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| 00:08.05 | mm0zct | hi |
| 00:08.46 | mm0zct | anyone got any experience getting oe setup for an acer n30? |
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| 00:22.10 | mm0zct | hi |
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| 01:27.23 | khem | any svn user here help me merge a file which is new in one branch on to another |
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| 01:34.50 | mewyn | Anyone ever build OE with i686 or above optimizations? |
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| 02:31.11 | khem | mewyn: what problem are u seeing |
| 02:40.29 | mewyn | ASM errors, don't have it handy |
| 02:40.47 | mewyn | I'm gonna try again later after I get a solid i486 build, it gets past glibc |
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| 03:19.17 | khem | use -march=i486 for glibc and rest does not matter what opt you use |
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| 06:25.27 | CIA-48 | 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r5fa082df... 10/ (1 packages/cmake/cmake.inc): cmake: fix minor spelling error. |
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| 07:01.11 | Sup3rkiddo | hi all, where can i get more info on these errors, lines 86-89... http://dpaste.com/58853/ |
| 07:02.39 | methril | morning |
| 07:02.55 | mbuf | methril, morning |
| 07:03.01 | mbuf | Sup3rkiddo, why do you have a .debug directory? |
| 07:03.57 | Sup3rkiddo | mbuf, i don't know where that came from... i thought it would be because of the -ggdb flag but that was not the case |
| 07:04.37 | Sup3rkiddo | shall i pastebin my recipe? |
| 07:04.44 | mbuf | Sup3rkiddo, from the output, only a "debug" package is allowed to have a .debug directory; yes pastebin your .bb file |
| 07:04.57 | methril | then remove the -ggdb |
| 07:05.43 | methril | the error tells that odeviced is not a debug package, and you have debug |
| 07:06.12 | methril | pastebin your receipe |
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| 07:06.49 | Sup3rkiddo | mbuf, methril, http://dpaste.com/58996/ |
| 07:07.22 | mbuf | Sup3rkiddo, you can also look at the insane.bbclass file for these QA checks openembedded/classes/insane.bbclass (in OM) |
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| 07:07.56 | Sup3rkiddo | methril, oh, so how do i make odeviced a debug package, i was of the impression that the build systems gives a separate -dev and -dbg package automatically |
| 07:08.04 | Sup3rkiddo | mbuf, thanks, i will take a look at that |
| 07:09.22 | Sup3rkiddo | 5th bullet. http://oe.linuxtogo.org/more-quality-assurance-tests is this somehow related? |
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| 07:10.35 | mbuf | Sup3rkiddo, yes |
| 07:10.52 | Sup3rkiddo | hmm... |
| 07:11.33 | Sup3rkiddo | lemme try again commenting out the rdepends flag, it compiles fine, so i guess there shouldn' be an issue with my code |
| 07:13.31 | methril | is a QA check (then insane.bbclass one) |
| 07:13.43 | Sup3rkiddo | i see, will take a look |
| 07:24.45 | Sup3rkiddo | from package_qa_write_error in insane.bbclass it seems that .so are not allowed in normal packages...should i move my .so to a separate package? |
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| 08:14.09 | nerochiaro | hi all, is there a good "hello world" tutorial on how to make oe recipes and add them to an image ? |
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| 08:14.21 | nerochiaro | (using a local overlay, possibly) |
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| 10:44.31 | hrw | morning |
| 10:44.58 | mickeyl | morning hrw |
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| 11:15.48 | zecke | Crofton|work: ping? |
| 11:16.04 | zecke | anyone has pictures from my flat at OEDEM2007? |
| 11:21.57 | hrw | your empty flat? |
| 11:22.44 | zecke | yes |
| 11:22.56 | hrw | I should have |
| 11:23.36 | zecke | can you put one picture somewhere? |
| 11:25.59 | hrw | zecke: sorry - removed them ;( |
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| 11:29.19 | thesing | morning all |
| 11:33.04 | Crofton|work | zecke, pong |
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| 11:35.15 | zecke | Crofton|work: do you have a picture of my empty flat? |
| 11:35.28 | Crofton|work | let me see |
| 11:38.36 | Crofton|work | I have a couple |
| 11:40.31 | Crofton|work | hmm, task-base wants to build the kernel ... |
| 11:42.26 | Crofton|work | where should I put the picture? |
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| 12:18.58 | pb__ | hi mickeyl, zecke, all |
| 12:19.15 | zecke | master! |
| 12:19.33 | Crofton | zecke, I have a couple of photos |
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| 13:19.25 | oxo | hmm |
| 13:20.03 | oxo | quick question: BB_NUMBER_THREADS>1 can be considered "safe", as opposed to PARALLEL_MAKE? |
| 13:20.19 | oxo | ie, the latter can actually break builds, while the former shouldn't |
| 13:20.34 | zecke | oxo: well, when breakage i regularily have with do_fetch |
| 13:20.55 | zecke | oxo: e.g. if you update 6 sources from one cvs server but they limit the number of connections |
| 13:21.10 | oxo | ah ok |
| 13:21.14 | oxo | but apart from fetching? |
| 13:21.36 | zecke | not seen a breakage yet, the deps seems to be right nowadays |
| 13:21.38 | hrw | oxo: save |
| 13:21.44 | oxo | because I suspect my recent glibc-errors were result of parallel building (threads + "-j") |
| 13:21.59 | zecke | oxo: so the only possible breakage is with wrong DEPENDS |
| 13:22.07 | oxo | ah I see |
| 13:22.12 | hrw | BB_NUMBER_THREADS = "8" |
| 13:22.16 | hrw | PARALLEL_MAKE = "-j 8" |
| 13:22.22 | hrw | are my configs for quadcore |
| 13:22.33 | oxo | thing is, my glibc-errors are gone when building without -j and threads |
| 13:22.59 | oxo | this is dual quadcore, even, so 16/8 could do |
| 13:23.53 | oxo | hrw: does glibc 2.6.1 build with these flags? |
| 13:24.03 | hrw | in poky yes |
| 13:24.18 | oxo | ever tried angstrom? |
| 13:24.26 | oxo | let |
| 13:24.27 | hrw | some time ago - moment |
| 13:24.49 | oxo | *let me put it in other words: is it likely that glibc/binutils/gcc breaks when using -j ? |
| 13:25.00 | hrw | same settings for angstrom-2008.1 used and worked |
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| 13:30.37 | zecke | oxo: maybe |
| 13:32.41 | oxo | is it possible to instruct bitbake/oe to build glibc without -j? |
| 13:32.57 | oxo | ie, override parallel_make for certain packages |
| 13:34.24 | Laibsch | oxo: grep for PARALLEL_MAKE in packages |
| 13:34.30 | oxo | ah k, tnx |
| 13:34.34 | oxo | but not in local.conf? |
| 13:34.45 | Laibsch | well, local.conf is global |
| 13:34.52 | Laibsch | in the bb it is per package |
| 13:35.36 | oxo | hmm |
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| 13:42.26 | s0673736 | hi |
| 13:45.19 | mm0zct | for a channel with 145 people it's fairly quiet.. |
| 13:47.11 | hrw | ;) |
| 13:48.01 | mm0zct | i was just wondering (hoping? praying?) that someone here had got oe to work with an acer n30 pda |
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| 13:49.56 | hrw | n30... |
| 13:50.30 | mm0zct | it's a near pda, letux project started working on linux for it then one of the main devs had a car accident iirc |
| 13:50.33 | mm0zct | neat* |
| 13:50.46 | mm0zct | it was merged with oe supposedly |
| 13:50.57 | florian | iirc we have this one |
| 13:51.32 | hrw | with very old kernel... |
| 13:51.54 | mm0zct | i don't really mind what kernel if i can get X running on it lol |
| 13:54.33 | mm0zct | other main constraint is acer don't have the wince image on their site any more so i want to just work off and sd card without flashing the main rom in the devoce |
| 13:54.37 | mm0zct | device* |
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| 13:56.35 | hrw | use haret? |
| 13:57.03 | mm0zct | i read somewhere that haret didn't work but yeah that's the idea |
| 13:57.16 | mm0zct | i've found a couple of bootloaders people have written than work |
| 13:57.42 | mm0zct | so i've got a basic kernel booting with usb keyboard support |
| 13:58.04 | mm0zct | but that's just one i dug up not one i've managed to produce myself |
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| 14:04.34 | mm0zct | bitbake or something about oe doesn't like me much :/ |
| 14:06.20 | mm0zct | uafter doing what the "getting started" page says should ">bitbake nano" work? |
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| 14:12.50 | JenniferB | need help with changing the ctrl + tab way of switching tabs in dreamweaver to look more like the windows one |
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| 14:19.39 | Crofton|work | hmmm, task-boot has DEPENDS = "virtual/kernel" |
| 14:19.49 | Crofton|work | Maybe commeting this out while stop it from trying to make a kernel |
| 14:20.00 | Crofton|work | I can't see why ASSUME_PROVIDED fails though |
| 14:21.50 | kgilmer | Good morning. for those going to guadec hope to see you there... |
| 14:23.01 | hrw | kgilmer: I will be at OH booth |
| 14:23.20 | Crofton|work | where is it? |
| 14:23.50 | kgilmer | Istanbul |
| 14:23.52 | kgilmer | http://guadec.expectnation.com/public/content/main |
| 14:24.22 | Crofton|work | Sounds fun, wish I was good enough at UI to justify going :) |
| 14:24.27 | hrw | http://guadec.org/ is simpler |
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| 14:41.01 | kgilmer | Crofton|work well I'm certainly not good enought yet still going :) |
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| 14:49.47 | Crofton|work | Can I put a RDEPENDS in a machine.conf file? The davinci machines have a kernel driver that has some sample ARM side programs I would like to install in the image |
| 14:50.22 | hrw | MACHINE_EXTRA_RDEPENDS |
| 14:50.29 | Crofton|work | thanks |
| 14:50.40 | hrw | task-base use it |
| 14:50.47 | Crofton|work | ok |
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| 15:55.13 | mm0zct | is the first build supposed to take forever? |
| 15:55.33 | kgilmer | yeah, it takes awhile :) |
| 15:55.39 | mm0zct | good :) |
| 15:55.42 | kgilmer | building the toolchain |
| 15:55.53 | mm0zct | ah ok |
| 15:56.32 | mm0zct | it was pretty sure it was doing what it's meant to because there's still lots of positive text coming every so often |
| 15:58.30 | mm0zct | s/it/I |
| 15:59.12 | mm0zct | do you know what the support's like for the sdio wifi cards? |
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| 15:59.35 | kgilmer | sorry mm0zct, I do not. |
| 16:00.12 | mm0zct | it's ok, it's probably never going to happen anyway since i'm planning to just run of an sd card anyway.. which kinda stops me being able to use one lol |
| 16:01.42 | kgilmer | :) |
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| 16:03.37 | tharvey_ | can anyone explain the error here: http://www.pastebin.org/46098 - 'ln: creating symbolic link `ipkg`: File exists' |
| 16:04.06 | tharvey_ | I get that when trying to build targets for certain machine's but not others |
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| 16:11.39 | kgilmer | tharvey_ I've seen that before too. I think I've just removed the symbolic link to get it fixed. |
| 16:11.52 | kgilmer | or perhaps cleaned the package in question |
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| 16:13.54 | tharvey_ | ok, I'll try that - thanks |
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| 16:16.51 | CIA-48 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r85a1e5d8... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/preferred-om-2008-versions.inc): preferred-om-2008-versions.inc: bump python-pygobject |
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| 16:28.03 | mm0zct | by "a while" is 2hours normal? lol |
| 16:28.58 | hrw | mm0zct: depends on machine speed |
| 16:29.14 | hrw | my machine is able to build whole image in 2h |
| 16:29.27 | hrw | my previous one was not able to |
| 16:29.31 | mm0zct | 1.7GHz core duo |
| 16:31.21 | mm0zct | i just told it to botbake nano but it's the first time so it's got to do a lot of other stuff first |
| 16:33.07 | mm0zct | bitbake* |
| 16:38.07 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 4390 has been created by gwossum(AT)acm.org |
| 16:38.09 | cdbot2 | * * Add AVR32 gcc patch from latest buildroot-avr32 |
| 16:38.10 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4390 |
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| 17:12.14 | CIA-48 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * ra71285da... 10/ (4 files in 4 dirs): frameworkd git specify modem type in configuration |
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| 17:17.24 | jjg | hi all .. was wondering .. do you guys use oe in your day-to-day application development, or do you use another cross compiler to do app dev and, when you are done, you create a bitbake recipe and integrate it into an oe build? |
| 17:18.50 | kario | i prefer latter |
| 17:22.12 | jjg | kario, what are you using for day-to-day app dev .. standalone cross-compiler or a dev environment like scratchbox or something? |
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| 17:28.58 | CIA-48 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r5a8e680a... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-omap2_git.bb): linux-omap2 git: bump to 2.6.26-rc8 |
| 17:30.23 | Crofton|work | jjg, you can use a bb fiel to do dev builds, or yuo can try using toolchain from tmp |
| 17:30.30 | Crofton|work | there are several solutions |
| 17:30.45 | Crofton|work | there is a meta-toolchain target that works for some |
| 17:31.37 | jjg | i'm looking for something that is simple to use ... as i understand it, oe doesn't delete some cache files or something, so i have to manually delete them between each build .. that a correct statement? |
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| 17:32.53 | kario | standalone cross-compiler / host compiler |
| 17:34.03 | kario | start with a host compiler and move to cross compiler when i need to test the binary in the device |
| 17:34.48 | jjg | kario, do you target arm for any of your apps? |
| 17:35.37 | kario | arm yes |
| 17:35.59 | jjg | what cross compiler are you using? i've been using code sourcery's |
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| 17:37.35 | kario | http://www.emdebian.org/ |
| 17:37.58 | likewise | hi |
| 17:39.32 | Crofton | likewise, gm |
| 17:40.54 | Crofton|work | curses that he cannot build an image without building a kernel |
| 17:41.36 | hvontres|work | Crofton: Did you try making a fake-kernel.bb ?\ |
| 17:41.46 | Crofton | no |
| 17:42.00 | Crofton | I suspect I will try making one that builds first |
| 17:44.37 | hvontres|work | thesing: Is tere a wiki somewhere that has instructions on how to make a initramfs kernel in OE? I'd like to see if I can get it working on poodle |
| 17:44.45 | Crofton | It is just annoying that I can't find the "problem" |
| 17:44.49 | likewise | Crofton: let me guess: you cannot build kernels anymore? |
| 17:44.53 | Crofton | no |
| 17:45.08 | Crofton | I am trying to build a rootfs for a xilinx ml403 board |
| 17:45.19 | Crofton | building the kernel properly is "tricky" |
| 17:45.29 | Crofton | all I need is the rootfs, someone else made the kernel |
| 17:45.59 | Crofton | task-boot depends on virtual/kernel, but commenting that out doesn't stop bitbake from trying to build the kernel |
| 17:46.20 | likewise | Crofton: but you can (if you want) specify and build the kernel using OE? |
| 17:46.49 | likewise | Crofton: the task based stuff maybe includes kernel-modules? |
| 17:47.00 | Crofton | I could, but I am trying to put together the rootfs without a working OE recipe |
| 17:47.48 | Crofton | maybe |
| 17:48.02 | Crofton | I am having trouble decoding the dependency graphs |
| 17:48.13 | likewise | Crofton: can you paste them? |
| 17:48.47 | likewise | from head: a -> b: means a depends on b |
| 17:48.49 | Crofton | got it |
| 17:49.33 | Crofton | commenting out kernel from task-boot RDEPENDS |
| 17:50.44 | Crofton | task-base tries to make kernel though |
| 17:51.11 | likewise | I hate the *task* stuff. That's what I throw out first when I start building s/w based on oe. |
| 17:51.34 | likewise | I want a sparse dependency tree, deterministic without the task stuff. |
| 17:52.29 | Crofton | it is great when it works |
| 17:52.44 | Crofton | but finding stuff like this is hard |
| 17:53.55 | hvontres|work | Crofton: how about a .bb that takes the external kernel and just packages it? |
| 17:54.43 | Crofton | the problem is, I do not want to screw with the kernel recipe at all |
| 17:55.09 | Crofton | the problem is task-boot builds a kernel, and task-bae adds modules |
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| 17:55.58 | Crofton | now that I understand, I may be able to solve with assume provided .... |
| 17:56.05 | Crofton | is cranky today |
| 17:56.54 | likewise | me too |
| 17:57.10 | likewise | and then also I just payed my lifetime-3rd speeding ticket |
| 17:57.21 | likewise | for a lousy 4 km/h too fast :-) |
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| 17:58.18 | likewise | bbiab (or maybe not) |
| 18:04.37 | thesing | hvontres|work: just set INITRAMFS_IMAGE somewhere to the initramfs-image you want to use. |
| 18:04.40 | thesing | bye. |
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| 18:48.46 | tharvey | now building base-image with MACHINE=x86-prescott fails with multiple 'ERROR: duplicate src declaration. Skipping' msgs: http://www.pastebin.org/46138 - ideas? |
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| 19:15.11 | mewyn | tharvey: I'm getting the same thing. You'll notice, though, that tmp/root_fs is fully populated. |
| 19:18.05 | tharvey | yes, but the rootfs image isn't built... |
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| 20:02.07 | mewyn | tharvey: What kind of image are you looking for? |
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| 22:23.43 | A__A | Does anyone know about debian repositories? |
| 22:24.08 | A__A | Calling all debian repositories mavens. |
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| 23:11.24 | A__A | Does anyone know about debian repositories? |
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| 23:36.46 | khem | openmoko is making strides |
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| 23:43.34 | dcordes_ | oho linuxtogo related stuff on linuxdevices.com? |
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