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03:46.11Crofton|homeI amd fine eith yuo fsrg =d ouink hrt hrrss
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05:59.44CIA-303khem 07org.oe.dev * rabaaa429... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Delete the fcntl2 patch. Its committed upstream.
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07:49.24rwhitbywho looks after the bluetooth recipes in OE?  I'd like to change the default device name from "BlueZ (%d)" to something that includes the host name (%h) so you can distinguish multiple OE devices on in the general vicinity ...
07:50.03CIA-303koen 07org.oe.dev * r5ee68e0b... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc): sane-srcrevs: fix webkit entry, it uses SRCREV_FORMAT, which the generator script doesn't pickup
07:50.32koenrwhitby: that would be me :)
07:50.40rwhitbyany objection?
07:50.46koenrwhitby: changing the name would be a very good idea
07:51.03rwhitbychange it to "%h (%d)" perhaps?
07:51.07polzrwhitby: /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf ?
07:51.11rwhitbyyep
07:51.18polzcan't you just edit that ?
07:51.30koenrwhitby: %h would be good
07:51.31rwhitbyI'm talking about the default value for new installatins
07:51.38polzoh, OK, sorry
07:51.43rwhitbykoen: what about multiple devices on one host?
07:52.02rwhitby(I presume that's why the %d is there)
07:52.07koenrwhitby: I also need to look at OE putting in a sane default service type (pda, workstation, phone, etc)
07:52.16koenrwhitby: I meant %h (%d) is fine :)
07:52.22rwhitbycool
07:52.55rwhitbykoen: I'm currently working on getting an FSG-3 to do the right thing for Neo's (pand) and Treo's (dund) as a server.
07:55.51rwhitbyI would suspect that anything that OE runs could be just about anything as far service types go, so we should default to the most comprehensive set of service type that is reasonable
07:56.00rwhitbys/runs/runs on/
07:59.43koenrwhitby: the service type (or device type) ends up being the thing GUIs select icons for
08:00.09koenso you neo will have a phone icon in windows and kde/gnome/etc if you set the service type up correctly
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08:46.13dcordesdid somebody experience problems building libgpg-error_1.4.bb lately?
08:46.53dcordesI'm trying to find out if it is my OE or the recipe being broken
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08:58.27dcordespH5: could you do me a favour and check if libgpg-error_1.4.bb is building for you?
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08:59.35pH5dcordes: I built it yesterday
09:02.46pH5NOTE: package libgpg-error-1.4: completed
09:05.00dcordesok I will try with the rebuild command
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09:17.20dcordespH5: doing -c rebuild on the package it built just fine. Why didn't it with the runqeue from angstrom-x11-image?
09:19.26pH5dcordes: how would I know, I can't even look at the logs
09:20.16dcordesI mean the runqueue from the angstrom image build command does the same thing like calling the build of the package manually, doesn't it?
09:21.56RPmorning all
09:22.03dcordesoops there are 400 tasks to go. Don't know what made me think it is finished soon
09:22.07dcordesmorning RP
09:22.20dcordessorry wrong channel.
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10:15.29polzif I want to use bitbake to compile an autotools package which is already unpacked in a directory ...
10:15.44polzwhat should I set the S and SRC_URI vars to ?
10:16.24polzand is there anything else I should set for inherit autotools to work ?
10:17.44pH5polz: do you want bitbake to "fetch" from that directory, or do you want to build in that directory?
10:18.03pH5if the latter, SRC_URI doesn't matter because you should skip the do_fetch and do_unpack steps
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10:19.48polzpH5: where can I read the instructions on how to do both ?
10:20.20polzpH5: and what's the usual method ? Fetching from a dir or just building everything where it's supposed to be unpacked ?
10:21.34pH5polz: the usual method is to fetch from a scm or tarball
10:21.54pH5have you read the bitbake and openembedded user manuals?
10:22.14polzI've read half of the openembedded user manual
10:22.53polzand I'm looking at www.openembeded.org/wiki/Bbfile
10:23.21polzbut the only SRC_URI mentioned there are CVS and tarball
10:27.43pH5polz: there is no directory tree fetcher, so if you want to build inside ${WORKDIR} and only fetch from the source directory, maybe the easiest thing to do would be to tar that dir and put the tarball in SRC_URI
10:30.23dcordespH5: somehow no package is building anymore. But when I -c rebuild -b *.bb them manually it works fine. Could you take a look at it? http://www.pastebin.ca/698407
10:30.59dcordesafter building it manually angstrom-x11-image runqueue is continuing with the nextpackage ending up in the same error
10:33.15polzpH5: I think I'll put it in SVN. Thank you for the help.
10:33.41pH5polz: good idea.
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10:34.45pH5dcordes: no idea. what happened before this behaviour started?
10:35.36pH5perhaps clear your cache or remove the do_install stamps for packages where this happens?
10:36.42dcordespH5:  I don't know exactly. I think it was from the beginning I tried to build the angstrom image
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10:37.24dcordesI built one openmoko image for akita and one for htctornado before
10:37.59pH5maybe RP has an idea. the strange thing is that some of the packages seem to package w/o problem, only the install/*-locale dir is missing.
10:39.16dcordespH5: I didn't see you were proposing to remove the do_install stamps for the package where it happens but it is happening vor every package
10:39.54pH5dcordes: even ones that you didn't build before at all?
10:39.58dcordesI rebuild them manually- that works fine- then continue with bitbake angstrom-x11-image and the before errornous package is left out and it continues with the next one
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10:49.43dcordespH5: I think the runqueu is only building packages I din't build before
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11:00.53dcordesRP: do you have any idea what might be the reason for the problem described?
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11:50.24XorA|gonehttp://ilounge.com/index.php/news/comments/ipod-classic-tests-reveal-audio-problems/
11:50.39XorA|gonewrong channel sorry
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11:59.28RPdcordes, pH5: I'll bet you went over commit where the install stamps had to be removed due to the pkgmaps changes
12:00.05RPThis issue was mentioned in the commit logs and the mailing list
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12:01.28pH5RP: thanks, I didn't notice that issue.
12:01.59dcordesRP: pH5 how do I get rid of it?
12:02.01Crofton|homeXorA|gone, I can see why that would annoy you
12:02.08pH5RP: while you're here, I was trying to have tasks remove other tasks' stamps if they remove their results (think package removing install stamps, rm_work removing all the others)
12:02.13pH5RP: see http://en.pastebin.ca/698446, http://en.pastebin.ca/698447
12:02.54pH5but that didn't work because stamp_is_current always returns false if any stamp in the dependency chain is missing
12:03.08pH5any idea where to go from there?
12:04.18pH5I'd like to stamp_is_current return true if the stamp exists and there is no newer stamp in the dependency chain. missing dependency stamps should be ignored.
12:04.28koenpH5: what about checkign for "newer timestamp" instead of "missing || newer timestamp"?
12:04.35koenheh
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12:05.17polzI'm trying to build an autotools package using bitbake...
12:05.48polzI've managed to get it unpacked, but now it's reporting a bunch of possibly undefined macro:    errors
12:06.14polzit can't seem to find AM_PATH_GLIB and AM_PATH_GTK
12:06.24polzwhat should I check ?
12:07.34koenDEPENDS = "gtk+" ?
12:08.16polztried that, to no avail.
12:08.25pH5koen, RP: I was wondering if changing its behaviour for build.py might have negative effects on other users (runqueue and cooker use it, too)
12:10.06polzthe error is preceded by "warning: macro `AM_PATH_GLIB` not found in library
12:10.32polzand it's also complaining about some underquoted definitions
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12:29.14pH5RP: http://projects.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2007-September/002935.html is this the mention on the mailing list?
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12:32.30koenpH5: is this spyrna? http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/43091acec6b18755afc111cb45857f5c.png
12:33.50pH5koen: i wish :)
12:34.08pH5no, there has been no stable locking yet on individual satellites.
12:34.46koenhmm
12:34.48koengtk 2.12.0
12:34.59koenangstrom 2008 material :)
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12:36.20Darth_Wadererm... still noone had problems with gpe-mini-browser?
12:47.26dcordesbuilding it?
12:48.44Darth_Waderyup
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12:51.06dcordesDarth_Wader: ERROR: function do_configure failed
12:51.19dcordesbut it could also be my rather broken setup
12:51.36Darth_Wadermine fails at do_configure too
12:51.47Darth_Waderhttp://pastebin.ca/698497
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13:03.09likewisecan i make a patch dependent on the SVN rev being at least X ?
13:20.29koenlikewise: ;minrev=133213421
13:20.45koenand related: ;maxrev=34343214342
13:20.53koenin SRC_URI
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13:27.22likewisekoen: thanks
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13:53.58chouimatmorning
13:55.04CIA-303koen 07org.oe.dev * red2dc1d9... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): h2200 defconfig: CONFIG_TOUCHSCREEN_ADC=y
13:55.09CIA-303koen 07org.oe.dev * r8071f5c5... 10/ (1 packages/gnome/gconf-dbus_svn.bb): gconf-dbus: DEPENDS += virtual/libintl
13:55.14CIA-303pH5 07org.oe.dev * rbb4bc38e... 10/ (1 packages/glibc/glibc-package.bbclass):
13:55.14CIA-3glibc-package.bbclass: fix do_prep_locale_tree
13:55.14CIA-3* there are both libgcc_s.so and libgcc_s.so.${someversion} in
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14:05.43christopheranyone out there today?  I am running angstrom x11 image.  it *should* have kdrive, right?  well, when I run the mouse around on a solid color background, the contents of the framebuffer change.
14:05.53christopherwhen I use a filesystem built by buildroot, it works fine
14:05.58christopherso, I know the kernel and driver are ok.
14:06.20christopherand the directory in build/tmp/work says xserver-kdrive.
14:06.31christopherjust wondering what other setup I may need to do with respect to the hardware
14:06.59christopheri was looking for the host.def file but couldn't find it
14:07.04koenyou need to add support to xserver-common and xserver-kdrive-common
14:11.19christopherkoen:  is there a way to check in the file system to see if it was included?
14:11.27christopherI was thinking it was, but maybe not
14:11.48koencheck for  /etc/X11/Xserver
14:11.51christopheris that in the depends of the matchine?
14:11.55christopherok, let me check that
14:12.34christopherdefinately don't have that in there.
14:13.51christopherkoen:  ok, so do common and kdrive-common go in the image file?
14:14.08koenonly one of them
14:14.16koenboth provide /etc/X11/Xserver
14:14.36christopherok, so I would just want xserver-kdrive-common
14:14.44christopherso, just put that in the RDEPENDS then
14:16.51koenif you're using angstrom* you'd want xserver-common
14:19.14christopherkoen:  hmmm.  ok.   isn't xserver vs kdrive much larger and slower or is that a bad misconception.  we only have a arm 9
14:19.49koenxserver-(kdrive-)common are just a few text files
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14:20.48christopherso I guess I am wondering why I would want xserver-common vs xserver-kdrive-common when it looks like the directory is xserver-kdrive-***
14:20.57christopherI am fine doing that, just isn't clear why
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14:21.13christopherXSERVER ?= "xserver-kdrive-fbdev"
14:21.21christopherthat's the line in angstrom-x11-image
14:21.25christopherso maybe that is why i am confused
14:21.28christopher:)
14:22.56christopherrequire xserver-kdrive-common.inc  <--that line is that the top of the kdrive bb file
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14:31.57CIA-303koen 07org.oe.dev * r3a47f20d... 10/ (4 files in 4 dirs): pointercal: add file for a780
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14:41.28christopherso, I see the files there koen, but still, when I move the mouse around on the screen, I see some of the colors changing under the mouse.
14:41.43christopherlike it is interfacing incorrectly with the hardware and writing back to the wrong location.
14:41.50christopheralmost like an endian problem, but only for the mouse!
14:42.04christopherand it doesn't happen with the tiny-x with an old buildroot.
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14:59.48CIA-303koen 07org.oe.dev * r4131d7b7... 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
14:59.48CIA-3kdrive-1.3-18bpp.patch: add, but not activate a patch to have 18bpp support in kdrive 1.3
14:59.48CIA-3* people with 18bpp hardware (motorola a1200, motorola rokre6, gumstix lcd) should test this and activate it if it works
15:02.32christopherkoen:  is there a place in kdrive where it will take some preset hw descriptions vs just requesting that info from the framebuffer?
15:03.38koenchristopher: yes, in the files I pointed you to an hour ago
15:04.12christopherkoen:  sorry, I thought those looked like scripts and if I just ran Xfbdev, they would not be involved
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15:20.58christopherkoen:  ok, I see the Xsession file where it spits out the resolution and bpp.  I specified that to match the hardware but no luck there.  Are there any other files that you know of that could make a difference of how the 16 bit words are read and written back to the frame buffer outside of the kernel?
15:21.36koennot that I know off
15:23.56christopherkoen:  drats.  somehow this is interacting different than the other kdrive from buildroot.  somehow, when the mouse moves, it must be doing a read modify write and it must get an address off by 1, or swap the bytes.  I've done captures and the bytes change from 00F800F8 to F8F800F8, like it read out the F8, but wrote it back to the wrong location
15:26.03christopherdoes anyone out there know where the mouse tracking is done?  perhaps I can look there to see if anything is using some hardware defines/vars ?
15:34.52CIA-303koen 07org.oe.dev * r6fefb143... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): linux-ezx: add 18bpp support to pxafb and enable it for a1200, rokre6 owners will have to make a small change to arch/arm/mach-pxa/ezx-e6.c
15:39.30pH5RP: do you know that bitbake trunk looks for classes in conf/distro/include/classes 12 times before searching machine/include/classes, build/classes and finally classes? http://en.pastebin.ca/698614
15:40.43pH5is there any chance that the ezx people will try to push pxafb upstream?
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16:15.36Crofton|homecan we look at mkaing linux.inc depend on uboot-utils and not the gta uboot?
16:17.24koenpH5: a very small change
16:17.46koenCrofton|home: we can, but I know the gta one is working an based on a recent uboot
16:18.08Crofton|homebut we only use it for mkiamge
16:18.26Crofton|homeI think the gta one falied to fetch last night and stopped my build
16:18.29Crofton|homeI am annoyed :)
16:19.15Crofton|homeand eventually, I would hope all teh gta stuff moves into uboot
16:19.27Crofton|homeand the gta specific uboots go away
16:19.52koenI don't think it can fail to fetch
16:20.02koensince it fetches tarballs from the angstrom servers
16:20.18Crofton|homehome, something croaked the build and I restarted it
16:20.30Crofton|homeThe console it failed on is at school
16:20.44Crofton|homeI check for actual failure in a bit
16:21.09Crofton|homestill, I think there are lots of reasons to use uboot-utils ...
16:21.35Crofton|homeargh
16:22.04koenuboot-utils was horrendously outdated and broken at the time I made linux.inc
16:22.06Crofton|homehttp://rafb.net/p/KoEXKf60.html
16:22.11Crofton|homeI fixed it
16:22.14koenso I still have a strong aversion against it
16:22.26Crofton|homeheh
16:22.32Crofton|homeI know it wasn't building etc
16:22.36Crofton|homehad weirs patches
16:22.42Crofton|hometake another look
16:23.06Crofton|homemtd-utils-native-1.0.0+git-r4 died on me also
16:23.36Crofton|homearg rap
16:23.45Crofton|homeforget that last pasteb
16:23.50Crofton|homewrong fargin machine
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16:25.49Crofton|homein spite of me being a complete idiot, I still think we should have linux.inc use uboot-utils for mkiamge ....
16:26.32hrwhhi
16:26.51Crofton|homeRDEPENDS_kernel-base = ""
16:26.55hrwCrofton|home: mkimage? as long as it generate working kernels I do not care where from it came
16:27.02Crofton|homeshould remove uImage from teh jffs2 image right?
16:27.30hrwCrofton|home: depends on method used to load kernel
16:27.56hrwyou can load kernel from raw flash partition, from jffs2 flash partition...
16:28.11Crofton|homeon gumstix, kernel load from flash partition
16:28.23Crofton|homebut it is also appearing in image
16:28.32Crofton|homeI thought we went through this two weeks ago
16:28.45hrwCrofton|home: raw separate flas partition? then RDEPENDS_kernel-base = "" should be ok
16:29.06Crofton|homeexcept it is not working for me, but I swear it worked once
16:30.49hrwI did not tested it
16:34.01Crofton|homeI am going to nuke tmp and check on the machien I thought I had it going on
16:34.06stelioskhi all
16:34.15hrwsteliosk: hi man
16:34.23hrwsteliosk: how weather in greece?
16:34.29stelioskhrw : hot
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16:34.51hrwgood
16:35.00Crofton|homewhen are you going?
16:35.05stelioskhrw : preparing to come down ?
16:35.08hrwtuesday early morning
16:35.15hrwsteliosk: yes
16:35.29stelioskhrw : Crete ?
16:35.36hrwsteliosk: Zakhyntos
16:35.51steliosknice
16:36.21hrwsteliosk: Ania is pregnant so we prefer to go somewhere where we concentrate on doing nothing instead of forcing itself during days
16:36.49stelioskthat's called "vecations" :)
16:37.24stelioskso you flight directly there or through Athens ?
16:37.37hrwsteliosk: directly - charter flight
16:37.38interfaithixp4xx hackers ? how to pull in ethernet driver bb
16:38.00hrwinterfaith: ixp4xx OE hackers use 2.6.2x wit opensource driver
16:38.45stelioskhrw : you are lucky. Tomorrow we have elections so all the commotion will be over by the time you arrive
16:38.52hrwsteliosk: the bad thing is that 'catherine palace' where we will stay lack webpage so no info does it have wifi
16:38.58hrwsteliosk: ;)
16:39.10interfaithhmm this is my platform however it seems no bb runs to load the ixp425_eth code
16:39.37hrwinterfaith: look in packages/ixp4xx?
16:39.40interfaiththere is an ixp425 bb directory
16:39.54hrwso?
16:40.10interfaithhowever its not obvious where the build process uses this
16:40.17stelioskhrw : My 2cnts of advice.... don't take ANY pc/pda/thing that resembles a computer with you, or your wife will make sure you will not forget it for the rest of your life
16:40.28hrwsteliosk: ;)
16:40.31steliosk...and probably in afterlife also
16:41.08hrwsteliosk: we were thinking about getting 770 - its crappy enough to not want to use it and good enough to browse pages to check what to visit
16:41.24interfaith<PROTECTED>
16:41.32stelioskhrw : i think you will find a few internet cafe on the islnad
16:41.39hrwsteliosk: last book about Greece islands which I saw had 5 pages about zakhyntos
16:41.52hrwinterfaith: virtual/kernel is KERNEL not external modules
16:41.54Crofton|homeah, my problem is RDEPENDS_kernel-base works for Angstrom minimal image
16:42.00Crofton|homebut not for my custom image
16:42.15interfaithbitbak ? modules ?
16:42.30hrwinterfaith: build ixp425 stuff by hand and test it on device by installing it additionally (by own image for start maybe)
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16:42.47interfaithok..thx
16:42.51hrwsteliosk: how much for 1h of inet cafe is in Greece now?
16:44.20stelioskin athens is like 1E per hour, not sure about the islands. maybe a bit more expensive because its a tourist area
16:44.39hrwaffordable ;)
16:47.30stelioskhrw : btw wheb you get some free time could you put ipkg back in minimal-image
16:47.51hrwsteliosk: do it by yourself - I will be offline until oedem probably
16:48.32stelioskhrw : ok
16:48.51CIA-303koen 07org.oe.dev * re8137fb0... 10/ (4 files in 4 dirs): linux-ezx: fix a1200 and rokre6 defconfig, should fix #3009
16:51.45hrwsee you in the evening today or after my honeymoon or on oedem ;)
16:52.13interfaithis there a 'make modules' cmd or must it be bitbake -b module.bb
16:52.44interfaithbaking a single bb file will not likely run
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16:55.21interfaithsome bitbake cmd to build ixp425_eth.ko ?
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17:13.02hrw|honeymooninterfaith: bitbake 'name-of-recipe-file-without_version.bb' -> bitbake ixp425-eth for you
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17:25.18CIA-303pH5 07org.oe.dev * rd8e2c140... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/preferred-xorg-versions-X11R7.3.inc):
17:25.18CIA-3preferred-xorg-versions-X11R7.3: fix versions once and for all
17:25.18CIA-3* the X11R7.x-a.b.c nomenclature is gone
17:58.30CIA-303koen 07org.oe.dev * ra3ee5d88... 10/ (4 files in 4 dirs): linux-ezx: more a1200 and rokre6 tweaks, also remove size check since boot_usb can handle 1MB images quite well nowadays and blob2 can flash like 1.3MB to mtd4
18:24.21pH5koen: do I have to do anything special to enable SRCREV_FORMAT support?
18:24.44pH5for me webkit-gtk fails trying to download revision "r25582-r25571" from svn
18:24.52pH5(bitbake trunk)
18:35.16interfaithany ixp4xx bitbaker ? ixp425_eth bitbaker.. here it errors out on missing intel files ?
18:35.49interfaithsuch as IxEthMii.h there must be another intel package needed to bake it
18:48.30Shoragankoen, your commit for webkit broke the fetching for me
18:49.14ShoraganNOTE: Update svn://svn.webkit.org/repository/webkit/trunk/;module=JavaScriptCore;proto=http
18:49.16Shoragansvn: Syntax error in revision argument '25582-r25571'
18:49.30Shoraganthis is oe rev 5ee68e0ba9fef03037462ab400a3ec03e1333719
18:49.44Shoraganoe-commits] org.oe.dev sane-srcrevs: fix webkit entry, it uses SRCREV_FORMAT, which the generator script doesn't pickup
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19:16.51koenpH5: hmmm
19:18.47koenpH5: ah, fetch -f -D finally errored out
19:19.30pH5oy, lart and praise caching :)
19:22.19koenok, 'fixed'
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19:29.57sakomangood morning
19:30.39sakomanI'm having a bit of a problem adding perl to my image
19:30.54sakomandistro is angstrom
19:30.57Crofton|homeurg
19:31.02Crofton|homewhat is problem?
19:31.15sakomanI add perl to my IMAGE_INSTALL
19:31.32sakomanI get the 10K perl binary in /usr/bin
19:31.48sakomanand a /usr/lib/perl subdirectory created
19:32.02sakomanand then just a broken link to libperl
19:32.57Crofton|homedid you look at what other perl related ipks are available
19:33.13sakomanYes they all seem to be there in deploy
19:33.14Crofton|homemaye broken RDEPENDS?
19:33.27Crofton|homeI need to run over to school and check some things
19:33.29Crofton|homebbiab
19:33.35koenI think broken packaging
19:33.43koenthe broken link shouldn't be there
19:33.43sakomanShould I try to explicitly include the lib-perl package?
19:33.55koenis libperl5_somethingsomething.ipk installed?
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19:34.34sakomanchecking
19:35.22koenipkg list_installed | grep libperl
19:36.01sakomanstill waiting for flash burn :-)
19:36.16sakomanIs there a way to tell from the deploy directory?
19:36.29sakomanOr rootfs directory?
19:38.12sakomanLooking in /usr/lib/ipkg in rootfs I see libperl and perl
19:39.09sakomanlibperl5.list includes:
19:39.15sakoman/usr/share/perl/5.8
19:39.15sakoman/usr/lib/perl/5.8
19:39.15sakoman/usr/lib/libperl.so.5
19:39.15sakoman/usr/lib/libperl.so.5.8.8
19:39.36sakomanSo by all rights it should be there in the image
19:39.44koenindeed
19:39.47sakomanYou may be right that it is a packaging bug
19:40.07koentry comparing your ipkg against http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/feed/armv5te/base/libperl5_5.8.8-r25_armv5te.ipk
19:40.21koen(no garantee that the angstrom one is correct, just curious about differences)
19:41.05sakomanwhat is the best tool to compare the two?
19:41.27koenar x foo.ipk ; tar zxf data.tar.gz
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19:49.56Crofton|workhmm, the RDEPENDS_kernel-base trick seems to work for angstrom-minimal-image, but not my custom image
19:50.06CIA-303koen 07org.oe.dev * rd683d126... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-ezx_2.6.21.bb): remove size check again
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19:51.02sakomanCrofton:  works for my custom image, leaves a dangling link, but uImage is gone
19:51.24CroftonI suspect I did not copy quite the right stuff from minimal image
19:51.32sakomankoen:  perhaps operator idiocy on the perl thing.  stay tuned :-)
19:51.44CroftonI think I will require angstrom-minimal-image.bb and use extra packages to add
19:52.40sakomanor just include task-boot as part of your IMAGE_INSTALL
19:52.52CroftonI think I do already ....
19:52.57Croftonneed to review this
19:53.06sakomanhmm . . . that worked for me
19:59.01Crofton|workthoroughly odd, I have the uIamge on my custom and not in minimal
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20:24.41Croftonsometimes I feel cursed
20:25.08Croftonhe smc91x autoload is not happening either
20:31.03sakomanCrofton:  Bummer!
20:31.17sakomanAre the kernel-modules in the image?
20:31.21Croftonyeah
20:31.26Croftonwell the network ones
20:31.43Croftonso it comes right up when you do the modprobe
20:32.27sakomanDid you change /etc/network/interfaces to add auto eth0
20:32.29sakoman?
20:32.40Croftonno
20:32.47sakomanWell, there you go!
20:33.08sakomanDo that and it should work
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20:35.33tonyghi, all. I have a question about packaging: I'm seeing "ERROR: QA Issue: non debug package contains .debug directory: ..." and I wonder what's the best way of automatically excluding the .debug dirs and their contents from a quite large directory hierarchy?
20:35.46tonygI've been working on getting the erlang package building with the new release, R11B-5
20:36.20Croftonhmm, I just had that problem
20:36.26Croftonwhere did I do it
20:36.32Croftonwild cards ....
20:36.39Croftoncxxtest?
20:37.06tonygCrofton, I'm hoping the solution is pretty straightforward :-)
20:37.50tonyghm, I don't have cxxtest in my packages directory
20:37.58Croftonyeah
20:39.04CroftonI was thinking cppunit, but I can find what I am looking for
20:39.11Croftonhmmm, the kernel tester
20:40.06tonygmaybe I need an explicit manifest X-(
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20:41.04tonygahhh, maybe it's something like: if I put the .debug dirs explicitly into some other package, the -libs package won't redundantly pick them up?
20:41.05tonygI'll try that
20:41.24Croftonyeah
20:41.29tonyg(I'll try putting them into the existing -dbg package, which explicitly mentions a few .debug dirs already and could do with a few more)
20:41.34Croftonthere should be examples in some bb files
20:41.37Croftonexactly
20:41.54Croftonyou can use wildcards
20:42.31tonygso far, I've found bitbake underdocumented and a bit scary, but basically pretty awesome to work with... /me makes a note to submit squeak-x.bb
20:42.50tonygas in: does amazing things; but is impenetrable and a bit voodooish :)
20:45.24Croftonnow it tries to bring the interface up, but the module is still not loaded
20:45.39tonygis there a way of telling bitbake to start again from a particular phase? (e.g. do_package)
20:45.46tonygwhile not forcing a total reconf and recompile?
20:46.11pH5tonyg: bitbake -f -cpackage foo ; bitbake foo
20:46.20tonygpH5, thanks
20:46.28pH5warning though, package needs install results but deletes them subsequently
20:46.40pH5so bitbake -f -cinstall foo ; bitbake foo might be a better idea
20:46.54tonygis there a list of valid args to -c anywhere? (I've looked but am either blind, or...)
20:47.01pH5-clisttasks, I think
20:47.02tonygpH5, right, install's probably more what I'm after
20:47.15tonygpH5, heh
20:47.25pH5'cause the tasks can change depending on what classes a recipe inherits
20:47.54tonygdoh, should have RTFM more carefully. it's even mentioned in "bitbake -h" output
20:55.35sakomanCrofton:  do you get any error messages?
20:55.36CIA-303crofton 07org.oe.dev * r973c3c04... 10/ (1 conf/machine/omap5912osk.conf): omap5912osk.conf : Prevent installation of uImage in /boot.
20:55.41CIA-303crofton 07org.oe.dev * r1d49e257... 10/ (1 conf/machine/gumstix-verdex.conf): gumstix-verdex.conf : Prevent installation of uImage in /boot.
20:55.44CIA-303crofton 07org.oe.dev * rec0908fb... 10/ (1 conf/machine/gumstix-connex.conf): gumstix-connex.conf : Prevent installation of uImage in /boot.
20:55.59Croftonwhen I turn auto on
20:56.17Croftonit tried to bring up the interface, but the module does not load
20:56.21CroftonI am moving some thigns around
20:56.34flo_laphi all
20:56.43Croftonfor gumstix, I am going to install all modules by defautl
20:56.51Croftonflo_lap, hello
20:57.12sakomanCrofton:  that make sense for the average gumstix user
20:57.24Croftonyeah
20:57.28flo_lapoh, what caused stefan -> stefan|hospital ?!
20:57.38Croftonespecially when you are getting started
20:57.48Croftonflo_lap, no idea
20:58.31sakomanCrofton:  not sure why you are having so much networking difficulty.  That part is rock solid for me
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20:59.39tonygthanks for your help, guys, looks like I have some candidate packages for erlang. whee! now to test them...
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21:02.18CroftonI bet there is something foul in my image
21:02.25Croftonlet me try minimal image ...
21:03.05stefan|hospitalflo_lap: Snowboarding in a fun park...
21:03.09stefan|hospitalflo_lap: ... broken right arm.
21:03.48flo_lapstefan|hospital: argh... nasty!
21:04.23sakomanCrofton:  minimal perl is working for me now
21:04.31Croftonexcellent
21:04.38sakomanSo I'm almost there
21:04.41Croftonthat is the one you needed right?
21:04.43flo_lapstefan|hospital: but a hospital with internet connection... that's a little bit of luck at least ;)
21:04.52sakomanwas using microperl
21:04.56Croftonah
21:05.06sakomanbut the minimal perl install might be small enough
21:05.24Croftonhow much flash are you working with?
21:05.31sakomanneed to figure out why my OE image is so much fatter than buildroot though
21:05.39sakomanI see a few obvious things
21:05.49Croftonsuch as?
21:06.30sakomanlike libstdc++
21:06.44Crofton|workah
21:06.51sakomanlibiconv
21:06.59sakomannot sure what is pulling them in!
21:07.38sakomanavahi seems like it might be bigger than mdns
21:07.39stefan|hospitalflo_lap: yeah
21:07.42stefan|hospitalflo_lap: Not really. That's what mobile internet flats are for. :)
21:07.44stefan|hospitalflo_lap: But GPRS sucks
21:07.46sakomanalso it segfaults :-)
21:08.25sakomanI work on size after I get everything functional
21:08.36Croftonyeah
21:09.01sakomanHopefully I can just trim back the packages that don't really need to be there
21:09.30Croftonthat should help with sucking extra libs also ...
21:09.46flo_lapstefan|hospital: oh okay... yes, the latency must be a pain
21:10.13sakomanYup, hopefully it will be easy to get rid of them
21:10.16Croftonmy wife messed up her ACL on skis in a terrain park a few years ago ....
21:11.27sakomanCrofton:  my flash is 16MB, but I'm trying to keep enough room free for a year's worth of historical data
21:11.55Croftonah, I was wondering what was driving you
21:11.56stefan|hospitalflo_lap: yeah,besides that it's pretty stable. But I'm waiting for my UMTS card to arrive anyway.
21:12.16sakomanIt's those nice history plots!
21:12.38sakomanAnd 1 year is a nice marketing claim
21:13.09sakomanAs well as being interesting as a user
21:13.42flo_lapstefan|hospital: i'm not sure if that would be much better...
21:13.53Croftonmarketing is the root of all evil :)
21:15.13tonyghm, spoke too soon wrt erlang packages... i wonder if there's some way of telling bitbake to automatically ignore .debug/ directories on a per-package basis, without having to construct a full manifest listing only those files I *do* want to include
21:15.17stefan|hospitalflo_lap: My hope would be that the 3G cell is empty. But in the end the card was ordered before the accident happened.
21:15.49sakomanCrofton:  Yeah, but I'm the marketing person too.  At least the meetings are short :-)
21:17.05Croftonone year looks a lot better than 11 months in the borchure
21:18.49flo_lapstefan|hospital: mobile internet access is nice anyway, even if the performance sucks... it gives a nice feeling of freedom :)
21:19.42sakomanCrofton:  and the annual plots would look silly with only 11 months filled in!
21:19.56stefan|hospitalflo_lap: I fully understand you :D
21:20.14flo_lapstefan|hospital: i can imagine why ;)
21:21.32flo_lapstefan|hospital: even the "poor man's solution" (http/wap only flat) i use is extremely useful...  
21:21.49tonyg(insane.bbclass?? hmm)
21:27.00stefan|hospitalflo_lap: I have one SIM for the UMTS card and one with WAP flatrate for the mobile
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21:28.56flo_lapstefan|hospital: that reminds me that i have a sim for my laptop too :)
21:30.01Croftonhmmm, 4M of modules it appears ....
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22:04.20sakomanCrofton:  yikes 4M!  Might want to scale back a bit on what gets built :-)
22:04.35Croftonyeah
22:04.42Croftonbut we can tune that in the kconfig
22:05.03koenbetter not
22:05.06CroftonI'll worry about that when things get a little stable
22:05.12sakomanYeah, I think Craig turned just about everything on figuring he could just install what he wanted
22:05.13Croftonkoen, ?
22:05.25koenonly include the modules you want runtime instead of doing "RDEPENDS = kernel-modules"
22:05.30CroftonI think the config could still use a review :)
22:05.55sakomankoen:  that's the approach I am using on my builds
22:06.00koenotherwise you have reconfigure and recompile the kernel every time you need a module install of installing it from the feeds
22:06.04Croftonkoen, the headache is, for the general case, we have now way of knowing what modules users want
22:06.27koenso we include a few and leave the to the user
22:06.48sakomanCraig includes all the modules required to support the gumstix hw line
22:06.50Croftonthat may be the way to go given the quantity :)
22:07.02koensakoman: as he should :)
22:07.03sakomanIf you want anything else you are on your own
22:07.10sakomanOf course!
22:07.11Croftongrrr, this stinking smc91x won't autoload for me
22:07.32koenanyway...
22:07.36koenit's midnight
22:07.38koen'night all
22:07.40Croftongn
22:07.46sakomangn
22:08.10Croftonhow does the autloading work?
22:08.43sakomanI'm not an expert at that I'm afraid
22:10.52Croftonsakoman, do you have easy access to a running gumtix?
22:10.58sakomansure
22:11.04Croftoncan you see if you have a file /etc/modules?
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22:11.15sakomanyes
22:11.20Croftonwhat is in it?
22:11.50sakoman### This file is automatically generated by update-modules"
22:11.51sakoman#
22:11.51sakoman# Please do not edit this file directly. If you want to change or add
22:11.51sakoman# anything please take a look at the files in /etc/modutils and read
22:11.51sakoman# the manpage for update-modules.
22:11.51sakoman#
22:11.53sakoman### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/pxamci
22:11.57sakomanpxamci
22:11.59sakoman### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/pxamci
22:12.01sakoman### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/smc91x
22:12.03sakomansmc91x
22:12.05sakoman### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/smc91x
22:12.06Croftonpastebin ....
22:12.19Croftonok
22:12.23sakomanSorry!
22:12.23CroftonI lack this file :)
22:13.17sakomanDo you have modules.dep in /lib/modules/2.6.21?
22:13.18Croftonrunning update-modules on the gumstix fixed it
22:13.26CroftonI think so
22:13.30sakomanmake sure
22:13.30tonygthis .debug thing is breaking me, slowly but surely
22:13.40Croftontonyg, how so?
22:14.14CroftonDoes anyone know the name of the package that tests the kernel interfaces?
22:14.29Croftonok
22:14.46Croftonupdate-modules is not happening when I build the image
22:15.03CroftonI wonder if this is another minimal versus console difference?
22:16.25sakomanDon't know -- that problem went away for me.  Perhaps when I started using my own image ??
22:16.54Croftonyeah, I need to look at some thing
22:17.06tonygCrofton, if you take a look at the very bottom of erlang_R11B.1.bb, you'll see definitions of FILES_${PN}... I cannot find the magic incantation required to make insane.bbclass stop complaining about some of the .debug directories that end up in the "erlang-libs" package. The packages defined are "erlang", "erlang-libs", "erlang-dbg", and the doc and locales ones. "erlang-libs" looks to be the only custom one, so I'm wondering if there's some hidden magic aroun
22:17.06tonygd.
22:18.14Croftoncan you pastebin the messages?
22:18.20tonygsure, will do.
22:19.02tonyg(... although I've already upgraded to R11B.5, so the fine detail will be slightly different - but R11B.1 fails for the same reasons)
22:19.06tonygoh wait
22:19.11Croftonthats fine
22:19.16tonygno it doesn't, it fails for other HIPE-related reasons. damn
22:19.25Croftonhhe
22:19.27tonyganyway, I'll pastebin the .5 output
22:24.06Croftonsakoman, I think my problem revolves around only using task-boot and not task-base
22:24.34sakomanI think you are correct
22:24.51Croftontask-base has a lot of hairy looking bits :)
22:25.17sakomanThat's why I created my own task-base-headless
22:25.43sakomanAlso to reduce build time & image size :-)
22:25.56Croftonheh
22:26.12CroftonI think so guys are looking at breaking some of the dependency chains
22:26.38sakomanJust too big a jump from task-boot to task-base
22:26.50Croftonyeah, I kind of sense that
22:27.20sakomankoen's position is that it is "just" a build time cost
22:27.24sakomannot install
22:27.28Croftonyeah
22:27.47sakomanbut *damn* that build time is a pain in the ass and a real productivity killer
22:27.56CroftonI understand that, but I also have seen traffic where they are making an effort to cut some of the worse build tiem offendors :)
22:28.07sakomanExcellent!
22:28.31Croftonare you on .dev list?
22:28.40sakomanYes
22:28.56sakomanDon't get me wrong, I actually think task-base is a really good idea
22:28.56Croftonso you saw Marcin's comments on task-base being too big
22:29.03sakomanYes
22:29.58tonyghttp://rafb.net/p/jh1EP292.html
22:30.06CroftonWe really need to start exercising mtn's branches and see if we can create a workflow where we have a stable release for people making product
22:30.21Croftonand a dev branch where we can address the systemix issues
22:30.26sakomanDefinitely!
22:30.58sakomanlack of a stable branch is one of the biggest issues (for me anyway)
22:31.31sakomanWell, got to run.  My wife and I are heading out to the Redding beer & wine festival
22:31.39Croftonum
22:31.43Croftonthat sounds good
22:31.57sakomanYeah, beautiful evening for it too
22:32.13sakomanGood luck with your modules issue
22:32.18Croftonthanks
22:32.22CroftonI think I see the answer
22:32.32sakomanin task-base?
22:32.43Croftonyeah
22:32.49Croftonjust include task-base :)
22:33.15sakomanSo there you go :-)
22:33.18Croftonyeah
22:33.29sakomanGo take a nap while it builds :-)
22:33.41Croftonwork on paper
22:33.46sakomanLater!
22:34.29Croftontonyg, something like
22:35.34CroftonFILES..-dbg += " ${libdir}/erlang/lib/*/*/.debug ${libdir}/erlang/lib/*/*/*/.debug "
22:35.36Croftonmay help
22:41.01tonygCrofton, already tried something like that; I'll try exactly that, and report back
22:41.02tonygthanks
22:41.56Croftonbasically, when faced with lots of .debug dirs in many directories, use */.debug */*/.debug .....
22:42.12CroftonThere was one package I had to fix up like that
22:42.30tonygthe thing that's puzzling me is that one of the reported problems is in a dir that should already have been caught by the glob in the FILES-dbg spec
22:46.55tonygdamn. that didn't make any difference :-(
22:47.02Croftonbother
22:47.20tonygfor now, I don't even *care* about the .debug directories... (where do they come from anyway??) could I add something to the .bb to blow them away?
22:47.23CroftonI wonder of the {libdir} is not quite the right one
22:47.31tonygoo, maybe that's it
22:59.39Croftontonyg, look up how libdir is defined
23:16.46interfaithany ixp4xx bitbaker ?
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23:42.09tonygOMG. It was an order-dependent problem, I think. Putting the -dbg package *first* in PACKAGES means it takes ownership of all the .debug dirs ... somehow
23:42.19tonygwow
23:42.52tonygthe packages are built, and even look sane
23:43.00tonyg*sigh*
23:43.05tonygwell, cool. now to test them
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