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00:29.50CIA-2303mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rd3f40a7a... 10/ (1 packages/bash/bash.inc packages/bash/bash_3.2.bb): bash 3.2 change the way how mkbuiltin is compiled for host
00:29.55CIA-2303mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r9baecd01... 10/ (6 files in 3 dirs): bash 3.2 fix compiling, this time for real
00:30.00CIA-2303mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r52c7363a... 10/ (1 packages/gstreamer/gst-plugin-pulse_0.9.4.bb): gst-plugin-pulse 0.9.4 remove buggy version, leaving 0.9.7 as the only working one
00:30.04CIA-2303mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r6c0c4205... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/preferred-om-2008-versions.inc): preferred-om-versions: yank removed versions
00:30.09CIA-2303mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * re57c2aac... 10/ (1 packages/bash/bash.inc): bash <all> don't say a word... please
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03:12.00jaemI was just browsing the OE wiki, and saw that this page is trashed (http://oe.linuxtogo.org/wiki/OEandYourDistro). I don't have editing rights.  Anyone care to fix it?
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06:23.15hrwmorning
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09:33.39CIA-2303rpurdie * r1075 10/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Revert the '-' character fix in class names since it breaks things
09:40.07floriangood monring
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09:58.34CIA-2303mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rbfa0fa6a... 10/ (1 MAINTAINERS): MAINTAINERS: claim dropbear
09:58.38CIA-2303mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * ref071af5... 10/ (1 packages/dropbear/dropbear_0.51.bb): dropbear 0.51 remove testing preference and make this the new default
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11:11.03florianbroonie: The register map and block diagram are very useful... found quite some ways to turn off my speaker ;)
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11:42.45hrwARGH
11:42.53hrwNEVER EVER ATI
11:43.10hrw~fuck ati^Wamd for rs485
11:43.15Crofton|workanyone know why I have troble building pulseaudio?
11:43.28dl9pfrs485 ?
11:44.51hrwdl9pf: onboard 'so called' graphics
11:45.28dl9pfaah ... LOL ... i though on RS-485 (companion to RS-232) ...
11:45.36hrw;)
11:45.58dl9pfno wonder ... the card uses a serial - line :D
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12:18.44XorA|lunchhrw: ATI keep going bust, doesnt that hint about their inability to do graphics :-)
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12:32.49XorAhmm, how do I get device files into a .ipk?
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12:38.11hrwXorA: sooner or later amd will decide to close ati part of company
12:38.39dcordesXorA: that's an interesting question. I was wondering how I would get "mknod /dev/smd0 -c 254 2" in the kaiser filesystems automated
12:38.52hrwthey never released docs for rs485 so it just suxx totally in free driver
12:38.59hrwdcordes: what is /dev/smd0?
12:39.01XorAdcordes: get the driver to correctly fill out sysfs
12:39.33hrwdcordes: under 2.6 /dev/ is dynamic - user is not expected to create entries by hand
12:40.12hrwtime to put that 'programming linux kernel' old book in a trash where is its place
12:40.14dcordeshrw: serial device node which provides IO between the arm9 (modem) and arm11 (system) part of the msm7x00x through a shared memory region
12:40.34dcordeswith circular buffers
12:41.13dcordeshrw: XorA maybe something is not mounted correctly on boot time
12:42.02XorAdcordes: udev builds /dev from info in sysfs, if /dev/smd0 is missing, then it misses the correct sysfs entries
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12:42.17hrwthen run udev again to repopulate /dev tree?
12:43.09dcordesiirc /etc/mtab was missing in angstrom filesystem in kaiser builds and something wasn't mounted because of that
12:43.36hrw<PROTECTED>
12:44.54dcordeswell when I did mount -a it said /etc/mtab missing
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12:49.59florianbroonie: spyros wm9705 driver is buggy like hell - the controls are still using some wm9712 registers. And I wondered if I am too stupid to understand how the macros work :)
12:54.59florian~lart codecs
12:54.59ibotdeclares codecs a moron
12:56.20broonieIt's only partially done - he submitted it so he could get the touch screen up on the eXXX devices which use that.
12:56.37XorAflorian: go back to zx spectrum, one bit is all they needed to play sounds
12:57.52florianbroonie: I'll submit a patch once I have the audio stuff working properly. In fact I'm happy that I do not have to write a new codec driver from the scratch...
12:58.01florianXorA: heh
12:58.21broonieflorian: That'd be excellent!
12:59.01CIA-2303mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r06111208... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/sane-srcdates.inc): sane-srcdates.inc: EFL bump
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13:03.26broonieflorian: FWIW you may find the generic ac97.c driver helpful before you get a WM9705 specific driver - it hooks ASoC up to the generic ALSA AC97 support.
13:04.10broonieThe main thing it misses is DAPM, which generic ALSA doesn't have any idea about.
13:08.26florianbroonie: there are quite some things done already... e.g. the register map defaults are adapted. but the definitions for a major share of the controls are wrong.
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13:43.25CIA-2303mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r10247098... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): add alsa-scenario support library (git version)
13:54.58markusflorian: http://linuxtogo.org/gowiki/BuildGpepeUsingOpenEmbedded   <--- is that still valid, or will it fail or something else?
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14:15.48florianmarkus: Its a little bit outdated. It would be better to follow the GettingStarted instructions in OE and build a gpe-image or x11-gpe-image target.
14:16.09florianmarkus: You don't need to set any preferred versions for GPE any more.
14:16.21markususing stable/dev with angstrom 2007.1 ?
14:16.40florianmarkus: stable (!!)
14:17.16markus:)
14:17.37markusbut then it's not a gpe image right?
14:17.44markus*gpephone
14:18.18markusi will try that, even if i suspect that it will fail somehow.
14:18.46florianmarkus: we have both images defined in oe
14:21.18markusi tried to build gpephone-image with stable 2007.1, failed fetching (wrong md5sum) for some gpe targets. and compile failed for apmd
14:21.37markus... i'll try x11-gpe-image
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15:07.56dcordesXorA: Is SRCREV_linux-kaiser = "blalba" correct syntax in local.conf?
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17:28.57like2wiseCrofton: I saw you also hit the pulseaudio/libltdl problem. Any idea on this?
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17:35.48XorATartarus: BTW thanks for the tip, a full 10s saving on gta01 boot time
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17:39.42TartarusXorA|gone, nice
17:40.13TartarusXorA|gone, did you turn off udevtrigger/settle too?  Or just start off with some nodes
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17:51.04Croftonlike2wise, not yet
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17:51.14CroftonI have another task stealing all cycles
17:51.47CroftonI've been pulling and retrying
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18:05.22CIA-2303koen 07org.oe.dev * r36f545ab... 10/ (77 files in 25 dirs):
18:05.22CIA-23lots of recipes: bump PR to get postinsts back
18:05.22CIA-23* this is not a complete list
18:05.22CIA-23* this still doesn't fix the pkg_postinst() type of bugs
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18:25.08XorA|goneTartarus: turned off the trigger settle
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18:51.15CIA-2303koen 07org.oe.dev * r39a25b65... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): pixman: add latest stable and unstable
18:54.33TartarusBah
18:54.43TartarusA lack of "Fn" working on N810 makes cd /dev'ing quite hard
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18:58.41Tartarushey ant_
18:58.52TartarusDo you recall how to see keycodes at console?
18:58.52ant_Tartarus: hi
18:58.55TartarusI got console-image on my N810
18:59.00Tartarusbut no Fn key so no /
18:59.03Tartarusso I can't poke /dev :)
18:59.12ant_nasty
18:59.41TartarusI suppose I can try and hard-code usb0 stuff in
18:59.47Tartaruslemme see if kernel has gadget eth compiled in
19:01.01ant_Tartarus: kbd-1.06.tar.gz contains loadkeys, dumpkeys, showkey, setmetamode,
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19:01.18ant_dumpkeys or showkey
19:01.25TartarusNot in "console-image" by default
19:01.39ant_console-tools?
19:02.15Tartaruslemme just hack in gadget eth :)
19:03.55ant_bbl
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19:11.08woglindehi ph5
19:11.29pH5hi woglinde
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19:14.39woglindehi robert
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19:25.22rschusterhi henning
19:26.14rschusterwoglinde: are you interested in getting qtjambi into OE? I talked with many about this and forgot who that was
19:27.27woglinderschuster hm what is the efford?
19:27.34woglindeor you mean only runtime
19:28.35rschusterwoglinde: runtime? I thought qtjambi is a library?
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19:30.03woglindeah
19:30.07woglindehi smancke *g*
19:30.26woglinderschuster hm right I am only thought about the eclipse plugin sorry
19:30.32smanckeHi woglinde
19:30.57woglindebut when I remeber correctly it was about 30mb or so
19:31.07rschustersmancke: hi sebastian
19:31.19smanckehi robert!
19:31.41rschustersmancke: we are talking about qtjambi integration currently. cekay asked me about it
19:31.57smanckeah, great!
19:32.41rschusterwoglinde: yeah its a big library and it requires more of the native tools from qt4
19:33.40rschusterwoglinde: I investigated qtjambi integration some months ago and failed because it would need a better qt4-native (more modular) recipe/package of which I lack understanding
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19:34.38kariowhat books would you guys recommend on linux kernel development?
19:34.55woglindekario puh
19:35.07woglindethe books getting really fast old
19:41.43smanckerschuster: do the changes in the build system of the fresh release help with it?
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19:43.41rschustersmancke: had no time to look at those
19:44.51rschusterkario: corbet/rubini/kroah-hartmann "linux device drivers"
19:45.05rschusterkario: at least if your interested in device driver development
19:45.22woglindehm hasnt robert love a new book at
19:45.25woglindeout
19:45.34rschusterkario: it is also available freely (CC-BY-SA) as PDF
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19:48.41woglindekario this could be good too http://www.amazon.com/Linux-System-Programming-Talking-Directly/dp/0596009585/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1213127287&sr=1-3
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19:53.35keesjwoglinde: I did get that book at linuxtag and I must say I like the aproach they tool writing it
19:53.59woglindekeesj robert love was there?
19:54.15keesjbut what is more platfrom/system programming
19:54.35keesjwoglinde: sorry I don't know much people by name
19:55.12woglindekeesj there arent many books about linux kernel programming
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19:56.28keesjTere they always say , user the force. read the .. but of course linux device drivers is a "must"
19:59.03kario\o/ thanks for the tips
20:00.16keesjkario: and about embedded linux in general I liked http://www.amazon.com/Embedded-Linux-Primer-Real-World-Development/dp/0131679848/ref=pd_sim_b_img_5
20:01.32keesjI gets you into the fine time consuming art of spending to much time behind your computer
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20:48.16ant_er
20:48.31ant_woglinde: ping
20:49.02Tartarusant_, udev-118 is good on nokia810, fyi :)
20:49.12woglindehi ant
20:49.13TartarusAdded a comment to the bug, starting to dig elsewhere in the bg
20:49.19Tartarusswitches back to work stuff :)
20:49.28ant_Tartarus: I'm rebuilding now from scratch, bitbake is repaired
20:50.00Tartarusk
20:50.07ant_woglinde: did you ever compile mysql for oe?
20:50.12Tartarussees, happily, he was on r1070 up until, and still, right now
20:50.21woglindeant aaaahhhh wahaha you said the m word
20:50.24ant_I did iy by mistake and it fails: http://tinderbox.openembedded.net/public/logs/216493.txt
20:50.39woglindeant one of the last think on earth for me were compile mysql for oe
20:50.46ant_(I think gpsd gpsdrive or navit pulled it in)
20:50.56ant_(-c buildall)
20:54.23ant_woglinde: does the wrong path look like a libtool issue (for mysql)?
20:55.16ant_I don't need mysql on Z, is just to improve my (poor) debug skills
20:58.04woglindeant sorry gen_lex_hash doesnt say me smoething
20:58.40ant_woglinde: forget about it, I'll open a bug perhaps later
20:59.15ant_I'm anxious to see if udev now works...
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21:56.14kergothwhy are 90% of the telecommute jobs posted online either admin or LAMP?  it makes me sad
21:58.57materdaddywhy does that make you sad?
22:02.55kergothcause i'm not an admin or web guy, clearly :)
22:06.33CIA-2303koen 07org.oe.dev * re5e89d63... 10/ (13 files in 2 dirs): gcc 4.3.0: replace with gcc 4.3.1
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23:31.02TartarusBah, linux-rp 2.6.24 is busted for tosa atm
23:31.04Tartarus!oebug 4294
23:31.05cdbot2* * Bug 4294, Status: UNCONFIRMED, Created: 2008-05-23 21:09
23:31.06cdbot2* * <OE-Autobuilder>: linux-rp-2.6.24-autobuild
23:31.08cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4294
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