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| 06:57.28 | steliosk | morning all |
| 06:57.55 | steliosk | Crofron : Are you using bitbake 1.6 or 1.8 with the oldconfig problem |
| 06:58.02 | steliosk | Crofton : Are you using bitbake 1.6 or 1.8 with the oldconfig problem |
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| 09:08.42 | koen | hmmm |
| 09:08.55 | koen | patches that add files suck |
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| 10:10.55 | Crofton | steliosk, I had turned the config into an x86 one .... |
| 10:10.56 | Crofton | ooops |
| 10:12.14 | steliosk | Crofton : So basically oldconfig it was waiting for user input ? |
| 10:12.22 | Crofton | yep :) |
| 10:12.41 | steliosk | which bitbake you were using ? |
| 10:12.44 | Crofton | I am trying to get some stuff ready for our symposium next week |
| 10:13.27 | Crofton | 1.8.3 |
| 10:13.54 | steliosk | hmm can you try the same operation (with the same config that halted in 1.8.3) with 1.6 ? |
| 10:14.53 | Crofton | not very easily |
| 10:14.57 | Crofton | why? |
| 10:15.35 | steliosk | i am having a similar problem with uclibc-initial and 1.8 |
| 10:16.00 | Crofton | ah |
| 10:16.10 | Crofton | for efika? |
| 10:16.24 | steliosk | any powerpc target |
| 10:16.30 | steliosk | but its not ppc specific |
| 10:16.51 | Crofton | are you using make xconfig to change the defconfig? |
| 10:17.47 | steliosk | if the config used is out of sync with the version that is need to be used, then oldconfig freezes with 1.8 waiting for user input but goes through without any problem with 1.6 |
| 10:18.41 | Crofton | hmm |
| 10:18.43 | steliosk | its like there is a -answer-yes-to-all switch ised in 1.6 and no need to get user input |
| 10:18.59 | Crofton | this was a case of valid user input |
| 10:19.24 | Crofton | I think you need to do make ARCH=powerpc xconfig now |
| 10:19.42 | Crofton | just make xconfig flipped the arch back to x86 |
| 10:19.58 | Crofton | then running with powerpc made it stop asking 32 or 64 bits PPC |
| 10:20.15 | steliosk | i know that, this is how i make it. but this is a bit different |
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| 10:20.54 | Crofton | well, I am really busy for the next week unfortunately :( |
| 10:21.04 | Crofton | we have a symposium W-F |
| 10:21.18 | Crofton | and I must have a radio demo running on the efika and the OSK |
| 10:21.55 | steliosk | np. i told RP about it, can't seem to find it either. probably he is busy with other stuff now also |
| 10:22.18 | Crofton | so I can't really do any test builds, in case I need to rebuild a package quickly |
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| 10:27.45 | steliosk | Crofton : hmm efika and OSK cool ! |
| 10:28.33 | Crofton | yeah |
| 10:28.58 | Crofton | running part of a radio on OSK, and another on the EFIKA |
| 10:29.32 | Crofton | just trying to show distributed signal processing in a heterogenous envirnment |
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| 10:33.21 | steliosk | Crofton : I would appreciate if you could send me some material after you are finished , i could add them to my Power.org presentation |
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| 10:34.15 | Crofton | such as? |
| 10:34.26 | Crofton | what is your topic? |
| 10:35.50 | steliosk | OE and the Power architecture |
| 10:35.55 | Crofton | ok |
| 10:36.12 | Crofton | I use OE to build the smae software for each board |
| 10:36.36 | Crofton | this may be less interesting to the power.org guys |
| 10:36.50 | Crofton | but I can work on some stuff over the summer |
| 10:37.10 | Crofton | I need a lackey to do some things for me |
| 10:37.21 | steliosk | it would be nice to include stuff people are doing using OE in real world |
| 10:37.29 | Crofton | like figure out signal processing on the EFIKA |
| 10:37.34 | Crofton | yes |
| 10:37.48 | Crofton | the genesii guys will like that |
| 10:38.19 | Crofton | I am also going to talk to some networking guys this week and see if I can convince them to buy some efikas for netowrking research |
| 10:38.38 | steliosk | well, there are some "dsp" commands in the ppc core but i drought if anything is using them |
| 10:38.46 | Crofton | yeah |
| 10:38.48 | steliosk | well with 99$ a board who can say no |
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| 10:39.00 | Crofton | must cppus have limited "vector" math capability |
| 10:39.10 | Crofton | yeah, that is what I am thinking |
| 10:40.25 | steliosk | any plans to be at power.org dev ? |
| 10:44.11 | steliosk | Crofton : and then i will be off to Phoenix for Astricon |
| 10:44.24 | Crofton | what is Astircon |
| 10:44.38 | Crofton | I doubt I can make the power.org thing |
| 10:44.45 | Crofton | unless I get someone to pay :) |
| 10:45.03 | Crofton | I onder how much cell content there is .. |
| 10:45.52 | steliosk | Crofton : s/Astircon/Astricon |
| 10:46.02 | steliosk | Crofton : www.astricon.net |
| 10:47.35 | Crofton | ah |
| 10:47.37 | Crofton | cool |
| 10:48.20 | steliosk | and then (probably ) to San Jose/ SF for a week |
| 10:48.37 | Crofton | sounds like quite the boondoggle |
| 10:48.59 | steliosk | its be yearly "pilgrimage" to US :) |
| 10:49.13 | Crofton | wrong parts though |
| 10:49.16 | Crofton | :) |
| 10:49.44 | steliosk | yeah its more bussiness less or no fun usually... |
| 10:50.20 | steliosk | although i hope if time (and money permits) to spend a weekend in Vegas :) |
| 10:50.26 | Crofton | heh |
| 10:50.49 | Crofton | I like Vegas, but only because you can stay in funny places and go hiking in the desert easily |
| 10:50.59 | Crofton | or mountains |
| 10:51.37 | steliosk | i'd like to do the ballon tour if its still availiable (flight at night over Vegas) |
| 10:52.09 | Crofton | http://www.balister.org/~balister/Vegas05/ |
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| 10:54.55 | nauj27 | hi all |
| 10:55.57 | polyonymous_ | What might be causing that? File "<bb>", line 32, in package_qa_check_rdepends |
| 10:55.57 | polyonymous_ | NameError: global name 'name' is not defined |
| 10:56.15 | steliosk | Crofton : 2599 is funny.... especially the 3rd item that is not allowed :) |
| 10:57.24 | Crofton | heh |
| 10:57.51 | Crofton | somewhere I have a picture in the Denver airport declaring no fireworks |
| 10:58.57 | steliosk | Crofton : last time i wend to Vegas i drove from SF |
| 10:59.13 | Crofton | that must be a nice drive |
| 10:59.20 | Crofton | I have driven there from LA |
| 10:59.22 | polyonymous | looks like a bug in insane. |
| 10:59.41 | Crofton | in an 8 cyclinder THunderbird rental |
| 11:00.31 | steliosk | Crofton : yeah and i figured out why cars in the US have speed control in the wheel.... you get tired pressing the gas pedal at exactly the same position for so long :) |
| 11:01.23 | Crofton | yeah |
| 11:03.49 | steliosk | launch time... |
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| 11:42.52 | polyonymous | koen|away, ping? |
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| 12:31.51 | CoreDump|home | morning |
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| 12:57.24 | koen | polyonymous: pong |
| 12:57.32 | polyonymous | just in time :) |
| 12:57.51 | polyonymous | koen, I have a insane.bbclassophobia, so I wanted you to take a look before comitting |
| 12:57.56 | polyonymous | http://rafb.net/p/slWgfP79.html |
| 12:58.24 | polyonymous | that is, it was failing with NameError: global name 'name' is not defined |
| 12:58.36 | polyonymous | And this class scares the hell out of me :) |
| 12:58.37 | koen | the patch looks ok |
| 12:58.43 | polyonymous | Good, thanks. |
| 12:58.57 | polyonymous | I'm trying to make a qt4.3.0. bb |
| 12:59.05 | polyonymous | (x-one) |
| 12:59.24 | koen | nice |
| 12:59.35 | CIA-3 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rebd1e2a6... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): pidgin: update to 2.0.1 |
| 12:59.46 | polyonymous | Basically, it's almost done, except for broken .pc files. |
| 13:00.16 | polyonymous | I take it, it's safe to commit, since 4.2.0 doesn't build for me, anyway. |
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| 13:01.12 | polyonymous | So would I. I was going to try to build opie-reader for x. And I will try to, once I get qt4 |
| 13:03.42 | CIA-3 | 03polyonymous 07org.oe.dev * rdb7ab968... 10/ (1 classes/insane.bbclass): classes/insane: fixed a bug with undefined 'name' and improved output a bit. |
| 13:06.29 | Laibsch | koen: Is it safe to push stuff to the feeds now? |
| 13:06.52 | koen | depends on what the stuff is |
| 13:07.19 | Laibsch | koen: You said the scripts were generally broken. That is what my question is about. |
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| 13:15.26 | Laibsch | Is it possible to transfer files or connect to the Internet over the serial cable from the Zaurus? I assume yes, but have yet to find out how. |
| 13:16.01 | koen | minicom and cu should be able to do it, but I never succeeded in doing it |
| 13:16.04 | polyonymous | over ppp, I think. |
| 13:16.28 | koen | ipkg install ppp-dialin first :) |
| 13:16.49 | polyonymous | I don't think minicom/cu would connect you to the net. But they may be of help for transferring files. |
| 13:16.56 | Laibsch | hm |
| 13:17.01 | steliosk | can anyone try to dowload a fresh copy of clamsmtp and see if it fails md5 checksums check ? |
| 13:17.19 | polyonymous | Laibsch, I wouldn't recommend it, you will waste a lot of time on it and the achievement doesn't really worth it. |
| 13:18.58 | Laibsch | polyonymous: I come to the same conclusion |
| 13:19.03 | Laibsch | unfortunately |
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| 13:19.24 | Laibsch | WLAN does not work OOTB. And encryption is even worse. |
| 13:19.43 | polyonymous | Can't test my wlan anymore - my card has physically died. |
| 13:19.50 | polyonymous | I only do usbnet/bluetooth. |
| 13:20.08 | polyonymous | Both work, although pairing bluetooth for opie image isn't easy :) |
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| 13:20.26 | polyonymous | <3? |
| 13:20.58 | koen | tilt your head 90 degrees to the right |
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| 13:21.08 | polyonymous | ah |
| 13:21.21 | polyonymous | I was tilting to the left and seeing an arse :) |
| 13:21.27 | koen | :D |
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| 13:22.01 | polyonymous | bt supposedly takes up less battery, than wlan, although I haven't ever tested it. |
| 13:22.10 | steliosk | clamsmtp error -> http://rafb.net/p/8mWeyl38.html |
| 13:22.13 | polyonymous | and we need a better bt config stuff. |
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| 13:23.12 | koen | polyonymous: bluez-gnome is a good start |
| 13:23.19 | polyonymous | stefan_schmidt, gentoo portage tree thinks 04da6aab94934641fcf9e7a7598346fb |
| 13:23.24 | polyonymous | ooops |
| 13:23.27 | polyonymous | steliosk, ^^ |
| 13:23.41 | koen | polyonymous: I'm planning to put bluez-utils 3.11 in the feeds next week |
| 13:23.42 | polyonymous | koen, no, I mean low-level. Like hciattaching serial-cs |
| 13:24.17 | polyonymous | koen, http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=740#c8 |
| 13:24.40 | koen | polyonymous: hciattach is moving to dbus AFAIK |
| 13:25.00 | polyonymous | to dbus? what does it have to do with dbus? |
| 13:25.07 | steliosk | polyonymous : I think the source file tar is broken |
| 13:25.17 | polyonymous | steliosk, I think checksum.ini is. |
| 13:25.33 | polyonymous | oh no |
| 13:25.44 | polyonymous | steliosk, of course tarball seems to be broken. |
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| 13:26.26 | polyonymous | steliosk, but I don't have the old one. Maybe you should file a bug. |
| 13:26.49 | steliosk | can someone try to download also, to verify that's not my net connection or something |
| 13:27.04 | polyonymous | steliosk, after my qt4 build fails :) |
| 13:27.22 | Laibsch | steliosk: I am loading right now |
| 13:28.02 | steliosk | there is a also a 1.9 out but fails to build looking for some config file that's missing |
| 13:28.49 | koen | polyonymous: you can send a dbus message to hcid and it will attach to the serial port |
| 13:29.11 | koen | polyonymous: no more 'killall hciattach && hciattach /dev/foo' |
| 13:29.37 | polyonymous | Does hciattach attaches hcid to the device? Or something low-level like irattach? |
| 13:30.05 | polyonymous | I thought the latter, but it's been a while since I really explored the problem. I think it attaches hci-uart to serial, though. |
| 13:30.20 | koen | something like that |
| 13:30.29 | koen | ~seen holtmann |
| 13:30.50 | ibot | holtmann <n=holtmann@nikita.holtmann.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 9d 22h 20m 26s ago, saying: 'koen: bluez-libs-3.11 and bluez-utils-3.11 are out.'. |
| 13:30.51 | polyonymous | Then you mean it moves to hci and controlled via dbus... hmm... |
| 13:32.04 | polyonymous | org.bluez.Manager doesn't seem to have corresponding methods, though. |
| 13:32.26 | koen | right, that's why I wanted to talk to marcel |
| 13:32.38 | koen | he mentioned it's being planned |
| 13:32.57 | polyonymous | Well, then it makes sense to wait and see. |
| 13:33.28 | koen | but my point: any bluetooth config ui should use dbus |
| 13:33.37 | koen | I heard the qtopia4 one is pretty neat |
| 13:34.11 | polyonymous | maybe. I'm not sure about this one, though. It's quite low-level. |
| 13:34.21 | polyonymous | On the other hand there's nothing wrong with it either. |
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| 13:36.59 | Laibsch | steliosk: Same result here |
| 13:37.24 | polyonymous | so they've changed tarball after release. Need to get a hold of someone with the old file |
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| 13:37.28 | steliosk | ok. i have send an email to the clamsmtp devs |
| 13:37.41 | polyonymous | or that |
| 13:37.58 | steliosk | do we need to add a bug in out bugtracker also ? |
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| 13:38.22 | polyonymous | unless they get the old file back up |
| 13:38.30 | Laibsch | steliosk: There is a doc in the wiki |
| 13:39.07 | Laibsch | http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/UpdateChecksumsIni |
| 13:39.56 | polyonymous | wouldn't mtn annotate do? |
| 13:40.00 | steliosk | Laibsch : The source tar ball is broken. If you try to untar it you get an error, that why the md5 don't match |
| 13:40.45 | polyonymous | steliosk, then most likely we don't need a bug. unless it's an upgrade bug :) |
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| 14:00.11 | artem | people help me.... i have a problem.... my programm is running on xserver-kdrive (created with the help of FLTK)... Widgets are not getting focus... |
| 14:00.26 | artem | Xfbdev |
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| 14:18.23 | Laibsch | I have problems with building sysvinit. It seems to work for others. Rather than cleaning out tmp, I removed stamps to force a rebuild. But it seems this does not do much |
| 14:19.12 | Laibsch | For example, I removed the stamps for libtool-native. sysvinit depends on libtool-native but even after I removed the stamps for litbootl-native it is not being rebuilt |
| 14:19.16 | Laibsch | Why is that? |
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| 14:23.44 | Crofton|laptop | my latest FC6 updates include busybox to satisfy a dependency .... |
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| 14:31.01 | CoreDump|home | muwahaha |
| 14:33.00 | Crofton_ | I need to talk the guy in the list into using Angstrom on his OSK |
| 14:33.01 | koen | and people said being debian-based is no-good |
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| 14:33.21 | koen | Crofton_: just say something like 'generic is broken for osk' ;) |
| 14:33.29 | Crofton_ | heh |
| 14:33.37 | Crofton_ | I ahve talked to this guy b4 I think |
| 14:33.45 | Crofton_ | need to go through my email folders |
| 14:34.05 | Crofton_ | new one is in the mail though |
| 14:34.16 | Crofton_ | I think he is interested in SDR |
| 14:34.36 | koen | bibble is sucking up CPU :( |
| 14:34.46 | Crofton_ | bibble? |
| 14:35.23 | Crofton_ | photo stuff? |
| 14:35.34 | koen | yes |
| 14:35.48 | chouimat | morning |
| 14:35.52 | koen | http://www.bibblelabs.com/ |
| 14:35.57 | koen | hey chouimat |
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| 14:39.25 | bipolar | good morning chouimat |
| 14:41.32 | bipolar | chouimat: good luck! :) |
| 14:41.48 | bipolar | there is a lot of breakage right now as I understand it. |
| 14:42.17 | bipolar | and the alpha 1 that was released is too old to compile on QT4.3 :P |
| 14:42.29 | chouimat | bipolar: F*CK |
| 14:42.34 | chouimat | sorry ;) |
| 14:42.46 | bipolar | chouimat: try it anyway and report :) |
| 14:43.11 | bipolar | chouimat: Kde doesn't take as long to build as QT does anyway |
| 14:44.02 | chouimat | bipolar: it's why I'm setup to use this on 5 computers http://en.opensuse.org/Icecream |
| 14:45.07 | bipolar | chouimat: hehe... you should be fine then |
| 14:45.18 | koen | polyonymous: don't be afraid to commit WIP recipes for qt 4.3.0 |
| 14:45.27 | Crofton_ | why is gaim now pidgin? |
| 14:45.45 | bipolar | Crofton_: trademark dispute |
| 14:45.54 | bipolar | Crofton_: AIM = AOL |
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| 14:46.35 | chouimat | bipolar: I'm currently thinking of modifying some part of the icecream code (basicly reducing the minimum free memory) so I can add my 2 p200mmx and the slug (just for the fun of it) |
| 14:46.36 | bipolar | Crofton_: aparently there have been discussions between gaim and aol lawyers for a long time before the change. |
| 14:46.46 | Crofton_ | heh |
| 14:46.50 | bipolar | chouimat: hahah |
| 14:46.56 | Crofton_ | AHole |
| 14:47.07 | bipolar | :) |
| 14:47.39 | bipolar | AOhell |
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| 14:54.02 | Crofton | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAE-irJtZnk |
| 14:57.36 | bipolar | Crofton: wow... how... weird |
| 14:57.43 | Crofton | yes |
| 14:57.58 | bipolar | I feel no need to watch it again though.... :P |
| 14:59.29 | Crofton | http://www.balister.org/~balister/embedded_desk.jpg |
| 14:59.34 | Crofton | cleaning out the camera :) |
| 15:00.14 | Crofton | it will be slow, backing up my email through that line also |
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| 15:01.54 | bipolar | Crofton: hehe... the functional rats nest, eh? |
| 15:02.04 | Crofton | sort off |
| 15:02.27 | Crofton | working on getting the efika and the sk to work with the usrp as a software radio |
| 15:02.34 | Crofton | and a few other boards lying around :) |
| 15:03.11 | Crofton | everything with a CPU is running Angstrom |
| 15:04.52 | bipolar | I need to look into angstrom |
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| 15:05.49 | steliosk | dhdbd also fails checksums -> http://rafb.net/p/ZFPMB780.html could someone verify it ? |
| 15:06.03 | steliosk | dhcdbd |
| 15:09.05 | chouimat | http://www.wulffmorgenthaler.com/default.aspx?id=9d42cafc-7f09-4ad6-a0f1-7ab4a2ea1bd0 http://www.wulffmorgenthaler.com/default.aspx?id=0cd110e5-eef0-4ea8-a837-0e26e1c694e4 |
| 15:13.08 | bipolar | Cool... there's an angstrom image for the n800 |
| 15:13.14 | bipolar | I wonder how well it works. |
| 15:13.29 | Crofton | who are the machine mentor/testers? |
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| 15:16.46 | bipolar | Crofton: havn't been able to find out |
| 15:17.10 | Crofton | http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/machine-mentors |
| 15:17.26 | Crofton | Koen is a tester |
| 15:17.33 | bipolar | yeah. no mentors |
| 15:18.06 | bipolar | I wonder how the hardware support is |
| 15:18.29 | bipolar | koen logged off. I'll ask him when he comes back |
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| 16:21.45 | CIA-3 | 03coredump2 07org.oe.dev * ra9a7321b... 10/ (8 files in 3 dirs): |
| 16:21.45 | CIA-3 | wpa-supplicant: Replace /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf with the Debian way to handle WPA: |
| 16:21.45 | CIA-3 | - All configuration is done via /etc/network/interfaces (similiar to WEP) |
| 16:21.45 | CIA-3 | - /etc/init.d/wpa is no longer needed |
| 16:21.45 | CIA-3 | - wpa_supplicant is launched on ifup with the settings from /e/n/interfaces |
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| 16:54.36 | polyonymous | koen|away, I'll commit my first take in a qt-build-time. |
| 16:57.33 | polyonymous | chouimat, do you have buildable qt4? qt4.1 (or whatever that was) failed to build for me. |
| 16:57.58 | chouimat | polyonymous: In OE? no |
| 16:58.02 | polyonymous | ahh ok. |
| 16:58.18 | polyonymous | I asked because if you did, I'd set defpref before comitting. |
| 17:23.59 | CIA-3 | 03polyonymous 07org.oe.dev * r57d4e824... 10/ (1 conf/checksums.ini): conf/checksums.ini: added checksum for qt 4.3.0 |
| 17:24.08 | CIA-3 | 03polyonymous 07org.oe.dev * rb86b0de4... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): uicmoc4-native: bumped version to 4.3.0 |
| 17:24.18 | CIA-3 | 03polyonymous 07org.oe.dev * r1148519c... 10/ (14 files in 4 dirs): qt4-x11: first attempt on 4.3 |
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| 17:51.49 | polyonymous | heh http://www.openembedded.org/viewmtn/diff.psp?id1=b86b0de4d0eae8c130e46f120479500fd847590d&id2=1148519cf275bdcfec2316943f619ee01b72ad0c&fname=packages/qt/qt4-x11-free-4.3.0/0001-cross-compile.patch |
| 17:53.56 | bipolar | polyonymous: :) |
| 17:54.45 | summatusmentis | can someone point me in the right direction http://pastebin.ca/534131 ? |
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| 18:01.50 | Crofton | steliosk, did you get an EFIKA from the dev program? |
| 18:03.29 | summatusmentis | is anyone else having problems building libxml2? |
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| 18:16.07 | Crofton | koen, did you see this? |
| 18:16.08 | Crofton | http://www.balister.org/~balister/embedded_desk.jpg |
| 18:18.45 | Crofton | somewhere in the mess is a software radio transmitter :) |
| 18:18.49 | summatusmentis | Crofton++ |
| 18:19.03 | Crofton | running Angstrom |
| 18:21.17 | koen | summatusmentis: it seems somehow libiconv got built and polluted your staging |
| 18:21.32 | bipolar | koen: how well does Angstrom work on the n800? is the wifi and such suported? |
| 18:21.49 | koen | not very well, not at this moment |
| 18:21.54 | koen | wifi == binary only kernel module |
| 18:21.59 | bipolar | ah, ouch |
| 18:22.15 | koen | Crofton: I managed to capture this today: http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=527754464&size=l |
| 18:22.40 | koen | So it did something related to the bugdays ;) |
| 18:22.53 | Crofton | very cool |
| 18:23.25 | Crofton | honey bee? Hard to tell at that scale |
| 18:23.57 | summatusmentis | koen: I thoiught it needed libiconv.... is there a way to get rid of it? |
| 18:24.27 | koen | summatusmentis: 99% of the programs can use the iconv provided by glibc |
| 18:24.39 | RP | koen: It is possible to recompile the binary module if you have a copy from a live n800... |
| 18:25.02 | RP | Of course distribution of such that module would be rather dubious :/ |
| 18:25.03 | koen | you need to delete the wrong libiconv.so* and iconv.h |
| 18:25.05 | summatusmentis | koen: ok, do I just bitbake -c clean iconv? |
| 18:25.09 | summatusmentis | oh, ok |
| 18:25.11 | RP | morning all btw :) |
| 18:25.22 | bipolar | RP: you mean you can copy the binary, not recomplie it, right? |
| 18:25.27 | koen | good morning RP |
| 18:25.47 | RP | bipolar: You need to recompile bits of it to be exact, like the versioning information |
| 18:25.50 | koen | bipolar: get the binary, mark some symbols as weak and relink (or something close to it) |
| 18:26.07 | RP | I found a way to avoid marking them as weak :) |
| 18:26.22 | bipolar | ah |
| 18:26.23 | bipolar | ok |
| 18:27.57 | RP | ~pastebin |
| 18:28.01 | ibot | from memory, pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or http://rafb.net/paste/, or http://pastebin.com is usually painfully too slow and unresponsive to use, use one of the other pastebin sites, or dpaste.com is a very nice pastebin as well |
| 18:29.33 | RP | bipolar, koen: http://rafb.net/p/OyU8PS44.html |
| 18:31.25 | bipolar | RP: good work :) |
| 18:32.36 | CoreDump|home | LICENSE = "GPL" ;) |
| 18:33.03 | RP | Yes, I'd remove that ;-) |
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| 18:36.50 | summatusmentis | koen: how do I tell which ones are the 'wrong' ones? |
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| 18:51.14 | bipolar | huray for netsplits |
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| 18:54.35 | koen | steeeenking netsplits |
| 18:55.31 | koen | as I was saying, hilarious thread: http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=24113&hl= |
| 19:18.11 | chouimat|nap | http://xkcd.com/c269.html |
| 19:19.02 | koen | chouimat|nap: I want avr32 boards :) |
| 19:19.25 | chouimat|nap | koen me too but need more $$$ before :) |
| 19:19.49 | chouimat|nap | koen I think I will get a PS3 before the avr32 board |
| 19:20.38 | Crofton | yay |
| 19:20.55 | chouimat|nap | koen from qemu commits: One day we might support MIPS16... |
| 19:21.24 | Jin^eLD | PS3... don't remind me... had to add some extra stuff to make their UPnP client imeplementation work with my server |
| 19:21.51 | Jin^eLD | each manufacturer manages to screw up something when it comes to upnp mediarenderer implementation |
| 19:22.18 | Crofton | grrr, this may the end of the laptop power cable .... |
| 19:22.23 | Crofton | off to the lab |
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| 19:37.38 | mmp | koen: do you mean avr-gcc? |
| 19:38.12 | koen | mmp: avr32-gcc sources |
| 19:38.22 | koen | it seems they botched a few uclibc patches |
| 19:39.11 | mmp | ahh, I forgot they already have 32bit architecture:) |
| 19:41.50 | koen | avr32 is almost supported in OE :) |
| 19:42.01 | koen | it gets to gcc-cross and fails |
| 19:42.13 | koen | but you can use gcc-cross-initial to compile stuff |
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| 19:49.55 | mmp | koen: hmm, sounds promising:) I have not heard much about that arch, but seems it might compete ARM? |
| 19:50.10 | mmp | at least market is roughly the same... . |
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| 19:55.01 | koen | mmp: yeah, they claim better performance at lower power |
| 19:55.12 | koen | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVR32 |
| 19:55.44 | mmp | grr, patented ISA |
| 19:55.47 | koen | mmp: their patches have stuff like this: http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/cms/fun-with-vendor-patches |
| 19:56.48 | mmp | but the devboard looks nice:) |
| 19:57.09 | koen | I hope to get the stk1000 soon |
| 19:58.45 | mmp | :) Nice board. |
| 19:59.03 | mmp | Hmm, I wonder if there ever will be some free CPU design for mobile applications... |
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| 19:59.50 | Crofton | ok |
| 19:59.59 | koen | Crofton: power? |
| 20:00.00 | Crofton | Now I have a "more reliable" power cable |
| 20:00.05 | Crofton | yeah |
| 20:00.13 | Crofton | the wires had broken internally |
| 20:00.30 | Crofton | one is on the way, but to much wiggling was needed to keep this one going |
| 20:00.52 | Crofton | So I went in the lab and did a bad solder hack job |
| 20:22.55 | chouimat|nap | koen how much is the stk1000? |
| 20:23.04 | koen | $499 |
| 20:23.12 | koen | the avr32 gateway is $69 |
| 20:23.19 | koen | (USD) |
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| 20:24.10 | chouimat|nap | koen not nad |
| 20:25.11 | koen | libQtCore.so.4.3.0: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, ARM, version 1 (SYSV), not stripped :D |
| 20:25.15 | koen | ~hail polyonymous |
| 20:25.25 | ibot | ACTION bows down to polyonymous and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 20:25.26 | Crofton | enough work |
| 20:25.28 | Crofton | I am going home |
| 20:26.59 | polyonymous | koen, tried to build anything against it yet? I haven't yet. |
| 20:27.07 | koen | it's still buildimg |
| 20:27.20 | koen | does it package the demos? |
| 20:27.32 | polyonymous | I think it does, although I haven't checked all the packages contents. |
| 20:28.28 | polyonymous | koen, http://rafb.net/p/v4kWuH13.html |
| 20:28.30 | koen | btw, evas got some schweet arm speedups in cvs last night |
| 20:29.29 | polyonymous | ah |
| 20:29.42 | polyonymous | | | |-- qmake -> /home/hacker/OE/angstrom/tmp/staging/x86_64-linux/bin/qmake2 ;-) |
| 20:30.11 | polyonymous | not that -dev is of highest importance, but still. |
| 20:34.07 | koen | I usually do somthing like mv ${D}${STAGING}<foo> {D} in do_install_append |
| 20:36.15 | polyonymous | koen, I haven't been doing the .bb from scratch, and I was trying not to touch existing stuff as much as possible. I realize that this may not be the best idea ever, but we're always free to change it :) |
| 20:36.29 | koen | :) |
| 20:41.00 | koen | qt4 takes eons to compile |
| 20:41.13 | polyonymous | yes. |
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| 20:41.30 | polyonymous | so don't compile it on handheld :) |
| 20:41.54 | koen | dual opteron with 2GB of ram and u320 disks? |
| 20:42.11 | polyonymous | is that a handheld specs? :) |
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| 20:42.31 | koen | it has handles :) |
| 20:42.42 | polyonymous | I have amd64x2/2G don't remember what disks, but there wasn't much disk activity. |
| 20:42.58 | polyonymous | and I think it's 4800+ |
| 20:43.38 | polyonymous | cpu MHz : 2210.185 bogomips : 4424.15 |
| 20:43.50 | polyonymous | still takes ages. |
| 20:45.38 | polyonymous | task ~1400 of ~3500. Will take a while till I get to run x11 now. Shouldn't have wiped tmp :) |
| 20:45.46 | chouimat | koen icecream (svn) will help you a lot because it has pch support and it help a lot for qt4.3 :) |
| 20:46.46 | polyonymous | what's icecream? I think gcc has pch and I think qt supports it. The question, though (and a good one), if it's enabled in OE build. |
| 20:46.57 | chouimat | http://en.opensuse.org/Icecream |
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| 20:47.29 | polyonymous | opensuse doesn't sound encouraging, but lemme read. |
| 20:48.17 | polyonymous | ah speaking of distcc, I've been wondering if it's possible to stick it into oe somehow... (I do not see the easy way, though) |
| 20:49.44 | chouimat | polyonymous: oe support icecream |
| 20:49.58 | polyonymous | ah really? Should look into that then. |
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| 21:36.48 | Zero_Chaos | 2361 and 2368 have been ready for commit for almost a week... anyway I could intice someone to handle that? |
| 21:44.03 | polyonymous | a week is not a long time :) Anyway, you need someone with wlan iirc what these bugs are about :) |
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| 21:46.29 | Crofton | Zero_Chaos, I'll prod some of the guys that might be comfortable pushing those in the monring |
| 21:46.35 | Crofton | everyone is asleep now |
| 21:47.03 | Zero_Chaos | Crofton: yeah I know, I don't live in Australia. |
| 21:47.09 | Crofton | heh |
| 21:47.10 | Zero_Chaos | Crofton: it's akward ;-) |
| 21:47.21 | Crofton | most of the more general guys are in EU |
| 21:47.30 | Crofton | where are you? |
| 21:47.51 | Zero_Chaos | USA |
| 21:47.59 | Crofton | whcih time zone? |
| 21:48.02 | Crofton | EDT here |
| 21:48.27 | Zero_Chaos | with our odd time change, I think it is GMT-4, but usually GMT-5 (EST) |
| 21:48.33 | Crofton | ok |
| 21:49.04 | Crofton | I am not familar at all with the bugs |
| 21:49.47 | Zero_Chaos | Crofton: it's not bugs, it's two enhancements for things I am maintainer for, just adding new versions. |
| 21:50.27 | Crofton | I stick pretty much in the OMAP/Efika area |
| 21:50.36 | Crofton | I do not push stuff I can't test |
| 21:51.02 | Zero_Chaos | it's no problem, I was just saying |
| 21:51.12 | Zero_Chaos | apparently no one will push for me any more ;-) |
| 21:51.17 | Crofton | I'll try and pay a little attention |
| 21:51.47 | polyonymous | Zero_Chaos, send me a wlan card and I'll test and push :)) |
| 21:51.50 | Zero_Chaos | no worries. I just get a bit frustrated when I spend a while making cool stuff work and no one ever commits it. |
| 21:51.57 | Zero_Chaos | polyonymous: yeah, sorry but no |
| 21:52.08 | polyonymous | Zero_Chaos, and if you pay shipping I'll even send it back to you :) |
| 21:52.27 | polyonymous | I can come up with more weird ideas if you want me to :)) |
| 21:52.28 | Zero_Chaos | polyonymous: it is actually more complicated than that for Zaurus models ;-) |
| 21:52.41 | polyonymous | whaddyamean? |
| 21:53.00 | Zero_Chaos | polyonymous: it's an unpowered usb port, you need a powered hub or a power injector |
| 21:53.08 | Crofton | well back to house work |
| 21:53.19 | polyonymous | Zero_Chaos, ah, I used cf card. |
| 21:53.43 | polyonymous | in fact, I do have usb wlan, but no active hub. |
| 21:53.45 | Zero_Chaos | polyonymous: for .11g cards you must use usb |
| 21:54.06 | polyonymous | besides, using the usb card would leave my wife with no network :)) |
| 21:54.24 | polyonymous | Well, I'm content with .11b on Z :) |
| 21:54.54 | Zero_Chaos | polyonymous: I'm a wireless network hacker by trade, so content with .11b is not possible |
| 21:57.19 | polyonymous | Zero_Chaos, it's your choice :) |
| 21:58.55 | XorA|gone | Zero_Chaos: zaurus USB is not unpowered |
| 21:59.22 | Zero_Chaos | XorA|gone: 100mA is unpowered |
| 21:59.23 | polyonymous | then it's lowpowered. |
| 21:59.36 | XorA|gone | Zero_Chaos: its enough to run a lot of usb stuff |
| 21:59.56 | Zero_Chaos | XorA|gone: it wouldn't run my thumb drive without added power, that's pretty damn low |
| 22:00.12 | XorA|gone | Zero_Chaos: runs my thumb drive, mouse keyboard, bluetooth |
| 22:00.21 | polyonymous | didn't run my cardreader. |
| 22:00.45 | Zero_Chaos | XorA|gone: I guess all my stuff just needs more power.... point is, it is very low power and 100mA is technically considered unpowered |
| 22:01.07 | polyonymous | you're not going to fight over it, are you? :) |
| 22:01.43 | polyonymous | I made a great suggestion :) |
| 22:03.30 | Zero_Chaos | XorA|gone: ow, my sperm |
| 22:05.28 | Laibsch | XorA|gone: How do I stop cu? Ctrl+c won't do it |
| 22:05.59 | polyonymous | Laibsch, ~. or something like that |
| 22:08.42 | XorA|gone | Laibsch: ~. |
| 22:08.45 | XorA|gone | then ctrl c |
| 22:08.50 | XorA|gone | Laibsch: same as ssh |
| 22:08.53 | Laibsch | Yeah, right. Now that you say it, I remember that I had already looked that up in the man page. Heheh |
| 22:09.04 | polyonymous | XorA|gone, I'd say ssh the same as cu :) |
| 22:09.08 | Laibsch | XorA|gone: ssh reacts to ctrl+c I think |
| 22:09.15 | polyonymous | Laibsch, no way. |
| 22:09.21 | polyonymous | Laibsch, it sends signal to remote. |
| 22:09.57 | Laibsch | ;-) |
| 22:10.06 | Laibsch | I just babble |
| 22:10.17 | polyonymous | that's okay :) |
| 22:11.01 | polyonymous | Running task 2649 of 3597 :-( Guess I won't have my image today. |
| 22:17.07 | XorA|gone | Laibsch: BTW its end of July before Ill see RP |
| 22:21.36 | Laibsch | I thought you would meet at this conference in Scotland or wherever on the island that is going to happen soon |
| 22:21.36 | Laibsch | Guadec? |
| 22:29.48 | XorA|gone | Laibsch: GUADEC is end of July |
| 22:30.55 | Laibsch | Oh, I thought it was much sooner |
| 22:31.04 | RP | I was wondering when I was seeing XorA|gone :) |
| 22:31.06 | polyonymous | time flies by, no worries :) |
| 22:31.42 | XorA|gone | RP: only if I dont see you first :-D |
| 22:32.34 | XorA|gone | Laibsch: if you find out postage I can paypal you the cost |
| 22:34.04 | RP | Laibsch: Same for me, I'm happy to meet that cost |
| 22:34.30 | RP | It should cost the same for me as XorA|gone |
| 22:35.36 | XorA|gone | RP: for next few months anyway, until we crazilly declare independance |
| 22:35.53 | RP | XorA|gone: ;-) |
| 22:35.56 | polyonymous | who's declaring independence from whom? |
| 22:36.56 | RP | polyonymous: Soctland from England ;-) |
| 22:37.17 | polyonymous | that would sound like a missing dependency :) |
| 22:37.45 | polyonymous | living in no mans land sounds very appealing. I love it when there's no men :) |
| 22:38.09 | polyonymous | would you suggest renaming it to 'K? :) |
| 22:39.45 | RP | polyonymous: It doesn't have quite the same ring, does it... |
| 22:40.01 | polyonymous | things change. |
| 22:40.18 | XorA|gone | RP: unlikley luckilly because although the crazies are in charge they are a minority government |
| 22:40.44 | polyonymous | majority is always the worst :) |
| 22:40.47 | XorA|gone | polyonymous: KINGDOM always said in a Mortal Kombat voice |
| 22:40.49 | RP | XorA|gone: Thankfully. It would make no sense at all |
| 22:41.31 | XorA|gone | Laibsch: either that or if you are in amsterdam next week you can hand me them :-) |
| 22:45.04 | polyonymous | 500 tasks to go... |
| 22:45.43 | XorA|gone | anyway sleep time for me |
| 22:45.48 | polyonymous | sleep well, then |
| 22:46.48 | RP | 'night XorA|gone |
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| 23:23.49 | jonsmith1982 | just out of curiousity how would someone go about installing linux onto a pda? would it be re-programmed by the existing software? or would a chip need to be replaced ... etc ? |
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| 23:28.42 | ljp | bootloader needs to be replaced to one that can boot linux |
| 23:35.08 | jonsmith1982 | so it would be the existing software helping you to write the flash-rom(?) to the specifics needed to boot linux? |
