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| 05:25.26 | steliosk | Laibsch : can't remember working on php's autoconf... :( |
| 05:26.36 | steliosk | Laibsch : and the patch does not look like mine. r u sure ? |
| 05:27.22 | steliosk | Laibsch : in any case push it with a PREFERED VERSION=-1 and enable it only for the machine you have tested it on |
| 05:28.03 | steliosk | Laibsch : this would allow others to test it also without breaking the existing,working php |
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| 07:56.55 | khem | hi I am tryin to build target toolchain (gcc, binutils) along with minimal-image what is best way to go for it. Is there any meta package I can use ? |
| 07:58.14 | ScaredyCat | you want to build the toolchain to run on the neo..? |
| 07:58.35 | khem | yeah something similar not necessarily on neo |
| 07:59.02 | khem | right now I am doing crudely by building each package separately |
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| 08:01.24 | ScaredyCat | take a look at openembedded/packages/images and openembedded/packages/tasks |
| 08:01.39 | ScaredyCat | there's a minimal image already.. |
| 08:02.00 | ScaredyCat | you can create youself a task list too and put it in a local overlay |
| 08:02.04 | khem | task-openmoko-toolchain-target.bb |
| 08:02.20 | khem | is something I want for angstrom |
| 08:02.32 | khem | yeah that's what I am gonna do |
| 08:04.17 | khem | yeah there is nothing predefined |
| 08:04.46 | khem | for what I need so I will create one |
| 08:06.10 | khem | task-openmoko-native-sdk is more closer to what I am looking for |
| 08:06.36 | ScaredyCat | don't you want openmoko-sdk-image ? |
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| 08:07.20 | ScaredyCat | he |
| 08:07.24 | khem | :) |
| 08:07.30 | khem | well obviously |
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| 08:08.32 | khem | but that will create a whole lot of openmoko which I do not need |
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| 08:11.47 | hrw | morning |
| 08:11.54 | hrw | khem: you want task-sdk-native |
| 08:12.09 | hrw | or task-native-sdk -- I do not remember exact name |
| 08:12.09 | khem | hrw: ah moin moin |
| 08:13.39 | hrw | I created it over year ago when did experiment with self-hosting angstrom |
| 08:13.42 | khem | looks in package/tasks but do not find any native sdk except openmoko |
| 08:14.25 | Genesis | hi |
| 08:14.49 | hrw | task-self-hosting? |
| 08:15.19 | khem | task-native-sdk.bb |
| 08:16.21 | hrw | ~curse mtn log for needing --no-merges --no-graph to be usabl |
| 08:16.21 | ibot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, mtn log for needing --no-merges --no-graph to be usabl ! |
| 08:16.21 | hrw | e |
| 08:16.27 | khem | hmmm its glibc oriented I will tweak it to make work on uclibc |
| 08:16.37 | hrw | Author: hrw@openembedded.org |
| 08:16.37 | hrw | Date: 2006-10-03T10:17:15 |
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| 08:17.02 | hrw | khem: only libc6-dev needs to be replaced iirc |
| 08:17.17 | khem | yeah *tweak* |
| 08:17.38 | hrw | should not be complicated |
| 08:17.43 | khem | sure |
| 08:18.24 | khem | hrw: do i have to do something special to INSTALL it |
| 08:18.47 | khem | if I like adding it to minimal-image |
| 08:18.49 | hrw | into image? |
| 08:18.56 | khem | yes |
| 08:19.08 | khem | I am tryin to make a testbed for toolchain |
| 08:19.15 | hrw | create minimal-with-native-sdk-image which will have require minimal-image.bb IMAGE_INSTALL += "task-native-sdk" |
| 08:19.40 | khem | thought so |
| 08:20.34 | khem | creates minimal-native-sdk-image.bb |
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| 08:22.04 | CIA-21 | glibc_2.6.1.bb: fix powerpc/soft-float builds |
| 08:22.04 | CIA-21 | * fixes errors message stating fe_nomask.o cannot be built |
| 08:22.04 | CIA-21 | * see http://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-ports/2007-06/msg00005.html |
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| 08:26.17 | khem | hrw: changing ${LIBC}-dev would be ok ? |
| 08:28.53 | hrw | what does set LIBC var? |
| 08:30.18 | khem | angstrom has ANGSTROM_MODE |
| 08:30.39 | khem | may be that can be used |
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| 08:33.09 | hrw | no |
| 08:33.10 | khem | hmmm but glibc one is called libc6-dev |
| 08:33.39 | khem | so won't work |
| 08:35.24 | khem | steal from require minimal-image.bb IMAGE_INSTALL += "task-native-sdk" |
| 08:35.34 | khem | oops I meant task-sdk.bb |
| 08:38.04 | khem | hrw: how does this look http://nopaste.org/p/aUk55oeBp |
| 08:38.56 | hrw | ok |
| 08:40.04 | khem | when eglibc is chosen then it provides glibc-dev too so all three libs are covered |
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| 08:42.28 | khem | time to sleep |
| 08:42.34 | khem | good night |
| 08:45.04 | hrw | bye khem |
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| 10:01.55 | CIA-21 | 03khem 07org.oe.dev * ra76532fd... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Bump eglibc svn to 2.8 |
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| 11:11.55 | Jin^eLD | did anyone try building for a Kathrein box? |
| 11:13.34 | hrw | what is it? |
| 11:13.45 | Jin^eLD | actually an sh4 based settop box |
| 11:14.08 | Jin^eLD | I did build something that did not want to run (tested by a user), so I guess I missed something |
| 11:14.40 | hrw | sh4... never tried |
| 11:14.51 | Jin^eLD | me neither, was the first try |
| 11:14.57 | Jin^eLD | everything did built, but did not work |
| 11:17.45 | Jin^eLD | and btw I hit a weird bug, not sure if OE orbitbake - if you try building the linux-libc-headers version 2.6.20 for sh4 - something called "conf" sits there with 99% CPU, when you kill it, bitbake spams the console with an error message which I hmm, pasted yesterday but do not have now :) basically related to defconfig it seems, some CONFIG_SH_something [] NEW option is printed |
| 11:17.49 | Jin^eLD | and then you have to kill bitbake to get out of it |
| 11:17.58 | Jin^eLD | .23 builds fine, so not sure what was wrong there |
| 11:19.20 | XorA | Jin^eLD: soulds like kernel style make oldconfig was waiting for a y/n answer |
| 11:19.54 | XorA | Jin^eLD: so I guess the .config is wrong |
| 11:20.27 | woglinde | mustn wrong |
| 11:20.31 | Jin^eLD | I see.. |
| 11:20.34 | woglinde | but with other kernel options |
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| 11:59.45 | magas | Jin^eLD: but Kathrein 910 UFS ? |
| 12:00.59 | Jin^eLD | magas: I think so, yes, i do not know which unit exactly the guy has, but its one of the kathrein boxes and he said it was an sh4 based one |
| 12:01.06 | Jin^eLD | are you familiar with it? |
| 12:02.01 | magas | yes, o own 910 , but the main part of this box ( pvrmain) is closed source |
| 12:02.30 | Jin^eLD | magas: the idea was to add a UPnP server so the recorded content is available to other UPnP players on the network |
| 12:02.37 | woglinde | yeah kathrein is violating the gpl |
| 12:02.56 | Jin^eLD | magas: did you build anything for your box using OE already? |
| 12:03.00 | magas | http://svn.ufs910.de/trac |
| 12:03.29 | magas | but i think this project is dead |
| 12:04.36 | Jin^eLD | well, I only want to compile a static binary using OE |
| 12:04.51 | Jin^eLD | but so far the sh4 thing that I did build coredumped on the box |
| 12:04.56 | Jin^eLD | so I guess I missed something |
| 12:06.12 | magas | http://ufs910.hdtvinfo.eu/component/option,com_remository/Itemid,28/func,fileinfo/id,71/ |
| 12:06.19 | magas | Kathrein 910 source code |
| 12:06.31 | magas | only kernel+ tools |
| 12:06.43 | Jin^eLD | let me see... |
| 12:09.26 | Jin^eLD | hmm, no toolchain there? |
| 12:11.20 | magas | no, others parts are closed source |
| 12:12.26 | Jin^eLD | but the chip is from ST, right? |
| 12:12.33 | Jin^eLD | so the compielr and everything should also be available there |
| 12:15.17 | magas | right |
| 12:17.51 | Jin^eLD | http://www.stlinux.com/download |
| 12:17.53 | Jin^eLD | hm |
| 12:18.03 | Jin^eLD | but OE can build for sh4, so I wonder if those extra things from ST are needed... |
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| 12:20.39 | Jin^eLD | ..a different topic :) oe stable, angstrom, arm9/uclibc - I was trying to build lmbench and it failed with: |
| 12:20.40 | Jin^eLD | | /tmp/ccrRNKB1.o: In function `seekto': |
| 12:20.40 | Jin^eLD | | disk.c:(.text+0x10): undefined reference to `llseek' |
| 12:20.52 | Jin^eLD | any ideas? |
| 12:21.17 | hrw | you lack syscalls |
| 12:21.28 | hrw | llseek is syscall5 |
| 12:21.38 | hrw | one of syscalls I mean |
| 12:21.41 | Jin^eLD | and why am I lacking them? |
| 12:21.48 | hrw | platform lack them |
| 12:22.02 | Jin^eLD | oh... you mean ARM generally does not have them? |
| 12:22.09 | hrw | we have patches in OE which adds them for some archs but I do not remember which component |
| 12:22.53 | Jin^eLD | mhm |
| 12:23.04 | hrw | you have kernel >2.6.20 and older code? |
| 12:23.12 | hrw | dosfstools/files/2.6.20-syscall.patch:-static _syscall5( int, _llseek, uint, fd, ulong, hi, ulong, lo, |
| 12:23.13 | Jin^eLD | 2.6.25 |
| 12:23.18 | hrw | parted/files/syscalls.h:#define _syscall5(type,name,type1,arg1,type2,arg2,type3,arg3,type4,arg4,type5,arg5) \ |
| 12:23.39 | hrw | linux/linux-jlime-jornada6xx-2.6.17/LinuxSH-2.6.17.patch:+ * include/asm-sh/unistd.h (_syscall5): Follow the change of ABI. |
| 12:23.48 | hrw | util-linux/files/glibc-fix.patch:+#ifdef _syscall5 |
| 12:24.10 | Jin^eLD | thanks... |
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| 12:42.37 | Jin^eLD | hrw: it was easier than tat |
| 12:42.39 | Jin^eLD | http://www.bitshrine.org/gpp/lmbench-3.0-a4-llseek.patch |
| 12:42.53 | Jin^eLD | I just had to adapt the patch to match the new version of lmbench, i.e. the line numbers |
| 12:43.36 | hrw | ;) |
| 12:43.53 | Jin^eLD | http://pastebin.mozilla.org/410052 |
| 12:44.25 | Jin^eLD | compiled with the patch above, will see if it runs/does what is expected |
| 12:44.48 | hrw | cool |
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| 12:46.50 | woglinde | *sigh* why trolltech nor openmoko compiled in the networkdrivers for qemu |
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| 13:07.58 | hrw | XorA: ping |
| 13:08.14 | XorA | hrw: yo |
| 13:08.28 | hrw | XorA: which srcrev works for linux-openmoko? |
| 13:08.39 | hrw | 3238 fails on patching |
| 13:09.05 | hrw | XorA: I want to update gta kernel in Poky |
| 13:09.13 | XorA | hrw: linux-openmoko is now git |
| 13:09.18 | XorA | hrw: see OE |
| 13:09.26 | hrw | XorA: not linux-openmoko_2.6.24.bb |
| 13:09.34 | XorA | 2.6.24+git |
| 13:09.38 | hrw | XorA: so I need linux-openmoko-devel as standard one? |
| 13:09.43 | XorA | swore he mtn dropped the old one |
| 13:10.08 | hrw | ok - will repull to be sure to be uptodate |
| 13:10.22 | hrw | mtn is so slow recently that I avoid using it |
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| 13:12.32 | cbrake | hrw: do you pull OE from the git repo? |
| 13:15.01 | hrw | cbrake: no |
| 13:15.11 | hrw | cbrake: git repo is not up-to-date automatically |
| 13:15.30 | hrw | cbrake: I just mostly use Poky now so OE is updated only when needed |
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| 13:19.21 | hrw | XorA: fetching git |
| 13:19.24 | hrw | thx |
| 13:19.29 | cbrake | notes the OE source is only 231MB |
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| 13:26.08 | ant|work | gm |
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| 14:07.54 | cbrake | is OE mtn repo working for anyone this morning? |
| 14:08.09 | cbrake | I've been connecting for 5 min or so ... |
| 14:08.28 | hrw | cbrake: I pulled fine |
| 14:08.35 | cbrake | restarts it ... |
| 14:09.35 | cbrake | http://openembedded.org/ is not loading either :-( |
| 14:10.46 | broonie | had a TCP timeout syncing with it earlier. |
| 14:11.03 | hrw | mtn: successful exchange with amethyst.openembedded.net |
| 14:11.34 | cbrake | must be on the wrong side of the Atlantic |
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| 14:13.28 | cbrake | ping works fine, but no response on other services |
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| 14:14.39 | hrw | -> food |
| 14:15.02 | cbrake | seriously considers starting to use Poky for future project work ... |
| 14:24.38 | hrw | cbrake: ;) |
| 14:26.54 | hrw | cbrake: can I ask what makes you consider switching? |
| 14:27.49 | cbrake | hrw: OE is looking less and less professional all the time -- I often have trouble accessing the web site and the mtn |
| 14:28.09 | cbrake | hrw: I could put up with it myself, but its becoming a hassle for customers |
| 14:28.29 | cbrake | hrw: for instance this morning, I'm trying to push a geode xorg driver out to one of my customers |
| 14:28.43 | cbrake | hrw: I was planning to just push it to the main oe repo, and then have them update |
| 14:28.58 | Crofton | notes that he can't pull either |
| 14:29.19 | cbrake | hrw: but for who knows why, I can't do that |
| 14:29.24 | hrw | cbrake: and as a result you will rather be forced to maintain own mtn(git/svn/etc) server |
| 14:29.27 | hrw | right? |
| 14:29.37 | Crofton | also observes that if everyone switched to poky, poky would morph into .dev |
| 14:30.04 | hrw | Crofton: poky commit rules are harder then OE ones |
| 14:30.08 | cbrake | hrw: yes, but at least I could do it easily in git |
| 14:30.23 | Crofton | my point is .dev would still have to exist somewhere |
| 14:30.37 | broonie | thought one of the big selling points of mtn was that it was easy to set up a server? |
| 14:30.39 | hrw | Crofton: and if some of our targets break we know this in <0.5h (incremental build) or next day (full builds) |
| 14:30.41 | cbrake | Crofton: agreed |
| 14:30.58 | RP | Crofton: Its not .dev thats the problem, its the presentation OE gives to the outside world and its services :/ |
| 14:31.23 | Crofton | rp agreed |
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| 14:31.37 | hrw | or lack of presentation |
| 14:31.56 | cbrake | RP: agreed -- I really like working with dev -- it works plenty well for me except for the server uptime/accessiblity |
| 14:32.14 | hrw | I once wrote that I am considering switching to 'developer' status to not have anything common with core OE |
| 14:32.22 | cbrake | broonie: the problem with setting up multiple servers is I don't like to be telling my customers every other day -- switch to this server, no now its this server, ok back to this one. |
| 14:32.33 | RP | I'm working on setting up a git trial, I've just not had time to sort it out yet |
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| 14:32.34 | cbrake | broonie: they don't want to mess with nonsense like that |
| 14:32.54 | broonie | cbrake: Right, I was mroe thinking the difficulty involved in you setting up a mtn server that you admin. |
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| 14:33.35 | cbrake | broonie: I already maintain my own svn and git servers for customer work -- I guess I should just bit the bullet and set up a mtn server too |
| 14:34.21 | hrw | cbrake: or use mtn2git sync script from contrib so your clients will have readonly git tree |
| 14:34.56 | cbrake | does anyone have any ideas why openembedded.org works in Europe and not the US today? |
| 14:35.05 | cbrake | hrw: is that reliable enough to use? |
| 14:35.14 | hrw | the problem with monotone is that it eats memory like crazy with OE database |
| 14:35.23 | hrw | cbrake: no idea - ask zecke as he wrote it |
| 14:37.52 | Crofton | thinks we need to start work on the infrastructure stuff sooner rather than later |
| 14:38.44 | broonie | cbrake: It's not .eu/.us - I can't get to it from .uk |
| 14:39.26 | Crofton | suspect round robin dns ... |
| 14:39.43 | cbrake | Crofton: should ping still work then? |
| 14:39.55 | hrw | cbrake: ping to amethyst? |
| 14:40.56 | cbrake | hrw: unknown host amethyst.openembedded.org |
| 14:41.06 | hrw | .net |
| 14:41.19 | hrw | .org/.net mess is another crap thing in Oe |
| 14:41.38 | cbrake | hrw: 156ms |
| 14:41.43 | hrw | I will run porno site on oe.someTLD one day |
| 14:44.45 | Genesis | could we clone it with monotone ? ;) |
| 14:44.58 | hrw | git only, sorry |
| 14:45.05 | Genesis | oki i prefer git :) |
| 14:45.18 | Crofton | well, I don't think we can wait for the eV |
| 14:45.27 | Crofton | this fixing stuff all the time is killing us |
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| 14:47.17 | RP | mickey|sick: :( |
| 14:47.37 | mickey|sick | thanks. my stomach is crazy today |
| 14:47.52 | Crofton | hmmm, I wonder if it is related to the mtn server ... |
| 14:48.08 | hrw | hi mickey|sick |
| 14:48.10 | cbrake | ahh, so linuxtogo is down -- does that still host the web site? |
| 14:48.16 | cbrake | (OE web site) |
| 14:48.22 | hrw | cbrake: it 'does' |
| 14:48.34 | RP | feels strange sitting still having travelled around a lot in the past few days |
| 14:48.46 | hrw | ltg host lot of things. just have 300% of cpu usage |
| 14:48.50 | cbrake | hrw: and no doubt responsible for mtn server DNS |
| 14:48.52 | mickey|sick | RP: i know that feeling |
| 14:49.10 | mickey|sick | any problems with the server? |
| 14:49.23 | mickey|sick | mtn pull --set-default amethyst.openembedded.net |
| 14:49.31 | sakoman | good morning! |
| 14:49.44 | Crofton | is glad to be sitting down instead of standing in a cow field in the rain drinking beer |
| 14:49.46 | hrw | mickey|sick: SNAFU |
| 14:49.48 | cbrake | mickey|sick: best I can tell, linuxtogo.org is down, thus the DNS for monotone.openembedded.org is down |
| 14:49.57 | sakoman | my .dev. pull/update yesterday broke dbus-native |
| 14:50.24 | sakoman | any idea if a fix has gone in? |
| 14:50.36 | sakoman | (for tose who can still pull/update :-) |
| 14:50.44 | Crofton | pulling from amethyst is working for me |
| 14:50.49 | broonie | too |
| 14:50.50 | cbrake | tries that |
| 14:51.03 | ant|work | sakoman: should be fine now |
| 14:51.16 | sakoman | trying again . . . |
| 14:51.32 | ant|work | but xserver-kdrive holds a heap of cruft |
| 14:51.36 | Crofton | amethyst collapses under the load of every dev pullign at once |
| 14:52.12 | mickey|sick | top - 16:54:37 up 53 days, 1:16, 2 users, load average: 0.10, 0.06, 0.01 |
| 14:52.25 | ant|work | XorA: you finally patched xserver-kdrive-1.4, isn't? |
| 14:52.55 | hrw | mickey|sick: check LTG |
| 14:53.00 | hrw | ~kick kergoth |
| 14:53.01 | ibot | ACTION kicks kergoth |
| 14:53.14 | hrw | ~kick OE e.V. too |
| 14:53.15 | ibot | ACTION kicks OE e.V. too |
| 14:53.20 | ant|work | XorA: on c7x0 I'm using xserver-kdrive-imageon and the angstrom .dev image misses touchscreen and some keys... |
| 14:54.22 | cbrake | so when are we moving http://www.openembedded.org and DNS to Mickey's server? |
| 14:54.33 | mickey|sick | cbrake: may |
| 14:54.37 | ant|work | XorA: so I suspect the same set of patches is needed...shame that now viewMTN is down and I cannot be precise... |
| 14:54.52 | mickey|sick | cbrake: or at the very latest, early july |
| 14:54.56 | mickey|sick | no, june is before july |
| 14:54.57 | Crofton | is not sure we should wait ... |
| 14:54.58 | mickey|sick | june, then |
| 14:55.19 | mickey|sick | well, we can always try to contact kergoth |
| 14:55.25 | cbrake | mickey|sick: ok, good. Let me know if there is anything I can do. |
| 14:55.35 | Crofton | mickey|sick, what are the issues? |
| 14:55.56 | Crofton | we need to xfer oe.org to the ev |
| 14:56.13 | Crofton | but do we need to do that to move servicees around? |
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| 14:56.34 | hrw | mickey|sick: s/can/should/ try to contact kergoth |
| 14:56.41 | mickey|sick | not necessarily. we could move the website over. the lists i'd love to keep @ ltg |
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| 14:58.02 | hrw | mickey|sick: overloaded LTG does not forward packages from monotone.oe -> amethyst |
| 14:58.23 | hrw | mickey|sick: it is sick situation when all needed to resolve it is get one person to change one dns entry |
| 14:58.38 | Crofton | we need to do some load balancing, otherwise we are going to lose "customers" |
| 15:00.07 | hrw | mickey|sick: and as a result we have openembedded.org which is official address and is DEAD, then we have monotone.openembedded.org which is also official and also DEAD. then we have amethyst.openembedded.net which is not official, not mentioned on DEAD website even so people have no idea does OE still exists or if it does they are not able to get metadata just because one CNAME is wrong |
| 15:00.09 | mickey|sick | i'll ask chris to change dns |
| 15:00.29 | mickey|sick | yo |
| 15:00.32 | mickey|sick | don't blame me |
| 15:00.40 | mickey|sick | if it was me, i wanted control over the zone 6 months ago |
| 15:00.53 | mickey|sick | i'll query it again. nothing more i can do |
| 15:00.55 | hrw | I will try to not mention server problems for next two months or so. |
| 15:01.08 | hrw | mickey|sick: I know that it is not your personal fault |
| 15:01.25 | hrw | it is just braindamaged situation which takes OE down slowly |
| 15:02.02 | hrw | when advanced OE devels consider using Poky instead of OE it is a sign that something is really going wrong |
| 15:03.24 | Jin^eLD | Poky uses svn, right? :> |
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| 15:04.30 | hrw | Jin^eLD: yes |
| 15:04.45 | mwester | Is there some technical issue in transfering ownership of a domain? I thought this was supposed to be a relatively painless process (it was when I transferred my domain) :( |
| 15:04.46 | hrw | Jin^eLD: we are considering switch to git |
| 15:05.03 | mickey|sick | mwester: the technical issue is you need permission from the owern :D |
| 15:05.04 | Crofton | mwester, we need the eV in place to transfer it too |
| 15:05.10 | Crofton | and that |
| 15:05.12 | Jin^eLD | hrw: well I was wondering why everyone is so obsessed with anything but not svn |
| 15:05.25 | Crofton | svn has it's own issues |
| 15:05.39 | mwester | Ok, so the problem is not technical in nature. I shall speculate no further. :( |
| 15:05.44 | hrw | Jin^eLD: for centralized development svn is ok. for distributed it is not |
| 15:05.55 | hrw | Jin^eLD: but git-svn connects both world ;) |
| 15:06.18 | Crofton | mwester, basically, boring PHB type tasks |
| 15:06.21 | Jin^eLD | hrw: you mean with git-svn you can simply use both, whatever you like and they get synced? |
| 15:07.20 | hrw | Jin^eLD: I use Poky via git-svn for ~month |
| 15:07.30 | Jin^eLD | nice |
| 15:07.44 | hrw | git branches helps |
| 15:08.10 | mickey|sick | fwiw, mail sent |
| 15:09.14 | hrw | mickey|sick: eV on linuxtag? |
| 15:09.29 | mickey|sick | visiting the lawyer, yes |
| 15:09.36 | mickey|sick | (if zecke organizes that) |
| 15:09.45 | mickey|sick | then collect paperwork and send it |
| 15:09.52 | mickey|sick | and then it should be done |
| 15:11.59 | CIA-21 | 03cbrake 07org.oe.dev * rf877dce7... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-driver/xf86-video-geode_2.8.0.bb): xf86-video-geode: add package |
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| 15:19.47 | CosmicPenguin | boggles |
| 15:19.50 | CosmicPenguin | cbrake: well done1 |
| 15:19.51 | CosmicPenguin | ! |
| 15:20.45 | ant|work | ~seen sirfred |
| 15:20.53 | ibot | sirfred <n=mteira@96.Red-83-63-214.staticIP.rima-tde.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 71d 16h 43m 9s ago, saying: 'bye'. |
| 15:21.21 | ant|work | ~seen zecke |
| 15:21.21 | ibot | zecke <n=ich@world221.mi.fu-berlin.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 5d 1h 31m 45s ago, saying: 'Crofton: well, you have to extend the outreach? apply at google for the moonbase?'. |
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| 15:25.59 | ant|work | RP: ping |
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| 15:26.42 | cbrake | CosmicPenguin: I think that was the easiest recipe I ever did :-) |
| 15:29.10 | CosmicPenguin | with that and the kernel stuff all upstream, the geode has a better then excellent chance at just working |
| 15:29.13 | CosmicPenguin | in OE that is |
| 15:29.41 | CosmicPenguin | and with 4.3.0 there is -march=geode, which makes all the ladies swoon |
| 15:29.52 | cbrake | CosmicPenguin: heh |
| 15:30.34 | CosmicPenguin | Now, if somebody with some python fu could add Sugar, then OE could build a better version of the OLPC image then OLPC can |
| 15:31.25 | chouimat|work | CosmicPenguin: here the danger of OLPC http://wulffmorgenthaler.com/strip.aspx?id=101f602f-a99f-4a6e-95d0-8911418de6ed |
| 15:31.54 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 15:32.40 | RP | CosmicPenguin: That would be nice to have, is that all thats missing? |
| 15:32.42 | RP | ant|work: pong |
| 15:33.14 | CosmicPenguin | RP: yep |
| 15:36.33 | woglinde | hm anyone knows how to set gdb so it continus on SIGILL? |
| 15:42.10 | mickey|sick | CosmicPenguin: i might take a look then. I guess there's my name on it ;) |
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| 15:51.59 | ant|work | RP: ping-pong |
| 15:53.03 | mrt2k7 | hello, anyone possibly having a hint for me? i'm using kdrive-vesa and icewm in qemu, building my own image derived from the angstrom distro. i can start X, but after the first input, it seems so hang |
| 15:53.22 | ant|work | RP: could you push 2.6.24 for c7x0 ? |
| 15:53.57 | mrt2k7 | i have kernel support for input devices and i can do stuff like cat /dev/input/mice |
| 15:55.02 | hrw | ant|work: .24 or .25? |
| 15:55.18 | ant|work | hrw: ;-) I did not dare |
| 15:55.43 | hrw | ant|work: .24 is in OE already |
| 15:56.06 | ant|work | hrw: the situation c7x0 in .dev is painful |
| 15:56.22 | ant|work | hrw: 2.6.23 suspends/resume probs |
| 15:56.38 | ant|work | hrw: 2.6.24 seems ok (but pref ver -1) |
| 15:56.43 | hrw | ant|work: less and less people work on kernels |
| 15:57.06 | ant|work | hrw: 2.6.24 had some nices improvements from sbrabec |
| 15:57.18 | ant|work | like sharp rc |
| 15:57.48 | ant|work | so everytime I build a dev image for c7x0 I have to patch the kernel |
| 15:58.10 | ant|work | and to hack the xserver-kdrive -> xserver-kdrive-imageon |
| 15:58.45 | ant|work | now, finally, xserver-kdrive 1.4 works in .dev ! Unbeliavable! |
| 15:58.53 | ant|work | after 4 months... |
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| 15:59.09 | ant|work | hrw: but hey, not on c7x0... |
| 16:00.00 | ant|work | perhaps I'm wrong insisting for Ximageon with xv acceleration... |
| 16:00.30 | ant|work | instead of plain xserver-kdrive |
| 16:01.49 | ant|work | hrw: If I'm not wrong Ximageon was nnounced for OZ 3.5.5... |
| 16:04.10 | Genesis | zecke : could you please give me the url of OE git tree ? |
| 16:04.18 | hrw | ant|work: oz 3.5.5 will never appear |
| 16:04.32 | ant|work | hrw: I mean 2-3 years ago |
| 16:04.53 | hrw | ant|work: I no longer support Zaurus devices - my c7x0 do not want to stay alive after boot - hangs |
| 16:05.20 | ant|work | hrw: I know, I guess we are 3 or 4 testers on c7x0 |
| 16:05.20 | zecke | Genesis: go to repo.or.cz |
| 16:05.25 | Genesis | thx |
| 16:05.30 | zecke | Genesis: s/the/a/ :) |
| 16:05.54 | zecke | RP: can you help me to get poky to built? is meta-toolchain-sdk supposed to work? |
| 16:06.01 | ant|work | zecke: you appears the co-mantainer for xsever-kdrive-imageon, isn't? |
| 16:06.58 | zecke | ant|work: no, not at all |
| 16:07.34 | ant|work | zecke: ah, I saw you after sirfred somewhere in the sources.... |
| 16:08.13 | zecke | ant|work: no. I only know that imageon is from AMD and used in a couple of Zaurii machines |
| 16:08.28 | hrw | bye all |
| 16:09.08 | ant|work | zecke: I suppose ATI W100 = imageon |
| 16:09.30 | ant|work | and is in some hp too |
| 16:12.23 | ant|work | DESCRIPTION_xserver-kdrive-w100 = "X server from freedesktop.org, supporting the ATI imageon w100 chipset" |
| 16:12.28 | ant|work | DESCRIPTION_xserver-kdrive-imageon = "X server from freedesktop.org, supporting the ATI imageon 100 chipset" |
| 16:12.37 | ant|work | why both? |
| 16:13.26 | zecke | ant|work: no idea, one using a proprietary library with microcode? the other doesnt? |
| 16:14.08 | ant|work | zecke: I suppose it is not like nv <-> nvidia |
| 16:14.49 | ant|work | imageon is claimed to support xv and xdamage, xrandr extensions |
| 16:15.03 | ant|work | so it's more an "extension" |
| 16:15.30 | ant|work | zecke: koen knows the answer |
| 16:16.49 | ant|work | but ignored my post on ml and nobody yet closed oebug 3428 |
| 16:17.21 | ant|work | koen did indeed recently upgrade xserver-kdrive to 1.4 (with XorA patches) |
| 16:19.04 | ant|work | and interestingly if you look ate the configure, w100 is not set....doh |
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| 16:21.27 | woglinde | hi ph5 |
| 16:22.13 | pH5 | hi woglinde |
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| 16:33.44 | ant|work | bbl |
| 16:34.51 | RP | hmm, zecke has gone :/ |
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| 17:17.06 | CM | Is angstrom-distribution.org down again or is it just me? |
| 17:18.33 | Jin^eLD | guys, what the hell is Processor : FA526id(wb) rev 1 (v4l) |
| 17:18.34 | Jin^eLD | ? |
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| 17:32.49 | magas | Jin^eLD: ARM |
| 17:32.49 | pH5 | Jin^eLD: http://www.faraday-tech.com/html/products/IP/processor/fa5_series.html |
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| 18:07.44 | cbrake | CosmicPenguin: is the NS GXM-233 a GX1 or GX2 processor? |
| 18:08.00 | CosmicPenguin | GX1 |
| 18:08.56 | cbrake | CosmicPenguin: ok, thanks |
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| 18:55.50 | cbrake | hmm, builds now hang for very long periods of time waiting for www.angstrom-distribution.org |
| 18:58.16 | ScaredyCat | slaps florian |
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| 19:27.01 | hrw|gone | cbrake: disable CVS_TARBALL_STASH |
| 19:27.20 | cbrake | hrw|gone: yeah, just figured that out -- thanks! |
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| 19:50.31 | Hrw | hi |
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| 20:02.47 | flo_lap | re |
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| 20:17.55 | codejunky | what is going on with openembedded.org? |
| 20:19.53 | kario | It works! |
| 20:19.57 | codejunky | :-) |
| 20:20.19 | Crofton | apparently we need to do some load balancing ... |
| 20:21.09 | codejunky | Okay, thx. |
| 20:21.33 | kario | somebody mentioned something about www.openemdded.org being behind some weirdo ssh tunnel setup |
| 20:21.44 | codejunky | hehe |
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| 20:23.56 | hrw|n810 | Crofton: we need servers |
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| 20:25.01 | kgilmer | hi...the site seems to be down and i have a question regarding defining a new target. is this the right place? |
| 20:25.14 | hrw|n810 | it is |
| 20:25.37 | hrw|n810 | suggests Poky handbook :) |
| 20:25.52 | mwester | I have a 1U rack server -- it's only a P-III, but it might be faster than the current server ;) :D |
| 20:26.01 | kgilmer | awesome. so I've built task-base for the generic distro on the imx31ads machine. |
| 20:26.17 | kgilmer | now i want to define my own so I copied them to new files |
| 20:26.29 | hrw|n810 | kgilmer: own what? |
| 20:26.43 | hrw|n810 | image? distro? |
| 20:27.15 | kgilmer | and i see it wants to build linux-2.6.21 |
| 20:27.19 | kgilmer | NOTE: Running task 184 of 644 (ID: 149, /home/kgilmer/dev/sandbox/oe-test/org.openembedded.dev/packages/linux/linux_2.6.21.bb, do_fetch) |
| 20:27.19 | kgilmer | N |
| 20:27.22 | xjqian | hrw: I will attend a meeting in Krakow this Nov. |
| 20:27.27 | kgilmer | own machine |
| 20:27.43 | kgilmer | and possibly distro, still not crystal clear on the OE way yet. |
| 20:28.03 | kgilmer | i have my own kernel sources but can't seem to find out where I need to integrate them. |
| 20:28.04 | hrw|n810 | kgilmer: use angstrom distro |
| 20:28.11 | kgilmer | do i just create my own kernel package? |
| 20:28.40 | hrw|n810 | kgilmer: use linux_X.bb as base and extend it for your machine |
| 20:28.53 | hrw|n810 | do not create yet another recipe |
| 20:29.48 | kgilmer | ok. so i have copies of machine/mx31ads and distro/generic |
| 20:29.58 | kgilmer | do my changes go in these files or elsewhere? |
| 20:30.04 | xjqian | hrw: actually this Sep. Is Krakow a fun place? |
| 20:30.44 | hrw|n810 | kgilmer: why you think that you need own distro? |
| 20:31.00 | hrw|n810 | xjqian: old nice town |
| 20:31.21 | hrw|n810 | xjqian: lot of drunk english assholes :( |
| 20:31.34 | kgilmer | ok, no distro. assuming i go with angstrom. |
| 20:32.06 | xjqian | 8-) |
| 20:32.51 | hrw|n810 | xjqian: lot of nice pubs. my wife suggest Judish part of city - called Kazimierz |
| 20:33.39 | xjqian | hope you don't mind +1 drunk Chinese in Sep. :) |
| 20:34.57 | hrw|n810 | xjqian: not at all - I am not from Krakow :) |
| 20:35.17 | hrw|n810 | xjqian: its ~10h from here |
| 20:36.35 | kgilmer | hmm...well I will wait for the OE site to come back up and keep reading doc. |
| 20:36.36 | kgilmer | thx |
| 20:36.53 | xjqian | I will live close to Jagiellonian University (close to the city center), is this the Judish part of city you are talking about? |
| 20:38.15 | hrw|n810 | xjqian: no idea - i was in Krakow twice in my life |
| 20:38.53 | xjqian | thanks. I will look for Kazimierz then |
| 20:39.46 | hrw|n810 | xjqian|lunch: bon appetit |
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| 20:54.06 | hrw|n810 | bye |
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| 21:05.50 | likewise | hello all |
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| 21:07.29 | ivan_q | hi |
| 21:07.32 | Fique | hello |
| 21:07.39 | ivan_q | what is happening with homepage ? |
| 21:08.01 | Fique | server issues |
| 21:08.42 | ivan_q | how long can it take ? |
| 21:12.31 | ivan_q | is monotone repo working or is it down too ? |
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| 21:13.25 | ScaredyCat | ivan_q: you need to slap flo_lap |
| 21:14.04 | ivan_q | ScaredyCat: emmm ? ;) |
| 21:14.20 | ScaredyCat | ~fish flo_lap |
| 21:14.21 | ibot | ACTION slaps flo_lap around with a large trout |
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| 21:14.42 | ivan_q | o.O :P |
| 21:14.44 | CM | xjqian|lunch: The Jewish part is in the southeast of Krakow, still north of the river, and there's some great resturants there :) |
| 21:16.02 | ivan_q | ~fish flo_flap ^^' |
| 21:16.03 | ibot | ACTION slaps flo_flap ^^' around with a large trout |
| 21:19.45 | ivan_q | is avalible somewhere monotone snapshot of OE ? cause link from 'getting started' doesn't work |
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| 21:22.20 | jeremy_laine | steliosk: ping? |
| 21:23.06 | jeremy_laine | has anyone rebuilt OE for powerpc/soft-float recently? |
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| 21:34.38 | khem | sakoman: hey |
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| 22:11.33 | zecke | RP: hey? my connection is just bad |
| 22:11.55 | RP | zecke: hi |
| 22:13.34 | zecke | RP: localedef: os.path.join has this speciality and in .dev it lead to using our localedef binary but the systems localefiles |
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| 22:14.04 | zecke | RP: I think pb_ fixed that one or two years ago in OE, I would have to find the fix (will do that shortly) |
| 22:14.17 | zecke | RP: libtool: Did I say I hate it? ;) |
| 22:14.56 | RP | zecke: Me too but they have tried to fix various things and it makes sense to try and use something vaguely modern... |
| 22:15.29 | RP | zecke: I'm curious why your setup breaks localedef and mine doesn't... |
| 22:16.01 | Crofton | RP, how is the libtool work going? |
| 22:17.00 | zecke | RP: This is just a guess: glibc 2.6 of poky and 2.7 have incompatible locale files |
| 22:17.32 | RP | Crofton: poky is now using 2.2.2 albeit with a few gremlins, one of which zecke seems to have found :/ |
| 22:17.34 | zecke | RP: e.g. a strace -fF bitbake -cpackage -f virtual/libc is probably giving more hints, sadly there was no error message at all |
| 22:18.15 | RP | zecke: You think its picking up something from the host system? |
| 22:18.21 | Crofton | rp, I almost had success ith 1.5.24, but had some gremlins also |
| 22:18.38 | RP | Crofton: Getting 2.2.2 working nearly drove me mad |
| 22:18.58 | zecke | RP: Yes, this would be something we have seen with .dev already |
| 22:18.58 | RP | I will not be volunteering to add 2.2.2 to OE.dev, I couldn't take it :( |
| 22:19.01 | Crofton | RP, I believe it will be worth the effort .... |
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| 22:19.17 | Crofton | what problems did you have? |
| 22:19.26 | Crofton | do packages also need patches? |
| 22:19.38 | RP | I will write an email to OE.dev writing about dolt, libtool, speedups and upgrades at some point |
| 22:19.46 | RP | I have been posting to the libtool list |
| 22:19.55 | RP | Crofton: yes, lots of them :( |
| 22:20.00 | RP | Mostly not libtool's fault |
| 22:20.29 | Crofton | thanks |
| 22:20.31 | RP | I think about 30-40 patches went into poky to make it work in the end |
| 22:21.18 | zecke | RP: page.mi.fu-berlin.de/~freyther/arm-poky-linux-gnueabi-libtool |
| 22:21.52 | RP | zecke: 404 |
| 22:22.49 | zecke | RP: hmm, wait a second, next attempt :) |
| 22:23.18 | zecke | RP: regarding gtk: Do you have any .exp files inside your build directory? |
| 22:24.28 | RP | zecke: yes |
| 22:25.05 | RP | zecke: In that post I mentioned on the poky list, it seems the control characters appear inside the .ver file instead of the list of symbols |
| 22:25.22 | zecke | RP: the .exp file is already broken |
| 22:25.52 | zecke | /home/ich/source/o-hand/poky/build/tmp/cross/bin/arm-poky-linux-gnueabi-nm -B .libs/gdk-pixbuf.o .libs/gdk-pixbuf-animation.o .libs/gdk-pixbuf-data.o .libs/gdk-pixbuf-io.o .libs/gdk-pixbuf-loader.o .libs/gdk-pixbuf-scale.o .libs/gdk-pixbuf-simple-anim.o .libs/gdk-pixbuf-scaled-anim.o .libs/gdk-pixbuf-util.o .libs/gdk-pixdata.o .libs/gdk-pixbuf-enum-types.o pixops/.libs/libpixops.a |
| 22:25.59 | zecke | this is working |
| 22:26.51 | RP | zecke: Right, that makes sense since the .ver is made from the .exp? |
| 22:28.30 | RP | Its corruption of the global_symbol_pipe bit of the libtool file |
| 22:31.21 | RP | zecke: and that variable is generated in the libtool file as part of configure |
| 22:32.15 | RP | zecke: Probably some silly shell quoting issue. What's your /bin/sh linked too? |
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| 22:36.00 | ant__ | RP: ping |
| 22:36.25 | RP | ant__: pong |
| 22:36.56 | ant__ | RP: hi, I have a single package failing do_package_stage |
| 22:37.42 | ant__ | RP: http://www.pastebin.org/31191 |
| 22:40.09 | RP | ant__: Hmm, the package is empty and wasn't created so it should have noticed that. This is probably corruption from a previous kdrive build or something :/ |
| 22:40.36 | ant__ | RP: actually I previously cleaned and rebuilt xserver-kdrive |
| 22:41.01 | ant__ | then cleaned xserver-kdrive-imageon and rebuilt |
| 22:41.15 | ant__ | w/o success |
| 22:41.32 | RP | ant__: Something has gone wrong somewhere along the lines. I realise packaged staging is supposed to avoid that :/ |
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| 22:41.44 | ant__ | RP: this thing imageon / W100 is driving me nut... |
| 22:41.45 | RP | ant__: I'd need to reproduce and debug |
| 22:41.57 | RP | zecke: Its /bin/sh pointing to dash |
| 22:42.01 | ant__ | as you see W100 is not compiled |
| 22:42.02 | RP | zecke: Just reproduced here |
| 22:42.05 | zecke | RP: ;) |
| 22:42.28 | zecke | RP: so the sed statement needs to be changed? |
| 22:42.46 | RP | zecke: well, libtool 2.2.2 is broken with dash |
| 22:42.59 | RP | Something libtool adds into configure mangles the output |
| 22:43.20 | RP | For now I will make poky error if you have dash as /bin/sh |
| 22:43.32 | RP | and we should report to the libtool people |
| 22:43.41 | RP | since we're using the latest release ;-) |
| 22:43.51 | zecke | RP: the most sensible thing... |
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| 22:44.21 | zecke | RP: I wonder what weird sed ^B ^B ^A is supposed to be... |
| 22:44.28 | zecke | RP: and why a cut and tr doesn't cut it :) |
| 22:44.57 | RP | \\1 \\2 \\3 I think |
| 22:45.06 | RP | \\1 \\2 \\2 even |
| 22:49.47 | zecke | RP: my net seems gone again... I will take a look at the localedef issue tommorow and then steal your meta-toolchain changes ;) |
| 22:50.31 | zecke | RP: then I think my insane.bbclass to treat native and cross the same in regard to not barfing on 'work dir' in .pc files is fine... |
| 22:51.10 | RP | zecke: The change in poky is that we set the vendor for sdk. |
| 22:51.28 | RP | zecke: This has the side effect of meaning we start building candian cross for the sdk compiler |
| 22:51.38 | RP | zecke: Whilst this works, its not the same as what OE does :/ |
| 22:52.10 | zecke | RP: I always forget after looking at this. Do you have insane.bbclass in poky? is it enabled by default? |
| 22:52.20 | RP | zecke: yes and yes |
| 22:52.50 | zecke | RP: for me, OE/insane is barfing on i686-linux/usr/lib/pkgconfig/*.pc when building a package that inherits cross |
| 22:53.36 | zecke | RP: a) it is wrong for it to look there at all... (it kind of is... and could explain Jin|away's issues with the username) |
| 22:53.55 | RP | zecke: in poky since we set TARGET_PREFIX for sdk packages, we have i686-linux for native and i686-poky-linux for the sdk |
| 22:54.11 | zecke | RP: ah, now I see :) |
| 22:54.46 | zecke | anyway this week is terrible bad... but I have to catch up on your mail :} |
| 22:55.11 | zecke | guademy, doing slides, OpenMoko work, University, a little reverse engineering project : |
| 22:55.27 | RP | zecke: poky will now error on /bin/sh = dash FWIW ;-) |
| 22:55.53 | RP | zecke: I've been away and am trying to catch up on a load of stuff too :/ |
| 22:56.36 | zecke | I should just get a rich wife... |
| 22:57.12 | RP | zecke: If you happen to find any spare... ;-) |
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| 23:04.02 | zecke | anyway, sleep well :) |
| 23:07.57 | RP | 'night zecke |
| 23:08.39 | zecke | hmm libtool already has /bin/bash at the top of the script.. |
| 23:09.24 | RP | zecke: but we run configure which generates the libtool script with /bin/sh |
| 23:11.37 | ant__ | 'night all |
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| 23:15.10 | |miska| | How can I recompile libopie2 without deleting whole tmp? I've tried deleting stamps, but it seems that it isn't getting recompiled (I changed a patch I'm using and make there a mistake on purpose, so it can't be compiled but I got no errors) |
| 23:15.41 | zecke | |miska|: bitbake -clisttasks libopie2 to get an overview |
| 23:15.57 | zecke | |miska|: and then e.g. bitbake -cclean libopie2 |
| 23:16.13 | |miska| | Thanks |
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| 23:52.29 | JohnFlux | Hey all |
| 23:52.50 | JohnFlux | Anyone know what i can use to encode high resolution H264? |
| 23:53.00 | hrw | JohnFlux: mencoder? |
| 23:53.58 | JohnFlux | sorry, I meant hardware wise :) |
| 23:54.25 | JohnFlux | I'm trying to find an arm chip with a built in hardware H264 encoder |
| 23:54.31 | JohnFlux | or some such system |
| 23:55.00 | hrw | hoho.. |
| 23:55.31 | hrw | I do not remember does ST Nomadik chips had encoding or only decoding of misc media formats |