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00:14.04woglindeSundar login via ssh
00:14.10woglindeand start gpe manually
00:14.18woglindetime for bed now
00:14.20woglindegood nite
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02:00.00dbtid'lo.  i'm trying to build something that requires python-devel.  during a 'bitbake -c rebuild pkgname' it died and gave me 'configure: error: cannot find python-devel support'
02:00.32dbtidso... do i find python devel and add it to oe/org.openembedded.org/packages??
02:00.37dbtidor in my custom/packages?
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02:09.33mwester_dbtid: try changing your package to depend on python-dev  (OE uses the "-dev" suffix AFAIK)
02:10.54dbtidum, i'm a complete n00b w/ OE.  
02:11.02dbtiddo i do that with PACKAGES += ...
02:11.06dbtidor
02:11.10dbtidi'll look in all my .bb files
02:11.11dbtid1 sec
02:11.42mwester_DEPENDS
02:12.22dbtidok.  i will add DEPENDS += "python-dev"
02:12.26dbtidwhat is RDEPENDS?
02:12.30dbtidi see that in some of these
02:12.49mwester_run-time dependency (as opposed to a build-time dependency)
02:13.13dbtidthanks
02:13.31dbtidif DEPENDS is an empty string, will DEPENDS += "string"
02:13.35dbtidwork properly?
02:13.47mwester_Yes.
02:13.49dbtidthanks
02:13.50dbtidok
02:14.01dbtidit failed
02:14.12dbtidERROR: Required build target 'name' has no buildable providers.
02:14.30dbtidMissin or unbuildable dependency chain was: ['name', 'python-dev']
02:14.52mwester_Ok.  So you'll have to search about to find what you need.
02:15.12dbtidby search you mean... google?  or in my existing .bb files?
02:15.15mwester_search for the correct package to include in your BBPATH
02:15.24mwester_existing bb files
02:15.54mwester_note that one bb file may create many packages; commonly -dev packages are created as a side-effect of the main package
02:16.01dbtidhmmm
02:16.29dbtidso i would look in oe/org.openembedded.dev/packages?
02:19.42mwester_Did you try python-devel as a dependency at all?
02:20.13dbtidnot yet
02:20.27mwester_Maybe python is an exception, give that a try.
02:20.32dbtidok
02:20.46dbtidtrying
02:20.57mwester_(and yes, you would look in the packages dir, probably one of the recipes in "python"
02:20.59mwester_)
02:21.19dbtidoy
02:21.20dbtidone sec
02:21.44dbtidok
02:22.06dbtidpython/python-pycairo_1.4.0.bb: SECTION = "python-devel"
02:22.09dbtidno DEPENDS though
02:22.41mwester_Well, no it needs to be listed as a DEPENDS in your package.
02:22.46dbtidthere's a task that has an RDEPENDS
02:22.58dbtidok nope nothing in org.openembedded.dev/packages
02:23.03mwester_It would be listed differently in one of the recipes, or perhaps even created dynamically.
02:23.10dbtidfind . -name \*.bb | xargs grep 'python.*dev'
02:23.21dbtiddidn't show anything useful
02:29.52dbtidopenmoko has somethihng
02:30.59mwesterdbtid:  What I'm trying to say is that you may not find that exact text anywhere.
02:31.07dbtidok
02:31.34mwesterdbtid:  Just put "DEPENDS += "python-devel" in your recipe to see if that satisfies the missing dependency that you originally had.
02:32.10dbtidi did; it failed.  sorry, i didn't report back.
02:32.17mwesterAh, ok then.
02:33.03mwesterIs "python-devel" the common package name as used in Debian, or does Debian use some other name for that?
02:33.21dbtidi'm pretty ignorant about such things
02:33.34dbtidlet me look at synaptic
02:34.04mwesterI've always found that OE has a pretty close correlation to Debian when it comes to package naming.
02:34.11dbtidok
02:35.11dbtidthere's a package in synaptic called python-dev
02:41.07dbtidmwester: there is a task called task-openmoko-python-devel that is in the images/openmoko-python-devel-image.bb
02:41.10dbtidmight it be something like that?
02:41.42dbtidthere's one in tasks/ too
02:48.16mwesterNo, that wouldn't be it.
02:48.40dbtidi was wondering if it was some kind of product, along the lines of what you said how it might not be obvious
02:49.04mwesterI'd take a wild guess then that it's built as a side-effect of python, and therefore "DEPENDS += "python"" would do the job --- even if it sounds a bit overkill.
02:49.16dbtidok i will try it
02:51.06dbtidheh, now it's going after tcl_8.4.11.
02:51.08dbtidnot sure why
02:51.14dbtidbut it wasn't doing that before :)
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04:12.07cdbot2* * OE Bug 4802 has been created by denis(AT)denix.org
04:12.09cdbot2* * gnome-panel-2.24.0 cannot find scrollkeeper
04:12.14cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4802
04:13.56denix0cdbot2: good :)
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07:39.04mad_adyhello everybody!
07:39.19mad_adyI'm new to openembedded, and I already have a question
07:39.32mad_adyI did the steps in GettingStarted
07:39.53mad_adyand I ran into this problem when trying to bitbake opie-image
07:39.59mad_adyError, Your PACKAGE_ARCHS field contains duplicates. Perhaps you set EXTRA_PACKAGE_ARCHS twice accidently through some tune file?
07:41.18mad_adyI managed to get rid of the problem (swept it under the rug) by commenting the offending lines (e.g. the error message) from sanity.bbclass
07:41.37mad_adyit compiles a lot of the packages, but it dies later when trying to compile perl
07:42.07mad_adydo you think that by ignoring this problem it would create problems while compiling perl?
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09:19.18Genesishi
09:21.01hrwmorning
09:21.41hrwmad_ady: you rather need to fix machine config then hack sanity.bbclass
09:27.34mad_adyok, but how do I troubleshoot this problem? I mean, how can I find if PACKAGE_ARCHS is defined elsewhere?
09:27.49mad_adyI did a recursive grep, but I didn't find out much
09:28.08mad_adyis there a way to list it's contents, to see what gets doubled up?
09:30.08kalevmad_ady: PACKAGE_ARCHS was recently moved to include/tune-*, but not all machine configs were updated to reflect that change
09:30.25mad_adyok
09:30.40mad_adyI looked into include/tune-*, but I couldn't find my machine
09:30.43mad_adylet me check again
09:31.02kalevmad_ady: find your machine conf, and then read it to find what tune file it includes
09:31.29mad_adyI'm using looxc550.conf
09:31.41mad_adyaha
09:31.46mad_adyit uses tune-xscale.inc
09:32.24kalevnow compare PACKAGE_ARCHS in looxc550.conf and tune-xscale.inc, and remove duplicate entries from looxc550.conf
09:32.36mad_adyyup, will do, thanks!
09:32.42kalevgood luck
09:34.31mad_adyok, seems that armv4 and armv4t are duplicates
09:34.37mad_adythank you for your help!
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09:44.44hrwmad_ady: basically machine configs do not have to play at all with PACKAGE_ARCH variables
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09:51.34mad_adyI removed all the entries from PACKAGE_ARCH from looxc550.conf file
09:52.45mad_adyand now it seems to have solved the problem
09:52.52hrwcool
09:53.02mad_adylet's see if it complies :)
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09:56.11hrw~summon zecke and/or RP
09:56.12ibotapt takes out 20 clean, identical-looking phones, some extra hands, and pretends to be a telemarketer for a large corporation, so he gets delivered a phonelist containing zecke and/or RP's coordinates
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09:57.35woglindemorning
09:57.40woglindehrw whtas wrong?
09:58.42hrwI have svn fetcher patches for review
09:58.48hrwhttp://pastebin.ca/1245752
09:59.53woglindehm whats <<< doing?
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10:01.44emdetehi woglinde - any hint how i can get further with my glib build problem?
10:02.04hrwwoglinde: http://www.arkanis-development.de/weblog/2007/9/7/subversion:-work-around-issuer-is-not-trusted
10:02.54woglindeemdete quick fix is to disable pb's patch
10:03.21emdeteah, 'disable'... i understood yesterday it's missing. sry :/
10:04.35hrwhi stelios
10:05.17woglindehrw ah I understand now
10:05.49woglindeemdete hm no, somehow at your config the gatomic.la is not build
10:06.15woglindebut thump support is optional and the quicl solution is disbale for the thumb patch on your side
10:06.16hrwwoglinde: the bad thing is that this is bashism..
10:06.27woglindehrw right
10:06.43woglindebut a nice feature other common shell should include
10:07.50hrwand I have one recipe which fetch via https with ssl selfsigned..
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10:25.22floriangood morning
10:25.27woglindehi florian
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10:33.29pb__florian: good morning
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10:33.43woglindehi pb
10:33.45woglindegi robert
10:33.56pb__hi woglinde
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11:49.12hrw"swp r0,r1,[r4]" - why gcc say that arm1136 does not supports it?
11:50.02hrwok.. thumb<>arm
11:52.08hrw"-march=armv6j -mtune=arm1136jf-s -mfloat-abi=softfp -mfpu=vfp -mthumb-interwork -mthumb" is why I had that
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12:15.43CIA-2603Otavio Salvador <otavio@ossystems.com.br> 07org.openembedded.dev * r301c02d1fe 10openembedded.git/packages/vnc/ (tightvnc/Vncviewer tightvnc_1.3.9.bb): tightvnc: add a default X resources file
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12:45.08hrwbye
12:45.53CIA-2603Marcin Juszkiewicz <hrw@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * rc51ce4a258 10openembedded.git/conf/checksums.ini: checksums.ini: added some entries
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12:55.57pb__zecke: hail zecke
12:59.58emdetepb__: hi! are you the pb__  that did the patch that makes glib fail to compile? :)
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13:03.15pb__emdete: heh, apparently.  what is the failure that you are seeing?
13:03.48emdeteit fails to find some atomic lib - give me a seconf
13:03.56pb__what's your MACHINE?
13:04.08emdetegta01/2
13:04.55emdetearm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-libtool: link: cannot find the library `libgatomic.la'
13:05.10pb__that is rather odd
13:05.22pb__do you see any trace of libgatomic.* in your build directory?
13:05.31emdetewoglinde suggested to remove your patch but i'm not shure which
13:05.47pb__he means the atomic-thumb.patch
13:06.03pb__removing that from SRC_URI probably would make your problem go away, but I would prefer to understand why it fails.
13:06.09pb__without that patch you won't be able to compile for thumb
13:06.22pb__(which probably isn't all that big a deal for you but it would be a shame to break it again)
13:06.36emdetepb__: (still searching) - what ist this thumb & atomic stuff?
13:06.58pb__thumb is a higher-density version of the arm instruction set.
13:07.13pb__compared to arm code it gives you smaller (and, in some cases, faster) binaries.
13:07.27pb__however, there are some operations that you can't do in thumb mode and atomic swaps are one of them.
13:07.56pb__so, when glib is built in thumb mode, it is necessary to build the atomic operation support separately and compile just that one file in arm mode.
13:08.00emdetethere is no lib with that name but build/tmp/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/glib-2.0-2.16.4-r0/glib-2.16.4/glib/.deps/libgatomic_la-gatomic.Plo
13:08.11pb__strange
13:08.31pb__if you go to the build directory (build/tmp/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/glib-2.0-2.16.4-r0/glib-2.16.4/glib/) and type "make libgatomic.la", what happens?
13:08.56rschusterzecke: are you planning to go to c-base this evening?
13:09.00emdetearm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc: No such file or directory
13:09.06pb__doh
13:09.09emdetepb__: shall i use devshell?
13:09.11pb__yes, please
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13:10.10emdeteso thumb-mode compiles stuff is faster?
13:10.26pb__not necessarily always, but it seems to be mostly so in my testing
13:10.52pb__I posted some stats to the mailing list.  let me find a link.
13:11.04emdetepb__: so everything goes thumbmode - even the kernel?
13:11.15pb__no, not the kernel
13:11.32pb__it would be possible to compile the kernel as mostly thumb, but that would be quite a lot of work
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13:11.56pb__likewise glibc, it would be somewhat difficult (though not impossible by any means) to build that as thumb code.
13:12.03pb__but everything else should be buildable in thumb
13:12.12pb__see http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2008-October/006718.html for some stuff about tis
13:12.14pb__this, even
13:14.30emdeteinteresting...
13:16.24emdeteback to devshell: the package seems to be not configured...
13:16.36pb__what do you mean?
13:16.55emdetethere are no makefile only .am...
13:16.57emdetemom
13:17.17pb__er, that is odd
13:17.23pb__are you sure you are looking at the same build directory as before?
13:17.35pb__if you had the .deps/ stuff then it must have been configured at that point
13:18.11emdeteoups...no - ah, sry, myfault
13:18.40vivijimmorning
13:19.08emdetepb__: okay, fixed the dir prob & now it just compiles.
13:19.28emdetepb__: (given your cd glib; make li....)
13:19.33pb__okay
13:19.42pb__it sounds like you must be encountering an automake bug of some kind.
13:19.51emdetepb__: i know left the devshell & build the whole thing
13:19.53pb__I'm not quite sure why it works for me and not for you.  what version of automake-native are you using?
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13:20.36pb__you could try adding an explicit dependency rule "libglib-2.0.la: libgatomic.la" to the Makefile.am, but I don't think that should be necessary.
13:20.37emdetepb__: yes, build runs through now
13:20.50pb__ok, that's good
13:21.07pb__so, it seems that automake just doesn't realise that it needs to compile libgatomic.la for some reason
13:22.20emdeteautomake-native is 1.9.6-r0
13:22.43pb__right, that's the same one I have
13:22.44pb__very weird
13:23.03emdete...and i did a clean recently
13:23.10emdeteclean == rm -rf tmp...
13:23.24pb__right
13:23.28pb__I wonder if it is failing for anybody else
13:25.06emdeteso how mu
13:25.18emdeteoups - so how much is compiled in that mode now?
13:26.04pb__I've built the whole of fso-image as thumb, though I haven't actually tested all the resulting binaries.
13:26.14pb__so far the only one I've actually booted is an fso-console-image.
13:26.49pb__I was side-tracked by a crash in opkg which turned out to be a gcc-4.1 compiler bug.  it seems that you need gcc-4.2 for correct thumb code generation.
13:27.11emdeteis 4.1 used by default?
13:27.29pb__4.1 does seem to be the default for openmoko on 4.1
13:27.31pb__er, on gta01
13:27.53pb__I guess mickeyl would know to what extent that is a deeply entrenched policy.
13:27.55emdetegta02 too?
13:28.08pb__not sure.  I don't have a gta02 so I haven't bothered trying to build for that platform.
13:28.17pb__I suspect it's probably the same though.
13:29.06emdeteso if i build now i get a corrupt/crashing version?
13:29.22pb__if you turn on thumb, yes, some things might get miscompiled.
13:29.35pb__the only place I have actually observed a problem was in libcurl, which caused "opkg update" to segfault.
13:29.45emdeteah, but thumb is off by dfault.. right?
13:29.48pb__right
13:29.52pb__gcc 4.1 seems to be fine for arm code
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13:42.30Croftonhttp://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/black_man_given_nations
13:42.36Croftononly in America ....
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13:45.43broonieI preferred the "they like having a black person clean up for them" variant on that one.
13:46.38XorAheh
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13:47.15emdeteCrofton: probably you mean usa, he wont want to cleanup whole america, right?
13:49.49XorAhow many bloody xservers do sun need
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13:51.55Croftonemdete, good point :)
13:52.26XorAdont worry, we shall power up the LHC and point it at the americans, they will then be hoovered up
13:52.27Croftonbut it is a fake news site
13:52.41CroftonI had wondered what that was really for
13:53.19XorAblack holes make good waste disposal :-D
13:58.42woglindemoo
13:59.33emdetewho could update checksum.ini with an entry for http://downloads.sourceforge.net/pyopenssl/pyOpenSSL-0.6.tar.gz?
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14:00.07emdete...and http://trevp.net/tlslite/tlslite-0.3.8.tar.gz
14:01.03XorAemdete: you could :-)
14:01.22emdeteno, i have no commit/push rights to oe
14:01.38XorAyeah, but you can do git-format-patch and post it :-)
14:01.39emdeteXorA: shure i can give you my patch
14:02.00XorAI cant apply patches right this moment, working on a different branch
14:02.18emdeteXorA: harharhar... `git checkout ...`!
14:02.44XorAId lose all my work :-(
14:02.54brooniegit stash :)
14:03.14XorAonly 43 recipes still to go
14:07.58emdetehttp://pyneo.org/downloads/0001-add-various-checksums.patch
14:08.17XorAWTF is a vermilion?
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14:09.43florianhi kergoth
14:09.45kaleva specific red color I think
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14:15.08cdbot2* * libxkbfile-1.0.4-autobuild
14:15.09cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4803
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14:28.56florianhrw: wb
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14:29.40woglindere robert und hrw
14:30.01hrwgcc 4.2 != 4.3 fight is argh
14:30.11woglindehm?
14:30.40hrwI use debian 'sid' and have gcc 4.3. buildbot machine has ubuntu 8.04 and gcc 4.2
14:30.52hrwsome stuff not builds on my system but builds on bbot one
14:32.22woglindeupdate to intrepid
14:32.38woglindeeasiest solution
14:33.21hrwno way
14:33.32hrwI tried Poky trunk on 8.10 and it fails
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14:33.50woglindehrw why it fails?
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14:34.10woglindebecause of the missing patches for O_CREATE issue?
14:34.45hrwthats too
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14:36.45woglindeso poky is broken *duck and hide*
14:37.07hrwand I do not work on Poky direct so..
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14:52.53cbrakeis OE known working with Ubuntu 8.10?
14:53.02woglindecbrake hehe
14:53.03woglindeyes
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14:53.20pb__kergoth: morning
14:53.20likewisegerwinin: long time no see. you see?
14:53.40likewisegerwinin: you at ELCE tomorrow?
14:53.55woglindehi kergoth
14:54.12likewisehi all
14:54.24woglindehi likewise
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14:55.16woglindecbrake there can be native packages which can brake with the gcc-4.3 compiler from ubuntu
14:55.24woglindebut I or others will fix this asap
14:55.33kergothmorning
14:55.47kergothhmmm
14:55.49cbrakewoglinde: ok, thanks
15:02.25mwesterre
15:05.05cdbot2* * OE Bug 4804 has been created by sledz(AT)dresearch.de
15:05.07cdbot2* * Some more checksums missing
15:05.09cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4804
15:21.58HopsNBarleymorning all.
15:22.43HopsNBarleywhich bitbake should I be using with the current head?
15:23.14HopsNBarleyi'm using 1.8.10, but it is not seeing one of my PREFERRED_PROVIDER s
15:23.30emdetehm, the newly generated packages complain while installing: " * ERROR: libdbus-1-3.postinst returned 1" - is that a known problem?
15:27.05hrwHopsNBarley: last released one (1.8.10 iirc)
15:27.15hrwHopsNBarley: you can also use 1.8-svn
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15:28.24woglindere hm now radeonhd works
15:28.28woglindecrappy flgrx
15:29.13hrwwindows xp + printer shared by cups == total disaster
15:29.44woglindehrw hm?
15:29.51woglindeI often got it worked
15:30.02emdetehrw: cups == total disaster...
15:30.14woglindeeven 3/4 years ago where macos had a crappy cups version
15:30.45hrwwoglinde: my epson shoots me with 5 empty pages per each printed one
15:30.47woglindeemdete please show me your bettere printing solution for unix
15:30.57woglindehrw ink?
15:30.59HopsNBarleyhrw.  thanks, and hmmm.  i'm just trying this: PREFERRED_PROVIDER_java2-runtime = "jamvm".  bb "sees" both options, but picks cacao anyway, telling me I should define a provider...
15:31.00hrwwoglinde: ink
15:31.00emdeteanyone an idea about my ".postinst returned 1" ?
15:31.04emdetewoglinde: lprng
15:31.04woglindehrw muahahahaaa
15:31.17woglindenever buy a ink
15:31.31woglindeeven the cheapest ink is nt it worth
15:31.31hrwwoglinde: sure - show me color laser under 200 eur
15:31.47hrwor rather color laser+scanner+copier under 200 eur
15:32.05hrwfor new one
15:32.11woglindelet me se what the hp colojert 1605 now is
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15:32.44woglinde249
15:32.54woglindeand we have this at home
15:32.59woglindeand we are happy with it
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15:33.48hrwif I would have to buy next printer then it would have to have printserver inside
15:34.21woglindehehe
15:34.23hrwanyway with older cups this one was working nicely
15:34.29woglindehm
15:34.31woglindeokay
15:34.43hrwlinux + printer + sharing === disaster
15:34.53emdetehm, `for n in /usr/lib/opkg/info/*.postinst; do echo exit 0 >> $n; done` did it - is the checking of retuncodes a new feature?
15:34.54woglindenono
15:35.17hrwwoglinde: yesyes
15:35.19woglindeat home the brother hp1440 and the hp 1605 working fine
15:35.22woglindeto win2000
15:35.34woglindeand to win 2003 server in vmware
15:35.37woglindeother network
15:35.40woglindewith cups
15:37.06gerwininDo you think the AP7000 is capable of running asterisk ?
15:38.13woglindegerwinin hm depends on the ram you habve
15:38.24woglindeand how many phones you will use
15:38.35woglindebut for the price you are better with a integreated box
15:38.56woglindesteliosk gave me a cool link
15:39.02woglindeunforantly this is at home
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15:40.06emdetewhich package contains/builds xserver-security-policy?
15:40.10gerwininwoglinde: I have some good oppurtunity to make some cheap oe router/boards :)
15:41.38woglindegerwinin hm okay you could ask steliosk too if he is around, he has some expierence with runnig asteriks on embedded stuff
15:49.06Sundaron the angstrom filesystem , "starting GPE display manager" fails. can anyone give a starting point to debug?
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15:56.26CosmicPenguindoes kexecboot live only in the OE tree, or does it have its own little project space?
15:57.05florianSundar: Try to run Xserver from a console and check its output
15:57.18woglindecosmic hm you wait for ant or thesing
15:57.36woglindeflorian I told this him yesterday
15:57.44woglindeseems he didnt mange it yet
15:58.24florianwoglinde: oh...
16:03.51Sundarwoglinde:i probably missed  your note.I will run and get back
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16:05.03woglindeSundar login onto ssh
16:05.13Sundaryes ,i hav
16:05.17woglindeand run /etc/init.d/
16:05.24Sundarokay
16:05.27woglindewhere the scripts for starting resides
16:05.35woglindedo not know which are used for x and gpe
16:06.34Sundarresetting my target.give me a few.
16:12.49Sundarflorian:woglinde i dont have permission to  /etc/init.d/ even as root from ssh
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16:14.11Blackhexhello everyone
16:15.11Sundarwoglinde : did you mean /etc/init.d/gpe-dm start ?
16:16.48woglindesundar yes
16:17.05BlackhexHow can I "install" some file (gdal-config) of some builded package (gdal) when it is needed to build another package (grass), please? (Talking about bitbake.)
16:17.39Sundari get a status 'Starting GPE display manager: gpe-dm " . but the same old blue screen. dmesg doesnt give me any onfo
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16:18.28BlackhexAnd how to I refer to it in bb recipe...
16:18.29woglindeBlackhex RDEPENDS = moo
16:18.37woglindein .bb file
16:18.45florianSundar: you are using NFS?
16:18.47woglindesharedlibrary are found automagicly
16:18.56Sundarsd card
16:19.00kergothhttp://trac.project-builder.org/ is cute
16:19.06Sundarbut i can ,if it would be useful
16:19.14Blackhexwoglinde: you mean RDEPENDS = gdal in grass.bb? I'll try, thx
16:21.13Blackhexwoglinde: and the reference? ${D}usr/bin/gdal-config?
16:22.26florianSundar: Then your mount options are bad
16:23.42Sundarflorian : you mean theway i mount my FS  in uboot?
16:24.39florianSundar: no, the way you mount the fs in linux
16:25.21woglindeBlackhex???? the REDEPENDS let opkg/ipkg install gdal when you run opkg/ipkg install grass
16:25.40woglindeand I guess gdal-config is in gdal
16:26.11woglindeBlackhex or are you in another context buildung .ipk?
16:26.21Sundarflorian : i did not understand.bootargs=console=ttyS0,115200n8 root=/dev/mmcblk0p1 rw ip=dhcp rootdelay=1 mem=64M .  r u talking abt this?
16:27.29florianSundar: no... check what 'mount' tells you
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16:30.06Sundaramong the many, i also have at the end : "/dev/mmcblk0p1 on /media/mmcblk0p1 type ext3 (rw,data=ordered)"
16:31.27florianSundar: so you have /dev/mmcblk0p1 mounted to / and to /media/mmcblk0p1 - not good.
16:31.46Blackhexwoglinde: I want to build grass using "bitbake -c build grass" but to properly detect location of gdal library I need to add --with-gdal=<somethin>/bin/gdal-config to configure script execution. gdal-config was build using "bitbake -c build gdal" but it's only in resulted packages and nowhere in building environment...
16:32.47Blackhexwoglinde: So I want to know how to "install" some builded package like it was a toolchain
16:34.23woglindeBlackhex then use DEPENDS = gal
16:34.29woglindein the .bb
16:34.39woglindeDEPENDS = is for building depends
16:34.39Blackhexwoglinde: I had it already
16:34.47Sundarflorian: i realize something is wrong.but nt enuf , to fix it :D some more tips? should i umount /media/mmcblk0p1
16:34.48woglindeBlackhex please read teh oe manual
16:34.55woglindeBlackhex to write sane and clean .bb
16:35.18woglindeblackhex http://bec-systems.com/oe/html/index.html
16:35.27Blackhexwoglinde: but the problem is that there is no gdal-config installed during installation step
16:35.58florianSundar: Might be a good idea... and then check the binaries in your fs if alll are executable. Same for the Xserver script...
16:36.03woglindeBlackhex add inherit binconfig to you gal.bb
16:36.18woglindeBlackhex read the manual section about do_stage
16:36.58Blackhexwoglinde: binconfig is there; I read something about staging, but I thoguth it's only for build speedup
16:37.16woglindeBlackhex?????
16:37.31woglindestaging is where are stuff lays for native and crosscompiling
16:37.45woglindeinstall is only for installing so it fits to the .ipk
16:38.08Blackhexwoglinde: OK now it makes little sense
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16:38.45Blackhexwoglinde: this one confused me a little: http://blog.haerwu.biz/2008/07/01/packaged-staging-and-what-it-gives/
16:39.20hrwBlackhex: why it confused you?
16:39.31hrwBlackhex: thats my blog
16:40.13woglindehrw I think he tought the package staging are done automagiclly
16:40.17woglindefrom install
16:40.19Blackhexhrw: :-) I was looking what is staging about and there is said that's it's about build speedup, not setting up build environment
16:40.42Sundari unmount media/mmcblk0p1. and as a root i have rwx on all scripts in /etc/init.d/ . is tht what u meant?still no success
16:41.24hrwBlackhex: with packaged-staging my builds can be faster
16:41.39Blackhexwoglinde, hrw: But thank you both.
16:42.48Blackhexhrw: I don't dispute, but this blog was only kind of relevant information about staging google gave me and I think it don't explain real purpose for those who do know nothing about it.
16:43.20Sundarflorian:i did umouunt media/mmcblk0p1. and as a root i have rwx on all scripts in /etc/init.d/ . is tht what u meant?still no success
16:45.19Blackhexhrw: ah now I see the difference: I din't realize that staging and packaged staging are two different things
16:45.54florianSundar: you will have to check all scripts and binaries they can call - e.g. from /bin, /usr/bin, /etc/X11 etc..
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16:49.06Sundarflorian : okay and i shud make sure, i have execute permission on all? on a sidenote : i can run the same FS on beagleboard , no problem , all works fine.shud i try nfs?will tht b of any use?
16:49.32florianSundar: get a new keyboard first ;)
16:50.42Sundarflorian : point noted :D .whts the latest typo,i did? don see one in the last line :-?
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16:51.03CIA-26python-pygame: Blacklist smpeg and build pygame without smpeg
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16:58.03Blackhexbye
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17:11.25Sundarflorian :got a new kb :P /bin /usr/bin has  execute permissons. in /etc/X11/ the scripts to start X are executable binaries. do gpe-login* files and xmodmap need to be executable binaries?
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17:12.37florianSundar: yes
17:13.29Sundarflorian : will modify. curiosity ,how did the bootup on beagleboard dint have these issues?
17:14.09florianSundar: And Xserver still does not bring up anything? What's the error message?
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17:16.27Sundarflorian :/etc/init.d/gpe-dm start  -this says "starting display manager "with no error message.
17:16.45Sundarflorian:55 to all scripts in /etq/x11/
17:17.14florianSundar: Run /etc/X11/Xserver
17:17.16Sundarflorian:gave 755 to all scripts in /etq/x11/
17:19.02Sundarflorian :(EE) Failed to load module "glx" (module does not exist, 0)
17:19.23Sundarflorian  : Fatal server error: no screens found
17:20.02florianoh
17:20.52florianSundar: That's an Xorg error message. Either configure Xorg for your device or replace it with kdrive.
17:21.46Sundarflorian : by configure ,you mean xorg.conf? can you throw some more info on kdrive?
17:22.45Sundarflorian : am i missing a kernel loadable module? is there a kernel option, that would statically link this into my kernel for now?
17:24.59Genesisbye
17:28.09Sundarflorian : in a mail archive.koen kool mentioned :"All recent versions of angstrom should have kdrive patched to support 800x480, which version are you running? " i use "angstrom-2008.1" and cloned "org.openembedded.stable" .  should i run a different version?
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17:28.47hrwSundar: 2008.1 is in .dev not in .stable
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17:34.12Sundarhrw: i did my first build yesterday. i have mis-matched a devleopment release and org.openembedded.stable. this is a mistake. do i have to redo?
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17:59.04cdbot2* * OE Bug 4805 has been created by enrico.scholz(AT)sigma-chemnitz.de
17:59.07cdbot2* * ffmpeg: missing 'install -s' case
17:59.09cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4805
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18:20.01HopsNBarleyanybody?  i'm trying this in my distro .conf -> PREFERRED_PROVIDER_java2-runtime = "jamvm"  <-  bb "sees" both jamvm and cacao as providers, but picks cacao anyway, telling me I should define a provider...
18:20.19HopsNBarleyhow do I debug this?  I tried all the -D's in the world - time to learn python?
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18:21.38HopsNBarleyother preferred i have defined ARE working.  is there something special about "-runtime" ??
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18:29.36woglindehm HopsNBarley could grep  overall config maybee it is unset somewhere
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18:37.35oliforddoes anyone know if busybox is supposed to be suid root?
18:37.54woglindeoilford hm
18:37.55olifordi.e can someone with a working rootfs where they haven't manually set it check for me?
18:38.13woglindeis not set by default
18:38.27woglindeI am heading home
18:38.30olifordhow are things like su supposed to work then?
18:38.30woglindebye
18:38.43olifordthanks though
18:38.44olifordbye
18:39.05olifordanyone else know how it's supposed to work?
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19:01.13olifordhmm, looks like its an ongoing, hack time then
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19:16.44emdetegdk-pixbuf does not build... any hints? it says "reduce-dependencies.patch does not apply "...
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19:29.34_diego_emdete, try to remove the patch ;)
19:36.59emdeteshure, why not just remove everything ;)
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20:06.21mwesteroliford:  su doesn't work.
20:07.02mwesteroliford:  if you think the security risk of running busybox setuid root is acceptable, then you can set it so -- but the built image will not make that assumption for you.
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20:42.33kantorhi, is there an open source OSEK (Open Systems and their Interfaces for the Electronics in Motor Vehicles) operating system emulator ?
20:44.12kergothkantor: you're off topic, and sending the same message to multiple channels is usually frowned upon, particularly at the exact same time
20:45.15mwesterdidn't believe the disk diag program, when it reported that SMART indicated the drive was about to fail... :( Sigh.
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20:45.38kergoth:(
20:46.50mwesterIt's only my build/tmp directory, so it could be a lot worse.
20:47.26mwester:) But there's no doubt that OE builds will find marginal disks!
20:48.17kergothhehe
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21:00.27Gnutoowoglinde, hi...the mplayer package doesn't compile anymore because it uses ffmpeg not from svn...how can i force it to use that...http://pastebin.com/m7bd188a3
21:00.42Gnutoos/uses/does not use/
21:01.12Gnutoos/s\/uses\/does not use\/
21:03.59woglindeGnutoo guntoo rais the DEFAULT_PREFRENCES in ffmpeg_svn
21:04.17Gnutoowoglinde, thanks a lot
21:05.50olifordmwester: ok, thanks. But then why did busybox get configured to provide su if it doesnt work? Surely it should have been left as tinylogin?
21:06.17olifordAs it is, building x11-gpe-image gives me an unusable system
21:27.54mwesteroliford:  there is some discussion about the issues.  But tinylogin is unmaintained.  As far as an unusable system, if you are building a "one-time-use" build, just set the setuid bit manually.  If you are building a distro, it's really quite easy for a distro to set that bit as the image is being assembled.
21:28.41mwesterFrom the OE point of view, the default should be safe.  And not everyone is prepared to agree that it is known always to be safe to run busybox setuid root -- it has been less-than-completely stable in the past ;)
21:29.25olifordok, so should I pester angstrom to set it then? (thats what I'm building)
21:30.11olifordIt seems silly to have to do it specifically for my device
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21:32.10mwesterCertainly discuss it with the angstrom folks; I know they have participated in the discussions previously, so they may be able to provide better insight into their rationale for that distro.
21:32.21olifordok
21:32.44mwesterIIRC, they don't trust busybox ;)
21:33.54NAiLwith good reason
21:34.47NAiLThere was a recent discussion regarding this. There's no way to make sure busybox can be safely set suid root.
21:36.48kergothin -theory- itd be fine, since busybox drops privs for applets that dont need it, but i don't know that the code's been audited or anything
21:36.51kergothheh
21:37.33NAiLand any libraries used by busybox would also need to be audited, right?
21:37.59kergothyou mean, the c library?  I'm pretty sure people have looked into that, given the number of suid binaries on your average Linux desktop
21:38.30NAiLIt doesn't use anything other than uclibc?
21:38.34NAiLglibc?
21:38.54olifordI didn't really want to get into that, I just think its not right to leave it config'ed in a way that doesn't work
21:39.36olifordthe tinylogin binary is present in my /bin so why not config it, if it works and is safe
21:39.45kergothNAiL: the busybox folks tend to be pretty minimalist.  they work to trim out a couple K from a module's size.  i couldn't see them adding unnecessary deps
21:39.46olifordso yea.. angstrom issue
21:51.32Crofton|irssiI need to check the busybox mount utils to see if we can use them in Angstrom
21:51.44Crofton|irssithe older versions had some missing options that Angstrom used
21:59.04mwesterI was able to get everything working that SlugOS needs, and SlugOS uses probably everything.  There were a couple of mount options that busybox didn't support, but it turned out that the variant supported by busybox is actaully the prefered one.  
21:59.38mwestersighs at his spelling.
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22:22.27pb_It does seem a bit silly to ship an su binary that isn't going to work.  It seems like it would be better to just turn su off in the busybox configuration and let folks who want su install tinylogin instead.
22:23.43kergothindeed.  it should be considered a bug as is, definately
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22:37.05cdbot2* * OE Bug 4806 has been created by <OE-Autobuilder>
22:37.07cdbot2* * ffmpeg-0.4.9+r35+gitrafb98868e19e63cbca6c9f0ed9e6cfa48d40277d-autobuild
22:37.10cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4806
22:37.20cbrakesigh, hardcoded paths in hplip source :-(
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22:51.30pb_kergoth: the problem with busybox security is not so much external libs, it's more the amount of code sharing within busybox.
22:52.30pb_kergoth: it's all very well to say that applets which don't need setuid will drop the privs, but because the whole thing is linked together into one monolithic binary it is fairly hard to be certain which functions might possibly be called in a setuid context and hence are security-critical.
22:53.22kergothnod.  i'd expect most of that to be in libbb though.. hopefully, at least.  having a lot of inter-applet dependency would be bad in general..  I'd expect you'd have to go over libbb with a fine tooth comb
22:53.24pb_plus, the rate of code churn within busybox is high enough that you would end up having to re-audit it on a frequent basis.
22:54.11kergothtrue, that wouldn't be fun at all
22:54.13pb_as for tinylogin being "dead", I don't really buy that argument.  sure, it isn't being updated, but it doesn't seem to require any updates.  it does what it says on the box.
22:54.40pb_and, it has the advantage of being small, self-contained, and easy to audit with low code churn.
22:55.45Sundaron the angstrom file system ,i need some advice configuring my Xserver for an OMAP target with an lcd display. Xserver fails with loading omapfb & no devices detected. how do i make it identify the screen i have?should i edit xorg.conf to recognize this display?
22:56.08stefan_schmidthi ho
22:56.43stefan_schmidtemdete is getting this http://rafb.net/p/fGsLd321.html when trying to build an image which contains glib
22:57.06stefan_schmidtBuilding it by hand after this failure it goes through and the image also can be copntinued
22:57.13stefan_schmidtThreading bug?
22:57.18woglindehm no
22:57.35emdetei have not THREAD -j something set - what's the default?
22:57.37woglindesomehow Makefile.am has to be better
22:57.48stefan_schmidtwoglinde: Known bug? :)
22:57.55woglindestefan_schmidt nope
22:58.04woglindeonly emdete has the problem
22:58.06emdetestefan_schmidt: woglinde gave mit the make in devshell hint ;)
22:58.11stefan_schmidtwoglinde: ok, so best to fill one then. :)
22:58.23stefan_schmidtah, woglinde is already helping out. Good.
22:58.42emdetewoglinde: but i see a strange behavior with bb - if i press ^Z i see output going on
22:58.48woglindesomehow the .la file is not build
22:58.49stefan_schmidtI have no idea how to fix this and I'm to lazy to dig into this tonight.
22:59.25stefan_schmidtemdete: Best is to fill a bug about it with the error pasted and a description that it works in the second run
22:59.54stefan_schmidtwoglinde: So sloopy dep handling in Makefile.am
23:00.38emdetewoglinde: whats the cause for output after ^Z? any idea?
23:06.19woglindeemdete what ^Z you are talking off?
23:08.49emdetewoglinde: if you let a program run in the shell and press Ctrl-Z
23:09.12emdetewoglinde: it gets immediatly supended...
23:11.55woglindehm
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