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| 00:06.11 | CIA-3 | initramfs-uniboot: Rename from just initramfs. |
| 00:06.11 | CIA-3 | * Suggested by Koen Kooi. |
| 00:11.23 | nodens | heh... just deleting / recreating /dev/hda1 and resize2fs did the trick |
| 00:11.35 | nodens | didn't need parted for that after all ;) |
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| 07:15.25 | jeff__ | hello I got a quick question about the OE manual |
| 07:16.14 | jeff__ | for some reason I can't access the page "Installation Scripts: Running Scripts during package install and/or removal" which http://www.openembedded.org/user-manual&dpage=recipes_installation_scripts |
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| 07:22.01 | Jon_Bradbury | Philippe : Hi! |
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| 07:34.57 | steliosk | good morning all |
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| 08:07.11 | koen | good morning all |
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| 08:07.48 | SimplyNoName_ | morning koen |
| 08:08.15 | SimplyNoName_ | how is the weather over there in overijssel |
| 08:10.51 | koen | very sunny actually |
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| 08:27.34 | steliosk | ~ping Crofton |
| 08:27.35 | ibot | pong Crofton |
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| 09:07.53 | Readon | how to find which .bb file include gdb into image? |
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| 09:34.03 | jonb | Jon Bradbury is now know as jonb |
| 09:34.35 | jonb | koen : I have installed oe and am building task-base |
| 09:35.07 | jonb | It's taking a long time, as it appears to be downloading loads of stuff. |
| 09:35.25 | koen | it will only download that stuff once |
| 09:35.44 | jonb | Yes, I realise that. It's a bit like make in that regard |
| 09:36.07 | jonb | task-base should give me a 2.6.17 kerkel image? |
| 09:37.06 | jonb | I am using branch org.openembedded.dev |
| 09:37.26 | jonb | (basically following the "Getting Started" instructions in the OE wiki. |
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| 09:39.21 | jonb | Now doing task 192 of 1146 (!) |
| 09:39.26 | koen | bitbake virtual/kernel |
| 09:39.45 | jonb | You mean I don't need task-base? |
| 09:41.25 | jonb | doesn't virtual/kernel give a Zaurus image? Or is it the same as a NBP image? Or does it know it's for the NBP because I specified it in MACHINE in the local.conf? |
| 09:45.12 | steliosk | jonb : virtual/kernel will build toolchain and kernel for the machine you have specified but not a complete filesystem |
| 09:46.06 | CIA-3 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r8d1228f6... 10/ (1 packages/brutefir/brutefir_1.0i.bb): brutefir: depend on all fftw flavours |
| 09:46.12 | steliosk | jonb : to get a filesystem + kernel build in one go you need bitbake angstrom-console-image or angstrom-x11-image |
| 09:47.28 | jonb | Neither of those targets are in org.openembedded.dev/packages/meta. |
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| 09:55.13 | koen | check packages/angstrom and packages/images |
| 09:58.55 | jonb | koen : They are there. I thought all the bbfiles lived in org.openembedded.dev/packages/meta |
| 09:59.07 | jonb | Oh well, it's a learning curve... :) |
| 09:59.24 | jonb | task 247 of 1146.... |
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| 10:58.16 | jonb | I need to talk to Phillipe or florian regarding BooSt on the NetBook Pro. |
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| 11:29.28 | HelloMrWorld | lol |
| 11:29.59 | HelloMrWorld | i cant seem to get my usb stick to work :( keyboard works nice but no usb |
| 11:30.09 | HelloMrWorld | using angstrom |
| 11:30.26 | HelloMrWorld | i see its been scanned successfully using dmesg |
| 11:31.17 | HelloMrWorld | but when i put it into storage mode i get g_file_storage gadget-lun0: unable to open backing file: /dev/hda |
| 11:31.23 | HelloMrWorld | any ideas? |
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| 11:41.26 | B_Lizzard | Hello |
| 11:41.45 | B_Lizzard | Has anyone had any problems with bitbake 1.8 trying to build glibc-intermediate-2.3.2+cvs20040726 for no reason? |
| 11:42.08 | B_Lizzard | I use 1.8 to build an image, but it keeps trying to build glibc-intermediate-2.3.2+cvs20040726 |
| 11:42.38 | woglinde | hm |
| 11:42.38 | woglinde | why this old libc? |
| 11:42.38 | woglinde | angstroem uses 2.5 |
| 11:42.39 | B_Lizzard | I revert (or reverted, before those new sanity tests) to 1.6, and everything worked fine |
| 11:42.39 | B_Lizzard | Yeah |
| 11:42.39 | B_Lizzard | Me too |
| 11:42.43 | woglinde | and this works fine |
| 11:42.54 | B_Lizzard | Another user reported the same problem |
| 11:43.03 | woglinde | beside i havent test it in the last weeks, because I am using uclibc |
| 11:43.05 | B_Lizzard | I wouldn't come to you if I didn't know if it was just me |
| 11:43.08 | B_Lizzard | Aha |
| 11:43.16 | woglinde | hm put in the bugtracker |
| 11:43.17 | woglinde | please |
| 11:43.23 | woglinde | if it isnt already there |
| 11:43.34 | B_Lizzard | I don't know the reason why it does that, but is that OK? |
| 11:43.37 | B_Lizzard | It's not |
| 11:43.38 | woglinde | now guadec is over and rp have some time for this |
| 11:43.49 | woglinde | when it is really a bitbake error |
| 11:44.08 | B_Lizzard | Well, it doesn't happen in 1.6, so I'll guess it's bitbake |
| 11:44.10 | B_Lizzard | 1.8 |
| 11:44.22 | woglinde | no |
| 11:44.27 | woglinde | the recipe can be false |
| 11:44.52 | B_Lizzard | Well, if the recipe was false, then it would happen under 1.6 too, wouldn't it? |
| 11:45.38 | woglinde | not in all cases |
| 11:45.51 | woglinde | can you pastebin the error? |
| 11:46.11 | woglinde | did you try glibc 2.5? |
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| 11:47.30 | B_Lizzard | glibc is already built at full |
| 11:47.40 | B_Lizzard | My toolchain is already set up |
| 11:47.57 | B_Lizzard | It just happens for no apparent reason |
| 11:49.04 | B_Lizzard | Well, there is no error, other than bitbake trying to build the package for no reason (and the package failing to configure, because of gcc, and because it's too old, but that is of no issue). |
| 11:50.15 | HelloMrWorld | which modules do i need to get my usb host working with flash drive? |
| 11:50.26 | HelloMrWorld | at the moment i only have g_ether loaded |
| 11:50.45 | HelloMrWorld | have done usb-gadget storage |
| 11:51.11 | B_Lizzard | !oebug 2671 |
| 11:51.13 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 2671, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-07-21 04:50 |
| 11:51.14 | cdbot2 | * * B_Linuz(AT)yahoo.com: Bitbake 1.8 tries to build glibc-intermediate-2.3.2+cvs20040726 for no apparent reason. |
| 11:51.15 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2671 |
| 11:51.22 | B_Lizzard | :) |
| 11:52.17 | B_Lizzard | These damn new sanity tests do not let me build with bitbake 1.6 |
| 11:54.27 | jonb | You can turn them off I believe |
| 11:55.00 | B_Lizzard | Yeap |
| 11:55.21 | jonb | So what happens when you do? |
| 11:55.58 | woglinde | they arent damned |
| 11:56.20 | B_Lizzard | Well, I comment the BB_MIN_VERSION and everything is fine |
| 11:56.31 | CIA-3 | 03todd 07org.oe.dev * r7d9e3c03... 10/ (1 conf/machine/hx4700.conf): hx4700: prefer version of xserver-kdrive that has w100 support (1.2.0) |
| 11:56.37 | CIA-3 | 03todd 07org.oe.dev * r9312d5d8... 10/ (1 conf/machine/hx4700.conf): disapproval of revision '7d9e3c0371703df6cb39dcdb41d1d9131946eb1e' |
| 11:56.42 | CIA-3 | 03todd 07org.oe.dev * ra5720325... 10/ (1 conf/machine/hx4700.conf): |
| 11:56.42 | CIA-3 | hx4700.conf: prefer version 1.2.0 of xserver-kdrive since that version |
| 11:56.42 | CIA-3 | supports w100. |
| 11:56.48 | CIA-3 | 03todd 07org.oe.dev * r0c6870e8... 10/ (1 conf/machine/hx4700.conf): disapproval of revision 'a57203255798a5084799d04f08eba13dacae3f56' |
| 11:56.52 | B_Lizzard | Well, actually they aren't |
| 11:56.54 | CIA-3 | 03todd 07org.oe.dev * r32975812... 10/ (1 conf/machine/hx4700.conf): hx4700.conf: prefer version 1.2.0 of xserver-kdrive since it supports w100 |
| 11:58.25 | B_Lizzard | I think I couldn't change the mouse button (either with xmodmap or with xmonobut) under 1.2.0 |
| 11:59.18 | B_Lizzard | Maybe it's just on my machine, but test if you can change the mouse buttons under 1.2.0 |
| 11:59.22 | B_Lizzard | It might be a bug |
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| 12:14.30 | jan_js | hi all! |
| 12:15.04 | woglinde | hi jan_js |
| 12:15.35 | jan_js | hi woglinde |
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| 12:20.28 | jan_js | does anybody know what's the status of h3900 in angstrom ? |
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| 12:29.34 | CIA-3 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * re520909b... 10/ (1 packages/jack/jack_0.99.0.bb packages/jack/jack_0.103.0.bb): jack: update to 0.103.0, fix packaging, remove broken 0.99.0 version |
| 12:30.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2672 has been created by jstoefer(AT)schuett-elektronik.de |
| 12:30.06 | cdbot2 | * * angstrom-x11-image does not boot on h3850 |
| 12:30.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2672 |
| 12:32.58 | Readon | how to find which .bb file include gdb into image? |
| 12:33.04 | Readon | how to find which .bb file include gdb into image? |
| 12:36.53 | woglinde | readon run bitbake with -g |
| 12:36.59 | woglinde | and look in depends.dot |
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| 12:39.56 | jan_js | psokolovsky_: I have read on the angstrom site that you are machine mentor for h3900 - do you know wether an x11 image can be built already ? |
| 12:44.04 | zecke | moin! |
| 12:44.20 | woglinde | moin zecke |
| 12:45.18 | B_Lizzard | Is pidgin supposed to use nspr.h? |
| 12:45.30 | B_Lizzard | r0 didn't, but r1 uses it |
| 12:45.34 | B_Lizzard | For some reason |
| 12:46.22 | B_Lizzard | Specifically, the ssl-nss plugin uses it |
| 12:46.37 | B_Lizzard | But the version is still at 2.0.2 |
| 12:48.55 | mickeyl | hey zezom |
| 12:48.57 | mickeyl | ups |
| 12:49.02 | mickeyl | ~lart tab completion |
| 12:49.02 | ibot | puts on a hockey mask and jumps out at tab completion |
| 12:49.06 | mickeyl | hey zecke |
| 12:52.56 | koen | hey mickeyl |
| 12:53.18 | koen | mickeyl: could you respond to my reply to todd about X guis? |
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| 12:54.33 | woglinde | moin koen |
| 12:55.19 | koen | hey woglinde |
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| 12:57.57 | mickeyl | yo koen. sure, once i have read it, i'll do |
| 12:58.04 | Readon | woglinde, it is very strange that i didn't find any dependency on gdb, but it is included in my images,why? |
| 12:58.18 | woglinde | readon???? |
| 12:58.24 | woglinde | did you grep the file? |
| 12:58.34 | woglinde | aor tasks-depend.dot? |
| 12:58.52 | Readon | yes |
| 12:58.57 | koen | mickeyl: thanks |
| 12:59.08 | koen | Readon: grep -r is your friend |
| 12:59.13 | B_Lizzard | Pidgin 2.0.2-r1 gives me a CROSS COMPILE Badness when it tries to use /usr/include/mozilla-1.7.12/nss (which doesn't even exist) for ssl-nss.c, does anyone else get that? |
| 12:59.32 | B_Lizzard | It didn't do that in 2.0.2-r0, so I'm guessing something changed in the bb file |
| 12:59.47 | Readon | woglinde, i do it, it's all about gdbm but gdb |
| 13:00.13 | Readon | koen, do you mean grep -r gdb *, to find it by myself? |
| 13:00.25 | koen | Readon: yes |
| 13:00.33 | koen | it gave me the answer in 2 seconds |
| 13:01.17 | Readon | koen,perhaps it contains the info about gdbm. that is huge number |
| 13:03.20 | mickeyl | koen: you're back home? |
| 13:03.50 | B_Lizzard | I see that the update only changed jabber to xmpp |
| 13:05.54 | koen | mickeyl: yes |
| 13:06.13 | mickeyl | koen: had a chance to see the clutter foo talk? |
| 13:06.17 | koen | yes |
| 13:06.19 | koen | it rocked |
| 13:06.28 | mickeyl | cool. was it taped? |
| 13:07.56 | koen | yes |
| 13:08.13 | mickeyl | excellent. |
| 13:08.46 | koen | we need to work on the press release about GMAE using an OE powered buildsystem |
| 13:08.56 | koen | "eat that, scratchbox!" |
| 13:09.50 | mickeyl | haha |
| 13:09.51 | mickeyl | yeah |
| 13:10.03 | koen | mickeyl: it's clear now that both nokia and google are doing a linux phone |
| 13:10.22 | koen | hence all the badmouthing of openmoko from the nokia folks |
| 13:10.32 | mickeyl | i think so, too |
| 13:10.44 | mickeyl | i just hope it'll take them long enough for us to rock |
| 13:10.56 | mickeyl | then again, they probably won't beat our degree of freedom |
| 13:11.06 | koen | that's for sure |
| 13:11.50 | koen | can someone introduce harald and werner to the 21st century? |
| 13:12.16 | mickeyl | koen: probably not. however, I think they wouldn't mind a libgsmd-dbus |
| 13:12.19 | zecke | 21st century and posix is still around :) |
| 13:12.58 | koen | mickeyl: when libgsmd-dbus happens only 2 people will use the socket: harald and werner :) |
| 13:13.16 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 13:13.20 | mickeyl | yeah |
| 13:13.29 | mickeyl | harald is a dependency mania |
| 13:13.30 | mickeyl | c |
| 13:13.46 | mickeyl | noone can't change that |
| 13:13.52 | koen | "I make the software fragile just to avoid dbus" type of maniac? |
| 13:14.11 | mickeyl | no. more like "dbus introduces too many dependencies" |
| 13:14.13 | zecke | koen: dbus needing a magic printf to not crash is a good argument against it :) |
| 13:14.53 | koen | you can remove that printf nowadays |
| 13:15.20 | Crofton | google teaming with Nokia for Linux phone? |
| 13:15.29 | koen | Crofton: no, 2 seperate things |
| 13:15.32 | koen | AFAIK |
| 13:15.35 | Crofton | interesting |
| 13:15.46 | zecke | WebKit, WebKit, WebKit :) |
| 13:16.03 | koen | zecke: there was a big webkit buz at guadec |
| 13:16.37 | koen | Crofton: I suspect your ossie recipes need to depend on fftwf now |
| 13:17.19 | koen | since you were using libfftw3f instead of libfftw3 |
| 13:22.05 | koen | zecke|shopping: http://www.gnome.org/mobile/, bottom line |
| 13:23.56 | jonb | koen : Am still building task-base! |
| 13:25.28 | jonb | koen : But even if it completes in my lifetime and I do virtual/kernel, it will still produce the same zImage that is in the unstable images area. So I won't have achieved much, because those zImages wont decompress on the NBP. |
| 13:26.21 | jonb | ken : The bootloader complains : "Load error, zlib inflate failed!" |
| 13:28.46 | jonb | koen : It's got to be something about the way the nand filesystem is partitioned. I am using the following commands in the nbkpro.img boot script |
| 13:28.51 | jonb | nand -ignore erase 18 7e8 |
| 13:29.11 | jonb | nand partition e8 |
| 13:30.17 | jonb | ..but since I have no idea what these are actually doing (or the other commands I've seen in some of the Psion images), I don't know how to debug it. Some one, somewhere, must have some documentation on BooSt! |
| 13:31.08 | koen | yes, florian and philippe |
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| 13:51.35 | koen | mickeyl: do you like avahi? |
| 13:51.56 | mickeyl | koen: what i've seen, it's amazing. no practical experience yet though |
| 13:52.05 | jonb | koen : how can I get a message to them? |
| 13:52.13 | koen | mickeyl: btw, liam is going to talk to lennart about replacing alsa-states with pulseaudio |
| 13:52.30 | koen | jonb: florian.boor@kernelconcepts.de |
| 13:52.51 | mickeyl | koen: oh that would be handy. so that we could control the alsa scenarios via pulse? |
| 13:52.59 | koen | yes |
| 13:53.02 | mickeyl | great! |
| 13:54.00 | koen | XorA explained to the X dudes that ts and screen don't have to match up |
| 13:54.09 | koen | so X might get saner in the future :) |
| 13:54.36 | mickeyl | that would be nice |
| 13:57.13 | koen | mickeyl: the intel dude that offered hardware just sent a python question to oe-devel :) |
| 13:58.27 | mickeyl | ah, hat's him. so i might try to answer? |
| 13:58.43 | koen | XorA|gone: bastard! |
| 13:59.19 | mickeyl | koen: I'm surprised it isn't enabled anyway. let me rebuild the current kit and check |
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| 14:00.11 | mickeyl | bbiab, need to brew a Roiboos Vanilla Tea |
| 14:01.05 | koen | rooibos presumably? |
| 14:01.28 | koen | (redwood) |
| 14:02.21 | jonb | koen : eMail sent to florian. Hope it doesn't sound too desparate. |
| 14:03.33 | jonb | koen : need to find out why the images fail on zlib inflate too - any ideas? |
| 14:03.47 | koen | no, sorry |
| 14:04.44 | jonb | koen : have you got any other boot files for the NBK lying around that I could look at? |
| 14:05.13 | koen | no, I showed all the secret locations already :) |
| 14:05.32 | jonb | how did you get e17 running then? |
| 14:05.51 | koen | make a chroot on microdrive and install openzaurus |
| 14:06.47 | jonb | did you use the same kernel image as the (working) gpe install in ~anonymous? |
| 14:07.22 | koen | iirc, yes |
| 14:07.55 | jonb | have you still got the files? I don't yet know how to do what you did. |
| 14:08.40 | koen | I put some files on cf and it started flashing by itself |
| 14:08.52 | koen | I followed the instructions florian gave me |
| 14:09.22 | jonb | can you send me copies |
| 14:09.37 | koen | I don't have copies :( |
| 14:09.41 | koen | irc conversation |
| 14:10.03 | jonb | Ah. so the cf disk is lost too? |
| 14:10.58 | jonb | drop me an email at the dr_zee address. |
| 14:11.20 | jonb | pretty please |
| 14:11.30 | koen | http://www.flickr.com/photos/koenkooi/864716684/in/photostream/ |
| 14:15.16 | jonb | nice picture of some IT guys |
| 14:26.09 | jonb | koen : Hey! The biuild (base-tasks) completed with no errors! Who-hoo! |
| 14:26.46 | jonb | koen : now for virtual/kernel |
| 14:27.23 | jonb | koen : YES! It's completed! |
| 14:34.40 | jonb | koen : I have generated zImage-2.6.17-netbook-pro-20070721142628 |
| 14:39.09 | XorA|gone | ~lart ISP |
| 14:39.09 | ibot | strangles ISP with a doohicky mouse cord |
| 14:40.26 | Readon | still can't find which packages included gdb in.Does bitbake would rebuild the image, doesn't it? |
| 14:42.20 | CIA-3 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rbf4d3cbe... 10/ (32 files in 2 dirs): efl: next round of updates / cleanups |
| 14:42.28 | CIA-3 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r68b677cc... 10/ (1 classes/efl1.bbclass): efl.bbclass: update snapshot date |
| 14:42.33 | CIA-3 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r486c22df... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): python: add subpackage python-debugger including pdb.py* and bdb.py* |
| 14:42.58 | mickey|tea | koen: r486c22df should help Mark Gross. I responded via ml as well. |
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| 14:43.32 | jonb | koen : the new image won't inflate on the Pro. Can I make it non compressed? |
| 14:44.54 | Readon | when i rebuild angstrom with DISTRO_TYPE='release' but gdb strace tslib-cal etc, are still included in images, is that a bug of angstrom or bitbake? |
| 14:47.31 | jonb | How do you tell OE to create an image that's not zimage (ie, not compressed)? |
| 14:56.02 | Readon | you mean kernel? |
| 14:56.51 | jonb | Readon : yes. I have the option to not uncompress the image on the target machine - and the zimage OE is creating will not work with the machine |
| 14:58.04 | jonb | Have tried to decompress by renaming zimage to zimage.gz and using gzip, but it doesn't recognise the file type |
| 15:00.14 | Readon | i don't know, i think zImage file need not compressed yourself, it would uncompressed itself. |
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| 15:03.59 | koen | mickeyl: |
| 15:04.01 | koen | ---enable-software-16-x11\ |
| 15:04.02 | koen | +--disable-software-16-x11\ |
| 15:04.08 | koen | mickeyl: is that intentional? |
| 15:05.22 | jonb | Readon : the problem is it is failing to uncompress on the target machine, so I thought it might be an idea to try an umcompressed image instead (and tell the target not to decompress it) |
| 15:05.46 | koen | jonb: 'make Image' in the kernel source tree should do that |
| 15:06.04 | Readon | do you think you have enough space for that? |
| 15:06.13 | Readon | i met that before |
| 15:07.10 | Readon | the code build zImage is very stable. |
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| 15:12.12 | jonb | koen : I don't know where the kernel source is in this BitBake environment |
| 15:12.53 | zecke | jonb: the only source you are likely to find is patches against a tarball |
| 15:13.30 | jonb | if it's compressed it must be possible to UNcompress it |
| 15:14.04 | zecke | jonb: I just joined so I don't know the context |
| 15:14.21 | zecke | jonb: but in the OE metadata (not BitBake environment) you have a .bb file that can build a linux kernel |
| 15:14.45 | zecke | jonb: this .bb file says from where to get the source tarball, e.g. ftp.kernel.org and then can add a couple of patches to it |
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| 15:15.15 | jonb | zecke : what's the bitbake target name? |
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| 15:17.23 | zecke | jonb: virtual/kernel, will select the kernel for your MACHINR |
| 15:17.46 | mickeyl | koen: yes, software-x16 is broken in the snapshot. the snapshots are not up to par anyways. I'm going to move to cvs builds again and add a respective set of known good SRCDATES. |
| 15:17.49 | zecke | jonb: use -g to get a graph or -v (+ dry run) to see which PROVIER gets selected |
| 15:17.50 | zecke | brb |
| 15:17.54 | jonb | That's the one I just built. It gave me a zimage |
| 15:18.20 | mickeyl | koen: there's a whole lot of new things coming in EFL. it makes no sense (right now) to use random snapshots until they're really releases. |
| 15:18.47 | Readon | when i rebuild angstrom with DISTRO_TYPE='release' but gdb strace tslib-cal etc, are still included in images, is that a bug of angstrom or bitbake? |
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| 15:25.11 | jonb | Philippe : are you here? |
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| 15:29.34 | chouimat | morning |
| 15:32.29 | Readon | is it normal that log.image_cmd files contains a line like ./usr/bin/[[ |
| 15:32.51 | Readon | i think [[ file is a symbol of bug. |
| 15:34.05 | koen | mickeyl: are their any usefull targets people can build and test to see if EFL is working? |
| 15:35.00 | mickeyl | koen: yes. exhibit is a pretty useful picture viewer |
| 15:35.06 | koen | ok |
| 15:35.20 | koen | did you enable insane.bbclass on your buildmachine? |
| 15:35.27 | mickeyl | i'm committing the new cvs stuff later tonite |
| 15:35.33 | mickeyl | yes :) |
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| 15:38.47 | koen | mickeyl: when is the new o-hand openmoko stuff going to get merged? |
| 15:38.54 | koen | it's "after guadec" now :) |
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| 15:40.40 | mickeyl | koen: hehe. always pushing :) no idea offhand, I'm going to call them early next week. |
| 15:40.56 | mickeyl | personally I want it before the end of this month |
| 15:41.13 | koen | the o-hand gang told me to ask you for details :) |
| 15:41.15 | mickeyl | so that those who get shipped a neo can already get the new stuff |
| 15:41.30 | mickeyl | koen: hehe, ok. i'm going to write them tomorrow. |
| 15:41.37 | koen | I guess openmoko won't switch EABI now? |
| 15:41.38 | mickeyl | we also need to write an announcement |
| 15:41.49 | mickeyl | koen: why not? |
| 15:42.20 | mickeyl | koen: I want to switch a) to the new stuff b) to org.openembedded.dev c) to include angstrom.inc -- all at the same time |
| 15:42.36 | mickeyl | which is hopefully by the end of this month |
| 15:43.29 | koen | ah, cool |
| 15:43.35 | koen | shout when you need a hand |
| 15:43.50 | koen | only boring books to read the next 3 weeks |
| 15:45.42 | mickeyl | yeah, definitely need some help. thanks! |
| 15:49.33 | Readon | at last, i think i find a bug of bitbake |
| 15:49.49 | Readon | where can i submit it? |
| 15:50.11 | mickeyl | bugs.openembedded.org |
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| 15:53.39 | Readon | i cann't write one does any one can give me a hand? |
| 15:54.54 | Readon | it seems that task-distro-base task was not recalculated after conf file was modified and the images was rebuilt. |
| 15:56.26 | mickeyl | i wouldn't count that as a bug. you need to bump the PR of a task if you want it to be recomputed |
| 15:56.36 | mickeyl | or do bitbake -c rebuild explicitly |
| 15:56.45 | mickeyl | it's a minor annoyance, but not a bug (imho) |
| 15:57.07 | Readon | it would recalculate itself |
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| 16:02.52 | psycoman | im trying built openbox natively but i got this error |
| 16:02.54 | psycoman | /bin/sed: can't read /data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/work/armv5te-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/glib-2.0-2.12.12-r2/glib-2.12.12/glib/libglib-2.0.la: No such file or directory |
| 16:03.19 | psycoman | if my libglib-2.0 is in /usr/lib, why sed tr get it in this directory ? |
| 16:03.30 | psycoman | s/tr/try |
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| 16:07.12 | Readon | mickeyl, it is a bug, i think. i tried -c rebuild , it does not work. |
| 16:09.02 | Readon | i must use bitbake -c clean task-distro-base;bitbake angstrom_xxx_image. |
| 16:09.20 | koen | so rebuild does work, but you are using it wrong |
| 16:09.56 | Readon | koen, no,the correct is been tested before test rebuild |
| 16:10.09 | koen | no |
| 16:10.24 | Readon | you can try by yourself |
| 16:10.28 | koen | I did |
| 16:10.49 | koen | and if you want to disagree with 2 core developers go ahead, but don't do it in this channel |
| 16:11.16 | Readon | are you using 1.8.6 release? |
| 16:11.37 | koen | [17:10] koen: and if you want to disagree with 2 core developers go ahead, but don't do it in this channel |
| 16:11.50 | mickeyl | yes, 1.8.6 here |
| 16:13.54 | Readon | i just want it to be better. |
| 16:15.13 | psycoman | koen: can you give me a little help with my native compilation ? |
| 16:27.59 | psycoman | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:37.57 | zecke | Readon: ast to recalculation. Would you be willing to take a +5 minute speed penalty to get this? |
| 16:38.56 | Readon | but this would make a mistake when conf has been modified. |
| 16:39.36 | zecke | Readon: could you please rephrase the sentence I don't understand what you try to say |
| 16:39.36 | Readon | i meet this on different machine. |
| 16:41.31 | Readon | zecke: i write a text file for everything need to be known. |
| 16:41.57 | zecke | I don't understand what your problem/concern is... anyway have fun |
| 16:43.00 | Readon | i mean i modified conf/distro/angstromxxx.conf file, but images not act as what i specific |
| 16:43.58 | Readon | that might be caused by bitbake who did not recalculate depends of task-distro-base. |
| 16:44.21 | zecke | Readon: BitBake could implement tracking every var. This would require +500MB of data and +5 minutes on each run to check differences. Are you willing to take such a penalty? |
| 16:45.22 | zecke | Readon: it would be easily to implement with O(n^2) (n number of lines of each bb file), you might try to implement it :) |
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| 16:45.41 | koen | zecke: don't wast your time, mickeyl told him it's not a bitbake problem, since bitbake doesn't know about ipkgs in staging, but mr readon knows better than us |
| 16:45.58 | koen | s/staging/deploy/ |
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| 16:50.02 | psokolovsky_ | what we need to do is write "advanced faq" for bitbake, so people understand that the choices are no arbitrary, but essentially result of many compromises, i.e. the only realistic way to have stuff done |
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| 16:56.44 | Readon | here it is. http://bugs.openembedded.org/attachment.cgi?id=1749 |
| 16:58.32 | koen | I only see someone ignoring advice in that log |
| 16:59.40 | mickeyl | in any case, lets clarify whether there is a problem or not through this bug entry |
| 16:59.50 | mickeyl | it might as well be a feature request |
| 17:00.41 | psokolovsky_ | Noone yet told "that's by design", so let me to it. |
| 17:00.54 | mickeyl | heh, k |
| 17:01.08 | psokolovsky_ | Also, "users should not modify anything except local.conf" |
| 17:01.36 | psokolovsky_ | modifying a distro confif w/o knowing how all that stuff works will lead to unexpected results |
| 17:05.22 | koen | "if you change the resulting package, bump PR or rebuild" |
| 17:05.45 | koen | bumping PR and rebuilding have been suggested multiple times |
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| 17:09.19 | psokolovsky_ | the guy doesn't understand why that should be done, so such suggestions are empty words for him. that means that folks who really need to do that, should find explanation of the issues involved, and the rest kept away from doing at all ;-) |
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| 17:10.36 | XorA|gone | I would technically be possible to do a SHASUM of env after *.conf is read, and get some .bb files eg tasks to auto rebuild when this SHASUM changes |
| 17:10.58 | md401 | sorry if this is the wrong place: I've built a root filesystem for my asus730 and written it to an SD card, now what's the correct root= paramater to give the kernel? |
| 17:11.34 | koen | lmm: root=mmcblk0p1 rootdelay=10 |
| 17:11.41 | lmm | thanks |
| 17:11.56 | XorA|gone | lmm: not kernel 2.6.22 I hope |
| 17:12.45 | lmm | XorA|gone: no, 2.6.21-hh12 |
| 17:13.58 | Readon | ok i got it, that is my fault, how to remove the entry? |
| 17:14.16 | koen | bitbake -c rebuild task-base |
| 17:14.49 | psokolovsky_ | XorA|gone, koen: think distributed development, think package upgrade paths. adding any automation into that risky stuff. unless of course we go same way as distributed SCMs went: hashes as PRs |
| 17:15.11 | psokolovsky_ | but that doesn't solve upgrade path problem - there's no history, like in SCM |
| 17:16.12 | XorA|gone | psokolovsky_: Feed ideas into bug tracker, familly is round and I got to go socialise, this is an issue proper discussion is worth, as Readon is the 10,000 person to ask the same questions |
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| 17:16.38 | woglinde | bye xora |
| 17:16.41 | woglinde | have fun |
| 17:17.03 | koen | psokolovsky_: actually the current situation is the wanted behaviour |
| 17:17.22 | psokolovsky_ | XorA|gone: imho, it will be wprth discussion in next year ;-). so far, we just coming to revamp OE to work properly at all ;-) |
| 17:17.28 | koen | psokolovsky_: the 'r0' package has the same contents as any other 'r0' package out there |
| 17:17.50 | lmm | how do I stop wince reformatting my SD card when I stick it in, or don't I? |
| 17:17.51 | koen | people wanting different contents in the _same_ package should be taken out and shot |
| 17:17.56 | psokolovsky_ | koen: exactly, that's to what I came after long thinking too ;-). now, need to PR (another PR) that to the masses ;-) |
| 17:18.29 | koen | lmm: create a small fat partition on p1, move linux to p2, change root to mmcblk0p2 |
| 17:18.41 | lmm | koen: thanks |
| 17:19.36 | polyonymous_ | small, but fat :) |
| 17:37.52 | lmm | hmm, it's hanging at init |
| 17:38.59 | lmm | is this likely to have been caused by enabling the iwmmxt optimisations? |
| 17:40.04 | flyback- | mmm |
| 17:40.07 | flyback- | iwmmxt :) |
| 17:40.24 | flyback- | wish I could solve the problem with my clock getting canucked |
| 17:40.28 | flyback- | when I reset out of linux/oe |
| 17:40.37 | flyback- | on my palm t5 but I am sure a fix will come in the near future |
| 17:41.01 | flyback- | is there any test apps in opie or a standard way of running a fully charged t5 battery down |
| 17:41.08 | flyback- | to get a rough idea what my average battery lifespan is |
| 17:41.15 | flyback- | I can't tell if the battery is worn or what |
| 17:41.37 | flyback- | I know this, after the nightmare I had last time just resoldering the existing battery leads to the t5 mb |
| 17:41.46 | flyback- | when I change the battery I am putting a socket on the mb |
| 17:41.57 | flyback- | I just need to find a very low low profile socket |
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| 18:48.36 | koen | NOTE: package gtk+-2.10.14-r0: task do_configure: started |
| 18:49.13 | woglinde | hm how that? |
| 18:49.19 | woglinde | args |
| 18:49.21 | woglinde | food foot |
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| 19:32.24 | woglinde | hehe |
| 19:32.27 | woglinde | koen |
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| 20:47.01 | koen | hmmm |
| 20:47.09 | koen | I wanted to ask mickeyl something |
| 20:47.14 | koen | but I forgot what |
| 20:48.35 | zecke | koen: "Mickey, do you want to marry me?" |
| 20:49.21 | koen | could be :) |
| 20:49.36 | mickeyl | sorry, promiscuity is not allowed where i live |
| 20:49.51 | Crofton | your wife forbids it? |
| 20:49.55 | mickeyl | hahaha |
| 20:49.56 | mickeyl | yeah |
| 20:49.56 | mickeyl | :D |
| 21:05.47 | zecke | mickeyl: koen: RP: are we going to invite tf again? |
| 21:05.56 | mickeyl | zecke: absolutely |
| 21:05.57 | koen | yes |
| 21:06.06 | koen | (we already did) |
| 21:07.25 | mickeyl | i think tf brings some fresh blood |
| 21:07.26 | zecke | okay will get a http://www.rikscha-mobil.de/ so tf hasn't to walk :) |
| 21:07.30 | mickeyl | hahaha |
| 21:07.31 | mickeyl | yeah |
| 21:07.39 | mickeyl | he still remembers that walk |
| 21:07.43 | mickeyl | i asked him @ guadec |
| 21:07.49 | mickeyl | and he's looking forward to the next |
| 21:09.21 | mickeyl | NOTE: the following files were installed but not shipped in any package: |
| 21:09.21 | mickeyl | NOTE: /home/pkg/oe/fic-gta01/tmp/staging/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/share/ewl/examples/ewl_pdf.c |
| 21:09.21 | mickeyl | NOTE: /home/pkg/oe/fic-gta01/tmp/staging/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/lib/ewl/tests/libewl_pdf.so.0 |
| 21:09.21 | mickeyl | NOTE: /home/pkg/oe/fic-gta01/tmp/staging/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/lib/ewl/tests/libewl_pdf.so |
| 21:09.26 | mickeyl | hmmm |
| 21:09.29 | mickeyl | installed into staging...? |
| 21:09.31 | mickeyl | that doesn't look right |
| 21:13.19 | ljp | touchscreen does seem to work on n800 |
| 21:14.59 | ljp | err.. does not seem, that is |
| 21:16.27 | koen | mickeyl: efl stuff used to give out really weird messages like that |
| 21:16.36 | koen | mickeyl: and I used to blame binconfig and bad code |
| 21:17.22 | koen | drat, pavelm just came online |
| 21:18.05 | woglinde | *g* |
| 21:18.08 | koen | ljp: but it boots? |
| 21:19.06 | koen | it's not hard to figure out why suspend on x86 is broken since pavelm wrote it |
| 21:19.40 | mickeyl | koen: found it. this time it's a problem in EPDF installing right into the directories it gets from pkg-config as opposed to only using a suffix |
| 21:19.43 | mickeyl | or prefix |
| 21:20.19 | koen | mickeyl: tf promised to look into the poppler stuff this week |
| 21:20.26 | mickeyl | koen: ok, cool |
| 21:29.31 | mickeyl | ok, it's like that |
| 21:29.31 | mickeyl | in configure.in they have |
| 21:29.31 | mickeyl | EWL_TEST_LIBS_DIR="`$PKG_CONFIG --variable=testsdir ewl`" |
| 21:29.33 | mickeyl | and then they use this dir to install additional stuff to |
| 21:29.45 | mickeyl | thanks to our pkg-config sed'ing this dir points to the staging area |
| 21:29.48 | mickeyl | how to fix this path to point to ${prefix}/foo/bar ? |
| 21:29.55 | mickeyl | s/path/test/ |
| 21:31.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2674 has been created by lorn.potter(AT)gmail.com |
| 21:31.06 | cdbot2 | * * touchscreen on nokia 800 not working |
| 21:31.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2674 |
| 21:33.58 | flo_lap | hi all |
| 21:41.57 | ljp | koen: the 20070711 image does boot. |
| 21:43.35 | ljp | starting a build |
| 21:45.00 | woglinde | hi florian |
| 21:46.28 | zecke | mickeyl: it is wrong to use pkg-config for getting this dir |
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| 22:06.13 | mickeyl | zecke: i dunno. me no expert in autofoo. i just know that it doesn't work together with the way we "correct" paths in foo.pc to point to staging |
| 22:06.29 | mickeyl | perhaps we should "correct" not all paths unconditionally |
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| 22:18.40 | kergoth | zecke, not necessarily. if it's asking pkg-config for "installed" paths, then its entirely valid for it to assume those are indeed correct paths for the target. arguably we'd use "uninstalled" .pc's for staging, but with the .libs/ crap hacked out? i dunno |
| 22:18.42 | kergoth | heh |
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| 22:20.31 | woglinde | hi kergoth |
| 22:22.38 | zecke | kergoth: a) the .pc are 'uninstalled' just like the .la files b) it trades --prefix of autoconf vs. some .pc value (pc does not mean political correct...) |
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| 22:23.59 | jan_js | good evening evryone here |
| 22:24.08 | zecke | hi |
| 22:24.08 | woglinde | hi jan_js |
| 22:24.41 | jan_js | you know I allways come with questions, don't you ? |
| 22:24.50 | woglinde | hihi |
| 22:24.52 | woglinde | ask |
| 22:25.25 | kergoth | i dont think you see what i'm saying. if we were to put foo.pc and foo-uninstalled.pc in both in staging, and only mangle uninstalled, and that PKG_CONFIG call were to use PKG_CONFIG_DISABLE_UNINSTALLED, then the paths would be correct.. i'm not saying thats the best solution, just throwing it out as a possibility.. i havent seen oe's pc stuff in a while. |
| 22:26.05 | jan_js | I still wander wether it is possible to build images for h3900, because there is no directory in the angstrom download area. |
| 22:26.19 | woglinde | ???? |
| 22:26.21 | jan_js | I have allready built a minimal image so far. |
| 22:26.39 | zecke | kergoth: you are right on both points. But I believe it should honor --prefix of autoconf more than a random .pc file :) |
| 22:27.19 | jan_js | there are images for h3800 and even for h3600, but not for h3900 |
| 22:28.20 | jan_js | o.k., maybee not so important - I willl just try to build them. |
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| 22:48.16 | psycoman | some one can point a good place to read about native compilation in zaurus/agnstrom ? |
| 22:48.51 | zecke | psycoman: just a wild guess, openzaurus.org? |
| 22:48.59 | zecke | psycoman: the package names of the toolchain should not have cnaged |
| 22:49.02 | zecke | changed even |
| 22:49.28 | psycoman | i think my problem is bigger than toolchain names |
| 22:49.42 | psycoman | i will past here my problem |
| 22:49.47 | zecke | not here! |
| 22:49.49 | zecke | ~pastebin |
| 22:49.51 | ibot | [pastebin] a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or http://rafb.net/paste/, or http://pastebin.com is usually painfully too slow and unresponsive to use, use one of the other pastebin sites, or dpaste.com is a very nice pastebin as well |
| 22:49.52 | psycoman | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:49.59 | psycoman | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:50.02 | psycoman | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:50.03 | zecke | :) |
| 22:50.12 | psycoman | one line can be here rigth ? |
| 22:50.24 | psycoman | /bin/sed: can't read /data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/work/armv5te-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/glib-2.0-2.12.12-r2/glib-2.12.12/glib/libglib-2.0.la: No such file or directory |
| 22:50.31 | psycoman | my problem |
| 22:50.44 | zecke | psycoman: I can clearly see it you != koen |
| 22:51.02 | psycoman | why ? |
| 22:51.11 | zecke | psycoman: sorry, just a bad joke |
| 22:51.25 | zecke | psycoman: what is the file pointing to the .la file? |
| 22:51.38 | psycoman | my qustion |
| 22:51.53 | psycoman | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:52.00 | psycoman | if the file is in /usr/lib |
| 22:52.26 | zecke | psycoman: well, I think libtool is doing that but you don#t have enough context in your one line |
| 22:52.27 | polyonymous | sounds like koen sneaked into .ipk :) |
| 22:52.47 | zecke | psycoman: there is one .la file pointing to /data/build/.... it would be nice to know the name of that file |
| 22:53.01 | zecke | psycoman: and then you can look into packaging of the package that installs this file |
| 22:53.05 | polyonymous | I'd guess it's glib? |
| 22:53.30 | zecke | polyonymous: well, if glib is present why should it say it is in /data/build? |
| 22:53.40 | psycoman | but the glib in /usr/lib is not a symlink |
| 22:53.48 | polyonymous | zecke, umm.. I think I'm wrong |
| 22:53.55 | zecke | psycoman: stop talking, start greping? |
| 22:54.31 | psycoman | oka |
| 22:55.06 | polyonymous | grep -rl /home/ ~/OE/angstrom/tmp/work/armv5te-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/*/install/*/usr/lib/*.la - gives heck of a lot of stuff :) |
| 22:55.32 | zecke | mumbls something about disabled insanity checker regarding INSTALLED=yes in .la files |
| 22:55.46 | psycoman | one point |
| 22:55.54 | psycoman | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:56.03 | psycoman | not in my desktop with oe builder |
| 22:56.04 | polyonymous | I was just about to ask about insanity... |
| 22:56.06 | zecke | psycoman: stop taling, start greping on your zaurus :) |
| 22:56.12 | psycoman | xD |
| 22:56.43 | zecke | polyonymous: it doesn't know which .la files got installed and greps everything (e.g. .la files installed by libtool in share) |
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| 22:57.05 | zecke | polyonymous: some one need to add some dirs to a black list and the reports should be meaningful |
| 22:57.24 | polyonymous | zecke, what greps everything? |
| 22:57.29 | thesing | hi everybody |
| 22:57.54 | zecke | polyonymous: the insanity check for .la files is searching in the whole STAGING_LIBDIR |
| 22:58.08 | polyonymous | zecke, well, we're not dealing with staging here... |
| 22:58.20 | zecke | polyonymous: sure we do :) |
| 22:58.39 | zecke | polyonymous: some one is linking against glib, and glib.la says it is INSTALLED |
| 22:58.42 | polyonymous | no, we're well past staging, we're in ipks now |
| 22:59.09 | polyonymous | no, the problem is that we have workdir (not even staging, heh) in .la that is packaged. |
| 22:59.10 | zecke | polyonymous: and then the -dev packages points to the installed (in the staging area) glib.la |
| 22:59.37 | zecke | polyonymous: ah right, but I think it is the same issue :) |
| 22:59.38 | polyonymous | zecke, yup. but we need to QA check it in installed, not in staging. |
| 22:59.44 | polyonymous | well, sure it's related. |
| 23:00.04 | zecke | psycoman: did it find something yet? |
| 23:00.08 | polyonymous | anyway, psycoman compile your openbox on desktop :) |
| 23:00.13 | thesing | zecke: do you mean me with tomas in OEDEM mail? |
| 23:00.27 | zecke | thesing: no, the tf_ of o-hand.com |
| 23:00.39 | zecke | thesing: but you are welcome as well, same as ph5 |
| 23:00.43 | polyonymous | you're not thomas enough! |
| 23:00.50 | psycoman | not yeat, i think i not know how use grep very well |
| 23:01.13 | zecke | thesing: I try to be 200% careful to name tf_ tomas (without 'h') |
| 23:01.31 | psycoman | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:01.51 | psycoman | polyonymous: i have some trobles in my ow builder too |
| 23:01.53 | thesing | polyonymous: well I the real Thomas (with h ) ;) |
| 23:02.10 | polyonymous | thesing, then you're too Thomas :) |
| 23:02.20 | psycoman | im follow the steps in oe.org but bitbake nano dont work, i will see it later |
| 23:03.33 | thesing | zecke: I think I will come to OEDEM. Who knows where it will be the next time ;) |
| 23:04.38 | woglinde | thesing hehe |
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| 23:16.31 | psycoman | zecke: sorry i cannot find any usefful information but can be my search syntax |
| 23:16.35 | psycoman | im tring |
| 23:18.05 | zecke | psycoman: you will find it :) |
| 23:18.27 | psycoman | yeah.. |
| 23:19.12 | psycoman | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:19.17 | psycoman | pastbin ? |
| 23:20.21 | zecke | ~pastebin |
| 23:20.22 | ibot | rumour has it, pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or http://rafb.net/paste/, or http://pastebin.com is usually painfully too slow and unresponsive to use, use one of the other pastebin sites, or dpaste.com is a very nice pastebin as well |
| 23:20.23 | zecke | yes please |
| 23:22.37 | psycoman | dpast.com/hold/14977 |
| 23:23.03 | zecke | dpast doesn't work here |
| 23:23.47 | psycoman | oka |
| 23:24.26 | mickeyl | g'night |
| 23:24.31 | zecke | mickeyl: night |
| 23:25.09 | psycoman | pastebin.ca/629082 |
| 23:25.54 | zecke | psycoman: bad :) |
| 23:26.09 | psycoman | what =/ |
| 23:26.13 | zecke | psycoman: could you go to bugs.openembedded.org and file a bug report and attach the output? |
| 23:26.22 | psycoman | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:26.33 | psycoman | thnkx the support ^^ |
| 23:26.43 | zecke | psycoman: the quick-fix/hack is to sed this /data/build/koen... with /usr/lib |
| 23:27.03 | psycoman | i put any special information in topic ? |
| 23:27.07 | psycoman | i will do zecke |
| 23:27.23 | zecke | psycoman: "libtool breakage in -dev packages" |
| 23:27.29 | psycoman | thnx |
| 23:34.24 | nodens | I'm searching for a *usable* audio player on a Terrier, any suggestion ? bmp won't work and xmms is painful... |
| 23:34.56 | psycoman | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:35.09 | psycoman | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:35.13 | nodens | oh, it works |
| 23:35.24 | nodens | but the UI is just unusable on a Z |
| 23:35.24 | psycoman | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:35.37 | psycoman | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:36.10 | nodens | I was thinking about trying eclair, but I'll need to make a recipe first |
| 23:36.23 | nodens | it isn't in OE yet |
| 23:37.10 | psycoman | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:37.40 | nodens | yup. It will be a good way to learn ;) |
| 23:38.02 | psycoman | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:45.57 | thesing | Night all. |
| 23:46.06 | psycoman | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:51.51 | CIA-3 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r4f67bea2... 10/ (54 files in 7 dirs): |
| 23:51.51 | CIA-3 | EFL: move from building snapshots to cvs again. Reasons: |
| 23:51.51 | CIA-3 | 1.) EFL gained a lot of momentum leading to constant changes |
| 23:51.51 | CIA-3 | 2.) Snapshots were just random cvs dates again. Might as well use SRCDATE to pin them down |
| 23:51.51 | CIA-3 | 3.) <censored by NDA> |
| 23:51.51 | nodens | it is possible to inherit a class and then rewrite vars in it, right ? |
| 23:52.15 | nodens | mhmm... I'd better pull again then :) |