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| 03:50.16 | CIA-22 | 03otavio 07org.oe.dev * raf52c5bd... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 03:50.16 | CIA-22 | libvncserver: add possibility to use a logger by client. partly closes 4340. |
| 03:50.16 | CIA-22 | * commit by Laibsch |
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| 05:50.38 | udovdh | hello |
| 05:50.42 | udovdh | anybody awake? |
| 05:50.50 | udovdh | I want to investigate my QA erors |
| 05:51.13 | udovdh | QA_LOG="1" |
| 05:51.13 | udovdh | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:51.23 | udovdh | or I did look in the wrong places, of course |
| 05:56.38 | CIA-22 | 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r61ead9be... 10/ (1 packages/xfce/xfwm4.inc): |
| 05:56.38 | CIA-22 | xfwm4: don't mangle the include path |
| 05:56.38 | CIA-22 | * Currently all related libraries properly install at /usr/include/xfce4/ |
| 05:56.38 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:56.38 | CIA-22 | * commit by Laibsch |
| 05:56.43 | CIA-22 | 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * rca2ecd71... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): acpid: 1.0.6 and later don't need the gcc40.patch anymore |
| 06:03.09 | udovdh | btw: how could I reduce memory consumption on the h2200 even further? (except stopping stuff I don't use) |
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| 06:18.58 | hvontres|home | !logs |
| 06:18.59 | cdbot2 | Channel logs for #oe are archived at: |
| 06:19.00 | cdbot2 | http://hentges.net/tmp/logs/irc/%23oe |
| 06:19.01 | cdbot2 | Live-logs are available at |
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| 06:19.06 | cdbot2 | See ?? help-logs for usage instructions |
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| 06:37.37 | udovdh | I now get: |
| 06:37.38 | udovdh | NOTE: QA checking staging |
| 06:37.38 | udovdh | ERROR: QA Issue: libgmodule-2.0.la failed sanity test (workdir) in path /usr/src/ipaq/angstrom-tmp//staging/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/lib |
| 06:37.38 | udovdh | ERROR: QA Issue: libpangocairo-1.0.la failed sanity test (workdir) in path /usr/src/ipaq/angstrom-tmp//staging/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/lib |
| 06:37.49 | udovdh | how do I make the QA stuff even more verbose? |
| 06:38.02 | udovdh | I do have QA_LOG enabled, so where is the log? |
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| 07:49.02 | wvdschel | hi |
| 07:49.30 | wvdschel | is there a big difference in performance between the C7xx and a C1000? |
| 07:55.29 | udovdh | Check the specs, I would say |
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| 08:02.36 | wvdschel | udovdh, i'm wondering what the difference between the PXA270 and 255 |
| 08:02.48 | wvdschel | since I heard the 25x series are relatively slow |
| 08:02.59 | udovdh | higher number is basically newer, bigger, better, faster |
| 08:03.31 | udovdh | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XScale#PXA27x |
| 08:04.45 | udovdh | if you scroll up there is info on the 25x as well |
| 08:05.03 | udovdh | I have a 250 in my H2210 |
| 08:05.26 | udovdh | runs OK, can be overclocked for a bit more speed (in wince at least) |
| 08:12.54 | wvdschel | i see |
| 08:14.57 | udovdh | akita should run on angstrom |
| 08:19.15 | udovdh | http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4344 also happens on stable. |
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| 09:33.40 | cyrilRomain | morning |
| 09:42.43 | CIA-22 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rf89fc42c... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/angstrom-2008-preferred-versions.inc): angstrom 2008: prefer pixman 0.10.0 |
| 10:09.28 | udovdh | cyrilRomain, good morning |
| 10:09.57 | udovdh | cyrilRomain, http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4344 |
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| 10:17.02 | _gints___ | does env variable CACHE should be set? .. bitbake complains that it's should .. but manuals do not say so |
| 10:20.00 | cyrilRomain | udovdh: good, please also include the patch for linux-handhelds-2.6_2.6.21-hh20.bb (with PR = "r21" and your patch added in SRC_URI) as well (tip: use mtn to create the patch) |
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| 10:20.18 | udovdh | will look into that |
| 10:20.25 | cyrilRomain | udovdh: if a core developer find your patch OK it will be commited :) |
| 10:21.15 | cyrilRomain | udovdh: you will have better chance the patch to be commited if it can be applied without much effort ;) |
| 10:23.01 | udovdh | I cna understand |
| 10:23.08 | udovdh | will have a look into mtn now |
| 10:24.07 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 4349 has been created by udovdh(AT)xs4all.nl |
| 10:24.09 | cdbot2 | * * h2200: high cpu usage |
| 10:24.11 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4349 |
| 10:25.17 | cyrilRomain | udovdh: go into packages/linux, 'mtn add pathToYourPatch', 'mtn diff .' |
| 10:25.38 | udovdh | thanks cyrilRomain ! |
| 10:29.26 | CIA-22 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * ra66740dc... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): linux-omap2 git: bump SRCREV and tweak defconfig to get a more stable bootprocess |
| 10:30.19 | udovdh | cyrilRomain, appears to work ok |
| 10:30.29 | udovdh | I only now get all my changes that I did |
| 10:30.41 | udovdh | I only want this specific patch for the kernel compile |
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| 10:35.27 | udovdh | cyrilRomain, refresh :-) |
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| 10:35.44 | ortanc | oe |
| 10:39.27 | gints | someone knows workaround for svn bitbake get work at ubuntu? |
| 10:39.41 | ortanc | oe |
| 10:41.49 | udovdh | workaround for what |
| 10:41.50 | udovdh | ? |
| 10:41.53 | ortanc | oe |
| 10:42.33 | gints | it does not work at my ubuntu box |
| 10:42.39 | ortanc | oe |
| 10:43.00 | gints | moment I try put messages at pastebin |
| 10:43.01 | udovdh | in what way? |
| 10:43.05 | ortanc | oe |
| 10:43.06 | udovdh | ah, please do |
| 10:43.09 | ortanc | oe |
| 10:44.36 | gints | http://pastebin.ca/1035760 |
| 10:45.15 | ortanc | oe |
| 10:45.38 | oxo | silences ortanc |
| 10:45.49 | udovdh | RuntimeError: dictionary changed size during iteration ? |
| 10:45.54 | ortanc | oe |
| 10:46.33 | udovdh | looks like a python issue |
| 10:46.37 | ortanc | oe |
| 10:46.39 | udovdh | what version do you have? |
| 10:46.41 | ortanc | oe |
| 10:46.42 | gints | moment |
| 10:46.44 | ortanc | oe |
| 10:46.54 | udovdh | how did you install it? |
| 10:47.06 | ortanc | oe |
| 10:47.27 | udovdh | I used the info from http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom and from http://oe.linuxtogo.org/wiki/GettingStarted |
| 10:47.29 | gints | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:47.33 | udovdh | and did not have your problem |
| 10:47.51 | udovdh | yet. |
| 10:47.56 | gints | actualy I have unstable ubuntu |
| 10:48.14 | udovdh | i am on Fedora 9 x86_64 |
| 10:48.15 | gints | python 2.5 I think |
| 10:48.27 | udovdh | maybe not the puthon version but the bitbake version |
| 10:48.35 | udovdh | s/put/pyt |
| 10:48.37 | udovdh | s/put/pyt/ |
| 10:48.59 | gints | ok.. I try get bitbake from install |
| 10:49.03 | gints | not svn one |
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| 10:51.11 | gints | ok ... distribution one does not fail |
| 10:52.25 | udovdh | with the oe setup instructions I built navit (after some otehr issues that were fixed) and now I am approaching a full build of x11-image |
| 10:56.07 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 4350 has been created by udovdh(AT)xs4all.nl |
| 10:56.09 | cdbot2 | * * x11-image errors (QA and others) |
| 10:56.11 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4350 |
| 10:56.14 | ortanc | oe |
| 10:56.16 | udovdh | that was the one I just hit upon |
| 10:57.10 | ortanc | oe |
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| 11:06.06 | gints | is there way to tell bitbake which version of python to use? |
| 11:06.50 | udovdh | PATH? |
| 11:07.28 | udovdh | PATH=/usr/src/ipaq/bitbake/bin:$PATH |
| 11:07.44 | udovdh | export PATH... |
| 11:08.30 | gints | not exactly what I mean.. but seems like system decide that.. so I have to look for my ubuntu |
| 11:10.43 | udovdh | gints, you have multiple python versions on the system? |
| 11:11.32 | cyrilRomain | gints: if it's the case, you might need to set PYTHONPATH |
| 11:13.15 | gints | I had 2.5 only.. but this gives me many errors while parsing .bb files |
| 11:13.23 | gints | so I decided to try put 2.4 on work |
| 11:13.52 | cyrilRomain | gints: python 2.5.x is ok to run bitbake |
| 11:14.16 | gints | ok .. then I have to deal with this issue - Message:'NoneType' object has no attribute 'split' |
| 11:14.26 | gints | I get many this kind of errors |
| 11:15.19 | cyrilRomain | gints: sounds like a missing configuration variable .. |
| 11:16.42 | cyrilRomain | gints: feel free to pastebin your errors |
| 11:17.38 | gints | there is many.. but I try put some first lines |
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| 11:22.28 | gints | DEBUG: update_data() |
| 11:22.28 | gints | ERROR: Error in executing: |
| 11:22.28 | gints | ERROR: Exception:<type 'exceptions.TypeError'> Message:argument of type 'NoneType' is not iterable |
| 11:22.28 | gints | ERROR: Printing the environment of the function |
| 11:22.28 | gints | DEBUG: Exception when executing anonymous function: argument of type 'NoneType' is not iterable |
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| 11:23.14 | gints | damn it .. sory |
| 11:23.16 | cyrilRomain | gints: which version of bitbake do you use ? |
| 11:23.37 | gints | http://pastebin.ca/1035787 |
| 11:23.57 | gints | 1.8.10 |
| 11:25.22 | udovdh | 1.8.11 worked ok for me so far... |
| 11:26.02 | gints | I try search for 1.8.11 |
| 11:29.40 | gints | hmm .. is not 1.8.11 like svn version? |
| 11:29.49 | gints | then I have tryed it |
| 11:29.52 | cyrilRomain | gints: hmm wait. Do you have a /oe/build/conf/bitbake.conf file ? |
| 11:30.00 | gints | yes |
| 11:30.01 | gints | :) |
| 11:30.03 | cyrilRomain | gints: you shouldn't |
| 11:30.10 | gints | ups |
| 11:30.56 | cyrilRomain | gints: please read carefully the GettingStarted page (or the angstrom one) :) |
| 11:36.41 | gints | gah.. ok it works fine now.. for some reason I started to mess around with bitbake.conf instead of local.conf |
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| 11:42.53 | udovdh | cyrilRomain, bitbake x11-image also gives me a lot of QA errors |
| 11:43.14 | udovdh | so is it my system? |
| 11:43.20 | udovdh | or what is causing them? |
| 11:43.38 | cyrilRomain | udovdh: well some packages have QA issues, but you should'nt have so much, especially with x11-image :-/ |
| 11:44.15 | cyrilRomain | udovdh: hmm did you deleted the tmp dir when you switched back and forth from .stable to .dev ? |
| 11:44.25 | udovdh | I filed a bug so you can see http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4350 |
| 11:44.37 | udovdh | I did not switch recently |
| 11:44.46 | udovdh | and yes I did delete temp from time to time. |
| 11:44.53 | udovdh | either disk full or other changes |
| 11:45.02 | udovdh | at this moment there is plenty of space |
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| 11:45.43 | udovdh | besides the QA I see some other error happening at the bottom of the log |
| 11:45.50 | udovdh | is that correct? |
| 11:50.46 | gints | now I have to create my machine info :) from existing ones... In feed with opensourced libs of that device |
| 11:53.48 | cyrilRomain | udovdh: I never seen that error |
| 11:55.18 | udovdh | then it must be interesting ;-) |
| 11:55.40 | cyrilRomain | udovdh: yeah, but I don't know ipkg stuff enough to understand what's wrong :-/ |
| 11:55.41 | udovdh | a retry give the same |
| 11:55.53 | udovdh | maybe I must step back a bit more and then retry |
| 11:58.40 | cyrilRomain | udovdh: you could find what's wrong for yourself by uncommenting line 158 of /usr/src/ipaq/angstrom-tmp/staging/x86_64-linux/bin/ipkg.py |
| 11:58.55 | udovdh | will do |
| 11:58.59 | cyrilRomain | udovdh: it's as if a content the file were empty |
| 11:59.12 | cyrilRomain | udovdh: at least from what the code tells me .. |
| 12:00.01 | udovdh | what job do I restart to recreate the file? |
| 12:00.17 | cyrilRomain | no need to recreate the file |
| 12:00.37 | cyrilRomain | just uncomment the line in-place |
| 12:00.50 | cyrilRomain | and re-run bitbake x11-image |
| 12:01.15 | udovdh | cyrilRomain, http://rafb.net/p/s4qQMf37.html |
| 12:01.24 | udovdh | looks like one of the pkgs is not OK? |
| 12:01.31 | udovdh | or missing somehow |
| 12:03.44 | cyrilRomain | udovdh: hmm try running 'bitbake package-index' and rerun bitbake x11-image |
| 12:04.49 | udovdh | same sort of error for the package index |
| 12:05.49 | udovdh | http://rafb.net/p/rHmwLn93.html |
| 12:11.14 | cyrilRomain | udovdh: something is wrong with suspend-desktop_1.0-r1_all.ipk |
| 12:11.26 | cyrilRomain | does /usr/src/ipaq/angstrom-tmp//deploy/glibc/ipk/all/suspend-desktop_1.0-r1_all.ipk exists ? |
| 12:12.01 | udovdh | $ ls -l /usr/src/ipaq/angstrom-tmp//deploy/glibc/ipk/all/suspend-desktop_1.0-r1_all.ipk |
| 12:12.01 | udovdh | -rw-rw-r-- 1 udo udo 1014 2008-06-01 12:45 /usr/src/ipaq/angstrom-tmp//deploy/glibc/ipk/all/suspend-desktop_1.0-r1_all.ipk |
| 12:12.03 | udovdh | pretty small |
| 12:12.09 | udovdh | maybe clean it out and rebuild? |
| 12:12.14 | cyrilRomain | aha |
| 12:12.47 | cyrilRomain | udovdh: yeah give it a try |
| 12:13.03 | udovdh | bitbake -c clean suspend-desktop |
| 12:13.09 | udovdh | bitbake x11-image. |
| 12:13.47 | cyrilRomain | udovdh: also remove the suspend-desktop_1.0-r1_all.ipk file |
| 12:14.00 | cyrilRomain | udovdh: because cleaning will not remove the ipkg iirc |
| 12:14.09 | cyrilRomain | s/ipkg/ipk file/ |
| 12:14.18 | udovdh | we progress... error remains but now log shows different file |
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| 12:22.42 | udovdh | now I am stuck on /usr/src/ipaq/angstrom-tmp//deploy/glibc/ipk/all/udev-hostap-cs-vcc-workaround-dev_1.0-r1_all.ipk |
| 12:22.46 | udovdh | small file |
| 12:22.49 | udovdh | and recreated as such |
| 12:26.32 | cyrilRomain | udovdh: hmm I suspect a mistake in your configuration ending in QA issues and empty packages :-/ |
| 12:26.48 | udovdh | build.conf? |
| 12:27.03 | udovdh | local.conf I mean |
| 12:27.04 | CIA-22 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r26b9fba4... 10/ (1 packages/efl1/epsilon_cvs.bb): epsilon cvs as of 20080520, epsilon no longer needs imlib2 nor epeg |
| 12:27.07 | CIA-22 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r1ba40601... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/sane-srcdates.inc): EFL cvs bump SRCDATE to 20080524 |
| 12:28.35 | cyrilRomain | udovdh: or in your environment variables. |
| 12:29.53 | udovdh | will have a look |
| 12:31.07 | Laibsch | flo_lap: Big thank you for representing OE at Linuxtag! |
| 12:32.45 | udovdh | cyrilRomain, some stuff: http://rafb.net/p/LSDlWY16.html |
| 12:32.52 | udovdh | looks Ok to me... |
| 12:35.40 | cyrilRomain | udovdh: to me too |
| 12:36.00 | udovdh | maybe just rm -f the ipkgs? |
| 12:36.04 | udovdh | and try again? |
| 12:37.33 | cyrilRomain | udovdh: yeah, it would probably solve your empty ipk issue. But you'll not get rid of QA issues though |
| 12:37.43 | udovdh | we'll see |
| 12:37.46 | udovdh | progerss step by step |
| 12:38.55 | cyrilRomain | udovdh: your QA issue comes from files in tmp/staging directory pointing to files in tmp/work directory. |
| 12:39.08 | udovdh | how to avoid? |
| 12:39.45 | cyrilRomain | udovdh: by writing correct do_package() function in .bb files |
| 12:39.59 | udovdh | so bug in package? |
| 12:40.18 | cyrilRomain | udovdh: It might be. But I'm wondering why you get QA issue on packages other do not have .. |
| 12:40.35 | udovdh | still wondering here |
| 12:40.52 | udovdh | is it my host system? |
| 12:40.56 | udovdh | fedora 9 |
| 12:40.59 | udovdh | x86_64? |
| 12:41.05 | udovdh | the target? |
| 12:41.07 | udovdh | h2200? |
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| 12:44.34 | cyrilRomain | udovdh: hmm do you have a /usr/src/ipaq/angstrom-2007.1-tmp/ directory ? |
| 12:44.46 | udovdh | not anymore |
| 12:45.02 | udovdh | I have an angstrom-tmp |
| 12:45.35 | cyrilRomain | udovdh: ok, be carefull then in your local.conf, you use ${DISTRO} for TMPDIR |
| 12:46.01 | udovdh | I have TMPDIR = "/usr/src/ipaq/${DISTRO}-tmp/" |
| 12:47.27 | cyrilRomain | udovdh: yeah but FWIW it will not use DISTRO set in your local.conf, but from a DISTRO variable set in your environment |
| 12:48.14 | udovdh | no such variable here |
| 12:49.06 | udovdh | now I have one |
| 12:50.09 | udovdh | no difference for the TMPDIR though |
| 12:50.11 | cyrilRomain | udovdh: no no. avoid another variable ;) |
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| 12:53.06 | cyrilRomain | udovdh: ah ok: DISTRO is set to angstrom by default, hence your angstrom-tmp. No pb here |
| 12:57.07 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3599 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by deller(AT)gmx.de |
| 12:57.09 | cdbot2 | * * MMC/SD card compatibility on Poodle |
| 12:57.11 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3599 |
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| 13:19.59 | CIA-22 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r10c1bb58... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): fso-image|moko-underground-image: add some tools |
| 13:32.48 | udovdh | ok... |
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| 14:43.36 | udovdh | cyrilRomain, building from cratch again to see if that helps |
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| 14:43.56 | udovdh | maybe a mtn diff of all my changes can help see the issue in my problems? |
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| 14:57.17 | udovdh | yay! I opened a bug and fixed it at the same time! :-) |
| 14:58.06 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 4351 has been created by udovdh(AT)xs4all.nl |
| 14:58.08 | cdbot2 | * * navit cvs migrated to svn; edit navit_cvs.bb |
| 14:58.10 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4351 |
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| 15:12.23 | LionKMP | Hi, what are all these -native things bitbake is building? native to the phone (I wanna try some openmoko stuff) or native to my PC? |
| 15:12.48 | LionKMP | task 330 of 4358 sounds scary :-( |
| 15:13.08 | cyrilRomain | LionKMP: native to your PC, and required to build things for your phone |
| 15:13.29 | LionKMP | cyrilRomain: but my Mandriva had most of these things already. "native" to my pc. |
| 15:13.36 | cyrilRomain | LionKMP: many task because you're building a complete flashable Linux distribution from scratch! |
| 15:13.53 | LionKMP | flashable? then native to the moko, isnt it? |
| 15:14.40 | cyrilRomain | LionKMP: then you could speed-up the build process by using ASSUME_PROVIDED in your local.conf file |
| 15:15.26 | cyrilRomain | LionKMP: but I would avoid that since your Mandriva may have version of software not compatible with the one required by OE |
| 15:15.53 | LionKMP | ok. will I have to do this 4500 only once for all? |
| 15:17.10 | LionKMP | does it build moko-native when it does not say "-native"? e.g. glib-2.0.2.16.1 |
| 15:18.07 | cyrilRomain | LionKMP: no it does not build all -native packages per target packages, only those required |
| 15:19.26 | LionKMP | what if I want to make a hello-world only? I guess a binary "openmoko os" would be enough to download, isn't it? (The how-tos are so confusing, I tried following many of them!) |
| 15:20.31 | cyrilRomain | LionKMP: there should be openmoko SDK around. See in the openmoko wiki |
| 15:20.40 | cyrilRomain | LionKMP: or better ask in #openmoko for that |
| 15:21.53 | LionKMP | ok. I asked #openmoko but nobody is there at the moment. I'll try finding more in the Wiki. (but I tried MANY of the development howtos already, no result :) ) |
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| 15:25.20 | cyrilRomain | LionKMP: FWIW, all you need is in openmoko wiki or openmoko mailing list |
| 15:28.35 | LionKMP | yes, just there are way too many options (with no "do THIS if unsure") for someone who never worked with embedded stuff or phones or so. |
| 15:28.56 | LionKMP | hehe, "do THIS if unsure" would be cool. :) |
| 15:30.31 | LionKMP | OEandYourDistro is spammed in OE wiki. |
| 15:30.54 | LionKMP | with spam links |
| 15:34.44 | cyrilRomain | LionKMP: we know that. There are plans to create a new wiki with protection against spams |
| 15:35.49 | LionKMP | I see |
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| 15:44.31 | LionKMP | in which directory is the output growing for this 'bitbake openmoko-devel-image'? Where are all these glibc, perl, libxml going? |
| 15:45.18 | cyrilRomain | LionKMP: build/tmp/ |
| 15:45.48 | LionKMP | hehe, yes that's the only dir near here, but I hoped 5400 files won't go to a "tmp". ;-) |
| 15:46.47 | cyrilRomain | LionKMP: output ends in tmp/deploy directory. It's up to you then to make backup of the deploy dir |
| 15:47.25 | LionKMP | thank you |
| 15:48.28 | LionKMP | it has tons of hm... luch is ready :( tons of architecture dirs in for example uild/tmp/work/x86_64-linux/qemu-native-0.9.1-r7/qemu-0.9.1 |
| 15:48.36 | LionKMP | lunch even :-p |
| 15:48.58 | LionKMP | I'll be back soon. thanks so far! I wonder why I have sparc32 and such dirs and a QEmu in each. |
| 15:49.10 | LionKMP | I'll read manual more |
| 15:50.22 | mwester | ;) And it's about 510,000 files in tmp for a full build of OM... |
| 15:50.34 | LionKMP | MACHINE = "om-gta01" |
| 15:50.34 | LionKMP | DISTRO = "openmoko" |
| 15:50.55 | LionKMP | I think I didn't set a "TARGET_ARCH" :( |
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| 15:51.57 | mwester | BUILD_ARCH = "i686" |
| 15:52.08 | LionKMP | x86_64 I have |
| 15:52.12 | mwester | Did you use the Makefile to set up the environment? |
| 15:52.26 | LionKMP | no, I just followed "Getting started": |
| 15:52.44 | LionKMP | http://oe.linuxtogo.org/wiki/GettingStarted |
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| 15:53.04 | LionKMP | and adjusted the conf file according to Getting Started on openmoko site. |
| 15:53.38 | mwester | Hopefully the docs are up to date; but I know that the Makefile is up to date! |
| 15:54.00 | mwester | It would set up all the magic variables for you, and ensure that they are sensible. |
| 15:54.18 | mwester | (The makefile is, however, very much frowned upon on this channel) |
| 15:54.40 | LionKMP | CTRL-F Makefile on GettingStarted has no result :-/. Anyway, I'll keep on reading the whole docs first. |
| 15:55.08 | LionKMP | so far it only said, how "make" has been obsolted by much better tools :-) |
| 15:56.17 | cyrilRomain | LionKMP: again, for application development you might use the openmoko toolchain available. See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain |
| 15:57.08 | LionKMP | cyrilRomain: I did that, but that creates files what I must download to the Moko (and I don't have one yet) |
| 15:57.22 | LionKMP | I built their sample-app2 or what, and that's an arm app. :) |
| 15:57.36 | LionKMP | using "Toolchain" binary package. |
| 15:57.42 | cyrilRomain | LionKMP: then run it under QEmu. See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_under_QEMU |
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| 15:59.06 | LionKMP | ok, thanks, I'll try that again (I tried yesterday that too, I don't remember how did it fail). |
| 15:59.31 | woglinde | ~lart scons |
| 15:59.31 | ibot | blasts scons to oblivion with a kamehameha wave |
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| 16:01.46 | mwester | agrees with woglinde's sentiments |
| 16:02.04 | woglinde | mwester it sets -Werror somewhere |
| 16:02.14 | woglinde | and I dont know how to disable it |
| 16:03.39 | mwester | :( It seems that whenever I run into scons at one of my customers, they too do not know how it works -- scons knowlege seems to be the domain of a very small set of people... |
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| 16:04.40 | woglinde | unfornatly ok-labs use it for their l4 kernel |
| 16:05.08 | cyrilRomain | it is the same with others tools: cmake, autotools, .. |
| 16:05.33 | flo_lap | hi all |
| 16:05.37 | woglinde | he florian |
| 16:05.40 | cyrilRomain | hi florian |
| 16:06.00 | woglinde | florian got back to home? |
| 16:06.06 | cyrilRomain | woglinde: are you hacking with OKL4 ? ;) |
| 16:06.36 | cyrilRomain | woglinde: with the FreeRunner ? ;) |
| 16:07.36 | woglinde | cyril hehe I want to look at it |
| 16:07.51 | woglinde | not for the freerunner |
| 16:07.56 | woglinde | only neo |
| 16:08.22 | woglinde | I dont know why the l4 people are so crazy |
| 16:08.37 | woglinde | their are they from australia |
| 16:08.43 | woglinde | the from dresden/germany |
| 16:08.57 | woglinde | and they dont work together |
| 16:09.37 | woglinde | but "stealing" code from opposite |
| 16:10.54 | mickeyl | yes, that's very sad |
| 16:12.54 | flo_lap | woglinde: yep... finally, arrived around 4am today |
| 16:13.21 | Crofton|work | flo_lap, so linuxTag went well? |
| 16:14.25 | flo_lap | Crofton|work: Yes, I'm quite happy with it. We got quite some feedback and talked to several people who are using it or intend to use it. |
| 16:14.38 | woglinde | he mickeyl |
| 16:15.16 | flo_lap | I should post a short summary with information... |
| 16:15.58 | Crofton|work | yes :) |
| 16:16.36 | flo_lap | mickeyl: I just read you asked about it already :) |
| 16:18.06 | mickeyl | yeah |
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| 16:20.35 | CIA-22 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r15ec998d... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): libpng12: Add fix for libtool 2.2.4 from poky |
| 16:20.40 | CIA-22 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r7c773905... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): apmd: Use libtool --tag options to avoid problems with libtool 2.2.4 (from poky) |
| 16:22.17 | woglinde | uh |
| 16:22.21 | woglinde | libtool2 transition |
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| 16:22.58 | RP | I said I'd add the libtool 2.x .bb files and push the fixes which shouldn't break anything... |
| 16:23.05 | RP | well some of them |
| 16:23.14 | woglinde | rp hehe okay |
| 16:24.05 | RP | it starts the ball rolling but I can say for 100% certainty I won't be pushing it all the way to be made default myself ;-) |
| 16:26.04 | woglinde | I will test it too |
| 16:30.40 | RP | A quick survey of poky says that networkmanager glib-2.0 libusb cairo bluez-utils web-webkit hal gstreamer* claws* all need patches |
| 16:31.32 | Crofton|work | RP, ar the libtool2 patches work with libtool1? |
| 16:32.02 | Crofton|work | if not, is there a way to select patches that applied based on libtool version? |
| 16:34.46 | RP | Crofton|work: yes, the ones I'm applying are backwards compatible |
| 16:35.14 | RP | There are some in poky which aren't and they will need more thought but are thankfully a minority |
| 17:01.43 | RP | hmm, thats a relief. 2.6.26-rc4 boots on spitz :) |
| 17:02.18 | Crofton|work | I'm having terrible problems with .25 and the OSK |
| 17:02.46 | RP | Crofton|work: What kind of problems? |
| 17:04.52 | Crofton | i2c_omap i2c_omap.1: Transmit overflow |
| 17:04.52 | Crofton | tps65010: power off button |
| 17:04.59 | Crofton | with tmpfs on |
| 17:05.25 | Crofton | I'm sending an email to the linux-omap list |
| 17:06.08 | RP | I have no idea about that stuff tbh... |
| 17:06.19 | Crofton|work | me niether |
| 17:06.23 | Crofton|work | its realy frustrating |
| 17:06.41 | Crofton|work | hopefully someone on the omap list haas some ideas |
| 17:06.44 | Crofton|work | bbl |
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| 21:52.54 | CIA-22 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r7e12dc3b... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-rp.inc): linux-rp.inc: Remove INITRAMFS_IMAGE setting. This is a personal (local.conf) or distro configuration option since its policy. Please discuss this on the mailing list or with me if you disagree. |
| 21:54.23 | ant_ | RP: are you around ? |
| 21:54.34 | RP | ant_: yes |
| 21:54.39 | ant_ | hi |
| 21:54.50 | ant_ | I'm just playing with initramfs |
| 21:54.54 | ant_ | eh |
| 21:56.06 | ant_ | the good news is thesing's bootmenu-image is very small (130 kb) |
| 21:56.15 | XorA|gone | cool |
| 21:56.29 | ant_ | but he somewhat forgot to commit the changes |
| 21:56.43 | ant_ | feels perhaps unfinished ? |
| 21:56.53 | RP | I've not used it |
| 21:57.15 | ant_ | I could post these (hope thesing would agree) |
| 21:57.24 | RP | My commit above probably won't make me any friends on the initramfs front :/ |
| 21:57.37 | RP | Putting policy into the kernel reipes is not good though... |
| 21:57.48 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 21:57.52 | ant_ | RP: the actual state was already very bad |
| 21:57.56 | ant_ | was/is |
| 21:58.00 | mickeyl | as long as it still can be made to work without patching the metadata |
| 21:58.02 | XorA|gone | handbags at dawn :-) |
| 21:58.02 | woglinde | RP I think it is okay |
| 21:58.39 | RP | mickeyl: IMO INITRAMFS_IMAGE should be set in the distro config or local.conf, not in the kernel recipe |
| 21:58.54 | ant_ | RP: andrea@mizar /oe/org.openembedded.dev/conf $ grep -R INITRAMFS . |
| 21:59.04 | ant_ | is the old way.. |
| 21:59.13 | mickeyl | RP: in general i agree, in practice, there are some models, where it is a necessity |
| 21:59.32 | RP | mickeyl: The zaurus and linux-rp is not one of them ;-) |
| 21:59.39 | mickeyl | collie is |
| 21:59.43 | mickeyl | which is a zaurus |
| 21:59.45 | ant_ | the problem I see is the fork linux-hh linux-rp |
| 21:59.54 | ant_ | pfalcon <> thesing |
| 21:59.54 | RP | collie may be an exception |
| 22:00.22 | RP | I was forgetting collie. In that case collie.conf would be a good place to set this |
| 22:00.30 | XorA|gone | collie only needs it if you stick a large DISTRO on it |
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| 22:00.52 | RP | anyhow, my point is conf files are more appropriate... |
| 22:01.21 | RP | ant_: yes, pflacon's approach and thesings look to be hitting head on :/ |
| 22:01.34 | RP | ant_: I've lost track of how they're both trying to do it too... |
| 22:01.35 | ant_ | RP: this initramfs kernel needs a separate defconfig, remember linux-rp-lite ? |
| 22:02.26 | RP | ant_: I remember something about it |
| 22:02.56 | RP | I could really use a recap on the mailing list of the current positions, what they're aiming for and what the problems are |
| 22:09.03 | ant_ | RP: http://www.pastebin.ca/1036258 |
| 22:09.38 | ant_ | and http://www.pastebin.ca/1036260 |
| 22:10.29 | ant_ | and http://www.pastebin.ca/1036262 |
| 22:10.37 | woglinde | nite |
| 22:12.11 | RP | ant_: Eeek, you can't do that with PV |
| 22:12.32 | ant_ | RP: I'm building now, I integrated some ideas by hand |
| 22:12.33 | RP | There is a bug open with a description of why somewhere |
| 22:12.51 | ant_ | RP: that's thesing work |
| 22:12.55 | RP | ant_: There is discussion needed on a lot of those patches |
| 22:13.03 | ant_ | ^^^ |
| 22:13.18 | ant_ | I agree with you |
| 22:14.38 | ant_ | but thesing done an awesome job porting all to klibc |
| 22:14.57 | RP | I'm not saying otherwise! :) |
| 22:15.00 | ant_ | *has done |
| 22:18.05 | ant_ | RP: I'd propose a linux-rp-lite and a linux-rp-lite-inc for the purpose of initramfs (needs special defconfig) |
| 22:18.06 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2367 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by rpurdie(AT)rpsys.net |
| 22:18.08 | cdbot2 | * * angstrom poodle: no suspend support with "Cancel" button |
| 22:18.10 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2367 |
| 22:18.26 | RP | ant_: I'm ok with that in principle |
| 22:20.00 | ant_ | RP: andrea@mizar ~/devel/thesing/test $ ls -al initramfs_data.cpio.gz |
| 22:20.01 | ant_ | -rw-r--r-- 1 andrea users 109385 Jun 1 01:35 initramfs_data.cpio.gz |
| 22:20.33 | ant_ | the kernel doesn't need special diet even |
| 22:21.04 | ant_ | this is the bootmenu |
| 22:28.17 | ant_ | RP: the second step/issue will be the CONSOLE_CMDLINE (for the kexec'ed kernel) and the fact the kernel must be in /boot |
| 22:28.40 | RP | ant_: If there are separate recipes that shouldn't be an issue |
| 22:29.01 | ant_ | this would apply to standard images I think |
| 22:29.20 | ant_ | if we "change" boot mechanism |
| 22:29.27 | RP | We can change the commandline from kexec now |
| 22:29.33 | ant_ | thinks about zaurus |
| 22:30.16 | ant_ | the first kernel must ignore the bogus angelboot parameters |
| 22:30.41 | ant_ | and must provide sane ATAGS and no cmdline to the second one |
| 22:30.48 | ant_ | is it so ? |
| 22:31.24 | ant_ | the second one (bootmenu) sees there is no cmdline and shows the menu |
| 22:31.42 | ant_ | if finds /root in cmdline boots from there |
| 22:32.05 | ant_ | I think this was the last situation / agreement |
| 22:32.07 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3568 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by deller(AT)gmx.de |
| 22:32.09 | cdbot2 | * * Poodle - WPA wifi hangs system when unplugging power cable |
| 22:32.11 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3568 |
| 22:36.11 | RP | ant_: I'm afraid I'm not following closely enough to comment |
| 22:36.33 | ant_ | RP: throw a stone on the ML, comments will follow |
| 22:36.37 | ant_ | ;-) |
| 22:46.08 | LionKMP | may I have a noob question: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lc |
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| 22:54.25 | CIA-22 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rf49a938c... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-rp-2.6.24/hrw-hostapcard.patch): linux-rp-2.6.24: Uncondionally apply a number of patches, add missing patch from poky |
| 22:54.29 | CIA-22 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r8a01d6a6... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-rp_2.6.24.bb): linux-rp-2.6.24: Uncondionally apply a number of patches, add missing patch from poky |
| 22:54.35 | CIA-22 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r771be5e7... 10/ (13 files in 3 dirs): linux-rp-2.6.24: Sync defconfigs with Poky. Making the crypto modules builtin is wrong and compounds an existing space problem, the should be marked as autoloaded. |
| 22:54.44 | CIA-22 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r6ebd050b... 10/ (18 files in 3 dirs): linux-rp-2.6.23: Sync with Poky in the same way as 2.6.24 |
| 22:55.02 | ant_ | ^^^ clap clap |
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