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00:50.18 | Crofton|laptop | SonicvanaJr, open source is only as good as its users ... |
00:50.36 | SonicvanaJr | Very true |
00:50.42 | Crofton|laptop | :) |
00:51.50 | SonicvanaJr | Still it'd be nice to have a little bit of info, there's a ton of errors/warnings when building |
00:52.05 | Crofton|laptop | sounds like you are a pioneer |
00:53.38 | SonicvanaJr | Or attempting to tread in some footsteps that have been very well covered |
00:53.52 | Crofton|laptop | I suspect they are not well covered |
00:53.58 | Crofton|laptop | snce the web page is empty |
00:55.10 | Crofton|laptop | what errors and warnings btw? |
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02:14.44 | jselect | koen: do you know the format required for the psplash progress bar image? Is it just a box? |
02:27.23 | jselect | koen: disregard that please. I've modified psplash to just draw the border itself :) |
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03:08.47 | jacques | ibot, seen RP |
03:09.25 | ibot | rp is currently on #gpe (6h 34m 28s) #oe (6h 34m 28s) #openmoko (6h 34m 28s) #handhelds.org (6h 34m 28s). Has said a total of 2 messages. Is idling for 5h 33m 30s, last said: 'hi CoreDump|home '. |
03:09.25 | jacques | ibot, status |
03:09.34 | ibot | Since Tue Mar 27 02:14:46 2007, there have been 106 modifications, 520 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 456 commands. I have been awake for 2d 54m 39s this session, and currently reference 112741 factoids. I'm using about 19232 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 8696.81/664.01 child 0.04/0.01 |
03:10.25 | jacques | ibot, reluctant botsnack |
03:10.25 | ibot | thanks, jacques |
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03:26.07 | Zero_Chaos | what reciepe is gdk-pixbuf-csource? |
03:26.25 | Zero_Chaos | gqview needs that as a dep |
03:29.58 | jselect | Zero_Chaos: it's part of .. hang on |
03:30.06 | jselect | Zero_Chaos: I just used it myself for psplash |
03:30.54 | jselect | Zero_Chaos: it should be built as part of gtk+-dev |
03:31.02 | jselect | which is a dynamic package that is part of gtk+ |
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03:47.41 | Zero_Chaos | jselect: thanks, the deps for gqview should be updated, because it fails when it cannot find gdk-pixbuf-csource |
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03:56.36 | Zero_Chaos | jselect: are you sure? it still barfs |
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04:08.56 | jselect | jselect: Try it on your system. If you build gtk+-dev dynamic package and install it |
04:09.13 | jselect | it has in it's install dir the gdk-pixbuf-csource binary |
04:09.27 | jselect | but it might be a wrapper for another binary |
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06:28.30 | schurig | $ arm-linux-gcc -v |
06:28.31 | schurig | ... |
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06:28.40 | schurig | --enable-multilib |
06:28.45 | schurig | ... |
06:28.49 | schurig | --disable-multilib |
06:28.50 | schurig | ... |
06:29.01 | schurig | gcc version 4.1.1 |
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06:29.25 | schurig | Someone could not decide if multilib is useful or not :-) Hmm, what *IS* multilib? |
06:32.31 | koen | iirc it's for mixed 64bit/32bit environments |
06:32.35 | koen | good morning all |
06:35.05 | schurig | koen: good morning 2u2 |
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07:07.40 | jselect | morning all |
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07:36.46 | mr_nice | hi all |
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08:19.06 | zecke | hehe, that sounds like a german tool |
08:22.49 | koen|lab | looks like a win 3.11 tool |
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08:23.14 | koen|lab | no auto-refresh, no scrollbars, requires 3 mouse buttons, etc |
08:23.55 | koen|lab | and the 'graphical representation' of an inverter doesn't show the 'blocks', but "include ../foo/bar/mod.md" |
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08:31.55 | XorA | morning |
08:33.22 | koen|lab | hey XorE |
08:37.05 | XorA | koen|lab: yo yo yo, 2 days to release :-D |
08:37.13 | koen|lab | ;) |
08:37.22 | koen|lab | 6 days before the project deadline |
08:37.36 | XorA | gah, Angstrom is more important :-) |
08:37.40 | koen|lab | and our sigmadelta ADC only has 2 NMOS' so far |
08:38.09 | koen|lab | XorA: does wolfson have a design for a lownoise 5MHz SD-ADC? |
08:38.33 | XorA | koen|lab: no idea, I havent been here long enough to absorb product info |
08:38.50 | XorA | whats the SD part stand for? |
08:39.01 | koen|lab | sigma-delta |
08:39.02 | XorA | its been 12 years since I last did analogues |
08:40.03 | koen|lab | the reverse of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta-sigma_modulation |
08:40.44 | koen|lab | I love signal processing, but the crap tools created when neanderthals were around make it less fun |
08:42.14 | koen|lab | XorA: but before a release we need hrw|gone's internal lib code in OE psokolovsky_'s keylaunch changes and a working gpe-conf |
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08:42.45 | koen|lab | and once people verify an image boots on their device we can move those images to the RC directory |
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08:42.58 | XorA | koen|lab: gpe-conf that doesnt turn off screen is easy |
08:43.17 | pH5 | should we add the patch to OE or will florian make a release? |
08:43.24 | pH5 | what are the keylaunch changes? |
08:43.32 | koen|lab | patch |
08:43.36 | XorA | koen|lab: Signal processing was the main part of my degree, but since I havent used it since passing, I lose all knowledge |
08:43.43 | koen|lab | and it seems keylaunch isn't in angstrom-x11-image |
08:43.44 | tkp | is there any way to tell OE to look to an other location for extra shared libs? I am using an external toolchain and want OE to be able to pull in it's shared libs as needed? |
08:44.02 | XorA | tkp: look at the sharp-compat distro |
08:44.12 | tkp | XorA: thanks |
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08:45.27 | zecke | tkp: the information in the manual is not helping, then please help to improve it |
08:46.08 | tkp | zecke: the manual suggests creating a package which installs them manually |
08:46.29 | koen|lab | XorA: the regular angstrom feeds aren't working? |
08:46.39 | tkp | I did that, but something is wrong with is, as the -dbg package isn't working correctly |
08:46.44 | koen|lab | pH5, psokolovsky: what is the best kernel version to run on hx4700? |
08:46.54 | XorA | koen|lab: they do, but I also like to keep my own feed for when things like mb-panel-2 fsckup my machine |
08:46.55 | tkp | ie. gdb can't find the files in .debug for all the libs I installed manually |
08:47.06 | koen|lab | XorA: aha |
08:47.25 | tkp | XorA: what is it about that distribution that gets OE to pull in the libs from the prebuilt toolchain tho? |
08:47.30 | zecke | tkp: make sure to give back and update the documentation! |
08:47.36 | XorA | koen|lab: and one day I shall sell the how to generate one feed from many script :-) |
08:47.38 | psokolovsky | koen|lab: latest, 2.6.20-hh5 ;-) (need to add it though) |
08:47.49 | pH5 | psokolovsky: did you test with OE configuration? |
08:47.55 | zecke | tkp: what do you mean by "pull in" use it to link against it? or to package it properly? |
08:47.57 | XorA | tkp: no idea, but it uses the toolchain from sharp to do the build |
08:48.12 | tkp | zecke: to package it properly |
08:48.18 | pH5 | we have to do that and/or update defconfig before it can be used as default kernel. |
08:48.27 | tkp | ie. to ensure the shared libs from the toolchain get installed on the target |
08:48.39 | psokolovsky | ah, yep ;-) |
08:49.08 | pH5 | I didn't test wifi/bt with 2.6.20-x yet. I guess it'll work, but I'm not sure. |
08:49.13 | psokolovsky | koen|lab: in this regard, there's a proposal to move to defconfigman-maintained defconfig for hx4700, like for h3900 & h4000 |
08:49.30 | pH5 | psokolovsky: did you have a look at my latest mail about defconfig? |
08:49.45 | pH5 | before proposing a move we should fix it to support everything (wifi, cpufreq, etc) |
08:50.02 | zecke | tkp: well you will need to create bb files that puts the libraries into packages |
08:50.08 | psokolovsky | pH5: yep, now that adc class is in, highest topic. will reply today (and add magician of course) |
08:50.16 | tkp | zecke: right - I created aa package like this (http://rafb.net/p/gmLfUj86.html), but it's not working properly... |
08:50.17 | pH5 | psokolovsky: great |
08:50.17 | zecke | tkp: and oe_libinstall them to make sure RDEPENDS are found properly |
08:50.43 | tkp | zecke: is there an example package that does this somewhere? |
08:51.04 | zecke | tkp: not that I know |
08:51.35 | zecke | tkp: well... you install to /lib which is not part of FILES by default |
08:51.36 | tkp | I got it (semi) working by making it more like this: http://rafb.net/p/G1YdZm27.html ... but it's the -dbg package that isn't working correctly |
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08:52.50 | zecke | tkp: see, your live would be more easy if you would read messages printed by OE |
08:53.12 | zecke | tkp: it will tell you which files were not packaged, etc. and concrete errors would be appreciated as well |
08:53.27 | psokolovsky_ | pH5: fyi, I'm adding -hh4/hh5 now |
08:53.29 | zecke | tkp: otherwise we need to classify these things as human error which has a lot of different solutions |
08:54.12 | pH5 | psokolovsky: ok. I'll try/test -hh5 with OE defconfig for magician/hx4700 later today |
08:54.25 | pH5 | psokolovsky: do you have a patch for the keylaunch issue already? |
08:54.41 | koen|lab | zecke: OE doesn't print messages over here |
08:54.48 | koen|lab | zecke: with bitbake trunk |
08:55.15 | zecke | koen|lab: don't use unstable versions. We should increase the sleep... |
08:55.26 | pH5 | sirfred's imageon patches break compilation of Xsdl :( |
08:55.28 | psokolovsky_ | pH5: nope, but its confirmed to be the case, and OKed by koen to commit. |
08:55.34 | zecke | tkp: So you have created packages (ipk,tar) and they contain files? |
08:56.06 | zecke | tkp: why do you think you will need -dbg packages? What is the error you get? |
08:56.06 | tkp | zecke: yes |
08:56.40 | tkp | zecke: I'm trying to debug something on the target, and not having these symbols in there isn't helping |
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08:57.39 | zecke | tkp: again. What is the error? Do you have debugging symbols in your prebuilt stuff? |
08:57.52 | zecke | tkp: what packages are created, what do they contain?... |
08:58.02 | tkp | zecke: example: http://rafb.net/p/AqAcTK50.html |
08:58.34 | zecke | don't use helix, use GStreamer it comes will the full sourcecode :) |
08:58.43 | tkp | zecke: not an option! |
08:58.49 | zecke | tkp: but again, either listen or don't! |
08:58.57 | tkp | I have the full source code for Helix |
08:59.13 | zecke | tkp: Does your prebuilt toolchain contain debugging information? |
08:59.15 | tkp | zecke: it's not question of not listening... I need to use Helix |
08:59.24 | tkp | zecke: yes |
08:59.51 | XorA | tkp: at a guess item=-1077847592 is bad :-) |
09:00.27 | zecke | tkp: well, then what packages are getting created? (e.g. pastebin the OE output) |
09:01.04 | zecke | tkp: what is your _concrete_ issue with your -dbg packages? Is it not getting created? Is it missing a file? |
09:01.22 | tkp | http://rafb.net/p/JNnGJo66.html |
09:01.50 | koen|lab | heh |
09:01.54 | tkp | that clearly doesn't work.... I'll paste the output from my fudged version, which semi works |
09:01.55 | koen|lab | "Installing libesd0 blanks the screen on bootup" |
09:02.26 | zecke | tkp: You don't listen. If you fail you present a problem how do you expect to get any help? |
09:02.30 | zecke | <PROTECTED> |
09:02.37 | XorA | koen|lab: s/libesd0/gpe-conf/ |
09:02.47 | tkp | zecke: what? |
09:02.56 | tkp | what am I not listening to? |
09:03.50 | zecke | tkp: Q:"What packages are getting created and what do they contain?" ll in a random dir is not an answer! |
09:04.36 | zecke | tkp: specially if I ask for output of OE during the creation of the packages. So you don't want to listen, you fail to read, you fail to give an answer, you failed the turing test. |
09:04.43 | tkp | stc-shlibs & stc-shlibs-dbg |
09:04.46 | tkp | http://rafb.net/p/wm7Ivl35.html |
09:05.47 | zecke | tkp: poor boy, you really think you answered that question? |
09:05.59 | zecke | tkp: ll in a random dir is not output of OE |
09:06.12 | tkp | zecke: hold on please |
09:06.18 | zecke | tkp: and what is the packaged content? |
09:06.32 | RP | morning all |
09:06.48 | robtaylor | morn RP |
09:06.52 | XorA | yo RP |
09:06.58 | CIA-11 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r143c8e4d... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
09:06.58 | CIA-11 | linux-handhelds-2.6: Drop 2.6.20-hh2. Add 2.6.20-hh4. |
09:06.58 | CIA-11 | * Changes since 2.6.20-hh3: |
09:06.58 | CIA-11 | 1. htcathena port added. |
09:06.58 | CIA-11 | 2. Generic Device GPIO API (aka gpiodev) committed, based on virtual device |
09:06.58 | CIA-11 | methods pattern. |
09:07.00 | CIA-11 | 3. rs232_serial - generic driver for GPIO-controlled RS232 transceiver on |
09:07.04 | CIA-11 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r7ebe9518... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
09:07.06 | CIA-11 | linux-handhelds-2.6: Drop 2.6.20-hh1. Add 2.6.20-hh5. |
09:07.08 | CIA-11 | * Changes since 2.6.20-hh4: |
09:07.10 | CIA-11 | 1. ts-adc-debounce: Use spec-originated formula for pressure calculation, |
09:07.12 | CIA-11 | still needs tweaking for real world; implement pressure cut off properly, |
09:07.14 | CIA-11 | and handle jitter in more sustainable manner: now samples with too much |
09:07.16 | CIA-11 | jitter are ignored, not cause TS sampling to abort. Still needs further |
09:07.18 | CIA-11 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r546defc1... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-handhelds-2.6_cvs.bb): linux-handhelds-2.6 cvs: HEAD is 2.6.20-hh5 now. |
09:07.35 | tkp | zecke: the packaged content of each of the two packages that got created (stc-shlibs & stc-shlibs-dbg) is as per my last paste |
09:08.22 | djay-il | is it possible to compile in locale binaries with qemu-native on x86_64? |
09:08.44 | CIA-11 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r23f2457b... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-xserver/xserver-kdrive-common.inc): xserver-kdrive-common.inc: shuffle w100/imageon support a bit |
09:08.53 | CIA-11 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r589b03f4... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
09:08.53 | CIA-11 | xserver-kdrive-common: the tslib is patch not needed anymore in 1.2, |
09:08.53 | CIA-11 | the other two have to be modified |
09:09.00 | CIA-11 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r0e52f21a... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-xserver/xserver-kdrive_X11R7.1-1.1.0.bb): xserver-kdrive: change X11R7.1-1.1.0 to use xserver-kdrive-common.inc |
09:09.09 | CIA-11 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r533dbe85... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-xserver/xserver-kdrive_1.2.0.bb): xserver-kdrive: change 1.2.0 to use xserver-kdrive-common.inc |
09:09.17 | CIA-11 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * re0bcd233... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): xserver-kdrive: change git version to use xserver-kdrive-common.inc |
09:09.23 | CIA-11 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r53fc298d... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): xserver-kdrive: remove xcalibrate-1.2 patch, xcalibrate is upstream after all |
09:09.27 | CIA-11 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r1e8faa47... 10/ (1 packages/angstrom/task-angstrom-x11.bb): task-angstrom-x11: add keylaunch |
09:10.09 | tkp | zecke: here is the output from OE: http://rafb.net/p/s7bxhc80.html |
09:11.12 | tkp | I had to modify the bb to only try and install 3 libs - to keep the output small so it would fit in the paste bin (http://rafb.net/p/uB8GQZ12.html) |
09:11.48 | zecke | tkp: sorry, the time I'm willing to sacrifce is over. next time try to present your problem in a clean way so that people can actually help you |
09:12.11 | zecke | tkp: don't run with -DDD and it helps to paste the output of the tasks in question... |
09:12.28 | tkp | zecke: that is just one -D |
09:13.18 | tkp | and it creates the following files in the two packages that get created: http://rafb.net/p/pqsZlZ94.html |
09:13.26 | zecke | tkp: boy, you seem to expect something from -dbg. So where is reality not matching your expectations and why do you think it is a packaging issue? |
09:14.53 | tkp | zecke: when I run things through gdb, it finds the debug files from the .debug directories for all libs, except those installed by my shlibs-dbg package |
09:15.24 | tkp | zecke: I'm sorry I presented this problem in a bit of a muddled fashion |
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09:20.26 | zecke | tkp: but the files are getting installed? So it is unlikely to be a packaging bug |
09:20.42 | zecke | tkp: so use objdump and findout where .debug is getting searched |
09:25.32 | pH5 | what is up with monotone.openembedded.org? I want to push sirfred's gpe-conf fix. |
09:26.27 | koen|lab | pH5: try pushing to ewi or wolfson |
09:27.18 | pH5 | koen|lab: Seems like it's up again. I'll remember that for the future. |
09:27.58 | CIA-11 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r7fa457f0... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): gpe-conf: fix for http://bugs.linuxtogo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42 by Manuel Teira |
09:28.04 | koen|lab | zecke: did you see deepfish already? |
09:28.33 | zecke | nope |
09:28.59 | zecke | koen|lab: a browser? |
09:31.23 | koen|lab | zecke: yes |
09:31.27 | koen|lab | hey mickeyl |
09:31.31 | mickeyl | cheers |
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09:34.41 | do13_ | morning all |
09:35.43 | koen|lab | hey do13_ |
09:36.03 | do13_ | hi koen|lab |
09:40.03 | hrw | re |
09:41.20 | koen|lab | aaaargh |
09:41.40 | koen|lab | selecting text and copying to the clipboard crashes the t-spice app |
09:43.12 | RP | hi mickeyl , do13_, hrw |
09:43.37 | do13_ | hey Richard, Marcin, mickeyl |
10:00.56 | koen|lab | pH5: the imageon patch changes the way kdrive handles memory, so that might be breaking Xsdl |
10:02.28 | pH5 | koen|lab: yes. I'll remove imageon from the 1.2 build for now and let sirfred handle that. |
10:03.07 | hrw | maybe create xserver-kdrive-imageon recipe? |
10:03.46 | mr_nice | zecke: how can I printk mesg? definition is here http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au/lxr/source/include/linux/pm.h#L143. my pasebin output is here http://pastebin.ca/414821 generated with this code changes(line566) http://pastebin.ca/414824 |
10:03.49 | pH5 | hrw: I'd prefer if sirfred could update his patch not to break Xsdl and submit it upstream eventually. |
10:04.05 | koen|lab | like http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/packages/xorg-xserver/xserver-kdrive-imageon_X11R7.1-1.1.0.bb ? |
10:04.14 | hrw | koen|lab: ;D |
10:05.04 | koen|lab | hrm |
10:05.15 | koen|lab | CELF is routing me through chicago |
10:05.50 | koen|lab | so instead of taking 9 hours it will take 16 hours... |
10:10.38 | zecke | mr_nice: print msg.event as %d? |
10:11.06 | koen|lab | djay-il: from gladwell? |
10:11.32 | mr_nice | zecke: thx I will try that |
10:12.45 | koen|lab | "If the VBS (bulk-source-voltage) of the NMOS transistor is not zero then this transistor is |
10:12.45 | koen|lab | (probably) placed upside-down in your schematic (source at the top and drain at the bottom). This |
10:12.45 | koen|lab | has no effect on the operation of the transistor (it is a symmetrical device), but the results of the OP |
10:12.46 | koen|lab | analysis are wrong. To correct this, select the NMOS transistor in the schematic of your inverter and |
10:12.46 | koen|lab | push the Flip vert. button" |
10:12.51 | koen|lab | who designs crap like this? |
10:14.35 | CIA-11 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r8e23de0b... 10/ (12 files in 4 dirs): xserver-kdrive: clean up different patch versions, drop imageon from 1.2 for now |
10:20.47 | CIA-11 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * rb55671f4... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): xserver-kdrive: fix patch directory name for 1.2 |
10:23.14 | hrw | "console=ttyS0,115200 console=tty1" in CMDLINE will put kernel output on both or only first one? |
10:23.38 | mickey|hri | both |
10:25.18 | djay-il | koen|lab: yes :-) |
10:28.05 | hrw | thx |
10:30.07 | koen|lab | djay-il: thanks, I'll add it to the list |
10:30.26 | hrw | mickey|hri: can python have oneline if? |
10:30.46 | hrw | "if something then do this else do that" way |
10:30.56 | djay-il | koen: sure |
10:31.45 | djay-il | btw, I'm having failed fetch, how do I test the links? |
10:36.14 | djay-il | koen: I might be wrong, but pcre-4.4.bb cannot be built, and libpcre-4.4 as well, as they don't exist on URI anymore |
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10:37.09 | djay-il | sorry, libpcre-4.4.bb |
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10:53.14 | XorA | does oe_libinstall only work on libtooled libs? |
11:09.12 | hrw | http://pastebin.ca/414870 - for review |
11:13.12 | djay-il | how do I add my own package? |
11:13.17 | djay-il | into dev? |
11:17.45 | hrw | submit to bugtracker |
11:18.03 | djay-il | but I should create it first, right? |
11:18.25 | djay-il | is it possible to have multiple package versions? If so, which one got chosen for build? |
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11:20.11 | florian | gi all |
11:20.14 | florian | eh hi |
11:24.32 | schurig | koen: the gcc-cross 4.1.2 made modprobe (from modutils) segfault, but I did not dig further. It works with gcc-cross-4.1.1 |
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11:37.33 | koen|lab | RMK uses gcc 4.4 |
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11:37.59 | CIA-11 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r0530cbc2... 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): xserver-kdrive-1.2: fix enable-tslib.patch |
11:38.17 | ozgurcocuk | hi |
11:38.46 | ozgurcocuk | exit |
11:40.13 | koen|lunch | pH5: is it wise to try kdrive 1.2 now? |
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11:40.47 | slapin_nb | hi, all! |
11:40.54 | slapin_nb | !oebug 2060 |
11:40.56 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 2060, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-03-29 04:46 |
11:40.57 | cdbot2 | * * slapinid(AT)gmail.com: Angstrom build failure (using 4.1.2 toolchain) |
11:40.57 | pH5 | koen|lunch: yes. Xfbdev works on the magician |
11:40.57 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2060 |
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11:47.59 | koen|lunch | pH5: libxcalibrate doesn't have a release yet? |
11:50.27 | slapin_nb | is OE.dev supposed to build using 4.1.2 gcc-cross, or not? |
11:50.38 | slapin_nb | psokolovsky_, |
11:51.20 | pH5 | koen|lunch: I don't know of any. |
11:53.01 | koen|lab | ok |
11:54.40 | slapin_nb | bug 2060 seems to be libtool problem, am I right? |
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11:55.21 | koen|lab | slapin_nb: looks that way |
11:55.27 | koen|lab | slapin_nb: try rebuilding libtool cross |
11:56.09 | pH5 | koen|lab: I'm attaching some of our configuration patches to the freedesktop.org bugzilla. |
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11:56.20 | koen|lab | pH5: thanks |
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11:56.44 | koen|lab | although I suspect kdrive bugzilla is just a fancy /dev/null |
11:58.35 | CIA-11 | 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r30dd54ac... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): |
11:58.35 | CIA-11 | packages/apt/apt_0.6.46.2.bb |
11:58.35 | CIA-11 | packages/apt/apt.inc |
11:58.35 | CIA-11 | packages/apt/apt-package.inc : build and package shared libs at all times. |
11:58.50 | pH5 | koen|lab: yeah, then it's just for my own conscience ;) |
11:59.46 | slapin_nb | koen, it is build from scratch. So I doubt that will help... I'm trying it though. Strange it breaks that late though... |
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12:06.48 | CIA-11 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r8bddcec8... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-xserver/xserver-kdrive/devfs.patch): xserver-kdrive: drop devfs.patch, nobody uses it anymore. |
12:06.51 | CIA-11 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r8c94a3c2... 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): xserver-kdrive-1.2: simplify enable-tslib.patch |
12:07.15 | koen|lab | aargh |
12:07.17 | koen|lab | XorA, pH5: ipkg-make-index doesn't know about epochs.... |
12:07.24 | XorA | koen|lab: heh heh |
12:07.33 | XorA | koen|lab: btw mtn pull and build apt |
12:08.26 | slapin_nb | anybody remembers where to get fosdem materials? |
12:08.34 | koen|lab | slapin_nb: fosdem.org |
12:08.44 | koen|lab | or <year>.fosdem.org |
12:09.03 | chouimat | morning |
12:10.28 | koen|lab | viviji1, vivijim: apt builds now |
12:11.36 | XorA | koen|lab: so that proves the debian EABI effort is stalled :-) |
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12:16.28 | koen|lab | how does ipkg-make-index decide to move packages to the morgue? |
12:16.46 | koen|lab | <PROTECTED> |
12:16.46 | koen|lab | <PROTECTED> |
12:17.03 | koen|lab | that seems to the case it's looking at, but I have no idea what it does |
12:17.14 | koen|lab | (and why it doesn't handle epochs) |
12:17.24 | XorA | koen|lab: all I know is +cvs is guaranteed to end up morgued |
12:19.32 | viviji1 | hi koen, I've noticed, thanks! :) |
12:19.38 | hrw | florian: you built sdk with oe? |
12:19.39 | florian | configure tries to run a test that is cached in the site files already... |
12:19.47 | florian | hrw: i try |
12:19.52 | hrw | florian: me too |
12:20.10 | koen|lab | you have two weeks left ;) |
12:20.19 | florian | hrw: it looks like all the stuff is in bad condition... |
12:21.10 | florian | hrw: meta-sdk needs to be updated, it builds blsolete packages... not speaking about the compilers. |
12:21.14 | hrw | koen|lab: on elc you will present working recipes? |
12:21.21 | pH5 | koen|lab: there is epoch support in ipkg.py, perhaps it doesn't work. |
12:21.27 | hrw | florian: I first want to build gcc-cross-sdk working |
12:21.45 | viviji1 | koen we decided to use oe to build mamona... First of all we are trying to code a stable distro conf files and then we will ask for repository write permission and start to really contribute to oe... |
12:21.56 | koen|lab | viviji1: cool! |
12:22.03 | pH5 | koen|lab: the important part in -make-index is that packages.add_package(pkg) either adds the package (if it is newer) and returns 0, or doesn't add it at all and returns 1. |
12:22.18 | koen|lab | ah |
12:22.19 | koen|lab | http://rafb.net/p/jPbfQw83.html |
12:22.34 | koen|lab | I can't make heads or tails of that snippet |
12:22.41 | XorA | its all python to me |
12:23.18 | florian | hrw: i found out that it is quite likely that one of the patches breaks it - without all the patches it builds (but of course it is not what you want). |
12:23.31 | koen|lab | http://rafb.net/p/cX8T7R74.html <- add_package function |
12:24.22 | florian | hrw: I try to define a useful toolchain to become imported into Scratchbox - that's more idiot-proof ;) |
12:24.23 | koen|lab | http://rafb.net/p/Kdw1qW81.html <- compare version function |
12:26.18 | florian | now that &%§$ startup-notification breaks... lf_cv_sane_realloc is in the site files but it still tries to run the test |
12:26.36 | koen|lab | http://rafb.net/p/nv3dBS73.html <- parse_version seems to handle epochs |
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12:26.58 | pH5 | koen|lab: I'd try put a debug print in compare_version. "%s vs %s, %s wins". |
12:27.17 | pH5 | s/put/to put/ |
12:27.31 | psokolovsky_ | pH5: fyi, I have fix for i-m-i braindeadness regarding version compare |
12:36.42 | koen|lab | pH5, psokolovsky_, XorA: http://rafb.net/p/GNVmXE66.html always falls through to "we don't need no stinking epochs" |
12:38.07 | pH5 | koen|lab: so the version parsing is broken. is .epoch always 0? |
12:38.18 | psokolovsky_ | koen|lab: i.e. you suspect that it mis-parses epoch'ed version string? because "math" is right apparently ;-) |
12:40.01 | psokolovsky_ | !oebug 2061 |
12:40.02 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 2061, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-03-29 05:42 |
12:40.03 | cdbot2 | * * pmiscml(AT)gmail.com: Fix broken version comparison in ipkg-make-index |
12:40.04 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2061 |
12:40.42 | psokolovsky_ | koen|lab, pH5, RP: Can you gentlemen review ^ and tell me if it's ok as is, or would need RFC on the list? |
12:41.13 | koen|lab | hmmm |
12:41.14 | koen|lab | print "We don't need no stinking epochs. self: %s, ref: %s " % self.epoch, ref.epoch |
12:41.20 | koen|lab | that isn't valid python apparently |
12:41.40 | psokolovsky_ | koen: use braces after % |
12:41.47 | psokolovsky_ | ( ... ) |
12:42.26 | koen|lab | psokolovsky_: there's debug left in your patch |
12:43.01 | psokolovsky_ | koen|lab: yeah, so people can try that it is (now) works as expected. can be removed for commit, of course |
12:43.08 | slapin_nb | psokolovsky_, koen|lab btw, I always wanted to ask for ref what an epoch is regarding to versions? is it debian-specific thing? |
12:43.30 | psokolovsky_ | slapin_nb: kind of super-version |
12:43.45 | psokolovsky_ | also, an integer only |
12:44.35 | koen|lab | http://rafb.net/p/USDVZ641.html <- epochs are always zero |
12:45.37 | koen|lab | heh |
12:45.49 | koen|lab | ackage: xserver-kdrive |
12:45.49 | koen|lab | Version: 1.2.0-r2 |
12:46.02 | koen|lab | IOW, OE doesn't store the epoch in the resulting package |
12:46.51 | psokolovsky_ | lol |
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12:47.37 | koen|lab | fields.append(["Version: %s-%s\n", ['PV', 'PR']]) |
12:47.37 | pH5 | koen: ouch. |
12:47.38 | koen|lab | I guess that needs some form of if(PE>0){'PE'} |
12:47.38 | pH5 | so I didn't commit my OE changes, RP only updated bitbake. |
12:47.38 | pH5 | let me see... |
12:47.38 | slapin_nb | psokolovsky_, so it overrides normal version? like most significent part of it? |
12:48.51 | psokolovsky_ | slapin_nb: consider it is extra component preprended on the left of normal version. but it's purpose is to allow big changes of versioning schemes (like we have now) |
12:52.14 | CIA-11 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r4887947d... 10/ (1 classes/package_ipk.bbclass): package_ipk.bbclass: add epoch support |
12:52.18 | CIA-11 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r7ac1e35a... 10/ (1 conf/bitbake.conf): bitbake.conf: add epoch support |
12:52.23 | pH5 | koen: sorry about that |
12:52.46 | slapin_nb | psokolovsky_, ah, I see, thanks! |
12:53.01 | zecke_ | nice |
12:54.04 | djay-il | do you |
12:54.07 | djay-il | oops |
12:54.30 | djay-il | I have a problem fetching from anoncvs.gnome.org...anyone can help? |
12:54.42 | zecke_ | djay-il: GNOME switched to svn |
12:54.57 | djay-il | yea, and how would I solve it? |
12:55.01 | zecke_ | djay-il: update OE and make check if this issue was already fixed |
12:55.11 | zecke_ | djay-il: if not fix the SRC_URI pointing to anoncvs |
12:55.23 | zecke_ | djay-il: and don't forget to send a patch/file a bugreport |
12:55.26 | djay-il | OE is superuperupdated |
12:56.10 | djay-il | hm, ok |
12:57.03 | djay-il | bug 1921 |
12:57.11 | djay-il | zecke_: thanks |
12:58.00 | pH5 | is it right that package_deb.bbclass sets Architecture to TARGET_ARCH and not PACKAGE_ARCH? |
12:59.08 | CIA-11 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r16aa4528... 10/ (1 classes/package_deb.bbclass): package_deb.bbclass: add epoch support |
13:02.55 | CIA-11 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * rc3806da7... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-lib/libx11_1.1.1.bb): libx11-1.1.1: makekeys.diff is applied upstream |
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13:08.05 | koen|lab | pH5: could you send a mail to the list saying we now have proper epoch support? |
13:09.52 | hrw | pH5: xorg-font need mkfontdir mkfontscale in rdepends |
13:10.47 | pH5 | hrw: can you fix it? |
13:11.19 | slapin_nb | anybody could explain to me how could I get list of .bbs executed for some particular target? |
13:11.25 | hrw | I have partial fix |
13:11.29 | koen|lab | slapin_nb: bitbake -nv? |
13:12.09 | hrw | -v is not needed. -n is enough |
13:14.41 | CIA-11 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r0d2e69a0... 10/ (1 classes/package.bbclass): |
13:14.41 | CIA-11 | package.bbclass: added support for private libraries (used only in package) |
13:14.41 | CIA-11 | - if package contain libraries which are not used outside then add PRIVATE_LIBS |
13:14.41 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
13:14.46 | CIA-11 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rd480f9ca... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): |
13:14.46 | CIA-11 | dates/openmoko-dates: mark libgtkdatesview.so as PRIVATE, make them conflict |
13:14.46 | CIA-11 | - both packages provide libgtkdatesview.so.0 which is not used outside of dates |
13:14.48 | CIA-11 | - both packages provide binaries of same names |
13:14.52 | CIA-11 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rfa0b91e7... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/preferred-xorg-versions-X11R7.1.inc): X11R7.1: prefer libxfont-native 1.2.0 as we use freetype 2.3.x |
13:14.56 | CIA-11 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r40299631... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): acpid: use update-rc.d class |
13:15.01 | CIA-11 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r06419316... 10/ (1 packages/aumix/aumix_2.8.bb): aumix: added ncurses to dependencies |
13:15.09 | CIA-11 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r410b421e... 10/ (1 packages/efl/edje-native_0.5.0.037.bb): edje-native: fix staging |
13:15.17 | CIA-11 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r626f2c6d... 10/ (1 packages/gpe-mini-browser/gpe-mini-browser_svn.bb): gpe-mini-browser: do not comment code but remove it. we have SCM |
13:15.25 | CIA-11 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rddfdd404... 10/ (1 packages/gstreamer/gst-plugins-good_0.10.5.bb): gst-plugins-good: depend on gst-plugins-base (from Poky) |
13:15.29 | slapin_nb | I just found that running with -b doesn't runs out of memory on my VPS |
13:15.31 | CIA-11 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r3d41fdda... 10/ (6 files in 2 dirs): hostap-daemon: do not depend on hostap-modules as they are 2.4 only now |
13:15.37 | CIA-11 | 03Marek 07org.oe.dev * r9cb8a3c2... 10/ (1 packages/picocom/picocom_1.4.bb): picocom: fix building - close #1972 |
13:15.43 | slapin_nb | while just bitbake target does. |
13:15.43 | pH5 | hrw: what depends on libxfont-native? |
13:15.44 | CIA-11 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r791cff22... 10/ (1 packages/starling/starling_0.1.bb): starling: fixed dependencies - close #2055 |
13:15.48 | hrw | r0d2e69a0... changeset will be reverted |
13:15.50 | CIA-11 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r33a1439e... 10/ (1 packages/uucp/uucp_1.07.bb): uucp: package /usr/spool/uucp/ (empty) for cu |
13:15.53 | hrw | pH5: mkfontdir-native |
13:16.14 | hrw | pH5: some stuff which is needed by font-misc-misc |
13:16.17 | pH5 | ah. so I should provide libfont-native for 1.2.7, too. |
13:16.25 | hrw | thx |
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13:18.26 | pH5 | hrw: mkfontdir-native needs libxfont-native added to its DEPENDS, then. |
13:18.57 | hrw | maybe |
13:19.10 | hrw | ~lart python for lack of string.isEmpty() |
13:19.11 | ibot | slaps python upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh for lack of string.isEmpty() |
13:20.01 | florian | String objects... tsts |
13:28.29 | CIA-11 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r1dce7867... 10/ (1 classes/package.bbclass): disapproval of revision '0d2e69a0248ac99b9f990dfb473d63c9653f0f7c' |
13:28.34 | CIA-11 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r0374910c... 10/ (1 classes/package.bbclass): package.bbclass: fix build problem related to private libs |
13:32.49 | CIA-11 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * rde029d6b... 10/ (1 conf/machine/magician.conf): magician.conf: add ohci-hcd kernel module, don't build jffs2 images for now |
13:35.14 | mwester | strings as objects - such a waste of resources! hrw: use perl instead! ;) |
13:35.33 | koen|lab | pH5: MACHINE_FEATURES += usbhost? |
13:35.44 | pH5 | oh. |
13:35.50 | pH5 | can I commit http://en.pastebin.ca/415004? |
13:36.19 | koen|lab | pH5: we have an scm, so no need to comment :) |
13:36.19 | pH5 | what about the phone MACHINE_FEATURE - is there a way to pull gsmd into an angstrom-x11-image already? |
13:36.38 | koen|lab | pH5: add it to taskbase or task-angstrom? |
13:36.46 | pH5 | eh :) |
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13:37.24 | pH5 | we can assume that those who build their own image have a current u-boot loaded, right? |
13:37.49 | koen|lab | yes |
13:38.04 | koen|lab | if you want to flash an image you should be smart enough to look up how to flash it |
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13:44.25 | CIA-11 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r65a1a083... 10/ (1 conf/machine/magician.conf): |
13:44.25 | CIA-11 | magician.conf: add usbhost MACHINE_FEATURE, drop kernel modules that are |
13:44.25 | CIA-11 | taken care of by task-base |
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13:54.38 | CIA-11 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * rf727073e... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-handhelds-2.6/hx4700/defconfig): linux-handhelds-2.6: update hx4700 defconfig for 2.6.20 |
13:54.43 | CIA-11 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * ra6b118bb... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-handhelds-2.6/magician/defconfig): linux-handhelds-2.6: update magician defconfig for 2.6.20 |
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13:57.43 | vlo | hello everyone |
13:58.14 | pH5 | hi vlo |
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14:00.01 | vlo | I have cross-built a C++ program I have written for our robot, and when I run it on the OE system, I get this lib information version "warning": http://pastebin.ca/415028 |
14:00.14 | vlo | someone knows how to fix it ? |
14:01.06 | zecke | I have bever seen this :) |
14:02.28 | vlo | the waiting for connection is ok, it's in my program, written by me ;) (just in case) |
14:03.10 | zecke | vlo: I would say, ignore it :) |
14:03.25 | zecke | vlo: we might have just stripped this information from the binary |
14:03.54 | schurig | hrw: wow, you're still using UUCP? (I remember using it in ancient times between Linux 2.0 and SCO whatever) |
14:05.27 | hrw | schurig: neo1973 came with it. I switched to picocom |
14:06.57 | vlo | zecke: OK ... I could ignore it, the program seems to work correctly, but I just wanted to ask in case it was something well known ... (I guess I'm not the first one writing C++ app with STL on OE systems) |
14:09.25 | meister | mmh, 1mb left on my mem, need to clean some apps to do a successful ipkg upgrade |
14:10.41 | zecke | vlo: e.g. inhibit stripping of binaries and check if the error goes away |
14:13.23 | vlo | zecke: euh, what do you mean by this ? |
14:20.05 | Crofton__ | I don't see this on my c++ stuff |
14:20.23 | Crofton__ | vlo, I think there is some variable you can set to prevent stripping occuring |
14:22.25 | zecke | vlo: I assume that arm-linux-strip removes something from libstdc++ what it would like to have |
14:22.50 | zecke | vlo: we have a flag IIRC it is speleed INIHIBT_STRIP which inihibits the call of arm-linux-strip |
14:27.43 | mwester | :D I ar u suftwear unjunear, hoo nedes speel chekkers? |
14:28.30 | schurig | vlo: I once wrote an STL programm for OE, with gcc-4.1.1, glibc2.3.5+cvsSOMETHING and did not see your linker message |
14:28.48 | schurig | vlo: I could link without problem against libstdc++.so |
14:29.02 | schurig | vlo: what happens when you "file libstdc++.so" ? |
14:30.09 | schurig | vlo: I get this: |
14:30.13 | schurig | $ file tmp/cross/arm-linux/lib/libstdc++.so.6.0.8 |
14:30.13 | schurig | tmp/cross/arm-linux/lib/libstdc++.so.6.0.8: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, ARM, version 1, not stripped |
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14:34.30 | pH5 | hi lrg |
14:40.24 | koen|lab | schurig: 'cu' is part of uucp |
14:40.44 | koen|lab | schurig: 'cu' supports colour terminals and resizing while minicom doesn't |
14:40.48 | koen|lab | hey lrg |
14:41.59 | hrw | koen|lab: tried picocom? |
14:42.12 | hrw | enough for dumb usage of gsm modem ;D |
14:42.36 | koen|lab | hrw: no yet |
14:42.40 | koen|lab | not* |
14:46.18 | lrg | morning all |
14:46.22 | slapin_nb | do anybody knows some tool for python memory profiling? |
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15:09.13 | Crofton|laptop | well, you use a lot of extra cpu time .... |
15:10.34 | koen|lab | Crofton|laptop: Sigma-delta ADC |
15:10.39 | koen|lab | so no CPU :) |
15:11.07 | djay-il | koen|lab: 300Mhz signal then ? :-) |
15:11.18 | Crofton|laptop | but not very many bits, right? |
15:11.44 | meister | who can i set a french keyboard in console with familiar ? |
15:11.46 | koen|lab | djay-il: 600Mhz (nyquist) |
15:12.05 | koen|lab | Crofton: 60dB SINAD, so ~10 bits |
15:12.13 | djay-il | koen|lab: ? why the doubling..? |
15:12.45 | koen|lab | djay-il: you normally sample at 2x the frequency you want |
15:12.51 | djay-il | ok |
15:13.04 | djay-il | ha, 60x10 nice |
15:14.02 | djay-il | actually, electronics in lab doesn't work around me...so it's no surprise |
15:17.50 | koen|lab | Crofton|laptop: the team with the lowest noise && lowest power ADC designs wins some beer :) |
15:18.09 | Crofton|laptop | hmmm, you have a better program than ours |
15:18.43 | koen|lab | we get grades as well :) |
15:18.46 | Crofton|laptop | this is some form of class project? |
15:19.41 | koen|lab | course project |
15:19.56 | koen|lab | the ESP course has lab assigments, an exam and 3 projects |
15:20.03 | Crofton|laptop | and beer |
15:20.06 | koen|lab | :) |
15:20.11 | koen|lab | only for the SD project |
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15:24.00 | koen|lab | RP,hrw : you might want to merge back the working recipe for apt into poky |
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15:25.23 | hrw | koen|lab: thx |
15:26.38 | koen|lab | hrw: and add an EXTRA_OECONF_append_poky |
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15:31.53 | hrw | cu |
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16:14.37 | pH5 | Keysym not found, for key definition '????Pressed XF86PowerDown' |
16:15.17 | pH5 | keylaunch fails with that. I remember I've seen it before. is this a problem with my libx11? |
16:15.35 | koen | linux-libc-headers iirc |
16:17.12 | pH5 | XStringToKeysym("XF86PowerDown") returns 0. But why? XStringToKeysym("F12") works. |
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16:26.54 | apaulsen | I would like to put a file both in STAGING_DATADIR and the base package. It looks like do_stage() is working with files that are in the install/${PN}-dev/usr directory. Can I make do_stage() install files from install/${PN} instead? Or can I make a file appear in both places from do_install()? |
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16:28.21 | koen | apaulsen: do_stage operates on ${S}, not on ${D} |
16:29.12 | gremlin[it] | good evening to all |
16:29.36 | koen | hey gremlin[it] |
16:29.44 | gremlin[it] | hi koen ! |
16:29.59 | koen | apt working, PE working, xorg 7.2, gsmd fixes |
16:30.13 | koen | seems today was a productive day for OE engineers |
16:32.23 | pH5 | koen: still, it doesn't look like we'll make 2007.1 :) |
16:32.40 | koen | 2007.1 was 2 months ago :) |
16:33.59 | pH5 | koen: I started reading that 2007.Q1 in february :) |
16:34.22 | koen | koen@h2200:~$ uptime |
16:34.23 | koen | <PROTECTED> |
16:34.30 | koen | angstrom seems to be pretty stable |
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16:40.39 | koen | pH5: what would you want in an angstrom release that isn't present now? |
16:42.48 | pH5 | X11R7.3 |
16:42.57 | mr_nice | ot: is there a way to compile/emulate openmoko on x86 desktop to programm an applikation for it? |
16:44.04 | koen | pH5: btw, no more diet-x11? |
16:44.19 | koen | mr_nice: MACHINE=native ; bitbake openmoko-devel-image |
16:44.32 | mr_nice | koen: thx |
16:44.49 | mr_nice | koen: I will try that |
16:45.44 | pH5 | koen: no time for that yet. did you have time to work on your idea of more than two libx11 flavours? |
16:46.00 | koen | not yet |
16:46.05 | koen | I forgot about ut |
16:46.08 | pH5 | actually, I just notice that even basic libx11-1.1.1 doesn't build correctly |
16:46.11 | koen | thanks for reminding me |
16:46.29 | pH5 | up to install everything is fine, but package generation breaks. I wonder if PE is confusing shlibs |
16:46.35 | pH5 | see |
16:47.20 | koen | pH5: http://rafb.net/p/nU1Y3577.html |
16:48.04 | pH5 | hm.. |
16:50.18 | koen | btw, we need http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MUOn_nJmRA for people with usbhost and mice |
16:50.56 | pH5 | strange. last time my libx11 was empty. but still, shouldn't it be renamed to libx11-6 or something like that? |
16:51.09 | koen | pH5: bitbake -i? |
16:51.39 | koen | bitbake -i generates broken packages in 1.8 and trunk |
16:51.58 | koen | it should be renamed, but it isn't 'cause libx11-xcb is there as well |
16:52.36 | pH5 | aah, thanks. how can I fix that? |
16:53.00 | pH5 | (no, not bitbake -i. but I can't reproduce it now. maybe it's just a thinko) |
16:53.13 | koen | PACKAGE =+ libx11-xcb, FILES_libx11-xcb = "<you know>" |
16:54.23 | pH5 | two handed interaction with gimp or blender would be nice, but not necessarily for handheld devices. |
16:55.57 | apaulsen | koen|away: thanks, that was what I needed |
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17:06.18 | vivijim | hi koen, I'm starting mamona conf files from scratch and I could not figure out how to compile to arm eabi instead of pure arm... I'm trying to read the angstrom files trying to figure it out but without success... can you help me to figure it out? |
17:06.44 | koen | vivijim: look for TARGET_OS |
17:09.16 | pH5 | koen: thanks for that PACKAGE hint |
17:10.55 | koen | pH5: http://rafb.net/p/3990oY50.html |
17:10.58 | koen | like that? |
17:11.17 | psokolovsky_ | | configure: error: XCB requires xsltproc. |
17:11.18 | vivijim | koen uhm got it... but I can not understand that expression from angstrom... is the simple corect way to use linux-gnueabi or linux-gnueabi-arm ? |
17:11.24 | psokolovsky_ | NOTE: package libxcb-0.9.93: failed |
17:11.29 | psokolovsky_ | bitbake 1.6 |
17:11.49 | koen | vivijim: linux-gnueabi |
17:12.01 | vivijim | koen thanks |
17:12.13 | koen | psokolovsky_: seems you need xsltproc-native |
17:12.18 | pH5 | bbl |
17:15.00 | psokolovsky_ | i.e. it's not PE leak? apparently no |
17:15.13 | psokolovsky_ | and ercipe has DEPEND on it, but commented. weird. |
17:16.24 | psokolovsky_ | aha, so there's no xsltproc-native. cool. |
17:16.42 | florian | vivijim: what is mamona? |
17:17.00 | koen | vivijim: SDK/distro for the nokia tablets |
17:17.11 | koen | ehm |
17:17.16 | koen | s/vivijim/florian/ |
17:17.23 | vivijim | florian: http://blog.vivi.eng.br/ |
17:17.41 | psokolovsky_ | but there's libxslt-native. weird. |
17:17.45 | vivijim | florian: sorry: http://labs.vivi.eng.br/blog/?p=10 |
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17:19.42 | florian | vivijim: oh, that sounds pretty good :-) |
17:19.48 | vivijim | florian: we already had a linux from scratch running over qemu to build all deb packages, but now we are moving starting to use OE as our build system to increase or community interaction and avoid monkey work! ;) |
17:20.21 | vivijim | s/or/our/ |
17:20.52 | florian | vivijim: that's a good idea... OE is something quite a lot projects are involved in |
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17:24.23 | vivijim | yes, we believe so! |
17:33.02 | Ifaistos | does anyone know which package provides adds dbm support ? |
17:33.10 | koen | pH5: could you commit the ./xserver-kdrive/optional-xkb.patch that applies to kdrive 1.2.0? |
17:33.13 | Ifaistos | gdbm does not work for perl |
17:33.48 | vivijim | koen florian or someone else: the arm eabi is softfloat by default, but n800 is hardfloat... so how can I say that into my distro? TARGET_FPU_n800="hard" and TARGET_FPU_nokia770="soft" ? it will work? (yes I'm starting to code a conf file to n800 too) |
17:34.02 | koen | vivijim: yes |
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17:34.39 | sirfred | Good evening all |
17:34.45 | koen | hey sirfred |
17:35.02 | sirfred | koen: Next week I'm borrowing a hx4700 |
17:35.08 | koen | sirfred: cool |
17:35.15 | sirfred | koen: As I have a pair of holy days, I expect to make some progress. |
17:35.25 | koen | sirfred: ph5 should have instruction on how to boot linux from sd instead of flashing it |
17:35.39 | sirfred | koen: That should be nice, I don't want to modify my friend's pda |
17:35.59 | sirfred | So, I don't need to touch the internal flash, do I ? |
17:36.02 | florian | vivijim: interesting... why dies the n800 default to hardfloat? |
17:36.08 | florian | s/dies/does/ |
17:38.45 | vivijim | florian: I don't have idea.. all I know is that n800 use harfloat vfp2 ... koen: just "hard" or it needs some more specific like "vfp2" ? |
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17:40.09 | sirfred | It seems there're still some problem with gpe backlight management |
17:40.43 | florian | sirfred: oh |
17:40.46 | koen | vivijim: 'hard', eabi defaults to vfp |
17:41.00 | florian | vivijim: ok :-) |
17:41.09 | sirfred | florian: Oh, you're the florian that accepted my patch, aren't you? :-) |
17:41.28 | florian | sirfred: yes :-) |
17:41.36 | sirfred | florian: Nice to meet you |
17:41.42 | koen | vivijim: 'require conf/machine/include/tune-arm1136jf-s.conf' |
17:41.58 | koen | in n800.conf |
17:42.00 | florian | sirfred: are there more issues? |
17:42.01 | sirfred | It seems that when the backlight goes off , it never goes on again, but I'm not sure, I've just experimented it |
17:42.14 | florian | oops |
17:42.16 | sirfred | florian: I executed gpe-conf task_backlight and says: |
17:42.17 | sirfred | on 0 |
17:42.18 | koen | vivijim: you can use mx31ads.conf for an example (also 1136 core with vfp) |
17:42.30 | sirfred | It seems an odd value to be on |
17:42.32 | florian | I need to try this with an up to date image here as well... |
17:43.02 | sirfred | florian: Perhaps it's just a missconfiguration here |
17:43.46 | sirfred | A question about gstreamer. Should it inherit gconf, is that needed? |
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17:53.14 | mrdata | hi all |
17:53.29 | mrdata | mr_nice: hi |
18:04.01 | jonek | hi, does open embedded or open moko have a Google SoC proposal regarding Java (phoneME advanced) support? |
18:08.10 | hrw | morning |
18:08.19 | hrw | vivijim: Poky has n800 config and kernel |
18:08.28 | sirfred | Hello hrw |
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18:08.45 | hrw | vivijim: Poky has n800 config and kernel |
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18:09.11 | hrw | I do not plan to integrate it in OE (lack of hardware to test and dislike of maemo) |
18:09.31 | hrw | hi greentux |
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18:09.58 | cyrilRomain | morning all |
18:10.05 | koen | hey cyrilRomain |
18:10.05 | greentux | hi hrw, and you have more or less sparetime in your new job? |
18:10.16 | cyrilRomain | hi koen |
18:10.20 | hrw | koen: did you tried dates/openmoko-dates with new package.bbclass? |
18:10.24 | pH5 | re |
18:10.25 | hrw | hi cyrilRomain |
18:10.36 | koen | hrw: yes, but I haven't checked depends yet |
18:10.43 | cyrilRomain | hi hrw :) |
18:10.49 | hrw | greentux: usually less |
18:11.00 | vivijim | hrw: but can you share it with us? |
18:11.03 | hrw | koen: rm tmp/staging/*/shlibs/*dates* first |
18:11.44 | hrw | vivijim: Poky SVN is open for anonymous access |
18:11.44 | greentux | hrw: thats the freelancer problem |
18:11.46 | vivi|note | # glibc: |
18:11.47 | vivi|note | PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/libiconv ?= "glibc" |
18:11.47 | vivi|note | PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/libintl ?= "glibc" |
18:11.47 | vivi|note | PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/libc ?= "glibc" |
18:11.47 | vivi|note | #NPTL stuff |
18:11.47 | vivi|note | PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/${TARGET_PREFIX}libc-for-gcc = "glibc-intermediate" |
18:11.49 | vivi|note | PREFERRED_VERSION_glibc ?= "2.5" |
18:11.51 | vivi|note | PREFERRED_VERSION_glibc-intermediate ?= "2.5" |
18:11.53 | vivi|note | PREFERRED_VERSION_glibc-initial ?= "2.5" |
18:11.58 | hrw | ~pastebin |
18:12.04 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or http://rafb.net/paste/, or http://pastebin.com is usually painfully too slow and unresponsive to use, use one of the other pastebin sites, or dpaste.com is a very nice pastebin as well |
18:12.04 | pH5 | koen, sirfred: are there news on imageon on hx4700? |
18:12.04 | koen | vivi|note: rafb.net/paste |
18:12.09 | koen | pH5: not yet |
18:12.27 | sirfred | pH5: Next week I'm borrowing one from a friend |
18:12.32 | hrw | greentux: but I like that job ;) |
18:12.52 | greentux | hrw thats the most important |
18:13.07 | pH5 | sirfred: ah, good :) |
18:13.19 | sirfred | pH5: An easy and *fast* procedure to have linux running on a SD ? |
18:14.49 | sirfred | pH5: Without need to modify anything in the machine, is that possible? |
18:14.49 | hrw | sirfred: haret? |
18:14.49 | pH5 | haret. |
18:14.49 | vivi|note | koen sory about this paste, what I want to know is that is this sufficient to make it build using glibc-2.5... because my build is using glib2.3 and broken :( |
18:14.49 | hrw | sirfred: let your friend do full backup first |
18:14.49 | sirfred | hrw: :) |
18:14.49 | koen | vivi|note: copy the angstrom configs :) |
18:14.49 | CIA-11 | 03florian 07org.oe.dev * re537e433... 10/ (1 packages/libgpewidget/libgpewidget_0.115.bb): libgpewidget: Add 0.115 |
18:14.50 | CIA-11 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * ra5a1bb0d... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): sapwood: fixed packaging, recreated patch |
18:14.50 | sirfred | hrw: I just expect not to return him a beautiful brick |
18:14.50 | CIA-11 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r39d93a99... 10/ (1 packages/gimp/gimp_2.3.10.bb): gimp: fix debug packaging |
18:14.50 | hrw | vivijim: not copy - include them |
18:14.50 | CIA-11 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * ra169800c... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
18:14.50 | CIA-11 | libgsmd: add TI/HTC GSM chipset support and ldisc switching support for magician |
18:14.50 | CIA-11 | - this is a temporary measure and will be reverted once machine plugin support is in place |
18:14.50 | CIA-11 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * rdc90a1a9... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): magician: add N_TIHTC to handhelds-linux-2.6 defconfig and machine.conf |
18:14.52 | CIA-11 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r7bdad482... 10/ (1 conf/machine/magician.conf): magician.conf: autoload n_tihtc.ko |
18:14.56 | CIA-11 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r9bc9e7c2... 10/ (1 conf/machine/hx4700.conf): hx4700.conf: add voltage switching, bluetooth modules |
18:15.05 | CIA-11 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r4c365b71... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
18:15.05 | CIA-11 | libgsmd: gsmd/magician: add patch to wait for the interpreter |
18:15.05 | CIA-11 | to be ready before sending |
18:15.13 | CIA-11 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * rc017d627... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-lib/libx11_1.1.1.bb): libx11-1.1.1: fix packaging |
18:15.23 | CIA-11 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r07c919d1... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf): angstrom: prefer gcc 4.1.2 as native compiler (cross versions are still 4.1.1) |
18:15.31 | CIA-11 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rb4020cab... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): php: dropped 4.3.6/4.3.10 |
18:15.43 | hrw | cia awake finally |
18:15.46 | koen | go cia |
18:16.05 | vivijim | hrw: sorry, where should I include? |
18:16.38 | pH5 | heh. I'm third active dev on cia.vc, that's a first. |
18:16.41 | hrw | vivijim: if you use own distro then you can copy from angstrom ones or include angstrom one in your distro config |
18:16.42 | CIA-11 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * rbb10d8a3... 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): xserver-kdrive-1.2.0: missing optional-xkb.patch |
18:16.44 | sirfred | I see that haret is a bootloader that runs from windows CE. |
18:16.47 | CIA-11 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r37479993... 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): kdrive 1.2: rediff optional-xkb.patch |
18:16.53 | koen | heh |
18:17.02 | pH5 | that's probably a sign I should think more before committing. |
18:17.02 | hrw | sirfred: exactly |
18:17.07 | hrw | ~haret |
18:17.11 | ibot | methinks haret is HAndheld Reverse Engineering Toolkit, available at anoncvs@cvs.handhelds.org:/cvs/haret (CVS sources) or projectpage: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET |
18:17.15 | sirfred | That will meet my needs. |
18:17.21 | mr_nice | mrdata: hi |
18:17.34 | sirfred | ~You are wise |
18:17.35 | ibot | sirfred: what are you talking about? |
18:17.39 | sirfred | nothing... |
18:17.44 | hrw | sirfred: this and card which will have rootfs on it |
18:18.04 | mr_nice | mrdata: I have tryed to find the bug but I didn't found out much |
18:18.22 | mrdata | mr_nice: hi, not so bad |
18:18.23 | sirfred | hrw: nice |
18:18.53 | hrw | sirfred: best way is sd card with two partitions: p1/vfat with kernel and haret, p2/ext2 with rootfs |
18:19.06 | mrdata | mr_nice: the bug would not be trivial, so we need some time for it |
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18:19.28 | hrw | sirfred: so pocketpc will use p1 and allow to run haret (which will read kernel from card) and kernel need to have root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 in cmdline |
18:19.31 | hrw | hi Lorn |
18:19.42 | sirfred | hrw: Seems reasonable |
18:20.11 | hrw | sirfred: the funniest thing is that I never owned pocketpc device, never had such one for longer then 20 minutes in hands and never ever saw haret working ;D |
18:20.11 | sirfred | hrw: I've seen you closed my bug about starling. Have you been able to make it run on a zaurus? |
18:20.15 | pH5 | sirfred: that's the way I always do it. and if there is wm2005 on the hx4700, you don't even have to backup the data. |
18:20.22 | mr_nice | mrdata: here is my latest pastebin http://pastebin.ca/414854. I also have messed up the adress of r3 now. this is a result of adding {} and a printk inside the brackets |
18:20.28 | vivijim | hrw: ok, I can include the angstrom-glibc.inc but I believe that I'm missing something.. I believe that even including I'll get the glibc2.3 instead of 2.5 |
18:20.31 | hrw | sirfred: I built it for neo before but it does not run |
18:20.55 | sirfred | hrw: I'm getting a segfault in play_list_set_sink, but perhaps it's a gstreamer issue. |
18:21.02 | hrw | vivijim: angstrom use glibc 2.5 on arm |
18:21.05 | sirfred | I'm getting very ugly warnings. |
18:21.17 | hrw | sirfred: starling is from gstreamer 0.8 times |
18:21.19 | sirfred | pH5: ok. |
18:21.22 | sirfred | hrw: oh |
18:21.33 | koen | hrw: starling svn should be 0.10 ready |
18:21.38 | koen | neal rewrote it :) |
18:21.46 | hrw | koen: but OE one is not ;D |
18:21.48 | sirfred | koen: I'm using starling_svn.bb I've just created. |
18:21.54 | hrw | someone need to update it then |
18:21.57 | sirfred | koen: And I'm getting the same sigsegv. |
18:22.00 | CIA-11 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r915e7bca... 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): disapproval of revision '3747999334cad4bb22159396976a802d18c50703' |
18:22.06 | sirfred | hrw: I can open a bug with my .bb |
18:22.13 | sirfred | Doing it in a minute |
18:22.22 | hrw | ok, I will add it then tomorrow probably |
18:22.29 | hrw | sirfred: does svn version works? |
18:22.39 | sirfred | hrw: No, same errors as I've said |
18:22.41 | mr_nice | mrdata: I cannot find out hte right definitions for struct resource and struct device which are part of the struct platform_device. I only fund something linke struct device; without any information about the proper types. so I was not able to add printks for that values |
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18:23.00 | sirfred | hrw: But my gstreamer install, well, postinstall is trying to use gconftool-2 for registering something. |
18:23.10 | sirfred | I don't know if its state on my zaurus is good |
18:23.30 | sirfred | hrw: I was wondering if inherit gconf is needed for gstreamer plugins. |
18:23.42 | hrw | sirfred: there is gst-plugin-gconf |
18:24.03 | hrw | I do not know who use it |
18:24.07 | hrw | hi _law_ |
18:24.20 | sirfred | hrw: I'm a totally newbie in gstreamer. |
18:24.32 | mr_nice | mrdata: do you know what programm counter means? I found that as a definition for PC Value |
18:24.37 | hrw | sirfred: I was doing some work on gstremer lately but it was not x11 based |
18:24.38 | _law_ | hi hrw |
18:25.09 | hrw | mr_nice: and in most programming environments PC === programm counter |
18:25.48 | mrdata | mr_nice: struct device is defined in /include/linux/device.h search for "struct device {" |
18:26.53 | sirfred | hrw: It is bug 2063 |
18:27.20 | hrw | !oebud 2063 |
18:27.26 | hrw | !oebug 2063 |
18:27.27 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 2063, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-03-29 11:31 |
18:27.28 | cdbot2 | * * manuel.teira(AT)telefonica.net: New starling svn package |
18:27.29 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2063 |
18:27.34 | mrdata | mr_nice: for sa1100 i must read the manual before i can it say right, but i know that the programm counter |
18:28.36 | mr_nice | mrdata: thx I found the definition |
18:28.37 | mrdata | mr_nice: holds the value of the address of the actual order |
18:29.40 | mr_nice | mrdata: ah, so the adress is wrong? |
18:30.32 | mr_nice | mrdata: I will add more prinks and see what happens then. |
18:33.09 | mrdata | mr_nice: the program counter should be in the range from 0 to 64MB inside the address range of the sa1100 |
18:34.22 | pH5 | gpe-session-scripts RDEPENDS on matchbox-panel (>= 0.9.2-r12), but angstrom-x11-image do_rootfs fails because it doesn't think matchbox-panel 0.9.3-r2 satisfies that dependency :( |
18:35.14 | koen | pH5: You can remove the version numbers |
18:35.28 | koen | as soon as the scsi controller stops being an ass I can commit it |
18:35.37 | koen | Cpu0 : 0.0%us, 0.0%sy, 0.0%ni, 0.0%id,100.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st |
18:35.37 | koen | Cpu1 : 0.0%us, 0.0%sy, 0.0%ni, 0.0%id,100.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st |
18:39.32 | chouimat | hi |
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18:39.55 | mreimer_ | hello all |
18:40.08 | hrw | hi Matt |
18:40.20 | sirfred | mreimer_: Hello |
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18:42.50 | mreimer_ | Would anyone here be interested in a little shell script that makes psplash fill the progress bar on a timer? It writes out how long a boot-up takes (say, 46 seconds) and then on the subsequent boot it fills the progress bar so that it's full by that time |
18:43.20 | mreimer_ | makes it way easier than trying to psplash-write in all the initscripts |
18:45.53 | pH5 | koen: ok, that helped |
18:45.57 | pH5 | hi mreimer_ |
18:47.41 | koen | hey mreimer_ |
18:48.14 | mr_nice | mreimer_: I am no oe dev or something but doing that is not a good idea I think. e.g if the system hangs on dhcp request or if it fscks something the bar gets useless then. |
18:49.02 | CIA-11 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r56b25a11... 10/ (1 packages/gpe-session-scripts/gpe-session-scripts_0.67.bb): gpe-sessionscripts: remove PV in depends |
18:49.07 | mreimer_ | mr_nice: yes, that's the downside of it |
18:50.00 | koen | FWIW, nokia uses that method on their tablets |
18:51.23 | mrdata | mr_nice: like zecke yesterday said, i had begin with a fresh vanilla kernel again |
18:51.41 | mrdata | mr_nice: Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 645f6370, same by me now |
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18:52.32 | mrdata | <mrdata> mr_nice: like zecke yesterday said, i had begin with a fresh vanilla kernel again |
18:52.48 | mrdata | mr_nice: Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 645f6370, same by me now |
18:53.26 | gremlin[it] | hi all, what is the package responsable to setup (or not) a valid root password ??? |
18:53.33 | koen | hrw: your INTERNAL thingy works. Thanks! |
18:53.51 | mr_nice | mrdata: yes, and I am was able to destroy that adress by adding a {... printk} to the if statement |
18:54.03 | vivi|note | PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/${TARGET_PREFIX}libc-for-gcc = "glibc-intermediate" |
18:54.10 | vivi|note | what this virtual means? |
18:54.38 | hrw | cu all |
18:54.44 | koen | vivi|note: it means that there are more providers for it (e.g. uclibc, glibc, newlib, etc) |
18:54.51 | hrw | klibc |
18:56.17 | vivi|note | uhm... because I'm including angstrom-glibc.inc and using this options like angstrom does, but it still insist in using glibc2.3 :( and I don't have more ideas about how to change this... |
18:56.43 | vivi|note | do you have any idea where can I making a mistake? |
18:57.51 | gremlin[it] | what is the package responsable to setup (or not) a valid root password in building stage, not in runtime startup/config of target ? |
18:59.19 | mr_nice | mrdata: It is hard for me to add all the needed prinks there are a lot of things I don't know which %{s,i,d...} I need. But I will try to get a complete printk output of the struct |
19:00.56 | mr_nice | mrdata: :) http://kernelnewbies.org/FAQ/LinuxKernelDebug101 -> dev_info |
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19:02.30 | gremlin[it] | please no one can help me ??? Angstrom don't work on ipaq h3600 ... i cannot build the debug image cause it's too big ... but normal one have some but and inital root password setup con't run ... so i have a system wgere i cannot login !!! |
19:02.49 | gremlin[it] | s/some but/some bug/ |
19:05.34 | mmp | gremlin[it]: I'm just guessing - try running with kernel param init="/bin/busybox sh" |
19:05.37 | mmp | or something like that... |
19:05.40 | mrdata | mr_nice: the struct expanding is like a game, i need realy a posibility to use a debugger |
19:06.59 | gremlin[it] | ok let's try mmp, thanks ... |
19:07.03 | mrdata | mr_nice: then we had a clean view of the result from the code compiling (adresses and so one) |
19:07.35 | gremlin[it] | mmp ... if build in debug more final image already have a empty (valid) root password ... :) |
19:08.10 | mmp | gremlin[it]: but why there would be some password for non-debug image? |
19:08.39 | mr_nice | mrdata: the problem is to find one for arm |
19:09.15 | gremlin[it] | mmp yes ok .. but if i know the package that do i can force this one only to beuild in debug mode ;) |
19:10.25 | mmp | gremlin[it]: hmm, yes, but I'm afraid I can't help you with this much, I don't know angstrom very well.. |
19:11.22 | mr_nice | mrdata: hm kdb seems to be available for arm |
19:11.54 | mr_nice | mrdata: https://gforge.inria.fr/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/vanilla-kernels/linux-2.6.20/Documentation/kdb/kdb_bp.man?rev=1341&root=kerrighed&view=markup |
19:11.59 | mrdata | mr_nice: for the right usage of %{s,i,d ...} -> http://home.fhtw-berlin.de/~junghans/cref/FUNCTIONS/format.html |
19:17.26 | mr_nice | mrdata: my problem is that sometimes there are kernel own type definitions. and I don't know if the types are big enough to keep the data. or if they make sense. |
19:17.28 | mrdata | mr_nice: thx!, struct resource is defined in /include/linux/ioport.h |
19:17.40 | mr_nice | mrdata: thx |
19:18.05 | mr_nice | mrdata: I will read the kdb manual |
19:18.37 | mr_nice | mrdata: found a good start http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-kdbug/ |
19:18.57 | mrdata | mr_nice: any type definitions should be a part of 8 |
19:21.42 | mrdata | mr_nice: and than came the processor part (8; 16; 32 bit) organization, plus c-language how big is a byte, word, int, long ... |
19:22.44 | mrdata | mr_nice: and the operating-system-logic (16; 32 bit) |
19:23.16 | mr_nice | mrdata: thx, I will read that definitions a second |
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19:42.20 | CIA-11 | 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r7c241467... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-sdk.bb): task-sdk: Update various bits to current names. |
19:42.25 | CIA-11 | 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r5a68fd7d... 10/ (1 packages/meta/meta-sdk-sbox.bb): |
19:42.25 | CIA-11 | meta-sdk-sbox: Start of a scratchbox based SDK. |
19:42.25 | CIA-11 | Currently creates a rootstrap which can be used after importing the crosscompiler. |
19:42.25 | CIA-11 | Compiling seems to work but running applications doesn't. |
19:45.31 | gremlin[it] | no way ... no enought space to write /etc/shadow :( .... grrrrrr |
19:45.54 | gremlin[it] | ~ibot last blowing libraries |
19:46.06 | gremlin[it] | ~ibot lart blowing libraries |
19:46.07 | ibot | shoots blowing libraries in the head |
19:46.53 | mmp | gremlin[it]: remove some not-so-neccessary packages... |
19:47.09 | mmp | or libraries:) |
19:48.58 | gremlin[it] | i try ... but i don't know exactly what to delete ... i cut off about 1M of /usr/local/share/X11 ... but still no space :( |
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19:51.01 | psokolovsky_ | pH5: INPUT_MISC ?= m - is this for UINPUT? |
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19:51.48 | pH5 | psokolovsky_: yes |
19:51.54 | psokolovsky_ | ok |
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19:56.16 | CIA-11 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r33ef9583... 10/ (1 packages/meta/meta-sdk-sbox.bb): meta-sdk-sbox: remove hardcodes references, reuse functions instead of copy-pasting them, and we have an SCM, so no need to comment stuff |
19:56.34 | mmp | gremlin[it]: weird.. |
19:56.44 | mmp | 1MB should be enough for such simple operation |
19:58.00 | gremlin[it] | yes .... seem nothing change if i delete things :( |
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19:58.55 | vivi|note | NOTE: preferred version 2.5 of glibc not available NOTE: multiple providers are available (glibc, glibc-intermediate); NOTE: consider defining PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/arm-linux-gnueabi-libc-for-gcc NOTE: package linux-libc-headers-2.6.15.99: started NOTE: package linux-libc-headers-2.6.15.99: completed NOTE: package glibc-2.3.5+cvs20050627: started |
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19:59.26 | vivi|note | koen any idea why the build is using glib2.3 insteadof glib2.5 |
19:59.37 | koen | vivijim: try including angstrom-2007.1.conf |
20:00.04 | zecke | koen: http://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11308 building WebKit is a mess |
20:00.12 | zecke | koen: specially if you don't use xcodebuild :} |
20:00.22 | koen | zecke: duh |
20:00.28 | koen | told you a few weeks ago |
20:01.04 | zecke | koen: even the cmake stuff is orphaned |
20:01.49 | gremlin[it] | ok ... but removing a big library (gtk) ... but i can do nothing without it !!!! |
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20:30.07 | gremlin[it] | ok finallu h3600 barelly run Angstrom |
20:40.32 | likewise | hello all |
20:41.35 | HopsNBarley | hi likewise! |
20:41.51 | likewise | hi HopsNBarley |
20:44.11 | koen | HopsNBarley: I'll be in CA from 15 to 21 april |
20:44.18 | koen | celf confirmed my flight(s) |
20:44.54 | gremlin[it] | koen travel-pingeon :) |
20:47.12 | Crofton|laptop | koen, you fly direct to west coast? |
20:48.51 | koen | Crofton|laptop: no, chicago in between |
20:48.59 | koen | can't really complain, though |
20:49.10 | koen | more time to read books :) |
20:49.26 | Crofton|laptop | I'm no where near chicago :) |
20:51.05 | likewise | What should my bb look like to make it fetch CVS head on every build? |
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20:54.32 | koen | likewise: do_configure_prepend() {cvs up -dP} |
20:54.39 | koen | that's the best I can come up with |
20:55.13 | koen | other ways are fumbling with CVSDATE or setting nostamp on fetch |
20:56.30 | zecke_ | SRCDATE now for cvs? |
20:57.11 | koen | zecke_: that doesn't work as you'd expect (see the openmoko hacks) |
20:59.43 | zecke_ | it works as advertised |
21:00.20 | zecke_ | koen: or to liberally cite Chris: "I concentrated on a couple of usecases, this was not one of them" |
21:00.26 | sirfred | Any reason for gstreamer plugins being configured with --disable-x ? |
21:00.44 | koen | sirfred: no good reason |
21:00.49 | zecke_ | sirfred: they can be used on directFB only |
21:01.41 | sirfred | zecke_: What do you mean? |
21:01.41 | sirfred | zecke_: Is there any reason preventing them to be used on x? |
21:02.08 | zecke_ | sirfred: do you want to compile directFB if you build X? Do you want it the other way around? |
21:02.42 | sirfred | zecke_: No, but you don't need to install the x related plugins in a DirectFB environment, isn't that enough? |
21:02.55 | zecke_ | sirfred: http://www.directfb.org/images/RIP-X.png :) |
21:03.11 | sirfred | zecke_: :) |
21:03.15 | sirfred | zecke_: Who are they? |
21:03.59 | zecke_ | sirfred: Convergence folk (left-to-right) Neo (gimp), ?, Dok, Mitch? (Gtk/Gimp) |
21:04.28 | zecke_ | sirfred: I think tmbinc added gstreamer, he is not using X at all. Forcing him to compile X will ~tripple his build times |
21:04.43 | zecke_ | sirfred: if you want to build X, would you be happy to build QtopiaCore and directFB all the time? |
21:04.47 | sirfred | zecke_: Perhaps we could have different bb files. |
21:05.06 | sirfred | zecke_: No, of course. But what about gst-plugins-good-x and gst-plugins-good-directfb packages? |
21:05.21 | zecke_ | sirfred: packages or different recipes? |
21:05.28 | sirfred | zecke_: Recipes, I mean |
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21:06.10 | zecke_ | sirfred: I think this is one of the fundamental issues we have to solve in OE. (automatic feature configuration based on 'flags') |
21:06.20 | tmbinc_ | *agree* |
21:06.27 | sirfred | zecke_: That should be nice, yes. |
21:06.42 | tmbinc_ | some global customization parameters |
21:06.55 | woglinde | he tmbinc :) |
21:06.58 | zecke_ | tmbinc_: we need to help you merging, if I just would have more *time* :} |
21:07.02 | tmbinc_ | like a global "debug" flag, which allows packages to automatically build non-debug builds (not just stripping) |
21:07.15 | tmbinc_ | zecke_: if i just had more time, i'd be happy to merge :) |
21:07.24 | zecke_ | ;) |
21:08.02 | zecke_ | sirfred: create a recipe that provides the additional X sinks |
21:08.12 | sirfred | So, the feature we need in OE is a time expander. |
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21:09.49 | tmbinc_ | hm, wouldn't fixing gstreamer be better? |
21:09.53 | tmbinc_ | to not rely on X? |
21:10.07 | tmbinc_ | it would then autodetect if X is there or not. I just added --disable-x because it wouldn't compile otherwise |
21:10.08 | sirfred | tmbinc_: THere are things like xv sinks that are X specific |
21:10.18 | tmbinc_ | gstreamer's configure should be smart enough to disable these sinks then |
21:10.44 | tmbinc_ | It might even be already fixed |
21:10.44 | flo_n800 | hi |
21:10.58 | tmbinc_ | you could then work out a mechanism so that X is only build before if you want X |
21:11.00 | sirfred | tmbinc_: It disables them, if it doesn't find the dependencies. |
21:11.10 | zecke_ | tmbinc_: well, generally we want to avoid those coincidences. We want to have a tight control on what features get build |
21:11.18 | sirfred | tmbinc_: If you don't have libxv , then the xv sink is not compiled. |
21:11.25 | tmbinc_ | sirfred: it didn't, back when i tried. otherwise i wouldn't had added the --disable-x |
21:11.37 | tmbinc_ | it was a "get this thing compiling, *now*"-type of "fix" |
21:11.38 | sirfred | tmbinc_: ok |
21:11.58 | sirfred | tmbinc_: I have compiled them without that flag. |
21:12.15 | tmbinc_ | maybe it's already fixed? or was only relevant for one of the plugin packages? |
21:12.16 | sirfred | tmbinc_: But I have libxv and friends in the staging, of course. |
21:12.21 | tmbinc_ | oh ok |
21:12.27 | tmbinc_ | well i didn't |
21:12.41 | sirfred | tmbinc_: I don't know what would happen if I didn't have that staged |
21:13.51 | tmbinc_ | zecke_: true. but --disable-x is superflous, isn't it? X is either there or not. If it's not there and should be, that's a bug in OE. If it's not there and gstreamer fails to detect that, it's a bug in gstreamer. We should not override the whole configure mechanism just because something *might be* buggy - or do i miss the point? |
21:14.18 | zecke_ | tmbinc_: well. e.g. angstrom could support directFB and X based UIs |
21:14.39 | zecke_ | tmbinc_: and then gstreamer support would depend on the order of the build |
21:14.42 | tmbinc_ | maybe a post check if the wanted modules were built? but that's part of the image building process, which should depend on the required modules. If something is incorrectly not build, then it will be detected there. |
21:14.58 | tmbinc_ | zecke_: hm right. then gstreamer should depend on something like "x_or_not_x" |
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21:16.17 | zecke_ | tmbinc_: E.g. all possible dependencies should build a graph. Each node is connected with a maybe-edge. Externally these maybe-edges can be defined and then we replace these maybe-edges with true edges/DEPENDS and if nothing more is to do, we are done and can save the configuration :} |
21:16.31 | zecke_ | tmbinc_: as to disable debug completely, there is a global CPPFLAG for that |
21:17.11 | tmbinc_ | zecke_: i'm not talking about -g or something. gstreamer for example has a --disable-debug (which is non-default) |
21:21.16 | NAiL | can anyone help me a bit with bootstrap-image? I'm getting the output here: http://pastebin.ca/415812 |
21:23.02 | woglinde | nail hm seems some quoting is wrong |
21:23.20 | NAiL | yeah, but where does it come from? |
21:23.43 | woglinde | bad .bb file or something in your local.conf? |
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21:25.53 | NAiL | why does it bomb out in bootstrap-image? |
21:26.02 | NAiL | task-base builds just fine |
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21:41.35 | likewise | koen: do_configure_prepend() {cvs up -dP} would not work if stamps are still made |
21:53.17 | CoreDump|home | hi |
21:57.56 | sirfred | Good night |
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22:29.58 | zecke_ | koen|away: http://www.satine.org/archives/2007/03/05/the-skia-source-code-dilemma/ |
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