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02:17.06cdbot2* * OE Bug 4409 has been created by Zismylaptop(AT)gmail.com
02:17.08cdbot2* * RNDIS Ethernet Gadget fails on Windows with Linux 2.6.24
02:17.10cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4409
02:22.58macdonalderquick question... I've recently had time to fiddle with OE again so I've checked out the org.openembedded.dev tree but I seem to be missing a generic.conf?
02:23.22macdonalderis that just gone or is there something here I'm missing?
02:34.54Crofton|workit was renamed minimal.conf
02:35.04Crofton|worknow we need to make it work :)
02:35.26Crofton|workDISTRO = "angstrom-2008.1"
02:35.29Crofton|workis your best bet
02:35.54Crofton|workfireworks over, time for bed
02:36.34macdonalderahhh ok... thanks
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06:59.46keesjI have this funny problem with console-image. every second package it runs fails in the do_patch becuase the source was not unpacked
07:00.07keesjif I run bitbake -c clean thePackage ; bitbake thePackage it works
07:00.14keesjhttp://www.paste-it.net/raw/public/lb1631a/
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07:03.40keesjI also see that the task number goes from 340 to 392 ?
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07:20.56keesjI did remove the "work" dir
07:21.06keesjperhaps that was not allowed
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08:35.40keesjis ik ok to remove the work directory?
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16:37.54paulproteusI want to create a new branch in the OE mtn for some work on the OpenMoko distribution, as discussed at http://www.openmoko.org/wiki/Stable_Hybrid_Release
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17:10.20mwesterpaulproteus:  No need for a new branch unless the project destabilizes existing work; new images can simply be added to the existing dev branch.
17:11.11paulproteusSo I'm fairly a OE newbie; hopefully you can help me understand things. (-:
17:11.20paulproteusThe idea is that we create a new image name, it's true.
17:11.34paulproteusBut that image name would build existing bb packages with our own patches.
17:11.56paulproteusWouldn't that require a separate branch in OE?  Or not - is it something we can customize as part of the image we are building?
17:12.18paulproteus(Where are the docs on this?)
17:12.38paulproteusI presume the way to go is to use mtn for the time being, and just move to git when all of OE moves to git.
17:14.47mwesterA bb package is nothing more than a recipe that describes how to create a ".ipkg" (or similar) from a source tarball (or similar).
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17:15.15mwesterOther bb recipes describe how to create a .jffs rootfs image from a collection of .ipkgs
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17:15.55mwesterVarious other files can be used to constrain choices, such as selecting a preferred version of a tarball, or selecting jffs vs some other image format.
17:16.25paulproteusMaybe what I should do is just try creating a mtn build target for this "SHR" image and try modifying some bb files.
17:16.33paulproteusThen I would actually know what I was talking about.
17:17.10mwesterYep.  I'd start by doing "bitbake fso-image" to build the existing fso image -- or even the minimal fso image as it might make things more clear.
17:17.38mwesterThe key is that the core build tool (bitbake) is the same between OE and OM; as are most of the .bb recipes.
17:18.24mwesterSo the MokoMakefile can be easily modified to do much of the housekeeping, simplifying things for the general users.  Core devs, though, should be familiar with how to use bitbake to build a specific recipe.
17:18.35paulproteusRight, and that's what I need to learn. (-;
17:18.54paulproteusMore seriously, I need to figure out in what ways our BB files can differ from the mainline 2007.2 applications' bb files.
17:19.14mwesterI suggest that before anyone gets too far along with bitbake et al, it wouldn't be a bad idea to start with a known distro (2007.2 or fso), and assemble rootfs's by hand for a bit.
17:19.36paulproteus"assemble rootfs's by hand" - do you just mean using bitbake instead of MokoMakefile?
17:19.57paulproteusOr do you mean asking bitbake local.conf to generate tar.bz2 images instead and me "by hand" running the tar2jffs thing?
17:20.05mwester<PROTECTED>
17:20.29paulproteusOh, I see - modify the packages, opkg install onto the device, and then snapshot the device?
17:21.04mwesterBy analogy, it's like when one builds an application from scratch, one may have a very basic Makefile -- you usually don't mess with making the software fully "automake-compliant" until after it works and is ready for release.
17:21.36paulproteusRight, okay.
17:21.46paulproteus(so that's a yes to the "oh I see"?)
17:21.57mwesternot entirely...
17:22.10Laibschrkirti: I pushed some changes in dasher-gpe
17:22.11paulproteusFurther clarifications welcome... (-:
17:22.15mwesterthe user instructions to begin with would look sorta like:
17:22.19Laibschrkirti: Go and take a look
17:22.37mwestera) flash the <insert base image name here> image.
17:22.37Laibschrkirti: Instead of do_fetch it now fails in do_compile
17:22.49Laibschrkirti: Maybe you have the energy to figure it ouw
17:22.50Laibschout
17:22.54mwesterb) opkg install <list of standard additional packages, such as python, etc>
17:23.19mwesterc) edit the following files, use wget to fetch the following files, etc.
17:23.47mwesterOnce it gets to a "alpha-test" state, we can formalize the last steps into ipkgs, and then the first release is just steps a) and b).
17:24.10mwesterFor beta (or equiv) on can create a new image that includes the new packages, and it becomes just a)
17:25.12paulproteus"the following files"?
17:25.25paulproteusIf the idea is to patch applications, then it's not like I'm going to be editing object files by hand (-:
17:25.44paulproteusBut I guess I could recompile the apps with my patches and copy the changed files over to the device's filesystem.
17:25.52mwesterYep.
17:25.59paulproteusOkay, I'm starting to get it. (-:
17:26.08mwesterOnce the patches stabilize, we can add them to OE.  until they are stable, that's just a lot of overhead!
17:26.16paulproteusOkay, great!
17:26.51mwesterSo what is needed is a place to develop the custom packages, and store patches until they have reached some stable point -- perhaps the OM project repo?
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