IRC log for #oe on 20080105

00:00.22RPare you bothered about keeping the package manager files in sync?
00:00.54RPIf not, "ar -x somefile.ipk; tar -xvzf data.tgz" in the image directory...
00:01.27fun_in_oeat this point, i really just want to get the packages that are already built into the image
00:01.58fun_in_oeideally, i'd like to determine how it is that bluez-utils is being added to the image
00:02.18fun_in_oefrom there, i'd just add a line for bluez-utils-compat
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00:03.16fun_in_oeonce i could accomplish this, i'd try to figure out why task-base-bluetooth isn't pulling them both into the image
00:03.56RPfun_in_oe: Does task-base-bluetooth list them both?
00:04.27RPYou could look at that status file I mentioned earlier and see what has a bluez-utils dependency
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00:14.17fun_in_oeokay so, i should bump the "PR" of the package which depends upon bluez-utils and add a line for bluez-utils-compat?
00:14.40fun_in_oeand build the package again and then the image?
00:15.26RPThat would be one way to do what you want I guess
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00:17.53fun_in_oeBAM
00:18.07fun_in_oebluez-utils-compat in status file
00:18.13fun_in_oemany thanks RP!
00:27.34RPfun_in_oe: np
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00:29.20fun_in_oeso, if i'm making any sense of this, my guess is that task-base is not even being called
00:29.29fun_in_oethus, neither ins task-base-bluetooth
00:30.37flo_lapKhem: ok, works... I inserted some lines unlocking the flash in the mainstone flash driver.
00:31.07fun_in_oeso, while thus far it seems that i am manually adding these packages (ie-not using openembedded as it should), would it make sense to go ahead and manually add all of the packages recommended by task-base-bluetooth?
00:50.23RPfun_in_oe: It would make more sense to find out why task-base-bluetooth wasn't being included
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00:57.11flo_lapgood night
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01:07.02fun_in_oerp: amen!
01:07.28fun_in_oealas, after all the fuss to get the packages installed
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01:07.42fun_in_oethe BT dongle isn't even recognized
01:14.23likewisegood night
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01:29.51fun_in_oemany thanks to all who have helped me finally sort through the madness that some clown calls an OE environment
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10:39.53CIA-3503pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r153dd990... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): gnome-mplayer: Fix segfaults decoding non-utf8 tags in media.
10:39.58CIA-3503pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rfc095692... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
10:39.58CIA-35xcursor-watchonly-theme: Variation of xcursor-transparent-theme, leaving watch cursor alone.
10:39.58CIA-35* So there was a visual feedback to the user on long-running operations.
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10:41.40RPmorning all
10:43.58CoreDumpmorning
10:44.21Bernardohi morning
10:44.26Bernardo:)
10:44.45Bernardogood morning CoreDump, RP
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13:26.16mr_nicehi all, can some one help me with bugs no 3522 , 3594 and 3572 (scummvm does not compile) ? I have included a patch to bug 3522 which should similar solve the others as well.
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13:56.58CIA-3503coredump2 07org.oe.dev * r32cafe5c... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): openmoko-gps: Update to SVNR9
14:00.10Bernardostill stuck generating locales for the simpad... And now it can't be apparmour, as I am building under the same root as my working akita builds
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15:03.15thesinghi everybody
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16:29.09CIA-3503mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r7a3bad45... 10/ (4 files in 4 dirs): add python-gsmd, python bindings for the openmoko libgsmd
16:56.25Tartarushey all, if I have a bbclass, modeled on angstrom-mirrors.bbclass, but with PREMIRROR instead of MIRROR, is there any reason it wouldn't try the PREMIRROR first when fetching an http source?
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16:56.50CIA-35speech-dispatcher:
16:56.50CIA-35- Fix RPROVIDES so it doesn't pull in a ton of -dev packages
16:56.50CIA-35- Update EXTRA_OECONF to exclude modules we do not need and enable espeak
16:56.50CIA-35- Update configs to set espeak module as default and fix logfile destination
16:56.52CIA-35- Install initscript (this could use some work...)
16:56.54CIA-35- Tested to work on fic-gta01
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17:34.41DarthWaderdoes OE support targets with samsung s32c2510-based arm cpus?
17:39.29Tartaruswhile i don't know off-hand if there's support for a specific ref board already
17:39.34Tartarusit's just another arm board, so yes.
17:40.02DarthWaderactually, it's a router :0
17:40.18DarthWaderone of the 2mb-flash
17:42.52TartarusAh, if you can update your specific router, I don't know, sorry
17:43.01TartarusI'm used to dealing with pre-production HW :)
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19:44.26Crofton<PROTECTED>
19:44.33Croftonfrom python during image creation
19:44.39CroftonI got this in an email ...
19:44.42Croftonany thoughts?
19:45.23zeckeCrofton: -n for what script :)
19:48.45flo_lapre
19:49.09Croftonconsole-image.bb?
19:49.30zeckeCrofton: that is not a script, but that is elitist?
19:49.33CroftonI'm looking at messages that were emailed to me by a guy trying to build an image for the omap2430sdp ...
19:50.12CroftonI am going to pastebin the while thing
19:50.23CroftonI was hoping it was an "obvious problem"
19:50.40Croftonhttp://www.pastebin.org/14142
19:50.41zeckeCrofton: did he mail you the full script that is executed to build the image?
19:50.50Croftonno, just a messgae
19:51.03zeckeimage.bbclass:99:                       ${PYTHON} `which bbimage` -n "${IMAGE_NAME}" -t "$type" -e "${FILE}"
19:51.52zeckeCrofton: there are three -n in the image.bbclass. ask him to send you the script that bitbake is executed. run.do_rootfs or such
19:52.13CroftonI hope he shows up here :)
19:53.35Croftonlooks like do_rootfs failed
19:53.35CroftonI gotta run bbl
20:04.09XorA|gone~lart feature creep
20:04.09ibotputs on a hockey mask and jumps out at feature creep
20:18.29Tartarushey all, if I have a bbclass, modeled on angstrom-mirrors.bbclass, but with PREMIRROR instead of MIRROR, is there any reason it wouldn't try the PREMIRROR first when fetching an http source?
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20:21.20cyrilRomainTartarus: looking at the code I see no reason for bitbake not to try PREMIRRORS first
20:22.30cyrilRomainTartarus: unless a package explicitely set PREMIRRORS="" (like p4)
20:22.34TartaruscyrilRomain, I don't know why either, but zlib{,-native} and fakeroot-native both go upstream / debian mirror 1st
20:24.18Tartarusand I can see on my local mirror they exist
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20:25.08_diego_hi
20:25.16sschi
20:25.45_diego_how can i pass -pipe to gcc when building OE?
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20:27.37sschi crofton - Just checked my python version - It's 2.5.1
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20:30.52sschi crofton - Just checked my python version - It's 2.5.1
20:33.57DarthWaderso does anyone know if there's something linux-ish available for samsung s3c2510-based devices?
20:35.04sscCan any body see this - I'm a bit in doubt if I'm logged in currectly
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20:37.31CoreDump|bblssc: you are connected just fine
20:38.07sscgreat - thanks
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20:54.28summatusmentisssc: you need to use /quit and /join
20:59.30Croftonheh
20:59.40Croftonssc was the guy with the python error
21:00.09ssc_Hi - I managed to connect finally - Right :-)
21:00.19Croftonhey
21:00.33CroftonI don't understand your error
21:01.03Croftonyou should send and email to the omap list about the kernel compile issue
21:01.16Croftonmaybe someone broke it for that board by accident ...
21:01.22ssc_I'm not sure I under stand it either :-), but to make a long story short. I get the the 4th last step (or so), which is do_rootfs and this one fails
21:01.38Croftoncan you pastebin the error message
21:01.42Crofton~pastebin
21:01.43ibot[~pastebin] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste
21:01.56CroftonI don't understand it, but someone else might
21:02.03ssc_I will give it a try - Give me 5 min
21:06.40ssc_hereby please find a link to the last part of the error log I get http://rafb.net/p/nZb22P38.html
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21:09.07Croftonzecke_, can you look at http://rafb.net/p/nZb22P38.html
21:10.31ssc_I just double checked my python version, and 2.5.1 is the latest released one unless you want to play with 3.0a2, which is still experimental
21:10.38Croftonthat should be fine
21:11.01Croftonyou are running bitbake minimal-image?
21:11.37ssc_In general, if you have a look at line 21 in the log, I think it doesn't look like a python comand line at all
21:11.57Croftonwhat is DISTRO set to?
21:11.58ssc_I get the same behaviour for both minimal/base/helloworld etc
21:12.18cyrilRomain-n is an option for bbimage, not for python
21:12.37cyrilRomainmaybe `which bbimage` is badly interpolated
21:12.51ssc_DISTRO is set to angstrom-2008.1 - I this to new?
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21:13.45cyrilRomainssc_: what is your BBPATH set to ?
21:14.14ssc_is -n for bbimage? Then I guess why I don't understand much of the log - Might be it should be interpret completely different than what I expect?
21:14.55Croftonssc_, this works for a lot of people, we are trying to figure out what is unique about your setup
21:15.17ssc_BBPATH=/home/ssc/stuff/build:/home/ssc/stuff/org.openembedded.dev
21:15.35cyrilRomainyou should have "/usr/bin/python /home/ssc/stuff/bitbake/bbimage -n Angstrom-minimalist-image-glibc-ipk-2008.1-test-20080105-omap2430sdp -t jffs2 -e /home/ssc/stuff/org.openembedded.dev/packages/images/minimal-image.bb"
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21:15.58Croftonhmm
21:16.04likewisehi!
21:16.05Croftonwhat is your path?
21:16.09cyrilRomainssc_: check bbimage is in your PATH (it should be with bitbake)
21:16.12Croftonmaybe bbimage is not in your path?
21:16.34Croftonrun which bbimage from the command line
21:16.40ssc_my path to all the stuff is /home/ssc/stuff
21:16.48Croftonhttp://rafb.net/p/nZb22P38.html
21:16.50Croftonurg
21:16.53Crofton[balister@localhost linux-davinci-2.6]$ which bbimage
21:16.54Crofton~/oe/bitbake/bin/bbimage
21:16.58Croftonis what I get
21:17.24Croftontry "which bbimage" on the command line
21:17.27ssc_I know, but that was the place I started - and I haven't yet moved it, althoug my /home is running out of space - Only 20 GB left :-)
21:18.29ssc_OK - I guess this is the problem then. I don't get anything on "which bbimage" - Hold on - I will add bitbake to my path straight away
21:18.50Croftonyeah
21:19.05Croftonwe should add a check for that I suppose
21:19.10cyrilRomainssc_: that's it
21:19.29cyrilRomainCrofton: no need for a check since bitbake and bbimage _has_ to be in the PATH
21:21.01Croftonbut if you run bitbake with a path, it does fail until it looks for bbimage
21:21.07ssc_OK - But then I better put it there - I will have a result in a few sec
21:21.14cyrilRomainCrofton: I mean it is one of the first thing new comers learns when reading GettingStarted page, setting up the environement :)
21:21.30Croftonyeah, but we can also fail gracefully :)
21:21.52ssc_Might be, but I have now done this 5 times on different linux installs, and apperent I have missed a step this time - Sorry :-)
21:22.41cyrilRomainCrofton: yes, but I'm afraid the code would be bloated and could not manage _all_ the possible environement cases: bitbake in path but not bbimage, etc..
21:23.00cyrilRomainCrofton: I understand your concern though
21:23.49ssc_One other soultion could be to create a small script to check, that all tools are at right places, which could be run only for verifiucation of the setup
21:24.14cyrilRomainssc_: why not
21:24.56cyrilRomainssc_: but if you are ready to start a script each time you are going to work, why not running a script that set the PATH and BBPATH instead ? ;)
21:25.38Croftonor make sure which bbimage actually return a non-null string :)
21:25.45ssc_No problem - My main point is just to help new comers like me to easily figure out what they are missing
21:26.19cyrilRomainssc_: but feel free to write such a script and add it to the GettingStarted page :)
21:26.25cyrilRomainif it can help ..
21:26.26ssc_I I guess it's really of no concern, when one is up running :-)
21:26.31Croftonssc_, do you have a omap2430sdp to test on?
21:26.34Croftonssc_, yeah
21:26.51CroftonOE is great, butting getting going can be a bit shaky ...
21:27.03ssc_Not at home, but I have one board at work. Not really a 2430 sdp, but a board much similar
21:27.41CroftonI've got a board based on a davinci processor here
21:27.48Croftonneed to do some work on it
21:28.16CroftonI just finished a MS degree and reorganized my workspace at home
21:28.25Croftonso I am way behind on fun things
21:28.49ssc_As you can see at my linked in profile, I currently work for TI - Please let me know in case you miss any info - Then I can see what I can do
21:33.59Croftoncool
21:34.19CroftonI have one of the Lyrtech small form factor SDR boards
21:34.41ssc_which I don't know :-)
21:34.50CroftonI've built some images for the DV EVM, but I can't test them, although I've heard they can boot :)
21:35.11ssc_Why can you then test them?
21:35.34ssc_Aha - Now I get your point
21:35.53ssc_The Lyrtech card is with the davinci chip, and therefore not the DV EVM
21:36.31ssc_what do you miss in order to test the image on your board?
21:37.12CroftonI can run Angstrom on the SFFSDR board, only NFS root atm
21:37.20ssc_cyrilRomain and Ctofton: BINGO - Just build my first rootfs :-) Thanks for your help
21:37.30Croftonbecause no nand falsh driver in git, although that is about to change
21:37.35Croftongreat!
21:37.43Croftonhttp://www.lyrtech.com/DSP-development/dsp_fpga/sffsdrdevelopmentplatform.php
21:37.46cyrilRomainssc_: :)
21:38.12ssc_who is doing the NAND flash in git? I guess I could be to great help here as well, since one of my main focuses in daily lift is flashing :-)
21:38.36CroftonDirk Behme posted a patch based on someone elses work
21:38.53CroftonI really wish they would merge the git repos for DV and OMAP ...
21:39.01likewisessc_: In general, TI needs to open up its Linux open source development.
21:39.19Crofton:)
21:39.25likewiseI guess they have a contract with MontaVista not to release stuff early.
21:39.31ssc_I totally agree, but TI is a huge organisation with many interests in many places
21:39.42Croftonyeah
21:39.54likewisessc_: I know. But at least we are not buying the DaVinci's because of proper Linux support from TI.
21:39.56CroftonI talk to a lot of TI guys who wish they would open up :)
21:40.07ssc_Dirk Behme - He is one of the TI FEAs as far as I remember?
21:40.20ssc_FEA = FAE
21:40.22Croftonnot sure who he works for
21:40.35CroftonI do not think he works for TI
21:40.37ssc_FAE = Field application Engineer
21:40.59ssc_I think he used to - At lease the name is sounding known to me
21:41.27Croftoncould be, he posts from a gmail account, but I am thinking I have seen posts from a bosch account
21:42.24CroftonKhem, did a lot of the omap2430sdp work also
21:42.46ssc_I just checked, and I can only find some bosch references - Might be I mix him up with somebody else
21:42.51CroftonI get mixed up because I have an OSK
21:43.13ssc_an OSK?
21:43.39CroftonOMAP Starter Kit
21:43.47CroftonOMAP5912 based
21:44.31ssc_OK - But why does this mix you up with anybody? DO people think you work for TI?
21:45.04Croftonno
21:45.25Croftonbut People ask me questions about hw I do not have :)
21:45.45ssc_OK - Now I understand :-)
21:45.57Croftonit has the word OMAP in it :)
21:46.19Croftonand the really smart guys relate omap to davinci
21:47.08ssc_They are as well more or less similar seen from a SW point of view :)
21:47.46Croftonyeah
21:47.53Croftonespecially on the ARM side
21:48.22ssc_I just had a look at the link you posted for the SFFSDR - Pretty though board - My I ask for the price?
21:48.39CroftonI think it is like 10K usd
21:49.05ssc_Yeps the ARM side is pretty similar, but I think the DPS side as well isn't that different, although it's pretty hard to find some open TI DSP source
21:49.07mwester-laptopa bargain! ;)
21:49.15Croftonhhe
21:49.32Croftonthey claim that is close to what it costs them and cad versus usd is hurting them atm
21:50.00CroftonI like them because I basically got one free, and Louis bought us dinner and beer :)
21:50.22ssc_How did on manage to do that? By adding support for them in OE?
21:50.52CroftonSDR Forum radio challenge contest
21:51.21Croftonthey haven't asked for it back yet :) I need to spend some time improving Linux support
21:51.28ssc_OK - Meaning you deserved it somehow - Great job :-)
21:51.39Croftonhopefully, I get Linux on it and get their customers to give me moeny for appliactions :)
21:52.27Croftonthey mainly work with green hills, but they get asked about Linux occasionally
21:52.57Croftonmy queue of things to do is pretty long, and people waving money get to the head though
21:53.09Croftonand at the moment, that is some other guys
21:53.50ssc_A what - I'm unfortunately not sure I 100% follow you
21:55.45CroftonI have to do some paying work :)
21:56.48ssc_OK - After all: money is a big thing, although it's normally not very compatible with kernel hacking :-)
21:57.07Croftonheh
21:57.24Croftonwell, we need to be careful about giving away to much work
21:57.26ssc_Thanks for your help - Please don't hesitate to let me know in case you need any kind of favors from me, then I will see what I can do
21:57.28likewisessc_: well, look at the top kernel hackers - they get paid for it - mostly.
21:57.52ssc_OK - Like top Golf players :-)
21:57.59CroftonI work on the SFFSDR in hopes of getting pait to build on what I have done so far
21:58.06Croftonand it is a neat board for SDR
21:58.17ssc_we other guys have to pay for it and spend our limited spare time :-)
21:59.37ssc_the above was a continuation of my previous sentence and not a comment you your last sentence :-)
22:00.39ssc_I case I can do some work for OE, when I get a bit more used to it, please let me know
22:01.28ssc_one last question for now - I earlier today tried to build ffmpeg, which is located in OE as two different bb files
22:02.01ssc_one for v 0.4.9-pre1 and one for svn - It seems to me that I always try top build the old 0.4.9, which currently can build
22:02.06Croftonhang on, my wife just came home ,...
22:02.14ssc_How to I tell OE to build the svn version instead?
22:04.28cyrilRomainssc_: use PREFERRED_VERSION_ffmpeg = "svn"
22:05.23Croftonin local.conf
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22:05.54ssc_Great - Thanks
22:06.51Croftonlook in conf/distro/include for the srvrev files
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22:08.45ssc_I will do - Thanks
22:09.47Croftonok, I need to build a kernel for the sffsdr board with the nand patch and seee what happpnes
22:10.39ssc_I wish you great luck - In case of any nand problems you might have in the future - Please don't hesitate to ask
22:10.49ssc_CU
22:12.28likewisemy qemu-native complains about me having gcc4, not gcc3. This has never been a problem for me. (for x86 target).
22:13.18ssc_I'm seeing the same - What platform are you building for?
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23:42.36CIA-35gnome-mplayer: Add a decent, clean GTK+ frontend for MPlayer.
23:42.36CIA-35* This one is targetted at simple, clean, yet functional UI and
23:42.37CIA-35low deps (recently deps to libgnomeui and crap was removed). Obviously,
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