| 00:03.12 | rwhitby | CoreDump|home: there was someone on the mailing list who had tried it, before the syscall number change. |
| 00:03.16 | rwhitby | I haven't tried it myself. |
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| 02:58.01 | jselect | hi all |
| 02:58.32 | jselect | can you define an ipkg temporary directory in ipkg.conf ?there's not much documentation on temporary dirs for it afaik |
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| 05:03.55 | CIA-11 | 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r7584fa59... 10/ (1 packages/perl/perl.inc): |
| 05:03.55 | CIA-11 | perl: Fix perl build for sh3/sh4. The recent change to support powerpc was |
| 05:03.55 | CIA-11 | wiping out the options that were set for sh3/sh4 - we only need to init the |
| 05:03.55 | CIA-11 | OPTIONS once. |
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| 05:43.04 | O_Neil | Hi everyone |
| 05:44.18 | O_Neil | I want to ask which one should I use in bb and bbclass, "TAB" or "SPACE" ? |
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| 05:46.00 | O_Neil | I have been asked to submit bb file to bugzilla that use "SPACE" instead of TAB, but there are alot bbclasses contain "TAB" |
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| 05:46.39 | O_Neil | sometimes it results in parsing failure |
| 05:46.42 | Sleep_Walker | too young to build OE |
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| 05:54.31 | mwester | O_Neil: http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/StyleGuide |
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| 06:03.41 | O_Neil | thanks mwester |
| 06:04.34 | koen | good morning all |
| 06:13.54 | O_Neil | hi koen |
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| 07:12.26 | Ifaistos | morning all |
| 07:15.39 | hrw | morning |
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| 08:05.59 | XorA | morning |
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| 08:36.30 | RP | morning all |
| 08:36.44 | NAiL | morning RP |
| 08:56.22 | koen|lab | hey RP |
| 08:56.53 | koen|lab | !oebug 2080 |
| 08:56.55 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 2080, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-04-04 00:04 |
| 08:56.56 | cdbot2 | * * koen(AT)dominion.kabel.utwente.nl: Bitbake trunk (1.9) doesn't remember errors |
| 08:56.57 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2080 |
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| 08:59.10 | do13_ | morning all |
| 08:59.20 | koen|lab | hey do13_ |
| 08:59.28 | do13_ | hi koen|lab |
| 08:59.58 | do13_ | koen|lab: what kind of lab? |
| 09:00.09 | koen|lab | do13_: uni EE lab |
| 09:00.52 | do13_ | koen|lab: can't remember these times :) |
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| 09:02.44 | rwhitby | I walked around my old uni a couple of weeks ago (doing a recruitment presentation to the final year students). It felt almost the same as when I was there 20 years ago. Only some new buildings. |
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| 09:08.34 | woglinde | hi |
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| 09:15.05 | RP | koen|lab: That doesn't sound good :/ |
| 09:19.20 | woglinde | hi rp |
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| 09:28.00 | Crofton | bm |
| 09:28.52 | woglinde | hi crofton |
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| 09:33.26 | Zytec | A newby question: I want to install a packages, though with some different configuration paths when it is executing on my target device |
| 09:34.47 | Zytec | I gues it's best to create a seperate bb file that depends on the original package, but how do I then path the configuration of the target device? |
| 09:35.14 | Zytec | Just by overwriting the original installed init script from my newly made bb file? |
| 09:37.07 | koen|lab | RP: the vernier thing looks cute, btw |
| 09:39.52 | RP | koen|lab: and developed with poky too :) |
| 09:40.02 | koen|lab | yes :) |
| 09:41.28 | hrw | it was my first OH work ;D |
| 09:44.35 | rwhitby | NOTE: package util-linux-2.12r-r10: task do_compile: failed |
| 09:44.58 | rwhitby | umount.c:45: error: expected declaration specifiers or '...' before 'umount2' |
| 09:45.20 | rwhitby | wonder what's caused that to suddenly break ... |
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| 09:52.59 | rwhitby | last change to util-linux recipe was 12 dec 2006 - how can it be suddenly failing now (there was an independent report of this in #openmoko today) |
| 09:53.51 | pH5 | rwhitby: new kernel headers, probably. I had the same problem when upgrading to 2.6.18 - now where was that fix, I can't find it in util-linux/files... |
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| 10:06.34 | hrw | 3 years of OE passed |
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| 10:14.32 | flo_netvista | hi |
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| 10:33.01 | Ifaistos | has anyone seen anything like that with bitbake ->http://rafb.net/p/mfPHc958.html |
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| 10:35.00 | mr_nice | hi all |
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| 10:45.44 | slapin_nb | hi, all! |
| 10:46.03 | djay-il | hi all |
| 10:46.07 | slapin_nb | which target will allow me to build kernel zImage? |
| 10:47.17 | koen|lab | virtual/kernel |
| 10:47.23 | koen|lab | (depending on your machine |
| 10:47.25 | koen|lab | ) |
| 10:50.47 | Ifaistos | hmmm it seems that if bitbake has a problem with the patch it leaves a thread working |
| 10:52.08 | Ifaistos | 21903 pts/1 T 0:08 python /proj/oplinux-0.2/bitbake/bin/bitbake opsis-asterisk |
| 10:52.41 | mr_nice | woglinde: hi, I have tryed the speed of a cf card myself now. what is "slow" for you? and how did you tested it? |
| 10:57.55 | slapin_nb | is non-working puzzles news, or was it fixed? |
| 10:58.50 | slapin_nb | koen|lab, thanks! |
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| 11:32.25 | RP | Ifaistos: You probably need the interactive tasks patch I mentioned on the mailing list. I need to commit that (and some others) |
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| 11:34.28 | woglinde | mr_nice he |
| 11:34.39 | woglinde | mr_nice the first ls was really slow |
| 11:34.48 | woglinde | becaus the cf had many files |
| 11:34.53 | woglinde | but now I am happy |
| 11:36.42 | mr_nice | woglinde: :) |
| 11:38.19 | mr_nice | woglinde: that's fine. I got xynth running on my pad :) http://opensimpad.org/index.php/SLACKpad#xynth |
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| 11:41.31 | woglinde | mr_nice can you dig at the ipc error? |
| 11:42.13 | woglinde | it happens with syslog too besides opie |
| 11:42.59 | slapin_nb | !oebug 2081 |
| 11:43.00 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 2081, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-04-04 04:48 |
| 11:43.01 | cdbot2 | * * slapinid(AT)gmail.com: puzzles package fetch failure |
| 11:43.02 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2081 |
| 11:43.14 | slapin_nb | any ideas? |
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| 11:44.57 | woglinde | slapin did yous earch with google where the new location is? |
| 11:45.07 | hrw | slapin_nb: upgrade to available snapshot |
| 11:45.20 | woglinde | ah okay |
| 11:45.22 | woglinde | hi hrw |
| 11:48.10 | woglinde | mr_nice next thing I will do is to check if rp's lzo patches works on simpad too |
| 11:49.16 | slapin_nb | hrw, why not use http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/puzzles/puzzles.tar.gz in package? |
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| 11:49.28 | CIA-11 | 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r3066a734... 10/ (6 files in 5 dirs): madfu: Add package madfu, to load firmware for m-audio devices |
| 11:49.32 | pH5 | slapin_nb: because we then have no or the wrong version information |
| 11:49.46 | pH5 | I just updated puzzles |
| 11:50.18 | CIA-11 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r89b237f2... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): puzzles: update to r7436 |
| 11:53.09 | mr_nice|laundere | woglinde: I will try to build a opie image to see the error. lzo patch? sorry I really need to go to the launderette now else my girfriend will kill me ;) see you later |
| 11:53.24 | woglinde | mr_nice no, syslogd is enough |
| 11:53.30 | slapin_nb | pH5, probably SVN checkouts could be better solution here? |
| 11:53.54 | woglinde | mr_nice okay will see you next probaly I am on vaction than |
| 11:54.02 | woglinde | args |
| 11:54.36 | pH5 | slapin_nb: this is a very good idea. |
| 11:55.45 | slapin_nb | pH5, svn://ixion.tartarus.org/main/puzzles |
| 11:56.16 | slapin_nb | mtn: 3066a734f02184d60ed86216f8356de08970aefe nail@nslu2-linux.org 2007-04-04T11:48:40 |
| 11:56.16 | slapin_nb | mtn: 89b237f2bb444f1ebbbd18dfa8c97fadd289e6ca pH5@openembedded.org 2007-04-04T11:48:40 |
| 11:56.25 | slapin_nb | 2 heads :( |
| 11:56.52 | pH5 | NAiL: I'll merge. |
| 11:58.13 | NAiL | I already did |
| 11:59.12 | RP | pH5, slapin_nb: I keep meaning to switch it to svn checkouts... |
| 11:59.28 | NAiL | slapin_nb: heads merged |
| 11:59.51 | slapin_nb | NAiL, thanks! |
| 11:59.56 | CIA-11 | 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r5a224ad4... 10/ (1 packages/madfu/madfu_1.2.bb): madfu: Clean up so it matches oe style guide |
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| 12:01.18 | koen|lab | (oe has an automerger as well nowadays) |
| 12:10.13 | NAiL | mickey|bbl: Your removal of "outdated" ipkg versions broke the slugos builds. |
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| 12:11.19 | NAiL | ipkg-native fails on install |
| 12:11.32 | NAiL | make[2]: Entering directory `/home/slug/slugosle/tmp/work/i686-linux/ipkg-native-0.99.163-r1/ipkg-0.99.163' |
| 12:11.35 | NAiL | make[2]: *** No rule to make target `install'. Stop. |
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| 12:12.51 | CIA-11 | 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r0dce271d... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): gtk+: Apply patch to 2.6.10 to allow background images in iconview styles. |
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| 12:38.43 | _bambam | hi |
| 12:39.37 | _bambam | i'm having an issue on buildin openmoko-image on package libxcb which is asking for dep xsltproc, which still isn't present after build libxslt |
| 12:39.44 | _bambam | anyone has an idea? |
| 12:40.29 | koen|lab | apt-get install xsltproc |
| 12:40.57 | _bambam | koen|lab: so i need it on the native side? |
| 12:42.45 | XorA | ljp: ping |
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| 12:46.34 | psokolovsky | Hi folks! |
| 12:47.01 | psokolovsky | FYI, I just committed fix for ipkg-utils-native which was discussed last week on the list. |
| 12:47.17 | psokolovsky | please ping me in case of any issue, or reopen: |
| 12:47.21 | psokolovsky | !oebug 2061 |
| 12:47.23 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 2061, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-03-29 05:42 |
| 12:47.24 | cdbot2 | * * pmiscml(AT)gmail.com: Fix broken version comparison in ipkg-make-index |
| 12:47.25 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2061 |
| 12:47.38 | psokolovsky | !oebug 2061 |
| 12:47.39 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 2061, Status: RESOLVED (FIXED), Created: 2007-03-29 05:42 |
| 12:47.41 | cdbot2 | * * pmiscml(AT)gmail.com: Fix broken version comparison in ipkg-make-index |
| 12:47.41 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2061 |
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| 12:56.36 | CIA-11 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rb8bba4b9... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 12:56.36 | CIA-11 | ipkg-utils-native 1.6+cvs20050404: Fix version comparision algorithm, now |
| 12:56.36 | CIA-11 | it treats version as structured notion, and compares it component by component |
| 12:56.36 | CIA-11 | (epoch (was before), then upstream version, then package revision). |
| 12:56.36 | CIA-11 | * Closes #2061. |
| 12:56.41 | CIA-11 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r1854e2f3... 10/ (1 packages/puzzles/puzzles_svn.bb): puzzles: add svn version |
| 12:56.45 | CIA-11 | 03cbrake 07org.oe.dev * r6cded7d2... 10/ (10 files in 3 dirs): compulab-pxa270: add 2.6.20 version of compulab cm-x270 kernel |
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| 13:17.24 | florian | psokolovsky: very nice! |
| 13:17.50 | psokolovsky | florian: works for you? |
| 13:18.31 | florian | psokolovsky: i didn't try yet... |
| 13:18.41 | psokolovsky | ok ;-) |
| 13:18.52 | psokolovsky | it should work, and w/o any issues of course ;-) |
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| 14:20.05 | chouimat | morning |
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| 14:35.18 | slapin_nb | Anybody remembers was this actually done on 2.6.20: What: Video4Linux API 1 ioctls and video_decoder.h from Video devices. |
| 14:35.18 | slapin_nb | When: December 2006 |
| 14:35.40 | slapin_nb | I mean feature removal from Kernel. |
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| 14:41.11 | koen|lab | v4l2 is the way to go |
| 14:43.17 | RP | slapin_nb: kernel.org/git and look ;-) |
| 14:44.05 | slapin_nb | koen|lab, I know, just trying step by step approach. |
| 14:45.02 | slapin_nb | RP, I'm afraid to die of information intoxication, thanks! |
| 14:45.20 | koen|lab | 15 minutes till the deadline |
| 14:45.26 | hrw | koen|lab: bttv is still v4l1 |
| 14:45.40 | robtaylor | koen|lab: what deadline? |
| 14:45.44 | koen|lab | hrw: I removed my bttv card last month |
| 14:45.53 | koen|lab | robtaylor: the project that makes me be in this lab |
| 14:45.59 | hrw | koen|lab: it is shit but works |
| 14:46.48 | koen|lab | my pvr150 doesn't work to well in 2.6.20 |
| 14:47.04 | koen|lab | it claims that it can't change channels, which it can do |
| 14:47.11 | koen|lab | but mythtv trusts the error code.... |
| 14:55.24 | hrw | cu |
| 14:58.01 | koen|lab | there |
| 14:58.12 | koen|lab | time to drink beer |
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| 15:39.06 | robtaylor | hey, random question, has anyone got any suggestions for a board with a dvb tuner and an ide interface? |
| 15:39.34 | robtaylor | (and video out, of course) |
| 15:40.37 | slapin_nb | robtaylor, why you need video out? |
| 15:41.32 | robtaylor | slapin_nb: cos i want to make a settopbox |
| 15:42.23 | slapin_nb | robtaylor, ah you need miniitx style then... |
| 15:42.48 | mono | kann mir jemand sagen wo ich nachlesen kann wie ich zusätzliche kernelmodule (pvrusb2) in mein image integrieren kann? |
| 15:43.16 | robtaylor | slapin_nb: yeah, or pc104 or somesuch |
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| 15:44.31 | slapin_nb | robtaylor, I tried once - they are too hot. I used good ole PC approach (custom case though). |
| 15:44.50 | robtaylor | yeah, i ideally want to steer clear of x86 |
| 15:45.08 | hvontres|poodle | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:45.18 | robtaylor | it doesnt need a hd though, so that should cut the heat a lot |
| 15:45.20 | mono | well sorry - english :) -- does someone know where I can get informations for adding kernel modules to my image? |
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| 15:45.48 | mono | im using a dreambox |
| 15:46.05 | mono | and my toolchain runs on debian |
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| 15:47.29 | sirfred | Hello |
| 15:48.04 | XorA | yo sirfred |
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| 15:48.13 | hvontres|poodle | mono: hmm, not too familiar with that one. You might want to take a look at the linux-rp .bb's in the .dev branch. They are set up to generate seperate .ipk's for each module |
| 15:48.20 | sirfred | Hey XorA |
| 15:48.39 | sirfred | XorA: A question vaguely related with idct, mplayer,... |
| 15:48.54 | sirfred | XorA: :) |
| 15:49.13 | sirfred | XorA: Do you know if there's any support for DSP instructions in ffmpeg, gcc ? |
| 15:49.38 | mono | ok - thanks hvontres|poodle :) |
| 15:49.46 | XorA | sirfred: gcc no idea, ffmpeg, I think thats being worked on in SVN |
| 15:49.50 | sirfred | XorA: I don't mean iwmmx, but the dsp instructions in pxa25x for the 40 bits acumulator. |
| 15:50.12 | XorA | sirfred: oh then not a clue |
| 15:50.19 | sirfred | I've googling for a while, but have found hardly nothing |
| 15:50.55 | sirfred | XorA: Yes, I've seen some things about iwmmx, but my husky hides a pxa255 |
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| 15:51.32 | sirfred | XorA: ok. Thanks. |
| 15:52.09 | XorA | that sounds like freaky ARM asm stuff, that I dont get chance to get down to that level |
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| 15:52.35 | sirfred | XorA: Well, I wondered if gcc could have some support to use it automatically |
| 15:53.23 | sirfred | XorA: jeje |
| 15:56.54 | XorA | time for train |
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| 16:29.34 | hrw | mono: each kernel build in OE split kernel modules into separate packages. |
| 16:30.04 | hrw | mono: so check dreambox feeds (or tmp/deploy/*ipk*/ after your build of kernel) for kernel-module-* packages |
| 16:33.33 | mono | thx hrw!!!! |
| 16:33.53 | hrw | np |
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| 16:43.39 | hrw | how many of OE distros use l-l-h < 2.6.18? |
| 16:46.13 | mwester | l-l-h ? |
| 16:46.52 | hrw | linux-libc-headers |
| 16:47.24 | mwester | Ah, thx. Unslung does, but I don't think anyone but I cares about Unslung anymore. |
| 16:48.33 | pH5 | PREFERRED_VERSION_linux-libc-headers ?= "2.6.15.99" |
| 16:48.55 | pH5 | that's from angstrom-2007.1.conf |
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| 16:55.03 | mwester | Unslung: PREFERRED_VERSION_linux-libc-headers ?= "2.6.11.1" |
| 16:55.29 | mwester | (Newer than that broke things) |
| 16:55.58 | mwester | Which might have something to do with the fact that Unslung uses a Linux 2.4.22 kernel (!) |
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| 17:03.28 | hrw | -lgcc_eh again.. |
| 17:07.06 | CIA-11 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rb02c390e... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): linux-handhelds-2.6: Add 2.6.20-hh6, drop 2.6.20-hh3. |
| 17:07.12 | CIA-11 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r2dedd269... 10/ (1 MAINTAINERS): |
| 17:07.13 | CIA-11 | MAINTAINERS: Looking after linux-handhelds-2.6 for more than half-year now, |
| 17:07.13 | CIA-11 | add to maintained recipes. |
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| 17:14.20 | psokolovsky | pH5: what's this: |
| 17:14.20 | psokolovsky | -PREFERRED_VERSION_linux-handhelds-2.6 ?= "2.6.16-hh9" |
| 17:14.20 | psokolovsky | +#PREFERRED_VERSION_linux-handhelds-2.6 ?= "2.6.16-hh9" |
| 17:14.37 | koen | It's a called a 'comment' |
| 17:14.51 | koen | something that is usually a sign of not being used to a SCM ;) |
| 17:17.33 | psokolovsky | koen: well, for some reason default kernel version was killed. I assume that's stray change and going to undo it. |
| 17:22.53 | CIA-11 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * re48d2599... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 17:22.53 | CIA-11 | linux-handhelds-2.6: Update defconfigs for h3900 & h4000. |
| 17:22.53 | CIA-11 | * Defconfigman-generated static configs from HH.org CVS. |
| 17:22.57 | CIA-11 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r0199eb16... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf): |
| 17:22.57 | CIA-11 | angstrom-2007.1.conf: Bump h3900, h4000, hx4700, magician kernel version to 2.6.20-hh6. |
| 17:22.57 | CIA-11 | * Fixes "TS driver spams syslog" issue. |
| 17:22.58 | CIA-11 | * Approved by Koen Kooi. |
| 17:23.01 | CIA-11 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r16807008... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf): |
| 17:23.02 | CIA-11 | angstrom-2007.1.conf: Put back default linux-handhelds-2.6 kernel version to use. |
| 17:23.04 | CIA-11 | * It's a question if it should be still 2.6.16-hh9, but there should be default |
| 17:23.06 | CIA-11 | version for sure. |
| 17:31.14 | ljp | XorA: pong |
| 17:31.49 | hrw | 2cu |
| 17:31.51 | hrw | cu |
| 17:31.58 | chouimat | hi ljp |
| 17:32.13 | ljp | hi |
| 17:38.11 | CIA-11 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r3d375d6f... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-handhelds-2.6_2.6.20-hh6.bb): (log message trimmed) |
| 17:38.11 | CIA-11 | linux-handhelds-2.6 2.6.20-hh6: Fake commit to add proper changelog for -hh6. |
| 17:38.11 | CIA-11 | * Changes since -hh5: |
| 17:38.11 | CIA-11 | 1. First set of defconfigman-generated configs was committed, for h3900, |
| 17:38.11 | CIA-11 | h4000, hx4700. These go to *_static_defconfig namespace. Together with them, |
| 17:38.13 | CIA-11 | reference bootlogs were imported, to fight regression stream. |
| 17:38.17 | CIA-11 | 2. htchimalaya, htcblueangel, htcalpine: Revamps for the current kernel. |
| 17:41.36 | koen | bleh |
| 17:41.45 | koen | I'm re-learning gcc's buildsystem all over again |
| 17:41.55 | koen | it hasn't improved in the last 6 years |
| 17:45.28 | chouimat | koen why change something that "work" |
| 17:45.38 | koen | heh |
| 17:45.47 | koen | may break down and cry now? |
| 17:46.11 | chouimat | koen or they are like 99.5% of developers they don't understand autocrap and don't want to play with it ;) |
| 17:46.43 | koen | chouimat: I was amazed how well designed the llvm buildsystem is |
| 17:46.56 | chouimat | koen :) |
| 17:46.57 | koen | sadly llvm-gcc4 uses the gcc buildsystem |
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| 17:48.13 | koen | I can suggest a solution |
| 17:48.33 | koen | pay me to go to the indt lab to work with their llvm guru :) |
| 17:48.40 | chouimat | koen I'm currently trying to make an update of a product here ... the buildsystem is an ugly mix of make shell script, perl and autotools ... and I'm not paid enough to want to rewrite it ... |
| 17:51.48 | chouimat | koen and I will stop using this thing soon so ... (last contractual think to do and I won't renew) |
| 17:53.17 | koen | heh |
| 17:54.29 | chouimat | koen the product is somewhat good ... but the owner of the code is an ass and won't let me fix the problems in it because he want to ditch it :) |
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| 17:59.19 | CosmicPenguin | Wow - thats a ginormous bribe |
| 17:59.39 | joshin | :) |
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| 18:01.15 | mrdata | hi all |
| 18:01.17 | joshin | I almost have everything working on my PP3 in 2.6.20. The last thing is the camera which requires V4L... Then I can ditch the Fedora 4 based OS they use and go with something else. |
| 18:01.22 | CosmicPenguin | joshin: basically, its going to be a while |
| 18:01.23 | mrdata | mr_nice: hi |
| 18:01.29 | joshin | I figured. :) |
| 18:01.58 | joshin | I was just amused when I realized that you were in #oe... |
| 18:02.05 | CosmicPenguin | we're slowly making our way down the list, X is in testing, the framebuffer will be hitting today or tommorrow |
| 18:02.30 | CosmicPenguin | then its a tie over which bear we'll try to wrestle first - V4L or UDC |
| 18:02.40 | joshin | Yeah, I've been using an older build of the amd driver that seemed stable. |
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| 18:03.42 | CosmicPenguin | I'm the only guy we've got, and I'm typing as fast as I can |
| 18:03.52 | CosmicPenguin | But I do take time out for lunch breaks... like now |
| 18:03.52 | CosmicPenguin | bbl |
| 18:04.00 | joshin | Have a good one. |
| 18:06.20 | mr_nice | mrdata: hi |
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| 18:24.28 | sirfred | Hello |
| 18:24.53 | koen | hey sirfred |
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| 18:25.07 | sirfred | koen: Hey, I've got the hx4700 |
| 18:25.19 | koen | ah, cool |
| 18:25.51 | sirfred | koen: Not that cool. |
| 18:26.28 | sirfred | koen: cursor issue is easy to fix, but kernel framebuffer driver seems to not handle properly mode changes. |
| 18:26.42 | sirfred | koen: Trying to set it to 640x480 using framebuffer doesn't work well. |
| 18:27.45 | sirfred | Cursor issue seems easy to fix, it seems that w3220 cursor is 32x32 instead of 16x16 |
| 18:31.22 | Bernardo | hi |
| 18:32.36 | koen | sirfred: so "don't rotate" and "make cursor bigger" would get w3220 working X? |
| 18:33.10 | sirfred | koen: I don't thing "don't rotate" could be an option, considering that Xfbdev is able to handle rotation. |
| 18:33.19 | hvontres|poodle | sirfred: did you get the links I e-mailed you? |
| 18:33.36 | sirfred | hvontres|poodle: I think I didn't |
| 18:33.58 | Bernardo | psokolovsky: I've been unable to build working opie images in dev/angstrom, I always get a kernel panic (can't find init). I'm going to try to build a x11 image for my akita now, to see if I'm at least one of those will boot. |
| 18:34.16 | sirfred | hvontres|poodle: What were the links about? |
| 18:34.37 | sirfred | koen: I'm going to try to correct the issues these days. |
| 18:35.01 | sirfred | koen: Cursor problem can be corrected, I think, just being aware of the different size. |
| 18:35.21 | hvontres|poodle | sirfred: just some stuff from the intel site about using the DSP instructions on pxa25x |
| 18:35.33 | sirfred | hvontres|poodle: Humm, no. |
| 18:36.32 | hvontres|poodle | sirfred: here is the first one: http://isnwiki.jot.com/WikiHome/Articles/168863 |
| 18:36.41 | hvontres|poodle | sirfred: and the second one is for the pxa assembler manual: http://www.intel.com/software/products/compilers/embedded/toolsuite/docs/asxscale.pdf |
| 18:36.57 | sirfred | hvontres|poodle: Thanks. |
| 18:37.15 | sirfred | hvontres|poodle: It seems it have to be done using assembler, no gcc automatic usage of that features. |
| 18:37.23 | hvontres|poodle | sirfred: np. you had just left when I found them |
| 18:37.38 | hvontres|poodle | sirfred: unless you want to try to add it :) |
| 18:37.47 | sirfred | hvontres|poodle: I don't know if the idct transformations could benefit of that 40 bit register |
| 18:38.05 | sirfred | hvontres|poodle: Perhaps the improvement doesn't pay the effort. |
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| 18:39.12 | hvontres|poodle | sirfred: i would hazard a guess that IPP use some of those instructions... |
| 18:39.28 | sirfred | hvontres|poodle: It should. Can IPP be used with gcc ? |
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| 18:40.37 | hvontres|poodle | sirfred: only 3.3.2 on 2.4 kernels I think...:( |
| 18:40.56 | psokolovsky | Bernardo: well, opie has little to do with init booting. kernel boots init, and that's where to start looking. |
| 18:41.31 | CIA-11 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r7d7fa329... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-handhelds-2.6/h5000): |
| 18:41.31 | CIA-11 | linux-handhelds-2.6: Add defconfig for h5000. |
| 18:41.31 | CIA-11 | * Defconfigman-generated, from kernel CVS. |
| 18:41.38 | CIA-11 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rea691c5d... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf): |
| 18:41.38 | CIA-11 | angstrom-2007.1.conf: Bump h5000 kernel version to 2.6.20-hh6. |
| 18:41.38 | CIA-11 | * Approved by Koen Kooi |
| 18:41.42 | hvontres|poodle | Bernardo: you might want to try a console image first... less stuff to go wrong :) |
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| 18:42.09 | hvontres|poodle | Bernardo: plus it builds faster :) |
| 18:44.11 | koen | sirfred: try asking ssvb about MUL and DIV |
| 18:45.16 | sirfred | koen: Aren't those regular arm instructions ? |
| 18:45.52 | hvontres|poodle | sirfred: you might also want to look at this doc: http://cache-www.intel.com/cd/00/00/09/55/95527_95527.pdf |
| 18:45.58 | koen | iirc they are the 'e' in armv5te |
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| 18:46.11 | koen | but I don't know very much about ARM isns |
| 18:46.17 | koen | "The thread starts with "[PATCH 0/90] Post 2.6.21 OMAP update" |
| 18:46.38 | koen | seems tony has been busy :) |
| 18:46.56 | sirfred | hvontres|poodle: thanks |
| 18:47.08 | sirfred | hvontres|poodle: Now, I only need time. ;-) |
| 18:47.27 | hvontres|poodle | sirfred: hehe...seems to be a common thread around here .. |
| 18:47.49 | sirfred | So, I only need to develop a time machine, and then, go back everytime I need. |
| 18:48.14 | koen | psokolovsky: how is pocketpc looking with the latest angstrom images? |
| 18:49.26 | psokolovsky | koen: err, I'd need yet to try latest ones ;-). but I tested that X11R7.2 runs and seems to work well. |
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| 18:50.03 | pH5 | psokolovsky: including keylaunch? I didn't get that to work yet. |
| 18:50.24 | nm | hi * |
| 18:50.31 | psokolovsky | pH5: nope, keylaunch didn't work, and I tested last time when even bl issues weer present |
| 18:50.51 | psokolovsky | I mean it did start and run ;-) |
| 18:50.52 | nm | i try to make rootfs for my device (AT91rm9200) w/ openembedded |
| 18:51.37 | CIA-11 | 03philippe 07org.oe.dev * rcd87faaf... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 18:51.37 | CIA-11 | packages/gtk-webcore/files/build_silence.patch |
| 18:51.37 | CIA-11 | * remove now obsolete build fix |
| 18:51.37 | CIA-11 | packages/gtk-webcore/osb-nrcit_svn.bb |
| 18:51.38 | CIA-11 | * updated svn recipe to add some more patches |
| 18:51.38 | CIA-11 | packages/gtk-webcore/files/NRCit_HTTP_auth.diff |
| 18:51.39 | nm | i boot from nfs but this kernel hang on "Freeing init memeory : 88K", it seem to be error when run init/sysvinti |
| 18:51.40 | CIA-11 | * new patch that fix HTTP AUTH issues |
| 18:52.19 | nm | can i have some suggestion ? |
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| 18:53.25 | Bernardo | hvontres|poodle: ok, it's a good idea |
| 18:53.38 | Bernardo | might be something in my build env that is borked |
| 18:53.53 | Bernardo | it wouldn't be the first time |
| 18:54.01 | Bernardo | (dash vs bash, etc.= |
| 18:54.03 | Bernardo | ) |
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| 18:55.18 | hvontres|poodle | sirfred: and,just to add some more confusion, here is some info from the evil empire: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa448595.aspx |
| 18:55.26 | sirfred | hvontres|poodle: The functions? |
| 18:55.55 | sirfred | hvontres|poodle: I found them this morning, it seems that the microsoft compiler have some builtin functions using the 40 bit acumulator |
| 18:56.02 | hvontres|poodle | sirfred: i think so. it's the documetaton for the funcitons in armintr.h |
| 18:56.42 | sirfred | hvontres|poodle: Yes, they are. |
| 19:01.28 | hvontres|poodle | sirfred: sirfred : according to this http://shareit.intel.com/WikiHome/Articles/168675 they are just intrinsic functions that map directly to the assembly because the MS compiler can't hadle inlines :) |
| 19:01.53 | sirfred | hvontres|poodle: Interesting.:) |
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| 19:03.49 | hvontres|poodle | sirfred: and the ms docs give you the arm assembly equivalents :) |
| 19:04.44 | hvontres|poodle | Bernardo: heh. Well, I use that trick because of my *slow* build machine :) |
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| 19:23.53 | vivi|note | hi koen, after an repository update the file started to broke: 16:10:26 (152.73 KB/s) - `/indt/mamona/openembedded/sources/file-4.20.tar.gz' saved [548393 NOTE: Task failed: Fetch failed: ftp://ftp.astron.com/pub/file/file-4.20.tar.gz |
| 19:23.57 | vivi|note | how can I fix it? |
| 19:27.42 | hvontres|poodle | sirfred: what, you mean you already *KNOW* how to copy/paste ;) |
| 19:28.30 | sirfred | hvontres|poodle: I would kill for that option. ;-) |
| 19:29.35 | pH5 | sirfred: install wm2005 if you're not afraid that the owner will hate you. |
| 19:29.52 | chouimat | sirfred: I love the skip tutorial on my palm :) |
| 19:30.01 | sirfred | pH5: He's a good friend. I don't want to touch his machine |
| 19:30.19 | sirfred | pH5: I want him to keep being a good friend. ;-) |
| 19:30.21 | pH5 | ah, then you'll have to suffer ;) |
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| 19:31.01 | likewise | Hello ppl! |
| 19:31.06 | sirfred | At least I've learn that w3220 doesn't like ENG_CNTL to be touched, at least in the way we used to touch it |
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| 19:36.09 | psokolovsky_ | pH5: can you give any hints what I can read to get into avahi coolness? |
| 19:37.19 | pH5 | documentation on http://www.avahi.org/ ? |
| 19:38.41 | psokolovsky_ | pH5: well, I want a dump howto, like "run avahi-daemon <foo> and now you magically can ping <bar>.local from anywhere on your network!" |
| 19:39.02 | psokolovsky_ | pH5: docs tell about boring things like some mDNS, and I need magic ;-) |
| 19:39.27 | koen | "install angstrom and you can ping <hostname>.local from your broadcast domain" |
| 19:39.29 | pH5 | psokolovsky_: well, that'd be installing avahi-daemon and libnss-mdns |
| 19:40.03 | pH5 | psokolovsky_: http://www.avahi.org/wiki/Avah4users#Documentation is for you |
| 19:40.04 | psokolovsky_ | koen: as hostname, machine conf name is used, right? |
| 19:40.12 | koen | yes |
| 19:40.34 | hvontres|poodle | psokolovsky_: unless you change it of course :) |
| 19:40.39 | psokolovsky_ | pH5: ok, thanks, will wade thru it ;-) |
| 19:40.46 | pH5 | koen: do we have the nss-mdns resolver in avahi by default? |
| 19:40.55 | psokolovsky_ | Id on't want to chaneg anything, i want magic! |
| 19:41.30 | koen | pH5: not sure, but it does seems to broadcast it |
| 19:42.19 | pH5 | koen: right, avahi-daemon does that. |
| 19:42.34 | pH5 | I just realized that I never tried to ping laptop.local from the pda :) |
| 19:43.47 | vivi|note | hi all, I'm having problems with new checksum scheme in base.bbclass, and I believe that there is a bug there... Then I'm trying to debug it adding some echo messages to figure out what is happening.... My doubt is: every time that I add a print statement in a bbclass file do I really need to reparse all files? and if it is not necessary is there an easy way to force bitbake avoid this parse? |
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| 19:45.04 | pH5 | vivi|note: just touch the bbclass with a time in the past. |
| 19:47.23 | vivi|note | thanks |
| 19:49.30 | florian | re |
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| 21:01.46 | CIA-11 | packages/gpe-filemanager/gpe-filemanager_svn.bb |
| 21:01.46 | CIA-11 | * add new build recipe for svn gpe-filemanager |
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| 21:11.36 | CIA-11 | * use correct default preference of -1 |
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| 21:15.35 | CIA-11 | packages/gpe-sketchbook/gpe-sketchbook_svn.bb |
| 21:15.35 | CIA-11 | * add new svn build recipe |
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| 21:15.35 | CIA-11 | * add build patch |
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| 21:22.17 | sirfred | night |
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| 21:24.42 | CIA-11 | packages/gpe-sketchbook/gpe-sketchbook_svn.bb |
| 21:24.42 | CIA-11 | * add PV to recognise it as an svn build |
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| 21:49.15 | florian | philippe: i need to do the same you do with gpe for gpephone tomorrow :) |
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| 21:59.06 | Kristoffer | Command to import private key? |
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| 22:03.11 | philippe | florian: hopefully you have less work... |
| 22:03.20 | philippe | well some of it has already been done now of course :-) |
| 22:04.03 | florian | philippe: i have, only a few thing need it now. the ptim stuff and gpe-phonepanel mostly. |
| 22:04.20 | florian | i wonder if i have the bb for the email client somewhere |
| 22:05.44 | philippe | florian: calendar, contacts and sketchbook are already done |
| 22:06.02 | florian | see above :-) |
| 22:06.32 | florian | btw. i have an almost working scratchbox sdk built with oe now |
| 22:06.46 | florian | only autotools i18n stuff fails somehow |
| 22:06.55 | philippe | florian: well I guessed ptim was a type for pim |
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| 22:07.22 | CIA-11 | packages/linux/linux-jlime-jornada6xx-2.6.21rc5: |
| 22:07.22 | CIA-11 | * Addition of new kernel for the hp6xx platform. |
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| 22:08.46 | florian | philippe: no, its an input framework |
| 22:08.56 | florian | xkbd+++++ |
| 22:08.58 | florian | ;) |
| 22:09.28 | philippe | florian: ok :-) |
| 22:14.04 | RP | florian: Regarding bug 2037, did you try inheriting debian.bbclass with bitbake 1.8? |
| 22:14.12 | RP | florian: Also, which DISTRO was it? |
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| 22:16.29 | florian | RP: yes, i built meta-sdk-sbox which inherts debian. |
| 22:16.55 | florian | RP: generic distro built for a generic x86 target. |
| 22:17.19 | RP | florian: A .bb file shouldn't inherit debian, ever - it should be a .conf setting or it doesn't work properly |
| 22:19.10 | RP | florian: Looking at the output from "bitbake meta-gpe -g", I can't see a problem in the depends :/ |
| 22:20.37 | florian | RP: hmm.. ok... but isn't a bad idea if we need to inherit debian in order to be able to build the sdk packages? |
| 22:20.49 | RP | florian: This is even without debian.bbclass |
| 22:20.58 | RP | florian: Did you have packaging enabled? |
| 22:21.41 | florian | RP: how would i deactivate it? i got packages at least |
| 22:22.12 | RP | florian: If you didn't inherit a packaging class it would deactivate certain code |
| 22:23.50 | RP | florian: Looking at the differences between meta-gpe and meta-sdk, it could be something to do with the lack of DEPENDS I guess |
| 22:23.52 | florian | RP: from generic.conf: "INHERIT += "package_ipk"" |
| 22:24.45 | florian | RP: well... that does not give clue about the fact that it works with 1.6.6 |
| 22:24.46 | RP | florian: If I drop the DEPENDS from meta-gpe, it all goes a bit wrong which hints at the problem I guess |
| 22:25.31 | florian | Shouldn't the RDEPENDS magic solve this? |
| 22:26.01 | RP | florian: Dependency handling was totally rewritten between 1.6 and 1.8, not least that 1.8 is task based rather than package based |
| 22:26.01 | RP | florian: Yes, it should. I'm just trying to pin down the problem |
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| 22:27.09 | florian | RP: I could try to add all the depends to the package and see if it works then. |
| 22:28.35 | RP | florian: Better still, I think a do_build[recrdeptask] = "do_build" will do it |
| 22:28.58 | RP | florian: I'll test this and I might add a meta.bbclass |
| 22:30.24 | florian | RP: ok cool |
| 22:30.33 | RP | florian: That looks like it should work to me - can you test and confirm? |
| 22:31.55 | florian | RP: i can just add this line to the bb? |
| 22:32.00 | RP | florian: yes |
| 22:32.22 | florian | ok, but i need to switch back back first.. one sec |
| 22:32.41 | RP | florian: bitbake 1.8 removed the BUILD_ALL_DEPS handling as it was flawed. Instead it requires that you specify which tasks depend on which exactly |
| 22:34.08 | RP | florian: In this case nothing says that it should run all dependencies, hence the problem. Other meta files have by chance worked since they had DEPENDS set |
| 22:34.28 | florian | RP: ah ok, i got the point |
| 22:35.28 | RP | For the sdk builds, you might need do_populate_sdk[recrdeptask] = "do_package_write" |
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| 22:36.08 | RP | florian: i.e. tell bitbake that it should run all the rdepends up to their package_write task before trying to populate the sdk |
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| 22:40.12 | CoreDump|home | RP: I'm having problems w/ kexec -e freezing the nslu2, is that supposed to even work on that machine? |
| 22:41.01 | RP | CoreDump|home: Does that work on the Z? If so, it should work on the nslu2 |
| 22:41.23 | CoreDump|home | hmm good question |
| 22:44.02 | florian | RP: Do you see any differences between 1.6.6 and 1.8.0 that might influence environment variable handling? I just noticed minimo does not build with 1.8 |
| 22:44.38 | florian | For some reason it builds and runs binaries that should not be called while crosscompiling. |
| 22:44.39 | RP | florian: In theory no... |
| 22:45.48 | florian | I need to take a more close look, but with a really similar setup (but one machine with the new bitbake) it failed one the one and built pretty well on the other. |
| 22:46.43 | RP | florian: That is rather worrying and I'd appreciate it if you could try and find out why... |
| 22:47.19 | hvontres|poodle | CoreDump|home: yes. kexec -e works just fine on my poodle :) |
| 22:47.39 | CoreDump|home | hvontres|poodle: thanks |
| 22:48.04 | CoreDump|home | it's just hanging the nslu2 here |
| 22:48.58 | hvontres|poodle | CoreDump|home: Which kernel version are you using? I use 2.6.17 for my inital boot. so far I have not had much luck with 2.6.20 |
| 22:49.33 | CoreDump|home | 2.6.20 is installed and I try to kexec an identical kerneöl |
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| 22:50.32 | florian | RP: I get a nice effect now: if i want to clean a package it seems to try to build the dependencies |
| 22:51.16 | RP | florian: Not good :/ |
| 22:51.22 | hvontres|poodle | CoreDump|home: did you rebuild kexec-tools? IIRC, the kecex syscall changed when kexec-arm went into mainline |
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| 22:51.30 | RP | florian: With 1.6 or 1.8? |
| 22:51.48 | florian | RP: with 1.8 |
| 22:52.28 | CoreDump|home | hvontres|poodle: Hmmm right, I'll rebuild and retry |
| 22:52.55 | hvontres|poodle | CoreDump|home: good luck. Time for me to go home :) |
| 22:53.06 | CoreDump|home | hvontres|poodle: ;) cya |
| 22:53.19 | florian | RP: but i can confirm that it builds the dependencies now |
| 22:54.06 | RP | florian: Heading the right way. That clean behaviour puzzles me though. What was the exact command? |
| 22:55.20 | CoreDump|home | root@mhnas01:~$ kexec -e |
| 22:55.20 | CoreDump|home | Starting new kernel |
| 22:55.21 | CoreDump|home | Bye! |
| 22:55.32 | CoreDump|home | it just hangs there |
| 22:55.43 | florian | RP: bitbake meta-sdk-sbox -c clean |
| 22:55.48 | RP | CoreDump|home: Can the nslu2 reboot properly? |
| 22:56.05 | florian | hah |
| 22:56.05 | CoreDump|home | RP: yes, no problems there otherwise |
| 22:56.15 | florian | ~lart mozilla build system |
| 22:56.15 | ibot | hurls dozens of incontinent, insomniac, hungry kittens with tiny little razor-sharp claws and a wide variety of contagious intestinal parasites at mozilla build system |
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| 22:56.33 | CoreDump|home | jesus, what a lart |
| 22:56.43 | florian | :-) |
| 22:56.55 | CoreDump|home | which sick person is inventing them?? =) |
| 22:56.59 | RP | florian: When I run that, I see "Running task 1 of 1" |
| 22:57.45 | florian | RP: with do_populate_sdk[recrdeptask] = "do_package_write" or without? and do you maybe just have all dependencies packaged already? |
| 22:57.57 | florian | CoreDump|home: i wondered the same multiple times :-) |
| 22:58.29 | florian | RP: minimo builds some stuff with the host compiler and links it against staging libraries |
| 22:58.54 | florian | staging for the target to be more precise |
| 22:59.31 | RP | florian: I don't have half the dependencies built and I have that line of metadata added |
| 23:00.28 | RP | florian: I'd guess some package is installed which is confusing it which isn't present on the other system |
| 23:00.41 | florian | RP: hmm... maybe |
| 23:01.13 | florian | RP: where exactly did you add the line? even if it is quite unlikely to be important |
| 23:01.40 | RP | florian: At the end of the file. I'll commit my changes and you can see if you still see the same thing |
| 23:02.35 | florian | RP: ok |
| 23:03.01 | florian | i need more fast machines |
| 23:04.19 | florian | I wonder about the possible reactions of my wife if i bought this: http://shop.itsco.de/shop/default.aspx?TY=item&ST=1&IT=681&CT=40 |
| 23:06.22 | florian | I guess the major problem would be the neighbours... |
| 23:07.04 | RP | I have a Dell dual Xeon and its very very loud :/ |
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| 23:09.04 | florian | RP: We have one of these at kc, but still empty. It is in a separate room at the ground floor... it still sounds like the sea in the first floor :) |
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| 23:16.21 | florian | RP: hmm... i just tried on a single machine. its not bitbake that causes the minimo build failure. |
| 23:16.46 | RP | florian: To me, thats a relief although it might not be for you ;-) |
| 23:16.58 | RP | florian: I committed the changes as you'll note |
| 23:17.58 | florian | right, i'm pulleing them right now to my local machine here... i can use that for testing as well. |
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| 23:19.26 | florian | RP: in the local.conf where it builds i do not have fail-fast and use icecc |
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| 23:48.18 | RP | 'night all |
| 23:49.03 | CoreDump|home | n8 RP |