IRC log for #oe on 20080227

00:05.18CIA-3803likewise 07org.oe.dev * r4f9025ff... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): libzvbi: inherit from pkgconfig so that .pc is staged.
00:05.23CIA-3803rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rfe54e422... 10/ (1 classes/seppuku.bbclass classes/tinderclient.bbclass): seppuku.bbclass/tinderclient.bbclass: Use exec_func, not exec_task for clean function
00:05.28CIA-3803rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r24fc5bcb... 10/ (1 classes/rm_work.bbclass): rm_work.bbclass: Add event handler to take care of removing stamps when trying to rebuild packages after sources have been removed. Needs bitbake 1.8 svn to have any effect.
00:05.33CIA-3803rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r91782f0e... 10/ (1 classes/base.bbclass):
00:05.33CIA-38base.bbclass: Add code to make 'rebuild' continue to work after changes in
00:05.33CIA-38bitbake. Bitbake 1.8.10 users should be unaffected, bitbake 1.8.11 users will
00:05.33CIA-38need the latest svn stable branch bitbake. Only the rebuild task is affected by
00:05.34CIA-38the changes
00:05.45CIA-3803xora 07org.oe.dev * rbde94cf8... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
00:05.45CIA-38pulseaudio* : fix the adding of pulse to audio group, busybox does this
00:05.46CIA-38arse about tit.
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00:37.10antthesing: are you lurking?
00:37.19antthesing: klibc-config-eabi.patch needs first line removed
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01:02.51CIA-3803tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * rcfb3fb43... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): libxml2: fix URIs
01:02.57CIA-3803tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r582866c5... 10/ (1 packages/dreambox/dreambox-dvb-modules.bb): dreambox-dvb-modules: dm800 support
01:03.00CIA-3803tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * rbaa17179... 10/ (5 files in 5 dirs): base-files: fix usbfs entry
01:03.04CIA-3803tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r5d4bb6b6... 10/ (1 packages/dreambox/dreambox-dvbincludes.bb): dreambox-dvbincludes: dm800,dm8000 support
01:03.08CIA-3803tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r0605c809... 10/ (1 packages/dreambox/dreambox-secondstage.bb): dreambox-secondstage: dm8000,dm800 support
01:03.12CIA-3803tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r09973bd8... 10/ (12 files in 12 dirs): add dm800 support
01:03.16CIA-3803tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r4fbb8333... 10/ (15 files in 3 dirs): linux-dm800: add support for dreambox dm800
01:03.19CIA-3803tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r00dee604... 10/ (1 packages/enigma2/enigma2.bb): enigma2: add dm800,dm8000 support
01:03.23CIA-3803tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * rd0574b34... 10/ (1 packages/images/dreambox-image.bb): dreambox-image: add dm800 support
01:03.27CIA-3803tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r8ad83d52... 10/ (1 packages/tuxbox/tuxbox-libtuxtxt.bb): tuxbox-libtuxtxt: support for dm800
01:03.30CIA-3803tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * rb81ee91d... 10/ (1 conf/machine/dm800.conf): conf/machine/dm800.conf: add BOOTSTRAP_EXTRA_DEPENDS
01:03.35CIA-3803Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r0ed9d9e6... 10/ (1 packages/libmrss/files/better-parse-url-r0.patch): libmrss: document the acceptance of better-parse-url-r0.patch into upstream cvs
01:06.44CIA-3803tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r76e80b5a... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): file: add 4.20
01:11.51CIA-3803tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * rb0c91a58... 10/ (1 packages/hotplug-ng/hotplug-ng.bb): hotplug-ng: add hotplug-ng from http://hotplug-ng.schwerkraft.elitedvb.net/
01:11.55CIA-3803tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r195e59f1... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): file,file-native: move to 4.23
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02:01.44dmfreyphilippe: thanks for your suggestion before (find . -type f -name "Makefile.am" | xargs grep "/usr/include")
02:01.49dmfreyi had to step a way for a bit
02:02.18philippedmfrey: ok. I have been looking into it myself, but it seems to be more subtle. Unless you found something I missed
02:02.36dmfreynope, didn't find the problem
02:03.04dmfreywhen I review my config.log, i get 3 locations where the Badness occurs
02:03.17dmfreythey are odd programs too, like fgrep
02:04.30dmfreywould it be beneficial to remove all of the Makefile* files and regenerate them again?
02:05.12philippedmfrey: I already tried.
02:05.38dmfreyphilippe; ok
02:07.54philippedmfrey: to be honest I do not know what happened
02:08.39dmfreyi have been looking at this package for a few weeks now trying to understand what is wrong with it
02:08.51dmfreywhat about pulling from cvs?
02:09.24philippedmfrey: you could try that, Don't know what it is going to do
02:09.39philippebut I guess there is a reason why icecast is in nonworking
02:09.56dmfreyphilippe: just drawing at straws :(
02:17.09dmfreyphilippe: i was looking for any file that could possibly be inserting a host-based reference
02:17.21dmfreybut nothing
02:18.22philippedmfrey: same here
02:18.58philippebecause looking at other config.log files the configure_qa does not complain, while /usr/include is in those too
02:20.12dmfreyi just did a quick recipe for ices as well, same issue
02:20.37dmfreysomething is up with xiph packages
02:21.36philippedmfrey: I'll look into it some more tomorrow
02:21.42philippeI need to go to sleep now
02:23.09dmfreyphilippe: thanks for your help.  Have a good night
02:25.32dmfreyphilippe: one more thing...this only appears to be an issue with building these two packages with OE.  In my old buildroot environment, these issues built without issue.  Just an FYI
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08:42.14XorAmorning
08:43.42gremlin[it]morning XorA
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09:09.11methrilmorning
09:11.46pbne04hm when I bitbake an image recipe, it doesnt produce a uImage file
09:11.47pbne04what am I missing?
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09:20.55CIA-3803xora 07org.oe.dev * r79453456... 10/ (9 files in 4 dirs):
09:20.55CIA-38xserver-kdrive_1.3.0.0.bb : remove glamo from xserver-kdrive, next commit
09:20.55CIA-38will create new recipe for it.
09:21.00CIA-3803xora 07org.oe.dev * rb2173b2f... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-xserver/xserver-kdrive-glamo_1.3.0.0+git.bb):
09:21.00CIA-38xserver-kdrive-glamo_1.3.0.0+git.bb : an Xglamo recipe on its own pulling
09:21.00CIA-38from the developers git tree directly.
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09:33.52hrwmorning
09:33.55hrwXorA: http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news_details.php?id=15572
09:34.29XorAhrw: GREAT!!!!!
09:35.06hrw;)
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10:09.14pbne04where do I find a list of the values I can use for TARGET_OS and others when I wanna change local.conf in build/conf?
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10:38.32XorApbne04: you probably want to put DISTRO="angstrom-2008.1" and not mess with TARGET_OS at all
10:43.04lumagmorning there!
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11:03.29mrt2k7hi all, I created a qemux86 kernel and rootfs with OE, but I'm not clever enough to boot them in qemu. most probably I just lack a bootloader yet?
11:04.06hrwyou need poky-qemu script
11:04.08mrt2k7when I do $ qemu foo.bin foo.ext2, qemu says it can't read from hda
11:04.17mrt2k7I tried that too
11:04.41mrt2k7it seems to freeze qemu
11:05.05mrt2k7I get to the >qemu  prompt, but i can't input anything
11:06.13mrt2k7hm ok now its not freezing qemu
11:06.27mrt2k7it says uncompressing linux...ok....
11:06.37mrt2k7but then: BUG: Int 6: CR2 0000....
11:07.19hrwmrt2k7: qemu -kernel zImage -std-vga -hda image.ext2 -usb -usbdevice wacom-tablet --append "root=/dev/hda"
11:07.56mrt2k7did that...
11:08.01mrt2k7but i have a bzImage
11:08.06mrt2k7could that be a problem?
11:08.09hrwit can be bzImage
11:08.12mrt2k7ok
11:08.29mrt2k7hmmm
11:09.06mrt2k7theres a warning at booting: "WARNING: Ancient bootloader, some funct. my be limited!"
11:10.13lumaghrw: did you see the bug 3879?
11:10.32hrwlumag: sorry but I lack time to watch OE progress/bugs
11:10.56mrt2k7interestingly I can boot the poky-image blinky
11:10.58lumaghrw: a baby? How is it to be a father? :)
11:11.41hrwlumag: baby is one thing. I also bought car recently and have important projects in work queue
11:12.13lumaghrw: ok
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12:02.11mrt2k7re
12:02.20mrt2k7I can boot a vmware kernel in qemu
12:02.47mrt2k7but it cant find the rootfs...i'm appending root=/dev/hda
12:03.24mrt2k7"unable to mount root fs on unkown-block(0,0)"
12:03.54mrt2k7is 0,0 this grub terminology, like hd(0,0)?
12:04.11CIA-3803rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rcb2e1d76... 10/ (1 site/common-glibc): site/common-glibc: Set ac_cv_type_uid_t since autoconf detects it incorrectly
12:04.16CIA-3803rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r5934a535... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): libsdl: Remove PATH setting from sdl.m4, it breaks things
12:04.24CIA-3803rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rb8e6db78... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): prboom: Remove incorrect sdl parameter from EXTRA_OECONF, m4 patch and custom configure function since sdl.m4 now works properly
12:04.28mrt2k7i can loop-mount the ext2 image without problems
12:04.30CIA-3803rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * reefe1e61... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): frodo-4.2: Remove bogus configure option and patch since sdl.m4 is fixed
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12:21.07shrihow does anyone measure the read/write speeds of filesystems
12:21.13NAbyss_shri: dd
12:21.52NAbyss_shri: dd if=/dev/zero of=/big/file bs=2048 count=1000000000000
12:21.57NAbyss_Then just send it a sigusr1
12:23.45shrisomething better than dd, which measure r/w speeds over a long period of time, dd may be inaccurate
12:24.03shrii am trying to measure r/w speeds of my mmc driver
12:24.35shrii tried using iozone, but  i dont know how to interpret the results
12:24.40NAbyss_That's why you use a large file that's substantially bigger than your RAM, so caching the final part won't distort the readings
12:28.15hrwshri: iozone, bonnie++ etc?
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12:30.01shrii tried iozone having trouble interpreting the results
12:30.46hrwI never used it
12:31.12mwester-tripI confess to using bonnie++
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12:38.13shrithe problem is interpreting the results takes time, you get all sorts of data
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12:53.15tcooksey_Could anyone tell me where STAGING_DIR_NATIVE is set please?
12:54.29Jin^eLDtcooksey_: check bitbake.conf
12:54.49ynezzcd OE; grep STAGING_DIR_NATIVE . -R | less
12:54.49tcooksey_thx
12:54.53ynezzgeneric way :p
12:59.14tcooksey_Jin^eLD: ynezz: thx... Am using Gumstix's OE collection - which seems to be a bit out-of-date and doesn't set STAGING_DIR_NATIVE
12:59.58ynezzhm, I don't have any gumstix yet
13:00.00Jin^eLDI'm not familiar with it, sorry
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13:02.32tcooksey_Does anyone know why qmake & friends are split out into seperate packages?
13:03.03mickeylbecause there are packages using qmake, but not uic or moc
13:03.12mickeyllikewise, there are packages using uic and moc, but not qmake
13:03.17mickeyletc.
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13:04.26tcooksey_fair enough, bt they could be built as part of the qt* packages? Just because they've been built doesn't mean they have to be used?
13:05.06mickeylno, that doesn't make sense
13:05.13mickeylthey would step on each other's toe in STAGING then
13:05.20mickeylqmake provides qmake
13:05.23mickeyluicmoc provides uic and moc
13:05.25mickeylqt provides qt
13:05.43mickeylsince qt DEPENDS on uicmoc and qmake, there should be no problems
13:05.58mickeylwhat's the actual problem you're facing?
13:06.01tcooksey_qt provides qmake, uic * moc?
13:06.19Sup3rkiddohi all, will OM apply as a mentor organisation for the gsoc?
13:06.23tcooksey_I'm writing qt/embedded 4.4 recipies
13:06.49Sup3rkiddooops...wrong window
13:07.05mickeylgood, then you can build qt/embedded which in turn DEPENDS on qmake and uicmoc IIRC
13:07.39tcooksey_well, 4.4.0-beta1 recipies to be precice. The configure scipt has changed quite a bit in 4.4 and the OE patches to disable qmake etc from being built don't apply
13:08.05mickeylah. could you patch them?
13:08.13tcooksey_patch the patch?
13:08.16tcooksey_:-)
13:08.19mickeylyea
13:08.32tcooksey_feels... ugly. :-(
13:08.37mickeylwell
13:08.44mickeylgenerating new patches as a result of course
13:09.13tcooksey_could do. The other problem is that qt 4.4 needs qmake from qt 4.4 to build
13:09.16mickeylgenerally, qt's buildsystem still is pretty ignorant about cross compiling. they could do us a favour if they would not assume that they generate their own tools during the build process
13:09.41mickeyltcooksey_: then you need to update qmake2
13:09.43pb_g'day mickeyl
13:09.50mickeylhi pb_ !
13:09.56tcooksey_& mocuic
13:10.03mickeyltcooksey_: if necessary, yes.
13:10.16tcooksey_and do it in a way that doesn't interfere with older versions
13:10.17mickeylhowever i would be surprised if they have changed so much
13:10.34mickeylwe compile uic, moc, qmake from qt 4.x, x being only slightly less than 4
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13:10.41pb_mickeyl: my gpe-image build has completed successfully :-)
13:10.54pb_sadly mythfront-image has failed due to some openchrome problem, but I can fix that one.
13:10.57mickeylso if they did a whole lot of incompatible changes, I'd be very surprised if they did not update the major version number
13:11.02mickeylpb_: oh, that's good news! congrats
13:12.01tcooksey_I'll persevere, but I still don't understand why qt can't provide qmake, uic & moc
13:12.09pb_mickeyl: heh, ueberhacker zecke did most of the hard work
13:12.26mickeyltcooksey_: because
13:12.29mickeyla) we have multiple qt versions
13:12.35mickeylb) people are using qmake but not qt
13:13.19mickeylc) we have to support multiple qmake versions
13:14.00mickeylwe need to ensure we are using the same tools
13:14.18mickeylwe can not allow qt using different tools as applications basing on qt
13:14.20mickeylthis will lead to chaos
13:14.24mickeylso our way is much cleaner
13:14.56mickeyltrust me, we came from having qt provide everything... it didn't work. splitting it up was painful, but it works very solid nowadays
13:15.33mickeylnote also that we need to support build machines without X installed
13:15.48mickeylwhich is why we actually build qmake from qt/e
13:15.51mickeylqmake-native, that is
13:16.34tcooksey_ok.. will attempt to continue with current structure. I've spoken to trolls about splitting qmake & friends into seperate packages and their point was that qt needs the version of the tools it was shipped with to build itself, so why not just bundle them all together
13:16.50mickeylyes, that's the general attitude of trolltech
13:16.58mickeylbeing very ignorant about cross compiling
13:17.09mickeyli'm sorry to say that but they have no clue about build systems
13:17.24mickeylthe ./configure alone is a mess
13:17.43tcooksey_well, cross-compiling qtopia core seems to work ok. They have political issues for cross-compiling qt/x11
13:17.56mickeylbrisbane does not improve the situation by forking their own product (qmake)
13:18.30mickeyltrue, but OE does not care about political issues. we care about reproducing builds
13:18.52mickeylplease try to base on what we have now
13:19.01mickeyland we'll help you once you run into problems
13:19.24mickeylthe current resident qt expert is on his way to Taipei but will probably be online again soon
13:19.37tcooksey_z?
13:19.39mickeylya
13:19.57mickeyli did all the initial work in splitting that stuff up
13:20.07mickeylbut lost interest after a couple of years with nothing but problems with TT Brisbane
13:20.11tcooksey_he seems pretty busy the few times I've spoken with him.
13:20.12mickeyl*shrug*
13:20.31mickeyltrue
13:20.51mickeylbut he's going to be paid to resolve qtopia build problems now
13:20.57mickeylso this is absolutely on topic ;)
13:21.48tcooksey_LOL... while porting qtopia to qt/x11 will solve these kind of build issues... not sure it really counts!
13:22.03mickeyl*nod*
13:22.10mickeylthe whole future of qtopia is completely unclear if you ask me
13:22.15mickeylbut we'll wait and see
13:22.37tcooksey_no comment. :-)
13:22.42mickeylof course ;)
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13:23.32mickeyli just know that getting qtopia into OE would very likely refreshen developer interest in it
13:23.41mickeylso it's very important for people who care about it
13:23.57mickeyland that's why I'm encouraging everything interested
13:24.02mickeyleveryone, even
13:24.22mickeyl[having my UI agnostic OE hat on]
13:24.29tcooksey_btw: there's some patches I'm not sure are doing the right thing in qt4... *-host-includes seems odd
13:25.22mickeylhmm
13:25.24ynezzDo you plan to use Qtopia on Gumstix?
13:25.27mickeyllooks perfectly good to me
13:25.38tcooksey_why would you want to include the hosts's freetype headers over the ones in OE?
13:25.39mickeyl- TRY_INCLUDEPATHS = /include /usr/include $$QMAKE_INCDIR $$QMAKE_INCDIR_X11 $$INCLUDEPATH
13:25.39mickeyl+    TRY_INCLUDEPATHS = $$QMAKE_INCDIR $$QMAKE_INCDIR_X11 $$INCLUDEPATH
13:25.41dtahtbotmickeyl: Error: "TRY_INCLUDEPATHS" is not a valid command.
13:25.48mickeylmakes much sense to me
13:25.53mickeylwe have to forbid using host includes
13:26.35tcooksey_ah yes... got my -/+ mixed up when looking at the diff...
13:27.23tcooksey_EUGHHH.... that's disgusting... configure _forces_ non-prefixed include paths...
13:28.39tcooksey_ok, not discusting... it's only used when not cross-compiling
13:28.48tcooksey_huh
13:29.15mickeylactually i don't know whether we are telling configure that this is a cross-compile or not, because IIRC we had rpoblems with configure's idea of a cross compile.
13:29.34mickeylbut i have not looked at that for over a year
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13:31.43tcooksey_most of the OE patches seem to be there to 1) split out tools and 2) allow cross-compiling of qt/x11
13:33.03XorAmickeyl: I think we tell it its compiling on TARGET to get around qtopia trying to be too smart, I had the problem that this did not work on qtopia-phone
13:33.22XorAmickeyl: so qtopia-phone knows it is cross compiled, qtopia-core doesnt
13:33.39mickeylrighto
13:34.13XorAmickeyl: either that or I misunderstood the whole process (perfectly plausible)
13:35.22tcooksey_is there anyway of getting my 4.4 recipie to replace 0003-no-tools.patch
13:35.25XorAmickeyl: BTW your rotation problem on gta02 should be fixed by checkin I did to OE this morning
13:35.54mickeyltcooksey_: sure. just make a directory that has your version number encoded
13:36.08mickeylthis will be preferred over a directory with only ${PN}
13:36.15mickeyle.g. name it ${PN}-${PV}
13:36.28mickeylXorA: right, the git version ,thans
13:36.35mickeylXorA: i'll rebuild from scratch later today
13:36.44mickeylXorA: BT seems to work here as well, but i have problems with WiFi
13:36.44XorAmickeyl: and I turned off tick tick tick in gsmd init script
13:36.54mickeylgood
13:36.57XorAmickeyl: I have no BT radio, wifi doesnt accept keys
13:37.10tcooksey_so qt4/qt-embedded-linux/0003-no-tools.patch will replace qt4/files/0003-no-tools.patch?
13:37.30XorAmickeyl: and I fixed pulse s/adduser/addgoup/ :-D
13:37.53mickeyltcooksey_: kind of
13:37.57mickeylsay your new recipe is called
13:38.02mickeylqt-embedded-linux_4.4.0
13:38.07mickeylthen create a directory called
13:38.10mickeylqt-embedded-linux-4.4.0
13:38.13mickeylthis will be preferred over
13:38.15mickeylqt-embedded-linux
13:38.16mickeyland
13:38.17mickeylfiles
13:38.33mickeylurghsd
13:38.42mickeylpaxutils native wants to install into /usr/bin etc.
13:38.45mickeyl*sigh*
13:39.58rschusterregarding qt. I will be messing today around getting qtjambi into OE :)
13:40.07mickeylcool
13:40.26tcooksey_so files in qt-embedded-linux won't be prefered over files in files? I have to append the version?
13:40.59mickeylyou don't have to
13:41.04mickeylit will work without
13:41.08mickeyl${PN} is more specific than files
13:41.15XorAtcooksey_: the more specific the directory name to higher the priority, so lowest is files, then qt-embedded-linux, then qt-embedded-linux-4.4.4
13:41.15mickeyli just think it's clearer
13:41.57tcooksey_righto... thx
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13:56.09tcooksey_mickeyl: Next question... why patch the existing mkspecs/common/* rather than just create a new mkspec for the OE toolchain?
13:56.54tcooksey_(this is 0005-fix-mkspecs.patch I'm talking about)
13:57.45mickeylgood question
13:57.52mickeylwe do create own mkspecs
13:57.55mickeyl(see qmake2-native)
13:58.06tcooksey_yeah... which makes sense
13:58.30mickeylthis patch might either be bitrotten or due to the fact that for some reason someone could not get our mkspecs to be used
13:59.23XorAone gotcha I found for mkspecs was they have to only contain a maximum of 3 - signs :-)
14:00.18tcooksey_as in "foo---bar" is an invalid token?
14:00.51XorAoe-linux-g++ is ok, arm-gnueabi-linux-g++ is not
14:02.20tcooksey_looking at qmake_base.bbclass, the makespec is passed to qmake via a command line arg, I can't see how this can not work?
14:02.49tcooksey_XorA: what do you mean when you say arm-gnueabi-linux-g++ isn't ok?
14:03.48XorAtcooksey_: make a directoy called that and things go wrong :-(
14:04.07tcooksey_why would OE use such a makespec... surely oe-linux-g++ is always used as the makespec passed into qmake?
14:06.19tcooksey_ah, ok... so it will be *linux-oe-g++|*linux-uclibc-oe-g++|*linux-gnueabi-oe-g++|*linux-uclibcgnueabi-oe-g++
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14:09.35aadamsonmickeyl: were you able to make the required changes so that busybox and tinylogin would ipkg install on the nslu2 slugos? I checked yesterday and it still won't install due to that conflict that we discussed
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14:10.10CIA-3803mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * re2f4456d... 10/ (1 packages/pax-utils/pax-utils-native_0.1.13.bb): pax-utils-native: yank do_install
14:10.30mickeylaadamson: unfortunately i had zero time to do it while i was on FOSDEM. sorry, this is on my agenda for today
14:10.35CIA-3803koen 07org.oe.angstrom-2007.12-stable * r3165c781... 10/ (45 files in 12 dirs):
14:10.35CIA-38backports from .dev: applied gcc and metatoolchain updates
14:10.35CIA-38* http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/angstrom-distro-devel/2008-February/001901.html
14:10.35CIA-38* http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/angstrom-distro-devel/2008-February/001902.html
14:10.57aadamsonah, yes, FOSDEM, no problem just saw you on here and thot I'd check... Thanks again for all the help!
14:11.14Jin^eLDmhm.. still trying to build uclinux stuff... I am using global CFLAGS settings like: CFLAGS_uclinux-uclibcgnueabi_append=" -Dfork=vfork -Wl,-elf2flt ", however I figure that gcc should not be compiled using those settings
14:11.30Jin^eLDis there a way to somehow say "do not apply these appends to certain packages"
14:11.39Jin^eLDor do I have to add some magic to the gcc .bb recipes?
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14:25.55Jin^eLDhmm, oe website down?
14:26.19Jin^eLDI can ping the server but no website when trying from firefox..
14:26.49Jin^eLDah, now it came back.. must be connection issues or whatever
14:31.01tcooksey_mickeyl: XorA: The OE installs mkspecs for each libc/abi it supports and those mkspecs just inherit the common mkspecs, hence the need to patch the common mkspecs. :-)
14:31.21mickeylaah, right. good catch
14:32.00tcooksey_well.. technically OE cought it when it failed to build. :-D
14:33.40tcooksey_still don't understand why there needs to be a seperate mkspec for each lib/abi rather than just an uber oe-g++ mkspec, but past caring at this point.
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14:55.04mrt2k7hi? can anybody help me with with my shiny new OE-rootfs and kernel? how do you make the results of bitbake task-bootstrap actually bootable?
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14:56.27Jin^eLDmrt2k7: what distro were you building for?
14:57.11Jin^eLDusually you build a console-image or minimal-image or whatever and depending on your hardware you can use the result to boot via NFS if you're developing or flash it or whatever
15:00.06mrt2k7i build an image for vmware
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15:00.13mrt2k7distro generic i think
15:00.50mrt2k7i would like to add a bootloader like lilo or grub
15:00.55Jin^eLDI did not play around with it, but check your deploy directory and look what kind of image has been produced
15:01.09mrt2k7yeah theres a bzImage and a rootfs
15:01.35broonie~lart people sending e-mails with borked clocks
15:01.35ibotplops people sending e-mails with borked clocks into a giant vat of herring
15:02.27Jin^eLDyou'd probably have to boot from some CD so you can install grub or something, I did not try running x86 OE images in vmware
15:02.56CIA-3803mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rfaf71c56... 10/ (10 files in 4 dirs): python 2.5.1 upgrade to 2.5.2
15:03.03CIA-3803mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r442fae6a... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): add pyneod, remove python-fso-pyproto
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15:06.11RPDo we really need 17 different versions of pvrusb-mci?
15:12.16mickeylmost likely no
15:15.22RPrwhitby: It seems slugos is the main user of pvrusb-mci?
15:16.16rwhitbyRP: that would be peripherally true, yes.  i.e. it's a package that someone once wanted added to SlugOS, cause you can use a PVRUSB thingo attached to a slug.
15:16.31rwhitbyso the latest would be fine for us.
15:16.40rwhitbyand I have no way of testing that :-)
15:17.12RPrwhitby: Can you confirm that you're using 20060903 ?
15:20.09rwhitbyRP: actually, I can confirm that pvrusb-mci is listed in BROKEN_PACKAGES at the moment in slugos, and has been for some time, so we are not actually supporting it at the moment.
15:20.22chouimat|workmorning
15:20.24rwhitbyso any version that builds with recent kernels would be a step forward for us.
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15:38.43hvontres|workCrofton: Morning. Feeling any better?
15:38.51RPrwhitby: ah, right. I really don't want to get too involved in fixing lots of things atm :/
15:38.51Croftonyeah
15:38.53Croftonslowly
15:38.58Croftonbrain is not as foggy
15:41.54RPrwhitby: 20080210 builds...
15:42.23rwhitbyRP: feel free to remove the others then.
15:46.42TartarusAnyone around that feels empowered to review udev or samba patches?
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15:48.41RPrwhitby: 2008 added and everything but the last 2006 dropped
15:48.58hvontres|workCrofton: Where would you like me to send you my mailing address?
15:49.05rwhitbyRP: sweet, thx.  will test a build tonight.
15:49.50RPIts so easy to get sidetracked when fixing these STAGING_DIR references :/
15:51.21Croftonjust msg'd my emai
15:53.40methrilbye
15:54.42RPHas anyone noticed the parsing speedups?
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15:55.44RPThe boost recipe has "PACKAGES =\n"  in it :/
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16:03.54hvontres|workRP: Do I need to use svn head for that
16:04.02RPhvontres|work: yes
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16:06.15hvontres|workRP: testing now
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16:19.52hvontres|workRP: old 181 s, new 136 s for full parse of .dev :)
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16:37.17tcooksey_hiya... me again. :-) Having troubles with missing includes for dbus
16:37.51tcooksey_specifically, dbus-arch-deps.h does not make it into ${STAGING_INCDIR}/dbus-1.0
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16:44.00mrt2k7there's bootimg.bbclass, but docs don't say where to include it in my conf
16:53.00rschusterthe "intltoolize" binary is provided by which OE package?
16:53.13mickeylintltool-native
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16:54.09rschustermickeyl: thanks
16:55.13ant|workhi all, somebody can help with klibc?
16:56.08ant|workI'm poking with initramfs-images and I fear the latest thesing's commit (eabi patch) broke it...
16:57.28ant|work~seen thesing
16:57.34ibotthesing <n=tkunze@BAA3d60.baa.pppool.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 1d 3h 26s ago, saying: 'morning'.
17:04.15TartarusAnyone around who feels empowered to review samba or udev changes?
17:05.01mickeylbest put it forwards to the list
17:05.06ant|workTartarus: I'll try your patches as soon as possible (over VPN)
17:05.15Tartarusant|work, thanks
17:05.26mickeyland/or attach to bugzilla
17:06.00Tartarusmickey|sports, is attached :)
17:06.40ant|workTartarus: [ebuild   R   ] net-fs/samba-3.0.28
17:06.54ant|workTartarus: should I expect issues from that version?
17:07.31Tartarusant|work, er?  I didn't see 3.0.28 in OE when I did my patches
17:07.47ant|worknoo, on the remote host (my office)
17:07.56Tartarusok
17:08.09TartarusI still don't follow, sorry :)  We should ad a recipe for 3
17:08.21ant|workTartarus: I'll test smbclient
17:08.27Tartarus.0.28 as well, and it would have the smbfs/cifs bugs if based on the other oens
17:08.40Tartarusok
17:08.44ant|workagainst my remote samba server on Gentoo
17:08.49TartarusAh
17:08.55ant|workover VPN router-router
17:08.57Tartarusthe problem is how we package it up for the targets
17:09.03Tartaruskeep in mind :)
17:09.05Tartarusbut yes
17:09.07ant|workk
17:09.26Tartarusyou don't even need a samba server to see the problem actually
17:09.36Tartarusmount -t smb / mount -t smbfs gets upset before even trying ot mount
17:09.43ant|workI see
17:09.52Tartarus(or rather, its failing to find mount.smb/mount.smbfs and stopping there)
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17:44.30RPhvontres|work: A 25% speedup is rather nice, thanks for the figures :)
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20:46.21gremlin[it]hi all
20:46.35philippehi gremlin[it]
20:47.41gremlin[it]I have a question, suppose some package are available as precompiled only (.ipkg) ... what's the best way to make this package be included in an image i'm building ?
20:47.43pb__hi gremlin[it]
20:48.07gremlin[it]1) have a "fake" recipe that just download the prebuild.ipkg ?
20:48.22gremlin[it]2) is already available some way in OE ?
20:48.29gremlin[it]hi pb__ !!!
20:49.28pb__gremlin[it]: I guess you could copy the .ipk files into the deploy directory by hand and then set ASSUME_PROVIDED to stop oe trying to rebuild them.
20:50.44gremlin[it]mhhh if suck prebuild package isn't available in normal way in OE ... is simple (not difficult) to write a "fake" recipe i suppose ...
20:50.54gremlin[it]fi suck -> if such ...
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20:51.08pb__yeah, that would work too
20:51.19pb__I don't know of any dedicated mechanism for using prebuilt binaries
20:52.07gremlin[it]should exist something but for binary archive ... not a prebuild package i thing
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21:35.41tre9I'm new to oe.  I only used oe once to build a rootfs for gumstix.  Is building for another platform just a matter of running "bitbake htcblueangel" or do I need to get some other configuration files?
21:36.23RPtre9: You probably want to change MACHINE
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21:36.51tre9ah, ok thanks.  but nothing else to install?
21:37.23RPtre9: I'm don't know the gumstix setup well but probably not
21:37.59Fiquetre9: most of the top level build configs are done through the local.conf that you set up
21:38.52Fiquetre9: then when you do a bitbake XX it will pull the appropriate files for your machine
21:39.01Fiquehopefully :)
21:41.05tre9my local.conf doesn't have much in it http://pastebin.ca/921201
21:41.32tre9there's some gumstix-specific settings in site.conf
21:42.26tre9http://pastebin.ca/921205
21:42.40Fiquedid you work off the local.conf.example file in the org.oe tree?
21:43.20Fiqueerr org.openembedded.dev/conf/local.conf.sample
21:43.35Fiqueyou will see options for MACHINE
21:43.45Fiquelike RP was referring too
21:43.51tre9not sure, it seems that gumstix has done some of the configuration.
21:44.43Fiquewhich gumstiks platform are you using?
21:44.46tre9MACHINE is set to "gumstix-custom-verdex" in auto.conf
21:45.13RPtre9: auto.conf is probably generated by one of the gumstix scripts. You need to change that variable
21:45.23Fiqueyeah I'm not familiar with setting up gumstix through their scripts, I did everything by hand
21:45.37Fiqueif you look at org.openembedded.org/conf/machine
21:45.59Fiqueyou will find gumstix-connex, gumstix-custom-connex, and others
21:46.13Fiquehello cbrake
21:48.16tre9RP: ok, thanks.
21:49.44cbrakeFique: hello
21:50.14Fiquecbrake: just wanted to thank you again for all the cm-x270 help
21:50.22cbrakeFique: sure
21:50.31cbrakeFique: pushing 2.6.24 support shortly :-)
21:50.35Croftontre9, for the gumstix oe system you should ask in #gumstix
21:50.47Fiquecbrake: awesome... id be willing to help again with PCI testing, i've had it working fine for 2.6.23
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21:56.39tre9ok, looks like I set MACHINE = "htcblueangel" and it will get other conf from org.openembedded.snapshot/conf/machine/htcblueangel.conf
21:57.34cbrakeFique: good point.  Refresh my memory -- was it just a few defconfig changes, or was more required to get PCI going?
21:57.46tre9Crofton: thanks for the tip.  I'll check there too.
21:58.12Croftonthey use a snapshot of the OE metadata and have local fixes for gumstix cards
21:58.56tre9will that be a problem for me when I build for a non-gumstix machine?
21:59.09Croftonyes
21:59.21Croftonbecause we can't help you with problems :)
21:59.27CroftonWhat are you trying to do?
21:59.57tre9I want to build for a handheld device (HTC blueangel)
22:00.11Croftonwhy did you start with the gumstix stuff then?
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22:01.55tre9I also have a gumstix platform I need to build.
22:01.59Croftonah
22:02.06Croftonfor same app ?
22:02.56tre9I need the whole rootfs. no custom apps.
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22:03.18rschusterI need to set QTDIR for a library that needs the qt4 headers. Can I safely set this to some dir within ${STAGING_INCDIR}?
22:03.27Croftonbut you run on gumstix and htc machine
22:03.50Croftonif the files in the gumstix snapshot are OK, you should be fine
22:03.55tre9yes.
22:04.08Croftonbasically try it and see what happens
22:04.30Croftonwe get along well with the gumstix guys, so we can do what we can
22:05.23RPrschuster: There are qt classes which set that variable iirc
22:05.44RPrschuster: It seems to default to qt2 in bitbake.conf though, I was just looking at that
22:07.09rschusterRP: hm, some bbclasses reference QTDIR ..
22:07.21pH5chinook-compat produces libstdc++6_3.4.4+csl-arm-2005q3, ITOS2008 has libstc++6_3.4.4cs2005q3.2-5.osso8. is there a way to build kobodeluxe so that I don't have to --force-depends it on the n810?
22:08.05tre9Crofton: ok.  sakoman's tutorial was easy to follow.  gave me courage to try oe. :)  now I need to take the next step.
22:08.06rschusterpH5: unfortunately not yet. there was a proposal on the list to make version numbers overridable. that would fix it
22:09.08Croftonwell welcome aboard
22:09.58RPrschuster: I think that proposal won't work due to the weird locations the version ends up :/
22:10.01CroftonHe is trying to get up to the Angtstrom stable branch, which will help some by giving us a route from .dev to stable to him
22:10.24RPrschuster: Its an interesting idea though
22:11.03RPrschuster: I was the one who fixed a large number of package renaming bugs, the thought of doing it again for version numbers scares me ;-)
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22:20.12pH5I see, that's a pity. What's the alternative? Setting PV_chinook-compat="3.4.4cs2005q3.2-5.osso8" in gcc_csl-arm-2005q3.bb?
22:21.14tre9#oe is very helpful.  Thanks.  I'll probably be back with more questions.
22:21.19pH5Doesn't sound too clean, we probably don't want to litter core recipes with distro overrides :)
22:25.11Fiquecbrake: sorry for the delay, went out to pick up lunch.  But its defconfig changes, one file addition thats missing in the tarball, and finally one function parameter change in an IDE driver file
22:25.29Fiquecbrake: and thats it
22:28.05cdbot2* * OE Bug 3889 has been created by <OE-Autobuilder>
22:28.07cdbot2* * ppp-dialin-0.1-r4-do_install
22:28.08cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3889
22:29.23rschusterpH5: no not a good idea. I still think we need the version override thing :|
22:30.51cbrakeFique: ahh, yes just found your email you sent some time ago
22:31.21cbrakeFique: I'll try to include these changes in the 2.6.24 stuff I push tomorrow.  If you have any updates or anything you want changed, feel free to send it.
22:31.41Fiquecbrake: please test though, I can't verify anything with 2.6.24
22:32.00Fiquecbrake: or i'll test it myself when its pushed
22:32.05cdbot2* * OE Bug 3890 has been created by <OE-Autobuilder>
22:32.07cdbot2* * libxinerama-1.0.2-r3-do_populate_staging
22:32.09cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3890
22:32.16cbrakeFique: will do -- at least that it does not break any of more normal usage patterns
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23:08.56CIA-3803tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r56c92928... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): dreambox-dvb-tools{,-v3}: fix qmake file to not link qte
23:09.01CIA-3803thebohemian 07org.oe.dev * rb2b754e5... 10/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
23:09.01CIA-38classpath-minimal 0.97: Added recipe.
23:09.01CIA-38classpath 0.97: Added recipe.
23:09.01CIA-38classpath: Added proper RPROVIDES for ${PN}-common.
23:10.08rwhitbyRP: Error: packages/pvrusb2-mci/pvrusb2-mci-20080210/Makefile.patch not found.
23:10.29RPrwhitby: oops
23:10.54rwhitbydon't you just hate mtn add ;-)
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23:11.16RPrwhitby: yes ;-)
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23:15.39ant_thesing: I had some minor issues with klibc yesterday (the eabi patch was not applied)
23:16.20ant_thesing: then there were bigger problems with busybox-static
23:17.10dmfreyhey philippe are you there?
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23:23.15ant_RP: bitbake seems stalling on "NOTE: Executing runqueue". /tmp is empty.
23:23.29ant_RP: fresh build
23:24.24ant_RP: http://www.pastebin.ca/921338
23:25.36ant_RP: 10818 andrea    20   0  182m 128m 2216 R  100  6.4   6:05.78 python    
23:30.19RPant_: no idea :/
23:30.43ant_RP: python is eating 1367M virt
23:31.05RPant_: Its obviously spinning out of control in some circular loop
23:31.21ant_RP: was working until I wiped /tmp
23:31.29RPant_: What were your building?
23:31.34RPs/your/you/
23:31.39ant_initramfs under uclibc
23:32.03ant_then I prefer restart from scratch
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23:36.18ant_RP: if I kill it with ctrl+C python should spit out some traces...
23:36.42RPant_: It does it here too which should help the debugging
23:38.30RPIts spinning in check_stamps() :/
23:45.10CIA-3803rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r4e74a697... 10/ (1 packages/pvrusb2-mci/pvrusb2-mci-20080210/Makefile.patch): pvrusb2-mci: Add missing patch
23:50.54CIA-3803rpurdie * r1022 10/ (4 files in 4 dirs): fetch/__init__.py: Make fetcher timestamp updating non-fatal when permissions don't allow updates
23:51.33CIA-3803rpurdie * r1023 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): runqueue.py: Fix recursive looping issue
23:52.41RPant_: That should fix it
23:55.01ant_indeed, thx
23:56.30ant_RP: about uclibc build, I think it somehow contaminated my staging
23:56.53RPant_: entirely possible
23:57.18ant_RP: ANGSTROM_MODE=uclibc IMAGE_FSTYPES="cpio.gz" bitbake -crebuild initramfs-bootmenu-image built
23:57.48ant_RP: with errors :(
23:58.03ant_RP: initramfs-kexec-images built fine :)
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