IRC log for #oe on 20080417

00:06.18thesingnight all
00:24.44scanthi Crofton
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07:23.07henomis79Hi, I have a problem building OE for x86...are there someone can help me?
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07:38.36methrilhenomis79 simply ask
07:39.38henomis79thanks
07:39.43henomis79well..
07:40.46henomis79I would build OE for a generic x86 machine (qemux86?) but with x-server-xorg and not x-server-kdrive
07:42.37CMhenomis79: Maybe you should look at this page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Host-based_development_with_Xoo_and_Xephyr
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07:43.23stelioskhenomis : change the PREFFERED_PROVIDER to PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/xserver ?= "xserver-xorg" for starters
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07:44.18henomis79steliosk: done. but I have some error on compiling
07:44.35stelioskwhich distro ? which branch
07:44.38steliosk?
07:46.12henomis79steliosk:  I'm following the instructions at http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted
07:46.22henomis79with org.openembedded.dev
07:46.28henomis79anche distro generic
07:46.32henomis79and
07:46.50stelioskdistro generic does not build
07:46.54stelioskuse angstrom
07:47.06henomis79MACHINE=x86
07:49.04stelioskand once you change distro make sure wou wipe your tmp dir
07:49.04henomis79DISTRO = "angstrom-2008.1" ?
07:49.41stelioskyes
07:50.49stelioskhenomis : FYI http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom
07:51.00stelioskto see the settings to build it
07:51.48henomis79I'll setup DISTRO = "angstrom-2008.1" ; MACHINE = x86 ; PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/xserver ?= "xserver-xorg"
07:52.33henomis79and witch argument must i pass to bitbake?   $ bitbake gpe-image ??
07:53.19stelioskbitbake base-image ; bitbake console-image ; bitbake x11-image
07:53.19stelioskStep 5
07:53.29steliosklooks at the like
07:53.36steliosks/like/link
07:54.47henomis79good. Thanks
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08:26.39Genesisbonjour !
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09:21.47hrwmorning
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09:35.12methrilmorning
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09:53.20floriangood morning
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10:24.32hrw~curse OpenEmbedded PR department
10:24.33ibotMay you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, OpenEmbedded PR department !
10:24.39hrwhttp://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS9696858938.html
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11:06.39CIA-2103koen 07org.oe.dev * r0889940e... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-xserver/xserver-kdrive_1.4.99.901.bb): xserver-kdrive 1.4.99.901: disable w100
11:06.54methrilhrw ?? what does that means?
11:07.15methrilit's a nice arch, but it has some purpouse? :)
11:08.00hrwmethril: OE lack PR department. When I read LD there are lot of posts from TimeSys, MontaVista about new things they support. Often OE also supports them but no info ever came about it
11:08.42methrilthnks :)
11:09.11XorAhrw: time for us to form one I thinks
11:12.08XorAhrw: but instead of relying on one or two people all interested should join, if two people write same release then we can always combine them
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11:56.36CIA-2103tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * re5009f1f... 10/ (13 files in 3 dirs): autoconf: add 2.61
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12:01.37shazHi everyone
12:03.13shazI am having problems with bitbake
12:03.21shazwant to use it as root
12:03.45shazit has to do with sanity.conf but don't know how to
12:03.57XorAdont run it as root
12:03.59XorAthats crazy
12:04.02Jin^eLDyou should never use it as root
12:04.04Jin^eLDyeah
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12:07.19shazbefore this I had some other wierd problem that was ":'FetchData' object has no attribute 'tag'
12:07.19shaz"
12:07.48XorAsounds like bitbake version isnt upto date
12:07.55shazthen I did mtn update and here I am with root not being allowed
12:07.55XorA1.8.10 is AFAIR the latest
12:08.12shazSo howto update
12:08.28XorAgo back to www.openembedded.org/GettingStarted
12:08.35shaz:)
12:09.07XorAbut running OE as root is really dangerous, some stupid makefiles do stuff like rm -rf /usr/xxx
12:09.12CMpokes shaz with a root
12:09.32XorAand we cant always catch them all :-)
12:09.43XorAlike pokemon
12:10.11shazso no one is going to tell me how to do it with root .... fine
12:10.38hrwshaz: it is easy to use bitbake as root
12:10.40XorAshaz: nope, we done want sued when you lose / :-)
12:10.49hrwfirst step is "rm -rf /"
12:10.54Jin^eLDshaz: is there any particular reason why you want to run it as root?
12:10.59Jin^eLDhrw :))
12:11.19shazI can't create another user. Its boring ;)
12:11.30hrwI have to add one day recipe for it
12:11.50hrwif uid = 0 then add 'rm-all-and-tell-why-root-is-bad' recipe
12:12.03shazok Ok
12:12.08shazI get it
12:12.32hrwshaz: building software as root is always risky
12:12.48hrwshaz: I assume that you have strong win32 history - right?
12:12.50ynezzwindows-everybody-administrator-badness
12:14.26shazI guess you are right. I should give up using root.
12:15.43Jin^eLDbtw, since there's talk about the root thing :> I have a little problem related to taht... the image produced by OE contains /dev entries, if I unpack the tar as user those dev entries are not created/can not be unpacked, if I use fakeroot they are unpacked but are not dev entries but just touched text files or something
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12:16.08Jin^eLDbut I guess there must be a way since OE manages to make a tar with those dev entries without superuser priveleges
12:16.10Jin^eLDany hints?
12:16.56shazThe error stated that a change in /oe/conf/sanity.conf can do it
12:17.21shazI was'nt able to get anything out of it
12:18.11shazNow as an unpreviliged user I get more errors
12:19.43hrwshaz: stop using redora3.7 then
12:20.10shazI use fedora 6
12:20.33Jin^eLDshaz: I also use fedora 6 as well as fedora 7
12:20.41hrwand error is about missing /dev/oe7 entry?
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12:21.11zarathhi there
12:21.24Jin^eLDhrw: is it my client or are your messages messed up? "<hrw> and error is about missing /dev/oe7 entry?" <- /dev/oe7 entry??
12:22.57hrwJin^eLD: I suspect that this is error which shaz gets
12:23.06Jin^eLDoh, sorry
12:23.12Jin^eLDwhat is /dev/oe7 ?
12:23.16hrwJin^eLD: no idea
12:23.18Jin^eLDI thought that was some kind of typo :)
12:23.28hrwJin^eLD: it is his error
12:23.49Jin^eLDoh
12:25.30hrwbut thats only guess as he prefer to not share error informations
12:26.21Jin^eLD:>
12:27.31shazI am comming to that its just that I am not used to non root usage and can't get to redirect stderr to a file at the moment
12:27.37shazplz dont laugh
12:27.49shazI can be more smarter at time
12:28.26hrwshaz: ok, I just have seen too many users which complained but never told what breaks
12:28.38XorAshaz: dont forget to chown -R <user>:<group> any directories you tried to use as root
12:28.58XorAhrw: I thought you were taking PR lessons from koen there :-)
12:29.25shazthanx because I was about to make my normal user to share uid with root
12:29.36shaz;)
12:29.57XorAshaz: you a windows guy by trade?
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12:30.17shazboth
12:30.19hrwXorA: Koen can learn from me ;D
12:30.36XorAshaz: :-D
12:31.46CroftonI'm not certain our Cortex-A8 support is 100% yet
12:31.57zarathi'm having ERROR: EOL while scanning single-quoted string (line 1) while parsing /opt/deuta-p4//org.openembedded.stable/packages/maemo4/hildo
12:32.00zarathn-1_svn.bb
12:32.15zaratherrors with org.openembedded.stable
12:32.19zarathany clue?
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12:33.18XorACrofton: doesnt matter, Ill bet MV's isnt either, they will use the support money to complete it like any other toolchain developer
12:34.18hrwzarath: your distro does not include conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc - right?
12:34.53zarathi will have a look
12:35.29zarathi have them
12:35.42zarathbut maybee they are too old?
12:36.14hrwor do not contain hildon line
12:37.13hrw~curse monotone 'speed'
12:37.14ibotMay the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, monotone 'speed' !
12:37.46shazhere it is after some delays http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=m1c20166d
12:39.13zarathi have copied  distro/include/ from org.openembedded.stable to be up to date now
12:39.21zarathbut same truble
12:39.27CroftonXorA, funny, I had the exact same thought
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12:40.13CIA-2103hrw 07org.oe.dev * ree3ad249... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): util-macros: added forgotten patch for 1.1.6
12:40.45shazI am trying some more on intuition till get some expert opinion from you guys
12:41.02XorAshaz: use pastebin and show your errors
12:41.08XorAshaz: they are probably quite simple
12:41.25XorAshaz: sorry I missed URL
12:42.05shazNo problem I do it all the time
12:42.11XorAshaz: you missed a 2>&1 before that >/tmp/err
12:42.24XorAshaz: error stream is missing and I cant decode without it
12:42.36hrwshaz: http://pokylinux.org/ -> support -> handbook - this will give you nice document to read about OE/Poky
12:42.43hrw-> shop
12:43.07shazok but let me do one more pastebin posting before going to that
12:44.46shaznow this can be more useful: http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=m5f785374
12:45.54XorABBPATH in environment is wrong
12:46.17shaznow thats a funny one let me check
12:46.25XorAshaz: btw if you are building openmoko, then MokoMakefile makes it easy
12:46.47shazI had a much more problems with it then this
12:46.50zarathXorA: BBPATH at my env?
12:47.01XorAzarath: that was for shaz
12:47.13zarathah, ok
12:49.08shazBBPATH seems to be fine according to my small understanding
12:49.57XorAmine is /home/dp/openmoko/build-xora:/home/dp/openmoko/org.openmoko.xora.qtopia as an examplew
12:50.21XorAand BBFILES BBFILES := "${HOME}/openmoko/org.openmoko.xora.qtopia/packages/*/*.bb"
12:50.26XorAto match
12:50.52CMshaz: How can the makefile be more complicated? I've used it a lot, and it's definitely easier for a newbie
12:52.09shazBy the way now that I've done all the openmoko downloading and oe downloading and monotone and bitbake so do you still recommend I go back to makefile
12:53.00XorAshaz: stick with what makes you happy, should be one simple config to get what you have got working
12:53.09shaz?
12:53.37XorAshaz: I have a 4 line config and one env variable set to build openmoko
12:53.49shazI don't have BBFILES
12:54.02shazhow do you do that with 4 lines
12:54.17XorAshaz: gimme a sec, Ill pastebin my local.conf
12:54.28shazhey I've done that
12:54.43XorAhttp://www.pastebin.ca/988263
12:54.53shazI followed openmoko wiki from scratch
12:54.57zarathXorA: my shame, I haven't adjusted bbpath
12:54.58shazlet me see ...
12:55.10XorAzarath: wow fixed your problem by fluke :-)
12:56.01zarathyes, why can't life ever be so easy...
12:56.08methrilopenmoko wiki from scratch it's out to date
12:56.34XorAyeah I need time to fix that wiki page, seems some crazies from community put a lot of wierd stuff in it
12:57.02CMshaz: Maybe give the makefile a chance, starting in a new directory and just copying the OE.mtn.bz2 file into it
12:57.14methrili was trying it some times and then, as  i didn't have enough time, i'll try with mokomakefile and it works perfectly :)
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12:57.52shazmy local.conf is http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=d5c09785
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12:58.35shazI followed the wiki very carefully
12:58.41XorAshaz: take mine, set appropriate paths
12:58.59XorAshaz: last I looked at wiki some crazy had written random wrongness all over it
12:59.06XorAshaz: this is the problem with wikis
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12:59.52shazok thanx. I'll try this and let you know.
13:00.03XorAshaz: or give me ssh access :-)
13:00.24CMXorA: As root, of course.. ;)
13:00.39methrilhahaha
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13:04.57hrw|afkXorA: use 'protect' option more often?
13:05.21XorAhrw|afk: eh?
13:06.08hrwXorA: 'protect' is option (for mediawiki admins) to disable editing by non-admins
13:06.31XorAhrw: bah, Im not a media wiki admin and have no wish to be
13:06.36hrwXorA: but I suspect that no one in openmoko works as such one
13:07.26mwestergood mornin'
13:07.32hrwhi mwester
13:08.38CIA-2103hrw 07org.oe.dev * rb96f9f2c... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-lib/libx11-native_1.1.4.bb): libx11-native 1.1.4: do not provide libx11
13:22.51hrwboost buildsystem is insane
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13:27.01mwesterboost is really quite over-the-top, IMO ;)
13:31.04CMcompiling blas atlas is a real pain too, but you sure get optimized libs
13:31.37hrwafter few months I left openmoko-devel
13:32.00methrilwhy?
13:32.03mwesterthe mailing list you mean?
13:32.05methrilhrw?
13:32.20hrwirc channel
13:32.58hrw<PROTECTED>
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13:35.29hrwI am losing faith when it comes to openmoko
13:36.17mwesterdecides not to say anything, because it seems to get him in trouble so often. ;)
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13:37.19XorAshoots mwester for not being the messenger
13:37.33hrwmwester: I feel that they like to reinvent everything each few months
13:37.45hrwthen GTA02 will hit mass market and fail
13:39.29hrwor will be bought by geeks only so there will be some cash for GTA03 which will end also as geeks only due to GSM modem taken from Nokia 3310 (instead of TI Calypso from 2000 year)
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13:39.57hrwaccording to TI Calypso NDA documentation it is 2000 year chip
13:41.37hrwdoes FIC found few boxes with them in basement during cleaning?
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13:55.57XorAI think they stole them from the Klingons over the road
14:00.34hrw;D
14:01.10hrw~curse boost
14:01.10ibotMay the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, boost !
14:02.37mwesterIt's good for something -- I build the boost libraries and mythtv as a stress test whenever I have hardware changes on my server.  :)
14:04.10hrwbut it nearly does not build in Oe
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14:29.07XorACrofton: your a fedora guy? seen issues with gmp-native?
14:29.30CroftonI don't think so
14:29.34Croftonhow recently?
14:29.55XorAwell an OM user with Fedora is having problems, seems fedora gcc does the wrong thing
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14:30.50johncyleeCrofton: it seems whatever version of gcc on fedora will emit wrong result when parsing gmp.h.  that makes an inline function not inline so we have multiple definitions of the same function
14:30.50hrwXorA: s/OM user/OM developer/
14:31.21Croftonhmmm
14:31.31Croftonwhich Fedora?
14:31.40XorAjohncylee: which fedora?
14:31.43CroftonI have been building stuff on 7 and 8 without issues
14:32.03Croftonthis is building the tool chain?
14:32.55johncyleeCrofton XorA: I'm looking at the output of gcc -E now
14:33.07Croftonok, I can fire off a new build
14:33.33johncyleeCrofton: $ gcc --version   gcc (GCC) 4.3.0 20080404 (Red Hat 4.3.0-6)
14:33.58XorAjohncylee: that sounds worryingly like Redhat rawhide not Fedora
14:34.40Croftonyeah
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14:34.49mwesteralso builds without trouble on Fedora 6, 7, & 8 -- but not with 64-bit
14:34.52XorAFedora 8 wasnt released on 20080404 AFAIK
14:34.59Croftonmy F8 box runs 4.1.2
14:35.18CroftonI'm going to build a 9 box when it comes out
14:35.20hrwwhat about fedora 9 devel?
14:35.32Croftonwon't install on the new box I have
14:35.46XorAhrw: well the general thing here, is Im starting to see that all the "issues" are caused by using an unstable distro
14:36.09mwesterI couldn't get Fedora 9 beta to install either :(
14:37.04XorAusing rawhide is like using debian experimental
14:37.30hrwXorA: there is no such thing as debian experimental
14:37.47hrwdebian unstable + components from experimental you meant
14:38.44mwesterOh - the individual in question should be advised to not build locales, as fedora doesn't do that -- pro-actively would be good, I sense.
14:39.39Croftongood to have advance warning we may have issues building stuff with 4.3 though
14:40.13mwestera long ways to look to find the silver lining, though :D
14:41.14cedric_anyone know if this card works with current kernel/modules --> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/WiFi-WLAN-802-11b-g-CF-Compact-Flash-Card-Adaptor-PDA_W0QQitemZ300217031004QQihZ020QQcategoryZ58542QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
14:42.29johncyleeCrofton: turns out the gcc doesn't like extern __inline__
14:42.59Croftonwait
14:43.06CroftonI think there is a link to check
14:43.34hrwcedric_: with libertas_cs driver
14:43.59hrwcedric_: no idea how fast anyway - it was long time since I tested this card last time
14:44.42Croftonhttp://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-4.3/changes.html
14:44.58cedric_hrw: any issue with the driver, so which card do you recommend?
14:45.32CIA-2103xora 07org.oe.dev * rc56fffcb... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): xserver-kdrive_1.4.0.90.bb : add the no_kbd patch to this as well
14:45.54hrwcedric_: any prism2 based
14:46.12cedric_hrw: thx
14:46.28hrwcedric_: 2nd hand mostly
14:46.37hrwas no one produce them now rather
14:48.54Croftonme cat just licked my sff sdr board, it rebooted
14:49.39hrw'DD
14:49.47hrwCrofton: cat or board?
14:49.55Croftonboard
14:50.25CIA-2103xora 07org.oe.dev * rf2ab31a4... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
14:50.25CIA-21sane-srcrevs.inc : update gsmd svn revs, drop libgsmd-devel as it seems
14:50.25CIA-21to be not maintained and Im not doing it.
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15:49.26summatusmentishi mickeyl. Is it possible for us to talk after GSoC decisions are made about the decisions?
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15:49.26summatusmentiscrap, nvm, wrong channle
15:50.19mickeylgood question. i have no idea whether there's a policy for that. i can and will tell you my rating, but will not be able to disclose the others'
15:52.53alphaoneAFAIK it shouldn't be public. Google wants to announce it on 21st. Waiting and surprises are par for the course.
15:55.47mickeylsure, the ratings won't be public even after the 21st. nothing forbids me to disclose my rating though
15:56.54alphaoneNo, not at all.
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16:19.42hrwbye
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16:23.10Croftongn
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16:29.40ferret_0567How do I test building a cross compiler with OE?
16:29.45ferret_0567I have bitbake
16:33.31Croftonmickeyl, did you see the video link I posted of the guy talking about openmoko dev at FOSDEM?
16:34.31mickeylno. can you repaste please?
16:35.21ferret_0567NOTE: package gmp-native-4.2.1-r2: task do_compile: failed
16:35.24Croftonhttp://fosdem.org/2008/schedule/events/475
16:35.27ferret_0567how can I fix this?
16:35.37mickeylferret_0567: fedora?
16:35.40ferret_0567I tried to build helloworld-image
16:35.43ferret_0567mickeyl: arch linux
16:35.45Croftongcc 4.3?
16:36.03Croftonferret_0567, gcc -v
16:36.13ferret_0567(%:/home/travis/oe/stuff)- gcc --version
16:36.13ferret_0567gcc (GCC) 4.3.0
16:36.33Croftonmickeyl, I figured you would enjoy someone saying something nice for a cahnge
16:36.51Croftonferret_0567, there seems to be an issue compiling gmp with gcc 4.3
16:36.54mickeylCrofton: lovely, thanks a lot. i'll view that later today
16:36.58ferret_0567Crofton: :(
16:37.09Croftonwhat is gmp?
16:37.40ferret_0567I dunno, I just want it to compile
16:37.56mrt2k7lib for abitrary precision math i think
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17:06.18Jin^eLDhmm, is there a way to unpack a rootfs image without beeing root? the problem is that the /dev/ entries are not being created
17:06.40Jin^eLDi.e.: tar: ./dev/ram3: Cannot mknod: Operation not permitted
17:08.34pH5Jin^eLD: fakeroot, of course then the device nodes will be simple files instead
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17:09.00Jin^eLDpH5: well that's the problem - then they will not work if I try to use this as NFS rootfs
17:09.01Jin^eLDright?
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17:09.24pH5Jin^eLD: right..
17:09.47Jin^eLDis there any way to allow ppl without root access to get and unpack a rootfs image?
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17:09.55mwesterNope.
17:10.05mwesterThat would be a HUGE security hole.
17:10.54Jin^eLDmhm, ok thx
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18:22.21thesinghi everybody
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18:28.33mwester'allo mr. thesing
18:30.08thesingis anything new going on? Like we change SCM to cvs? ;)
18:33.19XorA|gonethesing: we voted to change to VSS
18:33.42mwesterI think we couldn't agree, so we have to settle for the lowest-common-denominator, and we're going to use the VMS filenameing conventions:  FILENAME.TXT;1
18:34.45thesingVMS is an ancient ibm os? But what is VSS?
18:35.16XorA|goneRP: anyone o-hand ways worked out why matchbox keyboard doesnt work on kdrive 1.4 yet?
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18:35.44mwester:)  VMS was Digital Equipment Corp's OS for the DEC VAX minicomputers; VSS is microsoft's version of SCCS (Visual Source Safe)
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18:36.14XorA|goneused to use VMS at uni
18:36.37thesingXorA|gone: how old are you?
18:36.46XorA|gonethesing: 32
18:37.12chouimat|workwas lucky enough to no use it
18:37.41mwesterVMS had a long run.  I used it right out of college
18:37.48XorA|goneVMS was pretty cool
18:38.30mwesterIt was very good, as far as minicomputer OS's go.  I worked for Prime Computer, and worked on PRIMOS -- we studied VMS to keep up on what our competitor was doing.
18:39.01XorA|goneI just remeber writing stuff in that crazy assed scripting language
18:39.10XorA|goneand dealing with mounted drives
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19:52.07VoodooZyipee! 2.6.25 is out... :)
19:52.19VoodooZI'm mostly interested in the new RT stuff..
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20:40.01kario_Olimex SAM9-L9260 (AT91SAM9260) vs. TS-7260 (EP9302). application is solar powered PWS / home automation controller
20:41.58gremlin[it]sam9 are new processors ... cirrus ep93xx have some years ...
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20:53.32JohnFlux_Hey all
21:02.28flo_laphi JohnFlux_
21:03.04JohnFlux_I'm playing with OE for the first time today
21:03.08JohnFlux_It's really nice :)
21:03.19JohnFlux_although quite a few packages don't compile for my gumstix :)
21:03.50JohnFlux_I want to try to stream my webcam over the network.  any suggestions on what I might be able to use?
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