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00:43.53CIA-3503mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rd2ee9465... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): add settingsgui, python-based UI for misc. settings
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04:00.31drmikecroweHey folks, a n00b question: I have OE compiling, and would now like to create a custom app.  Do I have to create the package in stuff/org.openembedded.dev/packages/XXXX, or is there another way to take my source and use the cross-compiler?
04:01.58Croftonum the answer is yes
04:02.12Croftonwhat is the custom app?
04:02.38drmikecrowehey Crofton, it's Ross' sdl app.  I wanted to try and compile it with OE and see if it would run
04:03.11Croftonwe understand the need to support creation of easy external toolchians
04:03.12drmikecroweI didn't know if I had to "package" it in OE to try it, or if I could use the cross-compiler that has been built
04:03.24Croftonbut I am not certain how we support that yet
04:03.42Croftonyou can set the path to use the cross compilers
04:04.02Croftondoes the app use autotools?
04:04.08drmikecroweThat's what I need.  I was trying to see if that setup was easy
04:04.34CroftonI'm not sure, yet
04:04.36drmikecroweNo, right now, it's 1 file.  I need to understand how to start using OE to develop single apps
04:04.40CroftonI need to work this out also
04:04.55Croftonlong term, you need to add bb file
04:05.04Croftonand provide feeds for users
04:05.28Croftonif you go for full angstrom support, that will happen "magically"
04:05.31drmikecroweagreed.  But, now i just have a single C file I need to compile.  Wanted to use the OE compiler
04:05.41Croftonalthough we understand some vendors prefer more control\
04:05.52Croftonlook in tmp/staging/....
04:05.55drmikecroweFor our project, I'd like to focus on angstrom support.
04:06.12Croftonset the path so you pick up the cross compiler
04:06.14drmikecroweI see them, just wasn't sure about include variables, lib variables, etc.
04:06.38drmikecroweI was hoping somebody has a magic script which pre-configured my environment
04:06.42drmikecrowe:D
04:07.33Croftonhmm, I can't work out the path right away
04:07.49Croftonask again tomorrow, I need to sleep :)
04:08.24drmikecroweNight!
04:09.06drmikecrowehey, cool -- it's in tmp/work.  can snag out of the temp directories
04:10.03Croftonyeah
04:10.25Croftonwe just need a formal way to distribute the toolchain+ libs to people
04:12.19drmikecroweCan't we post the local.conf appropriate to this system and let them build their own?
04:13.22CroftonI'm hoping we can distribute a set of stuff that requires no OE stuff :)
04:14.20drmikecroweah, cool.  I'll work with you through that
04:14.32Croftongn
04:15.13drmikecrowenight
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06:20.52Laibschgood morning everyone!
06:20.52Laibschdrmikecrowe: are you making progress?
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06:47.59_law_morning
06:48.16_law_is there any midp2 engine in OE ?
07:01.47Laibsch_law_: I think that rschuster committed something like that a few days ago
07:02.10LaibschI think it was called midpath
07:02.21Laibschdoes that help?
07:03.17_law_Laibsch, ok looks nice i'll try this
07:03.22_law_Laibsch, thanks
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08:54.30nik0nmorning. anyone got an idea for bug number 3696
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09:01.47rob_w|laptopzecke|away,  where was that switch i can have in a bb file to not checkc architectures at do_package ?
09:08.04cdbot2* * OE Bug 3701 has been created by <OE-Autobuilder>
09:08.06cdbot2* * driftnet-0.1.6-r0-do_compile
09:08.08cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3701
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09:57.39_saurabh_does the external toolchain used in oe have to be built using the oe infrastructure only
09:57.51_saurabh_or can i use e.g. a crosstool generated toolchain too
09:58.16_saurabh_if i try to use a pre-built toolchain, do_staging of external toolchain fails
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10:06.16hrwmorning
10:07.00Laibsch~seen nicolasfr
10:07.02ibotnicolasfr <n=manager@vau75-6-82-230-164-247.fbx.proxad.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 400d 14h 27m 42s ago, saying: 'Laibsch: I did use _append without the +'.
10:07.16Laibschquite some time ago
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10:59.19lumaghi!
10:59.55hrwi Dmitry
11:00.01hrws/^i/hi
11:03.44DrOctaviusanyone using oe for s3c2440 processor?
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11:08.14lumaghrw: I tried debugging 2.6.23 tosa kernel for stable. It seems that the kernel has so largely evolved since 2.6.17 that even with old wm97xx and company patches I have sus/res problems.
11:08.32hrwDrOctavius: openmoko guys do
11:08.42hrwlumag: ;(
11:10.05lumaghrw: I would try dropping most crap from tosa_power in hope it would help by the cost of in-suspend charging, but it would need some more time.
11:10.11DrOctaviusthnx hw
11:10.24broonielumag: The current wm97xx patches should be good against current kernels.
11:12.59lumagbroonie: yes, I know. I use them in my development patchset. But tosa_power patch does really strange things to that chip. In short, somebody has written a driver for wm97xx embedded into battery driver.
11:14.34broonielumag: Ah, OK. Fun fun fun. There is a battery monitor provided by wm97xx-core already, hanging off the toaster bus provided for the chip.
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11:15.21broonieSo if it does need to do that then it *should* be possible to arrange for it to play with the touch driver by hanging off that bus.
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11:16.21lumagbroonie: you mean aux_adc? yup. tosa_power uses it during normal work. And during sus/resume tosa_power drives the ac97 by itself.
11:17.23XorAbroonie: if I recall the discussion from years ago right, battery monitor is needed at boot, but most of wm97xx driver is too big to fit into zaurus kernel
11:17.29XorAbroonie: so some hacks were done
11:17.49broonieAh, right. This is one of those devices with a microscopic space for the kernel binary?
11:17.56XorAbroonie: yeah
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11:18.14XorAbroonie: so there were problems with waiting until modules could be loaded
11:18.38broonielumag: Yes, that was what I was thinking of.
11:18.41XorAI dont have exact details, I just remeber lrg and do13 speaking a lot on this issue
11:18.47lumagXorA: actually wm97xx was built in kernel since long ago.
11:19.15XorAlumag: do13 must have jiggled about some other stuff then
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11:23.02lumagHowever in the time he developed that patches, there were no such things like e.g. class_power_supply.
11:23.33lumagAnd tosa isn't too nice to developers.
11:26.09XorAlumag: I dont think do13 was ever happy with that code either
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12:11.31rob_w|laptopcan i disable DO PACKAGE QA  on a single package ?
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12:18.05cdbot2* * OE Bug 3702 has been created by <OE-Autobuilder>
12:18.07cdbot2* * rdesktop-1.5.0-r0-do_compile
12:18.09cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3702
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12:34.05cdbot2* * OE Bug 3703 has been created by <OE-Autobuilder>
12:34.07cdbot2* * libwnck-2.13.5-r0-do_install
12:34.09cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3703
12:43.49drmikecroweLaibsch: Still working on it
12:47.26Croftondo you sleep drmikecrowe
12:47.42drmikecroweCrofton: hehe, not much.  I crashed shortly after you
12:48.28CIA-3503xora 07org.oe.dev * r94d867a4... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-openmoko-devel_2.6.23+2.6.24-rc7.bb):
12:48.28CIA-35linux-openmoko-devel_2.6.23+2.6.24-rc7.bb : add the latest openmoko
12:48.28CIA-35devel kernel. This fetches its defconfig from OM SVN as well as the
12:48.28CIA-35patches so should generate exactly what we use internally
12:48.33CIA-3503xora 07org.oe.dev * r40248398... 10/ (1 conf/distro/openmoko.conf): openmoko.conf : add linux-openmoko-devel to MACHINE_CLASS handling
12:55.27drmikecrowehey folks, if I'm building a system from the ground up, and just have a frame-buffer device, what graphics options do I have?  It appears that most packages want to pull in X, but I'm not sure I understand
13:05.46Croftondrmikecrowe, there may be a directfb based image also
13:06.15johnxdrmikecrowe, also, there is an x server that can run on a plain framebuffer
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13:06.39johnxalso, opie will run on a framebuffer
13:06.43drmikecrowejohn -- that would be awesome.  How can I read up on that?
13:07.13drmikecrowefor instance, I need to configure my machine to support this, I think.  Maybe an example machine that uses this?
13:08.28johnxthe zaurus Cxx00 (akita/spitz/borzoi) and many other handhelds use a xfbdev
13:08.53johnxyour need to build the package and tell it what resolution and color depth to run the x server at
13:08.59johnxit also has an option for rotation
13:09.24johnxunfortunately I don't think I can reach my copy of OE right now to check what the package name is exactly right now
13:09.32johnxI think it's xfbdev
13:10.39drmikecrowejohnx: perfect!  thanks
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13:49.31lumagbye, all!
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14:15.31CIA-3503koen 07org.oe.dev * rcbf0b022... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2008.1.conf): angstrom 2008: include toolchain versions for weird platforms like powerpc
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14:38.46CIA-3503koen 07org.oe.dev * r71a14b84... 10/ (1 classes/module-base.bbclass classes/module.bbclass):
14:38.46CIA-35module*.bbclass: set AR to KERNEL_AR during building of kernel modules
14:38.46CIA-35* revision 3422 from poky
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14:56.05cdbot2* * OE Bug 3704 has been created by <OE-Autobuilder>
14:56.07cdbot2* * imlib2-1.4.0.002-r2-do_unpack
14:56.08cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3704
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15:00.03ant|workhrw: hello
15:00.24ant|workhrw: how's about 2.6.24 ?
15:01.06ant|workhrw: size problems solved?
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15:02.45CIA-3503john_lee 07org.oe.dev * r8996304d... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-openmoko-feed.bb): remove epdf for now because it refers to nonexist ewl_tree2_new
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15:06.57chouimat|workmorning
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15:08.57hrwits worse
15:09.18ant|workhrw: hi
15:09.23chouimat|workhi hrw
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15:10.34ant|workhrw: I know the solution....
15:10.45ant|workhrw: but I know you don't like it...
15:10.50ant|workhrw: http://forum.zaurusfr.org/viewtopic.php?t=595&highlight=&sid=277cd880c9fd4ac4fd20608023f7f9f4
15:11.01ant|workFilesystem           1k-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
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15:11.52ant|work*ant pasted wrong line
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15:17.24ant|workhrw: http://www.pastebin.org/15501
15:17.34ant|workhrw: this was what I meant
15:19.41rschustercan OE understand ORed dependencies? e.g. DEPENDS = "foo (bar | baz)"? if so what is the syntax for that?
15:20.06zeckerschuster: i don't think so :)
15:21.50ant|workhrw: RP: I'm asking also about http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9217
15:22.05ant|workmwester: you too...
15:22.13XorArschuster: you get the same by using PROVIDES and PREFERRED_PROVIDER
15:22.54LaibschBut there iis no equivalent for RDEPENDS, right?
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15:26.05ggilbertApparently we're losing our hosting shortly.
15:26.18ggilbertSo it's probably going to take a few days to sort out a replacement.
15:26.26XorALaibsch: you can RPROVIDES
15:26.43XorALaibsch: then its upto you to install the one you want
15:26.54hrwant|work: to make it short: we (Zaurus kernel maintainers/Zaurus machine maintainers) do not support other bootloaders then Sharp crap or kexec (with recent OE 2.6.23 + recent OE kexec)
15:27.13hrwant|work: U-boot is not supported in any way now
15:27.16ant|workhrw: 2.6.23 = no altboot
15:27.23ant|workhrw: atm
15:27.54ant|workhrw: why get you so hostile yalking about u-boot ? Taboo ?
15:28.05hrwaltboot is not bootloader
15:28.55ant|workhrw: I make it simple for you: no root on sd
15:28.55hrwant|work: its not taboo
15:28.55XorAfrom the end post in that bug, u-boot and kexec should both work with same features
15:28.55hrwant|work: root on sd is easy to get even sharp crap - kernel cmdline need changing
15:29.14ant|workhrw: on c7x0 we are doomed...sons of lesser god
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15:29.30hrwXorA: probably. but zaurus clamshells has only quite old uboot ;(
15:29.35hrwhi Rodrigo
15:29.45hrwant|work: I know - I have c760
15:30.03ant|workhrw: I promised you a nu battery if you helps....
15:30.19ant|works/help/help us/s....
15:30.31hrwant|work: and I remember that. its just chronical lack of time
15:30.38ant|workhe he
15:31.03ant|workhrw: I'm almost done - CoreDump is heling me
15:31.06hrwI have few important projects which give me money and my daughter will born any day
15:31.15ant|workhrw: but we'll ned some hints probably
15:31.47ggilbertSorry for the short notice, I just literally woke up and found out that I'll need to pick up the hardware today
15:31.49hrwant|work: I am not familiar with ATAGs
15:32.05hrwggilbert: hello
15:32.06ant|workhrw: be carefull...my young Marek (5 months) will be often in Poland...
15:32.18hrwant|work: ;D
15:32.40ant|workhrw: italian-polish blood :-)
15:33.12LaibschXorA: Do you have an example?  I wonder how RPROVIDES works in practice.  Can you install more than on providee?  What happens if there is no package yet to satisfy the RDEPENDS, what does ipkg do, just pick one?
15:33.33ant|workhrw: get you work finished and forgive me if I'll have to disturb you again in the near future
15:33.46XorALaibsch: gtk+, gtk+-fastscaling
15:33.46ant|workhrw: thx
15:33.52XorALaibsch: they can be swapped at will
15:34.26LaibschXorA: Thanks, I'll take a look
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15:37.10hrwant|work: I have to spend some time one day and get small kernel for c7x0
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16:30.20tmann102anyone here?
16:30.26tmann102i need  help with opie
16:30.28chouimat|workno
16:30.34tmann102lol
16:30.48tmann102is the angstrom opie page working with anyone?
16:31.58tmann102nvm
16:32.16tmann102can i flash a h3900 image on an h3800?
16:32.21tmann102or would that be bad
16:32.58tmann102http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/autobuild/h3900/
16:33.10tmann102that's the page for h3900 opie/gpe/x11
16:33.12tmann102stuffs
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16:36.56hrwtmbinc_: h3800 is totally other then h3900
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17:02.01hrwbye
17:04.55ggilbertok, the server should be here this afternoon.
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17:26.58zeckemickeyl: why is your cmake inheriting autotools and not depending on cmake-native?
17:27.39mickeyl1st) afaik make and make install still work the same
17:27.46mickeyl2st) i forgot that
17:29.40zeckemickeyl: ah 1st) explains it, maybe we want to split that from autotools.bbclass
17:30.37mickeylzecke: might make sense, yes.
17:31.03mickeylsame goes for do_stage
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17:31.23zeckemickeyl: so everyone honoring DESTDIR can play with it
17:31.31mickeylyep
17:32.06ggilbertHey mickeyl, someone mentioned that  you had some hosting options potentially opening up for OE
17:32.20mickeylreally?
17:32.24mickeylnews spread fast
17:32.26ggilberthehe
17:32.37mickeyli ordered a quad core server
17:32.40mickeylquite a beast
17:32.50mickeylon my cost
17:33.02ggilbertnice.
17:33.04mickeylhosting will be provided by another grateful donor
17:33.14mickeyli will create a couple of openvz instances there
17:33.22mickeyland first create another mtn mirror
17:33.25mickeyl(main mirror)
17:33.33mickeylthen eventually free some more services from ltg
17:33.39mickeylso that they can breath better
17:33.48hvontres|workmickeyl: qte question: ist there a way to have a .bb file re-compile the ui files?
17:33.52ggilbertIt came up because the place that's been generously providing us with network and power has to stop doing that
17:34.04ggilbertOn extremely short notice
17:34.08mickeylhvontres|work: usually a sane .pro file does this automatically
17:34.19hvontres|workmickeyl: thanks
17:34.39mickeylhvontres|work: if you want to make sure that they get regenerated, then remove them in do_compile_prepend
17:34.49mickeylggilbert: i see, so we need a new location for the bug tracker
17:34.57mickeylggilbert: can you send me a full sql dump?
17:35.10ggilbertsure. I have one right here
17:35.13mickeylthanks.
17:35.20mickeylplease dump it to mlauer@vanille-media.de
17:35.26ggilbertI might be able to do it further once I find a new provider
17:35.35mickeylno worries
17:35.39mickeyli think the new machine can handle that
17:35.41mickeylhowever
17:35.46mickeylit will take a while until its there
17:35.48mickeyland setup
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17:35.57mickeyli guess something between 1 and 4 weeks
17:35.59ggilbertI was going to see if I could set something up at home this evening
17:36.22ggilbertI hate the short notice, but I literally just heard about it when my boss let me know that he'd be picking up the servers this morning.
17:36.31mickeylno problem
17:36.43mickeylthanks for doing it all the time when you where not really involved with OE machines
17:37.06ggilbertI'm glad to have been able to help. One day I hope to have an OE powered device again :)
17:37.12mickeylhehe, hopefully :)Ö
17:37.14mickeyls/Ö//
17:37.34mickeylthe sql dump should be self-contained right ? or do i need more data to clone the bug trackerß
17:37.46ggilbertWestmont's hosting has also been extremely generous for the past few years, so I really can't say much bad about them.
17:37.59ggilberthmmm. There's uploaded files. Not sure if they were in the db
17:38.12ggilbertI have a full tarball of everything
17:38.34mickeylok
17:38.55mickeylwhen can we expect the bugtracker to go offline?
17:39.04ggilbertAbout an hour ago
17:39.08mickeylaah
17:39.09mickeylhehe
17:39.12mickeylokay
17:39.23ggilbertYeah. Welcome to my morning :)
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17:39.28mickeyli can imagine
17:39.38mickeyli will try to reinstantiate it during this night
17:39.43mickeyljust dump me everything you have
17:39.45mickeylthanks!!!
17:46.16ant|workbbl
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17:51.16RPmickey|sports: If we need to setup a temp server, I might also be able to help...
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18:58.11zeckeokay, I have to look into the fortran issue now
19:00.17ant_zecke: FWIW during compilation of gcc-native I've seen libmpfr has been built
19:00.49ant_zecke: building gcc-3 doesn't build "gfortran"
19:01.57zeckeant_: I know, fortran was enabled for arm for gcc 4.2
19:02.12ant_zecke: interesting bit: on Gentoo wit gcc-4.2.1 the fortran is compiled (use flags)
19:02.35ant_zecke: and I built gcc-4.2.2 w/o problems
19:03.09ant_zecke: on other host (Arklinux) I installed by brute force gcc3 over the gcc-4.1
19:03.50ant_zecke: but finally I had to install the fortran extension (for 4.1)!
19:03.52GNUtoopsplash still fails: http://pastebin.com/m1ccfb7d7  and http://pastebin.com/m1b0e47e4
19:04.00ant_zecke: what for an hybrid....
19:04.42ant_zecke: being that initially this gcc-native was not found in path (bug) I'm just wondering if the same can happen with libmpfr
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19:13.58GNUtooanyone for my psplash issue...that blocks the build of opie-image
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19:25.36pb__hi zecke
19:25.55GNUtoo:( anyone?
19:26.15GNUtoobecause i don't know well the psplash package...
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20:13.45zeckeGNUtoo: well, I attempt to fix the fortran issue so I can't build pslash_svn now, but there is nothing that prevents you to go into the psplash directory to take a look
20:14.19GNUtoozecke, ok there is no makefile or things for automake in this dir
20:14.31zeckeGNUtoo: which dir?
20:14.47GNUtoozecke, /oe/tmp/work/psplash-0.0+svnr1-r12
20:15.33zeckeGNUtoo: I remember that you have changed the psplash_svn.bb yesterday, did you undo everything?
20:15.40GNUtoozecke, yes
20:15.56GNUtoozecke, i did it with mtn
20:16.16zeckeGNUtoo: bitbake -cclean psplash
20:16.45zeckeGNUtoo: and then bitbake psplash and then we can talk
20:17.01GNUtoozecke, ok thanks a lot
20:19.05GNUtoozecke, http://pastebin.com/m53b66362
20:21.37zeckels /oe/tmp/work/psplash-0.0+svnr1-r12 say what?
20:21.53zeckelol
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20:21.59zeckeGNUtoo: what distro do you use?
20:22.02lumaghi all!
20:22.05GNUtoozecke, gentoo
20:22.22zeckeGNUtoo: no, in your conf/local.conf, freepma? does it exits? do you create it?
20:22.43GNUtoozecke, http://pastebin.com/m1e64646b no i created it i'll pastebin it
20:22.59zeckeGNUtoo: before you go into branding, why don't you use something that works (e.g angstrom-2007.1) from the stable branch?
20:23.47zecke/oe/sources/psplash_svn.o-hand.com_.repos.misc.trunk_1_.tar.gz this file says it is loading the FIRST revision of psplash, this is because your OWN distro does not set a sane srcrev ;)
20:24.02zeckethis does NOT happen with the angstrom distro inside OE ;)
20:24.33GNUtooah ok lol
20:24.34zeckeGNUtoo: a rule of thumb, if you are not yet a master, stay on the walked path
20:25.21zeckeGNUtoo: e.g. is angstrom using this file http://repo.or.cz/w/org.openembedded.dev.git?a=blob;f=conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc;h=fb369a8ea302bce5285fa04b60942b74031d85b0;hb=HEAD
20:25.36zeckeGNUtoo: but you should use angstrom :)
20:25.38GNUtoozecke, i know that i'm not yet a master but i want to remplace an old system(glibc qtopiq...) by a newer one
20:25.39GNUtoook
20:27.51zeckeGNUtoo: I'm willing to answer questions both ways (easy and master level), but I think it is more easy to start with the easy one :)
20:28.02GNUtoozecke, ok i'll try
20:28.13GNUtoozecke, thanks a lot
20:28.40hvontres|workGNUtoo: plus you might find that Angsrom does what you want anyways :)
20:31.08GNUtooby the way i have  a question...i tried an opie-image from a long time ago: Feb-2006 and it consumed a lot of memory...a lot more than qtopia...has it changed?
20:31.25GNUtooimage for my device...not the opie-image
20:31.30zeckeCrofton: do you remember the fortran workaround you used? did it involve LD_LIBRARY_PATH?
20:31.47zeckeGNUtoo: don't ask it here :)
20:32.06GNUtooto opie's channel?
20:32.22zeckeGNUtoo: I once said Opie is dead but was proven wrong :)
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20:39.35zeckeAnyone remembers the name of the site that is mirroring mailinglists?
20:41.02ggilbertmarc?
20:41.26ggilbertalso, I will likely be purchasing hosting today, so I should be able to get us online again as soon as any processing time goes through
20:41.52zeckepb__: master?
20:42.06zeckeggilbert: I think not, the site that allows you to post as well (and not nabble.com)
20:42.21ggilberthmm
20:42.30ggilbertthere's another one also
20:43.56zeckegmane
20:43.58zeckedamn
20:44.07ggilbertYeah, that's what I was thinking
20:45.24zeckeand the list is not mirrored
20:52.04GNUtooconf/distro/angstrom-2007.1-legacy.conf only have this line: require conf/distro/angstrom-2008.1.conf so how can it use a 2.4 kernel?
20:53.04zeckeGNUtoo: leacy in terms of not using EABI
20:53.44zeckeGNUtoo: I think what you should do, is build OE one time through (to have the feeling of success)
20:53.57GNUtoolol..ok
20:54.18zeckeGNUtoo: this also gives me the time to clean something up in the legacy handling ;)
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21:28.56Croftonzecke, yes
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21:34.01hvontres|workCrofton: Do you think you might have room for an extra PDA in your luggage on the way back from Fosdem?
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21:35.00Croftonmost likely
21:35.04Croftonfrom EU to US?
21:35.27florianre
21:35.49Croftonalso, if anyone wants stuff from US, I can bring it to FOSDEM
21:36.08Croftonwithin reason :)
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21:37.56hvontres|workCrofton: yes. XorA was going to send me one of the the OE poodles during his t trip to florida, but that seems to have been canceled. So I thought I'd have him give it to you and we can arrange for a way to get it out here to the left coast :)
21:38.09Croftonok
21:38.22CroftonThat should be much easier the dealing with customs
21:38.39hvontres|workCrofton: Thanks. I'll drop him a note later.
21:39.19Croftontoo bad about his FL trip :(
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21:44.30ggilbertOk, i should have a new ip for bugs.openembedded.org in a day or two.
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22:27.00Laibschggilbert: Is bugzilla accessible via its current IP now
22:27.11LaibschOr is it completely offline?
22:28.38hvontres|workLaibsch: I beleive it is offline as of this morning :(
22:50.29drmikecrowehey folks, I know this is stupid, but if I have the tmp/deploy/ipk/armv5te/*.ipk files, how do I extract them?  midnight commander says they aren't .tar.gz files
22:50.55pb__dpkg-deb, ipkg-unbuild, or ar x
22:52.10drmikecrowepb__, thanks
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23:02.04ggilbertLaibsch: completely offline.
23:02.29ggilbertThe old host could no longer continue to provide rackspace, so the server had to be picked up and is currently sitting in the corner of my office.
23:02.38ggilbertI'm in the process of purchasing new hosting service
23:02.54zeckepb__: I had to add an rpath for f951 so it can find libmpfr and libgmp and I had to patch the configure...
23:03.13zeckepb__: do you know if --enable-rpath of gcc can accept a path as well? the configure.in was a bit hard to get
23:05.19pb__zecke: sorry, I don't know offhand
23:05.22pb__I can look at it tomorrow if you remind me in the morning
23:05.48zeckepb__: it will be at lunch time :)
23:07.22pb__okay :-)
23:07.28pb__night all
23:08.30zeckepb__: bye! nice that you are here again!
23:09.03ggilbertLaibsch: on one hand it'll be nice to be someplace a bit more stable
23:09.27ggilbertLaibsch: On the other hand, getting a bill each month is a bit less exciting :)
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23:13.36zeckeit is time for another fakeroot update
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23:45.44mwesterzecke: new fakeroot version from upstream?
23:45.49zeckeyes
23:46.01zeckemwester: It is kind of annoying to find a debian mirror that has 1.8 :)
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23:46.34mwesterCool.  it's buggy code; anything newer is likely to be better.
23:47.01zeckehaha
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23:59.03ggilbertkergoth: ping
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