IRC log for #oe on 20080104

00:00.30psokolovskyor maybe not drop, it's sample for PACKAGE_INSTALL_NO_DEPS
00:01.11thesingBut I don't need any kernel module in the image. Everything this image will need is compiled statically into the kernel.
00:02.29psokolovskythesing: well, then make it work for you. but initramfs is intended to be generic thing, and you cannot even think about generic with static kernel.
00:05.58psokolovskythesing: changing "remove ${PACKAGE_REMOVE};" into "remove ${PACKAGE_REMOVE} || true;" would be quick workaround
00:06.42thesingAn other thing: is there already a way to include the initramfs-image into a kernel in oe?
00:08.15psokolovskythesing: not that I know off. again, anti-generic. but would be nice too ;-). would require 2-stage kernel build process, or using external util altogether...
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00:12.15thesingwith no modules include in initramfs it wouldn't even need a 2-stage build process.
00:13.31thesingbtw. I was able to build initramfs-image after I build module-init-tools and update-modules manually.
00:13.33psokolovskythesing: well, good catch, but *unnnn*generic ;-)
00:14.22psokolovskythesing: also, external util won't help it seems, image is linked into kernel by the linker. (well, so ld could be used by such utils, but that's too hacky ;-) )
00:15.16thesingWell the first stage bootloader-linuxkernel will be device specific anyway.
00:15.29psokolovskythesing: hm, strange. well, as you didn't post error log, I just assumed that it fails trying to remove non-existent packages from *image*
00:15.50psokolovskythesing: *can* be, only can ;-)
00:16.21psokolovskythesing: if you have device-specific drivers compiled in, and generic driver as modules, it won't be ;-)
00:16.31psokolovskythat's semi-generically of course ;-)
00:17.33thesingTrue. But the location where to load the real kernel from will be device specific.
00:17.41thesing~pastebin
00:17.41ibot[~pastebin] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste
00:18.41psokolovskythesing: well, why? initramfs-bootmenu-image allows user to decide ;-)
00:21.02thesingbut its probably too big. initramfs + kernel <  1048576 KB for collie
00:21.12thesingnot KB but B
00:23.01thesingpsokolovsky: http://rafb.net/p/EfbTqV36.html is the important part of the errorlog.
00:23.01psokolovskythesing: well, device limits are another matter. it would be big, because it uses shell, so need busybox. you also either use shell, or do adhoc C hacking.
00:25.38psokolovskythesing: well, weird. but it always can be .bbclasses' missing dependencies...
00:25.57psokolovskythesing: you make fresh build as I understood?
00:27.15psokolovsky.. or the fact that you didn't use "-c buildall" for bitbake ...
00:28.20thesingnearly fresh. I build kernel and nano before..
00:29.32thesingshould  I use "-c buildall" ?
00:30.29psokolovskythesing: well, I can't see sth wrong in initramfs-* recipes. e.g., *-nfs pulls update-modules, so you likely have kernel module for nfs after all. the matter, somehow update-modules *ipk* is not written when its needed already ;-(
00:31.03psokolovskythesing: yes, for any issues that you don't have ipk's for the built packages, -c buildall should fix that
00:34.36CIA-2503pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r662671ac... 10/ (1 packages/images/initramfs-minimal-image.bb): initramfs-minimal-image: Revamp dependencies.
00:35.40thesingThanks for your help.
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00:38.30psokolovskythesing: I'm trying to utter it all in the mail to RP, maybe I'll be able to describe it, and he'll be able to suggest where to fix it ;-)
00:40.33bmidgleyrunning iptables gives me "getsockopt failed strangely: No such file or directory"
00:40.43bmidgleyany ideas what I might be missing? oe on gumstix
00:41.26thesingmaybe device files are missing?
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00:43.56bmidgleyI'll try to find what dev files it needs
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00:46.26thesingif normal networking works you should have the needed device files.
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01:50.49bmidgleythesing: yes normal networking does work
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03:59.43TartarusDoes meta-toolchain always fail the 1st time?
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04:24.25rushadrenalineAny body awake
04:25.30rushadrenalineWhile running "bitbake nano"
04:25.52rushadrenalinei get this error :::::        
04:25.55rushadrenaline[rahul@rahul org.openembedded.dev]$ bitbake nano
04:25.56rushadrenalinewarning: Not importing directory 'site': missing __init__.py
04:25.56rushadrenalineERROR: Unable to parse conf/bitbake.conf (conf/local.conf:60: unparsed line: '    MACHINE = "c6x0"')
04:29.13rushadrenalineany body
04:34.16xjqianrushadrenaline: check you python installation on host
04:40.58rushadrenalineok let me chk
04:44.14rushadrenalineI did this :::::::::::     [rahul@rahul org.openembedded.dev]$ find . | xargs grep "init__\.py"
04:44.35rushadrenalineAnd its showing __init.py files
04:44.43rushadrenalinea lot of them in the pwd
04:44.51rushadrenalinethen whats the problem
04:51.25xjqianrushadrenaline: can you pastebin your local.conf
04:54.18rushadrenalineyeah wait
04:56.47rushadrenalinehttp://pastebin.com/d7e24bb
04:56.48CIA-2503xjqian 07org.oe.dev * r2aa9256d... 10/ (6 files in 5 dirs):
04:56.48CIA-25dotconf: rename to libdotonf, fix packaging
04:56.48CIA-25* follow debian naming and packaging
04:56.48CIA-25* change dependency in speech-dispatcher
04:56.55rushadrenalinehttp://pastebin.com/d7e24bb
05:02.16xjqianhow about getting rid of the leading "tab"? of MACHINE and DISTRO
05:02.18rushadrenalineOk now im getting this error  :::::::    $]  bitbake nano
05:02.18rushadrenaline<PROTECTED>
05:02.42xjqianI suspect it's a "tab" not white space?
05:03.19xjqianoh
05:03.21xjqianwait
05:03.30xjqianwhere's no c6x0
05:03.43rushadrenalineok yeah let me chk
05:03.44xjqianthere's no c6x0
05:03.52rushadrenalinehow to insert the tab
05:03.58xjqiani remember it should be c7x0
05:04.23xjqiansorry, I meant don't use tab. but that's not your problem anyway
05:05.00xjqiancheck conf/machine
05:06.14xjqianthere's only c7x0, which is a unified conf for all c6x0, c7x0, and c8x0, etc.
05:06.23rushadrenalineeven after changing to "c7x0"   im getting the same -- "unable to parse bitbake.conf...." error
05:06.48rushadrenalineERROR: Unable to parse conf/bitbake.conf (conf/local.conf:60: unparsed line: '   MACHINE = "c7x0"')
05:08.12xjqianBBFILES := "${HOME}/stuff/org.openembedded.dev/packages/*/*.bb"
05:08.26xjqianis this the actual directory name?
05:09.23rushadrenalinehey xjqian
05:09.30rushadrenalinei fixed it
05:10.03rushadrenalineactually there were lots of spaces prior to DISTRO and MACHINE
05:10.07rushadrenalinei removed them
05:10.15rushadrenalineBut now a different error
05:10.36rushadrenaline[rahul@rahul OpenEmbeded_testing]$ bitbake nano
05:10.37rushadrenalineERROR:  Openembedded's config sanity checker detected a potential misconfiguration.
05:10.37rushadrenaline<PROTECTED>
05:10.37rushadrenaline<PROTECTED>
05:10.37rushadrenaline<PROTECTED>
05:10.37rushadrenalinePlease set a valid MACHINE in your local.conf
05:11.12xjqianBBFILES := "${HOME}/stuff/org.openembedded.dev/packages/*/*.bb"  ? have you fixed this line
05:11.20rushadrenalinelet me chk
05:12.33xjqianseems you are missing a lot configuration steps
05:12.56xjqianhave you followed http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom, or jump started to bitbake nano
05:13.57rushadrenalineYeah i edited the BBFILES
05:14.13rushadrenalineactually my target is mipsel
05:14.23rushadrenalinei want to build for mipsel
05:14.48rushadrenalineagain the same previous error::::::::  
05:14.51rushadrenalinePlease set TARGET_ARCH directly, or choose a MACHINE or DISTRO that does so.
05:14.51rushadrenalinePlease set a valid MACHINE in your local.conf
05:14.51rushadrenalinePlease install following missing utilities: makeinfo
05:15.15rushadrenalineBut there is no package named "makeinfo" in mandriva 2008
05:15.51xjqianfind one or build from source for "makeinfo" on your host
05:16.16xjqianthe other problem is that: you make not have BBPATH setup
05:16.46xjqianwhat's your output of `echo $BBPATH`
05:17.06rushadrenalineecho $BBPATH
05:17.06rushadrenaline/home/rahul/OpenEmbeded_testing/build:/home/rahul/OpenEmbeded_testing/org.openembedded.dev
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05:18.42xjqianlooks fine. then get makeinfo built and try again
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05:22.08rushadrenalineCan u pastebin an example local.conf, if u have one on ur system
05:22.44xjqiansure, mine is very simple
05:24.39xjqianhttp://pastebin.com/me736998
05:26.20rushadrenalineHey xjqian
05:26.42rushadrenalinei comented out the MACHINE = "c6x0"
05:26.56rushadrenalineand un commented TARGET_ARCH = "mipsel"
05:27.09rushadrenalineNow im not getting target/ machine error
05:27.45rushadrenalineBut the only error left is makeinfo not found,,,,Is texinfo same as makeinfo
05:28.43xjqianno, i don't think so
05:29.26TartarusDo I need to fetch from that, rather than the yahoo one?
05:29.28Tartarusga
05:29.49rushadrenalineWhat machine code do i set in MACHINE for mipsel
05:30.15xjqianif you are not using a pre-defined MACHINE conf, there's quite a few things you need to define besides "TARGET_ARCH". read the OE online manual
05:30.44rushadrenalineCoz u have done it the other way round in your local.conf,,,,uve uncomented MACHINE,,,and comented TARGET_ARCH
05:30.59xjqianI have to go. good luck.
05:31.02rushadrenalineok
05:31.05rushadrenalinethanx
05:31.56xjqianthe predefined MACHINE conf includes TARGET_ARCH, TARGET_OS, kernel version, etc
05:32.40xjqianlook it up under conf/machine, you should find MACHINE is a super set of those
05:33.30xjqianso if you are not using MACHINE conf, you have to define every bit of fine details by yourself
05:33.51xjqianreally have to go. bye
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08:11.12XorA,orning
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08:34.56rushadrenaline[rahul@rahul OpenEmbeded_testing]$ bitbake nano
08:34.56rushadrenalineERROR: Please set the 'CACHE' variable.
08:35.38rushadrenalinenebody awake????????
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09:10.23nud_hello
09:10.30nud_in OE, tree 1.5.1 is still the prefered version despite it's not buildable at all
09:10.59nud_(due to the tarball having been changed and thus not matching the checksum)
09:11.17nud_what about removing that package once and for all now there is a tree 1.5.1.1 package ?
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09:15.51vik_3278hi everyone.
09:16.05vik_3278I'm having problems building images and maybe someone can help
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09:16.36vik_3278| + cp zImage-c7x0.bin Angstrom-base-image-glibc-ipk-2007.11RC3-c7x0-installkit/zImage.bin
09:16.36vik_3278| cp: cannot stat `zImage-c7x0.bin': No such file or directory
09:16.59vik_3278seem to be missing the zImage-xxxx.bin file. any ideas how I can get it back?
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09:27.55XorAnud_: feel free to file a bug with a new .bb file, but try and remeber to tell us what bb file you talk of :-D
09:29.08XorAnud_: oh, I read that as "OE tree" not "OE, tree" sorry
09:29.58nud_XorA: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3208
09:30.40nud_no need for a new bb file actually
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09:39.27vik_3278never mind, I just had to rebuild virtual/kernel
09:49.24CIA-2503koen 07org.oe.dev * ra2818f15... 10/ (9 files in 3 dirs): conf/distro: remove angstrom 2007.1, update dependant distros to 2008, special-case openmoko
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09:56.50gremlin[it]morning all
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10:09.37CoreDumpmorning
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10:27.34hrwmorning
10:29.17RPmorning all
10:30.41CoreDumpmorning hrw, RP
10:30.42gremlin[it]hi hrw, RP
10:30.51gremlin[it]hi CoreDump too
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10:53.50CoreDumphrw: do you know if the n810 comes w/ USB host and external CF slots (for GPS)
10:54.29RPCoreDump: No CF slot and USB host is unpowered so needs some fiddling
10:54.37hrwCoreDump: I do not have idea
10:54.40CoreDumpmehhhhhh =(
10:54.47RPCoreDump: n810 has a built in gps though
10:55.07CoreDumphrw: sorry
10:55.18CoreDumpRP: is there an OSS driver for the GPS?
10:55.50RPCoreDump: Not sure, I've never looked...
10:56.12CoreDumpRP: I will investigate, thank you
10:56.19hrwCoreDump: its finnish company so expect it closed for some time ;D
10:57.31CoreDumphrw: =)
10:58.11hrwnot that other Finnish companies follow that way of course
10:59.49rwhitbymorning
11:00.06RPhi rwhitby
11:00.22rwhitbyRP: I'm finally going to start on that 8-bit latch LEDs driver this weekend, so you might be getting a few questions ...
11:01.27RPrwhitby: ok, np :)
11:02.00RPrwhitby: Which kernel version are you working on?
11:02.38rwhitby2.6.21.7, then forward-porting to latest
11:02.51rwhitbyare there any changes between?
11:03.28RPThere were some fixes for some nasty internal locking issues which are only in the latest mainline git kernels
11:04.07rwhitbyone question I have is whether I should put the physical address of the memory-mapped latch in the leds driver itself, or define some machine-specific functions in the board code to set the latch and then use those functions in the led driver - what do you think?
11:04.16RPIf you had something between 2.6.24-rc3? and 2.6.24-rc6+git I'd have recommended getting the latest bleeding edge patches
11:04.17rwhitby(the functions would not be used anywhere else)
11:04.50RPI usually put the address as a define in the machine's header file
11:05.00RPand include said header file in the driver
11:05.26rwhitbysounds like a plan to me, thx.
11:06.21rwhitbyhowever, I was wondering whether there was a need for a generic memory-mapped latch driver, which takes the address as a parameter somehow ...
11:06.48RPSee how the driver looks
11:07.07gremlin[it]mhh about n810 ... i don't understand the "internal 2G" storage ... is a micro-sd pre-installed or is a truly not removable storage, soldered nand ? somebody know something about ?
11:07.18hrwgremlin[it]: nand
11:07.27hrwgremlin[it]: n00 (proto of n810) had 4gb
11:07.28RPrwhitby: With the zaurus, I decided a once only use driver for each class of machines ware the right thing to do, anything else was just going to be overkill
11:07.44rwhitbyRP: e.g. the ixp4xx-gpio-leds driver has parameters for the offsets of the different leds.
11:07.54rwhitbyso I'm at least going to do that.
11:08.07rwhitby(since I'm going to start with that driver as the base)
11:08.08synkok
11:08.23RPrwhitby: It depends whether you think anything is ever going to have this hardware setup again?
11:08.28synkosoz for the "k"
11:10.10gremlin[it]mhh ok thanks hrw
11:10.21rwhitbyRP: any style issues with leds-ixp4xx-gpio.c before I use it as a starting point?
11:10.43hrwgremlin[it]: look at recent kernel into drivers->mtd
11:11.08hrwgremlin[it]: 'save oops in mtd', 'use mtd as swap' - and check (C) for it and authors
11:12.50RPrwhitby: I remember it had the weird license. Just had a look at leds-spitz or leds-corgi too to see how simple something not so generic can be too
11:13.04RPs/had/have/
11:13.25rwhitbyoh, dual MIT/GPL. right.
11:13.33rwhitbyjbowler liked mit license
11:13.41RPyes :)
11:13.54RPLinus himself had to comment on that before it was allowed into mainline
11:14.48rwhitbyheh
11:15.00gremlin[it]hrw ... a finnish one guy ??? :D
11:18.30rwhitbyRP: it is kosher to have static variables in the led driver - e.g. the address of the latch, the current value of the latch, and a persistent blink mask for the latch?
11:19.07RPrwhitby: as long as only one device will ever be present
11:19.35rwhitbysince it's hardware-specific, that will be the case.
11:21.43rwhitbyRP: I'll also need a static struct timer_list in there to do the blinking.
11:22.17RPrwhitby: blinking is done by triggers, not the driver
11:22.34rwhitbyah, ok.  that saves me worrying about that.
11:22.36RPrwhitby: If you get too many static variables, put then in some kind of "context" struct
11:23.32rwhitbyI think I only need two static vars - one for the address of the latch and one for the current value of the latch
11:23.53rwhitby(since it's not readable)
11:24.06RPthat makes sense
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11:32.56hrwhi florian
11:33.05floriangood morning
11:33.15CoreDumphey flo
11:35.12rwhitbyRP: I'd better base my file on leds-spitz.c, so I don't need to propagate the dual mit/gpl license text ...
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11:35.54RPrwhitby: ;-)
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11:58.02Jin^eLDre
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12:02.40florianJin^eLD: wb
12:05.09Jin^eLDhi florian
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12:17.19nik0nany1 has the 2440test.bin file for the samsug s3c2440 SoC?
12:17.31nik0nneed to restore my flash
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12:27.22rwhitbyRP: it compiles without warnings - that's a good start :-)
12:29.37rwhitbyRP: if I've compiled a led driver as a module, do I need to reflash the kernel before I modprobe the driver?
12:29.58RPrwhitby: Probably not as long as you didn't change anything in the kernel
12:30.08RPrwhitby: Were LEDs enabled before?
12:30.19rwhitbyyes, for ixp4xx built-in
12:30.27RPshould be fine then
12:41.24keesjdoes anybody have experiance in testing the kernel on an embedded device?
12:42.08keesjI was thinking about testing the behaviour of mainly sysfs
12:48.32keesjnik0n: I found it in 2440atest-rev06-040607.zip http://maemo.mmapps.net/2440test.bin
12:51.23keesjI would like to test the interface using only the serial if possible
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13:36.11Crofton|homehmm, seems like we need to wake him up first :)
13:36.17rwhitbyI don't know where they got the "stable and user-friendly" description of Angstrom from - that wasn't in the article I submitted to them!
13:36.41Crofton|homeESP
13:36.46rwhitby(I wouldn't describe Angstrom on the NSLU2 as user-friendly at all - it's a command line bare linux box)
13:36.49Crofton|homeI wonder if that is on the Angstrom website
13:37.13Crofton|homerwhitby, that is my description of user-friendly, everything else just confuses them :)
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13:42.20likewiserwhitby: does nlsu2 plan to move to .23 kernel soon, or stick with .21 for a while? I'm now bringing in the squashfs lzma patches into OE, also I'ld like to build a real-time kernel (-rt patch) for ixp4xx.
13:42.50rwhitbylikewise: I believe the mac address patches we've just written for 2.6.23 allows us to now move to 2.6.23 for ixp4xx
13:43.11likewiserwhitby: ok, good. I'll focus on .23 then. Which is nicer for -rt.
13:43.31rwhitbylikewise: do you have svn write access to the nslu2-linux kernel repo?
13:44.03likewiserwhitby: I think I do yes. Have to find the keys though.
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14:02.49likewiserwhitby: I sent my details for svn access on 30 Nov '06, but lost your response e-mail with the details, and moved to fresh installations a few times, only thinking of backing-up my OE access keys, not nslu2.
14:03.38likewiserwhitby: the email thread had "[RFC][PATCH] squashfs support for linux-2.6.19-rc" in the title
14:04.20rwhitbylikewise: what would your preferred username have been?
14:04.40rwhitbyor the email address you would have given (feel free to /msg me)
14:08.07rwhitbylikewise: resent
14:08.08nik0nkeesj: thanks
14:08.21nik0nanyone in here using embedian boards?
14:09.07likewiserwhitby: thanks, got it.
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14:16.51Jin^eLDdo we have a Broadcom BCM947XX machine in OE?
14:17.30nik0nJin^eLD: istn't that the WRT54/ASUS WL500 chip?
14:17.36Jin^eLDI am not sure
14:17.47Jin^eLDcould be though
14:17.52nik0nill have a look sec
14:18.18Jin^eLDyou are right
14:18.56nik0nCPU: BCM4704 rev 9 is WL-500g/WRT
14:19.04nik0nsays dmesg
14:19.16Jin^eLDcpu model : BCM3302 V0.6
14:19.23Jin^eLDthat's what I am looking for hmm
14:21.50Jin^eLDdo you know if it's just a mips or if I need something fancy?
14:22.28hrwBCM3302 in wrt54gs
14:22.38nik0nmy wl tells me: system type             : Broadcom BCM4704 chip rev 9
14:22.44likewiseJin^eLD: http://www.linux-mips.org/archives/linux-mips/2007-08/msg00103.html
14:22.46nik0ncpu model               : BCM3302 V0.6
14:22.47hrwcpu model               : BCM3302 V0.7
14:23.06Jin^eLDThe thing I need to compile for is this: http://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=4701011
14:23.29likewiseJin^eLD: http://people.debian.org/~aurel32/bcm947xx/
14:23.51Jin^eLDcool thanks, allthough I do not even need to build the kernel, just crosscompile an app for the existing firmware
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14:24.09likewiseJin^eLD: ok, so you need the proper toolchain.
14:24.11Jin^eLDI'll try with wrt54.conf then
14:24.25Jin^eLDyep
14:27.28Jin^eLD!mirrors
14:27.31Jin^eLD~mirrors
14:27.31ibotfrom memory, mirrors is Official Debian archive mirrors get an address of the form ftp://ftp.<country>.debian.org. These are the best advertised and most used sites; the face of Debian for most people. A list is available at http://www.debian.org/mirror/official/
14:27.35Jin^eLDhmm
14:27.39Jin^eLDlike, OE mirrors :)
14:27.52Jin^eLDdoh.. I'll check the page
14:28.02Jin^eLDor not.. main finally responded
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14:29.43ibotoemirrors is probably extra, extra, read all about it, oemirrors is OpenEmbedded monotone mirrors are ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl, monotone.nslu2-linux.org, opensource.wolfsonmicro.com also see http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted
14:29.50chouimat|workmorning
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14:39.01XorA~lart nokia for sending out emails saying codes are valid when they are not :-(
14:39.01ibothurls dozens of incontinent, insomniac, hungry kittens with tiny little razor-sharp claws and a wide variety of contagious intestinal parasites at nokia for sending out emails saying codes are valid when they are not :-(
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14:47.58XorAordered my n810
14:53.09XorARP: coz you work for them indirectly?
14:53.21chouimat|workhow much they are?
14:53.33XorAchouimat|work: 66 GBP with developer discount
14:53.45RPXorA: I thought I wasn't allowed to apply...
14:54.07chouimat|worknice ... that about 150cad
14:54.14chouimat|workmaybe less
14:54.22XorARP: it said, employees and contracters of nokia so I assumed OH was not allowed
14:54.44chouimat|workXorA: where is this application link?
14:55.14XorAchouimat|work: been and gone
14:55.20RPXorA: I also assumed I wasn't, then I found out about the list of people who got discount codes, some of whom told me not to apply
14:55.30XorARP: gits
14:55.47gremlin[it]XorA, how mush cost n810 ??? how to obtain developer discount ?
14:55.51XorARP: time for the baseball bats?
14:55.59XorAgremlin[it]: your too late for developer discount
14:56.05gremlin[it]uff
14:56.11chouimat|work:'(
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14:56.31RPXorA: maybe next time I see them ;-)
14:56.33gremlin[it]ah no ... probably i subscribed ... but got no answer ;(
14:57.36XorAhmm, sony maybe closed source evilness, but they sure seem to know how to put together systems
14:58.47XorAalthough they have fucked up the developer codes, so watch out for not so clever people you can scam :-)
15:00.28rwhitbyRP: ping
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15:01.40rwhitbyRP: can you review http://svn.nslu2-linux.org/svnroot/kernel/trunk/patches/2.6.21/98-fsg3-leds.patch for me please?  It insmods fine, but I don't see anything under /sys/class/leds/ ...
15:04.20rwhitbyRP: all the leds turn off on module insertion, so I know I've got the latch writing operation reasonably correct.
15:07.34rwhitbyaha, I guess I need a struct platform_device in the board code
15:10.41RPrwhitby: right
15:11.02RPrwhitby: I was just about to say, do you register the corresponding platform_device ? :)
15:11.04rwhitbyDo I need CONFIG_LEDS around the stuff in the board code?
15:11.29rwhitbyRP: so it's not enough just to insert the module, cause nothing registers it :-)
15:11.48RPrwhitby: No, not in the board code
15:11.59RPrwhitby: Its not enough, no ;-)
15:12.19RPrwhitby: Unless you register the platform device in the module to, I have done that for testing before
15:12.47rwhitbyCan I still have it as a module if it's being registered in the board code?
15:12.58RPyes
15:13.19rwhitbyok, let me rebuild this kernel and test ...
15:13.49rwhitbyit's 1:45am here, so let's hope it works first time.
15:13.53RPThe board bit is like a declaration of features, this board has device X at Y, device E at F etc. A driver is only loaded if the board has the particular feature
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15:22.23rwhitbyRP: anything else in http://svn.nslu2-linux.org/svnroot/kernel/trunk/patches/2.6.21/98-fsg3-leds.patch look dodgy to you?
15:24.40RPrwhitby: Those volatiles. Do you need them?
15:25.12RPYou don't need one for certain, not sure about the other
15:25.37TartarusAnyone have a problem with meta-toolchain needing to be bitbake'd twice, for it to package?
15:25.48RPrwhitby: coding style in the init/exit functions
15:26.26RPrwhitby: You leak memory if platform_driver_register() fails
15:26.52RPrwhitby: The if isn't needed in the _exit function
15:27.15rwhitbyagreed on all except the last.  why isn't it needed?
15:27.30rwhitby(what happens if I load, unload, load, unload the module ...
15:28.04RPrwhitby: exit is only called if init succeeds. It will always be iomapped if that funciton is called
15:28.13RPyou need the iounmap, the if is just pointless
15:28.36rwhitbyah, ok.  right.
15:28.46RPprobe is also buggy - what happens if the led registrations fail half way through?
15:29.06rwhitbyagreed.
15:29.26RPNothing major though, don't take any of this the wrong way :)
15:29.35rwhitbyI'm loving it.
15:29.48rwhitbyanything above probe?
15:30.18rwhitbyare the 'fsg:' prefixes required on the names?
15:30.37RPrwhitby: I'd prefer it
15:30.50RPGives me a good hint in bug reports which driver it was if nothing else
15:31.37RPrwhitby: You should look at the latest git changes that are queued - it makes "function" a specificed part of the name but as the 3rd field. This means the names should really be fst::wlan etc.
15:32.19rwhitbyok, I have the module insmodded, and the leds are registered.
15:32.36rwhitbyand I see the device entries under /sys/class/leds
15:33.57rwhitbyhmm - the fsg: bit is really ugly in the filesystem
15:34.30RPthe shell needs the : escaped :/
15:34.40rwhitbyyeah, that's what makes it ugly
15:35.06rwhitbyI'm going to try and sneak it past the leds subsystem maintainer without the 'fsg::' bit in the name ....
15:35.24RPThat won't work :(
15:35.28rwhitbyDoh!
15:36.06rwhitbyseems my leds don't work either :-(
15:36.20RPIf you complain, the result will be they get numbered 0 to 6 and the name buried in a file called name and a file called function :/
15:37.10rwhitbythose sysfs people are "interesting"
15:37.25rwhitby(I was once copied on a flamewar amongst them)
15:38.01rwhitbyMy "writew(latch_value |=  (1 << FSG_LED_WLAN_BIT), latch_address);" logic must be broken
15:38.17rwhitbytime for some printk's tomorrow.
15:38.20rwhitbynight all.
15:38.39rwhitbyRP: thanks heaps for your review comments - I really do appreciate you taking the time
15:38.59RPrwhitby: np, pleased to help. 'night!
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15:46.35Bernardohi
15:51.47Croftonwhat package manager does ubuntu use?
15:51.55hrwdpkg
15:53.54ade|desksynaptics is the usual frontend to dpkg on ubuntu
15:57.19rjekSynaptics are a manufacturer of track pads. :)
15:57.35rjekSynaptic, as its name suggests, is a front end to apt.
15:59.13CoreDump=)
15:59.53hrwI prefer aptitude
16:00.07hrwthere is also Adept as gui
16:00.12CoreDumpand I apt-get muhaha
16:01.57BernardoI'm trying to build for the simpad using the angstrom-stable branch, and I'm getting a strange error with qemu-arm
16:02.21Bernardommap: Permission denied
16:02.29BernardoI didn't see it building for the akita
16:02.50Bernardoand can't find any reference to it in OE's bugzilla or google
16:02.55XorABernardo: redhat?
16:03.14Bernardoubuntu hardy alpha
16:03.16Bernardo:)
16:03.39XorAthats the sort of wierd thing you get in redhat/fedora when the security patches in the kernel trip you up
16:04.15Bernardothe strange thing is that I built from scratch (rm -rf work) for the akita a couple of days ago and didn't have the problem
16:04.38Bernardoand I'm using the smae local.conf, just replaced akita with simpad
16:04.40Bernardosame
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16:12.27hrwBernardo: you do not have selinux enabled?
16:15.36RPBernardo: Is this qemu 20071121?
16:15.39Bernardono, only apparmor
16:15.43Bernardolet me check
16:16.01RPBernardo: It could be apparmor...
16:16.04Bernardo0.9.0+20070816-1ubuntu3
16:16.25RPBernardo: Is OE building qemu or are you using your distro's version?
16:17.11Bernardoit should be building qemu, but I think it is using the native version
16:17.49Bernardoit is building qemu
16:17.59Bernardoqemu-native-0.9.0+cvs20070613-r5
16:20.45RPBernardo: My theory about 20071121 isn't valid then
16:21.02Bernardono, as the bb file isn't even in the stable packages
16:21.36Bernardocould be apparmour, as I am using a diferent build dir (/home is already full) but it should show on syslog, right?
16:22.52CIA-2503koen 07org.oe.dev * r3e6216a4... 10/ (1 contrib/angstrom/build-release.sh): angstrom autobuilder: also build uclibc images
16:23.47Bernardobut there's nothing in syslog...
16:23.48Bernardo:(
16:26.16Bernardook, time to clean /home and get a few free GB
16:26.23Bernardoand see if it is path related
16:28.06hrwbye
16:29.55Bernardobye hrw|gone
16:41.39Bernardook, there is something strange with the permissions, moving the dir I get a lot of permission denied problems
16:41.54Bernardo" /opt/build/simpad/tmp/work/i686-linux/ncurses-native-5.4-r10/ncurses-5.4/.pc/visibility.patch/m4/templates.m4"
16:41.56Bernardois one
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17:02.35RPBernardo: Its quilt, it marks files as having no read permissions
17:02.45RPI have never dared find out why
17:04.47Bernardoah
17:05.07Bernardobut there is something else at work here
17:06.43Bernardowell, I'll try again to build, this time under home and not under opt
17:06.45zeckeotavio: I had to tweak my script and starting all over now :}
17:07.11Bernardoif it works, I'll know it is some obscure setting, possibly in apparmour
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17:21.16Bernardook, it still doesn't work, fails at the locale generation as it did when building under opt
17:21.19otaviozecke: hi
17:21.23otaviozecke: ok :(
17:21.36Bernardonow the only difference to the working akita build is local.conf
17:21.40otaviozecke: so it will probably break the repository for merging, right:
17:21.42otavio?
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17:27.26Jin^eLDI see there is an own branch for angstrom now, so I guess stuff from .dev will be pulled over from time to time, but otherwise the stable branch will be something "conservative" ?
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17:33.58zeckeotavio: let me see. In the worst case it is a git-rebase --onto and we have done that with webkit
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17:38.19otaviozecke: will take a look too.
17:38.27otaviozecke: it's suppose to work now?
17:39.07zeckeotavio: not yet, it will take another day or two :)
17:39.59otaviozecke: THAT LONG! OMG!
17:40.43zeckeotavio: it is converting revs from 2006 :)
17:42.46otaviowow!
17:42.46otaviook
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18:02.51DarthWaderhm, does anyone know where can i ask about wrt54gs devices?
18:04.44Jin^eLDDarthWader: openwrt?
18:04.58Jin^eLDat least I think there is openwrt for it so those guys might now something
18:05.13Jin^eLDthere is a wrt54 machine conf in OE too, actually I was looking for it today :)
18:05.21DarthWadernah, about hw
18:05.52TartarusAnyone around that uses meta-toolchain?
18:06.15Jin^eLDTartarus: I think I was trying to with variable success
18:07.07TartarusJin^eLD, I found I had to run the bitbake command twice, to get it to work
18:08.03Jin^eLDTartarus: I had various strange things regarding it, I was able to figure out one thing which should be fixed by now but I did not have the time to follow up on the rest
18:08.23Jin^eLDdoes it also package some wrong directories for you?
18:08.28Jin^eLDI had my /home/bla in the tar
18:09.32Tartarusyeah
18:10.20Tartarusi'm not using the absolute latest metadata, about a month old now i think
18:10.31Tartarusi'll try and kick off a current try today
18:14.47Tartarusthe logic behind using our local mirror of sources
18:14.48Tartarusga
18:15.04Jin^eLDI tried it couple of weeks ago, but I think the wrong dir packaging will still be there
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18:26.21DarthWaderJin^eLD: dou you have any experience with wrt54gs v7 ?
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19:28.57anthi
19:29.35antguess I stumbled by the way in a new small GPE bug...but need help to categorize it
19:30.16antin GPE Package-Manager the "gpe-ownerinfo" package appears NOT installed
19:30.22antbut it is...
19:30.48antso, bug against GPE or ackage Manager?
19:31.07ant*Hackage
19:31.13ant*Package
19:35.42ant...no trace of gpe-ownerinfo doing "ipkg list_installed" from console
19:44.56flo_lapant: then its a bug in ipkg
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20:00.12fun_in_oehey all, i'm back
20:00.44fun_in_oewould anyone care to help me wade through forcing packages to be added to my image?
20:01.12fun_in_oei see them built in my deploy/ipk dir
20:08.30cbrakefun_in_oe: this might help: http://bec-systems.com/web/content/view/79/9/
20:10.11fun_in_oeyeah, tried that, no luck
20:11.20fun_in_oein the recipe that i've been given, they are using PACKAGES_EXTRA += "<package_name>
20:15.20cbrakefun_in_oe: ANGSTROM_EXTRA_INSTALL?  Yes, that is doing almost the same things as the article I wrote suggests.
20:15.42cbrakefun_in_oe: it simply adds more things to the IMAGE_INSTALL var in a image recipe
20:16.24cbrakefun_in_oe: the advantage to creating your own recipe is now it is called something different and does not get mixed up with standard images
20:19.10fun_in_oewell, 1st i'd like to thank you for writing the article in the 1st place as, it seems to simplify things for everyone
20:19.38fun_in_oeunfortunately, i've be given an environment w/o any notes
20:20.11fun_in_oeso, while i am tasked with ading bluetooth to the image, i'm now spending a LOT of time trying to figure out their build env
20:20.50fun_in_oei edited the necessary defconfig file in the work dir to add the bluetooth module
20:21.11fun_in_oei can see the bluetooth module ipk built
20:22.11fun_in_oethen when either adding the bluez-utils package either via PACKAGES_EXTRA or IMAGE_INSTALL, they still don't seem to be added to the image
20:22.21fun_in_oewell, that's not 100% correct
20:22.45fun_in_oei DO see hciattach but, no hciconfig or hcitool
20:23.26fun_in_oewhich, i thought were part of the bluez utils package
20:23.41cbrakefun_in_oe: after you boot your unit, you can use "ipkg list_installed" to see exactly what is in the image
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20:24.43fun_in_oecould you recommend the best way to see what packages are being added to the image @ build time?
20:24.52cbrakefun_in_oe: then, you can see what is in each package by looking in the tmp/work/..../<package>/install directory
20:25.35cbrakefun_in_oe: I don't know of a good way -- perhaps bitbake -vvvv and then do some text searching during rootfs stage
20:26.07cbrakefun_in_oe: actually, make that bitbake -DDDD
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20:32.42fun_in_oehere's a very sad thing, under work/<machine>/<my_recipe_name>/install
20:32.47fun_in_oethere is nothing listed
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20:35.12cbrakefun_in_oe: you don't want <machine>, try arm.. or what ever architecture you are working with
20:35.54cbrakefun_in_oe: see, most packages are not target machine specific, they are architecture specific as in armv4t, armv5te, i686, etc
20:37.05fun_in_oei'm sorry, that's really what i meant to say there <arch>
20:37.40cbrakefun_in_oe: well, unless you have the rm_work setting specified, if you build a package, it should be there
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20:38.57cyrilRomainmorning all
20:39.22fun_in_oei'm seeing my ipks under build/tmp/deploy/ipk
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20:43.56cbrakefun_in_oe: you may have rm_work set in local.conf -- not sure if that is the correct name, but something like that
20:44.27fun_in_oehello cyrilRomain! happy '08!
20:44.49cyrilRomainfun_in_oe: hey ! happy new hacking year ;)
20:45.18flo_laphi cyrilRomain
20:45.24fun_in_oehe happy prt is still up in the air
20:45.30fun_in_oe; p
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21:09.26thesinghi everybody
21:16.58flo_laphi thesing
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21:23.12CIA-2503crofton 07org.oe.dev * rfa0e8dd8... 10/ (6 files in 3 dirs):
21:23.12CIA-25linux-omap2 : Move defconfigs into omap2430sdp directory. These files do
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21:26.47KhemCrofton: ping
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22:03.08Khemanyone working on http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3561
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22:04.35CoreDump!oebug 3561
22:04.37cdbot2* * Bug 3561, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-12-26 03:35
22:04.38cdbot2* * c.romain(AT)laposte.net: bluez-cups-backend-3.23 do_patch failure
22:04.38likewisekhem: not that I know
22:04.38cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3561
22:05.25Khemlikewise: I do not understand the bug enough but it tells me this
22:05.41KhemNOTE: consider defining PREFERRED_PROVIDER_bluez-utils-dbus
22:05.49KhemERROR: Multiple files due to be built which all provide bluez-utils-dbus
22:06.08Khemorg.openembedded.dev/packages/bluez/bluez-utils_3.24.bb
22:06.15Khemorg.openembedded.dev/packages/bluez/bluez-cups-backend_3.24.bb
22:07.33fun_in_oei'm not working on it but, i AM trying to get that bluez-utils package installed
22:07.38fun_in_oew/o luck i might add
22:11.16likewiseKhem: I have no idea what the recipe writer meant to do here. Both recipes include the bluez-utils3.inc, which sets PROVIDES to bluez-utils-dbus. So if someone wants to build bluez-utils-dbus, that someone must tell which provider she wants (PREFERRED_PROVIDER). The bug reporter has not done this, AFAICS.
22:15.01Khemlikewise: what is the difference between both recipes
22:15.25likewiseKhem: good point, the first one also seems to have --enable-cups, so I am confused.
22:17.22likewiseKhem: second one has alsa disabled.
22:18.06likewisekhem: the second one places a RDEPENDS on cups, the first one does not
22:18.32Khemalsa and cups
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22:19.36vinz0rexit
22:27.40fun_in_oecan anyone help me to determine why with bluez-utils 3.24 installed, i have hciattach and not hcitool or hciconfig?
22:34.20pb_fun_in_oe: what does the .bb file for bluez-utils say should be in that package?
22:35.52CroftonKhem, pong
22:36.20CroftonI made that copmmit in a hurry, hopefully it does not break anything you were doing
22:36.28CroftonI was having trouble getting the kernel to build
22:36.28KhemCrofton: no it does not
22:36.49KhemCrofton: However I think omap1-2-3 is generic I kind of like that
22:38.09fun_in_oepb_    TY, i actually see that those (hciconfig & hcitool) are now in bluez-utils-compt
22:38.42fun_in_oehowever, i thought that bluez-utils-compat was a dependancy of bluez-utils
22:39.03pb_flo_lap: very good
22:39.52flo_lappb_: Not that this should be that complicated, but it seems to be easy to get some configuration wrong...
22:40.40flo_lapapart from the fact that the platform is not really new...  but it looks scary :)
22:41.06flo_lapand the bootloader sucks
22:41.19Khemtask-base-bluetooth should pull in bluez-utils-compt
22:41.49pb_fun_in_oe: it does sound like a bug if those files were just yanked out of bluez-utils without providing any compatibility path.
22:42.12pb_if they were moved to a new package then yeah, you would expect that the old one would at least Recommend the new one
22:42.34pb_flo_lap: heh
22:43.23CroftonKhem, I moved the defconfig to a machine specific directory, the defconfig does call out a specific machine
22:43.46KhemCrofton: on second thought may be its ok
22:44.00CroftonKhem, at some point we need to move all the omap stuff into linux.inc style, or better, have some of the functions in linux.inc go into a bbclass :)
22:44.18KhemCrofton: yes most desired
22:44.34Croftonfor some reason the kernel build did not pick up the defconfig until I put it in the machine directory
22:50.58cyrilRomainKhem: indeed I can specify PREFERRED_PROVIDER_bluez-utils-dbus, but it would not solve the problem if someone set PREFERRED_PROVIDER_bluez-utils-dbus = "bluez-cups-backend"
22:51.19cyrilRomainKhem: I'm not sure if the latter makes sense though since I know nothing about cups
22:53.33KhemcyrilRomain: taken
22:53.42Khemmy suggestion is a workaround only
22:54.24cyrilRomainKhem: yep, thanks for that :)
22:59.23fun_in_oecan someone recommend where i can add task-base-bluetooth?
23:00.26flo_lapHrm something is still wrong... after reboot the flash is locked
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23:04.42cyrilRomainfun_in_oe: it is already added to the task-base image, which is probably added by the distro or image you use
23:05.14fun_in_oehanx cyrilRomain
23:05.17fun_in_oe^thanx
23:05.21fun_in_oebleh
23:06.32Khemflo_lap: what kernel version
23:06.53flo_lapKhem: 2.6.22
23:09.10Khemflo_lap: I had similar problem on omap but then it was solved
23:09.23Khemit was 2.6.22+ omap tree
23:09.56rjekHmm - I managed to get this guy who was trying to get NetSurf going on a Zaurus to give me a stack backtrace from gdb.  Apparently, regexec() is calling fnmatch(), which then calls abort()
23:10.00flo_lapErasing the flash from the bootloader unlocks it, but booting the second time it is locked again.
23:10.02rjekWhich strikes me as enormously odd.
23:11.07flo_lapKhem: okay... let me try an older kernel
23:11.38Khemflo_lap: I noticed that you are using mainstone so you might not have same problem as me
23:13.41flo_lapKhem: I wonder what actually locks the flash, I suspect that's a "feature" of the bootloader.
23:16.18Khemor even kernel
23:17.54Khemhttp://linux.omap.com/pipermail/linux-omap-open-source/2007-October/011651.html solved it for me
23:19.20flo_lapKhem: thanks! will try this with 2.6.22
23:27.05Khemflo_lap: its only for omap though might not help on other boards
23:27.16fun_in_oei'm completely stumped as to how i've been able to add bluez-utils yet not bluez-utils-compat
23:27.37fun_in_oei thought that task-base-bluetooth ought to pull it in
23:27.56fun_in_oemaybe i'm not properly adding task-base-bluetooth
23:27.58fun_in_oe?
23:27.59flo_lapKhem: well, that code looks rather generic - of course I have to do it for my flash driver.
23:30.43Khemright
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23:44.23fun_in_oeis there a way to determine which packages have been added to an image w/o flashing, booting and running ipkg list_installed? ie- from the development env?
23:45.10cyrilRomainfun_in_oe: take a look into the rootfs directory
23:45.25mwesterSpecifically, I would look in the lib/ipkg directory in the rootfs.
23:45.27RPspecifically usr/lib/ipkg/status
23:45.31fun_in_oeas well, what's the quickest/dirtiest way to force a package into an image?
23:45.37mwesterer, what RP said.  :)
23:45.38fun_in_oesweet! thanks all!
23:46.33RPipkg install -r imagedir to install an ipk if memory serves (look for the offline root option)
23:47.06mwesterOf course, if the creator of your distro/image was kind, you could something like this in your local.conf file:
23:47.12mwesterslugos_EXTRA_DEPENDS = madwifi-ng
23:47.41fun_in_oeherein lies my problem, distro creator != kind
23:48.45mwesterWell, take a look at the tasks for slugos -- if you edit yours to support that feature, it makes the "tuning" of an image easier.
23:49.18fun_in_oerp  please excuse my ignorance but, could you expand on "imagedir"?
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23:50.55fun_in_oeit still pains me as to how/where bluez-utils is getting in but, not bluez-utils-compat
23:51.36RPfun_in_oe: The directory containing the image you want to install the package to
23:55.14fun_in_oethanks. and i should run the ipkg install from the dir containing the ipk?
23:58.16fun_in_oeyeah, that doesn't work as there's no ipkg available in the dev env
23:58.17RPtry looking for ipkg-cl
23:58.38fun_in_oenope
23:58.58fun_in_oethat's an l as in love, yes?
23:59.25RPyes, there will be a copy in staging
23:59.44fun_in_oei don't have that available

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