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00:03.47undertookhi all
00:05.42flo_laphi undertook
00:06.42undertookhi flo_lap eveyrthing allright?
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00:08.12flo_lapundertook: apart from a terrible lack of time ;)
00:08.53undertookflo_lap: i think that is becoming the most common problem around .... ;-)
00:09.06flo_lapundertook: indeed
00:10.44undertookflo_lap:tonight i will dream a newversion of OE/bitbake that will "make world" within five minutes.... lol
00:24.02flo_lapuh
00:24.46T0mWundertook: thank you God
00:25.26undertookT0mW: :-|
00:26.21T0mWundertook: the American Indians say that we are all a dream in the mind of God, so, if you can change bitbake for me...
00:27.18undertookT0mW: yes i will (in mind ofcourse)....
00:28.26undertookbtw the guy that thought about bitbake should have really hate buildroot....
00:28.42undertookor thought he has an indian...
00:28.47undertookhe was...
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09:51.27wvdschelhi
09:51.37wvdschelhow do I make bitbake generate a feed for the packages i built so far?
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10:04.22thesingmorning all
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10:07.40wvdschelmorning thesing
10:07.52wvdschelI ordered the book printed by the way
10:07.56wvdschelshould be here in a few weeks
10:08.39thesingwvdschel: ok.
10:09.51thesingwvdschel: if you want to get started in doing something you could look at zaurusd and make it calling "apm -s" when the cancel key is pressed for some time.
10:09.52keesjhi
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10:13.50keesjhmm I am compiling glibc and I guess it needs to include my arch specific asm directory that is located in the kernel subdir. is that the right thinking or ams I missing symlinks?
10:14.00wvdschelthesing, alright
10:15.24thesingkeesj: AFAIK you need kernel headers to compile any libc.
10:16.12keesjthesing: yes , I also think so , but apparently it is not done in my setup :(
10:16.44keesjI think people like to compiled against generic kernel headers
10:17.06thesingare you using a generic distro?
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10:18.02keesjmamona (based on angstrom)
10:18.29keesjbut I am trying to compiled a "x86_64" version
10:19.24keesjperhaps it is a pretty weird idea :p. I have not the feeling the x86_64 is well supported by oe
10:19.33thesingI have no idea how well this arch is supported by oe.
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10:23.36gintssomeone has recepie by hand for qemu build taking gcc 4.x instead of 3?
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10:26.24gintsjust let quemu use 4.x is ok?
10:26.59NAbyssgints: IIRC, qemu doesn't compile well with 4.x; you should probably install gcc-3.3
10:27.21gintsk.. thx
10:27.42Azraelhi, i have a little problem with mtn and the database, i want to update the database, but I allways get a database is locked. The strange thing is, that if i cope the database from my network-folder to the local-folder everything works great
10:29.16NAbyssAzrael: Using it over nfs?
10:29.40NAbyssAzrael: Make sure the nfs mount has lock in the options
10:29.41Azraeli tried nfs3 and cifs
10:30.07NAbysshm
10:30.08NAbyssactually
10:30.10Azraelok, i will try lock
10:30.12NAbyssis it a soft or hard nfs mount?
10:31.41Azraelits the default
10:31.58NAbyssnfs v3 or v4?
10:32.21Azraelv3
10:34.58Azraelthe client-configuration is:  remote_Machine:/Daten /Daten nfs nfsvers=3,hard,defaults 0  0
10:38.45Azraellock is also not working, still the sqlite error: database is locked
10:44.56NAbysshm
10:45.09NAbyssif you're absolutely sure no remote machines will touch it, use nolock in the mount options
10:45.14NAbyssthat'll only do local locks
10:46.09Azraelok, nolock worked ;)
10:46.33Azraelthanks a lot
10:47.03NAbyssnp :)
10:47.12AzraelI only have 2 computers, an storage server and my local computer, so this should work ;)
10:47.48NAbyssAh, cool :)
10:48.09NAbyssIf you're doing a full build of a distro, say, angstrom or openzaurus, you'll need something in the vicinity of 3-10gb, depending on what you build.
10:48.51Azraelmhm, thats why i need the server, my computer has only 20Gb, und 2gb are free oO
10:49.26AzraelI dont need a full distro, only qtopia gtk and maybe x11, hopefully it will work
10:49.39NAbyssah, good luck :)
10:49.47Azraelthx :)
11:09.25gintslol question I just tought about.. when my HD is full .. what film to delete now :)
11:09.46gints2 G is used already.. .how much more :)
11:10.20NAbyssgints: tmp/ is where all the output goes
11:11.08xjqiangints: if you are not debuging build, add INHERIT += "rm_work" to your local.conf
11:11.25gintsk.. I do
11:12.29gintsyes ..btw nooby question where is supposed to be local.conf :)
11:12.39gintsI configure by hand first :)
11:13.24NAbyssbuild/conf/local.conf
11:13.35gintsoh ok tx
11:21.43CIA-3603xjqian 07org.oe.dev * r094e9bfd... 10/ (1 packages/opie-taskbar/opie-taskbar-images.inc): opie-taskbar-images.inc: fix -dbg listed in PACKAGES multiple times (QA)
11:26.15CIA-3603rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * rd2c5e48f... 10/ (5 files in 4 dirs): apex: Added automatic fatslug detection.
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12:14.04cdbot2* * OE Bug 3703 has been REOPENED by <Laibsch>
12:14.06cdbot2* * libwnck-2.13.5-r0-do_install
12:14.08cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3703
12:14.16cdbot2* * OE Bug 3703 has been RESOLVED (WORKSFORME) by <Laibsch>
12:14.18cdbot2* * libwnck-2.13.5-r0-do_install
12:14.20cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3703
12:14.28cdbot2* * OE Bug 3694 has been RESOLVED (WORKSFORME) by <Laibsch>
12:14.30cdbot2* * libsdl-mixer-1.2.6-r1-do_install
12:14.32cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3694
12:24.32Laibschxjqian: Your latest commit should not have been necessary
12:25.02Laibsch=+ is appended and thus $PN-dbg should already be at the first position
12:25.29LaibschDoes opie-taskbar-images build for you?  What machines?
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12:26.21xjqianLaibsch: I know, but QA barks. And I don't see why you need $PN-dbg in =+?
12:26.56LaibschQA should not bark
12:27.13LaibschEssentially, your commit does not change anything, really
12:27.26LaibschIf it barked, it probably still barks
12:27.35LaibschOr you have some other problem
12:28.03xjqianLaibsch: It did. opie-taskbar-images-dbg listed multiple times in PACKAGE
12:28.15LaibschBTW, I don't see the need for $PN-dbg in =+, either, but it was you who made the commit
12:28.24xjqianLaibsch: QA even asked you to submit a bug :)
12:28.31LaibschNot me
12:28.55LaibschHaving it listed multiple times in PACKAGE should now list it even one more time
12:29.18Laibschxjqian: My bad
12:29.32LaibschI read your commit with "-R"-glasses on ;-)
12:29.39LaibschThe commit is sane
12:29.53xjqianno problem
12:30.57xjqianLaibsch: I do have a question because I have to patch opie-taskbar-images_cvs.bb to build for opie-1.2.4-pre
12:31.33Jin^eLDre
12:32.06xjqianLaibsch: it is that do_configure() calls base_do_configure, which does nothing and is the correct behavior in 1.2.3
12:32.54xjqianLaibsch: however in 1.2.4-pre or do_configure() calls qmake_base_do_configure, which brings in all kinds of crap is wrong
12:33.33xjqianLaibsch: you know why the discrepency or anything changed recently?
12:56.30Laibschno idea, sorry
12:56.37LaibschI am firmly in 1.2.3-land
12:56.54Laibschbluelightning and polyonymous are the ones to talk to, I think
13:00.48thesingLaibsch: did you find the error in your build environment?
13:00.58LaibschNo, not yet
13:01.22LaibschBut I can build images fine from a clean Sonkei environment on another (and fast) computer
13:01.39LaibschSo, it looks like the local changes I have have brought this problem about
13:01.53LaibschIt should be relatively easy to bring things back to normal.
13:03.24Laibschxjqian: I looked through the log for opie-taskbar-images.
13:03.36LaibschBecause the commit you made will cause other problems.
13:04.05LaibschAnd I found that the =+ creeped in while I was experimenting with that file, but it was never meant to be really committed.
13:04.22LaibschI just overlooked it when doing the "inherit opie" line
13:04.28CIA-3603pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rcce3c198... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-handhelds-2.6-2.6.21/h5000/defconfig):
13:04.28CIA-36linux-handhelds-2.6 2.6.21: Enable USB WiFi support for h5000.
13:04.28CIA-36* Possibly, incomplete.
13:04.28CIA-36* Based on defconfig from Koen Kooi.
13:04.28CIA-36* defconfigman r432
13:04.37CIA-3603pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r9814a7ac... 10/ (24 files in 24 dirs):
13:04.37CIA-36linux-handhelds-2.6 2.6.21: Update to latest defconfigman. Includes:
13:04.37CIA-36* magician flash boot hacks
13:04.38CIA-36* mtdblock support moves to modules, as non-essential for flash boot.
13:04.40CIA-36* Few netcards PCMCIA drivers enabled for hx4700.
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13:09.44xjqianLaibsch: what do you mean?
13:10.05LaibschJust a second
13:10.16LaibschI will commit what is the right solution in a minute
13:11.50LaibschThe right thing was not to remove $PN-dbg, but replace =+  with =
13:12.57polyonymousLaibsch, xjqian I haven't tried -pre for a few months now, I think bluelightning is the one to talk to.
13:13.16polyonymousin fact I haven't built 1.2.3 either for quite a while :)
13:14.05xjqianpolyonymous: thanks, I will try to talk to bluelightning.
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13:14.48xjqianbtw, except for that small annoyance, 1.2.4-pre builds fine with todays SRCDATE
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13:24.22thesingLaibsch: collie hardware does support sdio.
13:24.39Laibsch??
13:24.56LaibschDid you assume until now that it did not?
13:25.08LaibschWhat benefit does it bring?
13:25.19thesingI read it somewhere that some important pins were not connected.
13:25.38thesingwell you could use sdio wifi or gps cards.
13:26.10thesingand use your a microdrive in cf.
13:26.46CIA-3603Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * rf82b7629... 10/ (1 packages/opie-taskbar/opie-taskbar-images.inc):
13:26.46CIA-36opie-taskbar-images: fix the PACKAGES line
13:26.46CIA-36* while doing the "inherit opie" thing in 8725fc715529f6dba921a0a92e01e4e68124bfdb
13:26.46CIA-36<PROTECTED>
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13:27.12Laibschthesing: Nice
13:27.26LaibschI think I don't have an SDIO device, though
13:27.36LaibschIs the SD wifi card SDIO?
13:28.04thesingyes.
13:28.23LaibschI remember some people had problems because wifi blocked the CF slot which they wanted to use for something else (GPS, possibly)
13:28.37thesingafaik everything that goes into sd-slot and is no flash card is sdio.
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13:29.25thesingthey should connect gps with normal uart.
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14:00.07CIA-3603xjqian 07org.oe.dev * r08302dde... 10/ (17 files in 6 dirs):
14:00.07CIA-36gnuplot: update 4.2.2, add 4.3.0+cvs
14:00.08CIA-36* restructure patch directories
14:00.08CIA-36* update angstrom-preferred
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14:30.04thesingLaibsch: could you commit http://pastebin.ca/874811 ? With this one can build images that start for collie.
14:47.04cdbot2* * OE Bug 3645 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by thommycheck(AT)gmx.de
14:47.06cdbot2* * Collie: interface for mail and charging leds
14:47.08cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3645
14:53.56keesjI am still kinda stuck with building the glibc. for x86_64 , I had to point the with-headers to the staging/kernel directory and now I have http://paste-it.net/6033 multiple definition of `__libc_multiple_libcs'
14:55.07keesjany thints would be greatlty apreciated :p
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15:05.46CoreDumpcold anyone tell me why TARGET_OS would be set to "linux-gnueabi" for collie builds? It should be "linux" but I can't figure out why it is wrong for me
15:08.55thesingits ok here. maybe something in your local.conf?
15:10.52CoreDumpI wish, local.conf looks innocent enough
15:11.55CoreDumpmy python-foo is not strong enough to reverse-engineer the setting of TARGET_OS
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15:16.06thesingCoreDump: well with fgrep you should be able to do it.
15:17.28CoreDumptrust me, you have to speak python to understand how it is set
15:36.53CoreDumpwell, here is one for the python experts. TARGET_OS gets set correctly when I have 'MACHINE = "collie"' in local.conf but it gets set wrong when I use 'MACHINE = "${@bb.data.getVar('OE_MACHINE', d, 1)}"' while OE_MACHINE="collie". What the hell?
15:37.54CoreDump'MACHINE        = "collie"' is reported in both cases!
15:38.46CoreDumphas probably somezhing to do with ARM_ABI ?= "${@['','oabi'][bb.data.getVar('MACHINE',d) in ['collie','h3600', 'h3800', 'simpad', 'htcwallaby']]}"
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16:02.47_law_hi, any ideas why my kdrive xserver doesnt build? http://paste.uni.cc/18204
16:04.04cdbot2* * OE Bug 3708 has been marked as DUPLICATE of bug 3544 by thommycheck(AT)gmx.de
16:04.06cdbot2* * Touchscreen non responsive on 2.6.24-rc8
16:04.08cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3708
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16:17.00T0mWwhy does angstrom build fortran??
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16:17.41T0mWgcc-cross-4.1.1 patches for fortran, then dies complaining of MPFR not supporting it
16:18.23Croftonare you workign with a recent checkout?
16:18.38Croftonthere are some packages that need FORTRAN :)
16:18.44Croftonso it builds the toolchain
16:18.57T0mWit was checked out yesterday, I will resync
16:19.05Croftonhmmm
16:19.12CroftonI thought a fix was already in
16:19.19T0mWCrofton: get out of here, who uses fortran on a handheld?
16:19.26T0mWLOL
16:19.32Croftonnot all targets are handhelds
16:19.42Croftonand someone built octave :)
16:21.31T0mWCrofton: I figured that since we were going to the trouble to build a distro for the Zipit Z2 that I would use the Angstrom distro as it seems that everyones focus is on that?
16:22.46T0mWum, it is gcc-cross-4.2.2 not 4.1.1
16:23.09T0mWsame error:
16:23.25T0mWchecking for correct version of mpfr.h... buggy version of MPFR detected
16:23.34T0mWconfigure: error: GMP 4.1 and MPFR 2.2.1 or newer versions required by fortran
16:24.54T0mWGPM is 4.2
16:25.31T0mWmpfr is 2.3.0
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16:27.25Croftonhttp://76.74.156.109/show_bug.cgi?id=3363
16:27.43T0mWwhy would I want to use Angstrom anyway?  Is there something magical about it?
16:29.26T0mWCrofton: thanks, I'll try the ugly hack
16:30.14T0mWCrofton: but, should I use angstrom?  I would like to make a nice handheld and am afraid if I use another distro selection that all my work would be for nothing.
16:30.48T0mWseems that whenever I attempt to build a gpe / opie / X that I run into compiliation deaths
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16:31.57CIA-36Add missing files from 9005ec7475f13738f08b14c023c457704df3f4af.
16:31.57CIA-36* mtn sucks at cherry-picking.
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16:36.41CroftonAngstrom is a good place to start
16:37.10Croftoneventually, we can add feeds to the angstrom website
16:37.19T0mWshould I drop back to the angstrom-2007-legacy ?
16:37.27Croftonhttp://www.angstrom-distribution.org/
16:37.39Croftonthat might be easier atm
16:37.57CroftonI have applied the ugly hack
16:38.05Croftonbut I do bleeding edge stuff
16:38.07T0mWCrofton: where did you put that hack?
16:39.49T0mWI tried it in org.openembedded.dev/packages/gcc/gcc-cross_4.2.2.bb
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16:40.54CroftonI can't find where at them moent
16:40.55GNUtoo-laptophello, there is gnash-0.8.0 in your repository(bb of 0.8.1 avaliable here:http://cvs.savannah.gnu.org/viewvc/*checkout*/gnash/gnash_0.8.1.bb?revision=1.1&root=gnash) but does it work inside a browser like konqueror-embedded ?
16:40.55Croftongrrr
16:41.03CroftonI think in gcc-cross
16:41.39T0mWI tried that, I suspect that it may have to be put into gcc_4.2.2.bb and rebuild the native package.
16:42.02T0mWOh well, I will give angstrom-2007.1-legacy.conf a try
16:42.33Croftonyeah
16:42.42Croftonhopefully it does not have the fortran issue
16:42.46T0mWif that doesn't work, maybe sprinkle some --disable-fortran statements into the gcc bb file configure
16:43.02CroftonI have some work I need to do due the first week in Feb
16:43.26T0mWI have some work that was due last week.  heh
16:43.32Croftonafter that I need to 1) Hope they give me more work, and 2) Lower their expectations so I have some hacking time
16:43.52Croftontoday I need to get a xlinix ml403 booting
16:44.07T0mWfortunately, the zipit stuff is related to a project coming up
16:45.05Croftoncool
16:45.38CroftonI need to do some janitor work on gumtsix, then I can look at the zipit stuff
16:45.49T0mWCrofton: maybe I am going about this all wrong?  I should assume that *somebody* can build angstrom with OE, then
16:46.16T0mWchoose one of the machines, like simpad and try to build that against angstrom
16:46.42T0mWif it builds, then maybe take a look at my machine definition to see what is missing / added?
16:46.57Croftonthat is always a good idea
16:47.22CroftonI think part of the FORTRAN issue is it finds stuff installed in the build machine
16:47.46T0mWI see simpad opie on the angstrom website, but you know, I will probably get borked by something missing in my local.conf :(
16:48.10T0mWthat is the biggest aggravation about OE, the conf files
16:48.15Croftontry legacy also, it is based of the stable angstrom
16:48.20T0mWok
16:48.22T0mWcul
16:48.44CroftonI need to do some painting
16:49.49T0mWCrofton: hobby or honey-do ?
16:50.10Croftonmy office :)
16:50.13T0mWlol
16:50.30CroftonI have a closet door and a window to finish
16:50.47Croftonbasically, I am procastinating by being productive ....
16:55.16thesingLegacy if for 2.4 kernels. You could copy conf/distro/angstrom-for-openmoko.inc to conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf
16:55.27thesings/if/is/
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17:16.39gremlin[it]ho all
17:16.44gremlin[it]hi all
17:17.03gremlin[it]well i fog a trouble ... i'm movng OE to a DM320 TI machine
17:17.18gremlin[it]it's something similar to DaVinci ...
17:17.48gremlin[it]i try to compile a static executable hello world program but i got illegal istruction ...
17:18.08gremlin[it]OE use as gcc parameters '-march=armv5te -mtune=arm926ej-s' ...
17:18.22gremlin[it]machine report to be "Processor       : ARM926EJ-Sid(wb) rev 3 (v5l)"
17:18.31gremlin[it]and "Features        : swp half thumb fastmult edsp java "
17:18.41gremlin[it]what's wrong ?!?!?
17:19.28Croftonweird
17:19.39CroftonI find toolchain from omap5912osk works for DV
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17:21.46gremlin[it]yes also omap (arm9) are similar ...
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17:23.00pb_gremlin[it]: check your floating point settings
17:24.57gremlin[it]pb_ TARGET_FPU     = "soft"
17:26.27pb_that ought to be safe enough
17:26.39pb_I guess you need to find out what the actual instruction is that fails.
17:26.41gremlin[it]in fact ...
17:26.59gremlin[it]arg ...
17:29.03gremlin[it]if i boot with an image build with OE nothing happen except kernel ... with existent Linux in the machine to run static executable only ... there isn't debugging tool already present ;(
17:31.03pb_gremlin[it]: use CONFIG_DEBUG_USER
17:31.47gremlin[it]pb_ mhh how ?!
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17:32.53pb_gremlin[it]: turn that option on, rebuild your kernel, boot with the resulting kernel, inspect the output
17:33.31gremlin[it]ok !
17:34.17gremlin[it]strict oe question in possible to set two packege type ... ipkg and tar in local.conf ?
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17:39.09pb_yes, I think so.
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17:50.24gremlin[it]pb_ booting with kernel (user_debug=31) and OE filesystem i got this message looping on console
17:50.31gremlin[it]Code: e2632000 859fc01c 878a200c ef000000 (e3700a01)
17:50.31gremlin[it][1] init: obsolete system call 00000000.
17:50.31gremlin[it]Code: e08fa00a e1a00001 e3a070f8 ef000000 (e1a03000)
17:50.31gremlin[it][1] init: obsolete system call 00000000.
17:51.44pb_what kernel are you using?
17:52.32gremlin[it]not a vanilla or arm ... came from the company who build the device ...
17:53.25pb_hm.  well, it apparently doesn't like the system call standard you're using.
17:53.35pb_are you trying to run an eabi userspace on an old-abi kernel?
17:54.33gremlin[it]pb_ ... can be ... the kernel is a 2.6.15 ... no eabi i suppose ...
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17:56.08T0mW<sigh> same fortran error in gcc-cross
18:02.17thesingXorA|gone: congratulations.
18:02.36thesingXorA|gone: what application is it?
18:02.46XorA|goneepdfview
18:03.20thesingdidn't they include a pdfviewer  ;)
18:06.21XorA|gonethesing: its not very good :-)
18:07.09CroftonXorA|gone, what is up with the fortran issue?
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18:07.20XorA|goneCrofton: what fortran issue?
18:07.22CroftonI thought it had been fixed :(
18:07.46CroftonT0mW, was running into the mfpr/fortran problem with gcc-cross?
18:07.56XorA|goneno idea, Ive never run into that issue
18:08.16Croftonyeah
18:08.20CroftonI did
18:08.31Croftonbut  I think it went away
18:08.38XorA|goneI guess its one of these issues that the people who hit it have to fix it
18:08.40T0mWI'm trying to install gfortran on the system and see if that fixes it
18:08.46Croftonoh well back to paiting
18:08.57CroftonT0mW, I suspect that "fixes" it :(
18:11.29T0mWXorA|gone: http://76.74.156.109/show_bug.cgi?id=3363
18:12.31XorA|goneT0mW: means nothing to me
18:12.51T0mWXorA|gone: just that I'm not the only one that has hit this one
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18:47.47GNUtoo-laptophello, i don't manage to find where 2008.1-test-20080127 's opie-image use the 2.3.12 version of qte :
18:47.53GNUtoo-laptopi've searched in opie-image
18:48.18GNUtoo-laptopi've searched if there was something included in angstrom-2008.1-test-20080127
18:48.23GNUtoo-laptop(the include)
18:48.39GNUtoo-laptopoops s/2008.1-test-20080127/angstrom-2008.1-test-20080127/
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19:13.32keesjwhat would be a better place to ask those newbie questions about compiling glibc ?
19:14.42wvdschelkeesj: If you don't ask them here, I'll be the only one asking newbie questions
19:14.49wvdscheldon't leave me alone ;)
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19:16.37gintsmy opie build stops at gconf-dbus unpack :(  ...
19:16.57T0mWwvdschel: heh
19:18.37gintsdoes building-angstrom wiki page have instructions for latest OE repositary or for stable one?
19:21.52keesjgints: no error message?
19:21.58keesjno load?
19:23.06gintsstarox|gone: /oe/downloads/trunk_developer.imendio.com_.svn.gconf-dbus_606_.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
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19:23.40T0mWCrofton: Angstrom builds now (gcc-cross) if I installed the gmp + mpfr libs onto the development computer.  thanks
19:24.07T0mWstrange that the ones that OE builds won't work
19:24.16keesjtry downloading again.. bitbake -f -c fetch gconf-dbus
19:27.37gintskeesj: http://www.pastebin.ca/875281
19:28.29gintsit's funy that fetch goes very fast
19:30.07keesjperhaps it does nothing :p
19:30.54gintsseems like
19:30.59keesjand does the tar.gz file exist and is ok?
19:31.06gintsnop :(
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19:32.57gintsit was but now it is not
19:33.00otavioHello folks ... I've been fighting with OE to get to work with latin1 (well, ISO-8859-1) characters. Does someone know about any distribution in OE that uses it?
19:33.07otaviozecke: hey
19:33.13gintszecke: hi man
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19:33.33pb_yo zecke
19:33.40pb_hi flo_lap
19:33.42flo_lapre
19:34.00flo_laphi pb_
19:34.16zeckeflo_lap: hey, did you find a spare cycle for the e.V.
19:34.43zeckeotavio: when you want to upgrade packages, you have to add the checksum to checksums.ini as well
19:34.52wvdschelerm
19:34.53wvdschelERROR: QA Issue: libmudflap.la failed sanity test (installed) in path /opt/openembedded/build/tmp/staging/arm-angstrom-linux/lib
19:34.59otaviozecke: you mean for cmake?
19:35.07wvdschelthis happens every time I build an image
19:35.11otaviozecke: ok, my fault. Want me to send a new patch with it?
19:35.24flo_lapzecke: not yet, I guress I'll do that tomorrow at work
19:35.26zeckeotavio: it is already upgraded
19:35.38otaviozecke: great. Thanks a lot
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19:35.57zeckeotavio: I'm about to look into Finding Qt4 now
19:36.07otaviozecke: awesome
19:37.25pb_zecke: how do I find out from monotone the history of a file that has been deleted?
19:37.35pb_"mtn log" doesn't seem to work on files that are no longer there.
19:37.40wvdscheldoes anyone know what is causing this?
19:38.04pb_wvdschel: causing what, exactly?
19:38.13pb_oh, right, up there
19:38.13zeckewvdschel: it is a non fatal error... why do you care?
19:38.20GNUtoo-laptopzecke, hello i'm trying to use qte-2.3.10 instead of 2.3.12 for angstrom-2008.1-test-20080127 but i don't find where it look for the version...i've looked inside images,angstrom and its include
19:38.21wvdschelthen what is it?
19:38.38zeckepb_: http://www.openembedded.org/bonsai/do_query/?default=file and search for your file
19:38.38wvdschelbesides a non-fatal error
19:38.56zeckewvdschel: check www.openembedded.org and what our QA errors mean?
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19:39.08zeckeGNUtoo-laptop: spare with that old stuff
19:39.12zeckeGNUtoo-laptop: spare me eveb
19:39.18zeckeeven... *gosh*
19:40.00pb_zecke: great, thanks
19:40.12pb_heh, seems it was deleted by koen, hrw, mickeyl and florian
19:40.21pb_obviously some kind of undead vampire file that wouldn't stay down
19:40.24zeckewvdschel: http://www.openembedded.org/more-quality-assurance-tests
19:40.27mwesterhehe!
19:40.32zeckepb_: one deleted it, the other merged :)
19:40.43pb_ah yes
19:41.02pb_koen seems to be the original culprit
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19:41.43pb_"Xorg: drop stale recipes X11R7* in PV. Those aren't needed anymore after the Xorg cleanup from poky was merged"
19:42.03pb_well, yes, except that apparently the new files don't include everything from the old ones.
19:42.24zeckehehe
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19:43.16pb_zecke: do you think my monotone key would still work for checking in?
19:43.47zeckeGNUtoo-laptop: generally, there is something called PREFERRED_VERSION (see the bitbake manual) this either gets set to 2.3.12 (e.g. in a file in conf/distro) or 2.3.12 is the highest version and wins anyway
19:43.52zeckepb_: it should
19:43.56pb_great
19:44.12pb_I guess on my old laptop
19:44.29zeckehehe, I hope you do remember your password as well
19:44.43zeckeotherwise we are going to have a pb2...
19:45.32pb_hm
19:45.34pb_I think I do
19:45.39GNUtoo-laptopzecke, i know that but i don't know in which file i should change it
19:46.03zeckeGNUtoo-laptop: quite easy. does it get set? change it there?
19:46.26pb_can you remind me how to get the key out of my old database and import it into the new one?
19:46.35zeckeGNUtoo-laptop: is it not getting set? and you read the angstrom documentation regarding Opie...
19:46.37GNUtoo-laptopzecke, ahh...i understand if it's not set it takes the higher version
19:46.49zeckepb_: is it in your db? or is it in .monotone/
19:47.09zeckepb_: a mtn --db foo.db db migrate should extract the keys to the .monotone dir
19:47.55pb_okay
19:47.58zeckewvdschel: read the link?
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19:49.13pb_ah right, I seem to have something in .monotone/keys already
19:49.20wvdschelnot yet, I don't have the time right now
19:49.23pb_I want the @openembedded.org one, right, not pb@handhelds.org?
19:49.52zeckewvdschel: why did you ask then? ;)
19:50.09wvdschelhow do I make bitbake generate an ipkg feed?
19:50.25wvdschelzecke, because a) I didn't know it would be such a long answer
19:50.43wvdschelb) and I thought it would be semi-serious
19:50.56zeckewvdschel: the answer is one paragraph :)
19:51.06wvdschelthe first one?
19:51.07zeckewvdschel: bitbake package-index (but technically bitbake does not generate your feed)
19:51.44zeckepb_: @openembedded.org is generally preferred but do what you want
19:52.08wvdschelzecke, yeah, I know, but I didn't know how to put it
19:52.20zeckewvdschel: :)
19:52.34otaviozecke: your @o.o isn't working, at least it failed last time I tried
19:52.50wvdschelI should have said "how do I generate the package feed" is suppose, assuming we still do the things we issue the commands for :P
19:52.53zeckeotavio: hehe, it is not a mail address :)
19:52.58gintsgah.. where OE keeps logs? want check why gconf-dbus fetch does nothing
19:53.13zeckegints: how are you? where have you been?
19:53.34gintszecke: hi.. I am fine.. I was used to programming for symbian
19:53.36otaviozecke: OMG! it is used on the commit logs. That is confusing!
19:53.38keesjgints: I can give you mines if you want
19:53.52zeckeotavio: on openembedded.org/people it says "NOTE: The monotone key addresses may or may not be valid email addresses. Please do not attempt to use them as such."
19:54.04otavioahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
19:54.20zeckehehe :)
19:54.22gintskeesj: your gzip would be fine :)
19:54.32keesjadd -vvv -d to your command , and the logs are located in a diretory called temp
19:55.29keesjgints: http://box.mmapps.net/oe_gconf_dbus.zip (contains a few more files that stated with the same root)
19:56.29wvdschelgints, symbian and open source?
19:56.46gintswvdschel: no :(
19:56.55wvdschelI thought so
19:57.09wvdschelsymbian is pretty hard to program for as an open source developer
19:57.12gintswvdschel: there is just some opensource projects
19:57.18wvdschelat least I found it to be
19:57.31gintswvdschel: symbian is beatch
19:57.35wvdschelyeah, but very few, and very few that work on UIQ
19:57.50wvdscheland even fewer that work on the newer UIQs
19:58.09otaviozecke: well ... but it's _confusing_
19:58.11wvdschelI have to get back to studying
19:58.21wvdschelsee you all later
19:58.32zeckeotavio: I agree and you are probably not the first to mail there
19:58.46zeckeotavio: specially when reading the git changelog, where these are mail addresses :}
20:00.51gintszecke: I just found that opie coming back to Angstrom... so I come to test :)
20:02.38gintsprobably I found no better enviroment yet for embedded devices like opie yet
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20:13.19pb_gr, this fonts thing is a nuisance
20:13.32pb_it seems that it wasn't just one file that was erroneously deleted, there are a whole load of them
20:14.48Croftonand is also glad he uses machines without displays most of the tim
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20:16.08pb_well, I seem to have managed to fish enough bits out of the archive that at least bitbake will do something other than report dependency problems now :-}
20:18.15philippeCrofton: it even gets worse if you have to throw internationalisation in...
20:18.58gintskeesj: many thx.. I can continue now to opie-image :)
20:19.09keesjcool
20:20.29gremlin[it]mhh have sense if OE create in tmp/work the dir "arm-oabi-angstrom-linux-gnueabi" ... it's oabi or eabi ?!?!?
20:20.55pb_eabi, probably
20:21.34gremlin[it]ufff ...
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20:32.35pb_well, maybe not quite so patientl
20:32.38pb_y
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21:41.29zeckepb_: hehe, at least you are not waiting on monotone :}
21:43.17Croftonsomeone remind me what causes EOL errors when runnign bitbake on a new install?
21:43.42zeckeCrofton: bitbake tries to expand a variable but it was not defined
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21:45.28CroftonKERNEL_VERSION maybe
21:45.30Croftonhmmm
21:47.21Croftonah TMPDIR = 'foo"
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21:50.05flo_laphi lrg
21:50.24lrghey flo_lap
21:55.09RP'morning' all
21:55.23flo_lapRP: morning :)
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22:06.19pb_zecke: heh, right
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22:06.25zeckepb_: :)
22:06.35zeckepb_: I operate a git mirror as well
22:06.36pb_hi lrg
22:07.45pb_ah yes, I think I remember that from before
22:07.59pb_well, for now I seem to be doing ok with monotone
22:09.15pb_oh, drat, I forgot to set PARALLEL_MAKE
22:09.20pb_no wonder it's going so slowly
22:09.48CroftonI like to leave || make off so I can surf while building :)
22:10.48pb_heh
22:11.26pb_ah, do_install now
22:11.43Croftonanyone seen a schedule for the embedded rrom at fosdem yet?
22:11.47pb_brief visit from lrg there
22:13.17philippeCrofton: coming soon. Working on it ;-)
22:13.45Croftonah
22:14.04CroftonI was looking on the embedded-kernel-track.org site
22:14.17CroftonHopefully it is as good as last year :)
22:14.26RPpb_: Which files got lost with the xorg update?
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22:15.01philippeCrofton: embedded-kernel-track.org site is deprecated in favour of the fosdem website.
22:15.20Croftonok
22:15.22philippeCrofton: and looking at the submissions it will be good this year too.
22:15.28Croftonyou should make a note there :)
22:16.06pb_RP: font-misc-misc and font-cursor-misc, plus a pile of things that they seem to depend on to build.
22:16.50pb_font-alias, font-util and something else that I forget
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22:19.41RPpb_: :(. Sounds like they got lost during the conversion but that shouldn't have happened...
22:23.49pb_ah yes, xorg-font-common.inc has font-alias and font-util-native in DEPENDS, neither of which exist anymore in the current packages tree.
22:24.12pb_and font-util-native depends on bdftopcf-native, which also seems to have disappeared
22:24.23RPDo they have modern xorg equivalents?
22:25.32pb_I'm not quite sure what you mean.
22:25.56pb_All those packages are still in the Xorg upstream tree, as far as I know.  They're certainly still in X11R7.3.
22:26.09RPYes, thats what I mean...
22:26.34RPI mean they're not just in the old style xorg cvs/release system
22:26.40pb_oh, right
22:27.02pb_no, the old (now deleted) .bb files were using the X11R7.0 tarballs
22:27.20pb_or X11R7.1 in some cases, I think
22:27.21RPI sounds like they were removed by mistake...
22:29.07pb_yeah, it does sound that way
22:29.19pb_assuming that they still compile, I guess I'll put them back.
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22:29.36GNUtoo-laptophello bitbake opie-image fails at opie-taskmar-images http://pastebin.com/m4b5314ef
22:30.10RPStrangely my commit mailbox doesn't have the deletion mail in it...
22:30.37RPI was assuming these files were pre X11R7.0 but that isn't the case...
22:31.12pb_http://www.openembedded.org/bonsai/view/rev/31683/
22:31.39pb_at a first glance, none of the files deleted there seem to be pre-X11R7.0
22:32.38RPno. The worrying thing about that commit is that poky doesn't use xorg-font/*...
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22:32.51pb_ah
22:32.58Sleep_Walker!seen psokolovsky*
22:32.58cdbot2psokolovsky (n=psokolov@nat-users.is.ua) was last seen quitting from #oe 15 days, 6 hours, 12 minutes ago stating (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)).
22:33.08pb_I guess that would explain why nobody has noticed before.
22:33.09Sleep_Walker!seen pfalcon*
22:33.11cdbot2No matches were found.
22:33.17Sleep_Walker:(
22:33.31RPpb_: There are users of OE besides poky though...
22:34.38pb_mm.  I guess none of them use xorg-font either. :-}
22:34.54RPevo's search function is useless, I do have this commit mail...
22:34.58pb_heh
22:35.52flo_lapgood night
22:36.00pb_flo_lap: good night
22:36.08pb_night all
22:36.11RPflo_lap: 'night
22:37.02RPpb_: I'll go through that commit and see what else might have got lost...
22:40.55pb_RP: thanks
22:41.58Croftonah, closet doors in the office again
22:43.54RP'night pb_
22:44.35Croftonhmm, some guy claiming cheap omap stuff in coming weeks in a blog ...
22:49.20RPpb_: Ah, I understand what koen did, it was a case of removing everything with the XORG7.* string in PV
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22:50.11Croftonsometimes knowing how to lots of work with simple scripts is not a good thing :)
22:50.58helgeDRP: I just compiled 2.6.24 (copied from -dev to -stable), created some patches, and recompiled opie-image for poodle. WPA-WIFI works now out of the box on poodle :-)
22:51.07helgeDRP: Ok, if I send you the patches ?
22:51.19RPhelgeD: great :)
22:51.32RPhelgeD: I don't deal with angstrom stable, they need to go to someone else
22:52.06helgeDRP: Ok, but the defconfig-poodle patch and the other (small) linux-patches should go to -dev, right?
22:52.22RPhelgeD: If patches are needed, yes.
22:52.35CroftonI think there is a plan to copy kernel updates from .dev in the next few weeks
22:52.47helgeDRP: yes, are needed. Doesn't build without (image too big and compile errors).
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22:54.16RPhelgeD: ok, patches welcome then :)
22:54.17leno29hi to all
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22:54.32leno29i need to recompile a kernel for Familiar Distribution
22:54.38leno29i have recompile it
22:54.44leno29and now? what i have to do?
22:55.01leno29if i use ipkg i have more problem, i want to do this manually. everyone can help me?
22:57.15leno29RP, can help me?
22:58.04RPleno29: This channel is more about automating that process and using openembedded to do the work for you...
22:58.46leno29and you can explaine me in what mode i can automating it?
23:02.17RPleno29: Familiar no longer uses openemdedded so I'm not sure this is the right place to ask for help with familiar
23:15.30helgeDRP: I just sent off my mail with patch for poodle to you.
23:18.04RPhelgeD: ok, thanks. I'll have a look shortly
23:27.40LaibschGNUtoo-laptop: I am seeing the same problem and it prevents me from building an opie-image
23:28.04GNUtoo-laptopLaibsch, wow we are 2 now...and i also want to build opie-image
23:29.45LaibschWell, I think there are more than just the two of us
23:29.52Laibschhttp://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2721 might be interesting, too
23:29.59GNUtoo-laptopLaibsch, thanks
23:31.08Laibschwvdschel has seen the problem, too, I think
23:34.01Laibschxjqian|away: Did you successfully compile opie-taskbar-images?
23:34.11GNUtoo-laptopis http://bugs.openembedded.org down?
23:34.17Laibschuse .net
23:34.32GNUtoo-laptopthanks

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