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06:56.36niv_one_threehi, please help me solve this: http://rafb.net/p/OuBEte73.html
06:57.08niv_one_threeI run bitbake virtual/kernel -cconfigure
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07:02.51niv_one_threeok, I will wait for the OE ppl to wake up then
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07:04.08nudcbrake: you don't need to do ramdisk off if you didn't do save when you booted on the ramdisk
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07:16.54Esbenanyone that knows if the maemo distro in oe is maintained and kept up-to-date compared with Nokia's maemo releases?
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07:50.50gilligan_good morning
07:57.34koengood morning all
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08:06.02nuddid someone think about providing pre-compiled packages for angstrom to avoid building them again ?
08:07.20koennud: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/
08:07.54mickeylstefan_schmidt: no conference cold (yet)
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08:09.18hrwmorning
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08:19.07XorAmorning
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08:26.08niv_one_threehrw: hi, is the oe confrence over?
08:26.34XorAniv_one_three: dont be silly, we are all at the conference and still chatting to each other on IRC :-D
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08:29.11niv_one_threeI run bitbake virtual/kernel -cconfigure and got this: http://rafb.net/p/OuBEte73.html
08:29.19niv_one_threehi zecke!
08:29.28niv_one_threeany idea why it failed?
08:29.59zeckeljp: ping
08:31.04flo_lapgood morning
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08:34.48niv_one_threeXorA: hi there
08:44.09nudkoen: can you use it for the build ?
08:44.54nudif so I would be really pleased to avoid 24h building everytime
08:46.00stefan_schmidtmickeyl: Good to hear. Perhaps you can come around it this time. (Must be that you do not share a room with zecke anymore *hide*)
08:46.20mickeylhehe
08:46.21mickeylright
08:46.27mickeylbut he's quite healthy atm.
08:47.08stefan_schmidtmickeyl: Good
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08:47.12stefan_schmidt~hail zecke
08:47.12ibotACTION bows down to zecke and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!"
08:47.16Henrykmorning
08:47.20hrwXorA: do you have Zaurus charger?
08:47.26XorAhrw: yes
08:47.26ulitumorning
08:47.31ulitufinally made it :-)
08:47.40stefan_schmidtSo, OEDEM already in progress again?
08:48.21XorAnot yet
08:48.35XorAwe are waiting for mickeyl to take the chair again
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08:48.58Henryksomeone is currently playing strange music
08:49.05ulitucool music
08:49.18mickeylmmh
08:49.23zeckeulitu: lol
08:49.23Henrykwouldn't quite put it that way
08:49.35zecke20 sconds left
08:49.39ulituat least we have an important topic
08:49.42Croftontick tick
08:49.45mickeyllets start @ 11.15
08:49.48Croftonok
08:49.52zeckeokay
08:49.53mickeylwant to get something finished here
08:50.09stefan_schmidt:)
08:51.11Henrykok, war it is
08:52.16Croftonhttp://musiclub.web.cern.ch/MusiClub/bands/cernettes/
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08:53.00hrwand I will loose in that war - only one speaker in my laptop
08:53.25Croftoni2cdetect does not seem to find anything, but it scrolled off the top ....
08:54.07XorAHELP ME IM IN HELL
08:54.28hrwXorA: I am closer to that crap called german music..
08:54.46ade|deskXorA: funny I can't see you nearby
08:55.00Croftonhe is next to me
08:55.53alphaonethree dead trolls in a baggie
08:56.04stefan_schmidtheh
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08:58.08niv_one_threemickeyl: hi can you post a bit on your blog, about what goes down in the conference?
08:58.25hrwniv_one_three: read planet.linuxtogo.org
08:58.30mickeylniv_one_three: read planet.linuxtogo.org, there are quite some posts already
08:58.31niv_one_threemay anyone help my fial in using bitbake?
08:58.32zeckeXorA: what is wrong with hell?
08:59.14niv_one_threeI run bitbake virtual/kernel -cconfigure and got this: http://rafb.net/p/OuBEte73.html
08:59.14mickeylXorA: can't be worse than what we already heared ;)
08:59.14mickeylmost likely better
08:59.38zeckeXorA: that is music?
08:59.51Croftonoh no I think he is going to sing
09:00.01XorAzecke: its part of a comedy sketch
09:00.46Henrykniv_one_three: what goes on? we recently listened to http://www.zgeek.com/forum/showpost.php?s=d204fe887a9a87ebfd6658882d9bafc8&p=1208658&postcount=6665
09:01.43nudso, is it possible to use precompiled packages for OE compilation ?
09:01.45niv_one_threeHenryk, thanks
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09:07.13flo_lapCrofton: While planet.linuxtogo.org is on topic: You should try Currywurst in Berlin... it was invented here :)
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09:08.19Henryk(actually the best currywurst you can get in rostock)
09:09.09flo_laphehe
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09:18.23XorAmickeyl: your late
09:18.31Croftontwo minutes late
09:18.32mickeylright
09:18.42koen3 minutes
09:23.33hrwdo_TASK[depends] SUXX
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09:24.46niv_one_threeok, I see you are all busy in the conrenrence, I will try asking about the bitbake issue later
09:25.15niv_one_threethis was the first time I used bitbake, and hoped it would all work well
09:25.45niv_one_threethis is as I use a 2Gb pc with plentty of hard disk space
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09:26.12Henrykcool, three people typing minutes simultaneously
09:26.55koenmickeyl: http://www.openembedded.org/user-manual&dpage=chapter_comparing
09:28.55XorApeople type faster than me
09:28.57zeckeerror: pack-objects died with strange error
09:29.03zeckeWTF....
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09:29.16rschusterhi all
09:29.31rschusterI am still at home. preparing things for the dinner etc
09:29.42rschusterbut will soon leave for OEDEM
09:30.06rschusterhere is a map that shows you how to get to the dinner:
09:30.06rschusterhttp://www.inf.fu-berlin.de/~rschuste/oedem-dinner.jpeg
09:30.32zeckerschuster: hey
09:30.40rschusterI will have 4 printouts with me
09:30.43flo_laphi rschuster
09:30.44rschusterhi ze
09:30.46zecke404
09:30.48rschusterhi zecke
09:31.10rschusterhttp://page.mi.fu-berlin.de/rschuste/oedem-dinner.jpeg ?
09:31.23zecke... ;)
09:31.48rschusterzecke: does it work?
09:32.17lisppaste7zecke pasted "git... " at http://paste.lisp.org/display/48893
09:32.30zeckerschuster: ;) yeah.... :}
09:33.20rschusterzecke: powered by GIMP, Debian and OpenStreetmap :)
09:35.39Henrykrschuster: openstreetmap will even have Novalisstraße soon. (it's already in the osmarender map, but not yet in the mapnik map)
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09:36.51rschusterHenryk: hey thanks. I already thought about how to report this bug :)
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09:42.34koenhttp://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/cms/using-openembedded-toolchains-in-scratchbox
09:48.49Croftonhttp://www.scatechnica.com/news.html
09:50.16noglitchkoen:  I am just reading the OEDEM minutes, about toolchains, we choose to use http://www.codesourcery.com for all components that are not rootfs related.
09:50.47koenah, the harry potter toolchains ;)
09:50.59Croftongrrr, not the press release I was looking for
09:51.18XorAstunned silence at OEDEM
09:53.23Croftonhttp://pastebin.ca/730540
09:53.34Croftonthis is a bit of a silly release
09:58.23noglitchkoen: but we do not use a libc to compile bootloaders and kernel... anyway, thumb-2, EABI, not too bad... (harry potter, why ?)
10:01.30hrwkoen: 4th search phrase for OE website is 'tslib'
10:04.08zeckesomeone wants to fsck my git-tree?
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10:06.49woglindehe
10:06.55flo_laphi woglinde, hi Philippe
10:07.05flo_lapeh
10:07.09flo_laphi pvanhoof
10:07.10woglindeflo whats with lunch today?
10:07.11Philippehey flo_lap
10:07.18woglindeI will now travel to oedem
10:07.38woglindebut want to manage that your are there and not on lunch
10:07.50woglindeor I will join lunch
10:08.12flo_lapwoglinde: how long does it take you?
10:08.16pvanhoofhwey
10:08.38woglindeflo nearly one hour to 40 minutes
10:08.52vivijimmickeyl: It's done... how must I send you? I mean, which email?
10:09.00woglindeah zecke is answering now
10:11.40woglindebye till later
10:11.43mickeylvivijim: just send it to zecke :)
10:11.44woglindeat oedem
10:12.17zecke<PROTECTED>
10:12.42hrwkoen: give me your google account name and you will get access to OE website stats
10:13.40vivijimzecke: it is in your inbox...
10:14.03zeckevivijim: thanks
10:14.43vivijimzecke: note that I'm not really sure about the last (and separeted) line... ;)
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10:22.50ynezzzecke: fscking...
10:23.26XorAShoragan: PRSCVL in ADCCON seems to be how to slow the ADC conversion speed. you could try increasing it to see if it makes stability better
10:23.54ShoraganXorA, thanks
10:25.59XorAShoragan: is you GTA booted so you can check what PCLK is?
10:26.19Shoraganhow can i check it at runtime?
10:26.29XorAShoragan: its in boot messages
10:26.36XorAShoragan: top of dmesg
10:27.04XorAI think its approx 50Mhz
10:29.44Shoragandoes any know how to use printascii with a current kernel?
10:32.18koenmickeyl: http://www.openembedded.org/~koen/usermanual.pdf
10:40.39ynezzzecke: it gets stuck in 'Getting pack 1089a1729f299fe2aa079c447f6cd86640e6e19a'
10:48.59XorAtime to kill Neo sound
10:50.59Henrykthat should actually be pretty easy. i think two small pieces of paper between the board and the speakers should suffice
11:06.00XorAit seems too much Club Mate was consumed last year and no-one can remeber it
11:06.34koenlast year afri-cola was all the rage
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11:26.42gilligan_just in case anyone finds this useful... wrote a little python proggy to deal with downloading/flashing kernel&rootfs/booting on the compulab boards : http://www.xuanfengjiao.de:~/serupload.py
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11:34.04ynezzzecke: finished, but with error - cat: /home/pjoter/data/oe-git/.git/refs/remotes/origin/master: No such file or directory
11:34.07ynezzfatal: : not a valid SHA1
11:34.10ynezzfatal: Not a valid object name HEAD
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11:42.00mickeyl~spell statues
11:42.34koen~spell statutes
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11:43.09koenhey mallum
11:44.06mallumhey koen
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11:46.33XorAkoen gets desperate for money
11:46.59koenfor a passport
11:47.54zeckeschumacher@kde.org
11:48.05hrwand for new wallet
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11:55.31koenCrofton: http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/ballmer_peak.png
11:57.27gilligan_haha
11:57.30gilligan_koen, nice one
11:59.00rob_wwhy does my dropbear installation not let me in with authorized keys  ??
11:59.21gilligan_http://pizdaus.com/pics/fW8RyEXiW3aZ.jpg ;]]
11:59.31Henrykthere was at least some dropbear which needed to have the authorized key in /etc. otherwise: check rights
12:00.41rob_wHenryk, i did put them also at /etc/dropbear and home/root/.ssh/
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12:01.32XorAif there is an earthquake in berlin its my stomach
12:01.58HenrykDropbear sshd v0.49 (on openmoko) works for me with /home/root/.ssh/authorized_keys, with chmod -R go-rwx /home/root/.ssh
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12:04.02mickeylXorA: you just had a solid breakfast didn't you?
12:04.17mickeylXorA: we might have lunch right after the infrastructure section
12:04.19XorAmickeyl: Ive already processed that
12:04.27koen*rumble*
12:04.28XorAmickeyl: 3 meals a day or I complain
12:04.32Croftondo you have a tapeworm?
12:04.33XorA4 is better
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12:06.06hrwgerwinin: morning
12:06.19zeckegerwinin: hey
12:06.34zeckegerwinin: we will get food, I will be in Eindhoven on the Friday
12:06.46hrwfooooodddd
12:09.39gerwininhrw: morning
12:09.46gerwininzecke: cool !
12:14.14Kerowhat's the diff between bitbake's DEPENDS and RDEPENDS ?
12:14.34nudDEPENDS is for build, RDEPENDS is for run
12:14.41nud(if I understood correctly ;-))
12:16.06Keromakes sense.
12:21.44rob_wHenryk, it works to use a rsa key from ssh host to log into drobear units .. but logging from dropbear to dropbear doesnt work for me ??
12:23.01Kero(Eindhoven btw? I live there :)
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12:40.49rob_whmm it just doenst work ot get dropbear to dropbear key logins .. what the heck
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12:42.59gilligan_cbrake, there?
12:46.01Kerorob_w: for my openmoko, no port 22 at all :(
12:50.39cbrakegilligan_: good morning!
12:50.57gilligan_cbrake ']
12:52.08gilligan_cbrake, i see the compulab stuff has been reorganized a bit
12:53.38gilligan_cbrake, hm..say wouldn't it be convenient to have a link to the latest kernel build in the deploy dir ? like there are for the rootfs images
12:55.31Henrykrob_w: hmm, I never tried to do that
12:55.34hrwrob_w: dropbear -> any needs giving key are argument iirc
12:56.23cbrakegilligan_: yes, that would be useful for scripts
12:56.40cbrakegilligan_: yes, we have done some massive cleanup
12:56.59cbrakegilligan_: can you test the new NAND eraseblock size setting in cm-x270.conf?
12:58.07cbrakegilligan_: I also wrote up the install procedure -- let me know if anything is incorrect: http://bec-systems.com/web/content/view/82/9/
12:58.08gilligan_cbrake, yep..in a moment
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13:00.09cbrakenud: thanks for the suggestion about "ramdisk off".  I put that in the howto just to be explicit -- more to make a point.
13:01.41hrwzImage-cm-x270.bin zImage-cm-x270.cmx270 are ok for symlinks?\
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13:09.20cbrakehrw: sounds good to me
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13:13.11zeckegerwinin: hi
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13:18.22hrwcbrake: testing now
13:20.05cdbot2* * OE Bug 3134 has been created by autobuild(AT)openembedded.org
13:20.07cdbot2* * apmd-3.2.2-r8-do_compile
13:20.09cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3134
13:21.11alphaonebye guys have a nice oedem (and a nice dinner)
13:21.49Croftonbye
13:22.11koensee you
13:29.51zeckekoen: cbrake offered an autobuilder as well
13:31.33XorAflo_lap: I missed your numbers for the minutes
13:31.55koen500-70-GByte/mounth
13:31.57alphaonegood news for you. The deutsche Bahn will not strike on Oct 10th
13:31.58koenmonth
13:32.04koenalphaone: yay!
13:32.25oxodo you have your papers back yet?
13:32.30koennope
13:32.46oxobummer
13:32.51koenindeed
13:33.58Shoraganxora, can i reflash the rootfs?
13:34.46XorAShoragan: yes
13:35.58gilligan_cbrake, tried that little python proggy I wrote?
13:36.15cbrakegilligan_: not yet :-)
13:36.48nudgilligan_: what python proggy ?
13:37.12cbrakegilligan_: for some reason I can't download it -- just comes up with a blank page
13:38.01gilligan_huh.. oh
13:38.05gilligan_hang on ;]
13:40.12gilligan_that is.. interesting.. to say the least
13:40.13gilligan_;]
13:41.17gilligan_www.xuanfengjiao.de/test.txt
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13:41.29gilligan_grab that one
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13:41.54gilligan_nud, just a small script that automates downloading&flashing kernels&rootfs on the compulab boards
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13:42.08nudgilligan_: and, obviously, this interests me
13:42.11nud;-)
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13:44.32hrwgilligan_: interesting
13:44.42steliosk_|oedemkoen: could you email me the flowchart for the ui
13:44.58nudgilligan_: no NAND support yet ?
13:45.34koensteliosk_|oedem: http://www.openembedded.org/~koen/OE-gui-flow.pdf
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13:45.57gilligan_nud, armmon doesn't even allow for that or does it?
13:46.15nudit does
13:46.34gilligan_oops :)
13:46.35nudbut usually we do it through booting on the ramdisk and using mtdtools from there
13:46.44gilligan_well yes
13:46.57nudneither cbrake nor me tested it through ARMon
13:47.28gilligan_and as i learned most of the compulab stuff through cbrake  : neither do i
13:47.29gilligan_;]
13:47.58nudbut while you are at it ... ;-)
13:48.07gilligan_hehe,sure i can look at that
13:48.13nudthe relevant armmon command is nand write iirc
13:49.08cbrakenud: have you ever tried writing jffs2 images to nand with the cm-x270 bootloader?
13:49.09gilligan_also feel free to point out any do-not's in my python code.. i'm a python noob..  ;]
13:49.16nudcbrake: no
13:49.35nuddo_stage() {
13:49.35nud<PROTECTED>
13:49.35nud}
13:49.39nudKeyError: 'do_stage'
13:49.40nudwtf ?
13:49.46cbrakenud: probably should one of these days -- it may just work.  I got scared off by the "format stuff" ...
13:50.15nudflash_eraseall /dev/mtd3 works fine even without the -j switch btw
13:50.26nudcbrake: I told gilligan_ to do so ;-)
13:50.55cbrakenud: does -j write clear markers?
13:51.15nudI don't know
13:51.15cbrakenud: if so, that would speed up the first mount if jffs2 did not have to scan every block to determine what is erased.
13:51.31nudI said "it works", not "it works better" ;-)
13:51.43cbrakenud: that is my best guess, but I don't know for sure :-)
13:52.02nudI would prefer a slower boot and updating through a script than booting quicker but having to do everything manually ;-)
13:52.56rob_whrw, you where right .. i do need to use -i identiy_file !! thanks for that hint that made the difference
13:53.02gilligan_cbrake/nud: can I somehow invoke only the do_compulab_image() event without having to rebuild the kernel image via -crebuild when i want to test something ?
13:53.48nuddepends what you want to test
13:53.56nudbut I've never updated the kernel
13:54.00nudnor do I rebuild it
13:54.38cbrakegilligan_: bitbake virtual/kernel -c listtasks (figure out which one you want)
13:54.54cbrakegilligan_: and then bitbake virtual/kernel -c <task that maps to do_compulab_image>
13:55.04gilligan_cbrake, ah..wonderful..thanks
13:55.55nudthe -f flag might be worth to set
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13:56.05cbrakegilligan_: nud Compulab has just confirmed they are still using SLC NAND flash, and don't have any plans yet to switch to MLC.
13:56.10chouimatmorning
13:56.13cbrakenud: good point
13:56.24nudmmh MLC SLC ?
13:56.37koenmultilevel, single level
13:56.45nudand what does it affect ?
13:56.49koenmlc = 10k write cycles, slc = 100k write cycles
13:57.11koenmlc stores more than one bit per cell
13:57.17zeckekoen: hmm, my tinderclient doesn't work anymore :}
13:57.37koenzecke: and seppuku doesn't attach logs anymore
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13:59.52nudeck, my package doesn't populate staging anymore
14:00.21nuddo_stage() {
14:00.22nud<PROTECTED>
14:00.22nud}
14:00.29Henrykhmm, interesting. Indeed, "bitbake -k kphonepi sofia-sip linphone" does an endless loop in (openmoko distribution)
14:00.37nud^-- this is ok for populating with autotools isn't it ?
14:02.57zeckegit-clone http://openembedded.org/~zecke/git/oe/openembedded-git/.git ah it completed!
14:03.10hrwHenryk: kdepimpi, kphonepi, pwmpi are non-maintained
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14:04.36Henrykhrw: yeah, I just wanted to build all sip clients and try them again. (minisip doesn't even start to build :)
14:04.50Henrykstill, bitbake shouldn't try to execute the same task over and over
14:08.57ulituzecke: how big is the git pack?
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14:09.24zeckeulitu: no idea :)
14:11.10hrwHenryk: -k == --i-do-not-care
14:11.12hrw;)
14:11.47hrwmy Python experience grows ;D
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14:12.39Henrykhrw: -k == "compile all top level targets that go through, ignore the others" (or at least that's what the documentation says).  E.g. that what I wanted to express: give me all the sip clients whose compile goes through, I won't care about the others
14:14.25zeckehttp://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1880
14:15.44hrwcbrake: I am pushing something for you
14:16.14hrwlrwxrwxrwx 1 hrw hrw      43 Oct  9 16:10 tmp/deploy/glibc/images/cm-x270/zImage-cm-x270.bin -> zImage-2.6.22-r3-cm-x270-20071009140944.bin
14:16.17hrwlrwxrwxrwx 1 hrw hrw      46 Oct  9 16:10 tmp/deploy/glibc/images/cm-x270/zImage-cm-x270.cmx270 -> zImage-2.6.22-r3-cm-x270-20071009140944.cmx270
14:17.44cbrakehrw: thanks!
14:18.03gilligan_hrw, i am a bit slow.. just did the same
14:18.04gilligan_;]
14:18.41gilligan_hrw, did you also just added the code to the do_compulab_image() task ?
14:18.48gilligan_s/added/add
14:18.50hrwgilligan_: yes
14:18.53hrwbrb
14:19.52gilligan_cbrake, actually I was just thinking.. maybe it shouldn't be zImage-cm-x270.cmx270 but rather something like zImage-cm-x270.usblink
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14:20.06gilligan_cbrake, the latter is more obvious and less redundant
14:20.13christopher<PROTECTED>
14:20.56cbrakegilligan_: you also use the *.cmx270 images when programming them using mtd utils -- ex: cat kernel.cmx270 > /dev/mtd2
14:21.01nudif [ -d ${STAGE_TEMP}/${datadir}/aclocal ]; then
14:21.14nudis there a reason for this line in autotools_stage_all() (autotools.class)
14:21.30nudinstead of a more generic  ${STAGE_TEMP}/${datadir} ?
14:21.43gilligan_cbrake, oops
14:22.25cbrakegilligan_: maybe *.cmx270-hack would be more appropriate :-)
14:23.08CIA-303hrw 07org.oe.dev * rdab300ab... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux.inc): linux: provide symlink to lastest kernel image built
14:23.13CIA-303hrw 07org.oe.dev * r0a4d4659... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux_2.6.22.bb): linux 2.6.22: provide symlink to latest kernel image built for Compulab CM-X270 board
14:23.18nudhrw, koen: any idea ?
14:23.39koennope, sorry
14:24.04nudit's breaking for me since I have something to install into staging in /usr/share
14:24.19gilligan_cbrake, yeah well.. dunno.. none of the alternatives look very pleasing hehe.. ah well.. not that it's a major issue..
14:24.21zeckeah git-repack -a -f -d  worked :)
14:24.37nudI guess this is because sometimes you want to install libs that are in a source tree with a program
14:27.20hrwnud: what if datadir exists but aclocal is not?
14:28.00hrwI think that .cmx270 is enough to mark that this is really machine specific
14:28.12nudhrw: http://rafb.net/p/lLidzk53.html <-- the function contents
14:28.42nudit copies into staging the include files, the .la and relevant .so files, and aclocal
14:29.02nudon my own, I have .mak files in share/$lib/make
14:29.15hrwnud: and it does not want to copy /usr/share/man so it do it like it does
14:29.25hrwnud: then add that into your own do_stage()
14:29.26nudI guess for compilation, the so and h files are enough in most cases
14:29.43ulituzecke:
14:29.43ulitu$ du -s .git/
14:29.43ulitu94580   .git/
14:30.02nudhrw: yeah, no problem, I just care about understanding why things are done this way
14:31.53XorAhrw: kismet doesnt use wireless tools
14:34.29gilligan_hrw, well given that "cm-x270" is included in the basename of the file makes it pretty clear that kernel is for the compulab hardware..  zImage makes it clear that it is a kernel.. the .bin ending = normal kernel image .. but the purpose of the .cmx270 file is not obvious. that's why i thought it could perhaps get a different name.. but I guess it'd be fine to just add some comments on this somewhere
14:34.52Croftonkismet users will end up in gitmo
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14:35.27hrwXorA: it was example
14:35.40flo_lapkoen: Apart from the fact that it would be a nice compile cluster note the name: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140164891341
14:35.50XorAhrw: examples should be good though :-D otherwise people put them in wikis
14:35.51hrwgilligan_: Cliff started using .cmx270 ;)
14:36.01hrwXorA: mockumentation?
14:36.06gilligan_hrw, right..
14:36.07nudgilligan_, cbrake: what about .mtdtools ?
14:36.09XorAhrw: yup
14:36.12gilligan_;]
14:37.55cbrakenud: but, you can also use the *.cmx270 files for the usblink utility :-)
14:38.38gilligan_that's why I originally suggested .usblink .. that's when cbrake brought my intention to mtd ... :)
14:39.02gilligan_*.foobar ?
14:39.06gilligan_:)
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14:42.31XorA@łe¶ŧ←↓→øþæßðđŋħjĸł«»¢“”nµ·
14:42.36XorAas possiblities
14:42.51gilligan_???
14:42.57XorA¹²³€½¾{[]}
14:42.59Croftonof for the days when you had to edit the kernel source from the Finnish keymap to the English one .....
14:43.05hrw♿ maybe?
14:43.07steliosk_|oedem
14:43.48zeckehttp://www.openembedded.org/~zecke/git/oe/ *finally*
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14:44.05gilligan_zecke, \o/
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14:48.21alphaonegit, git, git! :-)
14:48.49hrwsux sux sux! ;D
14:49.02zeckefood fight?
15:02.35lisppaste7hrw pasted "git fetcher update" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/48908
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15:05.59ulituzecke: do you plan to set up a 'real' git server?
15:06.35zeckeulitu: with the git protocol? rsync?
15:06.40ulitugit protocol
15:06.49zeckeI don't have any hosting
15:06.54nudrepo.or.cz
15:06.59ulituI see :-(
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15:07.23zeckenud: right, people can just mirror my http source
15:07.44ulituzecke: then you probably should not repack on the server
15:08.02nudzecke: actually you could just open a repository on repo.or.cz and clone your repo there
15:08.05ulituotherwise people will be downloading the whole pack every time, right?
15:08.58zeckeulitu: right :)
15:09.13zeckeulitu: but I had to do git-repack -a -f -d after git-fast-import, now I need to toy with window?
15:09.49ulituzecke: window?
15:09.55ulituwindows?
15:10.15nudjust drop mtn and use git instead :p
15:10.38chouimatewwww
15:13.00hrwI would prefer rcs
15:16.49zeckeljp: ping
15:16.59zeckeulitu: why do you want to have a git-server?
15:17.45ulituzecke: I thought it'd be a good idea to be able to only download what is needed on pull
15:18.07ulituzecke: and still get packages and not single files
15:18.09koenhttp://www.openembedded.org/~koen/OE-gui-flow.pdf
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15:18.51ulituzecke: you could probably still find a decent package size
15:18.58ulituand keep using http
15:20.13zeckekoen: is tinderclient and seppuku enabled by default in angstrom?
15:20.22zeckekoen: found my answer
15:20.24koenzecke: no
15:20.32koenzecke: it only has sane defaults for it
15:20.57zeckekoen: well, sane is in overriding my stuff from local.conf?
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15:25.56koenmickeyl: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/PyFeedRead
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15:28.46nudare there still proprietary parts needed for linux on n770 ?
15:29.49hrwofcourse
15:30.04hrwnud: but it depends what you mean by linux
15:30.18hrwif you can live without wifi then iirc you can be free
15:30.35nudwell, a n770 without wifi is not a real n770
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15:30.56nudare those proprietary parts included when building maemo or angstrom from OE ?
15:31.21nudor poky, fwiw
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15:31.31hrwdo not remember
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15:31.40nudok I'll check when I have time
15:32.04gilligan_cbrake, nud: by the way.. just now I recalled what fun i had when (before i was using OE) I at some point tried to write stuff to nand using the bootloader ...
15:32.07RPnud: You can include them if you build things yourself
15:32.31nudgilligan_: I tried scratchbox too ;-)
15:32.53gilligan_cbrake, nud: the tftp client is weird.. it wouldn't work with any of the tftp servers I could find when the file size exceeds some limit
15:33.11nudah ? I had no problem here
15:33.29koenscarebox
15:33.50gilligan_nud, and you've "big" files ? like 100MB or whatever ?
15:34.12gilligan_nud, s/you've/you've uploaded
15:34.22hrwsuxxbox?
15:34.34nudwell, the biggest I've used is the provided debian archive
15:34.34CIA-303freyther 07org.oe.dev * r57d49691... 10/ (13 files in 3 dirs): contrib/mtn2git: mtn add is not recursive by default, actually add files ;)
15:34.36nudthe one with hard FPU
15:34.59nudwhich makes you feel like on a SX40 when you're using a 500MHz ARM processor
15:35.31cbrakegilligan_: you could try scp as well, but I could not get scp to work in angstrom-minimal-image
15:36.30nudI use wget and boa
15:36.45nud(boa is a damn simple http server I use on the compilation box)
15:36.47nudwell I have to go
15:36.50nudlater
15:37.32gilligan_cbrake, well no..  tftp works fine.. the problem is the tftp client inside the compulab bootloader
15:37.52cbrakegilligan_: ahh, I thought you were talking about busybox tftp client -- sorry
15:38.12cbrakegilligan_: yes, I remember hitting some kind of limit as well at one point
15:38.30gilligan_cbrake, that limit was specified in the original tftp protocol
15:38.56gilligan_cbrake, however that was later modified, some extension was added (see RFCs..)
15:39.44gilligan_cbrake, but it seems like the compulab client does some odd stuff..  only the windows tftp server suggested by compulab seems to work
15:40.07cbrakegilligan_: bleh
15:40.20gilligan_but using a windows sharware tftp server doesn't exactly fit into my integration plans hehe
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15:42.09hrwulitu: which model of ROAD you have?
15:44.10ulituhrw: s101
15:44.14hrwthx
15:44.56gilligan_added code to test if armmon is responding to my upload tool .. cbrake&nud: if you would like to test it later on I could perhaps add it to /contrib ? (http://www.xuanfengjiao.de/cmx270_upload.txt <-- for some reason i have to rename it to .txt on the server...)
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15:57.18gilligan_(updated again)
16:00.05XorAhttp://wiki.openwrt.org/TableOfHardware has some machines with 2Mb flash
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16:19.20stefan|umtsXorA: We planned 80h/week for you, like harald. Fine?
16:19.25zeckeinit-ng
16:21.22XorAstefan|umts: heh heh, better start posting me Mate then
16:21.46koenmate junkies
16:25.43hrwhttp://wiki.debian.org/HackFests/Init
16:27.14CroftonMate will make you wild
16:27.29stefan|umtsXorA: Good reminder. We still need a channel to .tw . Could go over uk :)
16:29.28stefan|umtsXorA: :D
16:31.17cbrakegilligan_: pexpect might be a nice addition to your script
16:31.55cbrakegilligan_: I would go ahead and put it in contrib
16:34.00Croftondoes it build?
16:34.08Croftonheck, does it BLEND!
16:34.27koendon't be so elitist
16:36.05hrwXorA: stinking tofu from Miss Wu?
16:36.06gilligan_cbrake, pexpect to control which terminal software?
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16:37.00zeckeulitu: sei kein mathematiker ;)
16:37.01cbrakegilligan_: I guess that is overkill because you don't have to launch a program -- sorry, nevermind
16:37.45ulituzecke: but i am! ;-)
16:37.58ulituwhat can i do?
16:38.51steliosk_|oedempackages that build/don\t build in oplinux
16:38.53steliosk_|oedemhttp://rafb.net/p/ULib3M88.html
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16:43.02gilligan_cbrake, ;]
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16:59.13XorAflo_lap: xserver session scripts probably benefit from init work which I suspect is my job, they use similar functions
17:00.11flo_lapXorA: yes, that's true...
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17:09.58hrw33% of battery == 11 minutes ;(
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