBah, python is trying to pull in dietx11
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02:31.36psokolovsky~/linux-ppc/bitbake/bin/bitbake gtk-engines -c rebuild
02:31.55psokolovskyIOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/home/pfalcon/linux-ppc/build-oe-angstrom/tmp/staging/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/share/pkgconfig/gtk+-2.0.pc'
02:32.11psokolovskyjust fyi, have no idea if it's on my side
03:37.11elliotf__how do I go about using a different .config for the kernel in openembedded..
03:37.26elliotf__I can't find the package source that build the kernel-image package
03:38.41elliotf__do I just tack kernel-module-tulip onto RDEPENDS?
03:38.42NAbysselliotf__: Look in org.openembedded.dev/packages/linux/ for the kernel .bb you're using.. there should be associated defconfig-machine files
03:39.05elliotf__NAbyss, thanks, I saw that, but can't figure out which one I'm using..  I'm using conf/distro/generic.conf
03:39.07elliotf__on x86
03:39.19elliotf__how do I determine which one was used to build the package?
03:39.32NAbyssIf you just want to add files to the image (and they're already being compiled as modules).. just do that to the image .bb - RDEPENDS += "kernel-module-foo"
03:39.53elliotf__thanks, I'll give that a go
03:43.20elliotf__NAbyss, it looks like the package namespace for kernel modules is flat...
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03:43.35elliotf__nm, I'll just try it.
03:43.51wm_eddieThe second one is pretty fun.
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03:52.56elliotf__what do I need to bitback in order to get the kernel image??
03:53.05elliotf__or do I need to bootstrap-image?
03:58.27elliotf__blegh, trying bootstrap-image again
03:59.05elliotf__I see that there is a '.../classes/kernel.bbclass' but that doesn't seem to help.
04:25.36elliotf__found it.
04:26.22elliotf__as you said, there is a '.../packages/linux/linux-x86-2.6.17.9/defconfig'
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06:33.27hvontres|homemickey|zzZZzz: Congratulatoins on a succesfull defese :)
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07:25.19do13_morning all
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07:30.25vlomorning all
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07:46.19koenOMG PYTHON NEEDS X11!!!!!!
07:46.25koenoh, wait
07:46.34koenbuild time dep, not runtime dep
07:47.03hvontres|homekoen: have you been hanging out with the script kiddies again ???
07:47.12koenYeah
07:47.36koenhvontres|home: http://xkcd.com/c227.html
07:49.49hvontres|homekoen: hehe.. already saw it... I have xkcd on rss, along with ctrl-alt-del and Questionable content :)
07:50.08koen:)
07:50.25koenI have a QC poster on my toilet
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07:50.47koenhttp://www.questionablecontent.net/shirts/goodpoopin.png <- that one
07:51.09hvontres|homekoen: The only problem was that I got busted at work the first day I found it... 3 years is a lot of comics
07:51.21koenheh
07:52.43hvontres|homekoen: say hi to the gang tonight :) especialy "Dr" Lauer :)
07:54.17koenhe made it?
07:54.53hvontres|homehttp://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/2007/02/22/offence-is-the-best-defence/
07:55.37hvontres|homekoen: He still needs to get published to make it official, but apperently he survived :)
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07:56.47hvontres|homekoen : well, have fun in brussels. I need to go pack for my Vegas trip tomorrow.
07:56.59koenhave fun in vegas
08:04.03hvontres|homekoen: Sure. I'll be sparring in my first Taekwondo Tournament. The good news is all my opponents will be old geezer beginners like me :)
08:04.43koendon't forget to wear the chest protector
08:05.15hvontres|homekoen: hehe..np. And my CUP :)
08:05.28koenright :)
08:05.46koenI learned that the hard way
08:06.02hvontres|homeHow far did you get?
08:06.14koenbrown belt in shotokan karate
08:07.10hvontres|homeNot bad... I'm a Camo belt (4th rank up from the bottom) right now. Should actually be nice not to be sparring those old Black belts for a change.
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08:19.18hrw|gonekoen: packed?
08:19.50hrw|gonekoen: python for angstrom/i686 needs rebuilding
08:25.07koenhrw|gone: almost packed
08:25.30hrw|gonekoen: gpe is running on progear so we will have something to show
08:25.37koenah, cool
08:25.41hrw|gonetoo bad that gtk/glib situation in angstrom is too fscked
08:25.58koenI wonder what happened
08:26.12hrw|gonegpe-scap does not work locally
08:26.56hrw|gonefluxbox fails ;(
08:27.56hrw|goneand matchbox is not so nice on xga
08:29.59hrw|gonecu @fosdem
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08:33.21zeckecan someone bring loudspeakers to the fosdem?
08:36.16koensorry, no
08:38.59zeckekoen: when is florian going to leave?
08:39.21zeckekoen: I have a set of passive speakers, but well they are passive
08:40.17koenno idea
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09:19.30LuckyBastardcheers guys
09:22.07koenLuckyBastard: congrats!
09:22.14LuckyBastard:D
09:22.15LuckyBastardthanks!
09:22.18LuckyBastardthanks also for the SMS
09:23.01koenI was getting a bit worried yesterday when we didn't hear anything
09:23.14koenLuckyBastard: congratulations from Nynke as well
09:23.21mickeylthanks and greetings back!
09:23.38ade|desklo all
09:23.47mickeyldefence took until 16:00 and then we went downstairs to party for some hours
09:23.55ade|deski guess you did ok then mickeyl, congratulations
09:24.05mickeylade|desk: yep, thanks :)
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09:24.51ade|deskmickeyl: is your thesis online as a dvi or such ?
09:25.39mickeylade|desk: I'll submit it for publication once I'm back from FOSDEM and then I'll upload it to my site as well
09:25.52ade|deskmickeyl: cool :)
09:25.58ade|deski fancy a good read
09:26.01mickeylgood. Dirk, Holger, Marcin, and me will be in the Astrid ~19:00
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09:26.17mickeylade|desk: if can handle german, then absolutely, yes ;)
09:26.21mickeylcheers liam
09:26.40do13_mickeyl: congrats
09:26.44koenmickeyl: iirc marcin will be at the station at 18:30
09:26.45mickeylthanks Dirk :))
09:26.53do13_hi Liam
09:27.02koenhey Dirk & Liam
09:27.08mickeylkoen: hmm he talked about being at the airport at 18.30
09:27.14ade|deskmickeyl: doh, i guess i'll need to read it at a friend's house
09:27.15do13_mickeyl: do you got my mail?
09:27.16koenmickeyl: ah, that makes sense
09:27.19do13_hi Koen
09:27.22mickeyldo13: yep. answered already.
09:27.48mickeyldo13: in short, i propose meeting @ 16:00 in B/LH Quick Check. if we don't immediately see each other, just phone
09:27.53koenmickeyl: I'll head to the astrid, checking, dump bags and read a book in the lobby
09:27.54mickeyldo13: 0177 261 64 64 is mine
09:28.13koens/checking/check in/
09:28.14mickeylkoen: ok, cool. meet ya there and then we can wander to the Roy
09:28.31do13_mickeyl: ok
09:28.50koenwith a stop at the döner shop :)
09:29.34mickeylsounds like a plan!
09:29.57do13_mickeyl: time to change your mail signature: Dr ... :-)
09:30.08mickeyldo13: hehe. unfortunately the thing is...
09:30.27mickeyluntil yesterday i was obliged to say "no sorry i am not" if someone called me Dr.
09:30.34mickeylsince yesterday i no longer need to deny it, _but_
09:30.38mickeyli'm not yet allowed to call myself
09:30.44mickeyllaws *sigh*
09:31.07mickeylafter publication and reception of the certificate, i can do that
09:32.38koenmickeyl: can we abuse a part of sunday night/monday morning to discuss merging moko svn and oe ?
09:34.00mickeylkoen: sure thing
09:35.39bluelightningmickeyl: congratulations :D
09:35.45mickeylthanks :))
09:36.26mickeyladrenalin is slowly getting out of my body
09:36.49bluelightningmickeyl: I'll bet :)
09:37.09bluelightningtime to replace it with alcohol perhaps :)
09:37.13mickeylhehe
09:37.19mickeyli would if i was feeling 100% healthy
09:37.30mickeyldue to the stress i think i catched a bit of a cold which is developing atm.
09:37.36bluelightningdoh
09:37.36mickeylso i need to be a bit careful with Leffe Brun
09:38.32mickeylbut it's ok. nothing can really annoy me atm. :)
09:39.17bluelightning:)
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09:41.52psokolovskyCongrats mickeyl! Hope you'll have more time for OpenMoko and other cool stuff now ;-)
09:42.34mickeylpsokolovsky: thanks. Absolutely, yes. March will be a tough month for me since I have an additional 4 week contract w/ non-OpenMoko stuff, but other than that I'm devoted to turning all this into a kick-ass platform now
09:43.03mickeylcan't wait to pick up stuff like EFL++ and Angstrom again
09:43.12mickeyland also the OE Frontend stuff
09:43.15mickeylah that reminds me
09:43.50mickeylRP: any chance we can demo ncurses-bitbake?
09:51.53koenI can demo a cursing bitbake
09:51.53mickeylhehehe
09:51.54mickeylthat's not the same
09:53.55ade|deskkoen : just do it N-tuple like cursing
09:55.58koennote to self: Do not encourage people from India to be lazy when propagandizing OE on L-A-K
09:56.00ade|deskTourette esk perhaps
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12:36.05koen|traingnuplot has a cairo terminal, sweet
12:36.25gerwininKoen: you are in the train already :)
12:36.35koen|traingerwinin: yes
12:36.51gerwininKoen: I will be driving with Likewise
12:37.16gerwininKoen: I think we will arrive around  8
12:37.46gerwininKoen: Are you on gprs or something ?
12:37.55koen|trainEDGE to be exact
12:38.13gerwininKoen : Awesome :)
12:40.28do13_mickeyl: ping
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12:45.36mickeylpöng
12:45.58mickeyldo13_: at your service
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12:47.05do13_mickeyl: http://www.hr-online.de/website/rubriken/nachrichten/stau_info2336.jsp?rubrik=2336&strasse=A5
12:47.15do13_mickeyl: Umleitung yes or no?
12:47.38mickeylUmleitung yes
12:47.51mickeylit's not much of a loss via 661 and 3
12:47.58mickeyland less prone get a Stau
12:48.02mickeyltraffice jam, even
12:48.08do13_mickeyl: thx
12:48.11mickeylnp
12:48.16do13_later
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12:49.47B_LizzardWow, the irssi package is a torn-personality
12:49.53B_Lizzard...
12:50.18B_LizzardIt states glib-1.2 in DEPENDS, and then has "--with-glib2" in EXTRA_OECONF
12:50.28B_LizzardSo, which will it be?
12:50.52B_LizzardOh, and "--without-glib1"
12:51.11B_LizzardSo I guess a change in DEPENDS is in order?
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13:02.25gerwininMickeyL : go via ternat
13:02.44gerwininEn don't go via 't Welriekende dreef :)
13:06.22mickeylwe're flying anyway
13:06.41mickeyli don't think i have a chance to influence the course
13:08.52gerwininmickeyl lucky you
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13:08.59mickeylhehe
13:09.05gerwininMickeyl : we are comming by car
13:09.17gerwininMickeyl : Are you guys going to the beer event ?
13:09.28mickeylyou bet
13:09.39mickeylwe'll be there ~ 20:00 or so
13:10.03gerwininFor me it is very funny I am already with oe for three or four years but never met you or zecke in realitiy
13:10.42gerwinin:) and now I am gonna see all of you guys
13:14.43mickeylhehe, yeah, that's cool
13:16.05mickeylcya in a couple of hours
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13:27.49B_LizzardFOSDEM, eh?
13:27.52B_Lizzard:)
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13:37.59mmpgibbon_: hello:)
13:38.02mmpsorry:)
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14:47.18Jin^eLDquestion... for example, I am developing some software for my embedded board, so I constantly change something and want to recompile and test on the target; there of course it is not really convenient to make a tar or whatever and bitbake the .bb file each time
14:47.41Jin^eLDis there any "dev" mode, that would autoreconf the package for my machine/distro and allow me to work directly, without bitbaking each time?
14:48.24psokolovskyJin^eLD, that's how bitbake works anyway
14:48.42Jin^eLDhuh?
14:48.54NAbyssNot really afaik.. The crosscompiler is setup in the environment too
14:49.04Jin^eLDhmm
14:49.25Jin^eLDwould be nice to somehow be able to inherit the environment in a shell or something
14:49.29psokolovskyJin^eLD, bitbake doesn't buidl anything. it prepares execution plan in the form of shell script and just runs it.
14:49.38NAbyssYou may be able to hack up a makefile, but it's not directly supported as far as I know
14:49.51psokolovskyJin^eLD, you can run it too. learn what's inside your tmp/work/
14:50.09Jin^eLDI thought about that, the problem with tmp/work is that it gets wiped out so easily
14:50.30psokolovskyJin^eLD, only by your command
14:50.47Jin^eLDusually if you checked out from svn, then you work with your local copy and want to test it.. and once you are sure it works you commit the changes
14:50.56NAbyssCopy it elsewhere? Chattr =iuS?
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14:51.23Jin^eLDso instead of working directly in tmp/work it would be cool to point to some other place
14:51.44psokolovskyJin^eLD, well, development and hacking/patching are different things. you can do the seconf with OE pretty easily. as for 1st, YMMV
14:52.00Jin^eLDwell thats the thing..
14:52.11xumbican I specify a specific version of a package in DISTRO_EXTRA_RDEPENDS?  I tried adding package-1.2.3, but that failed
14:52.50Jin^eLDxumbi: I think it's PREFERRED_VERSION_package="1.2.3"
14:52.53NAbyssTry using package = 1.2.3
14:53.16xumbi8Jin^eLD: ah, right, I thought it might be something like that
14:53.35Jin^eLD...and then the ...RDEPENDS += package should take the version you want..
14:53.52Jin^eLDanyway.. well, how do you guys develop stuff?
14:54.11Jin^eLDthere was one approach, but it used scons which I do not like
14:54.21Jin^eLDthere the script pointed to the OE cross dir for the compiler, and to the staging dir
14:54.32Jin^eLDand you could basically run "scons" each time and develop in any directory
14:54.34Jin^eLDso it was handy..
14:54.50Jin^eLDbasically I am looking for something similar, but using autotools
14:55.10Jin^eLDand since OE already has much of it in place I was figuring that there was maybe a way to use it for dev too
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15:31.54oxohi there
15:33.46oxooh, wait, I see this is not the apriopriate place for my question..
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15:35.00chouimatmorning
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15:58.15lrghey CosmicPenguin
15:59.21CosmicPenguinfun
16:01.07GerrathI've been looking at the files in the -dbg packages and have noticied the files are smaller in the -dbg than in the regular package.  I guess I had assumed the -dbg was the libs with the symbol files compiled in and would expect them to be larger not smaller.
16:01.18CosmicPenguinI obviously am not - you people need to buy more AMD processors.. :)
16:02.21Gerrathwhat is really in the -dbg files then?
16:03.02chouimatGerrath: only the debug symbol they stripped the executable code iirc
16:03.32Gerrathchouimat that is what I thought.. so if your using gdb is there some way to combine the files back together?
16:04.35chouimatGerrath: don't know never used this
16:05.12Gerrathchouimat, niether have I but I'm trying to support an app programmer who wants to use gdb on our embedded system :-/
16:05.29pH5Gerrath: look at the runstrip() function in package.bbclass. As far as I know, gdb looks for the debug information in .debug/foo automatically.
16:05.35pH5I don't know how to put them back together, either.
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16:10.42chouimatGerrath: if I understand correctly you don't need to because the executable contain a point to the debug symbol file (I can be wrong on this one)
16:15.11pH5chouimat: you are right, the objcopy --add-gnu-debuglink takes care of this
16:16.06chouimatpH5: thanks you just made my day better ... it's fun to have a nice comment once in a while ;)
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16:26.33Orkiehi
16:27.40Orkiedoes anybody know how to erase the bad block table from a nand using the u-boot prompt? i want the manufacturer's table left in tact, but i reckon it's been misidentifying some of the blocks on my nand as bad when i've been fiddling
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16:53.00nosnilmotHi, I'm trying to build for mipsel, build fails with "configure: error: compiler support for __thread is required" when trying to build glibc-intermediate-2.5 - does anyone have any hints?
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17:20.49j_tHello. When building angstrom-gpe-image, I received a QA issue when attempting to install udev_092
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17:21.45j_tThe error is ERROR: QA issue: libvolume_id.pc failed sanity test (reference to /usr/include or workdir)
17:22.17j_tThis is based on the dev branch which I downloaded yesterday morning
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17:46.50j_tI found a similar bug in the bugtracker (1884)... i guess its a known issue. I'll just use the work around
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17:52.49HopsNBarleyso, everybody on their way to FOSDEM?
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17:59.31Jin^eLDI'd really like to.. but not going :(
17:59.40summatusmentiswhere is FOSDEM?
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18:02.59Jin^eLDI think in Belgium
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18:10.53Zero_Chaoscan I add something to a bitbake file to cause something to be built statically?
18:19.44Jin^eLDZero_Chaos: I guess that depends on what kind of stuff it is, you could try to add -static to cxx/cflags
18:20.24Zero_Chaoswould that allow something to work across multiple glibc versions?
18:20.44Jin^eLDuhh.. I think no
18:20.57Jin^eLDI never tried
18:21.06Jin^eLDwell, I guess I do not know for sure :)
18:21.13Zero_Chaosbut if compiled statically it shouldn't require the host system to have the same glibc just the same arch
18:21.20Zero_Chaosif I am not mistaken
18:22.01Jin^eLDI am not sure; I have a vague memory that there was something glibc related even with static stuff, but I may be wrong
18:22.51Zero_Chaosbut adding -static to flags should make it static? that simple?
18:23.27Jin^eLDactually yes; but you of course have to be sure that you have all appropriate static libraries you want to link against
18:23.28Jin^eLD.a stuff
18:24.21Zero_Chaosand to prevent stripping?
18:25.10Jin^eLDhmm
18:25.37Jin^eLDI think I did compile a static package once, I do not remember that I did anything related to stripping
18:26.52Zero_Chaosoe auto-strips
18:26.56Zero_ChaosI want to stop that
18:27.08Jin^eLDsorry, no idea how to prevent that
18:27.43Zero_ChaosJin^eLD: thanks for the static idea.  I'll wait for someone else for stripping
18:28.39Jin^eLDnp
18:28.44Zero_ChaosAnyone can tell me how to prevent oe from stripping the compile program?
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18:32.37Zero_Chaosokay, can I make a specific .bb build against uclibc instead of the normal glibc?
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18:35.30Zero_Chaoswill adding TARGET_OS to the .bb do it?
18:38.10Orkiestripping static binaries is fine
18:38.41Orkiei've built loads of static binaries which are stripped and they work perfectly :)
18:38.43Zero_ChaosOrkie: I figured that out, but static linking against glibc is big, I want to uclibc a specific package
18:39.14Orkieuclibc programs always segfaults for me...
18:40.03Zero_Chaosthat isn't an issue with the program I am using
18:56.07VoodooZis gthread a good library for coding multithreaded apps?
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19:03.04cbrakeVoodooZ: I've been pretty happy with glib in general.  Provides lots of useful stuff.
19:03.19cbrakeVoodooZ: I like the queues for inter thread communication.
19:04.01cbrakeVoodooZ: maybe you are not talking about glib ...
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19:07.46Jin^eLDcbrake: beware of glibc atomic stuff, it compiles for arm but it does not work correctly there
19:07.57Jin^eLDaem
19:08.00Jin^eLDnot glibc
19:08.00Jin^eLDglib I mean
19:11.07VoodooZcbrake: I'm not sure actually, I'm just wondering what people use for coding multi-threaded apps. Isn't glib for graphics???
19:11.30Zero_Chaosyeah
19:11.35VoodooZok.
19:11.47VoodooZSo is gthread a high-level threading lib then?
19:11.56Zero_Chaosno clue
19:12.02VoodooZgoogle didn
19:12.10VoodooZgoogle wasn't clear.
19:16.41cbrakeJin^eLD: good to know -- we have not had any problems with async queues, but we should probably test.
19:16.59Jin^eLDcbrake: I figured that out when we were looking for atomic code, we needed it for our reference counting
19:17.27Ifaistoskoen : have a look at this -> http://rafb.net/p/PspO3o25.html
19:17.28cbrakeVoodooZ: glib does not have any graphical components -- it is a general purpose utility app.  I would definitely consider using it on any system -- GUI or not.
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19:18.13Ifaistoskoen : its from a clean build of angstrom
19:18.13cbrakeVoodooZ: take a look at the API, and you pretty quickly get an idea: http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.0/glib/index.html
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19:21.32cbrakeVoodooZ: IOChannels in glib are also pretty neat: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8545
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19:50.52VoodooZcbrake: cool. thanks. I'll use it for my robot code then...
19:53.28VoodooZdo you know if glib takes advantage of NPTL and/or linuxthreads?
19:56.30cbrakeVoodooZ: I assume it sits on top of NPTL/linuxthreads, but never walked the code.
20:01.14VoodooZyeah, I guess it's a good thing as it will obfuscate away the implementation details this way my code will work the same once I move to NPTL
20:06.10cbrakeVoodooZ: I think the api for NPTL/linuxthreads is the same, just the implementation under the hood is different.  But, I've not coded much at that level.
20:08.35VoodooZok. I'll keep reading.. Thanks.
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