| 00:09.00 | ljp | kergoth: mv, hey. good luck. |
| 00:09.21 | bipolar | Just an FYI about the flamefest. The Opie trademark thing it going to be worked out. I can't discuss details right now though... next week. |
| 00:09.45 | bipolar | kergoth: Long time no chat! I see your name in WoW addons now! :D |
| 00:10.18 | CoreDump|home | people still play wow? |
| 00:10.28 | koen | bipolar: "worked out" as in you get a few $$$$ and hh.org the trademark? |
| 00:10.28 | bipolar | haha |
| 00:10.29 | ljp | kergoth: if you need another reference, I will give one. mv is a partner of TT |
| 00:10.42 | bipolar | koen: no. thats not it at all. |
| 00:10.54 | bipolar | koen: next week :) |
| 00:11.06 | ljp | opieII owes bipolar $$$$ for useage :) |
| 00:11.13 | bipolar | hmmm... maybe..... |
| 00:11.14 | CoreDump|home | =D |
| 00:11.16 | koen | I hope it ends with george getting sued into bankrupcy |
| 00:11.22 | Crofton | kergoth, good luck with MV |
| 00:11.29 | CoreDump|home | koen: one can only hope... |
| 00:12.01 | Crofton | the GD guys I knonw are real nice, but large corporations are no fun |
| 00:13.49 | CoreDump|home | bipolar: better do so, this channels is logged for everyone to see |
| 00:14.11 | CoreDump|home | even the folks on the ban list ;) |
| 00:14.56 | bipolar | haha |
| 00:16.26 | bipolar | CoreDump|home: Us old folks waited for all the punks to get bored with it so we could enjoy playing with being invited to a duel or to join a stupid guild every 15sec... :D |
| 00:16.56 | CoreDump|home | =) |
| 00:17.26 | Futaris | Has anyone tested angstrom-2007.1-oabi distro lately? I can't seem to build an image. |
| 00:23.04 | Futaris | NB, what version of bitbake should I be running? I seem to have problems with the latest one from 1.8.x branch, 1.8.3? |
| 00:23.12 | CIA-4 | 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r4c8cdb95... 10/ (17 files in 5 dirs): |
| 00:23.12 | CIA-4 | clamav: Add 0.90.3, remove 0.88.7. |
| 00:23.12 | CIA-4 | From the release announcement: "This release fixes some security bugs |
| 00:23.12 | CIA-4 | in libclamav and improves stability under Solaris. Please see |
| 00:23.13 | CIA-4 | ChangeLog for complete list of changes." |
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| 01:02.29 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 1155 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by lenehan@twibble.org |
| 01:02.31 | cdbot2 | * * dosfstools-native fails to build on 64bit [...] |
| 01:02.33 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1155 |
| 01:04.28 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 1484 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by lenehan@twibble.org |
| 01:04.30 | cdbot2 | * * busybox "sh" is inadequate to run "ldd" [...] |
| 01:04.33 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1484 |
| 01:06.48 | kergoth | CoreDump|afk, i find coding wow ui modifications more enjoyable than playing, but still play occasionally |
| 01:08.44 | Crofton | kergoth, what would you be doing for MV? |
| 01:09.09 | Crofton | fixing their davinci code to compile with gcc-4.1 ? |
| 01:09.11 | Crofton | :) |
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| 05:39.09 | steliosk | good morning |
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| 07:09.29 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2301 has been RESOLVED (WORKSFORME) by jbs@bandos.homelinux.com |
| 07:09.31 | cdbot2 | * * bad RPATH - imlib2-loaders (imlib2-x11) [...] |
| 07:09.33 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2301 |
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| 07:26.02 | Marex | hi polyonymous_ ... seems like isp crisis is over ;) |
| 07:26.10 | Marex | hi all ;) |
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| 07:56.42 | likewise | good morning |
| 07:58.50 | koen | good morning all |
| 07:59.13 | Marex | hello mighty koen |
| 07:59.40 | Marex | btw j/w anyone is going to put "qtopia free" into OE any soon? |
| 07:59.40 | XorA | morning |
| 07:59.44 | Marex | hi XorA |
| 07:59.54 | XorA | Marex: is it not there? |
| 08:00.12 | Marex | XorA, there is just qt/c iirc |
| 08:00.18 | XorA | packages/qte/gtopia-core |
| 08:00.34 | Marex | yup ... thats not what I mean ;) |
| 08:00.42 | Marex | XorA, http://trolltech.com/products/qtopia/downloads check this |
| 08:02.40 | likewise | Marex: which one *specifically*? |
| 08:03.22 | Marex | darn ... I lost that link ... just a sec |
| 08:03.34 | Marex | this http://trolltech.com/developer/downloads/qtopia/qtopia-source-gpl |
| 08:04.50 | zecke | Marex: what stops me from doing this is the Qtopia buildsystem is too ugly |
| 08:05.51 | Marex | zecke, there surely are much more uglier things ... like palmtc pcmcia :-/ |
| 08:06.29 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 1821 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by koen@dominion.kabel.utwente.nl |
| 08:06.31 | cdbot2 | * * Binary locale generation uses the files in [...] |
| 08:06.31 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r5b2b2941... 10/ (1 packages/glibc/glibc-package.bbclass): glibc-package.bbclass: replace os.path.join with base_path_join to make OE use the locales from WORKDIR instead of /usr, closes #1821 |
| 08:06.33 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1821 |
| 08:07.17 | koen | my first contribution to this months bugdays :) |
| 08:07.29 | zecke | Marex: well, the source distribution contains Qtopia Core and Qtopia |
| 08:08.35 | zecke | Marex: and I don't want to rebuild 70MB of sources just to patch a security issue in a library. |
| 08:08.57 | Laibsch | Oh, bugdays again? |
| 08:09.08 | Marex | zecke, actually 100 (compressed) ;) |
| 08:09.08 | Laibsch | Let's see what the count is going in. |
| 08:09.34 | Marex | zecke, but ok ... Ill try integrating it into my OE installation as soon as I have some time to play |
| 08:09.54 | Marex | I just want to see it (qtopia4 may look nice :) ) |
| 08:10.12 | zecke | Marex: well, and I have offered lorn to assist him adding it to OE, sadly he has not made his mind up yet |
| 08:10.29 | Laibsch | Are we going to see Qt4 in OE soon? |
| 08:10.48 | zecke | Laibsch: uicmoc, qmake is in OE |
| 08:10.53 | XorA | Laibsch: its already there |
| 08:10.59 | Marex | Laibsch, dunno ... but my tasklist will blow soon :) |
| 08:11.02 | ljp | zecke: I just have to free up some time... |
| 08:11.07 | XorA | qt4-x11-free_4.2.3.bb |
| 08:11.13 | XorA | qt4-x11-free_4.1.2.bb |
| 08:11.24 | Marex | qt4-x11-free_4.1.1.bb |
| 08:11.25 | XorA | the first one is my attempt at qt, I failed :-( |
| 08:12.00 | zecke | Laibsch: and we have an old version of QtopiaCore as well |
| 08:12.36 | koen | Laibsch: http://www.openembedded.org/ical/oe-events.ics |
| 08:13.04 | koen | qt 4.3.0 is out as well |
| 08:14.42 | zecke | ~fishslap kubuntu's packaging |
| 08:14.56 | ibot | ACTION slaps kubuntu's packaging up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 08:15.41 | XorA | zecke: make qt 4.3.X work so Angstrom can have kde :-) |
| 08:19.52 | koen | NOTE: collecting binary locales from locale tree |
| 08:19.55 | koen | *fninally* |
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| 08:25.22 | onion__ | ... |
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| 08:42.29 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2405 has been created by skliarieh@gmail.com |
| 08:42.31 | cdbot2 | * * TouchScreen support |
| 08:42.33 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2405 |
| 08:46.08 | hrw | morning |
| 08:46.28 | hrw | ~lart that reporter |
| 08:46.28 | ibot | cats /dev/urandom into that reporter's ear |
| 08:46.57 | XorA | hey hrw |
| 08:47.43 | hrw | so who will add qt 4.3.0? |
| 08:47.56 | XorA | hrw: someone cleverer than me |
| 08:48.19 | likewise | that resolves to noone. |
| 08:48.39 | hrw | XorA: poppler 0.5.9 has speedups |
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| 08:51.00 | XorA | likewise: all hope is lost then, as Im a retard :-) |
| 08:52.39 | S_A | Hi! can anyone of you guru tell me about file system partitoning in an embedded Linux syastem (flash) |
| 08:52.51 | S_A | any links or pointer to right direction will do |
| 08:52.51 | S_A | I need few partitions in my flash e.g. read only firmware storage, a rw area etc |
| 08:53.22 | hrw | S_A: I would like to read about it too. I think that linux-mtd is good start |
| 08:53.24 | likewise | We can start an OpenEmbedded Clinic |
| 08:54.47 | zecke | steliosk: do you need a hand on sepukku.bbclass? |
| 08:55.01 | likewise | bbiab |
| 08:55.46 | steliosk | zecke : did not touch it yet :( We are swamped with 2 projects (which as usuall) are running behind schedule |
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| 09:01.05 | steliosk | btw anyone got an idea shy and when binary locales generated by glibc will be need it to be used ? |
| 09:01.48 | steliosk | in short does it make sense to generate them or is it a wast of time ? |
| 09:02.08 | koen | "An fellow at webwide@rpsys.net have fairly recent (from 2007-05-16) patch from USB: http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/patches |
| 09:02.09 | koen | Trying to contact him..." |
| 09:02.14 | koen | this is getting hilarious |
| 09:08.38 | XorA | hrw: poppler 5.9 doesnt compile |
| 09:09.12 | hrw | ah |
| 09:09.37 | zecke | koen: where is that from? |
| 09:09.51 | XorA | hrw: badly written C++ it looks like |
| 09:10.31 | koen | zecke: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2171 |
| 09:10.32 | Laibsch | zecke: I am guessing from 2405 |
| 09:10.42 | Laibsch | ah, dang |
| 09:10.44 | Laibsch | missed it |
| 09:11.04 | onion__ | ah |
| 09:11.49 | onion__ | hrw !!!! i aleady viewed your nickname..@.@ |
| 09:13.36 | Laibsch | Ok, bug count going into the weekend is 82! Let's make that at least triple digit by Sunday! |
| 09:14.44 | koen | Laibsch: feel free to announce the bugdays on the mailinglist :) |
| 09:16.58 | zecke | koen: are you going to answer Rodrigo Vivi? |
| 09:17.18 | koen | what did vivijim ask? |
| 09:17.40 | zecke | koen: "strange error: missing depends..." was the subject of the mail |
| 09:18.06 | onion__ | Laibsch.. other channel msg from me?..@.@; |
| 09:18.25 | onion__ | ...(.......stupid english..-.-) |
| 09:18.26 | koen | zecke: right I see it |
| 09:18.35 | zecke | koen: any idea what to answer? |
| 09:18.41 | koen | zecke: I classified that as a bitbake bug and left that up to you and RP |
| 09:19.20 | koen | the task recipe looks OK to me |
| 09:19.51 | koen | RDEPENDS_task-mamona-all := "${PACKAGES}" looks a bit suspicious, though |
| 09:22.13 | steliosk | koen : btw not sure if you have seen my message on the irc on that _> FEED_ARCH ?= "${TARGET_ARCH}" evaluates to ${TARGET_ARCH} and not the actual target arch |
| 09:22.33 | CIA-4 | 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r901164f6... 10/ (1 packages/libhangul packages/libhangul/libhangul_0.0.4.bb): |
| 09:22.33 | CIA-4 | libhangul: initial release. untested. |
| 09:22.33 | CIA-4 | Thanks to onion and koen. |
| 09:22.33 | CIA-4 | Angstrom Korea go,go go! |
| 09:22.33 | CIA-4 | One more country one the road to world domination ;-) |
| 09:23.12 | zecke | Laibsch: which part of that Korea? |
| 09:23.23 | onion__ | okok gogo |
| 09:23.32 | onion__ | ah.................. underground news.... |
| 09:23.33 | onion__ | .. |
| 09:23.52 | onion__ | my friend... converted TCPMP to angstrom... |
| 09:23.54 | koen | steliosk: yes, haven't given mu thought to that yet |
| 09:24.02 | onion__ | (very good program..) |
| 09:24.16 | XorA | hrw: they forgot to define propper types for fixed-point |
| 09:28.01 | Laibsch | koen: Sorry, no time. And not much time to help with bugdays. |
| 09:28.30 | Laibsch | Shiny Mercedes is waiting for me this afternoon until Sunday noon (no, not for fun, for business) |
| 09:28.32 | XorA | onion__: please put tcpmp.bb into bugs.openembedded.org Im very interested |
| 09:28.49 | XorA | Laibsch: use it for fun in the evenings |
| 09:28.50 | hrw | Laibsch: woman or car? |
| 09:29.20 | Laibsch | XorA: Good idea. Assignment is only until Saturday at noon ;-) |
| 09:29.30 | Laibsch | hrw: Car |
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| 09:38.17 | XorA | hrw: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11110 |
| 09:39.20 | onion__ | XorA, now tcptmp port version now alpha version..^.^; |
| 09:44.55 | onion__ | ....e.... |
| 09:45.05 | onion__ | Laibsch, ...angstrom not have fc-cache? |
| 09:45.22 | XorA | its in fontconfig-utils |
| 09:46.08 | onion__ | thank you |
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| 09:49.18 | Laibsch | ibot: mtndiff is The best way to get files added into OpenEmbedded is to "find packages/$projectdir -exec mtn add {} ;\ ; mtn diff packages/$projectdir > /tmp/mtndiff.patch" from within your OR directory. Please attach go to http://bugs.openembedded.org then, open a new ticket and attach /tmp/mtndiff.patch to it. |
| 09:49.32 | ibot | Laibsch: okay |
| 09:49.38 | Laibsch | @all Feel free to improve the wording. |
| 09:49.46 | Laibsch | The oneliner is untested but I guess it should work |
| 09:49.49 | Laibsch | !mtndiff |
| 09:50.00 | Laibsch | ~mtndiff |
| 09:50.20 | ibot | rumour has it, mtndiff is The best way to get files added into OpenEmbedded is to "find packages/$projectdir -exec mtn add {} ;\ ; mtn diff packages/$projectdir > /tmp/mtndiff.patch" from within your OR directory. Please attach go to http://bugs.openembedded.org then, open a new ticket and attach /tmp/mtndiff.patch to it. |
| 09:50.20 | CM | ibot is lightning quick ;) |
| 09:51.18 | Laibsch | ibot: mtndiff is The best way to get files added into OpenEmbedded is to run "find packages/$projectdir -exec mtn add {} ;\ ; mtn diff packages/$projectdir > /tmp/mtndiff.patch" from within your OR directory. After that please go to http://bugs.openembedded.org, open a new ticket and attach /tmp/mtndiff.patch to it. |
| 09:51.27 | ibot | ...but mtndiff is already something else... |
| 09:51.36 | Laibsch | ibot: forget mtndiff |
| 09:51.36 | ibot | i forgot mtndiff, Laibsch |
| 09:51.39 | hrw | ibot: no, mtndiff is the best way to get files added into OpenEmbedded is to "find packages/$projectdir -exec mtn add {} ;\ ; mtn diff packages/$projectdir > /tmp/mtndiff.patch" from within your OE directory. After that please go to http://bugs.openembedded.org then, open a new ticket and attach /tmp/mtndiff.patch to 3Dit. |
| 09:51.45 | ibot | hrw: okay |
| 09:51.45 | hrw | ibot: no, mtndiff is the best way to get files added into OpenEmbedded is to "find packages/$projectdir -exec mtn add {} ;\ ; mtn diff packages/$projectdir > /tmp/mtndiff.patch" from within your OE directory. After that please go to http://bugs.openembedded.org then, open a new ticket and attach /tmp/mtndiff.patch to it. |
| 09:51.47 | ibot | hrw: okay |
| 09:51.52 | hrw | thats proper |
| 09:52.26 | Laibsch | thanks, hrw |
| 09:52.35 | Laibsch | Was trying to achieve the same thing |
| 09:52.49 | hrw | I know |
| 09:53.24 | Laibsch | That should help |
| 09:53.36 | Laibsch | And probably better here than in the wiki, even |
| 09:58.30 | CIA-4 | 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r2139dbef... 10/ (1 packages/nabi packages/nabi/nabi_0.17.bb): |
| 09:58.30 | CIA-4 | nabi: initial commit. Untested. |
| 09:58.30 | CIA-4 | Thank you, onion. |
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| 10:01.14 | thesing | hi all |
| 10:02.25 | onion__ | CIA-4, package now testing...^.^ |
| 10:03.07 | zecke | Laibsch: did you add checksums to the checksums.ini? |
| 10:04.37 | Laibsch | zecke: no |
| 10:04.52 | Laibsch | And I made a small mistake in SRC_URI which I am going to correct now |
| 10:05.12 | Laibsch | zecke: I think that is something which should be done automatically. Not a monkey's job |
| 10:05.28 | Laibsch | zecke: Sort of like hrw's initial download |
| 10:05.42 | Laibsch | onion__: CIA-4 is a robot, not a human |
| 10:05.51 | hrw | ~cia |
| 10:06.05 | ibot | cia is, like, a CVS/Subversion commit notification bot run on #commits among other channels, originally by scanline, http://cia.navi.cx/, or the Central Intelligence Agency, but the bot is more important. ;) |
| 10:06.05 | zecke | Laibsch: well, security wise I don't trust monkeys |
| 10:06.15 | zecke | Laibsch: they are good on entertainment but not for security |
| 10:07.31 | Laibsch | zecke: Or write something like "bitbake -c commitmd5 $blah" to download and commit the md5 for me. I won't do anything else and I don't feel like this should be a manual job |
| 10:07.53 | koen | ibot: no, cia is a CVS/Subversion commit notification bot run on #commits among other channels, originally by scanline, http://cia.vc/, or the Central Intelligence Agency, but the bot is more important. ;) |
| 10:08.08 | ibot | koen: okay |
| 10:08.28 | onion__ | huk...... bot... thankyou..-.-; |
| 10:08.36 | zecke | Laibsch: well, by the very nature it has to be done manually. But we can consider a task |
| 10:09.32 | steliosk | heh task lazy-dev ;) |
| 10:09.59 | steliosk | md5 should be checked before commited or there is no sense in using them |
| 10:10.24 | zecke | can someone with a glibc build find iconv.m4 in the staging area? |
| 10:10.30 | Laibsch | steliosk: I am sure hrw did not check all md5 when initially committing. |
| 10:11.01 | Laibsch | steliosk: not all projects publish md5 |
| 10:11.16 | steliosk | Laibsch : Maybe, but in general blindly addind md5 defeats their purpose |
| 10:11.16 | Laibsch | and even for those that do. How do you know that they are not compromised |
| 10:11.17 | zecke | Laibsch: and not all projects publish signed md5 sums |
| 10:11.33 | koen | zecke: only on the native staging |
| 10:11.40 | zecke | koen: awesome :) |
| 10:11.41 | koen | koen@bitbake:/data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/staging$ find . -name iconv.m4 |
| 10:11.42 | koen | ./i686-linux/share/aclocal/iconv.m4 |
| 10:12.07 | steliosk | ~lart down-town meetings |
| 10:12.07 | ibot | accelerates a free AOL cd to 50,000 rpm and lets down-town meetings feel it |
| 10:12.24 | steliosk | later all |
| 10:15.05 | koen | the mmc scr diff on LAK is interesting |
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| 10:21.37 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2210 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by freyther@inf.fu-berlin.de |
| 10:21.39 | cdbot2 | * * QA issues in lftp (RPATH, etc) X-BeenThere: openembedded-issues@lists.openembedded.org |
| 10:21.41 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2210 |
| 10:32.31 | Laibsch | www.openembedded.org needs a beefier server or some tasks moved to other servers |
| 10:33.02 | Laibsch | or some limit on mtn (and its connections) which I assume is the problem |
| 10:33.25 | zecke | Laibsch: or use a mirror :) |
| 10:34.34 | Laibsch | zecke: As I said numerous times. *I* do use an mtn mirror |
| 10:34.42 | Laibsch | I am talking about www |
| 10:34.55 | onion__ | Laibsch, root@spitz:/usr/share/locale$ locale -a C |
| 10:34.55 | onion__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:34.55 | onion__ | ko_KR.euckr ...(end) |
| 10:34.57 | CIA-4 | 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r36f14d73... 10/ (1 packages/nabi/nabi_0.17.bb): nabi: Fix SRC_URI |
| 10:35.25 | onion__ | Laibsch, ko_KR.utf8 package.....may not supported..T.T |
| 10:35.50 | Laibsch | onion__: I am sorry, but I really cannot help you today. Even though 'd like to. |
| 10:36.05 | Laibsch | Please wait for Freak_NL to return |
| 10:36.13 | zecke | Laibsch: hehe |
| 10:36.40 | Laibsch | onion__: Open ticket in the bug tracker so that Freak_NL can take a look when he returns |
| 10:36.41 | onion__ | Laibsch, ah... im not help from you... already you think.....^.^ |
| 10:37.06 | onion__ | Laibsch, that's word.... trash talk...~.~ |
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| 10:42.24 | thesing | Laibsch: did you have any problems with the collie and the patch from 2323? |
| 10:42.55 | Laibsch | zecke: Couldn't monotone.openembedded.org use round-robin DNS? |
| 10:43.14 | Laibsch | thesing: Sorry, not compiled yet |
| 10:43.22 | Laibsch | The kernel is there. But not the image. |
| 10:43.32 | Laibsch | I don't think I'll get to it before Sunday |
| 10:44.16 | thesing | Ok. I will ask again on monday then ;) |
| 10:44.49 | Laibsch | Please do |
| 10:48.14 | onion__ | Laibsch, ...s.u.c.c.e.s.s.......LD |
| 10:48.16 | onion__ | :D |
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| 10:48.46 | hrw | XorA: http://youtube.com/watch?v=C-fAxN-dL_E |
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| 10:52.14 | XorA | hrw: :-D |
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| 10:53.37 | Laibsch | onion__: Nice!!! |
| 10:53.41 | Laibsch | Send pix! |
| 10:53.46 | onion__ | huk.... |
| 10:54.14 | onion__ | ...nabi is success... but.. xim program not accept XIM... |
| 10:54.18 | onion__ | (oh no) |
| 10:58.22 | CM | rwhitby: http://times.usefulinc.com/2007/05/31-nslu2 |
| 11:00.30 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2160 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by freyther@inf.fu-berlin.de |
| 11:00.32 | cdbot2 | * * RPATH issue in sword X-BeenThere: openembedded-issues@lists.openembedded.org |
| 11:00.34 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2160 |
| 11:05.29 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2208 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by freyther@inf.fu-berlin.de |
| 11:05.31 | cdbot2 | * * RPATH in madplay X-BeenThere: openembedded-issues@lists.openembedded.org |
| 11:05.33 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2208 |
| 11:06.07 | hrw | http://worsethanfailure.com/Articles/OneandaHalfTiered-Application-Design.aspx arghhh |
| 11:14.29 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2192 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by freyther@inf.fu-berlin.de |
| 11:14.31 | cdbot2 | * * bad RPATH in libmodplug X-BeenThere: openembedded-issues@lists.openembedded.org |
| 11:14.33 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2192 |
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| 11:27.17 | crink | hi |
| 11:27.29 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2147 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by freyther@inf.fu-berlin.de |
| 11:27.31 | cdbot2 | * * Insane RPATH in gnutls 1.6.2 |
| 11:27.33 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2147 |
| 11:29.18 | rwhitby | CM: thx |
| 11:29.27 | crink | hrw, Laibsch |
| 11:29.33 | hrw | hi crink |
| 11:29.36 | crink | hi |
| 11:29.51 | CM | rwhitby: Everyone wants a pet slug ;) |
| 11:31.32 | rwhitby | My 256MB fatslug has just been finished and is undergoing final testing before being shipped to me :-) |
| 11:31.32 | XorA | rwhitby: sweet |
| 11:31.32 | Laibsch | hey crink, what's up? |
| 11:32.12 | hrw | rwhitby: nice. how much for it? |
| 11:32.29 | crink | hrw, Laibsch: the matchbox hangul patch will be included in matchbox tarball(i wish), i mail to mallum, he didn't remembered, so i will send the patch again. |
| 11:32.38 | rwhitby | well, I got the software to work for the guy for his own fatslug, so he's doing mine for the price of the basic slug and shipping only. |
| 11:33.06 | hrw | rwhitby: ;) |
| 11:33.12 | rwhitby | it may well have 16MB flash too - haven't checked whether he decided to do that or not. |
| 11:33.17 | crink | /s/matchbox/matchbox-keyboard/ |
| 11:33.24 | rwhitby | he was professional SMT equipment at his workplace :-) |
| 11:33.28 | rwhitby | s/was/has/ |
| 11:33.37 | hrw | rwhitby: for me it can have even 2M - bootloader+kernel |
| 11:33.56 | CM | rwhitby: What are you planning to do with the fat one? :) |
| 11:34.21 | rwhitby | dunno yet. |
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| 11:35.07 | rwhitby | have a big ramdisk on it, and no external storage. completely silent and no writes to the flash. |
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| 11:37.29 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2187 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by freyther@inf.fu-berlin.de |
| 11:37.31 | cdbot2 | * * libusbpp contains bad RPATH |
| 11:37.33 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2187 |
| 11:38.24 | crink | hrw: i installed *.ipk into <temp_rootfs>, but when it boot, 't recognized ethernet driver. |
| 11:38.29 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2169 has been marked as DUPLICATE of bug 2147 by freyther@inf.fu-berlin.de |
| 11:38.31 | cdbot2 | * * Bad RPATHs in gnutls-xx 1.6.2-r0 |
| 11:38.33 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2169 |
| 11:38.35 | crink | /didn |
| 11:38.37 | crink | t |
| 11:39.19 | zecke | ~seen woglinde |
| 11:41.21 | ibot | woglinde <i=woglinde@e178095055.adsl.alicedsl.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #opensimpad.org, 1d 17h 14m 42s ago, saying: 'das fpga macht eigentlich auch richtig spass'. |
| 11:41.22 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 1296 has been RESOLVED (WONTFIX) by bugs.openembedded.org@rolf.leggewie.biz |
| 11:41.22 | cdbot2 | * * Touchscreen not working on Collie under 2.6 kernel. |
| 11:41.22 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1296 |
| 11:42.29 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 612 has been RESOLVED (WONTFIX) by bugs.openembedded.org@rolf.leggewie.biz |
| 11:42.31 | cdbot2 | * * hrw test images: gpe-contacts + libmimedir may be missing glibc-gconv for locales |
| 11:42.33 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=612 |
| 11:43.29 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 613 has been RESOLVED (WONTFIX) by bugs.openembedded.org@rolf.leggewie.biz |
| 11:43.31 | cdbot2 | * * hrw test images: GPE-image on akita : Minilite crashes : segmentation fault |
| 11:43.33 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=613 |
| 11:44.29 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 625 has been RESOLVED (WONTFIX) by bugs.openembedded.org@rolf.leggewie.biz |
| 11:44.31 | cdbot2 | * * mount issues using Hrw test images |
| 11:44.33 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=625 |
| 11:44.46 | Laibsch | crink: Maybe you want to talk to onion__. It seems the two of you are fellow country-men |
| 11:44.58 | onion__ | ? |
| 11:45.02 | onion__ | call me? |
| 11:46.03 | Laibsch | crink: Thanks to onion, we now have the first Korean input module in OE: http://blog.leggewie.org/?p=16 |
| 11:46.14 | Laibsch | onion__: It seems both you and crink are Korean |
| 11:46.25 | Laibsch | So you might be able to help each other |
| 11:46.31 | CoreDump|home | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/05/30/garmany_anti-hacking_law/ WHAT THE HELL? |
| 11:46.52 | XorA | anyone in .de better uninstall any operating systems they have installed |
| 11:46.57 | onion__ | Laibsch, ah.. thank you...~.~ |
| 11:47.24 | crink | Laibsch: scim, scim-hangul is better, trust me. |
| 11:48.12 | onion__ | scim so heavy.... and not naturally...... |
| 11:48.33 | onion__ | most korean use nabi.... i hope try it..T.T |
| 11:49.00 | hrw | CoreDump|home: so mickeyl is now double criminal.. he wrote wellenreiter |
| 11:49.31 | crink | onion__: not me, |
| 11:49.53 | XorA | guys, this is OE, there is space for both methods |
| 11:50.18 | Laibsch | crink: This is open source. Release early and release often. Improve what you have step by step. That is my philosophy. |
| 11:50.22 | XorA | and if there is an internal war of styles in Korea then angstrom-x11-nabi-image, angstrom-x11-scim-image can I assume be made |
| 11:50.40 | onion__ | crink, ?.. ah.. work it me.. now problem is.. most program not run with XIM |
| 11:51.08 | crink | Laibsch: OE and handhels enviroment(which use touch screen), nabi is hard to join, unless if you use keyboard. |
| 11:51.09 | onion__ | crink, nabi and imhangul already compile and packaged. |
| 11:51.26 | crink | onion__: 1 years ago, i tried it. |
| 11:51.38 | Laibsch | crink: As you were told. It is not either or. You can have both |
| 11:51.38 | onion__ | angstrom not supprot XIM? |
| 11:51.50 | Laibsch | crink: You only install what you like |
| 11:52.06 | crink | Laibsch: yes |
| 11:52.13 | Laibsch | onion__: I don't think anybody tried before you. |
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| 11:53.29 | onion__ | hm..... |
| 11:53.41 | crink | /s/handhels/handhelds/ |
| 11:54.17 | Jin^eLD | hi, has anyone worked with freescale mx31? I'd like to try Angstrom on it but I am not quite sure how :) what kind of image do I need to feed to the bootloader? |
| 11:54.31 | crink | /s/enviroment/environment/ |
| 11:54.43 | XorA | Jin^eLD: zImage |
| 11:54.50 | XorA | Jin^eLD: I have angstrom on mx31 here |
| 11:55.14 | Jin^eLD | XorA: so I tell the bootloader to load the zimage and then what? is there a way to pass parameters to the kernel? |
| 11:55.45 | XorA | load -r -b 0x100000 zImage |
| 11:55.45 | XorA | exec -b 0x100000 -l 0x200000 -c "noinitrd console=ttymxc0,115200 root=/dev/nfs ip=bootp" |
| 11:56.12 | Jin^eLD | XorA: that looks redbootish, right? |
| 11:56.20 | XorA | Jin^eLD: yup |
| 11:56.49 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r5ffe474e... 10/ (1 packages/gcc/gcc-cross-initial_4.1.2.bb): gcc-cross-initial: add 4.1.2 |
| 11:56.49 | Jin^eLD | hmm, I don't have redboot on there |
| 11:57.03 | XorA | Jin^eLD: its what freescale supplied with mine |
| 11:57.12 | XorA | Jin^eLD: does yours have eboot? |
| 11:57.18 | Jin^eLD | yes, I think so |
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| 11:57.53 | Jin^eLD | I'm familiar with redboot but could not quite figure out how to get Angstrom going from eboot |
| 11:58.24 | XorA | Jin^eLD: you need to get a WinCE using friend to reflash the board |
| 11:58.40 | Jin^eLD | ok, the board came with Win CE ;) and I guess such a friend is around |
| 11:58.44 | XorA | Jin^eLD: you can do it from JTAG yourself if you can find the instructions and have supported JTAG |
| 11:58.56 | Jin^eLD | ok.. so I need to flash it with rebood? |
| 11:58.58 | Jin^eLD | redboot that is |
| 11:59.00 | XorA | Jin^eLD: yes |
| 11:59.21 | CIA-4 | 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * r5fdb0dc4... 10/ (1 packages/lftp/lftp_3.5.1.bb): |
| 11:59.21 | CIA-4 | packages/lftp/lftp: Delete the custom iconv.m4 in favor of the staged one fixing the uclibc build |
| 11:59.22 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:59.23 | Jin^eLD | ok, I see.. I guess there will be one for this board on the freescale site? |
| 11:59.52 | XorA | Jin^eLD: it was missing when I last checked so I had to ask them directly |
| 12:00.04 | XorA | Jin^eLD: it should be on opensource.freescale.com |
| 12:00.12 | Jin^eLD | roger that, thanks a lot! |
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| 12:00.18 | Jin^eLD | I will give it a try now |
| 12:00.34 | XorA | there is even a kernel in OE for it |
| 12:00.41 | Jin^eLD | cool |
| 12:00.52 | Jin^eLD | well, koen pointed me to precompiled angstrom images |
| 12:00.53 | koen | MACHINE=mx31ads |
| 12:00.54 | XorA | shout at lrg if its busted :-D |
| 12:00.54 | Jin^eLD | so I will try that |
| 12:01.17 | Jin^eLD | thx |
| 12:01.21 | koen | XorA: can't we shout at lrg anyway? |
| 12:01.28 | XorA | koen: its a good plan |
| 12:02.30 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug has been RESOLVED by bugs.openembedded.org@rolf.leggewie.biz |
| 12:02.32 | cdbot2 | * * TouchScreen support |
| 12:02.34 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id= |
| 12:04.36 | XorA | koen: he has a secret fetish for fish slap so you can do that in person when in Edin :-) |
| 12:04.36 | onion__ | Laibsch, http://onionmixer.net/images/page/image/20070531_zaurusenv.png ............... my zaurus photo.. im using extra keyborad.. :D |
| 12:04.38 | XorA | ~fish lrg |
| 12:04.52 | ibot | ACTION slaps lrg around with a large trout |
| 12:05.19 | zecke | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XpnKHJAok8 awesome |
| 12:05.40 | koen | zecke: the monotone ml has a long thread about it |
| 12:06.31 | Laibsch | I'd like to point out two bugs with large "closure potential" for this weekend |
| 12:06.34 | Laibsch | !oebug 2194 |
| 12:06.36 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 2194, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-05-01 05:03 |
| 12:06.37 | cdbot2 | * * bugs.openembedded.org(AT)rolf.leggewie.biz: meta-bug: bugs waiting to be committed and fixed |
| 12:06.38 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2194 |
| 12:06.39 | Laibsch | !oebug 2228 |
| 12:06.41 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 2228, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-05-03 15:22 |
| 12:06.42 | cdbot2 | * * bugs.openembedded.org(AT)rolf.leggewie.biz: Meta-Bug: new or updated bb recipes |
| 12:06.45 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2228 |
| 12:07.05 | zecke | koen: yes |
| 12:07.12 | zecke | koen: I'm reading the mailinglist first |
| 12:07.20 | zecke | koen: I'm viewing the video first... |
| 12:07.47 | crink | onion__: http://kldp.org/node/80283 |
| 12:08.12 | crink | something is not fixed so easily |
| 12:08.31 | crink | so scim scim-hangul |
| 12:09.08 | onion__ | crink, im already view that's thread.. but that's user using 3bulsik keyborad use.. im 2bulsik |
| 12:09.57 | crink | onion__: have you read the link, there is no mention about 3bulsik, |
| 12:10.23 | crink | it is from my experience |
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| 12:11.16 | onion__ | crink, ...my desktop is linux.. and im using from gentoo 1.2.. my linux dekstop exp is now low...^.^; |
| 12:11.38 | crink | and note that above link only mention on *desktop* linux, not *embedded* environment. |
| 12:12.00 | crink | embedded environment is different. |
| 12:12.18 | onion__ | and that thread says ...linux env is bad... nabi only bad not. |
| 12:12.32 | crink | maybe |
| 12:12.47 | koen | zecke: the comment from graydon about pointer fiddling is noteworthy |
| 12:13.01 | XorA | koen: that sounds illegal |
| 12:13.16 | onion__ | hm.. for ex.. im rdesktop use in zaurus... zaurus is prefect terminal client device... |
| 12:15.03 | onion__ | i understand zaurus not desktop... ... but hope more useful this device. |
| 12:15.14 | onion__ | :D |
| 12:15.31 | crink | :) |
| 12:16.07 | onion__ | crink, but thank your advise.... (really~) |
| 12:16.59 | crink | onion__: np |
| 12:17.25 | onion__ | np? np mean? (internation irc newbie) |
| 12:17.37 | crink | no problem |
| 12:17.46 | onion__ | ah... ok thankyou..^.^ |
| 12:18.45 | crink | onion__: thx, thx to krisna |
| 12:19.21 | onion__ | crink, ?.... now talk with me..(other korean irc service) |
| 12:19.24 | onion__ | ^.^; |
| 12:20.59 | crink | onion__: thx but i don't. |
| 12:21.26 | onion__ | krisna says...... "i now know.... nabi, xim, angstrom problem..." |
| 12:21.27 | onion__ | ... |
| 12:21.34 | onion__ | hahahaha...T.T |
| 12:22.29 | crink | onion__: do some programming between {nabi,xim}, good luck |
| 12:23.21 | onion__ | thx crink :D |
| 12:23.33 | crink | onion__: :) |
| 12:23.44 | crink | have to go, g'night |
| 12:23.49 | onion__ | bye~ |
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| 12:30.33 | Jin^eLD | ...downloading the linux boards upport package :> I hope redboot will be there |
| 12:30.38 | Jin^eLD | XorA: does 3D rendering work for you? |
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| 12:32.10 | XorA | Jin^eLD: never tried it |
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| 12:36.48 | Jin^eLD | I see.. btw, did you try it with the dev board or is yours a final product that's already available? |
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| 12:37.10 | XorA | Jin^eLD: its a purchasable devboard |
| 12:38.38 | Laibsch | hrw: cables are finally in. But boy did the mail people mistreat that package! |
| 12:39.31 | hrw | Laibsch: good that they arrived |
| 12:39.35 | Laibsch | hrw: 9 cables inside as expected |
| 12:39.41 | Laibsch | hrw: Yes, I am glad, too |
| 12:39.47 | hrw | Laibsch: check one of them with spitz |
| 12:39.50 | XorA | Laibsch: yay |
| 12:40.07 | Laibsch | In case I don't see hvontres, please let him know |
| 12:40.18 | hrw | so cables: Laibsch, RP, CoreDump, XorA - who else was on list? |
| 12:40.31 | hrw | ~seen hvontres|poodle |
| 12:42.32 | ibot | hvontres|poodle <n=hvontres@63.92.216.147> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 13h 53m 45s ago, saying: 'thesing: hehe..a hacker with a manual...an dangerours combo :)'. |
| 12:42.35 | XorA | Bernado wanted one AFAIK |
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| 12:43.00 | hrw | ibot: botmail to hvontres|poodle Cables arrived to Laibsch. thx |
| 12:43.10 | hrw | ibot: thx |
| 12:43.24 | ibot | np, or eeeerrruuusssshhhwwwaaaaaAAAAAAAAA!!!!11 |
| 12:44.01 | Laibsch | first test: Cables fit. Passed ;-) |
| 12:44.05 | Laibsch | What now? |
| 12:44.26 | Laibsch | minicom? |
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| 12:44.46 | hrw | minicom |
| 12:44.59 | hrw | 115200 8n1 - no flow control |
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| 12:51.58 | Laibsch | hrw: What device node? |
| 12:52.26 | Laibsch | ttyS0? |
| 12:52.30 | hrw | /dev/ttyS0 usually |
| 12:52.38 | Laibsch | OK |
| 12:55.56 | Laibsch | I think I have made the settings. |
| 12:56.04 | Laibsch | How do I get a connection? |
| 12:56.05 | Laibsch | AM? |
| 12:56.10 | Laibsch | M? |
| 12:56.15 | Laibsch | stupid autocomplete |
| 12:57.01 | XorA | Laibsch: with a minicom on both ends, you should see what you type in one in the other |
| 12:57.21 | Laibsch | Ah |
| 12:57.30 | Laibsch | No minicom on the Z yet |
| 12:57.37 | Laibsch | This will have to wait until Sunday |
| 12:57.45 | XorA | s/minicom/picocom|cu/ |
| 12:57.55 | Laibsch | l8er |
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| 13:01.12 | XorA | Laibsch: actually getty should be running on Z side |
| 13:01.26 | XorA | Laibsch: so after hitting enter a couple of times you should get a login prompt |
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| 13:04.55 | jsheldon | is there a standardized format for custom OE distro's packages? I see that openmoko uses <name>_<version>+svnYYYYMMDD-r<revision> for their packages |
| 13:05.21 | XorA | jsheldon: its on the wiki |
| 13:05.41 | jsheldon | XorA: ok I must not have come across it yet then, thanks |
| 13:05.43 | koen | http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/VersioningPolicy |
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| 13:12.28 | hrw | ~change 32 gbp to pln |
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| 13:13.01 | koen | about 50 euro I gues |
| 13:13.04 | hrw | Laibsch: reboot Z - will be enough |
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| 13:15.08 | hrw | trains are more expensive then flights ;D |
| 13:18.44 | CIA-4 | 03polyonymous 07org.oe.dev * rd2b68d07... 10/ (4 files in 4 dirs): tree: a new .bb for tree recursive lister |
| 13:20.01 | XorA | hrw: UK trains are a massive government fsckup |
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| 13:28.47 | koen | RP: according to google upgrading a stk1000 involves replacing the chip and changing 2 lines in uboot |
| 13:32.53 | Marex | ibot, seen pbird |
| 13:32.57 | ibot | i haven't seen 'pbird', Marex |
| 13:33.02 | Marex | :-/ |
| 13:34.33 | theBrave | Hello, I've built a "bootstrap-image" target to have a simple linux kernel + rootfs. I think that now I need a uBoot image. Could oe build it for me ? |
| 13:34.41 | RP | koen: What kind of chip is it? Easily changed physically? |
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| 13:38.58 | XorA | theBrave: check out linux-gta01 |
| 13:39.38 | koen | KERNEL_IMAGE_TYPE = "uImage" or something like that |
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| 13:44.40 | Laibsch | hrw: I rebooted collie/a, another collie/OZ and spitz/A with the cable attached and minicom running on the host. No reaction. |
| 13:46.01 | koen | hey pH5 |
| 13:46.20 | pH5 | hej koen |
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| 13:47.54 | Crofton | theBrave, OE can build u-boot |
| 13:50.30 | theBrave | Crofton, is it an option to add to local.conf ? |
| 13:51.10 | Crofton | hmmm |
| 13:51.24 | Crofton | maybe listed in the kernel bb file |
| 13:51.27 | Crofton | or machine file |
| 13:51.41 | Crofton | look in machine/omap5912osk.conf |
| 13:51.45 | Crofton | I think it is there |
| 13:52.57 | theBrave | ok, I'll check |
| 13:57.08 | hrw | Laibsch: you have 2 serial ports in machine? |
| 13:57.35 | hrw | XorA: Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate... leads to suffering. |
| 13:57.41 | hrw | ops |
| 13:57.46 | hrw | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:57.56 | hrw | he tried to buy ticket online |
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| 14:03.44 | XorA | hrw: koen found that one out the other day |
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| 14:04.24 | XorA | Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. |
| 14:05.50 | pH5 | I will face my fear... And when it is gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. |
| 14:05.52 | pH5 | Where the fear is gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. |
| 14:06.31 | koen | fear is the mindkiller |
| 14:07.21 | RP | It probably makes me equally sad that I know where the quotes are from :) |
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| 14:07.36 | Crofton | where? |
| 14:07.41 | theBrave | Crofton, uboot is built but it doen't make the mkimage thing |
| 14:08.02 | pH5 | RP: :) |
| 14:08.54 | Crofton | mkimage is done in the kernel bb file |
| 14:09.00 | RP | Crofton: Dune (Frank Herbert) |
| 14:09.02 | theBrave | ok |
| 14:09.10 | Crofton | I think the kernel build files also run the mkiamge |
| 14:09.29 | Crofton | look in linux-omap1 kernel bb file for one hacky example |
| 14:09.30 | XorA | RP: but do you know they are describing a female orgasm :-) |
| 14:09.40 | Crofton | I should know that |
| 14:10.00 | pH5 | Hm, I think I missed the "pass over me and through me" part. |
| 14:10.37 | pH5 | XorA: how would frank herbert know? |
| 14:11.06 | XorA | pH5: not a clue, I think I read somewhere the mantra is based on some older work by a women |
| 14:11.07 | RP | I more remember the shortened version from the films as I've seen them a few times since I read the book... |
| 14:11.27 | RP | XorA: Its an interesting theory :) |
| 14:11.29 | XorA | I didnt like the SciFi versions, I love the original film |
| 14:12.04 | RP | Both had their good and bad points and picked up on different bits of the book |
| 14:13.15 | Laibsch | hrw: tried the cable on another computer with ttyS0, ttyS1 and ttyS2 and the collie/A. Still nothing. minicom shows offline and does not budge. I think I am doing something wrong. |
| 14:13.36 | RP | Laibsch: Try saving the settings in minicom and then restarting it |
| 14:13.44 | RP | Sounds mad but it sometimes acts a bit strange... |
| 14:13.50 | XorA | Laibsch: which distro are you on? |
| 14:13.59 | Laibsch | XorA: ubuntu |
| 14:14.03 | Laibsch | edgy |
| 14:14.08 | hrw | Laibsch: works for me with collie |
| 14:14.17 | XorA | cu -l /dev/ttyS0 -s 115200 |
| 14:14.26 | XorA | much better then minicom crap |
| 14:14.49 | hrw | XorA: minicom crap has few extras not present in cu |
| 14:15.01 | XorA | hrw: but not needed for basic serial access |
| 14:15.08 | Laibsch | what package for cu |
| 14:15.10 | Laibsch | ? |
| 14:15.39 | hrw | uucp |
| 14:15.47 | XorA | cu: /usr/bin/cu |
| 14:16.20 | Laibsch | yes, there seems to be a see you package |
| 14:16.29 | RP | uucp. That nice modern procotol :) |
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| 14:17.30 | Laibsch | I get "line in use" for all ttySx |
| 14:17.51 | koen | become root? |
| 14:18.13 | Laibsch | koen: I was root |
| 14:18.22 | koen | ah, qemu is working for armeb/eabi as well |
| 14:18.35 | hrw | Laibsch: chown uucp:uucp /dev/ttyS* and blame uucp authors |
| 14:18.39 | onion__ | Laibsch, not sleeping? |
| 14:21.29 | XorA | crw-rw---- 1 root dialout 4, 64 2007-05-31 15:13 /dev/ttyS0 |
| 14:21.32 | XorA | and cu works fine |
| 14:21.43 | XorA | debian packages removed the uucp requirement AFAIK |
| 14:22.16 | Laibsch | onion__: It is 4 o'clock in the afternoon here. |
| 14:22.20 | XorA | and runs as my normal user |
| 14:23.01 | XorA | hence why I use it as its soooooo much simpler than minicom |
| 14:23.14 | koen | cu -l /dev/ttyS0 -s 115200 |
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| 14:23.26 | koen | XorA: and cu supports resizing and colours |
| 14:23.31 | onion__ | Laibsch, america? |
| 14:23.32 | Laibsch | XorA: Same settings here. |
| 14:23.42 | Laibsch | onion__: Try again |
| 14:23.43 | XorA | Laibsch: lsof /dev/ttyS0 |
| 14:23.52 | onion__ | Laibsch, america? |
| 14:24.12 | hvontres|poodle | hrw,Laibsch : Thanks for you message...have fun with the cables :) |
| 14:24.44 | Laibsch | hvontres|poodle: Thanks for sending it. Did you give the package a good rub or was it the mail people? |
| 14:25.21 | Laibsch | Maybe that is why it came so late. 6-9 days? "We'll never manage to fuck it up so badly in that short time frame" ;-) |
| 14:25.39 | Laibsch | Maybe you should ask some of your money back |
| 14:26.09 | Laibsch | XorA: lsof returned empty |
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| 14:26.33 | hvontres|poodle | Laibsch: Not sure. But actually, that was the least expensive way... up to 2 Kg for $9.50 if you can stuff it in the envelope :) |
| 14:27.06 | XorA | Laibsch: wierd |
| 14:27.08 | hvontres|poodle | Laibsch: BTW, if somebody REALLY wants their original box and useless instruction sheet, I still have them at home :) |
| 14:27.12 | Laibsch | Wow, that is kinda bargain |
| 14:27.28 | Laibsch | hvontres|poodle: I am sure you'll get lots of requests |
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| 14:27.35 | XorA | groups |
| 14:27.35 | XorA | gg dialout cdrom floppy audio video plugdev netdev powerdev |
| 14:27.44 | Laibsch | XorA: Indeed. It works as the normal user, but not as root ;-) |
| 14:27.45 | XorA | Laibsch: you in dialout group |
| 14:27.47 | hvontres|poodle | Laibsch: actually, I think I did include one |
| 14:27.53 | hrw | hrw root adm mail dialout cdrom floppy audio src video plugdev |
| 14:27.55 | XorA | Laibsch: heh heh |
| 14:27.56 | Laibsch | hvontres|poodle: Yupp! |
| 14:28.22 | hvontres|poodle | Laibsch: and I am sure most of the people here have seen a serial cable before :) |
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| 14:29.20 | hvontres|poodle | Laibsch: the thing I am still puzzled by is why sharp didn't just mount the connector the other way around so that the keyboard cover can still slide down... |
| 14:29.29 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2406 has been created by rodrigo.vivi@gmail.com |
| 14:29.31 | cdbot2 | * * Build breaks when the user has a ~/.quiltrc file |
| 14:29.33 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2406 |
| 14:30.46 | Laibsch | OMG!!!11!!!!!11 |
| 14:32.54 | mwester | That's disappointing, isn't it? |
| 14:33.19 | koen | no ip54? |
| 14:35.18 | XorA | Laibsch: although I realised after saying I needed a spitz cable, as long as it works in C860/Collie thats good enough for the debug I need to do |
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| 14:36.37 | hrw | bye |
| 14:36.46 | hvontres|poodle | XorA: IIRC, they are all have the same pinout for serial |
| 14:37.16 | XorA | hvontres|poodle: they do, but different voltages |
| 14:37.40 | hvontres|poodle | XorA: figures... |
| 14:38.37 | hvontres|poodle | XorA: but isn't the sharp cable one of those active ones? |
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| 14:40.00 | XorA | hvontres|poodle: well that was the tesk Laibsh is doing :-) |
| 14:40.07 | XorA | s/tesk/test/ |
| 14:41.24 | Laibsch | correcting: Trying to do |
| 14:41.32 | Laibsch | And might not come around to today |
| 14:42.15 | koen | RP: could you have a quick look at http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2406 ? |
| 14:43.19 | hvontres|poodle | koen: http://www.questionablecontent.net/shirts/midlarge.png |
| 14:45.48 | koen | hvontres|poodle: I saw that, but bought http://www.questionablecontent.net/shirts/goodpoopin.png instead to hang in the bathroom ;) |
| 14:46.43 | hvontres|poodle | Laibsch: one thing to chck for is if the 3.3V suply on the connector (pin 11) is working. On poodle with a 2.6 kernel it is currently off. One way to check it is to set up your term program for 9600,n81 and reboot the Z you should see the sharp bootloader messages at least |
| 14:46.52 | koen | http://www.jephdraw.com/random/evolutionkillsbig.png is cute as well |
| 14:47.09 | hvontres|poodle | koen: yeah, I saw that at the top of the page..:) |
| 14:49.24 | theBrave | Crofton, I think I just understood: the uboot image is actually named vmlinux-2.6.20-omap1-omap5912osk-20070529073941.bin that's why I was confused |
| 14:49.39 | Crofton | heh |
| 14:49.59 | Crofton | that is the kernel image suitable for use by u-boot |
| 14:50.17 | hvontres|poodle | Crofton: isn't that name a bit short?? |
| 14:50.19 | Crofton | you keep saying u-boot, which was confusing me :) |
| 14:50.21 | Crofton | heh |
| 14:50.29 | Crofton | machine generated |
| 14:50.57 | Crofton | given OE can generate kernels for lots of machines, the name is clear |
| 14:51.00 | chouimat | morning |
| 14:51.12 | Crofton | I shorten it when I copy it to my tftpd directory :) |
| 14:54.14 | hvontres|poodle | Crofton: heh :) But you are only using 52 out of a possible 256 chars :) |
| 14:57.03 | Laibsch | hvontres|poodle: I am really in a hurry (and should *not* be checking IRC ;-)) Can you shoot me a quick mail about that? |
| 14:57.12 | Laibsch | I'll gladly check it on Sunday |
| 14:58.14 | Laibsch | XorA: Thanks for see you. Seems to work fine. |
| 14:58.19 | Laibsch | I'll do a quick test with the spitz now if I get at least some output |
| 14:58.35 | Laibsch | Logging in did not succeed over the serial cable |
| 14:58.42 | Laibsch | but would be nice in th future. |
| 14:58.53 | Laibsch | "Unable to determine your tty name." |
| 14:59.58 | hvontres|poodle | Laibsch: np. |
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| 15:00.44 | Laibsch | hrw, RP, XorA: I do get the console output from the spitz on my serial cable |
| 15:00.50 | Laibsch | It seems to work fine. |
| 15:01.09 | XorA | Laibsch: woo woo, get posting :-) |
| 15:01.21 | RP | Laibsch: yay :) |
| 15:01.30 | Laibsch | And I *AM* able to log into the spitz |
| 15:01.36 | Laibsch | Not the collie, though! |
| 15:01.41 | XorA | the real question is how the hell do you get that plastic out of the spitz |
| 15:01.46 | RP | Laibsch: 2.6 kernel? |
| 15:01.54 | Laibsch | yes, self-compiled angstrom |
| 15:02.03 | Laibsch | XorA: Yes, a real bitch |
| 15:02.20 | XorA | Laibsch: and does plastic go back in after extraction? |
| 15:02.24 | Laibsch | You should someone with sharp fingernails |
| 15:02.29 | Laibsch | XorA: Yes |
| 15:02.42 | XorA | Laibsch: ah cool, I shall have to wait until I next go gothing |
| 15:02.48 | Laibsch | And I hope it will come out a bit easier next time (although hopefully not too easy) |
| 15:03.13 | RP | Laibsch: The 2.6 collie serial might not work properly. same problem as poodle |
| 15:03.37 | Laibsch | OK, hvontres|poodle. There you go. |
| 15:03.47 | Laibsch | Probably broken on the collie, too. |
| 15:03.53 | Laibsch | I'll test more on Sunday |
| 15:04.59 | koen | sharp fingernails are handy in case you misplace the openmoko guitar pick :) |
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| 15:26.39 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r120adbf5... 10/ (1 packages/binutils/binutils_2.17.bb): binutils 2.17: add avr32 patches |
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| 15:32.55 | hrw | re |
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| 15:33.07 | hrw | collie works with ce-170ts here in both directions |
| 15:34.09 | hvontres|poodle | koen: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fv%2F1xXNoB3t8vM&ei=UepeRt_IDJbigQPwrNTVBA&usg=AFQjCNEvTOY4pH5zVVyWOj9s0EG4X6Q4eQ&sig2=6ZcAbsWEQjco8NybA9plOg |
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| 15:44.07 | theBrave | I have now a problem with u-boot: Uncompressing Kernel Image ... Error: inflate() returned -3 http://rafb.net/p/QCmavu28.html |
| 15:44.15 | theBrave | any ideas why ? |
| 15:44.32 | hrw | theBrave: uImage? |
| 15:44.55 | theBrave | ? |
| 15:45.10 | hrw | uImage you booted or zImage or bzImage? |
| 15:46.01 | theBrave | where I see it ? |
| 15:46.22 | theBrave | I used default setings |
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| 15:49.08 | theBrave | linux.bin is gzipped then packed |
| 15:50.27 | hrw | for uboot use 'make uImage' target during build of kernel |
| 15:52.11 | hrw | cu |
| 15:52.28 | chouimat | hrw|gone: bye |
| 16:01.14 | XorA|gone | lrg: huge ass thunder storm on way :-) |
| 16:02.27 | XorA|gone | JPatrin-mac: i just hope i make it to friends house before it hbitgs |
| 16:02.46 | JPatrin-mac | heh, of course |
| 16:02.48 | chouimat | XorA|gone: good luck :) |
| 16:07.25 | theBrave | ok I changed KERNEL_IMAGETYPE to uImage in linux-omap1.inc. How can I ask to create the image once again. When I bitbake bootstrap-image, I does nothing ? |
| 16:07.41 | theBrave | (I don't want to rm-rf tmp) |
| 16:08.06 | XorA|gone | theBrave: bitbake linux-blah -c rebuild |
| 16:08.31 | JPatrin-mac | or bitbake virtual/kernel -c rebuild |
| 16:08.35 | JPatrin-mac | (usually) |
| 16:08.50 | XorA|gone | crap solid rain |
| 16:10.25 | theBrave | ok, its doing something |
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| 16:26.03 | Crofton | theBrave, you are using OSK? |
| 16:26.07 | Crofton | I forget |
| 16:26.11 | thesing | RP, Laibsch: collie serial works fine. |
| 16:26.37 | RP | thesing: Under 2.6 without patches? |
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| 16:27.40 | thesing | RP under the kernel OE builds for collie. I didn't test with vanilla kernels. |
| 16:27.59 | RP | thesing: 2.4 or 2.6 though? |
| 16:28.15 | thesing | RP: 2.6 |
| 16:29.50 | RP | thesing: ok, cool :) |
| 16:30.21 | thesing | RP: BTW are you going to update linux-rp to 2.6.21? |
| 16:31.33 | koen | thesing: 2.6.21 is already in poky |
| 16:31.56 | koen | thesing: http://svn.o-hand.com/view/poky/trunk/meta/packages/linux/ |
| 16:32.09 | koen | it would be nice to have that in OE :) |
| 16:33.24 | RP | koen: Its only started working properly within the last few days ;-) |
| 16:33.56 | koen | that's why I didn't add it :) |
| 16:34.05 | RP | koen: I need to try and sort out some big defconfig conflicts with poky before merging |
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| 17:07.37 | steliosk | RP: Did you have time to look at the uclibc-initial issue |
| 17:07.44 | webblaster | hi I'm trying to install my wifi pcmcia card on jornada's linux It's proxim WD-8421 its orinoco silver with agere chip I tired provided kernel modules but none of them worked airo atmel hermes hostap orinoco spectrum_cs wlags49_h1_cs or wlags49_h2_cs but none of them weren't used by anythning and my card didnt work with them can you help me? |
| 17:07.44 | steliosk | ? |
| 17:09.10 | steliosk | webblaster : i *think* agere have their own drivers/patch/something to work. not 100% sure though |
| 17:12.41 | webblaster | I think they have wlags module but I don't know how to compile modules for arm on my x86 can anybody do it for me? |
| 17:13.03 | webblaster | heres the page which can help http://questier.com/howto.html#Proxim |
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| 17:23.57 | Laibsch | thesing: I remember now. I got stuck at building sysvinit. |
| 17:24.04 | Laibsch | MACHINE="collie" DISTRO="angstrom-2007.1-oabi" nice bitbake -c rebuild sysvinit fails |
| 17:24.28 | webblaster | schurig:Hi you said you use wlags driver from agere - I'd like to use it too but cant find it on net compiled for arm coz I dont have much experience in compiling that kind of stuff can you send it to me? I'll try if it works with my proxim wd-8421 wifi pcmcia card |
| 17:26.18 | thesing | Laibsch: All I can say about this is: Thats no kernel problem ;) I'll try if It works here. |
| 17:28.43 | Laibsch | thesing: /export/interim/openembedded/tmp/angstrom/work/collie-angstrom-linux/sysvinit-2.86-r34/temp/log.do_install.1376 |
| 17:28.55 | Laibsch | thesing: The kernel compiled fine. |
| 17:29.01 | Laibsch | But I cannot build an image |
| 17:29.09 | Laibsch | I know I could just use the kernel |
| 17:29.20 | Laibsch | But I have never done that |
| 17:32.40 | Laibsch | thesing: The link I meant to post was http://paste.stgraber.org/1261 |
| 17:33.59 | RP | steliosk: No, I still don't understand what the problem is. Both bitbakes seem to do the same thing? |
| 17:36.29 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2407 has been created by bugs.openembedded.org@rolf.leggewie.biz |
| 17:36.31 | cdbot2 | * * build of sysvinit fails in do_install |
| 17:36.33 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2407 |
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| 17:56.29 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2146 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by freyther@inf.fu-berlin.de |
| 17:56.32 | cdbot2 | * * bad RPATH in mencoder/mplayer (QA build failure) |
| 17:56.34 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2146 |
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| 19:09.58 | Crofton | what do we know about open source video codecs? |
| 19:10.32 | chouimat | Crofton some are good and some are bad :) |
| 19:10.46 | koen | ffmpeg is fast, but ugly and a bitch to program against, vlc has teh best h264 codec, gstreamer the nicest abstraction |
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| 19:11.22 | Crofton | so guy in my lab is asking |
| 19:11.37 | Crofton | ones that work well on data with bit errors would be good :) |
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| 19:19.55 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r3f7bf15a... 10/ (1 packages/uclibc/uclibc_0.9.28.bb): uclibc 0.9.28: rearrange patches, add avr32 one |
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| 19:24.46 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r554e3a4f... 10/ (1 classes/siteinfo.bbclass): siteinfo.bbclass: add rudimentary avr32 support |
| 19:24.52 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * re4304820... 10/ (1 conf/machine/at32stk1000.conf conf/machine/atngw100.conf): |
| 19:24.52 | CIA-4 | at32stk1000.conf, atngw100.conf: add skeleton machine descriptions for the atmel avr32 boards |
| 19:24.52 | CIA-4 | * missing: kernel defconfigs and uclibc configs |
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| 19:28.35 | Jin^eLD | rootfs_tar_do_rootfs: command not found, that's after building angstrom, what am I missing? too old bitbake? |
| 19:28.57 | Jin^eLD | using 1.6.6 |
| 19:32.13 | koen | yes |
| 19:32.19 | koen | use the 1.8 branch from svn |
| 19:34.21 | Jin^eLD | roger that |
| 19:47.17 | thesing | Laibsch: I just build an angstrom-console-image for collie from scratch without problems. |
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| 19:51.37 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r68d66801... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): uclibc 0.9.28: add quick & dirty avr32 config |
| 19:52.30 | koen | that only leaves a patch to gcc and some site-info files for working avr32 support |
| 19:55.29 | chouimat | cool |
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| 19:57.24 | koen | me only sees a gcc 4.0.4 patch for avr32 |
| 20:00.23 | koen | hmmm |
| 20:00.47 | koen | this company wants a fax stating I'm not using a devboard for military uses |
| 20:00.49 | koen | funny |
| 20:01.16 | woglinde | koen lol |
| 20:01.38 | chouimat | koen cool |
| 20:02.03 | woglinde | even the gpk dont forbid military uses |
| 20:02.07 | woglinde | gpl |
| 20:02.20 | koen | Check one: [ ] military [ ] commercial [ ] both |
| 20:02.23 | ljp | does throwing an ipaq at someone count as military device? |
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| 20:05.08 | chouimat | ljp: only if the target is a military :) |
| 20:05.47 | koen | gah, I'm an idiot |
| 20:06.25 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r6b20b4be... 10/ (1 packages/uclibc/uclibc-0.9.28/avr32/uClibc.config): uclibc 0.9.28: replace avr32 config with an actual avr32 config.... |
| 20:06.52 | chouimat | the avr32 architecture manual is interesting |
| 20:08.09 | koen | ~change 69 usd to eur |
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| 20:08.35 | chouimat | 50 |
| 20:09.13 | koen | that's pretty cheap |
| 20:09.31 | chouimat | koen I was close ... 51.28 |
| 20:09.49 | koen | http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/tools_card.asp?family_id=682&family_name=AVR32+32%2Dbit+MCU%2FDSP&tool_id=4102 is $69 |
| 20:10.35 | chouimat | hmmm 73 cad ... |
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| 20:11.20 | chouimat | koen how much ram? |
| 20:11.28 | koen | 32mb iirc |
| 20:11.53 | chouimat | this could make a nice little firewall |
| 20:13.45 | koen | darn |
| 20:13.47 | koen | glibc 2.6 |
| 20:14.03 | chouimat | where? |
| 20:14.12 | koen | http://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/glibc/glibc-2.6.tar.bz2 |
| 20:16.29 | pgfeller | Hi all; I would like to close bug 1312 about libvncserver 0.8.2, as the .bb submitted in bug 2125 replaces 0.8.2 with 0.9 - which builds w/o problem (0.9.2 is in the pipeline) - is this OK? What procedure do I have to follow? |
| 20:16.44 | chouimat | koen anything new in it? |
| 20:16.47 | pgfeller | sorry: 0.9.1 is in the pipe |
| 20:16.57 | koen | chouimat: no idea |
| 20:17.19 | chouimat | koen then look here http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/libc/NEWS?rev=1.176&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup&cvsroot=glibc |
| 20:18.54 | koen | useless as usual.... |
| 20:19.27 | koen | NOTE: Unpacking /home/koen/OE/downloads/glibc-2.6.tar.bz2 to /data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/work/armv5teb-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/glibc-2.6-r0/ |
| 20:22.49 | koen | that was easy |
| 20:22.54 | koen | all our patches still apply |
| 20:23.18 | timtimred | working? copied from the last 2.5 ? |
| 20:23.21 | koen | NOTE: package glibc-2.6-r0: task do_configure: completed |
| 20:23.27 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * re86f2e85... 10/ (1 packages/glibc/glibc_2.6.bb): glibc: add 2.6 |
| 20:23.42 | timtimred | ah even better :) |
| 20:24.01 | Crofton | we can't get rid of any patches? |
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| 20:29.31 | koen | zecke: welcome |
| 20:29.42 | zecke | I'm without light at home... |
| 20:29.52 | koen | use your lcd |
| 20:30.15 | chouimat | zecke: so you have some light then ;) |
| 20:30.33 | koen | this headache is killing me |
| 20:30.34 | zecke | cable tv is broken as well, internet didn't work until some seconds ago |
| 20:30.37 | koen | 'night all |
| 20:30.58 | zecke | somehow one fuse gets overloaded (immediately...) and I can't figure out why |
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| 20:31.50 | jsheldon | I'm trying to figure out how SRCDATE works with subversion, I set SRCDATE = "20070531" in my recipe, the most recent revision that it should grab is 33025, but instead it grabs 33018 |
| 20:32.09 | jsheldon | what determines when SRCDATE gets cut off? |
| 20:32.14 | Crofton | it gtabs the beginning of the day, not the end |
| 20:32.16 | zecke | jsheldon: your server timezone |
| 20:32.30 | zecke | jsheldon: if you want to have revision 33025, why don't fetch that? |
| 20:32.36 | Crofton | SRCDATE = "now" |
| 20:32.38 | Crofton | ? |
| 20:33.25 | jsheldon | well I want to be able to specify a known-stable time |
| 20:33.48 | zecke | jsheldon: take a look at the BitBake manual, if it is wrong report a bug report |
| 20:34.07 | jsheldon | I had assumed that setting SRCDATE to the current date it would grab the latest commits |
| 20:34.16 | jsheldon | zecke: ok thanks |
| 20:34.17 | zecke | jsheldon: Your server clock defines the time, if you want to a specific stable revision, fetch that.... and leave SRCDATE alone |
| 20:34.53 | zecke | jsheldon: it asks the server to get 20070531... and this basicly means 20070531 and 0:0:0 |
| 20:36.58 | jsheldon | a-ha, now I understand, I didn't notice that rev 33018 was the last revision from yesterday, makes sense |
| 20:37.37 | jsheldon | now I wonder what happens if I set the date in the future... |
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| 20:38.37 | zecke | jsheldon: read the manual and report shortcomings to the bug tracker |
| 20:38.44 | jsheldon | nope, it's too smart for me, it still used today's date |
| 20:38.52 | jsheldon | zecke: will do, thanks |
| 20:38.55 | zecke | otherwise we might just remove the bits of documentation we have... as no one is reading the, |
| 20:38.58 | zecke | them even |
| 20:39.50 | chouimat | zecke: hehe |
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| 20:51.40 | Marex | polyonymous, so ... one more isp hating round :) |
| 20:51.51 | polyonymous | Should I comment on it? :) |
| 20:52.07 | Marex | polyonymous, no need for it ;) |
| 20:52.31 | polyonymous | ah ok. I was under impression that it is what you were asking for :) |
| 20:52.39 | Marex | I thought about letting my pcs run whole night and rebuild my OE tree ... but like this ... :E |
| 20:52.48 | Marex | polyonymous, ;-) |
| 20:53.14 | polyonymous | Marex, no automatic reconnect? |
| 20:53.34 | Marex | polyonymous, thats not it ... I dont want to make nickflood |
| 20:53.49 | polyonymous | ah. /quit? :) |
| 20:54.41 | Marex | (on irc) and about OE ... it stops the download after certain number of fails |
| 20:55.29 | polyonymous | OE should have something like `emerge -f` so that you can run fetch tasks for your stuff and then build it. |
| 20:55.29 | polyonymous | I mean something similar to gentoo's `emerge -f` that is |
| 20:56.11 | Marex | I mean ... I dont like gentoo :) |
| 20:56.19 | Marex | polyonymous, do you feel like starting distro war here ? :D |
| 20:56.30 | polyonymous | that has nothing to do with the issue in question. |
| 20:56.55 | polyonymous | Of course not, I'd rather argue about vim vs emacs :) |
| 20:57.04 | Marex | weee ,,,, that might be interesting :) |
| 20:57.11 | Marex | emacs is great ... |
| 20:57.26 | Marex | ... OS ... but it missed one important thing ... the kernel |
| 20:58.30 | polyonymous | but misses one important thing - editor :) |
| 20:58.37 | koen | NOTE: package glibc-2.6-r0: task do_compile: completed |
| 20:58.42 | koen | this is too scary |
| 20:58.53 | woglinde | koen why? |
| 20:58.56 | polyonymous | koen, tried running it yet? |
| 20:59.00 | Marex | polyonymous, but you can play asteroids there ;) and tetris and ... what else :) |
| 20:59.12 | polyonymous | koen, have you diffed it with 2.5? Maybe it's just a rename release:) |
| 20:59.27 | polyonymous | Marex, I want to play vim there |
| 20:59.32 | koen | polyonymous: bitbake <foo> -c fetchall |
| 20:59.57 | polyonymous | koen, aha! But s/polyonymous/Marex/ then :) |
| 20:59.59 | Marex | polyonymous, maybe there is vim plugin for emacs ... but thats not important ;) |
| 21:00.20 | Marex | koen, thanx mighty OE master :) |
| 21:00.46 | polyonymous | and yes, now you should interpret my "OE should have" not as suggestion, but rather like assumption :) |
| 21:01.06 | koen | fetchall is a 1.8.x feature iirc |
| 21:01.17 | koen | inter-task dependencies and stuff |
| 21:01.57 | Marex | koen, :) thanx |
| 21:02.59 | koen | thanks hrw and RP for it |
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| 21:05.00 | polyonymous | Do they both suffer from isps? :) |
| 21:08.45 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rc6d27052... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 21:08.45 | CIA-4 | glibc-initial: add 2.6 |
| 21:08.45 | CIA-4 | glibc-intermediate: add 2.6 |
| 21:12.25 | CIA-4 | 03polyonymous 07org.oe.dev * r2e1c605c... 10/ (1 packages/xqt2/xqt2_20060509.bb): xqt2: install into proper location. Closes #2100 |
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| 21:13.29 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2100 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by polyonymous@klever.net |
| 21:13.31 | cdbot2 | * * xqt2 minor bug |
| 21:13.33 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2100 |
| 21:14.11 | koen | RP: is the first ':' needed in PATH =+ ":${EXTERNAL_TOOLCHAIN}/bin:" ? |
| 21:14.33 | koen | RP: external_toolchain.conf is mega-cool, btw |
| 21:15.07 | Marex | koen, does OE compile under MacOS/PPC ? |
| 21:15.14 | koen | yes |
| 21:15.18 | Marex | thanx :) |
| 21:15.31 | koen | is you have a case-sensitive filesystem |
| 21:16.58 | Marex | koen, it's not my machine ;) but this can be probably easily solved ;) |
| 21:17.19 | koen | it's a checkbox in the format wizard |
| 21:17.51 | koen | 'Disk Utility' or something like that |
| 21:17.54 | Marex | koen, friend of mine just asked this to me so I passed it to expert ;) |
| 21:18.24 | koen | http://www.openembedded.org/buildonosx |
| 21:18.43 | koen | that might not be up-to-date |
| 21:18.43 | koen | but it's a wiki :) |
| 21:19.18 | Marex | koen, ok .. Ill pass it to him :) thanx again |
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| 21:21.54 | koen | "Customer certifies that the commodities, software, and/or technology will not be used, sold, re-exported or incorporated into products used directly or indirectly, in the design, development, production, stockpiling, or use of chemical or biological weapons, nuclear programs (including activities related to nuclear explosive devices, nuclear reactors, and nuclear fuel-cycle activities), missiles (including cruise and ballistic missile systems, space lau |
| 21:22.06 | koen | I should stop reading documents I sign |
| 21:23.06 | polyonymous | I wonder if you were buying shampoo or potatos. |
| 21:23.48 | chouimat|pub | koen hehehe |
| 21:28.25 | koen | NOTE: package gcc-4.2.0-r0: task do_unpack: started |
| 21:28.36 | Zuse | Hi all, |
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| 21:31.04 | Zuse | just come back to OE to try RPs patch. However just try to "start" the engine but ends up with ERROR: Unable to open conf/bitbake.conf. |
| 21:31.38 | Zuse | ....and as usual I didn't change anything :D |
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| 21:39.26 | koen | yay, gcc 4.2.0 needs one patch less |
| 21:41.30 | cbrake | Zuse: sounds like the OE metadata is not in the BBPATH? |
| 21:42.24 | Zuse | cbrake: sorry to bother you, just solved the problem. For some reason BBPATH was not set by the script. |
| 21:42.43 | cbrake | Zuse: great! |
| 21:44.25 | Zuse | For some reasons the script I copied from Angstrom website do not set the desired variables for me. Any ideas ? |
| 21:44.43 | cbrake | Zuse: can you point me to the script |
| 21:46.47 | artem | привет народ может есть кто русский? |
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| 21:48.37 | Zuse | cbrake: http://pastebin.ca/526629 |
| 21:49.36 | cbrake | Zuse: are your source'ing the script, or running it |
| 21:50.15 | cbrake | Zuse: if you are running it, it will not set env variables. |
| 21:51.03 | cbrake | need to run -- later ... |
| 21:55.39 | hvontres|poodle | koen: so what are you not putting in your nuclear-powered space-launced chemical weapons platform? |
| 21:56.05 | koen | an avr32 board |
| 21:56.19 | koen | i was trying to get a price quote (shipping to europe and all) |
| 21:56.38 | hvontres|poodle | koen: awww shucks... there go our plans for OE powered WMD's |
| 21:56.44 | Zuse | did some of you saw the new palm-sweety already :) |
| 21:57.15 | koen | yes, I want one |
| 21:57.40 | koen | It would be great for traveling light and doing some computer work |
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| 21:58.13 | Zuse | koen: Just to learn and to understand if there is a new platform what will be the tasks to create a distri from OE fro it? |
| 21:58.32 | koen | add a machine.conf and a kernel |
| 21:58.45 | koen | and maybe some config files for the xserver |
| 21:59.39 | koen | yay: NOTE: package gcc-4.2.0-r0: task do_patch: completed |
| 21:59.43 | Zuse | so, if there is a kernel to grab all the hardware together it seems to be "easy" right ? |
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| 22:01.29 | koen | bah, I shouldn't be refreshing patches at midnight |
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| 22:03.53 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r78f88c31... 10/ (29 files in 3 dirs): gcc: add 4.2.0 with some refreshed patches, untested |
| 22:04.13 | koen | enough gnu fanboying for the day |
| 22:05.02 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r77ee40e4... 10/ (1 packages/gcc/gcc-cross_4.2.0.bb): gcc-cross: add 4.2.0 |
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| 22:16.20 | timtimred | Zuse! yeah, its that easy... you might even manage it in a weekend |
| 22:18.16 | Zuse | timtimred: just asking because I fall in love with one of the e-ink devices from e.g. Sony. The "display" is really unbelievable great... |
| 22:18.57 | Zuse | timtimred: ...however pure e-book reading of DRM books are boring. Like to get a bit more linux-spice in it |
| 22:25.14 | likewise | Zuse: which display specifically? |
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| 22:38.13 | RP | koen: external_toolchain doesn't entirely work yet and needs some refinement ;-) |
| 22:38.40 | RP | koen: There is the small issue of the ipks and pkgdata being missing so images don't work |
| 22:39.00 | RP | I have faith it can be made to work though |
| 22:39.16 | RP | Does anyone use the OE: fields in packages? |
| 22:39.45 | RP | What I mean is, is anyone going to scream if I change the format? |
| 22:40.41 | mwester | RP: not used in Unslung or SlugOS distros AFAIK |
| 22:41.37 | RP | mwester: The current format isn't machine parsable which is a big disadvantage as far as I can see |
| 22:41.57 | RP | mwester: Particularly when I need to parse it... :} |
| 22:43.01 | mwester | Not really human-parsable either, or rather, not really human-comprehensible by end-users of the packages. I'm all in favor of machine-readable formats |
| 22:43.42 | RP | I'm thinking of PN [PE:]PV-PR |
| 22:44.45 | CoreDump|home | re |
| 22:44.54 | woglinde_ | hi coredump |
| 22:45.06 | mwester | CoreDump|home: greetings and salutations |
| 22:45.12 | RP | hi CoreDump|home |
| 22:46.22 | hvontres|poodle | CoreDump|home: I should have something for you to play with this weekend :) |
| 22:46.29 | Zuse | RP: You are still fit enough to guide me for catching the kernel, sorry but I just started with OE |
| 22:46.52 | Zuse | ups, patching |
| 22:47.00 | CoreDump|home | hvontres|poodle: great =) |
| 22:47.10 | thesing | CoreDump|home: is it possible ATM to use altboot on collie 2.6 to boot a 2.4 kernel and image from sd? |
| 22:47.12 | RP | Zuse: To patch it you should just need to add a line in the .bb file |
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| 22:47.18 | CoreDump|home | zecke: thank you for that youtube link w/ Linus @ google |
| 22:47.52 | zecke | CoreDump|home: as koen pointed out there is a complete discussion on the monotone list |
| 22:48.01 | CoreDump|home | hvontres|poodle: could your kexec changes be made to work on collie? |
| 22:48.12 | RP | Actually, the version field in the ipk is fine, we should just use PN for the OE filed, not the abomination that is P |
| 22:48.22 | hvontres|poodle | CoreDump|home: for 2.6 kernels, yes. |
| 22:48.23 | thesing | CoreDump|home: kexec already works on collie |
| 22:48.25 | CoreDump|home | zecke: I didn't read the full backlog |
| 22:48.51 | CoreDump|home | thesing: vanilla altboot has no support for kexec, hvontres|poodle changed that IIRC |
| 22:49.05 | hvontres|poodle | thesing: 2.4 kenrnels use that EVIL sharp binary only SD driver, so I don't think so |
| 22:49.33 | hvontres|poodle | CoreDump|home: well, all I really did was add a nice wrapper to kecec -l <foo>.bin ; kexec -e :) |
| 22:49.50 | Zuse | RP: where do I put the patch file and which bbclass should I modify ? Again, I'm a newbie ;) |
| 22:49.56 | thesing | hvontres|poodle: but could I use an ex2 image from cf ? |
| 22:50.13 | RP | Zuse: Which kernel are you using, 2.6.20? |
| 22:50.19 | CoreDump|home | thesing: it is possible, just not easily |
| 22:50.21 | mwester | hvontres|poodle: what package name for your wrapper? (I'm interested in what you've done!) |
| 22:50.47 | hvontres|poodle | thesing: that could work, but IIRC there was some issue with 2.6 screwing up the mtd pattitions for 2.4 |
| 22:51.18 | hvontres|poodle | mwester: I hope to have something ready by this weekend..:) |
| 22:51.50 | hvontres|poodle | mwester: currently, I am planning on releasing it as altboot-1.0.8+1.0.9_pre :) |
| 22:51.52 | RP | Zuse: Put the patch in openembedded/packages/linux/linux-rp-2.6.20 and add a line to openembedded/packages/linux/linux-rp_2.6.20.bb saying file://patchname.patch;patch=1 |
| 22:52.39 | hvontres|poodle | well, time for me to get going. |
| 22:52.56 | Zuse | RP: As far as I can see, the patch was made for 2.6.21 but I can only find 2.6.20 in my sources |
| 22:53.11 | RP | Zuse: It should apply and work against 2.6.20 |
| 22:53.35 | Zuse | RP: Thanks will try |
| 22:54.43 | thesing | hvontres|poodle: will this release be able to do this or are some bits still missing? |
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| 23:02.03 | thesing | cu |
| 23:06.58 | Zuse | RP: After applying the changing, a bitbake virtual/kernel should create a zImage for me rigtht ? |
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| 23:17.37 | Zuse | good night |
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