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| 00:08.05 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2675 has been created by waldecir(AT)gmail.com |
| 00:08.07 | cdbot2 | * * libtool breakage in -dev package |
| 00:08.09 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2675 |
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| 02:25.39 | antihaxer | Hello |
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| 04:34.23 | ljp | koen: actually no. when I flash the n800 kernel. it does not boot. |
| 04:34.59 | ljp | when I boot the rootfs from sd. it does boot. |
| 04:35.14 | ljp | whichi suppose is pivot_root |
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| 06:01.13 | drmikecrowe | Hi folks, trying to build OE for the first time. Getting this error: "package gnu-config-native-0.1+cvs20050701-r5: task do_patch: failed" |
| 06:01.21 | drmikecrowe | Any ideas? |
| 06:02.06 | drmikecrowe | (doing bitbake helloworld) |
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| 08:14.24 | jonb | koen : hi |
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| 08:37.17 | mrdata | hi all |
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| 09:17.26 | CIA-3 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rc9345b9b... 10/ (1 packages/geoclue/geoclue_git.bb): geoclue: cath up with recent developments |
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| 11:42.38 | koen | sweet, my neo bv4 can make calls now |
| 11:43.18 | koen | the trick: use angstrom, not openmoko...... |
| 11:44.06 | zecke | lol |
| 11:46.34 | koen | at guadec we found that that the openmoko defconfig breaks suspend/resume |
| 11:46.41 | koen | the one in OE works.... |
| 11:47.59 | zecke | linking is sooo slow |
| 11:48.25 | zecke | mickey|zzZZzz: ping |
| 11:50.54 | koen | zecke: what's the status of webkit integration into the rssreader? |
| 11:51.27 | zecke | koen: mjs has vacations and I'm trying to find some one to review the API patch |
| 11:51.52 | zecke | koen: the API would be enough for the RSS-reader, for a full fledged browser a lot of is missing |
| 11:52.38 | zecke | koen: but, I follow KISS at that point and only add what it is needed. There are ~100 delegates inside the WebView of the Mac and we currently have 6 of them |
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| 11:55.52 | koen | zecke: did you see http://blogs.gnome.org/nigeltao/2007/07/19/wheres-my-rocket-powered-themes/ ? |
| 11:56.14 | koen | ah, yes you did :) |
| 11:56.56 | zecke | koen: should I get insulting? |
| 11:58.11 | zecke | koen: at least xan of epiphany turned up in #webkit |
| 11:59.43 | koen | "at Trolltech, we'll be shipping Qt/WebKit with Qt4.4" |
| 11:59.52 | koen | so the qt tarbal will get 700MB bigger? |
| 12:00.15 | zecke | yes, but the price will be the same :) |
| 12:00.37 | zecke | I wonder if they will use the fast KJS or the ueber fast QtScript as JavaScript implementation |
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| 12:02.43 | koen | zecke: http://software.twotoasts.de/?page=midori , then click 'news' |
| 12:04.15 | zecke | *YAWN* |
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| 12:23.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2676 has been created by jstoefer(AT)schuett-elektronik.de |
| 12:23.06 | cdbot2 | * * angstrom-x11-image does not boot on h3850 |
| 12:23.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2676 |
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| 12:23.58 | jan_js | morning ! |
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| 12:30.10 | CIA-3 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * re9e7550c... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Webkit: update local copy of Makefiles |
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| 12:46.06 | Crofton|home | steliosk, where you looking for me? |
| 12:49.29 | woglinde | hm virtual/bla shouled be used when more than package can deliver it? |
| 12:49.50 | woglinde | without virtual when it is the same package with other version numbers? |
| 12:51.06 | woglinde | hm no |
| 12:51.24 | woglinde | update-alternatives-cworth_0.99.154.bb:RPROVIDES_${PN} = "update-alternatives" |
| 12:51.30 | woglinde | update-alternatives-dpkg_1.13.22.bb:RPROVIDES_${PN} = "update-alternatives" |
| 12:52.59 | steliosk | Crofotn|home: Yes. Did you get that Xilinx II board that was around 200-300$ for academia ? |
| 12:55.33 | steliosk | Crofton|home: Yes. Did you get that Xilinx II board that was around 200-300$ for academia ? |
| 13:03.50 | Crofton|home | I have the ml403 |
| 13:04.57 | Crofton|home | http://www.digilentinc.com/Products/Detail.cfm?Nav1=Products&Nav2=Programmable&Prod=XUPV2P |
| 13:04.59 | Crofton|home | this one? |
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| 13:22.28 | steliosk | Crofton : yes this is the one |
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| 13:23.56 | Crofton | I was buying on my "business account" |
| 13:24.10 | Crofton | I may be able to buy one through a uni account in a few weeks though |
| 13:30.43 | steliosk | Crofton : did you find any time to play with it ? Any first impressions ? |
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| 14:08.13 | Crofton | steliosk, not yet |
| 14:21.07 | chouimat | morning |
| 14:21.18 | woglinde | hi chouimat |
| 14:40.54 | CIA-3 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r65577cf9... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 14:40.54 | CIA-3 | * add edje_editor, an editor for edje files |
| 14:40.54 | CIA-3 | * add enna, a media center application based on EFL |
| 14:40.54 | CIA-3 | * add exhibit, a picture viewer application based on EFL |
| 14:41.01 | CIA-3 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r7eb8746b... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): taglib[c]: unify formatting |
| 14:41.04 | CIA-3 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rf1a35ea5... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): libmusicbrainz: update from 2.1.2 to 2.1.4, add 3.0.1 (DEFAULT_PREFERENCE=-1) |
| 14:41.10 | CIA-3 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rc2ae3a88... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): enna: fix svn build (broken locale problem) |
| 14:41.16 | CIA-3 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r8644022f... 10/ (1 packages/efl1/esmart_cvs.bb): esmart: point to proper edje_cc |
| 14:41.21 | CIA-3 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r99efc70e... 10/ (1 classes/efl1.bbclass classes/efl_library.bbclass): classes: remove outdated efl1.bbclass, package *.a/*.la in common EFL plugin directories to PN-dev |
| 14:41.26 | CIA-3 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rd8c169d4... 10/ (1 packages/efl1/etk-native packages/efl1/etk-native_cvs.bb): add etk-native (non-working yet) |
| 14:41.31 | CIA-3 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * refa64132... 10/ (9 files in 5 dirs): efl++: move inside efl1 since it's now a subproject of E17 |
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| 14:45.57 | zecke | mickey|zzZZzz: du bist da! |
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| 14:50.50 | RP | morning all |
| 14:51.11 | woglinde | hi RP |
| 14:52.36 | koen | hey RP |
| 14:53.25 | koen | mickey|zzZZzz: where can I find locale-is-broken.patch ? |
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| 15:01.35 | zecke | RP: didn't he pull yet? |
| 15:02.31 | RP | zecke: no |
| 15:02.57 | zecke | your request is +1 week old? |
| 15:03.14 | RP | zecke: 6 days |
| 15:03.19 | RP | hi mickeyl |
| 15:03.20 | zecke | the day I browsed lkml.org I saw it :) |
| 15:03.26 | mickeyl | RP: got a minute for a /query ? |
| 15:03.30 | RP | mickeyl: sure |
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| 15:13.40 | CIA-3 | 03rpurdie * r839 10bitbake/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Improve certain error messages |
| 15:14.26 | zecke | yeah |
| 15:18.35 | koen | mickeyl: mtn add packages/e17/enna -R ; mtn commit packages/e17/enna -m "enna: add missing patch" |
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| 15:24.23 | lmm | I've built an image for my handheld but it hangs after "Freeinig init memory: 92k" |
| 15:24.40 | lmm | is this because the UIDs are all wrong, and if so do I need to rebuild everything as root? |
| 15:25.44 | lmm | (asus 730, used the opie-kdepim-image target) |
| 15:26.05 | zecke | lmm: no idea |
| 15:27.11 | mickeyl | hangs on init may have EABI userland/non-EABI kernel as reason |
| 15:27.14 | steliosk | zecke : just read your reply on the e.V. hre you need 30 founding members to get started |
| 15:27.36 | steliosk | zecke : 5 or 7 won't be any problem |
| 15:28.09 | zecke | mickeyl: or wrong console, or wrong floating point emulation, or wrong rootpartition... |
| 15:28.30 | zecke | steliosk: yes, I think we get enough people together but I don't feel like doing the paper work :} |
| 15:28.50 | mickeyl | zecke: florian said KC could help there |
| 15:29.03 | steliosk | BTW anyone knows of any other OE presentations (other = not those mentioned in the wiki) |
| 15:29.28 | zecke | steliosk: mickeyl's |
| 15:29.35 | mickeyl | steliosk: download.vanille.de -> FOSDEM200*.pdf |
| 15:29.43 | mickeyl | dunno whether they are linked from the wiki |
| 15:29.43 | zecke | steliosk: but they are in a proprietary format :) |
| 15:29.56 | mickeyl | heh, thanks to poppler, pdf is not that proprietary |
| 15:30.07 | mickeyl | bbiab, switching computers |
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| 15:32.57 | mickeyl | hmm, can anyone of your compile libsigc++ on DISTRO=angstrom*? |
| 15:33.06 | mickeyl | getting heaps of c++ errors here |
| 15:33.24 | koen | mickeyl: could you hold of merging openmoko kernel recipes |
| 15:33.50 | koen | mickeyl: at guadec we found out that suspend/resume works with the .dev kernels, but not with the openmoko kernels |
| 15:34.08 | koen | (running custom userspace) |
| 15:35.40 | mickeyl | interesting. where's the difference? |
| 15:36.00 | koen | afaik only the defconfig |
| 15:39.41 | mickeyl | i hope the problem vanishes with me setting up a .dev environment on buildhost and deprecating the overlay |
| 15:40.01 | koen | and keeping kernelcoders away from OE ;) |
| 15:41.02 | mickeyl | coming back to my libsigc++ question... anyone? |
| 15:41.47 | steliosk | mickeyl : wait a sec |
| 15:43.50 | koen | mickeyl: 1.2 or 2.0? |
| 15:44.41 | mickeyl | 2.0 |
| 15:44.47 | mickeyl | both 2.0.17 and 2.0.6 error out here |
| 15:44.53 | Crofton|home | I'm running bb now |
| 15:44.56 | mickeyl | starting with namespace errors |
| 15:45.27 | koen | NOTE: package libsigc++-2.0-2.0.17-r1: task do_configure: started |
| 15:45.27 | Crofton|home | no providers? |
| 15:45.30 | Crofton|home | er name of bb file? |
| 15:45.37 | mickeyl | bitbake libsigc++-2.0 |
| 15:45.54 | Crofton|home | hmmm |
| 15:45.56 | Crofton|home | ok |
| 15:46.01 | koen | namespace erros |
| 15:46.10 | CIA-3 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rc293cc4e... 10/ (1 packages/gtk-webcore/midori_0.0.3.bb): |
| 15:46.10 | CIA-3 | midori: update to 0.0.3 |
| 15:46.10 | CIA-3 | * is still using gtk-webcore instead of webkitgdk |
| 15:46.10 | mickeyl | darn |
| 15:46.15 | CIA-3 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r706cfac4... 10/ (1 packages/e17/enna/locale-is-broken.patch): enna: add missing patch. thanks koen for spotting |
| 15:46.36 | mickeyl | guess no one tested that since upgrading toolchain |
| 15:46.47 | mickeyl | they have no newer release either |
| 15:46.49 | Crofton|home | gcc 4.x c++ cahnges? |
| 15:47.36 | mickeyl | i'm afraid so |
| 15:47.40 | mickeyl | probably more strict compliance |
| 15:48.00 | Crofton|home | yeah |
| 15:48.09 | chouimat | hi guys |
| 15:48.26 | koen | mickeyl: I built gobby a while ago with gcc 4.x.x |
| 15:48.29 | mickeyl | in wonder whether I should just ditch it and going boost instead |
| 15:48.37 | koen | heh, boost |
| 15:48.50 | koen | mickeyl: read the mtn mailinglist, nothing but trouble with boost |
| 15:48.54 | Crofton|home | what is libsigc++? |
| 15:48.54 | mickeyl | which offers more or less the same functionality |
| 15:48.57 | koen | mtn is dumping boost |
| 15:48.59 | chouimat | ewww boost :) |
| 15:49.02 | mickeyl | koen: really? |
| 15:49.11 | mickeyl | Crofton: type-safe signal/slot library |
| 15:49.28 | mickeyl | which i need for EFLpp |
| 15:49.54 | koen | mickeyl: try poking murrayc |
| 15:49.59 | Crofton|home | this will to communicationi between processes? |
| 15:50.22 | chouimat | Crofton no only between objects ... and it also depend on the toolkit you use |
| 15:52.11 | Crofton|home | http://womble.decadentplace.org.uk/c++/syntax-errors.html |
| 15:52.44 | chouimat | Crofton|home: here an interesting blog about signal and slot http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2007/06/15/boost-signals-slots-with-qt/ |
| 15:59.06 | lmm | the default kernel config for my machine is wrong (doesn't include the touchscreen); how do I get to menuconfig myself when building? |
| 15:59.24 | mickeyl | bitbake -c configure <foo> |
| 15:59.28 | mickeyl | cd into the directory |
| 15:59.37 | mickeyl | call make menuconfig ARCH=whatever CROSS_COMPILE=whatever |
| 15:59.46 | mickeyl | then copy the new .config into your metadata |
| 15:59.47 | mickeyl | then build again |
| 16:00.35 | lmm | where <foo> should be what, linux-2.6.21-hh12 ? |
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| 16:02.12 | jan_js | ood afternoon, all ! |
| 16:03.47 | jan_js | Iam trying to build an angstrom image for netbook right now, and I want it to build against OABI. |
| 16:04.32 | steliosk | mickeyl : it fails on angstrom/efika also |
| 16:05.01 | jan_js | I have added 'netbook' to the list of OABI - devices in angstroem.conf, however, bitbake tell sme it is going to build against 'gnueabi' - how comes ? |
| 16:05.53 | mickeyl | steliosk: k, thanks for testing |
| 16:06.03 | woglinde | jan_js maybee you made a mistake? |
| 16:06.19 | steliosk | mickeyl : Do you need to build log ? |
| 16:06.46 | mickeyl | steliosk: no, thanks, it's probably the same failure as here. |
| 16:07.46 | jan_js | woglinde: absolutely possible :-) I tried to copy the way it is done for collie. |
| 16:08.18 | woglinde | jan_js please /msg me the line |
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| 16:13.57 | jan_js | oops |
| 16:14.36 | mickeyl | sigh |
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| 16:14.42 | mickeyl | still errors out |
| 16:14.44 | mickeyl | however differently |
| 16:15.48 | jan_js | woglinde: and at 2 more places further down the angstrom.conf |
| 16:16.28 | woglinde | jan_js did you register? |
| 16:16.34 | woglinde | I didnt get msh |
| 16:16.37 | woglinde | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:16.42 | jan_js | no, not yet. |
| 16:17.19 | jan_js | woglinde: can I send it to you as a brief file ? |
| 16:17.52 | woglinde | than put it pastebin |
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| 16:19.45 | woglinde | hi florian |
| 16:19.54 | flo_lap | re |
| 16:22.27 | RP | hi florian |
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| 16:27.03 | jan_js | woglinde: sorry, took a while: http://pastebin.ca/629709 |
| 16:28.33 | woglinde | jan_js okay that looks fine |
| 16:29.32 | jan_js | woglinde: But bitbake insist on TARGET_OS = "linux-gnueabi" |
| 16:29.48 | woglinde | hm is MACHINE=netbook set? |
| 16:29.54 | woglinde | please run bitbake with -e | less |
| 16:30.04 | woglinde | und look what MACHINE is ste too |
| 16:30.36 | jan_js | woglinde: ok |
| 16:30.53 | woglinde | ar right |
| 16:31.13 | woglinde | ah error found |
| 16:31.16 | woglinde | in != not in |
| 16:33.08 | woglinde | args sorrry |
| 16:34.03 | jan_js | woglinde: ? |
| 16:34.26 | woglinde | I looked false at TARGET_OS_UC |
| 16:34.39 | woglinde | # ARM_ABI=${@['','oabi'][bb.data.getVar('MACHINE',d) in ['collie','h3600', 'h3800', 'simpad', 'htcwallaby']]} |
| 16:34.42 | woglinde | ARM_ABI="oabi" |
| 16:35.25 | woglinde | output from bibtake bla -e |
| 16:43.00 | mickeyl | mmh nasty |
| 16:43.06 | mickeyl | now it breaks in the toolchain |
| 16:43.17 | mickeyl | | /home/pkg/oe/fic-gta01/tmp/cross/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/include/c++/bits/functexcept.h:43: error: expected constructor, destructor, or type conversion before 'namespace' |
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| 16:44.54 | mickeyl | sometimes i hate compiled languages |
| 16:44.54 | woglinde | hm yes which compiler? |
| 16:45.21 | woglinde | mickeyl oe-branch or openmoko? |
| 16:45.42 | mickeyl | org.openembedded.dev |
| 16:45.44 | mickeyl | gcc version 4.1.2 |
| 16:45.50 | woglinde | hm |
| 16:45.51 | mickeyl | or rather, g++ |
| 16:45.53 | woglinde | use uclibc |
| 16:45.56 | woglinde | *g* |
| 16:46.01 | mickeyl | no option |
| 16:46.06 | mickeyl | at least not in the short term |
| 16:47.12 | woglinde | hm |
| 16:48.00 | mickeyl | sigh guess it means going boost then |
| 16:48.02 | Crofton|home | mickeyl, did you see the link I pasted to common C++ problems? |
| 16:48.16 | Crofton|home | it is help ful figuring out problems when you move to gcc-4.x |
| 16:48.32 | mickeyl | Crofton|home: yes, but that's in the toolchain. i doubt that they have a common C++ error in a toolchain header |
| 16:48.54 | Crofton|home | ah |
| 16:49.12 | woglinde | mickeyl but why no other has thus error |
| 16:49.16 | Crofton|home | I compile a lot of c++ stuff for angstrom |
| 16:49.20 | woglinde | or you using gcc 4.2.1? |
| 16:49.28 | mickeyl | no, 4.1.2 |
| 16:49.40 | mickeyl | sigc++ is probably the thing that makes most heavy usage of advanced C++ features |
| 16:49.50 | mickeyl | so I'm not surprised it doesn't crashes nowhere else |
| 16:50.18 | woglinde | oh hm at sigc++ |
| 16:50.22 | woglinde | I wondered |
| 16:50.36 | woglinde | I thought it was in g++ compilation |
| 16:50.45 | mickeyl | no, sorry. toolchain builds ok |
| 16:50.51 | mickeyl | just that damn signal slot library |
| 16:51.04 | woglinde | hehe I know |
| 16:51.20 | woglinde | used for long in dreambox and dbox2 |
| 16:51.37 | zecke | mickeyl: at least it doesn't use a preprocessor |
| 16:51.52 | mickeyl | zecke: i have nothing against preprocessor usage once it works |
| 16:51.56 | mickeyl | grr |
| 16:52.03 | woglinde | mickeyl 2.0 or 1.2? |
| 16:52.09 | mickeyl | woglinde: 2.0 |
| 16:52.32 | mickeyl | of course it compiles perfectly on x86 |
| 16:52.46 | mickeyl | which makes me think our toolchain build is to blame |
| 16:52.47 | woglinde | mickeyl please look at debian project |
| 16:52.55 | woglinde | maybee they have somefixes |
| 16:53.01 | mickeyl | good idea. let me check |
| 16:53.10 | woglinde | Version: 2.0.17-2 |
| 16:53.25 | woglinde | no arch exclusion |
| 16:54.37 | woglinde | hm we hm no patches |
| 16:54.43 | mickeyl | nope, no patches |
| 16:54.48 | mickeyl | just build changes |
| 16:54.54 | woglinde | so g++ patches |
| 17:00.51 | woglinde | hm my network connections is to slow |
| 17:01.02 | zecke | koen: eek, I have double scrollbars :} |
| 17:02.10 | koen | zecke: better than no scrollbars :) |
| 17:02.23 | woglinde | *g* |
| 17:02.25 | koen | oooooh |
| 17:02.30 | koen | SDIO mail on LAKML |
| 17:15.04 | HelloMrWorld | koen : i saw on oesf that you have a 4gb sd card working in angstrom? |
| 17:15.52 | HelloMrWorld | my transcent 4gb sdhc card is having problems, i partitioned a new ext2 partition on it then when i try to copy data on to it, it crashes |
| 17:16.16 | HelloMrWorld | tried to set a different block size also, using mke2fs -b 1024 |
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| 17:38.07 | RP | koen: I've just noitced the SDIO mail too, interesting |
| 17:51.01 | drmikecrowe | Hi folks, is there a coLinux setup page somewhere? Telling what base tools needs to be installed? |
| 17:52.05 | woglinde | hm last time I tried colinux on winxp I crashed |
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| 18:28.47 | CIA-3 | 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r86395f96... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 18:28.47 | CIA-3 | apt: upgrade to 0.7.3 |
| 18:28.47 | CIA-3 | * 0.7.2 has become unfetchable on the Debian mirrors |
| 18:28.47 | CIA-3 | * 0.7.2 was broken (failed do_patch), the same applies for 0.7.3. |
| 18:28.47 | CIA-3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:28.48 | CIA-3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:28.50 | CIA-3 | * more information in bug 2017 comment 6 |
| 18:42.18 | koen | RP: the idea is to implement mmc_block on top of the sdio framework |
| 18:42.26 | koen | RP: so prepare for more sd breakages |
| 18:42.39 | XorA|gone | :-( |
| 19:06.40 | Laibsch | ping hrw|gone |
| 19:21.06 | hrw | pong Laibsch |
| 19:21.17 | hrw | hi guys |
| 19:23.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2677 has been created by <ljp> |
| 19:23.06 | cdbot2 | * * nokia 800 kernel not booting |
| 19:23.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2677 |
| 19:24.50 | Crofton|home | ljp, what time is it there? |
| 19:25.34 | ljp | 05:25 |
| 19:26.07 | Crofton|home | ug up early :) |
| 19:27.22 | ljp | ya. i dont sleep much |
| 19:27.30 | ljp | sleep is overrated |
| 19:27.46 | Crofton|home | heh |
| 19:28.21 | Crofton|home | are you trying angstrom on n770 also? |
| 19:28.48 | ljp | not at the moment.. on a n800 |
| 19:29.00 | ljp | need maemo on the n770 |
| 19:29.01 | Crofton|home | I have a 770, no 800 :( |
| 19:29.33 | ljp | just got the n800 on wednesday |
| 19:29.42 | Crofton|home | cool |
| 19:29.50 | ljp | much nicer display |
| 19:29.55 | zecke | t |
| 19:29.59 | Crofton|home | larger? |
| 19:30.05 | ljp | clearer |
| 19:30.07 | Crofton|home | I find the text small on the 770 |
| 19:30.13 | Crofton|home | and I am getting farsighted |
| 19:36.10 | flyback- | so |
| 19:36.16 | flyback- | any progress on the palm's recentely |
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| 20:03.15 | likewise | hello all |
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| 20:06.37 | likewise | hello koen |
| 20:07.11 | koen | hey likewise |
| 20:10.05 | likewise | koen, you went to guadec? |
| 20:10.10 | Crofton|home | gm |
| 20:10.19 | likewise | gm Crofton|home |
| 20:11.10 | koen | likewise: yes |
| 20:11.35 | likewise | was it fruitful (in whatever way)? |
| 20:11.51 | likewise | Crofton|home: Sound on the EFIKA userland test (works for me (tm)) http://www.pastebin.ca/629951 |
| 20:12.28 | koen | likewise: yeah, talked a lot with matthijs from irex |
| 20:12.51 | Crofton|home | interestng, what image do you use? |
| 20:13.28 | likewise | Crofton|home: some angstrom image (I think console, with some EXTRA in there). I'm trying to get it to go again. |
| 20:13.32 | likewise | it=the build |
| 20:13.44 | Crofton|home | I was sorking from bootstrap-image |
| 20:14.14 | Crofton|home | I guess I'll try console imaage |
| 20:14.37 | likewise | I can test in a bit I guess. |
| 20:16.02 | likewise | girlfriend did a reading marathon over the weekend and finished this afternoon |
| 20:16.10 | likewise | I cannot bother with harry |
| 20:16.11 | likewise | :-) |
| 20:16.18 | koen | likewise: same here, now I have the book :) |
| 20:17.33 | hrw | so who died? |
| 20:18.04 | likewise | ssshhh |
| 20:18.04 | Crofton|home | arg |
| 20:18.04 | Crofton|home | shut up! |
| 20:18.04 | Crofton|home | :) |
| 20:18.04 | Crofton|home | no spoiling for a week or so |
| 20:18.07 | zecke | did you buy the book? |
| 20:18.30 | hrw | zecke: atleast half of year will pass |
| 20:21.18 | Crofton|home | hmm angstrom-minimal-image |
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| 20:21.23 | Crofton|home | any tothers? |
| 20:22.32 | likewise | angstrom-console-image? |
| 20:22.38 | Crofton|home | where is that? |
| 20:23.41 | likewise | maybe it's legacy. It used to exist. I am not up-to-date, I have been not been able to follow OE lately... |
| 20:24.00 | Crofton|home | packages/angstrom |
| 20:24.44 | Crofton|home | so ANGSTROM_EXTRA_INSTALL will add packages to the image? |
| 20:25.33 | likewise | Crofton|home: yes, it used to. Please grep to see if that's currently still the case. |
| 20:25.39 | Crofton|home | yeah |
| 20:25.49 | Crofton|home | I was reading the bb file :) |
| 20:26.27 | likewise | ANGSTROM_EXTRA_INSTALL += "libao-alsa-plugin \ |
| 20:26.29 | likewise | mpg321 alsa-utils-aplay alsa-utils-amixer alsa-utils-speakertest madplay" |
| 20:26.36 | Crofton|home | ah |
| 20:26.41 | Crofton|home | ok |
| 20:26.45 | Crofton|home | local.conf? |
| 20:26.48 | likewise | yes |
| 20:26.56 | likewise | took me a while myself... |
| 20:27.32 | likewise | after I got everything working, I switched to uclibc, which broke some things again... that's the current state. |
| 20:29.53 | Crofton|home | well, lets see what I get from this piece of info |
| 20:43.15 | hrw | bye |
| 20:52.06 | koen | interesting: http://www.burtonini.com/blog/computers/katachi-2007-07-22-20-50 |
| 21:10.14 | polyonymous | koen, I find it wonderful - bzr, git and svn in one project ;) wonder why no cvs and visual sourcesafe :) |
| 21:10.35 | polyonymous | and yes, I understand it's not his fault :) |
| 21:21.10 | likewise | I think koen's interest is mainly flipping through photographs, not the number of version control systems involved :-) |
| 21:22.55 | polyonymous | Wouldn't that be boring? :) |
| 21:25.39 | likewise | yes, it would be too user friendly I guess |
| 21:32.37 | polyonymous | especially for koen :) |
| 21:35.31 | RP | koen: I guess at least the breakage is for a good cause :/ |
| 21:35.37 | drmikecrowe | Hi folks, I'm trying to build OE for the first time. I'm getting this error: ERROR: No buildable providers available for required build target nano |
| 21:35.43 | RP | koen: The suspend/resume problem is controlled by a Kconfig option btw |
| 21:35.51 | drmikecrowe | Any idea what could cause it? |
| 21:36.39 | zecke | drmikecrowe: did you set BBFILES in local.conf? did you export BBPATH? |
| 21:37.11 | drmikecrowe | zecke: Here's BBPATH=/opt/stuff/build:/opt/stuff/org.openembedded.dev |
| 21:37.28 | zecke | drmikecrowe: did you export it? |
| 21:37.40 | zecke | drmikecrowe: you understood your are not forced to use /opt/stuff? |
| 21:37.52 | drmikecrowe | zecke: yes, that was from echo $BBPATH |
| 21:38.02 | drmikecrowe | Here's what I have in local.conf: BBFILES := "/opt/stuff/org.openembedded.dev/packages/*/*.bb" |
| 21:38.16 | zecke | drmikecrowe: do the test BLA="abc" |
| 21:38.20 | zecke | drmikecrowe: echo $BLA |
| 21:38.21 | drmikecrowe | yes, I understand I can put it anywhere |
| 21:38.44 | zecke | drmikecrowe: so did bitbake say it parsed +4000 files? |
| 21:39.13 | drmikecrowe | zecke: Yes. I've fixed some sanity errors, not this buildable target message |
| 21:39.48 | zecke | drmikecrowe: I wonder if richards last commit improved such error messages as well |
| 21:39.55 | zecke | drmikecrowe: any special MACHINE, DISTRO? |
| 21:40.23 | drmikecrowe | zecke: I checked out last night, not today |
| 21:40.24 | zecke | drmikecrowe: I would propose to use -v or -vv or -vvv to check which provider might not be buildable. This can only be some sort of toolchain |
| 21:40.34 | drmikecrowe | Here's the build: http://pastebin.com/d4820f45f |
| 21:40.41 | XorA|gone | morning |
| 21:41.29 | zecke | drmikecrowe: use -vvv to see what is missing |
| 21:41.34 | drmikecrowe | zecke: Check this out: NOTE: No providers of build target virtual/gcc |
| 21:42.26 | zecke | are you sure 'MACHINE = "palmtt3"' is correct? |
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| 21:42.51 | drmikecrowe | zecke: Yes |
| 21:43.20 | drmikecrowe | I was trying to build on cygwin earlier, and was getting further. Now, I'm trying to use coLinux. Just setting up |
| 21:43.39 | woglinde | I have no palmtt3 config |
| 21:43.43 | zecke | drmikecrowe: this machine, if it even exists in conf/machine, does not set TARGET_ARCH |
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| 21:44.43 | BobOfDoom | zecke: TARGET_ARCH is set in include/palm.conf |
| 21:44.53 | drmikecrowe | zecke: doh, I think I see the issue: BUILD_SYS="i686-pc-cygwin" |
| 21:45.26 | jan_js | evening .. |
| 21:45.35 | drmikecrowe | looks like coLinux is i486-pc-linux-gnu |
| 21:45.37 | zecke | BobOfDoom: well, I have no OE tree here but if woglinde says there is no "palmtt3.conf"... |
| 21:45.49 | zecke | drmikecrowe: well, this would fail later... |
| 21:46.30 | drmikecrowe | zecke: Here: org.openembedded.dev/conf/machine/palmtt3.conf |
| 21:46.38 | BobOfDoom | http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/conf/machine/palmtt3.conf |
| 21:49.44 | BobOfDoom | drmikecrowe: did you copy the OE tree from cygwin or check it out again? maybe try checking out with monotone again.. it might have missed something? |
| 21:50.13 | koen | RP: the SD suspend problem? |
| 21:50.29 | drmikecrowe | BobOfDoom: I'm wondering if that might be it. I did just copy it (it's a big download) |
| 21:50.49 | drmikecrowe | I still have the big OE.mtn file |
| 21:51.41 | BobOfDoom | drmikecrowe: yeah you won't have to download anything again if you still have that file. just do mtn --db=OE.mtn checkout or whatever it is again. keep your sources (tarballs) directory though |
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| 21:52.28 | drmikecrowe | zecke: It was that BUILD_SYS="i686-pc-cygwin" I was trying to use. It's building now. Thanks BobOfDoom |
| 21:52.47 | jonb | Koen ; making progress |
| 21:53.00 | BobOfDoom | drmikecrowe: cool. :) |
| 21:54.38 | jonb | koen : The Linux boot on NBP must be reversible. In other words, it MUST be possible to go back to WinCE. I have altered the partition command and now the CE image will load. Problem is, ha, ha, it will not execute. Gosh, isn't this fun! |
| 21:55.37 | drmikecrowe | BobOfDoom: You don't have a T3, do you? |
| 21:55.44 | woglinde | koen can you do me a little favor and configure libsigc++ and than show me whats in line 80 of sigc++config.h |
| 21:55.46 | jonb | If only I could talk to Wookey <sigh> |
| 21:55.47 | likewise | Crofton|home: hmm, 2.6.20.11 in OE misses the sound (ALSA and PPC device 5200), Furthermore, the module seems not to be copied to the rootfs. |
| 21:56.01 | zecke | night |
| 21:56.10 | woglinde | nite zecke |
| 21:56.15 | jonb | hey woglinde |
| 21:56.21 | likewise | Crofton|home: missing, as in, you need to run ARCH=powerpc make menuconfig |
| 21:56.24 | woglinde | he jonb |
| 21:56.32 | likewise | Crofton|home: Enable sound, and the PPC 5200 device. |
| 21:56.36 | jonb | I mean "wotcha mate" |
| 21:56.43 | likewise | good nite |
| 21:57.11 | jonb | Also, Crofton, your baby asleep? |
| 21:57.16 | woglinde | or can do it someone else with a glibc setup |
| 21:57.57 | woglinde | hm |
| 21:58.36 | jonb | Does anyone know where I can get an OpenZaurus E17 root image from (that runs off a 2.6.9 kernel)? |
| 21:58.55 | woglinde | use angstrom |
| 21:59.17 | jonb | Angsrtrom needs a 2.6.17 kernel, according to koen |
| 21:59.43 | woglinde | yes |
| 21:59.54 | woglinde | 2.6.9 is horrible old with security patches |
| 22:00.30 | jonb | So at the moment, I'm buggered, 'cause I can't get a 2.6.17 kernel to boot on my device. Guess what it is woglinde |
| 22:02.13 | jonb | Gosh everyone's leaving |
| 22:02.27 | jonb | it's me isn't it |
| 22:02.35 | jonb | paranoid, me |
| 22:03.09 | polyonymous | of course it's you, came and scared everyone off. |
| 22:03.09 | woglinde | jonb hm I think you are lost with 2.6.9 |
| 22:03.20 | woglinde | *g* |
| 22:03.38 | polyonymous | but what is the device, I'm curious already :) |
| 22:03.40 | woglinde | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:03.54 | polyonymous | woglinde, hang on, lemme pull first |
| 22:04.04 | polyonymous | I'm somwhat outdated |
| 22:04.32 | polyonymous | 44 revs :) |
| 22:04.32 | woglinde | but I need it with glibc setup |
| 22:04.38 | jonb | oh that's grand. how the [insert rude word here] am i supposed to get this stuff working, when no one who knows anything about the machine will give me some answers? |
| 22:04.39 | woglinde | mostly e17 |
| 22:04.40 | polyonymous | I'm building with glibc |
| 22:04.48 | woglinde | fine |
| 22:04.55 | jonb | poly : it's a Netbook Pro. |
| 22:05.08 | polyonymous | jonb, I don't even know what's that :) |
| 22:05.32 | polyonymous | and I'm not sure how you're supposed to get this stuff working... |
| 22:06.00 | jonb | Better than a Zaurus, better than a poxy iPaq, better than any other mobile computing device. Because of the battery and he form factor. |
| 22:06.17 | jonb | Sorry "the form factor" |
| 22:06.29 | jonb | Believe me, it's the business. |
| 22:06.45 | woglinde | yeah but 2.6.9 helps you nothing |
| 22:06.55 | jonb | You're right there woglinde. |
| 22:07.15 | woglinde | you cand put it in safe watch it every day |
| 22:07.21 | woglinde | one time |
| 22:07.23 | woglinde | *g* |
| 22:07.32 | jonb | Wot's the matter with 2.6.9 |
| 22:08.07 | woglinde | no security support |
| 22:08.20 | jonb | My problem is, it doesn't have support for the Orinoco card (well, I am talking about the only working OS image I have) |
| 22:08.57 | jonb | And, Angstrom rootfs will not work with it. koen says it needs 2.6.17 |
| 22:09.28 | polyonymous | baking now, had to do some manual merging. |
| 22:10.05 | woglinde | polyonymous when it fails please show me line 80 of sigc++config.h |
| 22:10.17 | polyonymous | will do :) |
| 22:11.12 | jonb | real problem is the bootloader it's a bit wierd and no one seems to know anything about it. Frustrating. |
| 22:12.22 | jonb | BUT : I have OE & bb up and running and have built a zImage of 2.6.17 |
| 22:12.34 | jonb | So at least I am trying!!! |
| 22:13.54 | jonb | woglinde : There are people out there with the knowledge, but no one is sharing. How frustrating is that? |
| 22:14.15 | woglinde | jonb sorry openzaurus is dead nobody cares |
| 22:14.56 | jonb | there is an e17 rootfs for it, koen's got screen dumps of it (no files though!) |
| 22:15.19 | jonb | just want to get he machine useable |
| 22:15.29 | jonb | then will get angstrom up on it |
| 22:15.34 | jonb | arrgh |
| 22:16.39 | polyonymous | woglinde, I came back to see that after parsing it bailed out with no provider, what's the target? |
| 22:17.25 | woglinde | sorry |
| 22:17.26 | woglinde | libsigc++-2.0 |
| 22:17.34 | polyonymous | ok :) |
| 22:18.45 | jonb | Oh well, I am continuing various avenues of investigation. As I told koen, if I find out anything truly useful, I will update the Ang / OE wiki. No need to be sorry. I *will* crack this thing. I've beaten much more complex stuff than this, be sure of that. |
| 22:19.25 | jonb | Good night. |
| 22:19.29 | polyonymous | woglinde, ;-))) /* #undef SIGC_USING_STD */(Symbol) |
| 22:19.48 | woglinde | polyonymous right this is the erorr |
| 22:20.00 | polyonymous | yeah, doesn't take a rocket scientist to see :) |
| 22:20.10 | woglinde | it must #define #SIGC_USING_STD(symbol) |
| 22:20.13 | woglinde | args |
| 22:20.19 | woglinde | #define SIGC_USING_STD(symbol) |
| 22:20.24 | polyonymous | yeah |
| 22:20.32 | polyonymous | I think it's autoconf version issue |
| 22:20.37 | polyonymous | autoheader to be precise |
| 22:20.43 | woglinde | hm |
| 22:20.50 | woglinde | I think autoheader is right |
| 22:21.07 | woglinde | the definition seems wrong |
| 22:21.26 | polyonymous | Well, it seems to define macro with parameter |
| 22:21.36 | polyonymous | and my guess is that our autoheader doesn't support it. |
| 22:22.01 | polyonymous | of course there's an option of no autoheader supporting it... |
| 22:22.12 | polyonymous | but I'm trying to make sense of it :) |
| 22:22.16 | woglinde | yes |
| 22:22.24 | woglinde | mickeyl will kiss you |
| 22:22.26 | woglinde | *g* |
| 22:22.31 | polyonymous | hmm... |
| 22:22.44 | polyonymous | Have you looked at sigc++-config.h.in ? |
| 22:22.52 | woglinde | yes |
| 22:23.05 | polyonymous | Looks like this stuff should never be run through autoheader... |
| 22:23.34 | polyonymous | I've seen that before when doing ebuild for postgresql 7.* ;-) |
| 22:23.34 | woglinde | hm no |
| 22:23.47 | woglinde | than the definition is wrong |
| 22:23.50 | polyonymous | it's just that some stuff shouldn't be fully autoreconfed |
| 22:24.01 | woglinde | autoheader seems to do the right think |
| 22:24.09 | polyonymous | no, |
| 22:24.15 | polyonymous | the right thing is not to touch the fiel |
| 22:24.34 | polyonymous | look at like 62 in .h.in |
| 22:24.37 | polyonymous | line |
| 22:26.16 | polyonymous | EXTRA_AUTORECONF to exclude autoheader ? |
| 22:26.51 | woglinde | hm cat >> config.h after autotools |
| 22:27.40 | polyonymous | cat what? |
| 22:27.58 | woglinde | SIGC_USING_STD(Symbol) |
| 22:28.06 | woglinde | or echo |
| 22:28.57 | woglinde | it doesnt test anything, so its safe on evry compiler I guess |
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| 22:29.27 | polyonymous | I'd prefer proper fix. |
| 22:30.47 | polyonymous | why do you call namespace std { using ::Symbol; } nothing, anyway? |
| 22:31.10 | woglinde | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:31.25 | woglinde | I only spotted the error |
| 22:31.30 | woglinde | after mickeyl has problems |
| 22:31.31 | polyonymous | nevermind |
| 22:31.41 | polyonymous | http://rafb.net/p/GRjGFL85.html |
| 22:31.52 | woglinde | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:32.15 | polyonymous | woglinde, anyway, do you want to patch your mtn or do you want me to push it? :) |
| 22:32.26 | woglinde | please push it |
| 22:32.32 | polyonymous | hang on then |
| 22:32.35 | woglinde | I am working on fastjar and midpath |
| 22:32.41 | woglinde | and its mainly for mickeyl |
| 22:34.59 | polyonymous | pushed |
| 22:38.15 | woglinde | tanks |
| 22:38.16 | woglinde | thanks |
| 22:38.52 | polyonymous | you're welcome :) |
| 22:41.14 | Laibsch | I hereby declare my resignation from OE and Angstrom |
| 22:41.18 | Laibsch | Good bye |
| 22:41.20 | Laibsch | Have fun |
| 22:41.35 | woglinde | laibsch why? |
| 22:41.37 | polyonymous | Laibsch, I think it's not the best you can do. |
| 22:42.05 | Laibsch | http://www.angstrom-distribution.org used to be there just a minute ago |
| 22:42.09 | Laibsch | It is gone now |
| 22:42.14 | Laibsch | This is still a fiefdom |
| 22:42.19 | Laibsch | I am sick of dealing with it |
| 22:42.29 | Laibsch | Sorry, wrong link |
| 22:42.37 | Laibsch | http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/mw used to be there just a minute ago |
| 22:43.10 | polyonymous | oh well... |
| 22:43.22 | polyonymous | People just can't get along well... |
| 22:44.25 | woglinde | maybee I am on the wrong devel-list |
| 22:44.43 | polyonymous | woglinde, the wiki thing. |
| 22:45.51 | polyonymous | to be true, I find the very idea of wiki so unappealing that arguing about which one is to be used isn't of much importance to me :) |
| 22:46.13 | CIA-3 | 03polyonymous 07org.oe.dev * rb9a8109f... 10/ (1 packages/libsigc++-2.0/libsigc++-2.0_2.0.17.bb): |
| 22:46.13 | CIA-3 | libsigc++-2.0: disable autoheader in autoreconf |
| 22:46.13 | CIA-3 | since it uses non-autoheader .h.in which gets broken |
| 22:46.24 | polyonymous | thank you, CIA, just about time :) |
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| 22:59.54 | Laibsch | polyonymous: I think you should appreciate that I was not forcing my decision on others |
| 23:00.08 | Laibsch | I prefer a tool and I wanted to be able to use it. |
| 23:00.38 | Laibsch | Should others like to use it, too, they should have been free to do share it with me. |
| 23:01.03 | Laibsch | That is the whole idea |
| 23:01.09 | Laibsch | s/is/was/ |
| 23:01.25 | polyonymous | Laibsch, I do not object your actions... |
| 23:01.45 | polyonymous | I actually can't commend regarding the matter, since it's irrelevant to me. |
| 23:01.53 | Laibsch | It was nonetheless important for me to make sure you understand |
| 23:02.08 | Laibsch | it is irrelevant to you if somebody deletes your work? |
| 23:02.20 | Laibsch | OK, not your work, but my work. |
| 23:02.30 | polyonymous | no, I mean the whole wiki thing. |
| 23:02.47 | Laibsch | And I tried very hard for it not to escalate |
| 23:02.54 | Laibsch | I think this is laughable, too. |
| 23:03.00 | Laibsch | But that is just koen-style |
| 23:03.05 | polyonymous | as for removal... well... I don't think it's nice thing to do, but then again, I have no good idea on what was going on. |
| 23:03.12 | Laibsch | Ask hrw tomorrow how I tried |
| 23:03.25 | polyonymous | ohwell... |
| 23:03.38 | Laibsch | There are just people you cannot get along with |
| 23:03.48 | Laibsch | koen is trying very hard to prove he is |
| 23:03.49 | polyonymous | But anyway I think calling oe a fiefdom may be offending for others. |
| 23:03.59 | Laibsch | OK, you are right |
| 23:04.10 | Laibsch | oe is a bit separate |
| 23:04.32 | Laibsch | oe is not a fiefdom |
| 23:04.45 | Laibsch | but essentially the only distro left is angstrom |
| 23:04.57 | Laibsch | and angstrom *is* a fiefdom |
| 23:05.07 | Laibsch | thus I have no choice but to leave both |
| 23:05.46 | polyonymous | well... I don't know.. |
| 23:05.56 | polyonymous | it's a sad story |
| 23:06.13 | woglinde | polyonymous can you help me? |
| 23:06.21 | polyonymous | woglinde, how do I know ahead of time? |
| 23:06.33 | woglinde | when I should use virtual/bla and when I can leave the virtual out? |
| 23:07.12 | polyonymous | woglinde, that's not the part of oe I'm expert in ;-) I think you need to use virtual/ if the feature in question may be provided by more than one package |
| 23:07.26 | polyonymous | like kernel, iconv, etc. |
| 23:07.50 | woglinde | hm I see packages doing that without virtual |
| 23:08.09 | polyonymous | doing what ? |
| 23:08.38 | polyonymous | I'd think that the package that relies on particular implementation should do it without virtual |
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| 23:25.44 | woglinde | godd nite |
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