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00:02.14Crofton|homeno monotone support
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00:12.32zeckeibot: test
00:12.33ibotOh, no! There's a test and I haven't studied!
00:15.23Crofton|homeheh
00:15.40Crofton|homeyou need a cot in your lab
00:38.21Croftonkoen|away, ping
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06:15.06Marexpolyonymous, hi, are you around by any chance?
06:17.25hrwmorning
06:20.43Marexhi hrw
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06:30.24Marexpolyonymous, hi
06:31.02hrwibot: spell orthopaedist
06:34.10CIA-303koen 07org.oe.dev * r2c0fad76... 10/ (1 packages/maemo3/hildon-thumbnail_0.11.bb): hildon-thumbnail: add 0.11
06:34.15CIA-303raj.khem 07org.oe.dev * rc441a97d... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): eglibc: fix staging, SRC_URI and add a backport fix from gcc
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06:46.18khem_koen: hello
06:47.05khem_koen: I am able to build the whole stuff with eglibc but it is not booting :(
06:47.27khem_Freeing init memory: 120K
06:47.27khem_Kernel panic - not syncing: No init found.  Try passing init= option to kernel.
06:47.33hrwhi koen
06:47.53hrwkhem_: boot with 'init=/bin/busybox sh' maybe?
06:48.05khem_lemme try that
06:48.15khem_yeah thats next in line
06:48.45koengrrr
06:49.02koenthe uni network locks me out of freedesktop.org and ibiblio
06:49.28koenso I can't complete a build because I can't download the new gstreamer...
06:49.30NAbysskoen: wtf..
06:49.48khem_Freeing init memory: 120K
06:49.48khem_Failed to execute /bin/busybox.  Attempting defaults...
06:49.48khem_Kernel panic - not syncing: No init found.  Try passing init= option to kernel.
06:52.05cdbot2* * OE Bug  has been RESOLVED by sybren(AT)stuvel.eu
06:52.07cdbot2* *  Zaurus C3000 drains battery on stand-by
06:52.09cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=
06:53.53hrwkhem_: boot any good system and chroot into the one which you built
06:54.03hrwkhem_: looks like you lack libs in it
06:54.05khem_koen: Did u have a chance to look at the patch I posted
06:54.15khem_hrw: yeah looks like that
06:54.25khem_hrw: I dont have a glibc based build
06:54.28khem_running one now
06:54.39hrwkhem_: then fetch angstrom one?
06:54.54hrwmy right wrist is killing me ;(
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07:01.07khem_hrw|gone: you are right my eglibc libs are missing from rootfs
07:07.13khemWhen and how is rootfs created
07:10.04cdbot2* * OE Bug 2721 has been created by <Marek>
07:10.06cdbot2* * various opie/palm related fixes
07:10.08cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2721
07:30.05cdbot2* * OE Bug 2721 has been RESOLVED (INVALID) by <koen>
07:30.07cdbot2* *  various opie/palm related fixes
07:30.09cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2721
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07:31.18MarexNOTE: preferred version 2.5 of glibc-intermediate not available (for item glibc-gconv-iso8859-1)
07:31.24Marexany ideas anyone?
07:32.08koenkhem: did you try chrooting into the eglibc image from a known-good image?
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07:43.04cdbot2* * OE Bug 2507 has been REOPENED by <Marek>
07:43.06cdbot2* *  building for angstrom-2007.1 tries to build glibc 2.3.2
07:43.08cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2507
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07:44.39khemkoen: no, however  I see that rootfs/lib does not have any thing from eglibc
07:44.46khemkoen: where does it get copied
07:44.53khemin the build proces
07:45.19koenduring do_rootfs, the packages should depend on eglibc via our shlib detection
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07:50.58khemkoen: it seems thats not happening
07:51.27khemkoen: the libs are there in tmp/work/armv5te-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/eglibc-2.6
07:51.27khem+svn20070808-r0/image/lib
07:51.39khembut they dont appear in tmp/rootfs
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07:54.32koendo the created packages look ok?
07:54.34koenhey zecke_
07:54.47koene.g libc6.....ipk
07:58.08hrwre
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08:03.59khemkoen: I see only libc6-dev_2.6+svn20070808-r0_armv5te.ipk
08:04.15koenhey XorA
08:04.23khembut in glibc case there is libc6_2.5-r6_armv5te.ipk also
08:04.58koenkhem: so it looks like it didn't create libc6_2.6+svn20070808-r0_armv5te.ipk
08:06.28khemkoen: hmmm ok how come the build completed without it
08:06.28khemkoen: where should I look for fixing this ?
08:07.17koenbitbake -b eglibc_svn.bb -c install -f
08:07.29koenand see which files it installs
08:07.49koen(tmp/work/armv5te....../eglibc-..../image/)
08:09.49khemkoen: install looks good
08:10.02khemkoen: all libs are there in image/lib
08:10.12koenbitbake -b eglibc_svn.bb -c package -f
08:10.20koenany weird warnings there?
08:10.29khemlemme try that
08:10.50koenthat will collect the files and put them in tmp/work/armv5te....../eglibc-..../install/<subpackage>
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08:12.27XorAmornig
08:15.09khemkoen: the install directory has mixture of eglibc and glibc folders
08:16.32CIA-303marek.vasut 07org.oe.dev * r76fec634... 10/ (1 packages/libopie/libopie2_cvs.bb): libopie2: use proper var for CVS version
08:16.39CIA-303marek.vasut 07org.oe.dev * r88c64741... 10/ (1 packages/libqpe/libqpe-opie_cvs.bb): libqpe: use proper var for CVS version
08:16.45CIA-303hrw 07org.oe.dev * rf048a9ba... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): palm machine configs: fix names in comments
08:18.34koenkhem: it is collected from ../image, so it should be only from eglibc
08:18.48koenbitbake -b eglibc_svn.bb -c package_write -f
08:18.58koenthat will output the filenames it creates
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08:30.36khemkoen: I am going to try this patch http://pastebin.ca/649623
08:31.00khemkoen: I will fire a clean build and sleep now  and will continue tomorrow
08:31.55koenkhem: those lines only work in the virtual OE namespace, they don't have anything to do with packaging errors
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08:32.08khemkoen: ok
08:32.30koencould you pastebin the output of package_write?
08:32.38koen(run -c install -f first)
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08:33.50khemkoen: I deleted whole tmp
08:34.13khemstarted fresh build I made note of it and will check tomorrow
08:34.57khemkoen: are these bitbake -c stuff documented somewhere
08:35.22khemI believe should be in bb manual somewhere
08:35.45Marexkoen, if you are not interested in that patch I sent, I dont mind
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08:41.05hrwkoen: can you remind me proper way of disapprove?
08:41.21hrwmtn disapprove revnumber - and then?
08:41.31koenmtn sync
08:41.43koenor if the commit is in the past, mtn merge
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08:51.22CIA-303hrw 07org.oe.dev * r936655d7... 10/ (1 packages/libqpe/libqpe-opie_cvs.bb): disapproval of revision '88c64741ce48efad01b051c81bcb07df08267748'
08:51.48koenhrw: and a mail to the list why it was disapproved
08:54.19hrwsent
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09:28.21floriangood morning
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10:22.00rschusterhi. I have a machine with the following /etc/ipkg/arch.conf: arch all 1, arch any 6, arch noarch 11, arch arm 16, arch ereader 21 (comma is line break). how should my PACKAGE_EXTRA_ARCHS look like to build compatible packages (without changing arch.conf)?
10:30.48koenmickeyl: good morning!
10:30.54mickeylGuten Morgen koen
10:31.20mickeylkoen: i see eglibc is progressing, very cool. how far are we from an angstrom-eglibc booting?
10:31.49koenmickeyl: not far I think
10:31.52mickeylgreat
10:32.17koenmickeyl: the big trouble is that eglibc and glibc can't be seperated using multimachine like glibc and uclibc
10:32.29mickeylkoen: no? why's that?
10:32.41koenit's the same thing
10:32.46mickeyloops
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10:32.54koeneglibc is basically a patched glibc
10:32.57koendo_stage() {
10:32.58koen<PROTECTED>
10:32.58koen<PROTECTED>
10:32.59koen<PROTECTED>
10:32.59koen<PROTECTED>
10:33.07mickeyloh
10:33.10mickeyli see
10:33.35mickeylso this is not another build-from-the-groundup thing, but rather a patched version that's not (yet?) accepted by upstream?
10:33.44koenyes
10:33.56koenthey import glibc svn into their eglibc svn tree AIUI
10:34.16mickeylaah, i see. interesting. one needs to see the benefits of this approach
10:34.22mickeylless compatibility hell compared to uclibc
10:34.23koenpropably because mr drepper refuse to apply patches to make x-compiling easier
10:34.53koenbtw, glibc 2.6 + gcc 4.2 works
10:35.16mickeylgood to know. should we upgrade A soon?
10:35.27koenI'm not sure
10:35.29mickeyloh btw., i think we can remove the default preference from gtk+ 2.10.14
10:35.50mickeylflorian: what do you think re. gtk+?
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10:36.30mickeylhi mithro
10:36.35mickeylhow are you ?
10:37.28mithromickeyl: pretty good
10:37.39mickeylgood. how are your studies going on?
10:37.42mithrodid I tell you that I graduated last week on Tuesday?
10:37.47mickeylwoo
10:37.49mickeylCONGRATS!
10:37.59mickeylgreat! what are you up to next?
10:37.59koenmithro: congrats
10:38.27florianmickeyl: I think we should... there are some open issues, but we need some motivation to fix these.
10:38.37mithromickeyl: looking for jobs
10:38.52mithrobeing really slack about putting together my resume
10:39.12Crofton|homeget a tin cup and hang out at trade shows
10:39.22mithrowas waiting to see if I got a scholarship at Uni to do some SDR stuff, but it looks like that has fallen through
10:40.01mickeylflorian: ok. i'm going to do it then.
10:40.29mickeylmithro: which area do you want to work on/in?
10:40.46florianmickeyl: do you know which patches from the previous releases are missing?
10:40.53mithromickeyl: ideally I would like to work on something FOSS related
10:41.16mickeylflorian: no, let me check
10:41.46rschusterhow can I enforce that packages built in OE against glibc 2.3.5 can be installed on a system with a glibc 2.3.2 without the need to use -force-depends?
10:42.53mithromickeyl: but there is pretty slim pickings in that area here in adelaide
10:43.36koenmickeyl: seen the new imac?
10:43.39florianmickeyl: _law_ Did a pretty good job making GTK 2.11 work properly... including SMS-like input and keypad navigation.
10:43.42mickeylflorian: i can't see anything substantial missing except the keynav patches. and i think a couple of those are upstream yet aren't they?
10:43.55mickeylflorian: oh really? didn't know that. it's not in oe
10:43.55florianmickeyl: yes
10:44.19mickeylkoen: not yet. i bought lots of things yesterday, i'm broke now
10:44.37koenmickeyl: they are brushed alu now
10:44.49florianmickeyl: he intended to submit these...
10:44.49koenincluding alu keyboard
10:44.54slapinhi, all! I have .ext2 image generated by genext2fs, now I need to turn it into bootable hard disk image, is it possible? Geometry is known.
10:44.56mickeyl_law_: ping
10:45.10floriankoen: but with a glossy screen... what a pain :-/
10:45.29florianthe case and keyboard looks really great
10:45.58florianmickeyl: http://helmsdeep.homelinux.net/~pat/oe/tornado/
10:46.41_law_mickeyl, pong
10:47.08koenflorian: you can buy the keynoard seperately
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10:47.31koenflorian: how about gtk 2.12?
10:47.57mickeyl_law_: hi. i heard you had a set of gtk+ 2.11 ready? we'd appreciate it seeing in .dev :)
10:48.44mickeylflorian: ah. i'd say go for it w/ DEFAULT_PREFERENCE=-1
10:49.13mickeylwell, i wouldn't use their keyboards anyways
10:49.23mickeylit's ms natural for me -- nothing else comes close
10:49.28floriankoen: 2.12 is not ready... or do you know more than me?
10:49.48florianmickeyl: sure
10:49.54Crofton|homekoen, I suspect my libtool-1.5.24 is clsely related to the need to add the -lstdc++ flag to builds for teh Efika
10:50.16Crofton|homefor example libusb adds that flag globally, but is not needed at least for the OSK
10:51.13Crofton|homeshould we make the -lstdc++ apply only for efika/ppc in libusn
10:51.34mickeyldo you really need full stdc++ ?
10:51.39mickeylsupc doesn't work?
10:51.40_law_mickeyl, http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=460858 i have also posted them to bugzilla
10:52.00Crofton|homemickeyl, not familiar with supc
10:52.28Crofton|homethe problem remains, there is something fishy in the toolchain used on Efika wrt to -lstdc++ handling
10:52.56_law_have to go now. bbl
10:53.27mickeylibot: botmail to _law_: ok, thanks. could you commit them w/ DEFAULT_PREFERENCE=-1 when you have a chance?
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10:56.29koenflorian: I think I got confused with glib 2.12
10:56.32koenehm
10:56.33koen2.14
10:57.47floriankoen: :-)
10:59.40CIA-303mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rbacc3c96... 10/ (64 files in 5 dirs):
10:59.40CIA-3gtk+: drop 2.10.9 to 2.10.12, promote 2.10.14 as the new default version
10:59.40CIA-32.11 will be added soon w/ DEFAULT_PREFERENCE=-1. If you still need 2.6.10,
10:59.40CIA-3please set your PREFERRED_PROVIDER accordingly.
10:59.46CIA-303koen 07org.oe.dev * r99ddf3e8... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): roadmap: add gtk2 version
10:59.50CIA-303koen 07org.oe.dev * r4cdf2bbe... 10/ (1 packages/roadmap/files/cross.patch): roadmap: add missing patch
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11:04.16florianhi woglinde
11:05.10woglindehi florian
11:05.23stelioskhi all
11:06.11stelioskkoen : thanks for the tip on the FIC, will let it connected on the usb hub all the time
11:07.02koenor remove the battery when you're not using it/transporting it
11:09.07rschusterglibc_2.3.3 should not be available for arm. it does not contain any patches (especially no arm-ioperm.patch which makes the build fail). file a bug?
11:09.13koenZero_Chaos: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2722
11:09.57koenehm
11:10.05cdbot2* * OE Bug 2722 has been created by <koen>
11:10.07cdbot2* * Seppuku.bbclass triggers recursion error
11:10.09cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2722
11:10.15koen~botmail for zecke:  http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2722
11:10.20Crofton|homekoen, when you get teh AB running, try libtool-1.5.24
11:10.33woglindekoen do you understand german?
11:10.35Crofton|homeI am guessing it will work for all but Efika ...
11:10.48koenwoglinde: jawohl!
11:10.52woglindekoen -> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/93966
11:11.07woglindewe are violating patents
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11:11.52koen". In dem 2004 anerkannten Patent 6,784,873 geht es um eine virtuelle Tastatur, die auf einem berührungsempfindlichen Bildschirm angezeigt wird."
11:12.03koenvkb on ts
11:12.11woglindekoen yes
11:12.19koen"berührungsempfindlichen Bildschirm"
11:12.28woglindetouchscreen
11:12.28koenthat's a neat word (or 2)
11:12.32woglindeyes
11:13.19Crofton|home“patent Trollerlei”
11:13.28florian:-)
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11:14.40florianwoglinde, koen: http://fl0rian.wordpress.com/2006/02/21/prior-art/
11:14.58dcordes|akitahow to apply the sound statefile in the attatchment of
11:15.00florianwe had a similar one before :-)
11:15.04koen~hail http://live.gnome.org/GnomeCookbook
11:15.04ibotACTION bows down to http://live.gnome.org/GnomeCookbook and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!"
11:15.06dcordes|akita!oebug 2667
11:15.07cdbot2* * Bug 2667, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-07-19 08:07
11:15.08cdbot2* * uncle.grog(AT)gmail.com: Sound problems with recent kernels a.k.a. asound statefiles need updating
11:15.09cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2667
11:15.27rschusterthe patent is from 2004. there is a c64 emulator having a virtual keyboard much longer IMHO
11:16.15woglindehm they filed it in at   August 4, 2000
11:16.38woglindeflorian yes I know prior-art
11:17.22florianwoglinde: sure... but that more or less about the same thing but with apple on the other side.
11:18.19woglindelol
11:18.28woglindeapple file in the same patent
11:18.33woglindethey are so dump
11:18.43woglindeaeh dull
11:18.50koen~lart uni network morons
11:18.50ibothits uni network morons with an anvil and laughs with a contralto voice ... Haha Ha HA Ha
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11:20.48mickeyl:D
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11:21.28woglindehe mickeyl
11:21.35woglindelol the iphone simcard cloning
11:21.44dcordes|akitacould somebody help?
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11:23.29mickeylhi woglinde
11:24.09Crofton|homeIs Munich Uni of Technology any good?
11:24.20mickeylwell
11:24.29mickeylit's not exactly known for its IT department
11:24.35florianmickeyl, koen: That bug is one for zaurus users :-)
11:24.36mickeylbut it shouldn't be bad
11:24.41Crofton|home:)
11:25.02Crofton|homeI got an email from a guy there about SDR on a Davinci board
11:25.03mickeylflorian: i even forgot where i put my Zaurus battery
11:25.16mickeylflorian: and i mean, the whole series of Zauruses, not one battery ;)
11:25.27florianCrofton|home: its quite likely to be a good choice... the Munich area is nice as well - but living there is expensive.
11:25.41florianmickeyl: oh well
11:25.44Crofton|homeSo I should visit then :)
11:25.53mickeylno chance to unpack them since the move
11:26.17Crofton|homeMy wife's parents met south of Munich after the war
11:26.38florianmickeyl: heh
11:27.24Crofton|homeInstitue for Integrated Systems
11:27.32florianmickeyl: Is one of the OE clamshells idle currently?
11:28.10woglindecrofton it is a good uni
11:29.11Crofton|homeI need to get the guy interested in OE also
11:32.42CIA-303florian 07org.oe.dev * r841bb9cf... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-hackndev-2.6/palmtx/defconfig): linux-hackndev-2.6: Update palmtx defconfig to make it build again.
11:32.46CIA-303florian 07org.oe.dev * r7dac8ac9... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-hackndev-2.6_svn.bb): linux-hackndev-2.6: bump PR
11:32.51CIA-303koen 07org.oe.dev * r87682066... 10/ (1 classes/seppuku.bbclass):
11:32.51CIA-3seppuku.bbclass: fix indentation
11:32.51CIA-3* grrrrr, stupid python
11:32.57woglindecrfoton what is he doing?
11:33.02woglindethe guy?
11:33.09mickeylflorian: for sure. i don't think hrw and zecke are using theirs a lot
11:33.32woglinde*g* zecke has no time
11:33.37mickeylyea
11:33.47Crofton|homewoglinde, wireless communication
11:33.54woglindecrofton ah hm
11:36.11florianmickeyl: I do not have time too, but I would like to play with GPE on then and try to improve support for them a little bit.
11:39.59koenflorian: like the annoying 'backlight switches off' bug?
11:41.22floriankoen: I don't know, do I have a Zaurus? ;)
11:41.42floriankoen: but let me guess: ipaq-sleep?
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11:42.23koenflorian: most likely
11:42.53koenit seems 'gpe' assumes you have a powerbutton that can be held to enable backlight and that your LCD is transflective
11:43.13koenbut on a zaurus backlight of means screen unreadable
11:45.45floriankoen: indeed... the defaults might be bad for most modern devices
11:56.33floriankoen: yeah
11:56.45eekeeI don't think transflective works nicely with a high-rez LCD
11:58.43florianeekee: it works with 110dpi what I have on my laptop which lacks this feature
12:01.11eekeeoh o.o;
12:03.15eekeeI was thinking of the segment shadows you see in watches, & I dunno how polarizing reflectors work
12:04.38woglindebye
12:04.43eekeeanyway, I'm a bit worried abotu my spitz. Had to reboot many times because I couldnt' make the screen come back & a couple of times had to pull the battery out because it wouldn't come back after reset. Now it's not coming back after I pull the battery out :/
12:04.48eekeebai woglinde
12:05.07eekeeor after I put it back in even :o)
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12:05.57eekeeah, it's on now. maybe have to leave it for a bit after I put the battery in or something. It's all rather worrisome
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12:07.35CIA-303lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r05cc5d66... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
12:07.35CIA-3p3scan 2.9.05d: Fix up configure.in to work with the recently updated
12:07.35CIA-3m4/autotools. It wasn't happy about the lack of a new line at the end of
12:07.35CIA-3configure.in.
12:10.06eekeeI could probably cook up a script to keep the backlight on when needed...
12:10.34eekeewell, not script as it would have to know when the last key was pressed, but..
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12:11.59stelioskkoen : should i use fic1 or fic2 as machines ?
12:12.27stelioskfic1=fic-gta1
12:13.10koen_gta01
12:13.44eekeebtw I tried setting one of the buttons to run "bl 120" but that resulted in the buttons no longer working at all.
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12:15.16koensteliosk: I'll mail it tomorrow
12:15.25koensteliosk: I included an openmoko sticker :)
12:16.12stelioskheh thanks :)
12:24.04cdbot2* * OE Bug 2721 has been REOPENED by <polyonymous>
12:24.06cdbot2* *  various opie/palm related fixes
12:24.08cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2721
12:25.36psycomani have some troubles bbing task-e-x11
12:25.50psycomanstill have to be more precise
12:26.03psycomanmakedepend native dont compile
12:26.17psycomani ahve deleted all my tmp dir and rebuild all but dont work
12:26.19psycomanhttp://pastebin.com/d5937d1b8
12:26.25psycomanhere is the error
12:29.18hrwre
12:29.18hrwmickeyl: I do not have OE clamshell
12:29.18hrwmickeyl: I have OE tosa and alix
12:29.50mickeylok. who did you give the C3K ?
12:31.15hrwlaibsch on fosdem
12:31.32hrwmickeyl: it is listed on projectdevices wiki page
12:40.04cdbot2* * OE Bug 2723 has been created by waldecir(AT)gmail.com
12:40.06cdbot2* * makedepend do_compile problem: No rule  to make target `makedepend.@APP_MAN_SUFFIX@', needed by `all-am'.
12:40.09cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2723
12:41.16stelioskqemu-native uses host gcc now or still requires gcc 3.4.4 ?
12:43.07CIA-303mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * re51f6d1c... 10/ (1 packages/matchbox2/matchbox-panel-2_svn.bb): matchbox-panel2 ship plugin *.la in debug package (QA fix)
12:43.16CIA-303mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r54fa1e3c... 10/ (1 packages/openmoko2/openmoko-terminal2_1.0.0.bb): openmoko-terminal2: supply sane font defaults to mrxvt
12:44.18hrwsteliosk: host
12:44.28hrwsteliosk: I found second problem with Alix board
12:44.38hrwsteliosk: 2.5" cables are impossible to get
12:44.49stelioskhmmm ok, then we can build it using icecc also ;)
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12:56.20Crofton|homekoen, is there an easy way to try build with gcc-4.2.x?
12:56.29stelioskhrw : any idea why its using gcc 3.4 instead of gcc 4.1.2 ?
12:56.53Crofton|homethis must add -lstdc++ for Efika is going to drive me insane
12:57.25hrwsteliosk: qemu?
12:57.33stelioskqemu-native
12:57.52hrwsteliosk: qemu can be built only with gcc3 - upstream refuse to use gcc4
12:59.17stelioskhrw : hmmm so that did not change then.... I was under the impression it had
12:59.42stelioskyou need to have gcc3 installed in host
12:59.56stelioskand icecc to build a package for it
13:00.37koenwe have a patch in OE that makes it build with gcc4
13:01.21koenCrofton|home: angstrom-2007.1.conf, line 176
13:01.31stelioskkoen : in bugtracker  ?
13:01.38koenno, in .dev
13:01.56stelioskbut i am building dev
13:02.16stelioskjust synced with the repo
13:02.16koenif it finds 3.4 it will use 3.4
13:02.32koensince that's what the qemu dudes recommend
13:03.09koensteliosk: why? gcc 3.4 is the recommended option
13:03.33stelioski want to try and see if icecc/gcc4 will work
13:03.51stelioskwith qemu
13:04.11stelioskits one of the packages that's excluded by default from using icecc
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13:06.57stelioskits distributing build jobs :) lets see if it builds
13:07.07CIA-303koen 07org.oe.dev * r583da5d8... 10/ (1 packages/matchbox2/matchbox-panel-2_svn.bb): matchbox-panel-2: .a and .la files go into -dev packages, not into -dbg packages
13:07.35Crofton|homekoen, I compare the lines from libtool for OSK and Efika, and cannot figure out why one links c++ ok, and the other fails
13:07.46Crofton|homekoen, So maybe it is a problem in gcc?
13:08.39stelioskCrofotn|home : Are you using gcc 4.1.2 ?
13:08.43Crofton|homeyes
13:08.52Crofton|homewhatever default for angstrom is
13:08.58Crofton|homewhich is 4.1.2
13:09.23Crofton|homeand comparing compile logs for libusb for OSK (omap5912osk) and Efika
13:09.30stelioskso gcc 4.1.2 + newer libtool = fails to builds c++ ?
13:09.36Crofton|homewell
13:09.58Crofton|homeolder libtool needs the CXXFLAGS_powerpc = -lstdc++ hack
13:10.29Crofton|homelibusb used -lsdtc++ for all machines, but it is not needed for OSK
13:11.12Crofton|homeSO I think I will try builds with 4.2.1 and see if the behavior imporves
13:11.28Crofton|homeand I can work on other stuff while the build runs :)
13:11.30stelioskkoen : Do you get the shared libriaries build in OSK ?
13:11.45Crofton|homesteliosk, they are build
13:11.50Crofton|homelibstdc++.so?
13:11.55stelioskyes
13:12.11Crofton|homeI'll post some logs in a bit
13:12.15Crofton|homehang on
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13:24.42Crofton|homehttp://pastebin.ca/649856
13:24.53Crofton|homelibtool and gcc lines for OSK and Efika builds
13:25.43Crofton|homeNote this appears in both: #
13:25.44Crofton|home/home/balister/oe/tmp/cross/powerpc-angstrom-linux/
13:25.44Crofton|home#
13:25.44Crofton|homelib/libstdc++.so
13:27.03koenCrofton: gcc3-build-cross.inc line 47
13:27.19koenit works as intended on everythign except ppc
13:28.12Crofton|homegcc4?
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13:31.00Crofton|homeok, that file included in gcc4 cross
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13:34.28stelioskCrofotn|home : I have not looked into the problem but i believe that's a libtool issue
13:36.56Crofton|homewell
13:37.10Crofton|homelibtool does not know about the underlying machine
13:37.31Crofton|homeit feeds nearly identical lines to gcc for linking
13:37.48Crofton|homeand the OSK version finds stdc++, and ppc does not
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13:38.06Crofton|homeand we have to have bb files to link c++ for ppc
13:40.01Crofton|homes/hack/have/
13:47.24stelioskCrofotn|home : did you try to build any other gcc+ app ?
13:47.43steliosks/gcc+/c++
13:48.22Crofton|homegot one in mind?
13:48.41Crofton|homebitbake omniorb
13:49.49Crofton|homeinteresting, no -lstdc++ line there
13:49.59Crofton|homehmm
13:50.06Crofton|homemaybe it does not use libtool
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13:51.17Crofton|homeWhat we would really nice is to know what platforms do not build with libtool-1.5.24
13:51.33Crofton|homeIt is 50% for me :) OSK, good, Efika bad
13:51.55CIA-303pH5 07org.oe.dev * r1e604e78... 10/ (6 files in 3 dirs):
13:51.55CIA-3oprofile: add 0.9.3, update cvs, drop 0.9.1 left-overs
13:51.55CIA-3- the no_arm_mapping_syms and opcontrol_bashisms patches are applied upstream
13:52.00CIA-303koen 07org.oe.dev * r0bb67ca8... 10/ (1 classes/update-rc.d.bbclass): update-rc.d: merge in ${D} cleanups from poky
13:53.03koenmickey|DIY, RP: http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2007-August/002754.html
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13:56.23Crofton|homekoen, the inc fiel you refer to only operates on the .a library
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14:03.20chouimatmorning
14:05.22XorA~lart CSS
14:05.22ibotinstalls PocketPC on CSS's PDA
14:05.49hrwcss is good
14:05.53hrwbrowsers stuxx
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14:09.29XorAhrw: simple quition if I have <li class="blah"><a href="blah"></li> that css magic do I use to style that <a>
14:10.16XorAI cant change the format of <a> :-(
14:10.38koenCrofton|home:  sed -i "s|dependency_libs\s*=\s*.*|dependency_libs='-L${CROSS_DIR}/${TARGET_SYS}/lib -lgcc_s -lc -lm '|" ${CROSS_DIR}/${TARGET_SYS}/lib/libstdc++.la || true
14:11.39Crofton|homemy sed is poor
14:12.12Crofton|homeyou are adding a -L to the cross libdir?
14:13.09koenwe are replacing the contents of dependency_libs
14:13.19koenbut I think that is a red herring
14:13.32Crofton|homewhat is dependency libs?
14:14.01Crofton|homeI think the question we must answer is "Why do some bb files need the -lstdc++ for PPC/Efika?"
14:14.02koenthe stuff it needs to link to itself
14:14.34polyonymousXorA, li.blah a { ... } ?
14:15.42Crofton|homedamn, I have a copy of "sed and awk" right here
14:16.20hrwXorA: li.blah a.blah { styles }
14:16.56hrwor li.blah a {} if you want any <a> in <li class='blah'>
14:17.04Crofton|home~seen kergoth
14:17.05ibotkergoth is currently on #wowi-lounge (8d 18h 31m 24s) #oe (8d 18h 31m 24s) #wowhead (8d 18h 31m 24s) #norganna (8d 18h 31m 24s) #wowace (8d 18h 31m 24s) #elinux (8d 18h 31m 24s). Has said a total of 361 messages. Is idling for 15h 47m 35s, last said: 'hehe'.
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14:20.16XorAhrw: ah cheers, I musta bread deaded it first time around
14:20.26XorAs/bread/brain/
14:20.55hrwXorA: the common problem with css for people is that elements inherit from parent which inherit from parent which ....
14:21.17XorAhrw: yeah I was finding that :-)
14:21.33XorAhrw: that firebug is awesome btw
14:21.37hrwyes
14:22.06hrwXorA: firebug talk was on my list during fosdem. but it was cancelled ;(
14:22.43XorAI particulary like the fact it tells you what style you overrode to get where you are
14:29.51CIA-303pH5 07org.oe.dev * r227d9d16... 10/ (1 packages/angstrom/angstrom-x11-image.bb): angstrom-x11-image: replace openmoko-dialer with openmoko-dialer2
14:29.55CIA-303koen 07org.oe.dev * rbf37569e... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2008.1.conf): angstrom: add 2008.1 file, see comments within
14:30.26Crofton|homewhat is 2008.1?
14:30.39koenCrofton|home: see comments within :)
14:30.59Crofton|homeer koen
14:31.18koen# This is a testbed for unstable and/or untested things, while angstrom-2007.1
14:31.18koen# is aiming for stability and a release.
14:31.19koen# Use this at your own risk, we welcome bugreports filed at
14:31.19koen#    http://bugs.openembedded.org
14:31.20koen# In doubt, use DSITRO="angstrom-2007.1"
14:31.34koengah
14:32.22koenwooooh
14:32.28koenI can access fd.o again
14:37.33Crofton|homeawesome
14:39.24chouimathttp://qdb.us/
14:39.40chouimathttp://qdb.us/bottom <---- interesting
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14:45.33koen"iphone shuffle, no screen and it phones random people"
14:47.22chouimathehe
14:48.28koenhttp://bash.org/?785888
14:48.48mickey|DIYkoen: that's a major refactoring. I'm afraid of subtle changes. did you test some images?
14:49.01chouimatkoen ROFL
14:49.20koenmickey|DIY: with package.bbclass?
14:49.23mickey|DIYya
14:49.33koennot yet, you'd have to ask RP
14:50.02hrwyou will get messages about stripping debiug files
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14:51.09hrwdebus I mean
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14:53.24koennoglitch: did you mention a at91 patch for 2.6.22?
14:56.43hrwBFD: /home/hrw/devel/OH/poky/build/tmp-poky/work/armv5te-poky-linux-gnueabi/xmodmap-1_1.0.2-r0/image/usr/bin/.debug/xmodmap: warning: sh_link not set for section `.ARM.exidx'
14:56.52hrwthat one
14:57.01koenright
14:57.18koenyou get those when you run gdb with the current bbclass as wel
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14:57.36RPkoen: They're currently in the RUNSTRIP logfiles
14:58.07RPkoen: I've asked on the arm-linux list, the binutils list and have now mailed Paul Brook directly about them since he added that section support to binutils ;-)
14:58.19koen:)
14:58.47RPmickey|DIY: Those changes seem stable in poky FWIW
14:59.37mickey|DIYRP: i don't doubt that. i'm just afraid of different behaviour thanks to possible other things where poky and .dev differ
14:59.40noglitchkoen: not yet... -rc5
14:59.46mickey|DIYs/possible//
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15:00.16RPmickey|DIY: I know, it needs a RFC/T...
15:00.31RPMy gut feeling says it should be ok though
15:01.17koenthat's why I sent it to the mailinglist :)
15:02.39RPIt would be possible to split that patch into about four separate logical patch units
15:02.53RP(if that helps)
15:04.30mickey|DIYsplitting always helps
15:04.51hrwsvn d -crev >rev.diff helps ;)
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15:07.46hrwbye
15:08.58koencute, a mmc host test kernel module
15:09.14koensounds usefull for collie
15:09.24koen(on LAK)
15:15.41CIA-303koen 07org.oe.dev * r6fcbcfd5... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2008.1.conf): angstrom-2008.1: fix typo in comments
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15:20.57koenmickey|DIY: http://svnweb.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/artwork/themes/openmoko-standard-2/gtk-2.0/openmoko-dialer?rev=2666&view=diff&r1=2666&r2=2665&p1=trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/artwork/themes/openmoko-standard-2/gtk-2.0/openmoko-dialer&p2=/trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/artwork/themes/openmoko-standard-2/gtk-2.0/openmoko-dialer
15:21.05koenmickey|DIY: "IOError: [Errno 2] No usable temporary directory found in ['/tmp', '/var/tmp', '/usr/tmp', '/usr/lib/cgi-bin']"
15:22.04mickey|DIYnasty
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15:24.27mickey|DIYno idea what's up there
15:24.32mickey|DIYi'll tell the admin
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15:40.35mickey|DIYkoen: hmm the web server suffers from a full partition
15:40.40mickey|DIYthat's the reason
15:40.46koenouch
15:41.27mickey|DIYibot: botmail to LaF0rge: sita is full, please increase the simfs size
15:42.24CIA-303koen 07org.oe.dev * r6fcbcfd5... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2008.1.conf): angstrom-2008.1: fix typo in comments
15:42.27koenif it is I can hear people curse centralized scms
15:44.00khemkoen: morning
15:44.06koenhey khem
15:44.14khemkoen: I have the log for package_write
15:44.35koencould you put it online somewhere?
15:44.41khemkoen: strangely its generating the locale packages starting with glibc-
15:47.39summatusmentishas anyone setup OE on OS X?
15:49.21khemkoen: I am trying but some times upload suck on my connection I dont know why
15:51.35khemkoen: http://paste.debian.net/34225
15:56.40khemkoen: it seems we need a separate eglibc-package.bbclass
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15:57.56khemkoen: may be create it as a separate package like uclibc
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16:20.52koengnah
16:21.02koenI know I shouldn't have tried to compile ffmpeg
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16:23.03florianhello jg
16:23.30floriankoen: any idea why .debug crap and some unstripped libraries end up in the filesytems?
16:23.52koenmost likely bad packaging
16:24.19koenthe unstripped stuff can be fixed by reviewing the patch on the mailinglist :)
16:26.02floriankoen: which one?
16:26.17koen"[oe] merging package.bbclass with poky, please review diff"
16:29.01pH5good evening
16:29.02pH5florian: can you check in which packages those files are? my latest bitbake angstrom-x11-image installed some -dbg packages into the rootfs and I have no clue why.
16:30.37koenpH5, florian: check the Packages file in deploy and see if a non -dbg package depends on a -dbg package
16:30.42rob_wcan anybody give me a hint on how to use the intel ixp4xx npe stuff on oe ?
16:31.06floriankoen: oh... advanced stripping for the packages..
16:31.15florianpH5: i'll check
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16:31.55CIA-303koen 07org.oe.dev * r6fcbcfd5... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2008.1.conf): angstrom-2008.1: fix typo in comments
16:32.58pH5déjà vu
16:35.13koenhmmm
16:35.27koenwhy did I just eat all eggs before reading http://www.barisione.org/blog.html/p=96 ?
16:37.11floriankoen: uhhhh
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16:44.53vivijimkoen I built a mamona i586 but my system believe that it is i386 instead of i586 so somethings are breaking... (dpkg for instance) do you have any idea?
16:45.03koenhmmm
16:45.13koenyou'd have to ask RP about dpkg stuff
16:45.45CIA-1403koen 07org.oe.dev * r6fcbcfd5... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2008.1.conf): angstrom-2008.1: fix typo in comments
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16:49.36KhemWorkkoen: did u find something in the logs I posted
16:51.19koenKhemWork: nothing obvious
16:51.38koenKhemWork: I added a eglibc-package.bbclass
16:52.00KhemWorkkoen: cool once I get this packaging sorted out it will help in locale
16:52.54KhemWorkkoen: once it works may be it should be a separate package unless you are thinking of dropping glibc in favor of eglibc ")
16:53.10CIA-1403koen 07org.oe.dev * r6fcbcfd5... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2008.1.conf): angstrom-2008.1: fix typo in comments
16:53.39koenKhemWork: what do you mean with 'a seperate package'?
16:53.50KhemWorkkoen: Like uclibc glibc
16:54.11KhemWorka third library
16:54.14koencould you explain a bit more?
16:54.50koenOE splits on the host triplet, e.g. amr-linux-gnueabi vs arm-linux-uclibc-gnueabi
16:54.55KhemWorkI think it is just structural I think we added all eglibc stuff inside package/glibc
16:55.01koenbut since eglibc is jsut like glibc we can't do that
16:55.09KhemWorkI thought it would be more symbolic to have packages/eglibc
16:55.27KhemWorkyeah thats true thats why I think its ok
16:57.38KhemWorkkoen: I see that install/glibc folder is empty inside eglibc install
16:57.51KhemWorkbut this is populated in glibc install
16:58.16stelioskhow is a an application package going to be "differentiated" in the feeds ? now libc uclibc are 2 different things
16:59.00eekeewhat is libc? Is it == glibc? Is it a meta-package?
16:59.03KhemWorksteliosk: if it is an eglibc question than I already trashed my suggestion
16:59.50koensteliosk: DEPLOY_DIR = "${TMPDIR}/deploy/${ANGSTROM_MODE}"
17:00.06koensteliosk: after that I trust the sanity of the uploader :)
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17:01.07stelioskKhemWork : Yes it was. I was thinking about it, when i first saw eglibc (not your patches)
17:02.17stelioskkoen : I have a feeling the eglibc should be on a different branch for the time
17:02.20KhemWorksteliosk: actually eglibc is glibc made embedded so ideally there should be only eglibc for embedded systems no glibc but  that what I think may be not everyone
17:02.54koensteliosk: on a branch, why?
17:03.03koensteliosk: uclibc isn't on a branch
17:03.37KhemWorkand the work is very package specific its not touching common parts so much so prolly branch would be overkill
17:03.44stelioskKhemWork : True. We need to handle eglibc as glibc and uclibc and let the user/developer decide on what to use
17:05.19stelioskKhemWork  koen : I think we could at least, as the beggining do so, so we can test it and then integrated it into .dev without too many things breaking
17:05.30koensteliosk: what would break?
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17:05.57stelioskKhemWork  koen : it should be "standard procedure" when doing things like that
17:06.02KhemWorksteliosk: so far koen has been doing great in getting the stuff in nothing broke except eglibc itself :)
17:06.05koenno it shouldn't
17:06.11koenit's called .dev for a reason
17:06.43KhemWorkkoen: Is it safe to use angstrom-2008.1
17:06.54koenand people have to manually select it, so if things break it's their fault
17:07.07koenas in "doctor, it hurts when I poke in my eye"
17:07.12koenKhemWork: it should be
17:07.25KhemWorkkoen: ok
17:07.34koenKhemWork: it works on my at91 board
17:07.47KhemWorkI can try it on osk
17:07.58stelioskkoen : well i have a different view on that, but thats a discussion that we would probably have to do in OEDEM
17:11.35CIA-1403koen 07org.oe.dev * r6fcbcfd5... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2008.1.conf): angstrom-2008.1: fix typo in comments
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17:17.58KhemWorkangstrom-2008 is with 2.6.22 wow thats nice
17:18.15KhemWorkkoen: are there any plans for GCC 4.2
17:19.03koennot before angstrom-2007.1 sees a release :)
17:19.11KhemWorkk
17:19.38KhemWorkI wish 2008 would ship with eglibc
17:20.07woglindere
17:21.51koenKhemWork: if eglibc works it will ship with glibcm, uclibc and eglibc flavours
17:22.41KhemWorkwow cool
17:25.25KhemWorkkoen: where can I find the docs on bitbake -c options ?
17:27.15koenbitbake <foo> -c listtasks
17:27.24koenthat will list all tasks per recipe
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17:32.54KhemWorkkoen: in OE Build Configuration: it would be nice to report LIBC being used
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17:41.31CIA-103florian 07org.oe.dev * rd8f46a90... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-gpe-base.bb): gpe-task-base: Back to Vera fonts... Dejavu is too big.
17:41.48CIA-103florian 07org.oe.dev * rd8f46a90... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-gpe-base.bb): gpe-task-base: Back to Vera fonts... Dejavu is too big.
17:42.01CIA-103florian 07org.oe.dev * rec5c1ed6... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): gpe-bootsplash: Update logos in order to reflect latest GPE release.
17:42.13CIA-103florian 07org.oe.dev * r445066af... 10/ (1 packages/gpe-bootsplash/files/splash-l.svg): gpe-bootsplash: Fix text
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17:42.26CIA-103koen 07org.oe.dev * r6fcbcfd5... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2008.1.conf): angstrom-2008.1: fix typo in comments
17:42.38CIA-103koen 07org.oe.dev * r4f6697ba... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-lib/pixman_0.9.4.bb):
17:42.49CIA-1pixman: add 0.9.4
17:42.58CIA-1* the xserver and cairo will depends on this in upcoming releases
17:43.07CIA-103koen 07org.oe.dev * rbbb9c3e2... 10/ (1 packages/cairo/cairo_git.bb): cairo: add pixman to DEPENDS for git version
17:43.18CIA-103koen 07org.oe.dev * re9119f5e... 10/ (1 packages/glibc/eglibc-package.bbclass): eglibc: add eglibc-package.bbclass based on glibc-package.bbclass
17:43.27CIA-103koen 07org.oe.dev * r76d3b20f... 10/ (1 packages/glibc/eglibc_svn.bb): eglibc: use eglibc-package.bbclass
17:43.38CIA-103koen 07org.oe.dev * r9337a5ff... 10/ (1 packages/ffmpeg/ffmpeg_svn.bb): fffmpeg svn: fix build
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17:47.54KhemWorkmtn: 2 heads on branch 'org.openembedded.dev'
17:47.54KhemWorkmtn: [left]  70aa18fe06d3e3a4ad005666e02d3c53f91a5fa1
17:47.54KhemWorkmtn: [right] 9337a5ff3440772705d464c123d99b9bcbe72cd0
17:47.55KhemWorkmtn: misuse: you have no private key to make signatures with
17:47.55KhemWorkmtn: misuse: perhaps you need to 'genkey <your email>'
17:49.08woglindekhem yes
17:49.14woglindetake one for now
17:49.33woglindemtn -r 9337a5ff3440772705d464c123d99b9bcbe72cd0 up
17:49.36KhemWorkwoglinde: heh left or right
17:49.42woglindedepends
17:49.58woglindeeither you will have koens or florians changes
17:49.59KhemWorkthats the one I have
17:50.08KhemWorkkoens is what I want
17:50.14koenor wait 20 minutes or so for the automerger to kick in
17:50.22KhemWorkah i see
17:50.23woglindeah
17:50.32woglindedidnt know about autokicker yet
17:50.46woglindeaeh automerger
17:50.55KhemWorkso how does automerger work
17:51.23Crofton|homesomeone does a pull update merege push :)
17:51.35koenCrofton|home: no, it's automated :)
17:52.03koenCrofton|home: that's where the oe@openembedded.org commit come from
17:52.35stelioskits a push-pull automerger :)
17:52.44KhemWorkI can not find genkey on my host
17:52.53Crofton|homemtn genkey?
17:53.16woglindemtn enkey you mean?
17:53.21woglindeups genkey
17:53.30woglindeno I will go to basketball training
17:53.31woglindebye
17:59.01stelioskkoen : bootstrap-image for fic-gta01 done :)
18:03.12Crofton|homesteliosk, I tried another C++/libtool lib and had failure on Efika
18:03.27koensteliosk: people still use bootstrap-image?
18:03.30Crofton|homebut can build package on OSK (without -lsdtc++ hack)
18:03.44Crofton|homeadding angstrom to the front is to many cahracters :)
18:04.47stelioskits a benchmark :)
18:06.17Crofton|homeit feels like there is a to stop isse, one need ppc toolchain, two need libtool with C++ target
18:06.18stelioskCrofton|home : you mean same toolchain different lib to build ?
18:06.25Crofton|homeno
18:06.33Crofton|homeI mean it works on arm toolchain
18:06.39Crofton|homebut not on ppc toolchain
18:06.44Crofton|homesame version libtool
18:08.01KhemWorkall-angstrom-linux-gnueabi  armv5te-angstrom-linux-gnueabi omap5912osk-angstrom-linux-gnueabi
18:08.09cbrake_are there any tiny images that are current and work?  Basically I just need a shell, mtdutils, etc.
18:08.10KhemWorkall of them are target packages right
18:08.54stelioskcbrake : angstrom-minimal-image is the smallest
18:09.03cbrakesteliosk: thanks
18:13.32stelioskCrofton|home : No idea why :( Probably will need to make some simple "hello world" programs to see the output and determine where the problem is
18:15.28Croftonyeah
18:15.34Croftonthat is a good idea
18:16.21Crofton|homeI need to the worlds simplest c++ libtool lib
18:16.25Crofton|hometomorrow
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19:01.30CIA-103ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * r0312f6be... 10/ (7 files in 3 dirs):
19:01.34CIA-1packages/asterisk/asterisk_1.2.24.bb: New package asterisk_1.2.24
19:01.41CIA-1Digium release note :Version 1.2.24 is the final 1.2 release that contains normal bug fixes.
19:01.46CIA-1The 1.2 branch will only be maintained with security fix releases from now until it is completely deprecated
19:01.55CIA-1mental note : get 1.4 working from the bugtracker
19:02.03CIA-103cbrake 07org.oe.dev * r1d12a1b6... 10/ (13 files in 3 dirs): compulab-pxa270-2.6.22: add 2.6.22 kernel
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19:18.05cdbot2* * OE Bug 2540 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by skoroneos(AT)digital-opsis.com
19:18.07cdbot2* *  Asterisk 1.4.x recipe
19:18.09cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2540
19:19.47stelioskthat's all for today.
19:19.53stelioskbye
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19:32.24CIA-103ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * r2e543815... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs):
19:32.34CIA-1packages/asterisk/asterisk_1.4.7.bb : New package asterisk 1.4.7
19:32.43CIA-1Package was created by Ovidiu Sas, posted on bugtracker as #2540
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19:45.37hrwmoniing
19:49.53koenhey hrw
19:51.05hrwkoen: ready for tomorrow breakage?
19:52.00koenI don't expect too much breakage
19:52.46osaskoen: asterisk 1.4.10 was released.
19:53.43hrwosas: then provide recipe for it?
19:54.33cbrakeis there any way to speed up udev on boot, or do most people just use static dev entries if you want fast boot?
19:54.48osasjust renaming the files will do it
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19:55.05koencbrake: disable nearly all virtual consoles in the kernel
19:55.55hrwcbrake: use busybox/mdev?
19:56.50cbrakethanks for the suggestions -- I'll give them a try ...
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20:35.19Crofton|homehrw, should we reduce the number of consoles as a general rule?
20:35.33woglindere crofton
20:35.43Crofton|homehi
20:36.02hrwCrofton|home: iirc it is only possible by extra patch for kernel
20:36.11hrwCrofton|home: and it is good stuff
20:36.24Crofton|homehm, guess I need to look closely next time I am config'ing a kernel
20:36.25woglindehe hrw
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20:45.27woglindere khem
20:45.32hrwargh...
20:45.47hrwwhy 2.5" -> 2.5" ata cables must be so hard to find..
20:45.49khemwoglinde: whats up
20:46.21woglindekhem I am still working at midpath
20:46.26koenhrw: because usually you hook up the disk directly to the board
20:46.36koens/board/connector/
20:47.17hrwkoen: which on alix means 90° hdd <>board
20:47.26koennice
20:47.36koencall it 'art' and sell it for $$$$$$$
20:47.38khemwoglinde: nice
20:48.15koenhrw: I remember something about 90° risers
20:49.11hrwkoen: I need cable
20:49.25hrwfor now I know where to buy one in UK
20:51.31hrwkoen: alix has other nice thing - only 12V needed
20:51.35hrwdc-dc onboard
20:51.50koennice
20:52.10koena picopsu is nice as well
20:52.18hrwindeed
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20:56.16khemkoen: adding eglibc.bbclass helped I think now I see all libraries are installed
20:56.28koenyay!
20:56.33khemkoen: it still does not boot though :(
20:56.53woglindekhem no init?
20:57.36khemwoglinde: it is there
20:57.46khembut it does not find it
20:57.54woglindekhem sorry I meant init dont start
20:58.01woglindehm maybee softfloat problem
20:58.11woglindethe kernel finds init but cant execute it
20:58.19khemKernel panic - not syncing Attempted to kill init
20:58.26woglindeyes
20:58.27khemoh well the error message is different
20:58.37khemfrom last time so there is some progress
20:58.37woglindehm
20:58.39woglindesure?
20:58.49khemlast time I mean yesterday
20:58.51woglindethen they have changed
20:59.57khemI think I will use chroot
20:59.59khemand debug this
21:03.43hrwkoen: http://blog.haerwu.biz/2007/08/08/why-alix-board-is-nice-and-why-not-quite/
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21:08.16koenhrw: is a c7500 detectable at runtime?
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21:09.31koen"A display of the 250-horsepower Intel Chopper, built by Intel and Orange County Choppers to showcase Intel embedded technology. Features "a digital dashboard, GPS navigation, wireless connectivity, fingerprint recognition for security, and digital cameras that replace rear-view mirrors," MontaVista says"
21:09.50woglindeui orange county choppers
21:09.57woglindeI know this tv-series
21:10.26koenMACHINE=intel-chopper :)
21:11.14hrwkoen: rahter not
21:11.30chouimatand a 100 000 USD price tag
21:12.03koenchouimat: that's like 5 euros nowadays
21:12.14Crofton|homeouch
21:12.16chouimatkoen yup ...
21:15.03Crofton|homehrw, my mother grew up sort of near Bromley
21:15.14hrwCrofton|home: I never was there
21:16.24Crofton|homebut I see from your blog you may go there
21:16.40woglindeheureka
21:16.44woglindemidpath is in oe
21:16.53Crofton|homeI need to go by sometime and take a picture of the neighborhood
21:16.56woglindeonly some work to do for cacao-clcd
21:16.59woglindeonly some work to do for cacao-cldc
21:17.36timtimrednice lookin bike, shame about the branding
21:18.00hrwkoen: and it is not c7500 but sl-7500
21:18.13koenCrofton|home: tried to get uni sponsoring for OEDEM?
21:18.23woglindeah right
21:18.25woglindeoedem
21:18.45woglindeneed to ask rschuster if tarent will do some sponsoring
21:19.11hrwoedem.. need to talk with mallum about it
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21:19.56Crofton|homekoen, that would be tough
21:20.25Crofton|homeI need some more contracting work so I can list it as a business expense :)
21:20.42Crofton|homehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crofton_Park
21:20.47Crofton|homesource of irc nick :)
21:22.46koenCrofton|home: we have offers of sponsorships
21:22.57koeniirc TT this time
21:23.12Crofton|homewe are hitting the big time!
21:24.02Crofton|homehttp://www-int.etec.uni-karlsruhe.de/seiten/conferences/wsr08/
21:24.14Crofton|homeI really should submit a paper to this workshop
21:24.21Crofton|homethat wouild be easy to get money for
21:24.24Crofton|homefrom uni
21:24.44Crofton|homeyou should look into it :)
21:26.25woglindecrofton karlsruhe is nice
21:26.46Crofton|homeI have a few months to come up with a topic
21:27.31Crofton|homeI need to see if I can line up funding from another org also, need to bring in as much travel money as possible
21:28.54KhemWorkkoen: EGLIBC BOOTS !!!!
21:29.21woglindekhem hui
21:29.28woglindekhem what was the error?
21:29.32Crofton|homecongrats!!
21:29.43KhemWorkwoglinde: I had wrong init in my bootargs
21:30.02KhemWorksometimes its nice to visit uboot and kick it
21:30.13woglindekhem lol
21:31.22KhemWorknext thing I will do is to setup locale generation in cross env which is one of inherent advantages we have in eglibc
21:31.51KhemWorkthen try OE on OMAP2430
21:31.55Crofton|homegrrr
21:32.00Crofton|homeI want one of those
21:32.15KhemWork2430s?
21:32.36KhemWorkI have one for a limited time so I want to use it in good time
21:33.59KhemWorkCrofton|home: so how does source pulling works in OE does it pull the sources from several localtions or are all srcs tar files stored on some central location
21:34.41Crofton|homeboth
21:34.53KhemWorkok
21:34.57Crofton|homeIt can pull from pretty much anywhere net accesible
21:35.04Crofton|homebut angstrom keeps a source cache
21:35.17KhemWorkyeah its on my host too
21:35.27KhemWorkor do u mean a cache elsewhere
21:35.29Crofton|homeYou can pull from a local source dir
21:35.45KhemWorkthat would be cool
21:35.51Crofton|homewatch the screen
21:35.51KhemWorkhow do you do that
21:36.02Crofton|homefile://
21:36.17Crofton|homeI use to export from svn and use that
21:36.24Crofton|homethis was a long time ago
21:36.29KhemWorkk
21:36.34Crofton|homeI now grab straight from svn
21:36.41Crofton|homethis is for my SDR work
21:36.51KhemWorkthats better with good DSL connections these days
21:37.03KhemWorkI just upgraded my connection to 6Mbps
21:38.17Crofton|homeI certainly get my moenys worth from my DSL line
21:38.25KhemWorkme too
21:38.28Crofton|homealthough the uni conncection is much faster :)
21:38.38KhemWorkbesided my family watches streaming videos too :)
21:38.51Crofton|homeheh
21:39.03hrwbye
21:39.06Crofton|homegn
21:39.09woglindenite hrw
21:39.17KhemWorkgood night all
21:39.50KhemWorkI find that there are few left on US East and west cost
21:39.59KhemWorks/cost/coast/
21:40.05Crofton|homeheh
21:40.51Crofton|homeand after working hours on east coast
21:42.31Crofton|homeSo OE supports eglibc now?
21:42.44KhemWorkyep
21:43.16KhemWorkit builds and boots atleast
21:43.51KhemWorkCrofton|home: Though the password is empty for root when I ssh into the box it still asks for it and I just press enter
21:43.53koenyay!
21:43.59Crofton|homegood, I will put that OE supports uclibc, eglibc, and glibc in my thesis :)
21:44.11KhemWorkyes sure :)
21:44.20woglindecrofton hehe
21:44.21Crofton|homehopefully no one actually reads it
21:44.33woglindekhem next week I will test eglibc too
21:44.37KhemWorkand OE will be the first one to have it in working sense
21:44.49Crofton|homewe need an autobuild farm
21:44.54KhemWorkwoglinde: thanks I would like someone with PPC do stuff on it
21:45.02woglindehm
21:45.08woglindeI only have a simpad for now
21:45.10Crofton|homewe can try building for efika
21:45.15KhemWorkthere is some work we did for ppc85xx
21:45.15woglindeqemu-ppc?
21:45.20woglindeqemu-mips?
21:45.26KhemWorkheh qemu-all
21:45.44woglindehm right
21:45.55KhemWorkI am taking a day of tomorrow as its my birthday :)
21:45.58woglindeI have german settop box dbox2
21:46.03woglindewhich ppc mpc823
21:46.06woglinde+is
21:46.20woglindeoh
21:47.33KhemWorkmpc8540 and mpc8548 I think
21:48.50KhemWorkwoglinde: I have angstom-console-image running now suppose I want to add some more packages to the build how would I do it
21:49.28KhemWorklike say ntpdate is one application I need I am sure there is a way to add it to my OE build without much hassle
21:50.15woglindebitbake whatever you like scp it over and do ipkg install
21:50.42KhemWorkah cool
21:50.46koenANGSTROM_EXTRA_INSTALL += "apps I want" in local.conf
21:50.57KhemWorkso is ipkg something like dpkg
21:51.14koenit's dpkg + apt in one
21:51.20koenwith a zillion bugs added
21:51.24KhemWorkoh wow
21:52.00KhemWorkdpkg bugz * apt bugz = ipkg bugz ?
21:52.09koenand then some
21:52.21RPkoen: I just had a look at the state of sync between poky and OE.dev and its not bad. I had a go at merging our base.bbclass and bitbake.conf changes
21:52.30RP(both ways)
21:52.33koenRP: nice
21:52.40woglindehi rp
21:52.46RPhi woglinde
21:52.56koenRP: I like apples FileMerge.app
21:53.02woglinderp merge the git.bb back to poky *g*
21:53.25woglindekoen hm select always c
21:53.30RPwoglinde: What did you do to it?
21:53.30woglinde*hide and duck*
21:53.38woglinderp making it working?
21:53.53woglindewithout sneaking to many hostapps
21:53.57woglinde+in
21:54.00RPwoglinde: I've only used git-native ;-)
21:54.04koenRP: I'd like to have the bbclasses in sync between poky and OE at all times
21:54.16woglindeyeah even git-native fails with zlib.h
21:54.17koenwe can work on syncing packages after that :)
21:54.20woglindewithout
21:55.31RPkoen: I try my best with that, its not that bad atm...
21:55.48RPkoen: package.bbclass being the main exception :/
21:55.53koenyeah
21:56.14koenI usually wait a few days before looking at poky changes to let your autobuilder catch up
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21:56.28RPand insane.bbclass. I need to ask ross whether he wants the changes in the before I overwrite them with zecke's version ;-)
21:57.01RPkoen: Probably a good move :)
21:57.16RPwoglinde: so I see. Your changes make sense ;-)
21:58.11RPwoglinde: However you inheirt native then inherit git, you lose ;-)
21:58.30koenRP: is http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2722 a sideeffect of recent bitbake changes?
21:58.39woglinderp hm why?
21:59.00RPwoglinde: Check the contents of say do_install after you've done that
21:59.06vivijimRP: the debian policy translate x86, i386, i486, i586, i686 and pentium name all to i386 arch name in deb package, so I changed the control file generation of package_deb.bbclass to translate this too...  what do you think about this approach? do you see any problem? I believe that another good thing to do is translate the final names of packages too...
21:59.08RPwoglinde: native must come after autotools
21:59.27woglinderp hm no
21:59.36woglindeI had problems with that
21:59.56woglindebecause native overwrites the do_staging
22:00.16woglindeand that catched me on other package
22:00.21RPvivijim: Do the tools enforce that? I've prefer to leave that open if possible
22:00.49RPwoglinde: native before autotools will break. Trust me on this
22:00.58woglindehm it works
22:01.07woglindeotherwise I wouldnt check it in
22:01.13RPwoglinde: What does its do_install look like?
22:01.23woglindenative?
22:01.25RPwoglinde: You just think it works ;-)
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22:01.27woglindekoen yes
22:01.34vivijimyes, dpkg and apt translate everything to i386 so it is really impossible to install i586 package using dpkg and apt
22:01.39vivijimRP: ^
22:02.07RPvivijim: Are you suggesting to merge the feeds?
22:02.39koenAIUI apt refuses to install foo_i586.deb
22:03.02vivijimRP: only for deb packages... like dpkg and apt do
22:03.06woglinderrp -> http://pastebin.ca/650403
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22:03.46CIA-103koen 07org.oe.dev * r17a80253... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): asterisk: add missing files
22:03.50CIA-103rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r3ac53a3a... 10/ (1 packages/lsof/lsof_4.78.bb): lsof: Build fixes from poky to avoid /usr/include/
22:03.55CIA-103woglinde2 07org.oe.dev * r846702a8... 10/ (9 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)
22:03.55CIA-1midpath: inital support for midpath
22:03.55CIA-1* puts java-cldc1.1 support in oe
22:03.55CIA-1* split in servals packages, because more than one native UI is
22:03.56CIA-1support
22:03.58CIA-1* its support for now qte, qt3x11, x11 and awt
22:04.00CIA-1* there is more work to do for integrate more modules
22:04.00RPvivijim: We can't merge the feeds, that would break the way OE works
22:04.02CIA-103rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r5866a539... 10/ (1 conf/bitbake.conf): bitbake.conf: Merge in section and dependency setting for -dbg and -dev packages (from poky). Start to allow multiple entries in PKG_CONFIG_PATH (from poky)
22:04.05CIA-103rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rcfffbf72... 10/ (1 classes/gtk-icon-cache.bbclass): gtk-icon-cache: Add comment from poky's version
22:04.15RPvivijim: We could refer to them all as i386 though
22:04.19CIA-103rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r7c8c03be... 10/ (1 classes/base.bbclass): base.bbclass: Tweaks from Poky (extra comment, lib handling bugfix to not clobber a variable name and unset DISTRO (to unbreak setting DISTRO as an environment variable)
22:04.25CIA-103koen 07org.oe.dev * r122762c7... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): autoconf: make 2.61 the default, as discussed on the mailinglist
22:05.05khemkoen: gcc still needs autoconf 2.13 on its top dir
22:05.46koenAFAIK we don't regenerate it's autofoo
22:05.46khemi hope OE just uses whatever comes with gcc and do not regenerate
22:05.46Crofton|homeI suppose I should fire of a build or two soon
22:05.50khemcool as long as thats the case its does not matter
22:06.05vivijimRP: I'm not sure if merge is the correct world for this... I believe that all feeds can coexist but when generating the debian package just translate the file name package and the Architecture field in debian/control file
22:06.20vivijimRP s/world/word/g
22:06.28RPvivijim: Yes, I can understand why we might need to do that
22:14.21koenwoglinde: can midpath-qt be built against qt 4.3 with qt3 compat enabled?
22:14.35vivijimRP can or can't? if can't take a look at cputable inside dpkg source code but If can, do you believe that would be a good solution add this kind of patch to package_deb.bbclass:
22:14.35vivijim<PROTECTED>
22:14.45woglindekoen dont know
22:14.55woglindeI didnt try
22:15.15woglindebut It should not be so hard to convert it
22:15.32woglindeI can ask guillaum if he can do this
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22:16.18RPvivijim: I agree we need to do something like that. I'd prefer something more extendable than the if though ;-)
22:16.46vivijimRP: uhm I got your point...
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22:18.25RPvivijim: The neat thing here is that TARGET_ARCH is an override so things like DPKG_ARCH = "${TARGET_ARCH}" DPKG_ARCH_x86 = "i386" will work
22:19.00RPat least I think it is an override...
22:21.11vivijimI believe so
22:21.14koenit is
22:24.27vivijimRP: so if I understood correctly all that we need to change is the fields.append(["Architecture: %s\n", ['TARGET_ARCH']]) to fields.append(["Architecture: %s\n", ['DPKG_ARCH']]) isn't it?
22:25.31vivijimRP: I was crazy about the file name... dpkg-deb that do it using the Architecure field of control...
22:31.24vivijimhehehehehe good idea!
22:39.38koen'sleep 10h' doesn't work
22:40.15woglindehehe
22:40.44koen<command> <file> <options> also doesn't work
22:43.13woglindeargs
22:43.38woglindehow can I commit with monotone and leave one file out
22:44.37koen--exclude <file> --exclude <file2>
22:44.43woglindeokay
22:44.45woglindethanks
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22:54.48Crofton|homeyay exmap-console builds
22:54.52Crofton|homethanks open hand!
22:57.43RPvivijim: Yes, you just need to change that
22:57.49RPCrofton: :)
22:57.59RPCrofton: That got some bugfixes today
22:58.32Crofton|homeI need it working so I can write a paper based on some numbers for it soon :)
22:58.38vivijimRP good idea, I'll try this later
22:59.28RPCrofton|home: Its nice to see people using it :)
23:00.05Crofton|homeIf the paper is not too bad, I'll let you guys know where it is :)
23:00.11woglindecacao-cldc is now in oe
23:00.14RPWe started to use SRCREV in Poky and the crachs appeared :/
23:00.17RPcracks
23:00.28RPCrofton|home: Please do! :)
23:00.50flo_lapwoglinde: cool!
23:01.08koenRP: I use SRCREV locally with some care
23:01.14woglindeflo_lap but there is still work to do
23:01.30koen(makes committing changes annoying, since I have to change SRCREV -> SRCDATE everytime)
23:01.45RPkoen: You've not tried PREFERRED_VERSION_foo = "...${SRCREV}" then?
23:01.50koennope
23:02.06RPkoen: It breaks but I have a fix for bitbake
23:02.08koenno angstrom release yet :)
23:02.14flo_lapwoglinde: yeah... the whole thing is quite complex...
23:02.32woglindeflo_lap I saw the hello world midlet on qte2
23:02.56koenehm
23:02.57koenbed
23:03.01koen'night all
23:03.03Crofton|homegn
23:03.03woglindeI hope I made the most thinks right
23:03.04woglindemee too
23:03.07woglindenite koen
23:03.08RP'night koen
23:03.12woglindenite all others
23:03.35RP'night woglinde
23:03.35woglindeflo_lap I am glad if you would test it under gpe
23:03.57Crofton|homearound this time, this channel sounds like the end of a Walton's episode
23:03.58woglindebut I am away at friday for the whole weekend
23:04.03woglindeno internet
23:04.34Crofton|homeRP, update from Poky enough for you?
23:05.12ArhuacoHi. I noticed there is not a package like libcgi-perl for OE. I'm trying to compile a new one.
23:05.21ArhuacoCreating a .bb.
23:05.30flo_lapwoglinde: i'll try if i manage to get a free minute
23:05.34flo_laphrm
23:06.54Arhuacommm. It seems it's part of the Perl core... never mind. Reading....
23:08.43Crofton|homeholy leaping lizard batman, three heads!
23:09.18RPCrofton|home: fine
23:09.27Crofton|homethanks
23:10.15Crofton|homeHave you guys heard of the iRack?
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23:20.35thomasghi. I have a small problem with e-wm (e17) via bitbake. it always fails because it can't find -lecore_dbus. edbus is installed. any ideas?
23:21.26ArhuacoMmm. No CGI module in the default installation.
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23:37.29RP'night all
23:37.41Crofton|homegn
23:41.37Crofton|homekergoth, ping
23:43.25kergothpong
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23:43.52Crofton|homehey
23:44.08Crofton|homemindfunk IM'ed by accident today
23:44.14Crofton|homehe says hi
23:44.26Crofton|homeand Stev Johnson? quit
23:44.35Crofton|homeI think I have the name right, that was hours ago
23:50.14Marexhi, any idea about this?
23:50.15Marexhttp://209.85.135.104/search?q=cache:KG5DCgsTqGsJ:rafb.net/p/6XUSMo91.html+makedepend.%40APP_MAN_SUFFIX%40&hl=cs&ct=clnk&cd=1
23:50.31MarexI have the same problem ... is it solved already or is it error on my side?
23:51.03Crofton|homeI have seen some chater, have you updated?
23:52.23MarexCrofton, this morning, yes
23:53.26Marexah ... its a bug I think
23:53.42Crofton|homeyeah, it may have been fixed today, not sure
23:54.35MarexCrofton|home, ok
23:54.43Marexthanks for your help :)
23:54.49Crofton|homegood luck
23:55.00Marexthanks
23:57.27Marexit's not fixed ;)

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