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00:50.18Crofton|laptopSonicvanaJr, open source is only as good as its users ...
00:50.36SonicvanaJrVery true
00:50.42Crofton|laptop:)
00:51.50SonicvanaJrStill it'd be nice to have a little bit of info, there's a ton of errors/warnings when building
00:52.05Crofton|laptopsounds like you are a pioneer
00:53.38SonicvanaJrOr attempting to tread in some footsteps that have been very well covered
00:53.52Crofton|laptopI suspect they are not well covered
00:53.58Crofton|laptopsnce the web page is empty
00:55.10Crofton|laptopwhat errors and warnings btw?
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02:14.44jselectkoen: do you know the format required for the psplash progress bar image? Is it just a box?
02:27.23jselectkoen: disregard that please. I've modified psplash to just draw the border itself :)
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03:08.47jacquesibot, seen RP
03:09.25ibotrp is currently on #gpe (6h 34m 28s) #oe (6h 34m 28s) #openmoko (6h 34m 28s) #handhelds.org (6h 34m 28s). Has said a total of 2 messages. Is idling for 5h 33m 30s, last said: 'hi CoreDump|home '.
03:09.25jacquesibot, status
03:09.34ibotSince Tue Mar 27 02:14:46 2007, there have been 106 modifications, 520 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 456 commands.  I have been awake for 2d 54m 39s this session, and currently reference 112741 factoids.  I'm using about 19232 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 8696.81/664.01 child 0.04/0.01
03:10.25jacquesibot, reluctant botsnack
03:10.25ibotthanks, jacques
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03:26.07Zero_Chaoswhat reciepe is gdk-pixbuf-csource?
03:26.25Zero_Chaosgqview needs that as a dep
03:29.58jselectZero_Chaos: it's part of .. hang on
03:30.06jselectZero_Chaos: I just used it myself for psplash
03:30.54jselectZero_Chaos: it should be built as part of gtk+-dev
03:31.02jselectwhich is a dynamic package that is part of gtk+
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03:47.41Zero_Chaosjselect: thanks, the deps for gqview should be updated, because it fails when it cannot find gdk-pixbuf-csource
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03:56.36Zero_Chaosjselect: are you sure? it still barfs
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04:08.56jselectjselect: Try it on your system. If you build gtk+-dev dynamic package and install it
04:09.13jselectit has in it's install dir the gdk-pixbuf-csource binary
04:09.27jselectbut it might be a wrapper for another binary
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06:28.30schurig$ arm-linux-gcc -v
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06:28.40schurig--enable-multilib
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06:28.50schurig...
06:29.01schuriggcc version 4.1.1
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06:29.25schurigSomeone could not decide if multilib is useful or not :-)     Hmm, what *IS* multilib?
06:32.31koeniirc it's for mixed 64bit/32bit environments
06:32.35koengood morning all
06:35.05schurigkoen: good morning 2u2
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07:07.40jselectmorning all
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07:36.46mr_nicehi all
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08:19.06zeckehehe, that sounds like a german tool
08:22.49koen|lablooks like a win 3.11 tool
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08:23.14koen|labno auto-refresh, no scrollbars, requires 3 mouse buttons, etc
08:23.55koen|laband the 'graphical representation' of an inverter doesn't show the 'blocks', but "include ../foo/bar/mod.md"
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08:31.55XorAmorning
08:33.22koen|labhey XorE
08:37.05XorAkoen|lab: yo yo yo, 2 days to release :-D
08:37.13koen|lab;)
08:37.22koen|lab6 days before the project deadline
08:37.36XorAgah, Angstrom is more important :-)
08:37.40koen|laband our sigmadelta ADC only has 2 NMOS' so far
08:38.09koen|labXorA: does wolfson have a design for a lownoise 5MHz SD-ADC?
08:38.33XorAkoen|lab: no idea, I havent been here long enough to absorb product info
08:38.50XorAwhats the SD part stand for?
08:39.01koen|labsigma-delta
08:39.02XorAits been 12 years since I last did analogues
08:40.03koen|labthe reverse of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta-sigma_modulation
08:40.44koen|labI love signal processing, but the crap tools created when neanderthals were around make it less fun
08:42.14koen|labXorA: but before a release we need hrw|gone's internal lib code in OE psokolovsky_'s keylaunch changes and a working gpe-conf
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08:42.45koen|laband once people verify an image boots on their device we can move those images to the RC directory
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08:42.58XorAkoen|lab: gpe-conf that doesnt turn off screen is easy
08:43.17pH5should we add the patch to OE or will florian make a release?
08:43.24pH5what are the keylaunch changes?
08:43.32koen|labpatch
08:43.36XorAkoen|lab: Signal processing was the main part of my degree, but since I havent used it since passing, I lose all knowledge
08:43.43koen|laband it seems keylaunch isn't in angstrom-x11-image
08:43.44tkpis there any way to tell OE to look to an other location for extra shared libs? I am using an external toolchain and want OE to be able to pull in it's shared libs as needed?
08:44.02XorAtkp: look at the sharp-compat distro
08:44.12tkpXorA: thanks
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08:45.27zecketkp: the information in the manual is not helping, then please help to improve it
08:46.08tkpzecke: the manual suggests creating a package which installs them manually
08:46.29koen|labXorA: the regular angstrom feeds aren't working?
08:46.39tkpI did that, but something is wrong with is, as the -dbg package isn't working correctly
08:46.44koen|labpH5, psokolovsky: what is the best kernel version to run on hx4700?
08:46.54XorAkoen|lab: they do, but I also like to keep my own feed for when things like mb-panel-2 fsckup my machine
08:46.55tkpie. gdb can't find the files in .debug for all the libs I installed manually
08:47.06koen|labXorA: aha
08:47.25tkpXorA: what is it about that distribution that gets OE to pull in the libs from the prebuilt toolchain tho?
08:47.30zecketkp: make sure to give back and update the documentation!
08:47.36XorAkoen|lab: and one day I shall sell the how to generate one feed from many script :-)
08:47.38psokolovskykoen|lab: latest, 2.6.20-hh5 ;-) (need to add it though)
08:47.49pH5psokolovsky: did you test with OE configuration?
08:47.55zecketkp: what do you mean by "pull in" use it to link against it? or to package it properly?
08:47.57XorAtkp: no idea, but it uses the toolchain from sharp to do the build
08:48.12tkpzecke: to package it properly
08:48.18pH5we have to do that and/or update defconfig before it can be used as default kernel.
08:48.27tkpie. to ensure the shared libs from the toolchain get installed on the target
08:48.39psokolovskyah, yep ;-)
08:49.08pH5I didn't test wifi/bt with 2.6.20-x yet. I guess it'll work, but I'm not sure.
08:49.13psokolovskykoen|lab: in this regard, there's a proposal to move to defconfigman-maintained defconfig for hx4700, like for h3900 & h4000
08:49.30pH5psokolovsky: did you have a look at my latest mail about defconfig?
08:49.45pH5before proposing a move we should fix it to support everything (wifi, cpufreq, etc)
08:50.02zecketkp: well you will need to create bb files that puts the libraries into packages
08:50.08psokolovskypH5: yep, now that adc class is in, highest topic. will reply today (and add magician of course)
08:50.16tkpzecke: right - I created aa package like this (http://rafb.net/p/gmLfUj86.html), but it's not working properly...
08:50.17pH5psokolovsky: great
08:50.17zecketkp: and oe_libinstall them to make sure RDEPENDS are found properly
08:50.43tkpzecke: is there an example package that does this somewhere?
08:51.04zecketkp: not that I know
08:51.35zecketkp: well... you install to /lib which is not part of FILES by default
08:51.36tkpI got it (semi) working by making it more like this: http://rafb.net/p/G1YdZm27.html ... but it's the -dbg package that isn't working correctly
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08:52.50zecketkp: see, your live would be more easy if you would read messages printed by OE
08:53.12zecketkp: it will tell you which files were not packaged, etc. and concrete errors would be appreciated as well
08:53.27psokolovsky_pH5: fyi, I'm adding -hh4/hh5 now
08:53.29zecketkp: otherwise we need to classify these things as human error which has a lot of different solutions
08:54.12pH5psokolovsky: ok. I'll try/test -hh5 with OE defconfig for magician/hx4700 later today
08:54.25pH5psokolovsky: do you have a patch for the keylaunch issue already?
08:54.41koen|labzecke: OE doesn't print messages over here
08:54.48koen|labzecke: with bitbake trunk
08:55.15zeckekoen|lab: don't use unstable versions. We should increase the sleep...
08:55.26pH5sirfred's imageon patches break compilation of Xsdl :(
08:55.28psokolovsky_pH5: nope, but its confirmed to be the case, and OKed by koen to commit.
08:55.34zecketkp: So you have created packages (ipk,tar) and they contain files?
08:56.06zecketkp: why do you think you will need -dbg packages? What is the error you get?
08:56.06tkpzecke: yes
08:56.40tkpzecke: I'm trying to debug something on the target, and not having these symbols in there isn't helping
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08:57.39zecketkp: again. What is the error? Do you have debugging symbols in your prebuilt stuff?
08:57.52zecketkp: what packages are created, what do they contain?...
08:58.02tkpzecke: example: http://rafb.net/p/AqAcTK50.html
08:58.34zeckedon't use helix, use GStreamer it comes will the full sourcecode :)
08:58.43tkpzecke: not an option!
08:58.49zecketkp: but again, either listen or don't!
08:58.57tkpI have the full source code for Helix
08:59.13zecketkp: Does your prebuilt toolchain contain debugging information?
08:59.15tkpzecke: it's not  question of not listening... I need to use Helix
08:59.24tkpzecke: yes
08:59.51XorAtkp: at a guess item=-1077847592 is bad :-)
09:00.27zecketkp: well, then what packages are getting created? (e.g. pastebin the OE output)
09:01.04zecketkp: what is your _concrete_ issue with your -dbg packages? Is it not getting created? Is it missing a file?
09:01.22tkphttp://rafb.net/p/JNnGJo66.html
09:01.50koen|labheh
09:01.54tkpthat clearly doesn't work.... I'll paste the output from my fudged version, which semi works
09:01.55koen|lab"Installing libesd0 blanks the screen on bootup"
09:02.26zecketkp: You don't listen. If you fail you present a problem how do you expect to get any help?
09:02.30zecke<PROTECTED>
09:02.37XorAkoen|lab: s/libesd0/gpe-conf/
09:02.47tkpzecke: what?
09:02.56tkpwhat am I not listening to?
09:03.50zecketkp: Q:"What packages are getting created and what do they contain?" ll in a random dir is not an answer!
09:04.36zecketkp: specially if I ask for output of OE during the creation of the packages. So you don't want to listen, you fail to read, you fail to give an answer, you failed the turing test.
09:04.43tkpstc-shlibs & stc-shlibs-dbg
09:04.46tkphttp://rafb.net/p/wm7Ivl35.html
09:05.47zecketkp: poor boy, you really think you answered that question?
09:05.59zecketkp: ll in a random dir is not output of OE
09:06.12tkpzecke: hold on please
09:06.18zecketkp: and what is the packaged content?
09:06.32RPmorning all
09:06.48robtaylormorn RP
09:06.52XorAyo RP
09:06.58CIA-1103pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r143c8e4d... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
09:06.58CIA-11linux-handhelds-2.6: Drop 2.6.20-hh2. Add 2.6.20-hh4.
09:06.58CIA-11* Changes since 2.6.20-hh3:
09:06.58CIA-111. htcathena port added.
09:06.58CIA-112. Generic Device GPIO API (aka gpiodev) committed, based on virtual device
09:06.58CIA-11methods pattern.
09:07.00CIA-113. rs232_serial - generic driver for GPIO-controlled RS232 transceiver on
09:07.04CIA-1103pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r7ebe9518... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
09:07.06CIA-11linux-handhelds-2.6: Drop 2.6.20-hh1. Add 2.6.20-hh5.
09:07.08CIA-11* Changes since 2.6.20-hh4:
09:07.10CIA-111. ts-adc-debounce: Use spec-originated formula for pressure calculation,
09:07.12CIA-11still needs tweaking for real world; implement pressure cut off properly,
09:07.14CIA-11and handle jitter in more sustainable manner: now samples with too much
09:07.16CIA-11jitter are ignored, not cause TS sampling to abort. Still needs further
09:07.18CIA-1103pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r546defc1... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-handhelds-2.6_cvs.bb): linux-handhelds-2.6 cvs: HEAD is 2.6.20-hh5 now.
09:07.35tkpzecke: the packaged content of each of the two packages that got created (stc-shlibs & stc-shlibs-dbg) is as per my last paste
09:08.22djay-ilis it possible to compile in locale binaries with qemu-native on x86_64?
09:08.44CIA-1103pH5 07org.oe.dev * r23f2457b... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-xserver/xserver-kdrive-common.inc): xserver-kdrive-common.inc: shuffle w100/imageon support a bit
09:08.53CIA-1103pH5 07org.oe.dev * r589b03f4... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
09:08.53CIA-11xserver-kdrive-common: the tslib is patch not needed anymore in 1.2,
09:08.53CIA-11the other two have to be modified
09:09.00CIA-1103pH5 07org.oe.dev * r0e52f21a... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-xserver/xserver-kdrive_X11R7.1-1.1.0.bb): xserver-kdrive: change X11R7.1-1.1.0 to use xserver-kdrive-common.inc
09:09.09CIA-1103pH5 07org.oe.dev * r533dbe85... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-xserver/xserver-kdrive_1.2.0.bb): xserver-kdrive: change 1.2.0 to use xserver-kdrive-common.inc
09:09.17CIA-1103pH5 07org.oe.dev * re0bcd233... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): xserver-kdrive: change git version to use xserver-kdrive-common.inc
09:09.23CIA-1103pH5 07org.oe.dev * r53fc298d... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): xserver-kdrive: remove xcalibrate-1.2 patch, xcalibrate is upstream after all
09:09.27CIA-1103pH5 07org.oe.dev * r1e8faa47... 10/ (1 packages/angstrom/task-angstrom-x11.bb): task-angstrom-x11: add keylaunch
09:10.09tkpzecke: here is the output from OE: http://rafb.net/p/s7bxhc80.html
09:11.12tkpI had to modify the bb to only try and install 3 libs - to keep the output small so it would fit in the paste bin (http://rafb.net/p/uB8GQZ12.html)
09:11.48zecketkp: sorry, the time I'm willing to sacrifce is over. next time try to present your problem in a clean way so that people can actually help you
09:12.11zecketkp: don't run with -DDD and it helps to paste the output of the tasks in question...
09:12.28tkpzecke: that is just one -D
09:13.18tkpand it creates the following files in the two packages that get created: http://rafb.net/p/pqsZlZ94.html
09:13.26zecketkp: boy, you seem to expect something from -dbg. So where is reality not matching your expectations and why do you think it is a packaging issue?
09:14.53tkpzecke: when I run things through gdb, it finds the debug files from the .debug directories for all libs, except those installed by my shlibs-dbg package
09:15.24tkpzecke: I'm sorry I presented this problem in a bit of a muddled fashion
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09:20.26zecketkp: but the files are getting installed? So it is unlikely to be a packaging bug
09:20.42zecketkp: so use objdump and findout where .debug is getting searched
09:25.32pH5what is up with monotone.openembedded.org? I want to push sirfred's gpe-conf fix.
09:26.27koen|labpH5: try pushing to ewi or wolfson
09:27.18pH5koen|lab: Seems like it's up again. I'll remember that for the future.
09:27.58CIA-1103pH5 07org.oe.dev * r7fa457f0... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): gpe-conf: fix for http://bugs.linuxtogo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42 by Manuel Teira
09:28.04koen|labzecke: did you see deepfish already?
09:28.33zeckenope
09:28.59zeckekoen|lab: a browser?
09:31.23koen|labzecke: yes
09:31.27koen|labhey mickeyl
09:31.31mickeylcheers
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09:34.41do13_morning all
09:35.43koen|labhey do13_
09:36.03do13_hi koen|lab
09:40.03hrwre
09:41.20koen|labaaaargh
09:41.40koen|labselecting text and copying to the clipboard crashes the t-spice app
09:43.12RPhi mickeyl , do13_, hrw
09:43.37do13_hey Richard, Marcin, mickeyl
10:00.56koen|labpH5: the imageon patch changes the way kdrive handles memory, so that might be breaking Xsdl
10:02.28pH5koen|lab: yes. I'll remove imageon from the 1.2 build for now and let sirfred handle that.
10:03.07hrwmaybe create xserver-kdrive-imageon recipe?
10:03.46mr_nicezecke: how can I printk mesg? definition is here http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au/lxr/source/include/linux/pm.h#L143.  my pasebin output is here http://pastebin.ca/414821 generated with this code changes(line566) http://pastebin.ca/414824
10:03.49pH5hrw: I'd prefer if sirfred could update his patch not to break Xsdl and submit it upstream eventually.
10:04.05koen|lablike http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/packages/xorg-xserver/xserver-kdrive-imageon_X11R7.1-1.1.0.bb ?
10:04.14hrwkoen|lab: ;D
10:05.04koen|labhrm
10:05.15koen|labCELF is routing me through chicago
10:05.50koen|labso instead of taking 9 hours it will take 16 hours...
10:10.38zeckemr_nice: print msg.event as %d?
10:11.06koen|labdjay-il: from gladwell?
10:11.32mr_nicezecke: thx I will try that
10:12.45koen|lab"If the VBS (bulk-source-voltage) of the NMOS transistor is not zero then this transistor is
10:12.45koen|lab(probably) placed upside-down in your schematic (source at the top and drain at the bottom). This
10:12.45koen|labhas no effect on the operation of the transistor (it is a symmetrical device), but the results of the OP
10:12.46koen|labanalysis are wrong. To correct this, select the NMOS transistor in the schematic of your inverter and
10:12.46koen|labpush the Flip vert. button"
10:12.51koen|labwho designs crap like this?
10:14.35CIA-1103pH5 07org.oe.dev * r8e23de0b... 10/ (12 files in 4 dirs): xserver-kdrive: clean up different patch versions, drop imageon from 1.2 for now
10:20.47CIA-1103pH5 07org.oe.dev * rb55671f4... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): xserver-kdrive: fix patch directory name for 1.2
10:23.14hrw"console=ttyS0,115200 console=tty1" in CMDLINE will put kernel output on both or only first one?
10:23.38mickey|hriboth
10:25.18djay-ilkoen|lab: yes :-)
10:28.05hrwthx
10:30.07koen|labdjay-il: thanks, I'll add it to the list
10:30.26hrwmickey|hri: can python have oneline if?
10:30.46hrw"if something then do this  else do that" way
10:30.56djay-ilkoen: sure
10:31.45djay-ilbtw, I'm having failed fetch, how do I test the links?
10:36.14djay-ilkoen: I might be wrong, but pcre-4.4.bb cannot be built, and libpcre-4.4 as well, as they don't exist on URI anymore
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10:37.09djay-ilsorry, libpcre-4.4.bb
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10:53.14XorAdoes oe_libinstall only work on libtooled libs?
11:09.12hrwhttp://pastebin.ca/414870 - for review
11:13.12djay-ilhow do I add my own package?
11:13.17djay-ilinto dev?
11:17.45hrwsubmit to bugtracker
11:18.03djay-ilbut I should create it first, right?
11:18.25djay-ilis it possible to have multiple package versions? If so, which one got chosen for build?
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11:20.11floriangi all
11:20.14florianeh hi
11:24.32schurigkoen: the gcc-cross 4.1.2 made modprobe (from modutils) segfault, but I did not dig further. It works with gcc-cross-4.1.1
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11:37.59CIA-1103pH5 07org.oe.dev * r0530cbc2... 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): xserver-kdrive-1.2: fix enable-tslib.patch
11:38.17ozgurcocukhi
11:38.46ozgurcocukexit
11:40.13koen|lunchpH5: is it wise to try kdrive 1.2 now?
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11:40.47slapin_nbhi, all!
11:40.54slapin_nb!oebug 2060
11:40.56cdbot2* * Bug 2060, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-03-29 04:46
11:40.57cdbot2* * slapinid(AT)gmail.com: Angstrom build failure (using 4.1.2 toolchain)
11:40.57pH5koen|lunch: yes. Xfbdev works on the magician
11:40.57cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2060
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11:47.59koen|lunchpH5: libxcalibrate doesn't have a release yet?
11:50.27slapin_nbis OE.dev supposed to build using 4.1.2 gcc-cross, or not?
11:50.38slapin_nbpsokolovsky_,
11:51.20pH5koen|lunch: I don't know of any.
11:53.01koen|labok
11:54.40slapin_nbbug 2060 seems to be libtool problem, am I right?
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11:55.21koen|labslapin_nb: looks that way
11:55.27koen|labslapin_nb: try rebuilding libtool cross
11:56.09pH5koen|lab: I'm attaching some of our configuration patches to the freedesktop.org bugzilla.
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11:56.20koen|labpH5: thanks
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11:56.44koen|labalthough I suspect kdrive bugzilla is just a fancy /dev/null
11:58.35CIA-1103xora 07org.oe.dev * r30dd54ac... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs):
11:58.35CIA-11packages/apt/apt_0.6.46.2.bb
11:58.35CIA-11packages/apt/apt.inc
11:58.35CIA-11packages/apt/apt-package.inc : build and package shared libs at all times.
11:58.50pH5koen|lab: yeah, then it's just for my own conscience ;)
11:59.46slapin_nbkoen, it is build from scratch. So I doubt that will help... I'm trying it though. Strange it breaks that late though...
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12:06.48CIA-1103pH5 07org.oe.dev * r8bddcec8... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-xserver/xserver-kdrive/devfs.patch): xserver-kdrive: drop devfs.patch, nobody uses it anymore.
12:06.51CIA-1103pH5 07org.oe.dev * r8c94a3c2... 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): xserver-kdrive-1.2: simplify enable-tslib.patch
12:07.15koen|labaargh
12:07.17koen|labXorA, pH5: ipkg-make-index doesn't know about epochs....
12:07.24XorAkoen|lab: heh heh
12:07.33XorAkoen|lab: btw mtn pull and build apt
12:08.26slapin_nbanybody remembers where to get fosdem materials?
12:08.34koen|labslapin_nb: fosdem.org
12:08.44koen|labor <year>.fosdem.org
12:09.03chouimatmorning
12:10.28koen|labviviji1, vivijim: apt builds now
12:11.36XorAkoen|lab: so that proves the debian EABI effort is stalled :-)
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12:16.28koen|labhow does ipkg-make-index decide to move packages to the morgue?
12:16.46koen|lab<PROTECTED>
12:16.46koen|lab<PROTECTED>
12:17.03koen|labthat seems to the case it's looking at, but I have no idea what it does
12:17.14koen|lab(and why it doesn't handle epochs)
12:17.24XorAkoen|lab: all I know is +cvs is guaranteed to end up morgued
12:19.32viviji1hi koen, I've noticed, thanks! :)
12:19.38hrwflorian: you built sdk with oe?
12:19.39florianconfigure tries to run a test that is cached in the site files already...
12:19.47florianhrw: i try
12:19.52hrwflorian: me too
12:20.10koen|labyou have two weeks left ;)
12:20.19florianhrw: it looks like all the stuff is in bad condition...
12:21.10florianhrw: meta-sdk needs to be updated, it builds blsolete packages... not speaking about the compilers.
12:21.14hrwkoen|lab: on elc you will present working recipes?
12:21.21pH5koen|lab: there is epoch support in ipkg.py, perhaps it doesn't work.
12:21.27hrwflorian: I first want to build gcc-cross-sdk working
12:21.45viviji1koen we decided to use oe to build mamona... First of all we are trying to code a stable distro conf files and then we will ask for repository write permission and start to really contribute to oe...
12:21.56koen|labviviji1: cool!
12:22.03pH5koen|lab: the important part in -make-index is that packages.add_package(pkg) either adds the package (if it is newer) and returns 0, or doesn't add it at all and returns 1.
12:22.18koen|labah
12:22.19koen|labhttp://rafb.net/p/jPbfQw83.html
12:22.34koen|labI can't make heads or tails of that snippet
12:22.41XorAits all python to me
12:23.18florianhrw: i found out that it is quite likely that one of the patches breaks it - without all the patches it builds (but of course it is not what you want).
12:23.31koen|labhttp://rafb.net/p/cX8T7R74.html <- add_package function
12:24.22florianhrw: I try to define a useful toolchain to become imported into Scratchbox - that's more idiot-proof ;)
12:24.23koen|labhttp://rafb.net/p/Kdw1qW81.html <- compare version function
12:26.18floriannow that &%§$ startup-notification breaks... lf_cv_sane_realloc is in the site files but it still tries to run the test
12:26.36koen|labhttp://rafb.net/p/nv3dBS73.html <- parse_version seems to handle epochs
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12:26.58pH5koen|lab: I'd try put a debug print in compare_version. "%s vs %s, %s wins".
12:27.17pH5s/put/to put/
12:27.31psokolovsky_pH5: fyi, I have fix for i-m-i braindeadness regarding version compare
12:36.42koen|labpH5, psokolovsky_, XorA: http://rafb.net/p/GNVmXE66.html always falls through to "we don't need no stinking epochs"
12:38.07pH5koen|lab: so the version parsing is broken. is .epoch always 0?
12:38.18psokolovsky_koen|lab: i.e. you suspect that it mis-parses epoch'ed version string? because "math" is right apparently ;-)
12:40.01psokolovsky_!oebug 2061
12:40.02cdbot2* * Bug 2061, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-03-29 05:42
12:40.03cdbot2* * pmiscml(AT)gmail.com: Fix broken version comparison in ipkg-make-index
12:40.04cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2061
12:40.42psokolovsky_koen|lab, pH5, RP: Can you gentlemen review ^ and tell me if it's ok as is, or would need RFC on the list?
12:41.13koen|labhmmm
12:41.14koen|labprint "We don't need no stinking epochs. self: %s, ref: %s " %  self.epoch, ref.epoch
12:41.20koen|labthat isn't valid python apparently
12:41.40psokolovsky_koen: use braces after %
12:41.47psokolovsky_( ... )
12:42.26koen|labpsokolovsky_: there's debug left in your patch
12:43.01psokolovsky_koen|lab: yeah, so people can try that it is (now) works as expected. can be removed for commit, of course
12:43.08slapin_nbpsokolovsky_, koen|lab btw, I always wanted to ask for ref what an epoch is regarding to versions? is it debian-specific thing?
12:43.30psokolovsky_slapin_nb: kind of super-version
12:43.45psokolovsky_also, an integer only
12:44.35koen|labhttp://rafb.net/p/USDVZ641.html <- epochs are always zero
12:45.37koen|labheh
12:45.49koen|labackage: xserver-kdrive
12:45.49koen|labVersion: 1.2.0-r2
12:46.02koen|labIOW, OE doesn't store the epoch in the resulting package
12:46.51psokolovsky_lol
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12:47.37koen|labfields.append(["Version: %s-%s\n", ['PV', 'PR']])
12:47.37pH5koen: ouch.
12:47.38koen|labI guess that needs some form of if(PE>0){'PE'}
12:47.38pH5so I didn't commit my OE changes, RP only updated bitbake.
12:47.38pH5let me see...
12:47.38slapin_nbpsokolovsky_, so it overrides normal version? like most significent part of it?
12:48.51psokolovsky_slapin_nb: consider it is extra component preprended on the left of normal version. but it's purpose is to allow big changes of versioning schemes (like we have now)
12:52.14CIA-1103pH5 07org.oe.dev * r4887947d... 10/ (1 classes/package_ipk.bbclass): package_ipk.bbclass: add epoch support
12:52.18CIA-1103pH5 07org.oe.dev * r7ac1e35a... 10/ (1 conf/bitbake.conf): bitbake.conf: add epoch support
12:52.23pH5koen: sorry about that
12:52.46slapin_nbpsokolovsky_, ah, I see, thanks!
12:53.01zecke_nice
12:54.04djay-ildo you
12:54.07djay-iloops
12:54.30djay-ilI have a problem fetching from anoncvs.gnome.org...anyone can help?
12:54.42zecke_djay-il: GNOME switched to svn
12:54.57djay-ilyea, and how would I solve it?
12:55.01zecke_djay-il: update OE and make check if this issue was already fixed
12:55.11zecke_djay-il: if not fix the SRC_URI pointing to anoncvs
12:55.23zecke_djay-il: and don't forget to send a patch/file a bugreport
12:55.26djay-ilOE is superuperupdated
12:56.10djay-ilhm, ok
12:57.03djay-ilbug 1921
12:57.11djay-ilzecke_: thanks
12:58.00pH5is it right that package_deb.bbclass sets Architecture to TARGET_ARCH and not PACKAGE_ARCH?
12:59.08CIA-1103pH5 07org.oe.dev * r16aa4528... 10/ (1 classes/package_deb.bbclass): package_deb.bbclass: add epoch support
13:02.55CIA-1103pH5 07org.oe.dev * rc3806da7... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-lib/libx11_1.1.1.bb): libx11-1.1.1: makekeys.diff is applied upstream
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13:08.05koen|labpH5: could you send a mail to the list saying we now have proper epoch support?
13:09.52hrwpH5: xorg-font need mkfontdir mkfontscale in rdepends
13:10.47pH5hrw: can you fix it?
13:11.19slapin_nbanybody could explain to me how could I get list of .bbs executed for some particular target?
13:11.25hrwI have partial fix
13:11.29koen|labslapin_nb: bitbake -nv?
13:12.09hrw-v is not needed. -n is enough
13:14.41CIA-1103hrw 07org.oe.dev * r0d2e69a0... 10/ (1 classes/package.bbclass):
13:14.41CIA-11package.bbclass: added support for private libraries (used only in package)
13:14.41CIA-11- if package contain libraries which are not used outside then add PRIVATE_LIBS
13:14.41CIA-11<PROTECTED>
13:14.46CIA-1103hrw 07org.oe.dev * rd480f9ca... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs):
13:14.46CIA-11dates/openmoko-dates: mark libgtkdatesview.so as PRIVATE, make them conflict
13:14.46CIA-11- both packages provide libgtkdatesview.so.0 which is not used outside of dates
13:14.48CIA-11- both packages provide binaries of same names
13:14.52CIA-1103hrw 07org.oe.dev * rfa0b91e7... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/preferred-xorg-versions-X11R7.1.inc): X11R7.1: prefer libxfont-native 1.2.0 as we use freetype 2.3.x
13:14.56CIA-1103hrw 07org.oe.dev * r40299631... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): acpid: use update-rc.d class
13:15.01CIA-1103hrw 07org.oe.dev * r06419316... 10/ (1 packages/aumix/aumix_2.8.bb): aumix: added ncurses to dependencies
13:15.09CIA-1103hrw 07org.oe.dev * r410b421e... 10/ (1 packages/efl/edje-native_0.5.0.037.bb): edje-native: fix staging
13:15.17CIA-1103hrw 07org.oe.dev * r626f2c6d... 10/ (1 packages/gpe-mini-browser/gpe-mini-browser_svn.bb): gpe-mini-browser: do not comment code but remove it. we have SCM
13:15.25CIA-1103hrw 07org.oe.dev * rddfdd404... 10/ (1 packages/gstreamer/gst-plugins-good_0.10.5.bb): gst-plugins-good: depend on gst-plugins-base (from Poky)
13:15.29slapin_nbI just found that running with -b doesn't runs out of memory on my VPS
13:15.31CIA-1103hrw 07org.oe.dev * r3d41fdda... 10/ (6 files in 2 dirs): hostap-daemon: do not depend on hostap-modules as they are 2.4 only now
13:15.37CIA-1103Marek 07org.oe.dev * r9cb8a3c2... 10/ (1 packages/picocom/picocom_1.4.bb): picocom: fix building - close #1972
13:15.43slapin_nbwhile just bitbake target does.
13:15.43pH5hrw: what depends on libxfont-native?
13:15.44CIA-1103hrw 07org.oe.dev * r791cff22... 10/ (1 packages/starling/starling_0.1.bb): starling: fixed dependencies - close #2055
13:15.48hrwr0d2e69a0... changeset will be reverted
13:15.50CIA-1103hrw 07org.oe.dev * r33a1439e... 10/ (1 packages/uucp/uucp_1.07.bb): uucp: package /usr/spool/uucp/ (empty) for cu
13:15.53hrwpH5: mkfontdir-native
13:16.14hrwpH5: some stuff which is needed by font-misc-misc
13:16.17pH5ah. so I should provide libfont-native for 1.2.7, too.
13:16.25hrwthx
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13:18.26pH5hrw: mkfontdir-native needs libxfont-native added to its DEPENDS, then.
13:18.57hrwmaybe
13:19.10hrw~lart python for lack of string.isEmpty()
13:19.11ibotslaps python upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh for lack of string.isEmpty()
13:20.01florianString objects... tsts
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13:35.14mwesterstrings as objects - such a waste of resources!  hrw: use perl instead! ;)
13:35.33koen|labpH5: MACHINE_FEATURES += usbhost?
13:35.44pH5oh.
13:35.50pH5can I commit http://en.pastebin.ca/415004?
13:36.19koen|labpH5: we have an scm, so no need to comment :)
13:36.19pH5what about the phone MACHINE_FEATURE - is there a way to pull gsmd into an angstrom-x11-image already?
13:36.38koen|labpH5: add it to taskbase or task-angstrom?
13:36.46pH5eh :)
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13:37.24pH5we can assume that those who build their own image have a current u-boot loaded, right?
13:37.49koen|labyes
13:38.04koen|labif you want to flash an image you should be smart enough to look up how to flash it
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13:44.25CIA-11magician.conf: add usbhost MACHINE_FEATURE, drop kernel modules that are
13:44.25CIA-11taken care of by task-base
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13:57.43vlohello everyone
13:58.14pH5hi vlo
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14:00.01vloI have cross-built a C++ program I have written for our robot, and when I run it on the OE system, I get this lib information version "warning": http://pastebin.ca/415028
14:00.14vlosomeone knows how to fix it ?
14:01.06zeckeI have bever seen this :)
14:02.28vlothe waiting for connection is ok, it's in my program, written by me ;) (just in case)
14:03.10zeckevlo: I would say, ignore it :)
14:03.25zeckevlo: we might have just stripped this information from the binary
14:03.54schurighrw: wow, you're still using UUCP?  (I remember using it in ancient times between Linux 2.0 and SCO whatever)
14:05.27hrwschurig: neo1973 came with it. I switched to picocom
14:06.57vlozecke: OK ... I could ignore it, the program seems to work correctly, but I just wanted to ask in case it was something well known ... (I guess I'm not the first one writing C++ app with STL on OE systems)
14:09.25meistermmh, 1mb left on my mem, need to clean some apps to do a successful ipkg upgrade
14:10.41zeckevlo: e.g. inhibit stripping of binaries and check if the error goes away
14:13.23vlozecke: euh, what do you mean by this ?
14:20.05Crofton__I don't see this on my c++ stuff
14:20.23Crofton__vlo, I think there is some variable you can set to prevent stripping occuring
14:22.25zeckevlo: I assume that arm-linux-strip removes something from libstdc++ what it would like to have
14:22.50zeckevlo: we have a flag IIRC it is speleed INIHIBT_STRIP which inihibits the call of arm-linux-strip
14:27.43mwester:D I ar u suftwear unjunear, hoo nedes speel chekkers?
14:28.30schurigvlo: I once wrote an STL programm for OE, with gcc-4.1.1, glibc2.3.5+cvsSOMETHING and did not see your linker message
14:28.48schurigvlo: I could link without problem against libstdc++.so
14:29.02schurigvlo: what happens when you "file libstdc++.so" ?
14:30.09schurigvlo: I get this:
14:30.13schurig$ file tmp/cross/arm-linux/lib/libstdc++.so.6.0.8
14:30.13schurigtmp/cross/arm-linux/lib/libstdc++.so.6.0.8: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, ARM, version 1, not stripped
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14:34.30pH5hi lrg
14:40.24koen|labschurig: 'cu' is part of uucp
14:40.44koen|labschurig: 'cu' supports colour terminals and resizing while minicom doesn't
14:40.48koen|labhey lrg
14:41.59hrwkoen|lab: tried picocom?
14:42.12hrwenough for dumb usage of gsm modem ;D
14:42.36koen|labhrw: no yet
14:42.40koen|labnot*
14:46.18lrgmorning all
14:46.22slapin_nbdo anybody knows some tool for python memory profiling?
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15:09.13Crofton|laptopwell, you use a lot of extra cpu time ....
15:10.34koen|labCrofton|laptop: Sigma-delta ADC
15:10.39koen|labso no CPU :)
15:11.07djay-ilkoen|lab: 300Mhz signal then ? :-)
15:11.18Crofton|laptopbut not very many bits, right?
15:11.44meisterwho can i set a french keyboard in console with familiar ?
15:11.46koen|labdjay-il: 600Mhz (nyquist)
15:12.05koen|labCrofton: 60dB SINAD, so ~10 bits
15:12.13djay-ilkoen|lab: ? why the doubling..?
15:12.45koen|labdjay-il: you normally sample at 2x the frequency you want
15:12.51djay-ilok
15:13.04djay-ilha, 60x10 nice
15:14.02djay-ilactually, electronics in lab doesn't work around me...so it's no surprise
15:17.50koen|labCrofton|laptop: the team with the lowest noise && lowest power ADC designs wins some beer :)
15:18.09Crofton|laptophmmm, you have a better program than ours
15:18.43koen|labwe get grades as well :)
15:18.46Crofton|laptopthis is some form of class project?
15:19.41koen|labcourse project
15:19.56koen|labthe ESP course has lab assigments, an exam and 3 projects
15:20.03Crofton|laptopand beer
15:20.06koen|lab:)
15:20.11koen|labonly for the SD project
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15:24.00koen|labRP,hrw : you might want to merge back the working recipe for apt into poky
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15:25.23hrwkoen|lab: thx
15:26.38koen|labhrw: and add an EXTRA_OECONF_append_poky
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16:14.37pH5Keysym not found, for key definition '????Pressed XF86PowerDown'
16:15.17pH5keylaunch fails with that. I remember I've seen it before. is this a problem with my libx11?
16:15.35koenlinux-libc-headers iirc
16:17.12pH5XStringToKeysym("XF86PowerDown") returns 0. But why? XStringToKeysym("F12") works.
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16:26.54apaulsenI would like to put a file both in STAGING_DATADIR and the base package.  It looks like do_stage() is working with files that are in the install/${PN}-dev/usr directory.  Can I make do_stage() install files from install/${PN} instead?  Or can I make a file appear in both places from do_install()?
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16:28.21koenapaulsen: do_stage operates on ${S}, not on ${D}
16:29.12gremlin[it]good evening to all
16:29.36koenhey gremlin[it]
16:29.44gremlin[it]hi koen !
16:29.59koenapt working, PE working, xorg 7.2, gsmd fixes
16:30.13koenseems today was a productive day for OE engineers
16:32.23pH5koen: still, it doesn't look like we'll make 2007.1 :)
16:32.40koen2007.1 was 2 months ago :)
16:33.59pH5koen: I started reading that 2007.Q1 in february :)
16:34.22koenkoen@h2200:~$ uptime
16:34.23koen<PROTECTED>
16:34.30koenangstrom seems to be pretty stable
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16:40.39koenpH5: what would you want in an angstrom release that isn't present now?
16:42.48pH5X11R7.3
16:42.57mr_niceot: is there a way to compile/emulate openmoko on x86 desktop to programm an applikation for it?
16:44.04koenpH5: btw, no more diet-x11?
16:44.19koenmr_nice: MACHINE=native ; bitbake openmoko-devel-image
16:44.32mr_nicekoen: thx
16:44.49mr_nicekoen: I will try that
16:45.44pH5koen: no time for that yet. did you have time to work on your idea of more than two libx11 flavours?
16:46.00koennot yet
16:46.05koenI forgot about ut
16:46.08pH5actually, I just notice that even basic libx11-1.1.1 doesn't build correctly
16:46.11koenthanks for reminding me
16:46.29pH5up to install everything is fine, but package generation breaks. I wonder if PE is confusing shlibs
16:46.35pH5see
16:47.20koenpH5: http://rafb.net/p/nU1Y3577.html
16:48.04pH5hm..
16:50.18koenbtw, we need http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MUOn_nJmRA for people with usbhost and mice
16:50.56pH5strange. last time my libx11 was empty. but still, shouldn't it be renamed to libx11-6 or something like that?
16:51.09koenpH5: bitbake -i?
16:51.39koenbitbake -i generates broken packages in 1.8 and trunk
16:51.58koenit should be renamed, but it isn't 'cause libx11-xcb is there as well
16:52.36pH5aah, thanks. how can I fix that?
16:53.00pH5(no, not bitbake -i. but I can't reproduce it now. maybe it's just a thinko)
16:53.13koenPACKAGE =+ libx11-xcb, FILES_libx11-xcb = "<you know>"
16:54.23pH5two handed interaction with gimp or blender would be nice, but not necessarily for handheld devices.
16:55.57apaulsenkoen|away: thanks, that was what I needed
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17:06.18vivijimhi koen, I'm starting mamona conf files from scratch and I could not figure out how to compile to arm eabi instead of pure arm... I'm trying to read the angstrom files trying to figure it out but without success...  can you help me to figure it out?
17:06.44koenvivijim: look for TARGET_OS
17:09.16pH5koen: thanks for that PACKAGE hint
17:10.55koenpH5: http://rafb.net/p/3990oY50.html
17:10.58koenlike that?
17:11.17psokolovsky_| configure: error: XCB requires xsltproc.
17:11.18vivijimkoen uhm got it... but I can not understand that expression from angstrom... is the simple corect way to use linux-gnueabi or linux-gnueabi-arm ?
17:11.24psokolovsky_NOTE: package libxcb-0.9.93: failed
17:11.29psokolovsky_bitbake 1.6
17:11.49koenvivijim: linux-gnueabi
17:12.01vivijimkoen thanks
17:12.13koenpsokolovsky_: seems you need xsltproc-native
17:12.18pH5bbl
17:15.00psokolovsky_i.e. it's not PE leak? apparently no
17:15.13psokolovsky_and ercipe has DEPEND on it, but commented. weird.
17:16.24psokolovsky_aha, so there's no  xsltproc-native. cool.
17:16.42florianvivijim: what is mamona?
17:17.00koenvivijim: SDK/distro for the nokia tablets
17:17.11koenehm
17:17.16koens/vivijim/florian/
17:17.23vivijimflorian: http://blog.vivi.eng.br/
17:17.41psokolovsky_but there's libxslt-native. weird.
17:17.45vivijimflorian:  sorry: http://labs.vivi.eng.br/blog/?p=10
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17:19.42florianvivijim: oh, that sounds pretty good :-)
17:19.48vivijimflorian: we already had a linux from scratch running over qemu to build all deb packages, but now we are moving starting to use OE as our build system to increase or community interaction and avoid monkey work! ;)
17:20.21vivijims/or/our/
17:20.52florianvivijim: that's a good idea... OE is something quite a lot projects are involved in
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17:24.23vivijimyes, we believe so!
17:33.02Ifaistosdoes anyone know which package provides adds dbm support ?
17:33.10koenpH5: could you commit the ./xserver-kdrive/optional-xkb.patch that applies to kdrive 1.2.0?
17:33.13Ifaistosgdbm does not work for perl
17:33.48vivijimkoen florian or someone else: the arm eabi is softfloat by default, but n800 is hardfloat... so how can I say that into my distro? TARGET_FPU_n800="hard" and TARGET_FPU_nokia770="soft" ? it will work? (yes I'm starting to code a conf file to n800 too)
17:34.02koenvivijim: yes
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17:34.39sirfredGood evening all
17:34.45koenhey sirfred
17:35.02sirfredkoen: Next week I'm borrowing a hx4700
17:35.08koensirfred: cool
17:35.15sirfredkoen: As I have a pair of holy days, I expect to make some progress.
17:35.25koensirfred: ph5 should have instruction on how to boot linux from sd instead of flashing it
17:35.39sirfredkoen: That should be nice, I don't want to modify my friend's pda
17:35.59sirfredSo, I don't need to touch the internal flash, do I ?
17:36.02florianvivijim: interesting... why dies the n800 default to hardfloat?
17:36.08florians/dies/does/
17:38.45vivijimflorian: I don't have idea.. all I know is that n800 use harfloat vfp2 ... koen: just "hard" or it needs some more specific like "vfp2" ?
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17:40.09sirfredIt seems there're still some problem with gpe backlight management
17:40.43floriansirfred: oh
17:40.46koenvivijim: 'hard', eabi defaults to vfp
17:41.00florianvivijim: ok :-)
17:41.09sirfredflorian: Oh, you're the florian that accepted my patch, aren't you? :-)
17:41.28floriansirfred: yes :-)
17:41.36sirfredflorian: Nice to meet you
17:41.42koenvivijim: 'require conf/machine/include/tune-arm1136jf-s.conf'
17:41.58koenin n800.conf
17:42.00floriansirfred: are there more issues?
17:42.01sirfredIt seems that when the backlight goes off , it never goes on again, but I'm not sure, I've just experimented it
17:42.14florianoops
17:42.16sirfredflorian: I executed gpe-conf task_backlight and says:
17:42.17sirfredon 0
17:42.18koenvivijim: you can use mx31ads.conf for an example (also 1136 core with vfp)
17:42.30sirfredIt seems an odd value to be on
17:42.32florianI need to try this with an up to date image here as well...
17:43.02sirfredflorian: Perhaps it's just a missconfiguration here
17:43.46sirfredA question about gstreamer. Should it inherit gconf, is that needed?
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17:53.14mrdatahi all
17:53.29mrdatamr_nice: hi
18:04.01jonekhi, does open embedded or open moko have a Google SoC proposal regarding Java (phoneME advanced) support?
18:08.10hrwmorning
18:08.19hrwvivijim: Poky has n800 config and kernel
18:08.28sirfredHello hrw
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18:08.45hrwvivijim: Poky has n800 config and kernel
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18:09.11hrwI do not plan to integrate it in OE (lack of hardware to test and dislike of maemo)
18:09.31hrwhi greentux
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18:09.58cyrilRomainmorning all
18:10.05koenhey cyrilRomain
18:10.05greentuxhi hrw, and you have more or less sparetime in your new job?
18:10.16cyrilRomainhi koen
18:10.20hrwkoen: did you tried dates/openmoko-dates with new package.bbclass?
18:10.24pH5re
18:10.25hrwhi cyrilRomain
18:10.36koenhrw: yes, but I haven't checked depends yet
18:10.43cyrilRomainhi hrw :)
18:10.49hrwgreentux: usually less
18:11.00vivijimhrw: but can you share it with us?
18:11.03hrwkoen: rm tmp/staging/*/shlibs/*dates* first
18:11.44hrwvivijim: Poky SVN is open for anonymous access
18:11.44greentuxhrw:  thats the freelancer problem
18:11.46vivi|note# glibc:
18:11.47vivi|notePREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/libiconv ?= "glibc"
18:11.47vivi|notePREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/libintl ?= "glibc"
18:11.47vivi|notePREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/libc ?= "glibc"
18:11.47vivi|note#NPTL stuff
18:11.47vivi|notePREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/${TARGET_PREFIX}libc-for-gcc = "glibc-intermediate"
18:11.49vivi|notePREFERRED_VERSION_glibc ?= "2.5"
18:11.51vivi|notePREFERRED_VERSION_glibc-intermediate ?= "2.5"
18:11.53vivi|notePREFERRED_VERSION_glibc-initial ?= "2.5"
18:11.58hrw~pastebin
18:12.04ibotextra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try  http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or http://rafb.net/paste/, or http://pastebin.com is usually painfully too slow and unresponsive to use, use one of the other pastebin sites, or dpaste.com is a very nice pastebin as well
18:12.04pH5koen, sirfred: are there news on imageon on hx4700?
18:12.04koenvivi|note: rafb.net/paste
18:12.09koenpH5: not yet
18:12.27sirfredpH5: Next week I'm borrowing one from a friend
18:12.32hrwgreentux: but I like that job ;)
18:12.52greentuxhrw thats the most important
18:13.07pH5sirfred: ah, good :)
18:13.19sirfredpH5: An easy and *fast* procedure to have linux running on a SD ?
18:14.49sirfredpH5: Without need to modify anything in the machine, is that possible?
18:14.49hrwsirfred: haret?
18:14.49pH5haret.
18:14.49vivi|notekoen sory about this paste, what I want to know is that is this sufficient to make it build using glibc-2.5... because my build is using glib2.3 and broken :(
18:14.49hrwsirfred: let your friend do full backup first
18:14.49sirfredhrw: :)
18:14.49koenvivi|note: copy the angstrom configs :)
18:14.49CIA-1103florian 07org.oe.dev * re537e433... 10/ (1 packages/libgpewidget/libgpewidget_0.115.bb): libgpewidget: Add 0.115
18:14.50CIA-1103hrw 07org.oe.dev * ra5a1bb0d... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): sapwood: fixed packaging, recreated patch
18:14.50sirfredhrw: I just expect not to return him a beautiful brick
18:14.50CIA-1103pH5 07org.oe.dev * r39d93a99... 10/ (1 packages/gimp/gimp_2.3.10.bb): gimp: fix debug packaging
18:14.50hrwvivijim: not copy - include them
18:14.50CIA-1103pH5 07org.oe.dev * ra169800c... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
18:14.50CIA-11libgsmd: add TI/HTC GSM chipset support and ldisc switching support for magician
18:14.50CIA-11- this is a temporary measure and will be reverted once machine plugin support is in place
18:14.50CIA-1103pH5 07org.oe.dev * rdc90a1a9... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): magician: add N_TIHTC to handhelds-linux-2.6 defconfig and machine.conf
18:14.52CIA-1103pH5 07org.oe.dev * r7bdad482... 10/ (1 conf/machine/magician.conf): magician.conf: autoload n_tihtc.ko
18:14.56CIA-1103pH5 07org.oe.dev * r9bc9e7c2... 10/ (1 conf/machine/hx4700.conf): hx4700.conf: add voltage switching, bluetooth modules
18:15.05CIA-1103pH5 07org.oe.dev * r4c365b71... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
18:15.05CIA-11libgsmd: gsmd/magician: add patch to wait for the interpreter
18:15.05CIA-11to be ready before sending
18:15.13CIA-1103pH5 07org.oe.dev * rc017d627... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-lib/libx11_1.1.1.bb): libx11-1.1.1: fix packaging
18:15.23CIA-1103koen 07org.oe.dev * r07c919d1... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf): angstrom: prefer gcc 4.1.2 as native compiler (cross versions are still 4.1.1)
18:15.31CIA-1103hrw 07org.oe.dev * rb4020cab... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): php: dropped 4.3.6/4.3.10
18:15.43hrwcia awake finally
18:15.46koengo cia
18:16.05vivijimhrw: sorry, where should I include?
18:16.38pH5heh. I'm third active dev on cia.vc, that's a first.
18:16.41hrwvivijim: if you use own distro then you can copy from angstrom ones or include angstrom one in your distro config
18:16.42CIA-1103pH5 07org.oe.dev * rbb10d8a3... 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): xserver-kdrive-1.2.0: missing optional-xkb.patch
18:16.44sirfredI see that haret is a bootloader that runs from windows CE.
18:16.47CIA-1103koen 07org.oe.dev * r37479993... 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): kdrive 1.2: rediff optional-xkb.patch
18:16.53koenheh
18:17.02pH5that's probably a sign I should think more before committing.
18:17.02hrwsirfred: exactly
18:17.07hrw~haret
18:17.11ibotmethinks haret is HAndheld Reverse Engineering Toolkit, available at anoncvs@cvs.handhelds.org:/cvs/haret (CVS sources) or projectpage: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET
18:17.15sirfredThat will meet my needs.
18:17.21mr_nicemrdata: hi
18:17.34sirfred~You are wise
18:17.35ibotsirfred: what are you talking about?
18:17.39sirfrednothing...
18:17.44hrwsirfred: this and card which will have rootfs on it
18:18.04mr_nicemrdata: I have tryed to find the bug but I didn't found out much
18:18.22mrdatamr_nice: hi, not so bad
18:18.23sirfredhrw: nice
18:18.53hrwsirfred: best way is sd card with two partitions: p1/vfat with kernel and haret, p2/ext2 with rootfs
18:19.06mrdatamr_nice: the bug would not be trivial, so we need some time for it
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18:19.28hrwsirfred: so pocketpc will use p1 and allow to run haret (which will read kernel from card) and kernel need to have root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 in cmdline
18:19.31hrwhi Lorn
18:19.42sirfredhrw: Seems reasonable
18:20.11hrwsirfred: the funniest thing is that I never owned pocketpc device, never had such one for longer then 20 minutes in hands and never ever saw haret working ;D
18:20.11sirfredhrw: I've seen you closed my bug about starling. Have you been able to make it run on a zaurus?
18:20.15pH5sirfred: that's the way I always do it. and if there is wm2005 on the hx4700, you don't even have to backup the data.
18:20.22mr_nicemrdata: here is my latest pastebin http://pastebin.ca/414854. I also have messed up the adress of r3 now. this is a result of adding {} and a printk inside the brackets
18:20.28vivijimhrw: ok, I can include the angstrom-glibc.inc but I believe that I'm missing something.. I believe that even including I'll get the glibc2.3 instead of 2.5
18:20.31hrwsirfred: I built it for neo before but it does not run
18:20.55sirfredhrw: I'm getting a segfault in play_list_set_sink, but perhaps it's a gstreamer issue.
18:21.02hrwvivijim: angstrom use glibc 2.5 on arm
18:21.05sirfredI'm getting very ugly warnings.
18:21.17hrwsirfred: starling is from gstreamer 0.8 times
18:21.19sirfredpH5: ok.
18:21.22sirfredhrw: oh
18:21.33koenhrw: starling svn should be 0.10 ready
18:21.38koenneal rewrote it :)
18:21.46hrwkoen: but OE one is not ;D
18:21.48sirfredkoen: I'm using starling_svn.bb I've just created.
18:21.54hrwsomeone need to update it then
18:21.57sirfredkoen: And I'm getting the same sigsegv.
18:22.00CIA-1103koen 07org.oe.dev * r915e7bca... 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): disapproval of revision '3747999334cad4bb22159396976a802d18c50703'
18:22.06sirfredhrw: I can open a bug with my .bb
18:22.13sirfredDoing it in a minute
18:22.22hrwok, I will add it then tomorrow probably
18:22.29hrwsirfred: does svn version works?
18:22.39sirfredhrw: No, same errors as I've said
18:22.41mr_nicemrdata: I cannot find out hte right definitions for struct resource and struct device which are part of the struct platform_device. I only fund something linke struct device; without any information about the proper types. so I was not able to add printks for that values
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18:23.00sirfredhrw: But my gstreamer install, well, postinstall is trying to use gconftool-2 for registering something.
18:23.10sirfredI don't know if its state on my zaurus is good
18:23.30sirfredhrw: I was wondering if inherit gconf is needed for gstreamer plugins.
18:23.42hrwsirfred: there is gst-plugin-gconf
18:24.03hrwI do not know who use it
18:24.07hrwhi _law_
18:24.20sirfredhrw: I'm a totally newbie in gstreamer.
18:24.32mr_nicemrdata: do you know what programm counter means? I found that as a definition for PC Value
18:24.37hrwsirfred: I was doing some work on gstremer lately but it was not x11 based
18:24.38_law_hi hrw
18:25.09hrwmr_nice: and in most programming environments PC === programm counter
18:25.48mrdatamr_nice: struct device is defined in /include/linux/device.h search for "struct device {"
18:26.53sirfredhrw: It is bug 2063
18:27.20hrw!oebud 2063
18:27.26hrw!oebug 2063
18:27.27cdbot2* * Bug 2063, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-03-29 11:31
18:27.28cdbot2* * manuel.teira(AT)telefonica.net: New starling svn package
18:27.29cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2063
18:27.34mrdatamr_nice: for sa1100 i must read the manual before i can it say right, but i know that the programm counter
18:28.36mr_nicemrdata: thx I found the definition
18:28.37mrdatamr_nice: holds the value of the address of the actual order
18:29.40mr_nicemrdata: ah, so the adress is wrong?
18:30.32mr_nicemrdata: I will add more prinks and see what happens then.
18:33.09mrdatamr_nice: the program counter should be in the range from 0 to 64MB inside the address range of the sa1100
18:34.22pH5gpe-session-scripts RDEPENDS on matchbox-panel (>= 0.9.2-r12), but angstrom-x11-image do_rootfs fails because it doesn't think matchbox-panel 0.9.3-r2 satisfies that dependency :(
18:35.14koenpH5: You can remove the version numbers
18:35.28koenas soon as the scsi controller stops being an ass I can commit it
18:35.37koenCpu0  :  0.0%us,  0.0%sy,  0.0%ni,  0.0%id,100.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
18:35.37koenCpu1  :  0.0%us,  0.0%sy,  0.0%ni,  0.0%id,100.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
18:39.32chouimathi
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18:39.55mreimer_hello all
18:40.08hrwhi Matt
18:40.20sirfredmreimer_: Hello
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18:42.50mreimer_Would anyone here be interested in a little shell script that makes psplash fill the progress bar on a timer? It writes out how long a boot-up takes (say, 46 seconds) and then on the subsequent boot it fills the progress bar so that it's full by that time
18:43.20mreimer_makes it way easier than trying to psplash-write in all the initscripts
18:45.53pH5koen: ok, that helped
18:45.57pH5hi mreimer_
18:47.41koenhey mreimer_
18:48.14mr_nicemreimer_: I am no oe dev or something but doing that is not a good idea I think. e.g if the system hangs on dhcp request or if it fscks something the bar gets useless then.
18:49.02CIA-1103koen 07org.oe.dev * r56b25a11... 10/ (1 packages/gpe-session-scripts/gpe-session-scripts_0.67.bb): gpe-sessionscripts: remove PV in depends
18:49.07mreimer_mr_nice: yes, that's the downside of it
18:50.00koenFWIW, nokia uses that method on their tablets
18:51.23mrdatamr_nice: like zecke yesterday said, i had begin with a fresh vanilla kernel again
18:51.41mrdatamr_nice: Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 645f6370, same by me now
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18:52.32mrdata<mrdata> mr_nice: like zecke yesterday said, i had begin with a fresh vanilla kernel again
18:52.48mrdatamr_nice: Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 645f6370, same by me now
18:53.26gremlin[it]hi all, what is the package responsable to setup (or not) a valid root password ???
18:53.33koenhrw: your INTERNAL thingy works. Thanks!
18:53.51mr_nicemrdata: yes, and I am was able to destroy that adress by adding a {... printk} to the if statement
18:54.03vivi|notePREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/${TARGET_PREFIX}libc-for-gcc = "glibc-intermediate"
18:54.10vivi|notewhat this virtual means?
18:54.38hrwcu all
18:54.44koenvivi|note: it means that there are more providers for it (e.g. uclibc, glibc, newlib, etc)
18:54.51hrwklibc
18:56.17vivi|noteuhm... because I'm including angstrom-glibc.inc and using this options like angstrom does, but it still insist in using glibc2.3 :( and I don't have more ideas about how to change this...
18:56.43vivi|notedo you have any idea where can I making a mistake?
18:57.51gremlin[it]what is the package responsable to setup (or not) a valid root password in building stage, not in runtime startup/config of target ?
18:59.19mr_nicemrdata: It is hard for me to add all the needed prinks there are a lot of things I don't know which %{s,i,d...} I need. But I will try to get a complete printk output of the struct
19:00.56mr_nicemrdata: :) http://kernelnewbies.org/FAQ/LinuxKernelDebug101 -> dev_info
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19:02.30gremlin[it]please no one can help me ??? Angstrom don't work on ipaq h3600 ... i cannot build the debug image cause it's too big ... but normal one have some but and inital root password setup con't run ... so i have a system wgere i cannot login !!!
19:02.49gremlin[it]s/some but/some bug/
19:05.34mmpgremlin[it]: I'm just guessing - try running with kernel param init="/bin/busybox sh"
19:05.37mmpor something like that...
19:05.40mrdatamr_nice: the struct expanding is like a game, i need realy a posibility to use a debugger
19:06.59gremlin[it]ok let's try mmp, thanks ...
19:07.03mrdatamr_nice: then we had a clean view of the result from the code compiling (adresses and so one)
19:07.35gremlin[it]mmp ... if build in debug more final image already have a empty (valid) root password ... :)
19:08.10mmpgremlin[it]: but why there would be some password for non-debug image?
19:08.39mr_nicemrdata: the problem is to find one for arm
19:09.15gremlin[it]mmp yes ok .. but if i know the package that do i can force this one only to beuild in debug mode ;)
19:10.25mmpgremlin[it]: hmm, yes, but I'm afraid I can't help you with this much, I don't know angstrom very well..
19:11.22mr_nicemrdata: hm kdb seems to be available for arm
19:11.54mr_nicemrdata: https://gforge.inria.fr/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/vanilla-kernels/linux-2.6.20/Documentation/kdb/kdb_bp.man?rev=1341&root=kerrighed&view=markup
19:11.59mrdatamr_nice: for the right usage of %{s,i,d ...} -> http://home.fhtw-berlin.de/~junghans/cref/FUNCTIONS/format.html
19:17.26mr_nicemrdata: my problem is that sometimes there are kernel own type definitions. and I don't know if the types are big enough to keep the data. or if they make sense.
19:17.28mrdatamr_nice: thx!, struct resource is defined in /include/linux/ioport.h
19:17.40mr_nicemrdata: thx
19:18.05mr_nicemrdata: I will read the kdb manual
19:18.37mr_nicemrdata: found a good start http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-kdbug/
19:18.57mrdatamr_nice: any type definitions should be a part of 8
19:21.42mrdatamr_nice: and than came the processor part (8; 16; 32 bit) organization, plus c-language how big is a byte, word, int, long ...
19:22.44mrdatamr_nice: and the operating-system-logic (16; 32 bit)
19:23.16mr_nicemrdata: thx, I will read that definitions a second
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19:42.20CIA-1103florian 07org.oe.dev * r7c241467... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-sdk.bb): task-sdk: Update various bits to current names.
19:42.25CIA-1103florian 07org.oe.dev * r5a68fd7d... 10/ (1 packages/meta/meta-sdk-sbox.bb):
19:42.25CIA-11meta-sdk-sbox: Start of a scratchbox based SDK.
19:42.25CIA-11Currently creates a rootstrap which can be used after importing the crosscompiler.
19:42.25CIA-11Compiling seems to work but running applications doesn't.
19:45.31gremlin[it]no way ... no enought space to write /etc/shadow :( .... grrrrrr
19:45.54gremlin[it]~ibot last blowing libraries
19:46.06gremlin[it]~ibot lart blowing libraries
19:46.07ibotshoots blowing libraries in the head
19:46.53mmpgremlin[it]: remove some not-so-neccessary packages...
19:47.09mmpor libraries:)
19:48.58gremlin[it]i try ... but i don't know exactly what to delete ... i cut off about 1M of /usr/local/share/X11 ... but still no space :(
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19:51.01psokolovsky_pH5: INPUT_MISC ?= m - is this for UINPUT?
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19:51.48pH5psokolovsky_: yes
19:51.54psokolovsky_ok
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19:56.16CIA-1103koen 07org.oe.dev * r33ef9583... 10/ (1 packages/meta/meta-sdk-sbox.bb): meta-sdk-sbox: remove hardcodes references, reuse functions instead of copy-pasting them, and we have an SCM, so no need to comment stuff
19:56.34mmpgremlin[it]: weird..
19:56.44mmp1MB should be enough for such simple operation
19:58.00gremlin[it]yes .... seem nothing change if i delete things :(
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19:58.55vivi|noteNOTE: preferred version 2.5 of glibc not available NOTE: multiple providers are available (glibc, glibc-intermediate); NOTE: consider defining PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/arm-linux-gnueabi-libc-for-gcc NOTE: package linux-libc-headers-2.6.15.99: started NOTE: package linux-libc-headers-2.6.15.99: completed NOTE: package glibc-2.3.5+cvs20050627: started
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19:59.26vivi|notekoen any idea why the build is using glib2.3 insteadof glib2.5
19:59.37koenvivijim: try including angstrom-2007.1.conf
20:00.04zeckekoen: http://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11308 building WebKit is a mess
20:00.12zeckekoen: specially if you don't use xcodebuild :}
20:00.22koenzecke: duh
20:00.28koentold you a few weeks ago
20:01.04zeckekoen: even the cmake stuff is orphaned
20:01.49gremlin[it]ok ... but removing a big library (gtk) ... but i can do nothing without it !!!!
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20:30.07gremlin[it]ok finallu h3600 barelly run Angstrom
20:40.32likewisehello all
20:41.35HopsNBarleyhi likewise!
20:41.51likewisehi HopsNBarley
20:44.11koenHopsNBarley: I'll be in CA from 15 to 21 april
20:44.18koencelf confirmed my flight(s)
20:44.54gremlin[it]koen travel-pingeon :)
20:47.12Crofton|laptopkoen, you fly direct to west coast?
20:48.51koenCrofton|laptop: no, chicago in between
20:48.59koencan't really complain, though
20:49.10koenmore time to read books :)
20:49.26Crofton|laptopI'm no where near chicago :)
20:51.05likewiseWhat should my bb look like to make it fetch CVS head on every build?
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20:54.32koenlikewise: do_configure_prepend() {cvs up -dP}
20:54.39koenthat's the best I can come up with
20:55.13koenother ways are fumbling with CVSDATE or setting nostamp on fetch
20:56.30zecke_SRCDATE now for cvs?
20:57.11koenzecke_: that doesn't work as you'd expect (see the openmoko hacks)
20:59.43zecke_it works as advertised
21:00.20zecke_koen: or to liberally cite Chris: "I concentrated on a couple of usecases, this was not one of them"
21:00.26sirfredAny reason for gstreamer plugins being configured with --disable-x ?
21:00.44koensirfred: no good reason
21:00.49zecke_sirfred: they can be used on directFB only
21:01.41sirfredzecke_: What do you mean?
21:01.41sirfredzecke_: Is there any reason preventing them to be used on x?
21:02.08zecke_sirfred: do you want to compile directFB if you build X? Do you want it the other way around?
21:02.42sirfredzecke_: No, but you don't need to install the x related plugins in a DirectFB environment, isn't that enough?
21:02.55zecke_sirfred: http://www.directfb.org/images/RIP-X.png :)
21:03.11sirfredzecke_: :)
21:03.15sirfredzecke_: Who are they?
21:03.59zecke_sirfred: Convergence folk (left-to-right) Neo (gimp), ?, Dok, Mitch? (Gtk/Gimp)
21:04.28zecke_sirfred: I think tmbinc added gstreamer, he is not using X at all. Forcing him to compile X will ~tripple his build times
21:04.43zecke_sirfred: if you want to build X, would you be happy to build QtopiaCore and directFB all the time?
21:04.47sirfredzecke_: Perhaps we could have different bb files.
21:05.06sirfredzecke_: No, of course. But what about gst-plugins-good-x and gst-plugins-good-directfb packages?
21:05.21zecke_sirfred: packages or different recipes?
21:05.28sirfredzecke_: Recipes, I mean
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21:06.10zecke_sirfred: I think this is one of the fundamental issues we have to solve in OE. (automatic feature configuration based on 'flags')
21:06.20tmbinc_*agree*
21:06.27sirfredzecke_: That should be nice, yes.
21:06.42tmbinc_some global customization parameters
21:06.55woglindehe tmbinc :)
21:06.58zecke_tmbinc_: we need to help you merging, if I just would have more *time* :}
21:07.02tmbinc_like a global "debug" flag, which allows packages to automatically build non-debug builds (not just stripping)
21:07.15tmbinc_zecke_: if i just had more time, i'd be happy to merge :)
21:07.24zecke_;)
21:08.02zecke_sirfred: create a recipe that provides the additional X sinks
21:08.12sirfredSo, the feature we need in OE is a time expander.
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21:09.49tmbinc_hm, wouldn't fixing gstreamer be better?
21:09.53tmbinc_to not rely on X?
21:10.07tmbinc_it would then autodetect if X is there or not. I just added --disable-x because it wouldn't compile otherwise
21:10.08sirfredtmbinc_: THere are things like xv sinks that are X specific
21:10.18tmbinc_gstreamer's configure should be smart enough to disable these sinks then
21:10.44tmbinc_It might even be already fixed
21:10.44flo_n800hi
21:10.58tmbinc_you could then work out a mechanism so that X is only build before if you want X
21:11.00sirfredtmbinc_: It disables them, if it doesn't find the dependencies.
21:11.10zecke_tmbinc_: well, generally we want to avoid those coincidences. We want to have a tight control on what features get build
21:11.18sirfredtmbinc_: If you don't have libxv , then the xv sink is not compiled.
21:11.25tmbinc_sirfred: it didn't, back when i tried. otherwise i wouldn't had added the --disable-x
21:11.37tmbinc_it was a "get this thing compiling, *now*"-type of "fix"
21:11.38sirfredtmbinc_: ok
21:11.58sirfredtmbinc_: I have compiled them without that flag.
21:12.15tmbinc_maybe it's already fixed? or was only relevant for one of the plugin packages?
21:12.16sirfredtmbinc_: But I have libxv and friends in the staging, of course.
21:12.21tmbinc_oh ok
21:12.27tmbinc_well i didn't
21:12.41sirfredtmbinc_: I don't know what would happen if I didn't have that staged
21:13.51tmbinc_zecke_: true. but --disable-x is superflous, isn't it? X is either there or not. If it's not there and should be, that's a bug in OE. If it's not there and gstreamer fails to detect that, it's a bug in gstreamer. We should not override the whole configure mechanism just because something *might be* buggy - or do i miss the point?
21:14.18zecke_tmbinc_: well. e.g. angstrom could support directFB and X based UIs
21:14.39zecke_tmbinc_: and then gstreamer support would depend on the order of the build
21:14.42tmbinc_maybe a post check if the wanted modules were built? but that's part of the image building process, which should depend on the required modules. If something is incorrectly not build, then it will be detected there.
21:14.58tmbinc_zecke_: hm right. then gstreamer should depend on something like "x_or_not_x"
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21:16.17zecke_tmbinc_: E.g. all possible dependencies should build a graph. Each node is connected with a maybe-edge. Externally these maybe-edges can be defined and then we replace these maybe-edges with true edges/DEPENDS and if nothing more is to do, we are done and can save the configuration :}
21:16.31zecke_tmbinc_: as to disable debug completely, there is a global CPPFLAG for that
21:17.11tmbinc_zecke_: i'm not talking about -g or something. gstreamer for example has a --disable-debug (which is non-default)
21:21.16NAiLcan anyone help me a bit with bootstrap-image? I'm getting the output here: http://pastebin.ca/415812
21:23.02woglindenail hm seems some quoting is wrong
21:23.20NAiLyeah, but where does it come from?
21:23.43woglindebad .bb file or something in your local.conf?
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21:25.53NAiLwhy does it bomb out in bootstrap-image?
21:26.02NAiLtask-base builds just fine
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21:41.35likewisekoen: do_configure_prepend() {cvs up -dP} would not work if stamps are still made
21:53.17CoreDump|homehi
21:57.56sirfredGood night
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