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| 09:30.35 | nerochiaro | anyone can tell me where i can find documentation on how to write and use bb classes ? the docs on oe.linuxtogo.org are all messed up, i can't find this information there |
| 09:30.42 | nerochiaro | http://oe.linuxtogo.org/user-manual&dpage=metadata_classes |
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| 09:43.16 | methril | morning |
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| 09:54.50 | czr_ | hmm. seems that the "GettingStarted" wiki page is not interpretering the markup, can someone verify this: http://oe.linuxtogo.org/wiki/GettingStarted |
| 09:55.25 | czr_ | also, how up to date is the page anyway, last edit seems to be from 2006-05-28 (I'm just starting with oe) |
| 09:57.00 | czr_ | also the link to "documentation" seems ironically to 404, with a self-reference on the 404 page ;-): http://oe.linuxtogo.org/documentation |
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| 09:58.58 | XorA | czr_: I have one thing to say OH FSCK |
| 09:59.13 | czr_ | XorA, and that helps how? :-) |
| 09:59.50 | XorA | czr_: well it indicates its a new issue :-) |
| 10:00.01 | hrw | morning |
| 10:00.03 | czr_ | I'm considering using oe for our target, and trying to find out the amount of work required really. So looking for some tutorials/docs etc :-) |
| 10:00.27 | czr_ | XorA, is the 'webmaster' or whoever runs the site around? |
| 10:00.30 | hrw | czr_: http://wiki.openembedded.net/ and http://pokylinux.org/ I suggest |
| 10:00.36 | XorA | hrw: can you edit the mainpage to link to the new wiki? |
| 10:01.25 | hrw | probably |
| 10:01.25 | czr_ | hrw, ah, thanks. seems that the regular pages contain invalid links to wiki and such |
| 10:01.40 | czr_ | as does this channel topic (which points to the normal site, which is redirected to oe.linuxtogo..) |
| 10:02.09 | hrw | XorA: but this is drupal so I prefer to not touch it too much |
| 10:02.27 | XorA | hrw: a couple of links should be easy enough |
| 10:03.01 | hrw | wants something sane for oe website |
| 10:03.19 | czr_ | vi? ;-) /me hides & runs |
| 10:03.53 | XorA | hrw: just one thing to watch out, when you edit drupal, the cached page will show up for a while afterwards |
| 10:04.05 | hrw | ok - link changed |
| 10:04.14 | hrw | now documentation points to new wiki |
| 10:04.36 | hrw | ~curse drupal anyway for all evil |
| 10:04.39 | ibot | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, drupal anyway for all evil ! |
| 10:04.45 | czr_ | much better. |
| 10:05.12 | czr_ | hmm. is anyone here working with cm-x270? |
| 10:05.32 | czr_ | it's pretty close to what I'm working with (toradex colibri 270) |
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| 10:06.43 | hrw | cm-x270 is supported |
| 10:06.54 | czr_ | I noticed, that's why I asked ;-) |
| 10:09.57 | hrw | cbrake maintains it |
| 10:10.27 | czr_ | does he hang around here? |
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| 10:34.04 | hrw | yes - during US time |
| 10:34.37 | czr_ | thanks, I'll bug him later then. |
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| 10:52.05 | methril | crz_ i'm going to do some work with it |
| 10:52.16 | czr_ | methril, cm or toradex? |
| 10:52.26 | methril | cm |
| 10:52.55 | czr_ | methril, cool. we have couple of cms here as well. just trying to learn oe at the moment though.. :-) |
| 10:53.20 | methril | i'm into oe learning too, & openmoko & some u-boot & .... :) |
| 10:53.38 | czr_ | heh, I'll pass on openmoko, but otherwise .. :-) |
| 10:53.49 | czr_ | methril, have you used openocd btw? |
| 10:54.13 | methril | yes, for other board and with a JTAGKey |
| 10:54.20 | czr_ | if so, I'd be interested in your setup. I was using amontec usb-jtags but failed to get any kind of co-operation |
| 10:54.30 | czr_ | methril, but no pxa270? |
| 10:54.58 | methril | not yet |
| 10:55.28 | methril | yes, i had some trouble, and finally i'll get it working changing the name |
| 10:55.31 | czr_ | methril, ok. ping me if you manage to get it working. I have a config that _should_ work, but I couldn't get anything sane over the JTAG still.. |
| 10:55.41 | methril | ok |
| 10:56.06 | methril | but it's going to take some days, i'm in other task right now |
| 10:57.17 | czr_ | methril, oh, that's fine, I'm not in a hurry. trying to get into grasps with oe now :-), and I've got a funny feeling that it will take some time ;-) |
| 10:58.34 | methril | it will (at least it's taking some time for me) :) |
| 11:01.07 | czr_ | nods |
| 11:01.29 | czr_ | methril, btw, are you still using the compulab supplied rootfs? |
| 11:02.34 | methril | i'm looking for some "minimal" image or making a new one with oe |
| 11:02.41 | methril | hard work |
| 11:03.05 | czr_ | methril, yeah, I know what you mean :-) |
| 11:03.39 | methril | i think that it's like everything, you only need to invest time to get it work :) |
| 11:04.27 | czr_ | methril, indeed. one needs to learn how to walk first.. |
| 11:04.37 | methril | yes |
| 11:05.01 | methril | but i see some people here, that it's a guru and have some dependencies nightmares :) |
| 11:05.16 | methril | let's start to walk, and let's see how it's going on :) |
| 11:05.35 | czr_ | methril, I'd imagine dep-hell being quite common for a living target like .dev branch is :-). I'm going to try with .stable first. |
| 11:06.15 | czr_ | question, I'm currently editing my local.conf and wondering where I should look for the various DISTRO and MACHINE choices? |
| 11:06.27 | hrw | use angstrom-2008.1 as distro |
| 11:06.36 | hrw | 2007.1 for .stable |
| 11:06.37 | czr_ | hrw, that works in stable? |
| 11:06.39 | czr_ | ah. |
| 11:06.53 | hrw | or try Poky instead of OE :D |
| 11:07.08 | czr_ | hrw, what's the difference? |
| 11:07.17 | czr_ | I'm trying to get a minimal environment at first |
| 11:07.48 | hrw | Poky is each day tested for building. cm-x270 is one of tested platforms |
| 11:08.08 | hrw | OE is fast moving target but .stable should be buildable |
| 11:08.40 | czr_ | hmh. so DISTRO="andstrom-2007.1" and MACHINE="cm-x270", right? |
| 11:09.54 | hrw | yes |
| 11:10.06 | hrw | and then 'bitbake console-image' |
| 11:10.23 | czr_ | ty |
| 11:10.53 | czr_ | is parallel make useful for stable? |
| 11:11.00 | methril | hrw did you test em-x270? |
| 11:12.46 | czr_ | hrw, console-image is the smallest sane set of packages? |
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| 11:15.06 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug has been RESOLVED by dkm(AT)kataplop.net |
| 11:15.09 | cdbot2 | * * dbus-1.2.1-r2 on h500/glibc/angstrom needs expat |
| 11:15.10 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id= |
| 11:19.42 | czr_ | if one only runs console-image, does a BBFILES of ../packages/*/*.bb make sense? |
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| 11:28.49 | hrw | methril: em-x270 is also built |
| 11:30.10 | hrw | methril: c7x0 cm-x270 em-x270 htcuniversal akita spitz qemuarm qemux86 zylonite mx31ads mx31litekit mx31phy om-gta01 om-gta02 nokia770 nokia800 |
| 11:31.15 | hrw | methril: it is about 8h of building |
| 11:34.01 | czr_ | hrw, any hints on how to speed up the build process when I have multiple computers each with ample memory and multiple cores? |
| 11:34.59 | hrw | czr_: http://blog.haerwu.biz/2008/04/07/speeding-up-bitbake-builds/ |
| 11:35.22 | hrw | thats describe how to make it faster with one machine |
| 11:35.38 | hrw | with more you need to use icecream but I did not tried that yet so cannot help |
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| 11:39.37 | nerochiaro | hrw: you probably need to setup distcc as your compiler, but it's just a guess |
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| 11:40.46 | hrw | nerochiaro: icecream is distcc+++ |
| 11:41.33 | methril | thanks hrw |
| 11:41.58 | nerochiaro | hrw: sorry, that was for czr_ |
| 11:42.11 | nerochiaro | and it was late too |
| 11:42.35 | czr_ | nods |
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| 11:42.46 | czr_ | I've used distcc before but was wondering whether oe has some specific requirements |
| 11:43.31 | czr_ | hmmh. task failed \o/ |
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| 11:46.42 | czr_ | is it safe to press Ctrl+C and then restart bitbake later? |
| 11:46.53 | XorA | czr_: yes |
| 11:47.57 | czr_ | ah nice, controlled TERM :-) |
| 11:48.14 | hrw | ~curse cmake |
| 11:48.15 | ibot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, cmake ! |
| 11:48.23 | czr_ | heh |
| 11:48.41 | czr_ | the local.conf had some warnings about enabling parallel makes with -j N, does this still hold for .stable? |
| 11:49.38 | hrw | I use PARALLEL_MAKE since do not remember when |
| 11:49.53 | czr_ | ok, I'm enabling it then. |
| 11:49.56 | hrw | packages which breaks were mostly marked as such and have it disabled |
| 11:50.21 | czr_ | where can I find info on icecream? |
| 11:50.24 | czr_ | ah, excellent. |
| 11:53.04 | czr_ | nevermind, found it ( http://en.opensuse.org/Icecream ) |
| 11:54.00 | czr_ | hmm. is it normal for the qemu-native built to take ages? |
| 11:55.38 | nerochiaro | i'm trying to create a clean graph using "bitbake -g -I virtual/libc mystuff" but i keep seeing a lot of package -> virtual/libc in the dot file that's generated. what am i doing wrong ? |
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| 11:58.23 | lomur | oe |
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| 12:06.50 | hrw | nothing? |
| 12:07.02 | lomur | oe |
| 12:07.04 | hrw | ah.. -I is ignore... |
| 12:07.08 | hrw | then no idea |
| 12:07.17 | lomur | oe |
| 12:07.35 | nerochiaro | -I is ignore, but doesn't seem to be able to ignore virtual/libc, or even just libc |
| 12:07.46 | lomur | oe |
| 12:07.56 | hrw | ~seen zecke |
| 12:08.14 | ibot | zecke is currently on #oe (8h 18m 24s), last said: 'stefan_schmidt: hehe, I understand you, I just wanted to highlight why I'm single :)'. |
| 12:08.14 | lomur | oe |
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| 12:08.17 | lomur | or |
| 12:08.48 | lomur | oe |
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| 12:10.59 | lomur | oe |
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| 12:15.30 | zecke | hrw: yes? |
| 12:15.36 | lomur | oe |
| 12:15.49 | hrw | zecke: cmake.bbclass is your creation |
| 12:16.03 | zecke | hrw: no, not really |
| 12:16.14 | zecke | hrw: mickeyl and me factored it out somewhere at the same time |
| 12:16.18 | hrw | ok |
| 12:16.35 | hrw | zecke: do you know where cmake expects to see *.cmake files (from 3rd party libs)? |
| 12:16.55 | lomur | oe |
| 12:17.10 | zecke | hrw: I have no idea, you might even want to look into the new cross compile support of cmake... |
| 12:17.16 | lomur | oe |
| 12:18.04 | hrw | ok |
| 12:18.11 | lomur | oe |
| 12:18.38 | zecke | lomur: please leave :) |
| 12:18.55 | lomur | zecke sucks |
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| 12:24.02 | lomur | oe |
| 12:24.30 | czr_ | sees the image of a boot materializing out of thin air |
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| 12:33.38 | czr_ | hrw, I noticed there's a angstrom-2008.1.conf as well in stable. is it a working one or why did you recommend using 2007.1? |
| 12:40.49 | czr_ | ah, to answer my own question, 2008.1 is "unstable" in stable :-) |
| 12:48.53 | hrw | czr_: in .stable only 2007.1 is tested and suggested |
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| 12:49.41 | czr_ | hrw, yup, figured that out, thanks. what would be the "most stable" distro in .dev though? |
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| 12:54.22 | hrw | angstrom-2008.1 |
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| 13:03.02 | czr_ | thanks |
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| 13:54.25 | kgilmer | Good morning. Anyone going to be at Oscon in Portland OR next month? |
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| 13:57.56 | hrw | kgilmer: this OR next month? |
| 13:58.40 | kgilmer | Hi hrw. July 21st |
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| 13:59.27 | hrw | kgilmer: 'Portland OR' is not readable for non-US |
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| 14:00.53 | kgilmer | hrw: ah, ok :) http://en.oreilly.com/oscon2008/public/content/home |
| 14:01.10 | kgilmer | oh...I get it. AND/OR |
| 14:01.18 | mwester | :) |
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| 14:02.28 | hrw | I suppose that you meant Oregon as OR |
| 14:03.23 | kgilmer | hrw: yes, that was it. |
| 14:04.12 | kgilmer | "OR" seems to be a bad abbreviation for a US state :( |
| 14:04.34 | hrw | kgilmer: I will not be there for 1000% |
| 14:04.48 | XorA | its a bit far for me to swim and cycle |
| 14:08.13 | kgilmer | hrw, XorA: ok... I will be there in any case and will talk a bit about OE. |
| 14:08.23 | XorA | kgilmer: cool |
| 14:08.31 | ade|desk | XorA: you seems to lack motivation |
| 14:08.42 | kgilmer | what about LinuxWorld or 0redev ? |
| 14:09.12 | kgilmer | LinuxWorld: SF in August. 0redev: Sweden in Nov (brrr) |
| 14:09.38 | ade|desk | XorA: add a run in for that little extra |
| 14:09.55 | hrw | kgilmer: I attend GUADEC and then rather nothing |
| 14:10.03 | XorA | ade|desk: super iron man marathon :-) |
| 14:10.24 | XorA | you can join me carrying your desk |
| 14:10.27 | ade|desk | dodge the ice |
| 14:10.29 | hrw | kgilmer: and going to USA is not for me - I decided long time ago to avoid it |
| 14:10.47 | mbuf | if i want to package and build my own set of packages, without requiring OE mtn repo, how can I do that? |
| 14:10.59 | ade|desk | heh leave this desk in 5 weeks, finally |
| 14:11.04 | XorA | is in USA in Sept |
| 14:11.10 | hrw | brb |
| 14:11.20 | kgilmer | hrw: I understand :) |
| 14:11.59 | kgilmer | mbuf: Poky does that. |
| 14:12.20 | mbuf | kgilmer, i see |
| 14:12.33 | kgilmer | mbuf: Poky ends up creating meta-[your stuff] directores that you add to BBPATH etc |
| 14:12.49 | mbuf | any HOWTO or tutorial to get started with this approach? other than http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Getting_Started one? |
| 14:13.20 | RP | mbuf: http://pokylinux.org ;-) |
| 14:13.34 | mbuf | RP, ok; looking into it already |
| 14:14.12 | kgilmer | mbuf: yep. You can see after getting it setup that OpenMoko has it's own meta directory. We are using the same stragey to add BUG support. |
| 14:14.25 | RP | http://pokylinux.org/doc/poky-handbook.html |
| 14:14.58 | mbuf | RP, got that; thanks! |
| 14:15.38 | mbuf | yes, poky is the one that i was looking for |
| 14:16.24 | cbrake | mbuf: there is also a git repo of the OE metadata available if you want to skip monotone. The only time I use monotone any more is to commit changes. |
| 14:16.47 | cbrake | mbuf: http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Git |
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| 14:17.12 | mbuf | cbrake, but, are you guys planning to move to git, fully? |
| 14:17.28 | cbrake | mbuf: yes, last I heard that is the plan |
| 14:17.36 | mbuf | cbrake, ok |
| 14:19.11 | cbrake | mbuf: I'm in the process of moving all my customer build systems over to git. Its much easier as I already have git hosting infrastructure in place (as many people do for kernel work). |
| 14:19.26 | mbuf | cbrake, i see |
| 14:19.30 | mbuf | CosmicPenguin, howdy! |
| 14:19.48 | CosmicPenguin | Greetings |
| 14:24.45 | kgilmer | my two cents IRT monotone: it was only complaint in migrating to OE. "Yet another SCR?!" |
| 14:24.59 | kgilmer | complaint internally from developers I mean. |
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| 14:32.33 | czr_ | silly question, I've setup OE/stable/angstrom-2007.1, my board succsefully boots off rootfs now, the default dropbear doesn't seem to allow root-login. how do I do that? |
| 14:32.38 | Jin^eLD | besides minimo, what other embedded browsers are there, especially in OE? |
| 14:32.56 | XorA | epiphany |
| 14:33.03 | XorA | OE has the webkit version |
| 14:33.21 | Jin^eLD | thanks |
| 14:35.29 | do13 | czr_: dropbear in stable doesn't allow password-less logins |
| 14:35.49 | czr_ | do13, any easy way to disable this? (or rather, enable passwordless logins) |
| 14:36.05 | do13 | have a look at dropbear.inc |
| 14:37.07 | do13 | you need the allow-nopw.patch. But it is only added in debug releases |
| 14:37.15 | hrw | DISTRO_TYPE="debug" == password less build |
| 14:37.18 | czr_ | hmph :-). |
| 14:37.27 | czr_ | but I guess that would affect other things as well.. |
| 14:37.54 | czr_ | is there a way to target that variable only for dropbear? |
| 14:40.35 | czr_ | ok. another question then, what magic do I need to put into /etc/ipkg.conf so that I can install ipkg-files from under tmp/deploy over the LAN? |
| 14:40.43 | czr_ | (nfs would be preferred I guess) |
| 14:41.18 | hrw | "src anyname file://place/where/nfs/is/mounted/and/full/path/to/directory/with/ipk/packages |
| 14:41.21 | hrw | " |
| 14:41.23 | czr_ | thanks |
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| 14:42.07 | czr_ | hmm. where is the default feed stored in? I don't see any defined ones in /etc/ipkg.conf now, but ipkg update still attempts to pull from www.angstrom-distribution... |
| 14:42.45 | hrw | czr_: angstrom has 'feed-configs' package |
| 14:42.50 | hrw | I do not remember exact name |
| 14:43.03 | XorA | /etc/opkg/*.conf |
| 14:43.07 | czr_ | angstrom-feed-configs |
| 14:43.08 | czr_ | thanks |
| 14:45.30 | Jin^eLD | hmm, mkfs.jffs - which .bb recipe provides this utility? |
| 14:46.48 | Jin^eLD | is it part of the mtd-utils? |
| 14:47.13 | hrw | yes |
| 14:47.37 | mwester | What's the currently-valid way to determine who's the maintainer for a given package? |
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| 14:49.14 | XorA | look in MAINTAINERS |
| 14:52.04 | mwester | Ok, thanks. (I ask because none of the broken recipes on a list here have entries therein) |
| 14:52.14 | XorA | free for all then :-) |
| 14:53.04 | mwester | Yeah, or I guess it means that nobody cares too much about them, and they go lower on my priority list of things to fix. :) |
| 14:53.33 | mwester | Although I'm surprised that nobody "owns" openssh... |
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| 14:54.35 | XorA | no-one wants the blame for the security issues :-) |
| 14:54.43 | XorA | whats broken on ssh? |
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| 14:59.19 | czr_ | hmm. after ipkg update I see that I have packages with alsa-utils-aplay ( grep alsa-utils-aplay /var/lib/ipkg/dl-list-arm shows it), but then when I try to ipkg install alsa-utils-aplay, it complains that no such package exists. what gives? |
| 15:00.26 | czr_ | also ipkg install /mnt/ipkg/armv5te/alsa-utils-aplay_1.0.15-r1_arv5te.ipk fails ("cannot find package..") |
| 15:00.47 | czr_ | there are a lot of lines like: "Clearing state_want and state_flag for pkg=wireless-tools (arch_priority=0 flag=0 want=2)", these signify errors? |
| 15:02.03 | mwester | XorA: the post-install script should check for the existence of the user id before trying to create them... |
| 15:02.19 | mwester | (trivial) |
| 15:05.44 | czr_ | hmm. ipkg print_architecture displays: arch all 1\n arch noarch 1\n arch arm 10 |
| 15:05.49 | czr_ | I'm guessing this is wrong.. |
| 15:05.57 | czr_ | where can I change that? |
| 15:06.21 | czr_ | ah, /me kicks himself for renaming /etc/ipkg to /etc/_ipkg |
| 15:08.17 | XorA | mwester: could add || true after both those lines |
| 15:09.52 | mwester | That's certainly an easy enough fix. I'll probably add it -- nothing is breaking, it's just ugly at first boot. |
| 15:10.14 | XorA | mwester: just that grepping is such a horrible way to test for users/groups |
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| 15:10.47 | czr_ | last question, assuming I'd just want to compile a simple hello-world'esque C program, what would be the easiest way to do it after OE is setup? |
| 15:11.13 | czr_ | writing a custom recipe seems like an overkill in this case |
| 15:11.39 | XorA | SSHD=`grep sshd /etc/passwd | cut -f 1 -d :` if [ -n "$SSHD" ] ; then |
| 15:12.19 | XorA | czr_: tmp/cross/bin/arm-*-gcc -o hello hello.c |
| 15:12.30 | czr_ | XorA, exactly what I needed, thanks |
| 15:14.11 | XorA | I meant -z in that if |
| 15:15.41 | mwester | Ick. That would mean I'd have to trust busybox's grep, cut, and ash more than I do! |
| 15:15.56 | XorA | mwester: I just tested that on device :-) |
| 15:16.06 | czr_ | hmm. ipkg doesn't do dependency resolving when installing packagse? |
| 15:16.17 | XorA | root@om-gta01:~# grep ssh /etc/passwd | cut -f 1 -d : |
| 15:16.17 | XorA | ssh |
| 15:17.29 | mwester | Works on the latest SlugOS as well... |
| 15:23.48 | czr_ | XorA, hrw, thanks a lot. now the board plays oggs over nfs. at least if this project fails, we'll have made an extremely expensive "mp3"-player ;-) |
| 15:25.10 | hrw | czr_: cm-x270 based? |
| 15:25.37 | czr_ | hrw, toradex colibri 270 actually. but yes, I used cm-x270 |
| 15:25.41 | czr_ | config in oe. |
| 15:25.52 | czr_ | the kernel is not from OE (yet) |
| 15:26.05 | czr_ | userspace is 100% angstrom 2007.1 |
| 15:26.52 | hrw | nice |
| 15:27.20 | czr_ | (the audio output capability is actually the least important part of the project, but still, nice to see that OE works and wasn't all too difficult yet) |
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| 16:21.57 | mwester | Are .pyc and .pyo files architecture-independent? |
| 16:22.15 | hrw | I hate cmake |
| 16:23.33 | Genesis | me too |
| 16:23.49 | Genesis | all our devel here are cmake because manager is a macos addict. |
| 16:24.06 | Genesis | he wanted me provide such update tool as the iphone ... |
| 16:26.10 | florian | hrw: welcome to the club |
| 16:26.49 | hrw | 2.6.0 got cross-compilation support... |
| 16:26.58 | chouimat|work | hrw: cmake is not perfect but it's a lot better and more sane that autohell |
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| 16:27.03 | hrw | I would not comment |
| 16:27.08 | florian | :-) |
| 16:27.12 | hrw | chouimat|work: autotools works. cmake require hacking |
| 16:27.35 | chouimat|work | hrw: never got autohell working ... but cmake is a charm ... anyway for me :) |
| 16:27.36 | hrw | I love 'build-in-src.patch' |
| 16:27.50 | hrw | chouimat|work: as long as you do not cross compile... |
| 16:28.16 | hrw | it search for cmake/modules in PATH instead of CROSS_COMPILE_FIND_PATH etc |
| 16:28.17 | chouimat|work | hrw: some stuff here I can't crosscompile ... |
| 16:28.23 | florian | chouimat|work: I admit it is faster, but its buggy and even more full intransparent magig than autofoo |
| 16:29.01 | hrw | chouimat|work: in 4.0 cmake will get up to autotools from 2007 |
| 16:29.11 | chouimat|work | honestly I didn't try 2.6 cross-compile support |
| 16:29.17 | hrw | but this will in 2010 or later |
| 16:29.23 | chouimat|work | anyway brb food time :) |
| 16:29.25 | hrw | chouimat|work: I did. |
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| 16:37.35 | Tartarus | Hmm |
| 16:37.54 | Tartarus | Does anyone know if INHIBIT_PACKAGE_STRIP works at the sub-package level? |
| 16:38.02 | tharvey | anyone familiar with building an external toolchain with OE? Looks like thats what packages/meta/meta-toolchain-* is all about right? |
| 16:38.40 | Jin^eLD | tharvey: if you can avoid it... don't use meta-toolchain :) ok, I do not know if it works in .dev, but it was a nightmare in .stable fo rme |
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| 16:39.58 | tharvey | I need to be able to provide an external toolchain thats independent of the oe tree - would you provide building it another way then using oe's support for using an external toolchain then? |
| 16:40.15 | Jin^eLD | tharvey: well, that's the catch, isn't it? |
| 16:40.27 | Jin^eLD | if you build one yourself, then it's not the same that was used by OE to build all the other stuff |
| 16:40.48 | tharvey | I'm trying now a 'bitbake meta-toolchain-sbox' in .stable which I would assume is supposed to build a toolchain suiteable for scratchbox - it seems to be building all libs as well which I don't understand |
| 16:41.08 | tharvey | Jin^eLD, OE does have some vars you can define to have it use an external toolchain |
| 16:41.26 | florian | tharvey: Yes, it builds a root filesystem to be used with screatchbox as well. |
| 16:41.45 | Jin^eLD | I had to painfully fix various issues to get it to work, this did cost me tons of time |
| 16:41.58 | tharvey | ah... that explains it... is there another package I should be using to create a pre-built toolchain then? |
| 16:42.36 | florian | tharvey: the meta-toolchain-* ones - select the one depending on the libraries you need. |
| 16:43.37 | tharvey | select the 'one' what? |
| 16:44.00 | florian | tharvey: oen of the mata-toolchain packages. |
| 16:44.20 | tharvey | and the meta-toolchains all build a rootfs? |
| 16:44.34 | florian | no, only the -sbox ones |
| 16:46.02 | tharvey | I see... by virtue of task-sdk-sbox which it adds |
| 16:46.43 | tharvey | Jin^eLD, which meta-toolchain did you have issues with? |
| 16:46.48 | tharvey | what about the openmoko toolchain? |
| 16:50.09 | tharvey | or just 'bitbake meta-toolchain' itself? |
| 16:50.58 | florian | tharvey: the latter provides a quite basic toolchain |
| 16:52.00 | Genesis | bye |
| 16:52.18 | tharvey | so 'bitbake meta-toolchain' builds a basic toolchain and puts it in $TMPDIR/deploy/sdk, then 'bitbake external-toolchain' will setup the staging dir to use it right? |
| 16:54.03 | florian | did not try to use an external toolchain yet |
| 16:54.08 | Jin^eLD | tharvey: meta-toolchain as found in oe stable |
| 16:54.22 | hrw | chouimat|work: ping |
| 16:54.32 | Jin^eLD | tharvey: I did not use "external-toolchain" |
| 16:54.34 | hrw | chouimat|work: project A was autotools based and supported "--disable-python" parametr in configure call. now it just check does Python devel is available or not. how to add some kind of "--disable-python" functionality to get non-Python build even if Python devel is available? |
| 16:55.24 | tharvey | Jin^eLD, from what I can see the meta-toolchain recipe builds the toolchain in an SDK directory but you would have to use the 'external-toolchain' recipe to actually use it (as that sets up all the staging dirs) |
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| 16:55.51 | Jin^eLD | tharvey: only if you wanted to use it within OE, our customer used it without OE |
| 16:56.25 | tharvey | Jin^eLD, ah... yes. I have the requirement that the build system generate a toolchain that is used with it, and could be used also outside it |
| 16:57.04 | ant|work | Tartarus: hi, will you be around on #oe later on ? |
| 16:57.22 | tharvey | it would seem that if you had issues with meta-toolchain's building of a toolchain you could build/obtain a toolchain elsewhere then use external-toolchain to have OE utilize that particular one |
| 16:57.29 | Tartarus | ant|work, probably, yes :) |
| 16:57.52 | ant|work | ok, going home, bbl in 3-4 hours, cheers ;-) |
| 16:58.04 | Jin^eLD | tharvey: you can use prebuilt, non OE built toolchains with OE but that's usually not a good solution |
| 16:58.12 | Jin^eLD | sorry I gotta run now |
| 16:58.20 | tharvey | ok thx |
| 17:02.57 | tharvey | looks like openmoko does exactly what I'm looking for (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain) - uses meta-toolchain-openmoko based on meta-toolchain to build a toolchain that can be used external to OE as well as used by OE to create the openmoko distro |
| 17:05.19 | Tartarus | tharvey, in .stable or .dev? |
| 17:05.33 | Tartarus | iirc, poky has "usable" meta-toolchain junk too, and that was merged into .dev not too long ago |
| 17:09.24 | tharvey | I've been looking at stable as I'm just not sure if dev is usable? |
| 17:12.46 | tharvey | I was looking at Poky yesterday... looks like its yet another linux build system (derived from OE). They mention they are 'compatible' with OE, but it would seem to me they are completely based off of it (a subset?) |
| 17:17.07 | hrw | Poky is based on OE |
| 17:17.13 | hrw | ~poky |
| 17:17.16 | ibot | hmm... poky is an open source platform build tool based on OpenEmbedded. It is a complete software development environment for the creation of Linux devices. It enables you to design, develop, build, debug, and test a complete, modern, software stack using Linux, the X Window System and GNOME Mobile based application frameworks for both ARM and x86 based platforms. Website: http://pokylinux.org/ |
| 17:17.25 | hrw | ah.. marketing ;D |
| 17:17.30 | dcordes_ | haha nice ad hrw |
| 17:18.14 | hrw | tharvey: in short: Poky is subset of OpenEmbedded - targetted at ARM and x86 systems with X11 based environments |
| 17:20.44 | tharvey | does Poky pull from the OE repo or do they just pull bitbake plus a collection of recipes? |
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| 17:21.28 | cbrake | tharvey: these days, I think OE does more pulling from Poky :-) |
| 17:22.31 | hrw | tharvey: it is both directions |
| 17:23.00 | hrw | tharvey: Richard (RP) and I are paid for working on Poky so if something breaks there we fix it |
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| 17:23.19 | hrw | tharvey: many of our changes land in OE, we grab changes from OE into Poky etc |
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| 17:26.13 | florian | bbl |
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| 17:44.17 | cyrilRomain | morning |
| 17:50.38 | pH5 | hi cyrilRomain |
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| 18:31.49 | CIA-5 | fetchmail: updated to latest release with security patch. |
| 18:31.49 | CIA-5 | Now also creates the fetchmailconf package. |
| 18:31.53 | CIA-5 | 03mwester 07org.oe.dev * re54d885d... 10/ (1 packages/meta/slugos-packages.bb): SlugOS Package Feeds: promote fetchmail back into the feeds |
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| 22:23.39 | henomis79 | hi, is there a way to compile a single package with a specific gcc version |
| 22:23.55 | henomis79 | ? |
| 22:25.43 | woglinde | henomis79 sorry no |
| 22:25.55 | woglinde | version deps arent implemented in bitbake yet |
| 22:27.29 | henomis79 | ok...and is there a 2.4 kernel package? |
| 22:27.41 | woglinde | for some machines yet |
| 22:27.46 | woglinde | yes |
| 22:27.56 | woglinde | hm ah wait sorry |
| 22:28.03 | woglinde | for kernel there is something |
| 22:28.04 | woglinde | mom |
| 22:30.53 | woglinde | hm you could look at opensimpad_2.4.25-vrs2-pxa1-jpm1.bb |
| 22:31.02 | woglinde | but dont know if it works |
| 22:31.52 | otavio | Are GIT already being the main repo? |
| 22:32.01 | henomis79 | woglinde: tnx i'll try |
| 22:32.56 | woglinde | otavio dont thinkso |
| 22:34.43 | otavio | cd |
| 22:34.49 | otavio | ops |
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| 22:48.26 | cyrilRomain | otavio: git repo is up-to-date, if that answers your question |
| 22:52.55 | otavio | cyrilRomain: no, i'd like to know if I could send a pull request in git ... but i'll wait it to be the main one |
| 22:52.58 | otavio | cyrilRomain: no problem |
| 22:56.04 | cyrilRomain | otavio: pull ? no problem. For push access, I don't think accounts are transfered from mtn so you have to ask someone |
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| 22:58.30 | CIA-5 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * ra0bf1d98... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): stage-manager: Fix sed error (from poky) |
| 22:58.34 | CIA-5 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r573afd79... 10/ (1 classes/packaged-staging.bbclass): packaged-staging.bbclass: Make sure opkg's libdir exists in all cases for lockfiles (from poky) |
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| 23:01.11 | woglinde | hi crofton |
| 23:01.31 | Crofton | gm |
| 23:01.34 | sakoman | gm |
| 23:02.03 | sakoman | With the latest .dev I'm getting a build failure with pulseaudio: |
| 23:02.05 | sakoman | libtool: link: cannot find the library `../libltdl/libltdl.la' or unhandled argument `../libltdl/libltdl.la' |
| 23:02.16 | sakoman | Any ideas? |
| 23:02.32 | sakoman | libtool has been very naughty lately |
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| 23:04.16 | Crofton | libtdl again |
| 23:04.48 | Crofton | crap, I was hoping pulse audio would be better when I go t back |
| 23:05.22 | sakoman | log at: http://www.sakoman.net:8000/public/logs/6208.txt |
| 23:07.05 | Crofton | noted he isn' quite back yet :) |
| 23:07.36 | Crofton | sakoman, what machine/image? |
| 23:08.08 | sakoman | beagleboard, beagleboard-demo-image |
| 23:08.24 | Crofton | demo image is in .dev? |
| 23:08.31 | sakoman | precisely |
| 23:08.45 | Crofton | I am going to start a build |
| 23:09.20 | sakoman | I set up an autobuilder. It has been failing regularly on that image, always pulseaudio |
| 23:09.41 | sakoman | even clean build fails |
| 23:10.46 | Crofton | apparently the poky fix breaks 1.5.10 libtool builds :( |
| 23:11.18 | Crofton | that was fridayus state |
| 23:22.02 | sakoman | Crofton: I've been doing regular git pulls since then, but no change |
| 23:22.35 | Crofton | I am about to tun for plane |
| 23:22.40 | Crofton | need to get build started ...... |
| 23:23.36 | Crofton | hearts screen |
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