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05:01.59CIA-1103rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r921c450e... 10/ (5 files in 4 dirs): gpstk: Open source libraries and applications to facilitate working with GPS data for research and high accuracy uses.
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07:19.23humsatmorn :)
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08:24.49gremlin[it]hi alll i have a zaurus 3000 now :) ...
08:25.34koengremlin[it]: I bet is faster as your h3600 :)
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08:26.05gremlin[it]somebody know how to open the powersupply of an compaq ipaq ...
08:26.46gremlin[it]it have a pxa270 ... it have to be fast with OE !!! with the original rom as now seem a bit slow ;)
08:26.57koenin the ipaq or the powerbrick?
08:27.29gremlin[it]i need to open the powerbrick ...
08:29.09gremlin[it]it seem  to be closed by fusision or glue :(
08:34.07bluelightninggremlin[it]: power packs like that are usually glued or moulded shut and quite difficult to open :/
08:34.31koengremlin[it]: btw, you can charge the Z with your ipaq brick and vice-versa
08:34.52bluelightningone way I've used is to use a hammer to crack the seal, but it usually ends up cracking the case as well
08:38.06gremlin[it]yes yes ... but now i have two (one form the ipaq h3800 and one from zaurus) power supply with US plug shape ... but no one seem to work :(
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08:59.52sirfredmorning
09:01.07sirfredgremlin[it]: I'm using my h3600 AC adaptor for my zaurus c760, if you are interested. The AC adaptor packaged with the zaurus was only for 120 V, AFAIR.
09:05.29gremlin[it]no i have already the multivoltage one for zaurus ...
09:05.57sirfredgremlin[it]: ok
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09:08.03sirfredHmm, I think that jffs2 IMAGE_CMD in zaurus-clamshell.conf is buggy. It doesn't pass eraseblock option to mkfs.jffs2. I expect that to be the cause of my husky hunging while booting
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09:22.36CIA-1103koen 07org.oe.dev * r1889b23e... 10/ (1 packages/gpstk/gpstk_1.2.bb):
09:22.36CIA-11gpstk: add a custom do_install
09:22.36CIA-11* the autotools based system doesn't build everything
09:22.36CIA-11* only a static libgpstk is created
09:22.36CIA-11* somehow strip fails, leaving us with a 9.5MB big gpstk-bin package
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09:41.45koensirfred: using an image with -e ?
09:42.26sirfredkoen: Yes, I've changed zaurus-clamshell.conf to pass EXTRA_IMAGECMD to the mkfs.jffs2 command
09:42.49sirfredI'm firs trying with the summary image, as 2.6.20 should have support for that.
09:43.27sirfredGreat. It mounted and found init
09:44.02koenso zaurus-clamshell.conf really is buggy
09:44.24sirfredI felt a little nervous, as with the summary image, the progress dots in the update screen surpassed the 100% mark.
09:44.27sirfredkoen: I think so.
09:44.38sirfredkoen: I can fill a bug report and send the patch.
09:45.08sirfredFirst time I got an openzaurus-3.5.5 image up.
09:47.03sirfredCurious, it died after calibrate gpe screen
09:48.41sirfredHumm, again. The new user screen shows for a second, and it goes black inmediatly.
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09:52.11mrdatahi all
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09:53.17mr_nicemrdata: hi
09:53.28sirfredHmm, this summary image I've generated is 31Mb size. Perhaps I've overwritten something
09:53.46mrdatamr_nice: hi
09:54.11mr_nicemrdata: do you know if I am able to give a compiled in module an argument on kernel init?
09:55.06mrdatamr_nice: over the kernel command line, i think
09:56.02mr_nicemrdata: I will try it thx
09:56.42mrdatamr_nice: i use this to overwrite the default flash partition schema
09:57.42gremlin[it]good ... as i suppose .. keeping the zaurus in japanese help me a lot to practice my japanese ... in half a day i'm re-able to read hiragana and katakana :) ...
09:59.11mr_nicemrdata: do you know what the max_charge is good for? http://pastebin.ca/408987
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10:00.50koenrwhitby: eds-dbus
10:00.59rwhitbyyep, testing that now
10:02.59sirfredHmm, it seems I'm broken something with that 31Mb jffs2 image
10:05.28mrdatamr_nice: i have no real idea, for what we should use max_charge
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10:06.05CIA-1103rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * ree9cf209... 10/ (1 packages/openmoko-pim/openmoko-today_svn.bb): openmoko-today: Added missing eds-dbus build time dependency.
10:06.09CIA-1103rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r5df32e09... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/openmoko.inc): openmoko.inc: Added PREFERRED_PROVIDER_gtk+ like in angstrom.
10:06.24mrdatamr_nice: we have only three values -> vbatt;vcharger;icharger
10:06.25koenrwhitby: when I added -today it didn't depend on eds-dbus
10:06.41rwhitbykoen: nod
10:07.02rwhitbythe svn dependencies may change fairly rapidly I expect
10:07.50mr_nicemrdata: also I didn't see any function which uses the CALIBRATE_BATTERY(a) makro?
10:07.54zeckeRP: sorry, I should have some more time today...
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10:10.13mrdatamr__nice: not true; have look of simpad_get_voltage() -> = vbatt = li-ion accu voltage
10:10.59koenrwhitby: any idea why strip would fail on the gpstk binaries?
10:11.33rwhitbykoen: no idea - I'm still pondering why simply changing a noinst to a lib in automake would cause the compile to fail ...
10:11.37mrdatamr_nice: you should also change the macro to CALIBRATE_BATTERY(a)   ((((a + 3)*12610)/860) + 170)
10:12.02rwhitby(as that's the automake way to generate install targets ...)
10:12.06mrdatamr_nice: the result values are more possible
10:12.23koenrwhitby: comparing the jam and autofoo built stuff shows more strange differences
10:13.24zeckekoen: because gpstk is a shell script?
10:13.40koenzecke: no, lots of c++
10:13.58koenzecke: parallels coherence mode rocks
10:14.36zeckekoen: does it work for linux as well?
10:14.52koenprobably not
10:15.00mr_nicemrdata: ok for both battery types?
10:16.22zeckekoen: currently parallels USB implementation is ... broken
10:16.24mrdatamr_nice: yes, measurement of voltage is independently from capacity of the accu
10:16.51zeckekoen: to connect a Serial<->USB link I need to plug a USB 1.1 HUB first, then plug an active USB2.0 HUB and then I can connect the serial :)
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10:38.46mr_nicemrdata: can you upload your gpe-image on opensimpad.org? I am not able to create one which is functional. I want to give it to martin on the oesf.org forums.
10:40.49mrdatamr_nice: i could, but my gpe_image is in developer state, kernel with debug messages ...
10:42.03mrdatamr_nice: i searching the suspend bug, the kernel tell me a Internal error: Oops - bad syscall: 5f5353 [#1]
10:42.21mrdatamr_nice: after i do apm --suspend
10:43.29mr_nicemrdata: yes no problem he knows about that. but mine is even less useful because you can not log in to gpe
10:44.17mrdatamr_nice: okay, where should i upload the image
10:45.29mr_nicemrdata: best to do that on opensimpad.org just log in and use upload. else you can choose anyplace on the web.
10:47.15mrdatamr_nice: okay, but it will take some time, must make backup from running image, decompress, build new one
10:48.09mr_nicemrdata: no problem. it even can take a few days or so. I just don't know when I will be able to create a funktional Image.
10:48.19mrdatamr_nice: have a seperate flash kernel partition and no home
10:50.20mr_nicemrdata: th
10:50.26mr_nicemrdata: thx
10:50.38mrdatamr_nice: okay, the loog time will take the new kernel compile for my developer machine
10:51.31mrdatamr_nice: because no mtdcore, mtdblock and mtdram support for now
10:53.54mrdatamr_nice: i use sidux, and the mtdram support is not on by default
10:54.37mr_nicemrdata: you can use the one from oe.
10:55.15mrdatamr_nice: thx!, i will look to it
10:55.21sirfredIt seems that there's a problem with the corgi backlight. But only a second or two after starting a gpe-program.
10:55.26mr_nicemrdata: or do you mount the jffs2 image and extract the stuff?
10:55.41sirfredIs there any kernel sys interface to change the backlight value/state ?
10:57.49mrdatamr_nice: yes, i use mtdram 32MB, copy the image to /dev/mtdblock0, mount -t jffs2 /dev/mtdblock0 /mnt/simpad
10:59.09mrdatamr_nice: than i have the full access, copy to local system, make modification, build a new image
11:00.21mr_nicemrdata: there is allway a .tar.gz or tar.bz file this one contains the filesystem as well. or you can copy the tmp deploy rootfs directory
11:00.22mrdatamr_nice: split the image in rootfs part and homefs part for flashing from cf-card with bootloader
11:00.45koensirfred: sys/class/backlight/<device>/brightness
11:00.59sirfredHumm, I've catched a gpe-conf task_backlight off
11:01.15sirfredIt seems it's spammed by gpe-dm, I don't know why.
11:01.17mrdatamr_nice: i know, but i have done modification direct on simpad
11:01.28mr_nicemrdata: ah, ok
11:01.34sirfredkoen: Thanks. I've runned gpe-conf task_backlight on, and it's right now.
11:02.02sirfredThe bad thing is that I've NAND restored and flashed again thinking that the machine was hunged.
11:02.15sirfredI have to consider buying a serial cable
11:05.45mr_nicemrdata: build it only if you have time for it. it is not that important.
11:08.25CIA-1103nail 07org.oe.dev * r84e15076... 10/ (1 packages/haserl packages/haserl/haserl_0.8.0.bb): haserl: Add package haserl
11:12.52mrdatamr_nice: i have looked at my modules tree and found that i have done the work on 2007/03/01
11:13.26mrdatamr_nice: so backup and rebuild should not be that problem now
11:14.07RPzecke: no problem, I was a bt tired last night anyhow. I can probably think clearer today :)
11:16.52sirfredRP: Hello. Could I ask you a pair of questions?
11:17.13RPsirfred: certainly
11:18.05sirfredRP: First one is: Is SD/MMC supported for c7x0 on 2.6.20 ?
11:18.55RPsirfred: It should be although I keep hearing of problems. It works for me :/
11:18.55sirfredRP: Is CONFIG_MMC_PXA=y the option to set it?
11:18.56RPsirfred: yes
11:19.04sirfredRP: It doesn't work for me either. :(
11:19.26sirfredRP: Any idea to diagnose it?
11:19.38RPsirfred: Someone with a machine/card showing the problem is going to need to track down the change in mainline that broke it...
11:19.54sirfredRP: Should something be created in /proc or /sys that I should check?
11:20.22sirfredRP: It used to work for me, but in 2.6.20
11:21.14RPsirfred: I think the only way will be to run through the changes, bisecting them, or look at the changelogs and guess at the changes that might have caused it
11:21.25sirfredRP: The other question is what I've tried to explain in bug 2039.
11:21.36sirfredRP: ok. I wil try
11:21.38sirfredI will try
11:21.55LaibschNAiL: Just a hint (or two) after reading your haserl commit.  PR = "r0" is the default, no need to specify it.  And using the SOURCEFORGE_MIRROR variable instead of hard paths makes fetching more robust.
11:22.16sirfredRP: jffs2 images are generated without eraseblock arg for zaurus-clamshells. I wonder if that is correct (it doesn't work for me)
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11:23.55RPsirfred: I wonder if you were using a kernel which didn't have lzo compression support?
11:24.55sirfredRP: What's the configuration option to look for ?
11:25.53RPsirfred: LZO options in the defconfig
11:25.54sirfredCONFIG_JFFS2_LZO=y in my .config
11:26.06RPsirfred: ok, that should work
11:26.15sirfredRP: It seems to be set. It's a linux-rp_2.6.20 without modifications.
11:26.42RPsirfred: Right, I just had to check you were using a modified kernel
11:26.43sirfredRP: So, should be legal to build a jffs2 image without specifying the eraseblock ?
11:27.15RPsirfred: No, we should be able to set that without problems
11:27.55RPsirfred: Is this .dev or .oz345x?
11:27.59sirfredRP: .dev
11:30.15sirfredRP: Thanks for your answers. :)
11:30.19sirfredI have to leave now. bbl
11:32.15koenLaibsch, NAiL: and ${PV} in SRC_URI
11:34.35Laibschkoen: Yes, absolutely.
11:34.51Laibschuse variables when you can ;-)
11:40.45NAiLLaibsch: I specify PR = "r0" because it's easier to bump the PR next time, and it's easier to remember ;)
11:42.14NAiLanyway, fixed.
11:44.38CIA-1103nail 07org.oe.dev * rb113220b... 10/ (1 packages/haserl/haserl_0.8.0.bb): haserl: Fix SRC_URI
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12:56.03mr_nicemrdata: ping
13:07.53mrdatamr_nice: pong
13:10.20mrdatamr_nice: sorry, my girlfriend got me work in kitchen
13:11.27mr_nicemrdata: hehe no problem I am knowing that situation. just ping me if you find some time
13:11.50mrdatamr_nice: work was done, i am ready now
13:12.42mr_nicemrdata: I think I am complete with the battery driver
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13:13.29mr_nicemrdata: here is the source (http://pastebin.ca/409094). It would be nice if you can check if the values and calculation formulas are correct
13:13.47mrdatamr_nice: okay, few minutes
13:14.40mr_nicemrdata: thx
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13:22.27mrdatamr_nice: the logic in simpad_get_status() is not correct
13:24.37mrdatamr_nice: vcharger > battery->min_supply tells you only, is power supply connected or not
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13:28.10mr_nicemrdata: yes, but if it is not charging and power is not connected the battery will discharge?
13:31.51mrdatamr_nice: yes
13:33.25mrdatamr_nice: not_charging is when power supply connected and icharger< charging_led_label
13:34.26mrdatamr_nice: you must also use different charging_led_label values
13:35.22mrdatamr_nice: small battery = 12 , big battery = 27 or 28 (i use better 27)
13:36.25mr_nicemrdata: I am doing that
13:36.32mrdatamr_nice: also charging_max_label had different values (120 - 265)
13:37.02mrdatamr_nice: but charging_max_label was never be used for calculation
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13:39.22mrdatamr_nice: stop, it is useable for calculating percentage of accu fill
13:40.57mrdatamr_nice: while charging: 100-100*(icharger-CHARGING_LED_LEVEL)/(CHARGING_MAX_LEVEL-CHARGING_LED_LEVEL)
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13:47.12mr_nicemrdata: I have to think a bit about the stuff. where do you want to export the percentage of the accu?
13:50.10mr_nicemrdata: I could extend http://pastebin.ca/409125 for something like file percentage
13:50.51mrdatamr_nice: have a look at http://pastebin.ca/409126
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13:55.28mrdatazecke: ping
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13:56.31mrdatazecke: have you some time for me, to solve a kernel26 problem on simpad while suspending
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14:39.45chouimatmorning
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14:51.38NAiLwth? Why does uboot have 13mb of tar.bz2 files?
15:05.10sirfred|bblk
15:14.13CIA-1103nail 07org.oe.dev * r37b1c3b6... 10/ (6 files in 3 dirs): uboot: Update linkstation uboot
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15:26.06koenNAiL: because I didn't pay attention while merging the openmoko stuff...
15:26.46chouimat~lart koen for not paying attention
15:26.46ibotsqueezes koen till koen turns blue like papa smurf for not paying attention
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16:47.28CIA-1103rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rb4f34bb5... 10/ (1 conf/machine/include/zaurus-clamshell.conf): zaurus-clamshell: Fix jffs2 commandline, enable lzo compression
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16:54.34CroftonIt is like summer outside, and I must work :(
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16:57.21Croftoncrap, I need to return a book to the library ...
16:57.29Croftonoverdue, and I have already renewed
17:02.40Croftonit is 21-22C outside now
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17:12.12koenhmmm
17:12.27koenI need to find time to get beryl/compiz/whatever running in the efika
17:12.40Croftonwhat are these?
17:12.49koen3d eyecandy things
17:12.54Croftonah
17:13.03Crofton<PROTECTED>
17:13.26koenI have :)
17:14.14psokolovsky__Hi!
17:14.23psokolovsky__!oebug 1966
17:14.25cdbot2* * Bug 1966, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-03-10 17:59
17:14.26cdbot2* * pmiscml(AT)gmail.com: Allow to limit list of binary-generated GLIBC locales
17:14.27cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1966
17:14.39psokolovsky__koen, hrw|gone: I'd like to commit ^, any issues?
17:18.25koenlooks ok to me
17:18.43psokolovsky__ok, thanks
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17:34.19Croftonwhy did we add the symling from bootstrap-image to Angstrom bootstrap-image ?
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17:35.20empty_mindanyone able to set openembedded on ubuntu edgy ?
17:35.26CroftonI'm not really complaining, but I was confused when I found two images for the price of one
17:36.13koenCrofton: the symlink should always point to the most recently built image
17:36.19Croftonah
17:36.21koenCrofton: for e.g. lazy people
17:36.22Croftonconvenient
17:36.24Croftonyeah
17:36.27summatusmentisempty_mind: no ubuntu, I've got it on debian etch
17:36.39CroftonI just blow away tmp alot
17:36.55empty_mindsummatusmentis, i got it working on debian etch
17:37.01empty_mindsummatusmentis, just cant figure out which packages to install
17:37.42koenempty_mind: read getting started, that points you to openembedded-essential.deb
17:38.38empty_mindkoen, i included the repository pointed in getting started, but all attempts to do apt-get update to result in repository not found
17:39.29empty_mindkoen, added this line in source.list deb http://www.openembedded.org/dl/ packages/
17:40.24koenworks over here
17:40.32koenand worked at the indt office last week
17:41.28empty_mindkoen, works for dapper, but giving error in edgy
17:42.01koenah, dapper here
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17:48.07sirfredRP: Your changes to zaurus-clamshell.conf seems right to me. Unfortunately, I feel I've reached the flash quota of this week, ;-)
17:49.41sirfredRP: Also, my problem with the SD card seem to be limited to an old 64Mb SD card I used for Ximageon testing. I've tried with a newer Kingstom 512Mb card, and it seem to work fine. Also, changes in kernel mmc code from 2.6.17 to 2.6.20 are a lot to spend time trying to fix support for that old SD card.
17:49.59RPsirfred: ok, please do close the bug when you've tested (or close now if you think they will work)
17:50.12sirfredRP: I think it will work. I'm going to close it. Thanks<1
17:50.41RPsirfred: It would still be nice to know why those old SD cards stopped working. You could try the 2.6.19 kernel to try and narrow it down
17:51.02sirfred~lart toshiba for having '<' key near right shift
17:51.02ibotholds toshiba to the floor and spanks him with a cat-o-nine-tails for having '<' key near right shift
17:51.20Croftonany hardcore ARM kernel hackers about?
17:51.23sirfredRP: I suspect mmc.c could be the source of 'problems'
17:51.30sirfredRP: 2.6.19-git ?
17:51.49sirfredRP: It seems to be the only linux-rp 2.6.19 version now.
17:51.55RPsirfred: There was a 2.6.19 although I removed it since I wanted to get 2.6.20 concentrated on - perhaps find an older checkout
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17:52.24timtimredok, i have IMAGE_PREPROCESS_COMMAND set in a distro config and IMAGE_PREPROCESS_COMMAND_platform in a class. it seems IMAGE_PREPROCESS_COMMAND_platform now ensures that the stuff in IMAGE_PREPROCESS_COMMAND no longer works
17:52.25RPCrofton: That would depend ;-)
17:52.29timtimredany suggestions?
17:52.47Crofton/proc/<pid>/smaps output seems funny
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17:53.06RPtimtimred: You're overridden it so yes, the original wouldn't work
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17:53.15likewiseHello all
17:53.20koenhey likewise
17:53.24Jin^eLDhi likewise
17:53.48CroftonI get sections with mode ---p
17:53.56RPCrofton: I've little direct experience with that although I keep meaning to look...
17:54.05timtimredright, i thought the behavior was that it inherited IMAGE_PREPROCESS_COMMAND
17:54.37RPtimtimred: No,  IMAGE_PREPROCESS_COMMAND_platform is a platform specific override
17:54.42CroftonI think I need to send an email to linux-omap list
17:54.45Croftonhmmm
17:54.53RP<PROTECTED>
17:55.02Croftonanyone got an arm that is not an omap kernel handy?
17:55.21Croftoncan you do a pmap 1
17:55.29Croftoner, with procps installed ...
17:55.35koendone
17:55.44RPah, that bit is harder for me
17:55.52koenhttp://rafb.net/p/HgfufV48.html
17:56.00Croftontry cat /proc/1/smaps
17:56.09timtimredright, but all the platform classes are inherited so they would all mess each other up
17:56.10Croftonand look at the sections mapped to libc
17:56.27timtimredoops NAiL
17:56.31Croftonlooking at smaps should help me
17:56.54CroftonI have three sections r-xp, ---p, and r--p
17:57.14koenCrofton: http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/smaps
17:57.32RPCrofton: I don't see any ---p, all have r
17:57.38Croftonok
17:57.40koenLinux fic-gta01 2.6.20-moko8 #1 PREEMPT Mon Mar 5 19:16:16 CET 2007 armv4tl unknown
17:57.49CroftonI am beginning to suspect omap kernel specific problem
17:58.12Croftonhmmm, koen has a ---p in his libc
17:58.27CroftonRP, what kernel?
17:58.35RPCrofton: 2.6.20
17:58.37timtimredthx, i will go annoy NAiL into fixing it
17:58.47timtimred:)
17:58.49Croftonvanilla?
17:58.54RPCrofton: linux-rp ;-)
17:59.11hillctwhat's the syntax for defining a sub-package postinst script?
17:59.17RPCrofton: Nothing touching memory mapping stuff
17:59.54Croftonok
18:04.16sirfredI wonder if libsdl shouldn't install an sdl-config script into the staging/$target/bin directory
18:04.25sirfredIs that a correct approach?
18:07.08psokolovsky__RP: Hi, what about kernel-image cleanup patch? ;-)
18:09.11sirfredHumm, I see there's already an sdl-config script in staging/$HOST/bin/$TARGET
18:09.36CIA-1103pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r1476457b... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)
18:09.36CIA-11glibc, local.conf.sample: Introduce and handle new OE variable, GLIBC_GENERATE_LOCALES
18:09.36CIA-11to limit set of generated binary locales.
18:09.36CIA-11* If ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION is set to "1", you can limit locales
18:09.36CIA-11generated to the list provided by GLIBC_GENERATE_LOCALES. This is huge
18:09.36CIA-11time-savior for developmental builds. Format: list of locale.encoding pairs
18:09.40CIA-11with spaces as separators, e.g.:
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18:20.35sirfredA question about bugs.openembedded.org policy.
18:20.55sirfredIf I find what I think is an existing bug solution, how should I proceed?
18:21.10sirfredJust submit the patch as an attach and leave the bug state unchanged?
18:21.19RPsirfred: Append it to the bug
18:21.29sirfredRP: And nothing else. right?
18:22.20Crofton~lart the linux-omap list for not allowing digitally signed emails
18:22.20ibotDoSes the linux-omap list for not allowing digitally signed emails
18:22.20sirfredRP: Is the bug submitter who changes it to FIXED and VERIFIED latter ?
18:22.22RPsirfred: it depends, the committer can also change it depending on how confident they are about a fix
18:22.33Crofton~lart ibot for being slow
18:22.33ibotstuffs crofton into a shiny new tin can and vacuum seals it for being slow
18:22.58sirfredRP: Well, I've hit the same problem, I've made some changes and it works for me.
18:23.21sirfredRP: My only doubt is that it could, perhaps, break other .bb, as it's a change in a .inc file.
18:24.11RPsirfred: Right, so just add the patch and maybe highlight it here in case someone with commit access can pick it up
18:24.28sirfredRP: ok
18:28.25likewiseIs this legal (note the =+)? : PACKAGES =+ "avahi-daemon"
18:29.26pH5likewise: =+ means 'prepend'
18:29.56sirfredI've added a possible fix to bug 2000, if someone is interested.
18:30.41likewisepH5: tnx
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18:31.31koensirfred: 'FIXED' is only valid when the fix has been committed/applied/etc
18:31.58RPsirfred: I can confirm your proposed fix is correct and should be checked in...
18:32.22sirfredRP: Thanks. So we only need someone that want to check it in.
18:32.56sirfredThere is another bug with scummvm, it seems to only appear when using -O options with gcc/g++
18:33.10NAiLIs there any way I can generate two images automatically? I need a tar.gz image and a jffs2 image...
18:33.29likewiseNAiL: yes, IMAGE_FSTYPES = "jffs2 tar.gz"
18:33.44likewiseNAiL: you should check that variable name, this might be incorrect.
18:34.01NAiLok, so it handles more than one
18:34.03RPlikewise: It sounds right to me
18:34.47likewiseNAiL: Yes, that's how I found out some bugs :-) IMAGE_FSTYPES = "jffs2 squashfs squashfs-lzma ext2" I have here.
18:35.23NAiLlikewise: Thanks a bunch
18:35.45likewiseNAiL: np
18:35.48sirfredAnd now that we're talking about bugs, I have another one related with gtk-webcore: 2038. If you are so kind to take a look at it... :)
18:36.02sirfredI have a proposed patch, also
18:36.03koenkoen@bitbake:/data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/deploy/glibc/ipk$ find . -name "*ipk" | wc -l
18:36.03koen26340
18:36.04koenhmmmm
18:38.41likewisekoen: does angstrom-console-image build for you? (I'm hitting a dependency on glib-2.0 that cannot be resolved somehow)
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18:38.59cyrilRomain'evening all
18:39.05koenlikewise: I just built one
18:39.50likewisekoen: hmm, I tried to build one for EFIKA twice, but even the clean build bails out.
18:40.14koenbitbake -s | grep glib-2.0
18:40.14koenglib-2.0                               0:2.12.10-r0                    
18:40.14koenglib-2.0-native                         0:2.12.4-r1          
18:40.34mrdatazecke: ping
18:42.53likewisecyrilRomain: bonsoir
18:43.39CIA-1103likewise 07org.oe.dev * re77f9fae... 10/ (1 conf/bitbake.conf): bitbake.conf: Make IMAGE_CMD_tar build uncompressed archives. Regression fix.
18:43.58sirfredkoen: You have a good cairo knowledge, haven't you?
18:44.13likewisesirfred: egypt
18:44.23chouimatlol
18:44.32sirfredlikewise: :)
18:44.39sirfredlikewise: The other cairo, in gtk land, you know?
18:44.49likewisesirfred: yes, been programming in cairo all weekend :-)
18:45.01chouimatsirfred: I thought the gtk land was a myth
18:45.06likewisesirfred: the cairographics.org one.
18:45.10sirfredlikewise: What about the weather ?
18:45.27likewisechouimat: no, gtk land is a fata morgana
18:45.27sirfredchouimat::)
18:45.46koenchouimat: iirc the trolls pilaged it
18:46.05chouimatkoen cool ;)
18:46.10sirfredkoen: :)
18:46.50sirfredWell, I wonder if the gpe-clock not showing (neither the taskbar applet nor the clock app) could be caused by some cairo issue ?
18:47.24sirfredI always relate cairo with that kind of shapes, like curves and so
18:47.40sirfredAnd as the clock applet works when in digital mode...
18:47.50likewiseleon@witty:~/sandbox/efika/openembedded$ bitbake -s | grep glib-2.0
18:47.51likewiseglib-2.0-native                           2.12.4-r1
18:48.17likewisechouimat: why?
18:48.28sirfredchouimat: You don't like hot and sand ?
18:48.49chouimatlikewise: because I hate gtk+ ... it's just my personal tastes
18:48.59Croftonit pains me to look at c code that would be prettier with c++ namespaces ....
18:49.02sirfredI hardly know it, only a tutorial about making a clock widget.
18:49.03chouimatsirfred: no I'm fat and ugly :)
18:49.11sirfredchouimat: :)
18:49.11koenlikewise: it seems bitbake doesn't pick up your glib-2.0 recipes
18:49.42sirfredIt seems that I'm using 1.4.2, perhaps trying with an older release...
18:50.12keesjare there developers here who use gentoo as base system?
18:50.31likewisekoen: looking into it
18:50.34cyrilRomainkeesj: yep
18:51.31sirfredHumm, it seems that openzaurus-3.5.5.conf wants cairo 1.3.12, and that version is not available now. So it goes for the higher version.
18:51.57koensirfred: you'd want 1.4.x anyway
18:52.02koen1.3.x is the unstable series
18:52.27keesjcyrilRomain and for what platform are you programming (if I may ask)?
18:52.31CIA-1103koen 07org.oe.dev * r33dc2a58... 10/ (1 packages/matchbox2/matchbox-panel-2_svn.bb): matchbox-panel2: don't make the applets replace mb-panel, that breaks image generation if you build both
18:52.42sirfredkoen: I will ask hrw or XorA if there's any reason to lock cairo to that version in openzaurus-3.5.5
18:52.51cyrilRomainkeesj: tosa and i686
18:53.12sirfredkoen: But I'm going to try with 1.3.14 to see if the problem is still present. Thanks.
18:53.23koenlikewise: how much power does that h264 thingy consume?
18:54.22likewisekoen: 15 Watts per chip, so at least 8*15. Probably 200+ though due to lower efficiencies in all parts.
18:54.49koenlikewise: so the same as an average servefr
18:54.52koenserver*
18:55.57likewisekoen: yes. in fact, there is competition that actually uses a server platform for real-time HD encoding. It's just that broadcasters often do not like PC based solutions for 24/7 operation.
18:56.36likewisekoen: but I would not be scared away by it. Use a redundant PSU and you're off.
18:58.51keesjcyrilRomain: I have so for not much luck in setting up oe on gentoo . perhaps I can first try the tosa configuration
18:59.41cyrilRomainkeesj: what is the problem ?
19:00.11keesjthe gcc won't compile
19:00.57cyrilRomaingcc ? Do you have updated metadata ?
19:01.14keesjthis is what I get http://box.mmapps.net/~keesj/test.txt
19:01.15cworthchouimat|away: cairo is quite usable apart from GTK+, for what it's worth.
19:02.03chouimat|awaycworth: when I need a gui I use Qt4 so I don't need cairo :)
19:02.06keesjcyrilRomain Yes I have tried just about everything I could think off , even swichted to different gcc hosts
19:02.29likewisechouimat|away: yup, I'm using cairo without GUI and I can concur with cworth.
19:02.32cyrilRomainkeesj: maybe you just discovered a bug
19:02.57mrdatahave a ARM kernel developer some time for me, help to find the reason for a kernel-2.6.20 Oops - bad syscall problem
19:03.00cworthchouimat|away: Yeah, the trolls decided to re-invent cairo instead of using it. Not much I can do about that of course.
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19:03.13likewisecworth: We plan to demo a HDTV quad split system that has Cairo overlaid graphics at NAB2007 Las Vegas.
19:03.26cworthlikewise: fancy
19:04.13likewisecworth: I once contacted you about it being my graduate project, but I could not get a coach at the uni for it. So I decided to work on it afterwards.
19:04.24chouimat|awaycworth:  their stuff was started before cairo iirc  but if you prefers it it's find for me I just find it's API ugly so I don't use it
19:04.25keesjI would love to , this error message has been there before. the home page also mentions CROSS COMPILE Badness as source of all miserry
19:05.26cyrilRomainkeesj: as the message say, it tries to include a header from your gentoo instead of including from the staging directory
19:05.31likewisechouimat|away: you are talking to the architect (cworth) so you might want to explain why you think it is ugly :-)
19:06.07chouimat|awaylikewise: I kind of guessed it ... like I said before it a matter of personal tastes ...
19:06.50likewisechouimat|away: of course, and mostly a matter of language low/high-level-ness also, I think.
19:07.19chouimat|awaylikewise: it a matter of feeling confortable using it ...
19:07.43keesjI would be happy to try a different distro if it might help
19:08.43chouimat|awaylikewise: also I spend more time doing desktop apps that connect to the devices remotly so I rarely need graphics capabilities ...
19:09.10cyrilRomainkeesj: you can run ./configure --help in the gcc-cross-initial directory. It seems a wrong path is determined by configure script, and hopefully a configure option is enough to get rid of the cross compile badness error
19:09.35likewisechouimat|away: For that purpose, there is cairo for java. (OK, I will shut up now).
19:09.43cyrilRomainkeesj: what distro are you trying to compile ?
19:10.09chouimat|awaylikewise: I prefers using Qt ... too much investment in this :)
19:12.16keesjcyrilRomain I am trying generic on with machine set to smdk2440
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19:14.44cyrilRomainkeesj: you could try angstrom, but as smdk2440 is armv4t, I'm not sure it is a good idea...
19:14.50keesjcyrilRomain I also tried to just move the /usr/include away . that I how deperate I am :p
19:15.07cyrilRomainkeesj: don't be deseperate
19:15.33cyrilRomaincross compile badness is error that even me can fix, so I guess you can :)
19:16.55cyrilRomainkeesj: jump into /home/keesj/oe/tmp/work/armv4t-linux/gcc-cross-initial-4.1.1-r11/ and take a look at the output of the configure
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19:20.16cyrilRomainkeesj: if you don't plan to compile java, you can try to disable gcj (which include libffi apparently)
19:22.04keesjthat is a great tip. http://box.mmapps.net/~keesj/temp/ here are my logs I will try a bit longer and oterwize try to compile for angstrom-2007.1
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19:27.11cyrilRomainkeesj: looking at your logs, a regexp fails
19:27.22cyrilRomainin http://box.mmapps.net/~keesj/temp/log.do_compile.28666
19:27.58cyrilRomainI guess this can be the reason
19:28.32keesjI added --disable-languages=java in gcc-cross-initial_4.1.1.bb . I hope it works!
19:29.28cyrilRomainkeesj: well it might, but the question is why the regexp failed ?
19:30.01keesjthe MPFR thing?
19:30.40cyrilRomainMPFR ?
19:32.00likewisekeesj: which sed version do you use on your host?
19:32.44cyrilRomainhmm what "sed -n 's/^#define \([^_][a-zA-Z0-9_]*\).*/\1/p ;" is trying to do ?
19:33.02cyrilRomainremoving '#define' ?
19:33.29likewisecyrilRomain: I think the expression continues on the next line, until the end quote.
19:33.39cyrilRomainlikewise: yes
19:34.14keesjGNU sed version 4.1.5
19:34.53cyrilRomainhmm same version here
19:35.36keesjsorry I was reffering to the configure output MPFR http://box.mmapps.net/~keesj/temp/log.do_configure.27466
19:35.38likewisesame here (Ubuntu Feisty Beta something)
19:36.37keesjlikewise makes /me happy :p
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19:37.46keesjYou don't have the same error message ?
19:38.00likewisekeesj: no :-)
19:38.45likewisekeesj: same sed version
19:39.35likewiseThis seems related to the make version: http://mail.cs.uu.nl/pipermail/stratego/2006q4/000658.html
19:39.46cyrilRomainkeesj: I can't find where does this sed comes from. At least not in oe metadata.
19:40.32cyrilRomainGNU Make 3.81 here
19:41.00keesjGNU Make 3.81 | gcc (GCC) 4.1.1 (Gentoo 4.1.1-r3)
19:41.04likewiseHere is a supposed fix. The ";" is split over multiple -e(xpressions)   http://mail.cs.uu.nl/pipermail/stratego/2006q4/000657.html
19:41.25likewisemake 3.81 here as well... but the fix approach is worth a try
19:43.37keesjwhere do you see this sed command?
19:43.51cyrilRomainkeesj: in the Makefile
19:44.39cyrilRomainkeesj:  in your /home/keesj/oe/tmp/work/armv4t-linux/gcc-cross-initial-4.1.1-r11/gcc-4.1.1/build.i686-linux.arm-linux/gcc  directory
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19:48.57keesjthanks for help
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19:49.54dalurkaI'm trying to build the angstrom-console-image and it fails while configuring glib-2.0
19:50.27dalurkai checked the config.log but the information is overwhelming
19:50.51dalurkait is for hx2000
19:52.32dalurkahttp://pallid.bsnet.se/~dalurka/oe/
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20:07.02cyrilRomaindalurka: __cplusplus is not defined
20:07.16cyrilRomainthe question is why?
20:07.25dalurkaits a clean build also
20:07.41zeckedalurka: isn't it obvious?
20:07.53dalurkazecke: what?
20:08.16zecke"checking for growing stack pointer... configure: error: cannot run test program while cross compiling"
20:08.34zeckeerror == something fundamentally wrong
20:08.45zecke"cannot run test program while cross compiling"
20:08.49zecke<- the reason
20:08.58zeckeAh you can't run tests when you cross compile
20:09.09zeckenow check the Autoconf manual on how to work around such issues...
20:09.59dalurkawill look in to it but thats for tomorrow
20:10.24dalurkabed time over here
20:11.04JoeSchmozecke, have a config.site or some sort of cache somewhere where you can stash values?
20:11.46zeckeJoeSchmo: we have. Add the test itself to our m4 directory and uodate the sites file
20:12.04zeckeJoeSchmo: http://www.openembedded.org/filebrowser/org.openembedded.dev/site
20:12.43JoeSchmouseful
20:15.25zeckenite
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20:21.54cyrilRomainargh : NOTE: Couldn't find shared library provider for libc.so.6
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20:28.48ursHi all... I'm certain this question has been asked quite often already (but neither google nor your documentation provided me with much insight): how do I get oe on x86 to support older kernels then 2.6.20? With 2.6.16, I get "Fatal: kernel too old" on attempting to boot.
20:29.48ursI guess it would work by setting the appropriate preferred_provider, but the documentation is not exactly transparent as to what I'd have to put in there.
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20:39.02meisterflorian, hi
20:39.03cyrilRomainhmm,  even after a build from scratch, I get "Couldn't find shared library provider for libc.so.6" in gcc-cross-4.1.1 do_package ...
20:39.27florianhi meister
20:39.37florianargh
20:39.39cyrilRomaindoes this mean the package will be broken ?
20:39.54cyrilRomainhi florian
20:40.02floriancyrilRomain: i don't think so
20:40.06meisterflorian, do you have some news about the netbook pro stuff ? :)
20:40.10florianmeister: oops
20:47.29likewisecyrilRomain: I am having similar issues with glib-2.0
20:47.49likewisebitbake -s | grep glib-2.0 did not list the cross-compile packages for me
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20:52.03cyrilRomainlikewise: hmm no idea ... I guess you already updated to bitbake 1.8.1
20:52.05philippeflorian: hmmm, netbook stuff. Sounds interesting...
20:52.20philippeAs I do not seem to have the kernel tools...
20:57.23cyrilRomainsomething that is not obvious to me: why using qemu for glibc binary local generation ?
20:59.43likewiseCan somebody spot what might be happening here: http://www.pastebin.ca/409640
21:00.18likewiseSomehow, bitbake 'skips' the package I want to build
21:01.11cyrilRomaincyrilRomain: in oe IRC log, hvontres|poodle wrote "If I understand this correctly, the glibc locale information needs to be compiled into binary form. This can be done on the target(ususlly slow) or in qemu"
21:04.16likewisegotta go, good luck in further bug hunting
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21:11.19sirfredGood night.
21:14.17meisterflorian, many thanks, i will be happy to start hacking nb pro ;)
21:14.37meisteri lacked a documentation about the boot process (:
21:15.24meisteri have 9 nbpro on a shelve :)
21:15.55florianmeister: its a start written from memory... but i'll try to answer questions.
21:16.04meisterok
21:16.27florianmeister: uh, cool.... ok that's worth spending some time with them :-)
21:16.45meisterit should be possible to back up the original flash
21:20.25SonicvanaJrDoes OE work fully on FreeBSD, I see there's a section in OEAndYourDistro, but it didn't seem too detailed
21:23.47meisterflorian, "NETBOOK PRO-404 OS Image - English language version"
21:23.54meisteron http://www.psionteklogix.com/public.aspx?s=fr&p=SoftwareDownloads
21:24.05meisteri will have a try with this image
21:24.37florianmeister: ok, i'll dig out the necessary kernel image and scripts tomorrow
21:24.53meisterflorian, ok thx
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21:25.14cyrilRomainSonicvanaJr: I see no reason why it shouldn't work, as soon as you have the required software
21:25.16meisterflorian, what about this : http://linuxtogo.org/~florian/index.php?path=netbook/
21:25.26SonicvanaJrcyrilRomain: thanks
21:28.05cyrilRomainnite all
21:28.43florianmeister: the public part - the 3.5.4.1 image is one of the files you want. the others are old stuff, some extra packages and some screenshots
21:29.45meisterok ;)
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23:32.19v8jleneurs, sounds like the machine you are building for has OLDEST_KERNEL set to something newer than what you are trying to build.
23:32.57ursv8jlene: no, same symptom if I set OLDEST_KERNEL to the appropriate kernel version.
23:34.39v8jleneurs: Ok, no real idea then. 2.6.17 is the oldest kernel I build at the moment (machine = wrap).
23:36.46ursit does work with an older image that I found lying around here... I'll try to find out which change caused it to break.
23:37.31ursWith the older version, some other packages are broken though, so I'll see if I can find a version where both things work.

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